User talk:Bezel

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Hi there, Bezel, and welcome to WikiFur and the fandom! Thank you for telling us a bit about yourself, and for your generous donation. Feel free to let me know if you need any help not already provided. :-) --GreenReaper(talk) 19:06, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

RBW 2011[edit]


Quick question re the removal of RBW 2011 from the 'upcoming events' template - the boat party is still going ahead, not the con - does the template only include conventions ? Bezel 10:54, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

In retrospect, it's probably best to leave it on. Sorry, I was just quickly running through the edits and didn't think it through. — beeps (talk, contribs) 10:57, 2 February 2011 (UTC)


Hi there !

I've just been updating the ConFuzzled 2011 entry, adding in the attendee list by country. Although I've entered what I believe are the correct ISO codes, several countries all seem to have the same flag symbol - specifically Netherlands, Belgium, Finland, Ireland, Switzerland, Estonia, Croatia, Hungary and Lithuania..... am I using the right ISO code set, or is there a bug ? Cheers. Bezel 15:15, 27 May 2011 (EDT)

A flag sprite contains the images specified in MediaWiki:Common.css. If the codes concerned are not in that list, they will not work. Apparently it needs to be updated. --GreenReaper(talk) 15:23, 27 May 2011 (EDT)

Ceil Fox[edit]

Thanks for that - everytime I tried adding the image to the article, it looked squished, so I left it out :) Bezel 08:58, 3 June 2011 (EDT) Also, why change the category order ? I wasn't aware that it made much difference.... Bezel 09:00, 3 June 2011 (EDT)

No problem. The category order doesn't really make any difference, but I tweaked it so it followed the "standard" category order. We generally go: People, then activity-related categories (Artists, Fursuiters, Musicians, Con Staff, etc), then character-related categories (like species), then geographical location, then dates (Birth, Death).--Higgs Raccoon 09:13, 3 June 2011 (EDT)

Notability / verifiability etc.[edit]

Sorry to bother you, but since this isn't Wikipedia, the verifiability / notability criteria are somewhat different, and I need some guidance - or at least pointing in the direction of some guidelines....

Basically, I was looking at the dead-end pages, and came across The Taylyin Railway - ostensibly a "short novel". Now, if this were WP, as you know, there would have to be indication that not only was this notable enough for inclusion, but also that it actually existed. Since it seems to be a piece of fan fiction written by Jacen Wallcroft, and since he doesn't seem to be notable enough to have anything published mainstream (i.e. outside the fandom), I was wondering whether the novel article should be included, deleted, or merged into the author's article ? This also leads to a further question - WikiFur (afaik) basically says that *any* fur can have an article - ok, but what about fan fiction that they may create ? Mainstream or widely available works, yes, but what about short stories, novels, poems etc. ? At what point do these pieces of work deserve articles of their own (or even inclusion in Wikifur ?). Does there have to be proof that the piece of work even exists ?!

A coda to this is - what constitutes self-advertising/promotion, and is it allowed on Wikifur ?

Any guidance you can give would be appreciated :) Bezel 11:18, 3 June 2011 (EDT)

I've added the "appropriate?" tag to the article in question, to see what other people think, but my feeling is that works-in-progress shouldn't be included on WikiFur. (Especially since they may or may ever be finished.)
I feel completed works should be included as a subsection in their authors' articles, unless they are particularly noteworthy - for example, something by a major established furry writer which has been formally published as a physical book probably would deserve its own article.--Higgs Raccoon 22:58, 6 June 2011 (EDT)

United Kingdom template[edit]

Hi Bezel, I don't do much with templates myself, so suggest asking your questions at the talk page of the template if you haven't already done so. If other contributors don't weigh in, then go with your best judgement. -- Sine 13:37, 15 June 2011 (EDT)

New users[edit]

Hi - since you seem to be active at the moment, if I'm adding a welcome message to a new users talk page, should I be using Hi Bezel, Welcome to WikiFur! Thank you for registering an account - we look forward to working with you. Let us know if you need any help not already provided. If you would like help creating an article or just editing it, don't hesitate to consult the Furry Book of Style or just contact a curator. Have a nice day! :-) / Welcome to WikiFur, and thank you for your recent contributions! Don't forget, you can get a free account (why should I?). Let us know if you need any help not already provided. :-), or Hello, Bezel, and welcome to WikiFur! How about you get started by creating a page about yourself? Simply go to Bezel (or your primary fandom name) and start typing! If you need help, please be sure to read The Furry Book of Style, and if you're still stumped, try the Help desk or contact a curator. , or something else entirely ? I'm not totally certain of which template to use (I've just been using what a few other editors have been using), and I was never totally clear about ising susbst anyway.... Bezel 08:36, 16 June 2011 (EDT)

Using what other editors use is probably a good start. The different "welcomes" are:
{{anon-welcome}} if you want to welcome a user who has not registered an account (ie just appears as an IP address).
{{article-welcome}} if a registered user has just created an article about themselves.
{{welcome}} if you want to give a general welcome to a registered user.
{{welcome-vanity}} if you want to suggest a newly-registered user make a vanity page about themselves.
--Higgs Raccoon 09:11, 16 June 2011 (EDT)
Thanks - should I be concerned about using "subst" at all when adding them ? Bezel 09:13, 16 June 2011 (EDT)
I'm not sure if it makes any difference. {{welcome}} seems to be have the same effect as {{subst:welcome}}--Higgs Raccoon 09:22, 16 June 2011 (EDT)

Thank you about LondonFurs[edit]

Thanks for catching my IRC mistake in the LondonFurs article. Correcting it now. --EarthFurst 02:39, 10 July 2011 (EDT)

Jim Henson[edit]

The proper way to bring is article in is, literally bring his article in (verbatim). After that, it would probably would need major reformatting to comply with Wikifur's own set, and a little blurb (or how) about his contribution to the fandom, that's all =) - Spirou 14:19, 11 July 2011 (EDT)

RBW boat party notice[edit]

Hi Bezel - you linked to an announcement about RBW, but when I try to access any of the posts in this forum I get "[#103139] You do not have permission to view this forum." despite being logged in. Do you know what's up with that - or even better, whether it was announced in a place which doesn't require registration? --GreenReaper(talk) 10:49, 29 July 2011 (EDT)

Flag icons[edit]

Your icons have been added, though it may take 24 hours to update for all of them to be seen. --GreenReaper(talk) 18:38, 26 May 2012 (EDT)

Guests of honour[edit]

Thank you for rearranging and adding information about ScotiaCon. When you add a category such as Category:ScotiaCon guests of honour, please make sure the information is also stated in the article text. With a reference is even better. Thanks! -- Sine 17:20, 31 August 2012 (EDT)

Further Confusion Charity totals[edit]

Hi. Have you had any luck in extracting the charity totals from FC for the past few years to be able to update the Timeline of charity donations article ? Bezel 03:43, 4 September 2012 (EDT)

Nope! I can try again, though . . . --GreenReaper(talk) 03:59, 4 September 2012 (EDT)
There were totals for both years in the budgets included with their 990 filing for 2011-2012 - $10,000 in 2011, $7000 in 2012. I updated the charity timeline. --GreenReaper(talk) 22:12, 28 December 2012 (EST)


Remember, if you add a category to an article, you should ensure that the article contains text that justifies its inclusion. For example, having added [[Category:ScotiaCon staff]] to Ceil Fox, you should also expand the text of that article to include a statement that he is on the staff of ScotiaCon.--Higgs Raccoon 13:28, 18 January 2013 (EST)

Image issues[edit]


I don't know if it's just me, but I'm having a couple of issues with images not displaying properly - such as the first image in the Furball Run article, and the 4th poster in the LondonFurs article (2012 summer party). Other images, even other ones in the same articles, are displaying ok so I'm not quite sure what's going on... Bezel 15:59, 13 February 2013 (EST)

Yes; these issues appear to affect up to 2/13 of images on WikiFur (and Flayrah/the Yerf Archive). They impact users differently depending on location - for example, I can see all the images you mention, but I am not able to see various other images on WikiFur:Gallery (characters). I have a ticket on file with CloudFlare. For now, please proceed as if the images were in place, as they should show up later once the issue is resolved. --GreenReaper(talk) 16:14, 13 February 2013 (EST)

Dhary Montecore[edit]

"Currently" as in...well...up to and including earlier this week :) Is there some particular phrase I should be using here ? Bezel 12:46, 20 September 2013 (EDT)

"As of (date)" would be good. The problem with "currently" is that it's rather vague.--Higgs Raccoon 12:51, 20 September 2013 (EDT)
I can understand that, but "as of September 19th, 2013", seems a bit too specific ! Like giving GPS co-ordinates for a furmeet :) I'll have a ponder Bezel 12:58, 20 September 2013 (EDT)
If you feel the day is too specific, try just broadening it to "As of September, 2013, he is working as a freelance event technician",--Higgs Raccoon 13:04, 20 September 2013 (EDT)

Uploading images[edit]

Hi. I;ve just uploaded File:EF2004 pawpetshow phantom.jpg to add to the article. As I have a few others to do, can I check a few things - is the size/resolution ok (or do I need to reduce one or both for the article), and is the licensing option I selected ok for this ? Regards Bezel 08:55, 29 September 2013 (EDT)

Looks fine. You can go a tad larger if you wish (but it is still good). Some of the things we watch for is size, DPI (the record holder is 3000 dpi), name (meaningful), not blurry or dark/faded, no watermarks, no urls like ads (unless it's part of the logo, officially), no dead zones/areas, focus on the item/logo/character/person, and relevant, among the obvious. But don't see nothing wrong with your image upload example =) - Spirou 17:58, 29 September 2013 (EDT)


Hi. I notice you've now split this up into seperate articles for each year, created a template etc. Is this standard policy where a convention has had at least one iteration and has announced there are plans for another one ? Bezel 09:31, 7 October 2013 (EDT)

Hi Bezel. I don't think there's anything written in stone, but it's what we do with the "big" conventions, and I see no harm in being consistent and treating the smaller conventions the same. Of course, it depends on how much there is to split off. With FurWAG there's only a few paragraphs to put in the year-specific articles, but I feel it's just enough to justify splitting it. If there was anything less than that then I'd probably keep them together in one article. (For example, in the article about EAST, there's only one or two sentences on each iteration of the event, so that's an article I would leave unsplit.)--Higgs Raccoon 09:49, 7 October 2013 (EDT)


BTW, thanks for all the editing work you've recently been doing on WikiFur. It's much appreciated.--Higgs Raccoon 10:36, 7 October 2013 (EDT)