Talk:The Yiffy Guide to Safer Sex

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Stub Removal[edit]

Hello, I'm adding a bunch of details to remove this piece from being a stub. This has apparently been a stub for a few years, so i just want to compile my changes for future reference.

  • accuracy revisions.
  • concise language
  • An in-depth summary of the content of the pamphlet and its history. it's fascinating that all the info exists but was never detailed on the wiki
  • took out this reference to the feebles. It seems like someone linked the Roadkill's Guide to the Con to this article thinking meet the feebles was the guide itself. it is not and has no relevance. Meet the Feebles ia a 1989 Peter Jackson film. [1]

This guide was created before I was even born, but it was one the first things I encountered coming into the fandom and oh boy was I still innocent thinking this would be as bad as it would get. Needless to say, I have some memories so I want to put more details into this piece. Artcwolf22 (talk) 14:16, 29 December 2022 (EST)

Accuracy of the guide[edit]

It should be noted that the guide contains some factual inaccuracies and omissions. I recognize that the guide was created in 1996, but I think the article here should at least mention it, and maybe someone might be interested in creating an updated guide.

  • HIV is not found in urine, but is found in breastmilk and pre-ejaculate.
  • The interruption method is not very effective because HIV is found in pre-cum, and it's completely inapplicable to cunillingus.
  • Using a condom or dental dam is the best way to increase the safety of oral sex.
  • It should be noted that oral sores can be transmitted to the genitals and vice versa.
  • Condoms can break or fall off even when used properly, though it is much less common.
  • Don't flush condoms. Not a safe sex thing, but it can lead to interesting plumbing issues (I've seen them)
  • nonoxynol-9 has fallen out of favor, and had little concrete evidence in support of HIV prevention

In general, the guide is very good, and it's certainly the best effort I've seen. I'm a peer educator on HIV/AIDS though, so these little things bug me.

Oops, forgot to sign. Above is per --horsedreamer 19:19, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Nonoxynol-9 is a detergent and causes inflammation in contacted tissue; as a result it actually -increases- the likelyhood of HIV infection.

I believe it also breaks down latex, making a spermicidal condom less protective than a regular one. Spaz Kitty 04:02, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
Well, less likely to be protective (from 80% vs sperm down to ???). -- Siege(talk) 08:29, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
I've not seen any studies showing it to break down latex, but the irritation does increase the risk of contracting an infection (of any kind) especially in sensitive individuals. Its effectiveness as a spermicide was never called into question, but it was my understanding that its spermicidal properties were not what was being promoted in the guide. In any case, there are more effective methods to augment condoms if birth control is a major concern (which for many it is not.) --horsedreamer 16:46, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

I will note some of these down as I try to expand on this article away from stub status. A lot of this is outdated by 2020, but it's a cool momento of safe sex at the time. Artcwolf22 (talk) 14:16, 29 December 2022 (EST)

Local copy[edit]

I think it would be worthwhile to have a copy of the actual PDF here on WikiFur. Thoughts? -- Sine 23:41, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Copyright ok? I'm sure I could dig up a copy, but I don't remember if their distribution license included electronic copies. horsedreamer 18:39, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
It states "Copyright 1996 A M-M. This guide may be re-printed and freely distributed as long as no alterations are made." -- Sine 19:55, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
That is actually a good idea Spirou 23:12, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

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