Talk:Neko (term)

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My understanding is that catgirls, an essentially-human character with vaguely-catlike ears and tail (and marking occasionally) aren't really considered furry. While there could be an article on that, I don't see even the skeleton of such in this, which has no mentioned relevance to furry. -- Sine 07:31, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

This reads like Wikipedia article. Hardly a mention to articles related to Wikifur, "Neko and furry" heading,... Adding an appropriate tag to it. The article is beautifully done,... if it add a furry interest data to it - Spirou 17:39, 8 May 2011 (EDT)
I think this article should be titled "Bakeneko", not just neko, which can also mean nekomimi. Other Japanese cat monsters, such as nekomata and maneki neko, are often interpreted as variations of bakeneko. Then, this article should focus on characters (not just creatures or monsters) who are bakeneko. Russian bakeneko article is built like that (though with much space devoted to legends, because this information is not so readily available in Russian). By the way, I even found one furry to have bakeneko fursona: [1]. Otaku called me that some time too %) EvilCat 18:09, 8 May 2011 (EDT)

Needs WikiFurfying[edit]

Also trimming, but is on the edge of relevant I think. -- Sine 13:26, 13 June 2011 (EDT)

"Error 503 Backend fetch failed" (Neko)[edit]

Trying to change [[Neko]] so it redirects to [[Neko (term)|Neko]] (disambiguation move). It keeps generating the same error message in Safari, Firefox, and Chrome (Mac/PC):

"Error 503 Backend fetch failed

Backend fetch failed

Guru Meditation:

XID: 13888963


Varnish cache server"

It has given me this error before, but after 17 tries, can another Curator try?. Thanks - Spirou (talk) 12:19, 22 July 2015 (EDT)

Any test performed by any other curator?. Is the error reproducible by anybody else?. Is the issue site (software) or hardware (hosting) based?. - Spirou (talk) 16:42, 23 July 2015 (EDT)
I can't reproduce the issue, on a selection of browsers and computers. The redirect works fine. There may have been a temporary error that has become stuck in your local cache, or in CloudFlare's local node; I've instructed CloudFlare to purge its cache of that page, and you could try clearing your own cache (often Ctrl+Shift+Del). I intend to remove some of these levels of caching in the future as this kind of interference is hard to track down. --GreenReaper(talk) 17:28, 23 July 2015 (EDT)
Will try again, caches on local Mac/PC were cleared during testing, but didn't help, just FYI. - Spirou (talk) 18:57, 23 July 2015 (EDT)
Nopers. Can't rename [[Neko]] to [[Neko (term)|Neko]]. Will start the disambiguation page, but all the pages link to Neko will end up on that disambiguation instead of the term article until the error is "fixed". - Spirou (talk) 23:23, 23 July 2015 (EDT)
You don't need to rename it, because it was already done by Higgs, yesterday. I don't know why you're seeing what you're seeing, but it does not reflect the current state of that page. --GreenReaper(talk) 23:34, 23 July 2015 (EDT)
Ah, Higgs just redirected Neko (which I just created a Disambiguation page out of it) to [[Neko (term)|Neko]]. I am trying to rename links with Neko (cat character, fursona, other, etc) to the [[Neko (term)|Neko]] article (fixing all prior articles linked [now broken] to the new renamed page). - Spirou (talk) 23:56, 23 July 2015 (EDT)
Something I learned the hard way with Fox (had to edit dozens and dozens of articles with Fox in them by hand before I was directed to the Rename page), but i did not have such a hard time fixing the dangling links as now. Renaming times out or errors to 503. - Spirou (talk) 00:02, 24 July 2015 (EDT)

Are nekomata a kind of bakeneko? (It really doesn't matter.)[edit]

Properly speaking, bakeneko is a kind of obake / bakemono, which are yokai who transform. In popular culture (but not all of history), nekomatas' defining feature is split tails, they don't have to transform. So a nekomata is not necessarily an bakeneko.

However in common usage, obake is "roughly synonymous with yōkai ", which makes nekomata a kind of obake too. Thus they are definitely also bakeneko.

But really it doesn't matter, because we're furries, and we should celebrate furry fiction. Nekomata / bakeneko are creatures of Japanese folklore, and in a modern fictional work, their mythology is whatever the author thinks will make a good story. It's like pawpads on rabbit characters: it's a mistake if you don't know real rabbits don't have pawpads, which is bad if you're aiming for biological accuracy. But if know it and you're doing it because it's cute, who am I to say that's wrong? It's not like real rabbits walk around on two legs, talk, and have human anatomy either :)

I think WikiFur can and should help inform the authors, so when they create inaccuracies in their story, it's not a mistake, but an intentional decision. For bakeneko / nekomata we could expand on the ambiguity.

(I'd add what I just said into the article, but I got too much to do right now /: ) --Kakurady (talk) 08:40, 8 February 2017 (EST)