Talk:Karl Jorgensen/Archive

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Just a small question: isn't the quib about "playing one on the internet" a little redundant? After all, it does say it's the "character," and not the person. --Verix 04:28, 20 Aug 2005 (UTC)

The quote in parenthesis is pointing at a joke disclaimer Xydexx uses. He notes that he's only an inflatable unicorn on the Internet as a kind of poke at people who say furries all think they're XX creature in real life. - ToyDragon
It probably should be noted that contrary to popular rumor that I have no sense of humor (rumor being I traded it for some magic beans back in 2001), the fact that I roleplay a silly, squeaky, endlessly enthusiastic and optimistic inflatable unicorn online should be enough to contradict this. Indeed, oftentimes in the past I've noticed some have brought forth the criticism that I take everything way too seriously, usually in response to me not laughing at their lame attempts at humor. This should be a lesson to one and all of these would-be comedians: If you need to tell someone to laugh at your jokes, they probably aren't as funny as you think they are.
I think part of the problem is that these folks simply cannot distinguish the difference between "laughing at someone" and "laughing at yourself". Perhaps a trip to their local library would be in order, if nothing else than to get these ne'er-do-wells off the internet and out of their parents' basements for a short while. I'd allow them access to my library, but I'm not sure they would understand my sense of humor and the resulting unusual take on the Dewey Decimal System, which allows me to take such liberties as filing William Zinsser's On Writing Well next to James Joyce's Finnegan's Wake, or Katherine Gates' Deviant Desires next to Dr. Seuss' I Can Lick 30 Tigers Today. Perhaps my sense of humor is just too subtle for their tastes. Maybe they don't know when the joke's on them.
So in response to Verix's question, the answer may be that while I do distinguish between Xydexx the character and Xydexx the person, the character does in fact have many of the characteristics of the person (genuinely silly, flexible, a veritable workhorse, &c.) but it also could be said that the person is quite a character.
In the interest of contrast, my younger brother Renfield isn't so much a character as an experience, but that's another story for another time. I assure you he's harmless. —Xydexx 05:00, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
I feel compelled to add this tidbit of information: I can babble away at the rate of approximately 3000 words per minute. Indeed, this is a skill I have perfected over my many years of being a computer geek, from my early days when all I has was a TRS-80 Color Computer and a 300 baud modem I bought for $350 from a mail order company in Texas. But here I suppose I am dating myself, and that's kinda kinky when you think about it. Nowadays, technology has improved a lot, yet we still don't have anything to prevent me from dropping my oatmeal raisin cookie all over my keyboard like I just did, dammit. I see no mention in the article that I like oatmeal raisin cookies, or that I buy them while biking out to the hinterlands on my weirdo bike. Nevertheless, I think most would agree that my character is quite a character, although I still don't like being in the spotlight much as folks fancy me some sort of internet celebrity I assure you I am otherwise unremarkable. Let us give thanks for horses, they're all better than the rest of us. —Xydexx 16:37, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
People probably wouldn't think you were dating yourself if you two didn't wear the same clothes. :-) As for cookies, they're apparently not furry enough, although I see signs that this may be changing. Now, if it were Nutella . . . --GreenReaper(talk) 16:35, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
Were I dating myself I certainly wouldn't wear the same clothes as my alter ego. It's bad enough Rigel and I do that and get mistaken for brothers more often than when we don't (which is to say we still do when we don't, but not as often, if you follow what I'm saying). What is it with people? We look nothing alike. Dating myself would also be problematic because we'd fight over who got to wear the inflatable rubber Xydexx costume, especially since it doesn't exist (I'd never leave the house!) yet. But I hardly leave the house these days anyway, what with Conbook Madness Month in full swing and all. I wrote a colophon today. It's like a bananaphone, but for fonts and publishing information, and is not edible. Unlike a bananaphone, which if you found in a book would probably just be nasty. Whose idea was it to make a bananaphone, anyway? It's like that old joke on Sesame Street (back when I was young and crazy and used to watch such shows) where Ernie has a banana in his ear and can't hear Bert telling him he has a banana in his ear because he has a banana in his ear—or perhaps is just on a very important phone call. Visionary! And this was years before Dr. Cat or Charlie the Unicorn were sticking bananas in their ears. It goes without saying that I like that video because the unicorns are wearing scuba gear and appear to be inflatable, but also that if we had a mile of track for every disclaimer Dr. Cat has posted to, we would have been able to build the first coast-to-coast furry railroad out of bananas. We should build such a railroad in honor of Dr. Cat and call it the "Funky Banana Railroad", so banana-worshipping weirdos like us can go sightseeing across the country. —Xydexx 06:34, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
In the spirit of Dr. Cat's Disclaimers, I just stumbled across one of my own I once posted to Usenet before I sold my sense of humor for some magic beans, which I submit for your enlightment:
The Xydexx Standard Disclaimer: Xydexx does not want to eat puppies. Xydexx also does not want to staple his tongue to a moving bus, build a coffee table out of live weasels, or have a sea hare fetish. Xydexx has not built a full-scale model of the Eiffel Tower out of tinkertoys and rusty barbed wire yet. Xydexx does not have a Bright Red Mohawk, is not boycotting Mu Press, and has no family members in the band GWAR. Xydexx does not like to eat cole slaw. Xydexx has never been to Idaho, gone skydiving, worn Jello, gone skydiving in Idaho while wearing Jello, or projectile vomited for a distance of more than 100 feet. Xydexx is not Elvis. Xydexx does not plan on building a rocket and going to live on the planet Jupiter. Xydexx is not a turnip or any other easily-thrown objects. Xydexx does not think whitetail deer are ugly, and sees no reason to dress them up in ballerina outfits to make them cuter. Xydexx has never gargled mayonaisse in a bingo parlor full of kleptomaniacs, ridden a 4-person unicycle, or knitted a sweater out of Wilford Brimley's armpit hair. Xydexx isn't really a weirdo, except when he is. Xydexx is not made of cauliflower, doesn't worship cauliflower in his secret underground headquarters, and doesn't believe that angry cauliflower gods will devour the planet someday. Xydexx has never had a pet water buffalo, nor has he ever brought a pet water buffalo to a furry convention. Xydexx has not removed text here; you saw nothing. Xydexx has never seen the giant moles that allegedly live beneath the Disputed Terminology Squabbling Territory. Xydexx has never had a laboratory with a giant magnetic telescope that sends comets and stars crashing down Main Street so that the next day the local papers are emblazoned with the headline MAGNETIC TELESCOPE THREATENS CITY. Xydexx didn't steal Ivy the inflatable reindeer from Tyson's Corner Mall, or if he did he's just not admitting it. Xydexx has never dressed up as Joan Jett or Elvira. Xydexx doesn't think it would be a good idea to paint a room with marmalade if you ever get on the TV show Trading Spaces. Xydexx is not afraid of cows. Xydexx does not think everyone is always after his Lucky Charms. Xydexx usually wears pants in public, except when he's wearing shorts. Xydexx is not really an inflatable unicorn, he just plays one on the internet. Xydexx doesn't think ignoring problems solves anything. Xydexx knows most people are smart enough not to need a lengthy disclaimer explaining things he doesn't believe and hasn't done, because most people know he doesn't like wasting his time arguing with people over things he never said in the first place.
Xydexx 03:08, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
By the way, it might be mentioned that I am responsible for the giant squid that comes with the latest Firefox update. Things haven't been the same since I sold my sense of humor for a sense of beans, in beany sensaround like that woman on the cover of 'Deviant Desires' covering herself in baked beans. And then I did disgusting things with the icing on the cake. —Xydexx 02:41, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
Apropos of nothing I would also like to tell you a little story: Keith the Kangaroo and Wally the Wombat were best of friends. One day Wally the Wombat climbed into Keith the Kangaroo's pouch. Then a weird kid came by and stapled the pouch shut. Now Keith has to hop around with a dead wombat in his pouch forever and ever. The End. —I Love Happy Endings
Some people will, naturally, the issue with this story, calling it into question by saying male kangaroos don't have pouches and whatnot, or that wombats are burrowing creatures so Wally could have burrowed his way out of Keith's pouch. They don't realize that Keith was female, (much like Kim Mohan, the D&D guy, is male. And burrowing out of Keith's pouch would have been messy and gruesome, like the time Greenreaper ate too many carrots and exploded, so we can't have that. The bottom line is, don't blame me, I didn't write the story, I'm just passing it along. —Xydexx 02:59, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

hey did you know he was mentioned extensively on encyclopeadia dramatica[edit]

Xydexx's trading card

hey did you know he was mentioned extensively on encyclopeadia dramatica?

They did indeed. I've always wanted one of those trading cards! I wouldn't trust the rest of their "coverage" further than I could shake an inflatable pony, though. --GreenReaper(talk) 02:22, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
Here ya go.
Xydexx 01:08, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
Those demon foxes - always causing trouble! --GreenReaper(talk) 01:12, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
A friend of mine recently summed up why ED never was and never will be funny when he said: Lulz are what's left over when all the humor's been sucked out of a joke.Xydexx 16:37, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Style Issues[edit]

Have whatever style issues people have with this article been resolved? If so, we can probably remove the banner. If there are still outstanding issues, let me know. —Xydexx 21:50, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Sine's comments from the edit summary were "Articles should be neutral and factual, without jokes, informal commentary or asides." I do not believe your edit addressed those, as it was mostly involved with adding material, and it was the only one since the tag was added. I'll have a go. --GreenReaper(talk) 12:11, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
That's terrific, but how come we never act, just sit watching as our world crumbles? I never claimed my edit addressed these issues. In fact, I intentionally didn't address them because I felt that was a task better suited to the individual who brought up the criticism to begin with. Since there had been no further activity on it since November, I asked if these issues had been resolved. —Xydexx 18:26, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Well, obviously they weren't resolved, because nothing had been done about it. ;-)
While anyone can spot a problem, the expectation is typically on the users actively editing the article to solve it, because they are usually the best able to deliver a solution that does not introduce further errors. For example, I might have accidentally removed real information that was phrased jokingly, not knowing that it was (in part) true, but you would not have done so.
Consider it a form of delegation. The user concerned may not have had the ability to solve the problem. They may also not have wished to do it, just as a programmer may be willing to spend five minutes to report a bug in another programmer's work, but not to spend half an hour fixing it - as on Wikipedia, some users specialize in watching recent changes for issues, pointing them out, and then moving on to the newest edits. Or, they may just have been pressed for time, and meant to come back later, but never did.
An inability or unwillingness to immediately solve the problem does not mean they shouldn't point out the problem at all - it just means they don't get credit for solving it. Adding a tag is not a solution; but, like a talk page comment, it highlights a problem to others, and means that those who also see it may be more likely to try to solve it, rather than worrying that they're being picky.
If the regular editors of the page do not (or cannot) solve the problem, and do not get around to asking anyone else about it, it falls to anyone passing by who cares to lend a hand. This doesn't always happen in any given period of time, particularly for less well-traveled pages, but we are prepared to be patient - on a wiki, there is always more time. As it happens, you did get concerned with the cleanup tag being there and did something about it which resulted in appropriate edits to resolve the problem, so the system works. Eventually. It sometimes works faster at larger sites, because there are more people to get ticked off by a cleanup tag. :-)
(To put the "less well-traveled" comment in context: Xydexx is WikiFur's 740th most popular page, with 127 visits [70 unique] in the last 30 days, tied with Furnetics, Misty the Mouse, Rabbit Valley, RainFurrest, Rubberfur, Midwest FurFest convention resources and - ironically - WikiFur's style guide. It is not unpopular, but if we're looking at readership there are other pages that editors probably should probably focus on, even disregarding the fact that most work mainly on their own interests.) --GreenReaper(talk) 20:47, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Well, three cheers for cow tipping then. My main concern was the style issues, because I wouldn't want folks to think I didn't have any style. Nor did I want to appear gauche by adding more in-jokey information and once again raising the ire of the wikigods and have to sacrifice wild yams in order to appease them. I can at least take consolation in knowing I am the wikipage less-traveled because all the links leading to this page say "Here There Be Ponies" and everyone's been frightened away by my tales of my younger brother braiding his armpit hair like a demented Pippi Longstocking. Thank you for the clarification. —Xydexx 03:16, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
I don't think anyone who sees the card on this page will have any questions about the level of style you possess. Same for myself and anyone who goes to GreenReaper. As for sacrifices, they tend to prefer cheesecake, or failing that, fresh carrots. :-) --GreenReaper(talk) 06:33, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
I suppose your page has more style by virtue of your wardrobe, which consists of nothing but shades of green as far as I've seen. You probably have more green articles of clothing than I have purple ones. One would think someone of sunshiney disposition such as myself would have more brightly-colored clothing, but such is not the case. I think this is highly-important research, but everyone is crazy if you don't understand their motives. —Xydexx 20:27, 10 January 2008 (UTC)