Talk:Jogauni (species)/2006

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At the bottom of the article is the text All the above (c) Luskwood Creatures 2006. Unless the text is being made available under the GFDL, we're going to have to remove it. :-( --Dmuth 01:56, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

I've deleted this. If someone from Luskwood wants to add it back under the GFDL, that's their call. --GreenReaper(talk) 03:14, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Not so sure if (c)'ing the text itself was meant to limit its editing on the Wiki, it really wasn't... don't have a problem with that; furthermore need to look into more of what the GNU and GFDL means for it all. Can certainly assure it was posted with permission; Just don't want other people taking the entire Jogauni backstory, claiming they made it, and marketing it to Disney or such. --Michi Lumin 17:05 and 17:06, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Basically, whatever text you post on WikiFur can be used elsewhere without further permission, in part or in whole, as long as those people give the same rights to other people under the same license. Realistically, it's unlikely that anyone would actually do that, and your specific fear is unfounded as they could not legally distribute the work without mentioning who the original authors were. --GreenReaper(talk) 17:51, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Regarding the creation of the Jogauni[edit]

Hate to tell you guys this, but they didn't exactly create the character. It comes from the game D&D, and has been around for a while. I am unsure of weither or not thats what the character looked like in the game but I do know that my husband who was an avid player for a long time, recognized what I was as soon as I said the name. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 21:18, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

I googled for 'jogauni', and found nothing relating to D&D whatsoever. Do you have any references? Spaz Kitty 21:22, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

I've done some research, and there does not appear to be any Jogauni ever in D&D, and I definately can prove that for atleast 3rd edition and 3.5 to never have them and through others that there is none in any back through time. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 03:05, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Er, no, not even a little bit.[edit]

If you can find a citation anywhere in D&D where Jogauni are referenced, please do. They did not come from there. We created the name from the root Nepali word "Jogaunu" which means 'to save'. We added our own pluralization to it and came up with "Jogauni". The idea was that each tribe was the keeper or "saver" of its respective element.

It had -zero- search engine hits before we decided to use the name. And we did searches intentionally, for this reason. (Additionally, if you do a search on it now, every hit is in reference to the 'Jogauni' of our creations, or derivatives thereof.) None of us are, or were, D&D players.

You will find -no- references legitimately dated before our release of them. If you would like to know when that was, please do enquire with me or any other of the Luskwood founders.

Simply put: we created them, wholly, and they are not derivatives of anything.

Currently I see zero hits for Jogauni with association to Dungeons and Dragons, along with common close spellings such as "Joguani" and "Jogani".

If it does exist in the D&D texts, which it does not -- it simply factually does not -- it would be very easy to find.

The myth was not modeled after anything. We even intentionally used non-traditional elemental points (i.e. metal) and the tribes are not neccessarily diametrically opposed to eachother; they are complimentary. (though many people 'play them' as if they are diametrically opposed.)

I can assure you, that I was there for the entirety of the creative process -- and you are mistaken. We did not use any external sources for the Jogauni.

-- Michi Lumin 03:10 and 03:12, 28 September 2006 (UTC) and some of the preceding comment was edited by (talkcontribs) 03:21 and 03:23, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Citations Please?[edit]

I don't remember Jogauni from AD&D 1st or 2nd edition... You really can't basically accuse someone of plagiarizing an idea without at least a citation. What published work are you claiming originated the Jogauni? Are you sure you aren't talking about someone's campaign in which they happened to create a character from a dog-like race of tribals? --Chromal / —The preceding semi-unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 03:22 and 03:23, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Is he thinking of a 'Jaguarundi' ?[edit]

Those are a species of south american cat, which have been featured as a D&D monster occasionally. (i.e. a real species of jaguar related mid-sized cat that lives in the central/south american rainforests) Which of course, has absolutely nothing to do with jogauni other than its a somewhat similarly 'shaped' word.

Jaguarundi @ wikipedia

-- eltee —The preceding semi-unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 03:46, 28 September 2006 (UTC)