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User talk:Zjonni

2009-05-27T20:59:58Z

Zjonni:

Hi there, Zjonni, and welcome to WikiFur! Thanks for the corrections to the article about yourself and the other information you contributed - [[User talk:GreenReaper|let me know]] if you need any [[help]] not already provided. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 03:59, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!

Feel free to mail me if you aren't sure which page I am talking about.

:It has been removed. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 17:43, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

List of members of Rowrbrazzle

2009-03-25T00:57:04Z

Zjonni: ...And moved to the correct spot alphabetically.

The following is a '''list of members of, and contributors to, the ''[[Rowrbrazzle]]'' amateur press association magazine'''.

== Staff and artists ==
==== Administrative ====
* Marc Schirmeister (Editor 1983-1988. Permanent Honorary member since 1989.)<ref name="#26">Contributors to [http://www.furbid.ws/cgi-bin/auction/item.pl?item=232339334 #26] (July 1990)</ref><ref name="#27">Contributors to [http://www.furbid.ws/cgi-bin/auction/item.pl?item=232339335 #27] (October 1990)</ref>
* John Cawley (Co-Editor 1983-1988.)
* Fred Patten (Joined 1984, Editor 1988-2005. Left position in mid 2005 due to illness.)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* Edd Vick (Interim Editor 2005, 2006 (3 issues))
* William Earl Haskell (Editor Summer, 2007 - present)

==== Permanent Honorary members ====
* [[Ken Sample]] (1988-n/a)<ref name="#27" />
* [[Fred Patten]] (2006 on)

==== Members ====

{| width="100%"
|- valign="top"
||
===# & A-F===
* [[Juan Alfonso]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[Robert Alley]] (2006 - present)
* [[Kaijima Appleseed]] (? - ?)
* [[Kjartan Arnorsson|Kjartan "Karno" Arnorsson]] (? - present)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[Mark "Th' Mole" D. Ashworth]] (1985 - present)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[James "Slim Jim" Edward Babcock]] (? - ?, 2006 - present)
* [[Donna Barr]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" />
* [[Greg Bear]] (? - ?)
* [[Mitch Beiro]] (? - present)<ref name="#26" />
* [[James W. 'Tibo' Birdsall]] (? - present)
* [[Andrea Cavallaro]] (? - ?)<ref name="#27" />
* [[Michael Campbell]] (? - present)
* [[Flinthoof|Dan 'Flinthoof' Canaan]] (? - present)
* [[Robert Carspecken]] (? - ?)
* [[Jack Cavanaugh]] (? - ?)<ref name="#27" />
* [[Richard Chandler]] (#61 - #68)
* [[Jimmy Chin]] (? - ?)
* [[Don Chisholm]] (? - present)
* [[Steve Corbett]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" />
* [[Mike Curtis]] (often with Carole Curtis) (? - present)
* [[Darin C. Davis]] (? - ?)<ref name="#27" />
* [[David DuPerre]] (? - ?)
* [[Eric Elliott]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" />
* [[Will Faust]] (? - present)<ref name="#26" />
* [[Timothy Fay]] (1983 - present)<ref name="#27" />
* [[Bill Fitts]] (? - ?, ? - present)
* [[Dan Flahive]] (? - ?)<ref name="#27" />
* [[Bill Fortier]] (? - ?)
* [[Brad W. Foster]] (1984 and 1986)
* [[Mark Freid]] (1998 - 2000)
||

===G-L===
* [[Jason Gaffney|Jason "Jagafeh" Gaffney]] (? - ?)
* [[Carl Gafford]] (? - ?)
* [[Charles Garofalo]] (? - present)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[Roz Gibson]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[Sara K. Gray]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[Jim Groat]] (1983 - 1999)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[William Earl Haskell]] (2005 - 2006, editor issue 90)
* [[Rob Haynie]] (? - ?)
* [[Cathy Hill]] (? - ?)<ref name="#27" />
* [[Robert Hill]] (? - ?)
* [[Craig Hilton]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[Tracy Horton]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[Zephery Hughes]] (? - present)
* [[Mike Kazaleh]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[Shawn Keller]] (? - ?)
* [[Mike Kelly]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[Steve Kerry]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" />
* [[Paul Kidd]] (? - withdrew Oct 1998, #59)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[Kris Kreutzman]] (? - present)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[Dave Kuhn]] (? - ?)<ref name="#27" />
* [[Tom Linehan]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[Monika Livingstone]] (? - ?) />
* [[Louis Scarborough Jr.|Lou Scarborough]] (? - ?)
||

===M-R===
* [[Scott Malcomson]] (? - ?)
* [[Steve Martin]] (1984 - ?)<ref name="#27" />
* [[Jed Gary Martinez]] (? - present)
* [[Michael-Scot McMurry]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[Chuck Melville]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[Mark Merlino]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" />
* [[Carl Fox|Karl F. Meyers]] (Oct 1998 - Jan 2002)
* [[Noah Miller]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[Tom Milliorn]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[Rusty Mills]] (? - ?)
* [[Rudy Minger]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[Carolyn Mitchell]] (? - ?)
* [[Wayne Modjeski]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[Jeremy Morales]] (? - ?)<ref name="#27" />
* [[Phil Morrissey]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" />
* [[JP Morgan]] (? - present)
* [[Cindy Murata]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" />
* [[Lex Nakashima]] (? - ?)<ref name="#27" />
* [[Garrett No]] (? - ?)<ref name="#27" />
* [[Per Okerstrom]] (? - ?)
* [[Tom Owens]] (? - ?)
* [[Michael Oxley]] (? - ?)
* [[Valerio Pastore]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[Bill Pitts]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[Melody Pondeau]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[Roy D. Pounds II]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[James Price|James "Q" Price]] (? - ?)
* [[Rod O'Riley]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" />
* [[Betty Roget]] (mid 1990s)
* [[Lance Rund]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" />
||

===S-Z===

* [[Stan Sakai]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[Chris Sanders]] (? - ?)
* [[Chris Sawyer]] (? - ?)
* [[M. Schaefer]] (2007 - present)
* [[Steven F. Scharff]] (1983 - present)<ref name="#27" />
* [[David Schneberger]] (? - ?)
* [[Peter Stoller]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" />
* [[Bob Scott]] (? - ?)
* [[Axel Shaikman]] (? - ?)
* [[Jay Shell]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[Ted Shepherd]] (?- ?)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[James Smith]] (? - ?)
* [[Terrie Smith]] (? - 2006)<ref name="#27" />
* [[Wolf Smith]] (? - ?)<ref name="#27" />
* [[Chris Sobieniak]] (2005 - present)
* [[John Speidel]] (? - ?, 2006 - present)
* [[Mark Stanley]] (? - ?)<ref name="#27" />
* [[Joe Strike]] (? - present)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[Michael J. Susko]] (? - present)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[Bengaley Summercat| Henry Thiel]] (2007 - present)
* [[G. W. Thomas]] (? - ?)
* [[Marc S. Tucker]] (? - ?)
* [[Tom Verre]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[Diana Vick]] (? - ?)
* [[Edd Vick]] (1984 - present)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[Mark Wallace]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[Wendell Washer]] (? - ?)
* [[Taral Wayne]] (1984 - ?)<ref name="#26" />
* [[Deal Whitley]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" />
* [[Colleen Winters]] (? - ?)
* [[Jeff Wood]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[Zjonni]] (? - ?)<ref name="#27" />
|}

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[[Category:Lists]]

List of members of Rowrbrazzle

2009-03-25T00:54:03Z

Zjonni: Edited to remove truename per earlier requests (see editing notation on my own page).

The following is a '''list of members of, and contributors to, the ''[[Rowrbrazzle]]'' amateur press association magazine'''.

== Staff and artists ==
==== Administrative ====
* Marc Schirmeister (Editor 1983-1988. Permanent Honorary member since 1989.)<ref name="#26">Contributors to [http://www.furbid.ws/cgi-bin/auction/item.pl?item=232339334 #26] (July 1990)</ref><ref name="#27">Contributors to [http://www.furbid.ws/cgi-bin/auction/item.pl?item=232339335 #27] (October 1990)</ref>
* John Cawley (Co-Editor 1983-1988.)
* Fred Patten (Joined 1984, Editor 1988-2005. Left position in mid 2005 due to illness.)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* Edd Vick (Interim Editor 2005, 2006 (3 issues))
* William Earl Haskell (Editor Summer, 2007 - present)

==== Permanent Honorary members ====
* [[Ken Sample]] (1988-n/a)<ref name="#27" />
* [[Fred Patten]] (2006 on)

==== Members ====

{| width="100%"
|- valign="top"
||
===# & A-F===
* [[Juan Alfonso]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[Robert Alley]] (2006 - present)
* [[Kaijima Appleseed]] (? - ?)
* [[Kjartan Arnorsson|Kjartan "Karno" Arnorsson]] (? - present)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[Mark "Th' Mole" D. Ashworth]] (1985 - present)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[James "Slim Jim" Edward Babcock]] (? - ?, 2006 - present)
* [[Donna Barr]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" />
* [[Greg Bear]] (? - ?)
* [[Mitch Beiro]] (? - present)<ref name="#26" />
* [[James W. 'Tibo' Birdsall]] (? - present)
* [[Andrea Cavallaro]] (? - ?)<ref name="#27" />
* [[Michael Campbell]] (? - present)
* [[Flinthoof|Dan 'Flinthoof' Canaan]] (? - present)
* [[Robert Carspecken]] (? - ?)
* [[Jack Cavanaugh]] (? - ?)<ref name="#27" />
* [[Richard Chandler]] (#61 - #68)
* [[Jimmy Chin]] (? - ?)
* [[Don Chisholm]] (? - present)
* [[Steve Corbett]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" />
* [[Mike Curtis]] (often with Carole Curtis) (? - present)
* [[Darin C. Davis]] (? - ?)<ref name="#27" />
* [[David DuPerre]] (? - ?)
* [[Eric Elliott]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" />
* [[Will Faust]] (? - present)<ref name="#26" />
* [[Timothy Fay]] (1983 - present)<ref name="#27" />
* [[Bill Fitts]] (? - ?, ? - present)
* [[Dan Flahive]] (? - ?)<ref name="#27" />
* [[Bill Fortier]] (? - ?)
* [[Brad W. Foster]] (1984 and 1986)
* [[Mark Freid]] (1998 - 2000)
||

===G-L===
* [[Jason Gaffney|Jason "Jagafeh" Gaffney]] (? - ?)
* [[Carl Gafford]] (? - ?)
* [[Charles Garofalo]] (? - present)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[Roz Gibson]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[Sara K. Gray]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[Jim Groat]] (1983 - 1999)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[William Earl Haskell]] (2005 - 2006, editor issue 90)
* [[Rob Haynie]] (? - ?)
* [[Cathy Hill]] (? - ?)<ref name="#27" />
* [[Robert Hill]] (? - ?)
* [[Craig Hilton]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[Tracy Horton]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[Zephery Hughes]] (? - present)
* [[Mike Kazaleh]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[Shawn Keller]] (? - ?)
* [[Mike Kelly]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[Steve Kerry]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" />
* [[Paul Kidd]] (? - withdrew Oct 1998, #59)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[Kris Kreutzman]] (? - present)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[Dave Kuhn]] (? - ?)<ref name="#27" />
* [[Tom Linehan]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[Monika Livingstone]] (? - ?) />
* [[Louis Scarborough Jr.|Lou Scarborough]] (? - ?)
||

===M-R===
* [[Scott Malcomson]] (? - ?)
* [[Steve Martin]] (1984 - ?)<ref name="#27" />
* [[Jed Gary Martinez]] (? - present)
* [[Michael-Scot McMurry]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[Chuck Melville]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[Mark Merlino]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" />
* [[Carl Fox|Karl F. Meyers]] (Oct 1998 - Jan 2002)
* [[Noah Miller]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[Tom Milliorn]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[Rusty Mills]] (? - ?)
* [[Rudy Minger]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[Carolyn Mitchell]] (? - ?)
* [[Wayne Modjeski]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[Jeremy Morales]] (? - ?)<ref name="#27" />
* [[Phil Morrissey]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" />
* [[JP Morgan]] (? - present)
* [[Cindy Murata]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" />
* [[Lex Nakashima]] (? - ?)<ref name="#27" />
* [[Garrett No]] (? - ?)<ref name="#27" />
* [[Per Okerstrom]] (? - ?)
* [[Tom Owens]] (? - ?)
* [[Michael Oxley]] (? - ?)
* [[Valerio Pastore]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[Zjonni]] (? - ?)<ref name="#27" />
* [[Bill Pitts]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[Melody Pondeau]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[Roy D. Pounds II]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[James Price|James "Q" Price]] (? - ?)
* [[Rod O'Riley]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" />
* [[Betty Roget]] (mid 1990s)
* [[Lance Rund]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" />
||

===S-Z===

* [[Stan Sakai]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[Chris Sanders]] (? - ?)
* [[Chris Sawyer]] (? - ?)
* [[M. Schaefer]] (2007 - present)
* [[Steven F. Scharff]] (1983 - present)<ref name="#27" />
* [[David Schneberger]] (? - ?)
* [[Peter Stoller]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" />
* [[Bob Scott]] (? - ?)
* [[Axel Shaikman]] (? - ?)
* [[Jay Shell]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[Ted Shepherd]] (?- ?)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[James Smith]] (? - ?)
* [[Terrie Smith]] (? - 2006)<ref name="#27" />
* [[Wolf Smith]] (? - ?)<ref name="#27" />
* [[Chris Sobieniak]] (2005 - present)
* [[John Speidel]] (? - ?, 2006 - present)
* [[Mark Stanley]] (? - ?)<ref name="#27" />
* [[Joe Strike]] (? - present)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[Michael J. Susko]] (? - present)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[Bengaley Summercat| Henry Thiel]] (2007 - present)
* [[G. W. Thomas]] (? - ?)
* [[Marc S. Tucker]] (? - ?)
* [[Tom Verre]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[Diana Vick]] (? - ?)
* [[Edd Vick]] (1984 - present)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[Mark Wallace]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
* [[Wendell Washer]] (? - ?)
* [[Taral Wayne]] (1984 - ?)<ref name="#26" />
* [[Deal Whitley]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" />
* [[Colleen Winters]] (? - ?)
* [[Jeff Wood]] (? - ?)<ref name="#26" /><ref name="#27" />
|}

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User talk:GreenReaper

2009-03-13T17:29:48Z

Zjonni: /* RL name linked against noted wishes */ new section

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== [[Sage Nadia]] ==

y'know man, you should really fix sage nadia's article.

I know this site's not known for being a reliable source of neutral point of view, but her article's really off the track. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:70.53.151.146|70.53.151.146]] ([[User talk:70.53.151.146|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/70.53.151.146|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.

thanks and no problem...

-Hydrassas

== What is wrong with Cubist???? ==

Honestly, what is this person's problem? Their retort to my post is baffling to say that least - as if they're on the verge of insanity or something...

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Cubist, Have you ever even considered the the situation might be a result of the "breakdown of diplomacy"? If neither side is willing to lower their sabre, at least part way, things will only continue the way they have been.

Removing his name would not necessarily have to be permanent - whether it remains off the article would be dependant upon Mozdoc's future conduct.

It seems that in this day and age, the only thing being polite and respectful gets a person is ignored, told to f - off, or hit. And THAT is what I believe is going on with Mozdoc - society has kind of taught him the bad habit that unless you are confrontational and ready to resort to force, people will not listen to you.

If we are going to judge Mozdoc on what society as a whole has drummed into him, then we need also judge ourselves.

Do we wish to continue on this downward spiral that civilization is sliding down, or do we wish to TRY to at least slow the degeneration?

All hail VLADUZ - the EBAY IMPALER! 22:14, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Shorter 'Vladuz': "If we don't remove Mozdoc's real name from his Wikifur page, the terrorists win!" Overblown histrionics much, V-boy? I say you're a concern troll, and I say the hell with you. And my vote remains the same. Cubist 11:14, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

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I ask you, is there ANYTHING in my post that could be considered an attack on Cubist? And do you know of any reason why Cubist would choose to launch an attack upon me?

[[User:AnthroSamurai|All hail VLADUZ - the EBAY IMPALER!]] 17:31, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

:The simplest conclusion is that he is being honest - that the reason for his assertion is he believes you to be a [[Wikipedia:Internet troll#Concern troll|concern troll]]. I don't see any reason to suggest that he is implying that you made an attack on him - just that he strongly disagrees with you and suspects your motives. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 18:03, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

QUOTE CUBIST: '''Shorter 'Vladuz': "If we don't remove Mozdoc's real name from his Wikifur page, the terrorists win!" Overblown histrionics much, V-boy?'''

[[User:AnthroSamurai|All hail VLADUZ - the EBAY IMPALER!]] 18:06, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

:Right. He believes that your statements are overblown histronics. The form of his expression might be considered an attack on you, but does not imply that he felt that you attacked ''him'', as you said. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 18:08, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

"A concern troll is a false flag pseudonym created by a user whose point of view is opposed to the one that the user's sockpuppet claims to hold. The concern troll posts in web forums devoted to its declared point of view and attempts to sway the group's actions or opinions while claiming to share their goals, but with professed "concerns". The goal is to sow fear, uncertainty and doubt within the group."

Excuse me a moment... (Falls out of chair laughing).

Ok, so let me get this straight - because I am TRYING to to get both sides to stand down to some degree, Cubist is claiming that I am Mozdoc using a second account???? Oh good lord, not ANOTHER person like "triple W" :)) Why is it anytime someone doesn't agree, they have to claim that the person they disagree with is a "sock"???? That is really pathetic, do you not think?

[[User:AnthroSamurai|All hail VLADUZ - the EBAY IMPALER!]] 18:14, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

:No, that is not the meaning of the term. He appears to believe that you do not actually support the same goals as the wiki, but are trying to subvert them by pretending that you do. For example, if giving people fair treatment was one of the goals of the wiki you might express concerns that Mozdoc is not getting fair treatment, thereby hoping to elicit sympathy from those who would otherwise have a neutral or negative opinion. The trouble with making such assertions is that people's motives are unknown to us without some external form of confirmation, therefore they are hard to prove or disprove. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 18:31, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

The method Cubist used to do it is SO childish, it makes me wonder if I should just put him/her over me knee and spank him/her. :))

Mozdoc needs to learn to control his temper - I can sympathize with that. I also know how most of society can literally drive people like Mozdoc to such actions.

By only using punishment against him, we only further reinforce his behavior. That's not to say we should just give in and remove it to stop threats - just the opposite. HOWEVER, If it is removed, and you and the others make it CLEARLY known that
1 - it CAN be added in again should the threats resume.
2 - that it is being done for fairness sake.

I believe it will have a greater positive impact not only on the conflict but upon Mozdoc himself.

By the way, kindly take a look at my user page ;) :))
That should (hopefully) show we are two different peole - Mozdoc tends to simply open fire, wjile I tend to toy with those who make such pathetic attacks.

[[User:AnthroSamurai|So I am a SOCK?? WHY am I always the last to know these things? :))]] 18:55, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

:As far as I know, the only person who has brought up the concept of you being the same person as Mozdoc is you. The assertions made by Cubist relate to the pursuit of similar goals while professing neutrality, not similar identity.

:I am unsure how much any of us can help Mozdoc. I've talked to him on several occasions and made no long-term progress. The whole reason the page is here in the first place is that counseling hasn't worked to stop the harassment of others in the fandom. As I understand it, its purpose isn't to coerce the subject into good behaviour (because punishment doesn't work), but to ameliorate the effects of his bad behaviour on others. The question is whether or not the real name is a requirement for this. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 19:31, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

== Content Concern ==

Hey dude! I have a suggestion that Wiki Fur needs to be kept PG rated as possible since we don't want people offended by nude and yiff images. I have to change an image from one of the articles here. Remember you have furries going to this site from all over the world and we need to respect them as much as we can. [[User:ChuongChoSoi|ChuongChoSoi]] 18:02, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

:Hello Chuong. [[WikiFur:What WikiFur is not#WikiFur is not censored for the protection of minors|WikiFur policy]] (like [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not censored|Wikipedia's policy]]) is that our content may be of any rating because of the variety of topics within the fandom. There are many topics of a mature nature, and some mature elements within other topic. We appreciate that there are differences in morals around the world, but we would rather not censor ourselves just to fit the more restrictive societies.

:Nevertheless, I thank you for changing the picture, not because the original picture was naked, but because I believe it is a better (more accurate) depiction of fat furs. That said, you do not appear to be the copyright holder, so I must ask you - did you obtain permission to use it from the author, [http://gokutothez.deviantart.com/ gokutothez]? If we are not talking about the specific character, it is not fair for us to use it without permission. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 18:22, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

== Sage Nadia again ==

Why are things so slow around here? her article's been tagged as being a pile of biased shit (my own words) and yet any edit gets reverted to this steaming pile of turd. what's going on with you?

:The page is not protected. If you have a problem with it, I suggest you edit it yourself - and [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Sage_Nadia&action=history recent edits] do not demonstrate the reversions that you claim. I am [[WikiFur:Moving hosts|somewhat preoccupied]] at the moment and cannot guarantee to give it any significant time in the near future. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 17:16, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

== Entry: Thaily ==

Greetings Mr.GreenReaper,

I am writing this on behalf of Thaily Brimstone, her page, [[Thaily Brimstone]] has been restored. Could you please remove this and lock it down. She does not wish to have any article about her on this site.

Thank you for your understanding,

PeglaSkunk

:Please, call me Green. ;-)
:I have in fact just done this, after a conversation with Thaily over ICQ to clarify her intentions. The main issue was the percieved non-neutrality of excluding some pieces of information but not others; we're actually more comfortable with complete exclusion, and it seems so was Thaily, so everyone's happy. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 08:22, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

== Assistance requested in adding "Rukario" to the list of fursuiters. ==

Good Evening GreenReaper:

I am looking for assistance in adding "Rukario" to the list of clickable fursuit links on Wikifur under the heading of "fursuit".

Any assistance that you can provide would be greatly apprecriated.

I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Prosperous Regards,

[[User:Rukario|Rukario]] 23:21, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

:Hello Rukario - I moved the [[Rukario|page about you]] to the main namespace, and added the necessary categories. You should appear in [[:Category:Fursuiters]] now. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 02:02, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

==message from RVDDP2501 - logged in==

Hey GreenReaper, I'm sorry to bother you but something has been bugging me the last couple of days, I can never stay logged in on wikifur, everytime I revisit the site, I have to log back in and I can't figure out why? please let me know what is happening, thank you - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 02:27, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

:Something to do with your browser? You could try clearing out the cookies for wikia.com to see if that is the problem. They might have changed something on their end, though. I've not seen that problem recently myself. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 02:31, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

== Admissibility of [[Happy Feet]]-related articles ==

Hello,

When {{u|Higgs Raccoon}} created [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Diti&oldid=206809 this article] about me, I was pleased, of course. This event lead me to think more of the concept of this wiki, and it is actually very good. I now want to contribute on it as much as I do on Wikipedia.

I just wanted to know, since {{u|Higgs Raccoon}} wikified the word [[Happy Feet]], if we were allowed:
# To make an article about the [http://penguins.wikia.com/wiki/Happy_Feet_Fan_Forum Happy Feet Fan Forum], constituted by some furs, and perhaps more than we know. This page is under the GFDL as well, can I copy some informations from it? Where do the authors need to be credited? Talk page or article page?
# To put gigantic informations about this movie, a sort of analysis, and its application to the [[Furry fandom|fandom]]? Can we upload pictures, using the fair use act?

Thanks for your upcoming replies! :) [[User:Diti|Diti]] ([[User talk:Diti|talk to the penguin]]) 14:43, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

:There's basically two options for the forum - either create [[Happy Feet]] and make the forum a subsection of that, or create [[Happy Feet Fan Forum]]. The normal thing to do is the latter - have a separate article for the forum. I would suggest tightening the language in the history section a little, though. It should concentrate on the facts, not subjective statements like "grew quickly" (how quickly?). The talk page should mention and link to the prior article.

:We tend not to do really huge articles about commercial works because Wikipedia does it better than us. We are not created to compete with them in their field of expertise - we would rather readers and editors went there instead. Therefore, what I would recommend is to make an article with an overview of the movie, but which concentrates ''specifically'' on the usage of Happy Feet within the furry fandom (which Wikipedia is not likely to cover), and then point people to [[Wikipedia:Happy Feet|Wikipedia's article]] in the "See also" section. Fair use is fine. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 01:04, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

== Blacklisted URL Causing Problems with Reverting Vandal Edit. ==

The Edit at [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=God_Hates_Furries&diff=209021&oldid=201069 http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=God_Hates_Furries&diff=209021&oldid=201069] shows blatant vandalism and was reported by my bot as made by a blacklisted user. The problem is there is a URL in the revert that is listed as one of Wikia blacklisted URLs and is preventing me from making the revert. Since you have the access level can you make the revert? [[User:Sawblade5|Sawblade5]] 10:24, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

:Please disregard this message I got the problem fixed on #wikia on Freenode. [[User:Sawblade5|Sawblade5]] 10:26, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

== Opening the door... ==

Question: How come there is an article on [[centaur]]s but not one on [[mermaid]]s? Recently, I was going to write a article about mermaids and I saw the log about it being deleted because it's "not furry". I don't mean to insult anyone's intelligence here but, a centaur is "top half human, lower half horse" (you know what I mean) and a mermaid is "half woman half fish" I seriously don't see the problem...

Is it because there are [[foxtaur]]s, [[skunktaur]]s and [[chakat]]s, and one would be very hard pressed to find a picture of a furry mermaid? Or because if an article on the mermaid is allowed, it'll open the door for articles on the lamia (half woman half snake), medusa, the harpy and anansi (part man, part spider I think)?

I'm confused... [[User:Tai 1|Tai 1]] 03:27, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

:Did you have a look at the past discussion on [[Talk:Mermaid]]? That might answer some of your questions. -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 19:14, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

I didn't realise that was a talk:Mermaid link...I still don't agree about why there isn't a mermaid entry though...[[User:Tai 1|Tai 1]] 22:51, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

== Toolbox in ru.wikifur.com ==
Hi, GreenReaper. Thank you for creating Wikifur.com itself and Russian language part! Toolbox on the left sidebar has wrong link to Upload file feature. It needs to be changed to [http://ru.wikifur.com/wiki/Служебная:Upload Служебная:Upload].
As for now I have many questions to you about customization of ru.wikifur.com. Which way of contacting you is more appropriate for questions regarding ru.wikifur? (email, IRC, ICQ, maybe ru.talk page, any other) [[User:OckhamTheFox|OckhamTheFox]] 07:11, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
:Hi Ockham! My contact information is [http://greenreaper.livejournal.com/profile here] (make sure you are logged on). Email, IRC and/or ICQ is fine - I am always on the first two if awake. As for the images, the plan had been to upload all new images to the pool wiki, so that they could be used on all languages (like Wikimedia Commons) - but if you think that is not going to work I can change the link back. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])
One shared file repository is a good idea for saving server drive space. But motivation of anon users to register is lowered since no more extra feature of uploading files available. Ok, so be it. The second problem is russification of WikiFur namespace. ВикиФур: is counted like articles and may appear in Random articles. For example ru.wikipedia Википедия: is counted the same as in en.wikipedia Wikipedia:. [[User:OckhamTheFox|OckhamTheFox]] 15:54, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
:Honestly, the disk space is not so important as the time. It takes work to translate a page. If you have to upload all of the images in it as well, that is more work. I would like to avoid that work for most images. People still need to register to use the image pool (but we would like to make it be just one registration for all WikiFur in the near future). If there is any interface text that needs to be changed on the pool wiki to help Russian contributors, I would be glad to do so. Images can still be uploaded locally by going directly to Special:Upload.
:The problem with ВикиФур: is that ВикиФур was not the name of the project namespace. WikiFur was, because that was the site name, and by default the site name is the name of the project namespace. I have changed the name of the site to ВикиФур and adjusted the database so that the pages already created are in the project namespace rather than the main namespace. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 18:18, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

== Google Analytics ==

I would have Google Analytics in my wikia wiki ([[:w:c:ilercavonia|Ilercavònia]]), what can I do? Can you help me, please??? Thank you very much! [[Usuari:Ebrenc| → ebrenc]] 10:51, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
:The thing to do is probably to ask community@wikia.com to enable the additional Analytics account for the wiki. You should set up an Analytics account and tell them the user ID that needs to be used, and the wiki that it is to be on. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 14:33, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

== Article deletion ==

I was wondering if you could delete [[User:Nekonaru Letao]] and [[Nekonaru Letao]]. I don't really want/need them anymore, and I'm trying to cut down the amount of information about me. If I just edit it out, it can be found in previous versions, but if it's deleted, then it's a bit harder to find.

[[User:Nekonaru Letao|Nekonaru Letao]] 18:27, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
:I can help you with this. Your User page is your area so it can be handled how you like. Your article can be handled under the [[WikiFur:PE|personal exclusion]] policy. If you change your mind, or a lesser exclusion would be acceptable(for instance, excluding the real name only), let any admin know. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 18:33, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

== People blanking own articles - explanation template? ==

Hey there GreenReaper,

I just wanted to ask one thing: I think we all know that many people often just blank their own articles, either not knowing or not caring about exclusions. As far as I know this behavior is not really wanted by anyone of us, thus my question here: As those people have to be told about the possibility of an exclusion after they blanked their article without knowing, it is always somehow necessary to tell them, explain and direct them to the correct pages. so, is there maybe any template containing this informations, that could just be added to a user's talkpage AFTER they tried blanking their own article? This would make explaining easier and much faster I guess.
I think that'd be a nice idea, just as a suggestion of mine. Have a nice day, greetings, [[User:RealZero|RealZero]] 07:16, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

:I don't think there is one at this time. You're welcome to start one, and add it to [[WikiFur:Templates]]! Just remember, it can be a good idea to personalize the information and often it's better to try and follow up with them directly rather than leaving a note on their talk page. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 07:23, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

== Finding all pages linking to an article ==

Hey there, just another question from me. I know that, of course, it's important to change all links if you moved an article to a new name so everything keeps working fine. Thus my question: Is is somehow possible to see all pages linking to a specific article, like it is shown at uploaded pictures? Or which way can this be handled otherwise, as I think just searching for the corresponding word in the article search is not working very well. Thanks for your answer in advance. Greetings, [[User:RealZero|RealZero]] 11:36, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
:Hi, RealZero. The toolbox on the left side of the page should have What links here. It leads to http://furry.wikia.com/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/User_talk:GreenReaper and should work for any page--just put that page name after the final slash. -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 18:52, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

::Ahh, stupid me proved his blindness again I guess. Thanks very much for the answer *bows*. Greetings, [[User:RealZero|RealZero]] 19:39, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

== file-template ==

The german version of the file-upload -page mentions a template named
"Dateiinfo" to be used. That template does not exist and it is strange to find one with a german name here.
Could this be a mistake my owolf, trying to add it to de.furry.wikia.com instead? --[[User:Suran|Suran]] 07:31, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

:It is odd . . . that page was not created by any user, but instead has been set as the default for that message in German on all wikis. In fact, it is incorrect in several ways (for example, it is not just free images that should be uploaded). If you can to translate the [[MediaWiki:Uploadtext|English one]], I would be glad to put that on instead. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 07:37, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

::I added a translation to my talk-page. --[[User:Suran|Suran]] 07:56, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

== ru.wikifur ==
Registered =^.^=
# can I has admeen rollez plz? :))
# interwiki works from ru to en but not the other way?
# how do we transfer images from here to commons? There are quite a few that we need to share. -- [[User:Wesha|Wesha]] 13:24, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
:I also have this question regarding file transfert on WikiFur Commons (how do we name this website, by the way?). Is that possible to keep '''image''' history while transferring? Also, what about '''page''' history, that we have to ''export'' then ''import'' (which requires sysop rights on Commons) to not to violate GFDL license? [[User:Diti|Diti]] ([[User talk:Diti|talk to the penguin]]) 14:14, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
:#Yes, just be careful with them. No running with scissors!
:#<s>It does for now, yes. I will ask. In the worst case, we can fix it up fairly easily with [[metawikipedia:pywikipediabot|pywikipediabot]] at a later date.</s> es: and ru: have now been added on furry.wikia.com. I will be using [[User:ReaperBot]] to apply interwiki links.
:#I recommend using pywikipediabot's [[metawikipedia:imagetransfer.py|imagetransfer.py]] using [http://pool.wikifur.com/wiki/WikiFur:Wikifur-family.py wikifur-family.py]. It adds a digest of page history for GFDL compliance. I have enabled sysop access, though you may create a bot account if you prefer (let me know and I will add it to the bot group).
:Right now, it is called the pool wiki, or the shared image wiki. There has also been a suggestion of calling it the furpile, though I am unsure whether that would work or not. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 14:42, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

==request from RVDDP2501 - name change==

Hey GreenReaper, i'm sorry to bother you but I was wondering if you could change a article name for me, can you change the 'Eve' article - http://furry.wikia.com/wiki/Eve - to 'Eve Mahn' - http://www.furaffinity.net/view/1635852/ - I'll be updating the picture shortly, thank you :) - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 12:08, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

:Sure, done. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 12:18, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

::Thank you :) - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 12:19, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

== Polish wikifur ==

Simple question. What i have to do to lunch a polish version of wikifur?

:''Handled in chat. For anyone else interested in starting a new language, just grab me in #wikifur or otherwise get in contact and we can sort it out.'' --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 22:27, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

В моей стране, вы будете здесь, чтобы сделать этот сайт [[Special:Contributions/94.117.88.218|94.117.88.218]] 21:41, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

:Well, we already have a [[:ru:|Russian WikiFur]]. Fortunately there are people who live there who are helping to make it. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 21:46, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

== /index.php? ==

Thanks for spotting that redirect problem - you're right that fullurl should have been used, but I've also fixed our .htaccess files so it shouldn't happen again. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 02:39, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
:Of course, that won't be necessary when the move is complete - in fact I think it will have to be undone then. So was it really necessary? --[[User:Fibonacci|Fibonacci]] 03:54, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
::Maybe not, but I said it would work before and after the move, and I like to keep my promises about such things. Plus, it only took a few minutes. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 08:46, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

== Inserted redirects to templates instead of regular template. ==

Hey there GreenReaper,
I have a question regarding templates in articles: 
Many articles, like for example [[Gathering of the Gargoyles]] have some kind of redirect-text to a template in them, in this case for the inappropriate template, instead of the actual template "image". Is this some kind of error and should be changed if one comes across them, or does this actually has some kind of sense? Thanks in advance for your answer, I hope I haven't missed anything obvious again. Greetings, [[User:RealZero|RealZero]] 15:53, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

:{{tl|Appropriate}} was moved to {{tl|Inappropriate}} without changing the template pages which redirected to {{tl|Appropriate}} as well. Templates only follow redirects once. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 21:45, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

== [[:es:Central WikiFur|Central WikiFur]] ==

There are almost [[:es:Special:Longpages|150 articles]] on the wiki right now - are any of them good enough to show or link on the front page? You could look at how the other wikis have done it; there are many ways. [[:es:Usuario:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]] 09:50 9 nov 2008 (UTC)

:I'm working on the new design of the front page. I'm trying to take the best from the Russian model and apply it to the English model (the fact that I don't know Russian is not stopping me). --[[User:Fibonacci|Fibonacci]] 21:41, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

==?==
Was the cake is a lie the same dude from wikia that was vandalising Charitwo's user page? [[User:GroceryBag|G]][[User Talk:GroceryBag|B]] 21:05, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

:All signs point to yes. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 21:14, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

How about reconsidering me or just flat out removing and getting rid of the entire article about me? I'm sick of being a part of WikiFur, I've told you countless times that I do not want my name on here, please remove me.

--Mozdoc

==SVG==
What version of ImageMagick is installed on the WikiFur servers? I just tried to rasterize http://pool.wikifur.com/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Argentina.svg locally with ImageMagick 6.3.7 and it works like a charm. --[[User:Fibonacci|Fibonacci]] 03:52, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

:Version: ImageMagick 6.4.4 2008-10-21 Q16 http://www.imagemagick.org Copyright: Copyright (C) 1999-2008 ImageMagick Studio LLC. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 11:04, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

::Turns out my local install of ImageMagick was using the rsvg libraries. So that's the reason the conversion worked fine.
::I just tried a locally-compiled version on some flags, and found that most do not render correctly (except very simple ones, such as the [[wikipedia:Commons:Image:Flag of Italy.svg|flag of Italy]]). Should I upload correctly-rendered PNG flags instead of the SVG files? --[[User:Fibonacci|Fibonacci]] 02:35, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

:::Would probably be the easiest solution. Rendered versions can be lifted from Wikipedia's previews. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 02:55, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

== hay ==

what's up

i went to this link: http://furry.wikia.com/wiki/User:GreenReaper

and it gave me this:

"Error 503 Service Unavailable

Service Unavailable
Guru Meditation:

XID: 401948741
Varnish"

;_;

:Yeah, it does that sometimes. Wikia's caching software is still slightly unstable. Try forcing your browser to refresh the page. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 02:31, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

::ok cool thx it works now i can see --entitythatwrotethemessage

== Greeting ==

Hi! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Ddevore|Ddevore]] ([[User talk:Ddevore|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ddevore|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.

:Welcome! :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 00:48, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

== DNP Request ==

Hello Greenreaper, I understand you are in charge of this website. I wish to have my entry (under the alter ego "BullGator") deleted, locked and added to your site's "DNP" equivalent due to a pair of trolls who are continuing to vandalise the entry. As my involvement in the furry community has now evolved to virtual zero and I have no interest in childish edit wars, I look forward to instructions as to how a DNP request is to be formally undertaken.
[[User:BullGator|BullGator]] 09:22, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

:I have posted the exclusion request on the talk page, and will perform the exclusion proper within 24 hours unless further debate arises. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 01:49, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

== Automatic spam filter blocking edit ==

Hey there Green Reaper, 
I wanted to edit the article [[Furry Hosting]] and change the links at the bottom so that they actually link to the website. The problem here is, that the wiki's automated spam filter blocks the given URL. Could you somehow link the links or tell me what to do about this? Thanks in advance, greetings [[User:RealZero|RealZero]] 22:44, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

:I've added it to [[MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist|the whitelist]] and edited the page. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 22:51, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

== Featured picture ==

Darn you Reaper! I was just editing that! Now I know what it feels like to be you! {{:User:Robomilk/sig}} 01:21, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

== Dill Eat my page ==

Hello. I am Hamsterchan. Or hamster...or thegreathamster...or Sabbath Da Frog....I would really appreciate if you could delete "Sabbath Da Frog"'s page, please. Its no longer desired. Any other links I made to my comics needs to go, too. I'm sure you need the bandwidth. Thank you. -[[User:Hamsterchan|Hamsterchan]]

:''Responded in email''. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 08:52, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

== Frida Åhman Article ==

Greetings. I tried to remove my article, as I no longer wish to be on this site, but it got reverted. Could you please exculde me? I haven't been active in the fandom for a very long time, and probably won't be any time soon. [[User:Gnistra|Gnistra]] 12:35, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
:Done, much belatedly. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 19:06, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

==Happy Holidays!==
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! [[User:Fangusu|Fangusu]] 15:00, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

== Pool not working? ==

See my change: [[Love_Can_Be_Different]]. Worked in RU but not here... -- [[User:Wesha|Wesha]] 00:30, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

:That is because the pool is not used by Wikia-hosted wikis. You must upload the image here as well. This limitation will only be removed once migration has been completed. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 03:14, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

:: Also, stuff from Wikicommons does properly show on Pool, but not on RU? -- [[User:Wesha|Wesha]] 15:25, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

:::Not really sure where you got that idea. It shouldn't show up anywhere, because we're not linked to Wikimedia Commons. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 05:16, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

:::: Oh I got it. Somebody helpfully uploaded Image:Red copyright.svg from commons to here... I was wondering because my [[:Template:Message box]] designs from wiki* started working here magically... But! The main question was: why copyright image shows on http://pool.wikifur.com/wiki/Image:Simba_pic.jpg and not on http://ru.wikifur.com/wiki/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%BE%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5:Simba_pic.jpg ? The image is in the pool, so it puzzles me... -- [[User:Wesha|Wesha]] 15:43, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

::::: Well, it does show up for me. :-) Maybe you need to force a refresh/clear cache? --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 15:50, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

:::::: Again, you sure the '''red ©''' shows in the message box on http://ru.wikifur.com/wiki/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%BE%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5:Simba_pic.jpg ? Doesn't for me, and I tried it in IE and it turns out it tries to get http://ru.wikifur.com/w/images/thumb/1/1d/Red_copyright.svg/60px-Red_copyright.svg'''.png''' -- which is weird... -- [[User:Wesha|Wesha]] 15:56, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

::::::: Ah, I see what you mean. No, it is not visible, the template is pointing to a local URL (that's the thumbnail for the image). Looks like a MediaWiki bug. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 16:04, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

:::::::: So can you please investigate? I believe it works on wikipedia cluster. -- [[User:Wesha|Wesha]] 16:29, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

== Message From RVDDP2501 - Extinctioners protection ==

Hey GreenReaper, I'm sorry if this may seem overboard but I was wondering if it would be possible to try and protect the Extinctioners wiki article as I have just learned in recent hours that everything extinctioners as been 'attacked' by a hacker(s), everything from Yahoo groups being deleated to Shawntae Howard's own FA & DA acounts being wiped clean. I hope I don;t come across as acting paranoid but from the looks of things, it seems some one is gunning for Extinctioners and the wiki article could be a target, you can read the report/forum on FA here - http://forums.furaffinity.net/showthread.php?t=35514 - Please let me know what you feel should be done, thank you and take care - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 19:39, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
:Ah ok I see, thanks, I guess I was a little worried that if someone could hack their way into FA, DA and the yahoo groups and mess around to the extent they did, they could do something permanent here as well, I guess I was a little jumpy, thanks again and take care - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 21:58, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

== Help with image ==

Hi there,

I uploaded a few images of my fursuits, but didn't realize under after I'd done it that "rat.jpg" and "panther.jpg" was far too general a file name - is there any way to change the names? Or, is there any way to delete these files so I can re-upload them with more appropriate names?

Also, I hope this is where I'm supposed to ask this, I'm not very wiki-savvy.

Thanks,
--[[User:Wggthegnoll|Wgg the Gnoll]] 18:37, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

:Sure, I've deleted those for you. There's no way to move images at this time, although I understand that functionality is being developed. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 20:10, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

== Webring ==

Hi,

Please advise why you dumped my Webring code. I put it back, because I thought it was a great idea to have the Hyper Police page in the Hyper Police Ring. I didn't even know that this place existed until I did a Hyper Police search and I am sure that there are lots of others that don't know about it either, so a Webring is a great way to bring more traffic here. I hope you will let me keep it here. Also, I have seen other Webrings on here.

Thank you,

--[[User:Noriko Mori|Noriko Mori]] 03:58, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

:A webring is not useful for a wiki article on a topic because it is basically a replacement for a set of links. These links should instead be placed in the article's external links section of the article if they are of sufficient relevance and contain useful information, and not linked at all if they are not.

:Webrings were great for finding relevant sites ten years ago. They're pretty much redundant with search, now. If you find one on here, you are welcome to replace it with specific links to useful websites on the ring. We're not interested in being part of any. If websites find us useful, they're welcome to link directly if they wish.

:We do cover them at [[:Category:Web rings]], but only because the more long-running webrings have become valid encyclopedic topics by themselves. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 04:13, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Hi,

Thank you for your reply.

I have been involved with Webring ever since its inception and I find it quite insulting of you to put down all my hard work with them like that. I run some 40 rings, myself and have lots of friends there. I feel very sad that you don't welcome us here...

--[[User:Noriko Mori|Noriko Mori]] 04:23, 11 March 2009 (UTC)Noriko

:I'm sorry, but it is my honest opinion. We're here to provide information. A webring that you just created provides no additional value over direct links to the relevant sites. It is therefore redundant and so was removed from the article.

:I also feel it is inappropriate for us to be part of webrings that relate to our article content, as it implicitly promotes a particular group of websites related to that topic. We do not participate in link exchanges or banner trading either. The links we provide are based solely on the quality of the sites' content, and are not for sale or exchange. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 05:32, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

== RL name linked against noted wishes ==

Sebkha apparently put my truename on and it redirects to Zjonni. The notes on Zjonni expressly say I don't want that, but it appears this was done a month before the do-not-want note and not caught when I put the note up. I can edit the redirect page, but cannot apparently, erase it. Can you kindly make it go away?

Thanks!

Feel free to mail me if you aren't sure which page I am talking about.

Zjonni

2007-02-27T04:51:35Z

Zjonni:

'''Zjonni''' has been active in [[furry fandom]] since the mid 1980s, and was one of the people responsible for ensuring that [[Confurence 0]] happened when there was talk from primary sponsors about giving up on the idea.

Zjonni's best known works are the illustrations of [[Revar Desmera]] the vampire bat in [[Watts Martin]]'s short story ''[[A Gift of Fire, a Gift of Blood]]'' and the sequel, ''[[The Lighthouse]]'', both of which ran in ''[[Yarf!]]''. In addition to his ''Yarf!'' work, he was a member of ''[[Rowrbrazzle]]'' for a time and was also published in the original ''[[Furversion]]'', [[Charles P. A. Melville]]'s ''[[The Furkindred]]'', ''[[Mythagoras]]'' and [[Bill Fitts]]' [[fanzine]] ''[[Fuzzy Nips]]'', among other places.

Zjonni edited and published a fanzine called ''[[Steam Victorian]]'', and illustrated an episode of ''[[Associated Student Bodies]]'' and an episode of ''[[Empires]]''. He occasionally attends [[convention]]s, but has rarely produced any [[furry art|artwork]] for public consumption since around 2000.

== External links ==
{{Contributor}}
* [http://www.furnation.com/Zjonni/ Coming soon..Bride of the Volcano God!] - homepage at [[FurNation]]
* [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/Zjonni/ Zjonni] at [[Fur Affinity]] (Artist's note: This is the only active account.)
* [http://www.fanarchive.net/Artists/Zjonni/ Zjonni] at the [[Orlando Furry Archives]]
* [http://us.vclart.net/vcl/Artists/Zjonni/ Zjonni] at [[VCL]]

[[Category:People]][[Category:Artists]]

User talk:Spirou

2006-08-08T18:45:29Z

Zjonni: That was dang sloppy of me...

If you want to do a signature with the time, just type <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end. It's a lot easier than figuring out the pacific time. If it's doing that when you sign like that, then check your preferences, but I think it automatically uses UTC . . . --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 14:06, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for the info,... let me try [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 16:39, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Well, what do you know, it worked [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 16:39, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Titles with lower cases==

Let me see if I read it right. Wikifur entries ---must--- always start with an uppercase letter (I.e nothinkat->Nothinkat,) but, if an entry is known to start with an lower case letter (I.e. any of Usenets alt. groups,) I must enter the article with an upper case (I.e Alt.fan.furry,) but inser the caveat paragraph "The title of this article is incorrect due to technical limitations. The correct title is alt.fan.furry." before the opening paragraph of the article. --[[User:Spirou|Spirou]] [[User:63.204.227.202|63.204.227.202]] 20:08, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Yes. The correct method is to use this template at the top: <nowiki>{{wrongtitle|title=the correct title}}</nowiki> and it will insert the correct text. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 20:40, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==SOF vs TBOF==

Question: why was [[SOF]] (Save our fandom) deleted?. [[SOF]] predates Richard Chandler's [[TBOF]] by almost a year, and I had already finished the [[TBOF]] article, along with the [[The Anthro Movement]] and Chuck Melville funny animal manifesto entries. Even though TBOF and PVF ran parallel to each other since their conceptions, SOF was definitely the first group furry protohate to appear in the furry scene way ahead of either these groups. SOF was definitely '''not''' Chandler's [[TBOF]].

Is there anything that can be done to correct/ammend this?. [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 05:48, 9 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Before I deleted it, the content of SOF matched exactly that of TBOF. Based upon the edits that were being made, it appeared that the editor wanted to move the content of SOF over to TBOF and wasn't aware of the page rename command. You are welcome to request a restore of the earlier version of the article which I can see is slightly different, as long as you can change it further so there is not redundent information. --[[User:Nidonocu|Nidonocu]] - [[User talk:Nidonocu|talk]] [[Image:Trans 168.png|16px|Nidonocu]] 05:55, 9 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::I've restored the version subsequent to NPOV copyediting but prior to replacement by the anonymous user. Suggest you proceed from there. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 06:01, 9 Sep 2005 (UTC)

==Technical Question==
How does one go about adding a comment next to an entry in the "Recent Changes" page?:

! 18:29 Template:WikiFur Central/Wanted (diff; hist) . . GreenReaper (Talk) (add purrsia and ColoFurs) <-Example

Thanks in advance. [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 03:13, 10 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:That is contents of the Summary box, just above the Save page button). --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 03:17, 10 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Doh! >.< Thanks, [[GreenReaper]] =) [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 03:51, 10 Sep 2005 (UTC)

==Okaaay,...==
Time to take some time off from the project. I feel I overstep my bounds on this, and, regarding the message I just got from FM (No, no, from a friend,) I may have just opened the Texas size, xtra large can of works here,... and my Kevlar flak vest still on the dryer, too. =(

Will try back (much) later, Chaps. [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 06:45, 14 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:I'll place the 'away' user template on both here and you user page. Don't forget to take them off when you get back. :) --[[User:Nidonocu|Nidonocu]] - [[User talk:Nidonocu|talk]] [[Image:Trans 168.png|16px|Nidonocu]] 07:05, 14 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Thank you =) [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 07:06, 14 Sep 2005 (UTC)

==Vacation over==
Well, back to woik,... [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 03:57, 17 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:Uh, could I have my account, like, totally be reactivated and stuff? ^-^ [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 02:44, 21 Sep 2005 (EDT)
::You just need to take away the template text at the top of them. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 03:12, 21 Sep 2005 (EDT)
:::Ah. I thought (wrongly) that was a "Sysop's only" action. Thanks =) [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 03:18, 21 Sep 2005 (EDT)

==AWFR==
Hmm, it would appear that someone disagrees rather vehemently with the terms you listed in the [[AWFR]] article (looking through the history, I believe it was you that put those in). Any comment on the validity of the edits, or is it someone trying to rewrite history in their own way? One way or another, it's going to need to be changed, but to my mind the question is whether to word it such that the terms are in dispute or just delete them entirely.--[[User:DuncanDaHusky|Duncan da Husky]] 15:11, 21 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== WikiFur Furry Central and Safari ==

Okay, I give up,... I tried to find the template to change the "WikiFur Furry Central" font size problem with Mac's Safari, but it seems the procedure is just beyond my grasp, so,... I need an Admins help, please, on the matter. Thx [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 00:52, 7 Nov 2005 (UTC)

:You mean [[Template:WikiFur Central/Header]]? As [[Template talk:WikiFur Central/Header|I said]], I put a copy of it on the [[WikiFur:Sandbox|Sandbox]] - feel free to modify it there to make it look good! If you can find a way to make it not look any different (or at least not any wider) on other systems, that would be cool too. Or you could get firefox like our latest news item suggests. ;-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 06:20, 7 Nov 2005 (UTC)

:Actually, let's just make it 9pt. It's not worth the hassle, and it ''is'' more readable that way. I'm sure something can be removed from each row. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 06:21, 7 Nov 2005 (UTC)

::Thanks. [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 07:01, 7 Nov 2005 (UTC)

== Question on entry's title ==

Can a new entry's title have an (!) point on it, say, [[Burn the Chair!]], and speaking of this entry, can we post the '''censored''' version of the.... "event," or is that going way beyond what is humanly tolerable?. [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 02:19, 8 Nov 2005 (UTC)

:It can if it's the proper name for it, which appears to be the case. And no, unless you have copyright to the picture, please do not post it on here. We've had enough sites posting images without the consent of the creator for one week. :-) You're perfectly free to link to a page containing it, though. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 02:59, 8 Nov 2005 (UTC)

::"And no, unless you have copyright to the picture,..." Steve martin owns it (Well, describe owning THAT.) The camera that took it was an Apple iSight webcam, which was rendered "unusable" by a very large sledgehammer. The chair was located on his secondary Computer room, and promptly wheeled out, and a "free sign" slapped to it. It was gone next morning

::Doug Winger wanted to torch it (for real,) as for the... "photo," Martin just responded by saying that people can make murals out of, for what he caresa bout it. No, I was more worry about the effect it may cause people viewing it. [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 05:07, 8 Nov 2005 (UTC)

:::Ah, well [[WikiFur:What WikiFur is not#WikiFur is not censored for the protection of minors|WikiFur is not censored for the protection of minors]], so . . . --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 05:09, 8 Nov 2005 (UTC)

::::Otay =) [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 05:11, 8 Nov 2005 (UTC)

== disambiguation page ==

How does one go about creating one? ("Doot".) [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 09:33, 12 Nov 2005 (UTC)

:put {{.disambig}} somewhere in it? Which one do you want to create? [[User:Unci|Unci]] 09:58, 12 Nov 2005 (UTC)

::An entry for '''Doot'''. I need to know the steps to do so. [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 20:29, 13 Nov 2005 (UTC)

:::Go to [[Doot]]. Since it exists, move the current page (with the move tab, not cut and paste) to a new place, like Doot (sound). Go back to the old page, edit it to remove the redirect that was automatically made, and write some stuff to replace it, including links to each of the alternative topic pages. Put <nowiki>{{disambig}}</nowiki> at the bottom. That's about it. See [[Furry home]] for the sort of layout to use. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 20:41, 13 Nov 2005 (UTC)

== Going on "Light mode" (And a Happy US Thanksgiving!.) ==

Getting ready for a Thanksgiving trip, that's why I haven't posted as much as before. Will still check, and do minor edit,... As for our US contributors, I hope everybody have a safe and Happy Thanksgiving! ^-^ [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 08:12, 17 Nov 2005 (UTC)

:Have a good time! --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 15:57, 17 Nov 2005 (UTC)

== [[Chat on the Internet]] ==

If you are going to [http://furry.wikicities.com/index.php?title=Chat_on_the_Internet&diff=0&oldid=27138 revert an edit], please give a reason on the edit summary or the [[Talk:Chat on the Internet|talk page]], as it is otherwise unclear what your intentions and reasoning is. It's usually better to rewrite the portions which you disagree with rather than reverting, as then extra information that you might not disagree with (or which are simply additional facts) is lost. For example, "and more recently an online messageboard as well" seems like an objective statement of fact that should have been included in future versions.

It might also be a good idea to drop by [[Talk:Gayfaggotinc]], as your assertion that CotI is anti-furry (which does seem to be implied by the lead section of [[Gayfaggotinc]]) has been challenged. Any evidence you have to back up your assertions would be good. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 02:27, 16 Jan 2006 (UTC)

== 3000+ ==

Well, that was kind of an anticlimactic milestone =) [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 19:36, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

:Hey, I spruced up the front page for it! --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 19:41, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

== thecat88 ==

Well, that was fun. Three admins at once slapped him into a puddle of goo. :) -- [[User:Siege|Siege]]([[User talk:Siege|talk]]) 06:41, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
*Nice exercise before going to bed ^-^ [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 06:42, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

::The vandals cannot stand before admins with usernames that begin with S! -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 06:43, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

:::And all starting with an 'S'. And a 4th user helping, with an S. ^_^ [[User:Splarka|Splarka]] 06:45, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

::::^-^ [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 06:49, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

:::::Crap, sorry about that (deleting your comments). Something not working right with the edit conflicts, sometimes they don't trigger properly!. [[User:Splarka|Splarka]] 06:53, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
::::::I agree. That was rather amusing to sere the initial line of a vandal being turned into a puddle of goo. And the mass of messy redirects and vandalized pages all cleaned up in a hurry. This user's IP range can be blocked more broadly though. A range block is suggested. ----[[User:Markus|Markus]]([[User talk:Markus|talk]]) 06:55, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

:::::::The (visible) IP's used: 71.197.219.98, 65.6.212.189, 24.26.247.246, 204.8.12.232 are most likely proxies, and they have nothing in common that can be rangeblocked. [[User:Splarka|Splarka]] 06:58, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Well, then that means this vandal is exploiting open proxies or has multiple people helping. If open proxy, the server should be blocking them by default. But if multiple-user help, then that is somehting entirely different.. ----[[User:Markus|Markus]]([[User talk:Markus|talk]]) 07:01, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::In a perfect would, it would block them automagically, but a wiki server can't completely portscan every IP on every edit, sadly. [[User:Splarka|Splarka]] 07:08, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::TheCat88's IP isn't related to any of these; a proxy scan says it's not open. [[User:Mindspillage|Mindspillage]] [[User talk:Mindspillage|(spill yours?)]] 07:07, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
No, no, Splarka, don't worry,... that was '''my''' fault. Deleted the wrong space on the wrong line <=/ [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 06:59, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

:I think it was [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Spirou&diff=52694&oldid=52693 my fault] (that was my edit). As for the rollback: I just opened his contribs and rolled them all back, not noticing he'd done multiple edits to your page, oops ^_^. Still, easy to revert. hah. [[User:Splarka|Splarka]] 07:05, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

== The Flood (Better Admin communication system?) ==

Hmm, there needs to be a better way to get hold of an Admin for the next one. None of the messages I sent during the first minutes of this latest defacement garnered a response, and, after a while, I was just too overwhelmed to continue contacting somebody,... =/ [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 00:21, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

:What would you suggest? Maybe a template to be thrown up at need? Unfortunately, there may simply be times when there don't happen to be any admins online; I came back home and dived in when I saw what was going on. Thanks for bailing away at the flood as you did! -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 02:52, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

::I bailed at the flood too. There was mroe than one person grabbing the rope and pulling to stop the tide of vandals. But in responce, there are instant messaging systems. And the IRC room. When the flood hit, I noticed that GR was already at work trying to clean it up and asked JasonR to block non-admin edits for a short time. This helped the cleanup considerably. ----[[User:Markus|Markus]]([[User talk:Markus|talk]]) 04:15, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

:I've posted my IM contact on my User page. If you message me and I'm around, I'll bail at it too. But for serious stuff, someone will still need to contact Wikia staff. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 04:28, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

::Yes. The "report a problem" link at the bottom left will take you to the appropriate chat. One or more of JasonR, Angela, mindspillage or sannse is usually around. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 04:59, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

:::I was trying to use the "Contact an Administrator" on the "Help<--*read*" page. I doesn't list all the contact information for all the administrators (Rat's IM, for example, is not listed there,) and, it would help if they were html formated to launch the appropriate helper app, instead of "cut 'n paste" the information over. I tried e-mail, but I forgot to get my email "verified" for use (doh). [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 05:23, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

==[[Noitaroproc]]==
:Spirou stop editing my page, please. You are putting blatantly false information on it. Do it again and I WILL report you to the admins for vandalism.

*There is the initial stub entry I started on you from a link from another article.
*An edit to a version by Dmuth
*...And a revert to an edit were you were being called a Troll,...

Original entry:
"Noitaroproc is a Nonfur who was one of many member of the IRC version of Gayfaggotinc."

Your correction:
"Noitaroproc was one of many members of the IRC and LiveJournal versions of Gayfaggotinc. He is also an artist on FurAffinity."

Differences: "is a Nonfur". If you feel this statement is grounds of vandalism, please refer the matter to a Wikifur Admin for resolution. Apologies if entering this data on your entry may have offended you.

:Spirou, you have done some great work on WikiFur. However, [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Noitaroproc&diff=prev&oldid=54850 this edit] was inappropriate, both in terms of the actual edit and for its misleading edit summary. I wouldn't normally comment, but you have done this [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Noitaroproc&diff=41744&oldid=41738 twice] [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Noitaroproc&diff=45245&oldid=45210 before], this last case being the only one in which I think it would have been appropriate. Maybe you felt you had good reasons, but these edits are not "-POV", nor are they "minor edits". They appear to be trying to exclude the edits of other people.

:Asserting that someone is a [[nonfur]] when they say that they are not appears to be a contradiction in terms, as the very definition of it requires someone to state that they are not a member of the fandom. Noitaroproc has made his position clear with the recent edit so there should be no question over that. Similarly, reverting to a previous version that lacks information present in a previous version (e.g. the existance of and link to FurAffinity galleries, the note about LiveJournal) is not good. It suggests that your prime concern was to restore your favoured version rather than to work with all other contributors to make the best and most informative article possible.

:If you do make changes that have the effect of reverting anyting but a trivial vandalism (blanking, garbage, base insults) to ''any'' article, please make an effort to examine the article beforehand and include all valid information that has been added along with the assertions that you disagree with. It may be easier to do this if you edit the existing article rather than going back to a previous version and editing that. Understand that [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Neutral point of view|NPOV]] typically means including other people's viewpoints, even if you do disagree with them. :-)

:Your [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Noitaroproc&diff=prev&oldid=57739 recent edit] was fine, although I did [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Noitaroproc&curid=7317&diff=57748&oldid=57739 tweak it] - it is better to end the external link before the internal link to the art archive's article, otherwise you get a mixed external/internal link which looks odd. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 08:23, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

::While looking information on the individual to make sure the entry was correct, the person in question has stated twice publicly in the past to be an "nonfur" (Actually, also a "non-furtard", and a few other choice "non-X" word combos,) mainly on IRC (you can ask the gentleman directly.) I don't label anybody in any category, unless his/her position is clear in the matter.

::As you can see in some of other of my "People" entries, I have left their relation to the Fandom ("Fur,"Non-Fur", etc,...) ambiguous, as I was not able to find their position regarding such anywhere. I do not "favor" any of my entries over real data, and if during a revert I may have deleted valid data, that's an oversight on my part, not my intent to steamroll my views thru.

::"Similarly, reverting to a previous version that lacks information present in a previous version (e.g. the existance of and link to FurAffinity galleries, the note about LiveJournal) is not good." Uh, I actually haven't done that, Greenreaper. I actually did the opposite (Include that information back in.) [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 16:55, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

:Just an additional note that may or may not apply: For my own part, I have found that, when dealing with entries by or about people with whom I do not necessarily see eye-to-eye with, I opt to to "recuse myself", that is, let someone else deal with the edits. That way I can be 100% sure that any feelings I may have about the matter or the person don't influence the entry. WikiFur has enough administrators that the issue will usually be dealt with fairly quickly (and if not, having a day or two to cool off and think things over is never bad, either :-) ----[[User:DuncanDaHusky|DuncanDaHusky]]([[User talk:DuncanDaHusky|talk]]) 12:06, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

::I don't know the person, or have feelings or agendas involving him or the article. It's just an Wikifur entry [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 16:55, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
:::But I perfectly understand your point in the matter =) [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 17:06, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

== Evolving the personal exclusion system ==

I'd be interested in your thoughts at [[Template talk:Protected-Excluded]] regarding how we could make it easy for people to find public information while keeping the personal information personal. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 06:54, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

:Oh, they themselves are the best tools to achieve this (the Templates,)... except they do not protect any personal information whatsoever. I already discussed with several people that putting a entry behind a [[Template talk:Protected-Excluded]] is like painting a huge bulls-eye, daring people to find elsewhere what "exactly" is the person afraid off and/or hiding.

:In others words, inside exposition of protected data (a sanitized, open entry,) is the same as a protected entry, except that the second is more tantalizing, takes longer to retrieve all the data, but completely defeats its purpose "Protecting-Excluding" any and all private matter. I don't see anything we could do that wouldn't, ultimately, end up by doing the same thing, and sending someone seeking the protected data from the secured confines of Wikifur out to the wide open world wide web, and thus, finding the same unfettered data.

:So, we are between a rock and a hard place on this matter, and the trick is really to decide on the lesser of two evils,... aaand, I don't see or have a solution that would make everybody happy right now, GreenReaper [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 08:10, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

== The "Furry Concentration Camp" ==

"(I) assume you meant "if deemed""... Doh!. Yes, indeed. Thanks =) [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 08:14, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

== Thanks for the rewrite ==

Thank you for rewriting the [[furluminati]] article... it was in need of much work. :) -- [[User:DeVandalizer|DeVandalizer]] 16:48, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

== reference ==

well i do have a copy of the discussion about it >>

== Stamps idea ==

Regarding your stamps idea, I know that Anthrocon spends quite a bit on postage every year, seeing that we mail out many pre-registrations. We ''might'' be interested in purchasing such stamps. --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 06:08, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

:Roughly , how many pre-regs do you mail out, and, at what price? (I'm checking pricing, specially in bulk.) The test sample from Zazzle.com should take about a week to arrive,... Looks like a simple way to reach a large group of people quickly, but I would need to get an a-ok from GreenReaper before using the logo on a real run (or, maybe a new logo could be deigned for the stamp. Will check the size requirements for the stamp services.)

:Next will be photo.stamps.com. Will see about a test sample, quality, and bulk pricing [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 19:04, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

:: At least 1,000 pre-regs each year. Each envelope is normal first class postage.
:: I should mention, though, that we are taking a look at some other ideas for postage, so we might end up not using stamps for too far into the future anyway. I'll keep you posted. --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 19:17, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

::I should mention that I've thought about doing something similar for MFF's registration confirmation postcards, using artwork from one of our Guests of Honor. Since we're only getting 500 or so pre-registrations, I'm not sure it's cost-effective for us just yet. ----[[User:DuncanDaHusky|DuncanDaHusky]]([[User talk:DuncanDaHusky|talk]]) 20:26, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

I was just doing a quick check to see if my non-fan-name had gotten posted (a-bloody-gain), and saw the Six Shallow Graves page.

I am afraid I don't know who you are (other than an apparently somewhat diligent wiki-editing person), and don't recall who was present at that conversation, but I believe I was the originator of the phrase you're attributing to Dave. It certainly smacks more of my sometimes ruthless repartee than Dave's generally more optimistic outlook. I'll check with him...Memory is a strange thing, and that talk was over a decade ago.

I'm rather amused now to read that it blew up into something that big. Chandler's tirade really is symptomatic of it, as the idea covers him, too. Everyone has their own ideas of who is 'ruining' the fandom. The remark initially was more global (and I contend that it remains more global than the fandom). While fans (vide 'fanatic') are more apt to take affront over minor and petty social differences (or are they? Visit any high school, college, or retirement home) the idea was that everyone thinks they could improve their social circle by weeding out some of the people who disagree with them and 'ruin' their fun.

Weird, the things that people remember and that become focuses of attention.

I'll also note that the discussion Dave and I had, as I recollect, wasn't an approbation of or a support of the SOF idea. We were simply discussing the way various people in the fandom were behaving. Linking our names into the TSOF thread as originators of the phrase without putting it in perspective could lead us to be viewed as 'supporters' or 'originators' of the movement, rather than people who came up with a phrase that someone else later used to head up an article.

== That was dang sloppy of me... ==

The above two comments are from myself, Zjonni, and are re: the TBOF attribution.

User talk:Spirou

2006-08-08T18:31:47Z

Zjonni:

User talk:Spirou

2006-08-08T18:26:15Z

Zjonni:

Zjonni

2006-08-08T18:10:22Z

Zjonni: Added a note that the furaff account was the only one I keep active.

'''Zjonni''' has been active in [[furry fandom]] since the mid 1980s, and was one of the people responsible for ensuring that [[Confurence 0]] happened when there was talk from primary sponsors about giving up on the idea.

Zjonni's best known works are the illustrations of [[Revar]] the vampire bat in [[Watts Martin]]'s short story ''[[A Gift of Fire, a Gift of Blood]]'' and the sequel, ''[[The Lighthouse]]'', both of which ran in ''[[Yarf!]]''. In addition to his ''Yarf!'' work, he was a member of ''[[Rowrbrazzle]]'' for a time and was also published in the original ''[[Furversion]]'', [[Charles P. A. Melville]]'s ''[[The Furkindred]]'', ''[[Mythagoras]]'' and [[Bill Fitts]]' [[fanzine]] ''[[Fuzzy Nips]]'', among other places.

Zjonni edited and published a fanzine called ''[[Steam Victorian]]'', and did a story for ''[[Associated Student Bodies]]''. He occasionally attends [[convention]]s, but has rarely produced any [[furry art|artwork]] for public consumption since around 2000.

== External links ==

* [http://www.furnation.com/Zjonni/ Coming soon..Bride of the Volcano God!] - homepage at [[FurNation]]
* [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/Zjonni/ Zjonni] at [[Fur Affinity]] (Artist's note: This is the only active account.)
* [http://www.fanarchive.net/Artists/Zjonni/ Zjonni] at the [[Orlando Furry Archives]]
* [http://us.vclart.net/vcl/Artists/Zjonni/ Zjonni] at [[VCL]]

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Zjonni

2006-08-08T18:09:13Z

Zjonni: Fixed incorrect link (Furaff link was pointing at Furnation)

'''Zjonni''' has been active in [[furry fandom]] since the mid 1980s, and was one of the people responsible for ensuring that [[Confurence 0]] happened when there was talk from primary sponsors about giving up on the idea.

Zjonni's best known works are the illustrations of [[Revar]] the vampire bat in [[Watts Martin]]'s short story ''[[A Gift of Fire, a Gift of Blood]]'' and the sequel, ''[[The Lighthouse]]'', both of which ran in ''[[Yarf!]]''. In addition to his ''Yarf!'' work, he was a member of ''[[Rowrbrazzle]]'' for a time and was also published in the original ''[[Furversion]]'', [[Charles P. A. Melville]]'s ''[[The Furkindred]]'', ''[[Mythagoras]]'' and [[Bill Fitts]]' [[fanzine]] ''[[Fuzzy Nips]]'', among other places.

Zjonni edited and published a fanzine called ''[[Steam Victorian]]'', and did a story for ''[[Associated Student Bodies]]''. He occasionally attends [[convention]]s, but has rarely produced any [[furry art|artwork]] for public consumption since around 2000.

== External links ==

* [http://www.furnation.com/Zjonni/ Coming soon..Bride of the Volcano God!] - homepage at [[FurNation]]
* [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/Zjonni/ Zjonni] at [[Fur Affinity]]
* [http://www.fanarchive.net/Artists/Zjonni/ Zjonni] at the [[Orlando Furry Archives]]
* [http://us.vclart.net/vcl/Artists/Zjonni/ Zjonni] at [[VCL]]

[[Category:People]][[Category:Artists]]