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User talk:Zhael

2010-06-01T19:13:49Z

Zhael: Like I said, I'm gone.

User:Zhael

2010-06-01T19:11:51Z

Zhael: I'm gone.

User talk:Zhael

2010-04-19T01:34:25Z

Zhael:

In comment about your work on [[Wolfee Darkfang]], I have seen what you have done and am pleased to see you took a break from things to come back to edit in a neutral status. Sorry about the arguments we had and I hope you can help out the community more. Just remember try to keep out of name calling and the undo tag game. It gets tiring fast. If the page gets undone I will talk with tamias and wolfee about it as I see nothing wrong with the page now. Yet again I am sorry for some of the things I said. I will also see about having some topics removed from the talk as well but even in removal it will always be there though.

--[[User:Arcticfoxslash|Slash V. Lagopus]]

Thank you; I also apologize for what I've done, and I'll try to refrain from this sort of thing in the future. I let my emotions get the best of me, and that is not acceptable.

[[User:Zhael|Zhael]] 16:23, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

heh it happens to us all :D

--[[User:Arcticfoxslash|Slash V. Lagopus]] 16:38, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

==So I see==
You've experienced the full effect of the Wolfee Goon squad. --[[User:Paxilrose|Paxilrose]] 20:10, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Full effect? Sorta pitiful if it's nothing but the editing of his own page. I've seen /i/ do more damage, ya know? [[User:Zhael|Zhael]] 01:34, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Furry Connection North 2010

2010-03-23T13:30:06Z

Zhael: A couple grammatical corrections.

{{Furry Connection North}}
'''Furry Connection North 2010''' is a [[convention]] that will be held from 9 April to 11 April, 2010 at the [http://www.starwoodhotels.com/sheraton/property/overview/index.html?propertyID=2019 Sheraton Detroit Novi] in [[Wikipedia:Novi, Michigan|Novi]], [[Wikipedia:Michigan|Michigan]], U.S.A. The [[guest of honor]] will be [[Mary Minch]], creator of comic series ''[[Mice (comic)|Mice]]'', and [[Erin Middendorf]], who is also known by his fursona, "Dingbat".

The theme for Furry Connection North in 2010 will be "FCN Rocks the '80s".

{{event-stub}}

==External links==
*{{con resources|Furry Connection North|Furry Connection North 2010}}

[[Category:Michigan]]
[[Category:2010 events]]

Charlotte's Web

2010-03-15T05:00:36Z

Zhael: The story focuses on Wilbur, not Charlotte.

'''''Charlotte's Web''''' is a children's book by [[Wikipedia:E. B. White|E. B. White]]. It is about a [[pig]] named '''Wilbur''' and his relationship with a [[spider]] named '''Charlotte'''. According to [http://www.factmonster.com/ipka/A0203050.html|Publisher's Weekly], Charlotte's Web is the best selling children's paperback of all time (through the end of 2000). The book was adapted into an animated movie by [[Hanna-Barbera Productions]] and Sagittarius Productions in 1973. Another live action movie was released in winter of 2006.

== External links ==

*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlotte%27s_Web Wikipedia article]
*[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070016/ IMDB entry for Charlotte's Web (1973)]
*[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0413895/ IMDB entry for Charlotte's Web (2006)]

[[Category:Novels]]
[[Category:Movies]]

Fan art

2010-03-14T04:55:02Z

Zhael: Questionable quote.

'''Fan art''', also known as '''fanart''', is often the [[art]]istic equivalent of [[fan fiction]] and is defined as a work of art that is based on a [[character]], [[fursuit|costume]], item, or story that was created by someone other than the [[artist]]. In furry, this is often applied to [[cartoon]] or [[video game]] characters.

Fan art may be [[erotic]], depicting characters in sexual situations, either contained in the canon universe or with the artist's own [[fursona]], in a kind of [[Wikipedia:Mary Sue|Mary Sue]] artwork in which fan-created characters, often themselves, are inserted into existing universes, often as a love interest for the main character.

It is almost always created for free; artists will rarely include other people's characters in other people's [[commission]]s without their creators' explicit permission, and the use of trademarked characters for profit (which extends to the use of such images to solicit original commissions) has a long history of prosecution.<ref>[http://www.dreslough.com/main/important.htm Notice regarding Dragonriders of Pern] - [[Dee Dreslough]] (25 February 2006)</ref>

==References==
<references />

==External links==
*[http://www.fanart-central.net/ Fanart Central]
*[http://www.fantent.com/ FanTent]
*[http://www.comicbookfanart.com Comic Book Fanart.com]

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[[Category:Art terms]]

[[sv:Fanart]]
[[ru:Фан-арт]]

Alice's Adventures in Wonderland

2010-03-14T04:48:35Z

Zhael: New movie.

'''''Alice's Adventures in Wonderland''''' is a novel written in 1865 by English author Charles Lutwidge Dodgson under the pseudonym [[Wikipedia:Lewis Carroll|Lewis Carroll]]. It tells the story of a girl named Alice who falls down a [[rabbit]]-hole into a fantasy world populated by peculiar and [[anthropomorphic]] creatures.

== Furry Characters ==
* [[White Rabbit]]
* [[Cheshire Cat]]
* [[Bill the Lizard]]
* [[Mock Turtle]]
* [[Gryphon]]
* [[Dormouse]]
* [[March Hare]]

== Adaptations ==
The most well-known adaptation is the 1951 animated Disney film "Alice in Wonderland". Others include:
* "Alice in Wonderland" (1903 silent picture)
* "Fushigi no Kuni no Alice" (''Alice's Fantasy World'', 1983 [[anime]] series)
* "Abby in Wonderland" (2008 [[Sesame Street]] Special, released straight to DVD)
* "Alice in Wonderland" (2010 Live-Action Movie)

[[Category:1865 births]]
[[Category:Novels]]
[[Category:Movies]]

4chan

2010-03-14T04:30:08Z

Zhael: Slang and Minor Corrections

{{Infobox website
| title = 4chan
| image = [[Image:4CHANnewlogo.png|100px]]
| caption =
| author = '''Owners:''' [[moot]]
| url = http://www.4chan.org/
*'''Blog''': http://www.4chan.org/blog/
*'''IRC''': [irc://irc.rizon.net/4chan #4chan] on [[Rizon]]
| status =
| began = 2003
| ended = Ongoing
| genre = Mature image board, critic
| rating = [[Image:Censor_NC17_button.png]]
}}
[[Image:4chan.png|right|thumb|4chan old logo]]
'''4chan''' is a [[Wikipedia:Futaba Channel|2chan]] style art community with English content, founded by former [[Something Awful]] [[goons|goon]] '''moot'''. Visitors submit content in various categories, such as: /h/ for [[Wikipedia:Hentai|Hentai]], /d/ for alternative hentai (subtypes of [[wikipedia:hentai|hentai]] such as [[Wikipedia:Futanari|Futanari]]), /y/ for [[Wikipedia:Yaoi|Yaoi]], /t/ for [[Wikipedia:BitTorrent|torrents]], etc.

Prior to 2005, it also allowed [[Wikipedia:Loli|lolicon]] and [[Wikipedia:Shotacon|shota]]; however, these categories are now restricted to /b/ due to [[Wikipedia:Terms_of_Service|TOS]] violations. In response, [http://not4chan.org/ '''not4chan.org'''] opened their own loli/shota boards to fill in the niche. 4chan also incorporates other categories such as "Papercraft and Origami", "Videogames", "Animals and Nature", "Traditional Games", and "Mecha", as well as many others.<ref>[http://www.4chan.org/faq.php 4chan's FAQ page]</ref>

==4chan and furry==
[[Image:4chanFurryFriday.jpg|thumb|lright|150px|Typical furry friday image macro.]]
For the first year or so of its existence, the majority of people on 4chan looked down upon furries, even [[funny animal]] cartoons, as a nuisance that does not belong on an anime board. A moderator could ban any user who posted furry material, for days or longer.<ref>[http://www.4chan.org/rules.php 4chan's Rules page]</ref>

However, /b/, a random board where anything can be posted within U.S. law (which is almost always ignored), is centered around anonymity and is rebellious against any sort of rules imposed on it from outside. '''Furry Friday''' used to be, and often still is, a regular feature of /b/, as every Friday /b/tards and furries flood the board both with clean and pornography furry media, to the disgust of some other /b/ users (who invariably complain that it is the "wrong day" if furry art is posted on any other day). Images and "[[siterips]]" from furry [[wikipedia:Pay-site|pay-sites]] (such as [[SexyFur]]) are often reposted on Fridays. In early 2008, Fur Friday was officially replaced by F40PH Friday. This sparked a huge protest by the 4chan furry community which to this day has refused to recognized the change.

4chan never welcomes furries and furry art, even on /b/, the only place of this site furry material is allowed, and posting furry material here sometimes leads to a temporary ban. Some members even received a permanent ban for posting furry artwork here.

This is entirely dependent upon the board in question however, as some of the other boards denizens have been know to be more fur friendly than others.

====April Furs Day====

On April 1, 2005, 4chan administrators pulled a stunt called '''April Furs Day'''<ref>[http://tinyurl.com/5dgb6e April Furs Day] at [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]]</ref><ref>[http://www.trendpediawiki.com/April_Furs_Day April Furs Day] at [[Trendpedia]]</ref>, in where a '''/fur/''' board was created, and people were informed that from now on, furry images should go in there instead of /b/. Some users assumed it to be an [[Wikipedia:April Fools' Day|April Fools' Day]] joke, and expected it to be gone the next day<ref>[http://www.crushyiffdestroy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1123 April Furs Day] at [[CYD]]</ref>, while others complained about it in both /b/ and /fur/.

By April 2nd, it remained and people against it tried to flood it with non-furry images, such as [[Wikipedia:EroGuro|EroGuro]] -- the moderators immediately banned those people. Finally, on April 3, the moderators removed the board, and banned every person who had posted in it -- including those who complained about it in the /fur/ board. The banning almost completely eliminated all furry postings for the next several months. This prank was not repeated again in 2006.

====4chan and Fchan====

Months prior to the April Furs Day event, to balance the growing demand for furry art and to provide a place for furry artwork to be posted without risk of removal or banning from an admin (as 4chan's owner proclaimed it was an anime website and would never add any furry or cartoon board), a user named [[Dr. Pon]] found hosting for and founded [[Fchan]], one of the first and most popular furry image-boards.

====4chan and WikiFur====

On several occasions since 4chan began, some members of the /b/ community have organized raids against [[WikiFur]] utilizing the message board as a communications medium. Typical punishment consisted of a forum ban that could last for two weeks or longer, or be permanent, depending on the offense.

Such vandalism is similar to pranks on Wikipedia and other wikis.

==== 4Chan's 100,000,000th post ====
[[Image:100MFURGET.jpg|thumb|right|425px|4chan 100.000.000 post]]
On November 30th, 2008, at 15:54:26, the 100 millionth post on /b/ was a post that featured a furry image by artist [[Strype (person)|Strype]] ([http://www.furaffinity.net/view/1266054 image]). This iconic action on this day would shortly thereafter be labeled as the day of "Epic Fail", and the next day after it, anyone who asked about it was quickly banned from the site.{{fact}}

The post/thread was immediately deleted, but not before users were able to save/download copies of it. <ref>[http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?lkjmzeyyyzi Saved image on PDF format of 4Chan's (furry) 100,000,000th post]</ref>

Other furry GET/milestone 4chan posts include:
*Post #6,500,000 (April 7, 2006) featured an image of a sleeping furry or anthropomorphic [[Pokemon]] ([http://macrochan.org/get.py?sha1=CHGV3UNTT4TYRYWGSWJVQ2GHNKGOBMNX image]).
*Post #9,100,000 (June 16, 2006) featured an image of a naked [[Catgirl|catgirl]] ([http://macrochan.org/get.py?sha1=NZ2EO2ZZLJELSG5RKKY4Y6ZVOMHQSG5P image]).
*Post #17,000,000 (December 08, 2006) featured a image of a [[Macro]] [[Sheila Vixen]] by [[furry artist]] [[Eric W. Schwartz]] ([http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/9751/1165700927393xr0.jpg image]).
*Post #200,000,000 (Febuary 21, 2010) featured an image of Ninetails, a [[Pokemon]].

As with the 100,000,000th post, these were immediately deleted,{{fact}} except for the 200,000,000th post.<ref>[http://4chanarchive.org/brchive/dspl_thread.php5?thread_id=200000000 /b/ 200m post at 4chanarchive]

The 200,000,000th post was significant as it was stickied, gathered over 4,000 posts, and brought about another large backlash, causing moot to truncate post numbers on /b/ so the last 3 digits in a post cannot be seen simply by glancing at the post.

==4chan and the 2006 /b/ exodus (/b/-day)==

[[Image:NevarForget.jpg|thumb|right|/b/ drama]]
On 2006-08-23, the 4chan moderators started to strictly enforce its previously neglected rules on posting illegal content, private forum/wiki raids (such as the ones on Wikifur) and posting personal information. This caused a great deal of unrest within the /b/ community, with many expressing their discontent. Ultimately, most users stayed, accepting the new rules, while some left to find other image boards on which they could post such content without punishment.

A new home was found at the [[7chan]] image-board, and a new /b/ community was recreated there with less restrictive rules, and a dedicated board for the posting of calls to invasion, /i/. Thus, any clash, raid or interaction between /b/ users and furry most likely originates from this new board, instead of 4chan's (still operational) /b/ community and/or users.

==/b/ terminology (partial)==
Both 4chan and 7chan /b/ communities share some of the following terms. These examples are some of the most relevant when involving furry, with some appearing during /b/ invasions (raids.) Many other examples can be perused [http://wikichan.org/wiki/Memes at WikiChan].

*'''/b/tard''': Both a derisive ("retard") and a self-identifying term for /b/ users.
*'''Anonymous Does Not Forgive''': The battle cry of many /b/ raiders. The anonymous users of /b/ commit to a course of action and retaliate against perceived insults and attacks.
*'''F40PH Friday''': Every Friday, /b/ users mass post images of F40PHs.
*'''Caturday''': Every Saturday, /b/ users mass post images of cats and kittens to /b/.
*'''GTFO FURFAG''' ("Get The Fuck Out[,] [[Furfag]]"): A [[Wikipedia:Memetic|memetic]] [[Wikipedia:Internet_slang|net slang]] term used on anybody posting [[furry art]] on 4chan, especially /b/.
*'''DESU''': A catch phrase used by [[Wikipedia:Suiseiseki|Suiseiseki]] in [[Wikipedia:Rozen Maiden|Rozen Maiden]]. It is a Japanese sentence closure and literally means "it is". /b/ has taken and exaggerated this catch phrase: it is often spammed to make up meaningless replies, a rotated version ''nsәp'' and ASCII version are also used. "Desu" may also refer to the character Suiseiseki. '''Furry Desu''', or [[Furseiseki]] is a furry fan creation, where she's drawn as an [[anthropomorphic]] [[fox]] counterpart to Suiseiseki.
*'''Harbl''': Slang for testicles or male genitalia.
*'''Pool's Closed''': Notification that a pool (as on [[Wikipedia:Habbo Hotel|Habbo Hotel]]) or other public area is blocked by raiders and inaccessible. The "pool" is usually closed due to [[Wikipedia:AIDS|AIDS]].
*'''Nigra''': The image or avatar of a cleanly suited black man with an [[Wikipedia:Afro|afro]] hairstyle that many raiders adopt. Also known as /b/rothas.
*'''/r/''': '''R'''equest (i.e. "/r/ backup, /r/ the following image")
*'''CP''': [[Wikipedia:Child_pornography|Child Pornography]].
*'''JB''': "Jailbait" (underage [ [[Wikipedia:Tween_(demographics)|"tween"]] ] porn.)

==See also==
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4chan 4chan] on [[Wikipedia]]

==References==
<references/>

==External links==

*[http://www.lurkmore.com/wiki/Category:4chan Lurkmore Wiki article about 4chan]
*[http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/\b\ Cyber Nations Wiki article about \b\ on 4chan and 7chan]

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[[Category:Mature image boards]]

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Talk:Kid Radd

2010-03-14T04:14:10Z

2010-03-13T14:57:58Z

Zhael: Got rid of positive bias; it is now neutral. A couple grammatical mistakes fixed, and one line completely removed, as it is an opinion, not fact.

__NOTOC__[[File:YiffyYaffleRanger.png|right|thumb|160px|Yiffy Yaffle/Wolfee Darkfang]]
'''Wolfee Darkfang''' is the player of '''Yiffy Yaffle''' in [[Second Life]].

==Second Life==

In October 2004, [[User:wolfeedarkfang|wolfeedarkfang]] found [[Second Life]], where she created the account Yiffy Yaffle. She quickly became a builder and scripter, creating many items which can be found throughout the grid, including an open-source vendor system, intended to help new residents sell their creations and learn programming. She is very active in the community and forums.

=== The Forest ===

In January 2005, Wolfee was given the tasks of Head Security Administrator and a Builder for the popular [[furry]]-themed [[island (Second Life)|island simulation]] [[The Forest]]. She was in charge of keeping the peace, making sure that troublemakers didn't harm residents or visitors. She also managed a [[Furry Art Museum]] in the western side of the island as a hobby; the gallery contained artwork from various artists in furry fandom, rated from G to "tasteful" XXX.

In May 2006, Wolfee moved along with the other administrators of The Forest to manage a new sim - [[Serenity Woods]], located in the [[Fur Valleys]].

=== "Second Life Furry" logo===
[[File:Slfur.png|right|100px|Second Life Furry logo]]
In early 2006, after a meeting of all furry and/or furry-friendly sims' administrators or owners was held on [[FurNation Worlds]] to discuss strategies for unifying the furry fandom within Second Life. Wolfee was given the task of designing what was intended to be an official identifying symbol for all furry presence within this Second Life.

All new furry sims/locations since 2007 were given the image to be used. The symbol has declined in use since then, possibly due to the high churn rate of sims, sites shutdowns, merges and land resale.

==YouTube==

For quite a while, Wolfee has been an active participant of the furry community on Youtube.

=== In the Past ===

Wolfee was once a large part of the "[[YouTube Furry War]]," which began shortly after Dalhusky had left his role as being the main target for trolls. However, Wolfee had been nothing but a bystander until he began making videos directly about the war. This lead to being hacked several times, and being accused of false DCMAs, but whether or not this true cannot be proven or denied.

=== WolfeeDarkfang's YouTube Today ===

On February 19, 2010, Wolfee removed himself from the YouTube Furry Community's drama, although he still participates in the Youtube Furry Community itself. He now spends his time in the community with general comedy videos and videos targeted toward his friends, as opposed to the community or trolls themselves.

==External links==
* [http://www.wolfeedarkfang.com/ The Purple Wolf Punk] - Wolfee Darkfang's website

[[Category:People]][[Category:Artists]][[Category:Wolf characters]][[Category:Second Life characters]]

{{Supporter}}

Talk:Wolfee Darkfang

2010-03-13T03:36:04Z

Zhael:

hello, I would like to know where you got your info
1. the FCTC is NOT part of the PN
2. the FCTC was formed in summer 07
3. the FCTC could have no contact whatsoever with wolfeedarkfang 3 years ago since it was created summer 2007
4. when the FCTC discovered the beastforum page and posted it, all the information was deleted
5. ????
6. PROFIT!!!

kthxbai
[[User:Whyusman|Whyusman]] 23:04, 28 March 2008 (UTC)longdong

== Adding on to what Whyusman said. ==

The FCTC wasn't created specifically to fight furries on YT, this is just unwarranted self-importance on the part of the furries getting trolled. Nobody is going to dedicate a trolling group with around 100 members to pissing off furries on YT. The FCTC is a general purpose trolling group that just happened to get involved with the war. [[User:86.42.218.23|86.42.218.23]] 14:11, 29 March 2008 (UTC)Everyone's favourite Irish troll

==Wolfee Darkfang/Yiffy Yaffle==
I notice that [[User:wolfeedarkfang]] has removed large portions of this article on the grounds that the information was about the person Wolfee Darkfang and not the character Yiffy Yaffle, which this article is about.

In this case, should an article on the character's owner be created, and this character-article be merged into it as would normally be done?--[[User:Higgs Raccoon|Higgs Raccoon]] 17:19, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

:Yes. I went ahead and moved Yiffy's article to Wolfee Darkfang. [[User:SpazKitty|Spaz Kitty]] 17:25, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank You. The original Yiffy Yaffle article was started by greenreaper when he met me in second life. He didn't know at the time, Yiffy Yaffle was just a secondary name i gone by. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Wolfeedarkfang|Wolfeedarkfang]] ([[User talk:Wolfeedarkfang|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Wolfeedarkfang|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.

==Pronouns?==
The person known under the name "Wolfeedarkfang" is male, as evidenced by pictures of him on YouTube and his voice. It seems he edits this article himself, which is why I'm unsure of the protocol, but referring to the person known as Wolfeedarkfang in this article as "she" is obviously incorrect. If the article were over Yiffy Yaffle specifically, then I could see why, but when it refers to the person himself... that doesn't make sense to me. Can I get any confirmation on that? Unless he is a pre-op MTF transsexual, then I can understand that. ([[User:Nexnix|Nexnix]] 05:55, 3 May 2009 (UTC))

:It's a tricky question, and probably one that you might best address directly to the subject. We don't have a firm policy on it. Wikipedia tends to use the gender used consistently by the subject, if any, which is why I suggest asking them. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 06:01, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

In addition, paragraph four has a random subject shift and seems to have nothing to do with the article as a whole. If no response to the discussion page is made (this wiki tends to be inactive), then I will proceed and edit the article myself. ([[User:Nexnix|Nexnix]] 05:58, 3 May 2009 (UTC))

:I've removed the section about ownership transfer as it really has very little to do with the subject of the article and is better covered on the appropriate articles. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 06:03, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

::Awesome, thanks. I'm always pretty hesitant to edit wikis, especially when I'm not as "known", because most of my edits get reverted. ([[User:Nexnix|Nexnix]] 06:10, 3 May 2009 (UTC))

My fursona "Wolfee Darkfang is a FEMALE. Just because I am a male does not make my fursona a male. Please refrain from editing my article with such fictional statements. Here is a reference image. you can clearly see she has breasts. http://images.wolfeedarkfang.com/rebelwolfee2.jpg
([[User:Wolfeedarkfang|Wolfeedarkfang]] 06:57, 3 May 2009 (UTC))

:I was under the assumption that this article was about the player, considering it has a separate mention of the fursona 'Yiffy Yaffle'. My apologies, though. Perhaps, as the player mentioned in this article, you can clear those the confusion up to readers of this article who may or may not understand? ([[User:Nexnix|Nexnix]] 13:54, 4 May 2009 (UTC))
::On that note, what I mean is that it says this: "October 2004 wolfeedarkfang found Second Life, where she created the account Yiffy Yaffle." This is misleading and it makes me think that the article is about the player, wolfeedarkfang, and not wolfeedarkfang, the fursona. Do you see what I mean? The reason I have a beef with this is because your existence came to my attention by way of a friend, and I didn't think that your YouTube channel was actually yours due to misleading pronouns/subject use. But, considering it's an article about you, I'm not going to go against your wishes since it is technically kosher under the wiki's rules. ([[User:Nexnix|Nexnix]] 14:07, 4 May 2009 (UTC))

==The furry Second Life logo==

After noticing this little tibid had no citations I decided to do some investigating. After searching various furry groups in Second life and seeing the logo nowhere I asked SL users on Fur Affinity's forums. [http://forums.furaffinity.net/showthread.php?t=55279 They too had never seen the logo.] Considering that this is said to be "the official identifying symbol for all furry presence" within the program, it seems as though this was either a half truth or outright lie. I removed the section because of it. --[[User:Paxilrose|Paxilrose]] 02:31, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

:Didn't look hard enough. The logo is prominent in several Furry/non-Furry Locations (Abbott, Furnation, Lusk,...) Having passed the image file around to users that requested several times on the last four years I will say that the logo is more than real. Wolfee Darkfang was indeed the artists being the design, which was presented at "The Forest" old location (pre-Taco) along with several alternate designs.

:All thought real, and at one point hoisted on all major furry sims, the push to interest new sims and new owners to the standard up is no longer there. A more concise research may avoid deleting actual data like this one in the future - [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 03:33, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

::: Interesting. Now at what point was this symbol hosted at the major sims? Was it a fairly long ago? I find it odd that dozens of people and quite a bit of research had turned up absolutely no evidence of such an image ever being prominent, let alone a unifying, though it being an archaic symbol may answer that. I'd also like to raise the point that the section should still be amended, since it seems like something that is or was "the official identifying symbol for all furry presence" to be virtually unknown by a significant of those asked about it raises issues about it's notoriety. Due forgive my skepticism on the issue, as knowing the aforementioned artist for quite some time and being aware of his complicated relationship with the truth coupled with the fact no reference or citation was given made me unsure of the authenticity of the claim.--[[User:Paxilrose|Paxilrose]] 03:48, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

:::: The location of the standard/flag/pennant/sign was up to the owners,... Furnation had it at their welcome sim, Abbott's used as a port sign to furry locations, Taco had it near its gazebo, The Forest one was a flag near the landing pad,... On 2006, there was a lot of intersim talk to keep all sims up to date when it came to anything furry. Such efforts, now 4 years later, seem to have been wash away, but that's life.

:::: As I was around those venues around 2006, yes, I got to witness this communication effort first hand, so it did indeed occur. But, it doesn't seem you have a problem with the data itself, as you have with the person in question, do you?. Please, put aside any future PoV views you have when editing, as you could have damaged a bit of furry SL lore due to personal dislikes - [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 04:09, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

::::: * "But, it doesn't seem you have a problem with the data itself, as you have with the person in question, do you?" I find this disrespectful. As I said, after looking for evidence myself, asking others for their personal experience and finding nothing to verify the story, I concluded it to be false. I specifically cite asking others for their familiarity with the symbol and they too had never seen it. Given that the section had no citation and seemingly nobody backing it up, I chalked it up as another exaggeration. You yourself have just stated that this particular image's prominence was years ago and has indeed faded over time, logical reasoning for coming up with nothing.

::::: I have edited wikis for quite some time and know the difference between simply being mistaken and deliberate vandalization. Considering I specified my reasoning and referenced my sources for coming to the conclusion, I'd appreciate not having a minor mistaken being attributed to somebody's "He's out to get me!" claims. --[[User:Paxilrose|Paxilrose]] 04:30, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

::::::I apologize, then, if I sounded brusque, not my intention to accuse you of anything, just editing methods quibbles - [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 04:36, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
::::: Spirou, perhaps you could put this information in the article, as you seem to know more about it than anyone else here. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 02:43, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
::::::How could I do that?,... I came by by chance; A large group of furs were gathered in one of Furnation's sims, specifically on a platform that they had used the nite prior for an Iron Builder(?) competion. I caught the middle of the conversation, but in a Reader's Digest version, Fur sim owner's (Nexus the only one I remember to date,) and users were both chatting away about the furry presence on SL, how to make it more mainstream within the grid, come up with some kind of interconnected BBS placed on all major sims welcome gates, 3D directional maps (somebody popping up a Death Star like displayed with dots to represent sims,) the problem of griefing, how to combat it non violently (or just by some, ignoring it,)... the discussion winded down, and I caught some discussions here and there about this endeavor. Along the way the logo came up, with a note that (some) participating sim owners and users had agreed to use it as an "official" graphic to symbolize furry on SL.

::::::For some reason I remember helping pass the logo image around to all the furry airport sims' owners, to fly up near the welcoming pads. After that, I keep seeing the banner/flag flying in several furry locations, the first non-furry I saw being Abbotts.

::::::As it being a general consensus by every furry all over the grid, no, it was not. Was it a large consensus by users and sim's owners on that day on a sim that was one of the most popular at that time and place, yes. It was the only time in all the years in world were people came to an almost agreement,... By now, thou, just another abandoned idea, as fleeting as the next sim layout on any large furry sim.

::::::Screenshots?, well I took one of the logo when Wikifur came online, and as most of grid lore, hardly no events make it out to the web printed sites (all though Wikifur is filling that purpose now). First person viewing/account is all I got for you, sry - [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 04:37, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

:::::::"''I suggest giving specific locations where it was displayed instead''" Guh! Gods, I would need to actually search for that info =P Most of the sites/sims have been removed/replaced/rearranged,... FurNation Worlds, The Forest, Serenity Woods, Taco, Abbotts Aerodrome, Luskwood (all thought I just popped in world to snap a pic, the banner is gone), Fur Valleys, FlyinTails Airfield, Rainbow Tiger, Lost Forest, and establishments I cannot longer remember =/ Never ocurred back then I would need to have some reference material - [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 04:47, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

::::::::I can give some pointers as to researching this. The logo was created during a meeting of the furry sim owners, which was easy to do at the time considering there weren't very many. We had the leaders of furnation, fur valley, and some rogue sims and some hosted by anshe chung studios. We decided we needed a logo to represent our alliance. While everyone was deciding i jumped into photoshop and created it, and posted it on a flat panel prim where they can all see it. Since noboy else was there to give other logo ideas, i won and my logo was used. I think the following members attended, but there must have at least been 15-6 participants. infernial savage (i think thats how his last name is spelled), nexxus ambassador, ron overdrive, angel fluffy, the owner of meeting island, the former owners of taco who now co own luskwood, luskwood, and i'm not sure but i think anshe might have been there, but i think she was busy and couldn't attend. --[[User:Wolfeedarkfang|wolfeedarkfang]] 04:59, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Paxilrose is here simply to hide my achievements from the public and turn furries against me. he wants to give me the false impression that the fandom hates me and wants nobody to know what I've really done to help furries. This way more people take his side. I would truly appreciate it if he was stopped or at least not allowed to comment on my article. he has been attempting to troll me for over 2 years, he is afraid to admit he is wrong, and while most trolls move on after they had their fun, he sticks around like a bad disease.
--[[Special:Contributions/Wolfeedarkfang|Wolfeedarkfang3]] 04:43, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

See? Like that.--[[User:Paxilrose|Paxilrose]] 05:04, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

:Well, he's right. Your [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Single-purpose account|only purpose here]], as displayed by [[Special:Contributions/Paxilrose|your contributions]], seems to be to denigrate Wolfee Darkfang, and to glorify your meaningless battle against him. Don't think you can use your wiki "experience" to blind us to your interests here. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 02:07, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

:: This had been brought up before, and I had explained my case to you. Not only did you ignore the first time I explained myself, but another request to contact you went ignored, so I assumed you took no issue with my means. --[[User:Paxilrose|Paxilrose]] 04:44, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

==Undoing text removal==
I am reverting [http://en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=Wolfee_Darkfang&diff=288509&oldid=288507 this edit], as Wolfeedarkfang's edit comment (''Please refrain from posting it here. YouTube drama needs to go on my userpage not the article of my second life character.'') suggests he may be confused about the nature of Articles and User Pages.

On WikiFur, it is not our practice to have separate articles for people and their fursonas. Hence, this isn't an article solely about "(your) second life character", it also covers *you*, the character's player.

Also, while Articles on WikiFur are open to editing by everyone, User Pages are essentially personal pages where (generally) only the User in question makes changes, and can have whatever they like there. Thus, a User Page isn't a substitute for an Article. Relevant information shouldn't be cut from an Article and dumped in a User Page, as it discourages free editing and discussion of that information.--[[User:Higgs Raccoon|Higgs Raccoon]] 14:26, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Then essentially things have changed since this article was created, and this would mean both the article and my userpage would be duplicates of each other. :/ This was not my intention. The article was originally about my second life account "Yiffy Yaffle" but the name of the article was changed to reflect my fursona name instead, which i don't think i authorized. Either the article should be deleted or made into a redirect to my userpage or something to prevent duplication. We don't need 2 pages for the same thing. It's too much for me, the creater of the pages to manage.
--[[User:Wolfeedarkfang|Wolfeedarkfang]] 17:35, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

:Well, that's OK, you're not really meant to manage it anyway - the community is. :-)
:We don't redirect to user pages because the User: namespace is (within reasonable limits) under the user's control, and WikiFur doesn't offer articles that are under the subject's control. The User: page is available for you to put forth the things that you want to say personally, but it's '''main''' use is to describe your activities as an editor at WikiFur. Compare [[RainRat]] and [[Kendricks Redtail]] to [[User:Rat]] and [[User:KendricksRedtail]]. What we usually end with in the non-User: area is one article with two sections - one about the character, and one about the person. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 23:41, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

==Complete Revamp of the Page?==
Should we completely rewrite the page? Wolfee has taken it upon himself to edit out everything that isn't about SecondLife, and, instead, posting it on his own page. Since the pages should be made without bias, should we include everything from a third-party standpoint? When people are directed to Wolfee's page for everything else, it makes other furs/people believe he's had absolutely no wrong in any of this. I'm not pinning all the blame on him; however, what he has done should be shown as is.

[[User:Zhael|Zhael]] 15:34, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

There is a such thing i think should not be standard practice, and that is duplicating pages. If you want to talk about youtube, keep it on the pages related to it. This page was never meant to be related to it. I created this article to talk about my second life character. Nothing else.
[[User:Wolfeedarkfang|Wolfeedarkfang]] 15:34, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

On any wiki, one does not have the main parts of themself split up into separate pages, unless the length is such and the content is divided enough that it needs it. This is true from Wikipedia itself, to any of the Wikias, even to parodies like Encyclopedia Dramatica and Uncyclopedia. The user page is meant to be a personal page, not an extra page in and of itself.

[[User:Zhael|Zhael]] 23:25, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

In this case it was needed because my second life account has a life different from my fursona. They did things in SL such as administrating sims and creating a logo for SL furries. This separates them from wolfee darkfang. The youtube drama has nothing to do with yiffy yaffle.
[[User:Wolfeedarkfang|Wolfeedarkfang]] 23:25, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

I understand, and respect that you and Yiffy Yaffy are not the same person emotionally, but it is connected enough to have them both together. Like I said previously, this is to prevent both bias and confusion.

[[User:Zhael|Zhael]] 23:41, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Well just be advised i will revert any changes that defame me. I'm not saying you have, but just be aware i don't want false facts or hate comments on my articles. We have enough of that on ED...
[[User:Wolfeedarkfang|Wolfeedarkfang]] 23:41, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

I plan on adding everything that involves you that I know and can site. This may include controversy, but I plan on not having any sort of negative or positive spin on what I say. My idea is not to defame you, nor is it to praise you. It is only to present what pertains to you in a professional way. I will admit that I've read your ED article, but I've been following you long before that.

[[User:Zhael|Zhael]] 23:55, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Ok but be aware that ED bares no reality about me. Most of it is made up or merely loosely based on events that took place. If you base anything you say off of it, it will most likely be incorrect. You should base things off of other sources instead.
[[User:Wolfeedarkfang|Wolfeedarkfang]] 23:55, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Just because I read it doesn't mean my proof comes from them. I also do not agree that it is made up or loosely based, I will say that some of the facts are... inflated, for lack of better word. I can site what I add.

[[User:Zhael|Zhael]] 00:03, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

I have a iffy feeling about this quot off your userpage... "I do not identify myself as a troll, but I do argue with those who I have ideas about. The most recent of this is WolfeeDarkfang, who had called me out quite a while ago, whom I held a grudge against". This gives me the impression you will be biased in favor of anti-wolfee propaganda. I hope this wont be the case or i will have to take action. I think i know who you are now and you did make some hate videos about me. You're one of the people who attacked me on youtube after i left the e-drama and made my videos about MrD. MrD and i have made up since then. I don't trust you but if you say your gonna be non biased I will hold you to that.

[[User:Wolfeedarkfang|Wolfeedarkfang]] 00:03, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Notice how I follow it up. I pulled that video about a month ago because I decided that you weren't worth it. Forgive and forget.
But I didn't follow propaganda. You probably don't remember me, but you personally attacked me via a YouTube comment when you allowed public comments. But you probably mistook me as a troll. I'm incredibly heavy on my opinions when I believe in something. 
But it's water under the bridge, and it's not worth bringing up. I no longer see a point in holding grudges. After all, it's either a mistake, or it didn't actually "hurt" me.

[[User:Zhael|Zhael]] 00:44, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

I also see this as if you have a grudge. if you didn't then why are you targeting wolfee and still have it stated that you "had a grudge" on your page. That seems like you have a particular agenda and still have a grudge. --[[User:Arcticfoxslash|Slash V. Lagopus]] 01:39, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Who said I'm targeting? I'm no longer a supporter or an opposer. What I plan on adding puts him in a better light, and it goes against him, simply by all fact.
Why Wolfee specifically? Because he's who I know about. Like I said, I've followed him for a fair amount of time. Why would I do that? I used to be a part of the furry war. Now, I no longer care about it. It's actually quite funny. I'll stop when I feel I've done a sufficient amount, then move to someone else I know. I know a reasonable amount on others in the fandom, such as Taggz, LeeuRex, and others, where I could make a page about them. I just know mainly about Wolfee.
As said by Gene Wilder, "Good day, sir."

[[User:Zhael|Zhael]] 01:49, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

== This page was supposed to be about my second life avatar not my fursona ==

This page was supposed to be about my second life avatar not my fursona. You can even ask GreenRepaer about it. He knew me in Second Life and my accomplishments there, and that my own userpage is about my fursona outside of SL. If you wish to combine the two, then just make this page a redirect to my userpage.

I contacted my friend tamias who has been involved with the youtube community as long as i have and asked him to help me out here. Some things i had him correct are the validity of zhael's claims that i left the community, the false DMCAs, and being banned. None of these things ever happened. Here is the truth. I never left the community. I still make videos. I merely left the e-wars between anti-furs and furries, I've never been banned from youtube. I was hacked and closed my account after wrestling over control of it. I then had it re opened. I have never filed a single false DMCA in my entire time of being on YouTube. I have filed DMCAs but they are all valid because my copyright of the cartoon character Wolfee Darkfang was breached. Already zhael is being biased and you admins who know nothing about what happened are letting all of this slip. What ever happened to being valid? Wikis suffer from being open for all people to contribute, because lies and ignorant false facts slip right into every article if a admin has no knowledge about it.

--[[User:Wolfeedarkfang|wolfeedarkfang]] 03:04, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

I don't bias my facts. If anything, I'm just annoyed you're trying to defend yourself. Within ten minutes, Tamias had been registered, and your page be made to how you like it. I know he's an actual friend of yours, but you only got him to register to defend you. No opening statement, no nothing. Just to change your page. Honestly, it's incredibly hard to believe. I have nothing against you, I cannot stress this enough. But when you jump on me, most likely because I'm younger, I have a personal idea. I can site everything, I can refute your claims, and yet you continue to say that I'm being unfair. I'm sure we could get along if we had a fresh start, but, sadly, I'm afraid neither of us are willing to make that first step. I tried, but apparently I was ignored (check your discussion page). I'm going to continue to post '''only what I can prove'''.

[[User:Zhael|Zhael]] 03:09, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Zhael, everything has been biased and looks pretty much like its based completely off of ED ontop of that nothing has been referenced that you say you can reference. if you have proof Zheal then post them on here rather then being immature. As far as Tamias is concerned he made an account after I told him about what was going on as he knows wolfee better then I do.
--[[User:Arcticfoxslash|Slash V. Lagopus]] 03:34, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Zhael, both you and Tamias appear to be here just to edit this article. You have made assertions of fact that are disputed. Please provide your citations here so that the matter may be discussed, rather than playing the revert game. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 03:20, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

I'll be honest, I am completely tired of repeating myself. What started as a simple addition of facts turned into a battle. I already said when I'm done adding what I can to Wolfee, I'm moving to another fur, and another. LeeuRex, Taggz, CalloeWolf, among others. 

Citations? 
http://www.beastforum.com/showuser-133488.html 
http://forums.furaffinity.net/showthread.php?p=992522#post992522 and http://forums.furaffinity.net/showthread.php?p=992596#post992596. Now, looking at that, compared to http://www.youtube.com/t/terms?gl=GB&hl=en-GB, http://forums.furaffinity.net/showpost.php?p=992632&postcount=236, and http://forums.furaffinity.net/showpost.php?p=992570&postcount=226, it is proved he either DCMAs for the wrong reason, or false DCMAs for things that pertain against him.

I'll make what I write only use "neutral" words about him (Which I believe I've done a good job on) if I have the ability to post on this page. '''However''', I agree to talk to Wolfee before adding sections on him, if he agrees to this.

[[User:Zhael|Zhael]] 03:47, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Furaffinity Forums LMFAO. You do know that the people who created and contributed to topics are friends of paxilrose the almighty troll right? These are self hating furries who are willing to believe anything that anyone says bad about the fandom. Using that as citations, you might as well be using ED. This has already been discussed before many times.

[[User:Wolfeedarkfang|Wolfeedarkfang]] 03:47, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for reading a select part of what I wrote. My offer still stands. I'm completely fine with ending this at any time, but you have to agree to it, I can't just give up. That would make me either weak or confirm your suspicions that I'm a troll, whichever.
Anyway, it doesn't matter what you think of the other people, Paxil has a valid point.

[[User:Zhael|Zhael]] 04:04, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
As tamias, felinoid, and myself are on voice chat in second life discussing this at this very moment, we all know that the beast forum account was created during a troll raid on beast forum and that like every other forum of that same software, a user can easily change their username. That is why the link to the page is a number rather then having the name of the user included. Sorta like in second life we all have UUID keys because if for any reason our name has to be changed, the key is there to make sure we can still interact with things that know us by our key. It works the same for the forums. Paxil does not have a valid point, he made up a lot of stuff about me. Which is all in the past, mind you... Right now i see paxilrose neutrally. I have no problems with him right now.
--[[User:Wolfeedarkfang|wolfeedarkfang]] 04:09, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Then why does BeastForum have concrete evidence it was you?
And sorry, Paxil does have a point. Sorry, but I've seen the video before it was pulled. I've followed you, and I really thought you were right on that, until I saw his post referring everyone to the TOS and the direct quote. I'm not saying this applies to now, but every time I tried to add it, it was changed right back.
Once again, it seems you are paying no mind to my proposition.

[[User:Zhael|Zhael]] 04:12, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

The beast Forum account was created during a troll raid on Beastforum. A common feature on this site is to easily change the user name of an account. Additionally the account filled under wolfee darkfang was never used. This account was brought up the Fried Chicken Trolling Crew during their campiagn to slander wolfee darkfang and ruin his reputation in the youtube furry community as well as other furry communities throughout the internet.
--[[User:Tamiasthechipmunk|Tamiasthechipmunk]] 04:14, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Most likely because that stuff was posted by the troll who owned the account? Derp derp derp...
--[[User:Wolfeedarkfang|wolfeedarkfang]] 04:16, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Admins? Of a much used site? Trolling your account? See how they banned it and posted the proof '''as an admin?'''
I'm honestly loving the selective wording; picking just one phrase and arguing my entire point.

Did i say it was a admin? No... You can lie on your own profile you know... I could post on my youtube profile right now that i am the queen of england.
--[[User:Wolfeedarkfang|wolfeedarkfang]] 04:21, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

The admins have posted the truth, hon. They put the proof there, not the trolls. Are you insinuating that they are lying, which would compromise their entire website for libel? If so, why haven't you sued them, yet?

[[User:Zhael|Zhael]] 04:25, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

You actually believe that was a admin who posted on the account? Wow you really are ignorant. Also Several of my friends have emailed the support team of beast forum and they either never reply or they state "we do not give out any information about our users". So any information claimed to be from a admin is obviously bullsh!t. Like i said, the user wrote that in their own profile. They may be banned now but they weren't always banned ya know...
--[[User:Wolfeedarkfang|wolfeedarkfang]] 04:28, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Riddle me this, Batman: if they were banned, why wouldn't the admins delete all the stuff. Once again, the libel suit is present. Instead, they have every argument to against someone who would say it isn't you. You do realize they also said that anyone who emails them without a just cause really isn't worth their time, too, right?
Remember, though, you're a grown man arguing with a minor. I'll have to go, soon, but I have time for days. Any time you want this to end, just look at my deal. It may not be there forever.

[[User:Zhael|Zhael]] 04:32, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

I highly doubt when a account is banned it gets wiped... Take furaffinity as a example. When you look at a banned account there, it still shows the account's info, they just can't use it anymore. You should consider getting a job for fox news. You do a much better job being biased then Glen Beck ever could. This is a known forgery everyone is aware of as a forgery. Even the trolls know. They only kept egging me on about it because they got a reaction. They put this to rest a long time ago. You're only necromancing it. I declare this argument over. I have better things to do then argue points i've made billions of times within the past 2 years. I left the furry drama for a reason. It's tiring, stressful, and regurgitates it's self. And here you are contributing to it. It is Over!

--[[User:Wolfeedarkfang|wolfeedarkfang]] 04:39, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

This only proves what I've said. First of all, they have the power to do it manually. Secondly, I wasn't biased until you took it upon yourself to insubordinate me. Third, you can't just call things over. You aren't the supreme master. Fourth, you claim me of being biased, when you've called me, "ignorant," "immature," and other things. Basically '''I WILL LET THIS END''', but not until you agree to what I have to say, or at least read it. You just don't seem to want to even bother to want to know what I've said. Hon, just actually read what I've said, and tell me what you think. No bais, just facts, your approval. But if you don't want that, I can always just write what I have cited.
'''PERHAPS MY SHIFT KEY WILL MAKE YOU READ IT.''' I'm tired of being ignored, whether it's status, notability, age, whatever. You've yet to dispute several claims, and it seems you don't have proof. Once again, '''this ends mutually, not when you want it to. Just read what I've said before.''' {{unsigned|Zhael}}

== Inconclusive ==

To Zhael: Just jumping on this first day, it it's quite obvious that most of the the "data" presented is suspicious and refutable, and using Paxilrose rose (fake cons) as back-up is something we have learned not to use here at this wiki. You seem to have a strong desire for a vendetta or to label this person with a quite damaging brush for X reasons. Please post concrete, valid and verifiable data, because so far, the ones presented are just tenuous hearsay,...

...And that means do not repost the same data so far over and over so far, please - [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 04:46, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

:I will post what I've said and he has yet to refute himself.
:On the first day? I just edited the page, he became defensive. Sorry dear, but I'm just trying to edit a page, then create another. I would have let him be if he did not turn this into a personal attack. I already said I would put him in both a flattering light and post the controversy, but not out of bias. I would do it with facts. I've already proposed to not post anything without his approval, but he doesn't care to read what I say. I want to be good with everyone, but when Wolfee strikes, it seems everyone else does. [[User:Zhael|Zhael]] 04:49, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

::A) I'm not your "Dear", B) I don't care about his actions towards you or anybody else unless rude, offensive, threatening or condescending, and C) As asked for proof, please post concrete, valid and verifiable data, and that means do not repost the same data so far over and over so far - [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 04:58, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

== Permission Please ==

Please allow me to delete the talks I've had part in.
I'm sorry for what I've done, but I am '''not''' at total fault. This is as much Wolfee's fault as it was mine, along with anyone else who was part of this. 
I ask I also have access to editing his page, when public allowance is back up, if I can cite a "concrete source," as, apparently, my first person accounts along with testimonials do not count. I know of a couple YouTube videos I can use. I will, however, leave out information on BeastForum and the DMCA accounts. 
I'm tired of arguing, but it's not my fault completely. I take responsibility for my parts in it, however.

[[User:Zhael|Zhael]] 15:05, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

I recommend against this action it wil be videos from trolls such as empiroqkrit or paxilrose. Which will be 100% biased due to the fact he refuses to let me speak my part on the matter and continued to revert changes that corrected him before. This person is simply wishing to vandalize my article, which should not be tolerated. We have already seen his "non biased" *caugh* bullsh... edits. Any further allowing of such treachery should be mal advised. He claimed to be non biased, yet he lied in most of the article already. What makes you think this will change? Spouting anything made by trolls, and refusing to allow my side of the story? Yea that is the definition of biased. I recently made a blog entry about this kind of thing. Check it out. [http://blog.wolfeedarkfang.com/?p=48]

--[[User:Wolfeedarkfang|wolfeedarkfang]] 21:59, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

The article wasn't biased. The argument wasn't made so until you made it. Your fault, take responsibility.

[[User:Zhael|Zhael]] 22:17, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Zhael the "sources" you have are either disputed or have been debunked. Wolfee has said this, the admin talking here supports it. The only thing I see in your edits to the Wolfee Darkfang article is the same slander and bullying made against Wolfee by internet trolls like those Wolfee has mentioned above. Unless you have solid concrete citations backing your edits then I suggest posting your edits on the Encyclopedia Dramatica article on Wolfee Darkfang as unfounded slander and bullying is perfectly acceptable on that Wiki site.

--[[User:Tamiasthechipmunk|Tamiasthechipmunk]] 01:57, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

I recommend you actually read what I've said.
THIS IS MY POINT:
I have repeatedly offered to end this, in exchange for '''Wolfee's approval''' before adding anything else. All you want to do is accuse me of things '''I HAVE TRIED TO END'''. What you guys don't understand is that all of you have positive connections with him, therefore, I don't get a word in, because '''you won't listen to me'''. The equivalent would be me telling an eggplant it's an orange; it won't listen, and it won't do anything.

Zhael, you were constantly reverting small revisions such as changing "community" back to "drama" and changing the part of being "accused as being a leader" to "self appointed" without any regard. Every change no matter the slitest change in how it was said was changed to be biased against. You also called wolfee and tamias liers and making comments "You aren't fooling anyone, Wolfee.", "stop trying.", "Lawl, YouTube. This is more accurate, anyhow.". You keep being childish on this whole thing and you are only referring to other trolls with hearsay. This kind of editing has no place on wikifur. Reverting things back and forth is tiring childish on the littlest of changes like changes to just one word. No one is attacking your age but if you mentally mature and take things seriously and can form an opinion other then what trolls say or whats on ED then there would be a chance to take you seriously. Now just to the point Wikifur is not ED and is not for this drama. While the page is locked down start working on someone elses article. At the moment you are showing you are single purposed and really has no intent on really doing any contribution to wikifur then to defame wolfee or put a negitive slant or just whine on the talk.

--[[User:Arcticfoxslash|Slash V. Lagopus]] 02:37, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

I'm tired of this. Everyone taking part in this has personal contact with him. What I did was work against his revisions, as, like before, the whole story wasn't told. My changes kept being reverted without just cause, as they were not explained UNTIL NOW. And, sorry, already working on other people's articles. Since this went on lockdown, I've been working with Taggz on his, and I'm planning on CalloeWolf next time he resurfaces. I'd so love it if people actually listened to me. 
Nothing of what I've said has been listened to. 
Everyone who is part of this is a Wolfee supporter, so you will have nothing to do with me. You want this to be a serious site? Then act like staff on these affairs, not a friend. You give him special treatment. Don't deny it. I'm not listening to the denials, sorry.

[[User:Zhael|Zhael]] 02:43, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

You say your changes keeped getting reverted without just cause or explanations? "Correcting 1 part. I never stated i was leaving the community. I stated i was leaving any drama that had anything to do with anti-furs and furries. Entirely different" There is one explanation yet you reverted it back making childish comments in the summary. Also you say that your changes just get reverted back. Well on that note before you came along there was no youtube section. It has stayed and it has been corrected but you wouldn't accept even that. I am not biased for or against wolfee as I do not really know wolfee that well. That is why I stayed out of the edits to the article. Also on the matter on people not listening to you, if no one was listening to you then there wouldn't be a list of responses. it would be just you talking on this page with no replies. I am not a wolfee supporter and I defenetly don't agree with everything he says. As far as friend maybe, I am a friend to a lot of people but that is not influencing this one bit. Like I said before keep ED on ED and keep well founded statements that are not hearsay and opinion (and I watched wolfee's videos on leaving drama and it does not say hes leaving the community but leaving the drama)

--[[User:Arcticfoxslash|Slash V. Lagopus]] 03:09, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Please, allow this to drop.
That was the point of this section, but you necroed it, just as Wolfee accused me of doing. The point is that I wanted to be good with Wolfee, but I was assaulted. I want out of this. I will continue to edit the page, but I'll be posting firm citations and I'll let Wolfee do what he wants, but please, I'm tired of being '''completely ignored'''. I'm done arguing, not because I'm wrong, but because I might as well not be posting anything, as nothing I've said has been listened to in it's entirety. 
Please, pull my stuff.

[[User:Zhael|Zhael]] 03:15, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

You keep saying you are completely ignored when I responded to everything you said. If you want this to stop then you stop. You say you wanted to be good with wolfee then don't post what the trolls say. if anyone is ignoring things that are said it is you. Now as far as pulling this off well on wiki it never really is deleted and not my place to remove it. If you want this arguing to end then this should be the last message on this topic. Good luck editing other articles and in the mean time and stop with the poor me attitude that is totally exaggerated like the statements you were putting in the article. I would also suggest reading [[Help:Furry Book of Style | Furry Book of Style]] for future reference on editing wikifur articles.

--[[User:Arcticfoxslash|Slash V. Lagopus]] 03:32, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Several parts went unanswered, but I'm finished.
The false sincerity and snide remarks don't go unnoticed. I want a fresh start, and that was one of the first things I tried to do with Wolfee, but I'm done trying.

[[User:Zhael|Zhael]] 03:36, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Wolfee Darkfang

2010-03-13T03:35:45Z

Zhael:

Talk:Wolfee Darkfang

2010-03-13T03:15:28Z

Zhael:

Talk:The Venture Bros.

User:Zhael

2010-03-12T21:18:37Z

Zhael: Adding revision to Wolfee.

Hello everyone, I'm Zhael Christopher Fall. I'm seen around the internet as Zhael, Wolfee, or WolvenZhael, depending on the sites, mainly FurAffinity and YouTube, and, less commonly, Furcadia.

==Full Fursonas==

I have two main fursonas. My first and primary is my totem, as I am a self-identified therian. My other, Salflop Ryan Baker, is more of an example of who I wish to turn myself into, mentally and emotionally. Both take part in my Role Playing, but Zhael is used more, as it's a better incarnate of myself. Both of these have been taken directly from my FurAffinity page, and edited slightly.

===Zhael Christopher Fall===
Name: Zhael Christopher Fall. The name comes from nothing in particular. It was simply a natural idea to go on. 
Age: 15 
Sex: Male 
Species: Canis Lupis Niger (Black Wolf). 
Height: Five foot, Four inches 
Weight: One Hundred Two pounds 
 
Appearance: 
- Hair and fur: Long black hair on black fur. 
- Markings: Red and blue stripes show when excited in a diagonal pattern. 
- Eye color: One green, one blue 
- Other features: Moderately skinny, but it is difficult to tell unless unclothed. 
Behavior and Personality: Zhael does not become as emotional, but displays it in public. He loves to make friends and be social, but both others and himself do not allow it, so he is normally found either alone and quiet (unless with a guitar) or deep in conversation with whatever friend he can make. 
 
 
Skills: Can play guitar, along with grade-A academics and an ability to play most any sport. 
Weaknesses: Not knowing when something isn't needed or appreciated. 
 
Likes: Movies, hard rock music, hanging out with friends, meeting new people, writing music, writing poetry, writing book(s)/story(ies), and has a large affinity for cuddling. 
Dislikes: Elitists and the closed-minded 
 
History: Zhael's life has been a wreck. He knows it, most people around him know it, and he accepts it. Life had been good. He was a conformist and didn't have a sense on individuality until his father passed away. Now he has come to terms with himself, and it is because of that he is normally ridiculed and ostracized. 
 
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Clothing/Personal Style: A lot of black clothes, dark, baggy jeans, a band shirt (usually Avenged Sevenfold or Iron Maiden), a brown collar, and, when chilly out, a sweatshirt/jacket, normally baggy with an Avenged Sevenfold logo. multiple piercings in the right ear, eyebrow piercing blending in with fur. 
 
Goal: To become a neuroscientist or cardiologist, as a career. To marry happy and to adopt a cub/pup/etc. or two. 
Profession: Student 
Personal quote: "My life really is a violent pornography. Life keeps fucking me, but I get right back up." 
Theme song: ...To Be Loved by Papa Roach or Reckless by Papa Roach, as dedicated to self. Always by Blink 182 as dedicated by ex. 
Birthdate: October 13, 1994 
Star sign: Libra 
 
Favorite food: Rare Ribeye Steak, but he wouldn't say no to copious amounts of fudge 
Favorite drink: Ginger Ale 
Favorite location: Anywhere secluded in the woods, during the fall or winter. At his best, and only guy, friend's house, year round. 
Favorite weather: Cloudy and cold and/or pouring rain. 
Favorite color: Black paired with any bright or neon color. 
 
Least liked food: Corn 
Least liked drink: Black Coffee 
Least liked location: Anywhere crowded when not knowing anyone. 
Least liked weather: Hot and humid together. 
 
Orientation: Gay 
 
Music: Avenged Sevenfold, Papa Roach, and Iron Maiden take up most his collection. 
Movie: No specific movie. 
Book: World War Z - Max Brooks 

===Salflop Ryan Baker===
Name: Salflop Ryan Baker. The first name comes from a desire to be more lighthearted. The remainder of the name comes from '''Ryan''' Ross (Panic at the Disco/The Young Veins) and Zachary '''Baker''' (More commonly known as Zacky Vengeance of Avenged Sevenfold.) 
Age: Sixteen 
Sex: Male, with some female traits (not physical) 
Species: Mouse/Rabbit hybrid 
Height: Five feet, ten inches 
Weight: One hundred and twenty pounds 
 
Appearance: 
- Hair and fur: Fur is white and medium length (not shaggy), while hair is a silky and shiny black going down to shoulders. 
- Markings: Hyena-esque stripes alternating black and purple-ish blue from shoulders to foot-paws; right foot-paw is completely black. 
- Eye color: Deep/Dark Green 
- Other features: Right ear contains a single piercing close to the top; same ear also has a small area that looks like it was cut off. 
Behavior and Personality: 
 
Skills: Singing and Fashion are his main tangible skills. He can also manipulate, convince, and change people. He also has a lot of oddities and useless talents that range from juggling to gymnastics. 
Weaknesses: Becoming too isolated or social at one point in time. Also, he puts other people first, so his problems are pushed aside. 
 
Likes: Being physical and social. Cuddling and hugging are also an affinity of his. He also loves anything that allows him to work with his skills and talents. 
Dislikes: Being forcibly ostracized and leaving people out. Also, failure causes major discouragement with Salflop. 
 
History: Grown up to keep to himself and keep his nose out of trouble, Salflop was always yearned to have friends. While always being alone, teaching himself many tangible and... unique... talents, Salflop never wanted to be alone. He later refused to abide by his guidelines and became social, using his talents to his advantage. Taking great pride in his appearance and intelligence, he easily caught the eye of most everyone. His abilities he learned, to manipulate and seemingly change people, for example, helped keep many friends, but only ever growing close to two. The reason for this may be because being confined is normal to him. 
 
Other:Incredibly social and go-lucky. Tends to write everything down and draw when something comes to mind. Reputation varies, being interesting to friends and a teacher's favorite. While Salflop enjoys making friends, he will still keep to himself, but will almost never say no to any sort of social gathering. He is incredibly (and that's used as an understatement) open about his sexuality. 
 
-- 
 
Clothing/Personal Style: Always darkened, baggy jeans with bright shirts and accessories, ranging from rainbow wristbands to purple collars. 
~-~-~ 
Picture: 
 
Needed. If someone could do that, I'd be grateful! 
~-~-~ 
Goal: 
Profession: Singing Instructor on the side/Full time student 
Personal quote: "I'm probably the biggest bundle of sticks you'll ever find!" 
Theme song: Issues by Mindless Self Indulgence or Longview by Green Day 
Birthdate: August 4rd, '93 
Star sign: Leo 
 
Favorite food: Lemon Poppyseed Cake 
Favorite drink: Cream Soda 
Favorite location: The pool during the summer, schoolgrounds after-school during the Winter. 
Favorite weather: Any weather that is not taken to extremes while either pouring rain or cloudy. 
Favorite color: Neon-Pink with Black 
 
Least liked food: Anything plain-tasting (plain Tortilla chips, i.e.) 
Least liked drink: Whole Milk 
Least liked location: The beach 
Least liked weather: Extremely hot and humid. 
 
Orientation:Gay 
 

==My Role In The Fandom==

I do not have a significant "role" in the fandom, but I am part of it in several areas. This includes art, videos, and other large areas, but being a very small part of such, I am not recognized.

===Art and Poetry===

I am an amateur poet and artist. While my art is abysmal, it seems that my poetry mainly gets positive reviews. In 2008, I was published for non-furry works in both a poetry and prose section of a poetry collection book. I also take commissions and trades, asking for very little, or a picture of my fursona.

===YouTube===

I do not identify myself as a troll, but I do argue with those who I have ideas about. On the subject of WolfeeDarkfang, I tried to stop all this, but I guess you don't care. I won't troll you, but as long as you are insulting and insubordinating me, I will not take it lying down. I have forgiven and forgotten this before, and I am trying now to do so again, and now limit my videos, for the time being, to incredibly bad guitar covers and music. Out of all my videos, the only one to get significant attention is one on Gay Marriage.

This ends when you want it, hun.

==Personal Life==

In real life, I'm fifteen. I'm short, athletic build, and play soccer and basketball. I also swim, but I may be over with that competetive. I managed to swim a speed two seconds away from making the state championship in my first year. As seen in my YouTube, I have black, medium-long hair. It is not the natural color.
I am, and am proud to be, homosexual. I am currently dating an "ex-fur" who left the fandom last year. In school, I currently maintain all A's. I am not the most popular, nor am I a target for insults and bullying. Many of my friends no longer live near me, but I found my niche being with many of the girls, as I am effeminate in several ways.

== Random Thing of the (Time Period Here) ==

Why do I laugh at Family Guy? It's not funny, yet I keep watching it and keep laughing. I can't stop. I know it's not funny, and I see nothing funny about it, but, subconsciously, it seems it is funny to my inner five-year-old.
==External Links==
[http://www.furaffinity.net/user/wolvenzhael/] My FurAffinity Page 
[http://www.youtube.com/user/WolvenZhael?feature=mhw4] My YouTube Account

Thank you guys for looking. Chances are you didn't :3

User talk:GreenReaper

2010-03-12T03:17:53Z

Zhael:

{{User talk:GreenReaper/Header}}

== [[Sage Nadia]] ==

y'know man, you should really fix sage nadia's article.

I know this site's not known for being a reliable source of neutral point of view, but her article's really off the track. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:70.53.151.146|70.53.151.146]] ([[User talk:70.53.151.146|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/70.53.151.146|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.

thanks and no problem...

-Hydrassas

== What is wrong with Cubist???? ==

Honestly, what is this person's problem? Their retort to my post is baffling to say that least - as if they're on the verge of insanity or something...

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Cubist, Have you ever even considered the the situation might be a result of the "breakdown of diplomacy"? If neither side is willing to lower their sabre, at least part way, things will only continue the way they have been.

Removing his name would not necessarily have to be permanent - whether it remains off the article would be dependant upon Mozdoc's future conduct.

It seems that in this day and age, the only thing being polite and respectful gets a person is ignored, told to f - off, or hit. And THAT is what I believe is going on with Mozdoc - society has kind of taught him the bad habit that unless you are confrontational and ready to resort to force, people will not listen to you.

If we are going to judge Mozdoc on what society as a whole has drummed into him, then we need also judge ourselves.

Do we wish to continue on this downward spiral that civilization is sliding down, or do we wish to TRY to at least slow the degeneration?

All hail VLADUZ - the EBAY IMPALER! 22:14, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Shorter 'Vladuz': "If we don't remove Mozdoc's real name from his Wikifur page, the terrorists win!" Overblown histrionics much, V-boy? I say you're a concern troll, and I say the hell with you. And my vote remains the same. Cubist 11:14, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

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I ask you, is there ANYTHING in my post that could be considered an attack on Cubist? And do you know of any reason why Cubist would choose to launch an attack upon me?

[[User:AnthroSamurai|All hail VLADUZ - the EBAY IMPALER!]] 17:31, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

:The simplest conclusion is that he is being honest - that the reason for his assertion is he believes you to be a [[Wikipedia:Internet troll#Concern troll|concern troll]]. I don't see any reason to suggest that he is implying that you made an attack on him - just that he strongly disagrees with you and suspects your motives. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 18:03, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

QUOTE CUBIST: '''Shorter 'Vladuz': "If we don't remove Mozdoc's real name from his Wikifur page, the terrorists win!" Overblown histrionics much, V-boy?'''

[[User:AnthroSamurai|All hail VLADUZ - the EBAY IMPALER!]] 18:06, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

:Right. He believes that your statements are overblown histronics. The form of his expression might be considered an attack on you, but does not imply that he felt that you attacked ''him'', as you said. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 18:08, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

"A concern troll is a false flag pseudonym created by a user whose point of view is opposed to the one that the user's sockpuppet claims to hold. The concern troll posts in web forums devoted to its declared point of view and attempts to sway the group's actions or opinions while claiming to share their goals, but with professed "concerns". The goal is to sow fear, uncertainty and doubt within the group."

Excuse me a moment... (Falls out of chair laughing).

Ok, so let me get this straight - because I am TRYING to to get both sides to stand down to some degree, Cubist is claiming that I am Mozdoc using a second account???? Oh good lord, not ANOTHER person like "triple W" :)) Why is it anytime someone doesn't agree, they have to claim that the person they disagree with is a "sock"???? That is really pathetic, do you not think?

[[User:AnthroSamurai|All hail VLADUZ - the EBAY IMPALER!]] 18:14, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

:No, that is not the meaning of the term. He appears to believe that you do not actually support the same goals as the wiki, but are trying to subvert them by pretending that you do. For example, if giving people fair treatment was one of the goals of the wiki you might express concerns that Mozdoc is not getting fair treatment, thereby hoping to elicit sympathy from those who would otherwise have a neutral or negative opinion. The trouble with making such assertions is that people's motives are unknown to us without some external form of confirmation, therefore they are hard to prove or disprove. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 18:31, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

The method Cubist used to do it is SO childish, it makes me wonder if I should just put him/her over me knee and spank him/her. :))

Mozdoc needs to learn to control his temper - I can sympathize with that. I also know how most of society can literally drive people like Mozdoc to such actions.

By only using punishment against him, we only further reinforce his behavior. That's not to say we should just give in and remove it to stop threats - just the opposite. HOWEVER, If it is removed, and you and the others make it CLEARLY known that
1 - it CAN be added in again should the threats resume.
2 - that it is being done for fairness sake.

I believe it will have a greater positive impact not only on the conflict but upon Mozdoc himself.

By the way, kindly take a look at my user page ;) :))
That should (hopefully) show we are two different peole - Mozdoc tends to simply open fire, wjile I tend to toy with those who make such pathetic attacks.

[[User:AnthroSamurai|So I am a SOCK?? WHY am I always the last to know these things? :))]] 18:55, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

:As far as I know, the only person who has brought up the concept of you being the same person as Mozdoc is you. The assertions made by Cubist relate to the pursuit of similar goals while professing neutrality, not similar identity.

:I am unsure how much any of us can help Mozdoc. I've talked to him on several occasions and made no long-term progress. The whole reason the page is here in the first place is that counseling hasn't worked to stop the harassment of others in the fandom. As I understand it, its purpose isn't to coerce the subject into good behaviour (because punishment doesn't work), but to ameliorate the effects of his bad behaviour on others. The question is whether or not the real name is a requirement for this. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 19:31, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

== Content Concern ==

Hey dude! I have a suggestion that Wiki Fur needs to be kept PG rated as possible since we don't want people offended by nude and yiff images. I have to change an image from one of the articles here. Remember you have furries going to this site from all over the world and we need to respect them as much as we can. [[User:ChuongChoSoi|ChuongChoSoi]] 18:02, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

:Hello Chuong. [[WikiFur:What WikiFur is not#WikiFur is not censored for the protection of minors|WikiFur policy]] (like [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not censored|Wikipedia's policy]]) is that our content may be of any rating because of the variety of topics within the fandom. There are many topics of a mature nature, and some mature elements within other topic. We appreciate that there are differences in morals around the world, but we would rather not censor ourselves just to fit the more restrictive societies.

:Nevertheless, I thank you for changing the picture, not because the original picture was naked, but because I believe it is a better (more accurate) depiction of fat furs. That said, you do not appear to be the copyright holder, so I must ask you - did you obtain permission to use it from the author, [http://gokutothez.deviantart.com/ gokutothez]? If we are not talking about the specific character, it is not fair for us to use it without permission. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 18:22, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

== Sage Nadia again ==

Why are things so slow around here? her article's been tagged as being a pile of biased shit (my own words) and yet any edit gets reverted to this steaming pile of turd. what's going on with you?

:The page is not protected. If you have a problem with it, I suggest you edit it yourself - and [http://en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=Sage_Nadia&action=history recent edits] do not demonstrate the reversions that you claim. I am [[WikiFur:Moving hosts|somewhat preoccupied]] at the moment and cannot guarantee to give it any significant time in the near future. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 17:16, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

== Entry: Thaily ==

Greetings Mr.GreenReaper,

I am writing this on behalf of Thaily Brimstone, her page, [[Thaily Brimstone]] has been restored. Could you please remove this and lock it down. She does not wish to have any article about her on this site.

Thank you for your understanding,

PeglaSkunk

:Please, call me Green. ;-)
:I have in fact just done this, after a conversation with Thaily over ICQ to clarify her intentions. The main issue was the percieved non-neutrality of excluding some pieces of information but not others; we're actually more comfortable with complete exclusion, and it seems so was Thaily, so everyone's happy. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 08:22, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

== Assistance requested in adding "Rukario" to the list of fursuiters. ==

Good Evening GreenReaper:

I am looking for assistance in adding "Rukario" to the list of clickable fursuit links on Wikifur under the heading of "fursuit".

Any assistance that you can provide would be greatly apprecriated.

I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Prosperous Regards,

[[User:Rukario|Rukario]] 23:21, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

:Hello Rukario - I moved the [[Rukario|page about you]] to the main namespace, and added the necessary categories. You should appear in [[:Category:Fursuiters]] now. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 02:02, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

==message from RVDDP2501 - logged in==

Hey GreenReaper, I'm sorry to bother you but something has been bugging me the last couple of days, I can never stay logged in on wikifur, everytime I revisit the site, I have to log back in and I can't figure out why? please let me know what is happening, thank you - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 02:27, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

:Something to do with your browser? You could try clearing out the cookies for wikia.com to see if that is the problem. They might have changed something on their end, though. I've not seen that problem recently myself. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 02:31, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

== Admissibility of [[Happy Feet]]-related articles ==

Hello,

When {{u|Higgs Raccoon}} created [http://en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=Diti&oldid=206809 this article] about me, I was pleased, of course. This event lead me to think more of the concept of this wiki, and it is actually very good. I now want to contribute on it as much as I do on Wikipedia.

I just wanted to know, since {{u|Higgs Raccoon}} wikified the word [[Happy Feet]], if we were allowed:
# To make an article about the [http://penguins.wikia.com/wiki/Happy_Feet_Fan_Forum Happy Feet Fan Forum], constituted by some furs, and perhaps more than we know. This page is under the GFDL as well, can I copy some informations from it? Where do the authors need to be credited? Talk page or article page?
# To put gigantic informations about this movie, a sort of analysis, and its application to the [[Furry fandom|fandom]]? Can we upload pictures, using the fair use act?

Thanks for your upcoming replies! :) [[User:Diti|Diti]] ([[User talk:Diti|talk to the penguin]]) 14:43, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

:There's basically two options for the forum - either create [[Happy Feet]] and make the forum a subsection of that, or create [[Happy Feet Fan Forum]]. The normal thing to do is the latter - have a separate article for the forum. I would suggest tightening the language in the history section a little, though. It should concentrate on the facts, not subjective statements like "grew quickly" (how quickly?). The talk page should mention and link to the prior article.

:We tend not to do really huge articles about commercial works because Wikipedia does it better than us. We are not created to compete with them in their field of expertise - we would rather readers and editors went there instead. Therefore, what I would recommend is to make an article with an overview of the movie, but which concentrates ''specifically'' on the usage of Happy Feet within the furry fandom (which Wikipedia is not likely to cover), and then point people to [[Wikipedia:Happy Feet|Wikipedia's article]] in the "See also" section. Fair use is fine. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 01:04, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

== Blacklisted URL Causing Problems with Reverting Vandal Edit. ==

The Edit at [http://en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=God_Hates_Furries&diff=209021&oldid=201069 http://en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=God_Hates_Furries&diff=209021&oldid=201069] shows blatant vandalism and was reported by my bot as made by a blacklisted user. The problem is there is a URL in the revert that is listed as one of Wikia blacklisted URLs and is preventing me from making the revert. Since you have the access level can you make the revert? [[User:Sawblade5|Sawblade5]] 10:24, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

:Please disregard this message I got the problem fixed on #wikia on Freenode. [[User:Sawblade5|Sawblade5]] 10:26, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

== Opening the door... ==

Question: How come there is an article on [[centaur]]s but not one on [[mermaid]]s? Recently, I was going to write a article about mermaids and I saw the log about it being deleted because it's "not furry". I don't mean to insult anyone's intelligence here but, a centaur is "top half human, lower half horse" (you know what I mean) and a mermaid is "half woman half fish" I seriously don't see the problem...

Is it because there are [[foxtaur]]s, [[skunktaur]]s and [[chakat]]s, and one would be very hard pressed to find a picture of a furry mermaid? Or because if an article on the mermaid is allowed, it'll open the door for articles on the lamia (half woman half snake), medusa, the harpy and anansi (part man, part spider I think)?

I'm confused... [[User:Tai 1|Tai 1]] 03:27, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

:Did you have a look at the past discussion on [[Talk:Mermaid]]? That might answer some of your questions. -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 19:14, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

I didn't realise that was a talk:Mermaid link...I still don't agree about why there isn't a mermaid entry though...[[User:Tai 1|Tai 1]] 22:51, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

== Toolbox in ru.wikifur.com ==
Hi, GreenReaper. Thank you for creating Wikifur.com itself and Russian language part! Toolbox on the left sidebar has wrong link to Upload file feature. It needs to be changed to [http://ru.wikifur.com/wiki/Служебная:Upload Служебная:Upload].
As for now I have many questions to you about customization of ru.wikifur.com. Which way of contacting you is more appropriate for questions regarding ru.wikifur? (email, IRC, ICQ, maybe ru.talk page, any other) [[User:OckhamTheFox|OckhamTheFox]] 07:11, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
:Hi Ockham! My contact information is [http://greenreaper.livejournal.com/profile here] (make sure you are logged on). Email, IRC and/or ICQ is fine - I am always on the first two if awake. As for the images, the plan had been to upload all new images to the pool wiki, so that they could be used on all languages (like Wikimedia Commons) - but if you think that is not going to work I can change the link back. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])
One shared file repository is a good idea for saving server drive space. But motivation of anon users to register is lowered since no more extra feature of uploading files available. Ok, so be it. The second problem is russification of WikiFur namespace. ВикиФур: is counted like articles and may appear in Random articles. For example ru.wikipedia Википедия: is counted the same as in en.wikipedia Wikipedia:. [[User:OckhamTheFox|OckhamTheFox]] 15:54, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
:Honestly, the disk space is not so important as the time. It takes work to translate a page. If you have to upload all of the images in it as well, that is more work. I would like to avoid that work for most images. People still need to register to use the image pool (but we would like to make it be just one registration for all WikiFur in the near future). If there is any interface text that needs to be changed on the pool wiki to help Russian contributors, I would be glad to do so. Images can still be uploaded locally by going directly to Special:Upload.
:The problem with ВикиФур: is that ВикиФур was not the name of the project namespace. WikiFur was, because that was the site name, and by default the site name is the name of the project namespace. I have changed the name of the site to ВикиФур and adjusted the database so that the pages already created are in the project namespace rather than the main namespace. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 18:18, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

== Google Analytics ==

I would have Google Analytics in my wikia wiki ([[:w:c:ilercavonia|Ilercavònia]]), what can I do? Can you help me, please??? Thank you very much! [[Usuari:Ebrenc| → ebrenc]] 10:51, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
:The thing to do is probably to ask community@wikia.com to enable the additional Analytics account for the wiki. You should set up an Analytics account and tell them the user ID that needs to be used, and the wiki that it is to be on. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 14:33, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

== Article deletion ==

I was wondering if you could delete [[User:Nekonaru Letao]] and [[Nekonaru Letao]]. I don't really want/need them anymore, and I'm trying to cut down the amount of information about me. If I just edit it out, it can be found in previous versions, but if it's deleted, then it's a bit harder to find.

[[User:Nekonaru Letao|Nekonaru Letao]] 18:27, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
:I can help you with this. Your User page is your area so it can be handled how you like. Your article can be handled under the [[WikiFur:PE|personal exclusion]] policy. If you change your mind, or a lesser exclusion would be acceptable(for instance, excluding the real name only), let any admin know. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 18:33, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

== People blanking own articles - explanation template? ==

Hey there GreenReaper,

I just wanted to ask one thing: I think we all know that many people often just blank their own articles, either not knowing or not caring about exclusions. As far as I know this behavior is not really wanted by anyone of us, thus my question here: As those people have to be told about the possibility of an exclusion after they blanked their article without knowing, it is always somehow necessary to tell them, explain and direct them to the correct pages. so, is there maybe any template containing this informations, that could just be added to a user's talkpage AFTER they tried blanking their own article? This would make explaining easier and much faster I guess.
I think that'd be a nice idea, just as a suggestion of mine. Have a nice day, greetings, [[User:RealZero|RealZero]] 07:16, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

:I don't think there is one at this time. You're welcome to start one, and add it to [[WikiFur:Templates]]! Just remember, it can be a good idea to personalize the information and often it's better to try and follow up with them directly rather than leaving a note on their talk page. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 07:23, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

== Finding all pages linking to an article ==

Hey there, just another question from me. I know that, of course, it's important to change all links if you moved an article to a new name so everything keeps working fine. Thus my question: Is is somehow possible to see all pages linking to a specific article, like it is shown at uploaded pictures? Or which way can this be handled otherwise, as I think just searching for the corresponding word in the article search is not working very well. Thanks for your answer in advance. Greetings, [[User:RealZero|RealZero]] 11:36, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
:Hi, RealZero. The toolbox on the left side of the page should have What links here. It leads to http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/User_talk:GreenReaper and should work for any page--just put that page name after the final slash. -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 18:52, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

::Ahh, stupid me proved his blindness again I guess. Thanks very much for the answer *bows*. Greetings, [[User:RealZero|RealZero]] 19:39, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

== file-template ==

The german version of the file-upload -page mentions a template named
"Dateiinfo" to be used. That template does not exist and it is strange to find one with a german name here.
Could this be a mistake my owolf, trying to add it to de.furry.wikia.com instead? --[[User:Suran|Suran]] 07:31, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

:It is odd . . . that page was not created by any user, but instead has been set as the default for that message in German on all wikis. In fact, it is incorrect in several ways (for example, it is not just free images that should be uploaded). If you can to translate the [[MediaWiki:Uploadtext|English one]], I would be glad to put that on instead. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 07:37, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

::I added a translation to my talk-page. --[[User:Suran|Suran]] 07:56, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

== ru.wikifur ==
Registered =^.^=
# can I has admeen rollez plz? :))
# interwiki works from ru to en but not the other way?
# how do we transfer images from here to commons? There are quite a few that we need to share. -- [[User:Wesha|Wesha]] 13:24, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
:I also have this question regarding file transfert on WikiFur Commons (how do we name this website, by the way?). Is that possible to keep '''image''' history while transferring? Also, what about '''page''' history, that we have to ''export'' then ''import'' (which requires sysop rights on Commons) to not to violate GFDL license? [[User:Diti|Diti]] ([[User talk:Diti|talk to the penguin]]) 14:14, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
:#Yes, just be careful with them. No running with scissors!
:#<s>It does for now, yes. I will ask. In the worst case, we can fix it up fairly easily with [[metawikipedia:pywikipediabot|pywikipediabot]] at a later date.</s> es: and ru: have now been added on furry.wikia.com. I will be using [[User:ReaperBot]] to apply interwiki links.
:#I recommend using pywikipediabot's [[metawikipedia:imagetransfer.py|imagetransfer.py]] using [http://pool.wikifur.com/wiki/WikiFur:Wikifur-family.py wikifur-family.py]. It adds a digest of page history for GFDL compliance. I have enabled sysop access, though you may create a bot account if you prefer (let me know and I will add it to the bot group).
:Right now, it is called the pool wiki, or the shared image wiki. There has also been a suggestion of calling it the furpile, though I am unsure whether that would work or not. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 14:42, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

==request from RVDDP2501 - name change==

Hey GreenReaper, i'm sorry to bother you but I was wondering if you could change a article name for me, can you change the 'Eve' article - http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Eve - to 'Eve Mahn' - http://www.furaffinity.net/view/1635852/ - I'll be updating the picture shortly, thank you :) - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 12:08, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

:Sure, done. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 12:18, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

::Thank you :) - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 12:19, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

== Polish wikifur ==

Simple question. What i have to do to lunch a polish version of wikifur?

:''Handled in chat. For anyone else interested in starting a new language, just grab me in #wikifur or otherwise get in contact and we can sort it out.'' --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 22:27, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

В моей стране, вы будете здесь, чтобы сделать этот сайт [[Special:Contributions/94.117.88.218|94.117.88.218]] 21:41, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

:Well, we already have a [[:ru:|Russian WikiFur]]. Fortunately there are people who live there who are helping to make it. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 21:46, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

== /index.php? ==

Thanks for spotting that redirect problem - you're right that fullurl should have been used, but I've also fixed our .htaccess files so it shouldn't happen again. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 02:39, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
:Of course, that won't be necessary when the move is complete - in fact I think it will have to be undone then. So was it really necessary? --[[User:Fibonacci|Fibonacci]] 03:54, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
::Maybe not, but I said it would work before and after the move, and I like to keep my promises about such things. Plus, it only took a few minutes. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 08:46, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

== Inserted redirects to templates instead of regular template. ==

Hey there GreenReaper,
I have a question regarding templates in articles: 
Many articles, like for example [[Gathering of the Gargoyles]] have some kind of redirect-text to a template in them, in this case for the inappropriate template, instead of the actual template "image". Is this some kind of error and should be changed if one comes across them, or does this actually has some kind of sense? Thanks in advance for your answer, I hope I haven't missed anything obvious again. Greetings, [[User:RealZero|RealZero]] 15:53, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

:{{tl|Appropriate}} was moved to {{tl|Inappropriate}} without changing the template pages which redirected to {{tl|Appropriate}} as well. Templates only follow redirects once. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 21:45, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

== [[:es:Central WikiFur|Central WikiFur]] ==

There are almost [[:es:Special:Longpages|150 articles]] on the wiki right now - are any of them good enough to show or link on the front page? You could look at how the other wikis have done it; there are many ways. [[:es:Usuario:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]] 09:50 9 nov 2008 (UTC)

:I'm working on the new design of the front page. I'm trying to take the best from the Russian model and apply it to the English model (the fact that I don't know Russian is not stopping me). --[[User:Fibonacci|Fibonacci]] 21:41, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

==?==
Was the cake is a lie the same dude from wikia that was vandalising Charitwo's user page? [[User:GroceryBag|G]][[User Talk:GroceryBag|B]] 21:05, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

:All signs point to yes. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 21:14, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

How about reconsidering me or just flat out removing and getting rid of the entire article about me? I'm sick of being a part of WikiFur, I've told you countless times that I do not want my name on here, please remove me.

--Mozdoc

==SVG==
What version of ImageMagick is installed on the WikiFur servers? I just tried to rasterize http://pool.wikifur.com/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Argentina.svg locally with ImageMagick 6.3.7 and it works like a charm. --[[User:Fibonacci|Fibonacci]] 03:52, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

:Version: ImageMagick 6.4.4 2008-10-21 Q16 http://www.imagemagick.org Copyright: Copyright (C) 1999-2008 ImageMagick Studio LLC. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 11:04, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

::Turns out my local install of ImageMagick was using the rsvg libraries. So that's the reason the conversion worked fine.
::I just tried a locally-compiled version on some flags, and found that most do not render correctly (except very simple ones, such as the [[wikipedia:Commons:Image:Flag of Italy.svg|flag of Italy]]). Should I upload correctly-rendered PNG flags instead of the SVG files? --[[User:Fibonacci|Fibonacci]] 02:35, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

:::Would probably be the easiest solution. Rendered versions can be lifted from Wikipedia's previews. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 02:55, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

== hay ==

what's up

i went to this link: http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/User:GreenReaper

and it gave me this:

"Error 503 Service Unavailable

Service Unavailable
Guru Meditation:

XID: 401948741
Varnish"

;_;

:Yeah, it does that sometimes. Wikia's caching software is still slightly unstable. Try forcing your browser to refresh the page. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 02:31, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

::ok cool thx it works now i can see --entitythatwrotethemessage

== Greeting ==

Hi! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Ddevore|Ddevore]] ([[User talk:Ddevore|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ddevore|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.

:Welcome! :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 00:48, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

== DNP Request ==

Hello Greenreaper, I understand you are in charge of this website. I wish to have my entry (under the alter ego "BullGator") deleted, locked and added to your site's "DNP" equivalent due to a pair of trolls who are continuing to vandalise the entry. As my involvement in the furry community has now evolved to virtual zero and I have no interest in childish edit wars, I look forward to instructions as to how a DNP request is to be formally undertaken.
[[User:BullGator|BullGator]] 09:22, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

:I have posted the exclusion request on the talk page, and will perform the exclusion proper within 24 hours unless further debate arises. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 01:49, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

== Automatic spam filter blocking edit ==

Hey there Green Reaper, 
I wanted to edit the article [[Furry Hosting]] and change the links at the bottom so that they actually link to the website. The problem here is, that the wiki's automated spam filter blocks the given URL. Could you somehow link the links or tell me what to do about this? Thanks in advance, greetings [[User:RealZero|RealZero]] 22:44, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

:I've added it to [[MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist|the whitelist]] and edited the page. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 22:51, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

== Featured picture ==

Darn you Reaper! I was just editing that! Now I know what it feels like to be you! {{:User:Robomilk/sig}} 01:21, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

== Dill Eat my page ==

Hello. I am Hamsterchan. Or hamster...or thegreathamster...or Sabbath Da Frog....I would really appreciate if you could delete "Sabbath Da Frog"'s page, please. Its no longer desired. Any other links I made to my comics needs to go, too. I'm sure you need the bandwidth. Thank you. -[[User:Hamsterchan|Hamsterchan]]

:''Responded in email''. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 08:52, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

== Frida Åhman Article ==

Greetings. I tried to remove my article, as I no longer wish to be on this site, but it got reverted. Could you please exculde me? I haven't been active in the fandom for a very long time, and probably won't be any time soon. [[User:Gnistra|Gnistra]] 12:35, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
:Done, much belatedly. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 19:06, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

==Happy Holidays!==
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! [[User:Fangusu|Fangusu]] 15:00, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

== Pool not working? ==

See my change: [[Love_Can_Be_Different]]. Worked in RU but not here... -- [[User:Wesha|Wesha]] 00:30, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

:That is because the pool is not used by Wikia-hosted wikis. You must upload the image here as well. This limitation will only be removed once migration has been completed. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 03:14, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

:: Also, stuff from Wikicommons does properly show on Pool, but not on RU? -- [[User:Wesha|Wesha]] 15:25, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

:::Not really sure where you got that idea. It shouldn't show up anywhere, because we're not linked to Wikimedia Commons. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 05:16, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

:::: Oh I got it. Somebody helpfully uploaded Image:Red copyright.svg from commons to here... I was wondering because my [[:Template:Message box]] designs from wiki* started working here magically... But! The main question was: why copyright image shows on http://pool.wikifur.com/wiki/Image:Simba_pic.jpg and not on http://ru.wikifur.com/wiki/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%BE%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5:Simba_pic.jpg ? The image is in the pool, so it puzzles me... -- [[User:Wesha|Wesha]] 15:43, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

::::: Well, it does show up for me. :-) Maybe you need to force a refresh/clear cache? --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 15:50, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

:::::: Again, you sure the '''red ©''' shows in the message box on http://ru.wikifur.com/wiki/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%BE%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5:Simba_pic.jpg ? Doesn't for me, and I tried it in IE and it turns out it tries to get http://ru.wikifur.com/w/images/thumb/1/1d/Red_copyright.svg/60px-Red_copyright.svg'''.png''' -- which is weird... -- [[User:Wesha|Wesha]] 15:56, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

::::::: Ah, I see what you mean. No, it is not visible, the template is pointing to a local URL (that's the thumbnail for the image). Looks like a MediaWiki bug. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 16:04, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

:::::::: So can you please investigate? I believe it works on wikipedia cluster. -- [[User:Wesha|Wesha]] 16:29, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

== Message From RVDDP2501 - Extinctioners protection ==

Hey GreenReaper, I'm sorry if this may seem overboard but I was wondering if it would be possible to try and protect the Extinctioners wiki article as I have just learned in recent hours that everything extinctioners as been 'attacked' by a hacker(s), everything from Yahoo groups being deleated to Shawntae Howard's own FA & DA acounts being wiped clean. I hope I don;t come across as acting paranoid but from the looks of things, it seems some one is gunning for Extinctioners and the wiki article could be a target, you can read the report/forum on FA here - http://forums.furaffinity.net/showthread.php?t=35514 - Please let me know what you feel should be done, thank you and take care - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 19:39, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
:Ah ok I see, thanks, I guess I was a little worried that if someone could hack their way into FA, DA and the yahoo groups and mess around to the extent they did, they could do something permanent here as well, I guess I was a little jumpy, thanks again and take care - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 21:58, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

== Help with image ==

Hi there,

I uploaded a few images of my fursuits, but didn't realize under after I'd done it that "rat.jpg" and "panther.jpg" was far too general a file name - is there any way to change the names? Or, is there any way to delete these files so I can re-upload them with more appropriate names?

Also, I hope this is where I'm supposed to ask this, I'm not very wiki-savvy.

Thanks,
--[[User:Wggthegnoll|Wgg the Gnoll]] 18:37, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

:Sure, I've deleted those for you. There's no way to move images at this time, although I understand that functionality is being developed. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 20:10, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

== Webring ==

Hi,

Please advise why you dumped my Webring code. I put it back, because I thought it was a great idea to have the Hyper Police page in the Hyper Police Ring. I didn't even know that this place existed until I did a Hyper Police search and I am sure that there are lots of others that don't know about it either, so a Webring is a great way to bring more traffic here. I hope you will let me keep it here. Also, I have seen other Webrings on here.

Thank you,

--[[User:Noriko Mori|Noriko Mori]] 03:58, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

:A webring is not useful for a wiki article on a topic because it is basically a replacement for a set of links. These links should instead be placed in the article's external links section of the article if they are of sufficient relevance and contain useful information, and not linked at all if they are not.

:Webrings were great for finding relevant sites ten years ago. They're pretty much redundant with search, now. If you find one on here, you are welcome to replace it with specific links to useful websites on the ring. We're not interested in being part of any. If websites find us useful, they're welcome to link directly if they wish.

:We do cover them at [[:Category:Web rings]], but only because the more long-running webrings have become valid encyclopedic topics by themselves. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 04:13, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Hi,

Thank you for your reply.

I have been involved with Webring ever since its inception and I find it quite insulting of you to put down all my hard work with them like that. I run some 40 rings, myself and have lots of friends there. I feel very sad that you don't welcome us here...

--[[User:Noriko Mori|Noriko Mori]] 04:23, 11 March 2009 (UTC)Noriko

:I'm sorry, but it is my honest opinion. We're here to provide information. A webring that you just created provides no additional value over direct links to the relevant sites. It is therefore redundant and so was removed from the article.

:I also feel it is inappropriate for us to be part of webrings that relate to our article content, as it implicitly promotes a particular group of websites related to that topic. We do not participate in link exchanges or banner trading either. The links we provide are based solely on the quality of the sites' content, and are not for sale or exchange. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 05:32, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

== RL name linked against noted wishes ==

Sebkha apparently put my truename on and it redirects to Zjonni. The notes on Zjonni expressly say I don't want that, but it appears this was done a month before the do-not-want note and not caught when I put the note up. I can edit the redirect page, but cannot apparently, erase it. Can you kindly make it go away?

Thanks!

Feel free to mail me if you aren't sure which page I am talking about.

:It has been removed. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 17:43, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

==Frank Gembeck==

I think we need a second opinion on some edits to [[Frank Gembeck]] - see discussion in [[User talk:86.164.155.151]]. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 17:44, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
:We have removed similar law enforcement not deemed furry in the past (I just wipe [[Sibe]] ones, as noted by the original op). Some kind of notice of his "departure" from the fandom and the law should be noted - [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 04:32, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
::FYI... The discussion in question has been moved to [[Talk:Frank Gembeck]]. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 16:16, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

== Page removal ==

Hello, I'd like for you to please remove http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/A%C3%AFda_de_Ridder

I do no longer draw furries or am associated with the fandom, so please remove me.

Thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:77.166.162.214|77.166.162.214]] ([[User talk:77.166.162.214|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/77.166.162.214|contribs]]) .

:''Confirming identity via email.'' --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 00:48, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

== Another name ? ==

Hello GreenReaper.
I'm Kiba the Fox, an user from the french-speaking WikiFur, and a member of Francefurs. I'd like to change my WikiFur nickname, would it be possible ?

[[User:Kiba the Fox|Kiba the Fox]] 08:59, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

:Hi Kiba! It is not possible for me to change your user nickname on Wikia-hosted wikis. However, you can create another account and then put <nowiki>#REDIRECT [[User:Your new name]]</nowiki> on it to direct people to that account. Bear in mind that usernames are shared through all wikia.com sites, so your new name will need to be distinctive. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 09:01, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
: Okay, I've just created my new account. Thanks ! ;)
[[User:Benjamin Foxtails|Benjamin Foxtails]] 09:10, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

== thanks :) ==

Thanks ^^ i look forward to talking to you more.

== Someone edited page ==

Heys,

I'm just a little concerned about something, somebody edited my age with information i wish to remain privet. Their name was GeckoGecko, if you could please see into helping me not have this happen again it would be very much appreciated!

Thanks so much, Bloodfox.

== Someone edited page ==

Heys, I'm just a little concerned about something, somebody edited my age with information i wish to remain privet. Their name was GeckoGecko, if you could please see into helping me not have this happen again it would be very much appreciated!
Thanks so much, Bloodfox.

:I'll have a chat with them . . . --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 05:39, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

== thanks :) ==

Thankyou ^^

== Suspicious new account activity ==

There have been several recent new user accounts with names that look fishy to me, and I'd suggest being on our guard that their originator may be setting up to spam the site or launch a bot attack. Do you have the ability to run an IP trace on their origins? Do you think it would be overreacting to preemptively block them?

The accounts in question:
*{{user|CaoloRicro}}
*{{user|SitboDarle}}
*{{user|DomgeTcaer}}
*{{user|CzelbOcoue}}
*{{user|OucaaClicb}}
*{{user|LaeltOuelr}}
*{{user|RolorLiboc}}
*{{user|LiccoErdel}}
*{{user|DeldeLouli}}
*{{user|LetocAtatr}}
*{{user|ChizeLmonc}}
*{{user|RaczeLlido}}
*{{user|TacamOnerd}}
*{{user|AlgetDomno}}
*{{user|OlolaRacca}}
*{{user|NoeltLinod}}

--[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 16:38, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

:Several people have mentioned this now. I'll check it out. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 16:57, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

::Sounds good. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 17:15, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

:::Multiple registrations and proxies. Block'd. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 17:25, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

::::There seem to be quite a lot of non-active, new account creations in May, specially in the last two weeks - [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 23:37, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

It looks like we have some more coming in. Could you run Checkuser on these guys?:
*{{user|MontaOuouc}}
*{{user|CadomChino}}
*{{user|VizelBocac}}

--[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 21:08, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

:I'll contact the necessary people at Wikia, as that requires staff access. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 21:13, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
:Same user agent, and an unusual one. Blocked. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 03:16, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

== Zillercon 10 ==

you might could add zillercon 10 to the list on the mainpage. ;) -- ><)))°>

:Done! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 19:19, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

*giggle*.... its in austria. not in australia. thats a slightly difference of 10000 miles. :)

:Well, if they are so different they should not be named so similarly! :-p --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 19:45, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

== Delete page ==

Hello, My name is Jarett Humphrey. I am a board of director for Helping Pawz. A page has been added to WikkiFur with out our permission and I need it to be deleted. Helpiing Pawz is not a furry group and has no furry association. Any help in this matter is greatly appreciated. Please reply to me by e-mail as I do not have a wikkifur page.

Jarett
''email address removed''

:''Replying by email. Readers should note that the advance permission of subjects is neither sought nor required for WikiFur articles, particularly for public non-profit organizations.'' --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 05:58, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

:: ''Helpiing Pawz ... has no furry association.''
:: What nonsense. Many (if not all) of the performers are members of the furry fandom ([[Kodi_(Canada)|1]], [[Orwin|2]], [[Thumper|3]], [[Lace Aurora|4]], [[Aphinity|5]], etc), and they have worn their costumes at several furry conventions.--[[User:Higgs Raccoon|Higgs Raccoon]] 14:23, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

:::The point does remain that they're allowed to have themselves excluded, though, Higgs. Just like lots of other furs and groups have requested, But, just throwing that out there. --[[User:IanKeith|IanKeith]] 03:35, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

::::There is a big difference between an individual and a registered association. Note also that the people making the edits to our articles about the performers did not appear to be the individuals concerned, but a representative of the association, who is not permitted to assert any exclusion rights for those pages. I think we have since found an option that may satisfy them, though; see the [[Talk:Helping Pawz|relevant talk page]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 03:41, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

== Page: [[Raykese]] ==

Hey, GR. I tried undoing a blanking on the page [[Raykese]], suggesting that user Slicktified contact an admin about getting it removed instead. He instead re-blanked the page. Is there something we can do about this? --[[User:IanKeith|IanKeith]] 03:33, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

:I deleted the page because it was already marked as potentially inappropriate and I agreed. To answer the more general question, we'll be getting [[mediawikiwiki:Extension:AbuseFilter|AbuseFilter]] shortly that should allow an automated response to that kind of action. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 03:44, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

== Innacuracy posted by a troll ==

There is a person who posted a paragraph that needs refuted for inaccuracy. This person is a troll from YouTube that several times has twisted peoples words and used them out of context. The link to the user's page (which contains the info in question) is furry.wikia.com/wiki/Paxil_rose

As a side note i need to state that paxilrose is a banned youtube troll who would argue with furries for months. His original account was youtube.com/user/paxilrose. If you check that link you will see he was put on permanent suspension. Also paxilrose isn't even a furry, so why should he have a wikifur page anyway unless it was strictly to talk just about him and nobody else? This isn't TrollWiki or ED. Accuracy and Cleanness exist here.

The middle paragraph about wolfeedarkfang, is inaccurate. Heres several things i can find wrong with it just by glancing.

"a profile on BeastForum was found belonging to Wolfee Darkfang"
This was never proven. He wishes it was though, and will say and do anything to make it look like it.

"Wolfee created various sockpuppet accounts"
This was also never proven. You can't tell who is who on the internet without seeing their faces. The problem here is he wants it to look like anyone who sticks up for me on YouTube is a fake so that it looks like i have no real supporters in his drama.

A little commentary. This doesn't have to account for anything but I want to quote this.
"paxilrose joined Fur Affinity forums to regal furries with tales of his exploits and to offer warnings to those who may take the furry fandom too serious"
I've been told throughout the years by other furs that FAF has been taken over by trolls for some time. So a troll goes to a furry forum taken over by trolls to get the furries to stop being trolled while also trolling furries himself in the past... Sounds like more of the same old stuff. >.<

[[User:Wolfeedarkfang|wolfeedarkfang]] 21:16, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

:The appropriate venue for this conversation is [[Talk:Paxil rose]]. I suggest you post comments there. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 21:21, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

I find Darkfangs request to be out of line. As stated, this is a fairly well known scandal involving him, and thus is as relevant as the Furry War page. The pictures are accurate accounts of events (the profile and admission, respectively) and I will point out Darkfangs own user page for additional information, since he's written quite a bit on the subject himself with far less references. Given that this is openly a user edited wiki, I strongly disagree that "unauthorized" use of his name is even an issue.

I also want to cite the user page of the furry known as Sibe. This individual has quite a negative reputation based on his actions, yet somehow these actions are deemed relevant enough to warrant being added to his page. The same standards should be held for Wolfee Darkfang. I, however, am at least giving him the privilege of not having it on his primary page (though if Sibe's antics are somehow important enough to be allowed on his page, I think the same should go for Darkfang).

If relevance to my page is the only cocnern, I'd be more than happy to make a new page for it. However, the admins of this site should make themselves clear whether this is an issue of relevance in regards to certain pages, or whether they believe some controversial members actions are acceptable material to mention and others are not and why they think that is. --Paxilrose 16:00, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

The point is the article needs to be strictly about you, and not me. I do not wissh information to be here about me unless i authorize it's presence. especially when it's written by a known troll who has it out for me.
[[User:Wolfeedarkfang|wolfeedarkfang]] 17:53, 28 June 2009 (UTC)Wolfeedarkfang

Excuse me Mr Fang, but I do believe you yourself use your page to defame "furry haters" Empiroqkriticizmus and Jumpacliff2. I assume you got their permission before putting them there?

Other than that, I stand by my original statements. The sections as relevant as the furry war and far less slanderous than the Sibe article. You know as well as I that I can and will go out and source every other sentence in the article, so inaccuracy isn't the issue either.--[[User:Paxilrose|Paxilrose]] 02:47, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

== User registration IP lookup ==

How does someone with regular admin privs like me look up the IP address that a new user registered from? Or is that a capability that is only available to "super-admins" and wikia support? --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 17:28, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
:On Wikia, the [[metawikipedia:Help:CheckUser|CheckUser]] privilege is reserved to staff. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 17:30, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

==Request to send a private message==

I have something in regards to my "inaccurate" page I believe will help my case, but would like to hand it off to you privately so that it can't be deleted before you get a chance to see if. How would I go about giving this to you?--[[User:Paxilrose|Paxilrose]] 02:52, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

==WikiTrust greenreaper?==

If this is the same person who posted http://code.google.com/p/wikitrust/issues/detail?id=29 [email removed to avoid spam] would like to contact you.
:''Responded via email'' --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 20:22, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

== Returning to WikiFur ==

Hello. A while back I requested to have my name put on the personal exclusion list. I would like to have that removed, so I can re-post my article. No hurry, but thank you for help.
--[[User:Patrickrobbins|Patrickrobbins]] 01:52, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
:''Confirming via registered email account.'' --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 01:55, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

== Reply to "Cut the fluff" ==

Quentin "editor of ANTHRO" Long here. Thank you for looking over ANTHRO and offering suggestions on how to reduce the zine's download time! Alas, three of your five suggestions are out of the question, and one of the remaining two may or may not be fully usable...
:Well, one is a lot better than none! I suspect the first two will be no trouble, and fortunately they would also have the most impact.
Enable GZip compression: If this can be fine-tuned to ''not'' mess with graphics, I like it a lot. Since I make a point of tryna reduce the filesize of graphic images just because, I am unsure how much more "hot air" ''can'' be squoze out of the zine's graphics WITHOUT mucking up the visual quality thereof. Also, it's worth noting that compressing a compressed file tends to yield results ranging from "insignificantly small additional reduction" to "BOOSTED filesize"... Anywho, I will look into this. Regardless of the effects on graphics, ''text'' (such as HTML files) compresses down ''real'' good, so this may be a win no matter what.
:Normally you would scope it to the file types you wanted to cover (e.g. HTML/CSS/JS, and ''not'' any compressed images or other files) - see [http://www.g-loaded.eu/2008/05/10/use-mod_deflate-to-compress-web-content-delivered-by-apache/ here] for an example.
Enable far-future cache control expiry: Sounds interesting, and whatever downsides it may have are, at the very least, highly inobvious. I am unsure how to do this thing (my webhost is GoDaddy, for what that's worth), but I will look into it.
:You could ask them - it's likely that you can add an Apache directive or two to a .htaccess file in the directory concerned (and that's probably the way you'd end up enabling gzip as well). An example of WikiFur's expiry settings:
<LocationMatch ^/favicon\.(ico|png)$>
ExpiresActive On
ExpiresDefault A34560000
</LocationMatch>
Use styled text in place of graphic headers: Not gonna happen. I want my titles to be Avant Garde Bold with seriously tight kerning; given the brute fact that it's a crapshoot whether or not J. Random Websurfer even ''has'' AGB installed on his machine in the first place, let alone whether or not his browser can do letterspacing properly, I think graphic-text titles are the least-worst way to ensure that ''every'' reader gets to see the titles the way said titles are ''supposed'' to be.
:If not for the fact that MSIE uses a proprietary font embedding format instead of plain TrueType/OpenType like everyone does, there would be a less worse way to ensure a reasonable number of reader can see the custom font. In the meantime, [[wikipedia:en:sIFR]] seems to be a neat hack. --<ruby><rb lang="ja">[[User:NekoYasha|猫夜叉]]</rb><rp>「</rp><rt style="font-size:6pt">[[User_talk:NekoYasha|ネコヤシャ]]</rt><rp>」</rp></ruby> 16:36, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Replace graphic elements with CSS: Not gonna happen. CSS works very well indeed whenever it ''does'' work... but when it doesn't, God only knows what you may end up with on your screen. From where I sit, CSS is a crapshoot and I just don't want to roll that pair of dice.
:Fair enough. Just understand the cost - the user has to download all those images. The cost can be reduced by combining images into a CSS sprite and using background-position to specify a portion of it for the image element, but that of course requires that you use CSS.
Convert main logo to PNG: Not gonna happen. One of my standard browsers ''crashes on contact with PNG-format graphics files.'' Yes, this browser is seriously old. If you think I should blow off those readers who ''aren't'' using This Year's Latest And Greatest Browser, well, we're just going to have to agree to disagree, is all.
:I'm confused - are you referring to ''Internet Explorer 4''? The one which [http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp last had a noticeable percentage of users] in 2002? IE6 isn't the best with alpha-blended PNGs (though there are workarounds), but for GIF-replacement you just need to save them as indexed-mode (256-color) PNGs anyway. Sites like Yahoo and Wikipedia (and WikiFur) use such images right on the front page.
:I suggest looking at what browsers your users are actually using - if you have log files, they should be able to provide this information. For this site, IE versions older than IE6 have less than 0.05% of the audience, and all of them are IE5. We get more visits from the PlayStation 3, and I didn't even know that ''had'' a web browser. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 14:21, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

== Tipp ==
I'd be glad to post irc logs of him harssing me and my friends on various networks. He seems to do the same. [[User:RingtailedFox|RingtailedFox]] 17:31, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
:WikiFur is not intended as a primary source. Please post them elsewhere and provide links, perhaps on the talk page associated with the article. Bear in mind that we may have a different idea of what constitutes harassment, especially given that you seem to be attempting to escalate the conflict through your editing. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 17:37, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

: That's not true at all. If you want a wiki based on truth, you may as well mention the truth, no matter how ugly it is. You have articles on [[Sibe]] harassing and trolling others... Tipp is just another in a long line of furs that hate other furs. I'll post the logs on my website, and use those as references. [[User:RingtailedFox|RingtailedFox]] 17:39, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
::Take it to [[Talk:Tipp]] the talk page. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 17:43, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
:: Already done. [[User:RingtailedFox|RingtailedFox]] 17:49, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

== from forza ==
LOL sorry about the size i got carried away!
Can I make a history/story page and link to it from within the wiki page for the character?
:We're not really a story hosting site - and you probably wouldn't want us to be, either, as all the stuff on here is editable. If you really want, you could login and create a page at [[User:Forza Ninetails/History]] (click the link to create it). But what would probably be best is to make it into a story and then post it on somewhere like [[Yiffstar]]/[[Anthrostar]], [[Fur Affinity]] or [[FurRag]], then summarize the events in the story and make a link to it so that people can read more if they want. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 01:21, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
Thanks GreenReaper. I have to go to work in a few minutes but I'll do that tomorrow when I wake up :> thanks for the links!

== from steam ==
Hi I know you get rogue edits on here, and I am sure its a pain cleaning them up, I just wanted to bring up an issue that was half resolved to which I had no idea of.

Either a troll or the guy who uses the same name as me posted all his about him over mine, and I have been cleaned up and given this ugly tag saying my location, now while I understand you need to separate furs to build up the wiki, I do not believe another fur should lay take to a name I have been using since recorded at 12/1/2007 in Second Life but generally before this in real life.

Also it turns out I registered at furaffinity 3 days after him but could only use the name steampunkgears or I would have used steam, I have seen to have been a fur from 2006 in Second Life.

Now generally I take this issue as one of identity fraud and because I have registered here as steam before him and because this wiki is taken as a form of registration on furs and information I want my URL put back to http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Steam not http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Steam_%28United_Kingdom and I would like it locked so only I can edit it.

The URL has been changed into a This is a disambiguation page — a navigational aid which lists pages that might otherwise share the same title. If an article link referred you here, you might want to go back and fix it to point directly to the intended page.

But I do not accept Steam Furrys would use that title and I do not accept that steam the game software needs to be published on a furry wiki the only issue is one of rights and hes proved he has no rights to that name due to trying to force his way in though my page posting about himself.

These are quotes from what he added about himself or what ever.

"Steam is not to be confused with the superior and much more sexy/charming/awesome/origional Steam, who is just all around better than this lion thing. raccoons ftw."

"He however contains Lion tendencies and when needed can stand up for himself, unless confronted by a certain raccoon who has like freaky robot stuff everywhere, whats up with that? Can you even call that a fursona? Damn right you can, cause whos going to argue with a guy who's left nostril can second in use as a mixed drink dispenser? certainly not me. "

4chan?

"The all around better Steam who isnt a lion is a former mod of 4chan from 2005-2007. I know what you're thinking HELL YA LETS GET DRUNK AND FUCK CATS! however unlike the lion, raccoon Steam looks down on such behavior and prefers to drink unsweetened teas and black coffee. Why unsweetened? because raccoon steam had his sweet tastebuds ripped off by a freezer, thats why. wanna fight about it?"

"The other steam owns a fucking bar, a biker bar. You want to mess with a bunch of drunk bikers? yes you do, they arent that bad once you get over the assless chaps."

Is this a troll or the real guy or is this him being retarded? and ego tripping about himself and using another account to do it. To which I see is not banned due to griefing me through my own all ready established profile.

You could also say I am ego tripping but I do not have an ego lol, only a personal fursona I have been building and evolving since before 2006 recorded via sl registration as a fur.

If you can not fulfill this request please do at least see what or who has been forceing all that into my profile with the alt account? because I do not aggree with disrespect like that when he could have left me a message and we could have worked it out.

At this point if it was his IP that edited his stuff in either on an alt or his new profile, this is unacceptable to allow to continue.

The bottom line is I was here before him and if he was using steam before me, I do not accept it was in the tense of a fursona, or he would have been on here before me.

[[User:Steam_(United_Kingdom)|Steam_(United_Kingdom)]]

== Full Control Over MY page ==

I want full and complete control over my page here so that I may be the only one to edit it.

--Mozdoc

== Username Change Request ==

Hiya! You know I've been wanting to do this for quite some time, so here I am. I'd like to change my username to "Softpaw", please :-) -- ''[[User:Softpaw|Natasha Softpaw]]'' ( [[User_talk:Softpaw|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Softpaw|contribs]] ) 09:11, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
:Done. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 11:28, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
::Yay! Thank you so much :-D -- ''[[User:Softpaw|Natasha Softpaw]]'' ( [[User_talk:Softpaw|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Softpaw|contribs]] ) 11:57, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
::Also, may I update my old signatures in my prior Talk posts to reflect the change? I'm not a fan of redirects. -- ''[[User:Softpaw|Natasha Softpaw]]'' ( [[User_talk:Softpaw|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Softpaw|contribs]] ) 15:25, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
:::That's fine as far as I'm concerned. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 15:29, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

== Please merge ==

Please merge Meow of Chita into Meow. >.<
:Already done! :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 04:54, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

== RE: Preview ==

Thanks for the advise =)! I pretty much already click "show preview" before saving what I'm happy with but I make a lot of changes in my editing. Otherwise I'm not sure what you mean by the page history, could you please explain this a little further? I'm new to Wikifur so the more I know the better and it helps to chat with someone who has experience in this =3.

Thanks!

-Wolven Claw
:Each page has its own history - click the "history" tab at the top to see. You can use it to go forwards and backwards in the revisions, seeing what's changed. All changes are listed in the global recent changes linked on the left, and people will often check the revisions that have been made. It's easier to do that if these are all made in one go, as far as possible. If you want some help, I'd suggest dropping into [[Special:IRC|IRC]], as there's usually someone around there. Oh, and you can sign your name with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>, giving a result like this: --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 18:06, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

== Citations for Roma-V ==
Hello, on my page there are certain areas with [citation needed]. How do I change this? Do I need to provide proof of actions, and if so, how can I do that.
Thanks ^.^ —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Roma-V|Roma-V]] ([[User talk:Roma-V|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Roma-V|contribs]]) .
:Well, that's a good question - I'm not sure it's something we'd cover at all unless it had some kind of documented proof, as it's not exactly complimentary. :-) Maybe LJ posts or logs? You can add a reference link like this . . . [continued on talk] --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 03:12, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

== RSS? ==

Hiya! I was trying to update my newsreader for the new Wikifur, only to find that there's no RSS feed here. Will one be added/enabled? And if not, why? -- ''[[User:Softpaw|Natasha Softpaw]]'' ( [[User_talk:Softpaw|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Softpaw|contribs]] ) 15:23, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
:Yes there is. Go to [[Special:Recentchanges]] - they're linked in the sidebar - or just alter your current URLs to have a /w/ at the front. They are not published in every page because the link then takes up space in every page, even when the vast majority of people don't know about it or don't want it. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 15:30, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

== Rollback Privileges/Usergroup ==

Hello again! Sorry for all the messages on your talk page, but this seems to be the most effective way to reach you about Wikifur-related stuff. Anyway, the rollback usergroup doesn't seem to exist, so I no longer have rollback privileges. Thus, I tried to undo some vandalism on the Transformers article, only to find that there's a spam-listed URL, and regular Undo can't be used. -- ''[[User:Softpaw|Natasha Softpaw]]'' ( [[User_talk:Softpaw|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Softpaw|contribs]] ) 07:11, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
:Nice. I've made the group again. Your privileges were transferred, they just weren't active because it doesn't exist. And talk pages are the right place. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 12:16, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

== Contact info ==

Hi. I couldn't find an email address to contact the administrators for this site. Could you please provide me with one? I need to get in touch with you. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Mickel|Mickel]] ([[User talk:Mickel|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Mickel|contribs]]) .
:You can just [[Special:EmailUser/GreenReaper|drop me an email]] if you are logged in with an account that has an email address [[Special:Preferences|set and verified]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 17:32, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

== Camp Feral! and Feral! 2010 ==

Heyas! I'm not very good at this...I created a page with info on Feral! 2010 but am unsure how to add the link to the right-side box with dates from 1998 to 2009...any other advice you could offer regarding updating a page like the Camp Feral! page would be greatly appreciated :) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Potoroo|Potoroo]] ([[User talk:Potoroo|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Potoroo|contribs]]) .
:Hey, Potoroo - welcome to WikiFur! The page to edit is [[Template:Feral]] - you can just copy the last two lines before the footer. In general, if it's <nowiki>{{X}}</nowiki> on the page, you edit <nowiki>[[Template:X]]</nowiki>. If you need any more [[help]], let me know. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 20:56, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

== Message From RVDDP2501 - Extinctioners Image licensing information ==

Hey GreenReaper, I need your help, because of the licensing information useing on the extinctioners image, an RPG magazine or something has gone and used extinctioners images found here onwikifur, i need you help to change the information so that the image are protected and not fair use, all information about this matter can be found here - http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/936790/ - I have spoken to shawntae on FA to which the licensing should be more like this - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Marvelwolverine.jpg - please tell me what I should do, I wish to resolve this matter before it gets any worse, I really need your help on this - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 03:20, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
:OK. I had a chat with the OTRS guys who can see that ticket, and they state that it was a murky "Sure, you have permission to use this on Wikipedia" email. As no license was specified, the original upload under GFDL was invalid, so there is no problem with you removing it. You should go through each of the [http://en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=500&contribs=user&target=RVDDP2501&namespace=6 images you have uploaded] and replace the ConfirmationImageOTRS tag with a fair-use one. You probably want this to be {{tl|fursona}} (or in a few cases {{tl|comic-panel}}). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 04:17, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
:Actually, you do not need to do this. I have set a bot to do it for you. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 04:35, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

::Thank you so much! I have sent a message to Shawntae on FA informing him of your changes, I will let you know what he says and if this hopefully set things right - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 10:44, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

== Second edit not vandalism. ^^ ==

My second edit wasn't vandalism.
Both links in the Chew Fox article linking to the two seperate journal entries on FA have the SAME url.
I saved the URL of the original journal before FA went down.
My edit was simply fixing the URL to the correct one, albeit the posting cannot be accessed anymore. ^^
:Noted, but you still changed it to "9000" when it wasn't. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 03:09, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
::Oh, I just noticed that. The first time was for the laughs, the second time was me editing the article concurrently while you were also reverted the first set of changes and mindlessly ignoring the concurrency error. Sorry about that. ^^;

== Request for Review ==
As it's impossible to leave Spirou a message on his Talk page, and requests for review are being ignored on the article's talk pages, I'll once again point out the [[Forum:Popping_%28Under_revision%29 | draft page]] is now ready for review. —[[User:Xydexx|Xydexx]] 14:53, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

== Thank You and Page Help ==

Thank you so much for helping me with my page (I believe it was you) I really appreciate it and my page looks so much better as a result. I was wondering, though, is there a place that I can go that has the information on how to make the editions that you did? It would be greatly appreciated as I would like to expand my page just a bit, for example, adding subsections and such. Any help you can offer would be great!

...also, if I did this incorrectly, I apologize :( I'm still learning the hang of this and really hope that I haven't somehow botched this up. Apologies in advance if that is the case :(

Thanks a bunch! ^_^ —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:KittMouri|KittMouri]] ([[User talk:KittMouri|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/KittMouri|contribs]]) .

:Sure thing - have a look at the [[Help:Contents|help section]], and in particular the [[Help:Editing|editing]] and [[Help:Furry Book of Style|style guide]]. There are links to more information at the bottom. Oh, and on talk pages, you can sign your posts with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end, like this: --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 20:44, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Oh, thank you so much! I will check these things out and work a bit more on my page! Thank you! *hugs* ... *tries out signature thing*

[[User:KittMouri|KittMouri]] 21:04, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

==Conviction==
User AlmightyTora is intentionally trying to cover up new, important information discovered about him: that he is a convicted pedophile.
This information passes the "non-public figure" and "no posting of personally detrimental yet factual" litmus tests because 1) The information is very public, provided by a governmental website, 2) Due to his activity in conventions, including ones where minors attend, it is very important that individuals are informed about his conviction in order to make sound decisions to limit his possibility of further sexual abuse. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Isopodic|Isopodic]] ([[User talk:Isopodic|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Isopodic|contribs]]) .

:''Responded (generally) on [[Talk:TORA|talk page]].''

==Welcome==

Nice to meet you! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Snyde|Snyde]] ([[User talk:Snyde|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Snyde|contribs]]) .

== heads up: stale official pages ==

I just noticed a few official wikifur pages that still refer to the old wikia host.

Check my edit history for one attempt I made to update things, but the admins will probably need to go through manually and double check. Plus I'm not about to make a habit on messing with important pages.

Just a heads up that there's obsolete information present in official Wikifur documentation.

[[User:Shentino|Shentino]] 03:34, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

:I thought I'd gone through and changed those, but think I missed them because I hadn't set the appropriate search options. Thanks for the heads-up. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 04:02, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

== help with template ==

I followed the directions for the prod subst, using <nowiki>{{subst:prod|reason}}</nowiki> as directed and it spit back an error.

Is the template glitchy or did I goof up?

The attempts were made on the espernet article, if you need to check any logs. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Shentino|Shentino]] ([[User talk:Shentino|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Shentino|contribs]]) .

:I've fixed things up so {{tl|prod}} should now work. It's never really been used that much, in part because "notability" per-se is not generally a concern for WikiFur. We care more about whether or not it has any relevance to furry fandom, and we have a [[WikiFur:About|relatively low limit]] on how much is required. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 04:47, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

== Personal exclusion for Crusader Cat ==

[[Crusader Cat]] has made a request on my user talk page that I'm interpreting as a request for personal exclusion. His is not an obvious case to justify denying the request, but it's certainly a little iffy. What do you think? --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 05:59, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
:I think you should probably open up a discussion on [[Talk:Crusader Cat]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 13:47, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

== self rfd ==

I just spoke with the fur in question, kaoru, and he was not in any condition for me to mention that I had created an article about him. As of right now he isn't even aware of this article's existence and I think he would be very upset if he found out that I was the one that created it.

Since I was the one who created the article in the first place, I was under the impression I could post a prod on it. Nobody else has made any edits anyway.

I suppose I'm upset that this page is apparently sticking around whether I want it to or not just because I had the misfortune of creating it prematurely.

[[User:Shentino|Shentino]] 23:56, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

:That's understandable, but honestly we don't tend to delete articles unless there's no basis for having the topic here. We ''do'' offer exclusion, but as that is an active rejection of information about a certain person, now and in the future, we only offer it as an option to that person.

:Like it says at the bottom, "If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly and redistributed at will, then don't submit it here." If they become aware of its presence, and if they are troubled by it, then they are welcome to contact us at that time. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 23:56, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

::Well, I can't blame you. I need to bite the bullet. If he does get upset enough to go to the trouble of registering here and asking for its removal, I'm probably going to lose him forever. Then again, as cold unforgiving logic reveals, in that case I shouldn't have created it in the first place. Play with fire, get burned.

::I will not discuss this issue any further, since you are clearly not at fault here. I'll do my best to notify him when he's calmed down. [[User:Shentino|Shentino]] 00:02, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

:::In all honesty, I think you're being melodramatic. There is a stub here about a person, which does not even mention their real life name or location. Big deal. :-) This is the Internet! Anyone can start a website about anything. Given that they share their name with a major fictional character who's likely to trump them in any search results, I don't think there's much to be concerned about. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 00:09, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

== message from RVDDP2501 - reporting possible vandalism ==

Hey GreenReaper, I wanted to inform you that a user named Hoppy Bunny had done some changes to several extinctioners articles including the main one, adding all sorts of stupid information including pokemon related content, I have corrected the changes but I was wondering if you could see if this guy is a vandal and figure out what is to be done, thank you - http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Hoppy_Bunny - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 11:14, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

== Request For Review ==
Once again, the [[Popping]] [[Forum:Popping_%28Under_revision%29 | draft page]] is ready for review. In the continued interest of not wasting everyone's time, it'd be really peachy if one of the Admins could finally resolve this long-neglected issue no later than October 24 2009, 11:59 PM EDT —[[User:Xydexx|Xydexx]] 19:35, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

== Request For Personal Exclusion ==

I would like to request a personal exclusion for [[Desiree Mentil]], which I created about myself.
[[User:Desireementil|Desireementil]] 00:50, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
:''Replied via email''. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 01:21, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

== Merging accounts ==

Thank you, that'd be nice to have my accounts merging to "Paul Shepherd" with the space. I think I forgot my password.

Thanks, Paul

== Hello there! ==

Hi thanks for the welcome and editing one or two things I was adding. I'm afraid I might be making a bit of a mess here and there but hopefully it's a more productive than destructive mess. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Iscin|Iscin]] ([[User talk:Iscin|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Iscin|contribs]]) .

:Don't worry - should anything prove destructive, it can always be fixed. That's the power of a wiki. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 00:21, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

== Califur 5 Attendance ==

Referring to [[User_talk:Alohawolf]]

I pulled it out of the reg system, which at the time I had access to. and I dont see any reference of attendance on the livejournal post you linked to. Califur never officially announced attendance. --[[User:Alohawolf|Alohawolf]] 15:27, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

== slander ==

dragoneer keep editing Alin_ravens wiki page with lies and slander but no ones stopping him please have him refrain from posting lies and doctored e-mail message links to that page because its completely deformation of charterer and he would like it to stop

== Use of noindex ==

Could you take a look at [[Talk:KE Films]] please? I'd like to get a second opinion before acting on a suggestion. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 20:45, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

== Request for Deletion ==

Hi, both me [name removed] and [name removed] got our pages added without any permission, and we don't like to be listed on this site by our real names. This is a privacy concern. Could you please delete both our pages, and prevent it from happening again by adding one of those notices? Thanks in advance.
:I will contact you both directly regarding this; exclusion requires confirmation, and cannot normally be requested by third parties. In your case, please check your dA notes shortly. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 23:09, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

== Front site hacking *SOLVED*. ==

<strike>The front site has been hacked with the front page images having been replaced with pornographic pictures of women engaging in Bestiality (REAL pictures mind you). I tired reverting them back but it wont work. Please remove them and discipline the user responsible of putting them there.</strike>

EDIT: NM. Looks like someone already took care of it. Please disregard this message. And thanks to whoever got em!

- Shot King.
:They've already been deleted, and the user blocked, but thanks for the note and the earlier revert. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 01:27, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

== Spam whitelist request. ==

I attempted to add a link to my user page to a server I run for Teamspeak and Open Canvas. The edit was rejected because of spam filters flagging the link as spam. The link is indigo.servegame.com. If you would be so kind as to add a filter to allow this on my page, I would appreciate it. :) [[User:Sergeant|Sergeant]] 18:09, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
:Sure, give it a go now. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 22:44, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

== Server Location of Wikifur ==

I have made an update to [[WikiFur:About]] and found the line in the '''Rating Section''': "Please ensure that anything you add is within the law of the United States and the state of Florida". Since I knew that is possibly outdated information as the Servers are no longer hosted on Wikia's Servers in Florida and now are hosted by Timduru, I decided to go make a whois lookup on Wikifur.com and found at [http://whois.domaintools.com/wikifur.com http://whois.domaintools.com/wikifur.com] (Under Server Stats) that the server is in Dallas, Texas. So I went ahead and changed that line to read Texas instead of Florida. My edit history showing the change is at [http://en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=WikiFur%3AAbout&diff=282868&oldid=275168 http://en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=WikiFur%3AAbout&diff=282868&oldid=275168]. Please correct me if I was wrong on the edit, but I am sure it's correct. [[User:Sawblade5|Sawblade5]] 11:21, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
:Thank you for the update; the WikiFur server is indeed located in Texas. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 18:11, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

== Deleting vanity articles written by others. ==

I'm just curious here...

What exactly does someone need to do if they find a vanity article about themselves on wikifur they don't want to exist?

Do they send an email to an admin/steward/bureaucrat or register and propdel it or what?

[[User:Shentino|Shentino]] 02:38, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

:If they do not wish to be covered by WikiFur, they are welcome to submit a request for [[WikiFur:Personal exclusion|personal exclusion]]. If they don't mind it being there, but don't think the current version is particularly good, editing it would be the appropriate response - with the understanding that they do not have overriding control of the article. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 02:42, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

== Page Deletion ==

Hi, I wrote a page about myself (http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Chinmyou) several years ago and no longer wish to have it up. I'd like to have it deleted, please.

Thanks. [[User:Chinmyou|Chinmyou]] 10:42, 8 January 2010

:The fact that you created the page doesn't matter, as it is [[WikiFur:Copyrights|freely licensed to us]]; however, we allow individual subjects of articles to [[WikiFur:Personal exclusion|request exclusion]], and I have submitted the article about you to this process. If there are no objections, it will be protected and the content will be removed within 24 hours. If you wish to have this exclusion removed in the future, please let myself or another administrator know and we will be glad to oblige. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 18:57, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

== RE: Categorization of Location ==

I had initially thought of using a DPL but I couldn't entertain the thought in my head due to the amount of work, so what i've tried to set out to do is to make Brisbane a subcategory of Queensland, but I don't exactly have the know how to do so. If Brisbane where a sub-catagory of Queensland, would the people in the category Brisbane be shown on Category:Queensland...? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Snooper|Snooper]] ([[User talk:Snooper|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Snooper|contribs]]) .
:To make a category into a subcategory, you just place it into that category like any other article. I did this for [[:Category:Brisbane]] shortly after you created it. However, that will not display the members of the subcategory; they are represented by the category name. It's not meant for listing, hence why it's not called a list. :-)
:Making a Dynamic Page List is not too hard. But there is an even easier option - just go to [[Special:CategoryTree]], and enter Australia and select "all pages". This will display all members of the subcategories in the tree after you have expanded all nodes. You can also [[mw:Extension:CategoryTree#Usage|create custom tree views]]. Unfortunately it doesn't work right now because you added the residents of Brisbane into the supercategories as well. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 16:35, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

== Vandalism ==

[[Eka]]

Just go look... My friend showed it to me thinking it was ''funny''. As much as I dislike Eka, that was just '''incredibly''' juvenile and hypocritical of him to do that...

~[http://ttff.wikia.com/wiki/Spades_Neil Spades Neil], fellow admin of the Teen Titan Fan Fic Wiki.

:It looks like [[User:Higgs Raccoon|Higgs Raccoon]] already took care of it. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 15:02, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

== Summit // Zillercon 11 ==

Hi there!

Could you please add Summit (26th June to 3rd July 2010)
and Zillercon 11 (22. - 29.1.2011) to the main list?

Thx!
Keepiru
:Sure - thanks for the updates! You should be able to do this yourself in the future, once you've passed the (fairly low) minimum time/edit user requirements. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 18:18, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

== New Foreign Languages ==

I would like to start an article in Dutch. How do I go about doing this?

Thanks for your time and for WikiFur.

--Kashidom Daheo Nenakh 23:56, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:''Replied over IM.'' --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 00:38, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

== Xsystm47 Page Removal Request ==

:Hi there, I was wondering if you could remove my page (xsystm47) from wikifur? Please let me know if this is possible.
::Thanks, --[[User:Xsystm47|Xsystm47]]
::I saw your request in IRC, though you left too soon for me to reply. The article is only a stub, so I have excluded it immediately. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 23:07, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

== WolfeeDarkfang ==
I can prove it. What you do it support him because you are his friend. Using that argument against me means that anyone who has ever talked to him cannot edit it. Thing is, it has been A MONTH.

Sorry, but you can't deny the truth.
[[User:Zhael|Zhael]] 03:17, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Wolfee Darkfang

2010-03-12T03:15:25Z

Zhael: Mine is proof, your's is bias,

__NOTOC__[[File:YiffyYaffleRanger.png|right|thumb|160px|Yiffy Yaffle/Wolfee Darkfang]]
'''Wolfee Darkfang''' is the player of '''Yiffy Yaffle''' in [[Second Life]].

==Second Life==

In October 2004, [[User:wolfeedarkfang|wolfeedarkfang]] found [[Second Life]], where she created the account Yiffy Yaffle. She quickly became a builder and scripter, creating many items which can be found throughout the grid, including an open-source vendor system, intended to help new residents sell their creations and learn programming. She is very active in the community and forums.

=== The Forest ===

In January 2005, Wolfee was given the tasks of Head Security Administrator and a Builder for the popular [[furry]]-themed [[island (Second Life)|island simulation]] [[The Forest]]. She was in charge of keeping the peace, making sure that troublemakers didn't harm residents or visitors. She also managed a [[Furry Art Museum]] in the western side of the island as a hobby; the gallery contained artwork from various artists in furry fandom, rated from G to "tasteful" XXX.

In May 2006, Wolfee moved along with the other administrators of The Forest to manage a new sim - [[Serenity Woods]], located in the [[Fur Valleys]].

=== "Second Life Furry" logo===
[[File:Slfur.png|right|100px|Second Life Furry logo]]
In early 2006, after a meeting of all furry and/or furry-friendly sims' administrators or owners was held on [[FurNation Worlds]] to discuss strategies for unifying the furry fandom within Second Life. Wolfee was given the task of designing what was intended to be an official identifying symbol for all furry presence within this Second Life.

All new furry sims/locations since 2007 were given the image to be used. The symbol has declined in use since then, possibly due to the high churn rate of sims, sites shutdowns, merges and land resale.

==YouTube==

For quite a while, Wolfee has been a large part of the furry community, both with the fandom and when talking to those outside the fandom, mainly with trolls.

=== In the Past ===

Wolfee was once a large part of the "[[YouTube Furry War]]," which began shortly after Dalhusky had left his role as being the main target for trolls. However, Wolfee had been nothing but a bystander until he was accused of being a "leader" and allegedly filling false DMCA's against internet trolls. This ultimately lead to several hacks of his account.

=== WolfeeDarkfang's YouTube Today ===

On February 19, 2010, Wolfee had, once again, quit the YouTube Furry Community's drama. Although he claims he is finished with the community for good, this is similar to his leaving in mid/late 2008, when he had left due to the activity of trolls (similar to the present attacks), only the problem at the time was the [[bestiality]] controversy when his account was discovered on the popular Zoophilia site BeastForum. He continues to make videos, but specifically directed at his friends.

==External links==
* [http://www.wolfeedarkfang.com/ The Purple Wolf Punk] - Wolfee Darkfang's website

[[Category:People]][[Category:Artists]][[Category:Wolf characters]][[Category:Second Life characters]]

{{Supporter}}

Wolfee Darkfang

2010-03-12T03:11:49Z

Zhael: You really should

__NOTOC__[[File:YiffyYaffleRanger.png|right|thumb|160px|Yiffy Yaffle/Wolfee Darkfang]]
'''Wolfee Darkfang''' is the player of '''Yiffy Yaffle''' in [[Second Life]].

==Second Life==

In October 2004, [[User:wolfeedarkfang|wolfeedarkfang]] found [[Second Life]], where she created the account Yiffy Yaffle. She quickly became a builder and scripter, creating many items which can be found throughout the grid, including an open-source vendor system, intended to help new residents sell their creations and learn programming. She is very active in the community and forums.

=== The Forest ===

In January 2005, Wolfee was given the tasks of Head Security Administrator and a Builder for the popular [[furry]]-themed [[island (Second Life)|island simulation]] [[The Forest]]. She was in charge of keeping the peace, making sure that troublemakers didn't harm residents or visitors. She also managed a [[Furry Art Museum]] in the western side of the island as a hobby; the gallery contained artwork from various artists in furry fandom, rated from G to "tasteful" XXX.

In May 2006, Wolfee moved along with the other administrators of The Forest to manage a new sim - [[Serenity Woods]], located in the [[Fur Valleys]].

=== "Second Life Furry" logo===
[[File:Slfur.png|right|100px|Second Life Furry logo]]
In early 2006, after a meeting of all furry and/or furry-friendly sims' administrators or owners was held on [[FurNation Worlds]] to discuss strategies for unifying the furry fandom within Second Life. Wolfee was given the task of designing what was intended to be an official identifying symbol for all furry presence within this Second Life.

All new furry sims/locations since 2007 were given the image to be used. The symbol has declined in use since then, possibly due to the high churn rate of sims, sites shutdowns, merges and land resale.

==YouTube==

For quite a while, Wolfee has been a large part of the furry community, both with the fandom and when talking to those outside the fandom, mainly with trolls.

=== In the Past ===

Wolfee was once a large part of the "[[YouTube Furry War]]," which began shortly after Dalhusky had left his role as being the main target for trolls. However, Wolfee had been nothing but a bystander until he took up the role as a self proclaimed "leader" upon himself. This ultimately lead to several hacks of his account. He resorted to falce DMCAs of the troll's videos, which lead to him being temporarily banned on July 12th, 2009

=== WolfeeDarkfang's YouTube Today ===

On February 19, 2010, Wolfee had, once again, quit the YouTube Furry Community's drama. Although he claims he is finished with the community for good, this is similar to his leaving in mid/late 2008, when he had left due to the activity of trolls (similar to the present attacks), only the problem at the time was the [[bestiality]] controversy when his account was discovered on the popular Zoophilia site BeastForum. He continues to make videos, but specifically directed at his friends.

==External links==
* [http://www.wolfeedarkfang.com/ The Purple Wolf Punk] - Wolfee Darkfang's website

[[Category:People]][[Category:Artists]][[Category:Wolf characters]][[Category:Second Life characters]]

{{Supporter}}

Wolfee Darkfang

2010-03-12T03:11:22Z

Zhael: stop trying.

__NOTOC__[[File:YiffyYaffleRanger.png|right|thumb|160px|Yiffy Yaffle/Wolfee Darkfang]]
'''Wolfee Darkfang''' is the player of '''Yiffy Yaffle''' in [[Second Life]].

==Second Life==

In October 2004, [[User:wolfeedarkfang|wolfeedarkfang]] found [[Second Life]], where she created the account Yiffy Yaffle. She quickly became a builder and scripter, creating many items which can be found throughout the grid, including an open-source vendor system, intended to help new residents sell their creations and learn programming. She is very active in the community and forums.

=== The Forest ===

In January 2005, Wolfee was given the tasks of Head Security Administrator and a Builder for the popular [[furry]]-themed [[island (Second Life)|island simulation]] [[The Forest]]. She was in charge of keeping the peace, making sure that troublemakers didn't harm residents or visitors. She also managed a [[Furry Art Museum]] in the western side of the island as a hobby; the gallery contained artwork from various artists in furry fandom, rated from G to "tasteful" XXX.

In May 2006, Wolfee moved along with the other administrators of The Forest to manage a new sim - [[Serenity Woods]], located in the [[Fur Valleys]].

=== "Second Life Furry" logo===
[[File:Slfur.png|right|100px|Second Life Furry logo]]
In early 2006, after a meeting of all furry and/or furry-friendly sims' administrators or owners was held on [[FurNation Worlds]] to discuss strategies for unifying the furry fandom within Second Life. Wolfee was given the task of designing what was intended to be an official identifying symbol for all furry presence within this Second Life.

All new furry sims/locations since 2007 were given the image to be used. The symbol has declined in use since then, possibly due to the high churn rate of sims, sites shutdowns, merges and land resale.

==YouTube==

For quite a while, Wolfee has been a large part of the furry community, both with the fandom and when talking to those outside the fandom, mainly with trolls.

=== In the Past ===

Wolfee was once a large part of the "[[YouTube Furry War]]," which began shortly after Dalhusky had left his role as being the main target for trolls. However, Wolfee had been nothing but a bystander until he was accused of being a "leader" and allegedly filling false DMCA's against internet trolls. This ultimately lead to several hacks of his account.

=== WolfeeDarkfang's YouTube Today ===

On February 19, 2010, Wolfee had, once again, quit the YouTube Furry Community's drama. Although he claims he is finished with the community for good, this is similar to his leaving in mid/late 2008, when he had left due to the activity of trolls (similar to the present attacks), only the problem at the time was the [[bestiality]] controversy when his account was discovered on the popular Zoophilia site BeastForum. He continues to make videos, but specifically directed at his friends.

==External links==
* [http://www.wolfeedarkfang.com/ The Purple Wolf Punk] - Wolfee Darkfang's website

[[Category:People]][[Category:Artists]][[Category:Wolf characters]][[Category:Second Life characters]]

{{Supporter}}

Talk:Wolfee Darkfang

2010-03-12T03:09:59Z

Zhael: /* This page was supposed to be about my second life avatar not my fursona */

Wolfee Darkfang

2010-03-12T03:00:08Z

Zhael: You aren't fooling anyone, Wolfee.

__NOTOC__[[File:YiffyYaffleRanger.png|right|thumb|160px|Yiffy Yaffle/Wolfee Darkfang]]
'''Wolfee Darkfang''' is the player of '''Yiffy Yaffle''' in [[Second Life]].

==Second Life==

In October 2004, [[User:wolfeedarkfang|wolfeedarkfang]] found [[Second Life]], where she created the account Yiffy Yaffle. She quickly became a builder and scripter, creating many items which can be found throughout the grid, including an open-source vendor system, intended to help new residents sell their creations and learn programming. She is very active in the community and forums.

=== The Forest ===

In January 2005, Wolfee was given the tasks of Head Security Administrator and a Builder for the popular [[furry]]-themed [[island (Second Life)|island simulation]] [[The Forest]]. She was in charge of keeping the peace, making sure that troublemakers didn't harm residents or visitors. She also managed a [[Furry Art Museum]] in the western side of the island as a hobby; the gallery contained artwork from various artists in furry fandom, rated from G to "tasteful" XXX.

In May 2006, Wolfee moved along with the other administrators of The Forest to manage a new sim - [[Serenity Woods]], located in the [[Fur Valleys]].

=== "Second Life Furry" logo===
[[File:Slfur.png|right|100px|Second Life Furry logo]]
In early 2006, after a meeting of all furry and/or furry-friendly sims' administrators or owners was held on [[FurNation Worlds]] to discuss strategies for unifying the furry fandom within Second Life. Wolfee was given the task of designing what was intended to be an official identifying symbol for all furry presence within this Second Life.

All new furry sims/locations since 2007 were given the image to be used. The symbol has declined in use since then, possibly due to the high churn rate of sims, sites shutdowns, merges and land resale.

==YouTube==

For quite a while, Wolfee has been a large part of the furry community, both with the fandom and when talking to those outside the fandom, mainly with trolls.

=== In the Past ===

Wolfee was once a large part of the "[[YouTube Furry War]]," which began shortly after Dalhusky had left his role as being the main target for trolls. However, Wolfee had been nothing but a bystander until he took up the role as a self proclaimed "leader" upon himself. This ultimately lead to several hacks of his account. He resorted to falce DMCAs of the troll's videos, which lead to him being temporarily banned on July 12th, 2009

=== WolfeeDarkfang's YouTube Today ===

On February 19, 2010, Wolfee had, once again, quit the YouTube Furry Community's drama. Although he claims he is finished with the community for good, this is similar to his leaving in mid/late 2008, when he had left due to the activity of trolls (similar to the present attacks), only the problem at the time was the [[bestiality]] controversy when his account was discovered on the popular Zoophilia site BeastForum. He continues to make videos, but specifically directed at his friends.

==External links==
* [http://www.wolfeedarkfang.com/ The Purple Wolf Punk] - Wolfee Darkfang's website

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User:Zhael

2010-03-12T01:59:20Z

Zhael: /* Salflop Ryan Baker */

Hello everyone, I'm Zhael Christopher Fall. I'm seen around the internet as Zhael, Wolfee, or WolvenZhael, depending on the sites, mainly FurAffinity and YouTube, and, less commonly, Furcadia.

==Full Fursonas==

I have two main fursonas. My first and primary is my totem, as I am a self-identified therian. My other, Salflop Ryan Baker, is more of an example of who I wish to turn myself into, mentally and emotionally. Both take part in my Role Playing, but Zhael is used more, as it's a better incarnate of myself. Both of these have been taken directly from my FurAffinity page, and edited slightly.

===Zhael Christopher Fall===
Name: Zhael Christopher Fall. The name comes from nothing in particular. It was simply a natural idea to go on. 
Age: 15 
Sex: Male 
Species: Canis Lupis Niger (Black Wolf). 
Height: Five foot, Four inches 
Weight: One Hundred Two pounds 
 
Appearance: 
- Hair and fur: Long black hair on black fur. 
- Markings: Red and blue stripes show when excited in a diagonal pattern. 
- Eye color: One green, one blue 
- Other features: Moderately skinny, but it is difficult to tell unless unclothed. 
Behavior and Personality: Zhael does not become as emotional, but displays it in public. He loves to make friends and be social, but both others and himself do not allow it, so he is normally found either alone and quiet (unless with a guitar) or deep in conversation with whatever friend he can make. 
 
 
Skills: Can play guitar, along with grade-A academics and an ability to play most any sport. 
Weaknesses: Not knowing when something isn't needed or appreciated. 
 
Likes: Movies, hard rock music, hanging out with friends, meeting new people, writing music, writing poetry, writing book(s)/story(ies), and has a large affinity for cuddling. 
Dislikes: Elitists and the closed-minded 
 
History: Zhael's life has been a wreck. He knows it, most people around him know it, and he accepts it. Life had been good. He was a conformist and didn't have a sense on individuality until his father passed away. Now he has come to terms with himself, and it is because of that he is normally ridiculed and ostracized. 
 
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Clothing/Personal Style: A lot of black clothes, dark, baggy jeans, a band shirt (usually Avenged Sevenfold or Iron Maiden), a brown collar, and, when chilly out, a sweatshirt/jacket, normally baggy with an Avenged Sevenfold logo. multiple piercings in the right ear, eyebrow piercing blending in with fur. 
 
Goal: To become a neuroscientist or cardiologist, as a career. To marry happy and to adopt a cub/pup/etc. or two. 
Profession: Student 
Personal quote: "My life really is a violent pornography. Life keeps fucking me, but I get right back up." 
Theme song: ...To Be Loved by Papa Roach or Reckless by Papa Roach, as dedicated to self. Always by Blink 182 as dedicated by ex. 
Birthdate: October 13, 1994 
Star sign: Libra 
 
Favorite food: Rare Ribeye Steak, but he wouldn't say no to copious amounts of fudge 
Favorite drink: Ginger Ale 
Favorite location: Anywhere secluded in the woods, during the fall or winter. At his best, and only guy, friend's house, year round. 
Favorite weather: Cloudy and cold and/or pouring rain. 
Favorite color: Black paired with any bright or neon color. 
 
Least liked food: Corn 
Least liked drink: Black Coffee 
Least liked location: Anywhere crowded when not knowing anyone. 
Least liked weather: Hot and humid together. 
 
Orientation: Gay 
 
Music: Avenged Sevenfold, Papa Roach, and Iron Maiden take up most his collection. 
Movie: No specific movie. 
Book: World War Z - Max Brooks 

===Salflop Ryan Baker===
Name: Salflop Ryan Baker. The first name comes from a desire to be more lighthearted. The remainder of the name comes from '''Ryan''' Ross (Panic at the Disco/The Young Veins) and Zachary '''Baker''' (More commonly known as Zacky Vengeance of Avenged Sevenfold.) 
Age: Sixteen 
Sex: Male, with some female traits (not physical) 
Species: Mouse/Rabbit hybrid 
Height: Five feet, ten inches 
Weight: One hundred and twenty pounds 
 
Appearance: 
- Hair and fur: Fur is white and medium length (not shaggy), while hair is a silky and shiny black going down to shoulders. 
- Markings: Hyena-esque stripes alternating black and purple-ish blue from shoulders to foot-paws; right foot-paw is completely black. 
- Eye color: Deep/Dark Green 
- Other features: Right ear contains a single piercing close to the top; same ear also has a small area that looks like it was cut off. 
Behavior and Personality: 
 
Skills: Singing and Fashion are his main tangible skills. He can also manipulate, convince, and change people. He also has a lot of oddities and useless talents that range from juggling to gymnastics. 
Weaknesses: Becoming too isolated or social at one point in time. Also, he puts other people first, so his problems are pushed aside. 
 
Likes: Being physical and social. Cuddling and hugging are also an affinity of his. He also loves anything that allows him to work with his skills and talents. 
Dislikes: Being forcibly ostracized and leaving people out. Also, failure causes major discouragement with Salflop. 
 
History: Grown up to keep to himself and keep his nose out of trouble, Salflop was always yearned to have friends. While always being alone, teaching himself many tangible and... unique... talents, Salflop never wanted to be alone. He later refused to abide by his guidelines and became social, using his talents to his advantage. Taking great pride in his appearance and intelligence, he easily caught the eye of most everyone. His abilities he learned, to manipulate and seemingly change people, for example, helped keep many friends, but only ever growing close to two. The reason for this may be because being confined is normal to him. 
 
Other:Incredibly social and go-lucky. Tends to write everything down and draw when something comes to mind. Reputation varies, being interesting to friends and a teacher's favorite. While Salflop enjoys making friends, he will still keep to himself, but will almost never say no to any sort of social gathering. He is incredibly (and that's used as an understatement) open about his sexuality. 
 
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Clothing/Personal Style: Always darkened, baggy jeans with bright shirts and accessories, ranging from rainbow wristbands to purple collars. 
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Picture: 
 
Needed. If someone could do that, I'd be grateful! 
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Goal: 
Profession: Singing Instructor on the side/Full time student 
Personal quote: "I'm probably the biggest bundle of sticks you'll ever find!" 
Theme song: Issues by Mindless Self Indulgence or Longview by Green Day 
Birthdate: August 4rd, '93 
Star sign: Leo 
 
Favorite food: Lemon Poppyseed Cake 
Favorite drink: Cream Soda 
Favorite location: The pool during the summer, schoolgrounds after-school during the Winter. 
Favorite weather: Any weather that is not taken to extremes while either pouring rain or cloudy. 
Favorite color: Neon-Pink with Black 
 
Least liked food: Anything plain-tasting (plain Tortilla chips, i.e.) 
Least liked drink: Whole Milk 
Least liked location: The beach 
Least liked weather: Extremely hot and humid. 
 
Orientation:Gay 
 

==My Role In The Fandom==

I do not have a significant "role" in the fandom, but I am part of it in several areas. This includes art, videos, and other large areas, but being a very small part of such, I am not recognized.

===Art and Poetry===

I am an amateur poet and artist. While my art is abysmal, it seems that my poetry mainly gets positive reviews. In 2008, I was published for non-furry works in both a poetry and prose section of a poetry collection book. I also take commissions and trades, asking for very little, or a picture of my fursona.

===YouTube===

I do not identify myself as a troll, but I do argue with those who I have ideas about. The most recent of this is [[WolfeeDarkfang]], who had called me out quite a while ago, whom I held a grudge against. I have forgiven and forgotten this, and now limit my videos, for the time being, to incredibly bad guitar covers and music. Out of all my videos, the only one to get significant attention is one on Gay Marriage.

==Personal Life==

In real life, I'm fifteen. I'm short, athletic build, and play soccer and basketball. I also swim, but I may be over with that competetive. I managed to swim a speed two seconds away from making the state championship in my first year. As seen in my YouTube, I have black, medium-long hair. It is not the natural color.
I am, and am proud to be, homosexual. I am currently dating an "ex-fur" who left the fandom last year. In school, I currently maintain all A's. I am not the most popular, nor am I a target for insults and bullying. Many of my friends no longer live near me, but I found my niche being with many of the girls, as I am effeminate in several ways.

==External Links==
[http://www.furaffinity.net/user/wolvenzhael/] My FurAffinity Page 
[http://www.youtube.com/user/WolvenZhael?feature=mhw4] My YouTube Account

Thank you guys for looking. Chances are you didn't :3

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2010-03-12T01:54:53Z

Zhael: /* Complete Revamp of the Page? */