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Babyfur

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Babyfur

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A '''babyfur''' is a member of the [[furry fandom]] who enjoys fucking younger characters. They may also be an Adult Baby and/or [[Wikipedia:Diaper Lover|Diaper Lover]] (collectively known as faggot manchildren in diapers), or is otherwise involved in faggotry. There are many different types of [[fur]]s in the babyfur community, each focusing on different aspects and roles. Like faggotry in general, babyfur culture involves a good amount of role-playing (either light or heavy), both online and in the comfort of their mom's basement.

The community has been growing more and more popular since the mid-to late 90's. While the community itself is still part of the furry fandom as a whole, it is large enough to present sufficient leaders, politics and [[drama]] to give the community a nearly independent feel to it.

Role playing babyfurs will most often take on the role of a [[furry]] [[character]] in his/her infancy or childhood. Common roleplaying themes include "cute" [[clothing]] (onesies, footy pajamas, overalls, diapers) and a child's environment such as a nursery or day care center, complete with cribs, high chairs and babyish decor. A few babyfurs lucky enough to afford the privacy and devotion will set up adult nurseries to role play as children in real life. A [[sex|sexual]] subset of this type of roleplaying is known as [[ageplay]].
[[Image:Rieva-little.JPG|thumb|350px|right|Babyfurs in a Nutshell.<br\>Art by [[LoupGarou]] [http://us-p.vclart.net/vcl/Artists/LoupGarou], character by [[Rieva]]]]
== Terminology ==
=== Babyfur roles ===

There are a few sub-groups within the babyfur community which are often described with the following terminology :

*'''Babyfur''' : Used to describe the group as a whole, however, specifically it refers to someone who roleplays as younger characters—up to the [[human]] equivalent of toddler age. Baby paraphernalia is likely to be involved for this group and roleplay speech is often either in gibberish or very basic speech.
*'''Lilfur (littlefur, kidfur)''' : This is a person who roleplays as a child character. Characters identified as lilfurs tend to be between their toddler and teen ages. Diapers and other baby paraphernalia may or may not be involved. Role played speech is usually more refined at this point, but still somewhat juvenile.
*'''Diaperfur''' : This is a person who roleplays as an adult character who still either requires or chooses to wear diapers. Role played speech and actions are consistent with an adult. The person may also roleplay an adult character who has mentally regressed back to a younger state, but still has an adult physical form.
*'''Sissyfur''' : This is commonly misunderstood as a person who roleplays a [[male]] character, either adult or child, who is forced to dress and act as a young [[female]] character. Truthfully, a sissyfur is anyone, male or female, who enjoys regression, leaning toward a very feminized and docile or submissive look and attitude.
*'''Caretaker''' : As the name suggests these are the people who roleplay caretaker characters, a 'mommy' or 'daddy' figure for other babyfurs.

Many people don't identify with one single group, but can change roles depending on the situation and who they are interacting with. It's also not uncommon for complex lineages (for example siblings, parents, etc.) to be set up among other babyfurs so that roles can be defined.

== Definition of AB/DLs ==

These are general non-furry terms but are useful to understand in this context.

*'''Adult Baby''' (AB) : A person that enjoys regressing back to being a baby. Beyond regressing using physical or environmental changes (such as diapers, clothing, and settings), they also mentally regress, taking the mentality of a baby. These are the equivalent to 'babyfurs' or 'lilfurs' when crossed with [[furry]]. Teenagers who are Adult Babies will sometimes refer to themselves as Teen Babies ('''TBs''').
*'''Diaper Lover''' (DL) : A person feels a strong desire to wear or use diapers, usually without physiological necessity. These people, unlike AB's, will usually not regress physically (adopting a baby form) or mentally. These tend to be the equivalent of 'diaperfurs' in the babyfur community. For some DLs, but not all of them, there is a fetish connection to the diapers. They will sometimes take the submissive role to a caretaker in sexual play, and the caretaker will take a dominant role.
*'''Infantilist''' : Essentially, [[Wikipedia:infantilism|infantilism]] regards any person who enjoys regressing to the mental age of an infant or toddler, and may or may not involve diapers and other baby paraphernalia.

== Baby items (and why) ==

From the Adult Baby (AB) angle of AB/DL, regressing individuals prefer to behave and be treated as much like a baby or toddler as possible. To do so successfully achieves in many babyfurs a comforting, secure or blissful feeling. Various paraphernalia help to satisfy these preferences:

=== Clothing ===

Many babyfurs enjoy wearing all sorts of clothing. Some say the cuter it looks, the better it is. Such articles of clothing include the following:

*[[Wikipedia:Overalls|Overalls]]
*[[Wikipedia:Shortalls|Shortalls]]
*[[Wikipedia:Booties|Booties]]
*[[Wikipedia:Dresses|Dresses]]
*[[Wikipedia:Onesie|Onesies]]
*[[Wikipedia:Pajamas|Pajamas]]
*[[Wikipedia:Pants|Pants]]
*[[Wikipedia:Footed sleeper|Footed sleepers]]
*[[Wikipedia:Mittens|Mittens]]
*[[Wikipedia:Bows|Bows]]

=== Plushies and toys ===

Just like clothing, interacting with [[plush toy|plushies]] and toys is very contributive to the cub experience. Toys range in age from baby toys to toy cars and action figures. As long as cubs get to interact with one another though, toys are not always the focus in a roleplay.

=== Objects ===

A toddler's life is not complete without items such as [[Wikipedia:Infant bed|cribs]], [[Wikipedia:Baby transport|walkers]], [[Wikipedia:Stroller|strollers]], [[Wikipedia:High chair|high chairs]], [[Wikipedia:Car seat|car seats]]/[[Wikipedia:Infant car seat|booster seats]], [[Wikipedia:Pacifier|pacifiers]], [[Wikipedia:Baby bottle|baby bottles]]/[[Wikipedia:Sippy cup|sippy cups]], [[Wikipedia:Baby powder|talcum powder]] and [[Wikipedia:Bubble bath|bubble baths]]. Many babyfurs use these objects in online roleplay and would love to be able to use them in the real world.

As well as physical objects, some babyfurs find a keen interest in actions like [[wikipedia:blowing a raspberry|blowing a raspberry]], being held, or watching old television shows that are no longer available on TV. Many old children's shows such as 80's and early 90's cartoons on [[Wikipedia:Nickelodeon|Nickelodeon]] were the same shows some babyfurs watched when they were little, and reminiscing about them leaves a nostalgic warmth.

=== Diaper usage (and why) ===

Diapers are an item frequently used while "cubbing out". Like other aspects of babyfur, this can be done in the virtual world, the real world, or both. There are many babyfurs, however, that while they will wear diapers in online roles, do not in real life. Many babyfurs will wear diapers in real life for a feeling of security and comfort, but will not use them for their intended purpose. At the other end of the spectrum, there are some babyfurs that, either by choice or by necessity, wear and use diapers all the time.

Why babyfurs wear, and possibly use, diapers in the real world is varied. For some, they are forced to wear them because of a medical condition and have no choice in the matter. These people have often blended their real life situation with that of their furry persona. For others, it is a way they can regress into their [[fursona|furry persona]]'s age. Some others see the diapers as a connection to their furry persona, paralleling a [[tail]] or [[fursuit]] in the general [[furry community]].

The wearing (and especially the use) of diapers in the real world are at the heart of many issues that some members of the furry community in general have with the babyfurs. For example, it is not generally considered appropriate for a diaper user to soil themselves at a [[convention]] in the presence of other [[furry fan]]s - or to put themselves in a situation where this is likely to happen — yet individuals have been known to do this, to the detriment of the group's reputation.

== Babyfur behavior ==

When cubbing out in both the real world and in online roleplaying, the level of connection to the role will vary between each player. Some babyfurs will become so involved and yearn for such an authentic childish mentality that they will use speech impediments and [[Wikipedia:baby talk|baby talk]] to communicate. Very few babyfurs make a habit out of using babytalk in the real world, similar to a [[Wikipedia:gay lisp|gay lisp]]. Depending on the situation, a babyfur could even develop a habit of whining or crying to get what he/she wants from a caregiver or another roleplayer.

In light online role-playing, babyfurs may toddle, crawl and [[wag]] their tails playfully while the sounds of crinkling diapers abound. Pouncing, giggling, cuddling, [[snug]]gling and tummy rubbing ensue with the maximum possible level of cuteness.

Child-like behavior, baby animal sounds and an emphasis on cuteness can be found among some furry fans when among themselves, even those who don't call themselves babyfurs and who don't participate in other babyfur activities described here, such as diapers or baby clothing.

While most babyfurs are closely attached to the development of young humans, a different approach can be found in online role-play, where newborn [[zoomorphic]] and [[anthropomorphic]] characters often grow up at a similar pace as wild [[animal]]s, doing without accessories such as diapers and learning to walk in a short time. This has the practical advantage of sooner getting into an age that allows interesting role-play even for non-babyfurs when playing a character since birth. As in nature, opinions on when a character can be considered adult vary greatly.

=== Cubbing out ===

"Cubbing Out" is a general term used by the community to describe roleplaying as a babyfur character. This can either be roleplay in the virtual world or the real world. Usually it will involve one or more regressed characters or people interacting with each other or with a caregiver.

"Padding" and "Getting Padded" may also refer to cubbing, in particular regarding to being diapered.

=== The caregiver's role ===

Caregivers (or caretakers) are the "mommy" and "daddy" figures in the roleplay. For the most part, they interact with other babyfurs as a mother or father would with their child. This can include playing with, cleaning or disciplining the younger character.

=== Babyfurs at furry conventions ===

Just like furries in general, babyfurs go to conventions to spend time with friends and express their [[furriness]]. For many, that includes their babyfur aspects too. One may see many babyfurs dressed in juvenile clothing and with various paraphernalia because that is part of how they choose to express themselves. To some babyfurs, dressing in such a way is no different from other furries wearing ears, tails or fursuits.

At many conventions, hotel rooms are set up as gathering places for babyfurs to socialize privately, and many conventions now have unique babyfur rooms/parties available, instead of relying on the same people to run the same parties at every con. Two of the most notable are the [[Cubhouse]], run by [[LilPup]], as well as the [[Cub Hub]], a new room run by any of its core members ([[FoxCub]], [[Natasha Softpaw]], and [[Scritchwuff]], currently) who show up for a particular con.

== History of the babyfur community ==
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*'''1995''' - [[Proxima Centauri]] opens [[The Nursery]] on [[FurryMUCK]].
*'''1995-01-13''' - Proxima Centauri runs the first official "AB/DL Furry" convention gathering at [[ConFurence 6]], though unsuccessful.
*'''1995-08-04''' - [[BitterGrey]] opens '''Understanding Infantilism''', then known as '''BitterGrey's Den''', a website for ABDLs and furries.
*'''1996-09-09''' - Proxima Centauri officially opens '''Nursery Tails'''.
*'''1997''' - [[Snuggems]] opens the FurryMUCK's '''DayKare and Bottoms-Up Diaper Company'''.
*'''1998-01-15''' - Snuggems runs '''The Nursery''', the first successful convention gathering for babyfurs, at [[ConFurence 9]]. The Nursery has been held at 18 furry conventions.
*'''1998-07''' - [[Chipper]] and [[OshKoshFox]] create [[babyfurs (IRC)|#babyfurs]] on [[YiffNet]].
*'''2000-05-20''' - [[Kasi Frost]] and OshKoshFox create the '''Babyfurs mailing list''' on [[One Groups]].
*'''2000-05-18''' - [[Ray_Ferret]] creates '''#littlepaws''' on YiffNet after heated disagreements on #babyfurs.
*'''2000''' -[[OzzyFox]] creates '''#nowhere_grotto''' on YiffNet as an alternative to #babyfurs and '''#littlepaws'''. The new channel grows to rival the size of #babyfurs, but falls before '''#babyfur''' is created in 2004.
*'''2001-07''' - [[LilPup]] runs the first CubHouse at [[Anthrocon]].
*'''2002-11-02''' - [[TF Baxxter]] officially opens the '''Babyfur Community''' on [[LiveJournal]].
*'''2004-07''' - [[Ludwig]] creates #babyfur as an alternative to #babyfurs, now on [[FurNet (IRC)|FurNet]], to allow users to chat with fewer rules and regulations.
*'''2004-09-13''' - The Babyfurs mailing list, having moved to [[Yahoo! Groups]], is deleted by Yahoo! and is revived as '''Babyfurs_part2'''.
*'''2004-12-11''' - Yahoo! again deletes the mailing list, and the group moves to "Babyfurs" on [[Smartgroups]].
*'''2006-11-30''' - SmartGroups ceases service. Babyfurs mailing list ceases to exist after over six years. The Babyfur LJ community eventually replaces mailing lists as a central babyfur community center.
*'''2009-02-14''' #babyfur is removed from furnet for making fun of a recently dead furry.{{fact}}
*'''2009-02-24''' - Ludwig moves #babyfur to anthrochat after being banned from furnet along with the other owners of #babyfur
*'''2009-06-21''' - The Cub Hub comes to [[Twitter]].
*'''2009-07''' - '''The Babyfur Group''' opens on [[Facebook]].
*'''2011-01-07''' - Ludwig closes #babyfur permanently.
*'''2011-04-18''' - [[LilFuzz|Fuzzy]] opens [[BabyFur.ME]] as a [[W:Social Network|social network]] dedicated to the babyfur community.
*'''2011-10-10''' - Ludwig opens '''#bfd''' on AnthroChat
*'''201x-xx-xx''' - "Babyfurs" opens up on Twitter, via [[Ruff Wolf]]

==Notable babyfurs==
{{Dubious}}
The following babyfurs are among the most known and respected in the furry fandom, recognized here for their contributions and devotion to the babyfur community:

*[[BabyTiger (person)|BabyTiger]] has been a member of the babyfur community since 1998, A Canadian Babyfur who has a strong presence at the Canadian conventions such at [[furnal Equinox]] and [[FurFright]], as well as organizing and hosting BabyFur gatherings. He also works and helps out with newer babyfurs in the community, making them feel welcomed and lending a hand to any who need the help. He also attends many furry gatherings in the USA, such as AC and FC. In the furry fandom he is also the technical director at [[Anthrofest]].

*'''FoxCub''' founded the Cub Hub mixer parties held at furry cons, which have been well-received by the babyfur community and the furry community alike. He's organized numerous local babyfur parties in the Pittsburgh area, and has been directly involved with most of the babyfur parties held at furry cons for the past decade. Recently, he began building high-quality cribs, high chairs, and other AB furniture, providing samples of his work at babyfur room parties at Anthrocon.

*[[Karis]] owns and maintains [[Karis' Playground]], featuring a large collection of babyfur and AB/DL comics by artists of all rank. Karis was the first person to make babyfur/diaper art available at furry conventions, thus pioneering the community known today as "Babyfurs."

*'''LilPup''' ran and managed the '''Babyfur Cubhouse''' at furry conventions for babyfurs to get together and have fun, before the Cub Hub and other babyfur parties gained prominence. Like Swift and Orca, LilPup works to improve the relationship between babyfurs and non-babyfurs at conventions and to help babyfurs maintain a positive reputation in the furry fandom.

*'''Ludwig''', the owner of the controversial #babyfur and #bfd; often connected with anti-babyfur sentiment.{{fact}}

*[[Orca (person)|Orca]] is a former moderator for the Babyfurs mailing list. He maintains an external file archive for the mailing list. He routinely reports links to interesting or humorous online articles relating to AB/DLs. Orca is also the famed inventor of the "Orca Stack".

*'''Proxima Centauri''''s name is perhaps the first name known to newcomers to the babyfur community as they search to satisfy their newly found interests. Proxima runs '''Nursery Tails''', one of the longest running AB Furry pages, dating back to 1997 (before the term "babyfur" had existed) and featuring thousands of babyfur art, fiction and multimedia files. Though it is in dire need of a new layout, the webpage still runs strong today.

*[[Swift Fox (person)|Swift Fox]] has been a member of the babyfur community since its inception in the mid to late 90's. He writes babyfur fiction, was owner and moderator of several iterations of the Babyfurs mailing list.

== Babyfur media ==
{{Dubious}}
A few of the authors and artists in the babyfur community are:

===Artists===

*[[Marci McAdam]] is probably the most popular [[artist]] in the babyfur community. Although not a babyfur herself, her ability and open-mindedness make her one of the most recognizable and well loved artists in babyfur circles. It is often said that a fur isn't officially a babyfur until they have purchased a badge or commission from her. Marci's babyfur art is for sale at her husband's website, [[Karis' Playground]] - other art is located at '''Marci McAdam's Furries'''. Due to professional time constraints, Marci only takes a few fandom commissions at a time, mostly at conventions.
*[[BushyCat]] appears at several furry conventions and is well known for her humorous-yet-innocent take on babyfurs as well as other alternative genres of furry art. Some of her creations have more human-like qualities than other artists tend to portray in their characters.
*[[Jade Fox]] The majority of his work is based on his own or other babyfurs' characters. His drawings focus on the most treasured aspects of childhood and include innovative clothing design.
*[[Kelvin the Lion]]'s works include the progressive webcomic ''[[Nivlek]]'', about the "weird" adventures of Nivlek the [[snow leopard]], who enjoys wearing diapers and eating.
*[[OzzyFox]], a student of [[Animator|animation]] at the [http://www.artinstitutes.edu/houston/ Art Institute of Houston], produces work that ranges from cuddly cute to controversial and mature.
*[[Cargo Weasel]]'s art leans strongly toward the "DL" side of "AB/DL," showing off mature diaper-related concepts that fit with his coloring and shading style. His art was featured on a now-defunct mailing list, but can still be found on his website.
*[[Familliar]] is a regular at [[Guppy]]'s [[Bluefurry Oekaki|Bluefurry]] [[oekaki]] board. Familiar regularly draws pictures of both his own character creations as well as that of his commissioners in his own charmingly creative and endearing way.
*[[Aramitz]]'s artwork focuses almost exclusively on the "DL" side of commissions for the babyfur community. His style features bold, thick inking lines set against cell-shaded coloring. Aramitz maintains galleries at all major furry art websites.
*[[TaviMunk]] is a traditional and digital artist whose work is intended to reflect the joys and fun of childhood and babyhood, using bright colors and warm, innocent expressions and actions. Tavi keeps his art at a G-PG level, and takes [[commission]]s.
*[[Kalida]] produces a great deal of babyfur artwork, much of it commissioned.

=== Art ''about'' babyfurs ===

Some [[furry fandom]] artists have covered the topic of babyfurs, typically taking the same line as [[:Category:Media coverage|external commentators]] on the entire fandom:

*''[[West Corner Of the Park (comic)|West Corner Of the Park]]'''s coverage has been [http://www.graphxpress.com/cgi-bin/wcotp.cgi?date=20051002 generally] [http://www.graphxpress.com/cgi-bin/wcotp.cgi?date=20051016 negative], although they did make an exception for the [http://www.graphxpress.com/cgi-bin/wcotp.cgi?date=20060521 Pink Panzer].

=== Writers ===

*[[CS Fox]], also known as '''Kit Fox''' and '''Cyprus Sygial''', is possibly the best known babyfur [[writer]] in the community. His works are the biggest features in the stories section at Nursery Tails, and since his submissions to Proxima's site he has gone on to host his own website showing off babyfur fiction of his own and by newer babyfur writers. The latest rendition of CS Fox's site, '''Fox Tales Times''', is being completed as this article is written. Its biggest feature is CS Fox's renowned AB/DL RPGM2K-based game, '''Weston Academy'''. The website also sports plenty of comics and art related to the RPG.
*[[Firemane]]'s fiction is prominently featured on CS Fox's fiction page.
*[[Fieval Mouse]]'s work is still favored by many furs. His stories are roughly 5 years old and are found on Proxima's Nursery Tails, featuring illustrations by [[Doodles]].
*[[Athalon]] is another notable furry writer who has written the lightly famous [[The Milkshake Club]].

== Controversy ==

=== Babyfurs and pedophilia ===

Like other furry fans, babyfurs often exhibit sexual attraction to anthropomorphic animals by participating in [[TinySex]]. But because this usually involves adult players [[roleplaying]] sexual situations involving prepubescent characters, the question of whether babyfurs are [[Wikipedia:Pedophilia|pedophiles]] often arises.

Babyfurs generally assert that roleplaying as underage characters doesn't imply sexual attraction to such characters. For example, some roleplay as young furries due to a longing to be young again, and have no sexual element to their roleplay.

Of those that do participate in sexual activity, some are interested in (for example) the fantasy of submission to an adult figure. Those who have TinySex with other babyfurs sometimes argue that if there is no adult ''character'' involved, the activity is not pedophilia. Others may stress that since characters portrayed are not ''human'', it is not meaningfully pedophilia. Outsiders often disagree, since the activity still involves actual adults taking an interest in prepubertal persons depicted in sexual situations.

This debate applies equally to visual and written depictions of babyfurs in sexual relations, and disagreements are often intense, between those with concerns about pedophilia, those who feel babyfur is distinct from pedophilia (because of players' identification with characters or the species of those characters), and those who don't care who enjoys it just as long as they're not forced to see it.

Within the psychological community there is a clear distinction that has been made between [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraphilic_infantilism#Pedophilia AB/DLs and pedophiles]. Including from wikipedia Sexologist Gloria Brame whom states that "...infantilists who recognize and accept their sexuality - and its possible roots in infantile trauma - tend to be acutely protective of real children."{{fact}}

=== Babyfurs vs. non-babyfurs ===

The concept of babyfurs is quite contentious with some members of the [[fandom]]. Some furries and non-furries who have identified themselves as babyfurs or were identified by others as being babyfurs may have acted inappropriately at [[convention]]s in the past.{{fact}} Such contentious behavior has allegedly included wearing diapers in public without using proper hygiene and trying to push uninterested people into babyfur roleplay, including sexual roleplay. These behaviors are frowned upon by the babyfur community in general, and such incidents, if perpetrated by babyfurs, are done by a small number of babyfurs within a larger babyfur community. The community in general adopted guidelines of conduct for how to act in public after a rash of such alleged incidents at conventions in an effort to police themselves.

Furries who dislike babyfurs may do so for a variety of common points, including:

*Grossed out by the concept of diaper lovers (or, in the aforementioned cases, by the smell)
*Concern that some babyfurs may be pedophiles
*Previous negative experiences with those who identify themselves as babyfurs or were identified by others as being babyfurs.
*Fear that babyfur behavior will be associated as a characteristic of the general fandom, especially in the media

While there is some conflict between babyfurs and the general fandom, such conflicts should not be overstated. The majority of babyfurs and non-babyfurs coexist quite well because the majority of babyfurs do not engage in the more extreme behaviors mentioned here.

== External links ==
[[Image:sr_secondlife.jpg|thumb|300px|right|Two babyfurs hug in the world of [[Second Life]].]]

=== General ===

*[http://foxtalestimes.actifforum.com/index.forum Fox Tales Forum] official homepage
*[http://www.adisc.org/forum/babyfur-littlefur/ Babyfur/littlefur forum] on [http://www.adisc.org/ ADISC.org]
*[http://babyfur.com Babyfur.com] official homepage (not maintained)
*[http://foxcrib.sk1p.com/ Fox Crib] official homepage (not maintained)
*[http://www.karisplayground.com/ Karis' Playground] official homepage (not maintained)

=== Informational ===

*[http://www.swiftsden.net/bfpbg_v1_2.pdf Babyfurs Public Behavior Guidelines (v1.2a)] official homepage
*[http://understanding.infantilism.org Understanding Infantilism] official homepage

=== Media ===

*[http://www.nurserytails.ca Nursery Tails] official homepage
*[http://www.foxtalestimes.com Fox Tales Times] official homepage

=== Communities ===

*[http://community.livejournal.com/babyfur/ Babyfur community] on Livejournal
*[http://babyfur.dreamwidth.org/ Babyfur community] on [http://www.dreamwidth.org/ Dreamwidth]

=== Mailing lists ===

*[http://www.altbabyfur.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/altbabyfur AltBabyfur] mailing list

=== IRC ===

*[irc://irc.anthrochat.org/babyfur.me Anthrochat #babyfur.me] (PG13 rating)
*[irc://irc.furnet.org/babyfurs Furnet #babyfurs] (PG13 rating)
*[irc://irc.furnet.org/diaperfurs Furnet #diaperfurs] (Unrated)
*[irc://irc.anthrochat.net/bfd Anthrochat #bfd] (Unrated)
*[irc://irc.anthrochat.net/ballpit Anthrochat #ballpit] (Unrated)

=== MUCKs ===

[[The Astonishing Treehouse of the Secret Moon|The Treehouse]] on [[Tapestries]]

=== Second Life ===

*[http://slurl.com/secondlife/Kit%20Estates/58/150/26 Cub Conclave] on [[Second Life]]
*[http://conclave.motd.org/ Cub Conclave] official homepage

=== Social networking ===

*[http://babyfur.me BabyFur.ME] official social network homepage

==== Twitter Feeds ====

*[https://twitter.com/#!/babyfur BabyFur.ME]
*[https://twitter.com/#!/Ruff_Wolf/babyfurs Babyfurs] (group)
*[https://twitter.com/#!/TheCubHub The Cub Hub]

==== Facebook ====

*[https://www.facebook.com/groups/92091061541/ The Babyfur Group]

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Jack (webcomic)

2013-04-08T15:34:06Z

Wowplayer161:

{{Infobox webcomic
| title = Jack
| image = [[File:JACK logo.gif|250px]]
| caption =
| author = David Hopkins
| url = http://www.pholph.com/
| status = Unknown
| began = March 1st, 2001
| ended = Ongoing
| genre = [[Horror]], Drama, [[Action]]
| rating = [[Image:Censor_NC17_button.png]][[Category:Rated_NC17]]
}}
'''''Jack''''' is a shitty [[furry]] [[webcomic]] by [[David Hopkins]] AKA some faggot manchild like the rest of you. It is set in a world populated by [[anthropomorphism|anthropomorphic]] animals and focuses on fucking eachother and [[Wikipedia:afterlife|afterlife]], which function according to [[Christianity|Christian]] beliefs, and is noted for its depiction of "rape, [[Wikipedia:Recreational drug use|drug use]], swearing, graphic sexual acts, incest, cannibalism, nudity, savage violence, and images of [[Wikipedia:Hell|Hell]]."<ref name="Comixtalk">{{cite web|last=Summers|first=Matt|url=http://comixtalk.com/jack_david_hopkins_reviewed_matt_summers|title=Jack by David Hopkins, reviewed by Matt Summers|publisher=Comixtalk|date=2005-10-10|accessdate=2007-10-31}}</ref>

''Jack'' focuses on its [[Jack (character)|title character]], a wizened green [[rabbit]] who lives in Hell. He is the embodiment of the [[Wikipedia:Seven deadly sins|deadly sin]] wrath, whose punishment is being the [[Wikipedia:Death (personification)|Grim Reaper]]. In life, the unfairness of some deaths, particularly towards the ones he loved, made him angry.<ref name="Strip 927">{{cite web|last=Hopkins|first=David|authorlink=David Hopkins|url=http://www.pholph.com/index_a.php?Strip=927|title=Arc XXVII: Why Do I Deserve To Die, Strip 927|publisher=Jack|date=2006-08-30|accessdate=2007-10-31}}</ref> In his position as Grim Reaper, he now has to witness more death, the cause of his wrath. Jack attempts to remember the sins he did in life in order to be forgiven for them. This is hard for him as his other punishment is having no memory of his life on Earth.

''Jack'' was joint winner of the "Best Dramatic Comic" award at the [[Wikipedia:Web Cartoonist's Choice Awards|Web Cartoonist's Choice Awards]] in [[Wikipedia:2004 Web Cartoonist's Choice Awards|2004]].<ref name="2004 WCCA">{{cite web|url=http://www.ccawards.com/2004.htm|title=2004 Winners and Nominees|publisher=Web Cartoonist Choice Awards|accessdate=2007-10-28}}</ref>

==Overview==
[[Image:JackWebcomicMainCast.jpg|right|thumb|300px|The main cast of ''Jack'' (From top, clockwise): Kane, Jack, Central, Farrago, Drip and Fnar.]]
''Jack'' covers subjects related to the attitude a person can lead in life and its consequences to them and to the people around them. Frequent features are disease, rape, murder, suicide, bereavement and [[Wikipedia:Redemption (religious)|redemption]]. The comic is divided into a number of arcs ([[Wikipedia:Subplot|subplot]]s) of varying length. Artwork style and presence of color differ from arc to arc. Arcs take place on Hell, Earth, Heaven and [[Wikipedia:Purgatory|Purgatory]]. Arcs set on Earth (usually revolving around Jack's job as Grim Reaper) take place during different, not always consecutive, time periods. In Heaven and Hell there is no concept of time.<ref>{{cite web|last=Hopkins|first=David|authorlink=David Hopkins|url=http://www.pholph.com/index_a.php?Strip=79|title=Arc V: Dinner At Arloest's, Strip 79|publisher=Jack|date=2001-08-22|accessdate=2007-10-28}}</ref> The eyes of characters symbolize their status in the ''Jack'' universe: sins have no pupils; living souls and angels have full pupils; the souls of deceased persons have "pin-prick" eyes as long as they do not recognize their sins.<ref>{{cite web|last=Hopkins|first=David|authorlink=David Hopkins|url=http://www.pholph.com/index_a.php?Strip=175|title=Arc VIII: Games We Play In Hell, Strip 175|publisher=Jack|date=2002-03-06|accessdate=2007-10-28}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|last=Hopkins|first=David|authorlink=David Hopkins|url=http://www.pholph.com/index_a.php?Strip=176|title=Arc VIII: Games We Play In Hell, Strip 176|publisher=Jack|date=2002-03-08|accessdate=2007-10-28}}</ref>

The comic centers around decidedly mature themes, as demonstrated by the third strip in the debut arc which allowed Fnar to meet his mother, restrained to a cave wall with the rock actually encompassing her right leg and holding her arms as if it were eating her. The mature themes of the comic are made quite plain at that time, as the woman bore a stab wound under her left ribs near the stomach and also had her throat slashed. The blood from these wounds is still dripping in the scenes, and Fnar himself looked grisly as he was "aged" by Jack in stages to the age of a preteen boy.

''Jack'''s plot bounces around quite often, but it remains true to the Hell theme for the most part. On occasion, strips are published which pertain to real world events, like the ''Angry Brian'' story arc which depicted events similar to those of the horrific [[Wikipedia:Columbine High School massacre|Columbine High School Massacre]]. Other features of the comic include the appearance of real places like the former [[Wikipedia:World Trade Center|World Trade Center]] that was destroyed in the infamous and very tragically devastating terrorist attacks of [[Wikipedia:September 11, 2001 attacks|9/11]]. The ''Angry Brian'' story arc sparked heavy feedback from the readers, and also helped to earn the comic a large reader base.

''Jack'' is based on [[Wikipedia:Christian tradition|Christian tradition]], but the world and its rules are inconsistent with typical Christian views. The angels are the forces of good, and the sins are evil personified. These two forces do not fight each other much in the comic; in fact, for the most part they appear to work together without any major problems, although this may be due to the focus on Jack, the most amenable of [[Wikipedia:Seven deadly sins|Sins]]. Many of Hell's denizens enjoy inflicting pain on one another. However, there is confusion at times, with people who were good in life end up going to Hell. The unfairness of the fates of many of these people, and the observations of Jack on the unfairness of life, are central themes.<ref name="Strip 136">{{cite web|last=Hopkins|first=David|authorlink=David Hopkins|url=http://www.pholph.com/index_a.php?Strip=136|title=Arc VII: All Work And No Play…, Strip 136|publisher=Jack|date=2001-12-10|accessdate=2007-10-28}}</ref>

The comic can be morbid, but it has its tender moments and optimistic highlights. Not all the characters of the comic are doomed to Hell for eternity. They all have a chance to eventually live on Earth again in new forms as a test to see if they have "learned" from their previous life's mistakes. If so, they are admitted to heaven. If not, they are condemned once more to the bowels of Hell.

==History==
David previously created comics such as ''[[Rework the Dead]]''. After creating "Trixi and Tet" (which later became the third story "Arc" of ''Jack''),<ref>{{cite web|last=Hopkins|first=David|authorlink=David Hopkins|url=http://www.pholph.com/arcview.php?ID=21|title=Arc III: Trixi and Tet|publisher=Jack|date=2001-04-11|accessdate=2007-11-02}}</ref> his then girlfriend (and later wife) Katie suggested that he should break out to a bigger audience. Initially hesitant as he was used to a smaller audience, he then expanded. After "Trixi and Tet" was published, he had around 5,000 readers.<ref>{{cite web|last=Hopkins|first=David|authorlink=David Hopkins|url=http://www.pholph.com/aboutme.htm|title=The Man Behind The Cloak|publisher=Jack|accessdate=2007-11-02}}</ref> Since then, ''Jack'' has grown in popularity, with four published comics books, spin-off comic books, and a growing fan base.<ref name="Furplanet">{{cite web|url=http://furplanet.com/shop/category.asp?catid=42|title=Collection of David Hopkins's Published Work|publisher=FurPlanet|accessdate=2007-11-02}}</ref>

The comic has since made references to other comics in the furry fandom, including guest art from furry fandom such as Albert Temple and Candy Dewalt,<ref>{{cite web|last=Temple|first=Albert|url=http://www.pholph.com/index_a.php?Strip=819|title=Short XXXII Part 4: Fnar's Last Days in Hell with art by Sir Albert Temple|publisher=Jack|date=2006-01-06|accessdate=2007-11-23}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|last=Dewalt|first=Candy|url=http://www.pholph.com/index_a.php?Strip=1110|title=Arc XXXI: Eye Opener (With guest artist Candy Dewalt), Strip 1,110|publisher=Jack|date=2007-11-12|accessdate=2007-11-23}}</ref> and also appears in other furry webcomics such as ''[[A Doemain of Our Own]]'' and ''[[Gene Catlow]]''.<ref>{{cite web|last=Rankin|first=Susan|url=http://www.doemain.com/index.cgi/2004-08-30|title=Might Jack lend a claw? (Thank you, Mr. Hopkins!)|publisher=A Doemain of Our Own|date=2004-08-30|accessdate=2007-11-23}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|last=Temple|first=Albert|url=http://www.genecatlow.com/comics/20020809.gif|title=8-9 Cotton is made aware of his potential to affect the entire world!|publisher=Gene Catlow|date=2002-08-09|accessdate=2007-11-23}}</ref>

==Characters==
[[Image:CoverJack2.jpg|right|140 px|thumb|Cover of Jack #2]]
;[[Jack (character)|Jack]]
:The embodiment of wrath, Jack is a wizened green rabbit, wearing a ragged, brown cloak and carrying a scythe. His job is to collect the souls of the dead and lead them to their final judgment as the Grim Reaper. The plot revolves around his attempts to recollect the sins he committed during his life, which have been removed from his memory as part of his punishment.<ref>{{cite web|last=Hopkins|first=David|authorlink=David Hopkins|url=http://www.pholph.com/index_a.php?Strip=279|title=Arc XII: Jack's Friend Fiver, Strip 279|publisher=Jack|date=2002-11-13|accessdate=2007-10-28}}</ref> Due to his lack of memory, little of his life on Earth is known, but he does remember parts when angels from Heaven allow him to. It is known he was created by humans as part of an experiment,<ref>{{cite web|last=Hopkins|first=David|authorlink=David Hopkins|url=http://www.pholph.com/index_a.php?Strip=698|title=Arc XXII: My Mind Returns To Miller Hill, Strip 698|publisher=Jack|date=2005-06-15|accessdate=2007-10-31}}</ref> and his anger was triggered by the death of another similar experiment called "Jill".<ref name="Strip 927"/> He was born without genitalia for fear that he would reproduce. It is also becoming increasingly apparent that most of the embodiment of his sins are related to the falling out of mankind sometime between Jill's death and the beginning of the comic, possibly through direct killing, by way of incurring the "wrath" of Jack.<ref>{{cite web|last=Hopkins|first=David|authorlink=David Hopkins|url=http://www.pholph.com/strip.php?id=5&sid=3076|title=Arc XXXV: Sever The Hunger, Strip 3076-3086|publisher=Jack|date=2009-10-|accessdate=2009-10-16}}</ref>

;[[Fnar]]
:Fnar, who died while still in utero, appears as a child dressed in a blue and green [[Wikipedia:Sailor suit|sailor suit]]. He is missing his nose, because when his form in hell was being created, a crow tore it off. Although Fnar died unborn, and hence without sin, he was sent to Hell, primarily to keep him close to his mother. Curious, trusting, and always smiling, Fnar is unaffected by the horrors of Hell because he died [[Wikipedia:Innocent|innocent]] and [[Wikipedia:vincible ignorance|ignorant]]. He spends much of his time exploring Hell's riotous and fascinating landscape, while occasionally providing companionship to the reaper, Jack, or reuniting with his Hell-bound mother. His name is an acronym for "For No Apparent Reason".

;[[Drip Rat|Drip Tiberius Rat]]
:The embodiment of lust, Drip is a monstrous blue [[rat]] with distinct, black scars around both eyes. In life, Drip was a serial rapist and murderer.<ref>{{cite web|last=Hopkins|first=David|authorlink=David Hopkins|url=http://www.pholph.com/index_a.php?Strip=49|title=Short III: Drip's Lust, Strip 49|publisher=Jack|date=2001-06-13|accessdate=2007-10-28}}</ref> In death, Drip perpetuates these sins and shows no regard for his own redemption, making him a terrific threat to anyone who ventures too near. Jack, in particular, is tormented regularly by Drip. As part of his punishment, Drip is unable to feel any sort of gratification for his sins in Hell. Drip appears in other projects by Hopkins and functions as his nickname.<ref>[http://us.vclart.net/vcl/Artists/Pepe/ David Hopkins's VCL art archive.] Accessed 2007-09-25.</ref>

;[[Farrago]]
:A young angel who often struggles to make sense of the politics of Heaven and Hell. She is portrayed as a [[ferret]] with bloody stumps protruding from her back, suggesting that her wings have been violently removed. A sympathetic character, Farrago develops an affinity for Jack upon their first meeting. She and Jack collaborate against injustices on numerous occasions. During a conversation with Todd, she reveals that in life she was a member of "Her Majesty's Royal Armed Infantry in the days before guns and artillery."

;[[Central]]
:A senior angel who adheres strictly to God's rule. A hybrid, her breed has been described as a "Hodge-Podge." It was revealed that Central and Jack were close during life but currently have a difficult relationship.<ref>{{cite web|last=Hopkins|first=David|authorlink=David Hopkins|url=http://www.pholph.com/index_a.php?Strip=618|title=Arc XIX: Wednesday's Child, Strip 618|publisher=Jack|date=2004-12-08|accessdate=2007-10-31}}</ref> Although Central outwardly expresses a disdain for the reaper, she is, by nature, deeply dedicated to his redemption. She often struggles with her conflicting feelings for him.

;Others
:Other characters include the other five sins, '''[[Vince Van Morrison]]''' (Greed), '''[[Kane|Dr. Kane]]''' (Envy), '''[[Bob Vorsh|Bob]] and [[Lisa Svaloe-Vorsh|Lisa Vorsh]]''' (Gluttony), '''[[Emily]]''' (Vanity) and the unnamed '''[[Sloth]]'''. There are also denizens of Hell, Heaven, Purgatory, and characters living on Earth. '''God''' also makes several appearances as a [[sheep|ewe]].

==Merchandise==
[[Image:JackPlatformGameScreenshot.png|thumb|right|[[Screenshot]] from the ''Jack'' [[Wikipedia:Platform game|platform game]]]]

Four [[comic book]]s containing collections of ''Jack'' comics (also referred to as the "dead tree versions") have been published by [[FurNation]]. These include bonus story arcs not available online. There are also comic books by Hopkins and guest writers set in the same [[Wikipedia:Fictional universe|universe]] as ''Jack''. These are ''Cliff'' (2 issues) and ''Long Island'' (1 issue). The former is a joint project with [[Roz Gibson]], the latter is with Katie Hopkins.<ref name="Furplanet"/> There is a fan-made freeware platform game based on ''Jack''.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.rpgmaker.net/games/35/|title=Jack|publisher=RM Network|date=2007-06-09|accessdate=2007-10-28}}</ref>

{| class="wikitable"
! Name
! Published
! Pages
|-
| ''Jack: Issue #01''
| September 2004
| 32
|-
| ''Jack: Issue #02''
| October 2005
| 32
|-
| ''Jack: Issue #03''
| May 2006
| 32
|-
| ''Jack: Issue #04''
| June 2007
| 36
|-
| ''Cliff: Issue #01''
| January 2005
| 32
|-
| ''Cliff: Issue #02''
| October 2005
| 32
|-
| ''Long Island: Issue #01''
| May 2006
| 32
|}

==Reception==
''Jack'' has a mixed reception. Positive reviews claim ''Jack'' is enjoyable because the story arcs contain meaning and comments on morality. One review of it said, "Each story arc has been deeper than the last, showing the politics and struggles of those that control Heaven and Hell. Each story has a moral to it; a massively deeper meaning that gives the reader a glimpse into his or her own soul. Jack is philosophical. Jack is intense. Jack is violent, sadistic, cruel, merciless, and never holds back a punch. Jack is also perhaps one of the absolute best comics on the web today. It takes an iron stomach to be able to see some of the images that David presents to the reader, but if you can handle it, you'll be hard pressed to disagree."<ref name="Comixtalk"/>

However, critics attacked ''Jack'' because of these attempts to make serious stories. One wrote, "To people who value glitz over substance, ''Jack'' can pass for a deep and thoughtful meditation on the meaning of life, death, retribution and punishment. But stop to think for a moment, and what once looked like depth is really just so much chaos. That's too bad, because ''Jack'' is a comic that so desperately wants to be taken seriously, so desperately wants to shock and appall "the squares" with poorly rendered guts and gore, so desperately wants to be oh so edgy."<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.vivisector.org/vivblog/index.php?/archives/16-Jack.html|title=Jack|publisher=Vivisector|author=The New Meat|date=2005-03-03|accessdate=2010-05-15}}</ref> Others have complained about the use of graphic violence, the way that it deals with Christian issues, and spelling mistakes, with one review saying that, "''Jack'' could benefit from a good editor."<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.masterzdm.com/enter/webcomicbookclub/full.php?cid=24|title=Full Reviews of Jack|publisher=Master Zen Dao Meow|accessdate=2007-11-02}}</ref>

==Awards==
''Jack'' was joint winner of "Best Dramatic Comic" (alongside ''[[Wikipedia:Demonology 101|Demonology 101]]'') at the [[Wikipedia:Web Cartoonist's Choice Awards|Web Cartoonist's Choice Awards]] in [[Wikipedia:2004 Web Cartoonist's Choice Awards|2004]].<ref name="2004 WCCA"/> It was also nominated in [[Wikipedia:2002 Web Cartoonist's Choice Awards|2002]],<ref name="2002Award">{{cite web|url=http://www.ccawards.com/2002.htm|title=2002 Winners and Nominees|publisher=Web Cartoonist Choice Awards|accessdate=2007-10-28}}</ref> [[Wikipedia:2003 Web Cartoonist's Choice Awards|2003]],<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.ccawards.com/2003ceremony/dramatic.htm|title=2003 Best Dramatic Comic|publisher=Web Cartoonist Choice Awards|accessdate=2007-10-28}}</ref> and [[Wikipedia:2005 Web Cartoonist's Choice Awards|2005]].<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.ccawards.com/2005ceremony/dramatic.htm|title=2005 Best Dramatic Comic|publisher=Web Cartoonist Choice Awards|accessdate=2007-10-28}}</ref> In the same ceremony, it was nominated for "Best Anthropomorphic Comic" in 2002 and 2003.<ref name="2002Award"/><ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.ccawards.com/2003ceremony/anthro.htm|title=2003 Best Anthropomorphic Comic|publisher=Web Cartoonist Choice Awards|accessdate=2007-10-28}}</ref> It was also nominated for "Best Environment Design" in 2003 and "Best Story Concept" in 2005.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.ccawards.com/2003ceremony/environment.htm|title=2003 Best Environment Design|publisher=Web Cartoonist Choice Awards|accessdate=2007-10-28}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.ccawards.com/2005ceremony/story.htm|title=2005 Best Dramatic Comic|publisher=Web Cartoonist Choice Awards|accessdate=2007-10-28}}</ref> ''Jack'' was nominated for "Best Anthropomorphic Comic Book or Strip" at the [[Ursa Major Awards]] for 2001 and 2003, and as "Best Graphic Story" for 2009.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.ursamajorawards.org/UMA_2001.htm|title=Award Winners 2001|publisher=Ursa Major Awards|accessdate=2007-10-28}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.ursamajorawards.org/UMA_2003.htm|title=Award Winners 2003|publisher=Ursa Major Awards|accessdate=2007-10-28}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.ursamajorawards.org/nominations.htm|title=2009 Award Nominees |publisher=Ursa Major Awards|accessdate=2010-05-18}}</ref>

==Cameos==
There have been many cameos on ''Jack'', including appearances from [[Pink]], [[Skye Bluedeer]], [[SueDeer]], [[Amber Williams|Mab]], [[Gene Catlow]] & [[Cotton]], [[Vinci & Arty]], [[Silverblue]] and [[Trixi]] & [[Ryan Dewalt|Tet]].
* The comic recently featured what may have been a [http://www.pholph.com/strip.php?id=5&sid=1217 cameo appearance] of [[Uncle Kage]] in the ''Joann and Jeremy'' arc. Depicted as he has usually described the meaning of the name, a roach, he features in the arc as a guest speaker at a wedding in his labcoat delivering a speech about God and love while taking one or two breaks during the speech to sip wine out of a martini glass. He later [http://www.pholph.com/strip.php?id=5&sid=1221 wanders in the crowd], being approached and called by name by the groom and thanked for the speech, to which Kage said "Why thank you m'boy. By the way, I certainly hope you remembered what I said, because I sure don't." This could be due to being drunk when he gave the speech, though. In the same strip, the characters [[Vinci & Arty]] can be seen dancing together in the first panel.
* [[2, the Ranting Gryphon]] is referred to in a Jack [http://www.pholph.com/strip.php?id=5&sid=1312 comic short], in which a "ranting talent agent" whose species is a gryphon has a small '#2' written in over his head.
* The [[Funday Pawpet Show]] is referred to in ''[http://www.pholph.com/strip.php?id=5&sid=1393 Those That Run]''.
* Jack [http://www.doemain.com/index.cgi/2004-08-30 appeared] on ''[[A Doemain of Our Own]]'' as one of the potential explanations for the disappearance of Eric from the plotline
* [[Newshounds]] is referenced in several of the comic strips
* The [[Extinctioners]] appears as a [http://www.pholph.com/strip.php?id=5&sid=3389 cartoon on a television set]

[[Amber Williams|Mab]] of [[Mab's Land]] and [[DMFA]] also drew a series of [[wikipedia:chibi|chibi]]fied versions of the characters of ''Jack''. These are displayed in [http://web.archive.org/web/20080415193221/http://pholph.com/chibi.htm Mab's Chibi Hell].

==References==
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== See also ==
* [[:Category:Jack characters|List of ''Jack'' characters]]

==External links==
* ''[http://www.pholph.com/ Jack]''
* [http://www.pholph.com/forum/ ''Jack'' Forums]
* [irc://irc.anthrochat.net/Jack ''Jack'' IRC Chat]
* [http://webcomicoverlook.com/2009/09/17/the-webcomic-overlook-96-jack/ Review of Jack], September 2009
* [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/326.109198-Webcomic-Review-Interview-with-Jacks-David-Hopkins Webcomic Review: Interview with Jack's David Hopkins] (23 April 2009)
* [http://jack.furries.ru/ Jack, in Russian]
* [http://www.thewebcomiclist.com/p/186/jack Jack] on the Webcomic List
* [http://badwebcomics.wikidot.com/jack Jack] on the Bad Webcomics Wiki

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