Talk:Encyclopædia Dramatica (.es)

2011-08-23T04:32:20Z

Usar:

Yes, hello. Here are some changes that need to be made to the infobox.

Owners: Garrett, E, Joepie91 
Founder: Ryan 
Admins: H64, Meepsheep, Zaiger, JuniusThaddeus, DocEvil, Thayo

The site history should also mention Ryan's arrest. [[User:Ms. S|Ms. S]] 01:21, 17 July 2011 (EDT)

:It would be easy to do it yourself. Of course, Ryan's arrest had to do with LulzSec, not ED. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] ([[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Equivamp|contribs]]) 04:23, 17 July 2011.

== Inaccuracies ==

ED doesn't use "the same liscense (sic) as WikiFur." ED's content isn't licensed under CC-BY-SA 3.0. The host dropped ED because it violated [http://www.securedservers.com/aup.php their AUP]. If anything, the DMCA was just a wake-up call, since they apparently don't visit any of the websites they host unless someone calls their PR department. In addition, CloudFlare isn't a webhost. IIRC, Girlvinyl only DMCA'd her article and not the entire site. I'm not even sure if it's necessary to report every bit of downtime ED has. It's certainly important to us now, but would it mean anything years from now? I would like to suggest the use of citations in order to back any claim, but .ch doesn't receive much attention for some reason. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 00:01, 22 July 2011 (EDT)

You're welcome to fix anything. If something is inaccurate, there's no need to start a discussion on it, just remove it. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]][[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 15:18, 22 July 2011 (EDT)
:Done. I also removed the section on ads. .com's ads were fake, since there weren't any advertisers who wanted to risked affiliating themselves with us. .com's ads were jokes; they were intentionally obscene and distracting. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 17:51, 22 July 2011 (EDT)

== Deletion/merge? ==

This article is only serving as vanity for ED.ch users. ED is '''dead''' and the last thing we need is another article on them. I think this page should be deleted, and the old one restored with a short "mirror" section. <[[User:Ô|o]]> 02:19, 26 July 2011 (EDT)

:ED is run differently and by different people. [[Special:Contributions/174.126.213.241|174.126.213.241]] 02:25, 26 July 2011 (EDT)
::This page is just about some fan site that isn't going to last but a few more months. If someone were to create a WikiFur mirror, would it be WikiFur? No. That is the reason we don't need a page on ED.ch. <[[User:Ô|o]]> 02:29, 26 July 2011 (EDT)

:::>"...isn't going to last a few more months."
:::Willing to bet on that?

:::>"if someone were to create a mirror of WikiFur, would it be WikiFur?"
:::That just further argues that they are two different things that need two different articles. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]][[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 02:32, 26 July 2011 (EDT)

I am certain it won't last a year. It only has about 1/6 of the user base and it's run by moronic kids who have no clue what the hell they are doing. And no, they don't need different articles. ED died and became Ohinternet, then some jackass decided to steal it. We '''do NOT need this article'''. <[[User:Ô|o]]> 02:41, 26 July 2011 (EDT)

:Actually, ED isn't dead. It's at a new domain. They've also been making deals with Girlvinyl, so the ED.com domain may be returned. And, simply because you have the ability to type ad hominem attacks does not make an article less valid. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]][[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 02:49, 26 July 2011 (EDT)

:Do you have any proof of these "deals"? I don't think so. <[[User:Ô|o]]> 02:53, 26 July 2011 (EDT)

If you would like to visit ED's Thizzlehat Junction Center, IRC, or forums, you're more than welcome to. One instamce of a deal being made is that her article be removed so that she would stop false DCMA'ing. I also reccomend talking to a sysop, who would be involved and far more in-the-know than I. Regardless, the article stays. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]][[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 02:58, 26 July 2011 (EDT)

:I don't think I'll be sinking that low anytime soon. And who are ''you'' to decide if the article stays? I came here hoping an admin would review the content, and instead got a brat telling me to go to some stupid ED mirror rather than backing their arguements. <[[User:Ô|o]]> 03:03, 26 July 2011 (EDT)

You seem to only be here to cause drama. And, your ad hominems [[Wikifur:NPA|need to stop]]. If you're unwilling to get information, you've no place in a discussion about information. I don't know who you are, but you're being ridiculous. Please stop your drama-mongering, ED or LJ are the proper mediums for that; it's frowned upon here. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]][[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 03:07, 26 July 2011 (EDT)

:I came here to get an article we don't need taken down. Instead, I got "OH NO THIS SITE IS COOL, HERE GO LOOK". <[[User:Ô|o]]> 03:14, 26 July 2011 (EDT)

::I never said the site was cool, and I only refered you to places in which to find the information you'd asked for. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]][[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 03:17, 26 July 2011 (EDT)

:::Assuming that information can be found there. If you're going to bring that into this, at least provide a source. <[[User:Ô|o]]> 03:20, 26 July 2011 (EDT)
I did. Yoy refused to "sink that low", whatever that means. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]][[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 03:23, 26 July 2011 (EDT)

:You directed me to the "Thizzlehat Junction Center", which I checked and has nothing about this at all. <[[User:Ô|o]]> 03:28, 26 July 2011 (EDT)
Oh really? An entire section is devoted to discussion of that topic. I also provided two other sources in case you were unable to find it. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]][[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 03:32, 26 July 2011 (EDT)
:It provides no real information, just calls for attacks. And no thank you, I don't think I'll be speaking to any of those losers. <[[User:Ô|o]]> 03:35, 26 July 2011 (EDT)
If you refuse to look at information given to you upon asking for it, you're beyond my help. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]][[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 03:38, 26 July 2011 (EDT)
:You claimed that Girlvinyl would be handing over ED's domain. I see nothing of this. <[[User:Ô|o]]> 03:40, 26 July 2011 (EDT)

I claimed nothing of the sort! I said it was a possibility, which is discussed on the TJC. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]][[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 03:45, 26 July 2011 (EDT)

:"They've also been making deals with Girlvinyl, so the ED.com domain may be returned." Hmm... <[[User:Ô|o]]> 03:49, 26 July 2011 (EDT)

My point exactly. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]][[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 03:51, 26 July 2011 (EDT)

Alright, I'm going to focus on why I made this topic, and I hope you will discuss that.
===Back on topic===
Reasons to delete:
*Non-noteable to the fur community
*The site is only a mirror

<[[User:Ô|o]]> 04:07, 26 July 2011 (EDT)

The site has a Portal for "furfaggotry", it's notable.

The site also has content that was not on old ED, furry articles included. Next excuse. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]][[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 04:11, 26 July 2011 (EDT)
:Just because there are a few new (abusive) articles doesn't mean we need a page about a website that is primarily made up of stolen content. <[[User:Ô|o]]> 04:16, 26 July 2011 (EDT)

It isn't stolen content, and it has probably close to 200 furry-related articles. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]][[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 04:19, 26 July 2011 (EDT)

:We are not getting anywhere with you repeating yourself by posting the same things as above. You clearly do not wish to take this seriously, and thus do not belong here. This is why I wanted someone else involved in this. <[[User:Ô|o]]> 13:38, 26 July 2011 (EDT)

This whole thing wasn't serious. The reason no one else got involved is because they know this, but don't find you as humorous as I do. ^^ [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]][[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 13:44, 26 July 2011 (EDT)

No. The reason nobody else was involved is because the admins here only care about page quantity. <[[User:Ô|o]]> 13:58, 26 July 2011 (EDT)

insulting admins=great way to get them involved [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]][[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 14:04, 26 July 2011 (EDT)
:I'm sorry that the lack of admin attention to this site has killed it. No wonder the only people who edit are IPs making vanity articles. <[[User:Ô|o]]> 19:30, 26 July 2011 (EDT)

Really? I see plenty of registered users in the [[Special:Recent Changes|RC]]. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]][[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 19:39, 26 July 2011 (EDT)

:Once again, they are only here to write articles on themselves. <[[User:Ô|o]]> 20:02, 26 July 2011 (EDT)

I have no time for fools. Goodbye. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]][[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 20:09, 26 July 2011 (EDT)
:I also have no time for people like you. I will now wait for an admin to take action. <[[User:Ô|o]]> 21:33, 26 July 2011 (EDT)

== Latest edits ==

*"The forums were '''also down for longer'''(?) after being hacked by "savetheinternet". "For longer" what?
*"savetheinternet", user or , user [[savetheinternet]] in retaliation for (....?) his own site, 4chon.net". in retaliation for?,...
*This incident is localized to Youtube. Don't fluff it up like it shook the whole of the culture.
*If references are on ED.ch's forums, it needs the posts to back it up, not a double loop back to the article's infobox's forum name
- [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 21:34, 22 August 2011 (EDT)

:I have made some minor changes to help clarify. -[[User:Usar|Usar]] 00:32, 23 August 2011 (EDT)

Encyclopædia Dramatica (.es)

2011-08-23T04:28:57Z

Usar:

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{{Infobox website
| title = Encyclopædia Dramatica
| image = [[File:ED.ch.png]]
| author = '''Owners:''' Garrett, E, Joepie91, Zaiger
* '''Site Founder:''' Ryan Cleary
* '''Admins''': H64 [[User:Meepsheep|Meepsheep]], TKN, [[User:Michaeldsuarez|JuniusThaddeus]], Hipcrime, Thayo
| url = [http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/Main_Page encyclopediadramatica.ch]
*'''IRC''': [irc://irc.wtfux.org/ #ed]
*'''Forum''': http://forum.encyclopediadramatica.ch/
| status =
| began = April 2011
| ended = ongoing
| genre = Multimedia archive
| rating = {{Rating-nc17-button}}
}}

'''Encyclopedia Dramatica (.ch)''', is a cached copy of the original, [[Encyclopædia Dramatica (.com)]].

==Complications==
===Down time===

ED.ch saw a day of downtime after the site's founder, [http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/jun/22/ryan-cleary-charged-lulzsec-hacking Ryan Cleary], was arrested for supposed affiliation to [[wikipedia:LulzSec|LulzSec]], the [[troll]] hacker group. The forums were also down after being hacked by user [[savetheinternet]]{{fact}} in retaliation to a massive [[Wikipedia:DDos|DDoS]] attack on his site, 4chon.net<ref>[http://www.dreamhoststatus.com/2011/04/30/major-system-wide-outage/ DDos attack] on 4chon.net</ref>; $300 in donations were needed to revive them, which was raised within 24 hours.

===Member Security===

On June 27, 2011, the ED.ch forums were hacked, and the email adresses of every member were posted to pastebin and published in a blog owned by anti-[[Wikipedia:google|Google]] activist [http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2005-11-10-n36.html Daniel Brandt] entitled '''''Encyclopedia Dramatica: There is no Joseph Evers'''''.<ref>[http://josephevers.blogspot.com/2011/06/troubles-in-encyclopediadramaticach.html "Encyclopedia Dramatica: There is no Joseph Evers"] blog post</ref>

Photos and [[Wikipedia:Dox|Dox]] of some of the more prominent users were also reveal, particularly of the user named "Zaiger". Among other things, logs from the [[wikipedia:IRC|IRC]] that show users in a negative light were posted.

== Encyclopedia Dramatica (.ch) and furry ==

The site contains almost all old ED articles documenting the furry fandom and furry-related topics, with current interactions with ED.ch almost non-existent.

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