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SR Foxley

2008-05-14T15:15:11Z

Teeka: I really don't think it's necessary to have that information.

'''SR Foxley''' was the webmaster and volunteer coordinator at [[All Fur Fun]] in the spring of 2007. His [[fursona]] is a [[Red Fox]].

== External links ==

* [http://sr.fo.cx/ SR Foxley's Hole in the Ground]
* ''[http://sr-foxley.livejournal.com/ SR's random ramblings]'' at [[LiveJournal]]

{{Person-stub}}

[[Category:People]]
[[Category:Red Fox characters]]
[[Category:Writers]]
[[Category:Furry pilots]]
[[Category:Webmasters]][[Category:Washington]]

Talk:All Fur Fun

2007-10-05T15:17:47Z

Teeka: Baroo?

{{featured}}
== All Fur Fun Zero? ==

I've seen a [[Ayukawataur|reference]] to the first annual AFF (2007) as "All Fur Fun 0" (like [[Califur 0]] and [[ConFurence 0]]). Can someone verify and elaborate if this is officially so? --[[User:Frizzy|Frizzy]] 21:02, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
:I don't believe we are officially calling it AFF 0. We've just been referring to it as AFF 2007. — '''[[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]]''' ([[User talk:KieferSkunk|talk]]) — 19:14, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

==Just to be pedantic==
Re: [{{fullurl:All_Fur_Fun&diff=138837&oldid=137740}} this edit], 21.5 cm tall by 18 cm = 8.5 x 7 inches :-) ----[[User:DuncanDaHusky|DuncanDaHusky]]([[User talk:DuncanDaHusky|talk]]) 19:28, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
: Well, let's just include both measure systems so that we can at least try to please Greeks and Trojans. [[User:Ekevu|Ekevu]] 02:45, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
:: To settle this: Quite simply, the paper for which the book was designed and on which it was printed is standard US Legal size, folded once to create Half-Legal pages. US Legal is defined in inches and thus metric measures are an after-the-fact approximation. Believe me when I say that my use of the Imperial measurement system isn't intended as a slight toward anybody nor is it the result of ignorance on my part; seriously, it's merely a concession to the reality of what paper sizes were available to get a pleasant yet slightly atypical page size without expensive cutting. [[User:Tracerj|Tracerj]] 03:12, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
:::The measurements I added to the article were found by checking my copy of the conbook with a ruler, so they aren't aproximations except insofar as any physical meaurement is. I used metric measurements because those are the standard I habitually use in bibliographical description, following the Anglo-American Cataloguing Rules (second edition, 2002 revision, 2003 update). The article now includes both metric and imperial units, thanks to Ekevu; I perceive no reason to have only one set of numbers or the other. -- [[User:KDelany|KDelany]] 06:52, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

== All Fur Fun 2008 ==
There have been lots of updates on the site, news and forums. I'd update the All Fur Fun wiki myself, but I tend to...um...suck at it. XD A few highlights... the official dates for AFF '08 are April 18 - 20, 2008, and the con will be held again next year at the Ridpath hotel. The theme for '08 is Pajama Party. The GoH is FoxyFennec (by the same name on FurAffinity). Thanks to whoever takes the time to update, I really really appreciate it, with love and lovesprinkles! [[User:Teeka|Teeka]] 09:12, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
:I updated the main article page for ya. :) — '''[[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]]''' ([[User talk:KieferSkunk|talk]]) — 20:57, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
::Thanks much! But um...we HAVE announced the theme. It's Pajama Party! :D ...also, I'm an idiot. *signs* [[User:Teeka|Teeka]] 21:21, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

== Vandalism? ==
I noticed the tag on the page itself, saying the page will be locked until the vandalism has been abated. What vandalism? o.o I'm just curious, I have nothing to add to the page right now. XD --[[User:Teeka|Teeka]] 15:17, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Azzy Blue

2007-08-16T11:03:54Z

Teeka: A small request. :D

Was thinking of adding [http://www.djvixn.furtopia.org/ DJ Vix-N website] to External links section, but I'm not sure what words should accompany the link ("DJ Vix-N site is no longer being updated"? "music done under disused name"? --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 20:25, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Would someone please kindly remove the fursuit picture on this page? I actually no longer own that fursuit, and I don't want its current owner to be bombarded with "Hey! You're Teeka!" more than they have to. ;D Feel free to use pretty much any other picture of me (human or furry) you like. :D [[User:Teeka|Teeka]] 11:03, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

All Fur Fun

2007-07-28T04:54:22Z

Teeka: Stating 2008's theme.

[[Image:AllFurFun.png|right|150px|All Fur Fun]]
'''All Fur Fun''' is a [[furry]] [[convention]] that was first held from Friday March 30 to Sunday April 1, 2007 at the Ridpath Hotel in [[Wikipedia:Spokane, Washington|Spokane, Washington]], U.S.A. All Fur Fun 2008 is still being planned, but is now set for April 18-20, 2008, in the same location.

==All Fur Fun 2008==
In July 2007, All Fur Fun staff announced some preliminary details about All Fur Fun 2008. The convention will take place on April 18-20, 2008, and will be held at the same hotel (the Ridpath) as in the previous year. Staff also announced that [[FoxyFennec]] will be 2008's Guest of Honor. "Pajama Party" will be the theme. Additional details, such as the con's events and when pre-registration will open, have not yet been announced.<ref>[http://forum.allfurfun.com/viewtopic.php?t=146 "Welcome to 2008 Planning!"] in the All Fur Fun forum. Retrieved July 25, 2007.</ref>

==All Fur Fun 2007==
Registered attendance for the first All Fur Fun cost $30 before March 1, and $40 afterwards, with [[sponsorship]] levels of $100 and $250 beyond that. Hotel rates were $60 for up to 4 occupants, $10 for each additional person.

95 people pre-registered, and 84 of these attended. The total attendance for 2007 was 110, with 26 people registering at the door.<ref>''[http://community.livejournal.com/allfurfun/6255.html All Fur Fun 2007 Registration Statistics]'' by [[KieferSkunk]] in the [http://community.livejournal.com/allfurfun/ All Fur Fun LiveJournal]</ref>

Features included a [[Dealers Den|dealers den]], an [[art show]] and voice [[art aucton|auction]], several crafting and [[fursuit]]ing events, a [[fursuit parade]], a dance, and an ice cream social.

===Events===
The following panels and events took place at the 2007 convention:

*Make and Take Crafts: Working With and Painting Clay
*Fursuit Head and Body Building
*Whose Fur Is It Anyway?
*Packs, Prides and Leaps: Alternative Relationships and Lifestyles (hosted by [[Purr Meow]])
*What Does Furry Mean to You? (Roundtable philosophical discussion)
*Whose Fur Is It Anyway? (Furry-themed improv comedy)
*[[Wikipedia:Exquisite Corpse|Exquisite Corpse]] Reading by KieferSkunk<ref name="satschedule">Schedule: Saturday, March 31, in All Fur Fun 2007 conbook, p. 10.</ref>
*Writing Panel with [[Phil Geusz]]
*Visit by the [http://www.wolfpeople.com Wolf People] of [[Wikipedia:Sandpoint, Idaho|Sandpoint, Idaho]], with a live [[wolf]]
*Meet the [[Guest of Honor]]: [[Shadow Wolf|Katie Hofgard]] (aka. Wolf Nymph and Shadow Wolf)
*Art Techniques Panel
*Feedback Session

A panel on [[Second Life]] had also been scheduled, but was cancelled because the panel's host, [[Haphaestes]],<ref name="satschedule"/> could not attend.

===Sponsors===

In February 2007, approximately a month before the start of its first convention, All Fur Fun received a donation from former [[Conifur Northwest]] staff, consisting of a large number of art-show panels, a registration desk, several boxes of supplies, miscellaneous computer and electronic equipment, and a box full of plushies. In return for the donation, [[Flinthoof|Dan "Flinthoof" Canaan]] (former Conifur chairman) and [[Tibo|James "Tibo" Birdsall]] (Conifur founder) were named as All Fur Fun sponsors.<ref>''[http://community.livejournal.com/allfurfun/4488.html Special thanks to the former staff of Conifur!]'' by [[KieferSkunk]] in the [http://community.livejournal.com/allfurfun/ All Fur Fun LiveJournal]</ref>

In addition, two more people, [[Bahumat]] (of the [[Edmonton Furry Cabal]]) and [[Zyzxx]], sponsored the 2007 convention.

===Staff===

* [[Moorcat]] - Chairman
* [[Teeka|Teeka Foxley]] - Public Relations, Event Coordinator
* [[SR Foxley]] - Webmaster, Volunteer Coordinator
* [[KieferSkunk]] - Web Developer, Head of Registration
* [[Firebringer]] - General Paperwork, Dealers Den and Art Sales
* [[Zinnthra|Li'l Red]] - Head of [[Art show]]
* [[Lupercus]] - Head of Security
* [[Electric Keet]] - Publications Head

=== Conbook ===

The All Fur Fun 2007 [[conbook]] is 32 pages at 8.5 inches (21.5 cm) tall by 7 inches (18 cm) wide, and is designed by the publications head, Electric Keet. The front and back covers are in color, the front with artwork by [[WolfNymph]] and the back with the All Fur Fun logo. The black and white interior of the conbook includes a message from the chairman, Moorcat; information about WolfNymph, the guest of honor, and about Wolf People; the All Fur Fun 2007 schedule, staff bios, and policy. Also included are three short stories: "Lke Mother Like Daughter, Like Father Like Son" by [[Will A. Sanborn]], "Wolven by Night" by [[Belinda D'Auteuil|Belinda "Raven" D'Auteuil]], and "Intervention" by [[Kristina Tracer]]. Interior artwork is by WolfNymph, [[Jim Johnson]], [[Skychaser]], [[SeaSenshi]], [[ReDaDillio]], [[Daniel Keller]], and [[Asandria]] aka Monica Squires (misprinted as Barbara Squires).<ref>[http://forum.allfurfun.com/viewtopic.php?t=138 Conbook, slight issue but no big deal]. April 6, 2007 post by [[Asandria]] to the All Fur Fun forum. Retrieved April 7, 2007.</ref>

== References ==
<references/>

== External links ==
{{WikiFurNews|Conifur Northwest cancelled for good; assets given to All Fur Fun}}
* [http://www.allfurfun.com/ All Fur Fun website] and [http://forum.allfurfun.com/ forum]
* [http://community.livejournal.com/allfurfun/ All Fur Fun] at [[LiveJournal]]
* [http://www.theridpathhotel.com/ The Ridpath Hotel] in Spokane, Washington, U.S.A.
* {{con resources}}

[[Category:Conventions]]
[[Category:Washington]]
[[Category:2007 births]]

Talk:All Fur Fun

2007-07-25T21:21:04Z

Teeka: /* All Fur Fun 2008 */

== All Fur Fun Zero? ==

I've seen a [[Ayukawataur|reference]] to the first annual AFF (2007) as "All Fur Fun 0" (like [[Califur 0]] and [[ConFurence 0]]). Can someone verify and elaborate if this is officially so? --[[User:Frizzy|Frizzy]] 21:02, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
:I don't believe we are officially calling it AFF 0. We've just been referring to it as AFF 2007. — '''[[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]]''' ([[User talk:KieferSkunk|talk]]) — 19:14, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

==Just to be pedantic==
Re: [{{fullurl:All_Fur_Fun&diff=138837&oldid=137740}} this edit], 21.5 cm tall by 18 cm = 8.5 x 7 inches :-) ----[[User:DuncanDaHusky|DuncanDaHusky]]([[User talk:DuncanDaHusky|talk]]) 19:28, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
: Well, let's just include both measure systems so that we can at least try to please Greeks and Trojans. [[User:Ekevu|Ekevu]] 02:45, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
:: To settle this: Quite simply, the paper for which the book was designed and on which it was printed is standard US Legal size, folded once to create Half-Legal pages. US Legal is defined in inches and thus metric measures are an after-the-fact approximation. Believe me when I say that my use of the Imperial measurement system isn't intended as a slight toward anybody nor is it the result of ignorance on my part; seriously, it's merely a concession to the reality of what paper sizes were available to get a pleasant yet slightly atypical page size without expensive cutting. [[User:Tracerj|Tracerj]] 03:12, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
:::The measurements I added to the article were found by checking my copy of the conbook with a ruler, so they aren't aproximations except insofar as any physical meaurement is. I used metric measurements because those are the standard I habitually use in bibliographical description, following the Anglo-American Cataloguing Rules (second edition, 2002 revision, 2003 update). The article now includes both metric and imperial units, thanks to Ekevu; I perceive no reason to have only one set of numbers or the other. -- [[User:KDelany|KDelany]] 06:52, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

== All Fur Fun 2008 ==
There have been lots of updates on the site, news and forums. I'd update the All Fur Fun wiki myself, but I tend to...um...suck at it. XD A few highlights... the official dates for AFF '08 are April 18 - 20, 2008, and the con will be held again next year at the Ridpath hotel. The theme for '08 is Pajama Party. The GoH is FoxyFennec (by the same name on FurAffinity). Thanks to whoever takes the time to update, I really really appreciate it, with love and lovesprinkles! [[User:Teeka|Teeka]] 09:12, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
:I updated the main article page for ya. :) — '''[[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]]''' ([[User talk:KieferSkunk|talk]]) — 20:57, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
::Thanks much! But um...we HAVE announced the theme. It's Pajama Party! :D ...also, I'm an idiot. *signs* [[User:Teeka|Teeka]] 21:21, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Talk:All Fur Fun

2007-07-25T21:20:35Z

Teeka:

Talk:All Fur Fun

2007-07-25T09:12:09Z

Teeka: AFF '08 Stuff!

FurBuy

2007-04-17T07:19:20Z

Teeka: I don't work on FurBuy anymore (Haven't for years).

[[Image:Furbuylogo04.gif|right|FurBuy logo]]
'''FurBuy''' is an internet-based auction website primarily geared for selling [[furry]] items and items of interest to [[furry fans]].

* '''Address:''' http://www.furbuy.com/
* '''Founder:''' [[Jurann]]
* '''Administrators:''' [[Oskar]], Jurann
* '''Ran from/to:''' 1 December 2000 - present
* '''Mottos:''' ''Your Best Source for FREE Live Furry Auctions''

== History ==

The system was custom-made by Jurann and went live to the public on 1 December 2000. Prior to release, several months of research, development and beta-testing by actual [[:Category:Artists|artists]] was performed; the entire pre-launch process took approximately 10 months to complete.

Initially FurBuy was based on a system that charged small fees for listing and closing auctions as well as enhanced features offered to sellers. After a couple of weeks of live service, it was decided that all fees would be dropped for use of the system due to a lack of users' desire to pay for such features. Since then the system has been completely free. FurBuy's features include image management/hosting, live auction status on foreign websites, co-branding capability and SMS/text-messaging.

== Current status ==

FurBuy is still hosting live auctions and is continually maintained and updated by Jurann based on user feedback and interest. It is scheduled for re-launch on July 15, 2006.

== External links ==

* [http://community.livejournal.com/furbuy/ FurBuy Auction Community] on [[LiveJournal]]

[[Category:Auction websites]]
[[Category:2000 births]]

Talk:FurFest Northwest

2007-04-13T01:21:43Z

Teeka: /* Not quite dead yet */ Addition of more recent links

== Controversy section? ==

The [http://community.livejournal.com/furfestnw/ FurFest Northwest] community on [[LiveJournal]] has been deleted, but I remember reading some discussion there concerning the name similarity to [[Midwest Furfest]]; there might be some reference to that elsewhere as well.

A number of other concerns were raised in [http://community.livejournal.com/artists_beware/87990.html a post to artists_beware] (again, on LiveJournal) last week, with considerable discussion going on in comments. -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 21:06, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

:Just did some cleanup and added a controversy section. -- [[User:Frizzy|Frizzy]] 09:44, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

:Re: Sine's comment about discussion about the name similarity issue on the FurFest Northwest community - yes, there was a long thread between Rex and Silly_Otter at the beginning of July, where S_O brought up several important legal points about why appropriation of the name might be a bad idea, presented in a calm, helpful manner. Rex pretty much shouted him down on the basis of "you're just some 19 year old kid from thousands of miles away whose opinion doesn't matter." Rex deleted the thread on the afternoon of July 4. ----[[User:DuncanDaHusky|DuncanDaHusky]]([[User talk:DuncanDaHusky|talk]]) 12:26, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

== Link(s) to alternatives? ==

Does anybody mind if I repost a link to [[RainFurrest]] for the Pacific Northwesters? This isn't about being opportunistic since I'm not even from Washington, but I love the area and it'd be nice to help the locals find a con in their region. -- [[User:Frizzy|Frizzy]] 09:44, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

:Honestly, I don't think a link to RainFurrest is appropriate. There are other ways that a person can find conventions in the Washington area (like maybe looking at the front page of the site) and I don't see any other way for it to be read besides being opportunistic, even if that isn't the original intention. ----[[User:DuncanDaHusky|DuncanDaHusky]]([[User talk:DuncanDaHusky|talk]]) 12:17, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

::Okee doke =^_^= -- [[User:Frizzy|Frizzy]] 13:12, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

:It would be nice if there was a category to be linked in to. Cons -> Cons by Region. --[[User:Blueroo|Blueroo]] 09:54, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

== Lawsuit threat? ==

Quoting from the article:
:''culminating in Con Chair Rex Wolf threatening to bring a lawsuit against the person originally bring up concerns about the con.''
Can we geta cititation on this? It sounds pretty serious. --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 15:46, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

:I believe that is a reference to [http://rex-beowulf.livejournal.com/38191.html this post].
''Now I have to figure out if I'm willing to go through legal routes to defend FFN.''
''The guy is violating the law and slandering FFN.''
:I seem to recall the threat was mentioned elsewhere as well, though.----[[User:DuncanDaHusky|DuncanDaHusky]]([[User talk:DuncanDaHusky|talk]]) 16:09, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Although Rex deleted the official threat, I still have a copy of [http://www.seattlefenix.net/ffnw/lawsuit.html the post on the FFNW Bulletin Board] where he made the request asking a nebulous "you" if he should pursue legal action. He also made reference to legal action on [http://rex-beowulf.livejournal.com/38191.html his livejournal]. --[[User:Blueroo|Blueroo]] 23:58, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

: Good lord. Just who does he think he is? Oh well, that's good enough for me, thanks for providing the link! --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 02:20, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

::Dmuth, don't you know that the internet is '''SERIOUS BUSINESS'''? [[User:SpazKitty|Spaz Kitty]] 02:23, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

::: B-b-b-but... I thought the Internet was '''COMEDY GOLD'''? --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 02:54, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

::::No, no, the internet '''IS A SERIES OF TUBES''' [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 03:12, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

:::::The Internet is '''''FOR [[pornography|PORN]]''''' --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 03:27, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

== Not quite dead yet ==

[http://www.furfestnorthwest.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=19 I'm not quite sure to make of this.] Is the con still being held or not? There's not going to be a hotel, but there will be "a fursuiting event". Is this worth writing about in the main article? --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 02:35, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

: Doesn't look like the con's going to be held this year, still. Maybe something in spring. Other than that, it seems a rehash of the last paragraph of the text quoted in the article: that people can come, go see the wolves, and fursuit. --[[User:DataBank|DataBank]] 03:21, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

:: Rather condescending, isn't he? Also, now he's talking about trying to revive the con next Spring. That'll be interesting, considering other conventions (possibly) happening in that time frame. :P — [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 22:10, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

::: Allow me to post a couple links... [http://rex-beowulf.livejournal.com/102702.html Rex throwing up his hands and blaming everyone else for his decision to not run the con] and [http://rex-beowulf.livejournal.com/98797.html More blame game.] [[User:Teeka|Teeka]] 01:21, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

== Comments from 4.242.144.104 ==
(Context [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=FurFest_Northwest&diff=prev&oldid=130129 here])
:(Rex: there was NEVER a THREAT of legal action; there was a request for feedback on whether legal recourse should be considered in an effort to save FurFest Northwest due to the lible by Blueroo in his post on Artist_Beware.)
:(Rex: This is not true. One attempt was made to contact me directly via an email address no longer used for con business by Wicked Sairah, wife of Blueroo, the one who initiated the lies about FFN planning)
:(Rex: this is not true either, only ONE post was deleted, which was an attempt by SR Foxley to scare people away from the con by indicating that the hotel had burned to the ground and the con would not take place - totally untrue and thus deletion was justified.)
:(Rex: The board was made admin only due to spambots and repeated attempts by certain persons to attack FurFest Northwest. Coincidentally, Kieferskunk, one of those attacking the board, was on staff of All Fur Fun also.
:(Rex: yup, because I was putting out $25/month of my own money to fund it.)
:(Rex: This was because they were recruited by SR Foxley, who funded Fun Fur All to the tune of $5,000 out of his own pocket, effectively bribing the FFN staff BEFORE FFN was cancelled.)
:(Rex: Summary: FurFest Northwest was an attempt to replace ConifurNW, which was cancelled 4 months prior to its scheduled time. I made every effort to plan this con to the best of my abilities. It would have been successful had it not been for the collusion between SR Foxley, Blueroo, and Wicked Sairah; who perpetuated untrue rumors about FurFest Northwest. I really enjoy how this article was written without contacting the staff to get the facts.)
{{unsigned|4.242.144.104}}

::A whole $25/month? Wow, that's some dedication.

:: Sarcasm aside, you make some pretty serious accusations there, Rex. I see accusations against Blueroo, Wicked Sairah, SR Foxley, Kieferskunk, and "spambots" covering things from libel, bribery and "collusion".

:: I hope that you have some evidence to back these statements up. --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 02:54, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

::: He doesn't. Rex has a way of making up things and believing them to be true (or rather, greatly enhancing the details of certain events). For instance, SR had made a note on the FFNW board saying there had been a small fire and Rex may want to look into it. Rather than reassuring people and answering that everything was fine, he deleted the message, which of course made people worried and angry (unfortunately we didn't have the foresight to save a copy of that message, or I'd be glad to paste it here. We didn't know the extent of Rex's "management skills.") I could go on. The staff of All Fur Fun has decided to ignore Rex and leave him alone, and yet he continues to slander us in his journal. I apologize if this brings up unnecessary drama, but I wanted to be able to actually say our side of the story in a place that it would not be deleted. I'm tired of keeping my mouth shut on this issue. [[User:Teeka|Teeka]] 03:22, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

::::Might I just add that Rex MIGHT have some evidence to back up his claims if he hadn't deleted it from his message board. :P — '''[[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]]''' ([[User talk:KieferSkunk|talk]]) — 23:06, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

::::For some actual facts in this, by the way: All Fur Fun was founded by Moorcat, one of Rex's staff, after FFNW had been cancelled. The concept of All Fur Fun had not even been discussed amongst the group of friends that became AFF's staff until well after FFNW was cancelled. While it is true that SR funded a large portion of the convention out of his own pocket, it was neither a bribe nor an offer of money for anyone else in the group. Rather, we like to think of it as a case where friends who work well together can actually come together and make something good actually happen. — '''[[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]]''' ([[User talk:KieferSkunk|talk]]) — 23:25, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Talk:FurFest Northwest

2007-04-11T03:22:48Z

Teeka: AFF's side

== Controversy section? ==

The [http://community.livejournal.com/furfestnw/ FurFest Northwest] community on [[LiveJournal]] has been deleted, but I remember reading some discussion there concerning the name similarity to [[Midwest Furfest]]; there might be some reference to that elsewhere as well.

A number of other concerns were raised in [http://community.livejournal.com/artists_beware/87990.html a post to artists_beware] (again, on LiveJournal) last week, with considerable discussion going on in comments. -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 21:06, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

:Just did some cleanup and added a controversy section. -- [[User:Frizzy|Frizzy]] 09:44, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

:Re: Sine's comment about discussion about the name similarity issue on the FurFest Northwest community - yes, there was a long thread between Rex and Silly_Otter at the beginning of July, where S_O brought up several important legal points about why appropriation of the name might be a bad idea, presented in a calm, helpful manner. Rex pretty much shouted him down on the basis of "you're just some 19 year old kid from thousands of miles away whose opinion doesn't matter." Rex deleted the thread on the afternoon of July 4. ----[[User:DuncanDaHusky|DuncanDaHusky]]([[User talk:DuncanDaHusky|talk]]) 12:26, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

== Link(s) to alternatives? ==

Does anybody mind if I repost a link to [[RainFurrest]] for the Pacific Northwesters? This isn't about being opportunistic since I'm not even from Washington, but I love the area and it'd be nice to help the locals find a con in their region. -- [[User:Frizzy|Frizzy]] 09:44, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

:Honestly, I don't think a link to RainFurrest is appropriate. There are other ways that a person can find conventions in the Washington area (like maybe looking at the front page of the site) and I don't see any other way for it to be read besides being opportunistic, even if that isn't the original intention. ----[[User:DuncanDaHusky|DuncanDaHusky]]([[User talk:DuncanDaHusky|talk]]) 12:17, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

::Okee doke =^_^= -- [[User:Frizzy|Frizzy]] 13:12, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

:It would be nice if there was a category to be linked in to. Cons -> Cons by Region. --[[User:Blueroo|Blueroo]] 09:54, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

== Lawsuit threat? ==

Quoting from the article:
:''culminating in Con Chair Rex Wolf threatening to bring a lawsuit against the person originally bring up concerns about the con.''
Can we geta cititation on this? It sounds pretty serious. --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 15:46, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

:I believe that is a reference to [http://rex-beowulf.livejournal.com/38191.html this post].
''Now I have to figure out if I'm willing to go through legal routes to defend FFN.''
''The guy is violating the law and slandering FFN.''
:I seem to recall the threat was mentioned elsewhere as well, though.----[[User:DuncanDaHusky|DuncanDaHusky]]([[User talk:DuncanDaHusky|talk]]) 16:09, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Although Rex deleted the official threat, I still have a copy of [http://www.seattlefenix.net/ffnw/lawsuit.html the post on the FFNW Bulletin Board] where he made the request asking a nebulous "you" if he should pursue legal action. He also made reference to legal action on [http://rex-beowulf.livejournal.com/38191.html his livejournal]. --[[User:Blueroo|Blueroo]] 23:58, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

: Good lord. Just who does he think he is? Oh well, that's good enough for me, thanks for providing the link! --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 02:20, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

::Dmuth, don't you know that the internet is '''SERIOUS BUSINESS'''? [[User:SpazKitty|Spaz Kitty]] 02:23, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

::: B-b-b-but... I thought the Internet was '''COMEDY GOLD'''? --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 02:54, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

::::No, no, the internet '''IS A SERIES OF TUBES''' [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 03:12, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

:::::The Internet is '''''FOR [[pornography|PORN]]''''' --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 03:27, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

== Not quite dead yet ==

[http://www.furfestnorthwest.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=19 I'm not quite sure to make of this.] Is the con still being held or not? There's not going to be a hotel, but there will be "a fursuiting event". Is this worth writing about in the main article? --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 02:35, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

: Doesn't look like the con's going to be held this year, still. Maybe something in spring. Other than that, it seems a rehash of the last paragraph of the text quoted in the article: that people can come, go see the wolves, and fursuit. --[[User:DataBank|DataBank]] 03:21, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

:: Rather condescending, isn't he? Also, now he's talking about trying to revive the con next Spring. That'll be interesting, considering other conventions (possibly) happening in that time frame. :P — [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 22:10, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

== Comments from 4.242.144.104 ==
(Context [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=FurFest_Northwest&diff=prev&oldid=130129 here])
:(Rex: there was NEVER a THREAT of legal action; there was a request for feedback on whether legal recourse should be considered in an effort to save FurFest Northwest due to the lible by Blueroo in his post on Artist_Beware.)
:(Rex: This is not true. One attempt was made to contact me directly via an email address no longer used for con business by Wicked Sairah, wife of Blueroo, the one who initiated the lies about FFN planning)
:(Rex: this is not true either, only ONE post was deleted, which was an attempt by SR Foxley to scare people away from the con by indicating that the hotel had burned to the ground and the con would not take place - totally untrue and thus deletion was justified.)
:(Rex: The board was made admin only due to spambots and repeated attempts by certain persons to attack FurFest Northwest. Coincidentally, Kieferskunk, one of those attacking the board, was on staff of All Fur Fun also.
:(Rex: yup, because I was putting out $25/month of my own money to fund it.)
:(Rex: This was because they were recruited by SR Foxley, who funded Fun Fur All to the tune of $5,000 out of his own pocket, effectively bribing the FFN staff BEFORE FFN was cancelled.)
:(Rex: Summary: FurFest Northwest was an attempt to replace ConifurNW, which was cancelled 4 months prior to its scheduled time. I made every effort to plan this con to the best of my abilities. It would have been successful had it not been for the collusion between SR Foxley, Blueroo, and Wicked Sairah; who perpetuated untrue rumors about FurFest Northwest. I really enjoy how this article was written without contacting the staff to get the facts.)
{{unsigned|4.242.144.104}}

::A whole $25/month? Wow, that's some dedication.

:: Sarcasm aside, you make some pretty serious accusations there, Rex. I see accusations against Blueroo, Wicked Sairah, SR Foxley, Kieferskunk, and "spambots" covering things from libel, bribery and "collusion".

:: I hope that you have some evidence to back these statements up. --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 02:54, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

::: He doesn't. Rex has a way of making up things and believing them to be true (or rather, greatly enhancing the details of certain events). For instance, SR had made a note on the FFNW board saying there had been a small fire and Rex may want to look into it. Rather than reassuring people and answering that everything was fine, he deleted the message, which of course made people worried and angry (unfortunately we didn't have the foresight to save a copy of that message, or I'd be glad to paste it here. We didn't know the extent of Rex's "management skills.") I could go on. The staff of All Fur Fun has decided to ignore Rex and leave him alone, and yet he continues to slander us in his journal. I apologize if this brings up unnecessary drama, but I wanted to be able to actually say our side of the story in a place that it would not be deleted. I'm tired of keeping my mouth shut on this issue. [[User:Teeka|Teeka]] 03:22, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

All Fur Fun

2006-11-21T21:55:35Z

Teeka:

'''All Fur Fun''' is a new [[furry]] [[convention]] that will be held from March 30 to April 1, 2007 at the Ridpath Hotel in [[Wikipedia:Spokane, Washington|Spokane, Washington]]. Planned features include a [[Dealers Den]] and [[Artists Alley]], [[fursuit]]ing events and writing, craft, [[Second Life]] and [[furry lifestyler|lifestyle]] panels. [[Katie Hofgard]] (Wolf Nymph/Shadow Wolf) is the first year's [[guest of honor]].

Registered attendance costs $30 before March 1, and $40 afterwards, with [[sponsorship]] levels of $100 and $250 beyond that. Hotel rates are $80 for 1 or 2 room occupants, $90 for 3 or 4 occupants.

== Staff ==

* [[Moorcat]] - chairman
* [[Teeka|Teeka Foxley]] - public relations
* [[SR Foxley]] - website
* [[KieferSkunk]] - website, registration
* [[Firebringer]] - dealers den and art sales, general paperwork
* [[Zinnthra|Li'l Red]] - Head of [[art show]]
* [[Lupercus]] - Head of [[security]]

== External links ==
* [http://www.allfurfun.com/ All Fur Fun website] and [http://forum.allfurfun.com/ forum]
* [http://community.livejournal.com/allfurfun/ All Fur Fun] at [[LiveJournal]]
* [http://hotels.cnghotels.com/hotels-na_us_wa_spokane_westcoastridpathhotel-hotels.html Westcoast Ridpath Hotel]

[[Category:Proposed conventions]]
[[Category:Washington]]
[[Category:2007 births]]

All Fur Fun

2006-11-14T23:47:17Z

Teeka: Small edits to wording, fixing a bit of inaccurate information :)

'''All Fur Fun''' is a new [[furry]] [[convention]] that will be held from March 30 to April 1, 2007 at the Ridpath Hotel in [[Wikipedia:Spokane, Washington|Spokane, Washington]]. Planned features include a [[Dealers Den]] and [[Artists Alley]], [[fursuit]]ing events and writing, craft, [[Second Life]] and [[furry lifestyler|lifestyle]] panels. [[Katie Hofgard]] (Wolf Nymph/Shadow Wolf) is the first year's [[guest of honor]].

Registered attendance costs $30 before March 1, and $40 afterwards, with [[sponsorship]] levels of $100 and $250 beyond that. Hotel rates are $80 for 1 or 2 room occupants, $90 for 3 or 4 occupants.

== Staff ==

* [[Moorcat]] - chairman
* [[Teeka|Teeka Foxley]] - public relations
* [[SR Foxley]] - website
* [[KieferSkunk]] - website, registration
* [[Firebringer]] - dealers den and art sales, general paperwork
* [[Li'l Red]] - Head of [[art show]]
* [[Lupercus]] - Head of [[security]]

== External links ==
* [http://www.allfurfun.com/ All Fur Fun website] and [http://forum.allfurfun.com/ forum]
* [http://community.livejournal.com/allfurfun/ All Fur Fun] at [[LiveJournal]]
* [http://hotels.cnghotels.com/hotels-na_us_wa_spokane_westcoastridpathhotel-hotels.html Westcoast Ridpath Hotel]

[[Category:Proposed conventions]]
[[Category:Washington]]
[[Category:2007 births]]

User talk:GreenReaper

2006-11-11T02:36:19Z

Teeka: More All Fur Fun stuff!

{{User talk:GreenReaper/Header}}

== Welcome Response September 12, 2006 ==

Thank you, GreenReaper. I kinda stumbled across this site yesterday and decided to 1. Create an account and 2. Make my page. I was quite flattered to find my name listed in the DJ section of Rainbow Tiger's page, so I got my hooves wet and started a personal page. I'll try to keep it rated PG, but we'll have to see what happens. I'll have a placeholder up for a while with many ... many edits while I figure out the syntax.

[[Heuvadoches Naumova]]

== Welcome response ==

You're welcome! I'll be sure to let you know if I need any help. =^.^= -[[User:Alfador|Alfador]]

Thanks, GR. -- [[User:VederJuda|VederJuda]] 10:54, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

== [[PAINWOLF]] ==
Name painwolf I need to talk to about my page.

Contact Info:
Yahoo and AIM: NL4PAINWOLF
MSN: PAINWOLF@hotmail.com

E-mails: PAINWOLF@gmail.com

:''Replied'' --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 02:58, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

== Norn ==

Ok, so i guess the question is, why is there a norn running around on the furry edit link ... it seems to hide if I try to interact directly. Do you have more info? -- [[User:Mongoose|Amar Shadowpaws]] 14:25, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

:I think his name is Hebe. He followed me over from the [[w:c:Creatures|Creatures Wiki]]. I've not had the time to catch him and release him back into [[w:c:Creatures:Albia|the wild]] yet. Besides, he likes to help out - he's done a good job at finishing off the stubs people leave around. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 18:04, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

==Thanks for coming to lunch ==

Here are my [http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Wikimania_Notes notes] from our lunch. We will start working hard to get more information out on where the features and bug fixes are going. I really appreciated your support and encouragement, not too mention chatting with you at dinner Thursday. [http://world.wikia.com/wiki/User:Gil Gil]| [http://world.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Gil talk]

==Response to Welcome==
Just wanna say thanks for the greeting, I'll be sure to ask if I need help with anything ;)

Thanks for greeting me. I had to make my own page look a little spiffier ya know? :D

==Thanks for cleaning up after me==
I've been multitasking, so I'm a little scatterbrained at the moment. =^_^!= --[[User:Frizzy|Frizzy]] 05:37, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

And me as well, thanks. Couldn't figure out why I couldn't get those wikipedia links working internally, o,O
--[[User:Animakitty|Anima]] 18:24, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

== Picture on commons ==
Your lecture was very interesting. I have one more picture of you. See:
*http://www.poli.toya.net.pl/Wikimania_2006_galeria/pages/100-0070_IMG.html
Fill free to copy it if you want.

Polimerek.

:Thanks again! I'll do that. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 20:39, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

== infoboxes ? ==

I copied [[Wikipedia:Template:Infobox Webcomic]] to [[Template:Infobox webcomic]] because I thought having webcomic infoboxes (such as the one at [[Wikipedia:Aozora]]) would be nice. The template partially works (example at [[User:EarthFurst]]). I'm guessing the rest of that template doesn't work because WikiFur doesn't have [[Template:If]] ? WP has [[Wikipedia:Template:If]]. --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 05:22, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

:According to [[User:Splarka|Splarka]], it's due to a problem with tables and parserfunctions on Wikia. He going to try fixing it . . . --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 05:34, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

::Hmm, the infobox was working beautifully at [[TwoKinds]], but doesn't seem to be working now. I've posted question to wikia's Help desk on the matter http://www.wikia.com/index.php?title=Forum:Wikia_hiccup_%3F&t=20060817035856 . I'm reverting [[TwoKinds]] until the error is resolved. I'll be re-checking [[User:EarthFurst]] to see when the infox starts working again. --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 05:03, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

== Did you know? ==

[[Rod O'Riley]]'s band [[Illegal Operation]] will be performing live as part of the furry programming track at this month's [[Worldcon]] in the Los Angeles area. Do you think it would be a reasonable use of the [[WikiFur:Did you know?|Did you know?]] box to add an entry for this to help draw attention to it? Thanks! --[[User:Frizzy|Frizzy]] 16:39, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

:Don't see why not. That whole section could do with a full update. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 16:56, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

::I just got some bad news that the concert event had to be cancelled due to issues out of their control, so I revised the entry. --[[User:Frizzy|Frizzy]] 05:33, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

== Featured article ==

It's fun to see that my bio is a Featured article now. That means both of my pages have gotten onto the front page.
[[User:Fox Cutter|Fox Cutter]] 21:45, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

:I know! This wasn't actually intentional - I only noticed after I featured it. It seemed to be a good pick, so it went up. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 21:52, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

== Hi there! ==

Thanks very much pal, if I need any help I know who to turn to now. ^^

- Eric B.

P.S. I'm sorry for posting this as an article, I really don't know how to respond to the comment you gave me. Well, maybe I need your help already. ^^;

== RVDDP2501 ==

Hey GreenReaper, Its been a while since I had last heard from you, hows things? Listen, I just wanted to say thanks for the reversion of the damaged done to one of my character pages, man, when will this stupidness stop, hope to hear from you - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 23:15, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

:Hi there. Things are good! The vandalism will continue, undoubtedly, to a greater or lesser extent, but we seem to be coping with it well enough. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 23:22, 23 August 2006 (UTC)''

::Hi GreenReaper, the upgrade was a pleasant surprise after that last bit of unpleasant business. Thanks! --[[User:Frizzy|Frizzy]] 04:06, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

== sorry for the previous post : ==

Sorry for the post, I just wanted to report a raid that was headed your way.
If i suspect a raid in the future where do you think i should report this too?
:I had to check the article history to find the post you were referring to. At a guess, it was probably mistaken for link spam, which we get here fairly often. We do appreciate the efforts of people to notify us of attacks in the offing. For future reference, it would be helpful to include a couple of sentences saying what is to be found at the link. (By the way, when I tried the link just now I got a 'Thread Not Found' error - whatver had been there is gone now.) --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 07:58, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

:Here is fine, although you could try the [[Forum:Index|forum]] as well. As for your post, someone else edited my user page to remove it, but I'd already read the thread before you posted it so that was OK. :-)

:We get a lot of people planning stuff, but half of them never show up, and the rest turn out only to have 5 people or so. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 16:24, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

== Incomming Raid Group!!! ==

[[Image:Wikifur.png|left|frame|This is the [[WikiFur]] logo!]]

Be On the lookout for the next few days please sir! --[[User:PaulRevere|PaulRevere]] 21:15, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

:It would be helpful if we had a link to the site where this came from so we could investigate further. --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 21:18, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

:Oh, DeusEx again? He's been working on that for a while, as I recall. I guess we'll see if anything comes of it. We've coped quite well so far with a full bot attack, even when it was using a network of 600 proxies.

:It's cute the way they seem to think using Í will stop google indexing their site, let alone the "totally inept" part. So far it's about 10-0 on successful "organized" raids. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 21:35, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

::That reminds me - did we ever implement a "panic button" - something any of the admins could use in an emergency to block all updates if a major vandalism/bot attack were in progress? If there is an easy way to protect the entire site to sysop only, that would probably suffice. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 21:43, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

:::Like a "Lock-down" script? [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 22:09, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

::::More like a "restrict edits to group X" script, though locking the DB might be a reasonable first step. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 22:17, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

:: You know, we need to write an app to have a [[User:Nidonocu#Score_Board|Score Board]] like what Nidonocu has. --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 21:45, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

::::I edit that manually you know. ;) Though I agree a panic page would be useful. --[[User:Nidonocu|Nidonocu]] - [[User talk:Nidonocu|talk]] [[Image:Trans 168.png|16px|Nidonocu]] 23:20, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

:::Oh Gods ^-^ or a [[Wikipedia:DHS|DHS]]'s like [[Wikipedia:Homeland_Security_Advisory_System|Security Advisory System]],... "Today's Threat Level is "Fluffy," with some chances of /b/tards in the afternoon." [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 22:09, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

== Removing a name on "People". ==

Hello there! i am Crowe Basalt, and previously, i did go by "Grimmutt". i edited an article on "Grimmutt", but, as i am going back to only using the "Crowe Basalt" name, i'd like to have "Grimmutt"'s page removed.

thank you! {{unsigned|Crowebasalt}}

:Hi there, Crowe, and welcome back to WikiFur! The best way to go about that is usually to move the article, as that preserves the original history. I will fix that up later tonight when I get home. Do you wish us to keep the information about your character Grimmutt as a separate section on the page about you, or should I remove it and just mention that you used to go by the name? --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 22:40, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

== Alternative to page protection ==

Hey, this is Carrie Pika.

Is there any way I can get this page locked so it shows only this? I don't want anyone adding personal information about me without my knowledge, so I'd like to have it left at just this.

Thanks~ {{unsigned|CarriePika}}

:We can probably do that. You could also just put your email into your [[Special:Preferences|user preferences]] and then click the Watch tab, so it will tell you whenever someone edits so that you can check it out. Which would you prefer? --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 23:35, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Oh, that'd work great, actually! I'll go ahead and do that. Thanks! {{unsigned|CarriePika}}

:Excellentage. Enjoy WikiFur. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 04:44, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

== And thanks to you. ==

I do appreciate the clean-up of my page, and the separation of the book summary. Many thanks! You guys do an amazing job here. - Alicia

:You're welcome. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 21:37, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

== something to be very angry ==

I wrote an article and someone, german wrote me this:

"Meine Fresse, ich hab noch nie so ein BESCHISSENES ENGLISCH gelesen. Kauf dir mal ein verdammtes Leben!!"

In a free translation it's:"Damn I've never read such a shitty english. Buy a damn life"
Well maybe my english isn't taht good but is it necessary to write the comment in this way? Without an name or anything else.

I think you're not able to find out who did it are you?

And so maybe you could delete my account and the article about me. because I don't want to be a part of something like this. Sorry and thanks for the chocolat. ^^ {{unsigned|Andraste}}

:That comment [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Andraste&action=history was made] by a person with the IP address [[User:89.48.235.195|89.48.235.195]]. They are obviously not a regular user, otherwise they would indeed have signed their comment - and made the edit with a registered account. That edit to the talk page was their [[Special:Contributions/89.48.235.195|only contribution so far]]. There is therefore little to say about them, other than that their IP address resolved to the name "Lebc3.l.pppool.de" - probably a dialup account in Germany.

:I would suggest you pay as much attention to you as someone who posts once on a forum anonymously to insult you, never having contributed to that forum before - that is, precisely no attention at all. If your English is not the best, so what? You are German! The fact that you can write English at all is better than most English people could do with German. If they thought the article was bad, the anonymous editor should have fixed it rather than complained about it. And, in fact, many others did. :-)

:In the last day [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Andraste&action=history several edits] by at least four other people have been made to the article about you (perhaps you made a link to it from somewhere else?). I would ask that you consider '''those''' edits to be an example of what WikiFur is, and not the anonymous commenter - who, I would note, could not even manage to put their ''own'' comment in English. We have [[WikiFur:No personal attacks|a policy against personal attacks]], and any regular contributor would know better than to make such a comment. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 17:59, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

== Recategorization of [[List of convention acronyms]] ==

I don't see why this fits better with [[:Category:Convention terms]] than [[:Category:Conventions]] when it seems to fit the Conventions cat just as well as [[List of furs who were married at a furry con]] or [[List of conventions by attendance]] (both of which are in [[:Category:Conventions]]), since like those two, its a sort of comparison/reference list between different conventions, as opposed to Category:Convention terms which seems to be a list of general terms used within a convention. --[[User:Chibiabos|Chibiabos]] 21:12, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

:OK. Change it back if you wish. My view was that an acronym was a convention term, but I can can see your side too. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 23:59, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

== Wikifur now adversarial? ==

I've read with interest the discussion on Sibe, specifically your comment:

''That is why I am opposed to the removal of the article in whole - because what he has done deserves remembering. It is our business, because Sibe has been bothering us as a community.''

Does this mean Wikifur will not be so much as a source of neutral information, but that Wikifur will now become adversarial in relations to information about people who you (singularly or collectively) believe have wronged Furry? Do you feel that it's now your job/right/reponsibility to punish these people by using Wikifur as a "bully pulpit"?

I hope this isn't the case. Wikifur, despite a healthy dose of pro-Furry slobbery, has been a respectable source of neutral information.

:You'd have to put that question to the wider community for a full answer, as it's a question about where they want WikiFur to go. I'm one of the editors leading the project, but there are others. Still, I can provide some explanation, and the answer I would give is basically "no, but we're not going to go out of our way to do such people any favours either."

:The information on the individuals itself ''should'' unquestionably be neutral and factual (no, this doesn't always happen, and if you see a problem, please explain why and fix it). The only choice we have been making in some cases is whether or not to ''remove'' that neutral information (or some of it) on request, per the [[WikiFur:Personal information|personal information policy]]. This might well ''not'' be a neutral decision, because this is a community made up of members of the furry fandom, and as it is our website it is up to us to decide whether or not that is appropriate. Ultimately our role is to serve the best interests of the fandom, and that generally means trying not to hurt those who are or have been worthwhile members of it. We may care less about the possibility of hurting other people.

:If a person is just a regular member of the fandom - maybe well-regarded, maybe just "one of the gang", then people tend not to fuss too much if they want to remove personal information - and if they have not really done all that much special, that might include the entire article about them (if not, then references to them might remain in other articles). If an individual has, over time, given the community a significant amount of grief, they are likely to say "no, this person is just trying to hide from the problems they have caused" and deny the request. In short, if they've had no respect for our community, then we as a community are likely to have as little respect for them. That is why exclusions that may be contentious go to talk pages - so that the community can decide what to do in that particular situation.

:These sorts of situation are fortunately pretty rare. In Sibe's case, though, his "bothering" was widely commented-on, were intimately connected to his person (not any external group), and occured over a long period of time. If WikiFur is recording furry history, it makes little sense to exclude him, particularly given that he has shown no reticence (or regret) on occasion over detailing the lives of others where it suited ''him''. We're perfectly aware that he doesn't like it being up there, but over time he's pissed off enough people in the fandom that few seem to care about what he feels anymore.

:The thing is, all we have to do is say the truth. His own actions are what comdemn him. We don't even need to say they were bad. If telling the truth about someone makes them look bad in the eyes of the reader, then it's a fair bet that they deserve it.

:This situation of information removal based on respect does not really apply to groups, whatever the standing of the group in the community. I would not support removing the history of the [[Burned Furs]], for example, or that of [[Sociopolitical Ramifications]], or [[FurryMUCK]], because these are important groups that have had a historical impact on the fandom. Maybe if it was a really small and personal group that hasn't . . . again, that'd be discussed on the appropriate talk pages.

One final question: why is it so common to list the real names of people who've had adversarial relations with furry but not with those individuals considered friendly to the fandom? Why are real names included at all?

:There might be various reasons for the inclusion of real names. For some people, their real name is just one item of information about them, such as the colour of their character's fur. Other people might not '''have''' nicknames that are well-known within the fandom (but really, this applies as much if not more to people "friendly to the fandom" as to others). In that case, it seems appropriate to use their real name, just as we tend to use the real name of artists that have used it as their identifier in the fandom.

:In some cases, there may have been a good reason to find out the real name of a person, particularly if it might allow members of the furry fandom to more easily identify a person who is using a variety of nicknames or even their real name in a different venue (we can't say "go look at Laurence's posts in forum X" without telling them who Laurence is). It might also be that people are just more inclined to include the real names of people that they don't like, in the hope that others outside the fandom will see what that person is like. This is not ideal editing, but if the person concerned doesn't request the removal of their name, it will not be changed - the article will be reworded to be based solely on facts if possible, or removed if not.

:The question perhaps shouldn't be "why are real names included at all", but "why aren't real names included for everyone?". Ultimately, aritcles should be under the name which people would link to, and so that is the only name that '''has''' to be there. In the furry fandom, this is more often than not the person's fan name, if they have one. They may only use this name, or they may use their real name as well. If so, people may or may not decide to add it, but it's not considered critical if it's not usually used. Even if a person's real name ''is'' regularly used, in general we will on request remove a person's real name and replace it with their fan name/nickname when describing them, whether or not they are/have been members of the fandom. However, members of the fandom are a) more likely to request this, becuase more of them come here, b) are (slightly) more likely to have such a request accepted (because if non-members are listed here it is usually because they are either famous or infamous, not just because they're furry), and c) are more likely to have such nicknames to use in the first place (we can't exactly say "The comic Fuzzy Things, authored by {blank} . . .").

:I'm aware this answer was rather long and rambling, but that's because I'm tired, and it's a complicated issue when talking in general. If you have specific cases you want explained, feel free to point them out. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 02:29, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

::GreenReaper, in response to your reply, I have added comments to two talk sections, Sibe and Burned Fur, pointing out what I see as an unfair biasing. I'm interested in your reply on both.

::There's also one other possible point on Sibe that you might want to run by an attorney, since the status of Wiki's as "legitimate publications" is still in legal limbo: Sibe is legally a "private figure" and his actions in Furry do not make him, in the legal sense, a "public figure" (both of these are legal terms). As a private individual, he's afforded certain legal protections about what information can be revealed. These protections may or may not cover his criminal record or other information. I think it would be worth your time to consult with someone from the EFF and make sure you haven't crossed the line. While you say that you're just one editor, if no other person can over-rule your edits without your consent, it's your "publication". As such, even if Sibe were to decide to come after Wikifur ''et al'' for any damages the publication of protected information caused him (if any such protections exist at all), you'd still be on the line. Again, the law regarding this may or may not cover him.

:::I agree (unlike some) that Sibe is a private figure, and as such someone ''might'' be liable if we were negligent in publishing made-up facts, even if we did not act with the knowledge that they were false (or with reckless disregard as to whether or not they were false). For example, if we said that the Burned Furs burned people, that would be libel without good evidence. However, a glance at the talk page archives and article history should show you that we have been willing to work with concerned parties to ensure the accuracy of the article, and to obtain exact sources for assertions where appropriate. We have no interest in being negligent (and certainly not grossly negligent), because that makes for a poor article.

:::In contrast, the limitations on information that is actually ''true'' are really quite small, and in general don't apply to us as a private site. I'm not a lawyer, but this situation has come up before and so I've done some research. Criminal records are public information in the State of Washington (and generally speaking in other states). Most other privacy legislation is aimed at restricting what companies can tell third parties about their customers (who they have a contract with), and not about what individuals (who never agreed to any contract) may publish from their own knowledge. The [[Wikipedia:First Amendment to the United States Constitution|First Amendment]] gives us rather sweeping powers in this area that allow us to publish just about anything as long as it is true, and in practice the "due process" terms of the [[Wikipedia:Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution|Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution|Fourteenth Amendment]] extends this to the states as well. Credit card numbers, social security numbers and driver's license number would probably be stuff that should be removed. Other than that, it's pretty much fair game and up to the community to decide what it ''should'' publish, in a moral sense.

:::[[Wikia:Wikia, Inc.|Wikia]] is able to overrule my edits without my consent. If people feel I'm not doing a good enough job, or that WikiFur is infringing their rights, they should contact them. They have more experience than I do, and I am willing to defer to them. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 19:52, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

== Hi, Peace from AU ==
Hello, my name is D. Coldheartt. I am the head admin of the Alternative Universe wiki which is also pretty big. I am a big fan of, well furry stuff and creatures and animals so i decided to join here. I was wondering if i could also become a administrator here if at all possib;e. [[User:D. Coldheartt|D. Coldheartt]] 23:44, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

: Admin status is generally given to users who have a history of contributing to the wiki. If you're interested in becoming an admin, we recommend following [[Special:Recentchanges]] and contributing to/cleaning up articles, dealing with vandalism, etc.
: I'm curious about this Alternate Universe wiki that you mentioned. Typing "Alternate Universe wiki" into Google [http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=%22Alternative+Universe+wiki%22&btnG=Search brings up zero matches]. [http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=%22Alternative+Universe%22+wiki&btnG=Search A slightly more liberal search] did not help me find it either. Did I misspell or typo something? --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 00:22, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

The AU has actually been down for quite some time and replaced with Vandal Manifest Editthis Wiki. [[User:D. Coldheartt|D. Coldheartt]] 00:24, 13 September 2006 (UTC) WikiTV started at Revived Haven Editthis and moved on to Meta Wiki. Jimbos one of the users alowed into revived haven. [[User:D. Coldheartt|D. Coldheartt]] 00:24, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

: [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22Vandal+Manifest%22&btnG=Google+Search Googling for Vandal Manifest] does not turn up anything.
: [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22Revived+Haven%22&btnG=Google+Search Googling for Revived Haven] does not turn up anything, either.
: I'm sensing a pattern here. --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 00:32, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

:: And he first [[:Special:Contributions/D._Coldheartt|spammed a bunch of the admins]] to ask for admin privileges. --[[User:Frizzy|Frizzy]] 00:39, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Heres the link: to VM, http://editthis.info/vandal_manifest/Main_Page a former vandal war site but now good. Ignore the messages the page their is called WikiTV. [[User:D. Coldheartt|D. Coldheartt]] 00:35, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

::None of the pages are available for viewing without a password [[User:63.204.227.202|63.204.227.202]] 00:46, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

:::Please ignore [[User:D. Coldheartt]], it is a swfanon sockpuppeter and general wikia attention spammer. Usernames include: Alacaster Torn, The Vanguard, ThatLittleMidget, Proffesor Mephisto, Black Dawn, Licorice ... --[[w:User:Splarka|Splarka]] ([[w:User_talk:Splarka|talk]]) 01:47, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

== Well cheers for the welcome! ==

Just thought I'd drop by and say thanks for the welcome - wasn't expecting that! Been using this site as a resourse for a good while now so I thought it was only right to inflict a little of myself on here.

[[Werewolf Of London]]

== Hey hey ==

Well I had some problems with creating the article of our new Polish Furries forum and website, but I'm good now.

Say would t be a problem for you to place an info about http://furry.wikia.com/wiki/Polska_Strefa_Furry on the main page? {{unsigned|TerrisRacoon}}

:I will update our [[WikiFur:Did you know?|Did you know?]] section on the front page, and include a link to that page, as it is interesting to know about new forums.

:Oh, and a couple of tips - you should not remove a message on a talk page after you have saved it - it should be left on the page so that the person can reply. Otherwise there is no record, and it looks as if there has been no message, which is confusing when the window pops up saying "you have new messages". :-) Also, you can sign your name on Talk: pages with this: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. It gives this sort of result: --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 08:32, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

== Furry gaming project...? ==

Seeing as how Wikipedia has a project that concetrates on improving the quality and quantity of gaming articles, may I suggest implementing a similiar project? The amount of games with furry elements is not a small one, and it would be very helpful, if information about those games (most are old, PC DOS titles, which run perfectly under DosBox) was included in one place, for sake of completeness and subject coverage.

Especially games like [[Project Nomad]] could use that coverage, as they have literally truckloads of content, and it would be helpful to store it in one place, much like [[Albion (video game)|Albion]]'s articles are done.

Just a thought.

Oh, and what is the general stance about making articles about oneself? Mikael Grizzly 22:30, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

:Seems like a nice enough idea. We already have [[WikiFur:Project Fursuit Central|something similar]] for [[fursuit]]ing, although that's been slow recently. The trouble is there are few "meta"-editors at this time, and so you may find it hard to gather contributors to help you out. I would suggest that you concentrate on one or two particular projects at a time so that it doesn't bog down in needing to do 10 different things at once. :-)

:Articles about yourself are fine as long as they are neutrally written, like any other article. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 04:19, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

== Need help putting up an article ==

I want to put up an essay that's under the GNU Free Docement Lisence, and I want to ask for a little bit of tips on how to do it before I actually do it. Or even how I'm suppose to do it. --[[User:Foxpaws-zupe|Foxpaws]] 00:52, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

:Could you be more specific about what you're trying to do? If you have a GFDL essay from another place, then in general it's fine to just copy it here into a new page as long as you give attribution for the people who wrote it (for example, with Wikipedia you would link to the history page) and preferably link back to the original source. Of course, it would have to fit the topic of the wiki, and be neutral in tone. If it was not neutral (whether or not you wrote it), you should probably avoid putting it in the main namespage - it should go a subpage of your User: space - e.g [[User:Foxpaws-zupe/Article name]] - and it should have a note up at the top similar to that of the [[:Template:personal-article|personal-article template]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 04:22, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Hey! I'll be alright, I guess. I'll fix the entries up s'more later.

I should remember to tag that 'minor edit' box more often. *nods*

Thank you

== Hi and thankies ==

Hi and thank you for this brill site {{unsigned|Fox92}}

== Happy Birthday! ==

*24 wolftytailswat-spankings!* --[[User:Chibiabos|Chibiabos]] 03:45, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

== Im sorry for the late reply, but thank you for welcoming me ==

Im afraid I am not use to this place yet and still have a long way to go on it. But im glad that hospitality is shown here ^_^

From [[Duragan]] {{unsigned|Duragan}}

== All Fur Fun now has official dates! ==

Hi there! Could you please edit the convention area to show that [[All Fur Fun]] will be held March 31 - April 1, 2007? Thanks much! :D

--[[User:Teeka|Teeka]] 01:11, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

:Done, and I hope you guys have fun! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 01:52, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

== Nah~ ==

Just tell me if I should remove the images. They are censored though, but you still see enough~ {{unsigned|Garyu}}

== Vandalism ==

Hey GreenReaper, thanks for repairing the damage to my page as well as other I may not know about - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 20:26, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

:You're welcome! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 20:30, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

== Spam cleanup script ==

I have no idea if that was a valid spam cleanup script or if it was an elaborately created vandalism technique, but either way, it was blanking whole pages rather than just removing "spam" links (which weren't actually spam), so I blocked it temporarily. Feel free to unblock it if it isn't actually something trying to erase the whole Wiki. ;3 [[User:SpazKitty|Spaz Kitty]] 02:42, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

== Higgs Raccoon ==

May I nominate [[User_talk:Higgs Raccoon|Higgs Raccoon]] for upgrading to admin? In addition to contributing to numerous articles, he's helped revert vandalism on more than one occasion. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 15:07, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

:Let's try that out, then. [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=500&target=Higgs_Raccoon Contributions] are a little low (and lacking discussion edits), but they '''are''' all good, and it's not like there aren't a couple of admins with fewer. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 15:27, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

::Well, this is quite an honour. Thankyou Mwalimu for the nomination, and GreenReaper for OKing it. Quite unexpected, really - as noted above, I haven't been here very long and haven't contributed a lot as yet. Hopefully the whole Wikifur novelty won't suddenly wear off. Oh well, if that happens I guess what GreenReaper giveth he can also taketh away! ;) --[[User:Higgs Raccoon|Higgs Raccoon]] 10:13, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

:::Technically, no - I have to go to Wikia for that. That's why I don't generally give it out without recommendation. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 22:46, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

== Vandalism War! ==

A user going by the name of [[User:Arwel Parry]] is vandalizing a number of pages right now! I'd reverting edits as fast as I can. Always happy to help! --[[User:Robomilk|Tori]] 11:18, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Fixed vandalism with [[User:Arcturus]] --[[User:Robomilk|Tori]] 11:33, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

== Where you be on Eye Arr Cee? ==

*cough* Um.. ignore the poor rhyming, just wondering where you is as I've snuck back to the IRC channel the last few days and haven't seen you on at all. o.O --[[User:Nidonocu|Nidonocu]] - [[User talk:Nidonocu|talk]] [[Image:Trans 168.png|16px|Nidonocu]] 20:24, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
:...Now I see your note, make it '''bigger''' next time. X) --[[User:Nidonocu|Nidonocu]] - [[User talk:Nidonocu|talk]] [[Image:Trans 168.png|16px|Nidonocu]] 20:30, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

== SilvrWingsDragon ==

He! Its me, Carrie, from Anthrocon. I tickled you, remember? And I think I had the pupper fox plushie. :) Whats up?

You can, btw, reach me at AminElea@aol.com

:Hi there! I do indeed remember . . . *hides*

:I'm doing fairly well - indeed, I just went to [http://conclavesf.org another convention] last weekend (which I need to actually write about sometime this week). I'll try and contact you when I get back home - still busy at work right now. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 21:39, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

== Furcadia origins? ==

I am not trying to be a pain in the rear here, but I wonder about the claim on the furcadia article that says that it has been around since 1996. I was following this stuff back in the late nineties and I was pretty surprised to hear that. Wolfhome was one of the first websites featuring multi-user chat and I don't remember furcadia.com being around. We were running a company by 2000. While I didn't do an exhaustive search, I am surprised that a furry chat site that would have been a direct competitor to Wolfhome escaped me. Wolfhome started on Gre7g Luterman's site, TempleOfLuna.com, back on October 31st, 1999.

The other thing that I discovered is that the whois record for Furcadia.com was created in 1999 (see below). Add to that a web search on the "Wayback Machine" http://web.archive.org, which tracks websites back to the mid nineties, which shows that in 1999, furcadia.com was a placeholder site:

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://furcadia.com

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Here's that whois record:

Registrant:
DRAGON'S EYE PRODUCTIONS, INC.
767 Sam Bass Rd
Round Rock, TX 78680-1048
US

Domain Name: FURCADIA.COM

Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
DRAGON'S EYE PRODUCTIONS, INC. sanct@furcadia.com
767 Sam Bass Rd
Round Rock, TX 78680-1048
US
+358407672478 fax: +358427672478

Record expires on 03-Feb-2011.
Record created on 03-Feb-1999.
Database last updated on 10-Oct-2006 21:10:34 EDT.

Domain servers in listed order:

NS.FURCADIA.COM 72.36.220.234
NS2.FURCADIA.COM 72.36.220.239

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None of that is meant to take away from the current success of furcadia, but I wonder what supports the claim that they were running a website back in 1996?

Here's the web archive for templeofluna.com:

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://templeofluna.com

BTW, thanks for providing this great site focusing on the Furry community!

[[User:Wunderwood|underdog]]

:Hi there, underdog! The claim is that they were running Furcadia (the client-based MMO experience) since 1996, not Furcadia.com (the website), and I think it is substantiated by [http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.furry/browse_frm/thread/46c69d49b74b57d0 this thread] from May 1999 in which Dr. Cat states in passing that it "opened two and a half years ago". There is also [http://web.archive.org/web/19981205041337/www.realtime.net/furcadia/ this website (www.realtime.net/furcadia)] from December 1998, at which point they appear to already have had 400,000 visits.

:As for the website - you're welcome! I didn't exactly do it by myself, though - you can [http://wikia.com/wikistats/EN/TablesWikiaFURRY.htm#wikipedians thank the people here], along with the hundreds of other editors for filling it with content. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 02:48, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

== Ah, ok.. I read that wrong ==

Thanks for the clarification. I had interpreted that pretty narrowly before. {{Unsigned|Wunderwood}}

== Hiya there ==

yeah, I found that I had a page to edit and submit info to, and thanks for the help offer. Ill be editing when I can, and look forward to contributing here. :3 {{unsigned|Zippo}}

== Wikipedia's techniques on trolls ==

Wikipedia usually reverts banned troll's comments and semi-protects pages. It works better. [[User:Tretonin|Tretonin]] 10:51, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

:It works for their situation. We have to make our own decisions and see how they work out. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 21:43, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

== From Buska ==

Hi and thanks for the welcome! I tried creating my own page as well. I really need to study the Wiki format a bit more however ^^ {{unsigned|Buska}}

== RE:Page name correction ==

Hey GreenReaper, thanks for the move, I will try not to make mistakes like that in the future - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 00:26, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

:No worries. We make them too, sometimes. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 00:29, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Hey GreenReaper, I was wondering if you could perform another page name edit, could you add an "s" to my Remalon page turning it into "Remalons" (since there are five characters in that page), I would really appreciate it, thank you - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 18:20, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Once again, thanks - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 18:26, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

== Extinctioners main page fixing ==

Hey GreenReaper, sorry to drop questions on a regular basis but I was wondering if you might know or see a way to modify or re-arrange the list of groups in the Extinctioner's main page, to some how make it appear more neat, thank you - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 18:17, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

== I have readed that you use Openbsd to host the wiki ==

Hello Greenreaper, thanks for your work on this Furry Wiki, I am trying to install mediawiki on openbsd, but can not login on mediawiki, can you help me? after i have logged in sucessfully, then i try to use the preferences page and it say that i am not logged in

thanks in advance. {{unsigned|Aureliof}}

:I'm afraid I don't really have any idea why that is not working for you, other than that possibly you do not have sessions or cookies setup properly in your browser or web server. I do not administrate the server side of WikiFur, and so I know little of the details of hosting it. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 08:16, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

== DAMN YOU!!! ==

You ALLWAYS seem to be around to delete my...um...helpful changes no matter what time and what wiki I'm hitting :(

WHY?????????????????? {{unsigned|88.106.208.18}}

:Because I'm everywhere - I'm like the wind . . . --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 20:32, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

== That was odd ==

I see that earlier today you blocked User:216.224.121.151. It struck me as odd that there have also been a couple of good edits from the very similar address User:216.224.121.141 (knowing that sometimes a vandal who gets blocked will simply switch to a different workstation, which often has a very similar IP; this time, however, that did not appear to be the case).

Then I tried to make a couple of edits, while logged in, and was told that I couldn't because my IP address, 216.224.121.151, has been blocked. I found this really odd, since I was logged in, I have admin privs, and on top of it all, the IP address of the machine I connect from doesn't look anything like that (and just to be sure, I checked with http://www.whatismyip.com/ ). I retried a couple of times, and my edit finally took - not sure what changed, but there you go.

Then finally, I ran nslookup on 216.224.121.151, and it returned ut4.sjc.wikia-inc.com. I tried 216.224.121.141 and it returned cache1.sjc.wikia-inc.com. Curioser and curioser. Is there something funky going on at wikia.com that's causing incoming edits to look like they came from their server instead of the actual originating user or IP address? --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 18:57, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

:It does indeed seem odd. I've also recieved two separate messages about this from other users. Unblocked this for now. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 19:26, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

:: I got a response from John Q. over on the Wikia mailing list saying that this is fixed/will be fixed shortly. --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 00:25, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

::: Hmm. Maybe not quite fixed yet, I had trouble getting that edit to go through... --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 00:29, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

== Thanks for the welcome ^^ ==

Hey, thanks for the welcome to WikiFur. This is my first time actually registering for a Wiki community, so it'll be a learning experience, but I'm looking forward to adding what I can, when I can. Oh, question -- how do I reply to things on my Talk page? {{unsigned|IanKeith}}

:Welcome to wiki, then, too. :-) You can reply to others in the way you did just now. You should generally sign your names when on talk pages, though, so that people know who left the message without going to the history. You can use <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> for this, or just <nowiki>~~~</nowiki> if you don't want the date. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 02:54, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

== timeline tag ==

Hi. I just solve timeline bug and you can use it again --[[User:Inez|Inez]] 10:10, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

:Thank you, Inez! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 12:47, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

== NO CARRIER ==

Thanks for cleaning up after my messes. :) I'll get the wiki standards hammered through my thick skull eventually! 
-[[User:Furvert|Furv]]

== How to do bot vandal rollbacks ==

In cases of mass vandalism (page blanking and the like) it is acceptable to use the "bot" rollback method. To do this, go to the user's contribution page by clicking their name or IP address in the userlist, then add &bot=1 to the URL (or ?bot=1 if there is no ? already in the URL). Press enter to reload that URL, and then just open all the rollback links in new tabs. This will give the initial edit a "bot" flag, so that only your revert will be visible in [[Special:Recentchanges|recent changes]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 19:04, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
:Okay, I'll do it that way next time. By the way, when responding to a user talk comment like this, is there a way to have the thread automatically replicated in the other user's talk page? I've always done it by manually copying the response in both places. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 19:09, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
::Not that I know of. Would be nice! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 19:11, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

'twas fun playing with you furries. --[[User:149.9.0.27|149.9.0.27]] 19:23, 27 October 2006 (UTC) =)

== more vandalism ==

Hey GreenReaperm, were getting vandalized including the front page! - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 14:16, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
: O NOES VANDALISM @_@ --[[User:85.214.66.61|85.214.66.61]] 14:23, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

WERE UNDER ATTACK! - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 22:01, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

== Chinmyou ==
Thanks for the welcome. X3
[[User:Chinmyou|Chinmyou]] 06:06, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

== Extinctioners Wikipedia page deletion threat again ==

Hey GreenReaper, Sorry to constantly bother you but I just saw on the talk page of the Wikipedia.org Extinctioners page that it will be coming under a deletion threat within several days claiming wikifur IS NOT a reliable source (yeah right), here is the link to the page - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Extinctioners - I hope it will not be removed, I don't understand it, they have pages for other furry comics but they seem the think this one is not worthy but if you think its not worth fighting over, I will understand, thank you - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 13:16, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

:Unfortunately, WikiFur ''isn't'' a reliable source, at least not in Wikipedia's terms. Someone could come by and change anything at any time. Articles are not guaranteed to be peer-reviewed - indeed, there is no particularly certainty that information on WikiFur has been checked by anyone. Contributions are, in many cases, anonymous. If you want to have an article at Wikipedia, you need to give proper references to the primary sources (the comics themselves), or to secondary sources that have been published in some kind of guaranteed editorially-reviewed medium, like a comic review in a published [[fanzine]] (or better).

:Consider: You wrote most of the pages on WikiFur about the comic. Who's to say you weren't making up half of the stuff you wrote? You can see their situation - they can't just rely on your words for its accuracy. It is not that it is a furry comic. It is the entire article is your original creation, and you've not backed it up with links that show the source of the facts that you state. Go look at [[Wikipedia:Samuel Conway|this article]] for an example of what I mean. There are probably worse articles, but that does not excuse the one about ''Extinctioners''. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 05:12, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you, I appreciate what you have told me and I finally can see where wikipedia is coming from, I will leave this decision in the hands of those at Wikipedia (since I am unable to try and fight for it to remain again) and just continue with the one here, thanks for your help :-) - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 23:48, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

== Redirecting articles? ==

I was poking around in the Templates section to see how I could re-direct a link that currently goes nowhere to an article that is relevant. I wanted to link "Ace of Spades" and "Morrigan's War" to the "Empires" article but could not see a way to do it..? Thank you. {{unsigned|Kette' Barona}}

:To do that, go to the pages [[Ace of Spades]] and [[Morrigan's War]] and put <nowiki>#REDIRECT [[Empires]]</nowiki> in there. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 02:22, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

== FA and such ==

I just wanted to apologize, again-- though I guess to you directly-- for what I did the other day. I was responding more as damage control to prevent an explosion of drama rather than following the guidelines stipulated. This whole thing, though not directly affecting me, has seemed to've killed my patience and thinking. Thankfully it's cleared up now.

It won't happen again. [[User:Verix|Verix]] 17:57, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

:It's understandable. No worries. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 19:12, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

== Uploading avatar pic quesion ==

Hey GreenReaper, sorry to bug you but I have a question, there is a pic I would like to use as my avatar (or fursona if thats what its called), I have gotten the artists permission (no via e-mail), I was just wondering what porceedures I need to do before uploading such a pic, here are the links:
*Shadow-Wolf (artist) - http://shadow-wolf.deviantart.com/
*the picture I want to use - http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/8577254/?qo=165&q=by%3Ashadow-wolf&qh=sort%3Atime+-in%3Ascraps
*and finally the message giving me permission to use this pic - http://my.deviantart.com/notes/1/52363257

I just want to ensure I do not mess up on this matter, I would really appreciate your help with this

:I can't see that note, probably since they're private, but for that sort of thing we're fine with taking people's word for it unless the artist complains. Just make sure to mention the name of the artist in the picture description, and select "fursona" in the dropdown license box when you upload it. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 20:13, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

:heres the note -

From: *shadow-wolf
Date: Nov 4, 2006, 12:17:03 PM
sure, go for it! Could you credit me in your journal or something, link back to the original picture? It'd be a great plug for me if you could. ^^ Thank you for having the courtasy to ask first

~nymph

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RVDDP2501 said the following:

Hi Shadow Wolf, I'm RVDDP2501, listen, I was wondering if I could get your permission to use your Venom Pic as my avatar, I really like it and I'm a huge Venom fan, I just wanted to ask your permission first, thanks

P.S. I'm the Extinctioners wikifur page creator

and finally (forgive my ignorence) what exactly is the drop box your refering to? - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 20:51, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

wait... I think I've found what your talking about - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 20:54, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

== Other-Language Wikis ==

We've talked before about a possible Swedish-language furry wiki. It is likely that I will find myself with a good chunk of free time (or at least that what free time I have won't be eaten up by pesky things like take-home schoolwork) in a month or so - would it still be of interest that I go ahead and request the wiki to be made? (Last we discussed it on LJ, I kind of got heaped with massive amounts of Stuff soon afterwards, unfortunately.) I could probably get [[Ricadonna]] to link it from the [[SveaFur]] homepage as well, so that there'd be at least a few contributors more or less guaranteed. --[[User:Quotingmungo|quoting_mungo]] 15:13, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
:Someone needs to learn to think before she talks. I also meant to ask if you have a preference for a Wikia-hosted wiki (would it help with organization, for instance?) or if it could be privately hosted for all you care? I know the host I plan on moving to makes it ridiculously simple to install a wiki, so if it's all the same to you that might be a better route, as that also eliminates the ads? I'm just disorganized today, sorry. --[[User:Quotingmungo|quoting_mungo]] 15:29, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
::I'd still be very interested in seeing more furry wikis in different languages. As the one who intends to do the work to found the wiki, it's up to you to decide where it should be. :-) I think Wikia is a good choice for those who don't want to be dealing with server-side issues or costs. If you believe that the technical ability to start and maintain the wiki software is available (whether you or they can provide it), and if you are sure that the hosting will be maintained, then there's no problem with hosting it anywhere. For various reasons, I felt it was suitable for the English language furry wiki to be here, but it doesn't mean others have to. We can link back and forth wherever you are. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 16:22, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
:::I talked to my boyfriend, whom I will be sharing the bandwidth with, and unless I magically get an insane permanent-ish workload, it sounds as though I'll privately host the wiki when we get set up at the new host. Would put it somewhere around early December, which suits me fine as that puts it past most of my current deadlines. --[[User:Quotingmungo|quoting_mungo]] 17:41, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

== More All Fur Fun stuff! ==

Hi GreenReaper! All Fur Fun (the new furry convention) has a new website up and running. It's already linked, but I was hoping someone could edit the convention's entry to show that we're a bit more organized now, hehe! I'd do it myself, but I tend to do Very Wrong Things when I try to edit wiki pages, so I'd rather have someone with experience do it. ;D

Thanks in advance! :D

--[[User:Teeka|Teeka]] 02:36, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Murreki

2006-10-11T22:24:31Z

Teeka: Created page, added core info.

Murreki Jusocio is a fur that is most well-known on [[Second Life]]. He is a proud [[babyfur]]. His [[fursona]] is a [[fox]].

Zinnthra

2006-09-29T01:16:45Z

Teeka: Added mention of All Fur Fun.

'''Mark "Zinnthra" Lewis''' (born July 22, 1981) was a staff member for the planned convention [[FurFest Northwest]], which was cancelled in July 2006. Zinnthra is located in Idaho, U.S.A. He is now on staff for the new convention [[All Fur Fun]], happening in spring of 2007.

== External links ==
* [http://zinnthra.livejournal.com/ Zinnthra] on [[LiveJournal]]

{{person-stub}}

[[Category:People]]
[[Category:Idaho]]
[[Category:1981 births]]

SR Foxley

2006-09-29T01:15:06Z

Teeka: Added mention of All Fur Fun.

'''SR Foxley''' is the husband of [[Teeka]]. His [[fursona]] is a [[Red Fox]]. He is currently on the staff of [[All Fur Fun]], a convention happening in the spring of 2007.

== External links ==

* [http://sr.fo.cx/ SR Foxley's Hole in the Ground]
* ''[http://sr-foxley.livejournal.com/ SR's random ramblings]'' at [[LiveJournal]]

{{Person-stub}}

[[Category:People]]
[[Category:Red Fox characters]]
[[Category:Writers]]

User talk:GreenReaper

2006-09-29T01:11:19Z

Teeka: /* All Fur Fun now has official dates! */

User talk:Teeka

2006-08-22T20:48:53Z

Teeka:

Hi there, Teeka, and welcome to WikiFur! Thanks for contributing to the articles about yourself and [[All Fur Fun]] - [[User talk:GreenReaper|let me know]] if you need any [[help]] not already provided. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 07:46, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Upcoming events ==

Hi again! Was it your intent to [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Template:Upcoming_events&diff=0&oldid=81119 remove] [[Califur Diego]] from [[Template:Upcoming events|Upcoming events]] at the same time as you added [[All Fur Fun]]? Perhaps it's not on next year? --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 14:10, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Ack! I'm so sorry...I thought for sure I only ADDED something, not removed! Very odd! My apologies...I'll keep my paws to myself next time. Please add it back so people don't kill me with sticks XD --[[User:Teeka|Teeka]]

Template:Upcoming events

2006-08-22T13:47:50Z

Teeka: Added All Fur Fun to the list.

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'''2006'''
 [[Image:GER.gif|Germany]] Aug 23-27: [[Eurofurence]]
 [[Image:USA.gif| USA]] Aug 24-27: [[Worldcon]] (CA)
 [[Image:USA.gif|USA]] Sep 01-03: [[Mephit Furmeet]] (TN)
 [[Image:CAN.gif|Canada]] Sep 02-06: [[Feral!|Camp Feral!]] (ON)
 [[Image:USA.gif|USA]] Sep 29-Oct 1: [[KainCon]] (VA)
 [[Image:GER.gif|Germany]] Sep 29-Oct 3: [[H-Con]]
 [[Image:USA.gif|USA]] Oct 06-08: [[Western Pennsylvania Furry Weekend|West PA Furry Wknd.]]
 [[Image:USA.gif|USA]] Oct 20-22: [[FurFright]] (CT)
 [[Image:GER.gif|Germany]] Oct 26-29: [[HerbstCon]]
 [[Image:USA.gif|USA]] Oct 27-29: [[Oklacon]] (OK)
 [[Image:CAN.gif|Canada]] Oct 28: [[Howloween]] (BC)
 [[Image:USA.gif|USA]] Nov 03-05: [[NekoCon]] (VA)
 [[Image:USA.gif|USA]] Nov 17-19: [[Midwest FurFest]] (IL)
 [[Image:JPN.gif|Japan]] Dec 03: [[とらんすふぁ]]
 [[Image:USA.gif|USA]] Dec 03-09: [[Furry Cruise]] (FL)
 [[Image:AUS.gif|Australia]] Dec 15-17: [[MiDFur]]
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'''2007'''
 [[Image:USA.gif|USA]] Jan 12-14: [[Arisia]] (MA)
 [[Image:USA.gif|USA]] Jan 18-22: [[Further Confusion]] (CA)
 [[Image:AUT.gif|Austria]] Jan 27-Feb 3: [[Zillercon]]
 [[Image:USA.gif|USA]] Feb 16-18: [[Furry Weekend Atlanta]] (GA)
 [[Image:USA.gif|USA]] Mar 02-04: [[Megaplex]] (FL)
 [[Image:USA.gif|USA]] May 04-06: [[Califur]] (CA)
 [[Image:GER.gif|Germany]] May 17-20: [[Mephit Mini Con]]
 [[Image:USA.gif|USA]] May 18-20: [[Morphicon]] (OH)
 [[Image:USA.gif|USA]] May 25-27: [[Rocket City FurMeet]] (AL)
 [[Image:USA.gif|USA]] Jun 15-17: [[Rocky Mountain Fur Con]] (CO)
 [[Image:USA.gif|USA]] Jun 22-25: [[Gathering of the Gargoyles]] (TN)
 [[Image:USA.gif|USA]] Jul 05-08: [[Anthrocon]] (PA)
 [[Image:CAN.gif|Canada]] Jul 27-29: [[Anthrofest]] (QC)
 [[Image:USA.gif|USA]] Aug 10-12: [[FA: United!]] (NJ)
 [[Image:USA.gif|USA]] Aug 24-26: [[RainFurrest]] (WA)
 
'''TBA'''
 [[Image:RUS.gif|Russia]] Jan 2007: [[Rusfurrence|РусФуренция]]

 [[Image:USA.gif|USA]] May 2007: [[Cape May Fur Meet]] (NJ)
 [[Image:USA.gif|USA]] April 2007: [[All Fur Fun]] (WA)
 [[Image:USA.gif|USA]] Sep 2007: [[Furry Fiesta]] (TX)
 [[Image:FRA.gif|France]] Nov 2007: [[FranFurence]]
 [[Image:CZE.gif|Czech Republic]] ??? 2007: [[ČeSFuR]]
 [[Image:RUS.gif|Russia]] Aug 2008: [[Furry Eclipse]]
|}
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All Fur Fun

2006-08-21T13:45:09Z

Teeka:

'''All Fur Fun''' is a [[furmeet]] planned for Spokane, Washington, U.S.A., and intended to grow into becoming a larger event or [[convention]]. Its current official title is a '''small convention''', as their initial attendance will be small. Still, panels and events are still expected to happen, so a [[furmeet]] wouldn't quite be an accurate description.

It is set to happen in the spring.

== External links ==
* [http://community.livejournal.com/allfurfun/ All Fur Fun] at [[LiveJournal]]

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[[Category:Conventions]]
[[Category:Washington]]
[[Category:2006 births]]