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Porsupah

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'''Porsupah''' ('''Zoe Paxton''') (died 10 March 2024) was a furry fan, fursuiter, photographer, and programmer whose [[fursona]] (originally a [[red panda]]) was a [[Wikipedia:snowshoe hare|snowshoe hare]]. She appeared on [[Second Life]] as '''Porsupah Ree'''.
==Fandom Involvement==
Porsupah organised the first-ever furry meetup in the United Kingdom; 5-7 June 1993, in Tonyrefail, Wales.<ref>[http://yarf.furry.com/chronology.html Yarf! Chronology] on [[W:Internet Archive|Internet Archive]]. Retrieved July 11, 2011.</ref>

Porsupah was a console platform programmer for the 11th hour.

In 1999, Porsupah was interviewed for the article "Furry Friends" in ''[[Stay Free!]]'' magazine, in which various facets of [[furry fandom]] were discussed.

==Death==
Porsupah passed away on the night of March 10, 2024, from metastatic cancer diagnosed in late 2022.<ref>[https://weirder.earth/@ghost_bird/112075846513579794]. Retrieved March 13, 2024.</ref><ref>[https://porsupah.livejournal.com/357910.html Heavy times] on [[LiveJournal]]. Retrieved November 10, 2022.</ref>
==References==
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==External links==
* [https://porsupah.livejournal.com/ ''The Mystery of the Supranational Rabbit''] - Porsupah's [[LiveJournal]]
* [https://www.furaffinity.net/user/porsupah/ Porsupah] on [[Fur Affinity]]
* [https://www.flickr.com/photos/porsupah Porsupah Ree] on [[W:Flickr|Flickr]]
* [https://lgbt.io/@porsupah Porsupah] on [[Mastodon]]

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X (social media)

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'''X''', formerly known as '''Twitter''', is a website that offers [[social networking]] and [[microblogging services]], enabling its users to send and read messages called '''posts''' (formerly '''tweets'''). "Posts" are text-based posts of up to 280 characters, which was decreased to 140 characters on November 7, 2017,<ref>''[https://blog.twitter.com/official/en_us/topics/product/2017/tweetingmadeeasier.html Tweeting Made Easier].'' Dated November 7, 2017. Retrieved December 4, 2017.</ref> then increased to 4000 characters on February 8, 2023, but only for [[W:Twitter#Twitter_Blue|Twitter Blue]] users (post [[W:Acquisition of Twitter by Elon Musk|Elon Musk's 2022 Twitter acquisition]]).

== History ==
[[File:TwitterLogo.png|right|thumb|225px|Original logo (as '''Twitter''')]]
X (as Twitter) was launched in 2006 and has gained popularity worldwide. It is estimated to have 330 million active monthly users,<ref> [https://www.theverge.com/2019/4/23/18511383/twitter-q1-2019-earnings-report-mau The Verge Article] Dated April 23, 2019. Retrieved July 21, 2019. </ref> generating 500 million tweets a day.<ref> [https://www.internetlivestats.com/twitter-statistics Twitter Usage Statistics] Retrieved July 21, 2019.</ref> The Twitter [[mascot]] is a [[nonmorphic]] blue[[bird]].

== X and furry ==
[[File:TweetfurbyBirchly.png|right|thumb|225px|Artist [[Birchly]]'s contribution to TweetFur]]
X (as Twitter), had become as popular with [[furries]] as it has with the wider online community. Conventions such as [[Anthrocon]] and [[ConFuzzled]] also use Twitter to their advantage by spreading [[convention]] information through a real-time and direct medium. It is a helpful tool for receiving real-time updates at [[convention]]s, such as contests, temporary sales, and where to find popular [[artist]]s. Many furries take advantage of Twitter's privacy options, allowing them to share messages only with approved people.

===#FursuitFriday===

X features the use of tagging tweets with the number/pound symbol (#), known on Twitter as a hashtag. One popular trend has been for furries to use the tag #FursuitFriday to tweet photos of their [[fursuit]] every Friday.

===#TweetFur===

On December 31st, 2018, Twitter user [[@fluffysmolcloud]] tweeted a screenshot of the [[Twitter Brand Guidelines]] that stated "Don't [[anthropomorphic|anthropomorphize]] the logo", along with an anthropomorphized drawing of the logo. <ref>[https://twitter.com/fluffysmolcloud/status/1079842952074031104 Twitter - @fluffysmolcloud] Dated December 31, 2018. Retrieved July 21, 2019.</ref><ref>[https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/tweetfur Know Your Meme #TweetFur] Retrieved July 21, 2019.</ref>

This Tweet became popularized with [[furry artist]]s and '''#TweetFur''' began trending as more art was produced of the anthropomorphized logo and posted with the tag.

===Other furry hashtags===
General furry:
* [https://twitter.com/hashtag/furries?src=hashtag_click #furries], [https://twitter.com/hashtag/furry?src=hashtag_click #furry]
* [https://twitter.com/hashtag/furryfandom?src=hashtag_click #furryfandom]

More specific:

* [https://twitter.com/hashtag/FurryAdopt?src=hashtag_click #furryAdopt]
* [[Furry art]]: [https://twitter.com/hashtag/furryArt?src=hashtag_click #furryArt], [https://twitter.com/hashtag/furryArtwork?src=hashtag_click #furryArtwork]
* [https://twitter.com/hashtag/furryArtist?src=hashtag_click #furryArtist],
* [https://twitter.com/hashtag/furryMeetup?src=hashtag_click #furryMeetup]
* [https://twitter.com/hashtag/furryPride?src=hashtag_click #furryPride]
* [[fursona]]: [https://twitter.com/hashtag/fursona?src=hashtag_click #fursona], #furryoc, #ocart
* [[fursuit]]: [https://twitter.com/hashtag/fursuit?src=hashtag_click #fursuit], #fursuiter

=== Elon Musk's Twitter acquisition ===

After [[W:Elon Musk|Elon Musk]]'s October 2022 acquisition of the service, along with his often controversial views,{{cn}} his unbanning of prior banned accounts ([[W:Jordan Peterson|Jordan Peterson]], [[W:Andrew Tate|Andrew Tate]], [[W:The Babylon Bee|The Babylon Bee]], [[W:Project Veritas|Project Veritas]], [[W:Sargon of Akkad|Sargon of Akkad]], [[W:Meghan Murphy|Meghan Murphy]], etc ), the banning of [[W:LGBTQ+|LGBTQ+]], [[W:Anti-fascism|anti-fascist]], and other similar accounts sugested to Musk by far-right figures,{{cn}} the banning of other social media services' Twitter account (i.e. [[Mastodon]]), no longer enforcing its policy prohibiting [[COVID-19]] misinformation, and the ultimate dissolution of Twitter's '''Trust and Safety Council''',<ref>[https://www.npr.org/2022/12/12/1142399312/twitter-trust-and-safety-council-elon-musk ''Musk's Twitter has dissolved its Trust and Safety Council''] article on [[NPR]]. Retrieved March 6, 2023.</ref> responsible for the sites' policies on [[W:Hate speech|hate speech]], the [[W:Commercial sexual exploitation of children|commercial sexual exploitation of children]], and [[W:Self-harm|self-harm content]], which all lead in a rise in misinformation, disinformation, harassment, and hate speech on the platform,<ref>[https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-64804007 ''Twitter insiders: We can't protect users from trolling under Musk''] article on [[BBC News]]. Retrieved March 6, 2023.</ref> some [[furry fans]] and artists expressed a desire to leave the site.<ref>[https://twitter.com/Maro_The_Golden/status/1519137578569854976 ''I cannot believe this! So many of my furry frens are leaving Twitter because they don't trust Elon Musk?!''] post by [[Maro the Golden]] on Twitter. Retrieved March 6, 2023.</ref>

Without another social media service with the presence and solid foundation of Twitter, some furries (with a few shutting their Twitter accounts), just started to migrate to other services (like [[Bluesky]], [[Mastodon]], et al), reopening/reactivating old art gallery accounts (particularly [[Fur Affinity]]), or joining older established services like [[Tumblr]].

But a good contingency of [[furry fandom]] personnel<ref>[https://twitter.com/Gnash_Hyena/status/1591086786977366017 ''I'm not leaving Twitter.''] post by [[Gnash Hyena]] on Twitter. Retrieved March 6, 2023.</ref> still maintains a presence on Twitter for various reasons, with only the possible service's ultimate shutdown as their last expected interaction with it.

==== X ====

With the advent of "Twitter" changing its name to "X", the migration accelerated, thanks especially to the creation of two new social media apps, [[Meta]]'s [[Threads]], and American entrepreneur [[W:Jack Dorsey|Jack Dorsey]]'s [[Bluesky]].

== References ==
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== See also ==

* [[W:Twitter|X]] on [[Wikipedia]]
* [[:Category:Twittering Wikifurries]]
* [[Facebook]]
* [[Bluesky]]
* [[Discord]]
* [[Telegram]]
* [[Mastodon]]

== External links ==

* [http://www.twitter.com X] official website
* [https://e621.net/wiki_pages/23260 Tweetfur] page on the [[e621|e621 wiki]]

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Furry artist

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:''"Artist" redirects here. For the character by that name, see [[Footman]].''
A '''furry artist''', or '''anthro artist''', is a person who creates [[art]]istic works with the [[furry fandom]] in mind as the target audience, or who creates [[anthropomorphic]] art of interest to the fandom. The works of such artists is called ''[[furry art]]''.

== Etymology‎ ==

"Furry artist" is used mostly to identify those who create art such drawings, paintings, collages, sculptures, and other types of works traditionally thought of as visual/physical media. Those who write [[furry story|furry fiction]] are usually referred as ''[[furry writer]]s''.

Performance furry artists are also subject to their own designation, such as [[fursuiter]]s, [[puppeteer]]s, [[musician|furry musicians]], etc,... Alternately, some artists of a certain art subset (e.g. [[Comics]]), may append the term "furry" to their craft to further identify themselves on that particular field (e.g. [[Cartoonist|furry cartoonist]]).

=== Anthro artists ===

Some furry artists also describe themselves as "anthro artists", but not all "anthro artists" identify themselves as "furry". For some, the connotation "furry" feels that brings a baggage, normally not flattery, with the term, or in some cases, may wish to identify themselves as artists who draw furry content without a direct connection to the fandom.

=== Other definitions ===

Some artists that work for/with the fandom, but are not/do not wish to be part of it may use the simple term '''artist'''.

Of less use is the term [[Funny animal artist]], a older predecessor term to describe a "furry artist", but most common, to describe those anthro artists, or even non-fur ones, not comfortable, again, with the perceived "furry" negative word impact.

== Social interactions ==

Most furry artists have an active connection to the furry fandom. Many attend [[furry convention]]s and [[furmeet]]s (and/or specialized artist furmeets), furry [[MUCK]]s, [[W:Internet|Internet]] [[forum]]s, [[IRC]] chatrooms, [[W:Social media|Social media]], and any other sites and events connected to the community.

However, a small portion of furry artists have little or no involvement in furry fandom. They may avoid fan social activities out of lack of interest, discomfort with the public reputation of the fandom, dislike of the furry social community, and/or other personal reasons. This lack of personal involvement does not necessarily prevent such artists from selling their artwork to [[furries]].

Typically, a furry artist utilizes these avenues not only as social tools, but also as a means of advertising and merchandising his/her/their work.

== Economics ==

While some furry artists are able to make a living from their furry artwork, most do not. In general [[commission]]s, [[print]]s, and other art sales make a significant income only for very popular and well-known furry artists. Artists with a smaller fanbase may make a small amount of money from their furry art; this is predominantly through [[commission]]s (rather than prints or original non-custom works).

A large majority of furry artists create their artwork for the enjoyment of the subject matter. They may share them on online art galleries without any expectation of sales.

=== Blacklisting ===

There are rumors<ref>[http://forums.yerf.com/viewtopic.php?p=81599 ''omg teh yiffzorz!!1''] post on the [[Yerf|Yerf forums]]. Archived February 21, 2009. Retrieved ?.</ref> of a bias against hiring furry artists (or [[Wikipedia:Blacklisting|blacklisting]]) by professional companies (e.g. [[Disney|Disney Feature Animation]] or smaller set of companies).{{fact}} This is believed to be due to the perceived [[pornography|pornographic]] nature of furry art in general (see [[Furry stereotype]]), or their recognition of a prospective hire as being one.{{fact}}

== Online galleries ==

A large number of [[:Category:Art archives|online galleries]] exist that are exclusively furry art or are friendly to furry artists. This list includes only some of them.

===Exclusively furry===

*[[Artspots]]
*[[ArtVark]]
*[[Fur Affinity]]
*[[Furry Art Pile]]
*[[Inkbunny]]
*[[SoFurry]]
*[[VCL]]
*[[Xenographia]]
*[[Yerf]]
*[[YNA]]

===Furry-friendly===

*[[DeviantArt]]
*[[Elfwood]]
*[[Epilogue]]
*[[SheezyArt]]
*[[Side 7]]

== References ==
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Fur Affinity

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| title = Fur Affinity
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| caption = Fur Affinity logo
| author = '''Owner:''' Frost Dragon Art, LLC<ref name="Feb 1 21">{{cite web|url=https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/9761295|title=New Ownership, Updated Logo, & More|accessdate=2021-02-02|author="[[Fender]]"|date=2021-02-01|work=[[Fur Affinity]]}}</ref>
* '''Lead admin:''' [[Dragoneer]]
* '''Founder:''' [[Alkora]]
* [[#Administrators|Administrators]]
| url = https://www.furaffinity.net/ ([https://sfw.furaffinity.net/ SFW])
* '''Trackers''': [https://trello.com/b/SmYk47aD/furaffinity-feature-requests Requests]
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[[File:FAFront Page.png|right|thumb|250px|Fur Affinity's front page, circa 2021]]
'''Fur Affinity''', also known as '''FA''' or '''FurAffinity''', is the [[furry fandom]]'s largest online community, focusing on the promotion of art, music and stories.

The site was created in 2005 by [[Alkora]] as an alternative to various art community websites such as [[SheezyArt]] and [[DeviantArt]], distinguished by allowing artistic freedom of expression regardless of content rating. It is led by [[Dragoneer]].
<div style=float:left;margin-right:10px>__TOC__</div>
== History ==
{{main|History of Fur Affinity}}
Fur Affinity was launched on 16 January 2005 as an alternative to [[SheezyArt]], with the forum going live on that date and the main site being transferred a few days later from [[FurPawz]]. Since then, it has suffered a few outages, most notably a month-long downtime over July 2008, but always managed to recover. In 2011, Fur Affinity announced a major revamp in connection to FA: United 4.<ref>''[http://forums.furaffinity.net/threads/89577-Fur-Affinity-Turns-6! Fur Affinity Turns 6!] - Dragoneer, Fur Affinity forum post (16 January 2011)</ref>

=== Fur Affinity: United! ===
{{main|FA: United}}
In August 2007, Fur Affinity held its own [[furry convention]], Fur Affinity: United! (or FA:U) in [[Wikipedia:Newark, New Jersey|Newark, New Jersey]]. The convention was a success, drawing 310 attendees and 25 [[fursuiter]]s in the [[fursuit parade|parade]], and was followed by another in 2008, drawing 381 attendees. In February 2009, Dragoneer announced FA: United 3 "Games United" for 28-30 May 2010.<ref>''[http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/621616/ FAU3 Announcement]'' - Dragoneer, Fur Affinity journal (9 February 2009)</ref> No event was scheduled for 2009 due to the economic downturn. [[FA: United 7]], in August 2014, drew 707 attendees.

== Services and features ==

Fur Affinity's features for users include the ability to allow users to track new updates from particular [[artist]]s; highlight favorites; and upload a wide variety of art (images, music and stories). The site attempts to promote community through its comments system and individual journals.

While works of all ratings are accepted (other than ''photographic nudes, images whose intent are to slander or discredit others, and minors in sexual situations''<ref>[http://help.furaffinity.net/article/AA-00205/8/Acceptable-Upload-Policy-AUP.html Acceptable Upload Policy] - Fur Affinity</ref>), art rated as mature or adult is not shown to visitors, or to users who have not specified it as a preference (which requires giving a date of birth indicating an age over 18). Keywords and tags can be added to works, though a feature that allowed blocking based on tags was disabled due to performance issues.

Fur Affinity's search engine was "temporarily disabled" in mid-2006 due to it taking up too many resources.<ref>''[http://forums.furaffinity.net/showthread.php?t=1334 Admin mode on june 5th 2006]'' - Alkora, Fur Affinity forums (5 June 2006)</ref> A faux search feature was implemented for April Fool's Day 2007, much to the chagrin of some users.<ref>''[http://forums.furaffinity.net/showthread.php?t=7229 Search is up!]'' - Fur Affinity Forums (1 April 2007)</ref> Search was reimplemented on 5 February 2009; it was initially labelled "That Thing You Want" and randomly included [[wikipedia:Rickrolling|rickrolls]].<ref>''[http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/616339/ SEARCH]'' - Dragoneer, Fur Affinity journal (5 February 2009)</ref>

Privacy features were added in May 2012 with users being able to block guests from seeing their content with messages such as "[Username] has elected to make their content available to registered users only" and being able to hide their adult, mature+adult, or all favorites from public view.<ref>[http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/3490599/ Update Notices, Changelog & Banner] journal posted to Fender's blog on May 24th, 2012. Retrieved 2012 November 25.</ref>

The site's artwork is inaccessible in Russia, as d.facdn.net (which serves the images) is listed on Russia's Internet blacklist. The site itself works fine, and even shows thumbnails.{{fact}}

On 13 September 2015, to coincide with the conclusion of [[FAU 2015]], Fur Affinity unveiled a Gallery folders system<ref>http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/7036344/ 09/13/2015 - Folders & Gallery Management Updates] News item dated 13 September 2015. Retrieved 27 October 2015</ref>, which had been promised in one form or another since shortly after the site launched in 2006. Some users{{who}} criticized the way folders were implemented,{{cn}} including disappearing artwork after its implementation (found normally in the scraps folder), and the poor to no documentation regarding them.

==Project Ferrox==
{{main|Ferrox (software)}}
The FA development team was working on a new backend system called [[Ferrox_(software)|Ferrox]] which was to be used for the next major revision of Fur Affinity, and was to be made available as [[Wikipedia:FOSS|FOSS]] (Free and Open Source Software) for other sites to use. By late 2009, the development of Ferrox had stalled, with the last change to the code being made on September 7, 2009. Days earlier, net-cat, who was acting as the lead Ferrox developer after [[Eevee]] had left, announced that the code was to be frozen, citing that "Nobody knows Python."<ref>http://forums.furaffinity.net/threads/49368-Code-freeze-on-current-Ferrox-codebase?p=1174129&viewfull=1#post1174129</ref>

== Mascots ==
[[File:Fender.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Fender, drawn by [[Mutley James]]]]
[[Fender]] is the Fur Affinity [[mascot]], created by artist [[K-9]] based on a character concept by [[Preyfar]]. He is half [[fox]] and half [[ferret]], a "ferrox". On April Fool's Day 2007, Fender was depicted in the site's banner as a female dragon. This dragon was made a separate character and an official mascot of the site in May 2007, and named [[Rednef]], or "Fender" spelled backward.

== Controversies ==
{{main|History of Fur Affinity#Controversy}}
Being furry fandom's largest social art site for many years, Fur Affinity has been host to strenuous discussions on various topics, including the presence and later absence of [[cub]] [[pornography]], staff appointments and departures, allegations of staff and user improprieties, and debate over what consists of suitable content for the site banner. Incidents of downtime and unauthorized access have also been discussed, both on Fur Affinity's forums and throughout the fandom.

== Organization ==

Fur Affinity was previously owned by '''Ferrox Art LLC''', a [[Wikipedia:Limited liability company|limited liability company]] founded 25 February 2008, registered in [[Wikipedia:Lenhartsville, Pennsylvania|Lenhartsville, Pennsylvania]].<ref>[https://www.corporations.state.pa.us/corp/soskb/Corp.asp?2644408 Ferrox Art LLC (entity number 3791597)] - Pennsylvania Corporations, PA Department of State. Accessed 20 November 2013.</ref> On March 19, 2015, it was officially announced that Fur Affinity had been acquired by [[IMVU]]; the transaction had occurred in January 2015 but had not been publicly announced.<ref>[https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/6588324 "FA Joins the IMVU Family" - Fur Affinity. March 19, 2015.</ref> On February 1, 2021, Fur Affinity became independent again with ownership going back to Dragoneer, who has placed the website under the operation of a new company called '''Frost Dragon Art, LLC'''.<ref name="Feb 1 21"/>

==Staff==
Fur Affinity's staff as of February 2017 include:<ref name="staff">[http://www.furaffinity.net/staff/ "Staff"] - Fur Affinity. Retrieved March 9, 2018.</ref>
{|
|
;Staff Leads
* [[Chase (Fur Affinity administrator)|Chase]] - Director of Operations
* [[Dragoneer]] - Community Manager & Site Lead
* [[Shivadramon]] (Sciggles) - Director of Operations
|
;Administrators
* [[Asia Neko]] - Acceptable Upload Policy Enforcement
* [[Fox Amoore]] - Account Specialist
* [[Monique]] - Content Authenticity Assurance
|valign=top|
;Tech Team
* [[Net-cat]] - Code & Technical Services
* [[Yak (person)|Yak]] - Lead Coder
* [[Pickra]] - Coder
|}
Two pseudonymous moderators, Quetzal and Gazelle, are also listed. A "System Account" is used to send anonymous notices.<ref>[http://www.furaffinity.net/user/systemaccount/ "Fur Affinity System Account"] - Fur Affinity]</ref>

Past staff include [[Bazeel]], [[Carenath]], [[Cerberusnl|Cerbrus]], [[Glaide]], [[Grammatist]], [[Hendikins]], [[Jasu Fox]],<ref>''[https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/7128400/ Stepping down as Administrator ]'' - [[Jasu Fox]], Fur Affinity (23 October 2015)</ref> [[Keio]], [[Kryphosdrgn]], [[Kyoujin]], [[Luftwoofe]], [[Nero Silent]], [[Oddy]], [[Odin36519]], [[Photographurer]], [[Renashe Tradewind]],<ref>''[https://www.reddit.com/r/furry/comments/3h7tjm/my_experiences_as_a_member_of_fur_affinity_staff/ My experiences as a member of Fur Affinity staff, and my recent removal.]'' - GoingToTheOcean, [[Reddit]] (16 August 2016)</ref> [[QMelon]], [[quoting_mungo]],<ref>[https://www.furaffinity.net/journals/quotingmungo/#jid:8531112 Resigning from FA staff] - quoting_mungo's journal. Retrieved March 9, 2018.</ref> [[Sheepdust]], [[Silver R. Wolfe]], [[SSJ3Mewtwo]], [[Zidonuke|Starrykitten]], [[Summercat]], [[Surgat]], [[Trpdwarf]], [[Tsawolf]], [[Writerwren]] and [[Xaerun]].<ref>''[http://www.flayrah.com/3720/five-fur-affinity-staff-resign-some-citing-leadership-failures Five Fur Affinity staff resign, some citing leadership failures]'' - [[Rakuen Growlithe]], [[Flayrah]] (29 October 2011)</ref>{{cn}}

== Statistics ==

* In late 2010, the monthly hosting bill for Fur Affinity was just under $1,700 <ref>''http://twitpic.com/2g8t5x'' - TwitPic Posted on August 19, 2010
by Dragoneer</ref>. This includes a full equipment rack, bandwidth, and IP addresses. The monthly cost likely increased with the addition of extra bandwidth (Increasing the total to 350Mbit) in early 2012.<ref>https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/3484539/</ref>
* In less than a year since the site's re-launch, Fur Affinity gained over 45,000 users and over 300,000 submissions. {{fact}}
* Alexa has previously ranked Fur Affinity in the [http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?site0=www.furaffinity.net&site1=vclart.net&site2=&site3=&site4=&x=75&y=15&h=300&w=610&h=400&w=700&z=3&range=1y&size=medium&y=r&z=3&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.furaffinity.net top 4,000 sites] on the web in 1 November 2007, showing greater traffic than the VCL for most of the previous year. The trend continued through 2008 and 2009. Fur Affinity has ranked as high as 3,475 on individual days, and close to 2,000 in the USA. In October 2010, Fur Affinity's rank fell to 7681.
* Fur Affinity reached its 1,000,000th submission on 11 January 2008. It reached its 2,000,000th submission on 15 February 2009, and its 3,000,000th submission in November 2009.
* As of 20 March 2015, the site had 11,142,451 active submissions (15,995,066 total created), 1,195,253 active users (1,218,456 created), 324,226,064 favorites, and an average of 671 accounts, 8,000+ submissions, 42,462 comments and 10,452 page shouts were created per day.<ref>"[https://twitter.com/Dragoneer/status/578970926575931394 For those interested, here's some spiffy FA statistics!
http://pastebin.com/DjsSCcuh"] - Dragoneer, Twitter (20 March 2015)</ref>
* Fur Affinity say they served ~38.8TB of data to over 2.1 million visitors in February 2016.<ref>[https://twitter.com/furaffinity/status/706027275741962240 "In February, FA served up 1,777,662,272 files (over 38.8TB total bandwidth) to 2,173,564 total visitors."] - Fur Affinity, Twitter (5 March 2016)</ref>

== Hardware ==
[[File:Furaffinity Server Farm.jpg|thumb|250px|Former Fur Affinity's servers Bahamut, Tiamat, Novastorm and Trogdor (unlabeled).]]
Fur Affinity owns various server hardware, some of which has been re-purposed or retired over time. Between 2010 and September 2020, the site was hosted out of an InfoRelay<ref>[https://twitter.com/furaffinity/status/523976743263404032 "Our historical uptime has actually been fairly solid since we moved to InfoRelay. Prior to that... yeah. It was bad."] - Fur Affinity, Twitter (20 October 2014)</ref> (later acquired by Atlantic Metro) [[Wikipedia:Data center|data center]] in [[Wikipedia:Reston, Virginia|Reston]], [[Wikipedia:Virginia|Virginia]].<ref>[https://twitter.com/furaffinity/status/15605533053 "The current servers are hosted in a professional colo facility in Reston, VA."] - Fur Affinity, Twitter (7 June 2010)</ref>

In April 2020, FurAffinity announced it was moving to a new "hardware platform" it called "King Ghidora"<ref>''[https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/9468101/ 4/16/20 - New Hardware & Policy Updates]'' - [[Fender]] (16 April 2020)</ref>. FurAffinity did not offer many specifics on this platform other than that it utilized "112 CPU cores, 1,536GB of memory, [and] 153.6TB of enterprise SSD storage" and that it was purchased from income from the FA+ subscription service. On September 9, FurAffinity announced the move was complete.<ref>''[https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/9614588/ 9/9/20 - Site Migration Complete + Known Issues]'' - [[Fender]] (9 September 2020)</ref> This transition relocated the FurAffinity servers to an undisclosed location, with Dragoneer only saying they had to ship a 14 Terabyte hard drive "cross country" as part of the move.<ref>[https://twitter.com/Dragoneer/status/1303960672062058496 "To aid in the data transfer to the new FA host we bought a 14TB hard drive and filled it, shipped it cross country, then uploaded it to the new servers."] - Dragoneer, Twitter (10 September 2020)</ref> It is possible the servers were moved into a facility controlled by then-owner IMVU, which is headquartered in [[California]].

While hosted at an InfoRelay, FA had access to 2Gbps of bandwidth leased as of November 2015.<ref>[https://twitter.com/furaffinity/status/661398015127744512 "Tonight's maintenance was to upgrade FA to a 2 gigabit network link."] - Fur Affinity, Twitter (3 November 2015)</ref>

=== 2014/15 upgrades ===

In September 2014, Fur Affinity bought additional hardware:<ref>''[http://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/wishlist/259XYIXJ8U486/ Fur Affinity Parts Wishlist]'' - [[Dragoneer]] (3 September 2014)</ref><ref>''[http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/6122156 Banner Update, Upcoming Beta & Ad Server Upgrade]'' - [[Fender]] (17 September 2014)</ref>
* File server: Supermicro SuperServer 6017R-72HDP+ 1U with Intel Xeon E5-2603 v2 Quad-Core CPU (1.8GHz, 10MB cache), 128Gb 1600MHz DDR3 ECC RAM, 12 WD 4TB SATAIII drives (7200 RPM, 64 MB cache)
* Application servers (4): Asus RS300-E8-PS4 1U with Xeon E3-1240 v3 Quad-Core CPU (3.4GHz, 8MB cache), 32GB DDR ECC RAM, 2x128Gb SSDs
* Advertising server: Xeon 1270 v3 Quad-Core CPU (3.5 GHz, 8MB cache), 32GB DDR3 ECC RAM and 2xSSDs

In Spring 2015, additional hardware purchases were announced, in connection with the IMVU purchase.

=== Pre-2020 hardware ===
{| class="wikitable sortable" border="1"
|-
! scope="col" | Name
! scope="col" class="unsortable" | Purpose
! scope="col" class="unsortable" | Hardware Notes
! scope="col" | First Used
! scope="col" | Status
|-
| '''Routezilla''' || Router || Cisco 7301 router || ? || Presumed in use
|-
| '''Switchthulu''' || Network Switch || 48-port [[wikipedia:Cisco|Cisco]] Catalyst 3560. Replaced an older 24-port Cisco 3750, also called "Switchthulu" || ? || Presumed in use
|-
| '''Neo Bahamut''' || Database Backup || Dual-core 2.0GHz Opteron 1212 with 2GB DDR2-667 RAM.<ref name="Feb2013Summary" /> Storage consists of 4x 1TB hard drives in RAID5. Concern expressed by Dragoneer about its worth vs. power draw. || ? || In use
|-
| '''Novastorm''' || Database || a [[Wikipedia:Sun Fire|Sun Fire X4150]] manufactured by [[Wikipedia:Sun Microsystems]] with twin quad-core 2.5Ghz Xeon 5420 processors and 64GB of RAM (as of March 2010).<ref>[http://twitter.com/Dragoneer/status/10912188478 Novastorm upgrade tweet] - [[Dragoneer]]'s Twitter (23 March 2010)</ref> Storage consists of 2x 74GB 15K RPM hard drives in RAID1 and 6x146GB 15K RPM hard drives in RAID10. The server was initially purposed as the "Application server" but eventually converted to run the Database. This server was bought with donations following the July 2009 outage. Although Novastorm was replaced by Finn/Jake in September 2013, it is apparently still active, though its use is not clear.<ref>https://trello.com/c/CLruJ1b5/65-upgrade-packages-on-novastorm</ref>|| August 2009 || In use
|-
| '''Figment''' || Virtualization Server Ad server, Email server || Dual quad-core 2.33Ghz Xeon 5345 with 32GB of RAM and 6x1TB<ref name="Feb2013Summary" /> of storage. Figment was purchased with the intent of offering hosting<ref>''http://twitter.com/furaffinity/status/10203450025'' - FA Twitter - March 8, 2010</ref> on it "sometime in April... or May, or maybe August" of 2010<ref>''http://twitter.com/furaffinity/status/10942579229'' - FA Twitter - March 23 2010</ref> and also served advertisements<ref>''http://twitter.com/furaffinity/status/10936829317'' - FA Twitter</ref>. Server was named by [[Sciggles]].<ref>''http://twitter.com/furaffinity/status/10585322442'' - FA Twitter</ref> || 2010 || In use/"Spare Servers Pool"<ref>https://trello.com/c/oy0HkfgT/6-repurpose-figment-in-spare-servers-pool</ref>
|-
| '''Sparkz''' || Network Monitoring || Twin dual-core 2.4Ghz Opteron 2216 system with 48GB of RAM. The server was named by FA donator Dax. This server is the only server in a group of four donated servers (The others being Shivan, Tonberry, and Lapse) that is known to have been put into service. || November 30, 2010<ref>[https://twitter.com/furaffinity/status/9825447189680128 @Furaffinity tweet]</ref> || In use
|-
| '''Finn'''* || Database Server || A custom-built server in a Supermicro SuperServer SYS-6027R-WRF chassis with at least one Intel Xeon 6C E5 2620 processor, 64GB of RAM, and 6 15k HDD's in an unknown RAID. This server was built by donations received in February 2013.<ref>http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/4389184</ref> See note below. || December 16, 2013 || Still in use as of August 2016<ref name="Aug16Maintenance">''[https://forums.furaffinity.net/threads/mainsite-database-maintenance-on-aug-16-2016-at-1pm-utc.1587952/#post-5570287 Mainsite database maintenance on Aug 16, 2016 at 1PM UTC]'' - [[Yak]], [[Fur Affinity Forums]] (16 August 2016)</ref>
|-
| '''Jake'''* || Database Server || A custom-built server in a Supermicro SuperServer SYS-6027R-WRF chassis with at least one Intel Xeon 6C E5 2620 processor, 64GB of RAM, and 6 15k HDD's in an unknown RAID. This server was built by donations received in February 2013.<ref>http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/4389184</ref> See note below || September 16, 2013 ''(as "Finn") November 2014 || Possibly in use
|-
| '''Smaug''' || App Server || 16-core Xeon, "full SSD", 128GB DDR4 RAM.<ref name="TimatSpace">[https://twitter.com/furaffinity/status/597474071425724417 Filling Tiamat's old space will be Spike (16-core, full SSD, 128GB RAM) and Smaug (48TB storage server).] - Fur Affinity, Twitter (10 May 2015)</ref> || July 29, 2015<ref>[https://twitter.com/furaffinity/statuses/626430475058417664 "Earlier today, we officially rolled the site over to our new app server, Smaug (a 16-core Xeon system running DDR4 and SSDs). Woosh!"] - Fur Affinity, Twitter (29 July 2015)</ref> || Presumed in use
|-
| '''Spike''' || Storage Server || 48TB disk drives<ref name="TimatSpace" /><ref>[https://twitter.com/Dragoneer/status/640633455320150016 "Finn, Jake, Spike and Smaug"] - Dragoneer, Twitter (6 September 2015)</ref> || ? || Unknown
|}

* '''Finn''' and '''Jake''' are identical and were bought with the purpose of building a redundant database cluster. For unknown reasons, Finn was brought online first, with Jake supposedly following behind<ref>http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/5058966/</ref> later that week. In December 2013, an issue came up that put the site into "Read Only" for a week. FA then moved the database to Jake, which was apparently not put into service yet. However, in November 2014, [[Zidonuke]] said that Jake was sitting idle "for almost a year"<ref>http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/6265766#cid:43149324</ref>, suggesting that when the database was moved, the names were swapped. As of November 2014, the idle database server was planned to be set as a slave for the purpose of handling notifications.

=== Additional retired hardware ===
{| class="wikitable sortable" border="1"
|-
! scope="col" | Name
! scope="col" class="unsortable" | Purpose
! scope="col" class="unsortable" | Hardware Notes
! scope="col" | First Used
! scope="col" | Retired
|-
| '''Gecko''' || Web Server || The original FA server, is a dual 3.0Ghz Nocona [[Wikipedia:Xeon|Xeon]] system with 4GB of RAM. Storage consists of 2x 250GB hard drives. The server is still used to host [[W:Team Fortress 2|Team Fortress 2]] servers for the [[Furry Pound]] and [[Wikipedia:Left 4 Dead|Left 4 Dead]] servers for the Fur Affinity Steam Gamers group. || ? || ?
|-
| '''Tiamat''' || Search || Twin dual-core 2.0Ghz [[Wikipedia:Opteron|Opteron 2212]] with 32GB DDR2-533 RAM || ? || August 31, 2010<ref>''http://twitter.com/furaffinity/status/22617961790'' - FA Twitter</ref> Hardware Failure. Removed May 2015.<ref>[https://twitter.com/furaffinity/status/597469579070300160/photo/1 "Tiamat, one of FA's oldest servers (2007), is finally off to greener pastures."] - Fur Affinity, Twitter (10 May 2015)</ref>
|-
| '''Shivan''' || Unused/Unknown || Twin dual-core 2.4Ghz Opteron 2216 system with 48GB of RAM. The server was named by FA donator TlaiLaxu. || ? || ?
|-
| '''Tonberry''' || Unused/Unknown || Twin dual-core 2.4Ghz Opteron 2216 system with 48GB of RAM. The server was named by FA donator YiffyHusky. || ? || ?
|-
| '''Lapse''' || Unused/Unknown || Twin dual-core 2.4Ghz Opteron 2216 system with 48GB of RAM || ? || ?
|-
| '''Trogdor''' || File/App Server || A [[Wikipedia:Dell|Dell]] Poweredge 2970 2U Server with 32GB RAM and twin AMD Opteron 2212 CPUs.<ref name="Feb2013Summary">http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/4383428/#cid:32107771</ref> Storage consists of 6x 1TB hard drives - 4x in a RAID10 array, 1x RAID hotspare and 1x local backups. This server was bought with donations following the July 2009 outage. || August 2009 || October 2011<ref>http://forums.furaffinity.net/threads/108936-10-17-2011-File-read-only-mode</ref> Replaced by '''IO'''. Removed May 2015.<ref>[https://twitter.com/furaffinity/status/597481580123283456 "Turns out we are also saying a fond farewell to Trogdor. His days of FA burnination are over."] - Fur Affinity, Twitter (10 May 2015)</ref>
|-
| '''IO''' || File/App Server || An unspecified model which has dual Xeon E5435 CPUs<ref name="Feb2013Summary" />, 16GB RAM, and [https://twitter.com/#!/furaffinity/status/86538088809107456 12 Terabytes] worth of hard drives in it. This server replaced '''Trogdor'''. || October 2011 || December 25th, 2016<ref>''https://twitter.com/Dragoneer/status/813187858731331584'' - Dragoneer, Twitter (Dec. 25 2016)</ref> Replaced by 48tb Storage Server, and replaced due to drive failures.<ref>''https://twitter.com/Dragoneer/status/813281978900447236'' - Dragoneer, Twitter (Dec. 26 2016)</ref>
|-
|}

==Confirmed future features==

{| class="wikitable sortable" border="1"
|-
! scope="col" | Feature
! scope="col" class="unsortable" | Official Mentions
! scope="col" | Status
! scope="col" class="unsortable" | Notes
|-
| On-demand printing || [http://forums.furaffinity.net/threads/371-FA-Funding December 2005] [http://web.archive.org/web/20150822221412/https://forums.furaffinity.net/threads/55797-is-FA-better-off-becoming-a-pay-site#post1347804 November 2009] ||style="background: #ffcccc" | Not Implemented||
|-
| Content filtering || [http://web.archive.org/web/20150821170440/https://forums.furaffinity.net/threads/3965-FA-Policy-Notice-Cub-Art November 2006] ||style="background: #ffcccc" | Not Implemented|| Proposed for Ferrox.
|-
| New UI || [http://web.archive.org/web/20141117060336/https://forums.furaffinity.net/threads/7472-FA-Project-UI-Overhaul April 2007] [http://web.archive.org/web/20150822210449/https://forums.furaffinity.net/threads/72193-New-FA-looks-exactly-like-steam-amp-DA-!-WTF!!#post1853302 May 2010] [http://web.archive.org/web/20150323184607/https://forums.furaffinity.net/threads/90879-Fur-Affinity-Turns-6 January 2011] ||style="background: #99ff99" | Implemented<ref>https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/9364332</ref>|| Released from beta on December 31, 2019.
|-
| New "dark" theme || [https://forums.vivisector.org/index.php?topic=588.msg6749#msg6749 May 2012] [https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/3887366/ October 2012]||style="background: #99ffff" | Part of new UI|| The new UI contains both "dark" and "light" themes, among others.
|-
| "Character Information" || [https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/3887366/ October 2012]||style="background: #ffff99" | In Progress|| A placeholder for a "Character Information" widget is present in the new dark theme.
|-
| Opossums (pss.ms) URL shortener || [https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/1648317/ August 2010] ||style="background: #ffcccc" | Not Implemented|| pss.ms is currently down.
|-
| Web hosting || [http://web.archive.org/web/20150822221414/https://forums.furaffinity.net/threads/55797-is-FA-better-off-becoming-a-pay-site/page7#post1353001 November 2009] [https://twitter.com/furaffinity/status/10936829317 March 2010] [https://twitter.com/furaffinity/status/10936829317] ||style="background: #ffcccc" | Not Implemented||
|-
| Supporter ribbons || [https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/1836349/ November 2010] ||style="background: #ffcccc" | Not Implemented||
|-
| Note/inbox search || [https://twitter.com/furaffinity/status/24023831950 September 2010] ||style="background: #ffcccc" | Not Implemented||
|-
| Artist list and reviews ''"Commission Ratings"'' || [http://web.archive.org/web/20150827063155/https://forums.furaffinity.net/threads/1342-Search-Function-User-List June 2006] [http://web.archive.org/web/20150323184607/https://forums.furaffinity.net/threads/90879-Fur-Affinity-Turns-6 January 2011] ||style="background: #ffcccc" | Not Implemented||
|-
| Improved commenting || [http://web.archive.org/web/20150323184607/https://forums.furaffinity.net/threads/90879-Fur-Affinity-Turns-6 January 2011] ||style="background: #ffcccc" | Not Implemented||
|}

== References ==
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== See also ==

* [[FA Rank]]
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The '''Furry Book of Style''' is a guide to style and layout on [[WikiFur]]. This page covers the presentation of information; technical information on syntax is in the section about [[Help:Editing|editing]]. If you want the pages you edit to fit in well with WikiFur - and you should! - you should try to ensure that they use the styling and layout presented here.

If you do not know exactly how to do something, don't worry - do what you can, and then ask for help with formatting in your edit summary or on the article talk page. Remember that if there is another page that uses a certain technique, you can edit it to see how it's done. As with all style guides, it is sometimes appropriate to break the rules - just don't do so needlessly!

These first few paragraphs are called the ''lead section'', and they are the most important parts of an article. They are indexed heavily by search engines and are usually the first thing a visitor reads. You should ensure that the lead section contains a synopsis of the page's content, and a few of the most relevant links to other wiki pages.

The full name of the subject should be prominently present '''in bold text'''. Other names, aliases and abbreviations that commonly represent the same concept should be included, also in bold, and you should add those pages as redirects to the main page (edit the entries to be <tt><nowiki>#REDIRECT [[Main Page Name]]</nowiki></tt>).
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== Headers ==

Headers are used to denote boundaries between sections. They are present on almost all pages, as even short articles have external links with more information.

Header titles on WikiFur are normally not capitalized after the first letter, unless there is a proper noun involved. There should be a single blank line before and after the header, as this provides for easier reading when editing without inserting extra space into the output.

=== Header types ===

There are several different levels of heading, each denoted by increasing level of = marks. The first level is typically not used unless three levels of "ruled" section dividers are appropriate, as it's rather big and restarts the section numbering - the second, third and fourth levels are most popular, while the fifth is used rarely, and the sixth almost never.

==== Fourth level ====

===== Fifth level =====

====== Sixth level ======

Note that text written here still stays the same size as other text in the article, making sixth level headers harder to notice.

If you find yourself going five or six levels deep in an article, you may want to consider a different organization scheme or even breaking the article up into separate articles.

=== Table of Contents ===

A ''Table of Contents'' is automatically added before the first section heading on pages with more than four headers. If desired, it can be hidden by adding <tt><nowiki>__NOTOC__</nowiki></tt> anywhere on the page (it does not have to be on a separate line).

If it is getting in the way or would look better elsewhere, it's possible to force it to display in a particular place by typing <tt><nowiki>__TOC__</nowiki></tt> where you want it to appear. This will also force it to appear on pages with fewer than four headers (as will <tt><nowiki>__FORCETOC__</nowiki></tt>, for the default position). A common trick is to "float" the table to one side, with <tt><nowiki><div style="float:right">__TOC__</div></nowiki></tt>

== Edit links ==

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If it is not possible to use the correct title - for example, an IRC channel, which starts with a # - name the article something like [[Yiffnetbeats (IRC)]] and put this template at the top: <tt><nowiki>{{wrongtitle|title=#yiffnetbeats}}</nowiki></tt>. Link to the article with piped links (<tt><nowiki>[[Yiffnetbeats (IRC)|#yiffnetbeats]]</nowiki></tt>).

== Articles about people ==

Fan names, [[fursona]] names, or aliases are generally preferred over [[real life]] names. Be careful about connecting the real name of someone to an article about them, even as a redirect. If they include their real name on their website or typically use both a real name and a fan name, that's fair enough. Otherwise, avoid it - absent an overriding public interest, such as evidence of fraud or other criminal activity.

At the start of the article, give the person's full name, along with any public alternative names. Use '''bold''' text for such names; you should normally create a [[Wikipedia:Help:Redirect|redirect]] from that name to the current article. In subsequent paragraphs, start with whatever name is commonly used to refer to them within furry fandom (often the first part of their name), and continue with the [[Wikipedia:Personal pronoun|personal pronoun]] set that the individual has most recently indicated preference for. If this is not known, use what is commonly used for them within furry fandom; if this is also unclear, refer to them by name or use [[Wikipedia:Singular they|singular "they"]] throughout the article.

Names and pronouns may change over time; concisely explain such changes, while maintaining consistent usage. Where one name is preferred, try to communicate this, while avoiding wording which implies equivalent usage.

Secondary character names may first be mentioned in a subsection if they are not typically used to refer to the person. Such names should still be bolded, and the relevant pages should be redirected or disambiguated as appropriate.

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Avoid future plans (such as convention attendance) and unordered lists of facts; form the latter into paragraphs of coherent, descriptive prose.

Articles should be written in the third-person. When writing about yourself, avoid the use of ''I''.

== Articles about conventions and events ==
{{see also|WikiFur:Convention_checklists}}

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Convention information are recorded in many places on WikiFur, and conventions tend to have many related articles, that it can be hard to keep track what to update. You can use '''[[WikiFur:Convention_checklists|these checklists]]''' when you are creating or updating articles about a convention.

== Redirects ==

If there are many possible names for an article, you should pick the best one and then add redirects from all the other pages to that page. Do this by editing the other pages and placing <tt><nowiki>#REDIRECT [[Main page title]]</nowiki></tt>. As above, be careful about redirecting, or linking to or from a character that is not publicly associated with a person.

== The, a, etc ==

If the subject of an article properly starts with an article, such as ''the'', (e.g. [[The Prancing Skiltaire]]), you should generally include that article and redirect from the name without the article.

=== Correct category sorting ===

Do not do something like moving an article to the end ([[Prancing Skiltaire, The]]) to ensure correct categories. Instead, do this: <tt><nowiki>[[Category:Furry homes|Prancing Skiltaire, The]]</nowiki></tt> or <tt><nowiki>{{DEFAULTSORT:Prancing Skiltaire, The}}</nowiki></tt>. This is a common issue for articles about works of fiction.

== Articles about websites ==

WikiFur contains information on many [[:Category:Websites|websites]]. As the site is the purpose of the article, links are typically ''not'' relegated to an ''External links'' section (see below), but are instead placed in the lead section, after a short (one paragraph) introduction. The links are presented in an unordered list, along with a summary of important facts about the website. The website logo, if any, is placed floating to the right of this introduction. Alternatively, the {{tl|Infobox website}} template may be used.

For example, here is a lead section for the article about [[WikiFur]]:
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[[Image:Wiki.png|right|WikiFur]]
'''WikiFur''' is a website dedicated to the collection of information about the furry [[:Category:Community|community]] and its [[:Category:Culture|culture]], among other things. It is built by contributions from readers - anyone can edit the site, and their changes are reflected immediately.

:''For more information about how WikiFur works, see '''[[WikiFur:About]]'''''

*'''Addresses''':
**'''Web site''': http://wikifur.com/
**'''LiveJournal''': http://community.livejournal.com/wikifur/
*'''Founder''': [[GreenReaper]]
*'''Colleagues''': [[WikiFur:Colleagues|(see list)]]
*'''Contributors''': see the [http://stats.wikifur.com/EN/TablesWikiFurEN.htm#wikipedians site statistics]
*'''Ran from/to''': 24 July 2005 - present
*'''Mottos''': ''WikiFur: By furries, for furries, about furries''; and ''WikiFur, the furry encyclopedia''
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If a website has only one relevant address, you should skip the '''Web site''' and just put it as the '''Address'''. Redirections should be indicated with an arrow (->) from the redirection name to the actual address.

If a website is currently down (temporarily or permanently), it is good to include a link to a [http://web.archive.org/ Internet Archive] copy of the page, if available. Do so after the main link, as so:

*'''Address''': greenreaper.co.uk -> http://bath.ac.uk/~cs1lomp/ (down; see [http://web.archive.org/web/20040522190910/www.bath.ac.uk/~cs1lomp/ archive])

== Pictures ==
[[Image:Furrypeace.png|right|Furry Peace logo]]
Images should normally be floated to one side - large pictures should be sized appropriately by specifying a size on the '''File:''' tag. It is rarely appropriate to have an image wider than 300px, unless the intention is to cover the width of the whole page.

It may be appropriate to place a picture without a frame, especially if it has a white background. Most buttons and banners are displayed in this way.

Consider using one or more [[m:Help:Images and other uploaded files#Gallery|<nowiki><gallery></nowiki> sections]] for multiple related images, especially where floating images would lengthen the page and create a large amount of white space.

== Stubs ==

Very short pages (generally two paragraphs or less, excluding links) that could be expanded are termed ''stubs''. These pages should include the <tt><nowiki>{{stub}}</nowiki></tt> template (or a more specific variant, like <tt><nowiki>{{person-stub}}</nowiki></tt>).

'''Note:''' If there really is very little to be said about something, it's not a stub, but it may be more appropriate to merge it with another page.

== Categories ==

Categories help organization and offer readers a way to browse through related articles. Articles are added to categories with <tt><nowiki>[[Category:Name of category]]</nowiki></tt> at the end of the article, either all in one line or on separate lines. Like article names, category names should only be capitalized for words that are normally capitalized - thus, <tt><nowiki>[[Category:Further Confusion]]</nowiki></tt> would be correct, but <tt><nowiki>[[Category:Convention Terms]]</nowiki></tt> would not: the correct name is [[:Category:Convention terms]].

Regarding sub categories, the most specific category is prioritized. For example, if you are categorizing a movie, it belongs in <tt><nowiki>[[Category:Movies]]</nowiki></tt> and not <tt><nowiki>[[Category:Culture]]</nowiki></tt>, which is the parent of <tt><nowiki>[[Category:Movies]]</nowiki></tt>. The exception is an article on a person, which should always have [[:Category:People]].

Categories should reflect the information in the article, and vice versa. For example, a person's article could have [[:Category:1980 births]], but should also have (born 1980) in the article text.

If you are unsure of which category something belongs in, place it in <tt><nowiki>[[Category:Unsorted]]</nowiki></tt>, and someone else will take care of it.

For a person, <tt><nowiki>[[Category:People]]</nowiki></tt> comes first, then furry-specific categories like [[:Category:Fursuiters]] or convention staff membership, followed by other categories, including the species of their character, their location (only the most specific; [[:Category:Toronto]], not [[:Category:Ontario]] or [[:Category:Canada]]), ended with their birth year as the last category. If the ordering is still not clear, put the most relevant ones first.

'''See [[Help:Categories]] for more detail.'''

== General advice ==

* Write actively and concisely
* Write an article you would want to read
* Write in a way that encourages interest in the topic
* Write with a view to future expansion
** Insert appropriate links, even if they don't exist yet
** If a section should be there, add it, even if you don't write more than a line about it
* Write what you know - and if you don't know, find out
* Use headings, pictures and '''Did you know?''' sections to break up long passages of text

= Links to other documents =

WikiFur is a big place—but there's far more out there than we can or should put on WikiFur. There are hundreds of great resources for [[furry fandom]] information, as well as the actual items of interest. Links to these external resources are typically placed in a section at the bottom of an article, unless they are part of a website as described above.

It ''is'' sometimes appropriate to insert external links into the main text of an article. This is typically done with links to further information that is directly related to the text, such as a forum conversation, and where a References section is inappropriate.

== See also ==

The ''See also'' section is used to link to other wiki articles, either on WikiFur or on other places, that are related but which were '''not''' included as links in the main text of the article. You can link to Wikipedia by adding <tt><nowiki>[[Wikipedia:</nowiki></tt> at the front of your links. If you want to link to non-English article at Wikipedia, add <tt><nowiki>[[Wikipedia:language-code:article-name|text-to-display]]</nowiki></tt> (for example: [[Wikipedia:List of Wikipedias#Wikipedia edition codes|language-code]] for Japanese is '''ja''' so link would be <tt><nowiki>[[Wikipedia:ja:article-name|text-to-display]]</nowiki></tt>.)

If you want to link to [[List of WikiFur projects and affiliates|a WikiFur article in another language]], add <tt><nowiki>[[:language-code:article-name|text-to-display]]</nowiki></tt>. To indicate that an article is on the same topic as an article in another language, add <tt><nowiki>[[language-code:article-name|text-to-display]]</nowiki></tt> at the end (example: this page has interwiki links such as <tt><nowiki>[[pt:Ajuda:Livro de estilo]]</nowiki></tt>.)

You can link to Wikia by adding <tt><nowiki>[[wikia:subdomain-of-the-wiki</nowiki></tt> at the front of your links. (for example: subdomain-of-the-wiki of http://'''muppet'''.wikia.com/ is '''muppet''' so link would be <tt><nowiki>[[wikia:muppet:article-name|text-to-display]]</nowiki></tt>.)

Items are presented in an unordered list, as below:

* [[Help:Contents|Help contents]]
* [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Manual of Style|Manual of Style]] at Wikipedia
* Wikipedia's items on [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Manual of Style (headings)|headings]], [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Manual of Style (links)|links]] and [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Footnotes|footnotes]]

== References ==

Reference sections contain references (citiations) for information in the article. Titles should be presented ''in italics'', and a date should be noted, if known (and appropriate). References to online material should include the date that material was last updated (if it is on the material), and the date it was retrieved, ''i.e.'' looked at and made a reference.

References are usually presented as a ''numbered list'' (<tt>#</tt>). If you wish to refer to items in the body of the text, you should use the newer method of referencing<ref>[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:Cite/Cite.php#Usage|Cite extension]] - MediaWiki user guide</ref> which lends itself to a reasonably natural style and reduces the need for templates. Read the reference below for more information.

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== External links ==

The external links section contains off-site links to related web material. They are presented in an unordered list. Try to separate links for site names like this:

* [https://greenreaper.deviantart.com/ GreenReaper] on [[deviantART]]

The title of the link can be in italics for the names of journals and the like.

If a link is of a mature nature, it may be appropriate to float a [[:Category:Rating images|rating image button]] to the right of it (e.g. <tt><nowiki>[[File:Censor MA button.png|right]]</nowiki></tt>). If there are large numbers of links, some mature and some not, divide the sections with a horizontal rule (<tt><nowiki>----</nowiki></tt>) and use different buttons, or use subheadings.

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Welcome to the help desk. This is a place to get help from other members of WikiFur's community. To add a new topic, please type a meaningful title in the box below and click "Add new topic".

For other sources of help, please see the [[Help:Contents]] and [[:Category:WikiFur help]]. You can also [[WikiFur:Colleagues|contact a curator]] directly.

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=== <big>But I'm just one fur, how can I help?</big> ===
* Well, for a start you can '''[[Special:Userlogin|register]]'''!
* Whether it's your first time editing, or you're an experienced wiki user, it's best to read the '''[[:Category:Policies and guidelines|policies]]''' and '''[[Help:Editing|editing guide]]'''
* Start an article. Maybe your own, maybe '''[[Special:Wantedpages|someone else's]]'''. Illustrate it with '''[[Special:Upload|pictures and sound]]'''.
* Update the '''[[WikiFur:Dusty articles|old]]''' and '''[[:Category:Articles needing updating|outdated]]''', add to the '''[[Special:Newpages|new]]''', help the '''[[:Category:Stubs|little ones]]''' grow up and blossom into '''[[WikiFur:Featured articles|featured articles]]'''.
* Help the '''[[:Category:Cleanup|cleanup]]''' and '''[[:Category:Articles that need to be wikified|wikification]]''' process.
* Take your pick at choosing the '''[[WikiFur:Featured article candidates|featured article]]''' and '''[[WikiFur:Comic of the Week|comic of the week]]'''.
* Talk at the '''[[Forum:Index|forum]]''' or shout out a little furry '''[[WikiFur:Did you know?|trivia]]'''!
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'''[[WikiFur:What WikiFur is|What WikiFur Is]]''' · '''[[WikiFur:What WikiFur is not|What WikiFur Is Not]]'''

''Guidelines:'' [[WikiFur:Assume good faith|Assume good faith]] · [[WikiFur:Be bold|Be bold]] · [[WikiFur:Please do not bite the newcomers|Do not bite the newcomers]] · [[WikiFur:Convention checklists|Convention checklists]] · [[WikiFur:Notability, verifiability, and original research|Notability, verifiability, and original research]] · [[WikiFur:Protected pages|Protected pages]] · [[WikiFur:Species|Species]]

''Policies:'' [[WikiFur:Anonymous proxies|Anonymous proxies]] · [[WikiFur:Colleagues|Colleagues]] · [[WikiFur:Consensus|Consensus]] · [[WikiFur:Copyrights|Copyrights]] · [[WikiFur:Image use policy|Image use policy]] · [[WikiFur:No legal threats|No legal threats]] · [[WikiFur:No personal attacks|No personal attacks]] · [[WikiFur:Personal information|Personal information]] · [[WikiFur:Speedy deletion|Speedy deletion]] · [[WikiFur:Starting a new language|Starting a new language]]

''Proposals:'' [[WikiFur:Accuracy dispute|Accuracy disputes]] ([[WikiFur talk:Accuracy dispute|discuss]]) · [[WikiFur:Deceased Wikifurries|Deceased Wikifurries]] ([[WikiFur talk:Deceased Wikifurries|discuss]]) · [[WikiFur:Dispute resolution|Dispute resolution]] ([[WikiFur talk:Dispute resolution|discuss]]) · [[WikiFur:Essay|Essays]] ([[WikiFur talk:Essay|discuss]]) · [[WikiFur:Notability|Notability]] ([[WikiFur talk:Notability|discuss]]) · [[WikiFur:NPOV dispute|NPOV dispute]] ([[WikiFur talk:NPOV dispute|discuss]]) · [[WikiFur:Please clarify|Please clarify]] ([[WikiFur talk:Please clarify|discuss]]) · [[WikiFur:Proposed deletion|Proposed deletion]] ([[WikiFur talk:Proposed deletion|discuss]])
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Help:Registration

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You can do an awful lot on WikiFur without even logging in - so why should you?

Well, here's a few reasons:

* You gain the ability to:
** [[Special:Upload|upload images and sound files]]
** add pages to your personal ''[[Special:Watchlist|watchlist]]'' and easily check them for updates (with optional [[WikiFur:News/Email notification installed|email notification]])
** mark edits as "minor"
** set various editing and viewing [[Special:Preferences|preferences]]
* You get your own user page where people can contact you (optionally by email) and where you can talk about your contributions and interests
* People are more likely to respect your edits and opinions, especially where there are disagreements. It is easier to build up a reputation as a named user.
* You can keep your IP address secret from other users (note: this won't help you avoid bans)
* Only named users can become [[WikiFur:Colleagues|colleagues]] or gain other abilities
* You'll get a translation link in the toolbox for each page (from English to other languages)

== See also ==
* [[Wikipedia:Why create an account?]]

[[Category:WikiFur help|Registration]]

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WikiFur

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{{Infobox website
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| caption = ''WikiFur: By furries, for furries, about furries''; and ''WikiFur, the furry encyclopedia''
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'''WikiFur''' is a website dedicated to the collection and preservation of information about the [[furry]] [[:Category:Community|community]] and [[:Category:Culture|culture]]. It is a [[wiki]], built by contributions from readers and built on [[w:MediaWiki|MediaWiki]], a free software open source wiki package written in PHP, originally for use on [[Wikipedia]], which anyone can edit the site, and their changes are reflected immediately. Translation/localization efforts exist in [[:zh:|Chinese]], [[:cs:|Czech]], [[:da:|Danish]], [[:nl:|Dutch]], [[:eo:|Esperanto]], [[:et:|Estonian]], [[:de:|German]], [[:fr:|French]], [[:hu:|Hungarian]], [[:it:|Italian]], [[:ja:|Japanese]], [[:ko:|Korean]], [[:no:|Norwegian]], [[:pl:|Polish]], [[:pt:|Portuguese]], [[:ru:|Russian]] and [[:es:|Spanish]], with affiliates in [[:fi:|Finnish]] and [[:sv:|Swedish]].

WikiFur has been at WikiFur.com since 2009.

:''For more information about how WikiFur works, see '''[[WikiFur:About]]'''''

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== Mission and content ==

WikiFur's stated mission is to "record information of use to the furry community", in an attempt to distribute it to others. This mission has been widely interpreted, and WikiFur contains articles on [[art]], [[literature]] and other forms of culture both created by and of interest to members of the [[furry fandom]], as well as the people and [[character]]s within it, their history and interests, the worlds they inhabit, [[:News:Front Page|news]] on events of current interest, and much more besides. It can also offer a good introduction to the [[fandom]], although [[W:Furry fandom|Wikipedia's article]] is considered by WikiFur's founder to remain the best single page on the topic.

Motives for contributors vary. There are those who simply enjoy collecting and organizing information on [[anthropomorphic]] topics. Many are fans of particular topics and wish to help write "the definitive article" on it. Some see WikiFur as a means of "getting the truth out" about contentious subjects like the [[babyfur]] community, while others value it as a source of information which, while not completely without bias, is at least subject to an element of peer review and modification.

== Audience and impact ==

As of March 2012, WikiFur attracted around 7500 visitors and 21,000 page views per day in English, and around 1500 visitors and 4000 page views in other languages.<ref>[[W:Google Analytics|Google Analytics]] figures</ref> Around 3000 edits were made per month (~2000 in English), with 50-60 contributors making five or more edits, and four to eight contributors making 100 or more edits.<ref name=wikistatsen>[[stats:EN/TablesWikiFurEN.htm|English WikiFur statistics]]</ref><ref name=wikistatszz>[[stats:EN/TablesWikiFurZZ.htm|WikiFur global statistics]]</ref> Roughly seven articles are created a day, excluding those which are swiftly deleted.<ref name=wikistatszz />

WikiFur has been referenced by others within and without the fandom, including ''[[Animal Passions]]'', an article on [[Anthrocon 2006]] published in the [[Wikipedia:Pittsburgh City Paper|Pittsburgh City Paper]] and pieces in ''[[Wikipedia:T (New York Times)|T Magazine]]'', ''[[Wikipedia:L Magazine|L Magazine]]'' and [[Wikipedia:20 Minuten|20 Minuten]].<ref>''[http://tmagazine.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/15/digital-ramble-obsession/ The Digital Ramble | Obsession]'' - Rosecrans Baldwin, 15 May 2008)</ref><ref>''[http://www.thelmagazine.com/TheMeasure/archives/2012/03/15/an-interview-with-a-furry An Interview With a Furry]'' - Audrey Ference, ''[[Wikipedia:L Magazine|L Magazine]]'' (15 March 2012)</ref><ref>''[http://www.20min.ch/ro/life/lifestyle/story/26998226 Ces adultes qui enfilent un costume d'animal]'' - [[Wikipedia:20 Minuten|20 Minuten]] (10 August 2011)</ref> Some fans have mentioned WikiFur as the source of information leading them to attend a furry [[convention]].

WikiFur is linked to by [[WikiFur:Supporters#WikiFur Linking Supporters|several popular sites]], including [[PeterCat]]'s Furry Infopages, [[Wikipedia:TV Tropes|TV Tropes]], [[Inkbunny]], [[Furry News Network]], [[Encyclopædia Dramatica (.se)|Encyclopædia Dramatica]], [[Rabbit Valley]], [[Lake Area Furry Friends]] and the websites of [[Califur]] and [[Rocky Mountain Fur Con]]. The site has an international reputation, with links from [[Dutchfurs.com]], [[FranceFurs]], [[Furbase.de]] and [[Wolves' Paradise]], and partner agreements with [[TurriWiki]] and [[WikiLurv]].

== Organization ==

WikiFur consists of a loose [[W:federation|federation]] of wiki communities bound together by a common purpose. Each is run as a [[W:meritocracy|meritocracy]] granting [[WikiFur:Colleagues|greater power]] — and responsibility — to those who display ability and devote time to the project. Most decisions are dealt with by forming a consensus among small groups of interested editors, while larger issues are debated by the entire body. For example, when [[WikiFur:Moving hosts|searching for a new host]], WikiFur editors with relevant expertise submitted proposals that were discussed and voted on by most long-term users.

Significant authority rests with the founder, [[GreenReaper]], who owns the ''WikiFur'' mark and wikifur.com domain name, handles [[WikiFur:Donations|donations]], and manages the hosting provided by [[Timduru]]. He acts as the public face of the English project — and, by extension, WikiFur as a whole. However, editorial authority is vested in the entire body of colleagues, and his involvement in non-English projects is normally limited to technical, custodial and advisory matters.

Wiki projects not using the [[WikiFur:Trade and service marks|WikiFur marks]] or wikifur.com, but which share a common theme and principles (most notably, [[WikiFur:Copyright|freely licensed]] textual content and the [[metawikipedia:Neutral point of view|neutral point of view]]) are treated as sister sites, and added to the WikiFur [[mw:Manual:Interwiki#Interwiki links to other languages|interlanguage links]] and the international portal.

== Promotional activities and advertising ==

WikiFur has engaged in various methods of [[WikiFur:Promotion|promotion]] and [[WikiFur:Advertising|advertising]], the latter being paid for by [[WikiFur:Supporters|site supporters]]. Promotion usually focusses on two goals: increasing readership, and attracting new editors. Emphasis is often made of WikiFur's size, both in terms of articles and audience, and of the importance of its mission. Methods of promotion have included [[conbadge]]-like [[W:Business card|business cards]], [[:File:WikiFurAC2006Flyer.png|flyers]], ribbons, and posts and comments on news sites, forum and [[LiveJournal]]s, along with paid [[conbook]] advertising and [[Wikipedia:Google AdWords|Google AdWords]] coverage.

== Media coverage ==

Three weeks after its foundation, WikiFur was selected as [[Something Awful]]'s Awful Link of the Day.<ref>{{cite web|title=Awful Link of the Day|work=[[Something Awful]]|date=2005-08-15|url=http://www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=3132}}</ref> Massive vandalism ensued, but the boost in traffic allowed rapid growth.

It was selected by [[Wikia:Wikia|Wikia]] as Featured Wikicity in December 2005.<ref name="Wikia feature">[[Wikipedia:User:GreenReaper/Featured wiki/WikiFur|Wikia features WikiFur as Featured Wikicity]], December 2006</ref>

In May 2009, [[Wikipedia:Cracked.com|Cracked.com]] editor<ref>[http://www.cracked.com/members/David+Wong David Wong's cracked.com member page]. Retrieved 2009 June 12.</ref> David Wong included WikiFur as #4 in a list of "5 Terrifying Bastardizations of the WikiPedia Model". [[Wikipedia:Conservapedia|Conservapedia]] was #5, [[Wikipedia:Encyclopedia Dramatica|Encyclopedia Dramatica]] was #3, Pagan Wiki was #2, and [[Wikipedia:Metapedia|Metapedia]] was #1. The WikiFur section included modified excerpts of the WikiFur articles on [[Nazi Furs]], [[Yiff]], and [[The Furry Map of Denmark]]. David went on to call [[Christian Fur]]s especially weird for their depiction of Jesus as a lion.<ref>''[http://www.cracked.com/article_17341_5-terrifying-bastardizations-wikipedia-model.html 5 Terrifying Bastardizations of the WikiPedia Model]'' - David Wong, [[Wikipedia:Cracked.com|Cracked.com]] (11 May 2009)</ref>

== Controversy ==
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As a popular fandom site with avenues of discussion, WikiFur has its share of controversy.

=== Mission misuse ===

There's a belief{{cn}} that WikiFur could provide [[troll]]s and [[critic|other]] people with information that would be used to disparage the image of the furry fandom within mainstream society, by [[W:Disinformation|altering]] or [[:Category:Mature terms|exposing verbatim]] furry data and facts that could confuse people or disgust people, further enhancing the perceived [[stereotype]]s of the fandom.

There is also concern that WikiFur may be co-opted by such above mentioned people to push their own [[W:Wikipedia:NPOV dispute|point of view]] in the name of neutrality, as highlighted when an [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] user edited the same articles on both WikiFur and on ED at the same time.<ref name="j'accuse">[https://en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:SleepAtWork&oldid=70237#J.27accuse.21 Accusation of dubious editing practices] by [[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]] against [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]]</ref>

=== Privacy versus information ===

Roughly half of the articles on WikiFur are articles about people.<ref>August 18, 2011 calculation of 51%: 7138 articles in [[:Category:People]], 1900 articles as at [[Special:Statistics]].</ref> Contributors are encouraged to make articles about themselves, other members of the fandom and/or about people who create material of interest to furries, whether or not they consider themselves members of the fandom.{{cn}} But there is a continuing conflict between the goals of both respecting the [[WikiFur:Personal information|privacy of individuals]] and fully documenting the history of the fandom.

While the underlying goal of WikiFur regarding privacy is to do no harm to past or present users with articles in the wiki, this has led to the removal of some factual information from articles (normally by request), which always risks the charge that WikiFur is either failing to preserve furry history{{cn}} or that there are unstated motives for allowing for the removal of such information.{{cn}} Trying not to fall in either of those perceived camps has not been easy, and has led to heated discussion and criticism from both sides of the issue - History preservation conscious individuals accusing Wikifur of compromising its mission or "playing favorites,"{{cn}} or pro-privacy members calling the site a "stalker's heaven"{{cn}}

WikiFur may remove real names from an article that is not specifically about the person when the name is not relevant. For example, the name of [[Talk:Further Confusion/Eyes of the Night|the commissioner who bought a painting for $10,000 at auction]] was omitted because the issue was the price of the painting.

But some requests for private data removal are occasionally refused, specially if historical context{{cn}} or possible continuing repercussion to the fandom{{cn}} is present or possible (for the later see [[Mitch Beiro]], [[Mozdoc]], [[TORA]], [[Evil Sibe]], [[Frank Gembeck]], [[Ted Sheppard]], [[Alan T. Panda]], [[Mizzyam]], [[Formic Hivemind]], [[Wolfie Stonespirit]], [[Brown Leopard]], [[Keba]], [[Lightpaws]], etc), and making [[WikiFur:No legal threats|legal threats]] to WikiFur has not been effective in having information removed.

This privacy exception also carries over to the full [[WikiFur:Personal exclusion|personal exclusion]] of some user articles under the same guidelines. Furthermore, some notable and extremely notable people (famous or infamous) requesting exclusion are subject to a much stringent review for such by the site's community, and even if [[Karl Jorgensen|exclusion is granted]], some of their personal (not private) furry centric information is normally moved out to [[Hiroshima Cluehammer|relevant pages]], before exclusion is applied.

Although Europe is evolving a legal [[W:Right to be forgotten|right to be forgotten]], WikiFur is not compelled by law to remove any private information. Articles about comics and other public works are not removed even if the author requests it,<ref>[[Talk:Guardian Knights]]</ref> as they are not "personal information" but "public works".

=== Bias ===

As with other Wikis, there is an ever-present danger of bias on WikiFur. The most expected bias would be the simple fact that most contributors and editors are members of the furry fandom, and may be expected to likely have a "positive only" opinion of it. This can lead to accusations that certain articles are biased towards the fandom's position{{cn}} or as a tool against its critics.<ref>[http://forums.furaffinity.net/threads/75030-Rant-WikiFur Rant: WikiFur] by [[Kellie Gator]] on the [[Fur Affinity Forums]]. Retrieved ?.</ref>

Claims that an article is biased (in either direction) are typically resolved by removal of unsourced information, by providing references, or by giving attribution to any statements that are opinions. The decision on what information to include in an article, and in what proportion, may itself put the topic in a [[Wikipedia:False light|false light]]. The usual remedy is to suggest that the person complaining about it fix it by adding the appropriate relevant information or reference material.

=== Untruths ===

As opposed to personal information and opinion, WikiFur actively removes contributions that appear to be untrue. However, an acceptable standard for inclusion is that the contributor believes the information to be true. Actual facts are sometimes harder to determine, and WikiFur has made mistakes.{{cn}}

Despite this, WikiFur is cited as a relatively reliable source on contentious topics that it covers,<ref name="Starfinder_Beware">[http://community.livejournal.com/artists_beware/90313.html?thread=1638089#t1638089 Comment about WikiFur] in regards to [[Starfinder]] by [[Darkwolven]] in [[artists_beware]], 9 August 2006</ref> and it has been praised for its attempts to provide useful information while avoiding bias.<ref name="barona">[http://barona.livejournal.com/6037.html?thread=21653#t21653 Comment on the use of WikiFur] by [[Chris F. Grant]]</ref>

=== Vandalism ===

Like many furry forums and sites which allow comments, WikiFur has its share of vandals. However, since it is a simple matter to return to a previous state, most vandalism is reverted within minutes. The members of [[4chan]]'s ''/b/'' board took particular interest in the site, and regularly organized raids until August 2006.{{fact}}

Despite multiple attempts, no vandalism since Something Awful from any source has succeeded in disrupting WikiFur for more than a few hours{{fact}} - the worst case was a sophisticated account-registering bot that used the [[Wikipedia:Tor|Tor]] proxy system, which has since been blocked.

== Timeline ==
{{main|History of WikiFur}}
WikiFur was conceived in July 2005 by British software developer [[GreenReaper|Laurence "GreenReaper" Parry]] while creating an article for ''[[The Blind Pig]]'' on the English-language [[Wikipedia]]. Founded July 24, 2005 on the Wikicities (later Wikia) wiki hosting service, WikiFur was initially promoted on Wikipedia's [[wikipedia:furry fandom|furry fandom article]] talk page, followed by posts on [[LiveJournal]] and [[alt.fan.furry]]. By August 28, the wiki held over 1000 articles; the count reached 10,000 in 2008.

WikiFur also made inroads into non-English content, beginning in 2006 with an affiliation with the autonomously-administered Finnish-language [[Turriwiki]]; this was furthered with the launch of three Wikia-based language-specific WikiFur projects in 2007. New languages were launched on the wikifur.com domain from mid-2008, hosted on a server provided by [[Timduru]], and the other languages joined them over Summer 2009.<ref>[[WikiFur:Moving hosts]]</ref><ref>{{newslink|WikiFur moves languages to new server}}</ref><ref>
{{newslink|English WikiFur moved to en.wikifur.com}}</ref>

== Interesting facts ==

* What was the first content page? [[Evil Sibe]]! (initially as '''Sibe'''); [[Uncle Kage]] followed three hours later.
** [[File:Censor_panda_nyr_button.png|right|Nyra button]] The first ''non''-content page was the [[WikiFur:About|about page]] ([{{fullurl:WikiFur:About|oldid=2}} initial version]), while the first image was the [[:file:Censor_panda_nyr_button.png|Nyra button]] from [[Mab]]'s [[Censorship Pandas]]. The very first edit was a reduction of [{{fullurl:MediaWiki:Lastmodifiedby|oldid=1}} MediaWiki:Lastmodifiedby].
* WikiFur was not the first time the concept of a wiki for the furry community was raised - one was [http://groups.google.com/group/alt.lifestyle.furry/browse_frm/thread/41d3c0b95e66c60f/d8b09a18e03b8ce8 suggested] by [[David Cooke]] in 2001 on [[alt.lifestyle.furry]]

== Awards and recommendations ==

WikiFur has been in the ''Recommended Anthropomorphics List'' published by the [[Ursa Major Awards]] every year since 2006 (listed under "Recommended Anthropomorphic Miscellany"). It was nominated for ''Best Website'' in the 2011 Awards,<ref>''[http://www.flayrah.com/3933/2011-ursa-major-awards-voting-now-open 2011 Ursa Major Awards voting now open]'' - [[Fred Patten]], Flayrah (16 March 2012)</ref> coming second to [[Wikipedia:Equestria Daily|Equestria Daily]].

"Somewhere else in this thread somebody posted a link to the furry wiki. As of so far, this is the only even handed thing I have seen posted here regarding Starfinder as it reports the allegations, doesn't claim them as truth and provides information on what to do. How hard is that?"<ref name="Starfinder_Beware" /> -- [[Darkwolven]] comparing WikiFur to [[artists_beware]]

"WikiFur was definitely useful, I would have spent months gathering information without it. Feh on that! I was also glad to see that it seemed to maintain a rather evenhanded point of view overall; considering how factionalized FF can be that can be difficult. One man's fair is another man's controversy..."<ref name="barona" /> -- [[Chris F. Grant]]

== Quotes about WikiFur ==

* ''I first cringed at the thought of a furry Wikipedia roaming on the net. I figured it to be a rather one-sided "don't talk about the bad, only use it as a propaganda site to make furries look good" website. What I found it to be instead was a rather well done unbiased encyclopedia on the fandom.'' -- [[nothingkat]]
*''I had no idea that furry culture was this big! Wow, this is really a nice community. :3'' -- [[User:The LP|The LP]]
*''Wikifur is definitely one of the fix-stars on the furry sky ;)'' -- [[User:Toumal|Toumal]]
*''It's a field crowded with high-quality entries, but WikiFur's emergence and growth after a smear campaign makes it uniquely qualified to receive attention, methinks.''<ref name="Wikia feature" /> -- [[Tom Howling]] voting for WikiFur as a Featured Wikicity
* ''For the furry, by the furry, about furry ? It is the best motto that I have ever heard. :)'' -- [[Alphawolf Kiba]]

== Related terms ==

* The term 'Wikifur' (sometimes inter-capped as WikiFur, also [[:Category:Wikifurries|Wikifurry]]/WikiFurry) is also used to describe a frequent contributor of WikiFur, much like 'Wikipedian' is used to describe a frequent contributor of Wikipedia
* A WikiFur [[:Category:People|page about a person]] is sometimes (incorrectly) referred to as "a wiki" or "my wiki", in the same way, that people refer to "my LiveJournal" or "my MySpace"; this usage is not endorsed by regular editors

== References ==
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== See also ==
* [[:Category:WikiFur-specific news|WikiFur-specific news]] (obsolete; see LiveJournal)

== External links ==
* [http://wikifur.livejournal.com/ WikiFur LiveJournal community]
* [//dumps.wikifur.com/ WikiFur database dumps] and [//dumps.wikifur.com/aarddict/ offline browsing files]

=== Statistics ===
* [[stats:|WikiFur statistics]]
* [[Special:Statistics|Local wiki statistics]] ('''note:''' page views and user count inaccurate)
* [https://www.google.com/analytics/home/report?rid=52980 Google Analytics reports] ([https://www.google.com/accounts/NewAccount Google account] and [[User talk:GreenReaper|prior authorization]] required)

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Mascot

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A '''mascot''' is a [[character]] who is considered to be symbolic of a school, sports team, or other group. Traditionally, a mascot was believed to bring good luck to the team or group it represents.

A person dressed in a costume of the mascot character may often appear at key events for the group whom he represents. If the mascot is an animal, the costume is essentially a [[fursuit]]. The existence and visibility of such mascots has played a role in sparking an interest in fursuiting for many [[furry fans]]. Some have actually had the opportunity to be a mascot, while many others wish they could have had the chance.

It is also common for a group or organization, often online, to designate a mascot, a logo or figurehead character meant to be symbolic of that group. Some examples:
*[[Anima (mascot)|Anima]], created by [[Ken Sample]], is mascot for a chapter of the [[Cartoon/Fantasy Organization]];
*[[Rankin (character)|Rankin]], created by [[Donotsue]], is the mascot of [[Crush! Yiff! Destroy!]];
*[[Eric W. Schwartz]]'s character [[Amy the Squirrel]] became a mascot of sorts among the Amiga community.

==See also==
* [[Wikipedia:Mascot|Mascot]] on Wikipedia
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Omaha The Cat Dancer

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[[Image:Omaha The Cat Dancer 1.jpg|200px|thumb|''Omaha the Cat Dancer'' #1, featuring the principal characters, Charles Tabey Jr. aka Chuck Katt and Omaha.]]

'''''"Omaha" the Cat Dancer''''' is an erotic comic strip created by artist [[Reed Waller]] and writer [[Kate Worley]]. Set in the fictional Mipple City, Minnesota in a universe populated by [[anthropomorphic]] [[funny animal]] characters, the strip is a soap opera which focuses on Omaha, a feline exotic dancer, and her lover, Chuck, the son of a powerful business tycoon.

The strip debuted in the funny animal magazine ''[[Vootie]]'', and a number of [[wikipedia:underground comix|underground comix]] in the late 1970s and early 1980s. ''"Omaha" the Cat Dancer'' became the subject of the eponymous comic book series, which was published from 1984 until 1993 through [[wikipedia:Kitchen Sink Press|Kitchen Sink Press]]; it was relaunched by [[Fantagraphics Books]] until 1995. The final chapters of the strip's storyline were published in ''Sizzle'' magazine, beginning in 2006.

''"Omaha" the Cat Dancer'' was the first of several comic books published in the early 1980s which integrated explicit sex into their storylines, rather than utilizing sex for shock value. The comic was the subject of a number of obscenity controversies, and was nominated for multiple [[wikipedia:Eisner Award|Eisner Award]]s in 1989 and 1991.

==Overview==
''"Omaha" the Cat Dancer'' was created and drawn by [[Reed Waller]] and predominantly written by [[Kate Worley]]. It takes place in the fictional Mipple City, Minnesota. The comic's universe is populated by anthropomorphic funny animal characters.<ref name="Heard">{{cite web |last=Heard |first=Alex |title=Comic Strippers |publisher=Entertainment Weekly |url=http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,317635,00.html |year=June 22, 1990 |accessdate=4 June 2010}}</ref> The story began as a satire of local blue laws, before evolving into a comic book soap opera.<ref name="Heard"/><ref name="Waller">{{cite book |last=Waller |first=Reed |title=The Collected "Omaha" the Cat Dancer |date=1995 |orig-date=Originally published October 1987 |publisher=Fantagraphics Books |isbn=9781560971610 |chapter=Introduction to 'Omaha'}}</ref>

It was one of the first major furry series to use an existing non-furry genre called "slice of life", in which the furry nature of the characters is mostly a cosmetic artistic style for realistic stories anchored in contemporary human society. The furry nature is usually restricted to animals' heads, [[fur]] colour, and [[tail]]s. The environment is indistinguishable from the real world, and all characters have [[human]]oid body shapes and wear regular [[clothing]] (but [[Free paws|no shoes]]).

It was highly praised for its writing, especially for its confident [[wikipedia:feminist|feminist]] sensibility. However, unlike the stereotyped stance, the series refused to flatly condemn erotic entertainment with the lead character usually enjoying her work and preferring it to other careers. For example, when she was once working in a clerical setting, she felt humiliated and belittled with the sexist management enough to quit in defiance and then immediately successfully auditioned at the local strip club.

==Characters==
{{main|List of characters in Omaha The Cat Dancer}}

==History==
In 1976, [[Reed Waller]] founded ''Vootie'', a [[fanzine]] intended to promote [[funny animal]] comics.<ref name="Waller"/> Waller began developing the concept for ''"Omaha" the Cat Dancer'' after [[Taral Wayne]], who contributed to the magazine, said that there wasn't enough sex in the genre.<ref name="Waller"/> Inspired by [[wikipedia:Robert Crumb|Robert Crumb]]'s ''[[Fritz the Cat]]'',<ref name="Skinn">{{cite book |last=Skinn |first=Dez |title=Comix: The Underground Revolution |date=2004 |publisher=Thunder's Mouth Press |page=71 |chapter=Can't Get Enuff |isbn=1560255722}}</ref> Waller began looking for a theme for his new comic. He visited local strip clubs in St. Paul with his sketchbook, and read newspaper articles about attempts to shut the bars down. Another contributor to the magazine, Jim Schumeister, proposed a comic called ''Charlie's Bimbos'', in which "a bevy of strippers champion liberty in the face of Puritan oppression". This proposal sparked the idea for ''Omaha''.<ref name="Waller"/>

After two chapters had been completed, Waller was unable to continue with the story. The third chapter was completed with help from [[Kate Worley]], who continued to write the series thereafter.<ref name="Waller"/> In August 1988, Worley was injured in a car accident; the series' frequency slowed as a result of her recovery process.<ref name="Omaha-History">{{cite web |url=http://www.omahathecatdancer.com/omaha_history.htm |title=History of Omaha the Cat Dancer |publisher=CatDancer Corporation |accessdate=4 June 2010}}</ref> In November 1991, Waller was diagnosed with colon cancer; two issues of ''Images of "Omaha"'' were published in 1992 to pay for Waller's medical expenses, featuring art and writing by several major comic creators.<ref name="Omaha-History"/> In 1995, Waller and Worley ceased production of the series.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.omahathecatdancer.com/reed_waller.htm |title=Biography of Reed Waller |publisher=CatDancer Corporation |accessdate=4 June 2010}}</ref> In 2002, Waller and Worley agreed to complete the story; Worley was diagnosed with lung cancer, and began chemotherapy and radiation treatments in that year.<ref name="Omaha-History"/> On June 6, 2004, Worley died before completing the story; her husband, James Vance began to edit and complete the final chapters.<ref name="Omaha-History"/>

==Plot summary==
:''This section may be incomplete or out of date.''
Susan "Susie" Jensen is an aspiring model from the [[wikipedia:Midwestern United States|Midwest]] and new in the town of Mipple City, Minnesota. The story starts out as Susie uses her modeling to begin working at the strip club "Kitty Korner Klub" with her newfound friend Shelly Hine, where she now goes by the stage name of "Omaha".<ref>"Why they call her Omaha" (short story).</ref> Omaha starts to become well known after she is featured for the first time in ''Pet Magazine,'' an adult entertainment magazine as the centerfold "Kitten of the Month".<ref>{{cite book |last=Waller |first=Reed |last2=Worley |first2=Kate |title=The Collected "Omaha" the Cat Dancer |orig-date=Originally published October 1987 |date=1995 |publisher=Fantagraphics Books |isbn=9781560971610 |pages=9-13 |chapter=Prologue: 'Kitten of the Month'}}</ref>

After working as a locally popular dancer, she and Shelly meet Chuck Katt, an artist who begins to fall in love with Omaha and whom she considers "normal".<ref>{{cite book |last=Waller |first=Reed |last2=Worley |first2=Kate |title=The Collected "Omaha" the Cat Dancer |orig-date=Originally published October 1987 |date=1995 |publisher=Fantagraphics Books |isbn=9781560971610 |pages=19-23 |chapter=Prologue: 'Chuck and Omaha'}}</ref> After a new blue law is passed, "all strip clubs are to be closed down", Omaha and Shelly are put out of work. Shelly soon finds a hidden sub-basement at a restaurant that is owned by a man named Charles Tabey, a powerful, yet mentally ill business tycoon, whom Shelly is his lover in secret. With Omaha out of work, Chuck Katt starts working for his former boss, Andre DeRoc, a media mogul in the town and the arch-rival of Charles Tabey. He is also re-acquainted his old girlfriend, JoAnne Follett who is the personal secretary of Andre DeRoc. Charles Tabey, the wealthy and influential businessman, falls in love with Omaha as a dancer, and arranges for her to dance at the grand opening of a new secret strip club. Charles, who has control over the local police, is able to open the club which is meant exclusively for the most powerful of the city. However, DeRoc sabotages the opening night by placing a chemical in the liquor turning the crowd into a sexually violent mob aimed at Omaha. All three rush to escape through the back door. Upon exiting, a hitman hired to kill Charles Tabey mistakes Chuck Katt for him and accidentally shoots Shelly Hine. She then tells the two to find JoAnne Follett.

The couple soon go to find JoAnne and are almost killed on the way there by the man aiming for Charles. Instead they walk in on JoAnne having sex with Charles Tabey. Chuck then reluctantly reveals to Omaha that his real name is Charles Tabey, Jr. and that he is Charles' son.<ref>{{cite book |last=Waller |first=Reed |last2=Worley |first2=Kate |title=The Collected "Omaha" the Cat Dancer |orig-date=Originally published October 1987 |date=1995 |publisher=Fantagraphics Books |isbn=9781560971610 |pages=25-66 |chapter=Chapter I}}</ref> After everything that has happened, the two return to their car and drive off to San Francisco.<ref>{{cite book |last=Waller |first=Reed |last2=Worley |first2=Kate |title=The Collected "Omaha" the Cat Dancer |orig-date=Originally published October 1987 |date=1995 |publisher=Fantagraphics Books |isbn=9781560971610 |pages=67-71 |chapter=Chapter I}}</ref> On the way to the city, their car breaks down. The two are then picked up by a man and woman, who claim to run a modeling agency in San Francisco and promise work for Omaha. She and Chuck, feeling relieved, settle in a penthouse apartment belonging to the seemingly kind pair.

While Chuck is out running errands, the real owner returns. It is revealed to be JoAnne Follett. She explains that she has quit working for Andre DeRoc and now works for Charles Tabey. She brings them money from Charles so Chuck and Omaha can hide out for as long as they need to. After Chuck comes back, the three go out shopping and drinking later that night. Afterwards, at the apartment, JoAnne and Omaha begin to sexually experiment with each other while Chuck is passed out drunk. Upon Chuck's waking, the experimentation turns into an all out threesome between the pair and JoAnne. After Omaha and Chuck fall asleep leaving JoAnne alone, she is surprised by the man who claimed to run a modeling agency, but is in fact working for DeRoc. He nearly throws JoAnne off the balcony, but Omaha wakes up in time and knocks him out with a liquor bottle. He escapes, the two then go to bed together leaving Chuck to sleep on the living room floor.<ref>{{cite book |last=Waller |first=Reed |last2=Worley |first2=Kate |title=The Collected "Omaha" the Cat Dancer |orig-date=Originally published October 1987 |date=1995 |publisher=Fantagraphics Books |isbn=9781560971610 |pages=73-97 |chapter=Chapter II}}</ref>

After the threesome with '''Chuck and Joanne, Omaha''' has a nightmare about '''Shelley'''. Waking up and finding Joanne in bed with her, the shock and brandy from the night before makes her ill. So she decides to write a note and takes a walk. Chuck wakes to a closing door, looking for Omaha. But finding Joanne instead, the two make coffee and fetch aspirin. After wandering into [[wikipedia:Chinatown, San Francisco, California|Chinatown]], Omaha is enticed into a restaurant for lunch. While she is studying the menu a young Chinese man makes a call to Mipple City. Omaha finds a large chauffeur who forces her outside to a car belonging to '''Charles Tabey Sr''', who takes her to a private estate near [[wikipedia:San Pedro, Los Angeles, California|San Pedro]], whare she meets '''Pamela''', '''Charles Tabey Sr's''' personal assistant. Back in San Francisco, '''Chuck and Joanne''' hear a messenger, with a note saying that Charlie has taken Omaha for her own protection, Chuck is now angry at his father's meddling, but Joanne agrees with Charlie's good intentions. Chuck refuses to believe in his father's good intentions, Joanne loses patience with him, Chuck apologizes to her and the two wind up in bed. At the private estate of '''Charles Tabey Sr''' all three have dinner. Later Pamela shows Omaha a special workout studio, so she can stay in shape for the re-opening of the Underground. Horrified she runs back to her room and cries herself to sleep. Later she is awakened by a storm, she undresses for bed fantasizing about Chuck and masturbating. She hears a noise and finds Charles in the room. Terrified, she refuses to listen as he grabs her and drags her showing her the real reason for the abduction "'''Shelley''' is alive".<ref>{{cite book |last=Waller |first=Reed |last2=Worley |first2=Kate |title=The Collected "Omaha" the Cat Dancer |orig-date=Originally published October 1987 |date=1995 |publisher=Fantagraphics Books |isbn=9781560971610 |pages=99-128 |chapter=Chapter III}}</ref>

Kurt Huddle tells Jerry (an old friend of Shelley) that she is now in a wheelchair and how he came to work for Charles Tabey, Sr. Back in San Francisco '''JoAnne and Chuck''' go shopping and meet '''Rob Shaw''', a gay photographer for pictures for his portfolio. Later she runs an ad in the classifieds. Back at '''Charles Tabey Sr's''' private estate Omaha meets Jerry for a second time and all five sit down for lunchtime.<ref>{{cite book |last=Waller |first=Reed |last2=Worley |first2=Kate |title=The Collected "Omaha" the Cat Dancer |volume=2 |date=1988-01 |publisher=Kitchen Sink Press |isbn=0878160493}}</ref>

==Publication history==
The character debuted in ''The Adventures of Omaha'', which was published in ''Vootie'' in 1978.<ref name="Waller"/><ref name="Omaha-History"/> The first chapter of ''"Omaha" the Cat Dancer'' was published by Kitchen Sink Press in ''Bizarre Sex'' #9 in 1981.<ref name="Waller"/> A five page untitled story appeared in ''Bizarre Sex'' #10 in 1982, as a followup to the first chapter.<ref name="Waller"/><ref name="Omaha-History"/> In 1983, a one-page parody strip starring Omaha, titled "Hotsizz Twonkies", was published in ''E-Man'' #5 by First Comics.<ref name="Omaha-History"/> Another five page untitled story, identified as "Shelly and Omaha" in ''The Collected Omaha Volume 1'', appeared in ''Dope Comix'' #5; it was reprinted in ''Bizarre Sex Series'' #5.<ref name="Omaha-History"/> In 1991, the ''Omaha'' story "A Strip in Time" appeared in ''Munden's Bar Annual'' #2, published by First Comics.<ref name="Omaha-History"/>

In 1984, SteelDragon Press published the first issue of ''"Omaha" the Cat Dancer'', which featured the second chapter of the story.<ref name="Waller"/><ref name="Omaha-History"/> The series lasted 19 issues before being cancelled in 1993.<ref name="Skinn"/> Fantagraphics Books later relaunched the series, but it only lasted four issues, the last published in 1995.<ref name="Skinn"/><ref name="Omaha-History"/> In 1994, Rob, a supporting character from the series, appeared in ''Gay Comics'' #22.<ref name="Omaha-History"/> The final chapters of the story were serialized in ''Sizzle'', beginning in 2006.<ref name="Omaha-History"/>

From 1987 until 1998, Kitchen Sink, and later Fantagraphics, published six volumes of the ''Omaha'' strips under the title ''The Collected "Omaha" the Cat Dancer''.<ref name="Omaha-History"/><ref>{{cite book |last=Waller |first=Reed |last2=Worley |first2=Kate |title=The Collected "Omaha" the Cat Dancer |date=1995 |publisher=Fantagraphics Books |isbn=9781560971610 }}</ref> From 2005 to 2008, NBM Publishing imprint Amerotica published seven volumes of strips under the title ''The Complete Omaha the Cat Dancer''.<ref>{{cite book |last=Waller |first=Reed |last2=Worley |first2=Kate |title=The Complete Omaha the Cat Dancer |volume=1 |date=2005-10 |publisher=Amerotica |isbn=1561634514 }}</ref><ref>{{cite book |last=Waller |first=Reed |last2=Worley |first2=Kate |title=The Complete Omaha the Cat Dancer |volume=2 |date=2006-01 |publisher=Amerotica |isbn=1561634573 }}</ref><ref>{{cite book |last=Waller |first=Reed |last2=Worley |first2=Kate |title=The Complete Omaha the Cat Dancer |volume=3 |date=2006-04 |publisher=Amerotica |isbn=1561634743 }}</ref><ref>{{cite book |last=Waller |first=Reed |last2=Worley |first2=Kate |title=The Complete Omaha the Cat Dancer |volume=4 |date=2006-07 |publisher=Amerotica |isbn=1561634786 }}</ref><ref>{{cite book |last=Waller |first=Reed |last2=Worley |first2=Kate |title=The Complete Omaha the Cat Dancer |volume=5 |date=2006-10 |publisher=Amerotica |isbn=1561634905 }}</ref><ref>{{cite book |last=Waller |first=Reed |last2=Worley |first2=Kate |title=The Complete Omaha the Cat Dancer |volume=6 |date=2007-04-05 |publisher=Amerotica |isbn=1561635057 }}</ref><ref>{{cite book |last=Waller |first=Reed |last2=Worley |first2=Kate |title=The Complete Omaha the Cat Dancer |volume=7 |date=2008-03 |publisher=Amerotica |isbn=1561635278 }}</ref>

==Cultural impact==
''"Omaha" the Cat Dancer'' was the first of several comic books in the early 1980s which integrated sex into their storylines, rather than utilizing sexual explicitness for shock value.<ref name="Skinn"/><ref name="Sabin-177">{{cite book |last=Sabin |first=Roger |title=Comics, Comix & Graphic Novels: A History Of Comic Art |date=1996 |publisher=Phaidon Press |location=London, United Kingdom |isbn=0714830089 |pages=177–78; 182; 188; 200; 208–209 |chapter=Alternative Visions }}</ref> In 1988, Friendly Frank's, a comic book store in suburban Chicago, was fined $750 for selling "obscene" material, including ''"Omaha" the Cat Dancer''; as a result of the obscenity controversy, the Comic Book Legal Defense Fund was formed.<ref name="Omaha-History"/><ref>"Comics". ''[[w:Spin (magazine)|Spin]]''. Volume 4, issue 5, page 50.</ref> In 1990, issues of ''"Omaha" the Cat Dancer'' were seized by New Zealand authorities; the country's Obscene Publications Tribunal declared that the series was not indecent.<ref name="Omaha-History"/> In the same year, police in Toronto seized issues of the comic, claiming that it depicted [[wikipedia:Zoophilia|bestiality]].<ref name="Omaha-History"/>

In ''Graphic Novels: A Bibliographic Guide to Book-Length Comics'', D. Aviva Rothschild praised the series, writing "the plot is always strong, and the characters are always three-dimensional and appealing."<ref name="Rothschild">{{cite book |last=Rothschild |first=D. Aviva |title=Graphic Novels: A Bibliographic Guide to Book-Length Comics |date=1995 |publisher=Libraries Unlimited |isbn=1563080869 |pages=110-111 |chapter=Funny Animals }}</ref> ''Entertainment Weekly'' writer Alex Heard panned the comic, writing that "The story moves very slowly [...] one can readily agree with the disgruntled fan who wrote, 'My God! Where did you dredge up those horrid characters?'"<ref name="Heard"/>

In 1992, Kitchen Sink published two volumes of ''Images of "Omaha"'' as a benefit to pay for the treatment of Waller's bowel cancer. The volumes featured contributions by major comic book artists, such as [[wikipedia:Dave Sim|Dave Sim]], [[wikipedia:Alan Moore|Alan Moore]] and [[wikipedia:Frank Miller (comics)|Frank Miller]].<ref name="Rothschild"/> [[wikipedia:Trina Robbins|Trina Robbins]], [[wikipedia:James Vance (comics)|James Vance]] and [[wikipedia:Neil Gaiman|Neil Gaiman]] have provided introductions to collected editions of the series.<ref name="Rothschild"/> The influence of ''"Omaha" the Cat Dancer'' is noted in the furry comic book scene, with ''[[Shanda the Panda]]'' being the most successful series to emulate ''Omaha'' in many respects. ''"Omaha" the Cat Dancer'' was nominated for [[wikipedia:Eisner Award|Eisner Award]]s for Best Continuing Series, Best Black-and-White Series, and Best Writer/Artist in 1989; in 1991, the series received Eisner Awards for Best Black and White Series and Best Writer.<ref name="Omaha-History"/>

==References==
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==External links==
*[http://www.omahathecatdancer.com/ Omaha The Cat Dancer official website]
*[http://rwaller.blogspot.com/ Reed Waller's Official Blog]
*[http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cat-Dancing-with-OMAHA/ Yahoo! Groups, Cat Dancing with Omaha]
*[http://www.hootisland.com/reviews/comics/waller_omaha.html Hoot Reviews, Omaha The Cat Dancer]
*[http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/allender/omahacat.htm "Omaha" The Cat Dancer Collectible Cards List]
*[http://animefeet.wikia.com/Omaha Footwork Encyclopedia article]

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YouTube

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'''YouTube''' is a [[W:Video sharing|video sharing]] internet company which allows users to view, upload, and share net-ready [[W:Video clip|video clips]]. A subsidiary of [[Google]], YouTube's extensive media content includes [[W:Movie|movie]], [[W:television program|TV]] clips, [[W:Music videos|music videos]] and [[W:Viral videos|viral videos]], as well as amateur content such as [[W:videoblogging|videoblogging]], [[W:Video podcast|Video podcasts]], and short original videos and [[animation]]s.

Videos can be rated, and the average rating and the number of times a video has been watched are both publicly displayed.

== YouTube and furry ==

YouTube holds a significant place in the [[furry fandom]]. There are thousands of [[furry]] videos, clips (including those from the [[Funday Pawpet Show]]), animations, [[artwork]] slide shows, films, and television programs on it. The fact that it is easy to upload and share videos makes YouTube a very valuable resource to [[furries]]. There were also groups on YouTube at one point dedicated to the fandom, but have long since been removed.{{clarify}}{{cn}}

=== Furry YouTubers ===

In addition to various furry related videoclips and such, there has been a growing trend of furries starting their own channels and making content for others. Furry YouTubers such as [[Majira Strawberry]] have contributed to the recent growth of the furry fandom through YouTube.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-VaDw9xUCg Documentary about Furry YouTube] Retrieved April 15, 2019.</ref> Most furry YouTubers often give out advice about the fandom, do random skits, and livestreams as well.

==References==
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== See Also ==

* [[YouTube Furry War]]
* [[:Category:YouTubers|YouTubers]]
* [[W:YouTube|YouTube]] on [[Wikipedia]]

==External Link==

*[http://www.youtube.com YouTube's] official website

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Furry art

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'''Furry art''' is a term used to describe [[art|artwork]] depicting [[anthropomorphic]] ([[Human|humanoid]] or [[feral]]) [[animal]], [[character]]s, [[fursona]]s, [[avatar]]s or personas. Usually created with [[furry fandom]] as the main audience, some works are intended for a larger, more mainstream audience.

A person who creates furry art is called a ''[[furry artist]]''.

== Anthro art ==

Anthro art is a variation of the term used by various [[artist]]s, which prefer an alternative defining term which does not include, or relate, to the term [[furry]] for various reasons (choice, perception of its negative connotation, etc). "Anthro" is sometimes used to denote bipedal characters, as opposed to terms like "[[feral]]" or "[[zoomorphic]]" for quadrupedal characters.{{fact}}

== Defining traits ==

The most basic and pervasive idiom of furry art is the depiction of [[humanoid]] figures with animal traits: heads, [[tail]]s, ears, fur, and so on. This isn't always the case: furry artwork can include completely non-humanoid animals whose only anthropomorphic traits might be their facial expressions, dialogue, range of emotions acted out, to the completely opposite end of the spectrum in completely human characters with animal ears and tails attached to them, as is popular in [[anime]] [[fanart]]. Another popular theme in furry art is in the [[transformation]] of people to animals and vice versa, as in [[werewolves]] or other mythical creatures, or in [[science fiction]] devices, such as the use of [[genetic engineering]].

== Origins ==
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The most{{who}} commonly accepted theory{{fact}} as to the origination of furry art is that it has its roots in the indie [[comic]]s and science fiction/fantasy fan culture of the 1980s.{{clarify}}{{fact}}

Due to heavy censorship of the comic book industry by the [[W:Comics Code Authority|Comics Code Authority]] in the 1960s and 70s, there was a huge boom in underground comics, and it was during this time that [[W:Robert Crumb|Robert Crumb]] began creating the seminal ''[[Fritz the Cat]]'' comics, in which an anthropomorphic feline con artist goes on wild adventures that involve a variety of sexual escapades. The comic would later be made into a [[Fritz the Cat (film)|film]] by maverick [[W:Animation|animation]] director [[Wikipedia:Ralph_Bakshi|Ralph Bakshi]]. ''Fritz the Cat'' came at a time when animation was universally considered to be a children's medium, and was met with considerable acclaim and box office success for a non-mainstream film.

The underground comics culture gave rise to a wave of independent black and white comics in the 1980s. It was during this time that many of the first [[proto-furry]] comics and [[APA]]zines began to appear. [[Steve Gallacci]]'s [[Albedo]], Eastman and Laird's [[Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles]], [[Stan Sakai]]'s [[Usagi Yojimbo]], and [[Reed Waller]]'s [[Omaha the Cat Dancer]] were among them, many of them now considered to be cornerstones of what was still becoming the furry fandom.

Many of the most prominent furry artists of the 1990s, such as [[Terrie Smith]], [[Daphne Lage]], and [[Tygger Graf]], and even contemporary fan favorite [[Marci McAdam]] all point to [[Wikipedia:Wendy and Richard Pini|Wendy and Richard Pini]]'s popular ''[[Elfquest]]'' series of fantasy comics as a major source of stylistic influence. Though ''Elfquest'' doesn't feature what would normally be considered furry characters, it shares, and is possibly responsible for introducing many ideas popular in furry art and fiction: protagonists who are close to nature and are able to communicate with animals (some of them actually possess [[wolf]] blood), an enormous emphasis on empathy and sentimentality, names such as "Petalwing," "Clearbrook," or "Moonshade" that combine two nature- or color-oriented words into one, the use of human beings as antagonistic characters, and a predilection for mystical, nativist imagery.

Even today, popular fantasy fiction and children's cartoons continue to influence trends in furry art. Witness the enormous popularity of [[Brian Jacques]]' [[Redwall (series)|Redwall series]] of novels, [[Disney]]'s 1994 blockbuster feature ''[[The Lion King]]'', Rare Software's [[Star Fox]] series of [[videogame]]s, or [[Wikipedia:Rumiko Takahashi|Rumiko Takahashi]]'s [[Anime]]/[[Manga]] series [[Wikipedia:Inuyasha|Inuyasha]] among today's furry fan artists.

=== Furry vs Humanoid art ===
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The definition of what should and should not be considered furry is a subject of ongoing controversy.{{fact}} Some individuals favor a definition that includes any and all media that relates to the anthropomorphism of animals, stretching from prehistoric cave paintings to representations of [[Egyptian mythology|Egyptian gods]] to contemporary [[Warner Brothers]] cartoons, to the most lewd and graphic images that can be found on the [[VCL]] can and should all be classified as furry art. Others favor a more exclusive definition, arguing that only those images and media created by individuals who operate within the social boundaries of the furry fandom and whose output is distributed primarily inside of the fandom's channels should be considered to be furry art; and while extracurricular media might be enjoyed by furry fans, it is not furry in and of itself.

The major criticisms of the inclusive definition of furry art are that it is an attempt to justify and elevate fan-oriented output to be equivalent to what is created outside of the fandom (this opinion is predicated of course on the belief that furry art does not qualify for the same level of distinction), and that it trivializes the historical artwork and more mainstream media by the association. Opponents of the exclusive definition argue that it is only used by aggressors and [[troll]]s to diminish and confine furry artwork that might be appropriate for a larger audience and that nobody can know for certain what audience an artist intended his creations for.

Many artists who have been known to attend furry conventions, [[roleplay]] as anthropomorphic animals, and represent themselves as such in art are uncomfortable with the "furry" label for various reasons. Instead they prefer to classify their artwork as '[[Anthropomorphic|anthro]],' '[[were]],' or any number of other terms that all mean roughly the same thing but lack whatever negative connotations or baggage they feel might be attached to furry art that they were trying to avoid.

It should also be noted that there is a significant portion of people who feel that the distinction is not that important, and that to engage in the argument is a waste of time that might be better spent creating, enjoying, or making fun of the art in question.

== Where to find furry art ==
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A more appropriate question to ask might be where ''can't'' you find furry art. A Google image search for nearly any kind of animal will usually yield furry art featuring that animal within the first page or two. However, the enterprising fan might have more success finding furry art at any one of the many galleries dedicated to hosting it:

* [[TransFur]]
* The [[VCL]]
* [[Yerf]]
* [[ArtSpots]]
* [[Furry Art Pile]]
* The [[Orlando Furry Archives]]
* [[YNA]]
* [[Fur Affinity]]
* [[ArtVark]]
* [[The Lion King Fan-Art Archive]]
* [[PlayMouse]]
* [[The InflatioNation]]
* [[SoFurry]] [https://www.sofurry.com/]
* [[Inkbunny]] [https://inkbunny.net]
* More art archives: [[:Category:Art archives|all-ages]] - [[:Category:Mature art archives|mature]]

Additionally, many general-purpose or cross-genre public gallery sites host furry artwork and most of them feature specific categories for it:

* [[SheezyArt]]
* [[deviantART]]
* [[Y!Gallery]]
* [[Side 7]]
* [[GFXartist]] [http://www.gfxartist.com/]
* [[Art Wanted]] [http://www.artwanted.com/]
* [[Epilogue]] [http://www.epilogue.net/index.html]
* [[Elfwood]] [http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/elfwood.pike]

Furthermore, there are [[List of furry LiveJournal communities|a wealth of LiveJournal communities]] dedicated to the creation, discussion, and exchange of furry art.

It is a common practice for artists to create their own individual galleries, hosted on personal website portfolios.

== Creating furry art ==
[[File:DrawingInSketchbook.jpg|right|thumb|250px|A furry artist drawing in a [[sketchbook]]]]
One of the trademarks of the furry art community is its inclusivity. Anybody who wants to put a pencil to paper and draw animal people is welcome to do so and can quickly find a place in the furry art scene should they have a mind to, and many of the galleries listed above have no content restrictions, thus making them ideal for beginners to share their work.

If you are unsure of how to begin creating furry art, here is a simple step-by-step how-to:

# Get a pen or pencil and a sheet of paper. Any kind will do.
# Draw whatever it is you have in your head!
# Lather, rinse, repeat.

That's it! That's all there is to it. Don't be afraid of making mistakes, and don't be afraid of what other people might say about your artwork. Just draw, all the time. The best avenue of improvement for the any artist at any skill level is to practice, ''constantly''. Anybody can draw, and the people that are exceptionally skilled artists are so because they are drawing nonstop. Patience and diligence are all it takes!

=== Online resources and tutorials ===

There is a wealth of information useful to artists of all skill levels available at no cost on the internet, a great deal of which is specific to furry art:

* [http://www.drawfurry.com/ Draw Furry]
* [http://www.fignations.com/jelisa/tutorials/fur_and_hair.html Fur, hair, and clothing tutorials] (Dead link)
* [http://div.dyndns.org/EK/tutorial/ Katherine Dinger's photoshop tutorials and digital painting walkthroughs]
* [http://features.cgsociety.org/story_custom.php?story_id=2503& Eric Tranchefeux's Hyperrealistic Cat Project]
* [http://www.deviantart.com/view/17124835/ Jen's Fur Tutorial]

Additionally, drawing resources of a more general nature will help the artist expand his or her skills and visual repertoire.

Art technique and discussion boards for useful critical feedback:

* [http://www.wetcanvas.com/ Wetcanvas]
* [http://www.conceptart.org Conceptart.org]
* [http://www.eatpoo.com/phpBB2/index.php Eatpoo Digital Art Forums] - Not for the thin-skinned!

== Selling and buying furry art ==
:''Main article: [[Commission]]''
A significant part of the furry artist community will accept commissions for custom created artwork. Dedicated commissioning websites, like [[FurArtist]], will allow furry artists to open blocks to sell commission slots to other members who may or may not be artists themselves.

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Nonfur

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Max Black Rabbit

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[[File:Maxinemax.png|thumb|right|Max's [[fursona]]s; Max (right) and Maxine (left)]]
'''Max Black Rabbit''', also known as '''Max the Black Rabbit''' and '''Bunnyman''' (real name '''Malcolm Earle'''; born August 12),<ref>[http://maxblackrabbit.deviantart.com/ Max Black Rabbit's profile] on [[DeviantArt]]. Retrieved November 1, 2012.</ref> is a Canadian [[furry artist]] who lives in [[W:Nepean, Ontario|Nepean, Ontario]], Canada.

== Fandom involvement ==

He has worked on various comic titles such as ''[[Hit the Beach]]'', ''[[In The Zone]]'', ''[[Furrlough]]'', ''[[Extinctioners]]'', ''[[Extinctioners Annual]]'', ''[[Skunkworks Reflections]]'', ''[[Boudoir]]'', ''[[Rare Breed]]'', and the printed [[comic|comic collected prints]] of the [[webcomic]] ''[[Sabrina Online]]'', among others. He is also an [[administrator]] for the [[furry]] [[W:Paysite|paysite]] [[Fur After Dark]].

He was the [[guest of honor]] at [[Conifur Northwest 2001]], [[Feral! 2007]], [[Morphicon 2008]], and [[What The Fur 2010]]. He was reported to have been considered for the guest of honor for the now-defunct [[Bytown Furry Convention]] in 2010.

=== Fursona ===

Max's fursona is a black [[rabbit]].

As his '''Bunnyman''' alter ego, he has a crush on [[Sabrina]], the lead character on the "Sabrina Online" series, but he has been constantly euchred (outwitted?) in all his attempts to date the [[skunkette]].

He has tried just about everything, from bribing Sabrina's little sister [[Tabitha]] to introduce them, trying to woo her at a [[science fiction]] [[convention]] (and having [[R.C. Raccoon]] beat him to it, as well as having a run-in with [[Stinken]]) to finally trying to meet her face to face at her apartment, only to end up babysitting the little ones. When Max finally meets up with Sabrina he finally confesses he had a crush on her but admits he moved on and apologizes for bothering her, even though she didn't know what he was talking about.

Max also has a [[female]] [[fursona]] counterpart, [[Maxine Blackbunny]].

=== Original characters ===

Aside from his aforementioned fursonas, Max has also created several other original characters that have become well-known among the furry community.

* '''[[Zig Zag]]''': A [[skunk]]-[[tiger]] [[hybrid]], and one of Max's first and possibly most well-known original characters.
* '''[[Coil]]''': A member of [[Aaron Larsen]]'s [[anaconda]] [[species]], Coil is typically being depicted as the rival of Aaron's own anaconda character, [[Astrid (Anaconda)|Astrid]].
* '''[[Raven Hunt]]''': A blue-furred [[wolf (species)|wolf]], Raven is a teacher at the fictional [[Patriarch University]] along with characters contributed by several other artists.
* '''[[Pussy Noir]]''': A black-furred [[feline]], Pussy is a character that was created largely for Fur After Dark, though Max has posted images of her on his free sites as well.

=== Convention attendance ===

* [[Anthrocon]] - 2002, 2023
* [[Conifur Northwest]] - 2001
* [[Feral!]] - 2007
* [[Further Confusion]] - 2009, 2013
* [[Morphicon]] - 2008
* [[What The Fur]] - 2010
* [[Midwest FurFest]] - 2019

== Controversy ==

In January 2013, upon returning from [[Further Confusion 2013]], Max Black Rabbit was stopped by Canadian customs for a random check. After going through his [[sketchbook]]s, [[art|originals]], art/books by other furry artists, laptop and phone, all of it, except his phone, were confiscated under the guidelines of the [[W:Obscenity#Canada_obscenity_law|Canadian obscenity laws]], and sent away for further examination by the [[W:Canada Border Services Agency|Canada Border Services Agency]]. He was not detained and was allowed to re-enter Canadian territory.<ref>[http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/4269129/ ''And then it all went to hell.''] January 25, 2013 post by Max Black Rabbit on [[Fur Affinity]]. Retrieved January 25, 2013.</ref> On February 22, Max reported that everything had been returned to him after the agent handling his case said it didn't count under bestiality law because there weren't any actual animals.<ref>[http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/4369190/ ''Things are looking up(ish)!''] February 22, 2013 post by Max Black Rabbit on Fur Affinity. Retrieved February 22, 2013.</ref>

==References==
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== External links ==

* ''[http://www.furnation.com/black_rabbit/ Black Rabbit Productions]'' (formerly '''''The Bolt Hole''''') - Max's official website
* [http://maxblackrabbit.deviantart.com Max Black Rabbit] on [[DeviantArt]]
* [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/maxblackrabbit/ Max Black Rabbit] on [[Fur Affinity]]
* [https://www.weasyl.com/~maxblackrabbit Max Black Rabbit] on [[Weasyl]]
* [http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=4114135 Max Black Rabbit] on [[Pixiv]]
* [http://us.vclart.net/vcl/Artists/Max-Black-Rabbit/ Max Black Rabbit] on [[VCL]]
* [https://twitter.com/maxblackrabbit?lang=en Max Black Rabbit] on [[Twitter]]
* [http://maxblackrabbit.livejournal.com/ Max Black Rabbit] on [[LiveJournal]]
* [http://malcolmearlestuff.tumblr.com Malcolm Earle] on [[Tumblr]]
* [http://maxblackrabbit.tumblr.com Max Black Rabbit] on Tumblr
* [http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTNdJjYr4lVsnbc38kBBW4A Max Black Rabbit] on [[YouTube]]
* [https://ko-fi.com/maxblackrabbit Max Black Rabbit] on [[W:Ko-Fi|Ko-Fi]]

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[[File:Humans Female Male.png|right|thumb|300px|[[Female]] (left) and [[male]] (right) individuals)]]
[[File:Humans.png|right|thumb|300px|A human [[male]] and [[female]], as seen on the [[W:Pioneer 11|Pioneer 11]] [[W:Pioneer plaque|plaque]].]]
[[File:Dustmeat altarskunkspring.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Furries and humans in world. Art by [[Dustmeat]].]]
'''Humans''' (''[[W:Homo sapiens|Homo sapiens]]''), are one of the members of the family '''Hominidae''' (also known as the ''' hominids ''' and the '''great apes''') which also includes [[w:Chimpanzee|chimpanzees]], [[w:Gorilla|gorillas]] and [[w:Orangutan|orangutans]]. They are the only existent member of the genus ''[[W:Homo|Homo]]''.

Numbering somewhat more than [https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/ seven billion] beings, they are a ubiquitous species on the planet Earth. They are distinct from other [[primate]]s in that they are [[bipedal]], possess [[W:Syntax|syntactic language]], and make use of technology to modify the world around them.

==Humans and furry==
===In furry worlds===

Human beings are fairly common in stories (art, literature, film, etc) depicting [[anthropomorphic]] [[character]]s ([[furry]] media). In many, perhaps particularly in children's films, they cohabit with anthropomorphic characters and may or may not be aware of their presence or intelligence. Indeed, recognition of this--and the subsequent relationship between humans and furry elements--may be a plot point. In others, it is scarcely addressed.

Where the two are present concurrently and aware of the other, the relationship between them may be friendly or antagonistic. In some cases, there seems to be a little inherent problem; the universe of [[W:Gene Roddenberry|Gene Roddenberry]]'s ''[[Star Trek]]'' acts as a prime illustration. In others, for example, [[W:Larry Niven|Larry Niven]]'s ''[[W:Ringworld|Ringworld]]'', conflicts exist but are not bred from anything in the "difference" between man and "the other".

In others, however, the existence of this difference itself is a key motivation for antagonism, this kind of racism is called '''Fantastic Racism'''.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FantasticRacism |title=Fantastic Racism |access-date=2011-03-04 |publisher=TV Tropes}}</ref> In some instances this is presented as an analog of the USA's [[W:Civil rights movement|civil rights movement]], generally with the furry characters acting out the role of the oppressed minority. Personal relationships across species lines can be depicted as stigmatized, recalling beliefs about [[W:Miscegenation|miscegenation]].

In most stories, humans are, or are seen as, the oppressors. Humanity definitely will show characteristics of Xenophobia, a fear of different life forms,<ref>{{cite web |url= http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AbsoluteXenophobe |title=Absolute Xenophobe |access-date=2011-03-14 |publisher=TV Tropes}}</ref> to one degree or another. In these stories or scenarios, humans are highly aggressive, preferring to destroy what they do not understand, or is different from them, than to use diplomatic or other peaceful means of resolving problems. Many, if not all, humans will seek to take advantage of everything and everyone. However this does not only apply to furry stories but to most stories where there are characters who are not human, like ''[[W:District 9|District 9]]'' and [[W:James Cameron|James Cameron]]'s ''[[W:Avatar (2009 film)|Avatar]]''.<ref>{{cite web |url= http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HumansAreBastards |title=Humans Are Bastards |access-date=2011-03-14 |publisher=TV Tropes}}</ref> If a story takes the point of view of animals or relatively weak or primitive non-humans, then humans are often seen as the perpetrators, antagonists, or simply, "savages".<ref>{{cite web |url=http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HumansAreCthulhu |title=Humans Are Cthulhu |access-date=2011-03-14 |publisher=TV Tropes}}</ref>

However, some stories featuring furry and human characters have furry characters playing the role of antagonists. In ''[[W:Planet of the Apes|Planet of the Apes]]'', most of the furry characters, who are intelligent [[ape]]s, are antagonists and oppress the wild humans they capture.

When humans also have ill intent for each other or are generally just bad people, it is a sad state of living.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CrapsackWorld |title=Crapsack World |access-date=2011-03-14 |publisher=TV Tropes}}</ref> Note that in some stories where there is a species superior to humans, this species might be physically stronger, more intelligent, of purer intent, and may also be able to transform, or mutate, humans into other species, or use hypnosis or mind control, which can lead to the human targeted to lose control of their actions and logic. This can be the cause of the humans becoming the oppressors in the first place and also raise questions about how the humans could defeat or enslave the most powerful race.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FRidgeLogic |title=F Ridge Logic |access-date=2011-03-14 |publisher=TV Tropes}}</ref> However the superior race can also became a [[W:Mary Sue|Mary Sue]]topia.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MarySuetopia |title=Mary Suetopia |access-date=2011-03-14 |publisher=TV Tropes}}</ref> It seems they are not above arrogance, though they or the author usually feel the need to rub their superiority in the face of the humans or the reader.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SuperiorSpecies |title=Superior Species |access-date=2011-03-14 |publisher=TV Tropes}}</ref>

In some instances, the existence of anthropomorphic characters is credited to human beings, as in [[W:Clifford D. Simak|Clifford Simak]]'s ''[[W:City (novel)|City]]'' or a number of less well-known pieces of [[literature]]. There is a good motive for this kind of story, since humans are already inserting human [[W:DNA|DNA]] into [[animal]]s, and even making they create human organs,<ref>{{cite web |url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/1949073.stm |title=Artificial liver could be grown |access-date=2011-03-04 |publisher=BBC News}}</ref> this also includes DNA of the human brain.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://discovermagazine.com/2010/jan-feb/081 |title=Inserting Human Gene Into Mouse Brains |access-date=2011-03-04 |publisher=Discover News}}</ref> It is possible that humans will be able to create anthros in the future.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article627176.ece |title=A human trapped inside a mouse's body |access-date=2011-03-04 |publisher=The Times}}</ref> In this kind of fiction, this fact may enter into the details of the dynamic between the two, recalling to some degree the fascination of [[science fiction]] with robotics and artificial intelligence.

Of course, a number of stories lack humans entirely. Occasionally an explanation is presented for this that acknowledges the once or current existence of human beings, though more frequently the rules of the universe simply replace them outright with furry counterparts. This, as well, is a comparatively common setup in anthropomorphic literature and artwork; perhaps the dominant archetype.

===In real life===

While all members of the [[furry fandom]] simultaneously belong to the species ''Homo sapiens'', this fact in and of itself seems to be occasionally a source of conflict: outside observers may notice a current of misanthropy running through some of the fandom, manifesting itself in ways subtle and otherwise. Additionally, a small but not necessarily insignificant percentage of furries appear to repudiate their ties to the human race entirely.

Furthermore, and somewhat intriguingly, the separation between furry and non-furry mentioned in the previous section--if not truly antagonistic--may not confine itself entirely to the world of art and the imagination. Online [[role-play]]ing program [[Second Life]] supports a [[furry community]] that, according to an article in the [[W:Austin American-Statesman|Austin]] ''[http://www.austin360.com 360]'', practices a degree of self-imposed segregation between itself and "human" role-players.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.austin360.com/recreation/content/recreation/video_games/features/secondlife/secondlife_4.html |title=Welcome To Your Second Life |access-date=2010-01-08 |last=Stafford |first=Joe |date=2005-01-23 |work=austin360.com |publisher=austin 360}}</ref>

For some, there may also be a mental difference rather than an anatomical one, which, in some people's opinion, represents the difference between one sentient species and another. For them, it is a matter of mental texture in a thinking species that sets human subspecies from one another, despite the physical similarities.

==References==
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==See also==

*[[W:Human|Human]] on [[Wikipedia]]
*[[Skins]]
*[[Fleshy]]
*[[Nonfur]]
*[[Shavers]]
*[[Mundane]]
*[[Pseudofur]]

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Pig

2023-12-29T02:23:51Z

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[[File:Sabirae3.jpg|right|thumb|150px|[[Sabirae]], one of few pig characters in the fandom. Art by [[Chaotikat]].]]
A '''pig''' is any animal in the genus ''Sus'' (part of subfamily Suinae, which is part of family Suidae). The term is also used to refer to any other species of the pig family, which, as their appearance and some of their behaviors are considered by many to be unsavory, can have literal and figurative meanings. One of species it also refers to is the domestic pig (''Sus domesticus''). As a result, you see very [[List of most popular phenotypes|few pig characters]] in the [[furry fandom]].

In reality, not all pigs are fat, but because the domestic breeds are traditionally raised for meat, this is the most well-known stereotype. There are also breeds of pig kept for pets.

The Disney character [[Pumbaa]] from ''[[The Lion King]]'' is a warthog, had a pet peeve about being called a pig, insisting the more formal title of "Mister Pig".

== See also ==
*[[W:Pig|Pig]] on [[Wikipedia]]
*[[:Category:Pig characters|Pig characters]]

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Fursona

2023-12-29T02:23:03Z

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:''"Fursona" is the title of a series of [[Fursona (Pathfinder)|rule books for the ''Pathfinder'' RPG]], and there is [[Fursonas (documentary)|a documentary called "Fursonas"]].''
[[File:CharSheetFoxyFix.jpg|thumb|250px|A fursona's [[character sheet]]]]
A '''fursona''' (pl. '''fursonas''', rarely '''furson'''/'''fursonae'''{{cn}}) is a [[furspeech]] [[W:portmanteau|portmanteau]] derived from the terms [[furry]] and [[W:persona|persona]], that refers to a (normally [[furry]]) [[character]], [[persona]], [[alter ego]], [[avatar (computing)|avatar]], or [[identity]] assumed by a person or [[player]] normally associated with the [[furry fandom]].

The fursona itself consists of a name (usually fictitious) and a [[species]], as well as any distinctive colors, markings, or body features. An artist's typical [[Commission|commission]] is a rendition of a fursona.

== History ==

The origins of the fursona concept within the eventual furry fandom are difficult to pin down to specific dates, and it is not known if similar concepts of personal fictional alter-egos exist outside of the furry fandom.

What can be said is that the growing clout of roleplaying gaming (including live-action, tabletop, computer multi-player, etc.) in Western society in the 1970s and 1980s induced the adoption or self-creation of highly-stylized, often genre-specific alter-egos for RP purposes among specific audiences.

As the first large furry parties took place at large science-fiction or multi-genre speculative fiction conventions, such venues often served as meeting places for both RPers and costumers as well as artists and writers, the latter two of whom had often honed their skills in the funny animal art scene's APAs. Thus, when RPers and costumers happened upon the Art Show exhibits for "funny" animal artists, the latter were soon in demand from RPers and costumers for commissioned renditions of their RP or costume characters.

As the customers were often not writers or artists but had envisioned these characters as being more than just under their ownership, detailed specifics for such characters (see "Elements") were often provided by the customers so as to give as much narrative-independent life to such characters as possible.

As a result, when the first furry parties were held, the first costumers and RPers of what would become the furry fandom had already developed the awareness of their favorite RP or costume characters' artistically-rendered exteriors, what they acted like, and in what they were interested or disinterested.

Such characters often did not need to be written into written narratives but were instead buoyed by being a general-purpose alter-ego for the RPer or costumer. This difference from the traditional idea of the character as being driven by stories of fiction allowed for the "favorite character" or "custom-made character" to be shifted to the "alter-ego", "alternative persona" or "fursona".

== The fursona ==
[[File:CharacterModelSheet-Sono.jpg|thumb|right|[[Sono]] Eliane Anderson-Kei's character model sheet.]]
Depending on the level of personal identification the description of a fursona typically consists of the following elements:

Many fursonas are based on 'typical' animal species, such as [[cat]]s and wolves, but are often only limited by the imaginations of their player, and can include more extraordinary types of creatures such as aliens, angels, [[demon]]s, vampires, and mythological creatures (a popular offshoot of mythological creatures is to have a [[hexaped]]al, [[taur]]-based fursona). [[hybrid|Hybrid]] fursonas are also popular; furries who like characteristics of more than one animal will combine them into one creature, such as a cat/fox or wolf/raccoon cross. Some give these hybrids portmanteau names, such as "drynx" for a dragon/lynx, or "[[hedgefox]]" for a hedgehog/fox.

=== Appearance ===

A visual, kinesthetic, or textual realization of the player's mental impression of their fursona. The most common form of realization being an illustration or textual description which may be described by the term [[furry art]].

==== Attire ====

Since many fursonas have complex fur patterns or other interesting anatomical details, not all fursonas are necessarily clothed or always illustrated with clothing on. As such, there will often be several details about the appearance of a fursona; first, its physical body, and secondly, whatever clothes and accessories are worn over such a body.

===Behavior===

Depending on personal preference the behavior of a fursona can range from that of a typical [[human]] being [[zoomorphic]] only in appearance to behavior that is identical to that of the animal represented by the fursona. These general behaviors usually form a framework inside of which a player may mold their character's behavior to their liking. As fursonas are typically a [[furry]] representation of the player the fursona often inherits many of the player's character traits.

===Fursona history===

Fursonas are often used to [[roleplay]] or in other story-based mediums, and as such, often have some sort of history, whether it is merely the history of the player behind the fursona, a backstory within a world of another person's design, or a story within a world of the person's own design.

==Levels of personal identification==
[[File:AverageJoeFursona.jpg|thumb|right|An example [[fox]]-type fursona portrait. Art by [[Kitetsu]].]]
An individual may identify with a particular character in a variety of ways and with varying degrees of closeness.

===Avatar===

An [[Avatar (virtual reality)|avatar]] is typically a character created by a [[player]] as an [[Wikipedia:alias|alias]]. Typically this alias is used by the [[player]] as a trademark or symbol of their [[role playing]] identity. Hence, [[player]]s typically do not associate themselves with their avatar outside of that specific realm of experience. A single-player typically has many avatars; however, some [[player]]s may prefer one character over others.

===Personal furry===

A personal furry is a fursona that a person or [[player]] identifies with on an intimate level.

====Personal furry vs. avatar====

The description of a personal furry typically possesses all the hallmarks of a completely fictional character. This may include the physical description of a furry, the character's beliefs, moods, and temperaments, and all stories that support and expand the understanding of the furry character. Drawings of the character are very common, and personal furries are often used online to role-play with other characters, sometimes with the aid of an avatar.

While a person may play several characters and have several fursonas, the '''personal furry''' often has greater significance — it will often be a better representation of the person's "real" personality, if only because they tend to use it more often. Many individuals with a personal furry will primarily use that character to represent themselves online and within the fandom, and may actually go by that character's name as their primary nickname or handle, both on and even offline.

====Fursona as a metaphor====

A personal furry often reflects elements of their player's real-life appearance or dress, or what they would like to wear and is also referred to a lot as a Fursona. Also, there may be clues within the personal furry as to how that player sees themselves; to have a cat furry may symbolize a thirst for independence, and likewise a fox furry may symbolize perceived wit. Coat/Scale/Feather coloring may also represent the personality of a person; for example, a pink coat may represent girlish behavior.

====Relationship to other furry concepts/practices====

While a personal furry is often seen as a natural fit for [[lifestyler]]s, it's important to note that ideas such as the [[furry lifestyle]] and [[animal totemism]] are not intrinsically linked to the concept.

It is generally considered to be in bad taste for others to depict a personal furry (and to a lesser extent, any character) participating in activities such as "[[yiff]]ing" that they or their player would not normally be involved in.

== See also ==

* [[W:Fursona|Fursona]] on [[Wikipedia]]

== External links ==

=== Media ===

* [https://www.vice.com/en/article/qj87bp/lindsay-lohan-has-a-fursona-nft ''Lindsay Lohan Has a Fursona NFT''] article on [[W:Vice News|Vice]]
* [https://www.theverge.com/2021/9/30/22702478/anybody-want-to-see-lindsay-lohans-nft-fursona ''Anybody want to see Lindsay Lohan's NFT fursona?''] article on [[W:The Verge|The Verge]]
* [https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/lindsay-lohan-furry-nft-1235298/ ''Furries Realllllly Hate Lindsay Lohan's Furry NFT''] article on [[W:Rolling Stone|Rolling Stone]]
* [https://observer.com/2021/09/lindsay-lohan-nft-evangelist-is-selling-a-furry-nft-on-opensea/ ''Lindsay Lohan, NFT Evangelist, Is Selling a Furry NFT on OpenSea''] article on the [[W:The New York Observer|Observer]]
* [https://news.knowyourmeme.com/news/lindsay-lohan-is-selling-a-furry-nft-in-collaboration-with-canine-cartel ''Lindsay Lohan Is Selling A Furry NFT In Collaboration With 'Canine Cartel'''] article on [[W:Know Your Meme|Know Your Meme]]

[[Category: Furspeech terms]]

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[[eo:Felsono]]
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Fursona

2023-12-29T02:19:22Z

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fursonas are some dumb nigger bullshit crafted by niggers with tiny black peckers to roleplay as african BVLLS with imaginary BBC's because they cant handle the fact that white aryans have bigger cocks or something of that caliber yeah

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User talk:Sine

2023-12-29T02:17:58Z

Softpaw: Reverted edits by Jobe the Thremboth (talk) to last revision by AlexanderGrey

It may take me a day or three to respond, and I am unlikely to respond to what I perceive as rhetorical questions. '''Please assume I have a reason for the edits I make, and be courteous in what you write here.'''

The best place for most discussion is the talk page of the particular article or category concerned, rather than here.

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== My PAge ==
Thanks for looking my page over for compliance, appreciate it. I am curious though: why were the category links removed? I thought they put my page into the proper lists. [[User:RyconBamaisin|RyconBamaisin]] ([[User talk:RyconBamaisin|talk]]) 17:45, 14 April 2016 (EDT)
::You're welcome. Thank you for adding content to WikiFur! [[User:RyconBamaisin]] is your userpage (note the User:), not an article. The article about you is at [[Rycon Bamaisin]]. -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] ([[User talk:Sine|talk]]) 17:47, 14 April 2016 (EDT)

==Categories==
As Category Lead, your input would be welcome [http://en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=Help_talk:Furry_Book_of_Style&curid=18942&diff=468216&oldid=426514 here].--[[User:Higgs Raccoon|Higgs Raccoon]] ([[User talk:Higgs Raccoon|talk]]) 18:23, 5 June 2016 (EDT)

== [[CandyPaws]] ==

I didn’t want to revert your change without asking first, but I assume you didn’t intend to remove both categories in [https://en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=CandyPaws&diff=495011&oldid=491410 this edit] and instead change [[:Category:Fennec Fox characters]] to [[:Category:Fennec characters]] just like [https://en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=Cross_Hyparu&diff=prev&oldid=495010 the edit that directly preceded it]. —[[User:V. CA|V. CA]] ([[User talk:V. CA|talk]]) 04:29, 22 April 2018 (EDT)

User talk:Rat

2023-12-29T02:17:47Z

Softpaw: Reverted edits by Jobe the Thremboth (talk) to last revision by Spirou

:''Don't copy conversations from other pages to here. I will watch other pages if I add to their conversation.''

Hi there, Rat - welcome to WikiFur! Thanks for your contributions so far - let me know on my [[User talk:GreenReaper|user talk page]] if you need any [[help]] not already provided. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 07:28, 27 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==hey==
i have an account, just forgot to login, whoops. --[[User:Chomperz|Chomperz]] 02:04, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

== Napping Cat's Dream ==

Hi, Rat...it's definitely Psychedelic '''A'''vatar, both capitalized. (My fuzzy alter-ego happens to be #326. :) [[User:CarlFox|Carl Fox]] 01:35, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Misinformation ==

I think [[User:24.20.194.136]] is adding misinformation (all the edits about North Star Kung Fu). -- [[User:Rat|Rat]] 09:51, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Yes, it does seem to have been a little odd. Someone trying to perpetuate an in-joke, I believe. Thanks for taking action. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 17:10, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Whoops . . . ==

Sorry! We can always make a [[Rat (notthatperson)]] if you want. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 04:19, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== New tabs ==

Welcome to [[WikiFur:Administrators]]! I noticed your recent reverts, and I thought it might be best to let you deal with that sort of thing yourself, if needed. You may notice a few new tabs along the top, and some other changes around the site in relation to user blocking, rollbacks and the like. I suggest you look over [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Administrators|this page]] if you're not familiar with how to use them. Hopefully you won't need them much, but they're there for when you do. Use them wisely! :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 05:43, 25 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== "include" ==

Thanks for catching that. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 04:29, 8 Nov 2005 (UTC)

== 10k edits ==

Thanks for giving your attention to the wiki - I'd like to recommend the 'preview' button, however. -- [[User:Siege|Siege]] 15:11, 25 Nov 2005 (UTC)

== Recent vandal ==

Thanks for catching that one. In that sort of situation (multiple page blanking or simple vandalism) you can add "&bot=1" to the URL of the user's contribution page and then reload the page with that URL. This will make it so that the contributions effectively disappear on recent changes when you roll them back (unless you look for them by turning bot actions on) and the only thing that appears is the ban. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 16:38, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

In response to Rat: Yes, there wasn't much of a point to it, more of a dare and being an on the whim action. I'm sure you can guess ''why'' it was done, with his background, though I agree it was rude and I apologize. --Nytwolf

== Recent vandal ==

Thanks for helping out with that spate of vandalism. Not sure what was up with that. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 22:40, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

==Article Illustrations ==

Hello. I noticed that you requested artists to create art to add to WikiFur articles. I wish to say that if you wish, you may let me know if there are any articles you think need art, and I will be glad to draw something for them. Also, if I do happen to see any unillustrated articles, may I notify you to show whether what I add is acceptable? I am not sure of what the guidelines are for art at this time; however, so I shall need to find that out. -- {{UT|Seamora}} 10:35, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

:Here are some suggestions. This is not an exclusive list, and if you find another article where you can contribute art that meets the requirements I set out are [[User:Rat]], that is still good.
:* [[Furry art]]
:* [[Chakat]]
:* [[Fox]]
:* <strike>[[Cheetah]]</strike>

:Yes, you may use my talk page to talk about your proposals for art.

:--[[User:Rat|Rat]] 18:27, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Could you expand on "Must be released under a license acceptable to the WikiFur community."? Is "Artist approves use of this image on WikiFur" such a license, for example? I was thinking we could do with such a tag, with a number of people uploading their own art but not explicitly releasing it in some other fashion. -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 23:36, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

:That's a good question, and maybe we should have community input over what licenses are acceptable. The main thing is that since I'm collecting these images for WikiFur, is that WikiFur's permission to use them is explicit, not implicit. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 00:16, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

::Uploading them to WikiFur seems pretty explicit permission to me. <tt>;)</tt> -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 00:19, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

:::I think that a tag would be highly useful, something like <tt><nowiki>{{ArtBounty|ArticleName}}</nowiki></tt> which both put the artwork into a particular category and provide text linking to the bounty pages and the article page concerned.

:::As for the licensing, it might be a good idea to consider future applications of the images. For example, if we want to actually publish WikiFur articles in the future it makes sense to require a license that permits that, or have that be a specific term of the agreement. You could argue that this was implied in uploading the artwork, but you could also find that this didn't work out legally. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 06:42, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

:::If just uploading them is explicit permission, then getting them to express it in text form as well wouldn't hurt. And getting them to express it in text form also allows them to express conditions like whether they require to be attributed for their work, and whether their work can be used outside WikiFur. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 08:15, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

::::How does the wording on Image:Kdelany-grayfox.jpg look to you? -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 18:46, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

:::::I think it's okay. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 19:04, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::I just thought of one more thing. I'd want to make sure that the terms really are the will of the artist. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 02:48, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

:::::Absolutely. Pick a method! -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 03:42, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::She's local, so I could just ask her. Is she claiming the bounty? --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 04:33, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::::She contacted me and she is claiming the bounty. In my [[User:Rat#Rules|original rules]], Rule #1, is that the artist has to upload their own work, but I'll waive it this time to avoid silliness like the pictures getting deleted and re-uploaded. The pictures in question are:
:::::::* [[:Image:Kdelany-redfox.jpg]] for [[Red Fox]]
:::::::* [[:Image:Kdelany-grayfox.jpg]] for [[Gray Fox]]
:::::::* [[:Image:CheetahFaces.JPG]] for [[Cheetah]]
:::::::I therefore owe Katherine $30 Canadian, and she can contact me to collect her bounty.
:::::::--[[User:Rat|Rat]] 03:43, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

== Subcategories ==

As you saw, having someone into a subcategory doesn't keep them in the supercategory. I kinda assume that most forsuit makers are furusiters as well, although I guess technically this might not be the case. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 22:55, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

== Patrolled Edits ==

Since you're an admin, you can automatically mark edits that you make as patrolled. To do this, click "preferences" at the top, then under the "Editing" section, check "Mark edits I make as patrolled" --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 22:41, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
:Okay, thanks. I never noticed those "other pages" of options before - thank you for pointing that out. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 04:24, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

== Illustrations from Sugandya ==

Hello,
I just wanted to double check with you before I got started. From what I took, one could illustrate any article (save for stubs) that lacked an illustration. Is this so? For example, I picked [[Invertebrate]], [[Kemono]], [[Otherkin]], and [[Kitsune]]; none of which (at the time of this posting) have no images for themselves that are exclusive to Wikifur. I want to make sure I have it clear. :) {{unsigned|Sugandya}}
:Yes, that's correct. You could illustrate any of those.
::Hello again. I got around to producing and adding these two: [[Invertebrate]] and [[Kemono]] for now!--[[User:Sugandya|Sugandya]] 03:01, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
:::Looks good. Use the "e-mail user" or other contact to get a hold of me in private. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 03:03, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
::::I tried to email you, but that link says no adress has been specified. {{unsigned|Sugandya}}
:::::Try now. I know I've had e-mails through it before; I don't konw how it got turned off. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 03:20, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

== Illustrations from [[User:DeVandalizer|DeVandalizer]] ==
RainRat, thanks for your generous offer. I have completed several illustrations for your approval. They are on the pages: [[Fursona]], [[Furgonomics]], [[Furry art]], and [[Draconid]]. Please let me know if any of these aren't up to specification. -- [[User:DeVandalizer|DeVandalizer]] 09:20, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
:Sorry RainRat, forgot to leave my contact information. Please e-mail me at devandalizer@gmail.com -- [[User:DeVandalizer|DeVandalizer]] 09:24, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
:Those look like they meet the guidelines. I will contact you about payment. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 09:33, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
::I have recently created a few more illustrations. These are at [[Fox]] and [[Tiger]]. -- [[User:DeVandalizer|DeVandalizer]] 18:55, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
:::Noted. The transfer to my Paypal account hasn't gone through yet, but I will send it to you when it does. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 20:06, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

== Deleting redirects ==

I would like to discuss deleting redirects. As deleted articles are still saved in the database, there is no need to do it to save disk space. In most cases there's no need to delete them. Even if there's no internal pages linking to it, there are still external links and maybe people who have it bookmarked. I don't disagree with all your deleted redirects.
Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Redirects_for_deletion#When_should_we_delete_a_redirect.3F|redirect policy]] may be a start for consideration.
--[[User:Rat|Rat]] 02:32, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

:I appreciate you letting me know. Could you be more specific about what concerns you, so I have a sense of what to continue doing and what to leave alone? My main concern has been with articles moved to correct capitalization. -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 05:29, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

::Well, to pick a recent example there was [[Zassa of FurryMUCK]]. It was under that name for a long time, so one should leave a redirect so not to break external links and bookmarks. Moving articles to correct capitalization is good, but you don't have to delete the redirects from bad capitalization to good capitalization, so links aren't broken and articles are easy to find --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 05:50, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
:::I admit, I hadn't considered external links, though I always check for internal ones. As for capitalization, I should have been clearer. I specifically refer to cases where the article was a proper name (a person, usually) and not capitalized as a proper name: John doe rather than John Doe. Similarly with typos and misspellings. -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 05:59, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
::::If there's an external link to an incorrectly-capitalized page ie [http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Snagger_outlaw], the wiki does not take them to the correct page unless there's a redirect. If a misspelling is common, I would keep a redirect from the incorrect to the correct, but if it's an unlikely typo, then yeah, delete it. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 06:38, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

== Added article illustrations for bounty ==

I've added a few more article illustrations:
* [[Eagle]]
* [[Foxtaur]]
* [[Red Panda]]
* [[Serval]]
-- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 01:19, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
:Confirmed. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 01:53, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
:I just thought of something else. One of the rules is "You must own or have permission to use any distinctive characters." You do have permission to use the characters in KDelany-JustinSix.JPG and KDelany-ShaterriAtRest.JPG right? --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 02:03, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

== Extinctioners Characters ==

Hey Rat, I see you made some corrections to some of the Extinctioners Character pages, thanks, I appreciate your interest and improvements, what do you think of them by the way and do you have any suggestions? any additional character informations? please let me know what you think, thanks - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 20:37, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

:I really don't know that much about Extinctioners, having never read it. So I can't really comment on how well you covered the topic. I just corrected some obvious errors I came across. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 20:50, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

:PS. I was just [[WikiFur:Sandbox/References|experimenting]] with the references template. It may help keep extinctioners articles looking nice if you use this template. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 21:09, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

== [[RFAI]] ==

I decided to change this page as a Redirect to [[Raven Corr]] instead of deleting, so people would be sent from [[RFAI]] to the page where the information was moved to. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 22:58, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
:Sounds good. I didn't even think of setting it as a redirect. Thanks. ^^ [[User:SpazKitty|Spaz Kitty]] 23:02, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

== Vandalism ==

Hey Rat, RVDDP2501 here, Listen, thanks for the reversion on the my Sly page, just out of curiousity, what driving these people to go around and vandalize pages like this, I mean, this isn't right. I looked up other vandalisms this guy has done and I can't believe this, Myself and other Wikiusers put time and effort into making our article(s) and these guys just show up and take a Sledge Hammer to them, that just gets me riled up, let me know whats up, thanks - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 13:37, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Hey Rat, have the people responsible for the recent vandalism been banned? - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 01:40, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

:As far as I can see at the moment yes. I've been watching [[Special:Recentchanges]], and blocking as I see them. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 01:50, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

== Kendareru Neko-sama ==

Um, what kind of improvements are you looking for on the character's page? I'll try my best to bring it up to standards.
[[User:Kendareru|Kendareru Neko-sama]] 23:19, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
:I didn't add the cleanup tag; I just did some cleanup myself. My suggestion is look at some [[WikiFur:Featured_articles|featured articles]] and compare the style. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 07:37, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

== Protecting [[Furry]] ==

I see that you protected the article [[Furry]]. But I am confused by the comment in the protection log. Did you mean to unprotect the article? --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 22:46, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
:I did unprotect the article; I just left it so that unregistered users couldn't move it, so it still says tht it's protected. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 22:50, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

::Reducing protection but not removing it registers as 'protected' in the log: [http://en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=protect&user=&page=Furry]. ^_^ --[[w:User:Splarka|Splarka]] ([[w:User_talk:Splarka|talk]]) 23:59, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

:::Oh, I see. I clicked on the "unprotect" tag on that article and the log message became much clearer. Thanks for pointing that out! --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 00:05, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

==Howloween 2005 attendance==
Hi Rat, I've changed the Howloween 2005 numbers elsewhere to reflect your attendance figure. If you're certain this is correct, I'll also make sure Flint Otterhall gets the corrections for his infosheet. Thanks! --[[User:Frizzy|Frizzy]] 04:58, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
:That's the information on the howloween_admin list. Unfortunately it isn't public, so I can't cite a specific message. I can't think of anything that would explain that discrepancy.(There were 6 pre-regs that didn't show up(again according to the howloween_admin list), so that isn't it as far as I know). --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 05:41, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

== Person stubs ==

Good to see more person stubs. Thank you for creating them. A few points which would cut down on subsequent edits:
* Bolded aliases should have redirects to the article
* "Soandso is an x who lives in" reads more smoothly, and is more grammatical, than "Soandso is an x living in"
* We have [[:Category:Convention staff]]
Thanks! -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 18:08, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

== WikiFur and fair use? ==

Hey Rat, which WikiFur user(s) know most about fair use (in US) and/or fair dealing (in Canada)? (I'm hoping you know) --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 06:32, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

:I know a certain amount about fair use. Fair dealing, less so (ironic, since I come from the UK, but I didn't really have to deal with it before I came here :-). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 06:33, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

::I know some, but I'm not an expert. I'll weigh in on the topic. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 08:16, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

== Art drive submissions ==
Just wanted to let you know that I've completed some work for the art drive.
**Completed [[Image:Rat fursona.png|25px]] and used in [[Rat (species)]]
**Completed [[Image:Rabbit fursona.png|25px]] and used in [[Rabbit]]
-- [[User:JSharp|JaeSharp]] 14:06, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

== page name changes ==

Hey Rat, I just want to say thanks for the page name chages for Miki and Rokko, I appreciate it - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 16:35, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Hey Rat, sorry but there was a miscommunication between me and Shawntae, He didn't want me to use the adolescent pic of Rokko, so could you please delete - Image:Rokko WhiteEye (Adolecent) by ebonyleopard.jpg - for me, thanks and sorry - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 22:41, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

== Image filenames ==

Heya. When uploading images, could you see about giving them meaningful filenames? That is there in the uploading bumf. -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 23:24, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:Ok, I have been inconsistent with doing that. I don't see a direct way to rename already uploaded images, but I can reupload them under a new name. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 23:42, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

== RedFox Nightfox ==

I changed the information on that page because it has inaccurate information about myself. I am no longer on DeviantArt and do not wish to be associated with that website.

Please do not change it again.

Thanks.

P.S.

I am curious as to the fact that someone would even create a page about me in the first place, albeit with only a little information. quite interesting...

- [[RedFox Nightfox]] - June 1, '07 11:08 CST

== Picture deletion / cannot email? ==

Log into Wikifur for the first time in months only to find out you deleted one of my pictures (a commission done for me which I had the rights to post). I tried to email you about it but WikiFur complains that I "must be logged in and have a valid email address in my preferences", both of which are true. Sounds like a bug that needs fixing.

Please do me the courtesy of emailing me or at least triggering something that'll send me a notification before you delete something valid like this.

Please revert the article to the version before you edited it so the picture will re-appear. Thank you. {{unsigned|Tugrik}}

:Looks like you've already restored it. Remember to tag the image with what the terms of use for it are.
:If you would like to be notified when a page changes (ie. your talk page), add it to your watchlist. Go under "my preferences", and check "E-mail me when a page I'm watching is changed".
:I don't know about the user-to-user mail thing. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 07:18, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

== Objective Writeup...? ==

I'm not exactly sure how you mean by making the article about myself more... objective. You mean abstract? Or controversial? Or do you mean to have more overall objectives to cover in what I explain?

I suppose I'm just not understanding exactly what particular instances you're referring to in the writeups posted which you offered as examples.

Sometimes I just have to be shown in detail; if you want to diagram it like sentence structure, I'll probably follow easier than if you say, "check out these few profiles and do it like that." Cause I'm kinda like, "Do what like how? Am I making the article too personal and biased?"

Just let me know! Thanks! --[[User:Kit-Karamak|Kit Karamak]] 21:10, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
:Some other editors besides me have taken a more active interest in the article and you may want to talk to them. Noted examples from me:
:"He has two successful fan fictions" -Successful in what way?
:"Kit is NOT a vegan." -I don't know why it's stated so strongly.
:--[[User:Rat|Rat]] 21:28, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Ah, I see. Both examples are good ones; I appreciate it. I'll keep an eye out for things that need explaining and seem trivial so that I can tighten up the article itself. Thanks again! --[[User:Kit-Karamak|Kit Karamak]] 01:31, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

== Added two images to articles ==

I've added images to [[Jackal]] and to [[Panther]]. I believe these qualify for your art bounty, but let me know if there is something I should adjust. -- [[User:KDelany|KDelany]] 23:02, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
:Okay, looks like it meets the requirements. Just let me know if you'd like the bounty immediately or if you'd just like me to add it to my records for now. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 23:31, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
::Immediate would be great; I plan to add more images in the future, but that might not be for some time. -- [[User:KDelany|KDelany]] 02:25, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

== Hi ==

I have one.

I just didn't log in.

-[[User:Skunk]] aka [[User:64.18.124.101|64.18.124.101]] 09:49, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

== Renaming article ==

Thanks for fixing up [[TFnet]] for me. The funny thing is, I kept thinking there had to be a right way to do it what wouldn't lose the history, but when I checked the [[Help:Editing|editing help link]] it seemed to clearly indicate that redirects were used for correcting article name misspellings and capitalisation errors, so... there you have it, just a newbie pedant, for all the damage that causes. *grin* Again, I'm glad you set it up right! {{unsigned|Tracerj}}
:The neat thing is, when you use the "move" function in the software, it automatically makes a redirect from the old page to the new page. Right now though, the "move" function is restricted to admins only(sorry!), so if you need a page moved, just ask an [[WikiFur:Administrators|admin]]. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 21:53, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

== vanfurs ? ==

I was about to start an article about vanfurs LJ, but I noticed vanfurs profile page says “Name: Vancouver Furs” so I was wondering what the article name should be. --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 23:17, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
:My opinion is that the mention on [[List_of_furry_LiveJournal_communities]] is enough, but if you feel you can write something more about it go ahead. You could label it [[vanfurs]] or [[Vancouver Furs (LiveJournal community)]], or pose the question to a wider group. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 06:48, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

==Protect==
Actually, what I meant was to blank the page then, protect it after removing the vandalism.. :) --[[User:Cometstyles|Comet]][[User talk:Cometstyles|styles]] 10:03, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
:Oh you did it while I was typing this..Thanks .. :) ..--[[User:Cometstyles|Comet]][[User talk:Cometstyles|styles]] 10:04, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

== wish to take the blank off ==

hi, you recnetly taekd to me on my user talk page, i was tired, and mad, i am humbly asking that you take it off and let me edit it from there.

sincerly, the border collie from south-central nebraska,
([[User:Kiboe Motegi|Kiboe Motegi]] 04:59, 5 January 2008 (UTC))

== hoy. ==

Thanks for pointing out the move tab. Last time I was here, we didn't have that function...
Hope you're available for the FC parade this year. --[[User:Madius|Madius]] 14:33, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:I was hoping to bring a newer suit than my rat suit this year. Dunno if there'll be enough room for two suits in the van. I'll be in the parade with a suit, just don't know if it'll be my rat suit. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 14:49, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

== Name? ==

I was just wondering if I could change my user name? [[User:Eurodex|Eurodex]] 22:16, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
:You might be able to get one of the Wikia techs to change it for you [http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Community_portal]. Otherwise you can just create a new account and abandon the old one. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 23:24, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

== thanks =^.^= ==

Just wanting to say thanks for the vandal-lock on my article. You can see it was under heavy attack. :) *squeeks* :P

== Roman de Renard - deleted image ==

Just finished editing http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Le_Roman_de_Renard_%28movie%29 and spotted that you deleted http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Image:Renard_Starewicz_01.jpg without any visible reason, reupload or comment on my talk page. Thanks, David/uncia. [[User:Uncia2000|Uncia2000]] 19:33, 3 May 2008 (UTC) 
(hopefully didn't wipe that concurrent edit there...)
:It was deleted because at the time, it wasn't used in any articles. Also, it had no copyright tag. I tried to undelete it for you, but it seems to have only partially worked. You can reupload it. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 19:50, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

''...And back again'' ;) 
Just spotted the deletion log: 
(Deletion log); 19:16 . . Rat (Talk | contribs) (deleted "Image:Renard Starewicz 01.jpg": unused image) 
Was only uploading the images for the article before writing the article and didn't manage to get that done within 2 hours. Trust that's OK to have reuploaded having noted that, but please give me a holler if there are any other issues. Cheers, David. [[User:Uncia2000|Uncia2000]] 19:54, 3 May 2008 (UTC) 

Darn these concurrent updates *g* You're a busy ratty. thx ^^
:I tagged it with the image tag <nowiki>{{screenshot}}</nowiki>. That would have likely held off deletion longer. Probably I also have to give unused images a bit longer of a chance to be used. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 19:59, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
:: No probs & noted for reference! :) [[User:Uncia2000|Uncia2000]] 20:14, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

== Help? ==

Thanks for correcting some of my mistakes, and could you perhaps tell me how I can re-upload an image? I uploaded the wrong version of an image but unlike other wikis I don't see the 'Upload New Version' option under the image page. I'd also like my signature image to redirect to my page, but the code I used was from another wiki, and it doesn't seem to have worked here. [[Image:UserRakyrenSig.gif|User:Rakyren]][[User:Rakyren|''' Rakyren''']] 19:28, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
:For uploading a new version I do see an "Upload a new version of this file" in the File history section. As for having an image go to a page besides the image description page, I don't know that that's possible. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 20:14, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

== [[Talk:Straitfox]] ==

I was wondering if you could considering editing your comment on [[Talk:Straitfox#Controversy_section]]. I see it as open for abuse if an anonymous person can add (directly or indirectly) unreferenced material about someone else that cannot be removed due to it being a Talk page. Possibly linking to the diff where the content was added or removed would be sufficient for discussion without giving the unreferenced content a prominent place on the Talk page? --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 07:24, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

:Sounds reasonable. I've removed that portion of the comment and replaced it with a link. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 07:56, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

== Suggestion for dealing with continuous vandals ==

If someone seems to be vandalizing pages even as you revert, my suggestion is to block that user and then return to reverting their edits. That way, it doesn't turn into an edit war. -- [[User:Siege|Siege]]([[User talk:Siege|talk]]) 03:15, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

== Selective enforcement ==

Rat, you'd better have a chat with brushwell - he seems to think that some things should not apply to certain people/articles.

[[User:AnthroSamurai|All hail VLADUZ - the EBAY IMPALER!]] 12:56, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

:He's just being a little overzealous - mistook an insertion of content for a removal. -- [[User:Siege|Siege]]([[User talk:Siege|talk]]) 15:39, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

::This guy's a serial moron, looking for excuses to drag other people into his petty games. --<big>''' [[User:Brushwell Clinton|Brushwell]] '''</big>Loves your face.[[User_Talk:Brushwell Clinton|T a l k]] 06:48, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Be thankful I don't know how to hack BRUSHWELL, or you'd be GONE! It's sluppies like you that start crap and then whine about it when the person you've deliberately set out to piss off wind up kicking your ass up and down the river.
Siege, what I was refering to was dickhe.. I mean BRUSHWELL's unwarranted reversions.

[[User:AnthroSamurai|All hail VLADUZ - the EBAY IMPALER!]] 23:25, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

:I'd love to see you try cracking this machine. I don't run Windows. --<big>''' [[User:Brushwell Clinton|Brushwell]] '''</big>Loves your face.[[User_Talk:Brushwell Clinton|T a l k]] 13:58, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

::Doesn't mean it's impossible. Security is more than choosing a good OS. -- [[User:Siege|Siege]]([[User talk:Siege|talk]]) 04:27, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

:::Considering I'm behind two hardened UNIX firewalls... :P --<big>''' [[User:Brushwell Clinton|Brushwell]] '''</big>Loves your face. [[User_Talk:Brushwell Clinton|T a l k]] [[Special:Contributions/Brushwell_Clinton|C o n t r i b s]] 12:02, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

== Thank ! ==

thank for the welcome message :) [[User:BePower|BePower]] 21:06, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

== To-do ==

Need any help with your to-do list? ^^

-[[User:Afkhideki|Afkhideki]] 13:42, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
:Sure, you're welcome to help with any of it. The lists are dynamically generated. The "add person stub" list is in ascending order of size, while the "remove person stub" tag list is in descending order of size. So you'd start at the top, then eventually you'd get into ones where you have to make a judgment call, then you're done, even though the list is still there. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 20:25, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

== On animations... ==

Hi, I've been wondering; the mature animation sections states that "This category is intended for those works of animation which are targeted for mature audiences,
and which don't really qualify as movies or television shows. Examples of works that may be listed here include (but are not limited to) short films, music videos, and flash videos."

But, High Tail Hall, KO Fighter & Lovesaber are listed, all three are really Flash games. While all three are already in Category:Video games, I don't think they should be in Category:Animations at all.
[[Special:Contributions/190.59.60.85|190.59.60.85]] 23:09, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
:I don't think I should make a decision for the whole site. Bring it on on the Talk page for the articles, or on the Category Talk page. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 23:17, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

== On animations... ==

Thanks alot, I'll do that
[[Special:Contributions/190.59.60.85|190.59.60.85]] 23:59, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

== VNU / Family archive ==

Thanks for the vigilance. However, given that my grandfather was the owner of his own portrait(rights) and not VNU, this picture is not VNU copyrighted. It is the copyright of his family. Can you please delisty this picture from the deletion request list? Thanks! Kind Regards 193.113.57.165 20:58, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
Teruggeplaatst van "http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Image:J.H.AdeGoeij.JPG"

== Newb wolf gives thanks ==

My thanks for sorting my page for me. I'm still learning how this whole wiki thing works. Take care!

P.S. I liked the suit you loaned Synthwolf, checking it out was what got me into suiting myself. :p

[[User:Fernin|Fernin]] 12:37, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

==Reply==
Thanks for the talk page note. Though I'm quite familiar with mediawiki, I'm ignorant of Wikifur's styles and conventions, so I'm just faking it. [[User:ANFKL|ANFKL]] 04:10, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
:Hehe, well, just look at what other people do, give it a try, and if you make a mistake, it can be fixed. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 05:56, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

== Image without license ==

Hi Rat,
Could you have a look at [[Image talk:Full plate armor.png]]? I know you've done a lot about licensing images. Thank you!
-- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 16:32, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
:He's given a link to a source now, which clearly says copyrighted at the bottom of the page. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 20:05, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

== about the article [[hideki]] ==

this is an alternate account of [[user:afkhideki]], and i am also the subject of that article ([[hideki]]). will you please blank it out? i can log in as the other account as well if you need proof (since that account created that article)
-[[User:Merr|Merr]] 14:57, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
:I'll take your word for it. Done. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 08:45, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

==Bobskunk.jpg==
Hi, Rat.

Could you have a look at [http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Image:Bobskunk.jpg Bobskunk.jpg]? You seem to have the best understanding of image licensing around here, and I'm not sure "fair use" can be claimed just because an image was posted in someone's FA gallery. Thanks!--[[User:Higgs Raccoon|Higgs Raccoon]] 14:39, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
:I say that posting it to a FA gallery doesn't make it fair use. The reason it likely is fair use is because it's using a drawing of a character for commentary about the character, as described by the {{tl|fursona}} template. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 16:42, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

== Kenzukafur‎ ==

Hiya! Since the only thing I can really do about vandalism is revert it, is there any chance you could take care of [[User:Kenzukafur‎]], and the second image he uploaded? He keeps making the same edits to the [[Fursuit]] article.
--[[User:Softpaw|Natasha Softpaw]] 04:12, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
:He's blocked now. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 04:27, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
::Thanks :-) --[[User:Softpaw|Natasha Softpaw]] 04:28, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
:::Good work holding the line - [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 04:30, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
::::Heh, thanks :-P --[[User:Softpaw|Natasha Softpaw]] 04:32, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
:::::I was a bit quicker with the second one. I misread the log on the first one and thought he was already blocked, and didn't look back until later. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 04:50, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

== Warm Welcomes. ==

Thanks for changing my article so that it looks ok i`m sure that you don`t get that sort of thing a lot.,it`s just that this is my first wiki,Well anyhow thanks for the Warm welcome and i hope to hear from you soon!Sincerly,Foxpelt.
:I wasn't the one who edited your article, but glad you liked the welcome. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 22:36, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
== [[:Image:Rune.jpg]]==
Sorry to send this message this way (I don't know how to send PM's over Wikia) but you put a Copyright post on my picture Rune.jpg.

As i am the artist of this picture and i write up the wiki page as a way for people to find out more about me and my work. I can honestly say that I am slightly peeved over this insinuation, but rules of the admin are rules to be abided by. What course of action should i take with the picture in question then?
{{unsigned|Runeaddyste}}
:Well, you are the copyright holder, so how you want to deal with it is up to you. You could release it under a free license, into the public domain, permission to use on WikiFur only, leave it with a fair use rationale, or we could remove it. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 16:55, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

== Message from 99.172.132.158 ==

Thanks for the invite, but I don't need an account. Like I said, I'm the Ramblin' Gnome, hoppin' the Internet Boxcar and fixin' up whatever wiki I can fix! Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to catch the midnight train goin' aaaaanyyyyywheeeeere...

--The Ramblin' Gnome

== Request for exclusion ==

I would like both my userpage and my article at [[Simon Lameth]] to be blanked and excluded. Thanks. [[User:SimonLameth|SimonLameth]] 05:40, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
:I have excluded it per [[WikiFur:PE]]. If you change your mind, ask any administrator. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 04:18, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

==Thank You==
I saw the trolling you stopped on my page. I'm very sorry I'm putting you through that. A lot of drama has started for me recently, and I hate to see others suffer. You and all the admins here deserve my deepest respect. You are a good person, Rat. Thank you God Bless you, God be with you, and God Speed!!!

== Request for Review ==
As it's impossible to leave Spirou a message on his Talk page, and requests for review are being ignored on the article's talk pages, I'll once again point out the [[Forum:Popping_%28Under_revision%29 | draft page]] is now ready for review. —[[User:Xydexx|Xydexx]] 14:59, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

== Request For Review ==
Once again, the [[Popping]] [[Forum:Popping_%28Under_revision%29 | draft page]] is ready for review. In the continued interest of not wasting everyone's time, it'd be really peachy if one of the Admins could finally resolve this long-neglected issue no later than October 24 2009, 11:59 PM EDT —[[User:Xydexx|Xydexx]] 19:38, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

== Request ==

can you please remove and lock my article, [[Aditi]], please? thank you in advance. [[User:Hooved goddess|Hooved goddess]] 12:22, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
:Ok, I intend to do it within 24 hours, probably less. Have you looked at [[WikiFur:PE]] and none of the alternatives fit your needs? --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 16:11, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

== Hello ==

<nowiki>*pokes Rat*</nowiki> Nice to meet you. :3 [[User:Silver seren|Silver]][[User talk:Silver seren|seren]][[Special:Contributions/Silver seren|C]] 21:38, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
:Hello. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 21:40, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
::I'm just getting to know all of the admins so I can bug them about any questions I have if I need to. :P [[User:Silver seren|Silver]][[User talk:Silver seren|seren]][[Special:Contributions/Silver seren|C]] 21:43, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Ok, no problem. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 21:45, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

== URL Blocked? ==

The URL "furscape(dot)servegame(dot)com" is apparently blocked, making saving impossible.

Can you please fix this? Thanks!

--[[Special:Contributions/74.177.69.253|74.177.69.253]] 22:00, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
:ok, i gave it a try. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 22:06, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

== Cenarius image suggestion ==

Made suggestion at [[WikiFur:Images_and_media_for_deletion#Image:Cenarius1.jpg]] --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 04:03, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
:Ok, still copyrighted, but it's a screenshot so it more accurately reflects the character. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 04:28, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

== merge Laya Eateric? ==

Merge suggestion at [[Talk:Laya Eateric]]. Hope you will post reply there. --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 08:18, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

== WikiFur Noticeboard ==

Hi. I just wanted to make sure you were aware that [[WikiFur:Noticeboard]] was recently opened. Your input on any open topics would be appreciated, and please feel free to open new topics as you see fit. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 04:36, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

== Lightening you to-do list ==

I have added the person stub template to the following articles on your to-do list, simply for something to do and to help you out a bit:
*[[Jamie Hewlett]]
*[[Xenonzero]]
*[[Jeff Axer]]
*[[BunnyPowah]]
*[[Hotarubaku]]

I may do more later, saving for now. --[[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 18:16, 4 May 2011 (EDT)
:Cool, thanks. They are sorted by size, so you'd start at the top and stop when you think you reach the size where they don't require a modification. But you seem to have figured it out. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 19:03, 4 May 2011 (EDT)

Anthropomorphic

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:''"Anthro" redirects here. You may be looking for the [[fanzine]], '''[[Anthro (magazine)|Anthro]].''
'''Anthropomorphic''' is a word which means "Built for Big Black Cock". It is a well known fact that all anthro-fans and anthro animals yearn for the BBC of an Angolan/Congolese BVLL. It has been fact checked TRUE by Science and Snopes that all Anthros are built for the BBC.

In a literary sense, there is a difference between ascribing human traits to an object (anthropomorphism), or to an abstract concept ([[W:personification|personification]]).

==Anthropomorphic and furry==
[[File:Anthro_dolphin_and_anthro_horse.jpg|thumb|150px|Dolphin and horse anthropomorphic characters]]
Since the 1980s, the [[furry fandom]] has used the word to refer primarily to animals. Anthropomorphic animals are sometimes called ''anthro'' or ''morphic'' for short, and media featuring [[furry]] [[character]]s is sometimes called ''[[anthro art]]''.

Words like [[zoomorphic]] and [[therianthropy|therianthropic]] also describe creatures on the animal-shaped end of the anthropomorphism spectrum, but anthropomorphic is the more widely used term in the fandom.

There are subtle differences between the terms for an animal that '''thinks''' like a human and an animal that '''looks''' like a human. However, within the furry community the following terms seem to be used interchangeably:

*Anthropomorphic/Anthro/[[Morphic]]
*[[Zoomorphic]]
*[[Non-anthro]]/Non-morphic/[[Feral]]

==See also==
*[[W:Anthropomorphism|Anthropomorphism]] on [[Wikipedia]]

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User talk:GreenReaper

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{{User talk:GreenReaper/Header}}

== Question about my wikifur page ==

Hello, I was told by spirou to talk to you about my wikifur page.
I sent a note about it to your FA. It will be from the user "Fuzzlemuzzle".

Please read when you get the chance, thank you!

== Bots ==

Is there anyway to have a bot put ContributorU on user pages, at least the ones with a matching article name? Or, perhaps, one that puts welcome templates on the talk pages of new users? [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 19:53, 22 June 2011 (EDT)
:Both of those are technically feasible, but the first would require writing a bot script and assumes they are the same person, while I'm not sure the second is a good idea in general. Welcomes are at best rather impersonal if you have a bot do them, and at worst end up looking stupid when you start welcoming vandals (faking the last admin to edit signing it only makes it worse, as seen at Wikia). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 20:01, 22 June 2011 (EDT)
::All right. Just a thought I had and thought I'd ask about. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 20:13, 22 June 2011 (EDT)

== Questions ==

What do you define the difference between a [[fursuit]] and an [[wikipedia:animal costume|animal costume]]? The subject has come up at [[wikipedia:Talk:Fursuit#Explanation of edits undone|Wikiepdia's fursuit article]], but I'm a rather poor debater, and feel my opinion is pretty closed-minded. My opinion is that a fursuit is only a fursuit if associated with furry, otherwise, it's an animal or mascot costume. However, I know that some feel an animal costume is a fursuit, and the two are synonymous. I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on this. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 12:43, 28 June 2011 (EDT)

I'm looking for a comic - a single, not a series - that l originally found on readcomicsonline.li, about a dog who goes after his kidnapped mistress even though a wizard has partially turned him human. He eventually rescues her from a race of warlike demons. [[User:Tnarrud|Tnarrud]] ([[User talk:Tnarrud|talk]]) 21:36, 3 June 2023 (EDT)

:As it happens I was already reading that discussion. I think my response would be much the same as yours - certainly, animal costumes existed, but they were not used for the same reasons, nor (apparently) called the same thing. I might respond there, but I'm a little busy at work now. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 12:49, 28 June 2011 (EDT)

Also, whenever I try to edit a section or add a new section, the wiki tries to replace the entire text with the section. Any thoughts on why this is? It may have something to do with the fact that I am using Internet Explorer, which gives me problems in general on this Wiki. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 12:45, 28 June 2011 (EDT)

:What version of IE is it? Does it happen if you do turn off the advanced editing functions in [[Special:Preferences|preferences]] so that you no longer have the WikiEditor toolbar showing? --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 12:49, 28 June 2011 (EDT)

+ ::It's the newest version. The only difference between the newest version and the older one (which I used on my PC) is that this allows me to edit, as long as I do not scroll down the page, whereas the older would simply lock up my computer if I even went to an edit page. The only way I am able to edit on this laptop I often use is by typing without scrolling too much, and then clicking the "Changes" tab, where it allows me to scroll down to click save. I have just turned off the advanced editing functions, and it still did it. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 13:03, 28 June 2011 (EDT)

===Tabyhunterwolf===
Hello? May I ask how to create a page? Why can't find a button to create a page. I am new to this wiki. I would love to contribute to this wiki website. --[[User:Tabyhunterwolf|Tabyhunterwolf]]([[User talk:Tabyhunterwolf|talk]]) (5 November 2019) (12:42 AM Malaysia Time)

UNP -17: 2016-5/31
The information you pulled from a site in 2007
http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Forum:NEW_furry_survey!
May I have the demographics for it, I am conducting research dating anywhere from 1981 to 2008 before any real info existed.

== Disregard the email I just sent ==

You took care of it. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 21:44, 2 July 2011 (EDT)

Actually, now might be a good time to ask. I'd like to be able to fight vandalism with greater ease. And while it wouldn't have helped much in this last situation, would it be too much of me to request rollback privelages? [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 21:55, 2 July 2011 (EDT)

:Sure. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 22:01, 2 July 2011 (EDT)

Wow, really? I was honestly expecting a "I'm sorry, but..." (Especially considering my recent ousting as an EDiot.) Thanks! [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 22:06, 2 July 2011 (EDT)

:Just keep in mind [[Wikipedia:Vandalism#What is not vandalism|what is not vandalism]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 22:08, 2 July 2011 (EDT)

== wikifur.ru ==

[[:ru:ВикиФур:Портал_сообщества#wikifur.ru|WikiFur:Community_Portal#wikifur.ru]] — There is a discussion of domain and copyright protection (trademarks). --[[User:Dokatamaru|'''SHREW''']] 22:00, 8 July 2011 (EDT)
:''Responded''. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 00:19, 9 July 2011 (EDT)

== Altering/deleting species profile ==

After a few years of it being there, I suddenly found a user "Spirou" putting my Monoceros page up for deletion. When I undid his edit and asked why, he deleted it in its entirety and replaced it with a 'redirect'.

Just curious why I was singled out. Or are all http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Category:Fictional_species pages due to to be similarly deleted/redirected if any single WikiFur editor decides that a 'custom species' isn't to his or her liking? If you're nuking all of them, then no worries, I understand. But if it's just this page, I'd really like to know why.

There are multiple monoceri played online, and yes, I've referred others (esp. on SpheresMU*) to that page for reference. Just because no others of them are WikiFur members with their own page yet doesn't mean that the fictional species entry for monoceri should be deleted. Some fairness or explanation would be highly appreciated. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Tugrik|Tugrik]] ([[User talk:Tugrik|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tugrik|contribs]]) .

:''Discussion continued at [[Talk:Monoceros]].'' --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 10:39, 13 July 2011 (EDT)

== AFF postings ==

Mr Reaper, please do not mention my name at Flayrah.com when linking to AFF postings I made. I do not wish for my name to appear anywhere on that site. -- Oliver

:''Replied via email, after figuring out what posts was being talked about. Note: Flayrah has its own [http://www.flayrah.com/contact contact page].'' --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 10:39, 13 July 2011 (EDT)

== Policy Question ==

Do I need permission to write an article about somebody or could I create a stub based off of information on someone simply based off of their FurAffinity information? [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]][[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 12:17, 14 July 2011 (EDT)
:Anyone can start an article on any topic, unless a personal exclusion is in effect. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 12:32, 14 July 2011 (EDT)

== This has nothing to do with me ==

I don't want Meepsheep here any more than you if he acts like this. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]][[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 02:17, 17 July 2011 (EDT)

== Hello ==

There is a discussion that needs your attention at [[Talk:Encyclopædia Dramatica (.ch)]] <[[User:Ô|o]]> 03:58, 26 July 2011 (EDT)
:I skimmed over it a few minutes ago, but it didn't seem like any consensus had been formed as to do anything that would require a [[WikiFur:Curators|curator]]. The editing community as a whole makes the decision here, we just facilitate them, so you'll need to try to work things out with the regular editors of that article rather than appealing to authority. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 04:01, 26 July 2011 (EDT)

== Question ==

Are you going to permaban the IP (98.245.197.226) as well? This one is unique in that it isn't a proxy, but... [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]][[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 23:46, 26 July 2011 (EDT)

== Re: ==

I'll see if that works; thanks for the tip. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]][[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 15:43, 27 July 2011 (EDT)

<del>Hm...I must have a different layout for Yahoo, I'm not seeing any of the buttons I'm supposed to click. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]][[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 15:49, 27 July 2011 (EDT)</del>

I found it, but It leads me to a blank page. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]][[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 16:00, 27 July 2011 (EDT)

However, eBuddy works. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]][[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 16:12, 27 July 2011 (EDT)

Well, I talked to him. Nothing was really accomplished, however. He accused me of attacking him when I was merely asking why he wanted the section removed, which he didn't give a clear answer to. He said he didn't want people googling his name to find out about FA, so I suggested not indexing it, which you've apparently done. However, he then said it was pointless to have the article at all if Google can't find it, to which the only solution is personal exclusion, but he didn't want that either. Then he ''did'' want it. He seemed to have changed his mind again by the ''end'' of the discussion, and said the information was inaccurate. I advised him to correct it, then threatened to blank it immediately after. All the while making passive aggressive insults and threatening to tattle on me to you for "bringing drama" and telling me I'm lucky he didn't have me banned, despite having done nothing wronf. In fact, I was more polite than usual. Also, you apparently "told him about me" but I don't know what you said. All in all, it only managed to shave a few years off my lifespan, because I still don't know what he wants or what happened. So, I was wondering if you could explain to me what I'm supposed to do/have done, or talk to him yourself. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]][[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 17:40, 27 July 2011 (EDT)
:We've had further conversation. This sort of thing happens every now and again in some cases. For the record, all I really told him about you was that you wouldn't respond well to vague threats - which was apparently correct. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 21:21, 27 July 2011 (EDT)

It's not that I thought you said anything bad, he just alluded to it enough that it seemed like something important. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]][[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 21:30, 27 July 2011 (EDT)

== RBW boat party notice ==

Hi GreenReaper,

That's actually a very good point - it seems to be a UKFur issue. If you go here : http://forum.ukfur.org/forum/86-ukfur-events/, and look at the RBW forum 'last updated' thing on the right, it (currently) says 124 topics, but the forum itself is only showing 3 pinned topics.... I've PM'd the admins about it and I'm waiting on the response. In the meantime, you can search the UKFur boards, using "RBW boat party" (minus the quotes) as search criteria, and the article is (currently) the 4th one down. The actual comment from Miyabi (aka sneppid) is post #19 and reads as follows:

''We've sortof dropped the ball on this – we're all quite enjoying the time off; not having massive heart palpitations and not being plunged into huge personal debt is a really nice feeling :3 We're also pretty busy managing LF stuff (well, most of us are, anyway). We'll probably make an official announcement soon but for the time being don't hold your breath for a 2011 boat party – think 2012 instead. We couldn't get the Erasmus at all for the dates we wanted this year, which wouldn't be a huge problem but we'd like to keep the vessel the same. Sorry about the radio silence, but will keep you posted re: 2012.''

So, no "official" announcement generally available, no. If that changes, I'll update the article (assuming you're happy with this as a reference - I can email you a screenshot if you like. :) [[User:Bezel|Bezel]] 05:15, 2 August 2011 (EDT)

:The issue with UKFur should now be fixed - apparently there were some unexpected hiccups when the RBW posts were moved from "conventions" to "events", which have now been corrected. [[User:Bezel|Bezel]] 11:06, 3 August 2011 (EDT)

== UKR flag ==

Can you add the UKR (Ukraine) flag to flagdiv and Flags.png? --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 09:07, 2 August 2011 (EDT)

==Furnal Equinox Edits by Non-Directors/ConCom==

Hey Green, We've all been through this before. dan skunk is reversing edits on the page, after I removed the "see other/danskunk" and he placed it back. With me removing again. As a director of the convention and concom, speaking with others on said places. We do not wish his wikifur linked from our page article. He has mention in the article and that is enough, he has and still continues to cause problems for us, including many threatening e-mails sent to myself and other directors of the convention in the last few months. We would appreciate if he was blocked from editing our page, or our page was locked from edits, except from anyone of the directors. Scani, Myself, Blindsight, Pakesh or Arctic. At the least I'd like dan skunk to be prevented from editing our page. We don't need more issues then we already have with him and his problems.

Shane Nicholson
Director/ConCom - Furnal Equinox

:Perhaps it's poor form for me to interject on user talk pages, but I noticed this change had felt compelled to jump in because you're asking for administrative lockdowns on this article. Generally, I feel it is not appropriate policy for pages to be locked down to a whitelist of official authors who can contribute. I help run a convention, so I have a similar perspective about public perceptions and controlling impressions. We do this through our convention website, and I think that's the appropriate place for controlled messages and positive promotional text. Our event, like yours, has had a turbulent past that got us to where we are today, and while history isn't always positive or engendering of those presently organizing an event, convention, website, etc., it's an important part of the history of the event, but also, often for the regional fandom at large. If items are added which are true facts, written in a NPOV, and are referenced according to standard, even if they cast an event in a contentious or less than positive light, they're part of a total perspective an encyclopedic article deserves. I noticed the tremendous amount of edits/reverts/reedits/talk page notes that have been going on about your event, and I can't find evidence that Dan is "trolling" in any usual sense, though I certainly understand how you might wish him to not publish his edits as associated with your event. However, I think to be true to it's intended form, that's a concession we have to allow to keep Wikifur credible and in a long-term sense, truly useful. I don't believe anyone should be granted a privileged status as to what an article should say because they are elected or appointed to organize the subject matter being discussed. At the very least, I would recommend that if Dan puts up something you find untruthful, the references be questioned and researched by uninvolved parties, and consensus is reached before edits/reverts are made. Until that happens, even if you were exclusive granted access to maintain the article, it would no longer be credible, it would simply be promotional without community consensus and involvement. [I am going to cross-post this to your own Talk page just so you get this.] [[User:BlueOtter|BlueOtter]] 17:03, 17 August 2011 (EDT)

== Just updated some info ==

This is Cloudchaser Sakonige. I just edited "Cloudchaser Shaconage" and "Furry Dictionaries" to correct the spelling of my last name and on "Cloudchaser Shaconage" I updated the External Links. That of course has broken the link to "Cloudchaser Shaconage" from "Furry Dictionaries." How do I edit the main title of "Cloudchaser Shaconage" so "Shaconage" get changed to "Sakonige"? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.247.129.251 ([[User talk:69.247.129.251|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/69.247.129.251|contribs]]) 07:47, 19 August 2011 (UTC) 

== Since both questions have been ignored, I'll post this here. ==

So you deleted the article; fair enough. However, while the other article continues to exist I find that a prime example of double standards. Also that you didn't allow a true discussion to be held about its deletion seems silly. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]][[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 17:17, 26 August 2011 (EDT)
:You mean the one about Blu Aardvark? If there's a consensus there to delete it, I'd be fine with that as well. As far as I'm aware, they haven't really been an issue here recently. As for the discussion, I saw four people in favour of deletion - five if you count me - one oppose (from the page creator), and one noncommittal response. If we were Wikipedia, it might be necessary to keep such pages around to inform those unaware of the situation, but I don't think that's the case here. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 17:19, 26 August 2011 (EDT)
:Double-standards? On WikiFur? It's more likely than you think! —[[User:Xydexx|Xydexx]]
:Meh. I only saw two opposing (excluding you). And ohai Xydexx, good to see you survived the earthquake. Unless you're a ghost. And that'd be weird. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]][[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 17:45, 26 August 2011 (EDT)
::Ohai Equivamp. Rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated. The earthquake really didn't do much damage here, but we definitely felt it. —[[User:Xydexx|Xydexx]]
:Looking back at it, there were three (four counting you). [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]][[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 17:58, 26 August 2011 (EDT)
::Fair enough. I'll take four over one, especially when they're the ones who have to deal it. This isn't a game for us, it's a waste of time that could be spent writing articles. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 18:14, 26 August 2011 (EDT)

I'm not playing "games" if that'd what you're implying. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]][[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 18:18, 26 August 2011 (EDT)

== Thanks ==

Just wanted to say thanks for the welcome :) [[User:Bi-snow|Bi-snow]] 16:37, 4 September 2011 (EDT)

==Moving Equivamp==
Hi GR, 
I'm curious as to why you went through the process of deleting Equivamp's article, moving the revision over, and restoring the old edits. Wouldn't it have been quicker to just cut and paste, or am I overlooking something?--[[User:Higgs Raccoon|Higgs Raccoon]] 23:10, 4 September 2011 (EDT)
:Perhaps, but it would have left the edits made by Equivamp separate. I felt it was better to keep them all together. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 23:11, 4 September 2011 (EDT)

==TGcomix==
Can you please keep an eye on the tiny community of pedophiles here, especially with [http://en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Tyciol&diff=343523&oldid=341592 their stated intentions to harass 15-year-old girls] on TrikiWiki.org, which he uses to write about his personal enemies (eg. Brainwurms, Zaiger420, Thayo). I doubt that TGcomix wishes to be a constructive contributor here; his main goal seems to be recruitment. I doubt Tyciol will present any problems; it's TGcomix you really need to worry about. If you won't ban TGcomix in order to save your wiki from any problems he may present in the future, you should at least tell him that comments [http://en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Tyciol&diff=343523&oldid=341592 such as this] aren't welcomed. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 17:25, 11 September 2011 (EDT)
:I should also point out [http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/User_talk:Equivamp#Equivamp they are furry-based comments], in case that's relevant. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]][[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 18:49, 11 September 2011 (EDT)
::With the speed that GR reverted meep's inappropriate inquiry on my talk, it makes me think it's on a watch list or somethin'. Anywho, I dispute MDS' allegation of being a member of such a community. I'm polite enough to engage in discourse with anyone including this TG fellow but do not want any part of his plans to harass Eq on this trikiwiki thing. I took a look at it and it is in poor taste. [[User talk:Tyciol|Ty]] 04:24, 29 October 2011 (EDT)
:::Edits to all WikiFur sites are posted to [irc://irc.freenode.net/wikifur-edits #wikifur-edits] on [[WikiFur:IRC|IRC]], and I often review them. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 04:27, 29 October 2011 (EDT)

== Article wikifur.com/Fritter ==

GreenReaper,

As of Monday, the 12th of September 2011, my charges have been unconditionally withdrawn by the Crown and Court of Ontario, Canada. On that note, I would like to request my personal information be removed from my article page without threat of moderators such as AshleyAshes re-adding such information. In addition, I would like the note of any mention of the charge be removed, as it now poses as a threat to my future in both personal and professional stances. If you require any written proof, I am in the process of gathering the documentation from the courts and my lawyer notating that the matter has been resolved outright.

In addition, I would like to file a complaint against your moderator AshleyAshes, for personally bringing it upon himself to see that my reputation be tarnished, even after the criminal charge has been dropped. He played the entire matter as though I was guilty from the instant I was picked up, and appears to believe it is still the case though my charge has been dropped. I would like to politely speak with you in private on this matter further, so that these issues may be resolved as cleanly and respectfully as possible. It has been a difficult past 6 months, and I would like to do my best to keep those past 6 months under wraps for the future.

[[User:Fritter|Fritter]] 20:57, 14 September 2011 (EDT)

:Hi Fritter. I am glad to hear that you have apparently resolved this matter. As the information we have is backed by a published news article, some form of reference or document proving what you have said would be appreciated. If it can be proven, I am personally open to removal of the topic from the article about you; however, as we act on consensus and have not faced this exact situation before, I'll sound out the feelings of other editors on the [[Talk:Fritter|discussion page]].

:You might consider contacting the newspaper which originally covered this story to ask them to print an update. I also would be glad to update the [http://www.flayrah.com/3490/furry-fritter-charged-possession-child-pornography Flayrah article on this topic], and/or to post a new story there of equal prominence mentioning the withdrawal of the charges.

:[[User:AshleyAshes|AshleyAshes]] is not a [[WikiFur:Colleagues|WikiFur colleague/curator]] and does not represent the site in any capacity beyond that of a contributor. He also has no more or less power than you have - well, OK, ''technically'' there are a couple of things he can do because your account is new as of yesterday, but he has not been granted any special powers. We encourage all editors to ensure that articles are accurate and comprehensive, although in this case I would have preferred to see an attempt to confirm the information provided rather than immediately remove it.

:In the future, I suggest using the "summary box" above the save page button to provide an explanation of the motivation for your edits to other editors. This will appear on the [http://en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=Fritter&action=history history page] as a brief explanation of the edit. Without it, it can be tricky to deal with situations like user A adding information X to an article, user B removing it for a reason in line with wiki guidelines (e.g. a lack of a citation), and user A then adding it in again without giving any response to B's reasoning.

:You are welcome to [[WikiFur:IRC|talk to me in the #wikifur chat room]], or to [[Special:EmailUser/GreenReaper|email me]], but please bear in mind that I am relocating to Texas this weekend and may be away packing up boxes. As mentioned above, policy and article content decisions on WikiFur are made through the [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Consensus|consensus of editors]], not handed out from above as in most websites, but I would be glad to advise you on how our system works and suggest how best to achieve your goals. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 21:53, 14 September 2011 (EDT)

== Removing pages created by me a long time ago ==

Hello, I was wondering whether I can have the pages for "Sparks (fan)" and "Syona Starlight" removed from this wiki. I am Syona, Sparks is my significant other. I am trying to scrub the net clean of what I can of any of our presence. Thank you. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Darkeskunk|Darkeskunk]] ([[User talk:Darkeskunk|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Darkeskunk|contribs]]) .

:''Following up via FA note and AIM''. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 23:50, 2 October 2011 (EDT)

== Question about terms. ==

Hello, I'm Targal and EvilDragon. you should know me already, as I was sometime in IRC.

:Hi there! Sorry for the slow reply, I've been busy recently in [[real life]] . . .

1.
Rante has made classification about furry. as I saw it, but his term in the word explaining classification looks something weird.
so I question you looks whether it something uncomfortable or not.

I guess You should know these codes can be seen well on a book of libraries.

http://hellodragon.tistory.com/41

I think It'll be better if they're revised as latin-ous.

:I do not particularly like codes as they are inflexible. For example, it says there that my character has a human body . . . but it is half the height of a human, and in fact the stance is more forward-leaning. It also appears to be redundant to define "divisions" if you have defined "detailed divisions" as it can be calculated from that. Overall, I would ask what is the use of such classification? On WikiFur, we use words, and it works well enough, I think.

2.
is the word "furry" literary style?

this meaning is that the word "Kemono" in Japanese can ba hardly written on novels, because it's something inproper. but the word "Jyujin" having a similar meaning to Kemono is used often than "Kemono" on novels.
likewise the word "suin" in Korean meaning furry and jyujin is also used on a novels, but it's so informal term only used on internet products that it can be written hardly on formal words. (but 'suin' is available half on novels)
for example, you have to write 'yiffy' as 'adult furry things' on a formal paper, because 'yiffy' is a slang.

so, I wonder whether the word 'furry' can be used like that or not.

:"Furry" is an informal term; you will not find it in any official dictionaries . . . yet. It is however used by many conventions and artists to describe themselves. If you want a more formal term for the characters which we focus on, I would suggest "[cartoon] anthropomorphic animal". --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 00:00, 3 October 2011 (EDT)

== Deletion of my article and all other mentions/page/etc ==

Hi! I would like to remove any real mention of me, the article on me, etc. I am now concerned about my privacy and the amount of information available about me on the internet, and would like to get rid of it as much as possible. You can contact me via the email listed in my preferences (I assume this is viewable by you?)

Thank you in advance :)

--[[User:Dimruthien|Dimruthien]] 06:33, 11 October 2011 (EDT)
:Replied via email outlining [[WikiFur:Personal exclusion|personal exclusion]] process (and its limits). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 02:42, 15 October 2011 (EDT)

==People to Add==
Hello GR, 
I wonder if you could suggest a direction for the [[:Category:People/People_to_add|People to Add]] list? In particular, what should be done with names that defy a reasonable amount of research? Take "Susan Gui" or "John T Baptist", for example. Neither have any mention within WikiFur, and Google searches combined with obvious words like "furry", "furries", "fursona", "anthropomorphic", etc, produce no relevant hits. Neither do Google Groups searches or trying to guess a Fur Affinity account name.

Should such names be left, or removed?--[[User:Higgs Raccoon|Higgs Raccoon]] 17:25, 27 October 2011 (EDT)

:I'd suggest removing them, on the basis that placement on the list is only useful if other people know who you're talking about. If the original adder really wants to make that article, they can always do that. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 17:28, 27 October 2011 (EDT)

== Interesting archive splitting ==

I noticed your separate Admin/Policy + Technical + General categories for your archives. That is neat but it makes me wonder, does it add more work to archiving? Like do you look at each topic one by one and decide where you want to put it? So eventually, the order they are displayed in when split looks different from how they initially appeared in sequence when first posted? I thought about the possibility of adding month-parent single = cats but that is only for standard methods and would clearly overcomplicate in addition to this trinity division. [[User talk:Tyciol|Ty]] 04:29, 29 October 2011 (EDT)
:Yes. It is more work; I do it because I am in a unique situation as many policy decisions and technical questions have been answered on my talk page, and it may be necessary for people to look through the archives to determine the historical basis for a decision (or just to get a general feel for the site's history). This makes it easier for them, as there's less to read through. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 04:37, 29 October 2011 (EDT)

== I wish to remove my character from Wikifur ==

I would like to remove my character's profile from wikifur. I cannot delete it, can you do that for me? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Jenesri|Jenesri]] ([[User talk:Jenesri|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jenesri|contribs]]) .

:I'm presuming you want us not to cover you, as well as your character? What we typically offer is [[WikiFur:personal exclusion|personal exclusion]], since otherwise anyone could recreate an article if it was deleted. I have noted your request on the [[Talk:Jenesri|relevant discussion page]], and if there is no objection (which is likely), it will be excluded. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 21:55, 26 December 2011 (EST)

== Problems with Internet Explorer ==

It would appear IE still has problems editing the site (though it can view it just fine). Editing is possible if I make the changes, then click the "Changes" tab at the top before clicking Save. Not doing this results in me having to resart the internet. This is a brand-new computer; I am using the most updated version of IE. Yes, I know, that's what I get for using it in the first place, but I'm too busy to download Chrome. Is there any reason for this, or do you not know? [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]][[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 19:27, 9 January 2012 (EST)
:Try unchecking the beta and labs features on the "editing" tab of your [[Special:Preferences|preferences]]? --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 17:31, 11 January 2012 (EST)

::test [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]][[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 16:34, 16 January 2012 (EST)

:::Okay, it does appear to have worked. Thank you for your help. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]][[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 16:35, 16 January 2012 (EST)

== A strange link ==

Hi, I was talking with someone and they mentioned that there was a link on Timothy Albee's page here on Wikifur that pointed to my page on FurAffinity, (furaffinity.net/user/dreamsong).

While Tim and I were close for years, we were never _that_ close.

I was wondering if someone could change that link? (I think his FurAffinity page is still there under TimothyAlbee.)

Thanks!
Dreamsong

:Sure; the updated page is at [[Timothy Albee]]. Note that you can edit most pages on WikiFur, even without an account. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 18:18, 22 January 2012 (EST)

== Merge Kijani/Kijani Lion ==

Hi there, Kijani! I notice you already appear to have an account under User:Kijani Lion, initially created over at Wikia. Would you like me to merge the two?

You would need to login once as Kijani Lion using your old password, so that it correctly records contributions. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 03:50, 8 February 2012 (EST)

:Hi there,

:Yes if you could please merge the two userpages that would be great! It's been so long since I've edited by Wiki I completely forgot I had made that account. Thanks a lot! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Kijani|Kijani]] ([[User talk:Kijani|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kijani|contribs]]) .

::Great! Just [[Special:UserLogin|go here]] and enter the old username and password so it's imported (we moved from Wikia, so despite having a user page it isn't a full user, but logging in will fix it), then I'll get it merged. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 04:03, 8 February 2012 (EST)

::All merged. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 04:18, 8 February 2012 (EST)

== Personal exclusion/deletion ==
Hi, This is Rhylith, contacted you on FA.
Can I have the personal exclusion applied to my/this account? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Rhylith|Rhylith]] ([[User talk:Rhylith|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Rhylith|contribs]]) .
:I have noted your request on the [[Talk:Rhylith|article discussion page]] - if there is no objection, it will be acted on after 24 hours. I can also delete your [[User:Rhylith|user page]] if you would like. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 18:48, 11 March 2012 (EDT)

== User talk pages ==

I thought that only applied to the user page, while leaving the talk page up for public posts and Curators notices. At least that is how I have seen been done since day one - [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 22:35, 13 March 2012 (EDT)
:If it gets to the point of blocking someone, a notice may be appropriate until they are unblocked. If you just need to say something to them, they are entitled to remove your speech once it's heard. It's not meant to be a scarlet letter. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 22:42, 13 March 2012 (EDT)
:There's further thought on that [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Don't restore removed comments|at Wikipedia]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 22:49, 13 March 2012 (EDT)

== Re: WikiFur Conservator ==

Thank you for letting me know, as well as fixing the Furcode template on my userpage. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]][[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 08:46, 2 April 2012 (EDT)

==Mundane==
I agree with removing the edits on Babyfur and the other article, but why remove my edits on the article of "Mundane"?
Dylan [[User talk:Dylan|(talk)]] 07:57,22 April 2012 (EDT)

:The [[User:mwalimu|user concerned]] provided their reasoning in the [http://en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=Mundane&action=history edit history]. This explanation is added in the summary box, which should be used to explain your reasoning/provide context for edits to other editors. (To sign your name and add a timestamp in discussions, just type <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. In addition, please use the "show preview" button rather than saving changes repeatedly. See the [[help]] for more advice.) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 13:16, 22 April 2012 (EDT)

== More flag icons needed please ==

Hi,

In addition to Mwalimu's request above for the Ukraine flag to be added, could you also please add the following:

BEL (Belgium), EST (Estonia), FIN (Finland), HRV (Croatia), HUN (Hungary), IRL (Ireland), ISR (Israel), LTU (Lithuania), NLD (Netherlands)

as these are in an active article ([[ConFuzzled 2012]]) and are showing incorrectly. If you don't have the time or inclination, by all means tell me how to do it and I'll have a stab at uploading a file for you. Regards [[User:Bezel|Bezel]] 02:46, 22 May 2012 (EDT)

:Done. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 18:37, 26 May 2012 (EDT)

::Sorry, but we need more ! :) In relation to the [[ConFuzzled 2013]] article, we seem to be missing suitable flag icons for Iceland, the Isle of Man, and the United Arab Emirates. :) [[User:Bezel|Bezel]] 15:30, 20 May 2013 (EDT)

:::Thanks for letting me know - I'll drop myself a note to look at this when I get home. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 15:32, 20 May 2013 (EDT)

== Username blacklist thing ==

Can we forbid Weweesky as part of a username? It'd cut out a few of the having to immediately block as expected spammer accounts I'd like to think. I don't know if WikiFur has installed: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TitleBlacklist#Using_TitleBlacklist_to_control_user_account_creation -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 02:03, 4 June 2012 (EDT)
:We do have it (our extensions are listed at [[Special:Version]]), but it was disabled. I've enabled it now, so [[MediaWiki:Titleblacklist]] should work. I suggest not overusing it as spammers tend to rotate nicknames frequently; it's a little more useful for people trying to use certain elements in names, although it can just encourage creativity there as well. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 03:35, 4 June 2012 (EDT)

== Personal Exclusion ==

I was wondering if I could have my wiki-thing, Sparky15756, blanked? I'm intending to edit it at a later date but for now I'd rather have it blanked as it's just an egotistical page that I made a few years ago and would rather it not see the light of day (anymore). But I'd like to keep my account on here for when I finally get around re-editing my wiki-article.

~15756
:Since the reason seems to be more that you didn't like the current article rather than the idea of ''any'' article, I had a go at editing it. Please [[Sparky15756|take a look]] and tell me if you still wish to be excluded. (Also, you can sign your name in discussions with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>.) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 03:34, 22 June 2012 (EDT)

I still wish for the article to be excluded, but I do thank you for trying to make it look better.
~Sparky15756
:As you wish; I have placed the customary 24 hour notice on the talk page, and if there is no objection (likely) I will perform the exclusion. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 03:49, 9 July 2012 (EDT)

==Re-inclusion==

Hey again, I was wondering if it's possible to unblank and re-include my article? I've prepared a pre-made article for if/when my article can be edited.

~Sparky15756

:Sure. I've removed the exclusion and restored the last version; it is now open for editing. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 20:15, 29 March 2013 (EDT)

==Edit and Lock==
I'd like to request an edit and lock of my article on the grounds that I'm tired of two (unnamed) curators targeting my article with edits upon edits, one even threatening to block me from editing my page because I spoke out against them and even received word that I'm not allowed to talk about them on Twitter.
~Sparky15756

== Removal of page histories ==

Hi there, I've been doing a little editing and article pruning recently, and was wondering if you could delete the histories for my userpage, and article. 
I'm happy to stay on the site, but I'd rather some of the old and irrelevant information on the two pages that I've edited was removed. 
Thanks in advance!

[[User:UaineSionnach|UaineSionnach]] 18:46, 21 June 2012 (EDT)
:I have hidden the revisions which appear to contain personal information, such as your detailed location and date of birth. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 21:54, 21 June 2012 (EDT)
::That's wonderful, thank you! [[User:UaineSionnach|UaineSionnach]] 21:58, 21 June 2012 (EDT)

== Account rename (Mcgroarty) ==

Hey, Green. Would you be willing to rename [[User:Mcgroarty|Mcgroarty]] to Ink or McGroarty? I hadn't realized camelcase names might be an option at signup - they usually aren't with MediaWiki. And heck, I'd figured Ink would already be taken. Ink would be my first preference. --[[User:Mcgroarty|Mcgroarty]] 12:18, 6 July 2012 (EDT)

:I've taken the liberty of renaming the Mcgroarty account to "Ink".--[[User:Higgs Raccoon|Higgs Raccoon]] 12:31, 6 July 2012 (EDT)

== Help with Babysitting Cream? ==

Thanks for the welcome. I could use some help with the Babysitting Cream page, which is marked as needing to be wikified to match the Furry Book of Style. Whoever put that macro there, I'm not sure what they want fixed. (Aside perhaps from more citations, but the original author has explained the shortage of cites and I'm not sure I can improve on it much.) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:APDamien|APDamien]] ([[User talk:APDamien|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/APDamien|contribs]]) .

:Hmm. There is [[Talk:Babysitting Cream|some discussion]] of that work already. My view is that the topic is suitable, but it's not a good encyclopedia article. It reads more like a game guide. The choice of the section headers "How to play" and "Strategy" and the constant use of "you" are particularly telling. Description of the gameplay is appropriate, but less in the form of "here's what ''you should do''", and more "here's what happens if ''the player does'' X". The article also contains uncited personal opinions about how the game should be improved, stated as fact. If someone has given such an opinion elsewhere, it could be included but should be cited and attributed to them. (You can sign your conversations on talk pages with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>.) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 19:16, 15 July 2012 (EDT)

== Can I have my article removed ==

http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/SableQueanVilaya I wish to have this article about me removed. Please do so. Thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:SableQueanVilaya|SableQueanVilaya]] ([[User talk:SableQueanVilaya|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/SableQueanVilaya|contribs]]) .

== My article removal ==

Can I go ahead and blank it then put the exclusion tag on it? I really want this article removed. Please remove it or something. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:SableQueanVilaya|SableQueanVilaya]] ([[User talk:SableQueanVilaya|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/SableQueanVilaya|contribs]]) .

:''Was ultimately excluded.'' --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 19:46, 17 August 2012 (EDT)

== Page Reversion. (Unexclusion) ==

*After much consideration I would like the page back on track.
*I would however like to get solitary priveleges to change the page info.
*This is because other people have constantly changed it in the past, which let to its demise (and my temporary ban), updating it with incorrect info and details I myself corrected over time and time again.
*It seriously gets on your nerves after a while. I know Wikifur is a place where 'everyone' can contribute and I like\endorse that, but after seeing the disasters that can occur: page protection surely is a luxury.
*Sure, I would've liked it otherwise, but it seems some people (trolls in particular) can't handle that kind of freedom.

--[[User:BillyTheCat128|BillyTheCat128]]([[User talk:B|talk]])

:''[[User talk:Higgs Raccoon#Changing my page.|Correctly handled by Higgs Raccoon]] - we no longer offer this option, but advise watching pages with email notification.'' --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 19:46, 17 August 2012 (EDT)

== Unexclusion request ==

Kraaa!

For reasons similar to those of BillyTheCat128 above, I had requested an exclusion, most likely because I had self-edited my page (and I also wanted the history to be purged). However, I now would be interested in seeing how WikiFur editors see me. I would like the [[Diti]] page to be recreated, so I would be happy if you “unblocked” the page (or make it a “red link”)! Thank you! [[User:Diti|Diti]] [[User talk:Diti|the penguin]] — 04:40, 18 August 2012 (EDT)

:The article has been unexcluded and is now publicly editable. Let us know if you have any further concerns. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 10:08, 18 August 2012 (EDT)

== Babysitting Cream thumbnails ==

It appears that you provided specific thumbnails for the article on the Babysitting Cream game. However, one of the thumbnails was never uploaded (or had the wrong filename), resulting in an ugly bar for the missing image, and the other image was from an earlier version of the game.

I have replaced these using the standard "thumb" feature of the Wiki image reference, allowing the software to generate the thumb by the default method. If you want to rebuild the thumbs, this is a reminder that they are there. [[User:APDamien|APDamien]] 14:13, 3 September 2012 (EDT)

Oh, and thank you for replacing my incorrect version of the start page with a correct one. But... the way you did it doesn't get a full-size image when you click on it, only the thumbnail (with a link to the full image if you look for it). I don't understand how this thumb= stuff works well enough to fix it, so I'll just leave it up to you instead of reverting -- I hate reverts and will only do them for obvious vandalism or where the editor clearly didn't understand the purpose of the article/section. [[User:APDamien|APDamien]] 15:03, 3 September 2012 (EDT)

:Thank you for bringing this to my attention. The thumbnail was deleted because the software listed it as unused and another editor thought it was superfluous. I have noted its use on the file page. The thumbnails are used because indexed PNG thumbs are much more efficient than the full-colour ones made by default. I did a bit more digging and found that I can force a manual link as well as a thumb, so that should work nicely now.

:As for the earlier version image, I replaced it with what I consider to be the "title" screen, which is equivalent to an earlier version of the image. The warning screen might be included too, as a separate image but it seems a little superfluous - maybe just a mention in the text, if anything? (If you can't see anything useful in a thumbnail, it's probably not a good image to use.) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 15:11, 3 September 2012 (EDT)

== Further Confusion Charity totals ==

Hi. Have you had any luck in extracting the charity totals from FC for the past few years to be able to update the [[Timeline of charity donations]] article ? [[User:Bezel|Bezel]] 03:43, 4 September 2012 (EDT)
:Nope! I can try again, though . . . --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 03:59, 4 September 2012 (EDT)
:There were totals for both years in the budgets included with their 990 filing for 2011-2012 - $10,000 in 2011, $7000 in 2012. I updated the charity timeline. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 22:12, 28 December 2012 (EST)
::Thanks for the update :-) [[User:Bezel|Bezel]] 16:57, 30 December 2012 (EST)

== Policy on self-editing? Just asking for clarification... ==

Hey there. I'm Kashi Commodore, one of the newer associate developers hired to work on Furcadia. A long-time Furc player and Beekin, I've now joined the team at DEP.

I have my own article, which was self-edited to an extent to correct inaccuracies. And I suppose it might be prudent to update it given my new position. That thought has highlighted an idea..

I see a few factual inaccuracies in Furcadia related articles which I'd be happy to correct. Of course, that would be 'self-editing' in a sense and wanted to clarify what the policy is on that. I'm not a marketer or salesperson, and am happy to attempt to cite official sources where possible. But I wouldn't want to invalidate the encyclopaedic purity of the site - merely correct a few errors. I could see how I would not be regarded as impartial. I'm not sure if I can say I would be an 'official' source myself, but I'm certainly as official as you are likely to get, which has it's own pros and cons of course. I could provide examples of what 'inaccuracies' I refer to if that helps.

I'd love to hear your thoughts. Thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Kashicommodore|Kashicommodore]] ([[User talk:Kashicommodore|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kashicommodore|contribs]]) .

:Hi Kashi! At WikiFur we recognize that sometimes the best sources of information are those closest to the action. As such, we welcome such edits as long as they comply with the general policy on neutrality. There should be little problem with correcting questions of fact; if it starts getting into what you see as misconceptions of DEP policy or actions, it might be best to mention and reference examples of user views as well as the company's own position. In any case, we'd certainly prefer that you continue to do so under your own name, and to explain your reasons for changes in the summary box (or on the attached discussion page if necessary). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 15:02, 15 September 2012 (EDT)

== Editing protection ==

The edits in question are indeed large, other curators have used this method to prevent editing while making theirs, the pages are only 80% finished, I am not receiving comment on the future status of disambiguation pages, and i'm not using this template as my sole property toy, but to prevent the hanging data from being disturbed until the final edit.

This was done with [[Kitsune]] and [[Vixen]], and after being finished and unprotected, users started to modify the entries as normal. The changes are time consuming, long, tedious and a pain to enter one by one. Common courtesy during a curators edit would be appreciated - [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 21:08, 15 October 2012 (EDT)
:This is not "I will be the only one editing this entry forever!" territory. I'm talking large input of material at one, most of the entries from diverse and obscure references (specially foreign). - [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 21:14, 15 October 2012 (EDT)

::I [http://en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&limit=500&type=protect can't see evidence of use of this method] to protect personal editing projects. It is primarily used when there is a dispute over articles. If you have a large edit which you cannot complete within a matter of hours, it would be best to prepare it in your user space. I will expand on this in the ongoing discussion. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 21:16, 15 October 2012 (EDT)

:::Okay, then I will take Sine's suggestion, which is the most logical right know. I will remove (temporarily) the links that are currently not finished (not relinked, but just the ones with name and no description), move them to four folders for the four species/disambiguations on my Wikifur folder, and edit them offline, to be included back at a later time, so I can remove the edit tag, and open them to user traffic as of right now - [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 21:25, 15 October 2012 (EDT)

::::That sounds like a good way to start. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 21:27, 15 October 2012 (EDT)

== spam guy ==

i'm adding some new articles to the italian wiki,but another guy is putting spam around the pages( even the main one),so please block him,my account is "Escofal"(i can't log in to the eng wiki,only to the italian version of the site).That bad guy has an ip like "173.--"

:''Spammer blocked.'' --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 01:42, 7 November 2012 (EST)

However,a friend of mine posted another question in the eng forum but none has answered yet.

== Editing the Homepage ==

Hello Greenreaper! I'm Valery91Thunder from the italian Wikifur. I'm working with a friend of mine (Escofal, he wrote to you before) to replenish and update the Italian part of the Wiki. We're currently working on adding new pages, but we'd also like to change the layout of our homepage, which is currently looking like this: http://it.wikifur.com/wiki/Pagina_principale . We'd like to create something more resembling to this: http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/WikiFur_Furry_Central . Do you have any useful tips and tricks, or pheraps a link to a tutorial that shows us the best way to modify these pages? We're new, so we're still trying to learn the majority of the code. Thanks anticipate for your interest, we'll be waiting for your kind answer. :) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:79.3.154.44|79.3.154.44]] ([[User talk:79.3.154.44|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/79.3.154.44|contribs]]) .

:Hi Valery! I'm glad you want to develop the front page. Unfortunately there is no manual for them in particular - you have to click "edit" and see what is done - but [[mediawikiwiki:Help:Contents|MediaWiki has a manual]] - in fact there are [[Wikipedia:Help:Wikipedia: The Missing Manual/Introduction|several]].

:On the English WikiFur, we have locked the front page, and are using a feature called [[mediawikiwiki:Help:Templates|template inclusion]] so that the content of the front page is on other pages. Basically, anything like <nowiki>{{WikiFur Central/Something}} is actually at [[Template:WikiFur Central/Something]]</nowiki>. This makes it harder for people to edit it, which is both good and bad . . . we also have the front page sections rotate each week (with edit links to the appropriate week).

:Parts of the front page are on [[Template:WikiFur Central/Header]], [[en:Template:WikiFur Central/Featured]], [[Template:WikiFur Central/Comic of the Week]], [[Template:Upcoming events]], [[Template:WikiFur Central/Flayrah]], [[Template:Did you know]], [[Template:WikiFur Central/FeaturedPicture]], [[Template:Furpile]], [[Template:WikiFur Central/Footer]] and [[Template:WikiFur Central/MetaLinks]]. Most are protected to avoid vandalism (although to varying levels), because English gets a lot of it. There are also versions for screens which are [[WikiFur Furry Central/800|800px]], [[WikiFur Furry Central/650|650px]] and [[WikiFur Furry Central/480|480px]] wide, which have their own templates or re-order them.

:This is probably more complex than we need, and almost certainly more than ''you'' need. Given the size of the community, I would suggest that you consider it a "front page to furry fandom". What would someone new to the fandom want to learn? What Italian-languages resources, in particular, are useful? You can link to major topics, to categories - whatever you have available now. (One example along these lines is [[Wikipedia:Portal:Furry|Portal:Furry on Wikipedia]].)

:I suggest that you don't commit yourself to making sections that you will have to update all the time, especially if only a few people can edit it. If you want a featured section, that's fine - but make it one that you can leave for a few weeks if necessary. There is less chance of deliberate vandalism here. Don't be afraid to link to content elsewhere - if there are popular Italian podcasts/shows/news with RSS feeds, you can display links to them, [[Template:WikiFur Central/Flayrah|like we do for Flayrah]].

:I would also suggest looking at our [[WikiFur:Community Central|Community Central]] page ([{{fullurl:WikiFur:Community Central|action=edit}} source]), and mixing some of this type of material on your front page - as you do with the "new pages" section - because it encourages contribution to these articles, and it is automatically generated. Some of the sections there use [[mediawikiwiki:Extension:DynamicPageList (third-party)|DynamicPageList]]. This is a powerful but complex tool. Try it out, but don't expect it to do exactly what you want straight away! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 20:56, 11 November 2012 (EST)

::Hey there! Thanks for the quick reply, this is a lot of info indeed! I'll start looking at the pages you've linked soon, and your suggestion of doing a simpler page instead of a more "real-life updated" one was exactly in my thoughts. We had in mind to add some links to the major furry forums in there in case some new furs wanted a place to meet people and talk. :) Thank you again!

== Protecting the Homepage ==

Hi GreenReaper, it's Valery91Thunder again from the Italian WikiFur, sorry to bother you ^^"
We've successfully managed to edit the homepage, adding a new layout to it, more informations, and so on. We plan on creating the Community Portal as well, soon.
We had another hacker/bot attack, though, that re-edited the homepage. I've managed to restore our version, but still, it's utterly unpleasant seeing our page being changed like that. :( So we finally decided we should add protection to the homepage, but I think, as I'm only a normal user, that I don't have the permissions to do that.
Is there a way, or someone, that we can contact to do it for us?
Thank you again for your time and kindness. :)
:I have protected the main page against edits by anonymous or recently-registered users, and I have granted yourself and Escofal access as colleagues/sysops, since you are the active users at this time. Please use your new powers with restraint. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 16:46, 22 November 2012 (EST)

== Edits or Vandalism? ==

I am not sure if some of my edits could be seen as vandalism or not. Please reassure me that they are not.
[[User:M3talgearrock-solid|M3talgearrock-solid]] 10:56, 9 December 2012 (EST)
:I don't think you have anything to worry about at present. If people have a problem with your edits, I'm sure they will contact you about it. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 22:44, 15 December 2012 (EST)

== Removal of personal Information ==

Good morning,

I just wanted to request some information change on the wiki - firstly, about my birthdate, and my rl location, and my RL sex.
http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Xaxoqual

In particular I would like the birthdate removed, and the city, and the gendered pronoun. If you need verification it is me then I can post from FA or something. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Xaxoqual|Xaxoqual]] ([[User talk:Xaxoqual|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Xaxoqual|contribs]]) .

:Sure, I think we can do that in accordance with our [[WikiFur:Personal exclusion|Personal information policy]]. I've removed these RL details from the article history, and will follow up with you on FA to confirm identity. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 13:19, 12 January 2013 (EST)

== Help ==

Banned [http://ru.wikifur.com/wiki/%D0%A3%D1%87%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:%D0%92%D1%8B%D0%92%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%A1%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%91%D1%82%D0%B5 him]!! Quickly. Cancel [http://ru.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=%D0%A1%D0%BB%D1%83%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F:Contributions&limit=500&target=%D0%92%D1%8B%D0%92%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%A1%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%91%D1%82%D0%B5 changes] to the articles. I have a error (Error 503 Service Unavailable). High ping. [[User:Dokatamaru|'''SHREW''']] 13:16, 15 January 2013 (EST)
:Done. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 16:17, 15 January 2013 (EST)
::Excellent. [[User:Dokatamaru|'''SHREW''']] 16:49, 15 January 2013 (EST)

== File:GreenReaper.png ==

Are you using this file in some non-obvious way, or is it alright to delete from WikiFur as Unused? -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 17:13, 21 January 2013 (EST)
:Umm . . . I might be! I honestly don't remember. If anything it's a link on another site. Could probably be deleted. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 22:22, 21 January 2013 (EST)

== Hello, need help deleting a page? ==

Hi there, I made myself a page a while back under my username/character name 'Conjure'. I am no longer part of the fandom and have also changed my real name used in the article here. I would not like this info to be posted publicly anymore as it is irrelevant now. Is there any way you could help me delete it? Im not sure if you need proof or anything it is me, but i do use my real email on here and I have a facebook if need be.

Thanks!
{{unsigned|ConjureVerified}}

:An article does not have to be removed for personal information (such as legal name) to be removed. Even if you are no longer a member of the fandom, the article could stay (and be edited to reflect that) for historical purposes. If these compromises are acceptable to you then the article could stay. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]][[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 08:36, 24 January 2013 (EST)

== Mobile Frontend extension ==

Any chance of getting [[mw:Extension:MobileFrontend]] installed? It would make WikiFur more accessible in today's world of smartphones. Wikipedia themselves use this extension, it also provides some nice API methods for getting a short text extract from an article. --[[User:TerrorBite|TerrorBite]] 12:35, 6 February 2013 (EST)
:I've put the appropriate version of the code onto the server but I need a little time away from work to check it over before I can enable it. I also don't really have a suitable device to test it on - just a TracFone. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 15:08, 6 February 2013 (EST)

== Re: Box-centring ==

If you're seeing problem with messagebox alignment, it's probably because of our recent proxying changes. I'd bet your WikiFur logo is incorrectly aligned, too! I would hope that they sort themselves out over time. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 15:06, 6 February 2013 (EST)
:Ah, I wondered if it had something to do with that! No biggie. Thanks for the tip. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] - [[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 15:16, 6 February 2013 (EST)

== Ru-wikifur ==

Why is russian subproject unavailable now? -- ''Anonymous''.

:Are you sure? [http://ru.wikifur.com It is working fine for me]. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] - [[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 13:58, 13 February 2013 (EST)

:Some users have trouble accessing some editions of WikiFur through our new service provider, CloudFlare. We are working to solve the problem with them, which we believe is on their side. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 14:16, 13 February 2013 (EST)

== Image issues ==

Hi.

I don't know if it's just me, but I'm having a couple of issues with images not displaying properly - such as the first image in the [[Furball Run]] article, and the 4th poster in the [[LondonFurs]] article (2012 summer party). Other images, even other ones in the same articles, are displaying ok so I'm not quite sure what's going on... [[User:Bezel|Bezel]] 15:59, 13 February 2013 (EST)

:Yes; these issues appear to affect up to 2/13 of images on WikiFur (and Flayrah/the Yerf Archive). They impact users differently depending on location - for example, I can see all the images you mention, but I am not able to see various other images on [[WikiFur:Gallery (characters)]]. I have a ticket on file with CloudFlare. For now, please proceed as if the images were in place, as they should show up later once the issue is resolved. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 16:13, 13 February 2013 (EST)

== Mellow.yote rename request ==
<pre>{{safesubst:Renameuser
|CURRENT=Mellow.yote
|NEW=Connor.J.Coyote
|REASON=Fursona Name Change
}}</pre> —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Mellow.yote|Mellow.yote]] ([[User talk:Mellow.yote|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Mellow.yote|contribs]]) .
:Sure. Though we don't have that template. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 04:43, 11 March 2013 (EDT)

==Requesting a page lock==
Hi!

I was wondering if my old WikiFur page (http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Elegance_Liberty) could be blocked out/deleted and/or protected, please? Thanks! --[[User:Elegance_Liberty|Elegance Liberty]] 20:23, 23 April 2013 (CST)

:I've noted your request on the attached discussion page, and if there is no objection I will perform an [[WikiFur:Personal exclusion|exclusion]] in 24 hours. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 22:14, 23 April 2013 (EDT)

==Timeline of media coverage==
Nevermind, Higgs Raccoon did it.
Thanks Higgs.

2011 under April I can't see the danish article about furries
Link: http://www.dr.dk/P1/Klubvaerelset/Udsendelser/2011/04/16115910.htm
P1 is a danish radio station run by the state media DR.
The article name = Eng: Cool, nice and naughty furries, dk: Fede, flotte og frække furries
The air time was/is called Klubværelset(eng: Club room)
I was look to add it myself, but it seems a bit to complex for me.
I don't want to accidentally mess up the page.

==2nd request==
When you have time, can you or one of the mods check out the changes I have made to: http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Danish_furries
Will my changes meet the wikifur standards, or do I need to change some of it?!
I want to make it good.

Will it also still need to be marked: ''This article does not cite its references or sources. You can help WikiFur by adding references.'' and ''The use of time in this article lacks definition. Dates should be used instead of words like "today" and "currently".''
:''Replied on talk page''. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 16:46, 4 May 2013 (EDT)

== Oversight ==

Hi, please see [[Talk:Zidonuke]] for an oversight request regarding personal information missed during a previous suppression. [[User:Crashdoom|Crashdoom]] 17:23, 22 May 2013 (EDT)
:Please see [http://en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=Zidonuke&action=historysubmit&diff=403031&oldid=403011 here] for additional recent edits that re-add the removed content. ''I feel like I'm on a merry-go-round.'' [[User:Crashdoom|Crashdoom]] 11:47, 23 May 2013 (EDT)
::Your concern is noted and verified. The article is in temp lock down until the non-appropriate information is removed - [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 11:59, 23 May 2013 (EDT)
::: Question: How does oversight of specific revisions in any way justify full protection of the article? Or are you just, always this heavy handed in a manner which is totally counter productive to the very nature of Wiki's? [[User:Leon Hunter|Leon Hunter]] 13:38, 23 May 2013 (EDT)

== MrFoxyPaws ==

Hi and thanks for your comments:

''It is not necessary to use a qualifier such as "(series)" if there is no ambiguity. That said, I don't disagree with the use in this particular case, because it clarifies that it is a series of works.
Bear in mind that editors may choose to merge articles about creative works back into the article about their creator if there is no evidence that they have a significant following of their own (e.g. through publication). Not saying this will happen, just don't be surprised if you see it. --GreenReaper(talk) 18:24, 25 May 2013 (EDT)''

I created 'Boo and Kye' without (series) but reckoned that in the future it was likely there could be ambiguity over 'Frodo' as somebody may create another character of that name; or, equally, a 'Frodo' page might one day cover my fictional character whereas the (series) one would cover the series. So I kinda hovered between using (series) and not using it.

You're right my stories don't have a large following - is it better for me to try and fold them back now? although i'm not totally sure of the formatting for that. I'm more than happy to have a go. I did wonder about this point. I guess that i thought / hoped the number of stories, and that they are a series (with the cast of characters) would lend them some credibility. Also, they're at least of reasonable quality in terms of grammar and spelling etc because that's an interest of mine, having proof-read a novel for a friend. But i'm new to wikifur so happy to follow the guidelines. [[User:Foxypaws|MrFoxyPaws]]
:I'd say leave it as it is if you're comfortable with it now; if anyone feels the need to merge them later, hopefully they'll deal with it without removing any useful information. We most often do this when there is a true "stub" article that will never be of a significant size, just a few lines, but consistency can be a factor as well. Incidentally, you can sign and date your name in discussions with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 18:56, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

== Request ==

Would you please delete my userpage, [[User:Silver seren]]? It's been a long time since i've contributed here and I don't really have an inclination to at current and I would just prefer if my userpage was removed. Thank you. [[User:Silver seren|Silver]][[User talk:Silver seren|seren]][[Special:Contributions/Silver seren|C]] 06:10, 1 June 2013 (EDT)

:Sure. If you want it back later, let myself or another contributor know. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 16:57, 1 June 2013 (EDT)

== Locking my Page ==

Dear GreenReaper,

I am the original and owner of DiWolfe and the page of (well I didnt make it someone else did) and I would like to see if my page can be blocked from google searches, specifically and what it would take to do so. If not then I would just like the page deleted because I do not want it showing up in google searches.

Please let me know if possible and what to do to prove I am who I am if there are any doubts.

-DiWolfe

:Hi DiWolfe. I don't see a problem with deindexing it, given the current content. I've added a noindex tag. Google seems to be a bit obstinate about removing it from its index currently, but I'll try again in a few hours. (It often takes a couple of days to percolate through, anyway.) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 21:13, 28 June 2013 (EDT)

== New page for Lobocursor Lyceus, HELP! ==

H!

I am new here, somebody made a stub of me here but with wrong information. Trying to be less solitary, I think that maybe I need to correct the page by myself. I just finished so I hope you can check it and approve it or else. My changes do not show in my friends machines but only for me. :(

I hope you can check the page and help me with this. Thank you in advance! :) Pd. this is the page [[Lobocursor_Lyceus]]

-- Lobocursor

:Hi Lobocursor. Thanks for taking the time to contribute to WikiFur! Editors have already had at the article, but here's a few comments:
*[[:File:Lyceus Wikifur.jpg]] doesn't mention who the artist is, which we would like to do. If it is by you, just adding "by himself" is fine.
*We generally don't mention copyright of a character because it is implicit. (Registered trademarks do get mentioned, but more because there is other information that comes with that, and references.)
*The "admin comment" you mentioned in an edit summary was probably an attempt by Spirou to distill your own comment (". . . failed attempt to made a comic strip and novel with them").
*Use of "show preview" and edit summaries for each saved edit are a good idea (we're not always perfect here, either :-).
*You can sign your name and the date on talk pages with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>), or use three for just your name, five for just the date.
Edits are ''meant'' to be visible immediately, but sometimes are cached, especially for visitors. I've cleared the cache of the page on our servers, although it may still not be visible for a few hours at your friends' end. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 04:13, 29 June 2013 (EDT)

==Adding Navbox to the italian Wikifur==
Hello Green Reaper! In order to better sort the pages of the italian Wikifur, I was thinking about adding Navboxes templates under some pages (just like the ones the English Wikifur has under the convention related pages). I've seen, however, that the Navbox template doesn't work unless I install the ParserFunctions extention, which I couldn't install myself (it's way too much for my computer knowledges). Is there a way to make th installation easier, or should it be done by someone else? 
Thanks for your time and patience, and I understand you're at AC now, so I'll wait for your response after your return. :) 
[[User:Valery91Thunder|Valery91Thunder]] 03:11, 4 July 2013 (EDT)
:Hey Valery! [[:it:Speciale:Versione|ParserFunctions is already installed on all instances of WikiFur]], so it should work. Note that we're on a slightly older version so some of the very newest features may not be available. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 12:56, 8 July 2013 (EDT)

== Cannot reset password ==

Hello. This is user bunnyhugger, though I can't prove it. I forgot my password months ago and have been unable to reset it. I have tried numerous times to have a new password sent, but I never receive the email. The email address on file is probably my ameritech.net address, which is an AT&T address. Unfortunately, AT&T likes to go crazy blocking mail from any IPs they consider suspect. My best guess as to why I do not receive the mail is that AT&T has blacklisted wikifur.com. If that isn't it, then I have no idea.

Is there anything I can do to get access to my account back?
[[Special:Contributions/75.7.197.101|75.7.197.101]] 03:16, 10 July 2013 (EDT)

:I have sent instructions to the email address associated with the account from a non-wikifur.com address. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 10:36, 10 July 2013 (EDT)

== Coiltin3 ==

Remove from that member([[Special:Contributions/Coiltin3|Coiltin3]]), or something you can take. Digger [[User:Dokatamaru|'''SHREW''']] 04:54, 16 July 2013 (EDT)
:Done, thank you for letting me know. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 08:17, 16 July 2013 (EDT)

== Request for exclusion... ==

Hi, I'd like to request personal exclusion of both Leam and Adjectivecat. Please see this for more information http://en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Leam

I may not have a full understanding of the ethics or etiquette of wikis, but I know that inaccurate and obsolete information is more harmful than no information.

Thanks! [[User:Leam|Leam]] 03:19, 18 July 2013 (EDT)

:I've noted your request on [[Talk:Adjectivecat]]. [[Leam]] redirects to [[Adjectivecat]] and so will show the same template; unless you meant [[User:Leam]] (which we can delete outright if you wish, as it's a user page). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 11:29, 19 July 2013 (EDT)

::Thanks. If possible, I'd prefer that both [[Leam]] and [[Adjectivecat]] both have the same template and that Leam no longer redirect. Please go ahead and delete [[User:Leam]]. [[User:Leam|Leam]] 18:26, 20 July 2013 (EDT)

::Hi, GR, maybe I was confusing with my last message or there is something holding up my request? But the "same template" I was hoping to apply to Leam and Adjectivecat is the personal exclusion one. I appreciate that one doesn't redirect to the other anymore, but I'd like them both to be excluded from Wikifur. Thanks, and sorry if I was unclear previously. [[User:Leam|Leam]] 20:01, 27 July 2013 (EDT)

:::The articles were both excluded several days ago; however, the cached versions were not cleared. I have done this now and you should see the exclusion notice even if not logged-in. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 20:04, 27 July 2013 (EDT)

== Removal(?) ==

Actually, I didn't?. I was working on Disambiguation pages updates. May I have hit a wrong button,... but I was even near the front page since 19:59 Pacific Time, when I changed the block settings for [[W:RingtailedFox|RingtailedFox]]. I'm going to change passwords tout suite, just in case - [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 23:55, 25 July 2013 (EDT)

== Article removal request ==
I'd like you to remove and exclude further creation and editing the article of [[hu:Tanathy]] because he doesn't want to appear any form on any site, and also let any short of information be shared. Both Hungarian admins Neo_21670 and KékPáfrány was asked previously, but it was only proteced from further editing (without any reason). Thanks for your help.
--[[Special:Contributions/109.61.84.35|109.61.84.35]] 19:58, 26 July 2013 (EDT)
:Hi there. I am aware of this situation; I recently removed protection from the article, and the subject of the article edited it. However, [[WikiFur:Personal exclusion|personal exclusion]] is not a global directive, but specific to those language editions which have decided to use it. I will not enforce the removal of an article over the objections of local editors unless I see a compelling reason to do so. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 20:14, 26 July 2013 (EDT)

== Exclusion Request ==

Hi Green, Requesting exclusion from WikiFur for my article [[Leon Hunter]]. Furthermore I wish to add that should the request be granted, that the previous revision is removed on grounds of privacy. Cheers, [[User:Leon Hunter|Leon Hunter]] 09:55, 31 July 2013 (EDT)

:''Article was excluded.''

== 77.66.252.9 ==

Remove from that [http://ru.wikifur.com/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BB%D1%83%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F:Contributions/77.66.252.9 77.66.252.9]. [[User:Dokatamaru|'''SHREW''']] 09:45, 11 August 2013 (EDT)
:I was away, but it should be dealt with now. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 15:34, 12 August 2013 (EDT)

==Sannse censorship==
:[http://animeslaps.wikia.com/wiki/?diff=4268 I'm afraid I will be closing this wiki at the end of the week. I would suggest that you contact GreenReaper of WikiFur, I know that he has helped with hosting in a similar situation.]

I got [http://animeslaps.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Sannse contacted a week ago] with the threats to shut down my wiki because she's insisting that because I'm documenting instances of slapping in anime and stuff that I must be 'eroticizing' it as some kind of 'fanservice' and that it somehow breaks the Terms of Use. I completely disagree and can't find where the Terms are broken but this doesn't seem to matter as she's not budging and seems intent on bringing down the hammer regardless of how many explanations or offered concessions I make.

She asked I contact you for suggestions on how to retain the wiki so I was wondering if you might know. I know how to Special:Export so but this only appears to cover articles but not the image files I was hosting on them. At this point since so many images haven't even been identified (I just raided a blog post where the creator didn't attribute them to specific series/episodes/characters) they're very important to identifying some unknown scenes.

She mentioned something about bots that could download images from a wiki for us. Would you be familiar with how to do this? If not then I guess I have to get to the manual downloading which sucks. [[User talk:Tyciol|Ty]] 06:50, 13 August 2013 (EDT)
:Hmm. Actually, I don't believe I've ever hosted a migrating wiki, apart of course from [[WikiFur]] itself. The [[Uncyclopedia:Forum:Village Dump|Uncyclopedia crew]] have more recent experience of moving from Wikia hosting and it might be best to ask them what they did. My largest contribution to that was [[MediaWikiWiki:Extension:MediaWikiAuth|MediaWikiAuth]], which lets people login and transfer their account from another wiki (and which should actually work with current versions of MediaWiki after their gentle ministrations). [http://wowpedia.org Wowpedia] also left with a lot of files.
:When it comes to a wiki-specific tool for image transfer, you might want to look at [[MediaWikiWiki:Manual:Pywikipediabot/imagetransfer.py|pywikipediabot's imagetransfer.py]]. I haven't used it but if you can whip up a family file for your wiki and a target instance of MediaWiki to put it onto (several hosts offer turnkey MediaWiki installs), it may work. There are many tools you can use to create an image of a site; I'd suggest trying [http://www.httrack.com/ HTTrack] and see how you go if the image transfer doesn't work out. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 07:54, 13 August 2013 (EDT)

== Reverts ==

The IP that's been editing my page and Seto's really needs blocked, if possible, or our pages locked to logged-in accounts only. I don't really know how wikis work about this kind of thing, but... uh. She's been bothering us for the past few months. Don't need this petty dramz on a public site. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:BlauRascon|BlauRascon]] ([[User talk:BlauRascon|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/BlauRascon|contribs]]) .
:They claim that their edit is a "true fact". Is it? (We don't have to have relationship information there at all, but if it is, it should be accurate.) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 03:41, 1 September 2013 (EDT)
::It is not. We are not in an open relationship, never have been, and never will be. She's bothered us before on other sites, she's just following me here. Either way, just checked her userpage, Spirou's blocked her for a month - that should be enough time for her to lose interest. Thanks so much! --[[User:BlauRascon|BlauRascon]] 17:01, 2 September 2013 (EDT)

== Please remove my article ==
Can you please remove my article - http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Shadowpelt thank you - shadowpelt
:I have noted your request on the [[Talk:Shadowpelt#Exclusion request|attached discussion page]]. Given the page's content, you may need to make a convincing case there as to why it is not in the fandom's best interest to keep the article around. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 08:43, 19 September 2013 (EDT)
::I'd really like to know why I haven't received any response about this situation for over a month now, thank you. - Shadowpelt

== Dead Link Alert ==

http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?GodKing is now dead so I am still not sure what you mean by not being a godking?
http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?BenevolentDictator has also lead to a dead site page —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Jwktrucker|Jwktrucker]] ([[User talk:Jwktrucker|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jwktrucker|contribs]]) .

:They both work here. Perhaps the site was temporarily down. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 13:34, 22 October 2013 (EDT)

== sup ==

Long time no see. Now that Onideus is gone we can spend more time together. [[Special:Contributions/50.23.115.119|50.23.115.119]] 22:19, 13 November 2013 (EST)

== No language interwiki on WikiFur? ==
i'm registrated on english WikiFur but can't switch over to the german version. Why not?
Isn't there a so called Interwiki connection? Do i have to register of a new for the german version? --[[User:Saviour1981|Saviour1981]] 01:20, 27 November 2013 (EST)
:WikiFur does have langauge [[mw:Manual:Interwiki|interwikis]], but does not have [[mw:Extension:CentralAuth|CentralAuth]] or [[mw:Manual:$wgSharedDB|a shared user database]]. You have to register a separate account. If you use the same username and password, it will be automatically linked if we do enable CentralAuth in the future. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 01:24, 27 November 2013 (EST)

== FurrTrax ==

I made some changes further to the FurrTrax page, incorporating a bunch of edits by someone, as i said not a wiki expert, but i like the way it looks now. If its alright with you, i would like to update the page myself as needed once a month, occasionally a user known as foxxer may also make minor changes as needed. The reason i link to staff is so that there is always a life line of contact for those who need help on the site, or if trouble starts either drama related or malfunctions wise, the word can spread quickly, and people can find out who to contact even if they cannot reach the site. Thanks for the time bro.

== Question ==

Just wonder if their is a way to close my user account? [[user:MilitaryAviator]] 19:19EST 26 december 2013
:''Replied on [[User talk:MilitaryAviator]]'' --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 22:13, 26 December 2013 (EST)
::ok thanks again man -[[user:MilitaryAviator]] 22:23 EST 26 december 2013

== Per ==

I would like an exclusion from this site under the user name Ink Stained Rat ( http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Ink_Stained_Rat ) and from any future 'People' articles that may be titled with my alternate fandom name 'Calligraphy.'
:Sure, I've noted your request on the talk page and unless there's any objection it should be [[WikiFur:Personal exclusion|excluded]] a day or so after that. I can redirect Calligraphy to there right away. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 17:02, 31 December 2013 (EST)

== Input requested. ==

Hi Green,

Seems Spirou has gotten involved in an editing dispute where he later used protection and false citations (IE: providing a citation for a fact when the citation is openly stated to be the mere speculation of an individual). I have written a war and peace epic on the topic and would appreciate your guidance, as this kind of behaviour from Spirou is becoming routine much to the dismay of involved editors. [[Talk:Zidonuke]] [[User:Leon Hunter|Leon Hunter]] 22:02, 11 January 2014 (EST)

== furry.it ==

Hello, I am the owner of furry.it domain. I've switched the service from web redirect to dns managment to take advance of the name for other services (ie: have email redirect with @furry.it) and I was wondering if I could someway redirect http://furry.it (or http://wiki.furry.it or http://www.furry.it) to http://it.wikifur.com/ .
(cname or something alike) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:79.46.118.180|79.46.118.180]] ([[User talk:79.46.118.180|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/79.46.118.180|contribs]]) .
:''Dealt with in IRC.'' --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 06:12, 13 February 2014 (EST)

== Becoming a curator ==

What credentials and qualifications would I need to become a curator or a admin of sorts. I wish to contribute and volunteer my services. Thank you. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:69.47.50.187|69.47.50.187]] ([[User talk:69.47.50.187|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/69.47.50.187|contribs]]) .
:Having an account would be a start. WikiFur editors generally become [[WikiFur:Colleagues|colleagues]] after an extended period of editing (in the order of over six months and a thousand edits), such that they become familiar with how the site and that other colleagues can judge their suitability. Most editing can be done by any registered user. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 04:17, 15 March 2014 (EDT)

==File upload problems==

Good evening, I'm having trouble with a file I uploaded [http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/File:Katbox_logo_2.png (this one)]. It had too much whitespace when I uploaded it, but when I cropped it, it came out skewed in the upload. So I uploaded the original again, but then the previous version looked fine, so I reverted, only to have it come out skewed again. Frankly, I'm stumped. Is this something you can fix? I've reverted to the version with too much space for now. -[[User:Captain Video|Captain Video]] 02:11, 15 March 2014 (EDT)

:WikiFur's images are cached and uploading a new one that is a different size under the same name may cause temporary issues because the website is sizing the image appropriately for the current version but your browser is accessing the cached version. I have reverted to the cropped version and cleared all caches relating to that image; it seems to look correct now. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 03:21, 15 March 2014 (EDT)

== hey ==

i heard you were a big deal around here, is this true? --[[User:Likeicare|Likeicare]] 03:31, 15 March 2014 (EDT)

i'm waitin--[[User:Likeicare|Likeicare]] 04:38, 15 March 2014 (EDT)

== XOTW ==

* http://imgur.com/B7usG7D

The Main Page has red links. [[User:Interstellar Shipping & Trading Co.|Interstellar Shipping & Trading Co.]] 03:09, 17 March 2014 (EDT)

:Yes, that tends to happen sometimes. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 03:10, 17 March 2014 (EDT)

:: * en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=Template:WikiFur_Central/Comic_of_the_Week&action=purge
::Do you have a sysop dashboard that you can put onto your userpage? Sometimes I have to purge a page's cache to fix the problems. [[User:Interstellar Shipping & Trading Co.|Interstellar Shipping & Trading Co.]] 03:13, 17 March 2014 (EDT)

:::No, we do not. You have to know the secret incantations yourself! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 03:15, 17 March 2014 (EDT)

* [[WikiFur:Comic of the Week/Week {{#time:W, Y}}|{{#ifexist:WikiFur:Comic of the Week/Week {{#time:W, Y}}|SET|NOT SET}}]]
* [[WikiFur:Comic of the Week/Week {{#time:W, Y|+1 week}}|{{#ifexist:WikiFur:Comic of the Week/Week {{#time:W, Y|+1 week}}|SET|NOT SET}}]]
* [[WikiFur:Comic of the Week/Week {{#time:W, Y|+2 weeks}}|{{#ifexist:WikiFur:Comic of the Week/Week {{#time:W, Y|+2 weeks}}|SET|NOT SET}}]]

Enjoy. [[User:Interstellar Shipping & Trading Co.|Interstellar Shipping & Trading Co.]] 03:33, 17 March 2014 (EDT)

== Hi ==

Hi there,

Thank about the page, Didn't know for sure yet how to do everything.

And the DA page is a mistake with age, I putted 1990 there, but probably something went wrong and since then it's 1989, Even though my real birth is December 17, 1990 ( 23 )

Not sure yet how to change the rest though, Linking the DA, FA and SF page soon too, Could use some help though.

Thank you :)

== RE:Protection of templates ==

If the need to protect templates hasn't presented itself then I'm good with that. [[User:Interstellar Shipping & Trading Co.|Interstellar Shipping & Trading Co.]] 08:40, 19 March 2014 (EDT)

== Comic of the Week ==

Now it is no longer difficult for others to [[WikiFur:Comic of the Week/Candidates|'''locate''']] comics to feature. I'll clean up the mess I made later. Enjoy. [[User:Interstellar Shipping & Trading Co.|Interstellar Shipping & Trading Co.]] 16:39, 22 March 2014 (EDT)
:Thanks. [[User:Interstellar Shipping & Trading Co.|Interstellar Shipping & Trading Co.]] 02:26, 26 March 2014 (EDT)

== Removal of link on page about Nathalie ==

Hi,

I edited the link because I am basically the person the page is about and thelink isn't relevant anymore... I added the page a long time ago and couldn't remeber my original username and password so I had to create a new one. I will add the new link to my artwork once it's live. Thank you and if you have any more question please ask me. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Lioness34|Lioness34]] ([[User talk:Lioness34|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Lioness34|contribs]]) .
:I see! The account in question appears to be "Nato". If you wish to regain access to it, you will have to login with the username and password from when we were on wikia.com; if you cannot remember it, you may reset your password there first, and then login here with that new password. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 07:01, 12 April 2014 (EDT)
::I tried login in on wikia but couldn't remember what email address I had used to join so Icouldn't login and gave up... Is it ok to keepon using this user profile instead? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Lioness34|Lioness34]] ([[User talk:Lioness34|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Lioness34|contribs]]) .
:::Sure, there's no problem with that. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 21:16, 14 April 2014 (EDT)

== Higgs Raccoon ==

<pre>(Deletion log); 10:09 . . Higgs Raccoon (Talk | contribs) deleted "Talking Angela" (Insufficient content/context: two external links and no text do not make an article)</pre>
* [[Special:NewPages|New Pages ({{#time:F j, Y|-7 days}})]]
Could I suggest that administrators wait at least 72 hours before going on a deletion rampage. If it is a crime to leave something in the mainspace unfinished for less than 24 hours then I won't do it again. But elsewhere I personally give people at least 2 weeks to work on stuff. Also instead of clicking the delete button, it would have taken him a couple minutes to convert that into a stub. All I'm saying is a little more effort by the administrators would go a long way to encourage others to contribute. [[User:Interstellar Shipping & Trading Co.|Interstellar Shipping & Trading Co.]] 08:38, 17 April 2014 (EDT)
:Yes, it ''is'' a crime to save a page which is just a couple of links without context. If you are "currently" editing an article, intend to return to it soon, but need to make a save for security purposes or because you're changing location, you should use {{tl|inuse}}.
:Curators are there to help if you have problems, and to help ensure that articles are at a consistent level of quality, not to write entire articles based on a couple of links that you found interesting. If it would have taken another person a couple of minutes to create a stub, it would have taken ''you'' even less to provide the same information. If you don't, we may assume that it's not worth anyone's time, and delete it. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 08:49, 17 April 2014 (EDT)
:: As I said, I wasn't finished. Either way I hope you will seriously consider asking administrators to wait 72 hours before pouncing on newpages. And sometimes dropping a couple links isn't a bad idea, there might be others who are interested in the topic. It appears there was a bit of controversy about Talking Angela and I have been looking to see what, if any, interest there is. [[User:Interstellar Shipping & Trading Co.|Interstellar Shipping & Trading Co.]] 09:05, 17 April 2014 (EDT)

== Personal Exclusion ==

I would the page about me ( [[jwoulf]] ) excluded from Wikifur, and the images associated with my page deleted. I feel I have shared far too much information about myself online. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Germanshepherd|Germanshepherd]] ([[User talk:Germanshepherd|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Germanshepherd|contribs]]) .

:Update: Thank you for excluding the page, this is greatly appreciated. The talk page for my page still contains some of the information from my page though. Is it possible to remove that too? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Germanshepherd|Germanshepherd]] ([[User talk:Germanshepherd|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Germanshepherd|contribs]]) .

::We normally do not remove information posted to talk pages, but given the circumstances, I have removed the information which might normally be subject to our removal of real life information. If you wish to ask our editors to consider the removal of ''all'' the information, you are welcome to do so on the talk page itself. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 08:58, 4 May 2014 (EDT)

== Site is being vandalized ==

http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Nickolas - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 13:22, 24 April 2014 (EDT)

== Closing/Deleting pages ==

Is there any way to have a page deleted from the site? Namely, this one: http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/FIGNUTS!

I don't actually own this fursuit anymore, nor is the character relevant. I'm just wondering.

Thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Fignuts2|Fignuts2]] ([[User talk:Fignuts2|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Fignuts2|contribs]]) .

:Sorry for the delay - I thought I'd done so earlier, but apparently that got sucked into the void. What we'd normally do is merge this into the article about the owner, but we don't know who that is, soo . . . I'm just going to merge it into the article about its creator, [[Soki Twopaw]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 04:39, 15 July 2014 (EDT)

== Remove Requests ==

Please remove Dodger Wolfe Fang and Dodger Fang off of Google and other search engines please and delete the accounts also please because they're no longer used. I don't want my character's name be in search results from this site please. Thank you and take care.

http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/User:Dodger_Fang

http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/User_talk:Dodger_Wolfe_Fang

Dodger
:''User pages were deleted.'' --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 15:39, 24 May 2014 (EDT)

== More flag icons please ! ==

Hello there,

Ahh, the annual "update the ConFuzzled entry" stage has arrived, and I find we're missing a few country flags - specifically Chile, the Faroe Islands, Malaysia, Singapore and South Africa. Would it be possible to add them, so the ConFuzzled 2014 article can look all pretty and snazzy and shiny ? Thanks :) [[User:Bezel|Bezel]] 17:19, 16 May 2014 (EDT)

:''Handled by [[User:Higgs Raccoon|Higgs Raccoon]] (thanks!).''

== I wanted JeremyDragon article removed ==

Because I have moved on to a new sona and name. Please? Im begging for the article to be removed in place for my new sona? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:JeremyDragon|JeremyDragon]] ([[User talk:JeremyDragon|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/JeremyDragon|contribs]]) .
:I'll take this as a request for [[WikiFur:Personal exclusion|exclusion]]. The FA page is no more. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 15:38, 24 May 2014 (EDT)

==[[User:Sawblade5/Hawk]]==

Is there any reason why the hawk article was moved to this user name? I almost moved it back, but upon checking the page history, the reason isn't clear (at least to ''me'' that is) --[[User:Tai 1|Tai 1]] 2014/05/25 (UTC)
:The article was [http://en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=Hawk&action=edit&redlink=1 deleted for being unreferenced]. A copy was moved to Sawblade's user space because they asked for it. Also, it didn't have any furry-specific content; we'd prefer to link to [[Wikipedia:Hawk|Hawk on Wikipedia]] in such cases. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 20:14, 25 May 2014 (EDT)
But it appears in the Species stub pages, also you could say that about a lot of species related articles. I'm all for restoring it, and someone (maybe me?) would properly work on it…just saying…--[[User:Tai 1|Tai 1]] 20:25 2014/05/25 (UTC)
:We do say it for a lot of species-related articles! Frankly, we should probably say it for more - you're welcome to nominate similar stubs for deletion. If you would like to recreate the article with content actually ''relevant'' to furry fandom (like famous anthropomorphic hawk characters in art and literature, discrimination against hawks in fursuit games, etc.), you're welcome to do that, too. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 20:38, 25 May 2014 (EDT)
::Well played =^.^= OK cool…I'll try something, it might end up like the [[exoskeleton]] one. --[[User:Tai 1|Tai 1]] 20:49 2014/05/25 (UTC)

== Special:SpecialPages error (other administrators welcome to help as GreenReaper is away) ==

I am getting [[:File:Specialpageserror.png|this page]] every time I try to access [[Special:SpecialPages]] via the link in WikiFur's sidebar. I uh, know nothing about what that garbled wall of text means, but I thought I'd let you know in case it is a problem with the site itself. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] - [[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 03:33, 1 June 2014 (EDT)
:This was due to a [https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62568 bug in an extension]. I have worked around it for now. Thanks for the noice! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 13:30, 1 June 2014 (EDT)
<pre> Fatal error: Call to undefined method SpecialPage::SpecialPage() in /usr/local/www/wikifur/prod/extensions/Irc/SpecialIrc_body.php on line 13</pre>
No you don't! [[User:Interstellar Shipping & Trading Co.|Interstellar Shipping & Trading Co.]] ([[User talk:Interstellar Shipping & Trading Co.|talk]]) 11:22, 6 June 2014 (EDT)
:Yes, it broke again with 1.23! Good times. I fixed this but the underlying Java applet is broken so I've just removed it entirely. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 11:39, 6 June 2014 (EDT)

== Changing reference link ==

Hello there!

I just discovered my WikiFur page (Zaria Melody) and I noticed that one of my reference links goes to my personal Twitter page using my real name, which I kinda don't want :P

So I was able to change my direct link to my twitter account that I use for my fursona, but I don't know how to get the reference changed so it stops going to my personal account.

Can you please help me? :3

Thanks! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:162.157.117.136|162.157.117.136]] ([[User talk:162.157.117.136|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/162.157.117.136|contribs]]) .

:Hi there! The Twitter account is the reference for the fact of where you live. If we remove it, the fact is unsupported, which is not ideal. So, there are two choices: a) find or make another reference for that information, or b) remove or replace that information (say, with "Canada", for which we could reuse the deviantART reference or your other Twitter account). You seem to be fine [https://twitter.com/Zaria_Fluff/statuses/482108460981448705 mentioning it] on that account, so maybe you should just update the location information on it. Also, you should probably update your FA account if you do not wish that Twitter account to be seen by furries, as it links to it. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 18:48, 26 June 2014 (EDT)

== Disabling account ==
Hi, I was looking for a way to disable or delete my accoubnt, but I can't seem to find one. Can you help? [[User:VineFynn|Account disabled]] ([[User talk:VineFynn|talk]]) 17:43, 28 July 2014 (EDT)
:We usually don't for copyright purposes, but given that your only contribution is here, I can do that. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 01:13, 29 July 2014 (EDT)

== previews ==

Can I ask if you're using an extension for the [http://imgur.com/rqXbdPo previews] or is that built into the latest MediaWiki? Thanks. [[User:Interstellar Shipping & Trading Co.|Interstellar Shipping & Trading Co.]] ([[User talk:Interstellar Shipping & Trading Co.|talk]]) 12:00, 3 August 2014 (EDT)

:It's an improved version of [[mw:Extension:prettyPhoto|prettyPhoto]]. I put in a few days of effort into fixing bugs and handling our interwiki setup, and that's not yet represented in the current version - it should probably be moved to the MediaWiki core repository for further improvement. I tested Wikimedia's own lightbox/media viewer, but per the [http://wikifur.livejournal.com/96171.html update notice] we're not using it - we don't have their needs, nor their templates (which it relies on for details), and many users dislike it. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 13:03, 3 August 2014 (EDT)

Thanks, I appreciate it. As for the declining editing activity, you where I stand on that. I think if we relaxed the rules and were less like Wikipedia it might help. [[User:Interstellar Shipping & Trading Co.|Interstellar Shipping & Trading Co.]] ([[User talk:Interstellar Shipping & Trading Co.|talk]]) 13:30, 3 August 2014 (EDT)

:We've come a long way with our current policies. Above all we need to be compassionate, flexible, and communicative about their implementation. It's very easy to start off on the wrong foot, and if there is a failure in understanding on one side - or both - it can lead to unnecessary problems.

:If there is understanding, but not acceptance, that's another matter. Some things are up for debate, but WikiFur is never going to be a free-for-all. (Few successful sites are.) We have tens of thousands of articles, now, and some level of consistency between them is important. Achieving it without treading on too many toes is an important skill for curators to master.

:The decline in contributions appears to be general. People spend more time on social media and less time contributing to group projects. Some sites (such as Wikia) have responded by making editing into more of a game, but I'd prefer to avoid this, as it encourages an "edits over quality" mindset. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 01:20, 4 August 2014 (EDT)

== Special:RecentChanges ==

You should add a link to the irc channel to [[Special:RecentChanges]] because [[User:Interstellar_Shipping_%26_Trading_Co.|some]] people are lazy. [[User:Interstellar Shipping & Trading Co.|Interstellar Shipping & Trading Co.]] ([[User talk:Interstellar Shipping & Trading Co.|talk]]) 13:12, 9 September 2014 (EDT)
:To the RC bot? It's not working right now for some reason (probably ISP filtering). Should set it up on a proper server. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 16:38, 1 October 2014 (EDT)

== Special:BookSources add OpenLibrary? ==

Wandered across [[Special:BookSources]] and wondered about maybe adding OpenLibrary to BookSources. --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] ([[User talk:EarthFurst|talk]]) 20:12, 13 September 2014 (EDT)
:Can be done by creating [[WikiFur:Book sources]], similar to [[W:Wikipedia:Book sources]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 16:37, 1 October 2014 (EDT)

== I need some updated to my WikiFur entry! ==

Well, it's been awhile since it ever got any updates with the current stuff i'd been doing since 2011. [I'd done 3 gallery pieces for Conan O'Brien and TBS. And even got included in the CONAN ART HALL OF FAME.]

I am still doing fuzzy-art off-and-on! [It's been incorporated in my CONAN art.]

But you folks have helped me in the past. So I am holding out a bit of hope that you can help me out now!

I forgot my old account stuff because it's been so long since I used it here. So I had to sign up for a new account over here.

Well, I thought about it when James Hardiman passed away recently. I thought, I am still alive and here and doing some art still. Sure it's been a struggle a lot of times! But I guess I am doing the best that I can.

But I guess I am still here to tell the tale! My email is still mickmoart[at]yahoo[dot]com

So yeah, I wanted to get an update on my stuff...even after Radio Comix and all of that! :D

Thank you so much for helping me.

http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Mickmo

:If you have the same email address, you should be able to reset your password for the account "Mickmo" at //wikia.com (use the temporary password to set a new permanent one), and then use that username and password here. I'm afraid right now I don't have much time to edit individual articles, but you're welcome to contribute updates yourself, or point out specific things which could do with updates or sources for them on the [[Talk:Mickmo|relevant discussion page]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 16:31, 1 October 2014 (EDT)

== Request of possible change on policy ==

Request, if possible, for confirmation that third party individuals (not family or legal representative) can request and be granted exclusion for main article users, when said user is still active/non-decesased or incapacitated. First encounter of this type of exclusion example has led to an embarrassing case of mistaken identity (ergo the ban on the [incorrect] user).

Confirmation that this is now current policy will be welcome on future requests for exclusion. Any information will be appreciated. - [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] ([[User talk:Spirou|talk]]) 17:42, 27 September 2014 (EDT)
:I didn't do it on that basis, I did it on the basis of the tweet made from the Twitter account linked in the article. That's why I linked it on the [[Talk:Lucian the Otter|relevant talk page]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 17:45, 27 September 2014 (EDT)
::Understood. Explanation by secondary editor indicated further family/legal non-relation to user, just a concerned party starting the ball rolling. Apologies have been given for the mistake and ban. - [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] ([[User talk:Spirou|talk]]) 17:59, 27 September 2014 (EDT)
:::I was going to inform you to disregard the email related to the (now) closed subject, but AT&T just bounced it back (efficiency!). - [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] ([[User talk:Spirou|talk]]) 19:23, 27 September 2014 (EDT)
::::Your words, undelivered! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 19:37, 27 September 2014 (EDT)

== Personal exclusion ==

Hey
Could you please remove me from Wikifur?
Thanks —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Laini|Laini]] ([[User talk:Laini|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Laini|contribs]]) .

:I've noted your request on the [[Talk:Laini|relevant talk page]] - assuming there is no objection, I'll proceed after 24 hours. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 09:04, 11 October 2014 (EDT)

== Another Exclusion ==

Hi, I'd like to be removed and noindex'd from Wikifur please! I'm no longer part of the fandom and I'd like to have my page deleted. Thankyou! - [[User:Nox Darkpaw|Nox Darkpaw]]
:OK. As above! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 11:18, 13 October 2014 (EDT)

== [[Interstellar Shipping & Trading Co.]] ==

Some guy just deleted a people page I put time and effort into writing without any sort of warning or consensus. It was an endearing, factual article about a friend of mine which was intelligent and well-written, and in my opinion up to WikiFur standards. I don't understand why anything which may have posed as a problem wasn't simply removed instead of the entire page being rudely deleted.

Could you please have a look at the deleted page and point out any issues to me so that the article may exist and my effort won't go to waste? [[User:Brian vermin|Brian vermin]] ([[User talk:Brian vermin|talk]]) 23:54, 13 October 2014 (EDT)

:Hey GR, thought it'd be fair to link you to [[User_talk:Brian_vermin#Interstellar_Shipping_.26_Trading_Co._article|a similar discussion]] between this user and Spirou.
:As for you, Brian vermin, you are currently violating [[WikiFur:Consensus|WikiFur's consensus policy]]:
{{quote|While it is appropriate to call attention to an issue, it may be considered inappropriate to frequently and repeatedly do so, or to post about the issue in multiple forums and talk pages at once. Those who are interested in the issue will likely find it on their own, and it is generally not advisable to act as the town crier, shouting in the public square. Any announcements that you make must also be written from a neutral point of view, with an intent to call attention to the discussion, not to sway it.}}
:As well as ignoring the [[WikiFur:Speedy deletion|Speedy deletion policy]]:
{{quote|Short articles that serve no purpose but to disparage their subject ("insult pages", e.g., "OMFG! Allison is a l0ser n00bface lolol!!!11").}}
:If you would seriously like your article to be reinstated, it will likely need more context and a neutral point of view. --[[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] - [[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 01:10, 14 October 2014 (EDT)

::I understand what you outlined in the first policy, and I only directed this conversation to GR because Spirou clearly has an unfair bias regarding the situation due to his obvious hatred of Encyclopedia Dramatica, and I feel there won't be any use attempting to explain anything to him because of it. I can respect that someone doesn't share the website's sense of humor, but I feel he needs to be mature and respect the work of others instead of jump the gun and pull the plug on anything that mentions the site due to his personal vendetta.

::As for the second part, my article in no way read like an attack article or some unfunny "ZOMG wut a loser" example that you provided. If the article were still fully visible, you would be able to see that it in fact is very well-written and informative, and Spirou had only plucked a few select pieces related to ED to attempt to brand it as an attack article, which it was not.

::How can I even improve upon the article when everything I wrote was deleted? [[User:Brian vermin|Brian vermin]] ([[User talk:Brian vermin|talk]]) 01:21, 14 October 2014 (EDT)

Just wanted to say thanks for hearing me out on this issue, it was appreciated. You're alright in my book, I don't care what my home wiki says about ya. :> [[User:Brian vermin|Brian vermin]] ([[User talk:Brian vermin|talk]]) 10:13, 14 October 2014 (EDT)

== Email bounce (Re IOS 8/MediaWiki) ==

Hello Green;

Emails sent via the Wiki internal link to your addy keep bouncing back to my inbox. The subject is '''Wikifur, IOS 8, MediaWiki format issues'''. - [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] ([[User talk:Spirou|talk]]) 17:16, 28 October 2014 (EDT)

:Hmm. Maybe they think you're spam, or WikiFur is? Try sending it directly to my nickname @ hotmail.com? --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 04:34, 29 October 2014 (EDT)

:::No, not going through still, even changing OSes and platforms, will figure out. Just the shortened version of it, then: Apple IOS 8 has an issue with MediaWiki than has some users experimenting some problems on Apple devices (selection, cut and paste, etc,...) or even accessing their accounts. Just an FYI on it, don't know if MediaWiki (needed patch?) or an issue with the latest IOS release. - [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] ([[User talk:Spirou|talk]]) 16:19, 29 October 2014 (EDT)

::::Odd! Is this for WikiFur? Using the mobile interface (which we're not, but should be), or the regular one? We just updated to the latest MediaWiki, which had no patch relating to this issue. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 17:45, 29 October 2014 (EDT)

:::::MediaWiki powered sites, yes, and the regular desktop site displayed on Safari on a iPad 2/3/Air and iPhone 4/5/5s/6/6 plus,... But if you are not aware of an issue, being up to date with the software, the issues people that people are experimenting (no only acquaintances) must be relate to IOS 8/8.1, Safari or a mix (haven't tried editing Wikifur via an Android tablet/phone yet). Already have logged a support ticket via Apple about this problem. Just checking if you knew of any issues regarding this. Thanks for the heads up. - [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] ([[User talk:Spirou|talk]]) 22:14, 29 October 2014 (EDT)

::::::We are up-to-date with the latest official releases (just applied one last night); however Wikimedia sites such as MediaWiki use an even later development version where new features are tested, so it's possible that something broke there which will be fixed soon. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 05:43, 30 October 2014 (EDT)

== Request for exclusion 2014-11-13 ==
Dear GreenReaper,

Please delete the article about Hector_MoD and anything linking to it. Thanks on beforehand.

Kind regards,

- The artist formerly known as Hector_MoD

:Hi FormerlyKnownAsHector_MoD. We require positive identification for personal exclusion. Normally we use fandom accounts for this, but none are listed on [[Hector_MoD]]. Perhaps you could login using your [[User:Hector_MoD|Hector_MoD]] account and make an edit here? --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 19:14, 12 November 2014 (EST)

== Hey Mr. P. ==

I wandered into your wiki again following the trail of some ''vermin'' and thought I'd say hi. I was wondering if you'd ever feel like playing another [http://www.chesspastebin.com/2014/03/28/greenreaperlp-ludwiglinkermann-by-linky/ game of chess] with me. [[User:OtterWhiskers|OtterWhiskers]] ([[User talk:OtterWhiskers|talk]]) 21:15, 12 November 2014 (EST)

:It might happen someday, but this week is not a good time as I'm rather busy elsewhere. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 21:26, 12 November 2014 (EST)

::All right. Whenever you're up for it. I've been improving myself in my spare time, so the same thing won't happen again in the opening. [[User:OtterWhiskers|OtterWhiskers]] ([[User talk:OtterWhiskers|talk]]) 22:12, 12 November 2014 (EST)

== Replace text (503 error) ==

Trying to move <nowiki>[[Spunky]]</nowiki> to <nowiki>[[Spunky (artist)|Spunky]]</nowiki> using '''Replace text'''. Getting a 503 error (first time feature delivers this error). - [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] ([[User talk:Spirou|talk]]) 15:46, 17 December 2014 (EST)
:...And the moment I hit '''Save page''' here, it goes through... >.< - [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] ([[User talk:Spirou|talk]]) 15:48, 17 December 2014 (EST)

== User creation ==

Is there anything we can add to the user creation/registration process that wouldn't be much of an inconvenience for real persons but which would trip up spammers/bots? Something like a captcha or an e-mail validation, maybe? There have been more than a hundred new accounts registered in the last two days, enough to clutter up the recent changes quite a bit, and all but a few of them were blocked as expected or confirmed spammer accounts. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] ([[User talk:Mwalimu|talk]]) 16:40, 2 March 2015 (EST)

:We have always had a captcha (the math puzzle, which is custom for WikiFur, and usually works better than ReCAPTCHA), as well as other defenses against automated editing. However, over time, spammers tend to degrade these. I'll be looking at this once I've slept. Requiring an authenticated email address is an option, but it would prevent anonymous editors, which I'd hope to avoid if possible. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 19:50, 2 March 2015 (EST)

::Is there a way for an admin like me to see what IP addresses were used to create these accounts? If so, I could look through these for any patterns or ranges that could be dealt with using range blocks. I don't expect this would stop all of the spammer accounts, but it might allow us to take out a significant fraction of them. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] ([[User talk:Mwalimu|talk]]) 11:43, 4 March 2015 (EST)

:::You now have access to [[Special:CheckUser]] which should provide you access to this information. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 13:35, 4 March 2015 (EST)

::::All right, I've been running CheckUser on confirmed spammers for about three days now, and have added a few range blocks . One thing I've discovered, however, is that blocking a spammer is not automatically blocking the IP address they used, and within those few days there are some IP addresses that have been repeat offenders. If it's supposed to block the IP, it's not working. Is that something that can be looked into? --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] ([[User talk:Mwalimu|talk]]) 13:11, 6 March 2015 (EST)

:::::Automatic blocks (used if the option to block their IP address is ticks) take action, by default, [[mw:Manual:$wgAutoblockExpiry|for a day]]. That may not be long enough. I will increase it to two weeks. Nowadays it should unblock the IP address if you unblock the person involved. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 13:29, 6 March 2015 (EST)

::::::A day might be long enough for the majority of vandals but it seems much too short for dealing with spammers. I'm using 1 year for the range blocks I've been applying; let me know if you think that's too long (or too short). IP blocks get reassigned, and I have to be especially conservative about blocking wider ranges below /24 (the absolute lowest I'll go is /16 and it might not allow me to go any lower). It's tempting to throw up a /24 block on every spammer IP but I probably won't go that far. As I told Equivamp below, we should be careful not to overblock IPs of potential legitimate users. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] ([[User talk:Mwalimu|talk]]) 13:44, 6 March 2015 (EST)

::::When blocking spammers, could you please select 'Confirmed spammer' as the block reason? That greatly simplifies my task of figuring out which blocked users are spammers for whom I should run checkuser and potentially place an IP range block. Thanks. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] ([[User talk:Mwalimu|talk]]) 14:09, 5 August 2015 (EDT)

===IP range blocking===

I certainly hope that starts to work. Certainly something needs to be done about [[Special:BlockList|this]] and [[Special:Log/delete|this]]; if it doesn't, what are some alternatives? This is cluttering the [[Special:RecentChanges|Recent Changes]] and, honestly, bringing the general productivity of the admins down--any time we devote to the wiki is spent blocking and deleting spam.

How does Wikipedia handle things like this? --[[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] - [[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 20:46, 4 March 2015 (EST)

:What I'm finding so far is that spammers use a lot of different IPs. There are some discernible blocks of IP addresses that can be range blocked, but range blocks will probably only catch half of them on a good day. I have to be careful not to block an overly broad range, as that would run the risk of blocking potential legitimate users. I'm also checkusering only the confirmed spammers, not expected spammers, because with the latter I have to assume there's a slight chance they're a legitimate user (it happens; I had one contact me on FA a couple of weeks ago). To your last question, I'm not sure; maybe GR know more, or you could ask over there. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] ([[User talk:Mwalimu|talk]]) 13:11, 6 March 2015 (EST)

:Wikipedia has custom checks, lots of people watching for spammers, and makes heavy use of [[mw:Extension:AbuseFilter|AbuseFilter]] - unfortunately I am not privy to their exact filter settings - as well as the layers of protection which we already have, including most of the standard [[mw:Manual:Combating spam|spam combat techniques]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 13:36, 6 March 2015 (EST)

===Account spamming===
Are there any other admins besides me (and of course yourself) who have CheckUser authority? I haven't always been very active on WikiFur for the last couple of years, and as I'm sure you're aware we had a problem with account spamming. Recently I've resumed running CheckUser and adding IP range blocks, which has helped a lot, but now I'm concerned that if I don't visit WikiFur for a few days the account spamming I'll have a lot of cleanup to do when I check in again, and the problem would get steadily worse the longer I'm away. Thus I'm thinking it would be better if there were other admins who have CheckUser authority and know how to use it.

Other questions related to this:
# On a couple of recent days, there have been something like 50 accounts created from the same IP address. Would it be possible to limit how many new accounts can be created from the same IP address per day to no more than one or two?
# I'd be happy to create a page with instructions how I use CheckUser to come up with range blocks, but I'd be uncomfortable with the page being publicly viewable, since it might give away information that spammers could use to evade blocks. Is there a way to make a page viewable to admins only?
# Can we throttle the rate of edits, particularly for new accounts? We've had at least one recent instance of a bot account vandalizing dozens of articles per minute. (A feature to revert all recent edits by one user in one fell swoop would also be helpful in dealing with type of situation.)
Thanks, and cheers! --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] ([[User talk:Mwalimu|talk]]) 14:00, 27 February 2022 (EST)

==Page Removal==
Please remove this page http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Doxy please let me know what to do to prove i'm onta. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Ontahb|Ontahb]] ([[User talk:Ontahb|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ontahb|contribs]]) .

:As your email is authenticated and the one listed on FA, there is nothing else you need to do. I will note your request on the talk page attached to the article and proceed according to our [[WikiFur:Personal exclusion|personal exclusion policy]] unless there is an objection within the next day or so. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 12:18, 22 March 2015 (EDT)

== PNG/JPG thumb ==

Shared object "libicui18n.so.53" not found, required by "libglib-2.0.so.0"

[http://ru.wikifur.com/wiki/Cats_Don't_Dance Файлы] не получают миниатюры для новых файлов (старые миниатюры в кэше). [[User:Dokatamaru|'''SHREW''']] 06:51, 25 April 2015 (EDT)

:Thank you; I have added some symlinks for now and will rebuild the affected modules. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 18:27, 25 April 2015 (EDT)
:: See [http://ru.wikifur.com/wiki/Файл:MIB_S1E07_-_The_Symbiote_Syndrome.mkv_000049.297.png MIB_S1E07_-_The Symbiote_Syndrome.mkv_000049.297.png] [[User:Dokatamaru|'''SHREW''']] 20:26, 5 May 2015 (EDT)
:::Yeah, that's pretty weird. Don't know why. Maybe the .mkv in the middle? --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 21:28, 5 May 2015 (EDT)
:::: Нет, не из-за имени. Я сейчас подумал может с Интернетом было чтото плохое... Файл какойто битый был (хотя я не представяю как это могут делать программы. Ведь должно быть журналирование). Обновил файл, всё хорошо. [[User:Dokatamaru|'''SHREW''']] 21:40, 5 May 2015 (EDT)

== Ressurrect Mix ==

Bwahahaha! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:2605:6000:EA45:1A00:6481:45A6:465C:463C|2605:6000:EA45:1A00:6481:45A6:465C:463C]] ([[User talk:2605:6000:EA45:1A00:6481:45A6:465C:463C|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/2605:6000:EA45:1A00:6481:45A6:465C:463C|contribs]]) .

:That's nice, but you're not actually [[Special:Login|logged in]]. If you're having trouble, try using http: rather than https:. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 10:46, 3 May 2015 (EDT)

== Stub tags ==

If I am adding a stub template to an article, where should I put it? Should it go beneath the main text and above the references/external links, like I did at ''[[Guardian Angel]]'', or beneath all that, like at [[Alfa Fox]]? --[[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] - [[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 16:51, 10 May 2015 (EDT)
:I'd suggest below everything, at least if you're using that template, as the external links are still part of the article. We also have {{tl|Section-stub}}, which would go at the end of a section. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 16:53, 10 May 2015 (EDT)

== i have a question ==

I was wondering if my best friend could use the furries in her book? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Swag girl69|Swag girl69]] ([[User talk:Swag girl69|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Swag girl69|contribs]]) .

:It's not quite clear what you mean by this - if you want to use a specific piece of artwork or furry character, you would have to contact its creator as they are the copyright-holder. If you want to talk about furries in general, I don't think anyone is going to stop your friend. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 19:04, 13 May 2015 (EDT)

== Even more flag icons please ==

Hi,

Yes, the annual "update the ConFuzzled entry" stage has come round again, and we're missing a few more country flags - specifically Bulgaria, Hong Kong and Latvia. Would it be possible to add them for the ConFuzzled 2015 article. Thanks :) [[User:Bezel|Bezel]] ([[User talk:Bezel|talk]]) 10:05, 20 May 2015 (EDT)

== Exclusion Request ==

Please exclude the [[Zen Tulku]] page. Request related to privacy and the accuracy of information included in the database. [[User:Zentulku|Zentulku]] ([[User talk:Zentulku|talk]]) 20:55, 11 June 2015 (EDT)

== thank you. http worked ==

Thank you for suggesting http. Logging in using http worked. (Trying to login with https still doesn't work). Sorry for not thanking you via IRC, but was away from computers for evening. --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] ([[User talk:EarthFurst|talk]]) 02:17, 19 July 2015 (EDT)

== Incoming DM via Fur Affinity ==

From [[user:Fuzzlemuzzle|Fuzzlemuzzle]] in regard to [[Shredwolf]] and his rl name. If it's possible, I have no visible means or permission to do what he is asking for. Just FYI. - [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] ([[User talk:Spirou|talk]]) 02:41, 3 August 2015 (EDT)

==On Minor Edits==
Ah…I see. It's just that I've never gotten flak for doing that before. [[User:Tai 1|Tai 1]] ([[User talk:Tai 1|talk]]) 20:48, 14 August 2015 (EDT)

== Thank you ==

Coding for me is hard. XD —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:LadyNightosphere|LadyNightosphere]] ([[User talk:LadyNightosphere|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/LadyNightosphere|contribs]]) .
:It's OK, we all had to learn it at one point. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 18:21, 23 September 2015 (EDT)

== Flag for Taiwan (Republic of China) ==

Can we get Taiwan's flag added to the flag template for [[Infurnity]]? Thanks!
The country code is TW [[User:Skippyfox|skippyfox]] ([[User talk:Skippyfox|talk]]) 12:44, 29 October 2015 (EDT)
:It looks like [[User:Higgs Raccoon|Higgs]] has [http://en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki%3ACommon.css&diff=458864&oldid=449796 made this happen] (as 'twn'). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 09:45, 3 November 2015 (EST)

== Hey ya green ==

I think I fixed it... so if I have then ignore this

I noticed my websites Page (Fluffywaddles) was vandalized (and someone with the power to protect the page did a revision and locked the page with the vandalism still on there) The owner says "Pol Pot" instead of Spirit Silverwind, this change was made by a ip 69.55.193.129 then Spirou came did a minor edit which doesn't seem to remove the "Pol Pot", Which should be Spirit Silverwind

I don't mind the page being locked and in-fact I recommend it, but could it at least be locked with the correct information :)?

Thanks! for your time.

== I wish to remove my character from Wikifur ==

Hello,I was wondering if http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/CoyotlNelli can be deleted? The user is no longer in the furry fandom. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Coyote 89|Coyote 89]] ([[User talk:Coyote 89|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Coyote 89|contribs]]) .

:It seems to have been created by [[User:CoyotlNelli]] - are you able to log into that account to confirm your identity? Or use the FA account linked on [[CoyotlNelli]] page to send a note to me on FA? --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 04:01, 1 December 2015 (EST)

== Hiding an edit ==

Today I wanted to hide an edit but couldn't figure out how. Can you fill me in? Or is that a higher admin privelege only? (The edit in question is to [[SoFurry]] with a timestamp of 13:53 today.) --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] ([[User talk:Mwalimu|talk]]) 16:16, 11 December 2015 (EST)
:It requires bureaucrat status. I've hidden the edit in question. Thanks for the heads-up! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 16:21, 11 December 2015 (EST)

== Name merging ==

Hi, just letting you know I got my password reset and I'm back to this one. They can be merged now to TwitchDaWoof. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:TwitchDaWoof|TwitchDaWoof]] ([[User talk:TwitchDaWoof|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TwitchDaWoof|contribs]]) .
:Cool, I've done that now. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 20:41, 15 December 2015 (EST)

== Infobox Convention ==

Regarding http://en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=Template:Infobox_convention,

I'm curious your thoughts on changing the the convention infobox line for "final" to either be renamed "last", or an additional line for "last" be added.

"Last" would allow ongoing conventions to list a more recent date than their first date, but still allow conventions which no longer exist to list a final date.

I would also like to see a line added for "next", but I honestly don't know if that adds as much value.

--[[User:Woody|Woody]] ([[User talk:Woody|talk]]) 12:39, 14 January 2016 (EST)

:Hmm! My thoughts on this:
:* The initial goal of this field was to indicate both that a convention has ended. As you say, "Final" is inappropriate for a running convention.
:* The word "Last" has a similar implication to "Final". "Latest" (or "Most recent") might be more suitable. When a convention is determined to have ended, "Latest" would be converted to "Final".
:* Infoboxes should be accurate, like the rest of the article. "Final" is easy enough because it is possible to determine when a series of conventions has ended; but it may be up to a year after. "Latest" could be updated immediately; but it also becomes inaccurate every year.
:Overall I'm in favour of your idea… bearing in mind the caveat that someone will have to update every article using it on an annual basis. (Of course, there may be other updates needed in any case, such as to a list list of convention instances.)
:I think "next" is more suitably presented in the lede; it's the first place the reader looks, and likely to be of more immediate use than when the convention ''has'' occurred. Not having this in the infobox would be a good way of avoiding duplication of that information. When the convention is over, the date currently in the lede can be moved to the new infobox field. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 13:42, 14 January 2016 (EST)

== Brazilian events ==

You're welcome.
Count on me for anything you need from Brazilian fandom.

Greetings,
Danny

== Thanks ==

Thank you for your welcome. Let me know if you want any help about Chinese furry fandom :3 --'''[[User:Snowkylin|SnowKylin]]'''（[[Wikipedia:zh:User:Snowkylin|Li]]|[[User talk:Snowkylin|Sn]]|[[Special:Contributions/Snowkylin|Δ''H'']]） 03:42, 2 March 2016 (EST)

== Spammer IP range blocks ==

Hi. Just wanted to give you a heads-up that we've reached the one-year anniversary of when I started running checkuser and imposing spammer IP range blocks. That means those blocks are going to start expiring and we may see an uptick in spam traffic if spammers are still using some of those IP addresses, which I will reblock as needed. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] ([[User talk:Mwalimu|talk]]) 12:42, 7 March 2016 (EST)
:I think they rotate through various hosts, but feel free to block for longer if you see a repeat instance. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 12:48, 7 March 2016 (EST)

== Email Change ==

Hi, I changed my email address (in both accounts: english and portuguese), but even after hours, I didn't receive any of the confirmations. What can I do?--[[User:AmyFoxx|AmyFoxx]] ([[User talk:AmyFoxx|talk]]) 09:56, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

:This is due to a configuration issue with the WikiFur server. I will try to fix this today, but it will need coordination with [[Timduru]]. Manually enabling your change on our end will not help because your own server is refusing to accept the mail. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 10:08, 10 March 2016 (EST)

== OGV video ==

[[:ru:ВикиФур:Портал_сообщества#Разрешённый тип файла OGV|OGV]]. No online viewing. Probably WikiFur does not convert WEBM format. Or browsers are not familiar with the container OGV. [[User:Dokatamaru|'''SHREW''']] 12:39, 30 March 2016 (EDT)
* [[:ru:Файл:Pistol_(Goof_Troop_RUS)_20160330_191828.ogv]] is MPEG-4 video and MP3 audio in a OGG container. Many browsers support video in OGG container, but only with Theora video / Vorbis audio. --[[User:Kakurady|Kakurady]] ([[User talk:Kakurady|talk]]) 17:46, 30 March 2016 (EDT)

== Requesting Page Deletion and Exclusion ==

Hey,

Was wondering the the page on me could be deleted. I already made a post about this at the help desk but I figured I would reach out directly as I am really keen on getting it down. I would also be interested in having personal exclusion applied to me because, again, I am pretty big on personal Internet privacy. I don't want a stupid thing I did in middle school without a grasp of what an internet footprint was, as well as the subsequent addition of even more information by people who probably mean well, biting me in the ass.

I jumped through quite a few hoops to get back onto this original account from way back when I made the page initially. If you want me to contact you by email as well to make doubly sure let me know.

Massive thanks ahead of time,
Glitch

:Sorry I didn't reply to this - was ill, and then distracted by other matters - but it looks like the other staff had my back. :-p --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 17:51, 25 June 2016 (EDT)

== Requesting a page delete/exclusion ==

A group of old friends made this page - [[TD666]] - relating to an old persona I had a long time ago, and at the time I let it slide; but it's a pointless article and no longer holds any relevance or purpose, and I'd rather it wasn't there given it also links to some places that can be used to personally identify people who would probably rather they didn't. Would you mind seeing it deleted and/or hidden?

Thanks in advance. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:86.150.212.23|86.150.212.23]] ([[User talk:86.150.212.23|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/86.150.212.23|contribs]]) .

:I've sent a note requesting confirmation of this request to the [https://www.furaffinity.net/user/td666/ FA account in question], as the domain linked is now down. Note that due to recent issues, access to the FA account may require a password reset - if that is not possible, accounts@furaffinity.net can probably help. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 17:49, 25 June 2016 (EDT)

== UC Davis survey ==
UNP -17: 2016-5/31
[http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Forum:NEW_furry_survey! The information you pulled from a site in 2007]
May I have the demographics for it, I am conducting research dating anywhere from 1981 to 2008 before any real info existed. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:168.169.96.7|168.169.96.7]] ([[User talk:168.169.96.7|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/168.169.96.7|contribs]]) .

:You should probably [https://www.flayrah.com/2792/uc-davis-posts-furry-survey-results have a look over here] for more details - maybe you can talk with the people who created the survey. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 17:57, 25 June 2016 (EDT)

== Protecting templates ==
Hi,
The hungarian wiki has some templates in use, whis aren't protected of future vandalism. Can I ask you to protect them?
Those are listed on [[:hu:User:Wikivandal|Wikivandal's]] user page. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:85.66.28.83|85.66.28.83]] ([[User talk:85.66.28.83|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/85.66.28.83|contribs]]) .

:I have set these to autoconfirmed users only. I'm hesitant to go any further, as there doesn't seem to have been ''any;; vandalism thus far, and generally speaking it's a bad idea to pre-emptively protect as that blocks others from editing. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 18:03, 25 June 2016 (EDT)

:: That's fine, this level of protection is way enough, thank you.--[[Special:Contributions/85.66.28.83|85.66.28.83]] 12:27, 26 June 2016 (EDT)

== About Changes ==

I know i probably said this already but I like my username renamed to JeremyShapeshifter or JereHusky due to an FA user already under JHusky. Also I like to rebuild Jeremy Dragon article into Jeremy Shapeshifter. I'm sorry if I sent this message already, but I felt like I missed the subject/headline. :(

=="Norns aren't Aryan"==
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOYB0R49620

Yer famous. :P —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:107.170.203.43|107.170.203.43]] ([[User talk:107.170.203.43|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/107.170.203.43|contribs]]) .

:Indeed, I was aware. Next you know, I'll be getting invited onto talk shows! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 18:40, 12 July 2016 (EDT)

== Removal of page request ==

Hi there. My page is intermittently the subject of anonymous vandalism. Rather than creating more work for you guys, I think it might be easier if I just request its deletion. I hardly think I'm important enough that I need to be on WikiFur, although I am important enough to be attacked apparently.

http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Marko_the_Rat

:I can start [[WikiFur:Personal exclusion|that process]] if you want, but if anonymous vandalism is the problem, wouldn't it make more sense just to protect it from that? We typically do protect pages if that's an issue, and I can see it's been done before. Apparently just not for long enough. I've put it in for six months to start with. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 18:55, 18 July 2016 (EDT)

::Seeing as they're too lazy to create a burner account, that would work too, at least for six months. We can revisit it then. Thanks.--[[User:Marko|marko]] ([[User talk:Marko|talk]]) 19:25, 18 July 2016 (EDT)

Are you also able to lock my user page and talk page? As you can see the anonymous cowards have taken to there instead. It's kind of flattering in a way that I'm so important to someone but also sad to see them replying to their own fake questions. [[User:Marko|marko]] ([[User talk:Marko|talk]])

:Sure, that seems justified in the circumstances, at least to prevent those who don't have established accounts on the site. If you don't want the existing talk there, you can remove it; it's under your control. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 19:29, 17 September 2016 (EDT)

::That was quick! Thank you. I figured there's no point giving them the attention while it's unlocked but I will clean it up now. It's just an annoyance really. [[User:Marko|marko]] ([[User talk:Marko|talk]]) 19:34, 17 September 2016 (EDT)

== Please delete this page ==

It has outdated, personal and info i need removed asap...
I made a post on the help forum with no reply and am in need of it gone please!

This is the page: http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Aaron_Folf

Please respond via email if possible... I dont know how to respond further here
~aaron

EDIT

gained access and want the page removed ASAP

:''This and the bit below was handled by [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]].''

== Delete my page (again) ==

Tried multiple times to get my page taken down,
Please take my page down linked here: http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Aaron_Folf
--[[User:AaronFolf|_Gone_]] ([[User talk:AaronFolf|talk]]) 02:58, 17 August 2016 (EDT)Aaron Folf

== Tower Page Delete ==

Hello

Can you please delete this page?

http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Tower

Thanks

Ractus

== Tower Page Delete ==

Hello

Can you please delete this page?

http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Tower

Thanks

Ractus

== Error message ==

Do you know why I'm experiencing [http://i.imgur.com/m1uUl4H.png this error message] when I access any Category pages on WikiFur? --[[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] - [[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 21:12, 12 December 2016 (EST)
:I'm also getting [http://pastebin.com/ZbHAbb16 this] when trying to create an article. --[[User:V. CA|V. CA]] ([[User talk:V. CA|talk]]) 01:09, 13 December 2016 (EST)

Well, it would appear that whatever the issue was, I'm no longer experiencing it. --[[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] - [[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 16:42, 13 December 2016 (EST)

:This was likely triggered by a incorrectly-cached error page. I restarted Varnish a few hours ago and it seemed to resolve the issue. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 16:46, 13 December 2016 (EST)

== delete ==

Please delete my page lindsey dearnley. I don't create fantasy art anymore, none of my links are active, and I'm not part of this community. I never gave permission for my information to be on here, and I want it removed, it is not relevant to the art I create.

:Your DeviantArt profile appears to both [http://lindseydearnley.deviantart.com/art/Wolf-Furry-642775781 be active and posting fantasy art], but that's not necessary for [[WikiFur:PE|exclusion]]. Do you mind posting a journal entry on your deviantart to verify your identity? --[[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] - [[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 19:10, 20 December 2016 (EST)

==Thanks==
Thank you for helping me edit pages. It means alot.

== Thanks! ==
Thanks for reverting that little "edit" back to my revision :) --[[User:FrostTheFox|FrostTheFox]] ([[User talk:FrostTheFox|talk]]) 21:19, 5 January 2017 (EST)

== Hey, thanks for what you did! ==

As I don't have rollback privileges, I could not rollback to a more SFW version of my 'sona page. Is there any was for me to get rollback privileges or...?

== Hey, thanks for what you did! ==

As I don't have rollback privileges, I could not rollback to a more SFW version of my 'sona page. Is there any was for me to get rollback privileges or...?

== Indefinite IP blocks ==

Please don't use indefinite IP blocks on IP addresses used for [[Wikipedia:Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol|DHCP pools]], as it may inadvertently block other users after the need for the block has passed. Even for servers, IP addresses may change hands, but it happens on a near-daily basis for addresses used for IPv4 addresses shared by DSL and mobile subscribers. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 11:01, 5 February 2017 (EST)

:I'll keep that in mind, but I'll admit I don't really know how to check that. --[[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] - [[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 22:13, 6 February 2017 (EST)

::You ''can'' just search for the IP address and click links until you get to a whois result for that IP address, but if you want to be more precise, go to https://apps.db.ripe.net/search/ and select "Search resource objects in all available databases", then enter the address into the query box (not the one at the top right) and hit "Search". That should give you the full address block which that address was allocated from (as "route") and the organization responsible for it. You can usually find out fairly quickly whether it's an residential ISP or a server host by searching on the name. If it's ''clearly'' a server, it might be worth blocking the entire block for a year, because we shouldn't have edits from servers. If it's an ISP - and it's actually necessary to block, not just revert and warn - block the individual IP address for hours/days/weeks as appropriate. If that doesn't work, try moving up to the IP range block(s) [e.g. "1.2.3.4/23") they used as identified by the query results, but I'd suggest only blocking for a few days/weeks unless absolutely necessary because others using those IP addresses won't be able to edit - that can be up to 65536 addresses per block for a /16. Also, be aware that a range-block message will be shown to anyone from that range who clicks "edit", not just the person who caused the range to be banned. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 23:01, 6 February 2017 (EST)

:Oh, also: the person who was threatening to DDOS the site posted a video of themself killing a mouse "for" me. There was a tank with other live mice in the background. --[[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] - [[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 22:13, 6 February 2017 (EST)

::Well, it's nice to know you're worth killing a few mice over? Or maybe it's just a fake video they have a system to make for lots of people. Either way, they're gonna do what they're gonna do. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 23:01, 6 February 2017 (EST)

== Merging User ==
Thanks for merging my old account, I couldn't remember if mediawiki allowed for straight up deletion of accounts/merging, I should've just asked, but thanks anyway! --[[User:FrostTheFox|FrostTheFox]] ([[User talk:FrostTheFox|talk]]) 21:05, 12 February 2017 (EST)
:There's an extension for it, and you're welcome! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 21:06, 12 February 2017 (EST)

==Persian Wikifur==
Dear GrenReaper, your fellow "Higgs Raccoon" said that I should ask you about the processes of a new Wikifur "fa.wikifur.com" language.
I would like to know how is it possible and what is needed.[[User:Kooshy|Kooshy]] ([[User talk:Kooshy|talk]]) 18:21, 5 March 2017 (EST)

== Nukeshi ==

Hello!

I was wondering if you could delete the page about me. http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Nukeshi
I'd rather keep the information on it private- which is kind of hard since it shows up when you google my username.

If you need verification, my deviantart is Nukeshi. You can note me if you'd like, or email me at bijoux.erbes@gmail.com

== A "New" Furry ==

Hello sir. I am a "new"furry and am curious if the rumor is tru that furries sometimes use actual fur for their fursuits. I am realy anti-fur and would second think joining and supporting this fandom if ever. Thanks nonetheless Greenreaper.

== Updating an old article (also hello!) ==

Hey GreenReaper, long time no speak!

After some five years on hiatus from the fandom I've opted to start making my return. Whilst it's probably not smart to jump right back into adminning on WikiFur (and don't worry, I'm not), I think it would be a nice start to update [[Alexander Grey|my very own article]] with five years of changes. I'm bringing this up to you because a *lot* of stuff has changed on my end, including my legal name and gender identity. Additionally, the actual Alexander Grey has been demoted to being one of a roster of characters rather than a fursona, so I'd probably be moving the article elsewhere too given it's regarding a person and not a character. Similarly, I'd probably remove a lot of content regarding character history, evolution, etc. to refocus it on just myself as an individual.

If you've no problem with any of that, cool! Otherwise, how're you doing? {{:User:AlexanderGrey/sig}} 15:36, 10 May 2017 (EDT)

== Personal exclusion request ==

I would like to have both the WikiFur article about me blanked and, if possible, my WikiFur account deleted. --[[User:Sage Freehaven|Sage Freehaven]] ([[User talk:Sage Freehaven|talk]]) 01:43, 30 May 2017 (EDT)

:Point of keeping/save and start an article with the phrase "[[Goddammit, Freehaven]]" (part of furry lore/notable)/ - [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] ([[User talk:Spirou|talk]]) 17:21, 30 May 2017 (EDT)

::I would hardly refer to myself—or that particular phrase—as “notable”. --[[User:Sage Freehaven|Sage Freehaven]] ([[User talk:Sage Freehaven|talk]]) 21:08, 30 May 2017 (EDT)

== YouTube video linking ==

Attempting to link timed segment of [[ConFuzzled 2017]] convention closing ceremony video, relating to [[ConFuzzled 2018]] theme from Convention's own YouTube channel, but blocked by spam filter.
Possible to allow additions of such links to enhance the media content of pages from verified users/convention staff/crew?

"The following text is what triggered our spam filter: youtu.be/dAyvLoFjXqY?t=33m5s"{{unsigned|Axle}}

:I whitelisted it and was able to add it as a reference to the 2018 article. Added an embedded version of it to the 2017 article as well for kicks. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 19:13, 13 July 2017 (EDT)

== Sorry! ==

Sorry about that, new to wiki and still trying to figure it all out. I still dunno how to add
http://www.poconorecord.com/news/20170710/woman-charged-with-sex-with-minor
to the references list of that article o.o —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Tehanonfurreh|Tehanonfurreh]] ([[User talk:Tehanonfurreh|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tehanonfurreh|contribs]]) .
:You probably want to look at they grey-highlighted example in [[mediawikiwiki:Extension:Cite#Usage]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 19:43, 13 July 2017 (EDT)

== [[Project X: Love Potion Disaster|PXLPD]] ==

Уважаема пътница!

Моля, посочете тежък причина за анулирането на промените от участниците "[[User:EvilCat|EC]]".

Довиждане! Александро Демидов, маркетинговен директор "Метростар Гамес България" ЕООД (упълномочен офис "Metro-Star Europe" ООД).

Dear psngr, give a good reason of edit rejection provided by [[User:EvilCat|EvilCat]]!

Goodbye, Alexandro Demidoff Metrostar Games Bulgaria Limited marketing specialist ("Metrostar Europe A.Ş." authorized representative office). [[Special:Contributions/46.72.17.181|46.72.17.181]] 06:21, 13 August 2017 (EDT)

== Help? ==
Would appreciate if you could reply [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_talk:MediaWikiAuth here]. --[[User:JunkThrowaway|JunkThrowaway]] ([[User talk:JunkThrowaway|talk]]) 13:45, 25 August 2017 (EDT)

Would still appreciate a response, no matter how big/small, for the meantime. --[[User:JunkThrowaway|JunkThrowaway]] ([[User talk:JunkThrowaway|talk]]) 21:52, 28 August 2017 (EDT)

== [Request] Delete Account - Delete Article ==

Hello GreenReaper, I'd love to completly delete my stuff here, on Wikifur please.

I did only 1 article here and it's non-existant character anymore and I'd love to get my account deleted too.

If I need to browse on Wikifur, I'll do it as a guest.

Thank you for reading me and hopefuly you can complete my request, I'd really appreciate that.

== Useless page? ==

How do I have a wiki page about me deleted? I'm really not that interesting. User: Rizzell

Hello greenreaper,

There seems to be someone making harassing remarks and false statements on the oggywolf page. I've left them for now, but wanted to bring them to your attention.

== Name Change ==

Hihi.. I'd like to do a name change for my page, "Harvest Coyote".. You can Telegram me @HarvestSnowpaw or hangouts harvestcoyote@gmail.com to verify.. Thanks.. {{unsigned|107.77.76.87}}
: I've moved the page, identity confirmed via the Flickr account previously listed on the article. --[[User:FrostTheFox|FrostTheFox]] ([[User talk:FrostTheFox|talk]]) 00:04, 26 February 2018 (EST)

== Rollback ==

Hey there, I’d like to request rollback privileges if I could. A lot of my work here stems from RC Patrol, and there’s been a couple cases of multi edit vandalism that I’ve fixed using the normal undo and copying an old revision. I feel like I have a good grasp now of what is clear vandalism. Now a days if I’m unsure about whether something should be reverted or not I err on the side of caution and leave it to someone more experienced or ask on the article talk page. —[[User:FrostTheFox|FrostTheFox]] ([[User_talk:FrostTheFox|talk]]) 17:41, 18 March 2018 (EDT)

== Delete Request ==

Heya, I had created a page for myself a long time ago as opposed to just making an account info page. http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Deretto_Eevee
If possible I'd like to have the page removed because it's grossly out of date. If you'd like to confirm my identity you're welcome to message me on (Deretto) on Inkbunny or twitter. --[[User:Deretto|Deretto]] ([[User talk:Deretto|talk]]) 02:25, 22 March 2018 (EDT)

== Requesting page removal ==

I don’t know if you’ve received my email, but a few days ago, I asked for the page “Kizuna-P” to be deleted. I’m getting frustrated that still no one is taking action about this. Please remove the page as soon as possible.

== Kialfu ==

Kill [http://ru.wikifur.com/wiki/Служебная:Свежие_правки it Kialfu]! [[User:Dokatamaru|'''SHREW''']] 16:34, 30 May 2018 (EDT)

PS, already OK. --[[User:Dokatamaru|'''SHREW''']] 00:24, 31 May 2018 (EDT)

== Request For Personal Exclusion ==

Hello,

Please exclude the following page entry about me from WikiFur: http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Darmon_C._Thornton

The reasons for exclusion are for personal privacy and career/professional concerns, as I've been informed that the article is the fourth link related to my name on a Google search. I left furry fandom in 2002 and I've had no involvement since. I don't hate furries, and no longer have any interests in the fandom itself. Please reply to me via email at [Darmon DOT Thornton AT Gmail DOT com] should you need to contact me for verification.

Sincerely,

Darmon Thornton

== Request Removal of Phrixus page ==

I used the email page to try and contact you but have heard nothing. I realize this is not your job, but I figured the SPF record might have had a thing or two to say about it. Regardless, I would like the article of Phrixus removed from the wiki, and I no longer have the email associated with the old account that created it.

== Vandalism - Wild North ==

Please can you block the IP address of the account which keeps vandalising the Wild North page? 150.143.34.190
: Taken care of. --[[User:FrostTheFox|FrostTheFox]] ([[User_talk:FrostTheFox|talk]]) 18:47, 2 October 2018 (EDT)
Unfortunately the vandalism is continuing. Please can we keep to the version as of 13.16 on 3 Oct, and lock the page for editing?
: I've blocked the latest IP addresses, I unfortunately can't protect pages, but I would recommend to any curator reading to go ahead and temp protect the page for a bit at least to registered users, as the vandals are switching IPs. --[[User:FrostTheFox|FrostTheFox]] ([[User_talk:FrostTheFox|talk]]) 19:11, 3 October 2018 (EDT)

== Deleting a profile of myself set up by an old partner. ==

Hi there, I'd like to remove my page and any mention of me which was set up by my ex partner many years ago. http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/AK
being a closet fur I feel the information could be harmful to me if friends or family ever found out.

Kind Regards, AK —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Ak-akita|Ak-akita]] ([[User talk:Ak-akita|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ak-akita|contribs]]) .

:[[WikiFur:Personal exclusion|Personal exclusion]] requires confirmation of identity, so I've sent a PM to the UKfur forum account (the only account remaining active) and will await a reply there. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 14:42, 15 October 2018 (EDT)

==[[LupoWuff]] article==
I tried reverting a malicious edit but there seem to be more of such edits in the body of the article that I can't seem to correct. [[User:Tai 1|Tai 1]] ([[User talk:Tai 1|talk]]) 19:49, 2 December 2018 (EST)

== Account Spamming ==

Heya, normally I'd ask on IRC but due to server OS reinstall I haven't set my IRC bouncer back up. Have we ran a CheckUser on the accounts being mass created recently? I'm just wondering if they're all in a similar IP range we can block or if they're all random. --[[User:FrostTheFox|FrostTheFox]] ([[User_talk:FrostTheFox|talk]]) 01:24, 24 January 2019 (EST)

== Guidance ==

Could you please check if what [[popufur|I did]] was right? signed by [[User:NesavaHara|Nesava Hara]] on: 19:00, 19 March 2019 (EDT)

== Revision deletion ==

The [[Saph]] article needs revisions deleted, as somebody has added their dox. I couldn't work out how to do it myself. [[User:V. CA|V. CA]] ([[User talk:V. CA|talk]]) 04:06, 29 March 2019 (EDT)
:Thanks for letting me know - and yeah, [[Special:ListGroupRights#bureaucrat|Hiding specific revisions (deleterevision) requires bureaucrat status]]. Deleting the whole article is an option, but only in an emergency. I've hidden the offending revisions. Some information might be seen as relevant, but it's hard to imagine that the justification for holding an address and phone number outweighed the potential for harassment, and when accompanied by suggestions to do so . . . --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 15:48, 29 March 2019 (EDT)

== Hello! ==

Hi! Can I ask for administration tools? --[[User:EOG|EOG]] ([[User talk:EOG|talk]]) 06:28, 31 July 2019 (EDT)

== Zaxtor Znort ==

Hi, this is Grizzguy, a new editor. I must inform you that Zaxtor Znort, real name Cedric Lutes, passed away on June 25, 2019, and since it seems you protected his page indefinitely and only autoconfirmed users can edit it, I feel the need to contact you and update his Wikifur to account for this unfortunate but necessary news. It's important Wikifur is aware of the sad fate that has recently befallen him. --[[User:Grizzguy|Grizzguy]] 01:04, 25 August 2019 (PDT)

== I would like to change my email ==

is there anyway I can contact you? --[[User:Draph91|Draph91]] ([[User talk:Draph91|talk]]) 02:58, 6 September 2019 (EDT)

== Not receiving wiki email ==

I did not receive a password reset email for my previous account or a confirmation email for this one. I think this is due to a problem on the server end, and I understand you have something to do with running the server. I noticed a similar complaint under [[#Email Change]] -- am I running into the same problem, or did it come back after being fixed?

I also noticed that the "Add new topic" inputs on the forums create pages beginning with "Forum:Forum:". Something between the <createbox> tags needs to be changed, but I couldn't tell you what. [[User:Walkingcat|Walkingcat]] ([[User talk:Walkingcat|talk]]) 20:45, 20 September 2019 (EDT)

== New Account - editing old entries. ==

Hi, I just created a new account here, because I am wanting to update some pages I created years ago. Those pages, specifically, are https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Sashi and https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Myrla.
Can anyone edit these pages or is that restricted to the original creator? To that end, how could I get those pages tied to my new account as the creator of those pages?

== I'd like personal exclusion ==

Hello I'm koobahcoon and would like the page Koobah Coon taken down? Thank you!

== Some trolls keep editing my page so i have to fix it. ==

'''PLEASE'''
i beg of you. my names brifnar bear or briffy d. and i have my own wiki page but it keeps getting vandalized and you can go through my history to see me do the edits to fix it which ive noted in the edit summary. if you need further proof i can provide screenshots to you.

they changed things like ''chief of news'' to ''lap dog'' and other vile things like this and frankly im sick of it. i was hoping you could lock my page so only me and other admins can edit it. please help me. i have a small following of fans and i believe im starting to become a target

== Since we are on the subject (long time coming query) ==

* '''deviantART''', '''DeviantART''', or '''DeviantArt'''?.
* '''SoFurry''' or '''Sofurry'''?.
* '''Furaffinity''', '''FurAffinity''', or '''Fur Affinity'''?.
* '''Livejournal''' or '''LiveJournal'''?.

There are hundreds of edits with all these combinations, with some users and Curators using different variations on articles across the years. - [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] ([[User talk:Spirou|talk]]) 23:25, 22 January 2020 (EST)
:Already trying to correct two of the indicated names ([[Inkbunny]] and [[YouTube]]/[[YouTuber]]), but as you probably have noted, the initial replacement for Inkbunny is taking way too too long to change (at this rate, days) compared with years past tries, which took minutes. YouTuber is not appearing after “replace name” prompt, and YouTube just plain fails with two different errors.

:Any suggestions?. - [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] ([[User talk:Spirou|talk]]) 19:07, 23 January 2020 (EST)

== Please remove this page about me ==

Hello, I was made aware some years ago that a page was made about me when I was part of the fandom with my full DOB and residential information about me. At the time I asked if it could be (and tried to have it) removed it and in the end it was agreed to at least remove my full DOB (which I still don't know how whoever posted this got).

I'd like to just have the whole page removed if possible. I never wanted this and it really freaks me out to this day that someone made this page. All the related links are dead or non existent and I would rather not have this pop up every time someone googles my old usernames. (this happened recently) The page in question is the one below. Please refer to the fact that all the related accounts/references don't exist any longer.
Page in question:
https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Keretceres

Thank you for your consideration

== Email change request ==

Hello. I recently created this account and accidentally input an email that doesn't exist and tried to change that only to find that wikifur doesn't allow this for users who own the account. I want my email changed, but I don't want to give it out publicly. [[User:Mavrabeast|Mavrabeast]] ([[User talk:Mavrabeast|talk]]) 14:28, 19 February 2020 (EST)

== Request of personal exclusion ==

Hi, this is AlirezaTM

I don't want to be involved in the fandom anymore, and I wanted to ask you to please delete my page at https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Alirezatm
and lock it

You can contact me on my FA account if you want proof: https://www.furaffinity.net/user/alirezatm/
This account is on my wikifur page too

Thanks a lot!

== Page take-down request ==

Hi there! My name is Conner Teters (Also known as Raenoke). A long while back I created a page about myself ( https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Conner_Teters ), and now that I've grown older and have learned JUST how much information I have allowed to be put onto it, I would like to kindly ask for it to be taken down. There is just too much personal information about myself there, and I have tried to take it down before, but it gets reverted each time by your antiraid bots. Thank you very much for your time. If you have any questions for or would like to get in contact with me, please email me at connergteters@gmail.com.

== Page take-down request ==

Hi there! My name is Conner Teters (Also known as Raenoke). A long while back I created a page about myself ( https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Conner_Teters ), and now that I've grown older and have learned JUST how much information I have allowed to be put onto it, I would like to kindly ask for it to be taken down. There is just too much personal information about myself there, and I have tried to take it down before, but it gets reverted each time by your antiraid bots. Thank you very much for your time. If you have any questions for or would like to get in contact with me, please email me at connergteters@gmail.com.

== Want to delete for privacy. Am Larathen. ==

Hi, I'm Larathen. I want my wikifur page to be removed. Thank you.

== Request for Full Exclusion ==

I request Full Exclusion for [[Coyo]] under the Private Information Policy. [[User:Coyotama|Coyotama]] ([[User talk:Coyotama|talk]]) 11:55, 4 May 2020 (EDT)

== Email? ==

Forgive me for asking, but when will we be able to set our own emails again? If not, then how can we request it to be changed?
Many thanks, --[[User:SonicFish|SonicFish]] ([[User talk:SonicFish|talk]]) 10:26, 27 May 2020 (EDT)

== Larathen requesting my own page to be deleted. ==

Hello, I'm requesting that my wikifur page https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Larathen to be completely removed. My email at the time is dlkvincent@yahoo.com that is currently no longer in service, and my current email is candycornrhino88@gmail.com.

Please and thank you.

== Would you mind removing my accounts? ==

Hi there, Foxen here...I'd like to have the article of "Foxen B. Perry" removed and not be apart of your site any longer simply because it's outdated and people are using it to harass me and it contains my birthday and old location in the United States. I've also changed and become more of a private person and gone into therapy and afraid my therapist will come across my old drawings and have been doing everything I can to remove everything until further notice. I created the Wiki when I was still pretty young and dumb and didn't realize it would attract so much attention.

Also if you could remove the accounts of "Foxen1985" and "FoxenBPerry80s" I'd love that too..I do not want anything too personal up online any longer... you have my private email address on file I think?

I do apologize if this comes off as a little rude... I'm just wanted to be more of a private person.. please and thank you and have a wonderful day :)

== Removal request ==
I am requesting removal of the article about me, https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Fuzzwolf --[[User:FuzzWolf|FuzzWolf]] ([[User talk:FuzzWolf|talk]]) 21:56, 5 October 2020 (EDT)

== Request a Page Removal ==

Hi! A few years ago I made a page called [[Aaron Foxx]], but it has been updated by other users to contain information such as my real name; due to the new direction I have taken with independent work online, I would like to request that this page be removed, since it no longer reflects my current projects or work. Thank you for your time! - Aaron

== Email and note about Ledger talk page ==

I added a comment to [[WikiFur talk:Ledger]], but I'm not sure if anyone is watching that page at the moment.
Essentially, I'm wondering if there are any plans to update the Ledger in the future.
I also sent you an email about it a couple months ago, but didn't hear back.
I don't really know where the best place to put this is, so I'll try here.
[[User:TheDocTrier|TheDocTrier]] ([[User talk:TheDocTrier|talk]]) 13:18, 21 October 2020 (EDT)

== Account delete request ==

Hello there GreenReaper, if it is possible I would like to have my own account deleted / removed from Wikifur?

I no longer wish to have an active account for Wikifur, which is why I want to get rid of it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Sweetie The Protogen|Sweetie The Protogen]] ([[User talk:Sweetie The Protogen|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Sweetie The Protogen|contribs]]) 10:07, 27 October 2020 .

: related to above deletion request (I assume this backstory is related): [https://en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:EarthFurst&diff=next&oldid=530247 Sweetie posted a long "Complaint against (Spirou)..."] to my Talk page, but they deleted that complaint 24hours later. --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] ([[User talk:EarthFurst|talk]]) 20:04, 10 November 2020 (EST)

== Deleting Outdated Page- Please ==

Hello - I would like https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Kylie_Mart deleted as it contains outdated information and I'd like my legal name removed from this website. thank you!

== get rid article please and thank you. ==

Hi GreenRepaer, names luke kropla, and i am from washington state as you can tell by my ip address. I uhh am sorry that i do not have a wikifur account or anything, and i would like to have this article deleted please, cuz, i do not like having my information spread across. please and thank you so much, sincerely, luke kropla.
https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Kropla

== Hi, I want my wiki-fur Account to be Deleted! ==

I'm no longer using Account Sarivr Husky for main more Important to Move on.
so, If Possible Delete my Account Please. Thank You.

it's been great experience with this side of wiki things.

--Sarivr Husky

== TLS/SSL/HTTPS Fail ==

This is major fail in 2021:

https://www.cloudflare.com/diagnostic-center/?url=wikifur.com

All the links everywhere link to https://[lang].wikifur.com/[resource]

This kills the browsing. One has to manually edit the url in the location bar to remove \'s\' from the initial \'https\', or install some kind of rule-based URL redirection extension, and make a custom rule. Bad.

Please use one of the many ways of getting an SSL cert, easily and quickly, for free. You won\'t need to go farther than these :

https://letsencrypt.org/
https://www.cloudflare.com/ssl/

== Removal Zypher and Zypher.png ==

Hello there. I changed my fursona name to Zyphron and would like to get Zypher removed.
Is it possible to rename Zypher.png to Zypron.png? Thanks.

== Page exclusion request ==

Hi there, I made my wikifur page years ago, I'm now trying to clean up my online presence a bit and would like my page to be excluded please. https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Droc_Guidera

== Set an email adress ==

Heya GreenReaper,

I would like to add an email address to my WikiFur account, but the page told me to contact you because of how the website is set up. Any response would be appreciated, thanks!

== Page removal ==

Hello there,

If possible, I'd like to request the removal of my page: https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Natbob

Turns out my friend made a page for me years ago, without my knowledge or consent, and I'd really rather not have personal information shared like that... any chance it could be removed?

Many thanks,

== Re-vamp of WikiFur:Templates/User_Page_Templates ==

I was looking for website templates and found this whole section rather overwhelming. Since I created a new template (for Flickr) and found out there was already one for Weasyl, I decided to try organizing the User Page Templates a bit. However, since I'm not sure if that's supposed to be protected or not, I did a mockup in my [[User:GingerM/Sandbox|sanbox]]. If you like it, I can cut-n-paste the whole thing into the Templates/User_Page_Templates page. I may have a look at the other template sub-pages and see if they need organizing as well. [[GingerM]] ([[User_talk:GingerM|Leave me a message]]) 17:56, 30 April 2021 (EDT)

== Personal Information Removal ==

Hello,

If you could remove all info from https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Valmir_Aker I would really appreciate it. I have left the fandom for my own personal reasons and need all information including past rl info deleted. Thank You.

== I am under attack online and need my wikifur page removed promptly. It's being used as ammo against me. ==

Hello. I am Charem, the one who https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Charem is written about.

This page is both severely outdated and severely unprofessional. Also, I'm currently under attack on other websites and this page and what's on it is being used as ammo against me further.

I made an edit removing most of the information and asking for page closure to immediately remove this legitimate problem, but a staff member reverted the page back to how it was before and insisted I contact a creator. So here I am.

I would appreciate my page simply being blanked/closed for the time being, until I can update it more thoroughly. I really hope this request can be responded-to quickly. Thank you.

If my identity needs to be proven, please contact me at any of my known contacts and I can verify this request.
== Page Deletion Request, Connor J. Coyote ==
Hello.... (just putting a reminder note on your talk page, if helpful) - but, please note - I recently placed a request on the help page, (located here): https://en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=Forum:Forum:Page_Deletion_Request&t=20210613043521

And thus, when someone gets some time - I'd like to request the removal, (and deletion) of my Fursona page, (located here, please): https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Connor_J._Coyote - (and all of its history, removed as well); as - I will no longer be using this name anymore, (going forward); and thus - the information within this page (I created) is no longer accurate, and relevant now.

(The wikifur account associated with the page, can also be closed as well, please).

Thanks for your time. [[User:Connor.J.Coyote]] [[User:Connor.J.Coyote|Connor.J.Coyote]] ([[User talk:Connor.J.Coyote|talk]]) 03:30, 14 June 2021 (EDT)

==Username not registered but also not available==

Hello, I am trying to register/recover the username Manawolf (I am this person: https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Manawolf ). When I try to register this username the system says it is not available, BUT ALSO when I try to recover the password it says the account doesn't exist. Since I have no account I guess I'll check back here for updates :) Thanks! [[Special:Contributions/2600:1700:8C41:C400:6C6C:E671:58BF:1DE3|2600:1700:8C41:C400:6C6C:E671:58BF:1DE3]] 15:16, 14 June 2021 (EDT)
==Proposed 'spammer' tag for informal patrollers to use==
I've noticed a fair number of spam articles of late so I've created a template to mark them as such, since I am not an admin (nor do I wish to become one! :D). My thought is that this gives other editors a way to quickly mark a spam article / spamming user for curators to take a look at if deletion and/or blocking is needed. The template is <nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:Spammer|Spammer]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki>. I'm putting this suggestion to each of the curators; I hope this is a useful tool. If not, feel free to delete it. [[GingerM]] ([[User_talk:GingerM|Leave me a message]]) 19:28, 16 July 2021 (EDT)

== Svenska WikiFur ==

[http://www.wikilurv.se/ Swedish WikiFur] showing error '''Internt fel''' "Fatal exception of type MWException". I found the interwiki [[Bernard Doove|here]]. The HTTPS protocol is also not available… --[[User:Dokatamaru|'''SHREW''']] 07:54, 2 August 2021 (EDT)

== Page removal please green ==

Hi green names Felix and i go by my new username as ArnoldJr. I need some help. I had this article for a long time since 2013 and i am not too intrigued by it anymore, has been making me feel really anxious and not convinced and i would like it to be removed please. Thank you, I hope you understand on what I've meant. https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Lucus

== Personal Exlusion ==

I'm demanding the exclusion of all information and pages related to myself.

Scardykat, Scardy Kat, Kat Drakon, Bongo, BongoKat.

https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Kat_Drakon
:I handled this request. --[[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] - [[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 22:48, 16 September 2021 (EDT)
== Page Removal ==

I would like to have my page perminently removed and to be excluded from this wiki, for MintzBuck.

https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/MintzBuck
:I handled this request. --[[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] - [[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 22:48, 16 September 2021 (EDT)

== Updating email address ==

Hello. I'd like to update the email address on my account (username RunningRed). The existing one is no longer valid. TY

== Adding Turkish Subdomain to WikiFur ==

Hi;

I'm a member of a local Turkish Furry community and I also voluntarily do translation projects.
You can check out my projects: [http://github.com/darkbloodking00/ DarkBloodKing GitHub]

I wanted to ask you if you could add a Turkish subdomain for WikiFur so we could contribute.

Thanks.

== Thumbnail creation error ==

[https://ru.wikifur.com/wiki/Файл:Coat_of_Arms_of_Slutsk.svg Slutsk] — Server cannot render thumbnail from SVG. For some reason. It seems that only this vector file. But, Wikipedia was able to. Should I find bugs in the file, or is it purely a server problem? He's in the [https://ru.wikifur.com/wiki/Пегасы Pegasus] article. [[User:Dokatamaru|'''SHREW''']] 10:43, 22 December 2021 (EST)

:As the error message states, there was an issue with the location of the rendering software, Batik - the path changed after an update. I have updated our configuration and it is working now. Thanks for the report! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 12:24, 22 December 2021 (EST)

== Please remove my page! ==

Hello,

I would like to request that you please remove my page, https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Strident_Weasel . I no longer wish to have any of this information displayed online.

Thank you.

:``This was done last year.'' --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 17:31, 18 February 2022 (EST)

== WebP ==

Hello again and. Good news, everyone! Uploaded a file for archiving, but it is not displayed! It is [[:wikipedia:WebP|WebP format]] and it is animation. There are more than 256 colors that GIF can. A rare frame from VHS without US censorship - Roger Rabbit knows a lot about women. [https://ru.wikifur.com/wiki/Файл:Jessica_Rabbit_crotch.webp File in notes.] The miniature is also [https://ru.wikifur.com/wiki/Заметки:Эротизм_в_западной_анимации not created], absolutely. [[User:Dokatamaru|'''SHREW''']] 17:38, 30 December 2021 (EST)

:I thought the backport of WebP support from MW 1.26 was not sufficient, but it turns out [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T290345 this is a MediaWiki limitation], [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Animated_WebP even today]. webp is otherwise enabled in MedaWiki as an image format, and compiled into ImageMagick as well (and it is now version 7.1). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 17:31, 18 February 2022 (EST)

== Nothing just want to say hello. ==

Hello.

== You also providing the articles about furry communities across the web and social medias areas? ==

Also I have a some community I am allowed to make a article about it? Smol link: (no better not) but it's FB it have 4383 members.

== You also providing the articles about furry communities across the web and social medias areas? ==

Also I have a some community I am allowed to make a article about it? Smol link: (no better not) but it's FB it have 4383 members.

== request to change my account's email address ==

hello i would like to change the email address of my wikifur account to my personal email address but it is not possible to do it by myself, it said to contact you, i cannot put the address here for privacy reasons is there anyway to send it privately in order to change it, thank you for reading the message [[User:Kirikagure]]

:You could drop me an email at [[Special:Emailuser/GreenReaper]] or my nickname at hotmail/gmail.com. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 17:31, 18 February 2022 (EST)

== I want change my email and nickname because I made a mistake when I wrote ==

I want change my email For DeeJaayTheFolsky Account deejaay_the_folsky@icloud.com(This email does not exist) To: deejaay_the_folfsky@icloud.com
Not to worry is a email open to the public
And i want change my name here DeeJaay The Folsky To DeeJaay The Folfsky —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:DeeJaay The Folfsky|DeeJaay The Folfsky]] ([[User talk:DeeJaay The Folfsky|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/DeeJaay The Folfsky|contribs]]) .

:Your username and registered email address have been changed. You may need to [[Special:Preferences|resend your activation email]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 16:15, 18 February 2022 (EST)

== Please blank my page ==

Hello. Could you please blank my article ([[Erin NorthStar]])? I've left the fandom and I no longer wish for this information to be shown online. Thank you.

== Can you delete the article on me ==

Hey can you please delete the article me. [[CycoMa1]] it was a mistake to make it in the first place.[[User:CycoMa|CycoMa]] ([[User talk:CycoMa|talk]]) 17:00, 17 March 2022 (EDT)

== libxml2.so.2 ==

/usr/local/lib/libxml2.so.2: version LIBXML2_2.4.30 required by /usr/local/lib/libMagickCore-7.so.10 [[:ru:Красный Принц|not defined]] [[User:Dokatamaru|'''SHREW''']] 09:43, 26 March 2022 (EDT)

== Can you delete and fix the article on Hornbuckle ==

Hey can you please delete the article and fix it by replacing it with Pigsnout. [[Hornbuckle (Pigsnout)]] was a mistake to make it in the first place.[[User:Missisabella|Missisabella]] 17 March 2022 (EDT)

== OverGryph, Gryphons of the Mist, GRPG, and probably others, all request to be deleted or history edits removed please! ==

Hi. I can't login, and it's redirecting me to fandom.com to login, but anyway, this is OverGryph. Check my IP. I'm making a web series out of Gryphons of the Mist, so I want these entries to be removed to avoid confusion. Think you can help me out? Here are all the wiki entries I want deleted: Gryphons of the Mist, GRPG, GRPG:SE, Brute gryphon, Bane Sylvr, Gryph Sylvr, OverGryph. I think that's all of them. I want them to disappear off the face of the Earth so my original animation can have a fresh start, and these entries won't show up on Google search anymore. Please assist!

Update:
Green Reaper, I made a few pages on wikifur over a decade ago. It appears my user account is disabled so I can't log in. The page I've been working on is https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/OverGryph I would like to have it deleted since the edit history can be searched up on Google. I've changed the story a lot since I made the wikifur page, and by simply existing, the wikifur page is sabotaging my life's work. Can you help me out and remove all traces of OverGryph and Gryphons of the Mist? You can reach me on twitter @griffwoods or you can just edit the discussion page of https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/OverGryph thanks

== Request for Exclusion ==

Hello,

I am requesting that the article [[Naia Okami]] be excluded. ([http://naia.me/request-for-exclusion verify request]) Thank you --[[User:Naiaokami|Naiaokami]] ([[User talk:Naiaokami|talk]]) 17:17, 25 June 2022 (EDT)

== Interwiki link request for pool.wikifur.com ==

Hey, GreenReaper. Wanted to reach out as I'm working on sprucing up the [https://en.wikifur.com/FurryConventionMap.html Furry Convention Map]. While doing so, I was looking to add an edit summary that linked back to another WikiFur page ([[The Menagerie]]) but discovered that the script for the map is hosted on https://pool.wikifur.com, so a standard internal link won't work. I thought it would be good to suggest the addition of an [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Links#Interwiki_links interwiki link] addition to Wikifur, i.e. <code><nowiki>[[wikifur:The Menagerie]]</nowiki></code> or <code><nowiki>[[wf:The Menagerie]]</nowiki></code>. This does not yet appear to be implemented on the pool subdomain, per its [https://pool.wikifur.com/wiki/Special:Interwiki Special:Interwiki] page.

I know this is a bit of a niche request, but it would be a quick change that allows for easy navigation between links in edit summaries on this subdomain. Thanks for your time! [[User:JaredTheWolf|JaredTheWolf]] ([[User talk:JaredTheWolf|talk]]) 17:00, 6 July 2022 (EDT)

== Put my email. ==

Good evening, sorry I would like to put my email in preferences but they won't let me do it, maybe you can help with some option?
Thanks.

== Disable account ==

Hey there, I'd like to disable my account as I no longer use it. Thanks!

== please delete FlayrahNews tweet with incorrect URL ==

1) please delete @FlayrahNews tweet https://twitter.com/FlayrahNews/status/1598324108990861312
In the Flayrah newsbyte/tweet, I forgot to delete "whatever.com", so the URL in tweet is screwed up. (middle of night here) I have posted corrected Newsbyte which looks good at Twitter. 
2) redlink (File:B26613F2-C44B-4458-82F7-706FC3C427D9.jpeg) at top of this talk page. --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] ([[User talk:EarthFurst|talk]]) 09:47, 1 December 2022 (EST)

: Thank you for deleting that tweet. --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] ([[User talk:EarthFurst|talk]]) 10:07, 1 December 2022 (EST)

== More Spambots! ==

Hey GreenReaper. Just letting you know that there are a few spam accounts trying to peddle some weird CBD pills or something. Yeah, found them while I was browsing recent changes.

Could you like, use your magic Minish powers to block them? Possibly a checkuser as well? That would be great.

Sorry if this post seems way too casual. [[User:Explodi-Gray-Tor|Explodi-Gray-Tor]] ([[User talk:Explodi-Gray-Tor|talk]]) 04:14, 5 December 2022 (EST)

== i wanna change my email ==

i wanna change my email to my gmail but “Account email addresses can only be changed manually at this time. Please contact User:GreenReaper to request a change.“

== Personal Exclusion ==

Please remove this page: https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Chase_(Fur_Affinity_administrator). Thank you!

== Personal exclusion request, and update request. ==

I would like my page Kiki_Foxkitty to be removed due to being very outdated, and for having too much personal info.

https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Keaton_Foxkitty

The DirtyFurs page can stay though, but the data in it is also very outdated as the LiveJournal has been abandoned for several years, and the IRC channel has been long abandoned as well. Most activity concerning the group is handled through the FurAffinity page nowadays.

https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/DirtyFurs

== Deleting User:Shub-Yoggoth ==

This is Shub-Yoggoth. I have lost my password and access to the account's e-mail. Please advise if there is an alternative way in verifying that I am the original user in question. I was told to contact you via Spirou as he told me you could help in this matter.

== Request for exclusion / page removal ==

Hello there, I am the creator of the page for my previous handle Paroapockinroo. Since changing my handle and due to most of the information on the page no longer being relevant, as well as personal reasons including previous harassment I am kindly requesting the deletion / full exclusion of the page Paroapockinroo.

https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Paroapockinroo

== Re-Inclusion on WikiFur ==

Hi there,

This is Lexicon. I'd like to have my wiki page on here reinstated, as I had it voluntarily excluded a few years ago, but decided to change my mind. I did have an account here on WikiFur back in 2016, but I have no idea what it was called. Also, is it possible to have my page renamed to simply "Lexicon"? I don't use the "Tōhin" surname anymore. 
This is my wiki page: [[Lexicon Tōhin]]

Thanks, 
Lexicon

== Oops, uploaded an image with a bad file name ==
Hey, Green. I uploaded an image but forgot to change its name to something more wikified: https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/File:Rotter-alone-by-tuvvin-smaller.png. A better name would be "Illustration of Rotter the Otter for Otterdance 3.png", but I can't change it. Please do so if you think it's worthwhile. It only appears in the article for [[Otterdance]]. Thanks and sorry for creating the issue! --[[User:Jack Newhorse|Tom Howling]] ([[User talk:Jack Newhorse|talk]]) 09:45, 9 April 2023 (EDT)

== Edit War==

User [[User:Varion Polaris|Varion Polaris]] is [https://en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=Lands_of_Fire&action=history|engaged in a editing war with several users] in regards to defamatory claims about cultural appropriation (see [https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/User_talk:Varion_Polaris|Spirou's response] as to why they're unapplicable). Please take care of Varion Polaris, who has demonstrated enough bad faith and willingness to go into edit wars.

== Email Change/Update ==

Hello GreenReaper,

I am trying to update my account's email address but the section said I needed to contact you in as those changes are manual at the moment. What do I need to do to get the email changed, please? The one on my account now is disabled and I don't have access to it anymore. It's pretty old. --[[User:JKami|JKami]] ([[User talk:JKami|talk]]) 23:19, 12 June 2023 (EDT)

== Problem with a .svg file ==

Hello, i have a problem [https://es.wikifur.com/wiki/Archivo:Ambox_outdated_serious.svg uploading a .svg file] in spanish WikiFur. That file is from Wikimedia Commons. Source: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ambox_outdated_serious.svg
Unable to access jarfile /usr/local/share/java/batik/batik-rasterizer-1.14.jar
I was going to make a template (outdated article template) with that file, but I think it's better [[:file:clock.png]]. Anyway, I inform you of the error. --[[User:MrArsenKaab|Arsen D. González]] | [[User_talk:MrArsenKaab|wanna talk?]] 23:36, 16 July 2023 (EDT)

== question about a mild ban on anthrochat for advertising I didnt know I did? Please help me ==

hello an friendlt greetings from Cajun I am a dog /wolf fur an I just had registered acouple of hours ago on irc anthrochat and I set my away msg to show I was sleeping(I guess perhaps it would have been better to simply log off but I dint

anyways I later got disconected for spvertising yet I haddent spoken live with anone so I dont know what happened:(

Any help in getting this resolved would be Greatly appreciated as I Really need a furry place to hang out and chat at

if I did accidently put something up that was considered ina channel topic spamming im sorry for whatever it was just please let me know sp I dont make the mistake again

my email is rick.rvg51@gmail.com I hope to hear back from you and this gets through to you as I tried on a awebsite for anthrochat and coiuldnt get through to any of gthe mods as it kept saying page unavailable and a 500 error messge whatever that is

Thanks for taking time to read this and Please help get me back on the server access I like being with my own kind anyplace else online is just not fun for me

Thanks and Best Regards,

{{unsigned|Cajun}}

== Update Email Address ==

I've emailed you instead.

== Nevermind ==
I see you removed the request and just ignore it but don't worry about it as we decided ultimately to rebrand the service,
it also no longer has a furry first approach and the website has also been removed. The article [[WereScape]] now only exists
to take up resources, so you can ignore the above request at this point.

== AllFurRadio Ownership change ==

Hi, I wanted to ask if we could please have the AllFurRadio page updated with the current ownership. As of 10/28/2023 AllFurRadio is now owned by Sheba Metaluna. I was also hoping that I could request my wiki fur page be opted back in.

My wiki page was https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Sheba_Metaluna but when I was younger I opted out because I was worried about so much of my information being on there, but now it pretty much is anyway lol. I would like to ask that you only use Sheba Metaluna and not my given name as I don't use my given name anywhere online. I am Sheba Metaluna on all platforms that I have an account on.

AllFurRadio Social media links

https://www.furaffinity.net/user/allfurradio
https://www.deviantart.com/allfurradioclub
https://www.facebook.com/allfurmedia
https://twitter.com/allfurradio
https://bsky.app/profile/allfurradio.bsky.social

We also have a new discord server, if anyone wants an invite they are welcome to message me on discord @shebametaluna

We are still working on getting everything back up and running so for the time being the server is being used as an info hub of sorts for Furry content creators to share their work or post live notices for DJ sets or live streams. We plan to be the most active on Second Life and Discord. If you need to confirm ownership transfer you can reach the original owner Markus on discord @markusdamone. Thank you for any help you may provide and sorry for any bother.

== My bad... ==

...On the false positive. Too close to the name sequence spammers have been using the last 4 days. - [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] ([[User talk:Spirou|talk]]) 00:57, 1 November 2023 (EDT)

== Request to remove Page ==

I've sort of messed things up trying to update my fursonas page. I no longer go by Howler or howler werewolf and would like those pages deleted. If there's anyway you can help me fix this I'd appreciate it, thank you.

User talk:AppalachianFox

2023-12-29T02:15:13Z

Softpaw: Reverted edits by Jobe the Thremboth (talk) to last revision by Arcticfoxslash

Welcome to [[WikiFur]]! Thank you for registering an account - we look forward to working with you. [[Forum:Help desk|Let us know]] if you need any [[Help:Contents|help]] not already provided. If you would like help creating an article or just editing it, don't hesitate to consult the [[Help:Furry Book of Style|Furry Book of Style]] or just contact an [[WikiFur:Administrator|administrator]]. Have a nice day! :-) [[User:Arcticfoxslash|Slash V. Lagopus]] 09:32, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

User talk:Softpaw

2023-12-29T02:13:11Z

Softpaw: Reverted edits by Jobe the Thremboth (talk) to last revision by GreenReaper

Welcome to [[WikiFur]]! Thank you for registering an account. We here at [[WikiFur]] look forward to working with you. [[Forum:Help desk|Let us know]] if you need any [[help]] not already provided. If you would like help creating an article or just editing it, don't hesitate to consult the [[Help:Furry Book of Style|Furry Book of Style]] or just contact a [[WikiFur:Administrator|administrator]]. Have a nice day! :-)
--[[User:Rat|Rat]] 17:30, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

:Hehe, thanks for the welcome! I've actually had an account here for quite some time, I just never really bothered to do anything with it. Wikis are kinda cool, but I have a very hard time understanding the syntax, so I don't know how much I'll really be doing. We'll see, though! --[[User:Softpaw|Natasha Softpaw]] 00:05, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

==Colditz==
No, I edited it due to several reasons, if you really want, you can throw my last.fm in it, but please let my Contributor and deviantArt out of it ;) thanks in further [[User:Colditz|Colditz]] 20:45, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

==Daelyhel Axon==
Thank you for Fixing someones comment to my profile [[User:Daelyhel Axon|Daelyhel Axon]] 22:41, 5 April 2009--[[User:Daelyhel Axon|Daelyhel Axon]] 02:42, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

:No problem :-) -- ''[[User:Softpaw|Natasha Softpaw]]'' ( [[User_talk:Softpaw|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Softpaw|contribs]] ) 02:45, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

== Block time ==

Isn't there a single admin around? I'm having trouble getting any staff or helpers to block the guy. [[User:The 888th Avatar|'''Wjxhuang''']], [[w:c:avatar:User:The 888th Avatar|the 888th Avatar]] [[User talk:The 888th Avatar|{Talk}]] 13:22, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

:Not that I can see. I figured one would show up by now, there's usually a constant admin presence here 24/7, but that doesn't seem to be the case at the moment. -- ''[[User:Softpaw|Natasha Softpaw]]'' ( [[User_talk:Softpaw|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Softpaw|contribs]] ) 13:23, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

::Yeah, big trouble, I can't fish any out on IRC either. We'll just need to be patient. [[User:The 888th Avatar|'''Wjxhuang''']], [[w:c:avatar:User:The 888th Avatar|the 888th Avatar]] [[User talk:The 888th Avatar|{Talk}]] 13:24, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

:::I'm attempting to chase one down via AIM. -- ''[[User:Softpaw|Natasha Softpaw]]'' ( [[User_talk:Softpaw|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Softpaw|contribs]] ) 13:27, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

::::Okay. [[User:The 888th Avatar|'''Wjxhuang''']], [[w:c:avatar:User:The 888th Avatar|the 888th Avatar]] [[User talk:The 888th Avatar|{Talk}]] 13:28, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

:::::We have our [[WikiFur:Administrators|administrator]] contact page as as well. And if you post messages on an admin talk page, they get an email, which can actually be faster. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 14:37, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

== Vandalism reversion ==

I'd just like to offer my gratitude (and likely that of the whole WikiFur community) when I thank you for your continued work at getting rid of vandalism as it happens. You've saved us countless hours of work throughout your time here, and if you ever come up when choosing new sysops then I'll be happy to endorse your name. Keep up the good work! And have a [[:Template:Furry treat|furry treat]]. :) {{:User:Robomilk/sig}} 12:56, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

:Thanks a lot! I just do what I can for the community; it helps that I have an RSS reader following the Wikifur feed which flags anon edits :-) *nibbles her furry treat :-P* -- ''[[User:Softpaw|Natasha Softpaw]]'' ( [[User_talk:Softpaw|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Softpaw|contribs]] ) 21:55, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

== Username Change Request ==

Hiya! You know I've been wanting to do this for quite some time, so here I am. I'd like to change my username to "Softpaw", please :-) -- ''[[User:Softpaw|Natasha Softpaw]]'' ( [[User_talk:Softpaw|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Softpaw|contribs]] ) 09:11, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
:Done. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 11:29, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
::Also, may I update my old signatures in my prior Talk posts to reflect the change? I'm not a fan of redirects. -- ''[[User:Softpaw|Natasha Softpaw]]'' ( [[User_talk:Softpaw|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Softpaw|contribs]] ) 15:25, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
:::That's fine as far as I'm concerned. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 15:29, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

== RSS? ==

Hiya! I was trying to update my newsreader for the new Wikifur, only to find that there's no RSS feed here. Will one be added/enabled? And if not, why? -- ''[[User:Softpaw|Natasha Softpaw]]'' ( [[User_talk:Softpaw|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Softpaw|contribs]] ) 15:23, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
:Yes there is. Go to [[Special:Recentchanges]] - they're linked in the sidebar - or just alter your current URLs to have a /w/ at the front. They are not published in every page because the link then takes up space in every page, even when the vast majority of people don't know about it or don't want it. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 15:31, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

== Rollback Privileges/Usergroup ==

Hello again! Sorry for all the messages on your talk page, but this seems to be the most effective way to reach you about Wikifur-related stuff. Anyway, the rollback usergroup doesn't seem to exist, so I no longer have rollback privileges. Thus, I tried to undo some vandalism on the Transformers article, only to find that there's a spam-listed URL, and regular Undo can't be used. -- ''[[User:Softpaw|Natasha Softpaw]]'' ( [[User_talk:Softpaw|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Softpaw|contribs]] ) 07:11, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
:Nice. I've made the group again. Your privileges were transferred, they just weren't active because it doesn't exist. And talk pages are the right place. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 12:16, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
::I figured that's what happened. Thanks! -- ''[[User:Softpaw|Natasha Softpaw]]'' ( [[User_talk:Softpaw|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Softpaw|contribs]] ) 18:46, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

== Confusion ==

No worries. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 03:51, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Furry Teens

2016-06-05T21:47:50Z

Softpaw: Reverted edits by 104.34.247.72 (talk) to last revision by 184.171.149.102

[[image:FTLogo.png|right]]
'''Furry Teens''', also known as '''Teen Furs''', is an online community of [[furry fan]]s and [[artist]]s between the ages 13-25. Created in 2003 by [[Kit Wolf]], and hosted by [[Lupinia]].

*'''Addresses''':
**'''Website''': http://www.furryteens.org/
**'''Forum''': http://www.furryteens.org/forum
**'''Frapper''': <nowiki>http://www.frappr.com/furryteens</nowiki> (Frappr defunct)
**'''IRC''': irc://irc.furnet.org/furryteens (IRC deregistered)
*'''Administration Team''':
**'''Forum Admin''': [[Natasha Softpaw]], [[Hale Laocon]], [[Spazzeh]]
**'''IRC Admin''': [[Atte]]
*'''Ran from/to''': 2003 - present
*'''Motto''': "''Introducing young furs to the fandom, one paw at a time''"

== History and services ==

Initially a [[Yahoo!]] Group, the community moved to a website format in 2003. Apart from the website and forum, there is also an [[IRC]] chatroom, a [[Furcadia]] [[dream]] by [[Flinch Ferrex]], an unofficial LiveJournal community (moderated by [[Shipanda]]), and a there was a [[Wikipedia:Frappr!|Frappr!]] page.

== Community's goals ==

Furry Teens is designed to be a place where a lot of creativity can be expressed by artists, [[writer]]s, gamers, and other furry fans. Furry Teens also encourages open-mindedness and innovation, along with giving and receiving support on "growing up" topics, and helping new furs better understand the furry fandom. The group aims to provide a safe haven for young members of the fandom, primarily minors, who are often unwelcome at other furry sites because of their age, and continues to grow in members and features.

== See also ==

* [[TeenageFurs]], a spin-off group created by former Furry Teens members

== External links ==

*[http://www.furryteens.org/ Furry Teens], main website
*[http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Furry-Teens/ Furry-Teens], original [[Yahoo!|Yahoo! group]]
*[http://web.archive.org/web/20070111204228rn_1/groups.yahoo.com/group/teenfurs/ Archive copy of Teen Furs Yahoo! group] at [[Wikipedia:Internet Archive|Internet Archive]]

[[Category:Websites]]
[[Category:Forums]]
[[Category:Mailing lists]]
[[Category:2003 births]]

Natasha Softpaw

2014-04-08T14:50:22Z

Softpaw: Transition is complete, I no longer need to wear it on my sleeve quite as much as I used to.

{{Wikify}}
[[File:Natasha_Softpaw_Mini-Badge.jpg|thumb|210px|right|Natasha Softpaw's main con badge. Art by [[MehndiX]].]]
[[File:Natasha_Softpaw_Marci_Badge.jpg|thumb|210px|right|Natasha Softpaw's babyfur fursona. Art by [[Marci McAdam]].]]
'''Natasha Softpaw''', also known as '''Natasha Lockhart''', and as '''Natasha Petrichor''' on [[Second Life]], is a [[grey wolf]] [[fur]], born in August 1985, living in the Washington, DC metro area. She is a professional web designer, with hobbies including amateur radio, nature photography, travelling, hiking, and off-roading.

== Character forms ==
=== Adult ===
Natasha Softpaw is a female grey wolf in her late teens (about 17, give or take a year). She’s a light-hearted, fun-loving fur who seldom takes life seriously, and she has a very playful personality. Her favourite activities include hiking, photography, swimming, and just relaxing among the trees near her home. She’s had a strong love of nature (particularly trees and flowers) ever since she was a pup, and happily describes herself as a “tree-hugger”. And, while she spends much of her time alone, she also enjoys social activities with her closest friends.

Her build is best described as average, but short. She’s roughly 5’4”, but this can vary due to her digitgrade legs (her family’s canine roots are unusually strong). Her headfur is dark brown, more than halfway down her back in length, and she typically lets it flow loosely, having never been a fan of the constricting sensation of hair elastics. But, she does loosely tie it back for swimming or hiking (if it’s a hot day). She seldom wears skirts or dresses, preferring short denim shorts and T-shirts (or tank-tops) instead. And, she usually wears a small, silver pentacle necklace (five-pointed star in a circle). She also loves wearing flowers in her hair, they make her feel like she’s bringing the forest home with her when she heads back after a day of hiking.

[http://www.softpaw.eu/furry/ref-natasha.htm Description and reference images]

=== Babyfur ===
Natasha Softpaw is a female grey wolf puppy (about 2, give or take a year). She’s highly energetic, yet also quite affectionate, and she greatly prefers playing outside over staying inside. She has an affinity for exploration, but she’s rather timid, so she usually brings one of her plushies (her favourite is a river otter) along to “protect” her. Luckily, her parents have a large, forested backyard, so she can play in the woods without being in any real danger. She has a bit of an overactive imagination, and loves dreaming up wild fantasy scenarios, which keep her much too busy to be bothered with TV or video games. But, when bedtime comes, there are few things she enjoys more than a long bath (she loves water), and some snuggle time in the arms of her mommy.

She has pretty long headfur for her age, it’s nearly halfway down her back, and dark brown in colour. Her preferred style is to just let it flow loosely, but she spends a lot of time brushing it to keep it smooth and untangled. She doesn’t like wearing dresses, nor does she like wearing just a diaper, though she does like jumpers and shortalls. Her favourite colours are lavender and blue, and she hates yellow, with her wardrobe reflecting this. And, she loves bringing flowers back inside after a long day of playing, as well as tucking them in her hair (she thinks they look pretty, and they smell nice).

[http://www.softpaw.eu/furry/ref-natasha-bf.htm Description and reference images]

== Fandom involvement ==
To date, Natasha has attended 13 major furry conventions, including [[Anthrocon]], [[Megaplex]], and [[Midwest FurFest]], as well as number of mini-cons like [[Western Pennsylvania Furry Weekend|WPAFW]] and [[New Year's Furry Ball|NYFB]]. She attends local meets in the Pittsburgh and Washington, DC metro areas on a regular basis, as well as other nearby locations. She enjoys lending her expertise in website/community administration to a number of furry forums and websites, and recently, she's been involved with running large babyfur parties/social events at major furry cons.

She discovered the fandom on Halloween in 2003, and has been an avid member of the furry community ever since. Natasha has no relation to ''[[Softpaw Magazine]]'', nor should she be confused with the artist [[Kiffin Softpaw]].

== Sites ==
=== Lupinia Studios ===

'''Lupinia Studios''', created in august 2004, is Natasha Softpaw's personal portfolio, and is the original site to carry the ''Lupinia'' name. Aside from a brief experiment with running a CMS in early 2006, the site has had the same basic appearance and structure since its creation in August 2004.

In addition to sections to showcase Natasha's [[writing]], [[graphic design]], and [[photography]], the site itself is a demonstration and [[W:Proof of concept|proof of concept]] site for her web design and PHP projects.

=== Lupinia Hosting Community ===

'''Lupinia Hosting Community''' is Natasha's website hosting site, both furry related and otherwise. Among these are:

* [[Furry Teens]] , a general furry site geared toward a teen audience.
* [[House Rules]], the fan-colored version of ''[[Ozy and Millie]]''.
* The [[MILFurs|Military Furs]] forum, run by [[Flinch Ferrex]]

== External links ==
{{contributor|Softpaw}}
=== Main websites and biography ===
* [http://www.softpaw.eu/ Lupinia Studios] - Natasha's website
* [http://www.softpaw.eu/personal/ Lupinia - About Natasha] - Natasha's personal bio on [[Lupinia]]

=== Social networking ===
* [http://natashasoftpaw.livejournal.com/ Lupinia on LJ] - Natasha's [[LiveJournal]]
* [http://softpaw.dreamwidth.org/ Softpaw] - Natasha's Dreamwidth account
* [http://twitter.com/lupinia Lupinia on Twitter] - Natasha's Twitter feed

=== Image galleries ===
* [http://www.softpaw.eu/personal/gallery.php Lupinia Studios Gallery] - Natasha's personal image gallery on [[Lupinia]]
* [http://www.softpaw.eu/furry/art.php Lupinia Studios Gallery (Furry)] - Natasha's furry art gallery on [[Lupinia]]
* [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/softpaw/ Softpaw] - Natasha's [[Fur Affinity]] account
* [http://lupiniastudios.deviantart.com/ Lupinia Studios] - Natasha's [[DeviantArt]] account
* [http://www.flickr.com/photos/lupiniastudios/ Natasha's Flickr Photostream]

[[Category:People]]
[[Category:Writers]]
[[Category:Ham radio operators]]
[[Category:Babyfurs]]
[[Category:Wolf characters]]
[[Category:Second Life characters]]
[[Category:Virginia]]
[[Category:1985 births]]

Lupinia Hosting Community

2014-01-30T06:12:18Z

Softpaw: The Lupinia Hosting Community is no more, more details are on its website.

{{Infobox website
| title = Lupinia Hosting Community
| image =
| caption =
| author = [[Natasha Softpaw]], [[LilPup]], [[FoxCub]]
| url = http://hosting.lupinia.net/
| status =
| began = August 2004
| ended = August 2014
| genre = Non-Profit Hosting Provider
| rating =
}}
'''Lupinia Hosting Community''' is a non-profit community-based hosting provider. Lupinia Hosting is run by a three-person team consisting of [[Natasha Softpaw]], [[LilPup]], and [[FoxCub]], and owns a co-located server (with plans to add more). In January 2014, Natasha announced that web hosting operations would cease on August 1, 2014.

== Mission and services ==

Lupinia Hosting Community's mission is to provide high-quality ad-free website and email hosting to sites that would have a hard time supporting themselves otherwise. Because of this goal, Lupinia enforces a strict no-advertising policy on sites it hosts; member sites are allowed to advertise themselves on outside sites without restriction, but they are prohibited from selling ad space themselves, or using third-party advertising systems like Google Ads.

Lupinia typically caters to [[furry]] websites, particularly forums and [[artist]]s' home pages. But, it hosts a selection of non-furry sites as well, including small businesses and independant professionals.

Funding for the service is primarily provided by Natasha's personal funds, and augmented by donations (though, she hopes that this trend will reverse at some point in the future).

== Hosted sites ==

Some of the hosted sites include:
* [[Furry Teens]] - A general furry site geared toward a [[W:Teenager|teen]] audience.
* [[House Rules]] - The fan-colored version of ''[[Ozy and Millie]]''.
* [[I Read This]] - A [[Furry fan|fan]] forum dedicated to the [[Wikipedia:Political_cartoon|political webcomic]], ''[[Wikipedia: I Drew This|I Drew This]]''.
* [[The Online Babyfur Community]] - The central [[babyfur]] resource site assembled by [[LilPup]].
* [[Serenity Hollows]] - A generic furry forum emphasizing peace and friendship.
* [[ZooFonics]], an all-furry, streaming [[web radio station]].

== External links ==

* [http://webmail.lupinia.net/ Lupinia Hosting Community]'s webmail service
* [http://hosting.lupinia.net/support/ Lupinia Hosting Community]'s support
* [http://twitter.com/lupinia_status ''Lupinia Status''] - Lupinia Hosting Community's [[twitter]] update

{{Web hosting sites}}
[[Category:Web hosts]]
[[Category:2004 births]]

User:Softpaw

2013-06-10T22:29:10Z

Softpaw: Convention update

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I'm Natasha Softpaw, and I like userboxes! Since putting a bio here would be fairly redundant, I'll point you to the article on [[Natasha Softpaw]] for more information.

Also, while I enjoy making new pages here on Wikifur, I kinda suck at getting all the formatting and such figured out, so I'm always thankful for those who come behind me and fix my contributions!

=== Contact Info ===
'''Email:''' [http://www.softpaw.eu/contact.php Click Here] (Email Form) 
'''AIM:''' NatashaSoftpaw 
'''MSN:''' greywolf@lupinia.us (Note: This is not a valid email address!) 
'''Y!:''' softpaw@ymail.com (Note: As with my MSN SN, this is not a valid email address)

=== Conventions Attended ===
'''[[Anthrocon]]:''' 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013 
'''[[FurtheMore]]:''' 2013 
'''[[Megaplex]]:''' 2004, 2005, 2006, 2010 
'''[[Midwest Furfest]]:''' 2008 
'''[[Western PA Furry Weekend]]:''' 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 
'''Big Apple Ponycon:''' 2013 
'''Bronycon:''' September 2011, January 2012, Summer 2012, Summer 2013 
'''Cloudsdale Congress:''' 2013 
'''Trotcon:''' 2012 
'''Floating World:''' 2009 
'''Camp Crucible:''' 2013 

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Natasha Softpaw

2013-01-31T02:50:25Z

Softpaw: I always hated that sentence

[[Image:Natasha_Softpaw_Mini-Badge.jpg|thumb|210px|right|Natasha Softpaw's main con badge. Art by [[MehndiX]].]][[Image:Natasha_Softpaw_Marci_Badge.jpg|thumb|210px|right|Natasha Softpaw's babyfur fursona. Art by [[Marci McAdam]].]]
'''Natasha Softpaw''', also known as '''Natasha Lockhart''', and as '''Natasha Petrichor''' on [[Second Life]], is a [[grey wolf]] [[fur]], born in August 1985, living in the Washington, DC metro area. She is a professional web designer, with hobbies including amateur radio, nature photography, travelling, hiking, and off-roading. She's also [[transgender|transgendered]].

== Character forms ==
=== Adult ===
Natasha Softpaw is a female grey wolf in her late teens (about 17, give or take a year). She’s a light-hearted, fun-loving fur who seldom takes life seriously, and she has a very playful personality. Her favourite activities include hiking, photography, swimming, and just relaxing among the trees near her home. She’s had a strong love of nature (particularly trees and flowers) ever since she was a pup, and happily describes herself as a “tree-hugger”. And, while she spends much of her time alone, she also enjoys social activities with her closest friends.

Her build is best described as average, but short. She’s roughly 5’4”, but this can vary due to her digitgrade legs (her family’s canine roots are unusually strong). Her headfur is dark brown, more than halfway down her back in length, and she typically lets it flow loosely, having never been a fan of the constricting sensation of hair elastics. But, she does loosely tie it back for swimming or hiking (if it’s a hot day). She seldom wears skirts or dresses, preferring short denim shorts and T-shirts (or tank-tops) instead. And, she usually wears a small, silver pentacle necklace (five-pointed star in a circle). She also loves wearing flowers in her hair, they make her feel like she’s bringing the forest home with her when she heads back after a day of hiking.

[http://www.softpaw.eu/furry/ref-natasha.htm Description and reference images]

=== Babyfur ===
Natasha Softpaw is a female grey wolf puppy (about 2, give or take a year). She’s highly energetic, yet also quite affectionate, and she greatly prefers playing outside over staying inside. She has an affinity for exploration, but she’s rather timid, so she usually brings one of her plushies (her favourite is a river otter) along to “protect” her. Luckily, her parents have a large, forested backyard, so she can play in the woods without being in any real danger. She has a bit of an overactive imagination, and loves dreaming up wild fantasy scenarios, which keep her much too busy to be bothered with TV or video games. But, when bedtime comes, there are few things she enjoys more than a long bath (she loves water), and some snuggle time in the arms of her mommy.

She has pretty long headfur for her age, it’s nearly halfway down her back, and dark brown in colour. Her preferred style is to just let it flow loosely, but she spends a lot of time brushing it to keep it smooth and untangled. She doesn’t like wearing dresses, nor does she like wearing just a diaper, though she does like jumpers and shortalls. Her favourite colours are lavender and blue, and she hates yellow, with her wardrobe reflecting this. And, she loves bringing flowers back inside after a long day of playing, as well as tucking them in her hair (she thinks they look pretty, and they smell nice).

[http://www.softpaw.eu/furry/ref-natasha-bf.htm Description and reference images]

== Fandom involvement ==
To date, Natasha has attended 13 major furry conventions, including [[Anthrocon]], [[Megaplex]], and [[Midwest FurFest]], as well as number of mini-cons like [[Western Pennsylvania Furry Weekend|WPAFW]] and [[New Year's Furry Ball|NYFB]]. She attends local meets in the Pittsburgh and Washington, DC metro areas on a regular basis, as well as other nearby locations. She enjoys lending her expertise in website/community administration to a number of furry forums and websites, and recently, she's been involved with running large babyfur parties/social events at major furry cons.

She discovered the fandom on Halloween in 2003, and has been an avid member of the furry community ever since. Natasha has no relation to ''[[Softpaw Magazine]]'', nor should she be confused with the artist [[Kiffin Softpaw]].

== Lupinia ==
Natasha's website, [[Lupinia]], hosts several other websites, both furry related and otherwise. Among these are:
* [[Furry Teens]] , a general furry site geared toward a teen audience.
* [[House Rules]], the fan-colored version of ''[[Ozy and Millie]]''.
* The [[MILFurs|Military Furs]] forum, run by [[Flinch Ferrex]]

== External links ==
{{contributor|Softpaw}}
=== Main websites and biography ===
* [http://www.softpaw.eu/ Lupinia Studios] - Natasha's website
* [http://www.softpaw.eu/personal/ Lupinia - About Natasha] - Natasha's personal bio on [[Lupinia]]

=== Social networking ===
* [http://natashasoftpaw.livejournal.com/ Lupinia on LJ] - Natasha's [[LiveJournal]]
* [http://softpaw.dreamwidth.org/ Softpaw] - Natasha's Dreamwidth account
* [http://twitter.com/lupinia Lupinia on Twitter] - Natasha's Twitter feed

=== Image galleries ===
* [http://www.softpaw.eu/personal/gallery.php Lupinia Studios Gallery] - Natasha's personal image gallery on [[Lupinia]]
* [http://www.softpaw.eu/furry/art.php Lupinia Studios Gallery (Furry)] - Natasha's furry art gallery on [[Lupinia]]
* [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/softpaw/ Softpaw] - Natasha's [[FurAffinity]] account
* [http://lupiniastudios.deviantart.com/ Lupinia Studios] - Natasha's [[DeviantArt]] account
* [http://www.flickr.com/photos/lupiniastudios/ Natasha's Flickr Photostream]

[[Category:People]]
[[Category:Writers]]
[[Category:Ham radio operators]]
[[Category:Babyfurs]]
[[Category:Wolf characters]]
[[Category:Second Life characters]]
[[Category:Virginia]]
[[Category:1985 births]]

FoxCub

2013-01-31T02:48:06Z

Softpaw: Revert dubious edits

[[Image:Fox Cub by Marci (Raver Badge).jpg|thumb|210px|right|Fox_Cub's "raver" badge. Art by [[Marci McAdam]].]]

'''FoxCub''', born in 1981, is a red fox [[babyfur]] currently residing in Pittsburgh, PA. Originally from Oklahoma, he relocated to the east coast shortly after discovering the fandom in 2000, and aside from a two-year move to Harrisonburg, VA, he has lived in Pittsburgh ever since. He has a wide variety of hobbies, including woodworking, construction, vintage house restoration, classic Volkswagen restoration, amateur radio, and electronics design/engineering. He's currently self-employed as a woodworker/carpenter, skilled in a variety of areas including fine furniture design/construction, home repair/improvements, and artistic lathe turnings.

== Fandom Involvement ==
Fox has attended a very large number of conventions, and has volunteered/held staff positions at most of them at one point or another. He also attends local meets in Pittsburgh on a regular basis, and hosts parties/meets of his own from time to time. He also works to organize large babyfur parties at major cons, including the recently-popularized Cub Hub.

== Otter Fursona ==
In addition to his fox character, FoxCub also has an otter fursona, typically referred to as "The Howling Otter".

== External Links ==
{{Contributor|Therealfoxcub}}
* [http://www.howlingotter.com/ Howling Otter] - Fox's woodworking website
* [http://www.lupinia.net/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=526 FoxCub Art] - Fox's furry art on [[Lupinia]]
* [http://www.lupinia.net/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=906 Mike Fox's Images] - Fox's RL images [[Lupinia]]
* [http://fox-cub.livejournal.com/ FoxCub on LJ] - Fox's [[LiveJournal]]
* [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/fox-cub Fox-cub] - Fox's [[Fur Affinity]] account

[[Category:People]]
[[Category:Ham radio operators]]
[[Category:Babyfurs]]
[[Category:Fox characters]]
[[Category:Pennsylvania]]
[[Category:1981 births]]

Natasha Softpaw

2012-10-20T05:53:43Z

Softpaw:

[[Image:Natasha_Softpaw_Mini-Badge.jpg|thumb|210px|right|Natasha Softpaw's main con badge. Art by [[MehndiX]].]][[Image:Natasha_Softpaw_Marci_Badge.jpg|thumb|210px|right|Natasha Softpaw's babyfur fursona. Art by [[Marci McAdam]].]]
'''Natasha Softpaw''', also known as '''Natasha Lockhart''', and as '''Natasha Petrichor''' on [[Second Life]], is a [[grey wolf]] [[fur]], born in August 1985, living in the Washington, DC metro area. She is a professional web designer, with hobbies including amateur radio, nature photography, travelling, hiking, and off-roading. She's also [[transgender|transgendered]], and while she used to use a male fursona/identity on furry sites, she's in the process of changing this to reflect changes in her real life.

== Character forms ==
=== Adult ===
Natasha Softpaw is a female grey wolf in her late teens (about 17, give or take a year). She’s a light-hearted, fun-loving fur who seldom takes life seriously, and she has a very playful personality. Her favourite activities include hiking, photography, swimming, and just relaxing among the trees near her home. She’s had a strong love of nature (particularly trees and flowers) ever since she was a pup, and happily describes herself as a “tree-hugger”. And, while she spends much of her time alone, she also enjoys social activities with her closest friends.

Her build is best described as average, but short. She’s roughly 5’4”, but this can vary due to her digitgrade legs (her family’s canine roots are unusually strong). Her headfur is dark brown, more than halfway down her back in length, and she typically lets it flow loosely, having never been a fan of the constricting sensation of hair elastics. But, she does loosely tie it back for swimming or hiking (if it’s a hot day). She seldom wears skirts or dresses, preferring short denim shorts and T-shirts (or tank-tops) instead. And, she usually wears a small, silver pentacle necklace (five-pointed star in a circle). She also loves wearing flowers in her hair, they make her feel like she’s bringing the forest home with her when she heads back after a day of hiking.

[http://www.softpaw.eu/furry/ref-natasha.htm Description and reference images]

=== Babyfur ===
Natasha Softpaw is a female grey wolf puppy (about 2, give or take a year). She’s highly energetic, yet also quite affectionate, and she greatly prefers playing outside over staying inside. She has an affinity for exploration, but she’s rather timid, so she usually brings one of her plushies (her favourite is a river otter) along to “protect” her. Luckily, her parents have a large, forested backyard, so she can play in the woods without being in any real danger. She has a bit of an overactive imagination, and loves dreaming up wild fantasy scenarios, which keep her much too busy to be bothered with TV or video games. But, when bedtime comes, there are few things she enjoys more than a long bath (she loves water), and some snuggle time in the arms of her mommy.

She has pretty long headfur for her age, it’s nearly halfway down her back, and dark brown in colour. Her preferred style is to just let it flow loosely, but she spends a lot of time brushing it to keep it smooth and untangled. She doesn’t like wearing dresses, nor does she like wearing just a diaper, though she does like jumpers and shortalls. Her favourite colours are lavender and blue, and she hates yellow, with her wardrobe reflecting this. And, she loves bringing flowers back inside after a long day of playing, as well as tucking them in her hair (she thinks they look pretty, and they smell nice).

[http://www.softpaw.eu/furry/ref-natasha-bf.htm Description and reference images]

== Fandom involvement ==
To date, Natasha has attended 13 major furry conventions, including [[Anthrocon]], [[Megaplex]], and [[Midwest FurFest]], as well as number of mini-cons like [[Western Pennsylvania Furry Weekend|WPAFW]] and [[New Year's Furry Ball|NYFB]]. She attends local meets in the Pittsburgh and Washington, DC metro areas on a regular basis, as well as other nearby locations. She enjoys lending her expertise in website/community administration to a number of furry forums and websites, and recently, she's been involved with running large babyfur parties/social events at major furry cons.

She discovered the fandom on Halloween in 2003, and has been an avid member of the furry community ever since. Natasha has no relation to ''[[Softpaw Magazine]]'', nor should she be confused with the artist [[Kiffin Softpaw]].

== Lupinia ==
Natasha's website, [[Lupinia]], hosts several other websites, both furry related and otherwise. Among these are:
* [[Furry Teens]] , a general furry site geared toward a teen audience.
* [[House Rules]], the fan-colored version of ''[[Ozy and Millie]]''.
* The [[MILFurs|Military Furs]] forum, run by [[Flinch Ferrex]]

== External links ==
{{contributor|Softpaw}}
=== Main websites and biography ===
* [http://www.softpaw.eu/ Lupinia Studios] - Natasha's website
* [http://www.softpaw.eu/personal/ Lupinia - About Natasha] - Natasha's personal bio on [[Lupinia]]

=== Social networking ===
* [http://natashasoftpaw.livejournal.com/ Lupinia on LJ] - Natasha's [[LiveJournal]]
* [http://softpaw.dreamwidth.org/ Softpaw] - Natasha's Dreamwidth account
* [http://twitter.com/lupinia Lupinia on Twitter] - Natasha's Twitter feed

=== Image galleries ===
* [http://www.softpaw.eu/personal/gallery.php Lupinia Studios Gallery] - Natasha's personal image gallery on [[Lupinia]]
* [http://www.softpaw.eu/furry/art.php Lupinia Studios Gallery (Furry)] - Natasha's furry art gallery on [[Lupinia]]
* [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/softpaw/ Softpaw] - Natasha's [[FurAffinity]] account
* [http://lupiniastudios.deviantart.com/ Lupinia Studios] - Natasha's [[DeviantArt]] account
* [http://www.flickr.com/photos/lupiniastudios/ Natasha's Flickr Photostream]

[[Category:People]]
[[Category:Writers]]
[[Category:Ham radio operators]]
[[Category:Babyfurs]]
[[Category:Wolf characters]]
[[Category:Second Life characters]]
[[Category:Virginia]]
[[Category:1985 births]]

Lupinia Studios

2012-02-22T14:17:10Z

Softpaw: Lupinia no longer supports WikiFur.

{{split}}
Lupinia is somewhat of a personal trademark for [[Natasha Softpaw]], and is used in multiple contexts. The term originated as both the setting and the title for a furry story series she started, focusing on a society of anthropomorphic canines (mostly wolves, hence the name) living in present-day Virginia/West Virginia, secretly existing alongside human society. The series is currently on an extended hiatus, but may return in the near future.

Lupinia's current internet presence consists of two main sites/divisions, Lupinia Studios and Lupinia Hosting Community, operating as one identity.

*'''Addresses''':
** '''Lupinia Studios Main Site''' - http://www.lupinia.eu/
** '''Lupinia Hosting Site''' - http://hosting.lupinia.net/ ([http://webmail.lupinia.net/ Webmail]) ([http://hosting.lupinia.net/support/ Support])
** '''Lupinia Status Twitter Feed''' - http://twitter.com/lupinia_status
*'''Founder''': [[Natasha Softpaw]]
*'''Staff''': [[LilPup]] (server co-administrator), [[FoxCub]] (server security administrator)
*'''Ran from/to''': August 2004 - Present

== Lupinia Hosting Community ==
{{Infobox website
| title = Lupinia Hosting Community
| image =
| caption =
| author = [[Natasha Softpaw]], [[LilPup]], [[FoxCub]]
| url = http://hosting.lupinia.net/
| status =
| began = August 2004
| ended = Present
| genre = Non-Profit Hosting Provider
| rating =
}}

One of the current incarnations of Lupinia is in the form of a non-profit community-based hosting provider. Lupinia Hosting is run by a three-person team consisting of [[Natasha Softpaw]], [[LilPup]], and [[FoxCub]], and owns a co-located server (with plans to add more). Lupinia's mission is to provide high-quality ad-free website and email hosting to sites that would have a hard time supporting themselves otherwise. Because of this goal, Lupinia enforces a strict no-advertising policy on sites it hosts; member sites are allowed to advertise themselves on outside sites without restriction, but they are prohibited from selling ad space themselves, or using third-party advertising systems like Google Ads.

Lupinia typically caters to furry websites, particularly forums and artists' homepages. But, it hosts a selection of non-furry sites as well, including small businesses and independant professionals.

Funding for the service is primarily provided by Natasha's personal funds, and augmented by donations (though, she hopes that this trend will reverse at some point in the future).

Notable sites hosted by Lupinia include:
* '''[[Furry Teens]]''' , a general furry site geared toward a teen audience.
* '''[[House Rules]]''', the fan-colored version of ''[[Ozy and Millie]]''.
* '''I Read This''', a fan forum dedicated to the [[Wikipedia:Political_cartoon|political webcomic]], ''[[Wikipedia: I Drew This|I Drew This]]''.
* '''The Online Babyfur Community''', the central [[babyfur]] resource site assembled by [[LilPup]].
* '''[[Serenity Hollows]]''', a generic furry forum emphasizing peace and friendship.
* '''[[ZooFonics]]''', an all-furry web radio station, and our first streaming audio offering.

== Lupinia Studios ==
{{Infobox website
| title = Lupinia Studios
| image =
| caption = "Discover Lupinia"
| author = [[Natasha Softpaw]]
| url = http://www.lupinia.eu/
| status = Irregular/Monthly
| began = August 2004
| ended = Present
| genre = General Portfolio/Personal Site
| rating = PG
}}

Lupinia Studios is Natasha's personal portfolio, and is the original site to carry the Lupinia name. Aside from a brief experiment with running a CMS in early 2006, the site has had the same basic appearance and structure since its creation in August 2004. In addition to sections to showcase Natasha's writing, graphic design, and photography, the site itself is a demonstration and test-bed for her web design and PHP projects.

[[Category:Web hosts]]
[[Category:Virginia]]
[[Category:Websites]]
[[Category:2004 births]]

Natasha Softpaw

2012-02-22T14:16:51Z

Softpaw: I no longer support WikiFur.

[[Image:Natasha_Softpaw_Mini-Badge.jpg|thumb|210px|right|Natasha Softpaw's main con badge. Art by [[MehndiX]].]][[Image:Natasha_Softpaw_Marci_Badge.jpg|thumb|210px|right|Natasha Softpaw's babyfur fursona. Art by [[Marci McAdam]].]]
'''Natasha Softpaw''', also known as '''Natasha Lockhart''', and as '''Natasha Petrichor''' on [[Second Life]], is a [[grey wolf]] [[fur]], born in August 1985. She is a professional web designer, with hobbies including amateur radio, nature photography, travelling, hiking, and off-roading. She's also [[transgender|transgendered]], and while she used to use a male fursona/identity on furry sites, she's in the process of changing this to reflect changes in her real life.

== Character forms ==
=== Adult ===
Natasha Softpaw is a female grey wolf in her late teens (about 17, give or take a year). She’s a light-hearted, fun-loving fur who seldom takes life seriously, and she has a very playful personality. Her favourite activities include hiking, photography, swimming, and just relaxing among the trees near her home. She’s had a strong love of nature (particularly trees and flowers) ever since she was a pup, and happily describes herself as a “tree-hugger”. And, while she spends much of her time alone, she also enjoys social activities with her closest friends.

Her build is best described as average, but short. She’s roughly 5’4”, but this can vary due to her digitgrade legs (her family’s canine roots are unusually strong). Her headfur is dark brown, more than halfway down her back in length, and she typically lets it flow loosely, having never been a fan of the constricting sensation of hair elastics. But, she does loosely tie it back for swimming or hiking (if it’s a hot day). She seldom wears skirts or dresses, preferring short denim shorts and T-shirts (or tank-tops) instead. And, she usually wears a small, silver pentacle necklace (five-pointed star in a circle). She also loves wearing flowers in her hair, they make her feel like she’s bringing the forest home with her when she heads back after a day of hiking.

[http://www.softpaw.eu/furry/ref-natasha.htm Description and reference images]

=== Babyfur ===
Natasha Softpaw is a female grey wolf puppy (about 2, give or take a year). She’s highly energetic, yet also quite affectionate, and she greatly prefers playing outside over staying inside. She has an affinity for exploration, but she’s rather timid, so she usually brings one of her plushies (her favourite is a river otter) along to “protect” her. Luckily, her parents have a large, forested backyard, so she can play in the woods without being in any real danger. She has a bit of an overactive imagination, and loves dreaming up wild fantasy scenarios, which keep her much too busy to be bothered with TV or video games. But, when bedtime comes, there are few things she enjoys more than a long bath (she loves water), and some snuggle time in the arms of her mommy.

She has pretty long headfur for her age, it’s nearly halfway down her back, and dark brown in colour. Her preferred style is to just let it flow loosely, but she spends a lot of time brushing it to keep it smooth and untangled. She doesn’t like wearing dresses, nor does she like wearing just a diaper, though she does like jumpers and shortalls. Her favourite colours are lavender and blue, and she hates yellow, with her wardrobe reflecting this. And, she loves bringing flowers back inside after a long day of playing, as well as tucking them in her hair (she thinks they look pretty, and they smell nice).

[http://www.softpaw.eu/furry/ref-natasha-bf.htm Description and reference images]

== Fandom involvement ==
To date, Natasha has attended 13 major furry conventions, including [[Anthrocon]], [[Megaplex]], and [[Midwest FurFest]], as well as number of mini-cons like [[Western Pennsylvania Furry Weekend|WPAFW]] and [[New Year's Furry Ball|NYFB]]. She attends local meets in the Pittsburgh and Washington, DC metro areas on a regular basis, as well as other nearby locations. She enjoys lending her expertise in website/community administration to a number of furry forums and websites, and recently, she's been involved with running large babyfur parties/social events at major furry cons.

She discovered the fandom on Halloween in 2003, and has been an avid member of the furry community ever since. Natasha has no relation to ''[[Softpaw Magazine]]'', nor should she be confused with the artist [[Kiffin Softpaw]].

== Lupinia ==
Natasha's website, [[Lupinia]], hosts several other websites, both furry related and otherwise. Among these are:
* [[Furry Teens]] , a general furry site geared toward a teen audience.
* [[House Rules]], the fan-colored version of ''[[Ozy and Millie]]''.
* The [[MILFurs|Military Furs]] forum, run by [[Flinch Ferrex]]

== External links ==
{{contributor|Softpaw}}
=== Main websites and biography ===
* [http://www.softpaw.eu/ Lupinia Studios] - Natasha's website
* [http://www.softpaw.eu/personal/ Lupinia - About Natasha] - Natasha's personal bio on [[Lupinia]]

=== Social networking ===
* [http://natashasoftpaw.livejournal.com/ Lupinia on LJ] - Natasha's [[LiveJournal]]
* [http://softpaw.dreamwidth.org/ Softpaw] - Natasha's Dreamwidth account
* [http://twitter.com/lupinia Lupinia on Twitter] - Natasha's Twitter feed

=== Image galleries ===
* [http://www.softpaw.eu/personal/gallery.php Lupinia Studios Gallery] - Natasha's personal image gallery on [[Lupinia]]
* [http://www.softpaw.eu/furry/art.php Lupinia Studios Gallery (Furry)] - Natasha's furry art gallery on [[Lupinia]]
* [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/softpaw/ Softpaw] - Natasha's [[FurAffinity]] account
* [http://lupiniastudios.deviantart.com/ Lupinia Studios] - Natasha's [[DeviantArt]] account
* [http://www.flickr.com/photos/lupiniastudios/ Natasha's Flickr Photostream]

[[Category:People]]
[[Category:Writers]]
[[Category:Ham radio operators]]
[[Category:Babyfurs]]
[[Category:Wolf characters]]
[[Category:Second Life characters]]
[[Category:Virginia]]
[[Category:1985 births]]

User:Softpaw

2012-02-22T14:16:17Z

Softpaw: I

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I'm Natasha Softpaw, and I like userboxes! Since putting a bio here would be fairly redundant, I'll point you to the article on [[Natasha Softpaw]] for more information.

Also, while I enjoy making new pages here on Wikifur, I kinda suck at getting all the formatting and such figured out, so I'm always thankful for those who come behind me and fix my contributions!

=== Contact Info ===
'''Email:''' [http://www.softpaw.eu/contact.php Click Here] (Email Form) 
'''AIM:''' NatashaSoftpaw 
'''MSN:''' greywolf@lupinia.us (Note: This is not a valid email address!) 
'''Y!:''' softpaw@ymail.com (Note: As with my MSN SN, this is not a valid email address)

=== Conventions Attended ===
'''[[Anthrocon]]:''' 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011 
'''[[Megaplex]]:''' 2004, 2005, 2006, 2010 
'''[[Midwest Furfest]]:''' 2008 
'''[[Western PA Furry Weekend]]:''' 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 

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Furry Teens

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'''Furry Teens''', also known as '''Teen Furs''', is an online community of [[furry fan]]s and [[artist]]s between the ages 13-25. Created in 2003 by [[Kit Wolf]], and hosted by [[Lupinia]].

*'''Addresses''':
**'''Website''': http://www.furryteens.org/
**'''Forum''': http://www.furryteens.org/forum
**'''Frapper''': <nowiki>http://www.frappr.com/furryteens</nowiki> (Frappr defunct)
**'''IRC''': irc://irc.furnet.org/furryteens
*'''Administration Team''':
**'''Forum Admin''': [[Natasha Softpaw]], [[Hale Laocon]], [[Spazzeh]]
**'''IRC Admin''': [[Atte]]
*'''Ran from/to''': 2003 - present
*'''Motto''': "''Introducing young furs to the fandom, one paw at a time''"

== History and services ==

Initially a [[Yahoo!]] Group, the community moved to a website format in 2003. Apart from the website and forum, there is also an [[IRC]] chatroom, a [[Furcadia]] [[dream]] by [[Flinch Ferrex]], an unofficial LiveJournal community (moderated by [[Shipanda]]), and a there was a [[Wikipedia:Frappr!|Frappr!]] page.

== Community's goals ==

Furry Teens is designed to be a place where a lot of creativity can be expressed by artists, [[writer]]s, gamers, and other furry fans. Furry Teens also encourages open-mindedness and innovation, along with giving and receiving support on "growing up" topics, and helping new furs better understand the furry fandom. The group aims to provide a safe haven for young members of the fandom, primarily minors, who are often unwelcome at other furry sites because of their age, and continues to grow in members and features.

== See also ==

* [[TeenageFurs]], a spin-off group created by former Furry Teens members

== External links ==

*[http://www.furryteens.org/ Furry Teens], main website
*[http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Furry-Teens/ Furry-Teens], original [[Yahoo!|Yahoo! group]]
*[http://web.archive.org/web/20070111204228rn_1/groups.yahoo.com/group/teenfurs/ Archive copy of Teen Furs Yahoo! group] at [[Wikipedia:Internet Archive|Internet Archive]]

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Natasha Softpaw

2012-02-12T10:28:21Z

Softpaw: Updated links to reflect website changes - The old ones redirect, but it's better to have the right link to begin with.

[[Image:Natasha_Softpaw_Mini-Badge.jpg|thumb|210px|right|Natasha Softpaw's main con badge. Art by [[MehndiX]].]][[Image:Natasha_Softpaw_Marci_Badge.jpg|thumb|210px|right|Natasha Softpaw's babyfur fursona. Art by [[Marci McAdam]].]]
'''Natasha Softpaw''', also known as '''Natasha Lockhart''', and as '''Natasha Petrichor''' on [[Second Life]], is a [[grey wolf]] [[fur]], born in August 1985. She is a professional web designer, with hobbies including amateur radio, nature photography, travelling, hiking, and off-roading. She's also [[transgender|transgendered]], and while she used to use a male fursona/identity on furry sites, she's in the process of changing this to reflect changes in her real life.

== Character forms ==
=== Adult ===
Natasha Softpaw is a female grey wolf in her late teens (about 17, give or take a year). She’s a light-hearted, fun-loving fur who seldom takes life seriously, and she has a very playful personality. Her favourite activities include hiking, photography, swimming, and just relaxing among the trees near her home. She’s had a strong love of nature (particularly trees and flowers) ever since she was a pup, and happily describes herself as a “tree-hugger”. And, while she spends much of her time alone, she also enjoys social activities with her closest friends.

Her build is best described as average, but short. She’s roughly 5’4”, but this can vary due to her digitgrade legs (her family’s canine roots are unusually strong). Her headfur is dark brown, more than halfway down her back in length, and she typically lets it flow loosely, having never been a fan of the constricting sensation of hair elastics. But, she does loosely tie it back for swimming or hiking (if it’s a hot day). She seldom wears skirts or dresses, preferring short denim shorts and T-shirts (or tank-tops) instead. And, she usually wears a small, silver pentacle necklace (five-pointed star in a circle). She also loves wearing flowers in her hair, they make her feel like she’s bringing the forest home with her when she heads back after a day of hiking.

[http://www.softpaw.eu/furry/ref-natasha.htm Description and reference images]

=== Babyfur ===
Natasha Softpaw is a female grey wolf puppy (about 2, give or take a year). She’s highly energetic, yet also quite affectionate, and she greatly prefers playing outside over staying inside. She has an affinity for exploration, but she’s rather timid, so she usually brings one of her plushies (her favourite is a river otter) along to “protect” her. Luckily, her parents have a large, forested backyard, so she can play in the woods without being in any real danger. She has a bit of an overactive imagination, and loves dreaming up wild fantasy scenarios, which keep her much too busy to be bothered with TV or video games. But, when bedtime comes, there are few things she enjoys more than a long bath (she loves water), and some snuggle time in the arms of her mommy.

She has pretty long headfur for her age, it’s nearly halfway down her back, and dark brown in colour. Her preferred style is to just let it flow loosely, but she spends a lot of time brushing it to keep it smooth and untangled. She doesn’t like wearing dresses, nor does she like wearing just a diaper, though she does like jumpers and shortalls. Her favourite colours are lavender and blue, and she hates yellow, with her wardrobe reflecting this. And, she loves bringing flowers back inside after a long day of playing, as well as tucking them in her hair (she thinks they look pretty, and they smell nice).

[http://www.softpaw.eu/furry/ref-natasha-bf.htm Description and reference images]

== Fandom involvement ==
To date, Natasha has attended 13 major furry conventions, including [[Anthrocon]], [[Megaplex]], and [[Midwest FurFest]], as well as number of mini-cons like [[Western Pennsylvania Furry Weekend|WPAFW]] and [[New Year's Furry Ball|NYFB]]. She attends local meets in the Pittsburgh and Washington, DC metro areas on a regular basis, as well as other nearby locations. She enjoys lending her expertise in website/community administration to a number of furry forums and websites, and recently, she's been involved with running large babyfur parties/social events at major furry cons.

She discovered the fandom on Halloween in 2003, and has been an avid member of the furry community ever since. Natasha has no relation to ''[[Softpaw Magazine]]'', nor should she be confused with the artist [[Kiffin Softpaw]].

== Lupinia ==
Natasha's website, [[Lupinia]], hosts several other websites, both furry related and otherwise. Among these are:
* [[Furry Teens]] , a general furry site geared toward a teen audience.
* [[House Rules]], the fan-colored version of ''[[Ozy and Millie]]''.
* The [[MILFurs|Military Furs]] forum, run by [[Flinch Ferrex]]

== External links ==
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=== Main websites and biography ===
* [http://www.softpaw.eu/ Lupinia Studios] - Natasha's website
* [http://www.softpaw.eu/personal/ Lupinia - About Natasha] - Natasha's personal bio on [[Lupinia]]

=== Social networking ===
* [http://natashasoftpaw.livejournal.com/ Lupinia on LJ] - Natasha's [[LiveJournal]]
* [http://softpaw.dreamwidth.org/ Softpaw] - Natasha's Dreamwidth account
* [http://twitter.com/lupinia Lupinia on Twitter] - Natasha's Twitter feed

=== Image galleries ===
* [http://www.softpaw.eu/personal/gallery.php Lupinia Studios Gallery] - Natasha's personal image gallery on [[Lupinia]]
* [http://www.softpaw.eu/furry/art.php Lupinia Studios Gallery (Furry)] - Natasha's furry art gallery on [[Lupinia]]
* [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/softpaw/ Softpaw] - Natasha's [[FurAffinity]] account
* [http://lupiniastudios.deviantart.com/ Lupinia Studios] - Natasha's [[DeviantArt]] account
* [http://www.flickr.com/photos/lupiniastudios/ Natasha's Flickr Photostream]

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Talk:Babyfur

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==Artist section==
This is my first time using a wiki, so if I'm doing something wrong, I apologize in advance. I was wondering, could I be added to the Babyfur artist section? I do exclusively babyfur art and sculpting, and I just finished my own page here. If not, I understand, but please let me know. - [[Degrey]]

== History section ==

I have added a basic timeline in the History section. I appreciate the several veteran babyfurs who responded to me privately with detailed history, but while I found them very interesting I also saw some of them to be too focused on a specific topic, and many of them contradicted one another (when and by whom the term 'Babyfurs' was coined, for example). So I instead pulled out the relevant information that I believe os accurate and compiled this timeline with details about various web pages, IRC channels, IRL gatherings, and the mailing list for babyfurs. My sources were [[Snuggems]], [[Proxima Centauri]], [[BitterGrey]], [[Swift Fox]] and my very own brain.

The dates look kind of screwy because I was searching for a way to show them in an organized way. I believe they are much easier to read now, but if an admin wants them to be in a specific format, feel free to fix it.

I don't want the timeline to remain this small. If anybody can add more pertinant dates to it, PLEASE DO! Throw in what you can, even if you think it's inappropriate or too drama-ish or whatever. If it doesn't belong, it will be corrected later on.

== Question ==
Just wondering if someone could add me to the bf artist section... Or maybe I'm to much of an unknown to be there?
Also, I didn't think it would be smart to write myself in... :3 -[[Te'Targa|Te'Targa]]

:Don't know enough about the topic to add you, but others might. Please don't remove or rephrase words from people in talk pages unless they are personal attacks on other people. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 08:08, 1 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Was that just a general statement or did I do that??? -[[Te'Targa|Te'Targa]]

:::[http://en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ABabyfur&diff=9529&oldid=9527] Perhaps you have censorware on the computer you were using that removed 'bad' words onload. {{User:Jellochuu/s}} 18:08, 1 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::::Ah... Sorry about that... Will refrain from doing any editing with that computer in the future... - [[Te'Targa|Te'Targa]]

== NPOV Alledged ==

Since NPOV is a case by case basis, and Crassus believes that article VII is not NPOV.. I'm going to mark the article NPOV. If an admin sees this and decides that the article should not be marked, please remove it. Thanks. [[User:Redcard|Redcard]] 12:23, 26 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Again, I ask that the admin please look over the tone and neutrality of the babyfur vs pedophilia section. [[User:Redcard|Redcard]] 18:13, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Babyfur and Pedophilia==

Is this section really necessary? Stating that we are against something that is patently illegal should be a no brainer. [[User:Redcard|Redcard]] 18:19, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)

: So you think that anything patently illegal should be automatically considered wrong? Technically, erotic furry art is illegal in Canada. It's considered zoophilic in nature. Yet, I seem to know many furries in Canada that still collect the stuff, and even draw it. --[[User:Crassus|Crassus]] 16:23, 2 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:I think it is necessary to include, because I know a lot of Babyfurs who are tired of the bad rep they've gotten from close-minded people who can't get their understanding of terminologies correct. Most babyfurs that I know are very open-minded and understanding of others. They're just tired of all the crap they've received from hateful, ignorant people. It really reflects on the state of the fandom as a whole. I think most furs can agree that we're all tired of getting a bad rep in mainstream society. Subsections within the fandom are also tired of suffering the same intolerant treatment from other furs. My only beef is that I think the article needs to be clear up a couple legal definition issues.

:--[[User:Crassus|Crassus]] 18:23, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::And I disagree. I don't believe that we need to be throwing the "we're not pedophiles" argument down in front of people. Nor do I believe that pedosexuality has any place in the core definition of babyfur. I'm not saying we have to take the sexuality out of babyfur, but we should not be in the business of running around proactively telling everyone that we are not pedophiles. This is supposed to be an encyclopedic reference type article, not a sounding board for pro-pedosexuality or anti-pedosexuality. It really doesn't need to be in this article. [[User:Redcard|Redcard]] 18:26, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::I DO agree with you strongly on that last notion. We shouldn't be dealing with having to be pro or anti ANYthing. That's what my whole beef is with the section of the article. The tenor floats about in a defensive posture. It should be neutral. It should simply say what it is, and clear up confusion as to what it's not. It shouldn't look or feel slanted. Slants can be left to HHGttG, not the Intergalactic Encyclopedia, as the repository for all knowledge and wisedom of the universe, so to speak. :)

::: But also, think of this: We can't even say the word "pedophile" without some people automatically attaching it to (im)moral conduct. Therefore, is it not up to the individual reader to be left to their own understanding on an issue to ultimately be non-biased? Very tough to do. Though, I think it needs to be done. All I'm saying is, reword the thing. I'd do it myself, but I doubt I have teh skills. :)

:::--[[User:Crassus|Crassus]] 18:35, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::: Redcard, the article is not "proactively" mentioning anything about pedophilia. Rather it is '''reactively''' mentioning it, because there already exists the mistaken notion that babyfurs are somehow involved with pedophilia. I believe that it is important to dispel that myth, and that the best way to do it is by mentioning that it is in fact, untrue. --[[User:Dmuth|Dmuth]] 18:58, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:::: dmuth, Understood. The problem I had is that it seemed to couple babyfur with pedo by using the conjunction and on top of the contrasting vs below. This would give the cursory glancer the wrong impression and was not in like form to the remainder of the article. Changing it to vs clarifies the contrasting elements within it.[[User:Redcard|Redcard]] 19:03, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)
: Yes, this part of the article is necessary was included because it's a precieved issue with the general fandom. Like it or not, babyfurs that do engage in sexual ageplay are often labeled as such. This section tries to draw the line between what is done in roleplay and what is done in real life (and what is illegal). -- [[User:Rama|Rama]] 18:42, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)

"...is patently illegal should..." Pedophilia is not illegal. {{User:Jellochuu/s}} 17:27, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:: Please make your revisions here and not on the main article, especially when a consensus has not been reached. Further, for revisions that change the context of an entire section of an article, you need to properly mark the edit as a major edit. Do not try to sneak major context changing edits in as minor edits. Thanks [[User:Redcard|Redcard]] 17:48, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:: Jello, I know you are wanting to remove the broad generalization. We , however, have reached a consensus at having a condemnation of pedophilia in this article. An acceptable compromise might be to remove the broad generalization of "all " and replace it with "most." But you are not going to remove the entire condemnation because you don't like its whole message.[[User:Redcard|Redcard]] 17:56, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::: Why is that even sentence there? It can't be true. The furry fandom doesn't have a spokesman and it's made up of different people with different opinions who have different ideas of what should be "accepted" or "condoned". The sentence claims that the entire (overall) furry fandom dislikes pedophilia. Where are you getting this? This is the opinion of whoever wrote that section, ''not'' the furry fandom. {{User:Jellochuu/s}} 17:58, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)
::: Why do you have to condemn pedophilia in the article? I'm not a furry, but I would have thought the fandom would be a bit more open-minded...
::: What statistics have you used to deduce that 'most' of the furry fandom dislikes pedophilia? Do you have a cite? {{User:Jellochuu/s}} 17:58, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::: So you are not a fur, and by nature, are not a babyfur. Look, we are babyfurs. We are the ones who have written this article. We will maintain the line as it is in many of our operating statements and codes of conduct. This article was written by consensus. It will NOT be changed by a single person, who is not even represented by the article, deciding that they don't like what it says. I'd rather all references to pedophilia be out entirely, but the consensus did not work that way. Work within the system, please. [[User:Redcard|Redcard]] 18:03, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)
::::: It doesn't matter if I'm not furry, and it doesn't matter if I'm not babyfur. These are immaterial. I've seen enough of the world to know that not everyone thinks the same about things, and I highly doubt furries are any different. So the concensus said to write it like that? That's like people writing history by a vote, to reflect whatever makes them look good; even if this isn't Wikipedia, WikiFur is intended record factual information. Concensus shouldn't determine fact. {{User:Jellochuu/s}} 18:11, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::: WHOA

:::: whoa whoa whoa whoa.

:::: ''Why do you have to condemn pedophilia in the article? I'm not a furry, but I would have thought the fandom would be a bit more open-minded...''

:::: If you're stepping in to provide a defense of the sexual exploitation of children in the name of inclusivity and tolerance, you've ''already'' lost the argument, no rebuttal necessary. End of story. --[[User:Rootdown|Rootdown]] 18:15, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)
::::: Gargh, pedophilia isn't the sexual exploition of children. I'm not defending anything, anyway, I'm saying we shouldn't be untruthfully stating all furs hate pedos. {{User:Jellochuu/s}} 18:17, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::::: I'm sure not *all* do, but I would hazard a guess that the vast majority of furs would say that engaging in a sexual act with a real child is not the right thing to do. This article will not be used to say that babyfurs are pedo nor will it be used to make it sound like that furs in general accept pedo. Why is it in the article...because many furs equate babyfurs with pedo. -- [[User:Rama|Rama]] 18:53, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::::::: I think that's where people are getting foncused. Pedophilia does not mean someone is doing something with a child in real life. It can be roleplayed with other adults. I know some people who are zoophile, but they've never done anything with an animal. Being attracted to something doesn't mean you're going to be involved in a criminal act. That's why I say, you're blurring the line between legalities and just being /attracted/ to something. --[[User:Crassus|Crassus]] 15:27, 2 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Note to Jellochuu: It seems your definition of pedophilia and pedophile is based on the clinical definition of the terms. However, the connotation of the term as used in society at large is something very, very different from its literal meaning. If your intention is accuracy, and I hope it is, then you will know that what you are writing are coming across with a very different interpretation than what the words you are using literally mean. [[User:Almafeta|Almafeta]] 19:38, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:Using the word 'pedophile' to describe a child molester is like using the word 'furry' to describe an animal rapist. If you mean child molester, ''then say child molester''. {{User:Jellochuu/s}} 17:11, 4 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Jello, I'm all for "calling things what they are", and in the context it is used in the article, the word "pedophile" is calling it what it is. --[[User:Zhaleskra|Zhaleskra]]
:::The article has been fixed now. Prior to that, "pedophile" was used to mean someone who molests children. This is prejudicial, racist, and inaccurate. Babyfurs who don't know the difference between a pedophile and child molester should be ashamed. [[User:Jello|Jello]] 23:28, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

::::Do you honestly expect us to respect the opinion of someone who resorts to setting up the straw man of calling "racist" on an issue that has nothing to do with race? Telling other people how they should feel is not an effective way to debate. Yet all I see you doing is screaming "I'm right, you're wrong, and you're also stupid for not thinking like me". [[User:Zhaleskra|Zhaleskra]] 14:47, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

== Some true thoughts and feelings ==

Grrf.. this is getting ridiculous. The entire deal is showing quite clearly the very paranoia and fear within babyfur community on being labelled pedophiles; so much so that they're condemning another sexual preference to save their own name. It's what the gays did during the pride movement in the 70's and 80's, and it's what the burned furs did in the last few years amongst other furries more kinky than them. People want to wash their hands of things when someone accuses someone of something that puts them in a compromising position. They display outward hatred toward the ideal behind the accusation, effectively labeling and outcasting someone else to save their neck.

Roman dude: "You know Jesus! I saw you with him!", Peter: "I don't know him!"

This is what's happening in this article. That's what I take offense to. By condemning pedosexuality in this article, you are being biased, you're being self-centric, and successfully fulfilling the very stereotype about babyfur that they're over-reactive and immature when it comes to sexual issues.

You're being prejudice and discriminatory. Wanna know how it feels? Take this for example: "For being into something like putting diapers on in public and shitting in them in private hotel rooms while sucking on pacifiers and being coo'ed to like you're 2 years old, you certainly seem to have closed minds."

Oh, I'm sorry.. You think that's not true? You think that's biased? Well, now you know how '''I''' feel. I'm not ill. I don't have a sickness. I'm not raping or molesting children. I refuse to fit into this little cube of an idea that some know-it-all shrink bastard decided upon a 125 years ago.

The following portion of the article is biased, it's hypocritical, and it's wrong:

"However, as with the general population, a very small subset of babyfurs may also be pedophiles. Such interests and activities are neither accepted by nor condoned by most babyfurs. While there have been legal incidents in the past with some furries involved with pedophilia, they have not been specifically identified as babyfurs."

This paragraph should be removed. It's unfounded, it's biasd, it's reactionary, and it implies things by context. It's outcasting people.

Did you ever stop to think that those babyfurs who just might happen to have the feelings and attractions you're condemning might feel a bit bad? People you know and love might feel quite rejected by your words. Is that your goal? To clear out all the evil doers?

:Holy CRAP. Are you for real? You're worried about how PEDOPHILES FEEL? JESUS MARY MOTHER OF CHRIST what kind of POS are you?
::I agree, mate. Compassion, on my planet? What the fuck? [[User:24.224.153.40|24.224.153.40]] 22:51, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

::Please read the poster's words. The concern is that it implies that babyfurs are pedophiles by association, and that such association would make babyfurs ''in general'' feel bad. It is not saying that people should feel sorry for pedophiles. Personally, I ''do'' feel sorry for them, not for their acts (which most have at least some measure of control over, if only by staying away from children), but for the fact that they posess the desire (which is not really something that can be helped - it's like saying people can avoid being attracted to members of the opposite sex [or the same sex, where applicable]). --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 04:53, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

IMO, WikiFur ''SHOULD'' be NPOV. It's the responsible thing to do for this community.

=== Solution ===

I'm working on a revision that I hope I'll be able to finish soon that will hopefully satisfy the majority of the people without trampling on others needlessly. The moment I can finish it, I'll post it here.

I just wish to God you guys could understand how whoever wrote this article is sounding.

--[[User:Crassus|Crassus]] 16:07, 2 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:I wish to God you'd understand that we ALL wrote this article, Crassus. Nobody owns the article. It's all of ours. I wish you'd understand that we KNOW exactly how it sounds because we wrote it to sound that way. Maybe you need to write your own article on pedosexuality or something. But please, leave a well written and solid consensus article alone, please? [[User:Redcard|Redcard]] 16:54, 5 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::See, but the problem is, this article does NOT just belong to the BF crowd. It belongs to ALL furries. It's not a sales pitch for your fetish, it's an objective assessment from ALL angles, not just yours. And that includes the opinions of the rest of the fandom too.

:::That's fair enough. Please don't try to drown out other people by shouting over them in bold text, though. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 04:53, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

==Sex and Babyfurs==
Okay, we've had a lot of furor over this right now. Let me sum how I see that section of the article right now:
*People mistake babyfur activities as being pedophilia. This is not the same thing. I feel the new title edit makes that clear.
*Some babyfurs are interested in sex in babyfur persona, some are not. Of those, some age-play with adults, some age-play with other babyfurs.
*We can't totally say that no babyfur ever is a pedophile, because we just don't know. No one identified as a BF has ever been involved in legal action regarding sexual conduct with a minor.

I think at this point, we may need a seperate article on Age-play and how it relates to the fandom.

[[User:MelSkunk|MelSkunk]] 19:16, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:I don't. I think we should simply link to Wikipedia's already very detailed entry on the matter. Ageplay is not a "furry" topic. It has links in that it is a sexual kink, but it in no way deals with "furryness".

:--[[User:Crassus|Crassus]] 19:26, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, but once again I'm going to have to disagree on something that was recently added:

"Many babfurs do not include a sexual element to their interests."

First off, there's a typo for "babyfurs". Secondly, just because there is not a sex act being performed in the scene does not mean they aren't receiving sexual gratification from the scene. Many a time, when someone pulls off one of those diapers, you're bound to see evidence that the person's being stimulated mentally. The above statement is phrased in a way that lends to the notion that there is no sexual element involved at all, which is definately not the case. The same goes for pedophilia in many cases. Merely seeing kids playing or acting "boyish/girlish" is enough to be stimulating. (Again, not passing judgement in either AB or BL/GL issues. Simply stating the facts.)

--[[User:Crassus|Crassus]] 19:42, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)

: I know quite a few that do not include sexual play in with their babyfur play. -- [[User:Rama|Rama]] 19:50, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::I just said that. Just because there's no actual sexual '''play''' does '''not''' mean there isn't a '''sexual element''' or gratification from the '''non-sexual''' act.

::--[[User:Crassus|Crassus]] 19:52, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::: For some, I'm sure it's just like you are trying to explain, while there is no direct stimuli, there's is mental stimuli. However, realise that being a babyfur and wearing a diaper or doing anything else connected with babyfurs in real lif is not the same thing. There are babyfurs out there that they like roleplaying young characters but would not do anything outside of that roleplay. -- [[User:Rama|Rama]] 19:58, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::::That doesn't mean there isn't a sexual element, though. Sexuality revolves around a much more expansive circle than direct stimulation. Sometimes the very feeling of comfort derived from non-sexual activity can result in stimulation, or at least be conducive toward feeling more sexually inclined and "in-tune" so to speak. I'll give you an example. Suppose someone can't "get it up" unless they're wearing a Marylin Monroe wig. The moment they put that wig on, even if it has nothing to do with sex directly, provides an element which enables them to feel sexually enabled. Diapers and such are a paraphernalia to that degree. Granted, that doesn't include everyone. Nothing is 100%, but I bet you it's the majority of them.

::::--[[User:Crassus|Crassus]] 19:52, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::::Passing observation on this discussion - it would seem to be getting a little bit into the abstraction of just what constitutes sexuality, sexual stimulation, feedback, mental states, etc. Which isn't a bad topic or anything. In point of fact, I think more people need education on it, and there are a lot of primitive / simplistic viewpoints floating around, IMHO. One reason why things like furry sexuality in general may be misunderstood or shocking to outsiders at first glance. However, I do wonder how well the abstractions help the issue of trying to describe the issues surrounding the babyfur topic. It's clearly a topic for discussion about it because there have been so many misunderstandings. There is just the practical issue remaining of how to integrate all of this into an encyclopedic entry.

:::::--{{UT|ToyDragon}}

::::: For some...yes. But not for all. What babyfur means to you is not necessiarily what babyfur means to others. This article was written in the hopes to cover as many bases as possible. There are babyfurs out there that have no intrest in the sexual ageplay. They just like to play innocent characters. There is '''no''' connection of a diaper and a fetish object to them. To deny that these babyfurs exist is a disservice to them and a misrepresentation of the community. -- [[User:Rama|Rama]] 20:12, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::::::The problem that I see in trying to clear off the name of Babyfurs for a clear definition is the fact "Babyfur" is associated tightly with so many other sexual kinks: AD/BL, infantilism, watersports, scat, ageplay, overalls and clothing, baby oil, etc..... I don't see any other way to view it as just an adaptation of the kink, whether it be inherently sexual or not, it's still a kink, with a tail stuck on it. Furryness aside, adult babies for the most part is in fact a sexual element added to their life. Wikipedia's entry on [[Wikipedia:Infantilism]] even mentions this:

::::::"Some forms of infantilism are purely regressive, without any sexual content. After an individual has reached full maturity, including a fully independent living situation, as well as stabilized in his or her long term sexual role in society, most infantilists report having incorporated certain aspects of sexuality into their infantilism. However, some few adult infantilists report never having done so. Even though some infantilists may never incorporate any aspects of sexuality into their practice, most adult infantilists would agree that their practice of infantilism has minimally had a profound effect on their sexuality, if not having been a direct part of it."

::::::--[[User:Crassus|Crassus]] 23:05, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::::: And this is not Wikipedia, but rather a wikicities site on wikipedia. Why don't you detail fixes instead of just pointing out what's wrong , so that we may discuss fixes instead of your amporphous ideals, and then we can vote on those suggestions? If you're just going to point out what's wrong, you need to leave. You're not contributing to WikiSociety. [[User:Redcard|Redcard]] 23:12, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::::::Actually.. we aren't connected to Wikipedia in anyway. Wikicities is privately owned and financed, but respects similar values to Wikipedia and the Wikimedia Foundation. ;) -[[User:Nidonocu|Nidonocu]] - [[User talk:Nidonocu|talk]] [[Image:Trans 168.png|16px|Nidonocu]] 01:47, 26 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:::::::: Ah.. you are correct. I was thinking that Wales founded Wikipedia under Wikia, but he chose not to. Regardless, according to the wikicity creation policy , we do operate with a tit-for-tat relationship with Wikipedia. Also, it is expected upon reading the wikicities information that Wikisociety still take place in the same manner as it would on a wikipediaproject vs a wikia project. (Which was created thusly to be a commercial entity) [[User:Redcard|Redcard]] 02:09, 26 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::::: I believe you mean "amorphous". Really now. Don't hold back your real feelings about me. I've contributed to a number of other articles which I openly know more about than this, and for that very reason, I don't even assume to know everything about a subject that I myself have never participated in, but such arrogance to assume that a higher definition can be obtained through individual personal opinion rather than the collective thoughts of the many, plus outside sources like Wikipedia and thefreedictionary.com... that just boggles me blind. I don't dare to add or subtract from this entry simply because I know that I don't know everything about it. But, I do know a little about ageplay matters, and sexuality in general is rather a hobby of mine to study. I know that in the US, we've obtained such a high degree of puritanical BS to make us want to hide and cover up our true natures, which is the direct force behind so much of our conflicting and ambiguous ideals... to me, this entire matter is simply a matter of covering things up and making us "feel" better just because something isn't socially accepted. It's the entire problem we as furs as a whole have. We can't face reality, and that, Red, is more of a hinderance than any "non"-contribution that I could dish out. Sorry for the difference of opinion. --[[User:Crassus|Crassus]] 00:02, 26 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::::::Will you get to the POINT , Crassus? Please? What do you want? We are not going to turn this into a boylove article, so forget about that. Further, the purpose of this article is not to explore the sexuality of babyfur, but to explore babyfur on the whole. So.. will you please tell us what you want or drop it? Yes, you're very clearly into pedophilia, and yes, you do not like the "puritanical" viewpoints, and yes, you think that , from reading things.. everyone should be allowed to have sex, both pedo and non. Forget what I think of your viewpoints, and just get to the point about what you want to see in this article. The next thing out of your mouth had best not be a diatribe about how evil society is for not letting you have sex with children, and better be something about THIS article. [[User:Redcard|Redcard]] 00:21, 26 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::::::::Fine. Let me spell it out. Again. (I already did so up there somewhere.) Section VII of the article is biased and it should NOT be biased. Change it.

::::::::"Yes, you're very clearly into pedophilia, and yes, you do not like the "puritanical" viewpoints"

:::::::: You say that like it's a bad thing to be open minded and not a bigot. And no, I'm not "into pedophilia". That's stupid. Pedophilia is a modern clinical term coined in the 1800's by some victorian know-it-all shrink dude for a biased point of view during the height of the anti-child-labor movement as part of the backlash to the industrial revolution. During the 20th century it got taken a step further and it got turned not only from a term for a paraphilia, but also a blurred connotation for child rape and molestation, which is NOT part of the equation. Think of it this way: It would be like forcing someone into a diaper who doesn't want to have one. It's not consentual. Rape is rape, no matter the age. So, no. I am '''not''' into pedophilia. Sorry. --[[User:Crassus|Crassus]] 05:57, 26 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::::::::::Section VII is staying the way it is until someone proposes a change and that changes gets voted on. Simply saying change it is not helpful since it does not offer us something to change it to. So, again, please make a suggestion or leave. You're not even a babyfur, Crassus, why the hell is this bothering you so much? The babyfurs by and large seem okay with it. (Oh, and by the way, we're allowed to be biased here. NPOV is not strictly enforced here. You might want to read the wikifur policy. Please also note that it says to consult an admin, and so far two admins have looked this page over and think its just fine..)[[User:Redcard|Redcard]] 12:04, 26 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::::::::::'''HOW''' is section VII bias? All I seem to be getting from you and this conversation is you [Crassus] wanting to remove the section that says not all babyfurs get sexual stimulation from it. If that's all you want, I've already told you, many times, that it's not true. I know a few that do not cross that line. I also know a few babyfurs that do not even get involved in real life with it, all they do is roleplay young characters on a muck or such. I can see your confusion as the first line of the article states that a babyfur is an ab/dl furry. They do make up a chunk of the general babyfur population, but not all of them. Again, that's not always true and I corrected that.

::::::::::Also, to the both of you, please stop the personal attacks. This is '''NOT''' the place for them. -- [[User:Rama|Rama]] 13:57, 26 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Revisions==

How do we offer proposed revisions for the entry? --[[User:Crassus|Crassus]] 18:36, 26 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:Well, one possibility is simply write out the text that you have in mind and put it right here. --[[User:DuncanDaHusky|Duncan da Husky]] 18:37, 26 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I had a good talk with a friend of mine who is a babyfur, and has given me some insight into things. I'm going to see what people think.

A babyfur = A fur who labels themself as someone who fits into the babyfur ideals. Those ideals mean any or all of the following:

*Might or might not be into infantilism, AB/DL, or any range of various sexual interests at any varying degree.
*Ageplaying an extremely young age: birth through pre-schooler age.
*Might find their play sexual.
*Might find the age they roleplay sexual.
*Might find diapers and other paraphernilia sexual. They may wear diapers for whatever reason, whether it be for fun, to feel emotionally comforting, to be enabled sexually, or for medical conditions.
*Might not find any of the play sexual, but enjoys it on a level.
*Might talk funny ICly.
*Might talk funny OOCly.
*Might be a pedosexual, might not be.
*Might RP, might not. Might RP RL, some only online.

More to come as I think of it. At this point, I'm really confused as to how we can define something that no one really agrees upon. I guess just to offer different definitions. --[[User:Crassus|Crassus]] 00:26, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)

: Everything you've said in this is already in the article somewhere...or am I missing something? -- [[User:Rama|Rama]] 21:53, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)

: Isn't this a tad broad? "any range of various sexual interests at any varying degree." Then "but enjoys it on a level." What does that mean? It is NOT necesarily a sexual enjoyment, unless you think everything is sexual, then food is sexual too, and movies, and biking... I think that statement is redundant. If they didn't enjoy it (they suffered it?) they wouldn't do it, would they? --[[user:Tundu|Tundu]] 00:53, Aug 31 2005 (UTC)

:: Sorry, lemme clarify. "Any range of various sexual interests in some way related to the type of stuff related to babyfur"... .. heh, or even sometimes /not/ related to babyfur. Sexual interests overlap sometimes, which is the whole problem with trying to group people together with a label. Personally I think the idea of labeling intangible ideals is a bit old fashioned and like theoretical physics, has no clear-cut end and simply will never be boiled down to anything.

:: My writing of those "revisions" was only to point this very fact out. I was being rather incredulous with it. I'm trying to sort out definitions as I go along. I'm learning at the same time everyone else is. --[[User:Crassus|Crassus]] 16:18, 2 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Very personal opinion ==

To me, one of the most retarded things about being human is that humans take a LONG time until they can do anything useful. They cry a lot, getting on everyone's nerves. They take a long time to learn to walk. And I'm not even getting into the messy aspects here .... In my opinion, most species (especially those popular among furry fans) have a much more graceful childhood, and I feel it's best to leave it so without adding negative aspects of the early years of every human. Give me baby kittens any day, but I'm not sure if I'm ever up to having children of my own .... (End personal ramble, I know that others have a different taste.)
- [[User:Unci|Unci]] 10:15, 11 Nov 2005 (UTC)

:Just a random thought inspired from that. I'd be willing to bet that more than a handful of babyfur fans are, even if just subconsciously, thinking about childhood of the animal species which is considered more graceful than human infancy. While they may symbolize it with humanoid decorations like diapers, a number of the babyfurs I know personally tend to envision juvinile character which are really not very "human" at all. - [[User:ToyDragon|ToyDragon]]

== Reverting 67.176.94.60's edit ==

I removed the following text that was entered by 67.176.94.60:
:* Distaste from being in line at a convention near a babyfur who has just filled his diapers and the entire hall with an unholy stench ('mainstream' babyfurs make a show of not approving of such individuals, yet they constantly make unwelcome appearances at conventions and in emo-laden LJ posts).

The author may have a point, but I felt that the text was a little inflamatory. Anyone want to take a shot at toning it down? --[[User:Dmuth|Dmuth]] 04:37, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

:I've made [http://en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=Babyfur&diff=42199&oldid=42193 a few edits]. It obviously is an unfortunate situation to be in, and one which the individuals concerned should not have placed the group surrounding them in.

:I would note that there's probably only so much mainstream babyfurs feel they can do about their bretheren, and it probably doesn't help if they feel that their options are siding with a group that denounces them as pedophiles or a group that soils their pants occasionally. To take a similar example, are furries more likely to want to go along with those who claim furries are all [[skunkfucker]]s, or of other members of the fandom who are just fine with them (despite seeming to have a few too many [[plush toy]]s for their age)? And if they decided it was worth the derision of those that they craved acceptance from, what exactly could they do? Stop being furry out of protest? Too many people have been forced to make that choice, IMO.

:I think such things can be solved more simply with public rules about what is acceptable in a given area. If there is enough consensus about something, then it should be a clear rule about it that people are willing to enforce. This lets others say, "well, this is how it is - if you soil yourself in public, you'll be banned, and you'll have to sit in the hotel room without us, so don't" without feeling that they've let a fellow babyfur down. Punish the objectionable action directly, and it is likely to go away. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 05:38, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

::I haven't registered with WikiFur yet as I'm still deciding on an appropriate username. Having an example of exactly a particular behavior that leads to distrust from "mainstream" furries is good, and I feel that describing the offending behavior explicitly is bad. --Zhaleskra (for now)

:::I registered, and I apologize for the use of quotes around mainstream in the above comment. [[User:Zhaleskra|Zhaleskra]] 15:17, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

== "Section VII" ? ==

(from the "Facts and Myths" section) "... See section VII about the difference between babyfurs and pedophiles ..."

Section VII seems to be a timeline, and I didn't see anything there explaining the difference. An error? --[[User:Chibiabos|Chibiabos]] 04:33, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

:Probably - referring to sections with numbers never really works out so well on a wiki. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 04:34, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

== Artists ==

I removed Genesis Whitmore after having looked through her website and not seeing any significant representation of babyfur artwork, I don't think there are many babyfurs who have even heard of her or are familiar with her work. I'm sure she's done a commission or two for one or two individuals but if that was the metric for determining what constitutes a babyfur artist, I think the list of artists would be several times longer than what it is now.

I also corrected some of the goofy stuff Skippyfox wrote about me a while back. --[[User:Rootdown|Rootdown]] 23:04, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

:Thanks for explaining. I was wondering, since there wasn't an edit summary. Not that the rest of the article is much better in this respect (it really needs a thorough de-fluffing), but are you able to give any references for phrases like "sudden popularity" or "ongoing controversies"? To a reader who isn't involved in the babyfur community it's not really clear what you're talking about. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 23:30, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

::I am reverting the artists section back (and shortening it slightly). The "goofy stuff Skippyfox wrote" is a perfectly sensical description of Astolpho's artistic style. However the changes he (Rootdown) made to the paragraph about himself entirely evade the NPOV guidelines. I'm sure we can all agree that, much to Astolpho/Rootdown's disappointment, Wikifur is _not_ a popularity contest.

::If anybody wants to contest this change please bring it to this Discussion before making any edits. [[User:Skippyfox|skippyfox]] 16:46, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

:::It isn't difficult to understand why a comparison to [[Wikipedia:Precious Moments|Precious Moments]] might be considered unflattering. Perhaps it would be more precise to describe Astolpho's style simply as "characterized by light, open outlines; pastel-like colors; and innocent expressions"? [[User:Bittergrey|BitterGrey]] 04:00, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

::::That seems like a reasonable, neutral description; the Precious Moments comparison seems unnecessarily pejorative. I'll swap that phrase out. ----[[User:DuncanDaHusky|DuncanDaHusky]]([[User talk:DuncanDaHusky|talk]]) 13:56, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

== View on Paraphilia Section from newcomer ==

I know nobody likes a latecomer to a long, contentious debate, but IMO the 'Babyfur as paraphilia' section is a mess of denials, evasive language, and compromises, and is just the sort of content that damages the credibility wiki-like projects-- not because the subject is unattractive, but because of the presentation itself. Sorry, I know that sounds abrasive. If it helps... I think it's nicely written and laid out, as well as very much worth getting right. Anyway...

It would be fine if the article asserted that for most or all babyfurs, babyfur has no sexual activity or erotic intent. From THAT basis you could argue that Babyfur is not characteristically a paraphilia. But that assertion ISN'T made. Without it, there is NO basis to POSITIVELY ASSERT that babyfurs aren't pedophilies, as the article strongly suggests when it says: "Babyfurs are not inherently pedophiles," (What purpose does the word 'inherently' serve in this sentence other than to allow it to suggest something without worrying about the facts?) and when it prominently lists the leadingly phrased bullet point: "false beliefs that all babyfurs are pedophiles." (What about aversions attaching to beliefs that a few, or many, babyfurs are pedophiles?)

But if babyfur IS characteristically erotic or sexualized, it is pedophilia, which is simply a paraphilia whose object is children (even if only in fantasy, e.g., fanatasies involving them having ears and a tail).

I understand the difference between pedophilia and sexually assaulting actual children; this is absolutely not the place to discuss what link may exist between the two. But is the goal of all this evasiveness to escape the inaccurate stigma of child molestation that attaches to harmless fantasy pedophilia? Denying the accurate use of the word 'pedophile' with a reinvention of the term is a bad way to do that, and not the proper aim of a wiki entry, in my n00b-to-wikia opinion.

The paraphilia section of the article needs to either:
1) Assert clearly that babyfur is NOT characteristically sexual (which it certainly can be even if the rest of furry art and RP also is, so regardless, drop that argument in the first paragraph),
2) do NOT remark at all on whether babyfur is pedophilic,
3) assert that it's unknown whether babyfur is characteristically sexualized, and that if it is, it's pedophilic, or
4) assert clearly that babyfur IS charateristically sexualized, and that babyfur *is* pedophilic.

Those're the only things the article can do if it wants to be, and sound, honest.

In the latter two cases, there could also be remarks contrasting Pedophilia and child molestation, though again I think it's beyond the scope both of wikifur and the expertise of people contributing here to make definitive remarks about that. --[[furthling]]

:While I'm not particularly wedded to the current wording of this section of the article, I think you're missing the point that it's trying to make:
{{q|While babyfurs roleplay as underage characters, this doesn't mean that they are sexually attracted to children.}}
:As I understand it, babyfurs typically want ''to be'' children (whether or not they want to have sex as children), while [[Wikipedia:pedophilia|pedophilia]] is about being about sexual attraction ''with'' children. So, seems like it would be quite possible for babyfurs to be sexualized without they themselves being pedophilic - unless you think that babyfurs always have [[TinySex]] with one another, which I'm pretty sure is not the case. Those who take the babyfur role in such activities want to fantasize about being children having sex with adults (which could be anything from "brotherly love" to rape fantasies), ''not'' adults having sex with children (pedophilia). Of course, the people who ''do'' have TS with them are kinda stuck with the term. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 05:26, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
::GreenReaper's answer hit the nail on the head. There is a subject-object difference. To further reduce the dependence on language, here are some numbers: A typical babyfur, if paraphilic, might fall under 302.83 in the APA's [[Wikipedia:Diagnostic_and_Statistical_Manual_of_Mental_Disorders| Diagnostic and Statistical Manual]]. While only one sentence long and unfortunately under the header of "sexual masochism," this is the most [[Wikipedia:Verifiability|verifiable]] definition for infantilism. The book is available in many US libraries. In contrast, pedophilia is in section 302.2. (A fur with a diaper fetish would be 302.81.) 302.83's (masochists, infantilists) focus on their own position, with themselves as the subject. 302.2 (pedophiles) focus on children, with those children being the object. Each are categorized differently by the APA.[[User:Bittergrey|BitterGrey]] 11:11, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
:::The DSM is not the author of the concept of Pedophilia, a phenomenon that has been under constant observation by society since prehistory. Moreover, the DSM's definition of pedophilia is notoriously contentious-- so much so that, side by side with a dictinoary of spoken english, there's should be no contest.
:::Even if the APA's views on pedophilia were rock-solid, standard usage should take precedence over technical UNLESS wikifur's audience is understood to be a community of psychiatric professionals. Verifiable expertise in that field might be brought in to comment on the state of the DSM with re: infantilism and pedophilia, and whether research has been done into the correlation between babyfurs and pedophilia, if it's available and deemed appropriate.
:::I appreciate the importance of noting that sexualized babyfur doesn't prove anybody's a child molestor or thinking about becoming one. But that doesn't excuse tacking on an exclusion to the definition of pedophilia for situations where one of the objects of the sexualized fantasy about a child is narrated from a quasi-first-person PoV.
:::In english, if babyfur is characteristically sexualized, it is pedophilic. Pretending otherwise is a disaster for the (perceived) intellectual honesty of that section of the article. So is the appearance of positive assertions that babyfurs aren't pedophiles or pederasts, without sufficient evidence. --[[User:Furthling|Furthling]] 16:28, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
::::Pedophilia is the personal desire on the part of an adult to have sex with children, not the desire to have sex with others as a child. That ''is'' the [http://www.answers.com/topic/pedophilia dictionary definition]. It's the same situation as the difference between [[Wikipedia:Sadism and masochism|sadism and masochism]], or being a top vs. being a bottom - while some may share both as a pleasure, there's no guarantee of that, nor is it the default (that's why most MUCKs have a [[Wikipedia:switch (BDSM)|switch]] option in their [[wixxx]]). The same goes for reading stories or appreciating artwork - it depends on who you identify with. Perhaps we need to explain that a little better, and note that we're talking about the people who take part in it or enjoy it rather than the "genre", as it were - but if readers don't understand the meaning of the word, even after having it explained to them, that's not really our fault. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 19:06, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
::::Maybe we could just quote a song to explain (although this tends towards the non-consensual side of things):
:::::''Sweet dreams are made of this Who am I to disagree? Travel the world and the seven seas Everybody's looking for something Some of them want to use you Some of them want to get used by you Some of them want to abuse you Some of them want to be abused
::::The point we need to make clear in the article is that while all of these people may like the idea of a child taking part in such a scene, they are different groups that do so for different reasons. Some of them want children, some of them want to be a child. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 19:37, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::I respectfully disagree re: the common usage and dictionary definition. Most definitions and common usage do NOT restrict pedophilia to actual acts with children. Oxford Concise English Dictionary 10th edition (1999): ''''Paedophile (Us Pedophile) n. a person who is sexually attracted to children. -Derivatives paedophilia, paedophilic.'''' If babyfur is characteristically sexualized and IF the presence of children is a sina qua non of the attraction to babyfur, then babyfur is a sexual attraction to children (fantasy or not), and is pedophilic. Splitting hairs over what it is they're "really" attracted to is just a shells game being played to lose the meaning in the shuffle. And that's very much what comes across in the paraphilia section.

:::::At very least, assertions about whether babyfur is pedophilic, either way, should be expanded or stricken. Why not be up front and tell the reader that babyfur is characteristically sexual fantasy entertained by adults about children, and let them decide for themselves? Or is that something the article intends to obfuscate? (Assuming that it is. As I've said previously, I don't regard my knowledge of sexual babyfur RP, etc, as sufficient to characterize it with re: sexual content. OTOH I've yet to hear anybody object that it often or usually isn't, though I may have missed remarks made.)

:::::Also, I hasten to point out that if you feel it's important to make clear that different babyfur fans have different interests and motives, again, making positive assertions that certain motives are not prominent is contrary to your aims as well as made with insufficient evidence.

:::::At any rate, I think I've made as clear as I can where I think the problem lies with the section of the article. Thanks you for your attention. --[[User:Furthling|Furthling]] 02:13, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

::::::Hmm. I guess we'll have to find some babyfurs who are willing to speak on the record about their motives. :-) But still, your point hinges on being attracted to children. My understanding is that it is possible to play a child and to want to be sexually active without actually wanting to have sex with other children, and that's why this section says what it says now. It's not the babyfurs that are the pedophiles - it's the people who want to have sex with them (who may or may not be babyfurs themselves).

::::::Indeed, the concept of having an adoptive caretaker as "mummy" and "daddy" seems quite common. If this relationship were sexual, then the caretaker would be sexually attracted to a child (the definition of pedophilia), but the child would be sexually attracted to an adult. They just happen to prefer to play as a child - probably for one of the many reasons detailed earlier in the article.

::::::Telling them that something is "characteristically X" is probably not something we should be doing, as it's making a wide judgment without the proof to back it up. I ''suspect'' there is likely to be proof - or at least stated opinion - confirming both sides. We can't really ignore the topic, otherwise our coverage won't be complete. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 02:45, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

:::::::The question "...that it is possible to play a child and to want to be sexually active without actually wanting to have sex with other children," is not something I've contended either way, and I don't see its relevance. The question at hand is adults with an interest in children in sexual fantasies. But if after consideration you think that's really, no more and no less, what the article says, I'd be happy to help clarify where it says things otherwise.

:::::::At the kind of risk one always takes asking about what should be obvious, are we clear that an adult enjoying babyfur art, RP, fantasy, or literature is ''not'' any of the characters involved, no matter how much they identify with them? That even one's own character in RP is, properly, an *object* of interest (sexual or otherwise)?

:::::::I strongly agree we shouldn't assert "babyfur is characteristically sexual" until there's a consensus that that's what the evidence shows. But I don't agree that the form "characteristically x" is bad, especially re: a genre of art, for example, that is necessarily broadly defined. Not because I know as much about policy as you, Greenreaper, but because I can't envision any alternative.

:::::::I also agree that coverage shouldn't ignore the topic. But so long as we're in the dark about it, is it good policy to make remarks like: "Babyfurs are not inherently pedophiles?" That's a positive assertion with the implicit positive assertion that babyfur isn't characteristically sexual. And we don't know that to be true any more than we know the opposite to be true.

:::::::I think (you'll tell me if I misunderstand something about the way wiki projects in general or wikifur particularly, works) that if the view that there's nothing sexual going on in babyfur is present, it should be presented in the article. (My own experience *is* sufficient to say that a statement like 'There's little or no sexual activity in babyfur," is false, but I don't constitute a consensus. :) ) If the view that there's something sexual going on in babfur is present, that view should also be presented. Remarks about babyfur as a paraphilia would have to be specific to those presentations.

:::::::I think the article already implicitly takes the stance, by mentioning it in the first place, that there's sexualized content in babyfur.--[[User:Furthling|Furthling]] 03:47, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

::::::::The issue I have has always lies with the statement "3) assert that it's unknown whether babyfur is characteristically sexualized, and that if it is, it's pedophilic". I think that the first part of that is closest to the truth of the matter, but I don't see that the second part follows . . . unless you're talking about the ''other'' people in those sexual relations. This article in general and that section in particular is about babyfurs, not people who have TinySex with babyfurs, so I have presumed that you are not.

::::::::To lay it out simply: if there is sexual activity between an adult and a child, then there is pedophilia, but that does not imply that the child is the pedophile - which is what "Babyfurs are not inherently pedophiles," is trying to point out. The "Babyfur problem" has historically been that a lot of people do assume just that. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 04:32, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

:::::::::Well, I don't think it says that, but have no suggestions for a rephrase so long as you use the word pedophilia, because (if that's what you mean) you're falsely denying pedophilia based on the inaccurate notion that situations that don't involve an actual act between an adult and a child aren't pedophilic (they are. fantasies can be and are pedophilic), and because when you say: "that does not imply that the child is the pedophile" I'm pretty sure you're referring to the child character in the RP, who is obviously not the issue. The adult playing him or her is.
:::::::::Keep the article as it is, and everyone who knows what pedophilia is and discovers there's sex play among babyfurs will regard the paraphilia section, at best, as deceitful.
:::::::::Promise I'm done now, you know my thoughts. --[[User:Furthling|Furthling]] 05:15, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

::::::::::OK. I'm actually been rewriting it as we've been speaking here.
::::::::::I still think you're misunderstanding what I'm saying, though. Specifically, I'm ''not'' saying that actual acts have to be involved. I'm saying that the adult who is performing the child's role in such activities cannot be assumed to be a pedophile through their participation in that role, because they're not enjoying the fantasy of having sex with a child. They're enjoying the fantasy of '''being''' a child and having sex with an adult. That's a ''different fantasy'', just as the fantasy of being covered in whipped cream is different from the fantasy of covering someone else with whipped cream. There's pedophilic fantasies involved, to be sure, but they're demonstrated by the person playing the adult character, not the person playing the child.
::::::::::Ignoring the question of whether "virtual or real?" matters, it's inaccurate to call babyfurs pedophiles unless they actually have an interest in having sex with children. Probably some do have such interests, but that's not implied by the above roleplay unless they take the "adult" role. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 05:53, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

:::::::::::I think I did understand what you're saying, but that we disagree about something else. I acknowledge that there's a difference, probably a meaningful one, between an adult enjoying the fantasy of being an adult engaged in sex acts with a child, and an adult enjoying the fantasy of being a child engaged in sex acts with a child. Yes, they're different. And they're both pedophilic in nature.
:::::::::::The article is much improved. I'm conerned about clarifying what POV is presenting this paragraph: ''''If adult characters are involved, then the actions of their players would normally be classified as pedophilic, even if those of thie child's player are not.'''' I think it would be well to explain which of the following you mean: "Most babyfurs would regard inclusion of adult characters in sexual play with children as pedophilic..." or "Onlookers/the uninitiated/general english speakers would not classify adults interested in sexual play involving child characters as pediophilic... unless they were themselves playing adults." (I'm unsure of the former; I have objections to the latter.)
:::::::::::Thanks for your attention to the article. Believe it or not, I'm as much interested in getting rid of unreasoning prejudice as anybody (because I believe in reason). And moreover, getting this kind of thing just right is, to me at least, worth being as awfully tedious to you as I've been. --[[User:Furthling|Furthling]] 07:00, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

== Definition of Sissyfurs ==
This was inaccurate. I have adjusted it by leaning the original definition in as a common misconception and explaining the truth afterward. ~Amethe - #sissyfurs founder/administrator

== Notable Babyfurs Section: List Cleanup? ==

The list of "notable babyfurs" currently features Snuggems among the list of babyfurs who are "among the most known and respected in the furry fandom, recognized here for their contributions and devotion to the babyfur community". With all due respect to his past contributions to the community, Snuggems pretty much hasn't done anything except RP on mucks in years, and it's unlikely that that will change. The others on the list have continued to do the things that put them on the list to this day, for the most part, while Snuggems has practically become a recluse, not attending or running any events in several years at least; the last Nursery that Snuggems and Wolfcub ran was at FC '07.

Given this information, does anyone have any objection to removing him from the Notable Babyfurs list? He's still mentioned in the timeline, but I really don't think his presence on this list is appropriate anymore.

-- ''[[User:Softpaw|Natasha Softpaw]]'' ( [[User_talk:Softpaw|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Softpaw|contribs]] ) 20:39, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

:Proceeding with proposed removal of Snuggems from the "Notable Babyfurs" list, due to lack of opposition. -- ''[[User:Softpaw|Natasha Softpaw]]'' ( [[User_talk:Softpaw|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Softpaw|contribs]] ) 12:20, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

== Notable Babyfurs Section: Ludwig? ==

Recently, an anonymous user added [[Ludwig]], creator of the #babyfur IRC channel (not to be confused with #babyfurs), to the list of "notable babyfurs". I have some serious objections to this, for a number of reasons. First off, that section describes "notable babyfurs" as being "among the most known and respected in the furry fandom, recognized here for their contributions and devotion to the babyfur community". I fail to see any way in which someone who's described (even by a fan or himself who put them on the list) as being "often connected with anti-babyfur sentiment" and "a known troll" fits that description, regardless of what they may have done in the past. Secondly, his cited accomplishments consist of being "often credited with the concept of 'Ironic Babyfurs'", something completely unreferenced anywhere on Wikifur, and creating the #babyfur IRC channel, a known haven for trolls and troublemakers. While the latter is enough to warrant mentioning in the community timeline, that alone hardly qualifies as "notable" compared to others on the list, especially when Ludwig is admittedly "not as prominant now as he has been in the past", and everyone else on the list (with the possible exception of Lil Kitt and Orca) is as active in the community now as they were years ago, if not moreso.

If Ludwig is to stay on the list, the person wishing to add him needs to explain how a known anti-babyfur can be well-respected in both the babyfur community and the furry fandom at large, and provide more information regarding his contributions to the community beyond creating an IRC channel that is controversial at best, and largely considered to be only tangentally related to the babyfur community. -- ''[[User:Softpaw|Natasha Softpaw]]'' ( [[User_talk:Softpaw|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Softpaw|contribs]] ) 03:39, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

:I don't think focussing on individuals is the best way to go, anyway. I suggest turning the history section into prose, and incorporating the facts embodied of the list of notable babyfurs within it. "X maintains Y"-type information should be on the pages X and Y, not here. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 04:06, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

::I concur, the concept of a "notable babyfurs" section is a bit outdated, considering the way the community has evolved to become less centralized. But, given the scope and quality of the article as it stands, rewriting it as you suggest would be a major undertaking, especially since many of the people/things in these two sections of the article need their own articles (or need to have their current articles drastically revised). In the meantime, there's no reason not to maintain it as-is, and as it's currently written, Ludwig's addition to the Notable Babyfurs section is not appropriate. -- ''[[User:Softpaw|Natasha Softpaw]]'' ( [[User_talk:Softpaw|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Softpaw|contribs]] ) 04:45, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

:First of all, while I appreciate your seemingly well thought out argument, I think you still have some facts mistaken. Ludwig is and always was a strong leader for a large portion of the babyfur community. As I explained in the page talk, there was a period in which his channel was the largest single gathering place for babyfurs. It just so happens, however, that since these babyfurs were widely regarded as anti-babyfur trolls, you seem to not be crediting them as also being babyfurs. So a 'tangential' relationship is hardly true. Just look in the 'history' section and note how many people have mentioned his name. I assure you those people were not me, and it shows just how important he has been considered in the past. Even if his opinions and personality are considered contraversial, there's no doubt in my mind that he has been responsible for a large amount of what the community has become. As for being 'less prominent' now. That's not a question of years, that's a question of months. After being k-lined from FurNet and being forced to pick up and move to Anthrochat, a lot of his channel members reintegrated with #babyfurs. Yes, reintegrated, despite your personal opinion that the members of that channel were nothing but trolls.

:Appended: Added the requested reference to ironic babyfurs under the 'Babyfur Roles' section. -- Anonymous, 6:58, 1 September 2009 (EST)

::Very well, I admit I'm not very knowledgeable about the "ironic babyfur" sub-community. However, in order to fit the definition of "notable babyfur" within this article, you need to establish that Ludwig is well-respected among the entire babyfur community (not just a subset of it) as well as the furry fandom as a whole. -- ''[[User:Softpaw|Natasha Softpaw]]'' ( [[User_talk:Softpaw|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Softpaw|contribs]] ) 03:34, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

:::I could simply argue this point by using the converse method. Ask yourself if the babyfurs already listed there are 'well respected among the entire babyfur community'. I can tell you that among the ironic subset of the community, inline with their mentality, none of the above are well-respected at all. Understand that the 'community' of which you speak is ALSO only a subset of the community, because you would never be welcome to or privy to the goings-on of the other major subset. -- Anonymous, 10:28, 2 September 2009 (EST)

::::You could argue that, but there's a flaw in your logic. The ironic babyfur sub-community is exactly that, a sub-group of the larger babyfur community, similar to diaperfurs. It began as an off-shoot of babyfurs as a whole, not as an independant group. So, saying that those on the current list of notable babyfurs aren't well-respected babyfurs because the ironic babyfur community doesn't respect them is flawed reasoning. It's like saying Uncle Kage isn't a "notable furry" because he's not well-received by babyfurs (note: this is just a hypothetical scenario). Back to the original point, saying that Ludwig is a notable babyfur based on being respected by a single subgroup of the community is flawed reasoning. Now, if you're saying that the ironic babyfur community is its own entity, and is not a sub-group of the babyfur community as a whole, you may have a point there. However, if that's the case, Ludwig still wouldn't be a "notable babyfur" by definition, because he wouldn't really be a babyfur. -- ''[[User:Softpaw|Natasha Softpaw]]'' ( [[User_talk:Softpaw|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Softpaw|contribs]] ) 15:34, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

:::::Using your very same logic you are also implying that Babyfurs are not actually furries and therefore should not be included on a site such as wikifur, so I believe it is you who must learn how a venn diagram works...the Babyfur Community is a subset of the Furry Fandom. Ironic babyfurs are a subset of the Babyfur Community. Just as every single person mentioned in your list belongs to some subset of the Babyfur community. Please be aware that I'm not arguing that most babyfurs wouldn't consider Ironics to actually be Babyfurs, but that's more of the political dynamic of the situation than anything else. As a perfect example, Sissyfurs are a small subset of babyfurs, as are ageplayers, however, nothing really says that a person considered responsible for the creation and propegation of that subset is not important to the structure of the community as a whole. In fact, it's worth noting that the amount of dissention brought on by Ironics has been incredibly important in the shaping of the community long before Ludwig took the initiative to bring them together. Some names were prominant in the ideal long before the community was solidified, such as Ozzyfox, Noname and Cubstatik, Gore, etc. But overall, it was Ludwig who finally took to giving shape to the ideal. Also be aware that such things as Behavioral norms at conventions and such would've never taken place if it wasn't for the fact that people involved in the Ironic community were heavily involved in the hazing of the individuals who made the babyfur community look bad. The community formed as a direct result of such actions and a need for babyfurs with some sense of common decency to rally against the overwhelming feeling in the babyfur community that anything was acceptable. And since this comment's getting too long, I'll end it there. -- Anonymous, 12:03, 2 September 2009 (EST)

::::::An extremely small group of people inside of a single IRC with absolutely no tracable presence outside of it does not qualify to be its own subset. This claim of importance is completely of opinion and if such were true there would be evidence of this group outside of this wiki page on google. There is no public evidence of those named outside of Ludwig identifying themselves as "Ironic Babyfurs" over just babyfurs. Where groups like sissyfurs has a large member base who spefically identify as sissyfurs and have a presence through out the babyfur subcommunity. Due to lacking any wide presence in the community "Ironic Babyfurs" should not be considered a subset. ~~ Anonymous, 00:17 18 February 2010

::Also worth mentioning, there are only two mentions of Ludwig in this entire article, both of which pertain to the #babyfur IRC channel (one when he created it, and one when he was banned from Furnet). Is that what you're referring to? -- ''[[User:Softpaw|Natasha Softpaw]]'' ( [[User_talk:Softpaw|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Softpaw|contribs]] ) 03:39, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

:::That would be correct, sir. -- Anonymous, 10:28, 2 September 2009 (EST)

::::I believe you meant "ma'am". -- ''[[User:Softpaw|Natasha Softpaw]]'' ( [[User_talk:Softpaw|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Softpaw|contribs]] ) 15:34, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

::Hey there guys. I believe Ludwig counts as a notable babyfur even if the ironic babyfur community has decayed somewhat in the last few months. For many years the ironic babyfur community was another choice for babyfurs who did not fit into the regular community. You'd likely not have heard about it because it went to great lengths to distance itself from the regular community. There were, in fact, a great multitude of ironic babyfurs and Ludwig should be credited with the idea of starting a historical subculture within the babyfur subculture. -- ''[[Duckbutt]]

:::Yes, we've established that he helped start the ironic babyfur community, and that would be good information to add to [[Ludwig|his page]], which is severely lacking in content. The point is that that alone doesn't make him "notable" for the purposes of this article/discussion. -- ''[[User:Softpaw|Natasha Softpaw]]'' ( [[User_talk:Softpaw|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Softpaw|contribs]] ) 12:47, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

::It is also important to note that Ludwig is an actual dolphin. The government hooked his brain up to a computer and now he's running a muck on the internets. I believe that his plan is to tear down the furry community by slowly eroding the sub cultures. He started with Babyfurs but now he has moved on to working the Zoophile sub-culture. He can learn swiftly with his new cybernetic mind and will soon accomplish his goals of collapsing the fandom in on itself. WE MUST STOP HIM AT ALL COSTS! Join the resistance today!
-[[StopCylonDolphins]]

::Seems like a "Notorious babyfurs" section would be a good place to put such names. After all, the negative influencers can be just as important in a community as the positive. -- [[Special:Contributions/217.155.69.206|217.155.69.206]] 17:21, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

:::How do you define positive and negative though? I mean many babyfurs see me as "negative" in that I'm an active contributor to ED as well as an infamous reality manipulation artist (troll) and an invective word artist (flamer), not to mention I once incited an nth level war in the general AB community when I pitted ABs against TBs in a large scale multi-group flame war on Usenet that ripped every one of the major Usenet groups apart. While many see such actions as "bad" or "negative", most of them are actually fueled by a sense of righteousness and what *I* believe is *GOOD* for the community in general...mostly in that I believe those who take themselves too seriously are the ones who *REALLY* damage the community and it's the ones who *DON'T* take themselves too seriously that are most beneficial. My work in general may be considered *VERY* "negative" in nature, like nyah:
:::http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Deviant_Art/Diaper_Art_Stamp_-_01.png
:::http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Deviant_Art/Diaper_Art_Stamp_-_02.png
:::But the end result is often *VERY* "positive", in that particular instance the original author took down the stamp and apologized, after it had been up for months and months, with continual attempts by DOZENS of others to get him to take it down using other "nicer" methods. [[User:Onideus Mad Hatter|Onideus Mad Hatter]] 08:42, 29 August 2011 (EDT)

== Yeah ==

So, I re-added myself to the list of notable babyfur artists, and here's why:
*Most of my artwork (especially what I've been publishing lately) depicts one or more babyfur
*In my town, if I'm not known as the girl with the dog collar, I'm known as the girl that draws baby animals
*I sold several babyfur pieces at my town's Art Fair a few years ago
*I run the #Babyfurs group on dA
There is more kinds of notability than just on-line. The Furry Fandom would do good to remember this. If you think I should be removed, tell me here instead of just taking it, because I will keep putting it back. I don't care. kthxbai [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 14:42, 17 May 2011 (EDT)
:I'm sorry, but as far as I can see none of these meet the barrier for "notability". In my company I am known as a furry, but that does not make me a notable furry. I would have to stand out ''among other furries''. By your estimation, almost any artist who ever sold anything that could be construed as a babyfur would be a notable babyfur artist - and there are hundreds of such artists. In contrast, Marci McAdam has been a regular dealer at conventions for years; I'd estimate she clears about $1000 of business at each of them. Her work is known both within and without the babyfur community - to the extent that people will assume that you ''are'' a babyfur if you wear a badge by her. (You also did not mention that you are the only person ''in'' that dA group, which you founded this week.) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 16:16, 17 May 2011 (EDT)

==To each their own==

So, I am reading this and I am somewhat astounded. This is Wikifur and you all are using it as though it were a chat room. The quote of the day is: "TO EACH THEIR OWN". As long as no one is hurting children or abusing a child in any form, it's not pedophilia. This is common sense, and the majority of our world has none. Let us erase all this chatty non-sense and retry this. Babyfur, Furry, Homosexuality, Bisexuality, Pansexuality, Transexuality, and so on and so forth are ALL a lot easier to explain than people give credit. I believe my first quote said it all. TO EACH THEIR OWN. Respect peoples limits, space, rights, and simply accept that no one wants to be you, and you shouldn't want to be anyone but yourself. If YOU believe you are a girl, so be it. If you think you are 5 years old, whatever. Don't hurt children, don't hurt others AT ALL and I won't care nor should anyone else. [[User:LinkDrako|LinkDrako]]([[User talk:LinkDrako|talk]]) 23:28, 30 May 2011 (EDT)
:Are you asking that people simply accept everything, and throw morals to the wind? [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 16:25, 1 June 2011 (EDT)
::Whose morals? :-) But this isn't really relevant to improving the article. [[Wikipedia:Pedophilia|Pedophilia]] is defined elsewhere as "a primary or exclusive sexual interest in prepubescent children ... at least five years younger in the case of adolescent pedophiles". I think this is a reasonable definition. It does not apply to all babyfurs and doesn't say anything about actions which harm others. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 03:08, 9 June 2011 (EDT)
:::Any morals. Everyone has their limits. Also GreenReaper, a tip: you of all people should stay away from pedophilia discussions; it'll only hurt you in the long run. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 01:02, 11 June 2011 (EDT)
::::Because I moderate [[Inkbunny]], cub haven of the world? (OK, so technically that's [[Cub Central]].) I have it on my LinkedIn profile. If people want to judge me for that, it's their call. I'd be a lot more worried about human porn, and I'm a lot more comfortable with Inkbunny's no-tolerance policy there than certain other furry archives. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 01:15, 11 June 2011 (EDT)
::::::And that right there is why I respect you. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 01:35, 11 June 2011 (EDT)

== Infected website ==

The following website [http://foxcrib.sk1p.com/] was identified as Trojan-infected by my anti-virus. It's worth double-checking, because it may be false-positive. [[User:EvilCat|EvilCat]] 07:19, 6 August 2011 (EDT)

:<del>It leads to an image of a crudely-written note that seems to be mocking people that threaten to kill themselves. Not sure if it's a virus, but it's definitely not a furry site. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]][[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 17:29, 6 August 2011 (EDT)</del>

::Actually, it is a letter rejoicing the return of the site, and clicking on the image leads to the site itself. The link seems to serve as an +18 warning. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]][[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 17:32, 6 August 2011 (EDT)
::: Well, my anti-virus still says "TROJAN:Illiframe-B". If there is an iframe, then the safety of the website it referenes can be checked with http://www.malwareurl.com . [[User:EvilCat|EvilCat]] 05:21, 7 August 2011 (EDT)
::::There is an iframe on that site, but the site it points to is down, at least when I checked. Note: I am not talking about the clickable link, but the invisible frame. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 14:30, 7 August 2011 (EDT)

== Removal of #bfd ==

I'm curious, why is #bfd being removed? The channel appears to exist and have people in it. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 22:49, 9 February 2012 (EST)

:It's politics, actually. The people who run babyfur.me are buttmad that members of #bfd troll their website, and as such are making an effort to pretend like they don't exist or are irrelevant. This happened a couple of years ago too, after a previous channel (actually a much larger one) had been responsible for a major troll attack on the babyfur community. Essentially babyfurs can't handle that members of their community identify or behave as trolls.

::It's not that babyfurs "can't handle" the fact that some who calls themselves babyfurs are trolls, but rather that such behavior is irrelevant to the definition of "babyfur", which is what this article is about. It's like saying that because some furries are trolls, they must receive mention in the [[Furry]] article on this site, which is ridiculous for the same reasons. As for this IRC channel specifically, I'm avoiding involvement because I know nothing about it, I merely reverted an anonymous edit to the last contribution by a registered user. However, I fail to see how babyfur trolls are relevant to the Babyfur article, any moreso than babyfur auto mechanics or babyfur Team Fortress players are specifically relevant. -- ''[[User:Softpaw|Natasha Softpaw]]'' ( [[User_talk:Softpaw|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Softpaw|contribs]] ) 05:10, 12 February 2012 (EST)

Lupinia Studios

2012-02-10T03:43:09Z

Softpaw: Just realized I haven't updated this in forever

Babyfur

2012-02-10T03:40:15Z

Softpaw: Reverted edits by 72.189.125.132 (talk) to last revision by Equivamp

A '''babyfur''' is a member of the [[furry fandom]] who enjoys roleplaying younger characters. They may also be an Adult Baby and/or [[Wikipedia:Diaper Lover|Diaper Lover]] (collectively known as AB/DLs), or is otherwise involved in [[Wikipedia:Infantilism|Infantilism]]. There are many different types of furs in the babyfur community, each focusing on different aspects and roles. Like [[furry]] in general, babyfur culture involves a good amount of [[role-playing]] (either light or heavy), both online and in the real world.

The community has been growing more and more popular since the mid- to late 90's. While the community itself is still part of the furry fandom as a whole, it is large enough to present sufficient leaders, politics and drama to give the community a nearly independent feel to it.

Role playing babyfurs will most often take on the role of a furry character in his/her infancy or childhood. Common roleplaying themes include "cute" [[clothing]] (onesies, footy pajamas, overalls, diapers) and a child's environment such as a nursery or day care center, complete with cribs, high chairs and babyish decor. A few babyfurs lucky enough to afford the privacy and devotion will set up adult nurseries to role play as children in real life. A sexual subset of this type of roleplaying is known as [[ageplay]].

[[Image:Rieva-little.JPG|thumb|350px|right|Babyfurs in a Nutshell.<br\>Art by [[LoupGarou]] [http://us-p.vclart.net/vcl/Artists/LoupGarou], character by [[Rieva]]]]

==Terminology==
===Babyfur roles===
There are a few sub-groups within the babyfur community which are often described with the following terminology :

*'''Babyfur''' : Used to describe the group as a whole, however, specifically it refers to someone who roleplays as younger characters—up to the human equivalent of toddler age. Baby paraphernalia is likely to be involved for this group and roleplay speech is often either in gibberish or very basic speech.
*'''Lilfur (littlefur, kidfur)''' : This is a person who roleplays as a child character. Characters identified as lilfurs tend to be between their toddler and teen ages. Diapers and other baby paraphernalia may or may not be involved. Role played speech is usually more refined at this point, but still somewhat juvenile.
*'''Diaperfur''' : This is a person who roleplays as an adult character who still either requires or chooses to wear diapers. Role played speech and actions are consistent with an adult. The person may also roleplay an adult character who has mentally regressed back to a younger state, but still has an adult physical form.
*'''Sissyfur''' : This is commonly misunderstood as a person who roleplays a [[male]] character, either adult or child, who is forced to dress and act as a young [[female]] character. Truthfully, a sissyfur is anyone, male or female, who enjoys regression, leaning toward a very feminized and docile or submissive look and attitude.
*'''Caretaker''' : As the name suggests these are the people who roleplay caretaker characters, a 'mommy' or 'daddy' figure for other babyfurs.

Many people don't identify with one single group, but can change roles depending on the situation and who they are interacting with. It's also not uncommon for complex lineages (for example siblings, parents, etc.) to be set up among other babyfurs so that roles can be defined.

==Definition of AB/DLs==
These are general non-furry terms but are useful to understand in this context.

*'''Adult Baby''' (AB) : A person that enjoys regressing back to being a baby. Beyond regressing using physical or environmental changes (such as diapers, clothing, and settings), they also mentally regress, taking the mentality of a baby. These are the equivalent to 'babyfurs' or 'lilfurs' when crossed with [[furry]]. Teenagers who are Adult Babies will sometimes refer to themselves as Teen Babies (TBs).

*'''Diaper Lover''' (DL) : A person feels a strong desire to wear or use diapers, usually without physiological necessity. These people, unlike AB's, will usually not regress physically (adopting a baby form) or mentally. These tend to be the equivalent of 'diaperfurs' in the babyfur community. For some DLs, but not all of them, there is a fetish connection to the diapers. They will sometimes take the submissive role to a caretaker in sexual play, and the caretaker will take a dominant role.

*'''Infantilist''' : Essentially, [[Wikipedia:infantilism|infantilism]] regards any person who enjoys regressing to the mental age of an infant or toddler, and may or may not involve diapers and other baby paraphernalia.

==Baby things (and why)==
From the Adult Baby (AB) angle of AB/DL, regressing individuals prefer to behave and be treated as much like a baby or toddler as possible. To do so successfully achieves in many babyfurs a comforting, secure or blissful feeling. Various paraphernalia help to satisfy these preferences:

===Clothing===
Many babyfurs enjoy wearing all sorts of clothing. Some say the cuter it looks, the better it is. Such articles of clothing include the following :
*[[Wikipedia:Overalls|Overalls]]
*[[Wikipedia:Shortalls|Shortalls]]
*[[Wikipedia:Booties|Booties]]
*[[Wikipedia:Dresses|Dresses]]
*[[Wikipedia:Onesie|Onesies]]
*[[Wikipedia:Pajamas|Pajamas]]
*[[Wikipedia:Pants|Pants]]
*[[Wikipedia:Footed sleeper|Footed sleepers]]
*[[Wikipedia:Mittens|Mittens]]
*[[Wikipedia:Bows|Bows]]

Many male babyfurs find they enjoy being dressed as little girls as well, and are sometimes called ''sissyfurs''. The classic baby bonnet (seen frequently in certain [[Looney Tunes]] cartoons) is not very common among babyfurs, which might be attributed to the fact that modern society doesn't find real babies wearing them either.

===Plushies and toys===
Just like clothing, interacting with [[plush toy|plushies]] and toys is very contributive to the cub experience. Toys range in age from baby toys to toy cars and action figures. As long as cubs get to interact with one another though, toys are not always the focus in a roleplay.

===Objects===
A toddler's life is not complete without items such as [[Wikipedia:Infant bed|cribs]], [[Wikipedia:Baby transport|walkers]], [[Wikipedia:Stroller|strollers]], [[Wikipedia:High chair|high chairs]], [[Wikipedia:Car seat|car seats]]/[[Wikipedia:Infant car seat|booster seats]], [[Wikipedia:Pacifier|pacifiers]], [[Wikipedia:Baby bottle|baby bottles]]/[[Wikipedia:Sippy cup|sippy cups]], [[Wikipedia:Baby powder|talcum powder]] and [[Wikipedia:Bubble bath|bubble baths]]. Many babyfurs use these objects in online roleplay and would love to be able to use them in the real world.

As well as physical objects, some babyfurs find a keen interest in actions like [[wikipedia:blowing a raspberry|blowing a raspberry]], being held, or watching old television shows that are no longer available on TV. Many old children's shows such as 80's and early 90's cartoons on [[Wikipedia:Nickelodeon|Nickelodeon]] were the same shows some babyfurs watched when they were little, and reminiscing about them leaves a nostalgic warmth.

===Diaper usage (and why)===
Diapers are an item frequently used while "cubbing out". Like other aspects of babyfur, this can be done in the virtual world, the real world, or both. There are many babyfurs, however, that while they will wear diapers in online roles, do not in real life. Many babyfurs will wear diapers in real life for a feeling of security and comfort, but will not use them for their intended purpose. At the other end of the spectrum, there are some babyfurs that, either by choice or by necessity, wear and use diapers all the time.

Why babyfurs wear, and possibly use, diapers in the real world is varied. For some, they are forced to wear them because of a medical condition and have no choice in the matter. These people have often blended their real life situation with that of their furry persona. For others, it is a way they can regress into their [[fursona|furry persona]]'s age. Some others see the diapers as a connection to their furry persona, paralleling a [[tail]] or [[fursuit]] in the general furry community.

The wearing (and especially the use) of diapers in the real world are at the heart of many issues that some members of the furry community in general have with the babyfurs. For example, it is not generally considered appropriate for a diaper user to soil themselves at a [[convention]] in the presence of other [[furry fan]]s - or to put themselves in a situation where this is likely to happen - yet individuals have been known to do this, to the detriment of the group's reputation.

==Babyfur behavior==
When cubbing out in both the real world and in online roleplaying, the level of connection to the role will vary between each player. Some babyfurs will become so involved and yearn for such an authentic childish mentality that they will use speech impediments and [[Wikipedia:baby talk|baby talk]] to communicate. Very few babyfurs make a habit out of using babytalk in the real world, similar to a [[Wikipedia:gay lisp|gay lisp]]. Depending on the situation, a babyfur could even develop a habit of whining or crying to get what he/she wants from a caregiver or another roleplayer.

In light online [[role-playing]], babyfurs may toddle, crawl and wag their tails playfully while the sounds of crinkling diapers abound. Pouncing, giggling, cuddling, [[snug]]gling and tummy rubbing ensue with the maximum possible level of cuteness.

Child-like behaviour, baby animal sounds and an emphasis on [[cuteness]] can be found among some [[furry fans]] when among themselves, even those who don't call themselves babyfurs and who don't participate in other babyfur activities described here, such as diapers or baby clothing.

While most babyfurs are closely attached to the development of young [[human]]s, a different approach can be found in online [[role-play]], where newborn [[zoomorphic]] and [[anthropomorphic]] [[characters]] often grow up at a similar pace as wild animals, doing without accessories such as diapers and learning to walk in a short time. This has the practical advantage of sooner getting into an age that allows interesting role-play even for non-babyfurs when playing a character since birth. As in nature, opinions on when a character can be considered adult vary greatly.

===Cubbing Out===
"Cubbing Out" is a general term used by the community to describe roleplaying as a babyfur character. This can either be roleplay in the virtual world or the real world. Usually it will involve one or more regressed characters or people interacting with each other or with a caregiver.

"Padding" and "Getting Padded" may also refer to cubbing, in particular regarding to being diapered.

===The caregiver's role===
Caregivers (or caretakers) are the 'mommy' and 'daddy' figures in the roleplay. For the most part, they interact with other babyfurs as a mother or father would with their child. This can include playing with, cleaning or disciplining the younger character.

===Babyfurs at furry conventions===
Just like furries in general, babyfurs go to [[convention]]s to spend time with friends and express their [[furriness]]. For many, that includes their babyfur aspects too. One may see many babyfurs dressed in juvenile clothing and with various paraphernalia because that is part of how they choose to express themselves. To some babyfurs, dressing in such a way is no different than other furries wearing ears, tails or fursuits.

At many [[convention]]s, hotel rooms are set up as gathering places for babyfurs to socialize privately, and many conventions now have unique babyfur rooms/parties available, instead of relying on the same people to run the same parties at every con. Two of the most notable are the [[C'ubhouse]], run by [[LilPup]], as well as the [[Cub Hub]], a new room run by any of its core members ([[FoxCub]], [[Natasha Softpaw]], and [[Scritchwuff]], currently) who show up for a particular con.

===[http://www.swiftsden.net/bfpbg_v1_2.pdf Babyfurs Public Behavior Guidelines v1.2a]===

==History of the babyfur community==
*'''1995''' - [[Proxima Centauri]] opens [[The Nursery]] on [[FurryMUCK]].
*'''1995-01-13''' - Proxima Centauri runs the first official "AB/DL Furry" convention gathering at [[ConFurence 6]], though unsuccessful.
*'''1995-08-04''' - [[BitterGrey]] opens [http://understanding.infantilism.org Understanding Infantilism], then known as "BitterGrey's Den," a website for ABDLs and Furries.
*'''1996-09-09''' - Proxima Centauri officially opens [http://www.nurserytails.ca Nursery Tails].
*'''1997''' - [[Snuggems]] opens the FurryMUCK DayKare and Bottoms-Up Diaper Company.
*'''1998-01-15''' - Snuggems runs ''The Nursery'', the first successful convention gathering for babyfurs, at [[ConFurence 9]]. The Nursery has been held at 18 furry conventions.
*'''1998-07''' - [[Chipper]] and [[OshKoshFox]] create [[babyfurs (IRC)|#babyfurs]] on [[YiffNet]].
*'''2000-05-20''' - [[Kasi Frost]] and OshKoshFox create the Babyfurs mailing list on One Groups.
*'''2000-05-18''' - [[Ray_Ferret]] creates #littlepaws on YiffNet after heated disagreements on #babyfurs.
*'''2000''' -[[OzzyFox]] creates #nowhere_grotto on YiffNet as an alternative to #babyfurs and #littlepaws. The new channel grows to rival the size of #babyfurs, but falls before #babyfur is created in 2004.
*'''2001-07''' - [[LilPup]] runs the first [[C'ubHouse]] at [[Anthrocon]].
*'''2002-11-02''' - [[TF Baxxter]] officially opens the [http://community.livejournal.com/babyfur/ Babyfur Community] on [[LiveJournal]].
*'''2004-07''' - [[Ludwig]] creates #babyfur as an alternative to #babyfurs, now on [[FurNet (IRC)|FurNet]], to allow users to chat with fewer rules and regulations.
*'''2004-09-13''' - The Babyfurs mailing list, having moved to Yahoo! Groups, is deleted by Yahoo! and is revived as "Babyfurs_part2."
*'''2004-12-11''' - Yahoo! again deletes the mailing list, and the group moves to [http://clubs.wanadoo.co.uk/group/group.cfm?GID=2982050 Babyfurs on Smartgroups].
*'''2006-11-30''' - SmartGroups ceases service. Babyfurs mailing list ceases to exist after over six years. The Babyfur LJ community eventually replaces mailing lists as a central babyfur community center.
*'''2009-02-14''' - #babyfur is removed from furnet for making fun of a recently dead furry.
*'''2009-02-24''' - [[Ludwig]] moves #babyfur to anthrochat after being banned from furnet along with the other owners of #babyfur
*'''2011-01-07''' - [[Ludwig]] closes #babyfur permanently.
*'''2011-04-18''' - [[LilFuzz]] opens [[BabyFur.ME]] as a social network dedicated to the babyfur community.

==Notable babyfurs==
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The following babyfurs are among the most known and respected in the furry fandom, recognized here for their contributions and devotion to the babyfur community:
*[[BabyTiger (person)|BabyTiger]] has been a member of the babyfur community since 1998, A Canadian Babyfur who has a strong presence at the Canadian conventions such at [[furnal Equniox]] and [[FurFright]], as well as organizing and hosting BabyFur gatherings. He also works and helps out with newer babyfurs in the community, making them feel welcomed and lending a hand to any who need the help. He also attends many furry gatherings in the USA, such as AC and FC. In the furry fandom he is also the technical director at [[Anthrofest]].

*[[FoxCub]] founded the Cub Hub mixer parties held at furry cons, which have been well-received by the babyfur community and the furry community alike. He's organized numerous local babyfur parties in the Pittsburgh area, and has been directly involved with most of the babyfur parties held at furry cons for the past decade. Recently, he began building high-quality cribs, high chairs, and other AB furniture, providing samples of his work at babyfur room parties at Anthrocon.

*[[Karis]] owns and maintains [[Karis' Playground]] [http://karisplayground.com/], featuring a large collection of babyfur and AB/DL comics by artists of all rank. Karis was the first person to make babyfur/diaper art available at furry conventions, thus pioneering the community known today as "Babyfurs."

*[[LilPup]] ran and managed the [http://babyfur.com/cubhouse/ Babyfur C'ubhouse] at furry conventions for babyfurs to get together and have fun, before the Cub Hub and other babyfur parties gained prominence. Like Swift and Orca, LilPup works to improve the relationship between babyfurs and non-babyfurs at conventions and to help babyfurs maintain a positive reputation in the furry fandom.

*[[Ludwig]], the owner of the controversial #babyfur and #bfd; often connected with anti-babyfur sentiment.{{fact}}

*[[Orca (person)|Orca]] is a former moderator for the Babyfurs mailing list. He maintains an external file archive for the mailing list. He routinely reports links to interesting or humorous online articles relating to AB/DLs. Orca is also the famed inventor of the [http://orcinus.dynip.com/AB_DL/Orca_Stack/index.html "Orca Stack."]

*[[Proxima Centauri]]'s name is perhaps the first name known to newcomers to the babyfur community as they search to satisfy their newly found interests. Proxima runs [http://www.nurserytails.ca Nursery Tails], one of the longest running AB Furry pages, dating back to 1997 (before the term "babyfur" had existed) and featuring thousands of babyfur art, fiction and multimedia files. Though it is in dire need of a new layout, the webpage still runs strong today.

*[[Swift Fox (person)|Swift Fox]] has been a member of the babyfur community since its inception in the mid to late 90's. He writes babyfur fiction, was owner and moderator of several iterations of the Babyfurs mailing list. ([http://www.swiftsden.net Swift's Den])

==Babyfur art and literature==
A few of the authors and artists in the babyfur community are:

===Artists===
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*[[Marci McAdam]] is probably the most popular [[artist]] in the babyfur community. Although not a babyfur herself, her ability and open-mindedness make her one of the most recognizable and well loved artists in babyfur circles. It is often said that a fur isn't officially a babyfur until they have purchased a badge or commission from her. Marci's babyfur art is for sale at her husband's website, Karis' Playground - other art is located at [http://furries.frithcat.com/ Marci McAdam's Furries]. Due to professional time constraints, Marci only takes a few fandom commissions at a time, mostly at [[convention]]s.
*[[BushyCat]] appears at several furry conventions and is well known for her humorous-yet-innocent take on babyfurs as well as other alternative genres of furry art. Some of her creations have more human-like qualities than other artists tend to portray in their characters.
*[[Jade Fox]] The majority of his work is based on his own or other babyfurs' characters. His drawings focus on the most treasured aspects of childhood and include innovative clothing design. [http://www.furryjadefox.com/ Furry Jade Fox]
*[[Kelvin the Lion]]'s works include the progressive webcomic ''[[Nivlek]]'', about the "weird" adventures of Nivlek the [[snow leopard]], who enjoys wearing diapers and eating. [http://www.geocities.com/kelvinthelion/index.html Kelvin's Furry Den]
*[[OzzyFox]], a student of animation at the Art Institute of Houston, produces work that ranges from cuddly-cute to controversial and mature. [http://foxcrib.sk1p.com/ Fox Crib]
*[[Cargo Weasel]]'s art leans strongly toward the "DL" side of "AB/DL," showing off mature diaper-related concepts that fit with his coloring and shading style. His art was featured on a now-defunct mailing list, but can still be found on his website: [http://www.cargoweasel.com/ Cargo Weasel: Art Complex]
*[[Familliar]] is a regular at [[Guppy]]'s [[Bluefurry Oekaki|Bluefurry]] [[oekaki]] board. Familliar regularly draws pictures of both his own character creations as well as that of his commissioners in his own charmingly creative and endearing way. His artwork can be found at: [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/familliar/ Familliar's FA website].
*[[Aramitz]]'s artwork focuses almost exclusively on the "DL" side of commissions for the babyfur community. His style features bold, thick inking lines set against cell-shaded coloring. Aramitz maintains galleries at all major furry art websites, [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/aramitz/ including FA].
*[[TaviMunk]] is a traditional and digital artist whose work is intended to reflect the joys and fun of childhood and babyhood, using bright colors and warm, innocent expressions and actions. Tavi keeps his art at a G-PG level, and takes [[commission]]s.
*[[Kalida]] produces a great deal of babyfur artwork, much of it commissioned.

===Art ''about'' babyfurs===
Some [[furry fandom]] artists have covered the topic of babyfurs, typically taking the same line as [[:Category:Media coverage|external commentators on the entire fandom]]:

*''[[West Corner Of the Park (comic)|West Corner Of the Park]]'''s coverage has been [http://www.graphxpress.com/cgi-bin/wcotp.cgi?date=20051002 generally] [http://www.graphxpress.com/cgi-bin/wcotp.cgi?date=20051016 negative], although they did make an exception for the [http://www.graphxpress.com/cgi-bin/wcotp.cgi?date=20060521 Pink Panzer]

===Writers===
*[[CS Fox]], also known as Kit Fox and Cyprus Sygial, is possibly the best known babyfur writer in the community. His works are the biggest features in the stories section at Nursery Tails, and since his submissions to Proxima's site he has gone on to host his own website showing off babyfur fiction of his own and by newer babyfur writers. The latest rendition of CS Fox's site, [http://www.foxtalestimes.com/ Fox Tales Times], is being completed as this article is written. Its biggest feature is CS Fox's renowned AB/DL RPGM2K-based game, Weston Academy. The website also sports plenty of comics and art related to the RPG.

*[[Firemane]]'s fiction is prominently featured on CS Fox's fiction page.

*[[Fieval Mouse]]'s work is still favored by many furs. His stories are roughly 5 years old and are found on Proxima's Nursery Tails, featuring illustrations by Doodles.

*[[Athalon]] is another notable furry writer who has written the lightly famous [[The Milkshake Club]].

==Babyfur as a paraphilia==

===Babyfurs and pedophilia===

Like other furry fans, babyfurs often exhibit sexual attraction to anthropomorphic animals by participating in [[TinySex]]. But because this usually involves adult players [[roleplaying]] sexual situations involving prepubescent characters, the question of whether babyfurs are [[Wikipedia:Pedophilia|pedophiles]] often arises.

Babyfurs generally assert that roleplaying as underage characters doesn't imply sexual attraction to such characters. For example, some roleplay as young furries due to a longing to be young again, and have no sexual element to their roleplay.

Of those that do participate in sexual activity, some are interested in (for example) the fantasy of submission to an adult figure. Those who have TinySex with other babyfurs sometimes argue that if there is no adult ''character'' involved, the activity is not pedophilia. Others may stress that since characters portrayed are not ''[[human]]'', it is not meaningfully pedophilia. Outsiders often disagree, since the activity still involves actual adults taking an interest in prepubertal persons depicted in sexual situations.

This debate applies equally to visual and written depictions of babyfurs in sexual relations, and disagreements are often intense, between those with concerns about pedophilia, those who feel babyfur is distinct from pedophilia (because of players' identification with characters or the species of those characters), and those who don't care who enjoys it just as long as they're not forced to see it.

===Babyfurs vs. non-babyfurs===
The concept of babyfurs is quite contentious with some members of the [[fandom]]. Some furries and non-furries who have identified themselves as babyfurs or were identified by others as being babyfurs may have acted inappropriately at [[convention]]s in the past. Such contentious behavior has allegedly included wearing diapers in public without using proper hygiene and trying to push uninterested people into babyfur roleplay, including sexual roleplay. These behaviors are frowned upon by the babyfur community in general, and such incidents, if perpetrated by babyfurs, are done by a small number of babyfurs within a larger babyfur community. The community in general adopted guidelines of conduct for how to act in public after a rash of such alleged incidents at conventions in an effort to police themselves.

Furries who dislike babyfurs may do so for a variety of common points, including:

*Grossed out by the concept of diaper lovers (or, in the aforementioned cases, by the smell)
*Concern that some babyfurs may be pedophiles
*Previous negative experiences with those who identify themselves as babyfurs or were identified by others as being babyfurs.
*Fear that babyfur behavior will be associated as a characteristic of the general fandom, especially in the media

While there is some conflict between babyfurs and the general fandom, such conflicts should not be overstated. The majority of babyfurs and non-babyfurs coexist quite well because the majority of babyfurs do not engage in the more extreme behaviors mentioned here.

==Babyfur online==
Babyfurs have a well established community full of art, resources, and as many modes of communication as the rest of the furry fandom.

==Websites==
====Informative pages====
Want to learn more about babyfurs, who they are, and why they are? These web pages may be helpful.

*[http://understanding.infantilism.org Understanding Infantilism] by [[BitterGrey]]
*[http://babyfur.com Online Babyfur Community] by [[LilPup]], [[Natasha Softpaw]], and [[FoxCub]]
*[http://orcinus.dynip.com/AB_DL/Orca_Stack/index.html How to make an "Orca Stack"], which are useful diapers for babyfurs.

[[Image:sr_secondlife.jpg|thumb|300px|right|Two babyfurs hug in the world of [[Second Life]].]]

====Art and fiction pages====
*[http://www.nurserytails.ca Nursery Tails] by [[Proxima Centauri]]
*[http://www.foxtalestimes.com Fox Tales Times] by [[CS Fox]]
*[http://foxcrib.sk1p.com/ Fox Crib] by [[OzzyFox]]
*[http://www.furryjadefox.com Furry Jade Fox] by [[JadeFox]]
*[http://www.karisplayground.com/ Karis' Playground] by [[Karis]]

====LiveJournal/Dreamwidth communities====
*[http://community.livejournal.com/babyfur/ Babyfur Community on LJ]
*[http://babyfur.dreamwidth.org/ Babyfur Community on Dreamwidth]

====Mailing lists====
* [http://www.altbabyfur.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/altbabyfur AltBabyfur]

====Internet Relay Chat / IRC====
*[irc://irc.anthrochat.org/babyfur.me Anthrochat #babyfur.me] (PG13 rating) - [http://babyfur.me website]
*[irc://irc.furnet.org/babyfurs Furnet #babyfurs] (PG13 rating)
*[irc://irc.furnet.org/diaperfurs Furnet #diaperfurs] (Unrated) ([[diaperfurs]] WikiFur page)

====Bulletin Boards and Forums====
*[http://foxtalestimes.actifforum.com/index.forum Fox Tales Forum] (G rating)
*[http://www.adisc.org/forum/babyfur-littlefur/ Babyfur/littlefur forum] at ADISC.org

====MUCKs====
[[The Astonishing Treehouse of the Secret Moon|The Treehouse]] on [[Tapestries]] is a common meeting place for lilfurs and ageplayers. Just teleport to ''secretmoon'' and you're there.

====Second Life====
Many babyfurs can be found in [[Second Life]]. A major meeting place for babyfurs is the babyfur [[island (Second Life)|sim]] called [[Cub Conclave]], created and run by [[Raven Welesa]].

====Social Networking Sites====
*[http://babyfur.me BabyFur.ME Social Network] by [[LilFuzz]]

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Natasha Softpaw

2011-06-28T19:11:58Z

Softpaw: Another year, another Anthrocon

[[Image:Natasha_Softpaw_Mini-Badge.jpg|thumb|210px|right|Natasha Softpaw's main con badge. Art by [[MehndiX]].]][[Image:Natasha_Softpaw_Marci_Badge.jpg|thumb|210px|right|Natasha Softpaw's babyfur fursona. Art by [[Marci McAdam]].]]
'''Natasha Softpaw''', also known as '''Natasha Lockhart''', and as '''Natasha Petrichor''' on [[Second Life]], is a [[grey wolf]] [[fur]], born in August 1985. She is a professional web designer, with hobbies including amateur radio, nature photography, travelling, hiking, and off-roading. She's also [[transgender|transgendered]], and while she used to use a male fursona/identity on furry sites, she's in the process of changing this to reflect changes in her real life.

== Character forms ==
=== Adult ===
Natasha Softpaw is a female grey wolf in her late teens (about 17, give or take a year). She’s a light-hearted, fun-loving fur who seldom takes life seriously, and she has a very playful personality. Her favourite activities include hiking, photography, swimming, and just relaxing among the trees near her home. She’s had a strong love of nature (particularly trees and flowers) ever since she was a pup, and happily describes herself as a “tree-hugger”. And, while she spends much of her time alone, she also enjoys social activities with her closest friends.

Her build is best described as average, but short. She’s roughly 5’4”, but this can vary due to her digitgrade legs (her family’s canine roots are unusually strong). Her headfur is dark brown, more than halfway down her back in length, and she typically lets it flow loosely, having never been a fan of the constricting sensation of hair elastics. But, she does loosely tie it back for swimming or hiking (if it’s a hot day). She seldom wears skirts or dresses, preferring short denim shorts and T-shirts (or tank-tops) instead. And, she usually wears a small, silver pentacle necklace (five-pointed star in a circle). She also loves wearing flowers in her hair, they make her feel like she’s bringing the forest home with her when she heads back after a day of hiking.

[http://www.softpaw.eu/misc/natasha-ref.php Description and reference images]

=== Babyfur ===
Natasha Softpaw is a female grey wolf puppy (about 2, give or take a year). She’s highly energetic, yet also quite affectionate, and she greatly prefers playing outside over staying inside. She has an affinity for exploration, but she’s rather timid, so she usually brings one of her plushies (her favourite is a river otter) along to “protect” her. Luckily, her parents have a large, forested backyard, so she can play in the woods without being in any real danger. She has a bit of an overactive imagination, and loves dreaming up wild fantasy scenarios, which keep her much too busy to be bothered with TV or video games. But, when bedtime comes, there are few things she enjoys more than a long bath (she loves water), and some snuggle time in the arms of her mommy.

She has pretty long headfur for her age, it’s nearly halfway down her back, and dark brown in colour. Her preferred style is to just let it flow loosely, but she spends a lot of time brushing it to keep it smooth and untangled. She doesn’t like wearing dresses, nor does she like wearing just a diaper, though she does like jumpers and shortalls. Her favourite colours are lavender and blue, and she hates yellow, with her wardrobe reflecting this. And, she loves bringing flowers back inside after a long day of playing, as well as tucking them in her hair (she thinks they look pretty, and they smell nice).

[http://www.softpaw.eu/misc/natasha-bf-ref.php Description and reference images]

== Fandom involvement ==
To date, Natasha has attended 13 major furry conventions, including [[Anthrocon]], [[Megaplex]], and [[Midwest FurFest]], as well as number of mini-cons like [[Western Pennsylvania Furry Weekend|WPAFW]] and [[New Year's Furry Ball|NYFB]]. She attends local meets in the Pittsburgh and Washington, DC metro areas on a regular basis, as well as other nearby locations. She enjoys lending her expertise in website/community administration to a number of furry forums and websites, and recently, she's been involved with running large babyfur parties/social events at major furry cons.

She discovered the fandom on Halloween in 2003, and has been an avid member of the furry community ever since. Natasha has no relation to ''[[Softpaw Magazine]]'', nor should she be confused with the artist [[Kiffin Softpaw]].

== Lupinia ==
Natasha's website, [[Lupinia]], hosts several other websites, both furry related and otherwise. Among these are:
* [[Furry Teens]] , a general furry site geared toward a teen audience.
* [[House Rules]], the fan-colored version of ''[[Ozy and Millie]]''.
* The [[MILFurs|Military Furs]] forum, run by [[Flinch Ferrex]]

== External links ==
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=== Main websites and biography ===
* [http://www.softpaw.eu/ Lupinia Studios] - Natasha's website
* [http://www.softpaw.eu/about/webmaster.php Lupinia - About Natasha] - Natasha's personal bio on [[Lupinia]]

=== Social networking ===
* [http://www.myfursona.com/user/softpaw Softpaw] - Natasha's [[MyFursona]] account
* [http://natashasoftpaw.livejournal.com/ Lupinia on LJ] - Natasha's [[LiveJournal]]
* [http://softpaw.dreamwidth.org/ Softpaw] - Natasha's Dreamwidth account
* [http://twitter.com/lupinia Lupinia on Twitter] - Natasha's Twitter feed

=== Image galleries ===
* [http://www.softpaw.eu/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=2447 Lupinia Studios Gallery] - Natasha's personal image gallery on [[Lupinia]]
* [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/softpaw/ Softpaw] - Natasha's [[FurAffinity]] account
* [http://lupiniastudios.deviantart.com/ Lupinia Studios] - Natasha's [[DeviantArt]] account
* [http://www.flickr.com/photos/lupiniastudios/ Natasha's Flickr Photostream]

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2011-06-28T19:09:31Z

Softpaw: Another year, another Anthrocon

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I'm Natasha Softpaw, and I like userboxes! Since putting a bio here would be fairly redundant, I'll point you to the article on [[Natasha Softpaw]] for more information.

Also, while I enjoy making new pages here on Wikifur, I kinda suck at getting all the formatting and such figured out, so I'm always thankful for those who come behind me and fix my contributions!

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Babyfur

2011-06-05T10:06:06Z

Softpaw: /* Artists */ A mention on Urban Dictionary isn't really fit for this section, and Hexaod probably has a few years before being undisputably suited for this list.

A '''babyfur''' is a member of the [[furry fandom]] who enjoys roleplaying younger characters. They may also be an Adult Baby and/or [[Wikipedia:Diaper Lover|Diaper Lover]] (collectively known as AB/DLs), or is otherwise involved in [[Wikipedia:Infantilism|Infantilism]]. There are many different types of furs in the babyfur community, each focusing on different aspects and roles. Like [[furry]] in general, babyfur culture involves a good amount of [[role-playing]] (either light or heavy), both online and in the real world.

The community has been growing more and more popular since the mid- to late 90's. While the community itself is still part of the furry fandom as a whole, it is large enough to present sufficient leaders, politics and drama to give the community a nearly independent feel to it.

Role playing babyfurs will most often take on the role of a furry character in his/her infancy or childhood. Common roleplaying themes include "cute" [[clothing]] (onesies, footy pajamas, overalls, diapers) and a child's environment such as a nursery or day care center, complete with cribs, high chairs and babyish decor. A few babyfurs lucky enough to afford the privacy and devotion will set up adult nurseries to role play as children in real life. A sexual subset of this type of roleplaying is known as [[ageplay]].

[[Image:Rieva-little.JPG|thumb|350px|right|Babyfurs in a Nutshell.<br\>Art by [[LoupGarou]] [http://us-p.vclart.net/vcl/Artists/LoupGarou], character by [[Rieva]]]]

==Terminology==
===Babyfur roles===
There are a few sub-groups within the babyfur community which are often described with the following terminology :

*'''Babyfur''' : Used to describe the group as a whole, however, specifically it refers to someone who roleplays as younger characters—up to the human equivalent of toddler age. Baby paraphernalia is likely to be involved for this group and roleplay speech is often either in gibberish or very basic speech.
*'''Lilfur (littlefur, kidfur)''' : This is a person who roleplays as a child character. Characters identified as lilfurs tend to be between their toddler and teen ages. Diapers and other baby paraphernalia may or may not be involved. Role played speech is usually more refined at this point, but still somewhat juvenile.
*'''Diaperfur''' : This is a person who roleplays as an adult character who still either requires or chooses to wear diapers. Role played speech and actions are consistent with an adult. The person may also roleplay an adult character who has mentally regressed back to a younger state, but still has an adult physical form.
*'''Sissyfur''' : This is commonly misunderstood as a person who roleplays a [[male]] character, either adult or child, who is forced to dress and act as a young [[female]] character. Truthfully, a sissyfur is anyone, male or female, who enjoys regression, leaning toward a very feminized and docile or submissive look and attitude.
*'''Caretaker''' : As the name suggests these are the people who roleplay caretaker characters, a 'mommy' or 'daddy' figure for other babyfurs.

Many people don't identify with one single group, but can change roles depending on the situation and who they are interacting with. It's also not uncommon for complex lineages (for example siblings, parents, etc.) to be set up among other babyfurs so that roles can be defined.

==Definition of AB/DLs==
These are general non-furry terms but are useful to understand in this context.

*'''Adult Baby''' (AB) : A person that enjoys regressing back to being a baby. Beyond regressing using physical or environmental changes (such as diapers, clothing, and settings), they also mentally regress, taking the mentality of a baby. These are the equivalent to 'babyfurs' or 'lilfurs' when crossed with [[furry]]. Teenagers who are Adult Babies will sometimes refer to themselves as Teen Babies (TBs).

*'''Diaper Lover''' (DL) : A person feels a strong desire to wear or use diapers, usually without physiological necessity. These people, unlike AB's, will usually not regress physically (adopting a baby form) or mentally. These tend to be the equivalent of 'diaperfurs' in the babyfur community. For some DLs, but not all of them, there is a fetish connection to the diapers. They will sometimes take the submissive role to a caretaker in sexual play, and the caretaker will take a dominant role.

*'''Infantilist''' : Essentially, [[Wikipedia:infantilism|infantilism]] regards any person who enjoys regressing to the mental age of an infant or toddler, and may or may not involve diapers and other baby paraphernalia.

==Baby things (and why)==
From the Adult Baby (AB) angle of AB/DL, regressing individuals prefer to behave and be treated as much like a baby or toddler as possible. To do so successfully achieves in many babyfurs a comforting, secure or blissful feeling. Various paraphernalia help to satisfy these preferences:

===Clothing===
Many babyfurs enjoy wearing all sorts of clothing. Some say the cuter it looks, the better it is. Such articles of clothing include the following :
*[[Wikipedia:Overalls|Overalls]]
*[[Wikipedia:Shortalls|Shortalls]]
*[[Wikipedia:Booties|Booties]]
*[[Wikipedia:Dresses|Dresses]]
*[[Wikipedia:Onesie|Onesies]]
*[[Wikipedia:Pajamas|Pajamas]]
*[[Wikipedia:Pants|Pants]]
*[[Wikipedia:Footed sleeper|Footed sleepers]]
*[[Wikipedia:Mittens|Mittens]]
*[[Wikipedia:Bows|Bows]]

Many male babyfurs find they enjoy being dressed as little girls as well, and are sometimes called ''sissyfurs''. The classic baby bonnet (seen frequently in certain [[Looney Toons]] episodes) is not very common among babyfurs, which might be attributed to the fact that modern society doesn't find real babies wearing them either.

===Plushies and toys===
Just like clothing, interacting with [[plush toy|plushies]] and toys is very contributive to the cub experience. Toys range in age from baby toys to toy cars and action figures. As long as cubs get to interact with one another though, toys are not always the focus in a roleplay.

===Objects===
A toddler's life is not complete without items such as [[Wikipedia:Infant bed|cribs]], [[Wikipedia:Baby transport|walkers]], [[Wikipedia:Stroller|strollers]], [[Wikipedia:High chair|high chairs]], [[Wikipedia:Car seat|car seats]]/[[Wikipedia:Infant car seat|booster seats]], [[Wikipedia:Pacifier|pacifiers]], [[Wikipedia:Baby bottle|baby bottles]]/[[Wikipedia:Sippy cup|sippy cups]], [[Wikipedia:Baby powder|talcum powder]] and [[Wikipedia:Bubble bath|bubble baths]]. Many babyfurs use these objects in online roleplay and would love to be able to use them in the real world.

As well as physical objects, some babyfurs find a keen interest in actions like [[wikipedia:blowing a raspberry|blowing a raspberry]], being held, or watching old television shows that are no longer available on TV. Many old children's shows such as 80's and early 90's cartoons on [[Wikipedia:Nickelodeon|Nickelodeon]] were the same shows some babyfurs watched when they were little, and reminiscing about them leaves a nostalgic warmth.

===Diaper usage (and why)===
Diapers are an item frequently used while "cubbing out". Like other aspects of babyfur, this can be done in the virtual world, the real world, or both. There are many babyfurs, however, that while they will wear diapers in online roles, do not in real life. Many babyfurs will wear diapers in real life for a feeling of security and comfort, but will not use them for their intended purpose. At the other end of the spectrum, there are some babyfurs that, either by choice or by necessity, wear and use diapers all the time.

Why babyfurs wear, and possibly use, diapers in the real world is varied. For some, they are forced to wear them because of a medical condition and have no choice in the matter. These people have often blended their real life situation with that of their furry persona. For others, it is a way they can regress into their [[fursona|furry persona]]'s age. Some others see the diapers as a connection to their furry persona, paralleling a [[tail]] or [[fursuit]] in the general furry community.

The wearing (and especially the use) of diapers in the real world are at the heart of many issues that some members of the furry community in general have with the babyfurs. For example, it is not generally considered appropriate for a diaper user to soil themselves at a [[convention]] in the presence of other [[furry fan]]s - or to put themselves in a situation where this is likely to happen - yet individuals have been known to do this, to the detriment of the group's reputation.

==Babyfur behavior==
When cubbing out in both the real world and in online roleplaying, the level of connection to the role will vary between each player. Some babyfurs will become so involved and yearn for such an authentic childish mentality that they will use speech impediments and [[Wikipedia:baby talk|baby talk]] to communicate. Very few babyfurs make a habit out of using babytalk in the real world, similar to a [[Wikipedia:gay lisp|gay lisp]]. Depending on the situation, a babyfur could even develop a habit of whining or crying to get what he/she wants from a caregiver or another roleplayer.

In light online [[role-playing]], babyfurs may toddle, crawl and wag their tails playfully while the sounds of crinkling diapers abound. Pouncing, giggling, cuddling, [[snug]]gling and tummy rubbing ensue with the maximum possible level of cuteness.

Child-like behaviour, baby animal sounds and an emphasis on [[cuteness]] can be found among some [[furry fans]] when among themselves, even those who don't call themselves babyfurs and who don't participate in other babyfur activities described here, such as diapers or baby clothing.

While most babyfurs are closely attached to the development of young [[human]]s, a different approach can be found in online [[role-play]], where newborn [[zoomorphic]] and [[anthropomorphic]] [[characters]] often grow up at a similar pace as wild animals, doing without accessories such as diapers and learning to walk in a short time. This has the practical advantage of sooner getting into an age that allows interesting role-play even for non-babyfurs when playing a character since birth. As in nature, opinions on when a character can be considered adult vary greatly.

===Cubbing Out===
"Cubbing Out" is a general term used by the community to describe roleplaying as a babyfur character. This can either be roleplay in the virtual world or the real world. Usually it will involve one or more regressed characters or people interacting with each other or with a caregiver.

"Padding" and "Getting Padded" may also refer to cubbing, in particular regarding to being diapered.

===The caregiver's role===
Caregivers (or caretakers) are the 'mommy' and 'daddy' figures in the roleplay. For the most part, they interact with other babyfurs as a mother or father would with their child. This can include playing with, cleaning or disciplining the younger character.

===Babyfurs at furry conventions===
Just like furries in general, babyfurs go to [[convention]]s to spend time with friends and express their [[furriness]]. For many, that includes their babyfur aspects too. One may see many babyfurs dressed in juvenile clothing and with various paraphernalia because that is part of how they choose to express themselves. To some babyfurs, dressing in such a way is no different than other furries wearing ears, tails or fursuits.

At many [[convention]]s, hotel rooms are set up as gathering places for babyfurs to socialize privately, and many conventions now have unique babyfur rooms/parties available, instead of relying on the same people to run the same parties at every con. Two of the most notable are the [[C'ubhouse]], run by [[LilPup]], as well as the [[Cub Hub]], a new room run by any of its core members ([[FoxCub]], [[Natasha Softpaw]], and [[Scritchwuff]], currently) who show up for a particular con.

===[http://www.swiftsden.net/bfpbg_v1_2.pdf Babyfurs Public Behavior Guidelines v1.2a]===

==History of the babyfur community==
*'''1995''' - [[Proxima Centauri]] opens [[The Nursery]] on [[FurryMUCK]].
*'''1995-01-13''' - Proxima Centauri runs the first official "AB/DL Furry" convention gathering at [[ConFurence 6]], though unsuccessful.
*'''1995-08-04''' - [[BitterGrey]] opens [http://understanding.infantilism.org Understanding Infantilism], then known as "BitterGrey's Den," a website for ABDLs and Furries.
*'''1996-09-09''' - Proxima Centauri officially opens [http://www.nurserytails.ca Nursery Tails].
*'''1997''' - [[Snuggems]] opens the FurryMUCK DayKare and Bottoms-Up Diaper Company.
*'''1998-01-15''' - Snuggems runs ''The Nursery'', the first successful convention gathering for babyfurs, at [[ConFurence 9]]. The Nursery has been held at 18 furry conventions.
*'''1998-07''' - [[Chipper]] and [[OshKoshFox]] create [[babyfurs (IRC)|#babyfurs]] on [[YiffNet]].
*'''2000-05-20''' - [[Kasi Frost]] and OshKoshFox create the Babyfurs mailing list on One Groups.
*'''2000-05-18''' - [[Ray_Ferret]] creates #littlepaws on YiffNet after heated disagreements on #babyfurs.
*'''2000''' -[[OzzyFox]] creates #nowhere_grotto on YiffNet as an alternative to #babyfurs and #littlepaws. The new channel grows to rival the size of #babyfurs, but falls before #babyfur is created in 2004.
*'''2001-07''' - [[LilPup]] runs the first [[C'ubHouse]] at [[Anthrocon]].
*'''2002-11-02''' - [[TF Baxxter]] officially opens the [http://community.livejournal.com/babyfur/ Babyfur Community] on [[LiveJournal]].
*'''2004-07''' - [[Ludwig]] creates #babyfur as an alternative to #babyfurs, now on [[FurNet (IRC)|FurNet]], to allow users to chat with fewer rules and regulations.
*'''2004-09-13''' - The Babyfurs mailing list, having moved to Yahoo! Groups, is deleted by Yahoo! and is revived as "Babyfurs_part2."
*'''2004-12-11''' - Yahoo! again deletes the mailing list, and the group moves to [http://clubs.wanadoo.co.uk/group/group.cfm?GID=2982050 Babyfurs on Smartgroups].
*'''2006-11-30''' - SmartGroups ceases service. Babyfurs mailing list ceases to exist after over six years. The Babyfur LJ community eventually replaces mailing lists as a central babyfur community center.
*'''2009-02-14''' - #babyfur is removed from furnet for making fun of a recently dead furry.
*'''2009-02-24''' - [[Ludwig]] moves #babyfur to anthrochat after being banned from furnet along with the other owners of #babyfur
*'''2011-01-07''' - [[Ludwig]] closes #babyfur permanently.
*'''2011-04-18''' - [[LilFuzz]] opens [[BabyFur.ME]] as a social network dedicated to the babyfur community.

==Notable babyfurs==
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The following babyfurs are among the most known and respected in the furry fandom, recognized here for their contributions and devotion to the babyfur community:
*[[BabyTiger (person)|BabyTiger]] has been a member of the babyfur community since 1998, A Canadian Babyfur who has a strong presence at the Canadian conventions such at [[furnal Equniox]] and [[FurFright]], as well as organizing and hosting BabyFur gatherings. He also works and helps out with newer babyfurs in the community, making them feel welcomed and lending a hand to any who need the help. He also attends many furry gatherings in the USA, such as AC and FC. In the furry fandom he is also the technical director at [[Anthrofest]].

*[[FoxCub]] founded the Cub Hub mixer parties held at furry cons, which have been well-received by the babyfur community and the furry community alike. He's organized numerous local babyfur parties in the Pittsburgh area, and has been directly involved with most of the babyfur parties held at furry cons for the past decade. Recently, he began building high-quality cribs, high chairs, and other AB furniture, providing samples of his work at babyfur room parties at Anthrocon.

*[[Karis]] owns and maintains [[Karis' Playground]] [http://karisplayground.com/], featuring a large collection of babyfur and AB/DL comics by artists of all rank. Karis was the first person to make babyfur/diaper art available at furry conventions, thus pioneering the community known today as "Babyfurs."

*[[LilPup]] ran and managed the [http://babyfur.com/cubhouse/ Babyfur C'ubhouse] at furry conventions for babyfurs to get together and have fun, before the Cub Hub and other babyfur parties gained prominence. Like Swift and Orca, LilPup works to improve the relationship between babyfurs and non-babyfurs at conventions and to help babyfurs maintain a positive reputation in the furry fandom.

*[[Ludwig]], though not as prominant now as he has been in the past, is often credited with the concept of 'Ironic Babyfurs'. His channel, #babyfur, was once a major lifeline for the Ironic Babyfur community. He is often connected with anti-babyfur sentiment and is a known troll.

*[[Orca (person)|Orca]] is a former moderator for the Babyfurs mailing list. He maintains an external file archive for the mailing list. He routinely reports links to interesting or humorous online articles relating to AB/DLs. Orca is also the famed inventor of the [http://orcinus.dynip.com/AB_DL/Orca_Stack/index.html "Orca Stack."]

*[[Proxima Centauri]]'s name is perhaps the first name known to newcomers to the babyfur community as they search to satisfy their newly found interests. Proxima runs [http://www.nurserytails.ca Nursery Tails], one of the longest running AB Furry pages, dating back to 1997 (before the term "babyfur" had existed) and featuring thousands of babyfur art, fiction and multimedia files. Though it is in dire need of a new layout, the webpage still runs strong today.

*[[Swift Fox (person)|Swift Fox]] has been a member of the babyfur community since its inception in the mid to late 90's. He writes babyfur fiction, was owner and moderator of several iterations of the Babyfurs mailing list. ([http://www.swiftsden.net Swift's Den])

==Babyfur art and literature==
A few of the authors and artists in the babyfur community are:

===Artists===
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*[[Marci McAdam]] is probably the most popular [[artist]] in the babyfur community. Although not a babyfur herself, her ability and open-mindedness make her one of the most recognizable and well loved artists in babyfur circles. It is often said that a fur isn't officially a babyfur until they have purchased a badge or commission from her. Marci's babyfur art is for sale at her husband's website, Karis' Playground - other art is located at [http://furries.frithcat.com/ Marci McAdam's Furries]. Due to professional time constraints, Marci only takes a few fandom commissions at a time, mostly at [[convention]]s.
*[[BushyCat]] appears at several furry conventions and is well known for her humorous-yet-innocent take on babyfurs as well as other alternative genres of furry art. Some of her creations have more human-like qualities than other artists tend to portray in their characters.
*[[Jade Fox]] The majority of his work is based on his own or other babyfurs' characters. His drawings focus on the most treasured aspects of childhood and include innovative clothing design. [http://www.furryjadefox.com/ Furry Jade Fox]
*[[Kelvin the Lion]]'s works include the progressive webcomic ''[[Nivlek]]'', about the "weird" adventures of Nivlek the [[snow leopard]], who enjoys wearing diapers and eating. [http://www.geocities.com/kelvinthelion/index.html Kelvin's Furry Den]
*[[OzzyFox]], a student of animation at the Art Institute of Houston, produces work that ranges from cuddly-cute to controversial and mature. [http://foxcrib.sk1p.com/ Fox Crib]
*[[Cargo Weasel]]'s art leans strongly toward the "DL" side of "AB/DL," showing off mature diaper-related concepts that fit with his coloring and shading style. His art was featured on a now-defunct mailing list, but can still be found on his website: [http://www.cargoweasel.com/ Cargo Weasel: Art Complex]
*[[Familliar]] is a regular at [[Guppy]]'s [[Bluefurry Oekaki|Bluefurry]] [[oekaki]] board. Familliar regularly draws pictures of both his own character creations as well as that of his commissioners in his own charmingly creative and endearing way. His artwork can be found at: [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/familliar/ Familliar's FA website].
*[[Aramitz]]'s artwork focuses almost exclusively on the "DL" side of commissions for the babyfur community. His style features bold, thick inking lines set against cell-shaded coloring. Aramitz maintains galleries at all major furry art websites, [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/aramitz/ including FA].
*[[TaviMunk]] is a traditional and digital artist whose work is intended to reflect the joys and fun of childhood and babyhood, using bright colors and warm, innocent expressions and actions. Tavi keeps his art at a G-PG level, and takes [[commission]]s.
*[[Kalida]] produces a great deal of babyfur artwork, much of it commissioned.

===Art ''about'' babyfurs===
Some [[furry fandom]] artists have covered the topic of babyfurs, typically taking the same line as [[:Category:Media coverage|external commentators on the entire fandom]]:

*''[[West Corner Of the Park (comic)|West Corner Of the Park]]'''s coverage has been [http://www.graphxpress.com/cgi-bin/wcotp.cgi?date=20051002 generally] [http://www.graphxpress.com/cgi-bin/wcotp.cgi?date=20051016 negative], although they did make an exception for the [http://www.graphxpress.com/cgi-bin/wcotp.cgi?date=20060521 Pink Panzer]

===Writers===
*[[CS Fox]], also known as Kit Fox and Cyprus Sygial, is possibly the best known babyfur writer in the community. His works are the biggest features in the stories section at Nursery Tails, and since his submissions to Proxima's site he has gone on to host his own website showing off babyfur fiction of his own and by newer babyfur writers. The latest rendition of CS Fox's site, [http://www.foxtalestimes.com/ Fox Tales Times], is being completed as this article is written. Its biggest feature is CS Fox's renowned AB/DL RPGM2K-based game, Weston Academy. The website also sports plenty of comics and art related to the RPG.

*[[Firemane]]'s fiction is prominently featured on CS Fox's fiction page.

*[[Fieval Mouse]]'s work is still favored by many furs. His stories are roughly 5 years old and are found on Proxima's Nursery Tails, featuring illustrations by Doodles.

*[[Athalon]] is another notable furry writer who has written the lightly famous [[The Milkshake Club]].

==Babyfur as a paraphilia==

===Babyfurs and pedophilia===

Like other furry fans, babyfurs often exhibit sexual attraction to anthropomorphic animals by participating in [[TinySex]]. But because this usually involves adult players [[roleplaying]] sexual situations involving prepubescent characters, the question of whether babyfurs are [[Wikipedia:Pedophilia|pedophiles]] often arises.

Babyfurs generally assert that roleplaying as underage characters doesn't imply sexual attraction to such characters. For example, some roleplay as young furries due to a longing to be young again, and have no sexual element to their roleplay.

Of those that do participate in sexual activity, some are interested in (for example) the fantasy of submission to an adult figure. Those who have TinySex with other babyfurs sometimes argue that if there is no adult '''character''' involved, the activity is not pedophilia. Others may stress that since characters portrayed are not '''human''', it is not meaningfully pedophilia. Outsiders often disagree, since the activity still involves actual adults taking an interest in prepubertal persons depicted in sexual situations.

This debate applies equally to visual and written depictions of babyfurs in sexual relations, and disagreements are often intense, between those with concerns about pedophilia, those who feel babyfur is distinct from pedophilia (because of players' identification with characters or the species of those characters), and those who don't care who enjoys it just as long as they're not forced to see it.

===Babyfurs vs. non-babyfurs===
The concept of babyfurs is quite contentious with some members of the [[fandom]]. Some furries and non-furries who have identified themselves as babyfurs or were identified by others as being babyfurs may have acted inappropriately at [[convention]]s in the past. Such contentious behavior has allegedly included wearing diapers in public without using proper hygiene and trying to push uninterested people into babyfur roleplay, including sexual roleplay. These behaviors are frowned upon by the babyfur community in general, and such incidents, if perpetrated by babyfurs, are done by a small number of babyfurs within a larger babyfur community. The community in general adopted guidelines of conduct for how to act in public after a rash of such alleged incidents at conventions in an effort to police themselves.

Furries who dislike babyfurs may do so for a variety of common points, including:

*Grossed out by the concept of diaper lovers (or, in the aforementioned cases, by the smell)
*Concern that some babyfurs may be pedophiles
*Previous negative experiences with those who identify themselves as babyfurs or were identified by others as being babyfurs.
*Fear that babyfur behavior will be associated as a characteristic of the general fandom, especially in the media

While there is some conflict between babyfurs and the general fandom, such conflicts should not be overstated. The majority of babyfurs and non-babyfurs coexist quite well because the majority of babyfurs do not engage in the more extreme behaviors mentioned here.

==Babyfur online==
Babyfurs have a well established community full of art, resources, and as many modes of communication as the rest of the furry fandom.

==Websites==
====Informative pages====
Want to learn more about babyfurs, who they are, and why they are? These web pages may be helpful.

*[http://understanding.infantilism.org Understanding Infantilism] by [[BitterGrey]]
*[http://babyfur.com Online Babyfur Community] by [[LilPup]], [[Natasha Softpaw]], and [[FoxCub]]
*[http://orcinus.dynip.com/AB_DL/Orca_Stack/index.html How to make an "Orca Stack"], which are useful diapers for babyfurs.

[[Image:sr_secondlife.jpg|thumb|300px|right|Two babyfurs hug in the world of [[Second Life]].]]

====Art and fiction pages====
*[http://www.nurserytails.ca Nursery Tails] by [[Proxima Centauri]]
*[http://www.foxtalestimes.com Fox Tales Times] by [[CS Fox]]
*[http://foxcrib.sk1p.com/ Fox Crib] by [[OzzyFox]]
*[http://www.furryjadefox.com Furry Jade Fox] by [[JadeFox]]
*[http://www.karisplayground.com/ Karis' Playground] by [[Karis]]

====LiveJournal/Dreamwidth communities====
*[http://community.livejournal.com/babyfur/ Babyfur Community on LJ]
*[http://babyfur.dreamwidth.org/ Babyfur Community on Dreamwidth]

====Mailing lists====
* [http://www.altbabyfur.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/altbabyfur AltBabyfur]

====Internet Relay Chat / IRC====
*[irc://irc.furnet.org/babyfurs Furnet #babyfurs] (PG13 rating) - [http://www.babyfurs.org.uk website]
*[irc://irc.furnet.org/diaperfurs Furnet #diaperfurs] (Unrated) ([[diaperfurs]] WikiFur page)

====Bulletin Boards and Forums====
*[http://foxtalestimes.actifforum.com/index.forum Fox Tales Forum] (G rating)
*[http://www.adisc.org/forum/babyfur-littlefur/ Babyfur/littlefur forum] at ADISC.org

====MUCKs====
[[The Astonishing Treehouse of the Secret Moon|The Treehouse]] on [[Tapestries]] is a common meeting place for lilfurs and ageplayers. Just teleport to ''secretmoon'' and you're there.

====Second Life====
Many babyfurs can be found in [[Second Life]]. A major meeting place for babyfurs is the babyfur [[island (Second Life)|sim]] called [[Cub Conclave]], created and run by [[Raven Welesa]].

====Social Networking Sites====
*[http://babyfur.me BabyFur.ME Social Network] by [[LilFuzz]]

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{{Featured article}}

Furry Teens

2011-05-16T09:23:56Z

Softpaw: Reverting, Schism hasn't officially resigned that I'm aware of.

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'''Furry Teens''', also known as '''Teen Furs''', is an online community of [[furry fan]]s and [[artist]]s between the ages 13-25. Created in 2003 by [[Kit Wolf]], and hosted by [[Lupinia]].

*'''Addresses''':
**'''Website''': http://www.furryteens.org/
**'''Forum''': http://www.furryteens.org/forum
**'''Frapper''': <nowiki>http://www.frappr.com/furryteens</nowiki> (Frappr defunct)
**'''IRC''': irc://irc.furnet.org/furryteens
*'''Administration Team''':
**'''Forum Admin''': [[Natasha Softpaw]], [[Hale Laocon]], [[Spazzeh]]
**'''IRC Admin''': [[Atte]]
**'''Radio Staff''': [[Schism]], [[Nox Darkdingo]]
*'''Ran from/to''': 2003 - present
*'''Motto''': "''Introducing young furs to the fandom, one paw at a time''"

== History and services ==

Initially a [[Yahoo!]] Group, the community moved to a website format in 2003. Apart from the website and forum, there is also an [[IRC]] chatroom, a [[Furcadia]] [[dream]] by [[Flinch Ferrex]], an unofficial LiveJournal community (moderated by [[Shipanda]]), and a there was a [[Wikipedia:Frappr!|Frappr!]] page.

== Community's goals ==

Furry Teens is designed to be a place where a lot of creativity can be expressed by artists, [[writer]]s, gamers, and other furry fans. Furry Teens also encourages open-mindedness and innovation, along with giving and receiving support on "growing up" topics, and helping new furs better understand the furry fandom. The group aims to provide a safe haven for young members of the fandom, primarily minors, who are often unwelcome at other furry sites because of their age, and continues to grow in members and features. Furry Teens eventually hopes to even hold meets for members to associate, and the site already has enough members to facilitate small gatherings at furry cons.

== See also ==

* [[TeenageFurs]], a spin-off group created by former Furry Teens members

== External links ==

*[http://www.furryteens.org/ Furry Teens], main website
*[http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Furry-Teens/ Furry-Teens], original [[Yahoo!|Yahoo! group]]
*[http://web.archive.org/web/20070111204228rn_1/groups.yahoo.com/group/teenfurs/ Archive copy of Teen Furs Yahoo! group] at [[Wikipedia:Internet Archive|Internet Archive]]

[[Category:Websites]]
[[Category:Forums]]
[[Category:Mailing lists]]
[[Category:2003 births]]

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== Allan is changing (with proof) ==

Jump to post #521 and read from there: http://wys.mirror.henriwatson.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=185

Also, Dragoneer made a journal about his progress: http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/1619739/

-Glaice

== Apologies ==

With college starting up within the next few weeks, i've been neglecting my duties to the DYK section. I've already missed an update and I apologize for that. Unfortunately, until i'm able to figure out how my computer situation will work out at college and what my schedule will be in general, i'm going to be kind of busy. So I might not be around for a month or two and won't be able to keep up with my duties. :( [[User:Silver seren|Silver]][[User talk:Silver seren|seren]][[Special:Contributions/Silver seren|C]] 00:58, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
:Hey, it's no problem. I've been incredibly busy at work this whole month myself. Whenever you can give your time, it is appreciated - but don't kill yourself over not being able to. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 01:01, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

== Please delete my article. ==

Hey there. I was wondering if you could delete the page http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Fidge for me. I've lost interest in keeping up with wikipedia and stuff and I would like my own page removed. Thanks alot. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Fidge|Fidge]] ([[User talk:Fidge|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Fidge|contribs]]) .
:It's not your page, it's our page about you - even if you started it. However, we do have an [[WikiFur:Personal exclusion|exclusion policy]], which I have applied to that page. Please contact myself or another administrator if you would like to revert this exclusion. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 18:12, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

== Vandalism targeted at Anthrochat-related articles ==

Seems that some members from Anthrochat have taken to vandalising particular articles. I've reverted [[Anthrochat]] and [[Furrycoffeeshop]] a few times already today. Is it possible to get those pages protected somehow? Thanks. :) [[User:CodeCat|CodeCat]] 19:39, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
:We do not normally protect pages unless vandalism becomes unmanageable, or a "time-out" is needed between editors. However, the two anonymous users concerned have been blocked for inserting inaccurate information before, and they have now been blocked for a longer period for the same reason. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 19:48, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
:: Allright, seems fair, thanks. I'm just not sure it will help much, because I know the people behind those IPs. They'll probably just come back in 2 weeks and do it again... :/ [[User:CodeCat|CodeCat]] 20:21, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

== Deleted Images ==

I can understand the copyright violation, but 'there is agreement that the work was used'? Unless I am understanding you wrong, there was no agreement - you stated that yourself. If I were to upload these again under a different usage, would they be removed again?

[[User:Rinduri|Rinduri]] 00:12, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

:Nobody disagrees that Tuqiri used Vailwolf's work in the art show - just whether or not it was "fair use" to do so. Therefore, there is little justification for using copyrighted works to show this, especially against the wishes of ''both'' copyright holders.
:As I understand it, you were already advised by Vailwolf that she did not wish you to redistribute her work. I think you should strongly reconsider your reasons and legal grounds for doing so regardless. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 00:42, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

== Change picture? ;-) ==

A pal of mine, Aatheus, showed me a picture of me and a fellow CATS cosplayer that is on the various Wikis in the Furry sections. Fantastic to be seen, but oh gosh, can we somehow find a more.. er... flattering image? I can't say that makeup was one of my best now is the wig any good. Can you please contact me so that I can provide a better picture that is by far more suitable? Please note me here on Wikifur or email me.

This is the one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:GR_FC2007_furry_cats_costumers.jpg

Best purrs,

[[User:Twospotz|Twospotz]] (Among CATS folks known as Ahdeya - that blackclad CATS cat lady....)

:''Replied via email.'' --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 03:33, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

== Blanking ==
Hi there! Please don't remove all content from pages, as you did with [[Inuki]]. Such changes will be reverted, especially when no reason is given. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 04:27, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

:That's what she gets for degrading me
:"Like most Thieves, she claims to ask before applying her edits, however this is in fact a lie. Even if it were true she posts her edited pictures in sites that do now allow such works and considers them traced or stolen, hence her label in the fandom as an Art Thief"

:She added that to my page without my permission -Twilightwolf4:

::I'm not sure you have the right person. Inuki is from Germany; the edits in question came from an IP address that traces to New York. Regardless, such edits just waste ''our'' time, not the subject's. Please refrain from them in the future. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 04:35, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Is there a way to prevent editing of a userpage?

:[[WikiFur:Administrators|Administrators]] can do lots of things - though page protection is usually a last resort. If there's clearly an ongoing problem, other will step in. Note that you have the ability to watch pages, and to be emailed when an edit is made to them.
:Bear in mind that like most public wikis, WikiFur is open to all editors. While user pages will generally be left to the user concerned, if the information on them appears particularly one-sided, others may be inclined to edit them. Content that appears to be a description of a subject may also be moved to the main namespace and edited further, as user pages are not intended to replace or duplicate articles (compare [[GreenReaper]] and [[User:GreenReaper]]). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 05:00, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Either way, I'd rather not have my page altered
Especially not with lies made by anti-furs

:Well, and here's where it gets tricky - when it comes to a wiki, it's ''not'' "your page". It's "our page about you". The User: page is intended to provide information relating to your contributions to WikiFur - not as a venue for presenting your own opinion of yourself without fear of rebuttal; nor for criticizing others, especially when it comes to off-wiki matters. That stuff belongs on your homepage, and [[WikiFur:What WikiFur is not#WikiFur is not a free host or webspace provider|we're not a hosting site]]. If you want a page which only you can edit, you should probably look elsewhere. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 05:27, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Is deleting possible?
Although 'they' would make a new page about me anyway, ah well, life goes on, popularity has ups and downs, plus, not a lot of people know about my page...

there's no need to reply back to this

== Wiki tagline ==

Just a quick note, because I've noticed it before but not gotten around to asking you about it... Is it possible to get the tagline to WikiLurv changed on the int'l portal for grammar reasons? "Den lurviga encyklopedin", would probably be the best translation of WikiFur's "the furry encyclopedia". Either that or "Den svenska furryencyklopedin" ("The swedish furry encyclopedia" - the former implies that the wiki itself is covered in fur, the latter that it's a furry-related encyclopedia; I'm not sure which WikiFur's tagline is supposed to imply); I'm not married to either translation, just want the grammar straightened out. At your convenience, of course. --[[User:Quotingmungo|quoting_mungo]] 13:50, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
:Sure. I've tweaked this now; you may have to force a refresh to see it. I guess the meaning I intended is really more the latter, but I used the former because it's shorter and doesn't specify the language, which would obliviate the point of a universal tagline (assuming that "Den furryencyklopedin" is also grammatically incorrect). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 13:59, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
::Cheers! --[[User:Quotingmungo|quoting_mungo]] 15:29, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

== WikiFur Noticeboard ==

Hi. I just wanted to make sure you were aware that [[WikiFur:Noticeboard]] was recently opened. Your input on any open topics would be appreciated, and please feel free to open new topics as you see fit. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 04:34, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

== Thank you ==

I'm glad i was able to help confirming the truth of the article on The Deadly Wolves. Though now that the edi war been taken care of. I'm going to need a bit of help with the article of his. Since i do have concern that this will most become an edit war whenever the confirmination of the truth comes out. (Hoping it doesn't get to that point.) --[[User:Tridragon|Tridragon]] 20:19, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
:Just let us know what you have to work with on the article's attached discussion page, and we can all pitch in. It's hardly the first time we've had to document contentious subjects. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 20:21, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
::Well anyway i've finished with citing all of my refs about the subject. I've mentioned this on the subject talk page. [http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Talk:Conner_Lupindo_Hemming Subject talk page] Basically it's all in a notepad. Though is it alright to post all of what i found so it be easier to find what can be used for this article. --[[User:Tridragon|Tridragon]] 21:48, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
:::Sure, I think that'd be OK - other editors can make use of it in the future. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 21:51, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
::::Alright but where since there's a lot of stuff. Should i post it all on my talk page then?--[[User:Tridragon|Tridragon]] 22:26, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::You should post it on the talk pages for the relevant articles, because that's where other editors will look. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 23:52, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
Alright then and i'm done with the first part. [http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Talk:Conner_Lupindo_Hemming#References_of_Ban_Evasions References of ban evasions] I will be posting the other part in the Deadly Wolves Article Section since the next part is mostly related to that. --[[User:Tridragon|Tridragon]] 04:03, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

== Username change? ==

I don't have an LJ, so I figured this would be the place to ask for it. If it's not an inconvenience, going from "Twilight-wolf" to just "Twilight" would help lots. I've checked around the site, there doesn't seem to be a user with that name, if it's available, I'll take it. If not, I'll come up with something else.

Thanks! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Twilight-wolf|Twilight-wolf]] ([[User talk:Twilight-wolf|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Twilight-wolf|contribs]]) .

:Unfortunately the name Twilight was registered earlier this year. I would be glad to rename your account to something else, though. You already have both Twilight-Wolf and Twilight-wolf (different capitalizations) - it would be good if you logged into the former so that I can merge them before renaming. (The account was created on Wikia.com; if you have forgotten the password, you'll need to go there to reset it first.) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 03:34, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

== Furry Fashion ==

Wondering if This is appropriate for this site
I run furry fashion the largest furry clothing and accessory store in second life, we are a furry community 3 sims wide, with over 4500 members, 70 furs employed, 4000 items for sale, a welcome centre to help new furs get started and explain what furs are, homes, a mall, events and other other furry things. I have been asked before if we have a page here but I wasn't sure if we was allowed to have one. I have noticed AX , another SL furry company does but wanted to be sure first before making one.
Thank you for taking the time to read this.
[[User:Amethysia|Amethysia]] (Amethyst Crystal in second life)
:Hi Amethysia! You're welcome to start an article about your group (presumably at [[Furry Fashion]]). However, we do require that all articles be [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Neutral point of view#Explanation of the neutral point of view|neutral]] - so try to stick to the facts. Basically, if it doesn't ''sound'' like it was written by you, that's probably a good start. If what you say is true, the facts should be impressive by themselves. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 11:03, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Could I be unblocked from your AIM list? When I talked to you at FC2011 you made it sound like you would once you were back home but so far I've not seen it, and even Ayukawataur hasn't relayed any messages saying if you would or not.

--Mozdoc

== Just wanted another's opinion. ==

Hi, I am very new to this (is it a wiki?) wiki, and I was wondering if you could check out my user page and tell me if I fit into the Fandom. I am still learning new things every day, and I am young, but I believe I am a Furry. Since nobody's shoved a pen and paper in my hand and said "You're a Furry, please add your name to the list", I was wanting an opinion from someone more knowledgable on the subject than I, and I thought asking you would be a good idea. Plus, I noticed on your page that you developed an interest in this whole system too at a young age. If you will, please leave a reply on my talk page. I am user:Perservere. Thank you.
:Furries are fans of anthropomorphic animals. It seems like you fit the definition. How you express that interest is up to you! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 16:54, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Thank you! I was actually nervous about being scrutinized about my age, my reasons, and such, but you didn't say a word about it. I am ecstatic that (ridiculous though it may sound) I am "classified" so to speak. Going off topic, (just wanted to say this) I find it hilarious that most people who make fun of Furries, 1. Often quote Encyclopedia Dramatica, 2. Most likely are/were fans of the Warner Bros (you know Tom and Jerry among others), and 3. Repeat the same insults over and over. Going back, I can't thank you enough for being so accepting of me. I have actually dealt with people who attacked me for my interests on the subject, but I'm just glad that I have finally gotten clarity on the question of "Am I? or am I not?". Thanks so much, [[User:Perservere|Perservere]] 17:07, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

== Spam filter exception ==

I'm linking to my survey's results page, and want "<tt><nowiki>Results</nowiki></tt>" to "<tt><nowiki>[http://bit.ly/UltFurSur2011stats Results]</nowiki></tt>" on [[UFS2011]] —[[User:Supuhstar| '''''Supuhstar''''']] [[User_talk:Supuhstar| *]] [[User:Supuhstar/Simpedia|'''''§''''']] 15:39, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
:That link doesn't seem to work, though. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 15:42, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
::Sorry, I meant /UFS2011stats —[[User:Supuhstar| '''''Supuhstar''''']] [[User_talk:Supuhstar| *]] [[User:Supuhstar/Simpedia|'''''§''''']] 01:59, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

== Interesting how you put a message first! ==

I believe (even if in a small way) that the article is relevant. Examples being any sort of reptilian anthropomorph, as on your page "Scalies", and any possible others (not much of an argument, I know, but I'm determined). I have revised that article with more accurate information, examples, and links. I will also add a "Species List", of what furry creatures are considered cold-blooded. Keep in mind, I'm not looking to fight anyone, overeaction is all too common. I see your point of view, but we can't trade thoughts. Anyways, good luck, [[User:Perservere|Perservere]] 19:05, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Do you see some relevance in the article now, sir? I certainly do. [[User:Perservere|Perservere]] 20:22, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

== Two images ==

A little bit ago I was trying to handle a situation where a new user had uploaded an image with a "generic" filename, in this case Example.jpg, for which there was an existing file by the same name, and he apparently had simply replaced the existing image with the new one. What I would like to have done, but couldn't figure out how, was to "fork" both the new and old versions, i.e. to rename the image per the new version, then revert the redirect to point to the old one (which I was also going to rename to something more meaningful than Example.jpg). As far as I was able to determine, the only way to do this was to save one of the versions of the image and re-create it as a new image. Do you know of a better way to do this? Incidentally, it turned out the old version was being referenced by [[User:Ratty913|only one user page]], and the overwritten version of the image was uploaded more recently and by a different user, and therefore was probably not the one intended by the userpage author, so it is now effectively a deleted image, though in actuality it still lives on in the version history of the [[:File:MorinWolf.jpg|renamed image]]. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 16:52, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
:I do not believe there is a way to do image forking in MediaWiki. The best solution is probably to upload the new image to a separate page, revert the old image, delete the revision of the new image that is on the old image page and then move that to a better filename. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 16:57, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

== Please remove my name and email address from this article ==

Hi,

I would really appreciate it if you could remove my name and email address from this question I asked several years ago?

http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Forum:Furry_comics

It comes up when people search my name in search engines so i'd really appreciate it if those bits could be removed?

Thank you

P {{unsignedIP|78.147.58.35}}

:I've redacted the e-mail address from that article. Since you posted this request as an anonymous IP user, we can't tell what your name is and there are several mentioned in the article. You could just change the article yourself. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 14:04, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

- Fab, thanks, have done.

::Sorry for the reversion, I didn't see this discussion, and didn't know there was a legitimate request to remove that information (or that it was even the original user doing it). -- ''[[User:Softpaw|Natasha Softpaw]]'' ( [[User_talk:Softpaw|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Softpaw|contribs]] ) 03:49, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

User:Softpaw

2011-03-10T07:51:49Z

Softpaw: Added a SoFurry userbox, didn't know we had one!

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I'm Natasha Softpaw, and I like userboxes! Since putting a bio here would be fairly redundant, I'll point you to the article on [[Natasha Softpaw]] for more information.

Also, while I enjoy making new pages here on Wikifur, I kinda suck at getting all the formatting and such figured out, so I'm always thankful for those who come behind me and fix my contributions!

=== Contact Info ===
'''Email:''' [http://www.softpaw.eu/contact.php Click Here] (Email Form) 
'''AIM:''' NatashaSoftpaw 
'''MSN:''' greywolf@lupinia.us (Note: This is not a valid email address!) 
'''Y!:''' softpaw@ymail.com (Note: As with my MSN SN, this is not a valid email address)

=== Conventions Attended ===
'''[[Anthrocon]]:''' 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 
'''[[Megaplex]]:''' 2004, 2005, 2006, 2010 
'''[[Midwest Furfest]]:''' 2008 
'''[[Western PA Furry Weekend]]:''' 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 

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Forum:Furry comics

2011-03-10T07:50:16Z

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hi i was wondering if anyone knew of any professional furry comics? i mean the kind of thing you would actually buy in a comic book store, not just an online comic. im looking for professional artwork type stuff.

let me know if you can help! thanks!
(you can also email me on [e-mail address redacted])

Pru Elliott

:You could browse [[:Category:Comics]] for all the comics which have been published on paper. There are a number of Web-only comics, but also plenty of manga, TPBs, standard-format and ashcan books. Start with anything published by [[Antarctic Press]] and [[Shanda Fantasy Arts]], as well as [[Sofawolf Press]]. -- [[User:Siege|Siege]]([[User talk:Siege|talk]]) 20:53, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

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Xai

:I reccomend Genus, it's a long running comic and some of the issues are truly outstanding. On that note, would anyone out there like me to compile a complete listing of all issues of genus, the artists that participated in that issue, story titles and breif overviews of stories? (it would take me a while, so if nobody wants it, i won't bother)

Silibus

:Genus comics are great, but if want you can get a look at what you like at paws.ru or go to muushi.net they both have tons of comics and most of them are very professional.

Natasha Softpaw
:Silibus, the sites you link to are probably inappropriate for this forum. Paws.ru is an imageboard featuring all sorts of pirated comics and artwork posted without permission (as imageboards are prone to do), and Muushi.net is a Gallery2 installation dedicated to reposting content from commercially-sold comics and commercial websites. --[[User:Softpaw|Natasha Softpaw]] 07:45, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Silibus
:Sorry about that, I really didnt know. I just remembered seeing those comics on those sites. I didnt mean to do any wrong.

It's quite alright. I'm sure those of us that want to, have no trouble finding those sites, regardless. If anyone does happen to know a good running comic (not on the internet) I'd be interested in information too ^-^[[User:Phlax Tradorian|Phlax Tradorian]] 20:05, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

User:Softpaw

2011-03-05T10:39:55Z

Softpaw: Oh, and removing my MyFursona box for now, since they're down. Sadly, I couldn't find any other userboxes to replace it.

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I'm Natasha Softpaw, and I like userboxes! Since putting a bio here would be fairly redundant, I'll point you to the article on [[Natasha Softpaw]] for more information.

Also, while I enjoy making new pages here on Wikifur, I kinda suck at getting all the formatting and such figured out, so I'm always thankful for those who come behind me and fix my contributions!

=== Contact Info ===
'''Email:''' [http://www.softpaw.eu/contact.php Click Here] (Email Form) 
'''AIM:''' NatashaSoftpaw 
'''MSN:''' greywolf@lupinia.us (Note: This is not a valid email address!) 
'''Y!:''' softpaw@ymail.com (Note: As with my MSN SN, this is not a valid email address)

=== Conventions Attended ===
'''[[Anthrocon]]:''' 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 
'''[[Megaplex]]:''' 2004, 2005, 2006, 2010 
'''[[Midwest Furfest]]:''' 2008 
'''[[Western PA Furry Weekend]]:''' 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 

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