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<p>Seamora: /* Terms with Multiple Definitions */</p> <hr /> <div>Hi there, Seamora - welcome to WikiFur! Let me know on my user talk page if you need any [[Help:Contents|help]] not provided already. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 23:31, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Seamora Bows and smiles—It is a pleasure to contribute, and an honor to make your acquaintance. I shall certainly seek your aid should the need arise. Thank you. ^_^<br /> <br /> == Linking to a term in Wikipedia, but not in Wikifur ==<br /> <br /> May I ask how one would make a link reference to a term that, while not defined in Wikifur, and not directly furry related, is defined in Wikipedia? --{{UT|Seamora}}<br /> <br /> :Certainly. You can refer to Wikipedia like this: <nowiki>[[Wikipedia:Article name|text to display]]</nowiki>. This is often preferable to creating an actual page about it. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 20:42, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Footnote Links ==<br /> <br /> How would one create footnote links to lines in a given poem, if this is possible? --{{UT|Seamora}}<br /> <br /> :Do you meen footnotes within the poem? If so, you might want to try using the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Ref ref and note templates], which I have just copied to WikiFur. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 22:40, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Howloween Template ==<br /> <br /> Are there any plans to create a Howloween convention template? Howloween is a convention held in British Columbia, during Late October : [http://www.howloween.org Howloween 2006 Website]<br /> <br /> :If you want one, just copy the contents of any existing convention templates to [[Template:User Howloween]] and change accordingly, then create the appropriate category and make it a subcategory of [[:Category:Wikifurries]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]<sup>([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])</sup> 00:36, 15 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> Thank you so much. I shall try that. ^_^ --{{UT|Seamora}}<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> == Terms with Multiple Definitions ==<br /> <br /> What is commonly done with terms that have more than one definition? Do they have separate pages, and if so , how does one do this?--{{UT|Seamora}}</div>

Seamora //en.wikifur.com/wiki/User_talk:Seamora User talk:Seamora 2006-05-15T01:06:30Z

<p>Seamora: /* Terms with Multiple Definitions */</p> <hr /> <div>Hi there, Seamora - welcome to WikiFur! Let me know on my user talk page if you need any [[Help:Contents|help]] not provided already. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 23:31, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Seamora Bows and smiles—It is a pleasure to contribute, and an honor to make your acquaintance. I shall certainly seek your aid should the need arise. Thank you. ^_^<br /> <br /> == Linking to a term in Wikipedia, but not in Wikifur ==<br /> <br /> May I ask how one would make a link reference to a term that, while not defined in Wikifur, and not directly furry related, is defined in Wikipedia? --{{UT|Seamora}}<br /> <br /> :Certainly. You can refer to Wikipedia like this: <nowiki>[[Wikipedia:Article name|text to display]]</nowiki>. This is often preferable to creating an actual page about it. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 20:42, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Footnote Links ==<br /> <br /> How would one create footnote links to lines in a given poem, if this is possible? --{{UT|Seamora}}<br /> <br /> :Do you meen footnotes within the poem? If so, you might want to try using the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Ref ref and note templates], which I have just copied to WikiFur. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 22:40, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Howloween Template ==<br /> <br /> Are there any plans to create a Howloween convention template? Howloween is a convention held in British Columbia, during Late October : [http://www.howloween.org Howloween 2006 Website]<br /> <br /> :If you want one, just copy the contents of any existing convention templates to [[Template:User Howloween]] and change accordingly, then create the appropriate category and make it a subcategory of [[:Category:Wikifurries]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]<sup>([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])</sup> 00:36, 15 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> Thank you so much. I shall try that. ^_^ --{{UT|Seamora}}<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> == Terms with Multiple Definitions ==<br /> <br /> What is commonly done with terms that have more than one definition? Do they have separte pages, and if so , how does one do this?--{{UT|Seamora}}</div>

Seamora //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Furre! Furre! 2006-05-15T00:46:01Z

<p>Seamora: </p> <hr /> <div>Furre! is the official table-top version of the [[role-playing]] continuity within [[Furcadia]], and is based on the Pocket Universe role-playing games by [[Talzhemir]] and Jeff Dee.<br /> <br /> In the rules of the game, a distinction is made between [[Persona Play]] and [[Roleplay]], as opposed to roleplaying (with no capitalisation). Included also are the [[Rules of Cool]], the consent rules for combat or social interaction within the Furcadian continuity.<br /> <br /> Furre! is also the title of an online Furcadian fan magazine.<br /> <br /> == External Links ==<br /> <br /> * [http://www.furcadia.com/roleplay/furre.html Information about the Furre! Ropleplaying game]<br /> <br /> * [http://www.furcadia.com/roleplay/chargen7.html Furre! The official Furcadia RP Character Generation Rules]<br /> <br /> <br /> {{Stub}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:Roleplaying games]]</div>

Seamora //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Furre! Furre! 2006-05-15T00:40:27Z

<p>Seamora: </p> <hr /> <div>Furre! is the official table-top version of the [[role-playing]] continuity within [[Furcadia]], and is based on the Pocket Universe role-playing games by [[Talzhemir]] and Jeff Dee.<br /> <br /> In the rules of the game, a distinction is made between [[Persona Play]] and [[Roleplay]], as opposed to roleplaying (with no capitalisation). Included also are the [[Rules of Cool]], the consent rules for combat within the Furcadian continuity.<br /> <br /> Furre! is also the title of an online Furcadian fan magazine.<br /> <br /> == External Links ==<br /> <br /> * [http://www.furcadia.com/roleplay/furre.html Information about the Furre! Ropleplaying game]<br /> <br /> * [http://www.furcadia.com/roleplay/chargen7.html Furre! The official Furcadia RP Character Generation Rules]<br /> <br /> <br /> {{Stub}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:Roleplaying games]]</div>

Seamora //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Furre! Furre! 2006-05-15T00:39:58Z

<p>Seamora: /*Furre! Roleplaying Game*/</p> <hr /> <div>Furre! is the official table-top version of the [[role-playing]] continuity within [[Furcadia]], and is based on the Pocket Universe role-playing games by Talzhemir and Jeff Dee.<br /> <br /> In the rules of the game, a distinction is made between [[Persona Play]] and [[Roleplay]], as opposed to roleplaying (with no capitalisation). Included also are the [[Rules of Cool]], the consent rules for combat within the Furcadian continuity.<br /> <br /> Furre! is also the title of an online Furcadian fan magazine.<br /> <br /> == External Links ==<br /> <br /> * [http://www.furcadia.com/roleplay/furre.html Information about the Furre! Ropleplaying game]<br /> <br /> * [http://www.furcadia.com/roleplay/chargen7.html Furre! The official Furcadia RP Character Generation Rules]<br /> <br /> <br /> {{Stub}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:Roleplaying games]]</div>

Seamora //en.wikifur.com/wiki/User_talk:Seamora User talk:Seamora 2006-05-14T21:16:27Z

<p>Seamora: </p> <hr /> <div>Hi there, Seamora - welcome to WikiFur! Let me know on my user talk page if you need any [[Help:Contents|help]] not provided already. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 23:31, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Seamora Bows and smiles—It is a pleasure to contribute, and an honor to make your acquaintance. I shall certainly seek your aid should the need arise. Thank you. ^_^<br /> <br /> == Linking to a term in Wikipedia, but not in Wikifur ==<br /> <br /> May I ask how one would make a link reference to a term that, while not defined in Wikifur, and not directly furry related, is defined in Wikipedia? --{{UT|Seamora}}<br /> <br /> :Certainly. You can refer to Wikipedia like this: <nowiki>[[Wikipedia:Article name|text to display]]</nowiki>. This is often preferable to creating an actual page about it. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 20:42, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Footnote Links ==<br /> <br /> How would one create footnote links to lines in a given poem, if this is possible? --{{UT|Seamora}}<br /> <br /> :Do you meen footnotes within the poem? If so, you might want to try using the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Ref ref and note templates], which I have just copied to WikiFur. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 22:40, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Howloween Template ==<br /> <br /> Are there any plans to create a Howloween convention template? Howloween is a convention held in British Columbia, during Late October : [http://www.howloween.org Howloween 2006 Website]</div>

Seamora //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Maus Maus 2006-05-14T20:50:49Z

<p>Seamora: /* Anthropomorphic Mice */</p> <hr /> <div>[[Image:Maus1.jpg|right|220px|''Maus'']] <br /> <br /> '''''Maus''''' is a [[Wikipedia:Pulitzer Prize|Pulitzer Prize]]-winning comic written and drawn by [[Wikipedia:Art Spiegelman|Art Spiegelman]] telling his father's true story of surviving the [[Wikipedia:Holocaust|holocaust]]. Some members of the fandom consider ''Maus'' a furry comic in that Spiegelman uses [[anthropomorphic]] characters of different species to represent different nationalities. Originally ''Maus'' was released in two volumes in small installments. Volume One was released from 1973 - 1983 and Volume Two was released from 1986 - 1991. All installments were collated into one graphic novel in 1996. ''Maus'' was published by [http://www.randomhouse.com/pantheon/ Pantheon Books].<br /> <br /> == Story ==<br /> <br /> There are two stories within ''Maus''. Vladek Spiegelman's story of surviving the holocaust, and Art Spiegelman's present day story of his flawed relationship with his father. Art Speigleman used a tape recorder to capture most of his fathers tale as he told it, but he also recorded and took note of events the occured while he was trying to create ''Maus''. Often there will be a present day scene ends with Art prompting his father to continue his story, at which point Vladek's story picks up where it was last left. Spiegelman tells a very raw story with no fear of portraying himself or his father in (at times) a negative light. It is this honesty that makes ''Maus'' so brilliant, coupled with the always important messages it delivers about prejudice and the holocaust.<br /> <br /> == Anthropomorphic Mice ==<br /> <br /> [[Image:Maus2.jpg|right|370px|Anthropomorphic characters in ''Maus'']] <br /> 'Maus' translated into English is [[mouse]]. Mice are used to represent the Jewish people and are highly [[human]] in form. [[Tail]]s are only occasionally present and the bodies and completely human, albiet covered in [[fur]], and the heads are that of mice.<br /> <br /> The reason for this creative decision is alluded to in two quotes printed in ''Maus''. The first quote is by [[Wikipedia:Adolph Hitler|Adolph Hitler]]. "The Jews are undoubtedly a race. But they are not human." The second quote is from a Pomeranian newspaper article. "[[Wikipedia:Mickey Mouse|Mickey Mouse]] is the most miserable ideal ever revealed....Healthy emotions tell every independant young man and every honourable youth that the dirty and filth-covered vermin, the greatest bacteria carrier in the animal kingdom, cannot be the ideal type of animal....Away with Jewish brutalization of the people! Down with Mikey Mouse! Wear the Swastika Cross!" So is Art Spiegelman agreeing with these quotations by using mice to represent the Jewish people? No, he is defying these statements.<br /> <br /> == Other Anthropomorphics in ''Maus'' ==<br /> <br /> Germans are represented as cats, presumably due to the predatorary power cats have over mice is an analogy of the power Nazi Germany exerted over the Jewish people. The French are frogs (simply because of the French and their infamous love of escargots), Poles are pigs, Swedes are deer and Americans are dogs.<br /> <br /> [[Category:Mature comics]]</div>

Seamora //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Frankenson_Melville Frankenson Melville 2006-05-13T06:36:21Z

<p>Seamora: Minor grammatical edits</p> <hr /> <div>'''Frankenson Melville''' is a dark-colored male [[Wikipedia:Gorean|Gorean]] [[wolf]] slave on [[Second Life]]. He is officially registered at the Master & Slave toy store as a full slave to his [[equine]] master, [[Gamemaster Carroll]], and is the head slave to his master’s growing harem. He lives in a Japanese-themed apartment with his master as a co-renter. When his master is away, he takes pictures of things and people in Second Life, and then edits them for his clients.<br /> <br /> [[Category:Wolf characters]]</div>

Seamora //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Alaina_Rose Alaina Rose 2006-05-13T06:31:52Z

<p>Seamora: Minor punctuation and typographical edits</p> <hr /> <div>[[Image:AR-angel60-c.png|right|thumb|220px|Alaina's fursona, Angel]]<br /> <b>Alaina Rose</b> (a.k.a. <b>FallenAngel</b> and <b>ObliviousAlly</b>) is a furry artist living in Streetsboro, Ohio, USA. She has been in the fandom since the 1997 when she discovered [[Yerf]] (back when it was the [[SCFA]]) via the [[Sonic the Hedgehog]] fandom. She started drawing in high school and began posting, sharing her art with friends, and then posting on [[Side 7]] (gallery now deleted) and [[VCL]]. <br /> <br /> She has numerous characters, although her main fursona is [http://fallenangel.furtopia.org/ART/AR-angel66-c.png Angel], a neon-orange fox whose appearance is based on her own in real life. She has an extended backstory and world for her characters which she shares with her mate [[Keeper Of Dreams]]. The ones that are most recognizable and show up in her art most frequently would be [http://fallenangel.furtopia.org/ART/AR-phoenix67-c.png Phoenix], [http://fallenangel.furtopia.org/ART/AR-gwen22.png Gwen] and [http://fallenangel.furtopia.org/ART/AR-shira14-c.png Shira].<br /> <br /> She frequents the [[Furtopia.org]] forums as well as a handful of [[IRC]] channels. She's a part of [[LT3M]], as well. She plays on [[Tapestries MUCK]] as numerous characters.<br /> <br /> == Art ==<br /> <br /> [[Image:art_examples.png|center|A few examples of Alaina's art.]]<br /> <br /> Alaina's art is slightly [[anime]] inspired, though she's been attempting to draw away from that style, as it's so popular. She originally drew with more of a [[Sonic the Hedgehog]] style. Some of her pieces tend to be stagnant, another thing she is aware of but has a hard time getting away from. She mostly works with digital media, but she has been branching out and praticing with traditional (mostly marker) media as of late. She draws her females with curves, and with actual meat on their bones, as opposed to the stick thin and almost anexoric characters that are out there. Her pieces tend to have thick outlines and bright colors.<br /> <br /> The majority of her work is unpublished personal art, gift art and commission work. <br /> <br /> == Conventions == <br /> <br /> Alaina has attended [[Further Confusion 2006]] and will also be attending [[Anthrocon 2006]]. She will more than likely be in the [[Artists Alley]] at [[Anthrocon]]. Formerly, she staffed at [http://www.colossalcon.com Colossal Con], an anime convention in Cleveland, Ohio, USA.<br /> <br /> == External links ==<br /> <br /> * ''[http://fallenangel83.livejournal.com/ Keep your guard up, girl...]'' - Alaina's [[LiveJournal]]<br /> * [http://fallenangel.furtopia.org/ Pipedreams] - Website<br /> * [http://obliviousally.deviantart.com DeviantART Gallery]<br /> * [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/obliviousally/ FurAffinity Gallery]<br /> * [http://us.vclart.net/vcl/Artists/Alaina-Rose/ VCL Gallery]<br /> <br /> [[Category:People]]<br /> [[Category:Artists]]<br /> [[Category:Fox characters]]<br /> [[Category:Ohio]]<br /> [[Category:1983 births]]</div>

Seamora //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Terebinth Terebinth 2006-05-13T06:05:15Z

<p>Seamora: Minor punctuation edits</p> <hr /> <div>'''''Terebinth''''' is a [[webcomic]] about a bird, a lizard, a tree, and a rock. Since that rather obtuse origin, it has grown to incorporate a much larger cast of characters and a larger world than just the little oasis in the middle of a great plain where the central characters live. What creator [[Michael H. Payne]] lacks in artistic polish he makes up for in wit, poetry, and all-around intelligent writing and scripting. <br /> <br /> == A Brief History ==<br /> ''Terebinth'''s first story appeared in ''[[Yarf]]'' from 1999-2003 and appeared online for the first time during that period. It later migrated to [[Pandora Comics]] where it remains to this day.<br /> <br /> == Characters ==<br /> * '''Kestrel B. Finch''' - [[Kestrel]] is a male [[avian]] of unspecified [[species]] who is unusually large due to a condition similar to [[Wikipedia:acromegaly|acromegaly]]. He has a highly developed mind, but also exhibits a somewhat bipolar personality, and has been known to erupt in violent rages from time to time. Emotionally sensitive, he willingly accepts a "female" role in his relationship with [[Cory]].<br /> <br /> * '''Terpsichore''' (Cory) - Cory is a female [[lizard]] who was born to dance. Unfortunately, because this ability is so rare among her people, she became an object of fear and was forced to flee to solitude. She made her home near the base of the tree called Terebinth where Kestrel soon found himself. Cory's independent spirit is coupled with a stoic personality, which has helped her take care of herself in many a difficult situation. In the course of their first adventure, Cory and Kestrel become more than just friends.<br /> <br /> * '''Terebinth''' - The tree which marks the spot where Kestrel and Cory live is a mysterious yet friendly being who draws information from far-flung regions through his deep roots. He has no aspirations except to be helpful, and perhaps to call a few creatures good friends.<br /> <br /> * '''The Stone''' - The stone, being the only other object of note in the vicinity of Terebinth (excepting Cory's shelter), has been a source of fascination for Kestrel since he noticed it. Kestrel's artistic sensibilities led him first to paint a face on it, and later to make a hat for it. When a young mute [[squirrel]] named Bert found his ability to speak by repeating stories he heard from the stone to his friends, the stone became even more mysterious. Its true nature is yet to be discovered.<br /> <br /> * Other supporting characters include Bert's sister Esther, a bird named Wardell, a [[coyote]] named Sammy, and more recently Bert and Esther's, as well as Wardell's, parents.<br /> <br /> == Overview ==<br /> From the first story ''Hat Dance'', which introduced some minor characters which resurfaced much later, to the most recent, Terebinth is full of philosophy, emotional conflict, physical conflict, and suspense. Terebinth is a mature read, but without excessive violence or sexual content. Payne's primary bent as a novelist shines through the way the stories are told, yet he also manages to employ very unusual visual devices as well.<br /> <br /> == External links ==<br /> <br /> * ''[http://pandora.xepher.net/terebinth Terebinth]''<br /> <br /> [[Category:comics]][[Category:1999 births]]</div>

Seamora //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Otter_Island_Radio_Show Otter Island Radio Show 2006-05-13T05:43:11Z

<p>Seamora: minor spelling and punctuation edits</p> <hr /> <div>The '''Otter Island Radio Show''' is a non-profit fan-production series of internet audio plays, based on the ''[[Otter Island]]'' story world created by [[Oren Otter]]. It is produced by the [[Riverside Players]] group, headed by main writer/director Oren Otter and sound engineer [[Eala Dubh]]. Four monthly episodes have so far been produced: ''Drifting'', ''A Place In The Sun'', ''Peals Of Thunder'' and ''Aftershocks'', with the fifth and sixth episodes planned as a two-part story, ''For Want Of A Stone''. Most episodes are concerned with events surrounding the Nageel invasion of the island, and its subsequent consequences.<br /> <br /> Key players and their recurring characters include:<br /> <br /> * Oren Otter (Oren, Amanda, Grant, Tim the android, Ophelia the toon, voice of the Island)<br><br /> * Eala Dubh (Tak, Truman, Olivia the toon, Nageel Emperor)<br><br /> * [[Ashen Fox]] (Blalok, Sheldon, King Mij)<br><br /> * [[Kaninus O'Ferrel]] (Malcrum, Gabriel, Seyna)<br /> <br /> Supporting members include [[Wanderer Wolf]], [[Timelord]], [[Jude The Rat]], and [[Ann Vole]].<br /> <br /> The main title and end theme, used from episode four onwards, with opening narration, is provided by prominent furry composer [[Chama C. Fox]], replacing a previous piece of music borrowed from [[Wikipedia:Peter Howell|Peter Howell]] of the old [[Wikipedia:BBC Radiophonic Workshop|BBC Radiophonic Workshop]]. Incidental music for the episodes is borrowed mainly from another Radiophonic Workshop composer, [[Wikipedia:Paddy Kingsland|Paddy Kingsland]].<br /> <br /> It is recommended that prospective listeners gain some familiarity with the story world before listening to individual episodes. The series also improves substantially in sound quality from episode to episode, so much so that the earliest episodes are scheduled to be remade at a convenient time.<br /> <br /> == External links ==<br /> <br /> * [http://www.ottercomics.us/otterisland/ Otter Island website]<br /> * [http://www.taur.net/~ottercomics/otterisland/ Otter Island Radio Show]<br /> <br /> [[Category:Radio]]</div>

Seamora //en.wikifur.com/wiki/User_talk:Rat User talk:Rat 2006-05-11T17:45:52Z

<p>Seamora: /* Article Illustrations */</p> <hr /> <div>:''Don't copy conversations from other pages to here. I will watch other pages if I add to their conversation.''<br /> <br /> Hi there, Rat - welcome to WikiFur! Thanks for your contributions so far - let me know on my [[User talk:GreenReaper|user talk page]] if you need any [[help]] not already provided. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 07:28, 27 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Article Illustrations ==<br /> <br /> Hello. I noticed that you requested artists to create art to add to WikiFur articles. I wish to say that if you wish, you may let me know if there are any articles you think need art, and I will be glad to draw something for them. Also, if I do happen to see any unillustrated articles, may I notify you to show whether what I add is acceptable? I am not sure of what the guidelines are for art at this time; however, so I shall need to find that out. -- {{UT|Seamora}} 10:35, 11 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Misinformation ==<br /> <br /> I think [[User:24.20.194.136]] is adding misinformation (all the edits about North Star Kung Fu). -- [[User:Rat|Rat]] 09:51, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Yes, it does seem to have been a little odd. Someone trying to perpetuate an in-joke, I believe. Thanks for taking action. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 17:10, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Whoops . . . ==<br /> <br /> Sorry! We can always make a [[Rat (notthatperson)]] if you want. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 04:19, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == New tabs ==<br /> <br /> Welcome to [[WikiFur:Administrators]]! I noticed your recent reverts, and I thought it might be best to let you deal with that sort of thing yourself, if needed. You may notice a few new tabs along the top, and some other changes around the site in relation to user blocking, rollbacks and the like. I suggest you look over [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Administrators|this page]] if you're not familiar with how to use them. Hopefully you won't need them much, but they're there for when you do. Use them wisely! :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 05:43, 25 Oct 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == "include" ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for catching that. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 04:29, 8 Nov 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == 10k edits ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for giving your attention to the wiki - I'd like to recommend the 'preview' button, however. -- [[User:Siege|Siege]] 15:11, 25 Nov 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Recent vandal ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for catching that one. In that sort of situation (multiple page blanking or simple vandalism) you can add "&bot=1" to the URL of the user's contribution page and then reload the page with that URL. This will make it so that the contributions effectively disappear on recent changes when you roll them back (unless you look for them by turning bot actions on) and the only thing that appears is the ban. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 16:38, 26 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> In response to Rat: Yes, there wasn't much of a point to it, more of a dare and being an on the whim action. I'm sure you can guess ''why'' it was done, with his background, though I agree it was rude and I apologize. --Nytwolf<br /> <br /> == Recent vandal ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for helping out with that spate of vandalism. Not sure what was up with that. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]<sup>([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])</sup> 22:40, 11 April 2006 (UTC)</div>

Seamora //en.wikifur.com/wiki/User_talk:Rat User talk:Rat 2006-05-11T17:45:31Z

<p>Seamora: /* Article Illustrations */</p> <hr /> <div>:''Don't copy conversations from other pages to here. I will watch other pages if I add to their conversation.''<br /> <br /> Hi there, Rat - welcome to WikiFur! Thanks for your contributions so far - let me know on my [[User talk:GreenReaper|user talk page]] if you need any [[help]] not already provided. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 07:28, 27 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Article Illustrations ==<br /> <br /> Hello. <br /> <br /> I noticed that you requested artists to create art to add to WikiFur articles. I wish to say that if you wish, you may let me know if there are any articles you think need art, and I will be glad to draw something for them. Also, if I do happen to see any unillustrated articles, may I notify you to show whether what I add is acceptable? I am not sure of what the guidelines are for art at this time; however, so I shall need to find that out. -- {{UT|Seamora}} 10:35, 11 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Misinformation ==<br /> <br /> I think [[User:24.20.194.136]] is adding misinformation (all the edits about North Star Kung Fu). -- [[User:Rat|Rat]] 09:51, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Yes, it does seem to have been a little odd. Someone trying to perpetuate an in-joke, I believe. Thanks for taking action. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 17:10, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Whoops . . . ==<br /> <br /> Sorry! We can always make a [[Rat (notthatperson)]] if you want. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 04:19, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == New tabs ==<br /> <br /> Welcome to [[WikiFur:Administrators]]! I noticed your recent reverts, and I thought it might be best to let you deal with that sort of thing yourself, if needed. You may notice a few new tabs along the top, and some other changes around the site in relation to user blocking, rollbacks and the like. I suggest you look over [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Administrators|this page]] if you're not familiar with how to use them. Hopefully you won't need them much, but they're there for when you do. Use them wisely! :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 05:43, 25 Oct 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == "include" ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for catching that. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 04:29, 8 Nov 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == 10k edits ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for giving your attention to the wiki - I'd like to recommend the 'preview' button, however. -- [[User:Siege|Siege]] 15:11, 25 Nov 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Recent vandal ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for catching that one. In that sort of situation (multiple page blanking or simple vandalism) you can add "&bot=1" to the URL of the user's contribution page and then reload the page with that URL. This will make it so that the contributions effectively disappear on recent changes when you roll them back (unless you look for them by turning bot actions on) and the only thing that appears is the ban. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 16:38, 26 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> In response to Rat: Yes, there wasn't much of a point to it, more of a dare and being an on the whim action. I'm sure you can guess ''why'' it was done, with his background, though I agree it was rude and I apologize. --Nytwolf<br /> <br /> == Recent vandal ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for helping out with that spate of vandalism. Not sure what was up with that. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]<sup>([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])</sup> 22:40, 11 April 2006 (UTC)</div>

Seamora //en.wikifur.com/wiki/User_talk:Rat User talk:Rat 2006-05-11T17:44:52Z

<p>Seamora: /* Article Illustrations */</p> <hr /> <div>:''Don't copy conversations from other pages to here. I will watch other pages if I add to their conversation.''<br /> <br /> Hi there, Rat - welcome to WikiFur! Thanks for your contributions so far - let me know on my [[User talk:GreenReaper|user talk page]] if you need any [[help]] not already provided. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 07:28, 27 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Article Illustrations ==<br /> <br /> Hello, I noticed that you requested artists to create art to add to WikiFur articles. I wish to say that if you wish, you may let me know if there are any articles you think need art, and I will be glad to draw something for them. Also, if I do happen to see any unillustrated articles, may I notify you to show whether what I add is acceptable? I am not sure of what the guidelines are for art at this time; however, so I shall need to find that out. -- {{UT|Seamora}} 10:35, 11 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Misinformation ==<br /> <br /> I think [[User:24.20.194.136]] is adding misinformation (all the edits about North Star Kung Fu). -- [[User:Rat|Rat]] 09:51, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Yes, it does seem to have been a little odd. Someone trying to perpetuate an in-joke, I believe. Thanks for taking action. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 17:10, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Whoops . . . ==<br /> <br /> Sorry! We can always make a [[Rat (notthatperson)]] if you want. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 04:19, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == New tabs ==<br /> <br /> Welcome to [[WikiFur:Administrators]]! I noticed your recent reverts, and I thought it might be best to let you deal with that sort of thing yourself, if needed. You may notice a few new tabs along the top, and some other changes around the site in relation to user blocking, rollbacks and the like. I suggest you look over [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Administrators|this page]] if you're not familiar with how to use them. Hopefully you won't need them much, but they're there for when you do. Use them wisely! :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 05:43, 25 Oct 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == "include" ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for catching that. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 04:29, 8 Nov 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == 10k edits ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for giving your attention to the wiki - I'd like to recommend the 'preview' button, however. -- [[User:Siege|Siege]] 15:11, 25 Nov 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Recent vandal ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for catching that one. In that sort of situation (multiple page blanking or simple vandalism) you can add "&bot=1" to the URL of the user's contribution page and then reload the page with that URL. This will make it so that the contributions effectively disappear on recent changes when you roll them back (unless you look for them by turning bot actions on) and the only thing that appears is the ban. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 16:38, 26 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> In response to Rat: Yes, there wasn't much of a point to it, more of a dare and being an on the whim action. I'm sure you can guess ''why'' it was done, with his background, though I agree it was rude and I apologize. --Nytwolf<br /> <br /> == Recent vandal ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for helping out with that spate of vandalism. Not sure what was up with that. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]<sup>([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])</sup> 22:40, 11 April 2006 (UTC)</div>

Seamora //en.wikifur.com/wiki/User_talk:Rat User talk:Rat 2006-05-11T17:43:53Z

<p>Seamora: /* Article Illustrations */</p> <hr /> <div>:''Don't copy conversations from other pages to here. I will watch other pages if I add to their conversation.''<br /> <br /> Hi there, Rat - welcome to WikiFur! Thanks for your contributions so far - let me know on my [[User talk:GreenReaper|user talk page]] if you need any [[help]] not already provided. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 07:28, 27 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Article Illustrations ==<br /> <br /> Hello, I noticed that you requested artists to create art to add to Wikifur articles. I wish to say that if you wish, you may let me know if there are any articles you think need art, and I will be glad to draw something for them. Also, if I do happen to see any unillustrated articles, may I notify you to show whether what I add is acceptable? I am not sure of what the guidelines are for art at this time; however, so I shall need to find that out. -- {{UT|Seamora}} 10:35, 11 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Misinformation ==<br /> <br /> I think [[User:24.20.194.136]] is adding misinformation (all the edits about North Star Kung Fu). -- [[User:Rat|Rat]] 09:51, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Yes, it does seem to have been a little odd. Someone trying to perpetuate an in-joke, I believe. Thanks for taking action. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 17:10, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Whoops . . . ==<br /> <br /> Sorry! We can always make a [[Rat (notthatperson)]] if you want. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 04:19, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == New tabs ==<br /> <br /> Welcome to [[WikiFur:Administrators]]! I noticed your recent reverts, and I thought it might be best to let you deal with that sort of thing yourself, if needed. You may notice a few new tabs along the top, and some other changes around the site in relation to user blocking, rollbacks and the like. I suggest you look over [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Administrators|this page]] if you're not familiar with how to use them. Hopefully you won't need them much, but they're there for when you do. Use them wisely! :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 05:43, 25 Oct 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == "include" ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for catching that. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 04:29, 8 Nov 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == 10k edits ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for giving your attention to the wiki - I'd like to recommend the 'preview' button, however. -- [[User:Siege|Siege]] 15:11, 25 Nov 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Recent vandal ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for catching that one. In that sort of situation (multiple page blanking or simple vandalism) you can add "&bot=1" to the URL of the user's contribution page and then reload the page with that URL. This will make it so that the contributions effectively disappear on recent changes when you roll them back (unless you look for them by turning bot actions on) and the only thing that appears is the ban. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 16:38, 26 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> In response to Rat: Yes, there wasn't much of a point to it, more of a dare and being an on the whim action. I'm sure you can guess ''why'' it was done, with his background, though I agree it was rude and I apologize. --Nytwolf<br /> <br /> == Recent vandal ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for helping out with that spate of vandalism. Not sure what was up with that. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]<sup>([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])</sup> 22:40, 11 April 2006 (UTC)</div>

Seamora //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Category:Poetry Category:Poetry 2005-08-19T22:29:40Z

<p>Seamora: </p> <hr /> <div>Poems with anthropomorphic elements span far back through the centuries, and exist in modern popular culture. Further, there are many famous poems about animals, that have been enjoyed by furries and non-furries alike.<br /> <br /> '''Scroll down for existing Poetry pages.'''<br /> <br /> == Poems to add ==<br /> <br /> If you can think of a poem that deserves writing about, add it in here, and purrhaps someone will.<br /> <br /> <table valign="top"><br /> <tr><td>&nbsp;A-D</td><td>&nbsp;E-L</td><td>&nbsp;M-R</td><td>&nbsp;S-Z</td><br /> <tr valign="top"><td><br /> * [[Beau's Reply]]<br /> <br /> <br /> </td><td><br /> * [[Howl]]<br /> * [[Lamb, The]]<br /> <br /> </td><td><br /> * [[Mouse's Petition, The]]<br /> * [[Ode on the Death of a Favourite Cat]]<br /> <br /> </td><td><br /> * [[Spaniel Called Beau Killing a Young Bird, On a]]<br /> * [[Tyger, The]]<br /> <br /> <br /> </td></tr></table><br /> <br /> [[Category:Culture]]</div>

Seamora //en.wikifur.com/wiki/User_talk:GreenReaper User talk:GreenReaper 2005-08-19T22:23:15Z

<p>Seamora: </p> <hr /> <div>I can't say anything about if I'll be adding things regularly, but I will when I have time/ideas. As for nationstates, its neat to encounter another head of state no? I run The Union of Tinis which is part of the Furry Federation.<br /> <br /> ----<br /> Hi. Thanks for the welcome. ^^; This seems to be a confusing topic in my mind as far as sorting, but what would "StarFox" groups like RPG's belong to? Certainly the one I know about so far does not use a MU*, but rather IRC and has it's own Wiki even. --[[User:Markus|Markus]] 09:48, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Hmm. Not sure myself. Maybe you should make a new category for roleplaying groups, and then categorize that category page to <nowiki>[[Category:Community]]</nowiki>. You make new categories just by doing <nowiki>[[Category:Whatever]]</nowiki> and then clicking on the link to edit it like any other page. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 14:03, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ----<br /> <br /> Thanks for the welcome! I've really enjoyed participating in WikiFur thus far, and I'm glad my contributions have been useful. I hope to continue to be an active participant in this community effort, and I think it's really going to be a success. ^_^ --[[User:Flynn|Flynn]] 03:34, 10 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ----<br /> <br /> No problem! Great, great project. I'll be contributing more as time allows and directing others to it as well. The pro-vanity page policy is an excellent idea. --[[User:Osfer|Osfer]]<br /> <br /> == Redirect ==<br /> <br /> How does one create a redirect? Ie, to redirect "Camp Feral" to Feral? --{{UT|Tafyrn}}<br /> <br /> :Just type <nowiki>#REDIRECT [[Feral]]</nowiki> on [[Camp Feral]]. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 03:49, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Cleanup ==<br /> <br /> GreenReaper: thanks for your efforts in cleaning up newly created entries. I've learned a great deal from comparing my original entries to the improved versions! --[[User:Osfer|Osfer]]<br /> <br /> :No problem! --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 05:43, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Is there already a 'beginner's guide' page available? If not I'd be happy to start work on it. Berhaps it could be linked to from the main page? --[[User:Osfer|Osfer]]<br /> <br /> :::There's the [[Help:Contents|help]] page, which is linked to on the side and on WikiFur Central. It also links to the [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Contents guide on Meta]. If you think you can improve the help page, go right ahead! --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 05:48, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Have you considered instating a 'ranking' system to indicate users who have contributed a great deal? I'm not trolling for rewards, myself, but as a New Mediast I'm rather interested in how you'd prefer to navigate between the offering of a reward for contribution and preventing people from performing useless edits and contributions to gain a higher ranking. Ranking systems are fairly common in forums and seem to manage themselves, there. --[[User:Osfer|Osfer]]<br /> <br /> :::There are ways to measure people's contributions, if so desired. You can look at a user's contributions page, which is a link in the toolbox to the left when a user's page or talk page is selected. You can also see what other people have said on a person's user talk pages, or look at the [http://www.wikicities.com/wikistats/EN/TablesWikipediaFURRY.htm#wikipedians user section] of the [[Project:About#Statistics|statistics]] to get a rough idea of where they stand contribution-wise.<br /> <br /> :::In the end, though, for the people we really want to attract, contribution is its own reward. That's not to say people can't be ''proud'' of their contributions, of course, but obsessing over it is probably unhealthy. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 06:06, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == NPOV / Vanity Pages ==<br /> <br /> You know, if you're aiming for NPOV, you might want to consider instituting a rule about, uh, not making articles about yourself. They tend to be one-sided at best, and blatant advertisments at worst. And the authors tend to react rather badly to other people editing 'their' writeup.<br /> <br /> But then again, [http://www.everything2.com/ E2] is not NPOV and is also quite awesome. --[[User:Xax|Xax]] 19:02, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :We're not, exactly. I accept that most articles about users are going to be positive. I encourage that, actually, as it's the negative ones that seem to cause trouble. See [http://www.livejournal.com/community/wikifur/2177.html?thread=6017 this discussion] for more on my views about vanity pages, and less important pages in general. Basically, what's appropriate for Wikipedia may not be appropriate for us. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 19:12, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Oh don't worry, it was just a joke. I wouldn't actually go along with something like that, since I'd be banned pretty quickly, I'm sure. :><br /> <br /> == Blue Forest enties ==<br /> <br /> Hi! I just wanted to thank you for putting work into helping out with entries related to Blue Forest. I was plesantly surprised to see these here! I'm in the process of adding and expanding on some of them, now, and I certainly welcome any tweaking that you think needs to be done. -[[User:K.M. Hirosaki|K.M. Hirosaki]] 04:47, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :You're welcome! You obviously have a few loyal fans who cared enough to start them. I'll be watching, but your pages seem pretty good so far. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 04:55, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Is it possible to have both me redirect page "Alex Vance" and my full entry "Osfer" listd under People and Writers, or is this bad form? Considering how many furs alternately use their full name or their handle on-line, I suspect such a construction may be of use to more people.<br /> <br /> Also, have you considered disallowing anonymous edits? The extra effort of registering might be a slight deterrent to casual vandals. --[[User:Osfer|Osfer]]<br /> <br /> :It can be done, but wither it is or not depends on how much longer the trolls persist in causing trouble and grief in their malicious edits. --[[User:Markus|Markus]] 13:16, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == kekeke goon rush ==<br /> <br /> At this point I would just suggest forbidding anon edits and new account creation for a few hours (if you can do that) --[[User:Xax|Xax]] 18:14, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> ==OMG whut admin?==<br /> No, I certainly don't mind keeping an eye on the RC for vandalism for the time being. The whole "goon rush" issue is what helped me find out about this wiki :) [[User:MelSkunk|MelSkunk]] 19:21, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Article naming convention proposal ==<br /> <br /> When I saw [[Serval]] come up as an article, I knew we were going to have an issue. As I'm sure you're aware, some of the older fur fans have gone by animal names as fan names. I propose that we have a <nowiki>[[Category:Species]]</nowiki> with names of things that are animals, as opposed to characters, appended with Serval (species) or Panther (species) or Fox (species), sort of like how WP is has (film) and such.<br /> What do you think? [[User:MelSkunk|MelSkunk]] 05:14, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :It's a good idea. Go for it! --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 05:31, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == About "admin" status. ==<br /> <br /> I feel kind of weird for now noticing this, and even weirder for bringing it up, but I'll throw this out there anyway:<br /> <br /> WikiFur:Administrators lists me as an admin, and you've also done it on the community LiveJournal which proves that it wasn't just a misclick or anything like that, but after looking up what I'd be able to do with this status, I notice that... well, none of it's there. :) I confirmed this by looking at the literal special page and notice that, while Osfer's name is on there, mine isn't.<br /> <br /> Not harping on you to get '''right on this''' so I can go willy nilly on this here Internet Wikipedia machine, because that would be stupid, but can you double-check to see if you did add me to the actual admin database? Thanks. -- [[User:Verix|Verix]] 06:17, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : *scratches head* - I certainly ''thought'' I put you in there . . . I was on wireless, though, so maybe it didn't take . I was in a bit of a rush adding new admins at the time, so I didn't check. Sorry! Should work now. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 06:21, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: And there it is in the log. Thank you for trusting me enough to give me this ability. :) -- [[User:Verix|Verix]] 06:22, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ----<br /> <br /> Abuh? Well, that was unexpected! Thanks - I'll try to help out as best I can. --[[User:DuncanDaHusky|Duncan da Husky]] 17:18, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :You came recommended - besides, you already ''have'' been helping, this just lets you help more. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 17:28, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==More stylistic suggestions==<br /> <br /> Lord forbid, got another bother:<br /> We're getting so many dang micro articles, I think a stub-expansion template for the front might be a good idea.<br /> I've modified one of the tables to be like that in my Userpage, if you'd like to see what it looks like. I'm just excessivly reluctant to make a template without authorization, and even less wanting to add new things to the front page :) -- [[User:MelSkunk|MelSkunk]] 03:04, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :This isn't Wikipedia - you won't get flamed for making a template you think will be useful, or for editing the main page. Be bold! :-)<br /> <br /> :The only suggestion I would make is removing the last entry and the - before it as that pushes it over one line for 1024x786 maximised (I've been trying to keep all the main templates that size). Other than that, it looks good to go. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 03:07, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I shall go forth fluffily, then! -- [[User:MelSkunk|MelSkunk]] 03:12, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Languages ==<br /> I had just one question re this wiki: Are there any guidelines for creating furry articles not in English? Say, [[Chakat/ia]] or [[Chakat/ru]] or whatnot? I'm a member of Furrys Pro Interlingua, as well as a general-purpose language geekskunk, and I'm just curious. [[User:Almafeta|Almafeta]] 13:18, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The "best" way to do it would be to use something like ru.furry.wikicities.com, edit pages on there, and then use translation tags to link to them, as in Wikipedia. We do not have versions of WikiFur in other langauges at this time. If this is something you'd like to help coordinate (it will need at least one person to maintain each language), let me know what languages you'd like it set up for and I can get things set up with the Wikicities staff.<br /> <br /> :If you're not up to doing this at this time, as a ''temporary'' measure, what you suggest might work but only if you add a category to each plage, like <nowiki>[[Category:Spanish articles]]</nowiki>, and maybe put a template in the main page to indicate that there is a translation for it (you could do one template that would work for the whole page. That way we can find them to move them later on! :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 13:38, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Special bar==<br /> Also, I've created a special bar for the front page [[Template:WikiFur Central/Special|here]]. Go ahead and add it if you think it's a good idea ^^; [[User:Almafeta|Almafeta]] 08:59, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Seems a perfectly reasonable use of space. Added! --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 13:54, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Furry MUCK Logo ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for the welcome. :) I moved the logo at [[User:Markus|Markus]]'s request since he was having trouble with the TOC not liking where it was. It was either a case of the logo staying where it was but being made an image, or moving it to where the &lt;pre&gt;'ed text wouldn't damage the layout. -[[User:Nidonocu|Nidonocu]] 14:14, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Aha! I have a third option - move the TOC to the section below. You can use <nowiki>__TOC__</nowiki> to specify TOC positioning (or <nowiki>__NOTOC__</nowiki> to remove it entirely, but we need it here :-). Will see if I can figure out a good way to do that. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 14:34, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Mmm.. true the TOC can be moved but if the logo is really wanted at the top and understandibly it is the convention to have it there, pahapse taking a screencap of the wording and having a nice logo image would be better? I'll provide the image if you wish though of course, I can't edit the article currently. While I'm here, would it be ok for me to mention a few things we are missing? Um.. for one.. a deletion policy! o.O I've seen a few articles that seem to have little to do with anything furry ([[Zline]] for example). We could also do with setting up our own Manual of Style for how a biography page, a species page or term page should be laid out for example. I have er.. a -little- exprience with MediaWiki you could say. ;) I spent a good few weeks teaching myself the system and actually have a wiki of my own I'm just.. lacking the community to get it going currently. x.x Despite e-mail pokes to the people who have signed up to it. [http://nidonocu.technoweyr.co.uk/ewiki/index.php/Main_Page EpicWiki] which is a fictional writing wiki, as you can see I spent ages making it look good and now.. no support. :/ And my first wiki [http://nidonocu.technoweyr.co.uk/wiki/ here] which was my test and learning how to use it. It was going to be for a friend's project but that's on hiatus now. What I'm ''proud'' of though on that wiki is the extensive [http://nidonocu.technoweyr.co.uk/wiki/index.php?title=Help:Contents help system] I was planning after hating the mine field that is MetaWiki's. You can see from the pages I did write that I might know.. a -little- wiki syntax. ;) [http://nidonocu.technoweyr.co.uk/wiki/index.php?title=Help:Allowed_HTML] [http://nidonocu.technoweyr.co.uk/wiki/index.php?title=Help:Exploring_an_article] *squeeks* Oh seems you've already fixed it so.. never mind. o.O Hope you take some of my thoughts onboard though. o.o -[[User:Nidonocu|Nidonocu]] - [[User talk:Nidonocu|talk]] [[Image:Trans 168.png|16px|Nidonocu]] 14:59, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Policies ==<br /> <br /> I agree we need to set up some policies - deletion, featuring and the like. Right now we are trying to be as inclusive as possible becuase there's really no harm in having articles that are only mildly related to furry topics, but it's something we'll probably have to look at going forward. For now, don't be too worried if you see something that doesn't seem to fit with the wiki's purpose - we can always do a cleanup later. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 15:54, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> ::Might I suggest creating a 'dubious' template then to help us flag articles that need writers to find more proof of their 'furryness' and at a later date, give us a handyway of tracking down things to go on deletion lists. ;> The closest wikipedia tag I'd say would be [[Wikipedia:Template:Unencyclopedic]], to us of course, anything not furry related is Unencyclopedic. <br /> <br /> :::That is a big "of course". I would be wary about limiting the scope of the wiki in that respect. Topics that are only tangentially furry may still be of interest to WikiFur readers and it might well be that there is stuff that can be said about the topic that relates to the furry fandom, and which would not be accepted in the "right" place. Obviously there are cases where links should be converted into links to Wikipedia and the like, but that is not always the case.<br /> <br /> ::Likewise, we could do with getting [[Wikipedia:Template:Advert]] for pages which are clearly adverts for furry sites and need turning in to articles. Infact.. I was about to list a few more but realised we could do with importing quite a few of the templates. Would you mind if I did so and made changes where needed? I'll also make some wikifur: namespace pages if needed with info and so on about them and how to use. -[[User:Nidonocu|Nidonocu]] - [[User talk:Nidonocu|talk]] [[Image:Trans 168.png|16px|Nidonocu]] 16:04, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Go ahead - be bold! But also, be somewhat wary that you do not bite newcommers by telling them that their contributions are not wanted. If you can see a way to expand the from (say) a stub about an unrelated technology to an article about how the technology is used in the furry community, with links to articles in more depth over on (say) Wikipedia, then that would be more appropriate.<br /> <br /> :::Note that you can theoretically use wikicities templates with this method: <nowiki>{{Wikicities:Advert}}</nowiki>. However, if you have time I would import the template as there have been problems with this - most notably it is case-sensitive!<br /> <br /> :::I disagree with the use of the Unencyclpediaic template because I think it imposes strong an opinion on something that ''is'' a matter of opinion - there's been [[Wikipedia:Template_talk:Unencyclopedic|a lot of discussion]] about it. The Advert one sounds fine, because it is a more obvious statement about the quality of an article. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 16:22, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Very well, I'll get going and take on what you've said. :) More fun than staring at Recent Changes. o.O I'll send some links your way when I've made a few up. -[[User:Nidonocu|Nidonocu]] - [[User talk:Nidonocu|talk]] [[Image:Trans 168.png|16px|Nidonocu]] 16:34, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Stylebook ==<br /> <br /> No problem. Is there a stylebook I need to refer to? I see that there have been style changes to the page and I'd rather save somefur else the work if I can...--[[User:Fferret|Fferret]] 19:23, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :To be honest, there isn't one right now - WikiFur only really took off last saturday, and it's been such a rush that we've been figuring them out as we go along. The best guide right now is to extrapolate from existing pages and from Wikipedia. If you do things so that they look the same as similar pages, at least it's consistent. Of course, if you think you have a better way of doing it, you could change them all. Be bold! :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 19:10, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Person pages vs. Personal pages ==<br /> <br /> Since this is going unanswered in the Category talk:People section, I'm going to take this here. :><br /> <br /> I'd like to take initiative to start removing information that's too personal-- such as the likes and dislikes of a person, who they're friends with-- in order to make the people pages sound more informational and less like the person is advertising themselves to other possible friends or love interests. Not saying that these are bad, but inapropriate for something like this wiki, which is supposed to be an online encyclopedia.<br /> <br /> Thoughts? --[[User:Verix|Verix]] 19:35, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Answered on [[Category talk:People]]. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 19:46, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Linking to a term in Wikipedia, but not in Wikifur ==<br /> <br /> May I ask how one would make a link reference to a term that, while not defined in Wikifur, and not directly furry related, is defined in Wikipedia? --{{UT|Seamora}}<br /> <br /> :Certainly. You can refer to Wikipedia like this: <nowiki>[[Wikipedia:Article name|text to display]]</nowiki>. This is often preferable to creating an actual page about it. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 20:42, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == How do I add an article to a category? ==<br /> <br /> Hi I wish to add an article to a category but the edit feature only allows me to edit the top portion of the page. I tried * [[name of category]] and that places link in wrong place. I tried <nowiki>[[category:whatever]]</nowiki> and that puts link at bottom of page and not as article. Please I looked all over the help section and found nothing usefull for this problem. --[[User:Lupinelonewolf|Lupinelonewolf]]<br /> <br /> : (answered) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 21:09, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == OK I tried that but it puts link in incorrect place ==<br /> <br /> I understand what you are saying but I am having difficulty trying to place that link into the section labled "articles" in this Category, rather the link is being placed above in a non related portion of the page<br /> <br /> I am trying to place a linkie to Anthrofest which is a con in Canada next yr in August and is not listed yet under conventions. Furry Wiki has good exposure and the hope is that people take notice of the unfamiliar name to many and attend. Every time though that I try to post it it puts the link in the wrong place. I want to put the link Under A and right after Anthrocon in the A category on the conventions page. <br /> <br /> So I went to the edit section of that page and I guess that portion of the page is protected or something because I cannot get my link to go where I want it. As for the whole "whatever issue I was following advice I found in greenreapers usertalk and somehow a "furfright" ended up in the F like it should have and thus I was trying to repeat that. I think now I realize that what happened was someone saw what I was doing and I did it incorrectly and so they obliged me and did it themself. I appologize for that but still am confused as to add to that "article" portion of the "conventions" page.<br /> <br /> :Ahh, I see. The thing you have to understand is that you do not edit the category page to put an article into the category - you edit the page that you want to put ''into'' the category. In this case, you would edit the [[Anthrofest]] article . . . but that article doesn't exist, so you should click that red link to create it. Try just putting a few words and then <nowiki>[[Category:Conventions]]</nowiki> at the end. You should see a link to Category:Conventions appear at the bottom, and when you save that page, it will appear in [[:Category:Conventions]], as you intended. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 21:58, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Keep, Merge, Delete==<br /> Hah!<br /> Man, you make funny even funnier. -- [[User:MelSkunk|MelSkunk]] 00:13, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Hi!==<br /> Thanks for the warm welcome GreenReaper. While I only have had a little bit of experience with Wikis in general, I hope that I'll be able to contribute where I can. ^^<br /> Ta! --[[User:Composingliger|Composingliger]] 05:53, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :Well, I'm sure you'll learn quickly! Thanks for getting permission for that picture of Mab. :-) --GreenReaper(talk) 05:57, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> ::Hmmm... I just noticed that the templates on the front page have been locked now... Hmmm It's a bit of a catch 22 with Wikis isn't it. On one hand you WANT people to be able to maintain, update and improve on things... On the other, there's always people who just like to ruin and vandalise things. I guess it's probbaly the right thing to do, especially being the main page... But a shame that it has to be done. =/ --[[User:Composingliger|Composingliger]] 07:06, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::They were locked temporarily due to someone vandalising them. They should be unlocked now (unless it's happened again). --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 19:10, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::And yes, that's OK. Amber said that it's fine to use her art for any of the related articles. --[[User:Composingliger|Composingliger]] 07:10, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == New article ==<br /> <br /> Pardon me if this is a really dumb question, but how does one get to the initial edit screen to create a new article if there is no existing "Article to add" link to start from?<br /> <br /> :Not a dumb question at all - it's not hugely obvious. One way is to create such a link by putting <nowiki>[[Something]]</nowiki> into an existing article - such a related article. This is usually a good idea because it encourages pages to be linked to related pages. However, if there isn't any page for which this is appropriate, you should either put this link in the [[Sandbox]] and delete it later, or type the URL in manually. If you look at the URL for this page, you should see that it includes the name of the page - you can change the URL to any name and it will go to that page, even if it doesn't exist yet. You can then click edit and start typing! --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 14:17, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == On pre-emptive protection: ==<br /> <br /> It wasn't pre-emptive. Yesterday there was perpetual vandalism going on on the front page from YTMND.com, spamming "GNAA™" and editing various other parts of the template where they'd just add something stupid. Just wanted to clarify that. :) --[[User:Verix|Verix]] 14:20, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :OK. :-) Just make sure you unprotect them when they go away again! *grin* --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 14:30, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Regarding pre-emptively protecting things, I'd like to propose that we really ''should'' be protecting certain "high-visibility" pages, such as the main page and the templates for menus and such. If any one of those gets vandalized, it could affect the entire site instead of a single page. Also, I'm not sure that we want random users modifying them without checking with us in the first place, even if their intentions ''are'' good. Thoughts? --[[User:Dmuth|Dmuth]] 19:35, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Subpages for Project/Wikifur Namespace ==<br /> <br /> Heya, I'm close to finishing my work with the templates. :) However, I wanted to make the one page I have now ([[Wikifur:Boiler Plate Text]]) become an introduction page (similar to [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Template_messages|this one]] on Wikipedia) and have multiple pages for different template types as [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Subpages|Subpages]]. However, it seems this feature isn't set to allow them in the Project(Wikifur) namespace. Would it be possible for you to turn them on? I don't know how it works with Wikicities but on standalone wiki's, its a setting in LocalSettings.php. Many thanks. :) -[[User:Nidonocu|Nidonocu]] - [[User talk:Nidonocu|talk]] [[Image:Trans 168.png|16px|Nidonocu]] 14:59, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I'm not sure what the problem is - I was able to make [[Wikifur:Boiler Plate Text/Test]] just fine (deleted it now). Am I misunderstanding what you were trying to do? If so, please tell me exactly what pages you were trying to make/edit and what error message you got. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 17:26, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::According to [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Subpages]], making a link of <nowiki>[[/All Templates]]</nowiki> on the page you wish to have as the parent should save to be 'parent/All Templates'. However, its actually just gone and made [[:/All_Templates]]. If it was a true subpage, it should have a little breadcrumb link auto inserted, like on this page of my wiki here: http://nidonocu.technoweyr.co.uk/ewiki/index.php/User:Nidonocu/Management_Links<br /> ::-[[User:Nidonocu|Nidonocu]] - [[User talk:Nidonocu|talk]] [[Image:Trans 168.png|16px|Nidonocu]] 18:40, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Ahh, right, so it's [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Link#Subpage_feature this] - OK, I'll ask. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 18:59, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Thanks --[[User:Nidonocu|Nidonocu]] - [[User talk:Nidonocu|talk]] [[Image:Trans 168.png|16px|Nidonocu]] 19:05, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::Should be done. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 19:16, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::::Yeap! All good! Many thanks! :D --[[User:Nidonocu|Nidonocu]] - [[User talk:Nidonocu|talk]] [[Image:Trans 168.png|16px|Nidonocu]] 19:18, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)\<br /> == Categoreis and subcategories ==<br /> <br /> Thank you for the friendly welcome message. The help system seems fairly complete. I find it much more useful to click the "edit" section of more complete entries and just look at the code to figure things out, but I know that doesn't work for some people. I do have a question that may be in there somewhere and I missed it. How are categories and subcategories created? It seems to me that one of the sub-categories within People ought to be "publishers." Otherwise, this seems fun and to be growing nicely. -- Gene<br /> <br /> :Categories are created like any page, by making links to them or going to their pages. However, to get the links in the right place, you place the special tag <nowiki>[[Category:YourCategoryName]]</nowiki> into the article that you want to be in the new category (or <nowiki>[[Category:YourCategoryName|Optional String To Sort By]]</nowiki> if you don't want it sorted in the list by the article name). This will create a link at the bottom. If it's red, then you can create the category page by clicking it, editing and saving the resulting page - your article page will then be present on there. If the link is blue, then it already existed, and your article page will be added to it. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 21:00, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Boiler Plate Text ==<br /> <br /> It is sooo finished @_@<br /> :'''[[WikiFur:Boiler_Plate_Text]]'''<br /> Please link this where ever possible. I've improved quite a few of the templates too in the process. Made up all their connected category pages and so forth. Only thing that needs doing is the voting pages for [[Template:Ifd]] and [[Template:Speedy Deletion]]. I'll do those in a bit, using Wikipedia as a base to work from.<br /> <br /> I have no life, seriously. ;)<br /> :--[[User:Nidonocu|Nidonocu]] - [[User talk:Nidonocu|talk]] [[Image:Trans 168.png|16px|Nidonocu]] 20:57, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Troll ==<br /> <br /> Troll running though right now: [[User:66.140.87.119|66.140.87.119]]<br /> <br /> : Thank you, masked stranger! --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 22:15, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: It's me again (Loiosh). I watch the recent changes page.<br /> <br /> == Footnote Links ==<br /> <br /> How would one create footnote links to lines in a given poem, if this is possible? --{{UT|Seamora}}</div>

Seamora //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Category:Poetry Category:Poetry 2005-08-19T05:15:41Z

<p>Seamora: </p> <hr /> <div>Poems with anthropomorphic elements span far back throught the centuries, and exist in modern popular culture .<br /> <br /> '''Scroll down for existing Poetry pages.'''<br /> <br /> == Poems to add ==<br /> <br /> If you can think of a poem that deserves writing about, add it in here, and maybe someone will.<br /> <br /> <table valign="top"><br /> <tr><td>&nbsp;A-D</td><td>&nbsp;E-L</td><td>&nbsp;M-R</td><td>&nbsp;S-Z</td><br /> <tr valign="top"><td><br /> * [[Beau's Reply]]<br /> <br /> <br /> </td><td><br /> * [[Lamb, The]]<br /> <br /> </td><td><br /> * [[Mouse's Petition, The]]<br /> <br /> </td><td><br /> * [[Spaniel Called Beau Killing a Young Bird, On a]]<br /> * [[Tyger, The]]<br /> <br /> <br /> </td></tr></table><br /> <br /> [[Category:Culture]]</div>

Seamora //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Category:Poetry Category:Poetry 2005-08-19T05:14:53Z

<p>Seamora: </p> <hr /> <div>Poems with anthropomorphic elements span far back throught the centuries, and exist in modern popular culture .<br /> <br /> '''Scroll down for existing Poetry pages.'''<br /> <br /> == Poems to add ==<br /> <br /> If you can think of a poem that deserves writing about, add it in here, and maybe someone will.<br /> <br /> <table valign="top"><br /> <tr><td>&nbsp;A-D</td><td>&nbsp;E-L</td><td>&nbsp;M-R</td><td>&nbsp;S-Z</td><br /> <tr valign="top"><td><br /> * [[Beau's Reply]]<br /> * [[]]<br /> * [[]]<br /> * [[]]<br /> <br /> </td><td><br /> * [[]]<br /> * [[]]<br /> * [[]]<br /> * [[]]<br /> * [[Lamb, The]]<br /> <br /> </td><td><br /> * [[Mouse's Petition, The]]<br /> * [[]]<br /> * [[]]<br /> * [[]]<br /> </td><td><br /> * [[Spaniel Called Beau Killing a Young Bird, On a]]<br /> * [[Tyger, The]]<br /> * [[]]<br /> * [[]]<br /> <br /> </td></tr></table><br /> <br /> [[Category:Culture]]</div>

Seamora //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Category:Poetry Category:Poetry 2005-08-19T05:13:47Z

<p>Seamora: </p> <hr /> <div>Poems with anthropomorphic elements span far back throught the centuries, and exist in modern popular culture .<br /> <br /> '''Scroll down for existing novel pages.'''<br /> <br /> == Poems to add ==<br /> <br /> If you can think of a poem that deserves writing about, add it in here, and maybe someone will.<br /> <br /> <table valign="top"><br /> <tr><td>&nbsp;A-D</td><td>&nbsp;E-L</td><td>&nbsp;M-R</td><td>&nbsp;S-Z</td><br /> <tr valign="top"><td><br /> * [[Beau's Reply]]<br /> * [[]]<br /> * [[]]<br /> * [[]]<br /> <br /> </td><td><br /> * [[]]<br /> * [[]]<br /> * [[]]<br /> * [[]]<br /> * [[Lamb, The]]<br /> <br /> </td><td><br /> * [[Mouse's Petition, The]]<br /> * [[]]<br /> * [[]]<br /> * [[]]<br /> </td><td><br /> * [[Spaniel Called Beau Killing a Young Bird, On a]]<br /> * [[Tyger, The]]<br /> * [[]]<br /> * [[]]<br /> <br /> </td></tr></table><br /> <br /> [[Category:Culture]]</div>

Seamora //en.wikifur.com/wiki/User_talk:GreenReaper User talk:GreenReaper 2005-08-18T20:30:38Z

<p>Seamora: </p> <hr /> <div>I can't say anything about if I'll be adding things regularly, but I will when I have time/ideas. As for nationstates, its neat to encounter another head of state no? I run The Union of Tinis which is part of the Furry Federation.<br /> <br /> ----<br /> Hi. Thanks for the welcome. ^^; This seems to be a confusing topic in my mind as far as sorting, but what would "StarFox" groups like RPG's belong to? Certainly the one I know about so far does not use a MU*, but rather IRC and has it's own Wiki even. --[[User:Markus|Markus]] 09:48, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Hmm. Not sure myself. Maybe you should make a new category for roleplaying groups, and then categorize that category page to <nowiki>[[Category:Community]]</nowiki>. You make new categories just by doing <nowiki>[[Category:Whatever]]</nowiki> and then clicking on the link to edit it like any other page. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 14:03, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ----<br /> <br /> Thanks for the welcome! I've really enjoyed participating in WikiFur thus far, and I'm glad my contributions have been useful. I hope to continue to be an active participant in this community effort, and I think it's really going to be a success. ^_^ --[[User:Flynn|Flynn]] 03:34, 10 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ----<br /> <br /> No problem! Great, great project. I'll be contributing more as time allows and directing others to it as well. The pro-vanity page policy is an excellent idea. --[[User:Osfer|Osfer]]<br /> <br /> == Redirect ==<br /> <br /> How does one create a redirect? Ie, to redirect "Camp Feral" to Feral? --{{UT|Tafyrn}}<br /> <br /> :Just type <nowiki>#REDIRECT [[Feral]]</nowiki> on [[Camp Feral]]. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 03:49, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Cleanup ==<br /> <br /> GreenReaper: thanks for your efforts in cleaning up newly created entries. I've learned a great deal from comparing my original entries to the improved versions! --[[User:Osfer|Osfer]]<br /> <br /> :No problem! --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 05:43, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Is there already a 'beginner's guide' page available? If not I'd be happy to start work on it. Berhaps it could be linked to from the main page? --[[User:Osfer|Osfer]]<br /> <br /> :::There's the [[Help:Contents|help]] page, which is linked to on the side and on WikiFur Central. It also links to the [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Contents guide on Meta]. If you think you can improve the help page, go right ahead! --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 05:48, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Have you considered instating a 'ranking' system to indicate users who have contributed a great deal? I'm not trolling for rewards, myself, but as a New Mediast I'm rather interested in how you'd prefer to navigate between the offering of a reward for contribution and preventing people from performing useless edits and contributions to gain a higher ranking. Ranking systems are fairly common in forums and seem to manage themselves, there. --[[User:Osfer|Osfer]]<br /> <br /> :::There are ways to measure people's contributions, if so desired. You can look at a user's contributions page, which is a link in the toolbox to the left when a user's page or talk page is selected. You can also see what other people have said on a person's user talk pages, or look at the [http://www.wikicities.com/wikistats/EN/TablesWikipediaFURRY.htm#wikipedians user section] of the [[Project:About#Statistics|statistics]] to get a rough idea of where they stand contribution-wise.<br /> <br /> :::In the end, though, for the people we really want to attract, contribution is its own reward. That's not to say people can't be ''proud'' of their contributions, of course, but obsessing over it is probably unhealthy. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 06:06, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == NPOV / Vanity Pages ==<br /> <br /> You know, if you're aiming for NPOV, you might want to consider instituting a rule about, uh, not making articles about yourself. They tend to be one-sided at best, and blatant advertisments at worst. And the authors tend to react rather badly to other people editing 'their' writeup.<br /> <br /> But then again, [http://www.everything2.com/ E2] is not NPOV and is also quite awesome. --[[User:Xax|Xax]] 19:02, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :We're not, exactly. I accept that most articles about users are going to be positive. I encourage that, actually, as it's the negative ones that seem to cause trouble. See [http://www.livejournal.com/community/wikifur/2177.html?thread=6017 this discussion] for more on my views about vanity pages, and less important pages in general. Basically, what's appropriate for Wikipedia may not be appropriate for us. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 19:12, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Oh don't worry, it was just a joke. I wouldn't actually go along with something like that, since I'd be banned pretty quickly, I'm sure. :><br /> <br /> == Blue Forest enties ==<br /> <br /> Hi! I just wanted to thank you for putting work into helping out with entries related to Blue Forest. I was plesantly surprised to see these here! I'm in the process of adding and expanding on some of them, now, and I certainly welcome any tweaking that you think needs to be done. -[[User:K.M. Hirosaki|K.M. Hirosaki]] 04:47, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :You're welcome! You obviously have a few loyal fans who cared enough to start them. I'll be watching, but your pages seem pretty good so far. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 04:55, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Is it possible to have both me redirect page "Alex Vance" and my full entry "Osfer" listd under People and Writers, or is this bad form? Considering how many furs alternately use their full name or their handle on-line, I suspect such a construction may be of use to more people.<br /> <br /> Also, have you considered disallowing anonymous edits? The extra effort of registering might be a slight deterrent to casual vandals. --[[User:Osfer|Osfer]]<br /> <br /> :It can be done, but wither it is or not depends on how much longer the trolls persist in causing trouble and grief in their malicious edits. --[[User:Markus|Markus]] 13:16, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == kekeke goon rush ==<br /> <br /> At this point I would just suggest forbidding anon edits and new account creation for a few hours (if you can do that) --[[User:Xax|Xax]] 18:14, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> ==OMG whut admin?==<br /> No, I certainly don't mind keeping an eye on the RC for vandalism for the time being. The whole "goon rush" issue is what helped me find out about this wiki :) [[User:MelSkunk|MelSkunk]] 19:21, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Article naming convention proposal ==<br /> <br /> When I saw [[Serval]] come up as an article, I knew we were going to have an issue. As I'm sure you're aware, some of the older fur fans have gone by animal names as fan names. I propose that we have a <nowiki>[[Category:Species]]</nowiki> with names of things that are animals, as opposed to characters, appended with Serval (species) or Panther (species) or Fox (species), sort of like how WP is has (film) and such.<br /> What do you think? [[User:MelSkunk|MelSkunk]] 05:14, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :It's a good idea. Go for it! --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 05:31, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == About "admin" status. ==<br /> <br /> I feel kind of weird for now noticing this, and even weirder for bringing it up, but I'll throw this out there anyway:<br /> <br /> WikiFur:Administrators lists me as an admin, and you've also done it on the community LiveJournal which proves that it wasn't just a misclick or anything like that, but after looking up what I'd be able to do with this status, I notice that... well, none of it's there. :) I confirmed this by looking at the literal special page and notice that, while Osfer's name is on there, mine isn't.<br /> <br /> Not harping on you to get '''right on this''' so I can go willy nilly on this here Internet Wikipedia machine, because that would be stupid, but can you double-check to see if you did add me to the actual admin database? Thanks. -- [[User:Verix|Verix]] 06:17, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : *scratches head* - I certainly ''thought'' I put you in there . . . I was on wireless, though, so maybe it didn't take . I was in a bit of a rush adding new admins at the time, so I didn't check. Sorry! Should work now. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 06:21, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: And there it is in the log. Thank you for trusting me enough to give me this ability. :) -- [[User:Verix|Verix]] 06:22, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ----<br /> <br /> Abuh? Well, that was unexpected! Thanks - I'll try to help out as best I can. --[[User:DuncanDaHusky|Duncan da Husky]] 17:18, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :You came recommended - besides, you already ''have'' been helping, this just lets you help more. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 17:28, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==More stylistic suggestions==<br /> <br /> Lord forbid, got another bother:<br /> We're getting so many dang micro articles, I think a stub-expansion template for the front might be a good idea.<br /> I've modified one of the tables to be like that in my Userpage, if you'd like to see what it looks like. I'm just excessivly reluctant to make a template without authorization, and even less wanting to add new things to the front page :) -- [[User:MelSkunk|MelSkunk]] 03:04, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :This isn't Wikipedia - you won't get flamed for making a template you think will be useful, or for editing the main page. Be bold! :-)<br /> <br /> :The only suggestion I would make is removing the last entry and the - before it as that pushes it over one line for 1024x786 maximised (I've been trying to keep all the main templates that size). Other than that, it looks good to go. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 03:07, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I shall go forth fluffily, then! -- [[User:MelSkunk|MelSkunk]] 03:12, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Languages ==<br /> I had just one question re this wiki: Are there any guidelines for creating furry articles not in English? Say, [[Chakat/ia]] or [[Chakat/ru]] or whatnot? I'm a member of Furrys Pro Interlingua, as well as a general-purpose language geekskunk, and I'm just curious. [[User:Almafeta|Almafeta]] 13:18, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The "best" way to do it would be to use something like ru.furry.wikicities.com, edit pages on there, and then use translation tags to link to them, as in Wikipedia. We do not have versions of WikiFur in other langauges at this time. If this is something you'd like to help coordinate (it will need at least one person to maintain each language), let me know what languages you'd like it set up for and I can get things set up with the Wikicities staff.<br /> <br /> :If you're not up to doing this at this time, as a ''temporary'' measure, what you suggest might work but only if you add a category to each plage, like <nowiki>[[Category:Spanish articles]]</nowiki>, and maybe put a template in the main page to indicate that there is a translation for it (you could do one template that would work for the whole page. That way we can find them to move them later on! :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 13:38, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Special bar==<br /> Also, I've created a special bar for the front page [[Template:WikiFur Central/Special|here]]. Go ahead and add it if you think it's a good idea ^^; [[User:Almafeta|Almafeta]] 08:59, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Seems a perfectly reasonable use of space. Added! --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 13:54, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Furry MUCK Logo ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for the welcome. :) I moved the logo at [[User:Markus|Markus]]'s request since he was having trouble with the TOC not liking where it was. It was either a case of the logo staying where it was but being made an image, or moving it to where the &lt;pre&gt;'ed text wouldn't damage the layout. -[[User:Nidonocu|Nidonocu]] 14:14, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Aha! I have a third option - move the TOC to the section below. You can use <nowiki>__TOC__</nowiki> to specify TOC positioning (or <nowiki>__NOTOC__</nowiki> to remove it entirely, but we need it here :-). Will see if I can figure out a good way to do that. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 14:34, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Mmm.. true the TOC can be moved but if the logo is really wanted at the top and understandibly it is the convention to have it there, pahapse taking a screencap of the wording and having a nice logo image would be better? I'll provide the image if you wish though of course, I can't edit the article currently. While I'm here, would it be ok for me to mention a few things we are missing? Um.. for one.. a deletion policy! o.O I've seen a few articles that seem to have little to do with anything furry ([[Zline]] for example). We could also do with setting up our own Manual of Style for how a biography page, a species page or term page should be laid out for example. I have er.. a -little- exprience with MediaWiki you could say. ;) I spent a good few weeks teaching myself the system and actually have a wiki of my own I'm just.. lacking the community to get it going currently. x.x Despite e-mail pokes to the people who have signed up to it. [http://nidonocu.technoweyr.co.uk/ewiki/index.php/Main_Page EpicWiki] which is a fictional writing wiki, as you can see I spent ages making it look good and now.. no support. :/ And my first wiki [http://nidonocu.technoweyr.co.uk/wiki/ here] which was my test and learning how to use it. It was going to be for a friend's project but that's on hiatus now. What I'm ''proud'' of though on that wiki is the extensive [http://nidonocu.technoweyr.co.uk/wiki/index.php?title=Help:Contents help system] I was planning after hating the mine field that is MetaWiki's. You can see from the pages I did write that I might know.. a -little- wiki syntax. ;) [http://nidonocu.technoweyr.co.uk/wiki/index.php?title=Help:Allowed_HTML] [http://nidonocu.technoweyr.co.uk/wiki/index.php?title=Help:Exploring_an_article] *squeeks* Oh seems you've already fixed it so.. never mind. o.O Hope you take some of my thoughts onboard though. o.o -[[User:Nidonocu|Nidonocu]] - [[User talk:Nidonocu|talk]] [[Image:Trans 168.png|16px|Nidonocu]] 14:59, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Policies ==<br /> <br /> I agree we need to set up some policies - deletion, featuring and the like. Right now we are trying to be as inclusive as possible becuase there's really no harm in having articles that are only mildly related to furry topics, but it's something we'll probably have to look at going forward. For now, don't be too worried if you see something that doesn't seem to fit with the wiki's purpose - we can always do a cleanup later. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 15:54, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> ::Might I suggest creating a 'dubious' template then to help us flag articles that need writers to find more proof of their 'furryness' and at a later date, give us a handyway of tracking down things to go on deletion lists. ;> The closest wikipedia tag I'd say would be [[Wikipedia:Template:Unencyclopedic]], to us of course, anything not furry related is Unencyclopedic. <br /> <br /> :::That is a big "of course". I would be wary about limiting the scope of the wiki in that respect. Topics that are only tangentially furry may still be of interest to WikiFur readers and it might well be that there is stuff that can be said about the topic that relates to the furry fandom, and which would not be accepted in the "right" place. Obviously there are cases where links should be converted into links to Wikipedia and the like, but that is not always the case.<br /> <br /> ::Likewise, we could do with getting [[Wikipedia:Template:Advert]] for pages which are clearly adverts for furry sites and need turning in to articles. Infact.. I was about to list a few more but realised we could do with importing quite a few of the templates. Would you mind if I did so and made changes where needed? I'll also make some wikifur: namespace pages if needed with info and so on about them and how to use. -[[User:Nidonocu|Nidonocu]] - [[User talk:Nidonocu|talk]] [[Image:Trans 168.png|16px|Nidonocu]] 16:04, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Go ahead - be bold! But also, be somewhat wary that you do not bite newcommers by telling them that their contributions are not wanted. If you can see a way to expand the from (say) a stub about an unrelated technology to an article about how the technology is used in the furry community, with links to articles in more depth over on (say) Wikipedia, then that would be more appropriate.<br /> <br /> :::Note that you can theoretically use wikicities templates with this method: <nowiki>{{Wikicities:Advert}}</nowiki>. However, if you have time I would import the template as there have been problems with this - most notably it is case-sensitive!<br /> <br /> :::I disagree with the use of the Unencyclpediaic template because I think it imposes strong an opinion on something that ''is'' a matter of opinion - there's been [[Wikipedia:Template_talk:Unencyclopedic|a lot of discussion]] about it. The Advert one sounds fine, because it is a more obvious statement about the quality of an article. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 16:22, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Very well, I'll get going and take on what you've said. :) More fun than staring at Recent Changes. o.O I'll send some links your way when I've made a few up. -[[User:Nidonocu|Nidonocu]] - [[User talk:Nidonocu|talk]] [[Image:Trans 168.png|16px|Nidonocu]] 16:34, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Stylebook ==<br /> <br /> No problem. Is there a stylebook I need to refer to? I see that there have been style changes to the page and I'd rather save somefur else the work if I can...--[[User:Fferret|Fferret]] 19:23, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :To be honest, there isn't one right now - WikiFur only really took off last saturday, and it's been such a rush that we've been figuring them out as we go along. The best guide right now is to extrapolate from existing pages and from Wikipedia. If you do things so that they look the same as similar pages, at least it's consistent. Of course, if you think you have a better way of doing it, you could change them all. Be bold! :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 19:10, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Person pages vs. Personal pages ==<br /> <br /> Since this is going unanswered in the Category talk:People section, I'm going to take this here. :><br /> <br /> I'd like to take initiative to start removing information that's too personal-- such as the likes and dislikes of a person, who they're friends with-- in order to make the people pages sound more informational and less like the person is advertising themselves to other possible friends or love interests. Not saying that these are bad, but inapropriate for something like this wiki, which is supposed to be an online encyclopedia.<br /> <br /> Thoughts? --[[User:Verix|Verix]] 19:35, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Answered on [[Category talk:People]]. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 19:46, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Linking to a term in Wikipedia, but not in Wikifur ==<br /> <br /> May I ask how one would make a link reference to a term that, while not defined in Wikifur, and not directly furry related, is defined in Wikipedia? --{{UT|Seamora}}</div>

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<p>Seamora: </p> <hr /> <div>I can't say anything about if I'll be adding things regularly, but I will when I have time/ideas. As for nationstates, its neat to encounter another head of state no? I run The Union of Tinis which is part of the Furry Federation.<br /> <br /> ----<br /> Hi. Thanks for the welcome. ^^; This seems to be a confusing topic in my mind as far as sorting, but what would "StarFox" groups like RPG's belong to? Certainly the one I know about so far does not use a MU*, but rather IRC and has it's own Wiki even. --[[User:Markus|Markus]] 09:48, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Hmm. Not sure myself. Maybe you should make a new category for roleplaying groups, and then categorize that category page to <nowiki>[[Category:Community]]</nowiki>. You make new categories just by doing <nowiki>[[Category:Whatever]]</nowiki> and then clicking on the link to edit it like any other page. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 14:03, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ----<br /> <br /> Thanks for the welcome! I've really enjoyed participating in WikiFur thus far, and I'm glad my contributions have been useful. I hope to continue to be an active participant in this community effort, and I think it's really going to be a success. ^_^ --[[User:Flynn|Flynn]] 03:34, 10 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ----<br /> <br /> No problem! Great, great project. I'll be contributing more as time allows and directing others to it as well. The pro-vanity page policy is an excellent idea. --[[User:Osfer|Osfer]]<br /> <br /> == Redirect ==<br /> <br /> How does one create a redirect? Ie, to redirect "Camp Feral" to Feral? --{{UT|Tafyrn}}<br /> <br /> :Just type <nowiki>#REDIRECT [[Feral]]</nowiki> on [[Camp Feral]]. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 03:49, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Cleanup ==<br /> <br /> GreenReaper: thanks for your efforts in cleaning up newly created entries. I've learned a great deal from comparing my original entries to the improved versions! --[[User:Osfer|Osfer]]<br /> <br /> :No problem! --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 05:43, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Is there already a 'beginner's guide' page available? If not I'd be happy to start work on it. Berhaps it could be linked to from the main page? --[[User:Osfer|Osfer]]<br /> <br /> :::There's the [[Help:Contents|help]] page, which is linked to on the side and on WikiFur Central. It also links to the [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Contents guide on Meta]. If you think you can improve the help page, go right ahead! --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 05:48, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Have you considered instating a 'ranking' system to indicate users who have contributed a great deal? I'm not trolling for rewards, myself, but as a New Mediast I'm rather interested in how you'd prefer to navigate between the offering of a reward for contribution and preventing people from performing useless edits and contributions to gain a higher ranking. Ranking systems are fairly common in forums and seem to manage themselves, there. --[[User:Osfer|Osfer]]<br /> <br /> :::There are ways to measure people's contributions, if so desired. You can look at a user's contributions page, which is a link in the toolbox to the left when a user's page or talk page is selected. You can also see what other people have said on a person's user talk pages, or look at the [http://www.wikicities.com/wikistats/EN/TablesWikipediaFURRY.htm#wikipedians user section] of the [[Project:About#Statistics|statistics]] to get a rough idea of where they stand contribution-wise.<br /> <br /> :::In the end, though, for the people we really want to attract, contribution is its own reward. That's not to say people can't be ''proud'' of their contributions, of course, but obsessing over it is probably unhealthy. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 06:06, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == NPOV / Vanity Pages ==<br /> <br /> You know, if you're aiming for NPOV, you might want to consider instituting a rule about, uh, not making articles about yourself. They tend to be one-sided at best, and blatant advertisments at worst. And the authors tend to react rather badly to other people editing 'their' writeup.<br /> <br /> But then again, [http://www.everything2.com/ E2] is not NPOV and is also quite awesome. --[[User:Xax|Xax]] 19:02, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :We're not, exactly. I accept that most articles about users are going to be positive. I encourage that, actually, as it's the negative ones that seem to cause trouble. See [http://www.livejournal.com/community/wikifur/2177.html?thread=6017 this discussion] for more on my views about vanity pages, and less important pages in general. Basically, what's appropriate for Wikipedia may not be appropriate for us. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 19:12, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Oh don't worry, it was just a joke. I wouldn't actually go along with something like that, since I'd be banned pretty quickly, I'm sure. :><br /> <br /> == Blue Forest enties ==<br /> <br /> Hi! I just wanted to thank you for putting work into helping out with entries related to Blue Forest. I was plesantly surprised to see these here! I'm in the process of adding and expanding on some of them, now, and I certainly welcome any tweaking that you think needs to be done. -[[User:K.M. Hirosaki|K.M. Hirosaki]] 04:47, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :You're welcome! You obviously have a few loyal fans who cared enough to start them. I'll be watching, but your pages seem pretty good so far. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 04:55, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Is it possible to have both me redirect page "Alex Vance" and my full entry "Osfer" listd under People and Writers, or is this bad form? Considering how many furs alternately use their full name or their handle on-line, I suspect such a construction may be of use to more people.<br /> <br /> Also, have you considered disallowing anonymous edits? The extra effort of registering might be a slight deterrent to casual vandals. --[[User:Osfer|Osfer]]<br /> <br /> :It can be done, but wither it is or not depends on how much longer the trolls persist in causing trouble and grief in their malicious edits. --[[User:Markus|Markus]] 13:16, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == kekeke goon rush ==<br /> <br /> At this point I would just suggest forbidding anon edits and new account creation for a few hours (if you can do that) --[[User:Xax|Xax]] 18:14, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> ==OMG whut admin?==<br /> No, I certainly don't mind keeping an eye on the RC for vandalism for the time being. The whole "goon rush" issue is what helped me find out about this wiki :) [[User:MelSkunk|MelSkunk]] 19:21, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Article naming convention proposal ==<br /> <br /> When I saw [[Serval]] come up as an article, I knew we were going to have an issue. As I'm sure you're aware, some of the older fur fans have gone by animal names as fan names. I propose that we have a <nowiki>[[Category:Species]]</nowiki> with names of things that are animals, as opposed to characters, appended with Serval (species) or Panther (species) or Fox (species), sort of like how WP is has (film) and such.<br /> What do you think? [[User:MelSkunk|MelSkunk]] 05:14, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :It's a good idea. Go for it! --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 05:31, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == About "admin" status. ==<br /> <br /> I feel kind of weird for now noticing this, and even weirder for bringing it up, but I'll throw this out there anyway:<br /> <br /> WikiFur:Administrators lists me as an admin, and you've also done it on the community LiveJournal which proves that it wasn't just a misclick or anything like that, but after looking up what I'd be able to do with this status, I notice that... well, none of it's there. :) I confirmed this by looking at the literal special page and notice that, while Osfer's name is on there, mine isn't.<br /> <br /> Not harping on you to get '''right on this''' so I can go willy nilly on this here Internet Wikipedia machine, because that would be stupid, but can you double-check to see if you did add me to the actual admin database? Thanks. -- [[User:Verix|Verix]] 06:17, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : *scratches head* - I certainly ''thought'' I put you in there . . . I was on wireless, though, so maybe it didn't take . I was in a bit of a rush adding new admins at the time, so I didn't check. Sorry! Should work now. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 06:21, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: And there it is in the log. Thank you for trusting me enough to give me this ability. :) -- [[User:Verix|Verix]] 06:22, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ----<br /> <br /> Abuh? Well, that was unexpected! Thanks - I'll try to help out as best I can. --[[User:DuncanDaHusky|Duncan da Husky]] 17:18, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :You came recommended - besides, you already ''have'' been helping, this just lets you help more. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 17:28, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==More stylistic suggestions==<br /> <br /> Lord forbid, got another bother:<br /> We're getting so many dang micro articles, I think a stub-expansion template for the front might be a good idea.<br /> I've modified one of the tables to be like that in my Userpage, if you'd like to see what it looks like. I'm just excessivly reluctant to make a template without authorization, and even less wanting to add new things to the front page :) -- [[User:MelSkunk|MelSkunk]] 03:04, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :This isn't Wikipedia - you won't get flamed for making a template you think will be useful, or for editing the main page. Be bold! :-)<br /> <br /> :The only suggestion I would make is removing the last entry and the - before it as that pushes it over one line for 1024x786 maximised (I've been trying to keep all the main templates that size). Other than that, it looks good to go. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 03:07, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I shall go forth fluffily, then! -- [[User:MelSkunk|MelSkunk]] 03:12, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Languages ==<br /> I had just one question re this wiki: Are there any guidelines for creating furry articles not in English? Say, [[Chakat/ia]] or [[Chakat/ru]] or whatnot? I'm a member of Furrys Pro Interlingua, as well as a general-purpose language geekskunk, and I'm just curious. [[User:Almafeta|Almafeta]] 13:18, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The "best" way to do it would be to use something like ru.furry.wikicities.com, edit pages on there, and then use translation tags to link to them, as in Wikipedia. We do not have versions of WikiFur in other langauges at this time. If this is something you'd like to help coordinate (it will need at least one person to maintain each language), let me know what languages you'd like it set up for and I can get things set up with the Wikicities staff.<br /> <br /> :If you're not up to doing this at this time, as a ''temporary'' measure, what you suggest might work but only if you add a category to each plage, like <nowiki>[[Category:Spanish articles]]</nowiki>, and maybe put a template in the main page to indicate that there is a translation for it (you could do one template that would work for the whole page. That way we can find them to move them later on! :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 13:38, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Special bar==<br /> Also, I've created a special bar for the front page [[Template:WikiFur Central/Special|here]]. Go ahead and add it if you think it's a good idea ^^; [[User:Almafeta|Almafeta]] 08:59, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Seems a perfectly reasonable use of space. Added! --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 13:54, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Furry MUCK Logo ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for the welcome. :) I moved the logo at [[User:Markus|Markus]]'s request since he was having trouble with the TOC not liking where it was. It was either a case of the logo staying where it was but being made an image, or moving it to where the &lt;pre&gt;'ed text wouldn't damage the layout. -[[User:Nidonocu|Nidonocu]] 14:14, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Aha! I have a third option - move the TOC to the section below. You can use <nowiki>__TOC__</nowiki> to specify TOC positioning (or <nowiki>__NOTOC__</nowiki> to remove it entirely, but we need it here :-). Will see if I can figure out a good way to do that. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 14:34, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Mmm.. true the TOC can be moved but if the logo is really wanted at the top and understandibly it is the convention to have it there, pahapse taking a screencap of the wording and having a nice logo image would be better? I'll provide the image if you wish though of course, I can't edit the article currently. While I'm here, would it be ok for me to mention a few things we are missing? Um.. for one.. a deletion policy! o.O I've seen a few articles that seem to have little to do with anything furry ([[Zline]] for example). We could also do with setting up our own Manual of Style for how a biography page, a species page or term page should be laid out for example. I have er.. a -little- exprience with MediaWiki you could say. ;) I spent a good few weeks teaching myself the system and actually have a wiki of my own I'm just.. lacking the community to get it going currently. x.x Despite e-mail pokes to the people who have signed up to it. [http://nidonocu.technoweyr.co.uk/ewiki/index.php/Main_Page EpicWiki] which is a fictional writing wiki, as you can see I spent ages making it look good and now.. no support. :/ And my first wiki [http://nidonocu.technoweyr.co.uk/wiki/ here] which was my test and learning how to use it. It was going to be for a friend's project but that's on hiatus now. What I'm ''proud'' of though on that wiki is the extensive [http://nidonocu.technoweyr.co.uk/wiki/index.php?title=Help:Contents help system] I was planning after hating the mine field that is MetaWiki's. You can see from the pages I did write that I might know.. a -little- wiki syntax. ;) [http://nidonocu.technoweyr.co.uk/wiki/index.php?title=Help:Allowed_HTML] [http://nidonocu.technoweyr.co.uk/wiki/index.php?title=Help:Exploring_an_article] *squeeks* Oh seems you've already fixed it so.. never mind. o.O Hope you take some of my thoughts onboard though. o.o -[[User:Nidonocu|Nidonocu]] - [[User talk:Nidonocu|talk]] [[Image:Trans 168.png|16px|Nidonocu]] 14:59, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Policies ==<br /> <br /> I agree we need to set up some policies - deletion, featuring and the like. Right now we are trying to be as inclusive as possible becuase there's really no harm in having articles that are only mildly related to furry topics, but it's something we'll probably have to look at going forward. For now, don't be too worried if you see something that doesn't seem to fit with the wiki's purpose - we can always do a cleanup later. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 15:54, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> ::Might I suggest creating a 'dubious' template then to help us flag articles that need writers to find more proof of their 'furryness' and at a later date, give us a handyway of tracking down things to go on deletion lists. ;> The closest wikipedia tag I'd say would be [[Wikipedia:Template:Unencyclopedic]], to us of course, anything not furry related is Unencyclopedic. <br /> <br /> :::That is a big "of course". I would be wary about limiting the scope of the wiki in that respect. Topics that are only tangentially furry may still be of interest to WikiFur readers and it might well be that there is stuff that can be said about the topic that relates to the furry fandom, and which would not be accepted in the "right" place. Obviously there are cases where links should be converted into links to Wikipedia and the like, but that is not always the case.<br /> <br /> ::Likewise, we could do with getting [[Wikipedia:Template:Advert]] for pages which are clearly adverts for furry sites and need turning in to articles. Infact.. I was about to list a few more but realised we could do with importing quite a few of the templates. Would you mind if I did so and made changes where needed? I'll also make some wikifur: namespace pages if needed with info and so on about them and how to use. -[[User:Nidonocu|Nidonocu]] - [[User talk:Nidonocu|talk]] [[Image:Trans 168.png|16px|Nidonocu]] 16:04, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Go ahead - be bold! But also, be somewhat wary that you do not bite newcommers by telling them that their contributions are not wanted. If you can see a way to expand the from (say) a stub about an unrelated technology to an article about how the technology is used in the furry community, with links to articles in more depth over on (say) Wikipedia, then that would be more appropriate.<br /> <br /> :::Note that you can theoretically use wikicities templates with this method: <nowiki>{{Wikicities:Advert}}</nowiki>. However, if you have time I would import the template as there have been problems with this - most notably it is case-sensitive!<br /> <br /> :::I disagree with the use of the Unencyclpediaic template because I think it imposes strong an opinion on something that ''is'' a matter of opinion - there's been [[Wikipedia:Template_talk:Unencyclopedic|a lot of discussion]] about it. The Advert one sounds fine, because it is a more obvious statement about the quality of an article. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 16:22, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Very well, I'll get going and take on what you've said. :) More fun than staring at Recent Changes. o.O I'll send some links your way when I've made a few up. -[[User:Nidonocu|Nidonocu]] - [[User talk:Nidonocu|talk]] [[Image:Trans 168.png|16px|Nidonocu]] 16:34, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Stylebook ==<br /> <br /> No problem. Is there a stylebook I need to refer to? I see that there have been style changes to the page and I'd rather save somefur else the work if I can...--[[User:Fferret|Fferret]] 19:23, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :To be honest, there isn't one right now - WikiFur only really took off last saturday, and it's been such a rush that we've been figuring them out as we go along. The best guide right now is to extrapolate from existing pages and from Wikipedia. If you do things so that they look the same as similar pages, at least it's consistent. Of course, if you think you have a better way of doing it, you could change them all. Be bold! :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 19:10, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Person pages vs. Personal pages ==<br /> <br /> Since this is going unanswered in the Category talk:People section, I'm going to take this here. :><br /> <br /> I'd like to take initiative to start removing information that's too personal-- such as the likes and dislikes of a person, who they're friends with-- in order to make the people pages sound more informational and less like the person is advertising themselves to other possible friends or love interests. Not saying that these are bad, but inapropriate for something like this wiki, which is supposed to be an online encyclopedia.<br /> <br /> Thoughts? --[[User:Verix|Verix]] 19:35, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Answered on [[Category talk:People]]. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 19:46, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Linking to a term in Wikipedia, but not in Wikifur ==<br /> <br /> May I ask how one would make a link or reference to a term that, while not defined in Wikifur, and not directly furry related, is defined in Wikipedia? --{{UT|Seamora}}</div>

Seamora //en.wikifur.com/wiki/User_talk:GreenReaper User talk:GreenReaper 2005-08-18T20:26:28Z

<p>Seamora: </p> <hr /> <div>I can't say anything about if I'll be adding things regularly, but I will when I have time/ideas. As for nationstates, its neat to encounter another head of state no? I run The Union of Tinis which is part of the Furry Federation.<br /> <br /> ----<br /> Hi. Thanks for the welcome. ^^; This seems to be a confusing topic in my mind as far as sorting, but what would "StarFox" groups like RPG's belong to? Certainly the one I know about so far does not use a MU*, but rather IRC and has it's own Wiki even. --[[User:Markus|Markus]] 09:48, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Hmm. Not sure myself. Maybe you should make a new category for roleplaying groups, and then categorize that category page to <nowiki>[[Category:Community]]</nowiki>. You make new categories just by doing <nowiki>[[Category:Whatever]]</nowiki> and then clicking on the link to edit it like any other page. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 14:03, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ----<br /> <br /> Thanks for the welcome! I've really enjoyed participating in WikiFur thus far, and I'm glad my contributions have been useful. I hope to continue to be an active participant in this community effort, and I think it's really going to be a success. ^_^ --[[User:Flynn|Flynn]] 03:34, 10 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ----<br /> <br /> No problem! Great, great project. I'll be contributing more as time allows and directing others to it as well. The pro-vanity page policy is an excellent idea. --[[User:Osfer|Osfer]]<br /> <br /> == Redirect ==<br /> <br /> How does one create a redirect? Ie, to redirect "Camp Feral" to Feral? --{{UT|Tafyrn}}<br /> <br /> :Just type <nowiki>#REDIRECT [[Feral]]</nowiki> on [[Camp Feral]]. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 03:49, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Cleanup ==<br /> <br /> GreenReaper: thanks for your efforts in cleaning up newly created entries. I've learned a great deal from comparing my original entries to the improved versions! --[[User:Osfer|Osfer]]<br /> <br /> :No problem! --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 05:43, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Is there already a 'beginner's guide' page available? If not I'd be happy to start work on it. Berhaps it could be linked to from the main page? --[[User:Osfer|Osfer]]<br /> <br /> :::There's the [[Help:Contents|help]] page, which is linked to on the side and on WikiFur Central. It also links to the [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Contents guide on Meta]. If you think you can improve the help page, go right ahead! --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 05:48, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Have you considered instating a 'ranking' system to indicate users who have contributed a great deal? I'm not trolling for rewards, myself, but as a New Mediast I'm rather interested in how you'd prefer to navigate between the offering of a reward for contribution and preventing people from performing useless edits and contributions to gain a higher ranking. Ranking systems are fairly common in forums and seem to manage themselves, there. --[[User:Osfer|Osfer]]<br /> <br /> :::There are ways to measure people's contributions, if so desired. You can look at a user's contributions page, which is a link in the toolbox to the left when a user's page or talk page is selected. You can also see what other people have said on a person's user talk pages, or look at the [http://www.wikicities.com/wikistats/EN/TablesWikipediaFURRY.htm#wikipedians user section] of the [[Project:About#Statistics|statistics]] to get a rough idea of where they stand contribution-wise.<br /> <br /> :::In the end, though, for the people we really want to attract, contribution is its own reward. That's not to say people can't be ''proud'' of their contributions, of course, but obsessing over it is probably unhealthy. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 06:06, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == NPOV / Vanity Pages ==<br /> <br /> You know, if you're aiming for NPOV, you might want to consider instituting a rule about, uh, not making articles about yourself. They tend to be one-sided at best, and blatant advertisments at worst. And the authors tend to react rather badly to other people editing 'their' writeup.<br /> <br /> But then again, [http://www.everything2.com/ E2] is not NPOV and is also quite awesome. --[[User:Xax|Xax]] 19:02, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :We're not, exactly. I accept that most articles about users are going to be positive. I encourage that, actually, as it's the negative ones that seem to cause trouble. See [http://www.livejournal.com/community/wikifur/2177.html?thread=6017 this discussion] for more on my views about vanity pages, and less important pages in general. Basically, what's appropriate for Wikipedia may not be appropriate for us. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 19:12, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Oh don't worry, it was just a joke. I wouldn't actually go along with something like that, since I'd be banned pretty quickly, I'm sure. :><br /> <br /> == Blue Forest enties ==<br /> <br /> Hi! I just wanted to thank you for putting work into helping out with entries related to Blue Forest. I was plesantly surprised to see these here! I'm in the process of adding and expanding on some of them, now, and I certainly welcome any tweaking that you think needs to be done. -[[User:K.M. Hirosaki|K.M. Hirosaki]] 04:47, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :You're welcome! You obviously have a few loyal fans who cared enough to start them. I'll be watching, but your pages seem pretty good so far. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 04:55, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Is it possible to have both me redirect page "Alex Vance" and my full entry "Osfer" listd under People and Writers, or is this bad form? Considering how many furs alternately use their full name or their handle on-line, I suspect such a construction may be of use to more people.<br /> <br /> Also, have you considered disallowing anonymous edits? The extra effort of registering might be a slight deterrent to casual vandals. --[[User:Osfer|Osfer]]<br /> <br /> :It can be done, but wither it is or not depends on how much longer the trolls persist in causing trouble and grief in their malicious edits. --[[User:Markus|Markus]] 13:16, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == kekeke goon rush ==<br /> <br /> At this point I would just suggest forbidding anon edits and new account creation for a few hours (if you can do that) --[[User:Xax|Xax]] 18:14, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> ==OMG whut admin?==<br /> No, I certainly don't mind keeping an eye on the RC for vandalism for the time being. The whole "goon rush" issue is what helped me find out about this wiki :) [[User:MelSkunk|MelSkunk]] 19:21, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Article naming convention proposal ==<br /> <br /> When I saw [[Serval]] come up as an article, I knew we were going to have an issue. As I'm sure you're aware, some of the older fur fans have gone by animal names as fan names. I propose that we have a <nowiki>[[Category:Species]]</nowiki> with names of things that are animals, as opposed to characters, appended with Serval (species) or Panther (species) or Fox (species), sort of like how WP is has (film) and such.<br /> What do you think? [[User:MelSkunk|MelSkunk]] 05:14, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :It's a good idea. Go for it! --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 05:31, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == About "admin" status. ==<br /> <br /> I feel kind of weird for now noticing this, and even weirder for bringing it up, but I'll throw this out there anyway:<br /> <br /> WikiFur:Administrators lists me as an admin, and you've also done it on the community LiveJournal which proves that it wasn't just a misclick or anything like that, but after looking up what I'd be able to do with this status, I notice that... well, none of it's there. :) I confirmed this by looking at the literal special page and notice that, while Osfer's name is on there, mine isn't.<br /> <br /> Not harping on you to get '''right on this''' so I can go willy nilly on this here Internet Wikipedia machine, because that would be stupid, but can you double-check to see if you did add me to the actual admin database? Thanks. -- [[User:Verix|Verix]] 06:17, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : *scratches head* - I certainly ''thought'' I put you in there . . . I was on wireless, though, so maybe it didn't take . I was in a bit of a rush adding new admins at the time, so I didn't check. Sorry! Should work now. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 06:21, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: And there it is in the log. Thank you for trusting me enough to give me this ability. :) -- [[User:Verix|Verix]] 06:22, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ----<br /> <br /> Abuh? Well, that was unexpected! Thanks - I'll try to help out as best I can. --[[User:DuncanDaHusky|Duncan da Husky]] 17:18, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :You came recommended - besides, you already ''have'' been helping, this just lets you help more. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 17:28, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==More stylistic suggestions==<br /> <br /> Lord forbid, got another bother:<br /> We're getting so many dang micro articles, I think a stub-expansion template for the front might be a good idea.<br /> I've modified one of the tables to be like that in my Userpage, if you'd like to see what it looks like. I'm just excessivly reluctant to make a template without authorization, and even less wanting to add new things to the front page :) -- [[User:MelSkunk|MelSkunk]] 03:04, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :This isn't Wikipedia - you won't get flamed for making a template you think will be useful, or for editing the main page. Be bold! :-)<br /> <br /> :The only suggestion I would make is removing the last entry and the - before it as that pushes it over one line for 1024x786 maximised (I've been trying to keep all the main templates that size). Other than that, it looks good to go. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 03:07, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I shall go forth fluffily, then! -- [[User:MelSkunk|MelSkunk]] 03:12, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Languages ==<br /> I had just one question re this wiki: Are there any guidelines for creating furry articles not in English? Say, [[Chakat/ia]] or [[Chakat/ru]] or whatnot? I'm a member of Furrys Pro Interlingua, as well as a general-purpose language geekskunk, and I'm just curious. [[User:Almafeta|Almafeta]] 13:18, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The "best" way to do it would be to use something like ru.furry.wikicities.com, edit pages on there, and then use translation tags to link to them, as in Wikipedia. We do not have versions of WikiFur in other langauges at this time. If this is something you'd like to help coordinate (it will need at least one person to maintain each language), let me know what languages you'd like it set up for and I can get things set up with the Wikicities staff.<br /> <br /> :If you're not up to doing this at this time, as a ''temporary'' measure, what you suggest might work but only if you add a category to each plage, like <nowiki>[[Category:Spanish articles]]</nowiki>, and maybe put a template in the main page to indicate that there is a translation for it (you could do one template that would work for the whole page. That way we can find them to move them later on! :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 13:38, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Special bar==<br /> Also, I've created a special bar for the front page [[Template:WikiFur Central/Special|here]]. Go ahead and add it if you think it's a good idea ^^; [[User:Almafeta|Almafeta]] 08:59, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Seems a perfectly reasonable use of space. Added! --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 13:54, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Furry MUCK Logo ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for the welcome. :) I moved the logo at [[User:Markus|Markus]]'s request since he was having trouble with the TOC not liking where it was. It was either a case of the logo staying where it was but being made an image, or moving it to where the &lt;pre&gt;'ed text wouldn't damage the layout. -[[User:Nidonocu|Nidonocu]] 14:14, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Aha! I have a third option - move the TOC to the section below. You can use <nowiki>__TOC__</nowiki> to specify TOC positioning (or <nowiki>__NOTOC__</nowiki> to remove it entirely, but we need it here :-). Will see if I can figure out a good way to do that. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 14:34, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Mmm.. true the TOC can be moved but if the logo is really wanted at the top and understandibly it is the convention to have it there, pahapse taking a screencap of the wording and having a nice logo image would be better? I'll provide the image if you wish though of course, I can't edit the article currently. While I'm here, would it be ok for me to mention a few things we are missing? Um.. for one.. a deletion policy! o.O I've seen a few articles that seem to have little to do with anything furry ([[Zline]] for example). We could also do with setting up our own Manual of Style for how a biography page, a species page or term page should be laid out for example. I have er.. a -little- exprience with MediaWiki you could say. ;) I spent a good few weeks teaching myself the system and actually have a wiki of my own I'm just.. lacking the community to get it going currently. x.x Despite e-mail pokes to the people who have signed up to it. [http://nidonocu.technoweyr.co.uk/ewiki/index.php/Main_Page EpicWiki] which is a fictional writing wiki, as you can see I spent ages making it look good and now.. no support. :/ And my first wiki [http://nidonocu.technoweyr.co.uk/wiki/ here] which was my test and learning how to use it. It was going to be for a friend's project but that's on hiatus now. What I'm ''proud'' of though on that wiki is the extensive [http://nidonocu.technoweyr.co.uk/wiki/index.php?title=Help:Contents help system] I was planning after hating the mine field that is MetaWiki's. You can see from the pages I did write that I might know.. a -little- wiki syntax. ;) [http://nidonocu.technoweyr.co.uk/wiki/index.php?title=Help:Allowed_HTML] [http://nidonocu.technoweyr.co.uk/wiki/index.php?title=Help:Exploring_an_article] *squeeks* Oh seems you've already fixed it so.. never mind. o.O Hope you take some of my thoughts onboard though. o.o -[[User:Nidonocu|Nidonocu]] - [[User talk:Nidonocu|talk]] [[Image:Trans 168.png|16px|Nidonocu]] 14:59, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Policies ==<br /> <br /> I agree we need to set up some policies - deletion, featuring and the like. Right now we are trying to be as inclusive as possible becuase there's really no harm in having articles that are only mildly related to furry topics, but it's something we'll probably have to look at going forward. For now, don't be too worried if you see something that doesn't seem to fit with the wiki's purpose - we can always do a cleanup later. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 15:54, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> ::Might I suggest creating a 'dubious' template then to help us flag articles that need writers to find more proof of their 'furryness' and at a later date, give us a handyway of tracking down things to go on deletion lists. ;> The closest wikipedia tag I'd say would be [[Wikipedia:Template:Unencyclopedic]], to us of course, anything not furry related is Unencyclopedic. <br /> <br /> :::That is a big "of course". I would be wary about limiting the scope of the wiki in that respect. Topics that are only tangentially furry may still be of interest to WikiFur readers and it might well be that there is stuff that can be said about the topic that relates to the furry fandom, and which would not be accepted in the "right" place. Obviously there are cases where links should be converted into links to Wikipedia and the like, but that is not always the case.<br /> <br /> ::Likewise, we could do with getting [[Wikipedia:Template:Advert]] for pages which are clearly adverts for furry sites and need turning in to articles. Infact.. I was about to list a few more but realised we could do with importing quite a few of the templates. Would you mind if I did so and made changes where needed? I'll also make some wikifur: namespace pages if needed with info and so on about them and how to use. -[[User:Nidonocu|Nidonocu]] - [[User talk:Nidonocu|talk]] [[Image:Trans 168.png|16px|Nidonocu]] 16:04, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Go ahead - be bold! But also, be somewhat wary that you do not bite newcommers by telling them that their contributions are not wanted. If you can see a way to expand the from (say) a stub about an unrelated technology to an article about how the technology is used in the furry community, with links to articles in more depth over on (say) Wikipedia, then that would be more appropriate.<br /> <br /> :::Note that you can theoretically use wikicities templates with this method: <nowiki>{{Wikicities:Advert}}</nowiki>. However, if you have time I would import the template as there have been problems with this - most notably it is case-sensitive!<br /> <br /> :::I disagree with the use of the Unencyclpediaic template because I think it imposes strong an opinion on something that ''is'' a matter of opinion - there's been [[Wikipedia:Template_talk:Unencyclopedic|a lot of discussion]] about it. The Advert one sounds fine, because it is a more obvious statement about the quality of an article. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 16:22, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Very well, I'll get going and take on what you've said. :) More fun than staring at Recent Changes. o.O I'll send some links your way when I've made a few up. -[[User:Nidonocu|Nidonocu]] - [[User talk:Nidonocu|talk]] [[Image:Trans 168.png|16px|Nidonocu]] 16:34, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Stylebook ==<br /> <br /> No problem. Is there a stylebook I need to refer to? I see that there have been style changes to the page and I'd rather save somefur else the work if I can...--[[User:Fferret|Fferret]] 19:23, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :To be honest, there isn't one right now - WikiFur only really took off last saturday, and it's been such a rush that we've been figuring them out as we go along. The best guide right now is to extrapolate from existing pages and from Wikipedia. If you do things so that they look the same as similar pages, at least it's consistent. Of course, if you think you have a better way of doing it, you could change them all. Be bold! :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 19:10, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Person pages vs. Personal pages ==<br /> <br /> Since this is going unanswered in the Category talk:People section, I'm going to take this here. :><br /> <br /> I'd like to take initiative to start removing information that's too personal-- such as the likes and dislikes of a person, who they're friends with-- in order to make the people pages sound more informational and less like the person is advertising themselves to other possible friends or love interests. Not saying that these are bad, but inapropriate for something like this wiki, which is supposed to be an online encyclopedia.<br /> <br /> Thoughts? --[[User:Verix|Verix]] 19:35, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Answered on [[Category talk:People]]. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 19:46, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)</div>

Seamora //en.wikifur.com/wiki/User_talk:GreenReaper User talk:GreenReaper 2005-08-18T20:24:10Z

<p>Seamora: </p> <hr /> <div>I can't say anything about if I'll be adding things regularly, but I will when I have time/ideas. As for nationstates, its neat to encounter another head of state no? I run The Union of Tinis which is part of the Furry Federation.<br /> <br /> ----<br /> Hi. Thanks for the welcome. ^^; This seems to be a confusing topic in my mind as far as sorting, but what would "StarFox" groups like RPG's belong to? Certainly the one I know about so far does not use a MU*, but rather IRC and has it's own Wiki even. --[[User:Markus|Markus]] 09:48, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Hmm. Not sure myself. Maybe you should make a new category for roleplaying groups, and then categorize that category page to <nowiki>[[Category:Community]]</nowiki>. You make new categories just by doing <nowiki>[[Category:Whatever]]</nowiki> and then clicking on the link to edit it like any other page. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 14:03, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ----<br /> <br /> Thanks for the welcome! I've really enjoyed participating in WikiFur thus far, and I'm glad my contributions have been useful. I hope to continue to be an active participant in this community effort, and I think it's really going to be a success. ^_^ --[[User:Flynn|Flynn]] 03:34, 10 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ----<br /> <br /> No problem! Great, great project. I'll be contributing more as time allows and directing others to it as well. The pro-vanity page policy is an excellent idea. --[[User:Osfer|Osfer]]<br /> <br /> == Redirect ==<br /> <br /> How does one create a redirect? Ie, to redirect "Camp Feral" to Feral? --{{UT|Tafyrn}}<br /> <br /> :Just type <nowiki>#REDIRECT [[Feral]]</nowiki> on [[Camp Feral]]. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 03:49, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Cleanup ==<br /> <br /> GreenReaper: thanks for your efforts in cleaning up newly created entries. I've learned a great deal from comparing my original entries to the improved versions! --[[User:Osfer|Osfer]]<br /> <br /> :No problem! --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 05:43, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Is there already a 'beginner's guide' page available? If not I'd be happy to start work on it. Berhaps it could be linked to from the main page? --[[User:Osfer|Osfer]]<br /> <br /> :::There's the [[Help:Contents|help]] page, which is linked to on the side and on WikiFur Central. It also links to the [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Contents guide on Meta]. If you think you can improve the help page, go right ahead! --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 05:48, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Have you considered instating a 'ranking' system to indicate users who have contributed a great deal? I'm not trolling for rewards, myself, but as a New Mediast I'm rather interested in how you'd prefer to navigate between the offering of a reward for contribution and preventing people from performing useless edits and contributions to gain a higher ranking. Ranking systems are fairly common in forums and seem to manage themselves, there. --[[User:Osfer|Osfer]]<br /> <br /> :::There are ways to measure people's contributions, if so desired. You can look at a user's contributions page, which is a link in the toolbox to the left when a user's page or talk page is selected. You can also see what other people have said on a person's user talk pages, or look at the [http://www.wikicities.com/wikistats/EN/TablesWikipediaFURRY.htm#wikipedians user section] of the [[Project:About#Statistics|statistics]] to get a rough idea of where they stand contribution-wise.<br /> <br /> :::In the end, though, for the people we really want to attract, contribution is its own reward. That's not to say people can't be ''proud'' of their contributions, of course, but obsessing over it is probably unhealthy. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 06:06, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == NPOV / Vanity Pages ==<br /> <br /> You know, if you're aiming for NPOV, you might want to consider instituting a rule about, uh, not making articles about yourself. They tend to be one-sided at best, and blatant advertisments at worst. And the authors tend to react rather badly to other people editing 'their' writeup.<br /> <br /> But then again, [http://www.everything2.com/ E2] is not NPOV and is also quite awesome. --[[User:Xax|Xax]] 19:02, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :We're not, exactly. I accept that most articles about users are going to be positive. I encourage that, actually, as it's the negative ones that seem to cause trouble. See [http://www.livejournal.com/community/wikifur/2177.html?thread=6017 this discussion] for more on my views about vanity pages, and less important pages in general. Basically, what's appropriate for Wikipedia may not be appropriate for us. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 19:12, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Oh don't worry, it was just a joke. I wouldn't actually go along with something like that, since I'd be banned pretty quickly, I'm sure. :><br /> <br /> == Blue Forest enties ==<br /> <br /> Hi! I just wanted to thank you for putting work into helping out with entries related to Blue Forest. I was plesantly surprised to see these here! I'm in the process of adding and expanding on some of them, now, and I certainly welcome any tweaking that you think needs to be done. -[[User:K.M. Hirosaki|K.M. Hirosaki]] 04:47, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :You're welcome! You obviously have a few loyal fans who cared enough to start them. I'll be watching, but your pages seem pretty good so far. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 04:55, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Is it possible to have both me redirect page "Alex Vance" and my full entry "Osfer" listd under People and Writers, or is this bad form? Considering how many furs alternately use their full name or their handle on-line, I suspect such a construction may be of use to more people.<br /> <br /> Also, have you considered disallowing anonymous edits? The extra effort of registering might be a slight deterrent to casual vandals. --[[User:Osfer|Osfer]]<br /> <br /> :It can be done, but wither it is or not depends on how much longer the trolls persist in causing trouble and grief in their malicious edits. --[[User:Markus|Markus]] 13:16, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == kekeke goon rush ==<br /> <br /> At this point I would just suggest forbidding anon edits and new account creation for a few hours (if you can do that) --[[User:Xax|Xax]] 18:14, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> ==OMG whut admin?==<br /> No, I certainly don't mind keeping an eye on the RC for vandalism for the time being. The whole "goon rush" issue is what helped me find out about this wiki :) [[User:MelSkunk|MelSkunk]] 19:21, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Article naming convention proposal ==<br /> <br /> When I saw [[Serval]] come up as an article, I knew we were going to have an issue. As I'm sure you're aware, some of the older fur fans have gone by animal names as fan names. I propose that we have a <nowiki>[[Category:Species]]</nowiki> with names of things that are animals, as opposed to characters, appended with Serval (species) or Panther (species) or Fox (species), sort of like how WP is has (film) and such.<br /> What do you think? [[User:MelSkunk|MelSkunk]] 05:14, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :It's a good idea. Go for it! --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 05:31, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == About "admin" status. ==<br /> <br /> I feel kind of weird for now noticing this, and even weirder for bringing it up, but I'll throw this out there anyway:<br /> <br /> WikiFur:Administrators lists me as an admin, and you've also done it on the community LiveJournal which proves that it wasn't just a misclick or anything like that, but after looking up what I'd be able to do with this status, I notice that... well, none of it's there. :) I confirmed this by looking at the literal special page and notice that, while Osfer's name is on there, mine isn't.<br /> <br /> Not harping on you to get '''right on this''' so I can go willy nilly on this here Internet Wikipedia machine, because that would be stupid, but can you double-check to see if you did add me to the actual admin database? Thanks. -- [[User:Verix|Verix]] 06:17, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : *scratches head* - I certainly ''thought'' I put you in there . . . I was on wireless, though, so maybe it didn't take . I was in a bit of a rush adding new admins at the time, so I didn't check. Sorry! Should work now. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 06:21, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: And there it is in the log. Thank you for trusting me enough to give me this ability. :) -- [[User:Verix|Verix]] 06:22, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ----<br /> <br /> Abuh? Well, that was unexpected! Thanks - I'll try to help out as best I can. --[[User:DuncanDaHusky|Duncan da Husky]] 17:18, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :You came recommended - besides, you already ''have'' been helping, this just lets you help more. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 17:28, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==More stylistic suggestions==<br /> <br /> Lord forbid, got another bother:<br /> We're getting so many dang micro articles, I think a stub-expansion template for the front might be a good idea.<br /> I've modified one of the tables to be like that in my Userpage, if you'd like to see what it looks like. I'm just excessivly reluctant to make a template without authorization, and even less wanting to add new things to the front page :) -- [[User:MelSkunk|MelSkunk]] 03:04, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :This isn't Wikipedia - you won't get flamed for making a template you think will be useful, or for editing the main page. Be bold! :-)<br /> <br /> :The only suggestion I would make is removing the last entry and the - before it as that pushes it over one line for 1024x786 maximised (I've been trying to keep all the main templates that size). Other than that, it looks good to go. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 03:07, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I shall go forth fluffily, then! -- [[User:MelSkunk|MelSkunk]] 03:12, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Languages ==<br /> I had just one question re this wiki: Are there any guidelines for creating furry articles not in English? Say, [[Chakat/ia]] or [[Chakat/ru]] or whatnot? I'm a member of Furrys Pro Interlingua, as well as a general-purpose language geekskunk, and I'm just curious. [[User:Almafeta|Almafeta]] 13:18, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The "best" way to do it would be to use something like ru.furry.wikicities.com, edit pages on there, and then use translation tags to link to them, as in Wikipedia. We do not have versions of WikiFur in other langauges at this time. If this is something you'd like to help coordinate (it will need at least one person to maintain each language), let me know what languages you'd like it set up for and I can get things set up with the Wikicities staff.<br /> <br /> :If you're not up to doing this at this time, as a ''temporary'' measure, what you suggest might work but only if you add a category to each plage, like <nowiki>[[Category:Spanish articles]]</nowiki>, and maybe put a template in the main page to indicate that there is a translation for it (you could do one template that would work for the whole page. That way we can find them to move them later on! :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 13:38, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Special bar==<br /> Also, I've created a special bar for the front page [[Template:WikiFur Central/Special|here]]. Go ahead and add it if you think it's a good idea ^^; [[User:Almafeta|Almafeta]] 08:59, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Seems a perfectly reasonable use of space. Added! --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 13:54, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Furry MUCK Logo ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for the welcome. :) I moved the logo at [[User:Markus|Markus]]'s request since he was having trouble with the TOC not liking where it was. It was either a case of the logo staying where it was but being made an image, or moving it to where the &lt;pre&gt;'ed text wouldn't damage the layout. -[[User:Nidonocu|Nidonocu]] 14:14, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Aha! I have a third option - move the TOC to the section below. You can use <nowiki>__TOC__</nowiki> to specify TOC positioning (or <nowiki>__NOTOC__</nowiki> to remove it entirely, but we need it here :-). Will see if I can figure out a good way to do that. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 14:34, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Mmm.. true the TOC can be moved but if the logo is really wanted at the top and understandibly it is the convention to have it there, pahapse taking a screencap of the wording and having a nice logo image would be better? I'll provide the image if you wish though of course, I can't edit the article currently. While I'm here, would it be ok for me to mention a few things we are missing? Um.. for one.. a deletion policy! o.O I've seen a few articles that seem to have little to do with anything furry ([[Zline]] for example). We could also do with setting up our own Manual of Style for how a biography page, a species page or term page should be laid out for example. I have er.. a -little- exprience with MediaWiki you could say. ;) I spent a good few weeks teaching myself the system and actually have a wiki of my own I'm just.. lacking the community to get it going currently. x.x Despite e-mail pokes to the people who have signed up to it. [http://nidonocu.technoweyr.co.uk/ewiki/index.php/Main_Page EpicWiki] which is a fictional writing wiki, as you can see I spent ages making it look good and now.. no support. :/ And my first wiki [http://nidonocu.technoweyr.co.uk/wiki/ here] which was my test and learning how to use it. It was going to be for a friend's project but that's on hiatus now. What I'm ''proud'' of though on that wiki is the extensive [http://nidonocu.technoweyr.co.uk/wiki/index.php?title=Help:Contents help system] I was planning after hating the mine field that is MetaWiki's. You can see from the pages I did write that I might know.. a -little- wiki syntax. ;) [http://nidonocu.technoweyr.co.uk/wiki/index.php?title=Help:Allowed_HTML] [http://nidonocu.technoweyr.co.uk/wiki/index.php?title=Help:Exploring_an_article] *squeeks* Oh seems you've already fixed it so.. never mind. o.O Hope you take some of my thoughts onboard though. o.o -[[User:Nidonocu|Nidonocu]] - [[User talk:Nidonocu|talk]] [[Image:Trans 168.png|16px|Nidonocu]] 14:59, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Policies ==<br /> <br /> I agree we need to set up some policies - deletion, featuring and the like. Right now we are trying to be as inclusive as possible becuase there's really no harm in having articles that are only mildly related to furry topics, but it's something we'll probably have to look at going forward. For now, don't be too worried if you see something that doesn't seem to fit with the wiki's purpose - we can always do a cleanup later. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 15:54, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> ::Might I suggest creating a 'dubious' template then to help us flag articles that need writers to find more proof of their 'furryness' and at a later date, give us a handyway of tracking down things to go on deletion lists. ;> The closest wikipedia tag I'd say would be [[Wikipedia:Template:Unencyclopedic]], to us of course, anything not furry related is Unencyclopedic. <br /> <br /> :::That is a big "of course". I would be wary about limiting the scope of the wiki in that respect. Topics that are only tangentially furry may still be of interest to WikiFur readers and it might well be that there is stuff that can be said about the topic that relates to the furry fandom, and which would not be accepted in the "right" place. Obviously there are cases where links should be converted into links to Wikipedia and the like, but that is not always the case.<br /> <br /> ::Likewise, we could do with getting [[Wikipedia:Template:Advert]] for pages which are clearly adverts for furry sites and need turning in to articles. Infact.. I was about to list a few more but realised we could do with importing quite a few of the templates. Would you mind if I did so and made changes where needed? I'll also make some wikifur: namespace pages if needed with info and so on about them and how to use. -[[User:Nidonocu|Nidonocu]] - [[User talk:Nidonocu|talk]] [[Image:Trans 168.png|16px|Nidonocu]] 16:04, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Go ahead - be bold! But also, be somewhat wary that you do not bite newcommers by telling them that their contributions are not wanted. If you can see a way to expand the from (say) a stub about an unrelated technology to an article about how the technology is used in the furry community, with links to articles in more depth over on (say) Wikipedia, then that would be more appropriate.<br /> <br /> :::Note that you can theoretically use wikicities templates with this method: <nowiki>{{Wikicities:Advert}}</nowiki>. However, if you have time I would import the template as there have been problems with this - most notably it is case-sensitive!<br /> <br /> :::I disagree with the use of the Unencyclpediaic template because I think it imposes strong an opinion on something that ''is'' a matter of opinion - there's been [[Wikipedia:Template_talk:Unencyclopedic|a lot of discussion]] about it. The Advert one sounds fine, because it is a more obvious statement about the quality of an article. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 16:22, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Very well, I'll get going and take on what you've said. :) More fun than staring at Recent Changes. o.O I'll send some links your way when I've made a few up. -[[User:Nidonocu|Nidonocu]] - [[User talk:Nidonocu|talk]] [[Image:Trans 168.png|16px|Nidonocu]] 16:34, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Stylebook ==<br /> <br /> No problem. Is there a stylebook I need to refer to? I see that there have been style changes to the page and I'd rather save somefur else the work if I can...--[[User:Fferret|Fferret]] 19:23, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :To be honest, there isn't one right now - WikiFur only really took off last saturday, and it's been such a rush that we've been figuring them out as we go along. The best guide right now is to extrapolate from existing pages and from Wikipedia. If you do things so that they look the same as similar pages, at least it's consistent. Of course, if you think you have a better way of doing it, you could change them all. Be bold! :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 19:10, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Person pages vs. Personal pages ==<br /> <br /> Since this is going unanswered in the Category talk:People section, I'm going to take this here. :><br /> <br /> I'd like to take initiative to start removing information that's too personal-- such as the likes and dislikes of a person, who they're friends with-- in order to make the people pages sound more informational and less like the person is advertising themselves to other possible friends or love interests. Not saying that these are bad, but inapropriate for something like this wiki, which is supposed to be an online encyclopedia.<br /> <br /> Thoughts? --[[User:Verix|Verix]] 19:35, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Answered on [[Category talk:People]]. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 19:46, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Linking to a term in Wikipedia, but not in Wikifur ==<br /> <br /> May I ask how one would make a link or reference to a term that, while not defined in Wikifur, and not directly furry related, is defined in Wikipedia?</div>

Seamora //en.wikifur.com/wiki/User:Seamora User:Seamora 2005-08-18T20:02:15Z

<p>Seamora: </p> <hr /> <div>== About Me ==<br /> <br /> [[Image:seamora_port.jpg|left]] <br /> <br /> Seamora smiles and curtsies with feline grace.<br /> <br /> Hello. I am honored to meet you. <br /> <br /> I have been a furry and an artist all my life, but only somewhat recently have I discovered the furry community. This has been something of an epiphany for me; consequently, I look forward to contributing in any way that I can.<br /> <br /> Please, do feel welcome to leave a comment on my [[User_talk:Seamora]] page, if you like.<br /> <br /> == External links ==<br /> <br /> * [http://www.livejournal.com/users/seamora/ Seamora's LiveJournal]<br /> <br /> * [http://seamora-palecloud.deviantart.com/ Seamora's DeviantArt page]</div>

Seamora //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Furmeet Furmeet 2005-08-18T19:59:15Z

<p>Seamora: </p> <hr /> <div>A '''furmeet''' is a regularly held gathering of furs in a given area. They range in size from small, local meets to large, annual gatherings such as the [[Mephit Furmeet]], held in Tennessee.<br /> <br /> {{stub}}<br /> <br /> == External links ==<br /> <br /> * [http://www.mephitfurmeet.org/ Mephit Furmeet convention website]<br /> * [http://furcadia.meetup.com/ Furcadia Meetup Page]<br /> *[http://www.livejournal.com/community/socalfurs/ Southern California Furs LiveJournal]<br /> *[http://vaf.wuffden.com/ Vancouver Area Furs Mailing List]<br /> <br /> [[Category:Community]]</div>

Seamora //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Furmeet Furmeet 2005-08-18T19:58:22Z

<p>Seamora: </p> <hr /> <div>A '''furmeet''' is a regularly held gathering of furs in a given area. They range in size from small, local meets to large, annual gatherings such as the [[Mephit Furmeet]],held in Tennessee.<br /> <br /> {{stub}}<br /> <br /> == External links ==<br /> <br /> * [http://www.mephitfurmeet.org/ Mephit Furmeet convention website]<br /> * [http://furcadia.meetup.com/ Furcadia Meetup Page]<br /> *[http://www.livejournal.com/community/socalfurs/ Southern California Furs LiveJournal]<br /> *[http://vaf.wuffden.com/ Vancouver Area Furs Mailing List]<br /> <br /> [[Category:Community]]</div>

Seamora //en.wikifur.com/wiki/User:Seamora User:Seamora 2005-08-18T10:55:48Z

<p>Seamora: </p> <hr /> <div>== About Me ==<br /> <br /> [[Image:seamora_port.jpg|left]] <br /> <br /> Seamora smiles and curtsies with feline grace.<br /> <br /> Hello. I am honored to meet you. <br /> <br /> I have been a furry and an artist all my life, but only somewhat recently have I discovered the furry community. This has been something of an epiphany for me; as a result, I look forward to contributing in any way that I can.<br /> <br /> Please, do feel welcome to leave a comment on my [[User_talk:Seamora]] page, if you like.<br /> <br /> == External links ==<br /> <br /> * [http://www.livejournal.com/users/seamora/ Seamora's LiveJournal]<br /> <br /> * [http://seamora-palecloud.deviantart.com/ Seamora's DeviantArt page]</div>

Seamora //en.wikifur.com/wiki/User:Seamora User:Seamora 2005-08-18T10:54:28Z

<p>Seamora: </p> <hr /> <div>== About Me ==<br /> <br /> [[Image:seamora_port.jpg|left]] <br /> <br /> Seamora smiles and curtsies with feline grace.<br /> <br /> Hello. I am honored to meet you. <br /> <br /> I have been a furry and an artist all my life, but only somewhat recently have I discovered the furry community. This has been something of an epiphany for me; as a result, I look forward to contributing in any way that I can.<br /> <br /> Please, do feel welcome to leave a comment on my [[User_talk:Seamora]] page, if you like.<br /> <br /> == External links ==<br /> <br /> * [http://www.livejournal.com/users/seamora/Seamora's LiveJournal]<br /> <br /> * [http://seamora-palecloud.deviantart.com/ Seamora's DeviantArt page]</div>

Seamora //en.wikifur.com/wiki/User:Seamora User:Seamora 2005-08-18T10:54:01Z

<p>Seamora: </p> <hr /> <div>== About Me ==<br /> <br /> [[Image:seamora_port.jpg|left]] <br /> <br /> Seamora smiles and curtsies with feline grace.<br /> <br /> Hello. I am honored to meet you. I have been a furry and an artist all my life, but only somewhat recently have I discovered the furry community. This has been something of an epiphany for me; as a result, I look forward to contributing in any way that I can.<br /> <br /> Please, do feel welcome to leave a comment on my [[User_talk:Seamora]] page, if you like.<br /> <br /> == External links ==<br /> <br /> * [http://www.livejournal.com/users/seamora/Seamora's LiveJournal]<br /> <br /> * [http://seamora-palecloud.deviantart.com/ Seamora's DeviantArt page]</div>

Seamora //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Primal_(language) Primal (language) 2005-08-18T07:53:06Z

<p>Seamora: </p> <hr /> <div>[[Image:Primal FrontCover.jpg|right]]<b>Primal</b> is a conlang created by [[Trickster (character)|Trickster]] as a common tongue for the [[furry]] and [[otherkin]] communities. As such, its vocabulary and structure are uniquely suited to shapechangers, anthropomorphic animals, and other such beings.<br /> <br /> Primal is a complex language, about on par with Klingon; its grammar is last-in-first-out similar to German, with a rigid sentence structure similar to Chinese.<br /> <br /> The language also has its own script, which is necessary with the large number of phonemes it has (24 vowels and 23 consonants). Despite its complexity, some 25 furs speak Primal, with another 40 non-speakers in the English-language Primal discussion group.<br /> <br /> ==External Links==<br /> *[http://www.langmaker.com/db/mdl_primal.htm Primal at Langmaker]<br /> *[http://trickster.wereanimal.net/Primal/ Primal, official page]</div>

Seamora //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Category:Novels Category:Novels 2005-08-17T10:02:57Z

<p>Seamora: </p> <hr /> <div>Many novels exist in popular culture that include or centre around anthropomorphic animals.<br /> <br /> '''Scroll down for existing novel pages.'''<br /> <br /> == Novels to add ==<br /> <br /> If you can think of a novel that deserves writing about, add it in here, and maybe someone will. Don't let that stop '''you''' writing about a novel.<br /> <br /> <table valign="top"><br /> <tr><td>&nbsp;A-D</td><td>&nbsp;E-L</td><td>&nbsp;M-R</td><td>&nbsp;S-Z</td><br /> <tr valign="top"><td><br /> * [[Amazing Maurice and His Educated Rodents, The]]<br /> * [[Architect of Sleep, The]]<br /> * [[Black Beauty]]<br /> * [[Blood Jaguar, The]]<br /> * [[Born Free]]<br /> * [[Charlotte's Web]]<br /> * [[Celery Stalks at Midnight, The]]<br /> * [[Chronicles of Narnia]]<br /> * [[Dr. Dolittle]]<br /> </td><td><br /> * [[Forever Free]]<br /> * [[Golden Compass, The]]<br /> * [[Adventures of Happy Jack, The]]<br /> * [[Jenny]]<br /> * [[Jungle Book, The]]<br /> * [[Last of the Free]]<br /> * [[Last Unicorn, The]]<br /> * [[Living Free]]<br /> </td><td><br /> * [[Mark of the Cat, The]]<br /> * [[Man-Kzin Wars, The]]<br /> * [[Mrs. Frisby and the Rats of NIMH]]<br /> * [[Redwall]]<br /> </td><td><br /> * [[Pippa's Challenge]]<br /> * [[Shardik]]<br /> * [[Spellsinger]]<br /> * [[Spotted Sphynx]]<br /> * [[Stuart Little]]<br /> * [[Tales from Watership Down]]<br /> * [[Tale of Despereaux, The]]<br /> * [[The Wanderer]]<br /> * [[Waterbabies, The]]<br /> * [[Where The Lions Walked]]<br /> * [[With My Soul Amongst Lions]]<br /> </td></tr></table><br /> <br /> For a more comprehensive list, see [http://www.furries.info/novel-list.html this novel list] as maintained by [[Dave Farrance]].<br /> <br /> [[Category:Culture]]</div>

Seamora //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Category:Novels Category:Novels 2005-08-17T10:02:01Z

<p>Seamora: </p> <hr /> <div>Many novels exist in popular culture that include or centre around anthropomorphic animals.<br /> <br /> '''Scroll down for existing novel pages.'''<br /> <br /> == Novels to add ==<br /> <br /> If you can think of a novel that deserves writing about, add it in here, and maybe someone will. Don't let that stop '''you''' writing about a novel.<br /> <br /> <table valign="top"><br /> <tr><td>&nbsp;A-D</td><td>&nbsp;E-L</td><td>&nbsp;M-R</td><td>&nbsp;S-Z</td><br /> <tr valign="top"><td><br /> * [[Amazing Maurice and His Educated Rodents, The]]<br /> * [[Architect of Sleep, The]]<br /> * [[Black Beauty]]<br /> * [[Blood Jaguar, The]]<br /> * [[Born Free]]<br /> * [[Charlotte's Web]]<br /> * [[Celery Stalks at Midnight, The]]<br /> * [[Chronicles of Narnia]]<br /> * [[Dr. Dolittle]]<br /> </td><td><br /> * [[Forever Free]]<br /> * [[Golden Compass, The]]<br /> * [[Adventures of Happy Jack, The]]<br /> * [[Jenny]]<br /> * [[Last of the Free]]<br /> * [[Last Unicorn, The]]<br /> * [[Living Free]]<br /> </td><td><br /> * [[Mark of the Cat, The]]<br /> * [[Man-Kzin Wars, The]]<br /> * [[Mrs. Frisby and the Rats of NIMH]]<br /> * [[Redwall]]<br /> </td><td><br /> * [[Pippa's Challenge]]<br /> * [[Shardik]]<br /> * [[Spellsinger]]<br /> * [[Spotted Sphynx]]<br /> * [[Stuart Little]]<br /> * [[Tales from Watership Down]]<br /> * [[Tale of Despereaux, The]]<br /> * [[The Wanderer]]<br /> * [[Waterbabies, The]]<br /> * [[Where The Lions Walked]]<br /> * [[With My Soul Amongst Lions]]<br /> </td></tr></table><br /> <br /> For a more comprehensive list, see [http://www.furries.info/novel-list.html this novel list] as maintained by [[Dave Farrance]].<br /> <br /> [[Category:Culture]]</div>

Seamora //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Category:Movies Category:Movies 2005-08-17T09:57:34Z

<p>Seamora: </p> <hr /> <div>'''Movies''' are fun for all the family! Well, some of them, anyway . . .<br /> [[Category:Culture]]<br /> <br /> == Movies to add ==<br /> <br /> If you can think of a comic that deserves writing about, add it in here, and maybe someone will.<br /> <br /> <table valign="top"><br /> <tr><td>&nbsp;A-D</td><td>&nbsp;E-L</td><td>&nbsp;M-R</td><td>&nbsp;S-Z</td><br /> <tr valign="top"><td><br /> * [[Animal, The]]<br /> * [[Ace Ventura, Pet Detective]]<br /> * [[Ace Ventura, Pet Detective: When Nature Calls]]<br /> * [[All Dogs Go To Heaven]]<br /> * [[All Dogs Go To Heaven 2]]<br /> * [[Aristocats, The]]<br /> * [[Born Free]]<br /> * [[Cat Returns, The]]<br /> * [[Cats and Dogs]]<br /> * [[Cats Don't Dance]]<br /> * [[Charlotte's Web]]<br /> * [[Chicken Run]]<br /> * [[Close Shave, A]]<br /> * [[Creature Comforts]]<br /> * [[Dr. Dolittle]]<br /> * [[Dr. Dolittle2]]<br /> </td><br /> <td><br /> * [[Fern Gully]]<br /> * [[Fern Gully 2: The Magical Resque]]<br /> * [[Fox and the Hound, The]]<br /> * [[Gold Digger]]<br /> * [[Grand Day Out, A]]<br /> * [[Homeward Bound]]<br /> * [[Homeward Bound 2]]<br /> </td><br /> <td><br /> * [[Last Unicorn, The]]<br /> * [[Legend of Cougar Canyon]]<br /> * [[Living Free]]<br /> * [[Mononoke Hime]]<br /> * [[Oliver and company]]<br /> * [[Porco Rosso]]<br /> * [[Robin Hood]]<br /> </td><br /> <td><br /> * [[Secret of NIMH]]<br /> * [[Secret of NIMH 2]]<br /> * [[Spirit]]<br /> * [[Stuart Little]]<br /> * [[Stuart Little 2]]<br /> * [[Watership Down]]<br /> * [[Wrong Trousers, The]]<br /> </td></tr></table></div>

Seamora //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Category:Novels Category:Novels 2005-08-16T09:40:11Z

<p>Seamora: </p> <hr /> <div>Many novels exist in popular culture that include or centre around anthropomorphic animals and are enjoyed by both the general public and by members of the furry [[:Category:Community|community]].<br /> <br /> '''Scroll down for existing novel pages.'''<br /> <br /> == Novels to add ==<br /> <br /> If you can think of a novel that deserves writing about, add it in here, and maybe someone will. Don't let that stop '''you''' writing about a novel.<br /> <br /> <table valign="top"><br /> <tr><td>&nbsp;A-D</td><td>&nbsp;E-L</td><td>&nbsp;M-R</td><td>&nbsp;S-Z</td><br /> <tr valign="top"><td><br /> * [[Amazing Maurice and His Educated Rodents, The]]<br /> * [[Architect of Sleep, The]]<br /> * [[Black Beauty]]<br /> * [[Charlotte's Web]]<br /> * [[Celery Stalks at Midnight, The]]<br /> * [[Chronicles of Narnia]]<br /> * [[Dr. Dolittle]]<br /> </td><td><br /> * [[Golden Compass, The]]<br /> * [[Adventures of Happy Jack, The]]<br /> * [[Last Unicorn, The]]<br /> </td><td><br /> * [[Mark of the Cat, The]]<br /> * [[Man-Kzin Wars, The]]<br /> * [[Mrs. Frisby and the Rats of NIMH]]<br /> * [[Redwall]]<br /> </td><td><br /> * [[Shardik]]<br /> * [[Spellsinger]]<br /> * [[Stuart Little]]<br /> * [[Tales from Watership Down]]<br /> * [[Tale of Despereaux, The]]<br /> * [[Watership Down]]<br /> </td></tr></table><br /> <br /> For a more comprehensive list, see [http://www.furries.info/novel-list.html this novel list] as maintained by [[Dave Farrance]].<br /> <br /> [[Category:Culture]]</div>

Seamora //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Category:Novels Category:Novels 2005-08-16T08:37:05Z

<p>Seamora: </p> <hr /> <div>Many novels exist in popular culture that include or centre around anthropomorphic animals and are enjoyed by both the general public and by members of the furry [[:Category:Community|community]].<br /> <br /> '''Scroll down for existing novel pages.'''<br /> <br /> == Novels to add ==<br /> <br /> If you can think of a novel that deserves writing about, add it in here, and maybe someone will. Don't let that stop '''you''' writing about a novel.<br /> <br /> <table valign="top"><br /> <tr><td>&nbsp;A-D</td><td>&nbsp;E-L</td><td>&nbsp;M-R</td><td>&nbsp;S-Z</td><br /> <tr valign="top"><td><br /> * [[Amazing Maurice and His Educated Rodents, The]]<br /> * [[Black Beauty]]<br /> * [[Charlotte's Web]]<br /> * [[Chronicles of Narnia]]<br /> * [[Dr. Dolittle]]<br /> </td><td><br /> * [[Happy Jack]]<br /> * [[Last Unicorn, the]]<br /> </td><td><br /> * [[Mark of the Cat, The]]<br /> * [[Man-Kzin Wars, The]]<br /> * [[Mrs. Frisby and the Rats of NIMH]]<br /> * [[Redwall]]<br /> </td><td><br /> * [[Spellsinger]]<br /> * [[Stuart Little]]<br /> * [[Tales from Watership Down]]<br /> * [[Tale of Despereaux, the]]<br /> * [[Watership Down]]<br /> </td></tr></table><br /> <br /> For a more comprehensive list, see [http://www.furries.info/novel-list.html this novel list] as maintained by [[Dave Farrance]].<br /> <br /> [[Category:Culture]]</div>

Seamora //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Category:Novels Category:Novels 2005-08-16T08:31:29Z

<p>Seamora: </p> <hr /> <div>Many novels exist in popular culture that include or centre around anthropomorphic animals and are enjoyed by both the general public and by members of the furry [[:Category:Community|community]].<br /> <br /> '''Scroll down for existing novel pages.'''<br /> <br /> == Novels to add ==<br /> <br /> If you can think of a novel that deserves writing about, add it in here, and maybe someone will. Don't let that stop '''you''' writing about a novel.<br /> <br /> <table valign="top"><br /> <tr><td>&nbsp;A-D</td><td>&nbsp;E-L</td><td>&nbsp;M-R</td><td>&nbsp;S-Z</td><br /> <tr valign="top"><td><br /> * [[Amazing Maurice and His Educated Rodents, The]]<br /> * [[Black Beauty]]<br /> * [[Charlotte's Web]]<br /> * [[Chronicles of Narnia]]<br /> * [[Dr. Dolittle]]<br /> </td><td><br /> * [[Last Unicorn, the]]<br /> </td><td><br /> * [[Mark of the Cat, The]]<br /> * [[Man-Kzin Wars, The]]<br /> * [[Mrs. Frisby and the Rats of NIMH]]<br /> * [[Redwall]]<br /> </td><td><br /> * [[Spellsinger]]<br /> * [[Stuart Little]]<br /> * [[Tales from Watership Down]]<br /> * [[Tale of Despereaux, the]]<br /> * [[Watership Down]]<br /> </td></tr></table><br /> <br /> For a more comprehensive list, see [http://www.furries.info/novel-list.html this novel list] as maintained by [[Dave Farrance]].<br /> <br /> [[Category:Culture]]</div>

Seamora //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Category:Music Category:Music 2005-08-16T08:17:34Z

<p>Seamora: </p> <hr /> <div>'''Music''' is an integral, meaningful aspect of life enjoyed by many cultures, and the Furry fandom is no exception.<br /> [[Category:Culture]]<br /> <br /> == Music to add ==<br /> <br /> If you can think of a genre of Furry music that deserves writing about, add it in here, and purrhaps someone will.<br /> <br /> <table valign="top"><br /> <tr><td>&nbsp;A-D</td><td>&nbsp;E-L</td><td>&nbsp;M-R</td><td>&nbsp;S-Z</td><br /> <tr valign="top"><td><br /> * [[ambient]]<br /> * [[classical]]<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> </td><br /> <td><br /> * [[jazz]]<br /> </td><br /> <td><br /> <br /> </td></tr></table></div>

Seamora //en.wikifur.com/wiki/KitttyKat KitttyKat 2005-08-15T02:33:39Z

<p>Seamora: </p> <hr /> <div>'''Kitttykat''' (Katherine Barber) is an artist whose repertoire includes [[furry]], [[anthropomorphic]], and fantasy art (digital and traditional), poetry, and photography.<br /> <br /> == External links ==<br /> * [http://www.kitttykat.com Kitttykat's home page]<br /> [[Category:People]][[Category:Artists]]</div>

Seamora //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Kyoht Kyoht 2005-08-15T02:32:17Z

<p>Seamora: </p> <hr /> <div>'''H. Kyhot Luterman''' is a freelance illustrator who mainly works with traditional media (viz. acrylics). Having worked professionally since 2000, She has worked on several projects, including a book cover commission for a [[Sofawolf Press]] collection of short sories. <br /> <br /> == External links ==<br /> <br /> * [http://www.kyoht.com Kyoht's home page]<br /> * [http://www.livejournal.com/users/kyoht/ The Exciting World Of Snake Molestation] - Kyoht's LiveJournal<br /> <br /> [[Category:People]][[Category: Artists]]</div>

Seamora //en.wikifur.com/wiki/KitttyKat KitttyKat 2005-08-15T01:08:57Z

<p>Seamora: </p> <hr /> <div>Kitttykat is an artist whose repertoire includes furry, anthropomorphic, and fantasy art (digital and traditional), poetry, and photography.<br /> <br /> Address: http://www.kitttykat.com</div>

Seamora //en.wikifur.com/wiki/KitttyKat KitttyKat 2005-08-15T01:08:16Z

<p>Seamora: </p> <hr /> <div>Kitttykat is a furry artist whose repertoire includes furry, anthropomorphic, and fantasy art (digital and traditional), poetry, and photography.<br /> <br /> Address: http://www.kitttykat.com</div>

Seamora //en.wikifur.com/wiki/User_talk:Seamora User talk:Seamora 2005-08-15T01:01:37Z

<p>Seamora: </p> <hr /> <div>Hi there, Seamora - welcome to WikiFur! Let me know on my user talk page if you need any [[Help:Contents|help]] not provided already. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 23:31, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Seamora Bows and smiles—It is a pleasure to contribute, and an honor to make your acquaintance. I shall certainly seek your aid should the need arise. Thank you. ^_^</div>

Seamora //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Category:People Category:People 2005-08-14T23:28:06Z

<p>Seamora: /* People to add */</p> <hr /> <div>'''Scroll down for the list of people, and for categories of people.'''<br /> <br /> Know about someone? Write a page and add it to this category! In general, it is best to use the name by which people go in the community - either a nickname or their real name. Be as specific as possible, to avoid nickname collisions.<br /> <br /> If both are publicly used, write the nickname and use a redirect (<nowiki>#REDIRECT [[NickName]]</nowiki> on its own) to point the real name to it.<br /> <br /> It's probably not a good idea to link a real name to a person that only goes by their nickname, even if you know it. Some people prefer to be anonymous - please respect that! :-)<br /> <br /> If people fit in a subcategory like [[:Category:Artists|Artists]], please put them in the People category ''and'' the subcategory, so we can have a complete list of people. This probably shouldn't apply to lower-down layers, so if someone is well known as a [[:Category:Comic artists|comic artist]], don't put them in Artists as well.<br /> <br /> == People to add ==<br /> <br /> If you can think of someone that deserves writing about, add them in here, and maybe someone will. Don't let that stop '''you''' writing about someone, including yourself!<br /> <table valign="top"><br /> <tr><td>&nbsp;A-D</td><td>&nbsp;E-L</td><td>&nbsp;M-R</td><td>&nbsp;S-Z</td><br /> <tr valign="top"><td><br /> * [[Aureth]]<br /> * [[BustyBunny]]<br /> * [[Butterscotch]]<br /> * [[Captain Packrat]]<br /> * [[Ch'marr]]<br /> * [[Chip_Unicorn]]<br /> </td><td><br /> * [[Eric W Schwartz]]<br /> * [[Feenixfire]]<br /> * [[FireEyes]]<br /> * [[FoxxFire]]<br /> * [[furrykef]]<br /> * [[Gene Breshears]]<br /> * [[Gene Catlow]]<br /> * [[Hervystia]]<br /> * [[Jheryn]]<br /> * [[Karabiner]]<br /> * [[Ken Singshow]]<br /> * [[Kitttykat]]<br /> * [[Kyoht]]<br /> </td><td><br /> * [[Michele Light]]<br /> * [[mwalimu]]<br /> * [[Neverwench]]<br /> * [[Potoroo]]<br /> * [[Revar]]<br /> </td><td><br /> * [[Shawn Keller]]<br /> * [[Spazfox]]<br /> * [[Tremaine]]<br /> * [[TygerCowboy]]<br /> * [[Ursula Vernon]]<br /> * [[Xirtam]]<br /> * [[Xydexx]]<br /> </td></tr></table><br /> [[Category:Community]]</div>

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