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Barr Wars

2013-10-03T17:39:41Z

Rris:

{{Cleanup}}

'''''Barr Wars''''' is one of the "zap"-style [[APA]]zines. It was not the first, but it is considered by some to have been the best. In such a 'zine, cartoonists would have their [[character]]s interact -- sometimes violently or viciously, sometimes lovingly, most times crazily -- but usually in a giant game of oneupmanship. Characters of different creators often carried on romances, got married, and even had children. They formed and reformed alliances; drew lines in the sand and dared other artists to cross them; and generally had a laugh-riot.

The War itself actually began life in the pages of the ''[[Centaurs Gatherum]]'', an APA run by and dedicated to centaur fans, with an infamous exchange of bad punnery between members [[Jim Groat]] and [[Donna Barr]].

Mr. Groat had opined that he had figured out where Mrs. Barr's Germanic [[centaur]] character had come from. When "Frau" Barr inquired as to Mr. Groat's deduction, he replied, "BARRVARIA!". Mrs. Barr, naturally enough, begged the rest of the reading audience to "shoot him, not me!".

Mr. Groat's response was to draw his entire main cast of characters holding modern weaponry with the leader in the middle saying "Shoot WHO, Frau Barr?". To which Mrs. Barr posted a picture of all HER main characters (including many who'd never previously been centaurs) with Stinz dressed in Wehrmacht livery and toting a machinegun: "Anyone she tells us to, Herr Groat."

The gauntlets had been thrown, and over the years some fifty-odd (some would say VERY odd) cartoonists slung mud, built nations, exploded nuclear bombs, sent in the spies, had love affairs, and otherwise attempted futilely and humorously to do away with each others' characters, or at least put them in compromising situations. One of the more notable examples of this sort of free-for-all cartoonery can be found in ''[[The Crusade]]'', which covers a story arc that starts with Mrs. Barr (herself, inkwise) molesting a [[unicorn]]. Things go rapidly downhill from there, often hilariously.

Published quarterly, the Wars eventually outgrew the pages of the [[Centaurs Gatherum]], then outgrew the compilations Barr Wars #1 and #2, and continued to be published (without Frau Barr, who has long gone on to more industrious pursuits) under the nom de plume of "Bizarre Wars". The Bizarre Wars itself ultimately became so big that the waitlist of cartoonists awaiting entry spawned a "waitlist APA" called ''[[The Dallas Brawl]]''...just so they could take their creative pressures out on each other while waiting for entry to "the real show"!

Particularly in the older days of the fandom, the Barr Wars were significant in that its membership was virtually a who's-who of [[furry fandom]]'s top talents, to include the likes of [[Terrie Smith]] and [[Scott Ruggels]].

The name "Barr Wars" itself was actually coined by [[Chris Dunn]] and of course is a blatant pun of Star Wars. Chris became involved simply as a follower of The Centaurs Gatherum Newsletter and an avid fan of some of the artists therein. In correspondence with a number of the artists (many of which became great friends) and the CGN he offered to collect, collate, and redistribute to the artists the pictures they drew battling each other.

What started out in the CGN as a few fun pictures between 3 or 4 artists suddenly exploded as more artists contributed. Chris had at the time access to a high volume copier and postal services. In return for covering the copying and postal costs he would get fun originals of some fantastic furry art. Whereas at the start he would collect, copy-full-size, and remail to each of the few artists everyone’s contribution once a month – by the time he had to end his involvement a few years later he was burning out industrial copiers and mailing thick packets of double sided quarter-sized images to over 30 artists every other week.

Using this vast collection of material, well over 600 images at the start, he pasted up Barr Wars #1 and produced a 40 page 8.5x11 compilation. 200 copies were created and one sent to each artists in the jam. The reset were sold at cost to cover printing. A second issue was released some time later, but by then the war had grown so large it had split and morphed into regional factions.

As referenced above, Barr Wars may not of been the first Zap’zine, but is still considered by many to of been the best.

==References==
* "Vas Ist Das BARR WARS?" article in [[Furtherance]] #1, pp 16-18
==External links==
* [http://www.centaur.org/barrwars1/ Barr Wars (#1)] on the website of [[Chris Dunn]]

[[Category:Fanzines]]

The Dallas Brawl

2013-10-03T17:24:11Z

Rris:

'''''The Dallas Brawl''''' is an [[APA]] started by [[Mel. White]]<ref name="jar-dbu">[http://www.jarlidium.com/dbu.html Jarlidium Press: Dallas Brawl Update] webpage. Retrieved 2007 Jan 25.</ref>, owner of [[Laughing Coyote Press]], around 1990 or so as a waitlist for people who were waiting to join the [[Bizarre Warz]], a larger ZAPzine run by [[Glen Wooten]]. (Bizarre Wars itself was a morph of the original [[Barr Wars]] artists' 'zine.)

Originally called '''''The Waitlister's Brawl''''', it did exactly the same thing, thus allowing those who were waiting to hone their skills and enjoy the friendly war. This waitlist in time became its own ZAPzine as Laughing Coyote Press expanded it. Since LCP was centered around Dallas, the APA was renamed ''The Dallas Brawl''.

In late 1997 time constraints and other projects at LCP resulted in ''The Dallas Brawl'''s near end. [[Flinthoof]] and [[Tibo]] of [[Jarlidium Press]] took over the helm, operating the ''Brawl'' until the end of 2002 at which time Jarlidium faced the same issues as LCP had a few years earlier; once more the Brawl faced closure. A thinning base of players also helped in the decline. As of January 2003, a long standing player [[Ferret (person)|Ferret]] at [[Rhatagraphics Press]] assumed the helm of the project.<ref name="jar-dbu"/>

== References ==
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Barr Wars

2013-10-03T17:07:01Z

Rris:

{{Cleanup}}

'''''Barr Wars''''' is one of the "zap"-style [[APA]]zines. It was not the first, but it is considered by some to have been the best. In such a 'zine, cartoonists would have their [[character]]s interact -- often violently or viciously, but not always. Characters of different creators often carried on romances, got married, and even had children. The Barr Wars itself actually began life in the pages of the ''[[Centaurs Gatherum]]'', an APA run by and dedicated to centaur fans.

The Barr Wars themselves began with an infamous exchange of bad punnery between members [[Jim Groat]] and [[Donna Barr]]. Mr. Groat had opined that he had figured out where Mrs. Barr's Germanic [[centaur]] character had come from. When "Frau" Barr inquired as to Mr. Groat's deduction, he replied, "BARRVARIA!". Mrs. Barr, naturally enough, begged the rest of the reading audience to "shoot him, not me!". Mr. Groat's response was to draw his entire main cast of characters holding modern weaponry with the leader in the middle saying "Shoot WHO, Frau Barr?".

To which Mrs. Barr posted a picture of all HER main characters (including many who'd never previously been centaurs) with Stinz dressed in Wehrmacht livery and toting a machinegun: "Anyone she tells us to, Herr Groat."

The gauntlets had been thrown, and over the years some fifty-odd (some would say VERY odd) cartoonists slung mud, built nations, exploded nuclear bombs, and otherwise attempted futilely and humorously to do away with each others' characters. One of the more notable examples of this sort of free-for-all cartoonery can be found in ''[[The Crusade]]'', which covers a story arc that starts with Mrs. Barr (herself, inkwise) molesting a [[unicorn]]. Things go rapidly downhill from there, often hilariously.

Published quarterly, the Barr Wars eventually outgrew the pages of the [[Centaurs Gatherum]] and continue to be published (without Frau Barr, who has long gone on to more industrious pursuits) under the nom de plume of "Bizarre Wars". The Bizarre Wars itself ultimately became so big that the waitlist of cartoonists awaiting entry spawned a "waitlist APA" called ''[[The Dallas Brawl]]''...just so they could take their creative pressures out on each other while waiting for entry to "the real show"!

Particularly in the older days of the fandom, the Barr Wars were significant in that its membership was virtually a who's-who of [[furry fandom]]'s top talents, to include the likes of [[Terrie Smith]] and [[Scott Ruggels]].

The name "Barr Wars" itself was actually coined by [[Chris Dunn]] and of course is a blatant pun of Star Wars. Chris became involved simply as a follower of The Centaurs Gatherum Newsletter and an avid fan of some of the artists therein. In correspondence with a number of the artists (many of which became great friends) and the CGN he offered to collect, collate, and redistribute to the artists the pictures they drew battling each other.

What started out in the CGN as a few fun pictures between 3 or 4 artists suddenly exploded as more artists contributed. Chris had at the time access to a high volume copier and postal services. In return for covering the copying and postal costs he would get fun originals of some fantastic furry art. Whereas at the start he would collect, copy-full-size, and remail to each of the few artists everyone’s contribution once a month – by the time he had to end his involvement a few years later he was burning out industrial copiers and mailing thick packets of double sided quarter-sized images to over 30 artists every other week.

Using this vast collection of material, well over 600 images at the start, he pasted up Barr Wars #1 and produced a 40 page 8.5x11 compilation. 200 copies were created and one sent to each artists in the jam. The reset were sold at cost to cover printing. A second issue was released some time later, but by then the war had grown so large it had split and morphed into regional factions.

As referenced above, Barr Wars may not of been the first Zap’zine, but is still considered by many to of been the best.

==References==
* "Vas Ist Das BARR WARS?" article in [[Furtherance]] #1, pp 16-18
==External links==
* [http://www.centaur.org/barrwars1/ Barr Wars (#1)] on the website of [[Chris Dunn]]

[[Category:Fanzines]]

Barr Wars

2013-10-03T17:06:17Z

Rris:

{{Cleanup}}

'''''Barr Wars''''' is one of the "zap"-style [[APA]]zines. It was not the first, but it is considered by some to have been the best. In such a 'zine, cartoonists would have their [[character]]s interact -- often violently or viciously, but not always. Characters of different creators often carried on romances, got married, and even had children. The Barr Wars itself actually began life in the pages of the ''[[Centaurs Gatherum]]'', an APA run by and dedicated to centaur fans.

The Barr Wars themselves began with an infamous exchange of bad punnery between members [[Jim Groat]] and [[Donna Barr]]. Mr. Groat had opined that he had figured out where Mrs. Barr's Germanic [[centaur]] character had come from. When "Frau" Barr inquired as to Mr. Groat's deduction, he replied, "BARRVARIA!". Mrs. Barr, naturally enough, begged the rest of the reading audience to "shoot him, not me!". Mr. Groat's response was to draw his entire main cast of characters holding modern weaponry with the leader in the middle saying "Shoot WHO, Frau Barr?".

To which Mrs. Barr posted a picture of all HER main characters (including many who'd never previously been centaurs) with Stinz dressed in Wehrmacht livery and toting a machinegun: "Anyone she tells us to, Herr Groat."

The gauntlets had been thrown, and over the years some fifty-odd (some would say VERY odd) cartoonists slung mud, built nations, exploded nuclear bombs, and otherwise attempted futilely and humorously to do away with each others' characters. One of the more notable examples of this sort of free-for-all cartoonery can be found in ''[[The Crusade]]'', which covers a story arc that starts with Mrs. Barr (herself, inkwise) molesting a [[unicorn]]. Things go rapidly downhill from there, often hilariously.

Published quarterly, the Barr Wars eventually outgrew the pages of the [[Centaurs Gatherum]] and continue to be published (without Frau Barr, who has long gone on to more industrious pursuits) under the nom de plume of "Bizarre Wars". The Bizarre Wars itself ultimately became so big that the waitlist of cartoonists awaiting entry spawned a "waitlist APA" called ''[[The Dallas Brawl]]''...just so they could take their creative pressures out on each other while waiting for entry to "the real show"!

Particularly in the older days of the fandom, the Barr Wars were significant in that its membership was virtually a who's-who of [[furry fandom]]'s top talents, to include the likes of [[Terrie Smith]] and [[Scott Ruggels]].

The name "Barr Wars" itself was actually coined by [[Chris Dunn]] and of course is a blatant pun of Star Wars. Chris became involved simply as a follower of The Centaurs Gatherum Newsletter and an avid fan of some of the artists therein. In correspondence with a number of the artists (many of which became great friends)and the CGN he offered to collect, collate, and redistribute to the artists the pictures they drew battling each other.

What started out in the CGN as a few fun pictures between 3 or 4 artists suddenly exploded as more artists contributed. Chris had at the time access to a high volume copier and postal services. In return for covering the copying and postal costs he would get fun originals of some fantastic furry art. Whereas at the start he would collect, copy-full-size, and remail to each of the few artists everyone’s contribution once a month – by the time he had to end his involvement a few years later he was burning out industrial copiers and mailing thick packets of double sided quarter-sized images to over 30 artists every other week.

Using this vast collection of material, well over 600 images at the start, he pasted up Barr Wars #1 and produced a 40 page 8.5x11 compilation. 200 copies were created and one sent to each artists in the jam. The reset were sold at cost to cover printing. A second issue was released some time later, but by then the war had grown so large it had split and morphed into regional factions.

As referenced above, Barr Wars may not of been the first Zap’zine, but is still considered by many to of been the best.

==References==
* "Vas Ist Das BARR WARS?" article in [[Furtherance]] #1, pp 16-18
==External links==
* [http://www.centaur.org/barrwars1/ Barr Wars (#1)] on the website of [[Chris Dunn]]

[[Category:Fanzines]]

Barr Wars

2013-10-03T17:04:26Z

Rris:

{{Cleanup}}

'''''Barr Wars''''' is one of the "zap"-style [[APA]]zines. It was not the first, but it is considered by some to have been the best. In such a 'zine, cartoonists would have their [[character]]s interact -- often violently or viciously, but not always. Characters of different creators often carried on romances, got married, and even had children. The Barr Wars itself actually began life in the pages of the ''[[Centaurs Gatherum]]'', an APA run by and dedicated to centaur fans.

The Barr Wars themselves began with an infamous exchange of bad punnery between members [[Jim Groat]] and [[Donna Barr]]. Mr. Groat had opined that he had figured out where Mrs. Barr's Germanic [[centaur]] character had come from. When "Frau" Barr inquired as to Mr. Groat's deduction, he replied, "BARRVARIA!". Mrs. Barr, naturally enough, begged the rest of the reading audience to "shoot him, not me!". Mr. Groat's response was to draw his entire main cast of characters holding modern weaponry with the leader in the middle saying "Shoot WHO, Frau Barr?".

To which Mrs. Barr posted a picture of all HER main characters (including many who'd never previously been centaurs) with Stinz dressed in Wehrmacht livery and toting a machinegun: "Anyone she tells us to, Herr Groat."

The gauntlets had been thrown, and over the years some fifty-odd (some would say VERY odd) cartoonists slung mud, built nations, exploded nuclear bombs, and otherwise attempted futilely and humorously to do away with each others' characters. One of the more notable examples of this sort of free-for-all cartoonery can be found in ''[[The Crusade]]'', which covers a story arc that starts with Mrs. Barr (herself, inkwise) molesting a [[unicorn]]. Things go rapidly downhill from there, often hilariously.

Published quarterly, the Barr Wars eventually outgrew the pages of the [[Centaurs Gatherum]] and continue to be published (without Frau Barr, who has long gone on to more industrious pursuits) under the nom de plume of "Bizarre Wars". The Bizarre Wars itself ultimately became so big that the waitlist of cartoonists awaiting entry spawned a "waitlist APA" called ''[[The Dallas Brawl]]''...just so they could take their creative pressures out on each other while waiting for entry to "the real show"!

Particularly in the older days of the fandom, the Barr Wars were significant in that its membership was virtually a who's-who of [[furry fandom]]'s top talents, to include the likes of [[Terrie Smith]] and [[Scott Ruggels]].

The name "Barr Wars" itself was actually coined by [[Chris Dunn]] and of course is a blatant pun of Star Wars. Chris became involved simply as a follower of The Centaurs Gatherum Newsletter and an avid fan of some of the artists therein. In correspondence with a number of the artists (many of which became great friends)and the CGN he offered to collect, collate, and redistribute to the artists the pictures they drew battling each other.
What started out in the CGN as a few fun pictures between 3 or 4 artists suddenly exploded as more artists contributed. Chris had at the time access to a high volume copier and postal services. In return for covering the copying and postal costs he would get fun originals of some fantastic furry art. Whereas at the start he would collect, copy-full-size, and remail to each of the few artists everyone’s contribution once a month – by the time he had to end his involvement a few years later he was burning out industrial copiers and mailing thick packets of double sided quarter-sized images to over 30 artists every other week.
Using this vast collection of material, well over 600 images at the start, he pasted up Barr Wars #1 and produced a 40 page 8.5x11 compilation. 200 copies were created and one sent to each artists in the jam. The reset were sold at cost to cover printing. A second issue was released some time later, but by then the war had grown so large it had split and morphed into regional factions.
As referenced above, Barr Wars may not of been the first Zap’zine, but is still considered by many to of been the best.

==References==
* "Vas Ist Das BARR WARS?" article in [[Furtherance]] #1, pp 16-18
==External links==
* [http://www.centaur.org/barrwars1/ Barr Wars (#1)] on the website of [[Chris Dunn]]

[[Category:Fanzines]]

Barr Wars

2013-10-03T16:28:50Z

Rris:

{{Cleanup}}

'''''Barr Wars''''' is one of the "zap"-style [[APA]]zines. It was not the first, but it is considered by some to have been the best. In such a 'zine, cartoonists would have their [[character]]s interact -- often violently or viciously, but not always. Characters of different creators often carried on romances, got married, and even had children. The Barr Wars itself actually began life in the pages of the ''[[Centaurs Gatherum]]'', an APA run by and dedicated to centaur fans.

The Barr Wars themselves began with an infamous exchange of bad punnery between members [[Jim Groat]] and [[Donna Barr]]. Mr. Groat had opined that he had figured out where Mrs. Barr's Germanic [[centaur]] character had come from. When "Frau" Barr inquired as to Mr. Groat's deduction, he replied, "BARRVARIA!". Mrs. Barr, naturally enough, begged the rest of the reading audience to "shoot him, not me!". Mr. Groat's response was to draw his entire main cast of characters holding modern weaponry with the leader in the middle saying "Shoot WHO, Frau Barr?".

To which Mrs. Barr posted a picture of all HER main characters (including many who'd never previously been centaurs) with Stinz dressed in Wehrmacht livery and toting a machinegun: "Anyone she tells us to, Herr Groat."

The gauntlets had been thrown, and over the years some fifty-odd (some would say VERY odd) cartoonists slung mud, built nations, exploded nuclear bombs, and otherwise attempted futilely and humorously to do away with each others' characters. One of the more notable examples of this sort of free-for-all cartoonery can be found in ''[[The Crusade]]'', which covers a story arc that starts with Mrs. Barr (herself, inkwise) molesting a [[unicorn]]. Things go rapidly downhill from there, often hilariously.

Published quarterly, the Barr Wars eventually outgrew the pages of the [[Centaurs Gatherum]] and continue to be published (without Frau Barr, who has long gone on to more industrious pursuits) under the nom de plume of "Bizarre Wars". The Bizarre Wars itself ultimately became so big that the waitlist of cartoonists awaiting entry spawned a "waitlist APA" called ''[[The Dallas Brawl]]''...just so they could take their creative pressures out on each other while waiting for entry to "the real show"!

Particularly in the older days of the fandom, the Barr Wars were significant in that its membership was virtually a who's-who of [[furry fandom]]'s top talents, to include the likes of [[Terrie Smith]] and [[Scott Ruggels]].

==References==
* "Vas Ist Das BARR WARS?" article in [[Furtherance]] #1, pp 16-18
==External links==
* [http://www.centaur.org/barrwars1/ Barr Wars (#1)] on the website of [[Chris Dunn]]

[[Category:Fanzines]]

Chris Dunn

2013-05-31T22:44:10Z

Rris:

'''Chris Dunn''' is a sometimes furry, but mostly centaur rabble-rouser who lives in [[Wikipedia:Chicago|Chicago, Illinois]], U.S.A.

Chris has a [[centaur]] alter-ego named '''Riss''', which was his [[character]] on [[FurryMUCK]]. He was a [[wizard]] on that MUCK [[History_of_FurryMUCK|between 1992 and April, 1999]]. His main tenure there was as MUF Wizard, and also as Character Creation. When not at home in Riss' Run, a quiet valley meadow up above Tug's place, he could usually be found in WCOTP tossing people into the pond. One of his lasting creations was the coding of the "RIDE" global that for the first time let Muck users carry other users around with them. Riss coded a number of other "W" globals as well including WhoSpe.

The character name '''Riss''' was really an unintentional misspelling of a character name in a [[Wikipedia:Mercedes_Lackey|Mercedes Lackey]] book [[Wikipedia:Winds_of_Fury|Winds of Fury]] wherein his friend Mercedes had named a Kyree character '''Rris''' for Ch'''ris'''. However he had not seen it in print yet at the time he joined FurryMuck, and needing a somewhat fantasy name, entered '''Riss'''. The rest, shall we say, is FurryMuck history.

==''Barr Wars''==
In 1989, Chris released the first of two collected issues of an artist jam that was known as ''[[Barr Wars]]''.<ref>[http://www.centaur.org/barrwars1/bw1p01.htm ''Barr Wars'' page] on Chris' personal website. Retrieved September 24, 2011</ref> This hilarious mashup between a number of well known and amatur Furry artsists dragged on for years! Chris had come to know a good deal of professional and amatur artists from going to various Sci-Fi Conventions, and in some cases rep'ing the artists work at the art shows.
[[Wikipedia:Donna_Barr|Donna Barr]] one of the primary instigators of Barr Wars, also used Chris as a model in one of her productions. The Mute Radio Man in the [[Wikipedia:The_Desert_Peach|The Desert Peach]] is based on Chris. It is left to the readers research to find out why the Mute Radio Man is always seen carrying around a small stuffed Dinosaur.

==References==
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==External links==
* [http://www.centaur.org/ centaur.org] (personal website)
* [http://twitter.com/#!/rriscentaur Rris Centaur] (sic) on [[Twitter]]

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Chris Dunn

2013-05-31T22:21:48Z

Rris:

Chris Dunn

2013-05-31T22:21:15Z

Rris: