WikiFur - User contributions [en]

Rarakie

2013-11-04T05:46:21Z

Not-my-username: /* Controversy */ back in business

'''Rarakie''' is an [[artist]] and [[fursuit]] maker. She lives in New Zealand and does furry art as a full time living. She made fursuits under the name '''FurGen Studios''', before shutting up shop in July, 2012.<ref>[http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/3629374/ "Shutting up shop!"] - posting on the FurGen Studios account on [[Fur Affinity]]. Dated July 6, 2012. Retrieved July 3, 2013.</ref>

== Fursona ==

Rarakie's [[fursona]] is a dog/bird hybrid with interchangeable [[horn]]s or antlers. She gives free range to artists drawing her character to decide what horns they want to draw.

==Controversy==
In March, 2013, it was discovered that Rarakie was using photographs pulled from the internet as backgrounds in her artwork, running a filter over them to make them look like digital paintings.<ref>[http://furrydrama-2.livejournal.com/314123.html "Rarakie Using Photos As Backgrounds/Plagiarizing"] - thread on the {{lj-comm|furrydrama-2}} community on [[LiveJournal]]. Dated March 11, 2013. Retrieved July 3, 2013.</ref> This was in violation of the TOS of [[Fur Affinity]] (where she hosted her art, and which requires referenced images to be credited).

Rarakie subsequently deleted the content of her Fur Affinity account and changed her profile to read "I will not be uploading to this account again."<ref>[http://www.furaffinity.net/user/rarakie/ Rarakie's profile] on Fur Affinity. Retrieved July 3, 2013.</ref> On July 22, 2013, she began uploading new art to the account.<ref>[http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/4869336/ "Hey everyone"] - Dated July 22, 2013. Retrieved November 3, 2013.</ref>

==References==
<references/>

== External links ==
{{Contributor|Rarakie}}
* [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/rarakie/ Rarakie] on [[Fur Affinity]]
* [http://rarakie.deviantart.com/ Rarakie] on [[deviantART]]
* [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/furgenstudios FurGen Studios] on Fur Affinity (suspended)
* [https://www.weasyl.com/profile/rarakie Rarakie] on [[Weasyl]]
* [https://inkbunny.net/rarakie Rarakie] on [[Inkbunny]]

{{person-stub}}
[[Category:People]]
[[Category:Artists]]
[[Category:Fursuit makers]]
[[Category:New Zealand]]

Talk:Pornography

2013-10-07T00:19:31Z

Not-my-username: added Legality section

{{FAC}}

Hmm, should the "Pornography in furry fandom" section of [[Pornography]] be moved to [[Furotica]] ? --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 06:25, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

:Some people might disagree with something's clasification as one but agree with the other. Is a painting of a nude fox erotic, or pornographic, or both? --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]<sup>([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])</sup> 15:39, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
:::"Pornography": Any piece you lose interest in as soon as you orgasm. [[User:733|733]]
:::: Heh. That's a bit blunt, but basically true, I think. --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 21:06, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

As a point of thought -- why this particular picture to describe pornography? Why a picture at all? I don't think I agree with it... --[[User:IanKeith|IanKeith]] 22:35, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
:It was under a free license and near the top of the category gallery. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 04:39, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
== Re: Possible nomination for Featured Page ==

I just can't bring myself to agree with this. It's also definitely not something I want splattered on the front page. Surely we have better articles to feature? --[[User:IanKeith|IanKeith]] 22:35, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

:So find them, improve them, [[WikiFur:Featured article candidates|nominate them]]. And put your comments for this on the feature nomination, as linked in the header. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]<sup>([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])</sup> 04:06, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

==Picture==
Without trying to be too overly blunt, this picture is crap, and is a horrible reference for the entire scope of furry pornography, I suggest getting a random pic off of Fchan, or a random one off of the /c/ board and using it instead (because they are not protected under a specific license on that site) I think it would benefit the page as a whole... {{unsigned|65.191.158.15}}
: I agree, hyper pandess isn't all that hot and a too specific fetish for a general description of porn. {{unsigned|91.96.46.121}}
::I'm not attached to any particular picture being used on this art. But no, pics off an image board aren't free to use. Artists do not give up their copyright unless they explicitly state so. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 10:45, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

== Where can I view non-gay furry porn? ==

Hi, I'm interested in furry porn. Where can I get decent porn as a heterosexual male? --[[Special:Contributions/93.223.27.40|93.223.27.40]] 12:48, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
:I don't even... *shudder* --[[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 15:08, 17 May 2011 (EDT)
:Not really the place to be asking this, but if you go to e621 and search "female," that should work ~~

== Notability? ==

Wouldn't '''Furotica''' (furry term) supersede [[Pornography]] (mainstream term) in article standing?. Just musing (eh, it works) - [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 03:08, 18 May 2013 (EDT)

== Legality ==

I deleted this sentences from the Legality section: "In the United States the Miller Test would classify yiff as having "artistic value" therefore making it a legal form of pornography." because it misinterprets the Miller test. A work of pornorgraphy would have to be (1) very well-drawn or (2) very well-written (i.e. more than just an "excuse plot") to pass. Most pornography you see on the Internet (fur or skin) does not pass and is considered obscene by the U.S. govt, occupying a space of legal ambiguity that is generally not enforced either way. I'm not sure about any other countries. Does anyone have any insight or sources about the legality of yiff or porn in general? [[User:Not-my-username|Not-my-username]] 20:19, 6 October 2013 (EDT)

Pornography

2013-10-07T00:18:45Z

Not-my-username: /* Legality */ added sentence about cub, deleted reference to Miller test

{{cleanup}}
{{Unreferenced}}
'''Pornography''' (abbreviation: '''Porn'''. Also known as '''Pron''', '''Pr0n''' or '''P0rn''') is a word commonly used to describe sexually explicit imagery in artwork, photography, film, and writing. In its original definition, it meant "writing about [[wikipedia:prostitute|prostitute]]s" and was derived from the ancient Greek term for a writer who chronicled the lives of prostitutes. The word was first used in English in the 18th century.

The exact scope of what is called pornography is not well-defined: some people would classify all nude figures as pornography, while others only consider photographed or filmed sex acts pornography. Most people take a more moderate approach, considering the intent along with the content of the work. A common method for deciding if a work is pornographic ("obscene") is the [[wikipedia:Miller test|Miller test]].

== Pornography and furry ==

Within the [[furry fandom]], most explicit artistic or written depictions of sexual acts are considered "pornography", and such material is common and, by most part, freely available. Images or descriptions of single characters or groups of characters not explicitly engaging in sex acts but prominently displaying sexual organs (especially in a state of arousal) are also often considered pornographic. Pornography featuring [[furry]] characters is called '''furry porn''', '''adult furry material''', or '''[[yiff]] art'''.

There are a wide variety of online furry art and writing archives (both free and paysite based) that offer pornographic art and stories to the public, such as the [[VCL]], and [[Fur Affinity]]. Some, such as [[U18Chan|U-18Chan]], [[Fchan]], [[SoFurry]], [[PlayMouse]] and the [[Yiff Image Board]] are specifically intended for the showcasing of "furry porn." Age-restricted areas are popular in furry [[MUCK]]s,{{fact}} and the first adults-only furry MUCK, [[Tapestries MUCK]], is the most popular furry MUCK by attendance.{{fact}} Similarly, [[Furrabian Nights (Furcadia)|Furrabian Nights]] is one of the most popular areas in [[Furcadia]],{{fact}} and mature themes areas are common in various furry themed [[Island (Second Life)|sim]]s on [[Second Life]].

== Furry porn's sexuality and content ==
==== Sexual leanings ====

Furry pornography is often [[stereotype]]d as [[homosexual]] in nature. This is not always the case, though the percentage of [[bisexual]] or homosexual furries appears to be higher than that in the general population. A detailed survey<ref>[http://www.tevildo.com/FAEStatistics.htm Tevildo's "fur.artwork.erotica" Statistics Page]</ref> by [[Tevildo]] of postings to the [[Furrynet|fur.artwork.erotica]] newsgroup between April and December 2001 revealed 45.6% of pictures to be "gay" themed and 48.9% to be "straight" ([[Wikipedia:heterosexual|heterosexual]]) themed.

==== Sex and species ====

Furry pornography commonly depicts [[species]] popular among the furry fandom, as many furry porn artists enjoy depicting their own personal [[fursona]]s in sexual activity,{{fact}} either with a fantasy mate or the fursona of a person to whom they are attracted in real life. Some pornographic artists draw generic characters as well, though these are usually species chosen for their sexual characteristics or stereotyped promiscuity, such as [[fox]]es, [[wolves]], and [[horse]]s.

==== Subject matter ====

[[Fetish]] imagery catering to various [[:Category:Paraphilias|paraphilias]] seems to appear with significant frequency in furry porn. [[BDSM]], [[Vorarephilia|vore]], [[pregfur|pregnancy fetish]], [[fursuit sex|costume play]], [[babyfur|infantilism]], [[inflatophilia|inflation]], [[Wikipedia:rape fantasy|rape fantasy]], and other fetishes are often depicted in furry pornography, though the characters engaging in these fetishes are invariably [[anthropomorphic]] animals. [[Transformation]], in which humans turn into animals or furries transform into a different type of furry, is also popular in furry porn and regular furry art alike.

Most of these fetishes are not specific to the furry fandom, but merely furry expressions of them. While fetish porn is frequently attested to be unusually common in furry fandom — one of the complaints of the [[Burned Furs]] was its perceived popularity — it is, again, impossible to obtain a precise percentage of fetish pornography compared to other forms of furry pornography.

== Controversy ==

Often, members of the fandom and critics alike speculate that adult content makes up the majority of the fandom. The opposite point of view, voiced particularly in [[2 Sense]] shows, claims that this is caused by the [[Wikipedia:cognitive bias|cognitive bias]]: since pornography is not [[Wikipedia:taboo|tabooed]] in the [[furry community]], its relative percentage may be even smaller than in the [[mundane]] world, but the fact that it gets more exposure makes it appear to be a larger chunk.{{fact}}

No scientifically credible estimates of the exact ratio of pornographic content to family-friendly content in the furry community exist to date. A rough estimate from [[convention]]s which allow adult content in such activities as [[art show]]s and [[charity auction]]s and auction sites such as [[FurBid-SF]] suggest a proportion of 25-40%, with a higher proportion of mature [[:Category:Publications|publications]] and 2D artwork than sculpture and other constructed art.{{fact}}

[[Fur Affinity]], arguably the largest furry art site, published monthly statistics up until 2009 ([http://community.livejournal.com FA LiveJournal]) which consistently showed clean artwork outnumbered pornographic artwork by orders of magnitude.

== Legality ==
There are no laws which specifically reference pornography containing anthropomorphic characters most likely due to its recent appearance. Some jurisdictions have laws regarding bestiality and extreme pornography which could be applied in court to convict anyone possessing 'furry porn', but there is no precedent for this. A case in Wales involved a 47-year-old man accused of transmitting obscene porn involving [[Tony the Tiger]]. The case was dropped when the procurator discovered that the clip was considered 'humour' instead of being entirely pornographic material<ref> [http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/22/six_second_clip/ theregister.co.uk, "Man could face prison over six second 'extreme porn' clip"]</ref>. [[Cub#Legal issues regarding cub media|Cub]] pornography (depicting furry children) may be classified as child pornography by some governments; however, this is also legally ambiguous.

==Furotica==
'''Furotica''', also known as [[furry]] [[Wikipedia:erotica|erotica]] or furry [[pornography]], is a term for sexually explicit or sexually suggestive art and stories featuring [[anthropomorphic]] [[animal]] characters.

The term is ambiguous in the sense that it is unclear whether it applies strictly to the creations of [[writer]]s and [[artist]]s within the [[furry fandom]], or whether it could plausibly include such cases from outside the fandom as the [[Greek myth]] of Leda and the [[swan]] (in which the god Zeus transforms himself into a magnificent [[bird]] for the sole purpose of engaging in sexual intercourse with a mortal woman). Furthermore, if sexually suggestive pin-up drawings of furry characters fall into the furotica category, this raises questions about how some images could possibly escape that categorization: [[Minerva Mink]]'s vampy routine on the children's show [[Animaniacs]], for example, or [[Bugs Bunny]]'s highly suggestive behavior in his many onscreen appearances in drag.

Furotica comprises a large percentage of all furry art. This has led to many non-furries' first interaction with the fandom being an encounter with sexual material of varying quality and content. This interaction, sometimes called "squicking the [[mundanes]]" (a phrase also in use among [[science fiction]]/[[fantasy]] fans, and not just for erotica) is considered to be a prank of sorts, but most often the mundane simply stumbles across furotica while seeking something else.

Furry erotica is not thought well of by some outside the fandom itself. In [[The Geek Hierarchy]], Erotic Furries (sic) are ranked just below Furries as a whole, and just above "[[Star Trek]] [[fanfic]], written as furry erotica, with Kirk as an ocelot (or something), and the author being the star and his own personal furry as well."

The definitions of erotica and pornography hinge upon our notions of arousal, taste, the beautiful, the grotesque, and the disgusting; and furotica, as a concept and as an array of artistic creations, is ripe for serious analysis, criticism, and debate. This is not to forget that its primary purpose is of course enjoyment.

== References ==
<references />

== See also ==

* [[Furry art]], the wider media genre of which furry porn is a subgenera
* [[Wikipedia:Pornography|Pornography]] on [[Wikipedia]]

[[Category:Arts and crafts]]

[[es:Pornografía]]

Talk:CubAffinity

2013-10-06T23:36:33Z

Not-my-username: Does not exist

== Hoax? ==

Or something that won't touch with a ten foot pole? - [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 12:22, 28 August 2011 (EDT)

== Diff ==

Worth noting for cleanup: http://en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=CubAffinity&diff=356173&oldid=345200 was an edit that removed various things. -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 00:19, 20 February 2012 (EST)

== Does not exist ==

I'm not really sure what the criteria for creation/deletion of articles are... but cubAffinity never happened. Should this article be deleted on these grounds or not? [[User:Not-my-username|Not-my-username]] 19:36, 6 October 2013 (EDT)

CubAffinity

2013-10-06T23:29:58Z

Not-my-username: grammar and clarity. I also changed diction to reflect that cubAffinity does not exist.

{{cleanup}}
{{unref}}
{{Infobox website
| title = Cubaffinity
| image = [[File:CUBA.jpg|250px]]
| author = ?
* '''Site Founder:''' ?
* '''Admins''': ?
| url = http://www.cubaffinity.net/
| status =
| began = 2010
| ended =
| genre = social networking and art site
| rating = {{Rating-nc17-button}}
}}
'''cubAffinity''' was a proposed website meant to serve as an art site and social networking hub for the [[cub|cubfur]] and littlefur subculture of the furry fandom as well as the furry friendly segment of the "Littles" community.

Some controversy exists because a fair number of individuals believe that the site was created as a direct reaction to Fur Affinity's November 24, 2010, ban on cub art with adult themes. However,

1. The cubaffinity user account on [[Fur Affinity]] was created on November 21st, 2009 04:48.

2. The domain name for cubAffinity.net was registered/purchased at GoDaddy on 11-25-09.

3. Trial run sites where attempted on ning and grou.ps no less than 6 months and safely no more than 9 months prior to Fur Affinities ban on cub porn. See cubaffinity.ning.com and cubafinity.grou.ps.

4. Agreements for the site to be run on the servers that still host it were finalized the evening of November 13th into the morning hours of the 14th, 10 days prior to Fur Affinity's announcement concerning the change in TOS concerning cub porn.

In a November 2010 post to cubAffinity, [[bosspup]] describes
{{q|cubAffinity is not attempting to compete with FurAffinity, we aim to be a generally small focused community of individuals who identify with being “cub” furs or individuals who hold some degree of fondness for “cubs”. As such this is neither a site to be used by those who wish only to utilize the site for general entertainment nor the general furry fandom. All participants in our community must be a cub or someone who enjoys their presence and / or somehow directly supports the community / sub-culture.<ref>[http://cubaffinity.net/?q=node/1 Welcome to cub Affinity.] Retrieved August 28, 2011.</ref>}}

Although cubAffinity announced that its grand opening was supposed to be about a year ago, as of October 6, 2013, they have not reached operational status.

Although between Nov 2010 and Feb 2011 cubAffinity received over 200 account requests, most Fur Affinity members affected by the ban on cub porn actually remained on Fur Affinity, and there was a notable exodus that migrated to [[InkBunny]] or remained on FA and opened up an account on IB.

== References ==
<references />

== External links ==

*User [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/cubaffinity/ ''cubAffinity''] on [[Fur Affinity]]
*[http://www.youtube.com/user/cubaffinity cubAffinity's channel] on YouTube
*[http://twitter.com/#!/cubAffinity cubAffinity] on Twitter
*[https://profiles.google.com/cubaffinity#cubaffinity/about cubAffinity] on Google Profile
*[http://www.aboutus.org/CubAffinity.net cubAffinity] on AboutUs.net

{{Media archives}}

[[Category:Social networking websites]]
[[Category:Mature art archives]]
[[Category:Mature story archives]]
[[Category:2010 births]]

Rowrbrazzle

2013-08-06T06:34:29Z

Not-my-username: fixing a link

{{unref}}
[[Image:RowrBrazzle-17.jpg|thumb|right|Rowrbrazzle #17. Cover art by [[Mike Kazaleh]]]]
'''''Rowrbrazzle''''', also known as '''''Brazzle''''', is an [[wikipedia:amateur press association|amateur press association]] (APA) magazine devoted to [[wikipedia:funny animals|funny animal]] cartoon illustration, that for a long time was a bulwark for [[furry fandom]]. The word is a misspelling of "rowrbazzle!", an exclamation used at times by the characters in [[wikipedia:Walt Kelly|Walt Kelly's]] comic-strip "[[wikipedia:Pogo_(comic_strip)|Pogo]]".

==History==
''Rowrbrazzle'' was co-created by [[Marc Schirmeister]] and [[John Cawley]] in 1983 as a result of the cessation of its predecessor, ''[[Vootie]]'', with the first issue being distributed to its first contributors in February 1984. [[Fred Patten]] took over as an official editor five years later, and as served in this position for the last 17 years, until he had to step down in 2005 due to illness. [[Mike Curtis]], [[Edd Vick]], [[Michael Susko]] and others served as interim editors until the new permanent editor, [[William Earl Haskell]] was found.

The first issue was distributed to the association membership in February 1984. It is still published quarterly as of 2012, with the 113th issue having cover date of April 2012.<ref>[https://www.second-ed.com/detail.cfm?ID=rowr106&storeid=1 ROWRBRAZZLE. #106 (2010) (1 copy left)] at [[Second Ed Mailorder]] website. Retrieved 2012 January 21.</ref> Rowrbrazzle is always looking for new members. Furry [[writer]]s, [[artist]]s, or journalists are invited to contact Haskell or any of the interim editors.

==Significance==

[[Fred Patten]], onetime editor of ''Rowrbrazzle'', had this view of 'Brazzle's significance:
{{q|My thesis is that furry fandom coalesced out of sf fandom and comics fandom, blending elements from both of them and achieving its own critical mass in 1983/1984. The first clear signs of the independent furry fandom were the creation of its first apa, Rowrbrazzle, and the decision by some fans to self-publish furry comic books because there seemed to be enough fans of stories with talking animals to support them (as distinct from earlier attempts to self-publish comics which had to hope for sufficient sales from the general public alone.)
...
Rowrbrazzle started in February 1984. Since it was specifically an apa for writing and drawing funny animals as a genre and discussing the new fandom that was forming about them, it is a handy landmark to say that "furry fandom existed at this time"[http://replay.web.archive.org/20090228194647/http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/mglyer/club/page2.html]}}

== Known members ==
{{main|List of members of Rowrbrazzle}}

==See also==
* [[List of Rowrbrazzle issues]]
* [[Wikipedia:Rowrbrazzle|Rowrbrazzle]] on [[Wikipedia]]

==References==
<references />

==External links==
===Primary sources===
*''[http://www.rootoon.com/rb/ Rootoon.com]'' sample of pages by contributor Timothy Fay.
*[http://www.snowbuni.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1160968822 "Rowrbrazzle Lives!"] message board thread from ''[http://www.snowbuni.com/ SnowBuni.com]''
===Secondary sources===
*[http://web.archive.org/web/20090228194647/http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/mglyer/club/page2.html ''File 770'' Issue 127, November 1998] - section about Fred Patten, "The Fur Frontier", archived 2009 Feburary 28 by Internet Archive Wayback Machine
*[http://www.nnseek.com/e/fur.misc/furry_semi_faq_21884116m.html#21884116 Furry Semi-FAQ at '''''nnseek''''']

===Booksellers===
*[http://www.milehighcomics.com/comicindex/Title-ROWRBRAZZLE--1983--by-Independents--All.html ''Rowrbrazzle'' at Mile High Comics]

{{Rowrbrazzle}}
{{Fanzines and APAs}}

[[Category:Amateur press associations]]
[[Category:Fanzines]]
[[Category:1983 births]]
{{Wikipedia|Rowrbrazzle}}

[[es:Rowrbrazzle]]
[[ru:Rowrbrazzle]]

Sci-fi and anime fandom gets 'furry'

2013-07-09T00:15:52Z

Not-my-username: fixed link to Reveille article

[[File:Lsureveille.com logo.png|right|300px]]
'''Sci-fi and anime fandom gets 'furry'''' is an October 2011 piece which focuses on the [[Louisiana Furs]].

The piece, by Haylie Navarre, opens:
{{q|For many years, fans of sci-fi and anime have dressed in costumes depicting their favorite characters for conventions, but one increasingly popular fandom is getting a bit hairy.}}

[[Angela Balis]] and [[Michael Brown]] (Darkmayne), both sophomores at LSU, are quoted.

== External links ==

* http://www.lsureveille.com/entertainment/article_d30cb91b-c42a-5649-aec6-a8a56868940b.html

{{mediac-stub}}

[[Category:Media coverage]]

Talk:Furspeech

2013-06-24T20:53:26Z

Not-my-username:

This is one of those jokes that people take far too seriously and which develops a creepy life of its own, right?

. . . right?

''*crickets chirp*''

<nowiki>;-)</nowiki> --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 05:09, 4 Oct 2005 (UTC)

-Holy Christ, I sure hope so. :/

-2013 checking in. Only like half of these terms caught on, and only because they're useful words that make sense, like "fursona" and "popufur."--[[User:Not-my-username|Not-my-username]] 16:53, 24 June 2013 (EDT)

Alt.fan.furry

2013-05-30T06:34:29Z

Not-my-username: typo fixed: 21st century

{{cleanup}}
{{context}}
{{lowercase}}
'''alt.fan.furry''', also known as '''a.f.f.''' or '''AFF''', is a [[:Category:Newsgroups|newsgroup]] for [[furry|furries]] to gather and discuss various topics revolving around the politics of the [[fandom]]. Once the number one [[furry]] news source, as time passed it became infamous for its collection of massive [[Wikipedia:flamewar|flamewars]], political and otherwise. By the turn of the 21st century, its use as dwindled to a handful of monthly posts, now overrun mostly by [[W:Spam (electronic)|spam]] posts in open [[Usenet]] servers.

It still remains the most accurate place for historical information resources regarding the [[history]] of [[furry fandom]].

== History ==

alt.fan.furry has had a long and convoluted Usenet history. Originally created after [[Albedo]] fans gathered in [[alt.birthright]], only to discover it was not a group for fans of the [[Birthright]] series by [[Steve Gallacci]].

Several suggestions were made for a separate [[funny animal]] [[comic]] group, and [[Peter da Silva]] created one in November of 1990 under the name alt.fan.albedo. The initial message<ref>[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.furry/browse_thread/thread/8da5256d39f30311/9760c60384824144#9760c60384824144 ''creation of alt.fan.furry''] post on alt.fan.furry (retrieved ?)</ref> on a.f.a. reads:
{{q|This group is for discussion of funny animal comic books, such as Albedo, Critters, and Quack!. This group was created after a funny-animal discussion started in alt.birthright. Hopefully someone will let the furry mailing list know}}
At that time, [[Albedo]] was suffering from extremely infrequent publication and [[Critters]] was already defunct, and several people suggested that alt.fan.furry would be a better group name. The term [[furry]] was already beginning to supersede ''funny animal'' in various fandom [[mailing list]]s.

alt.fan.furry had been suggested before the creation of a.f.a but was not preferred by Mr. de Silva. [[Tzoq]] created alt.fan.furry proper about a month later, partially due to low postings in a.f.a.

Some of the posters on alt.fan.albedo in that one month interim were [[greymuzzle]]s such as [[Jimmy Chin]], [[mejeep]], and [[Uncle Kage]].

alt.fan.furry later spun off other furry newsgroups, the most notable of which being [[alt.lifestyle.furry]].

== References ==
<references />

== See also ==

* [[Rec.arts.furry]]
* [[Furrynet]]

== External links ==

* [http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.fan.furry alt.fan.furry] on [http://groups-beta.google.com/ Google Groups]
* [http://www.faqs.org/faqs/furry/faq/ alt.fan.furry] FAQ on [http://www.faqs.org/ Faqs.org]

[[Category: Newsgroups]]
[[Category:1990 births]]

[[es:alt.fan.furry]]

Bastian

2013-05-23T19:45:24Z

Not-my-username: Added BastianWolf

'''Bastian''' could refer to:

* '''[[Bastian Tiger]]''', the [[tiger]] [[fursuiter]].
* '''[[Sebastian Blackcat]]''', the primary [[fursona]] and alter-ego of [[furry artist]] '''Jeff Cordova'''.
* BastianWolf, a furry [[pornography|pornographic]] artist.

{{disambig}}