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Dktorzi

2014-09-13T02:50:11Z

Naros: Cookie linked to an other person's character named Cookie, so removed link for now.

'''Dktorzi''' aka '''DK_L''', or '''Jkal''', is a Portuguese [[comic book]] artist.

His art has been featured on various American comic titles such as ''[[Hit the Beach]]'', ''[[Genus]]'', ''[[Genus Male]]'', ''[[Extinctioners]]'' Annual, ''[[Gold Digger]]'' Swimsuit and some Japanese doujinshi, such as ''Beastmania''.

His works are usually available on CDs that can be bought from him on-line and at furry [[conventions]] hosted in the United States, including [[Further Confusion]] and [[Anthrocon]]; and in Europe at [[Eurofurence]].

His favorite [[character]] is Cookie (a short, chubby, multi-breasted [[snow leopard]]). His signature character is a [[Rangwolf]], a small hybrid critter of a [[wolf]], [[cat]] and a [[dragon]].

{{Person-stub}}

== External links ==

* [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/dktorzi/ Dktorzi] at [[Fur Affinity]]
* [http://doctorzi.deviantart.com/ Dktorzi] at [[DeviantART]]
* [http://www.hentai-foundry.com/user/Jkal/profile Dktorzi] at Hentai Foundry

[[Category:People]][[Category:Comic artists]][[Category:Portugal]]

Con Crud

2014-08-25T21:25:03Z

Naros: /* Causes */ Changed the example's locales from two provinces in one country to two random countries in different continents, because the world is large, and not confined to the USA :P

[[Image:GR FC2007 Soap and Water.jpg|thumb|right|160px|[[Aloha Fox]] promotes a good way to prevent Con Crud]]
'''Con Crud''', also known as '''The Blorch''', is normally a [[Wikipedia:Common cold|cold]], [[Wikipedia:Flu|flu]], or other non-threatening illness that people catch and/or spread quickly through [[furry conventions]], and which is mostly felt after the con is over, when said illnesses has reached peak incubation time. Oftentimes, the larger the convention is, the worse con crud becomes.

Con Crud should not be confused with the term [[Con Funk]], although "con funk" and unsanitary conditions can contribute to it.

== Causes ==

This is because of the variations of immunities from various geographical locales. Fur A from Canada may not have the level of immunity for the common cold that Fur B from The Netherlands has, and so they're more susceptible to Fur B's germs, and vice versa.

== Prevention ==

Most con-goers recommend bringing over the counter medicine and/or plenty of vitamins. Good hygiene is also an extremely good idea.

== Further definition ==

The [[Furry Dictionary]] lists "Blorch" as:
{{q|A vagely flu-like illness that has a tendency to flourish and spread at large furry fandom gatherings such as conventions. Symptoms can vary, making the identification of the culprit micro-organism very difficult. It can also be exacerbated by immune system stressors such as lack of sleep from room-partying and dehydration from airline travel}}
This definition was contributed by [[Sean Wilkinson]] in 2000.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20090216003500/http://cloudchasershaconage.furtopia.org/furrydef.txt Furry Dictionary] by [[Cloudchaser Shaconage]]. (Retrieved June 14, 2007)</ref>

== See also ==

* [[Post-con depression]]

== References ==
<references/>

[[Category:Convention terms]]

User talk:Frizzy

2006-09-18T14:38:24Z

Naros: EF 4

Hi there, Frizzy, and welcome to WikiFur! Thank you for your additions to [[Cutey Bunny]] - [[User talk:GreenReaper|let me know]] if you need any [[help]] not already provided. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 14:13, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

== Blue Forest Characters ==

Hi there. There's no need to recreate the incorrectly capitalized category Blue Forest Characters. Despite what the Special:Wanted pages seems to think, there is nothing linking to it any longer. (I fixed 'em!) I'm going to nix Blue Forest Characters and pop the Blue Forest template into more articles while I'm at it. -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 18:48, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

:Blue Forest Characters has, happily, vanished from Wanted categories. I'm not sure if that's because of it existing again for a little or if re-editing the articles helped or what, but I guess that doesn't matter. The different capitalizations of Blue Forest as a template seem to be redirects. Not sure if that's related either. All very mysterious! -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 21:42, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

==To Stub or Not to Stub?==
Is there a guideline as to when a short article (which just doesn't have much to say) doesn't need to be tagged as a stub? 1000 bytes, etc.? Wouldn't stop anyone from dropping in to make changes anyway. Just curious. --[[User:Frizzy|Frizzy]] 23:11, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

:I usually go by the rule of whether I feel there's anything that ought to be added (but that I'm not sure about or don't know or don't feel like putting in right now). -- [[User:Siege|Siege]]([[User talk:Siege|talk]]) 05:02, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

:The general rule is "if there is probably something that could be added fairly easily by someone who doesn't know much about the topic" (say with a few minutes of google searching) then it is a stub. If not, then it is not a stub, although if you can describe it entirely in a couple of lines, it is probably a strong candidate for merging with another article. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 08:05, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

==Categorization?==
Thanks for the quick feedback! I was looking through WikiFur's [[:Help:Furry_Book_of_Style|style guide]] and had another question: Are there any guidelines on category order at the end of articles? I was going through alphabetically, but it might be helpful to define this in the style guide if there's a prefered order to doing this. --[[User:Frizzy|Frizzy]] 19:10, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

:Technically any order is fine. In practice, for articles about people I've tended to do People and then subcategories of People (note that we only do this category + subcategory thing with people so as to get a full listing in that category), and then their location and year of birth/death. In general I would put the most important or relevant category first, but that's just a personal style. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 20:45, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

==Great work!==
By the way, in case it hasn't been mentioned elsewhere, thanks for all of the great work you've been doing in cleaning things up around here. Now that we're out of the "insane growth" stage, there's quite a bit of mopping up to do, and the edits you've made are much appreciated!----[[User:DuncanDaHusky|DuncanDaHusky]]([[User talk:DuncanDaHusky|talk]]) 12:16, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

:Thank you! =^_^= --[[User:Frizzy|Frizzy]] 18:03, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

:Indeed. Don't think those edits over at [[List of furry convention resources]] have gone unnoticed. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 06:13, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

==Vandalism and previously reverted nice comment==
Sorry about not signing in when I left my other comment earlier (the nice one posted before it was edited by the vandal) [[User:DeVandalizer|DeVandalizer]] 05:56, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

==Welcome to [[WikiFur:Administrators]]!==
I noticed you were having to do a lot of reversion there. Here's a few extra powers to make things a little easier. Be sure to visit the links in the above page to see how to use them if you've not had sysop access on a wiki before (the [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Administration#Rollback bot rollback feature] is particularly useful). Remember you can always come onto IRC for more help. Enjoy! :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 16:17, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

== Patrolled edits ==

You can automatically mark edits that you make as patrolled by going into "preferences", and under the "Editing" section, checking the box "Mark edits I make as patrolled". --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 18:22, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

== EF 4 ==

I realise my entry for EF4 wasn't any good, but I figured it was better than no entry at all.

And I didn't want Samarindus' tremendous efforts to be forgotten... :)

Eurofurence 4

2006-09-17T17:32:45Z

Naros:

Eurofurence was saved by Samarindus, when it became clear no one was going to organize Eurofurence 4.

Together with Naros he found a nice location for the con in Heeze, the Netherlands.
Samarindus did far too much work himself, and used his own money to partially pay for the con.

Thanks, dude. You rock.

User talk:GreenReaper

2006-09-17T16:10:27Z

Naros:

{{User talk:GreenReaper/Header}}

== Welcome Response September 12, 2006 ==

Thank you, GreenReaper. I kinda stumbled across this site yesterday and decided to 1. Create an account and 2. Make my page. I was quite flattered to find my name listed in the DJ section of Rainbow Tiger's page, so I got my hooves wet and started a personal page. I'll try to keep it rated PG, but we'll have to see what happens. I'll have a placeholder up for a while with many ... many edits while I figure out the syntax.

[[Heuvadoches Naumova]]

== Welcome response ==

You're welcome! I'll be sure to let you know if I need any help. =^.^= -[[User:Alfador|Alfador]]

== [[PAINWOLF]] ==
Name painwolf I need to talk to about my page.

Contact Info:
Yahoo and AIM: NL4PAINWOLF
MSN: PAINWOLF@hotmail.com

E-mails: PAINWOLF@gmail.com

:''Replied'' --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 02:58, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

== Norn ==

Ok, so i guess the question is, why is there a norn running around on the furry edit link ... it seems to hide if I try to interact directly. Do you have more info? -- [[User:Mongoose|Amar Shadowpaws]] 14:25, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

:I think his name is Hebe. He followed me over from the [[w:c:Creatures|Creatures Wiki]]. I've not had the time to catch him and release him back into [[w:c:Creatures:Albia|the wild]] yet. Besides, he likes to help out - he's done a good job at finishing off the stubs people leave around. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 18:04, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

==Thanks for coming to lunch ==

Here are my [http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Wikimania_Notes notes] from our lunch. We will start working hard to get more information out on where the features and bug fixes are going. I really appreciated your support and encouragement, not too mention chatting with you at dinner Thursday. [http://world.wikia.com/wiki/User:Gil Gil]| [http://world.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Gil talk]

==Response to Welcome==
Just wanna say thanks for the greeting, I'll be sure to ask if I need help with anything ;)

Thanks for greeting me. I had to make my own page look a little spiffier ya know? :D

==Thanks for cleaning up after me==
I've been multitasking, so I'm a little scatterbrained at the moment. =^_^!= --[[User:Frizzy|Frizzy]] 05:37, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

And me as well, thanks. Couldn't figure out why I couldn't get those wikipedia links working internally, o,O
--[[User:Animakitty|Anima]] 18:24, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

== Picture on commons ==
Your lecture was very interesting. I have one more picture of you. See:
*http://www.poli.toya.net.pl/Wikimania_2006_galeria/pages/100-0070_IMG.html
Fill free to copy it if you want.

Polimerek.

:Thanks again! I'll do that. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 20:39, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

== infoboxes ? ==

I copied [[Wikipedia:Template:Infobox Webcomic]] to [[Template:Infobox webcomic]] because I thought having webcomic infoboxes (such as the one at [[Wikipedia:Aozora]]) would be nice. The template partially works (example at [[User:EarthFurst]]). I'm guessing the rest of that template doesn't work because WikiFur doesn't have [[Template:If]] ? WP has [[Wikipedia:Template:If]]. --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 05:22, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

:According to [[User:Splarka|Splarka]], it's due to a problem with tables and parserfunctions on Wikia. He going to try fixing it . . . --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 05:34, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

::Hmm, the infobox was working beautifully at [[TwoKinds]], but doesn't seem to be working now. I've posted question to wikia's Help desk on the matter http://www.wikia.com/index.php?title=Forum:Wikia_hiccup_%3F&t=20060817035856 . I'm reverting [[TwoKinds]] until the error is resolved. I'll be re-checking [[User:EarthFurst]] to see when the infox starts working again. --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 05:03, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

== Did you know? ==

[[Rod O'Riley]]'s band [[Illegal Operation]] will be performing live as part of the furry programming track at this month's [[Worldcon]] in the Los Angeles area. Do you think it would be a reasonable use of the [[WikiFur:Did you know?|Did you know?]] box to add an entry for this to help draw attention to it? Thanks! --[[User:Frizzy|Frizzy]] 16:39, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

:Don't see why not. That whole section could do with a full update. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 16:56, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

::I just got some bad news that the concert event had to be cancelled due to issues out of their control, so I revised the entry. --[[User:Frizzy|Frizzy]] 05:33, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

== Featured article ==

It's fun to see that my bio is a Featured article now. That means both of my pages have gotten onto the front page.
[[User:Fox Cutter|Fox Cutter]] 21:45, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

:I know! This wasn't actually intentional - I only noticed after I featured it. It seemed to be a good pick, so it went up. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 21:52, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

== Hi there! ==

Thanks very much pal, if I need any help I know who to turn to now. ^^

- Eric B.

P.S. I'm sorry for posting this as an article, I really don't know how to respond to the comment you gave me. Well, maybe I need your help already. ^^;

== RVDDP2501 ==

Hey GreenReaper, Its been a while since I had last heard from you, hows things? Listen, I just wanted to say thanks for the reversion of the damaged done to one of my character pages, man, when will this stupidness stop, hope to hear from you - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 23:15, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

:Hi there. Things are good! The vandalism will continue, undoubtedly, to a greater or lesser extent, but we seem to be coping with it well enough. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 23:22, 23 August 2006 (UTC)''

::Hi GreenReaper, the upgrade was a pleasant surprise after that last bit of unpleasant business. Thanks! --[[User:Frizzy|Frizzy]] 04:06, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

== sorry for the previous post : ==

Sorry for the post, I just wanted to report a raid that was headed your way.
If i suspect a raid in the future where do you think i should report this too?
:I had to check the article history to find the post you were referring to. At a guess, it was probably mistaken for link spam, which we get here fairly often. We do appreciate the efforts of people to notify us of attacks in the offing. For future reference, it would be helpful to include a couple of sentences saying what is to be found at the link. (By the way, when I tried the link just now I got a 'Thread Not Found' error - whatver had been there is gone now.) --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 07:58, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

:Here is fine, although you could try the [[Forum:Index|forum]] as well. As for your post, someone else edited my user page to remove it, but I'd already read the thread before you posted it so that was OK. :-)

:We get a lot of people planning stuff, but half of them never show up, and the rest turn out only to have 5 people or so. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 16:24, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

== Incomming Raid Group!!! ==

[[Image:Wikifur.png|left|frame|This is the [[WikiFur]] logo!]]

Be On the lookout for the next few days please sir! --[[User:PaulRevere|PaulRevere]] 21:15, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

:It would be helpful if we had a link to the site where this came from so we could investigate further. --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 21:18, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

:Oh, DeusEx again? He's been working on that for a while, as I recall. I guess we'll see if anything comes of it. We've coped quite well so far with a full bot attack, even when it was using a network of 600 proxies.

:It's cute the way they seem to think using Í will stop google indexing their site, let alone the "totally inept" part. So far it's about 10-0 on successful "organized" raids. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 21:35, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

::That reminds me - did we ever implement a "panic button" - something any of the admins could use in an emergency to block all updates if a major vandalism/bot attack were in progress? If there is an easy way to protect the entire site to sysop only, that would probably suffice. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 21:43, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

:::Like a "Lock-down" script? [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 22:09, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

::::More like a "restrict edits to group X" script, though locking the DB might be a reasonable first step. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 22:17, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

:: You know, we need to write an app to have a [[User:Nidonocu#Score_Board|Score Board]] like what Nidonocu has. --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 21:45, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

::::I edit that manually you know. ;) Though I agree a panic page would be useful. --[[User:Nidonocu|Nidonocu]] - [[User talk:Nidonocu|talk]] [[Image:Trans 168.png|16px|Nidonocu]] 23:20, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

:::Oh Gods ^-^ or a [[Wikipedia:DHS|DHS]]'s like [[Wikipedia:Homeland_Security_Advisory_System|Security Advisory System]],... "Today's Threat Level is "Fluffy," with some chances of /b/tards in the afternoon." [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 22:09, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

== Removing a name on "People". ==

Hello there! i am Crowe Basalt, and previously, i did go by "Grimmutt". i edited an article on "Grimmutt", but, as i am going back to only using the "Crowe Basalt" name, i'd like to have "Grimmutt"'s page removed.

thank you! {{unsigned|Crowebasalt}}

:Hi there, Crowe, and welcome back to WikiFur! The best way to go about that is usually to move the article, as that preserves the original history. I will fix that up later tonight when I get home. Do you wish us to keep the information about your character Grimmutt as a separate section on the page about you, or should I remove it and just mention that you used to go by the name? --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 22:40, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

== Alternative to page protection ==

Hey, this is Carrie Pika.

Is there any way I can get this page locked so it shows only this? I don't want anyone adding personal information about me without my knowledge, so I'd like to have it left at just this.

Thanks~ {{unsigned|CarriePika}}

:We can probably do that. You could also just put your email into your [[Special:Preferences|user preferences]] and then click the Watch tab, so it will tell you whenever someone edits so that you can check it out. Which would you prefer? --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 23:35, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Oh, that'd work great, actually! I'll go ahead and do that. Thanks! {{unsigned|CarriePika}}

:Excellentage. Enjoy WikiFur. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 04:44, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

== And thanks to you. ==

I do appreciate the clean-up of my page, and the separation of the book summary. Many thanks! You guys do an amazing job here. - Alicia

:You're welcome. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 21:37, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

== something to be very angry ==

I wrote an article and someone, german wrote me this:

"Meine Fresse, ich hab noch nie so ein BESCHISSENES ENGLISCH gelesen. Kauf dir mal ein verdammtes Leben!!"

In a free translation it's:"Damn I've never read such a shitty english. Buy a damn life"
Well maybe my english isn't taht good but is it necessary to write the comment in this way? Without an name or anything else.

I think you're not able to find out who did it are you?

And so maybe you could delete my account and the article about me. because I don't want to be a part of something like this. Sorry and thanks for the chocolat. ^^ {{unsigned|Andraste}}

:That comment [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Andraste&action=history was made] by a person with the IP address [[User:89.48.235.195|89.48.235.195]]. They are obviously not a regular user, otherwise they would indeed have signed their comment - and made the edit with a registered account. That edit to the talk page was their [[Special:Contributions/89.48.235.195|only contribution so far]]. There is therefore little to say about them, other than that their IP address resolved to the name "Lebc3.l.pppool.de" - probably a dialup account in Germany.

:I would suggest you pay as much attention to you as someone who posts once on a forum anonymously to insult you, never having contributed to that forum before - that is, precisely no attention at all. If your English is not the best, so what? You are German! The fact that you can write English at all is better than most English people could do with German. If they thought the article was bad, the anonymous editor should have fixed it rather than complained about it. And, in fact, many others did. :-)

:In the last day [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Andraste&action=history several edits] by at least four other people have been made to the article about you (perhaps you made a link to it from somewhere else?). I would ask that you consider '''those''' edits to be an example of what WikiFur is, and not the anonymous commenter - who, I would note, could not even manage to put their ''own'' comment in English. We have [[WikiFur:No personal attacks|a policy against personal attacks]], and any regular contributor would know better than to make such a comment. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 17:59, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

== Recategorization of [[List of convention acronyms]] ==

I don't see why this fits better with [[:Category:Convention terms]] than [[:Category:Conventions]] when it seems to fit the Conventions cat just as well as [[List of furs who were married at a furry con]] or [[List of conventions by attendance]] (both of which are in [[:Category:Conventions]]), since like those two, its a sort of comparison/reference list between different conventions, as opposed to Category:Convention terms which seems to be a list of general terms used within a convention. --[[User:Chibiabos|Chibiabos]] 21:12, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

:OK. Change it back if you wish. My view was that an acronym was a convention term, but I can can see your side too. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 23:59, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

== Wikifur now adversarial? ==

I've read with interest the discussion on Sibe, specifically your comment:

''That is why I am opposed to the removal of the article in whole - because what he has done deserves remembering. It is our business, because Sibe has been bothering us as a community.''

Does this mean Wikifur will not be so much as a source of neutral information, but that Wikifur will now become adversarial in relations to information about people who you (singularly or collectively) believe have wronged Furry? Do you feel that it's now your job/right/reponsibility to punish these people by using Wikifur as a "bully pulpit"?

I hope this isn't the case. Wikifur, despite a healthy dose of pro-Furry slobbery, has been a respectable source of neutral information.

:You'd have to put that question to the wider community for a full answer, as it's a question about where they want WikiFur to go. I'm one of the editors leading the project, but there are others. Still, I can provide some explanation, and the answer I would give is basically "no, but we're not going to go out of our way to do such people any favours either."

:The information on the individuals itself ''should'' unquestionably be neutral and factual (no, this doesn't always happen, and if you see a problem, please explain why and fix it). The only choice we have been making in some cases is whether or not to ''remove'' that neutral information (or some of it) on request, per the [[WikiFur:Personal information|personal information policy]]. This might well ''not'' be a neutral decision, because this is a community made up of members of the furry fandom, and as it is our website it is up to us to decide whether or not that is appropriate. Ultimately our role is to serve the best interests of the fandom, and that generally means trying not to hurt those who are or have been worthwhile members of it. We may care less about the possibility of hurting other people.

:If a person is just a regular member of the fandom - maybe well-regarded, maybe just "one of the gang", then people tend not to fuss too much if they want to remove personal information - and if they have not really done all that much special, that might include the entire article about them (if not, then references to them might remain in other articles). If an individual has, over time, given the community a significant amount of grief, they are likely to say "no, this person is just trying to hide from the problems they have caused" and deny the request. In short, if they've had no respect for our community, then we as a community are likely to have as little respect for them. That is why exclusions that may be contentious go to talk pages - so that the community can decide what to do in that particular situation.

:These sorts of situation are fortunately pretty rare. In Sibe's case, though, his "bothering" was widely commented-on, were intimately connected to his person (not any external group), and occured over a long period of time. If WikiFur is recording furry history, it makes little sense to exclude him, particularly given that he has shown no reticence (or regret) on occasion over detailing the lives of others where it suited ''him''. We're perfectly aware that he doesn't like it being up there, but over time he's pissed off enough people in the fandom that few seem to care about what he feels anymore.

:The thing is, all we have to do is say the truth. His own actions are what comdemn him. We don't even need to say they were bad. If telling the truth about someone makes them look bad in the eyes of the reader, then it's a fair bet that they deserve it.

:This situation of information removal based on respect does not really apply to groups, whatever the standing of the group in the community. I would not support removing the history of the [[Burned Furs]], for example, or that of [[Sociopolitical Ramifications]], or [[FurryMUCK]], because these are important groups that have had a historical impact on the fandom. Maybe if it was a really small and personal group that hasn't . . . again, that'd be discussed on the appropriate talk pages.

One final question: why is it so common to list the real names of people who've had adversarial relations with furry but not with those individuals considered friendly to the fandom? Why are real names included at all?

:There might be various reasons for the inclusion of real names. For some people, their real name is just one item of information about them, such as the colour of their character's fur. Other people might not '''have''' nicknames that are well-known within the fandom (but really, this applies as much if not more to people "friendly to the fandom" as to others). In that case, it seems appropriate to use their real name, just as we tend to use the real name of artists that have used it as their identifier in the fandom.

:In some cases, there may have been a good reason to find out the real name of a person, particularly if it might allow members of the furry fandom to more easily identify a person who is using a variety of nicknames or even their real name in a different venue (we can't say "go look at Laurence's posts in forum X" without telling them who Laurence is). It might also be that people are just more inclined to include the real names of people that they don't like, in the hope that others outside the fandom will see what that person is like. This is not ideal editing, but if the person concerned doesn't request the removal of their name, it will not be changed - the article will be reworded to be based solely on facts if possible, or removed if not.

:The question perhaps shouldn't be "why are real names included at all", but "why aren't real names included for everyone?". Ultimately, aritcles should be under the name which people would link to, and so that is the only name that '''has''' to be there. In the furry fandom, this is more often than not the person's fan name, if they have one. They may only use this name, or they may use their real name as well. If so, people may or may not decide to add it, but it's not considered critical if it's not usually used. Even if a person's real name ''is'' regularly used, in general we will on request remove a person's real name and replace it with their fan name/nickname when describing them, whether or not they are/have been members of the fandom. However, members of the fandom are a) more likely to request this, becuase more of them come here, b) are (slightly) more likely to have such a request accepted (because if non-members are listed here it is usually because they are either famous or infamous, not just because they're furry), and c) are more likely to have such nicknames to use in the first place (we can't exactly say "The comic Fuzzy Things, authored by {blank} . . .").

:I'm aware this answer was rather long and rambling, but that's because I'm tired, and it's a complicated issue when talking in general. If you have specific cases you want explained, feel free to point them out. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 02:29, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

::GreenReaper, in response to your reply, I have added comments to two talk sections, Sibe and Burned Fur, pointing out what I see as an unfair biasing. I'm interested in your reply on both.

::There's also one other possible point on Sibe that you might want to run by an attorney, since the status of Wiki's as "legitimate publications" is still in legal limbo: Sibe is legally a "private figure" and his actions in Furry do not make him, in the legal sense, a "public figure" (both of these are legal terms). As a private individual, he's afforded certain legal protections about what information can be revealed. These protections may or may not cover his criminal record or other information. I think it would be worth your time to consult with someone from the EFF and make sure you haven't crossed the line. While you say that you're just one editor, if no other person can over-rule your edits without your consent, it's your "publication". As such, even if Sibe were to decide to come after Wikifur ''et al'' for any damages the publication of protected information caused him (if any such protections exist at all), you'd still be on the line. Again, the law regarding this may or may not cover him.

:::I agree (unlike some) that Sibe is a private figure, and as such someone ''might'' be liable if we were negligent in publishing made-up facts, even if we did not act with the knowledge that they were false (or with reckless disregard as to whether or not they were false). For example, if we said that the Burned Furs burned people, that would be libel without good evidence. However, a glance at the talk page archives and article history should show you that we have been willing to work with concerned parties to ensure the accuracy of the article, and to obtain exact sources for assertions where appropriate. We have no interest in being negligent (and certainly not grossly negligent), because that makes for a poor article.

:::In contrast, the limitations on information that is actually ''true'' are really quite small, and in general don't apply to us as a private site. I'm not a lawyer, but this situation has come up before and so I've done some research. Criminal records are public information in the State of Washington (and generally speaking in other states). Most other privacy legislation is aimed at restricting what companies can tell third parties about their customers (who they have a contract with), and not about what individuals (who never agreed to any contract) may publish from their own knowledge. The [[Wikipedia:First Amendment to the United States Constitution|First Amendment]] gives us rather sweeping powers in this area that allow us to publish just about anything as long as it is true, and in practice the "due process" terms of the [[Wikipedia:Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution|Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution|Fourteenth Amendment]] extends this to the states as well. Credit card numbers, social security numbers and driver's license number would probably be stuff that should be removed. Other than that, it's pretty much fair game and up to the community to decide what it ''should'' publish, in a moral sense.

:::[[Wikia:Wikia, Inc.|Wikia]] is able to overrule my edits without my consent. If people feel I'm not doing a good enough job, or that WikiFur is infringing their rights, they should contact them. They have more experience than I do, and I am willing to defer to them. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 19:52, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

== Hi, Peace from AU ==
Hello, my name is D. Coldheartt. I am the head admin of the Alternative Universe wiki which is also pretty big. I am a big fan of, well furry stuff and creatures and animals so i decided to join here. I was wondering if i could also become a administrator here if at all possib;e. [[User:D. Coldheartt|D. Coldheartt]] 23:44, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

: Admin status is generally given to users who have a history of contributing to the wiki. If you're interested in becoming an admin, we recommend following [[Special:Recentchanges]] and contributing to/cleaning up articles, dealing with vandalism, etc.
: I'm curious about this Alternate Universe wiki that you mentioned. Typing "Alternate Universe wiki" into Google [http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=%22Alternative+Universe+wiki%22&btnG=Search brings up zero matches]. [http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=%22Alternative+Universe%22+wiki&btnG=Search A slightly more liberal search] did not help me find it either. Did I misspell or typo something? --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 00:22, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

The AU has actually been down for quite some time and replaced with Vandal Manifest Editthis Wiki. [[User:D. Coldheartt|D. Coldheartt]] 00:24, 13 September 2006 (UTC) WikiTV started at Revived Haven Editthis and moved on to Meta Wiki. Jimbos one of the users alowed into revived haven. [[User:D. Coldheartt|D. Coldheartt]] 00:24, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

: [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22Vandal+Manifest%22&btnG=Google+Search Googling for Vandal Manifest] does not turn up anything.
: [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22Revived+Haven%22&btnG=Google+Search Googling for Revived Haven] does not turn up anything, either.
: I'm sensing a pattern here. --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 00:32, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

:: And he first [[:Special:Contributions/D._Coldheartt|spammed a bunch of the admins]] to ask for admin privileges. --[[User:Frizzy|Frizzy]] 00:39, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Heres the link: to VM, http://editthis.info/vandal_manifest/Main_Page a former vandal war site but now good. Ignore the messages the page their is called WikiTV. [[User:D. Coldheartt|D. Coldheartt]] 00:35, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

::None of the pages are available for viewing without a password [[User:63.204.227.202|63.204.227.202]] 00:46, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

:::Please ignore [[User:D. Coldheartt]], it is a swfanon sockpuppeter and general wikia attention spammer. Usernames include: Alacaster Torn, The Vanguard, ThatLittleMidget, Proffesor Mephisto, Black Dawn, Licorice ... --[[w:User:Splarka|Splarka]] ([[w:User_talk:Splarka|talk]]) 01:47, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

== Well cheers for the welcome! ==

Just thought I'd drop by and say thanks for the welcome - wasn't expecting that! Been using this site as a resourse for a good while now so I thought it was only right to inflict a little of myself on here.

[[Werewolf Of London]]

== Hey hey ==

Well I had some problems with creating the article of our new Polish Furries forum and website, but I'm good now.

Say would t be a problem for you to place an info about http://furry.wikia.com/wiki/Polska_Strefa_Furry on the main page? {{unsigned|TerrisRacoon}}

:I will update our [[WikiFur:Did you know?|Did you know?]] section on the front page, and include a link to that page, as it is interesting to know about new forums.

:Oh, and a couple of tips - you should not remove a message on a talk page after you have saved it - it should be left on the page so that the person can reply. Otherwise there is no record, and it looks as if there has been no message, which is confusing when the window pops up saying "you have new messages". :-) Also, you can sign your name on Talk: pages with this: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. It gives this sort of result: --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 08:32, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

== Furry gaming project...? ==

Seeing as how Wikipedia has a project that concetrates on improving the quality and quantity of gaming articles, may I suggest implementing a similiar project? The amount of games with furry elements is not a small one, and it would be very helpful, if information about those games (most are old, PC DOS titles, which run perfectly under DosBox) was included in one place, for sake of completeness and subject coverage.

Especially games like [[Project Nomad]] could use that coverage, as they have literally truckloads of content, and it would be helpful to store it in one place, much like [[Albion (video game)|Albion]]'s articles are done.

Just a thought.

Oh, and what is the general stance about making articles about oneself? Mikael Grizzly 22:30, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

:Seems like a nice enough idea. We already have [[WikiFur:Project Fursuit Central|something similar]] for [[fursuit]]ing, although that's been slow recently. The trouble is there are few "meta"-editors at this time, and so you may find it hard to gather contributors to help you out. I would suggest that you concentrate on one or two particular projects at a time so that it doesn't bog down in needing to do 10 different things at once. :-)

:Articles about yourself are fine as long as they are neutrally written, like any other article. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 04:19, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

== Need help putting up an article ==

I want to put up an essay that's under the GNU Free Docement Lisence, and I want to ask for a little bit of tips on how to do it before I actually do it. Or even how I'm suppose to do it. --[[User:Foxpaws-zupe|Foxpaws]] 00:52, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

:Could you be more specific about what you're trying to do? If you have a GFDL essay from another place, then in general it's fine to just copy it here into a new page as long as you give attribution for the people who wrote it (for example, with Wikipedia you would link to the history page) and preferably link back to the original source. Of course, it would have to fit the topic of the wiki, and be neutral in tone. If it was not neutral (whether or not you wrote it), you should probably avoid putting it in the main namespage - it should go a subpage of your User: space - e.g [[User:Foxpaws-zupe/Article name]] - and it should have a note up at the top similar to that of the [[:Template:personal-article|personal-article template]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 04:22, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Hey! I'll be alright, I guess. I'll fix the entries up s'more later.

I should remember to tag that 'minor edit' box more often. *nods*

Naros

2006-09-17T16:07:05Z

Naros:

'''Naros (also known as Soulfox or even Naros Soulfox)''' is a fur who is a [[nonmorphic]] [[fox]] on some Internet venues, and a [[Were|were]]fox on others.

Dispite all the rumours, that have died down lately, he is ''mostly harmless'' and can often be found at cons, stealing cuddles from friends.

{{Person-stub}}

== External links ==
{{Contributor}}
* [http://www.tigress.com/naros/ Naros' Personal Webpage]

[[Category:People]]
[[Category:Fox characters]]
[[Category:Nonmorphic characters]]
[[Category:Were characters]]

Naros

2006-09-17T16:06:29Z

Naros:

'''Naros (also known as Soulfox or even Naros Soulfox)''' is a fur who is a [[nonmorphic]] [[fox]] on some Internet venues, and a [[Were|were]]fox on others.

Dispite all the rumours, that have died down lately, he is mostly harmless and can often be found at cons, stealing cuddles from friends.

{{Person-stub}}

== External links ==
{{Contributor}}
* [http://www.tigress.com/naros/ Naros' Personal Webpage]

[[Category:People]]
[[Category:Fox characters]]
[[Category:Nonmorphic characters]]
[[Category:Were characters]]

Naros

2006-09-17T16:05:58Z

Naros:

'''Naros (also known as Soulfox or even Naros Soulfox)''' is a fur who is a [[nonmorphic]] [[fox]] on some Internet venues, and a [[Were|were]]fox on others.

Dispite all the rumours, that have died down lately, he is mostly harmless, and can often be found at cons, stealing cuddles from friends.

{{Person-stub}}

== External links ==
{{Contributor}}
* [http://www.tigress.com/naros/ Naros' Personal Webpage]

[[Category:People]]
[[Category:Fox characters]]
[[Category:Nonmorphic characters]]
[[Category:Were characters]]

Soulfox

2006-09-17T16:03:00Z

Naros:

Do you mean:
* '''[[Naros|Naros AKA Soulfox]]''', a Dutch member of the fandom
* '''[[Ian R. Soulfox]]''', creator of ''[[The Tail Underground]]''

Soulfox is [[Naros|Naros']] main character; an cuddly little arctic fox.
There's nothing special about him, really. No magic, no super powers, just a little fluffy fox.
Soulfox, however, isn't a name one can use in person, as it sounds rather lame.

This is why most people refer to him as Naros.

[[Naros|Naros AKA Soulfox]] met [[Ian R. Soulfox]] at some point in time, at which point Ian offered to find a new name, but seeing as it's a perfectly good name, and seeing as he was already famous for his art under that name, and a swell guy to boot, Naros said that there was no need for something as drastic as all that.

Naros continues to be mistaken for Ian on the internet, and probably always will, though.

{{disambig}}

Soulfox

2006-09-17T16:01:16Z

Naros:

Do you mean:
* '''[[Naros|Naros AKA Soulfox]]''', a Dutch member of the fandom
* '''[[Ian R. Soulfox]]''', creator of ''[[The Tail Underground]]''

Soulfox is [[Naros|Naros']] main character; an cuddly little arctic fox.
There's nothing special about him, really. No magic, no super powers, just a little fluffy fox.
Soulfox, however, isn't a name one can use in person, as it sounds rather lame.

This is why most people refer to him as Naros.

[[Naros|Naros AKA Soulfox]] met [[Ian R. Soulfox]] at some point in time, at which point Ian offered to find a new name, but seeing as it's a perfectly good name, and seeing as he was already famous for his art under that name, Naros said that there was no need for something as drastic as all that.
Naros continues to be mistaken for Ian on the internet, and probably always will, though.

{{disambig}}

Soulfox

2006-09-17T15:57:39Z

Naros:

Naros

2006-09-16T15:31:07Z

Naros:

'''Mostly Harmless'''

== External Links ==
[http://www.tigress.com/naros/ Naros' Personal Webpage]

Naros

2006-09-16T15:26:54Z

Naros:

'''Mostly Harmless'''

== External Links ==
[http://www.tigress.com/naros/ Naros's Personal Webpage]

Cassandra Gunn

2006-09-16T15:24:20Z

Naros:

[[Image:Wikihope.jpg|thumb|right|Older image by Ultraviolet's creator, of her bringing life back to parched earth.]]

==Character creation & evolution==
'''Ultraviolet''' is a [[character]] created by [[Cassandra Gunn]] back in 1998, and is also the artist's alias.
Originally the character was a [[cat]] (Russian Blue), with fuschia pink hair and a black tail, accompanied by a musical crystal broom and unicorn-horned raven.

==Current character details==
[[Image:Wikilight1.jpg|left|thumb|Color image by Ultaviolet's creator, the Ukimori is enjoying the light of a jack-o-lantern.]]
In 2000 Ultraviolet was redesigned. Sorceress and sex-vamp, she became a [[Ukimori]], a heraldic unicorn and flying fox (bat) hybrid.

Ultraviolet is characterized as having luminous yellow-green eyes and silvery-grey fur. Her facial characteristics are very much like that of a flying-fox. Her ears are black and fuchsia on the inside and she has two piercings in each ear, a lip spike (labret piercing) and her nose is pink. Her strongest characteristics are her long spiraling, iridescent unicorn horn, massive black wings (with fuchsia flesh on the inside membrane), cloven hooves with black fur tufts around them, and black tail ending in a long purple tuft.

==Character tastes and personality==
[[Image:Twilightdance1.jpg|right|thumb|Graphite image by the creator of Ultraviolet.]]
She's most often associated with gothic, rave, and cyber culture. Primarily she wears black and white stripy tights, goggles, corsets, and long faux fur coats.

Her personality is very bright, flirty, dominant and playful. Some think she's a bit of a saucey vixen. She would grin agreeably :)

She is not at all shy about getting what she wants and won't let anything get in her way and can be a bit of a diva at times. But at the end of the day she is true to those she loves and would fiercely protect them.She also feels adamently in tune with nature and uses her innate magical abilities mostly for helping heal, care for, and protect Shi'Imora.

She also adamently loves fruit, honey and has a desperate weak-spot for pretty-boys.

==Character background and story==
Created by the human Dr.Hira, Ultraviolet was the first successful [[bat]] and heraldic [[unicorn]] hybrid. Her real given name was Asha Hira, named after the good doctor, but it was her project name, Ultraviolet, that stuck (called so, because she could make her eyes, horn and tongue glow as an infant).

Living on the planet of Shi'Imora, and growing up in the Solarian elf village Mikobi-Rhin, it was there with the elves that she grew and learned along side her childhood friend, Rikaru. Through the Solarians, she learned about magic, love and the world around her. She grew up to witness the war against man, when much of Shi' Imora and its denizens rose up against the shallow, destructive nature of humanity and destroyed them. Afterwards she took to living primarily in solitude, away from the place where her creator was murdered, in a ruined [[human]] city cathedral.

More images of the character can be found at various websites, such as [[VCL]], [[FurAffinity]], [[Yerf]] and others.

[[Category:Bat-hybrid characters]]
[[Category:Unicorn-hybrid characters]]

Soulfox

2006-09-16T15:12:04Z

Naros:

Soulfox, AKA [[Naros]]

Dutch guy. Often mistaken for Ian, even though he's been around longer.

[http://www.tigress.com/naros/ Website here].

For Ian R. Soulfox please refer to [[Ian_R._Soulfox]]

Soulfox

2006-09-16T15:11:43Z

Naros:

Soulfox, AKA [[Naros]]

Dutch guy. Often mistaken for Ian, even though he's been around longer.

[http://www.tigress.com/naros/ Website here].

For Ian R. Soulfox please check [[Ian_R._Soulfox]]

Soulfox

2006-09-16T15:11:08Z

Naros:

Soulfox, AKA [[Naros]]

Dutch guy. Often mistaken for Ian, even though he's been around longer.
[http://www.tigress.com/naros/ Website here].

For Ian R. Soulfox please check [[Ian_R._Soulfox]]

Naros

2006-09-16T15:09:12Z

Naros:

'''Mostly Harmless'''

Soulfox

2006-09-16T15:08:30Z

Naros:

Soulfox, AKA [[Naros]]

Dutch guy. Often mistaken for Ian, even though he's been around longer.

For Ian R. Soulfox please check [[Ian_R._Soulfox]]

Soulfox

2006-09-16T15:07:01Z

Naros:

Soulfox, AKA [[Naros]]

For Ian R. Soulfox please check [[Ian_R._Soulfox]]