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ER

2009-01-11T23:09:43Z

Myron J Comus: /* External links */

'''''ER''''' is a serial television drama by [[Wikipedia:NBC|NBC]] covering the emergency room of a fictitious teaching hospital in [[Wikipedia:Chicago, Illinois|Chicaco, Illinois]]. One episode (''Fear of Commitment'', Episode 155, Written by R. Scott Gemmill, Directed by Anthony Edwards, first broadcast 4 May 2001) includes a pair of [[fursuiter]]s (an [[opossum]] and a [[kangaroo]]) who have been in a fight - the opossum bit the kangaroo after the kangaroo punched the opossum for putting his hand in his [[pouch]].

The kangaroo explained that the fursuiters were at the ''Furturama show'', a fictional [[convention]] for furries. He also explained that he reacted in the way he did because he was "not into that weird stuff", which of course led to him explaining what that weird stuff was - "[[Furvert]]s like to wear their suits during sex, and [[plushophile|plushie]]s are . . . overly fond of stuffed animals."

The kangaroo had gotten into the fandom through acting at a party. He extolled the positive benefits of fursuiting while being [[Wikipedia:Suture|sutured]] - "Some people still disapprove and think it's wrong, but the truth is, I'm never happier than when I'm a kangaroo." Meanwhile, the opossum (who had been faking injury, although he wasn't fooling anyone) steals [[Wikipedia:Kerry Weaver|Dr. Weaver]]'s [[pawpet]], Mr. Whiskers, and she later finds him masturbating with it under the blankets. After she catches them, Possum makes a cat noise pretending to be Mr. Whiskers.

While this was not exactly the best representation of the fandom, both positive and negative sides were portrayed. As [[Dr. Cat]] said:

:''"So what's the problem we're going to have because of this tv show again? Oh, some people will think we're weirdo perverts? Well that'll be new, I don't think any of us have any preparation in how to deal with that totally novel and unexpected reaction."''

The main purpose of the furry segments appeared to be [[Wikipedia:comic relief|comic relief]] for the rest of the episode, particularly the mental competency hearing for [[Wikipedia:Abby Lockhart|Abby Lockhart]]'s suicidal mother.

== References ==

* ''[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.furry/browse_frm/thread/3d5c4307a57ee760 Catch E.R. Tonight?]'' - a thread about the episode on [[alt.fan.furry]]
* ''[http://lists.claws-and-paws.com/pipermail/pa-furry/2001-May/000783.html What's this about ER?]'' - a post on [[PA-Furry]]

== See also ==

* [[Wikipedia:ER|ER]] at Wikipedia

== External links ==

* [http://www.lildobe.net/furry/er/ Furry segments of the episode] - download provided by [[Andrew Koch]] These segments are no longer available on the linked web page.

[[Category:Television programs]][[Category:Media coverage]]

The Mouse Problem

2009-01-11T16:51:34Z

Myron J Comus: /* Third act */

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'''''The Mouse Problem''''' was a [[Wikipedia:sketch comedy|sketch]] in [[Wikipedia:Monty Python's Flying Circus|Monty Python's Flying Circus]], a popular [[Wikipedia:British Broadcasting Corporation|BBC]] comedy series. The sketch was part of the second episode (''[[Wikipedia:List of Monty Python's Flying Circus episodes#2. Sex and Violence|Sex and Violence]]'') in the show's first series, first airing October 13, 1969. An audio version of the episode was distributed on side 1, track 5 of the [[Wikipedia:Monty Python's Flying Circus (album)|''Monty Python's Flying Circus'' album]], released in 1970.

Although occasionally assumed to be about illicit drugs,<ref>[http://www.crushyiffdestroy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2746 Monty Python furries] - [[Crush Yiff Destroy]] forums (March 11, 2007)</ref> the sketch is generally accepted as a satire of period coverage of [[homosexuality]] (the [[Wikipedia:Stonewall riots|Stonewall riots]] had taken place just a few months before).<ref>''[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.homosexuality/browse_thread/thread/64a41e599213d29a/6bd2c10e10073d23?lnk=st&rnum=12&hl=en#6bd2c10e10073d23 The Mouse Problem]'' - [news://alt.politics.homosexuality alt.politics.homosexuality] (June 28, 1999)</ref> Some members of the [[furry fandom]] find it interesting to compare this satire with [[Timeline of media coverage|media coverage of furry fandom in the present day]]. The sketch is "re-discovered every few years" by those new to the fandom.<ref>''[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.furry/browse_thread/thread/5f2e3070772bfb6d Monty Python's "Mouse Problem" sketch]'' - [[alt.fan.furry]] (November 20, 1998)</ref><ref>''[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.furry/browse_thread/thread/1bd85490d0524527 Monty Python and The Mouse Problem]'' - alt.fan.furry (May 17, 2001)</ref><ref>''[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.furry/browse_thread/thread/4cbd750e1993d181 Mouse Problem - Monty Python] - alt.fan.furry (August 1, 2006)</ref>

The sketch was reportedly cut on rebroadcast into the USA, eliminating the section with The Amazing Kargol. Some suggest that this is due to the promotion of [[bestiality]], arson and murder, all of which were hot topics in mid-1970s USA.<ref>''[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.monty-python/browse_thread/thread/2f37f107da63d41f Monty Python #1: Edit]'' - [news://alt.fan.monty-python alt.fan.monty-python] (January 1, 1999)</ref>

== Transcript ==
<div style="float:right;padding-left:5px;"><youtube>Ihuv5z6nqWw</youtube></div>
=== First act ===
The curtain rises on a crowd of protesters holding signs up as the show's title appears - ''The World Around Us''.<ref>''The World Around Us'' is probably a spoof of long-running [[Wikipedia:investigative journalism|investigative journalism]] show ''[[Wikipedia:Panorama|Panorama]]''</ref>

The signs read:

* Hands Off Mice
* End Discrimination: Mice is Nice!
* REPEAL!! Anti-mouse Laws <u>Now!</u>
* Ho Ho Ho... Traps Must GO

They are followed by a cut to shots of the ''[[Wikipedia:News of the World|News of the World]]'' ("Pop Stars in Mouse Scandal"), and the ''[[Wikipedia:Daily Express|Daily Express]]'' ("Peer Faces Rodent Charges"). A policeman is shown taking a mouse-costumed individual into a police station, overlaid by the title - ''The Mouse Problem''.

The camera cuts to another newspaper shot, of the ''[[Wikipedia:The Times|Times]]'' ("Mouse Clubs on the Increase"), followed by several [[Wikipedia:strip tease|strip tease]] establishments advertising "Squeakerama", "The Little White Rodent Room", the "Eek Eek Club", and "Caerphilly a Go Go".<ref>[[Wikipedia:Caerphilly cheese|Caerphilly cheese]] would become a staple of ''Monty Python'', made infamous by the [[Wikipedia:Cheese Shop sketch|"Cheese Shop" sketch]]</ref>
=== Second act ===
''A presenter is revealed''
:Presenter (Michael Palin): Yes, the mouse problem. This week, ''The World Around Us'' looks at the growing social phenomenon of mice and men. What makes a man ''want'' to be a mouse?

''Cut to documentary-style opposing-chairs interview of a young male (Mr. A):''
:Mr. A (John Cleese): Well, uh, it's not a question of wanting to be a mouse. It just sort of happens to you. Erm . . . all of a sudden, you realize - that's what you wanna be.
:Interviewer (Terry Jones): And when did you first notice these - shall we say - tendencies?
:Mr. A: Well, I was about 17, and, uh, some mates and me . . . went to a party. And, uh, well, we had quite a lot to drink, and then some of the fellas there . . . started . . . handin' cheese around. Well, just out of curiosity, I tried a bit, and . . . well, that was that.
:Interviewer: Yes, and what else did these fellows do?
:Mr. A: Well, some of them started . . . dressing up as mice a bit, um. And then when they got the costumes on, they . . . started . . . squeaking.
:Interviewer: And was that all?
:Mr. A (hurriedly): That was ''all''.
:Interviewer: And what was your reaction to all this?
:Mr. A: Well, I was shocked.
:Interviewer: Yes.
:Mr. A: But, uh . . . gradually I came to feel that I was more at ease with other mice.

=== Third act ===

''We return to the studio''
:Presenter: A typical case, whom we shall refer to as Mr. A - although his real name is this:
<pre>
ARTHUR JACKSON,
32a MILTON AVENUE,
HOUNDSLOUGH
MIDDX.
</pre>
:Presenter: What is it that attracts someone like Mr. A to this way of life? I have with me a consultant psychiatrist.
''The Amazing Kargol (Graham Chapman) puts out sign: "The Amazing Kargol and Janet"''
:The Amazing Kargol: Well, we just heard a typical case history. I myself have over 700 similar histories, all fully documented. Would you . . . care to choose one?
''Camera pans to show Janet (Carol Cleveland) in a conjurer's assistant's costume, offering a fan of cards with one prominently positioned, which the presenter picks.''
:The Amazing Kargol: Mr. Arthur Aldridge of . . . Lemmington!
:Presenter: Well, that's amazing.
:The Amazing Kargol: Thank you.
:Presenter: Thank you, Janet.
Janet walks off to 'tah-dah' music.
:Presenter: Kargol, speaking as a psychiatrist, as opposed to a conjurer . . .
:Kargol: Oh.
:Presenter: What makes certain men want to be mice?
:Kargol: Well, we psychiatrists have found that over 8% of the population will always be mice. I mean, after all, there's something of the mouse in all of us. I mean, how many of us can honestly say . . .
''The presenter starts nodding''
:Kargol: . . . that at one time or another he hasn't felt sexually attracted to mice.
''The presenter stops nodding''
:Kargol: I know I have. I mean, most normal adolescents go through a stage of squeaking; two or three times a day. Most youngesters, on the other hand . . . some youngsters, are attracted to it by its very illegality. It's like murder. Make a thing illegal, and it acquires a mystique. I mean, look at arson.
''The presnter shows increasing signs of distraction''
:Kargol: How many of us can honestly say that at one time or another he hasn't set fire to some great public building. I know I have!
''Phone on the desk starts ringing, the presenter picks it up and muffles it under his arm''
:Kargol: The only way, the only way to bring the crime figures down is to reduce the number of offences. Get it out in the open! I know I have . . .
:Presenter: Mmm. The Amazing Kargol and Janet.

=== Fourth act ===
''The camera zooms swiftly onto the presenter''
:Presenter: What a lot of people don't realize is that a mouse, once accepted, can fulfill a very useful role in society. Indeed, there are examples throughout history of famous men, now known to have been mice.
''Cut to shot of [[Wikipedia:Julius Caesar|Julius Caesar]] (Chapman) on a hilltop''
:Caesar: Veni, vidi, vici.
''Caesar looks both ways.''
:Caesar: *eep*
''Cut to shot of [[Wikipedia:Napoleon I of France|Napoléon Bonaparte]] (Jones) in his famous hand-inside-shirt stance. Withdrawing the hand, he reveals that he was concealing a large wedge of cheese, which he takes a bite of.
:Presenter: And, of course, [[Wikipedia:Hilaire Belloc|Hilaire Belloc]]. But what is the attitude of . . .
:Random viking (Eric Idle): . . . the man in the street towards . . .
:Presenter: . . . this growing social problem?
''Cut to varied scenes of people in daily life''
:Window-cleaner (Idle): Clamp down on them.
:Presenter: How?
:Window-cleaner: I'd strangle 'em.
:Stockbroker (Cleese): Well, speaking as a member of the stock exchange, I would suck their brains out with a straw, uh, sell the widows and orphans, and go into South American zinc.
:Butcher (Jones): Yeah, uh, I'd stuff sparrows down their throats, uh, until the beaks stuck out through their stomach walls.
:Accountant (Chapman): Oh, uh, I'm a [[Wikipedia:Chartered Accountant|Chartered Accountant]], and consequentially too boring to be of any interest.
:Vicar (Cleese): I feel that these poor, unfortunate people should be free to live the lives of their own choice.
''The vicar motions up to scratch his ear, in the manner of a rodent''
:Porter (Jones): I'd, uh, split their nostrils open with a boat-hook, I think.
:Man in garden (Chapman): Oh, well, uh, they can't help it, can they? But, uh, there's nothing you can do about it, uh, so, I'd kill em.

=== Fifth act ===

''Back in the studio''
:Presenter: Clearly, the British public's view is a hostile one. Hostile.
''Yellow board with red writing, and elegant female voiceover: "Hostile!"''
:Presenter: But perhaps this is because so little is generally known of these mice-men. We have have some film now, taken at one of the notorious weekend mouse parties where these disgusting little perverts meet.
''Shot of people in mice costumes in silhouette''
:Presenter: Mr. A tells us what actually goes on at these mouse parties.
:Mr. A: Well, uh, first you get shown to your own private hole in the skirting-board. Uh, then you put the mouse skin on, um . . .
''Mr. A raises his upper lip in a mouselike fashion''
:Mr. A: Then you . . . scurry into the main room, and pr'haps, uh, take a run in the wheel.
:Presenter: The remainder of this film was taken secretly at one of these mouse parties by a BBC cameraman posing as a vole. As usual, we apologize for the poor quality of the film.
''Cut to shot of people in mice costumes gnawing ferociously at cheese (Their mouse heads make it impossible to identify the performers)''
:Mr. A: Well, uh, then you steal some cheese; Brie or Camembert, or Cheddar or Gouda if you're on the 'arder stuff. Erm, you might go and see one of the blue cheese films. Then . . . there's a big clock in the middle of the room, and about 12:50, you climb up it. And then . . .
''A shot of a poorly-disguised, mustached man (Idle? possibly Jones) in woman's clothing brandishing a chopping knife.
:Mr. A: . . . eventually the clock strikes 1:00, and you all run down.
:Confessor: What's that?
''The "woman" starts to chop at a jumping mouse's tail with the knife.
:Mr. A: That's the farmer's wife.
:Presenter: Yes . . . perhaps we need to know more of these mice-men before we can really judge them. Perhaps not. Anyway, our 30 minutes are up.
''A sheep from a previous sketch flies over with a *BAAAH*, presenter takes out a gun and shoots it dead''
:Presenter: Goodnight!

== References ==
<references />

== External links ==
* ''[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ihuv5z6nqWw The Mouse Problem]'' ([http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK92NYwBMts backup]) This video has been removed from YouTube
* [http://orangecow.org/pythonet/sketches/mouse.htm Two] [http://www.geocities.com/fang_club/mouse_problem.html transcripts] of the sketch
[[Category:Television programs|Mouse Problem]]

The Mouse Problem

2009-01-11T16:50:49Z

Myron J Comus: /* Fifth act */

<div style="float:right">__TOC__</div>
'''''The Mouse Problem''''' was a [[Wikipedia:sketch comedy|sketch]] in [[Wikipedia:Monty Python's Flying Circus|Monty Python's Flying Circus]], a popular [[Wikipedia:British Broadcasting Corporation|BBC]] comedy series. The sketch was part of the second episode (''[[Wikipedia:List of Monty Python's Flying Circus episodes#2. Sex and Violence|Sex and Violence]]'') in the show's first series, first airing October 13, 1969. An audio version of the episode was distributed on side 1, track 5 of the [[Wikipedia:Monty Python's Flying Circus (album)|''Monty Python's Flying Circus'' album]], released in 1970.

Although occasionally assumed to be about illicit drugs,<ref>[http://www.crushyiffdestroy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2746 Monty Python furries] - [[Crush Yiff Destroy]] forums (March 11, 2007)</ref> the sketch is generally accepted as a satire of period coverage of [[homosexuality]] (the [[Wikipedia:Stonewall riots|Stonewall riots]] had taken place just a few months before).<ref>''[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.homosexuality/browse_thread/thread/64a41e599213d29a/6bd2c10e10073d23?lnk=st&rnum=12&hl=en#6bd2c10e10073d23 The Mouse Problem]'' - [news://alt.politics.homosexuality alt.politics.homosexuality] (June 28, 1999)</ref> Some members of the [[furry fandom]] find it interesting to compare this satire with [[Timeline of media coverage|media coverage of furry fandom in the present day]]. The sketch is "re-discovered every few years" by those new to the fandom.<ref>''[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.furry/browse_thread/thread/5f2e3070772bfb6d Monty Python's "Mouse Problem" sketch]'' - [[alt.fan.furry]] (November 20, 1998)</ref><ref>''[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.furry/browse_thread/thread/1bd85490d0524527 Monty Python and The Mouse Problem]'' - alt.fan.furry (May 17, 2001)</ref><ref>''[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.furry/browse_thread/thread/4cbd750e1993d181 Mouse Problem - Monty Python] - alt.fan.furry (August 1, 2006)</ref>

The sketch was reportedly cut on rebroadcast into the USA, eliminating the section with The Amazing Kargol. Some suggest that this is due to the promotion of [[bestiality]], arson and murder, all of which were hot topics in mid-1970s USA.<ref>''[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.monty-python/browse_thread/thread/2f37f107da63d41f Monty Python #1: Edit]'' - [news://alt.fan.monty-python alt.fan.monty-python] (January 1, 1999)</ref>

== Transcript ==
<div style="float:right;padding-left:5px;"><youtube>Ihuv5z6nqWw</youtube></div>
=== First act ===
The curtain rises on a crowd of protesters holding signs up as the show's title appears - ''The World Around Us''.<ref>''The World Around Us'' is probably a spoof of long-running [[Wikipedia:investigative journalism|investigative journalism]] show ''[[Wikipedia:Panorama|Panorama]]''</ref>

The signs read:

* Hands Off Mice
* End Discrimination: Mice is Nice!
* REPEAL!! Anti-mouse Laws <u>Now!</u>
* Ho Ho Ho... Traps Must GO

They are followed by a cut to shots of the ''[[Wikipedia:News of the World|News of the World]]'' ("Pop Stars in Mouse Scandal"), and the ''[[Wikipedia:Daily Express|Daily Express]]'' ("Peer Faces Rodent Charges"). A policeman is shown taking a mouse-costumed individual into a police station, overlaid by the title - ''The Mouse Problem''.

The camera cuts to another newspaper shot, of the ''[[Wikipedia:The Times|Times]]'' ("Mouse Clubs on the Increase"), followed by several [[Wikipedia:strip tease|strip tease]] establishments advertising "Squeakerama", "The Little White Rodent Room", the "Eek Eek Club", and "Caerphilly a Go Go".<ref>[[Wikipedia:Caerphilly cheese|Caerphilly cheese]] would become a staple of ''Monty Python'', made infamous by the [[Wikipedia:Cheese Shop sketch|"Cheese Shop" sketch]]</ref>
=== Second act ===
''A presenter is revealed''
:Presenter (Michael Palin): Yes, the mouse problem. This week, ''The World Around Us'' looks at the growing social phenomenon of mice and men. What makes a man ''want'' to be a mouse?

''Cut to documentary-style opposing-chairs interview of a young male (Mr. A):''
:Mr. A (John Cleese): Well, uh, it's not a question of wanting to be a mouse. It just sort of happens to you. Erm . . . all of a sudden, you realize - that's what you wanna be.
:Interviewer (Terry Jones): And when did you first notice these - shall we say - tendencies?
:Mr. A: Well, I was about 17, and, uh, some mates and me . . . went to a party. And, uh, well, we had quite a lot to drink, and then some of the fellas there . . . started . . . handin' cheese around. Well, just out of curiosity, I tried a bit, and . . . well, that was that.
:Interviewer: Yes, and what else did these fellows do?
:Mr. A: Well, some of them started . . . dressing up as mice a bit, um. And then when they got the costumes on, they . . . started . . . squeaking.
:Interviewer: And was that all?
:Mr. A (hurriedly): That was ''all''.
:Interviewer: And what was your reaction to all this?
:Mr. A: Well, I was shocked.
:Interviewer: Yes.
:Mr. A: But, uh . . . gradually I came to feel that I was more at ease with other mice.

=== Third act ===

''We return to the studio''
:Presenter: A typical case, whom we shall refer to as Mr. A - although his real name is this:
<pre>
ARTHUR JACKSON,
32a MILTON AVENUE,
HOUNDSLOUGH
MIDDX.
</pre>
:Presenter: What is it that attracts someone like Mr. A to this way of life? I have with me a consultant psychiatrist.
''The Amazing Kargol (Graham Chapman) puts out sign: "The Amazing Kargol and Janet"''
:The Amazing Kargol: Well, we just heard a typical case history. I myself have over 700 similar histories, all fully documented. Would you . . . care to choose one?
''Camera pans to show Janet in a conjurer's assistant's costume, offering a fan of cards with one prominently positioned, which the presenter picks.''
:The Amazing Kargol: Mr. Arthur Aldridge of . . . Lemmington!
:Presenter: Well, that's amazing.
:The Amazing Kargol: Thank you.
:Presenter: Thank you, Janet.
Janet walks off to 'tah-dah' music.
:Presenter: Kargol, speaking as a psychiatrist, as opposed to a conjurer . . .
:Kargol: Oh.
:Presenter: What makes certain men want to be mice?
:Kargol: Well, we psychiatrists have found that over 8% of the population will always be mice. I mean, after all, there's something of the mouse in all of us. I mean, how many of us can honestly say . . .
''The presenter starts nodding''
:Kargol: . . . that at one time or another he hasn't felt sexually attracted to mice.
''The presenter stops nodding''
:Kargol: I know I have. I mean, most normal adolescents go through a stage of squeaking; two or three times a day. Most youngesters, on the other hand . . . some youngsters, are attracted to it by its very illegality. It's like murder. Make a thing illegal, and it acquires a mystique. I mean, look at arson.
''The presnter shows increasing signs of distraction''
:Kargol: How many of us can honestly say that at one time or another he hasn't set fire to some great public building. I know I have!
''Phone on the desk starts ringing, the presenter picks it up and muffles it under his arm''
:Kargol: The only way, the only way to bring the crime figures down is to reduce the number of offences. Get it out in the open! I know I have . . .
:Presenter: Mmm. The Amazing Kargol and Janet.

=== Fourth act ===
''The camera zooms swiftly onto the presenter''
:Presenter: What a lot of people don't realize is that a mouse, once accepted, can fulfill a very useful role in society. Indeed, there are examples throughout history of famous men, now known to have been mice.
''Cut to shot of [[Wikipedia:Julius Caesar|Julius Caesar]] (Chapman) on a hilltop''
:Caesar: Veni, vidi, vici.
''Caesar looks both ways.''
:Caesar: *eep*
''Cut to shot of [[Wikipedia:Napoleon I of France|Napoléon Bonaparte]] (Jones) in his famous hand-inside-shirt stance. Withdrawing the hand, he reveals that he was concealing a large wedge of cheese, which he takes a bite of.
:Presenter: And, of course, [[Wikipedia:Hilaire Belloc|Hilaire Belloc]]. But what is the attitude of . . .
:Random viking (Eric Idle): . . . the man in the street towards . . .
:Presenter: . . . this growing social problem?
''Cut to varied scenes of people in daily life''
:Window-cleaner (Idle): Clamp down on them.
:Presenter: How?
:Window-cleaner: I'd strangle 'em.
:Stockbroker (Cleese): Well, speaking as a member of the stock exchange, I would suck their brains out with a straw, uh, sell the widows and orphans, and go into South American zinc.
:Butcher (Jones): Yeah, uh, I'd stuff sparrows down their throats, uh, until the beaks stuck out through their stomach walls.
:Accountant (Chapman): Oh, uh, I'm a [[Wikipedia:Chartered Accountant|Chartered Accountant]], and consequentially too boring to be of any interest.
:Vicar (Cleese): I feel that these poor, unfortunate people should be free to live the lives of their own choice.
''The vicar motions up to scratch his ear, in the manner of a rodent''
:Porter (Jones): I'd, uh, split their nostrils open with a boat-hook, I think.
:Man in garden (Chapman): Oh, well, uh, they can't help it, can they? But, uh, there's nothing you can do about it, uh, so, I'd kill em.

=== Fifth act ===

''Back in the studio''
:Presenter: Clearly, the British public's view is a hostile one. Hostile.
''Yellow board with red writing, and elegant female voiceover: "Hostile!"''
:Presenter: But perhaps this is because so little is generally known of these mice-men. We have have some film now, taken at one of the notorious weekend mouse parties where these disgusting little perverts meet.
''Shot of people in mice costumes in silhouette''
:Presenter: Mr. A tells us what actually goes on at these mouse parties.
:Mr. A: Well, uh, first you get shown to your own private hole in the skirting-board. Uh, then you put the mouse skin on, um . . .
''Mr. A raises his upper lip in a mouselike fashion''
:Mr. A: Then you . . . scurry into the main room, and pr'haps, uh, take a run in the wheel.
:Presenter: The remainder of this film was taken secretly at one of these mouse parties by a BBC cameraman posing as a vole. As usual, we apologize for the poor quality of the film.
''Cut to shot of people in mice costumes gnawing ferociously at cheese (Their mouse heads make it impossible to identify the performers)''
:Mr. A: Well, uh, then you steal some cheese; Brie or Camembert, or Cheddar or Gouda if you're on the 'arder stuff. Erm, you might go and see one of the blue cheese films. Then . . . there's a big clock in the middle of the room, and about 12:50, you climb up it. And then . . .
''A shot of a poorly-disguised, mustached man (Idle? possibly Jones) in woman's clothing brandishing a chopping knife.
:Mr. A: . . . eventually the clock strikes 1:00, and you all run down.
:Confessor: What's that?
''The "woman" starts to chop at a jumping mouse's tail with the knife.
:Mr. A: That's the farmer's wife.
:Presenter: Yes . . . perhaps we need to know more of these mice-men before we can really judge them. Perhaps not. Anyway, our 30 minutes are up.
''A sheep from a previous sketch flies over with a *BAAAH*, presenter takes out a gun and shoots it dead''
:Presenter: Goodnight!

== References ==
<references />

== External links ==
* ''[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ihuv5z6nqWw The Mouse Problem]'' ([http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK92NYwBMts backup]) This video has been removed from YouTube
* [http://orangecow.org/pythonet/sketches/mouse.htm Two] [http://www.geocities.com/fang_club/mouse_problem.html transcripts] of the sketch
[[Category:Television programs|Mouse Problem]]

The Mouse Problem

2009-01-11T16:50:13Z

Myron J Comus: /* Fifth act */

<div style="float:right">__TOC__</div>
'''''The Mouse Problem''''' was a [[Wikipedia:sketch comedy|sketch]] in [[Wikipedia:Monty Python's Flying Circus|Monty Python's Flying Circus]], a popular [[Wikipedia:British Broadcasting Corporation|BBC]] comedy series. The sketch was part of the second episode (''[[Wikipedia:List of Monty Python's Flying Circus episodes#2. Sex and Violence|Sex and Violence]]'') in the show's first series, first airing October 13, 1969. An audio version of the episode was distributed on side 1, track 5 of the [[Wikipedia:Monty Python's Flying Circus (album)|''Monty Python's Flying Circus'' album]], released in 1970.

Although occasionally assumed to be about illicit drugs,<ref>[http://www.crushyiffdestroy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2746 Monty Python furries] - [[Crush Yiff Destroy]] forums (March 11, 2007)</ref> the sketch is generally accepted as a satire of period coverage of [[homosexuality]] (the [[Wikipedia:Stonewall riots|Stonewall riots]] had taken place just a few months before).<ref>''[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.homosexuality/browse_thread/thread/64a41e599213d29a/6bd2c10e10073d23?lnk=st&rnum=12&hl=en#6bd2c10e10073d23 The Mouse Problem]'' - [news://alt.politics.homosexuality alt.politics.homosexuality] (June 28, 1999)</ref> Some members of the [[furry fandom]] find it interesting to compare this satire with [[Timeline of media coverage|media coverage of furry fandom in the present day]]. The sketch is "re-discovered every few years" by those new to the fandom.<ref>''[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.furry/browse_thread/thread/5f2e3070772bfb6d Monty Python's "Mouse Problem" sketch]'' - [[alt.fan.furry]] (November 20, 1998)</ref><ref>''[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.furry/browse_thread/thread/1bd85490d0524527 Monty Python and The Mouse Problem]'' - alt.fan.furry (May 17, 2001)</ref><ref>''[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.furry/browse_thread/thread/4cbd750e1993d181 Mouse Problem - Monty Python] - alt.fan.furry (August 1, 2006)</ref>

The sketch was reportedly cut on rebroadcast into the USA, eliminating the section with The Amazing Kargol. Some suggest that this is due to the promotion of [[bestiality]], arson and murder, all of which were hot topics in mid-1970s USA.<ref>''[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.monty-python/browse_thread/thread/2f37f107da63d41f Monty Python #1: Edit]'' - [news://alt.fan.monty-python alt.fan.monty-python] (January 1, 1999)</ref>

== Transcript ==
<div style="float:right;padding-left:5px;"><youtube>Ihuv5z6nqWw</youtube></div>
=== First act ===
The curtain rises on a crowd of protesters holding signs up as the show's title appears - ''The World Around Us''.<ref>''The World Around Us'' is probably a spoof of long-running [[Wikipedia:investigative journalism|investigative journalism]] show ''[[Wikipedia:Panorama|Panorama]]''</ref>

The signs read:

* Hands Off Mice
* End Discrimination: Mice is Nice!
* REPEAL!! Anti-mouse Laws <u>Now!</u>
* Ho Ho Ho... Traps Must GO

They are followed by a cut to shots of the ''[[Wikipedia:News of the World|News of the World]]'' ("Pop Stars in Mouse Scandal"), and the ''[[Wikipedia:Daily Express|Daily Express]]'' ("Peer Faces Rodent Charges"). A policeman is shown taking a mouse-costumed individual into a police station, overlaid by the title - ''The Mouse Problem''.

The camera cuts to another newspaper shot, of the ''[[Wikipedia:The Times|Times]]'' ("Mouse Clubs on the Increase"), followed by several [[Wikipedia:strip tease|strip tease]] establishments advertising "Squeakerama", "The Little White Rodent Room", the "Eek Eek Club", and "Caerphilly a Go Go".<ref>[[Wikipedia:Caerphilly cheese|Caerphilly cheese]] would become a staple of ''Monty Python'', made infamous by the [[Wikipedia:Cheese Shop sketch|"Cheese Shop" sketch]]</ref>
=== Second act ===
''A presenter is revealed''
:Presenter (Michael Palin): Yes, the mouse problem. This week, ''The World Around Us'' looks at the growing social phenomenon of mice and men. What makes a man ''want'' to be a mouse?

''Cut to documentary-style opposing-chairs interview of a young male (Mr. A):''
:Mr. A (John Cleese): Well, uh, it's not a question of wanting to be a mouse. It just sort of happens to you. Erm . . . all of a sudden, you realize - that's what you wanna be.
:Interviewer (Terry Jones): And when did you first notice these - shall we say - tendencies?
:Mr. A: Well, I was about 17, and, uh, some mates and me . . . went to a party. And, uh, well, we had quite a lot to drink, and then some of the fellas there . . . started . . . handin' cheese around. Well, just out of curiosity, I tried a bit, and . . . well, that was that.
:Interviewer: Yes, and what else did these fellows do?
:Mr. A: Well, some of them started . . . dressing up as mice a bit, um. And then when they got the costumes on, they . . . started . . . squeaking.
:Interviewer: And was that all?
:Mr. A (hurriedly): That was ''all''.
:Interviewer: And what was your reaction to all this?
:Mr. A: Well, I was shocked.
:Interviewer: Yes.
:Mr. A: But, uh . . . gradually I came to feel that I was more at ease with other mice.

=== Third act ===

''We return to the studio''
:Presenter: A typical case, whom we shall refer to as Mr. A - although his real name is this:
<pre>
ARTHUR JACKSON,
32a MILTON AVENUE,
HOUNDSLOUGH
MIDDX.
</pre>
:Presenter: What is it that attracts someone like Mr. A to this way of life? I have with me a consultant psychiatrist.
''The Amazing Kargol (Graham Chapman) puts out sign: "The Amazing Kargol and Janet"''
:The Amazing Kargol: Well, we just heard a typical case history. I myself have over 700 similar histories, all fully documented. Would you . . . care to choose one?
''Camera pans to show Janet in a conjurer's assistant's costume, offering a fan of cards with one prominently positioned, which the presenter picks.''
:The Amazing Kargol: Mr. Arthur Aldridge of . . . Lemmington!
:Presenter: Well, that's amazing.
:The Amazing Kargol: Thank you.
:Presenter: Thank you, Janet.
Janet walks off to 'tah-dah' music.
:Presenter: Kargol, speaking as a psychiatrist, as opposed to a conjurer . . .
:Kargol: Oh.
:Presenter: What makes certain men want to be mice?
:Kargol: Well, we psychiatrists have found that over 8% of the population will always be mice. I mean, after all, there's something of the mouse in all of us. I mean, how many of us can honestly say . . .
''The presenter starts nodding''
:Kargol: . . . that at one time or another he hasn't felt sexually attracted to mice.
''The presenter stops nodding''
:Kargol: I know I have. I mean, most normal adolescents go through a stage of squeaking; two or three times a day. Most youngesters, on the other hand . . . some youngsters, are attracted to it by its very illegality. It's like murder. Make a thing illegal, and it acquires a mystique. I mean, look at arson.
''The presnter shows increasing signs of distraction''
:Kargol: How many of us can honestly say that at one time or another he hasn't set fire to some great public building. I know I have!
''Phone on the desk starts ringing, the presenter picks it up and muffles it under his arm''
:Kargol: The only way, the only way to bring the crime figures down is to reduce the number of offences. Get it out in the open! I know I have . . .
:Presenter: Mmm. The Amazing Kargol and Janet.

=== Fourth act ===
''The camera zooms swiftly onto the presenter''
:Presenter: What a lot of people don't realize is that a mouse, once accepted, can fulfill a very useful role in society. Indeed, there are examples throughout history of famous men, now known to have been mice.
''Cut to shot of [[Wikipedia:Julius Caesar|Julius Caesar]] (Chapman) on a hilltop''
:Caesar: Veni, vidi, vici.
''Caesar looks both ways.''
:Caesar: *eep*
''Cut to shot of [[Wikipedia:Napoleon I of France|Napoléon Bonaparte]] (Jones) in his famous hand-inside-shirt stance. Withdrawing the hand, he reveals that he was concealing a large wedge of cheese, which he takes a bite of.
:Presenter: And, of course, [[Wikipedia:Hilaire Belloc|Hilaire Belloc]]. But what is the attitude of . . .
:Random viking (Eric Idle): . . . the man in the street towards . . .
:Presenter: . . . this growing social problem?
''Cut to varied scenes of people in daily life''
:Window-cleaner (Idle): Clamp down on them.
:Presenter: How?
:Window-cleaner: I'd strangle 'em.
:Stockbroker (Cleese): Well, speaking as a member of the stock exchange, I would suck their brains out with a straw, uh, sell the widows and orphans, and go into South American zinc.
:Butcher (Jones): Yeah, uh, I'd stuff sparrows down their throats, uh, until the beaks stuck out through their stomach walls.
:Accountant (Chapman): Oh, uh, I'm a [[Wikipedia:Chartered Accountant|Chartered Accountant]], and consequentially too boring to be of any interest.
:Vicar (Cleese): I feel that these poor, unfortunate people should be free to live the lives of their own choice.
''The vicar motions up to scratch his ear, in the manner of a rodent''
:Porter (Jones): I'd, uh, split their nostrils open with a boat-hook, I think.
:Man in garden (Chapman): Oh, well, uh, they can't help it, can they? But, uh, there's nothing you can do about it, uh, so, I'd kill em.

=== Fifth act ===

''Back in the studio''
:Presenter: Clearly, the British public's view is a hostile one. Hostile.
''Yellow board with red writing, and elegant female voiceover: "Hostile!"''
:Presenter: But perhaps this is because so little is generally known of these mice-men. We have have some film now, taken at one of the notorious weekend mouse parties where these disgusting little perverts meet.
''Shot of people in mice costumes in silhouette''
:Presenter: Mr. A tells us what actually goes on at these mouse parties.
:Mr. A: Well, uh, first you get shown to your own private hole in the skirting-board. Uh, then you put the mouse skin on, um . . .
''Mr. A raises his upper lip in a mouselike fashion''
:Mr. A: Then you . . . scurry into the main room, and pr'haps, uh, take a run in the wheel.
:Presenter: The remainder of this film was taken secretly at one of these mouse parties by a BBC cameraman posing as a vole. As usual, we apologize for the poor quality of the film.
''Cut to shot of people in mice costumes gnawing ferociously at cheese (Their mouse heads make it impossible to identify the performers)''
:Mr. A: Well, uh, then you steal some cheese; Brie or Camembert, or Cheddar or Gouda if you're on the 'arder stuff. Erm, you might go and see one of the blue cheese films. Then . . . there's a big clock in the middle of the room, and about 12:50, you climb up it. And then . . .
''A shot of a poorly-disguised, mustached man (Idle? possibly Jones)in woman's clothing brandishing a chopping knife.
:Mr. A: . . . eventually the clock strikes 1:00, and you all run down.
:Confessor: What's that?
''The "woman" starts to chop at a jumping mouse's tail with the knife.
:Mr. A: That's the farmer's wife.
:Presenter: Yes . . . perhaps we need to know more of these mice-men before we can really judge them. Perhaps not. Anyway, our 30 minutes are up.
''A sheep from a previous sketch flies over with a *BAAAH*, presenter takes out a gun and shoots it dead''
:Presenter: Goodnight!

== References ==
<references />

== External links ==
* ''[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ihuv5z6nqWw The Mouse Problem]'' ([http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK92NYwBMts backup]) This video has been removed from YouTube
* [http://orangecow.org/pythonet/sketches/mouse.htm Two] [http://www.geocities.com/fang_club/mouse_problem.html transcripts] of the sketch
[[Category:Television programs|Mouse Problem]]

The Mouse Problem

2009-01-11T16:49:15Z

Myron J Comus: /* Fifth act */

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'''''The Mouse Problem''''' was a [[Wikipedia:sketch comedy|sketch]] in [[Wikipedia:Monty Python's Flying Circus|Monty Python's Flying Circus]], a popular [[Wikipedia:British Broadcasting Corporation|BBC]] comedy series. The sketch was part of the second episode (''[[Wikipedia:List of Monty Python's Flying Circus episodes#2. Sex and Violence|Sex and Violence]]'') in the show's first series, first airing October 13, 1969. An audio version of the episode was distributed on side 1, track 5 of the [[Wikipedia:Monty Python's Flying Circus (album)|''Monty Python's Flying Circus'' album]], released in 1970.

Although occasionally assumed to be about illicit drugs,<ref>[http://www.crushyiffdestroy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2746 Monty Python furries] - [[Crush Yiff Destroy]] forums (March 11, 2007)</ref> the sketch is generally accepted as a satire of period coverage of [[homosexuality]] (the [[Wikipedia:Stonewall riots|Stonewall riots]] had taken place just a few months before).<ref>''[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.homosexuality/browse_thread/thread/64a41e599213d29a/6bd2c10e10073d23?lnk=st&rnum=12&hl=en#6bd2c10e10073d23 The Mouse Problem]'' - [news://alt.politics.homosexuality alt.politics.homosexuality] (June 28, 1999)</ref> Some members of the [[furry fandom]] find it interesting to compare this satire with [[Timeline of media coverage|media coverage of furry fandom in the present day]]. The sketch is "re-discovered every few years" by those new to the fandom.<ref>''[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.furry/browse_thread/thread/5f2e3070772bfb6d Monty Python's "Mouse Problem" sketch]'' - [[alt.fan.furry]] (November 20, 1998)</ref><ref>''[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.furry/browse_thread/thread/1bd85490d0524527 Monty Python and The Mouse Problem]'' - alt.fan.furry (May 17, 2001)</ref><ref>''[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.furry/browse_thread/thread/4cbd750e1993d181 Mouse Problem - Monty Python] - alt.fan.furry (August 1, 2006)</ref>

The sketch was reportedly cut on rebroadcast into the USA, eliminating the section with The Amazing Kargol. Some suggest that this is due to the promotion of [[bestiality]], arson and murder, all of which were hot topics in mid-1970s USA.<ref>''[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.monty-python/browse_thread/thread/2f37f107da63d41f Monty Python #1: Edit]'' - [news://alt.fan.monty-python alt.fan.monty-python] (January 1, 1999)</ref>

== Transcript ==
<div style="float:right;padding-left:5px;"><youtube>Ihuv5z6nqWw</youtube></div>
=== First act ===
The curtain rises on a crowd of protesters holding signs up as the show's title appears - ''The World Around Us''.<ref>''The World Around Us'' is probably a spoof of long-running [[Wikipedia:investigative journalism|investigative journalism]] show ''[[Wikipedia:Panorama|Panorama]]''</ref>

The signs read:

* Hands Off Mice
* End Discrimination: Mice is Nice!
* REPEAL!! Anti-mouse Laws <u>Now!</u>
* Ho Ho Ho... Traps Must GO

They are followed by a cut to shots of the ''[[Wikipedia:News of the World|News of the World]]'' ("Pop Stars in Mouse Scandal"), and the ''[[Wikipedia:Daily Express|Daily Express]]'' ("Peer Faces Rodent Charges"). A policeman is shown taking a mouse-costumed individual into a police station, overlaid by the title - ''The Mouse Problem''.

The camera cuts to another newspaper shot, of the ''[[Wikipedia:The Times|Times]]'' ("Mouse Clubs on the Increase"), followed by several [[Wikipedia:strip tease|strip tease]] establishments advertising "Squeakerama", "The Little White Rodent Room", the "Eek Eek Club", and "Caerphilly a Go Go".<ref>[[Wikipedia:Caerphilly cheese|Caerphilly cheese]] would become a staple of ''Monty Python'', made infamous by the [[Wikipedia:Cheese Shop sketch|"Cheese Shop" sketch]]</ref>
=== Second act ===
''A presenter is revealed''
:Presenter (Michael Palin): Yes, the mouse problem. This week, ''The World Around Us'' looks at the growing social phenomenon of mice and men. What makes a man ''want'' to be a mouse?

''Cut to documentary-style opposing-chairs interview of a young male (Mr. A):''
:Mr. A (John Cleese): Well, uh, it's not a question of wanting to be a mouse. It just sort of happens to you. Erm . . . all of a sudden, you realize - that's what you wanna be.
:Interviewer (Terry Jones): And when did you first notice these - shall we say - tendencies?
:Mr. A: Well, I was about 17, and, uh, some mates and me . . . went to a party. And, uh, well, we had quite a lot to drink, and then some of the fellas there . . . started . . . handin' cheese around. Well, just out of curiosity, I tried a bit, and . . . well, that was that.
:Interviewer: Yes, and what else did these fellows do?
:Mr. A: Well, some of them started . . . dressing up as mice a bit, um. And then when they got the costumes on, they . . . started . . . squeaking.
:Interviewer: And was that all?
:Mr. A (hurriedly): That was ''all''.
:Interviewer: And what was your reaction to all this?
:Mr. A: Well, I was shocked.
:Interviewer: Yes.
:Mr. A: But, uh . . . gradually I came to feel that I was more at ease with other mice.

=== Third act ===

''We return to the studio''
:Presenter: A typical case, whom we shall refer to as Mr. A - although his real name is this:
<pre>
ARTHUR JACKSON,
32a MILTON AVENUE,
HOUNDSLOUGH
MIDDX.
</pre>
:Presenter: What is it that attracts someone like Mr. A to this way of life? I have with me a consultant psychiatrist.
''The Amazing Kargol (Graham Chapman) puts out sign: "The Amazing Kargol and Janet"''
:The Amazing Kargol: Well, we just heard a typical case history. I myself have over 700 similar histories, all fully documented. Would you . . . care to choose one?
''Camera pans to show Janet in a conjurer's assistant's costume, offering a fan of cards with one prominently positioned, which the presenter picks.''
:The Amazing Kargol: Mr. Arthur Aldridge of . . . Lemmington!
:Presenter: Well, that's amazing.
:The Amazing Kargol: Thank you.
:Presenter: Thank you, Janet.
Janet walks off to 'tah-dah' music.
:Presenter: Kargol, speaking as a psychiatrist, as opposed to a conjurer . . .
:Kargol: Oh.
:Presenter: What makes certain men want to be mice?
:Kargol: Well, we psychiatrists have found that over 8% of the population will always be mice. I mean, after all, there's something of the mouse in all of us. I mean, how many of us can honestly say . . .
''The presenter starts nodding''
:Kargol: . . . that at one time or another he hasn't felt sexually attracted to mice.
''The presenter stops nodding''
:Kargol: I know I have. I mean, most normal adolescents go through a stage of squeaking; two or three times a day. Most youngesters, on the other hand . . . some youngsters, are attracted to it by its very illegality. It's like murder. Make a thing illegal, and it acquires a mystique. I mean, look at arson.
''The presnter shows increasing signs of distraction''
:Kargol: How many of us can honestly say that at one time or another he hasn't set fire to some great public building. I know I have!
''Phone on the desk starts ringing, the presenter picks it up and muffles it under his arm''
:Kargol: The only way, the only way to bring the crime figures down is to reduce the number of offences. Get it out in the open! I know I have . . .
:Presenter: Mmm. The Amazing Kargol and Janet.

=== Fourth act ===
''The camera zooms swiftly onto the presenter''
:Presenter: What a lot of people don't realize is that a mouse, once accepted, can fulfill a very useful role in society. Indeed, there are examples throughout history of famous men, now known to have been mice.
''Cut to shot of [[Wikipedia:Julius Caesar|Julius Caesar]] (Chapman) on a hilltop''
:Caesar: Veni, vidi, vici.
''Caesar looks both ways.''
:Caesar: *eep*
''Cut to shot of [[Wikipedia:Napoleon I of France|Napoléon Bonaparte]] (Jones) in his famous hand-inside-shirt stance. Withdrawing the hand, he reveals that he was concealing a large wedge of cheese, which he takes a bite of.
:Presenter: And, of course, [[Wikipedia:Hilaire Belloc|Hilaire Belloc]]. But what is the attitude of . . .
:Random viking (Eric Idle): . . . the man in the street towards . . .
:Presenter: . . . this growing social problem?
''Cut to varied scenes of people in daily life''
:Window-cleaner (Idle): Clamp down on them.
:Presenter: How?
:Window-cleaner: I'd strangle 'em.
:Stockbroker (Cleese): Well, speaking as a member of the stock exchange, I would suck their brains out with a straw, uh, sell the widows and orphans, and go into South American zinc.
:Butcher (Jones): Yeah, uh, I'd stuff sparrows down their throats, uh, until the beaks stuck out through their stomach walls.
:Accountant (Chapman): Oh, uh, I'm a [[Wikipedia:Chartered Accountant|Chartered Accountant]], and consequentially too boring to be of any interest.
:Vicar (Cleese): I feel that these poor, unfortunate people should be free to live the lives of their own choice.
''The vicar motions up to scratch his ear, in the manner of a rodent''
:Porter (Jones): I'd, uh, split their nostrils open with a boat-hook, I think.
:Man in garden (Chapman): Oh, well, uh, they can't help it, can they? But, uh, there's nothing you can do about it, uh, so, I'd kill em.

=== Fifth act ===

''Back in the studio''
:Presenter: Clearly, the British public's view is a hostile one. Hostile.
''Yellow board with red writing, and elegant female voiceover: "Hostile!"''
:Presenter: But perhaps this is because so little is generally known of these mice-men. We have have some film now, taken at one of the notorious weekend mouse parties where these disgusting little perverts meet.
''Shot of people in mice costumes in silhouette''
:Presenter: Mr. A tells us what actually goes on at these mouse parties.
:Mr. A: Well, uh, first you get shown to your own private hole in the skirting-board. Uh, then you put the mouse skin on, um . . .
''Mr. A raises his upper lip in a mouselike fashion''
:Mr. A: Then you . . . scurry into the main room, and pr'haps, uh, take a run in the wheel.
:Presenter: The remainder of this film was taken secretly at one of these mouse parties by a BBC cameraman posing as a vole. As usual, we apologize for the poor quality of the film.
''Cut to shot of people in mice costumes gnawing ferociously at cheese (Their mouse heads make it impossible to identify the performers)''
:Mr. A: Well, uh, then you steal some cheese; Brie or Camembert, or Cheddar or Gouda if you're on the 'arder stuff. Erm, you might go and see one of the blue cheese films. Then . . . there's a big clock in the middle of the room, and about 12:50, you climb up it. And then . . .
''A shot of a poorly-disguised, mustached man (Idle?)in woman's clothing brandishing a chopping knife.
:Mr. A: . . . eventually the clock strikes 1:00, and you all run down.
:Confessor: What's that?
''The "woman" (Jones) starts to chop at a jumping mouse's tail with the knife.
:Mr. A: That's the farmer's wife.
:Presenter: Yes . . . perhaps we need to know more of these mice-men before we can really judge them. Perhaps not. Anyway, our 30 minutes are up.
''A sheep from a previous sketch flies over with a *BAAAH*, presenter takes out a gun and shoots it dead''
:Presenter: Goodnight!

== References ==
<references />

== External links ==
* ''[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ihuv5z6nqWw The Mouse Problem]'' ([http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK92NYwBMts backup]) This video has been removed from YouTube
* [http://orangecow.org/pythonet/sketches/mouse.htm Two] [http://www.geocities.com/fang_club/mouse_problem.html transcripts] of the sketch
[[Category:Television programs|Mouse Problem]]

The Mouse Problem

2009-01-11T16:38:36Z

Myron J Comus: /* Fourth act */

<div style="float:right">__TOC__</div>
'''''The Mouse Problem''''' was a [[Wikipedia:sketch comedy|sketch]] in [[Wikipedia:Monty Python's Flying Circus|Monty Python's Flying Circus]], a popular [[Wikipedia:British Broadcasting Corporation|BBC]] comedy series. The sketch was part of the second episode (''[[Wikipedia:List of Monty Python's Flying Circus episodes#2. Sex and Violence|Sex and Violence]]'') in the show's first series, first airing October 13, 1969. An audio version of the episode was distributed on side 1, track 5 of the [[Wikipedia:Monty Python's Flying Circus (album)|''Monty Python's Flying Circus'' album]], released in 1970.

Although occasionally assumed to be about illicit drugs,<ref>[http://www.crushyiffdestroy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2746 Monty Python furries] - [[Crush Yiff Destroy]] forums (March 11, 2007)</ref> the sketch is generally accepted as a satire of period coverage of [[homosexuality]] (the [[Wikipedia:Stonewall riots|Stonewall riots]] had taken place just a few months before).<ref>''[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.homosexuality/browse_thread/thread/64a41e599213d29a/6bd2c10e10073d23?lnk=st&rnum=12&hl=en#6bd2c10e10073d23 The Mouse Problem]'' - [news://alt.politics.homosexuality alt.politics.homosexuality] (June 28, 1999)</ref> Some members of the [[furry fandom]] find it interesting to compare this satire with [[Timeline of media coverage|media coverage of furry fandom in the present day]]. The sketch is "re-discovered every few years" by those new to the fandom.<ref>''[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.furry/browse_thread/thread/5f2e3070772bfb6d Monty Python's "Mouse Problem" sketch]'' - [[alt.fan.furry]] (November 20, 1998)</ref><ref>''[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.furry/browse_thread/thread/1bd85490d0524527 Monty Python and The Mouse Problem]'' - alt.fan.furry (May 17, 2001)</ref><ref>''[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.furry/browse_thread/thread/4cbd750e1993d181 Mouse Problem - Monty Python] - alt.fan.furry (August 1, 2006)</ref>

The sketch was reportedly cut on rebroadcast into the USA, eliminating the section with The Amazing Kargol. Some suggest that this is due to the promotion of [[bestiality]], arson and murder, all of which were hot topics in mid-1970s USA.<ref>''[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.monty-python/browse_thread/thread/2f37f107da63d41f Monty Python #1: Edit]'' - [news://alt.fan.monty-python alt.fan.monty-python] (January 1, 1999)</ref>

== Transcript ==
<div style="float:right;padding-left:5px;"><youtube>Ihuv5z6nqWw</youtube></div>
=== First act ===
The curtain rises on a crowd of protesters holding signs up as the show's title appears - ''The World Around Us''.<ref>''The World Around Us'' is probably a spoof of long-running [[Wikipedia:investigative journalism|investigative journalism]] show ''[[Wikipedia:Panorama|Panorama]]''</ref>

The signs read:

* Hands Off Mice
* End Discrimination: Mice is Nice!
* REPEAL!! Anti-mouse Laws <u>Now!</u>
* Ho Ho Ho... Traps Must GO

They are followed by a cut to shots of the ''[[Wikipedia:News of the World|News of the World]]'' ("Pop Stars in Mouse Scandal"), and the ''[[Wikipedia:Daily Express|Daily Express]]'' ("Peer Faces Rodent Charges"). A policeman is shown taking a mouse-costumed individual into a police station, overlaid by the title - ''The Mouse Problem''.

The camera cuts to another newspaper shot, of the ''[[Wikipedia:The Times|Times]]'' ("Mouse Clubs on the Increase"), followed by several [[Wikipedia:strip tease|strip tease]] establishments advertising "Squeakerama", "The Little White Rodent Room", the "Eek Eek Club", and "Caerphilly a Go Go".<ref>[[Wikipedia:Caerphilly cheese|Caerphilly cheese]] would become a staple of ''Monty Python'', made infamous by the [[Wikipedia:Cheese Shop sketch|"Cheese Shop" sketch]]</ref>
=== Second act ===
''A presenter is revealed''
:Presenter (Michael Palin): Yes, the mouse problem. This week, ''The World Around Us'' looks at the growing social phenomenon of mice and men. What makes a man ''want'' to be a mouse?

''Cut to documentary-style opposing-chairs interview of a young male (Mr. A):''
:Mr. A (John Cleese): Well, uh, it's not a question of wanting to be a mouse. It just sort of happens to you. Erm . . . all of a sudden, you realize - that's what you wanna be.
:Interviewer (Terry Jones): And when did you first notice these - shall we say - tendencies?
:Mr. A: Well, I was about 17, and, uh, some mates and me . . . went to a party. And, uh, well, we had quite a lot to drink, and then some of the fellas there . . . started . . . handin' cheese around. Well, just out of curiosity, I tried a bit, and . . . well, that was that.
:Interviewer: Yes, and what else did these fellows do?
:Mr. A: Well, some of them started . . . dressing up as mice a bit, um. And then when they got the costumes on, they . . . started . . . squeaking.
:Interviewer: And was that all?
:Mr. A (hurriedly): That was ''all''.
:Interviewer: And what was your reaction to all this?
:Mr. A: Well, I was shocked.
:Interviewer: Yes.
:Mr. A: But, uh . . . gradually I came to feel that I was more at ease with other mice.

=== Third act ===

''We return to the studio''
:Presenter: A typical case, whom we shall refer to as Mr. A - although his real name is this:
<pre>
ARTHUR JACKSON,
32a MILTON AVENUE,
HOUNDSLOUGH
MIDDX.
</pre>
:Presenter: What is it that attracts someone like Mr. A to this way of life? I have with me a consultant psychiatrist.
''The Amazing Kargol (Graham Chapman) puts out sign: "The Amazing Kargol and Janet"''
:The Amazing Kargol: Well, we just heard a typical case history. I myself have over 700 similar histories, all fully documented. Would you . . . care to choose one?
''Camera pans to show Janet in a conjurer's assistant's costume, offering a fan of cards with one prominently positioned, which the presenter picks.''
:The Amazing Kargol: Mr. Arthur Aldridge of . . . Lemmington!
:Presenter: Well, that's amazing.
:The Amazing Kargol: Thank you.
:Presenter: Thank you, Janet.
Janet walks off to 'tah-dah' music.
:Presenter: Kargol, speaking as a psychiatrist, as opposed to a conjurer . . .
:Kargol: Oh.
:Presenter: What makes certain men want to be mice?
:Kargol: Well, we psychiatrists have found that over 8% of the population will always be mice. I mean, after all, there's something of the mouse in all of us. I mean, how many of us can honestly say . . .
''The presenter starts nodding''
:Kargol: . . . that at one time or another he hasn't felt sexually attracted to mice.
''The presenter stops nodding''
:Kargol: I know I have. I mean, most normal adolescents go through a stage of squeaking; two or three times a day. Most youngesters, on the other hand . . . some youngsters, are attracted to it by its very illegality. It's like murder. Make a thing illegal, and it acquires a mystique. I mean, look at arson.
''The presnter shows increasing signs of distraction''
:Kargol: How many of us can honestly say that at one time or another he hasn't set fire to some great public building. I know I have!
''Phone on the desk starts ringing, the presenter picks it up and muffles it under his arm''
:Kargol: The only way, the only way to bring the crime figures down is to reduce the number of offences. Get it out in the open! I know I have . . .
:Presenter: Mmm. The Amazing Kargol and Janet.

=== Fourth act ===
''The camera zooms swiftly onto the presenter''
:Presenter: What a lot of people don't realize is that a mouse, once accepted, can fulfill a very useful role in society. Indeed, there are examples throughout history of famous men, now known to have been mice.
''Cut to shot of [[Wikipedia:Julius Caesar|Julius Caesar]] (Chapman) on a hilltop''
:Caesar: Veni, vidi, vici.
''Caesar looks both ways.''
:Caesar: *eep*
''Cut to shot of [[Wikipedia:Napoleon I of France|Napoléon Bonaparte]] (Jones) in his famous hand-inside-shirt stance. Withdrawing the hand, he reveals that he was concealing a large wedge of cheese, which he takes a bite of.
:Presenter: And, of course, [[Wikipedia:Hilaire Belloc|Hilaire Belloc]]. But what is the attitude of . . .
:Random viking (Eric Idle): . . . the man in the street towards . . .
:Presenter: . . . this growing social problem?
''Cut to varied scenes of people in daily life''
:Window-cleaner (Idle): Clamp down on them.
:Presenter: How?
:Window-cleaner: I'd strangle 'em.
:Stockbroker (Cleese): Well, speaking as a member of the stock exchange, I would suck their brains out with a straw, uh, sell the widows and orphans, and go into South American zinc.
:Butcher (Jones): Yeah, uh, I'd stuff sparrows down their throats, uh, until the beaks stuck out through their stomach walls.
:Accountant (Chapman): Oh, uh, I'm a [[Wikipedia:Chartered Accountant|Chartered Accountant]], and consequentially too boring to be of any interest.
:Vicar (Cleese): I feel that these poor, unfortunate people should be free to live the lives of their own choice.
''The vicar motions up to scratch his ear, in the manner of a rodent''
:Porter (Jones): I'd, uh, split their nostrils open with a boat-hook, I think.
:Man in garden (Chapman): Oh, well, uh, they can't help it, can they? But, uh, there's nothing you can do about it, uh, so, I'd kill em.

=== Fifth act ===

''Back in the studio''
:Presenter: Clearly, the British public's view is a hostile one. Hostile.
''Yellow board with red writing, and female voiceover: "Hostile!"''
:Presenter: But perhaps this is because so little is generally known of these mice-men. We have have some film now, taken at one of the notorious weekend mouse parties where these disgusting little perverts meet.
''Shot of people in mice costumes in silhouette''
:Presenter: Mr. A tells us what actually goes on at these mouse parties.
:Mr. A: Well, uh, first you get shown to your own private hole in the skirting-board. Uh, then you put the mouse skin on, um . . .
''Mr. A raises his upper lip in a mouselike fashion''
:Mr. A: Then you . . . scurry into the main room, and pr'haps, uh, take a run in the wheel.
:Presenter: The remainder of this film was taken secretly at one of these mouse parties by a BBC cameraman posing as a vole. As usual, we apologize for the poor quality of the film.
''Cut to shot of people in mice costumes gnawing ferouciously at cheese''
:Mr. A: Well, uh, then you steal some cheese; Brie or Camembert, or Cheddar or Gouda if you're on the 'arder stuff. Erm, you might go and see one of the blue cheese films. Then . . . there's a big clock in the middle of the room, and about 12:50, you climb up it. And then . . .
''A shot of a poorly-disguised man in woman's clothing brandishing a chopping knife.
:Mr. A: . . . eventually the clock strikes 1:00, and you all run down.
:Confessor: What's that?
''The "woman" starts to chop at a jumping mouse's tail with the knife.
:Mr. A: That's the farmer's wife.
:Presenter: Yes . . . perhaps we need to know more of these mice-men before we can really judge them. Perhaps not. Anyway, our 30 minutes are up.
''A sheep from a previous sketch flies over with a *BAAAH*, presenter takes out a gun and shoots it dead''
:Presenter: Goodnight!

== References ==
<references />

== External links ==
* ''[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ihuv5z6nqWw The Mouse Problem]'' ([http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK92NYwBMts backup]) This video has been removed from YouTube
* [http://orangecow.org/pythonet/sketches/mouse.htm Two] [http://www.geocities.com/fang_club/mouse_problem.html transcripts] of the sketch
[[Category:Television programs|Mouse Problem]]

The Mouse Problem

2009-01-11T16:33:40Z

Myron J Comus: /* Third act */

<div style="float:right">__TOC__</div>
'''''The Mouse Problem''''' was a [[Wikipedia:sketch comedy|sketch]] in [[Wikipedia:Monty Python's Flying Circus|Monty Python's Flying Circus]], a popular [[Wikipedia:British Broadcasting Corporation|BBC]] comedy series. The sketch was part of the second episode (''[[Wikipedia:List of Monty Python's Flying Circus episodes#2. Sex and Violence|Sex and Violence]]'') in the show's first series, first airing October 13, 1969. An audio version of the episode was distributed on side 1, track 5 of the [[Wikipedia:Monty Python's Flying Circus (album)|''Monty Python's Flying Circus'' album]], released in 1970.

Although occasionally assumed to be about illicit drugs,<ref>[http://www.crushyiffdestroy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2746 Monty Python furries] - [[Crush Yiff Destroy]] forums (March 11, 2007)</ref> the sketch is generally accepted as a satire of period coverage of [[homosexuality]] (the [[Wikipedia:Stonewall riots|Stonewall riots]] had taken place just a few months before).<ref>''[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.homosexuality/browse_thread/thread/64a41e599213d29a/6bd2c10e10073d23?lnk=st&rnum=12&hl=en#6bd2c10e10073d23 The Mouse Problem]'' - [news://alt.politics.homosexuality alt.politics.homosexuality] (June 28, 1999)</ref> Some members of the [[furry fandom]] find it interesting to compare this satire with [[Timeline of media coverage|media coverage of furry fandom in the present day]]. The sketch is "re-discovered every few years" by those new to the fandom.<ref>''[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.furry/browse_thread/thread/5f2e3070772bfb6d Monty Python's "Mouse Problem" sketch]'' - [[alt.fan.furry]] (November 20, 1998)</ref><ref>''[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.furry/browse_thread/thread/1bd85490d0524527 Monty Python and The Mouse Problem]'' - alt.fan.furry (May 17, 2001)</ref><ref>''[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.furry/browse_thread/thread/4cbd750e1993d181 Mouse Problem - Monty Python] - alt.fan.furry (August 1, 2006)</ref>

The sketch was reportedly cut on rebroadcast into the USA, eliminating the section with The Amazing Kargol. Some suggest that this is due to the promotion of [[bestiality]], arson and murder, all of which were hot topics in mid-1970s USA.<ref>''[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.monty-python/browse_thread/thread/2f37f107da63d41f Monty Python #1: Edit]'' - [news://alt.fan.monty-python alt.fan.monty-python] (January 1, 1999)</ref>

== Transcript ==
<div style="float:right;padding-left:5px;"><youtube>Ihuv5z6nqWw</youtube></div>
=== First act ===
The curtain rises on a crowd of protesters holding signs up as the show's title appears - ''The World Around Us''.<ref>''The World Around Us'' is probably a spoof of long-running [[Wikipedia:investigative journalism|investigative journalism]] show ''[[Wikipedia:Panorama|Panorama]]''</ref>

The signs read:

* Hands Off Mice
* End Discrimination: Mice is Nice!
* REPEAL!! Anti-mouse Laws <u>Now!</u>
* Ho Ho Ho... Traps Must GO

They are followed by a cut to shots of the ''[[Wikipedia:News of the World|News of the World]]'' ("Pop Stars in Mouse Scandal"), and the ''[[Wikipedia:Daily Express|Daily Express]]'' ("Peer Faces Rodent Charges"). A policeman is shown taking a mouse-costumed individual into a police station, overlaid by the title - ''The Mouse Problem''.

The camera cuts to another newspaper shot, of the ''[[Wikipedia:The Times|Times]]'' ("Mouse Clubs on the Increase"), followed by several [[Wikipedia:strip tease|strip tease]] establishments advertising "Squeakerama", "The Little White Rodent Room", the "Eek Eek Club", and "Caerphilly a Go Go".<ref>[[Wikipedia:Caerphilly cheese|Caerphilly cheese]] would become a staple of ''Monty Python'', made infamous by the [[Wikipedia:Cheese Shop sketch|"Cheese Shop" sketch]]</ref>
=== Second act ===
''A presenter is revealed''
:Presenter (Michael Palin): Yes, the mouse problem. This week, ''The World Around Us'' looks at the growing social phenomenon of mice and men. What makes a man ''want'' to be a mouse?

''Cut to documentary-style opposing-chairs interview of a young male (Mr. A):''
:Mr. A (John Cleese): Well, uh, it's not a question of wanting to be a mouse. It just sort of happens to you. Erm . . . all of a sudden, you realize - that's what you wanna be.
:Interviewer (Terry Jones): And when did you first notice these - shall we say - tendencies?
:Mr. A: Well, I was about 17, and, uh, some mates and me . . . went to a party. And, uh, well, we had quite a lot to drink, and then some of the fellas there . . . started . . . handin' cheese around. Well, just out of curiosity, I tried a bit, and . . . well, that was that.
:Interviewer: Yes, and what else did these fellows do?
:Mr. A: Well, some of them started . . . dressing up as mice a bit, um. And then when they got the costumes on, they . . . started . . . squeaking.
:Interviewer: And was that all?
:Mr. A (hurriedly): That was ''all''.
:Interviewer: And what was your reaction to all this?
:Mr. A: Well, I was shocked.
:Interviewer: Yes.
:Mr. A: But, uh . . . gradually I came to feel that I was more at ease with other mice.

=== Third act ===

''We return to the studio''
:Presenter: A typical case, whom we shall refer to as Mr. A - although his real name is this:
<pre>
ARTHUR JACKSON,
32a MILTON AVENUE,
HOUNDSLOUGH
MIDDX.
</pre>
:Presenter: What is it that attracts someone like Mr. A to this way of life? I have with me a consultant psychiatrist.
''The Amazing Kargol (Graham Chapman) puts out sign: "The Amazing Kargol and Janet"''
:The Amazing Kargol: Well, we just heard a typical case history. I myself have over 700 similar histories, all fully documented. Would you . . . care to choose one?
''Camera pans to show Janet in a conjurer's assistant's costume, offering a fan of cards with one prominently positioned, which the presenter picks.''
:The Amazing Kargol: Mr. Arthur Aldridge of . . . Lemmington!
:Presenter: Well, that's amazing.
:The Amazing Kargol: Thank you.
:Presenter: Thank you, Janet.
Janet walks off to 'tah-dah' music.
:Presenter: Kargol, speaking as a psychiatrist, as opposed to a conjurer . . .
:Kargol: Oh.
:Presenter: What makes certain men want to be mice?
:Kargol: Well, we psychiatrists have found that over 8% of the population will always be mice. I mean, after all, there's something of the mouse in all of us. I mean, how many of us can honestly say . . .
''The presenter starts nodding''
:Kargol: . . . that at one time or another he hasn't felt sexually attracted to mice.
''The presenter stops nodding''
:Kargol: I know I have. I mean, most normal adolescents go through a stage of squeaking; two or three times a day. Most youngesters, on the other hand . . . some youngsters, are attracted to it by its very illegality. It's like murder. Make a thing illegal, and it acquires a mystique. I mean, look at arson.
''The presnter shows increasing signs of distraction''
:Kargol: How many of us can honestly say that at one time or another he hasn't set fire to some great public building. I know I have!
''Phone on the desk starts ringing, the presenter picks it up and muffles it under his arm''
:Kargol: The only way, the only way to bring the crime figures down is to reduce the number of offences. Get it out in the open! I know I have . . .
:Presenter: Mmm. The Amazing Kargol and Janet.

=== Fourth act ===
''The camera zooms swiftly onto the presenter''
:Presenter: What a lot of people don't realize is that a mouse, once accepted, can fulfill a very useful role in society. Indeed, there are examples throughout history of famous men, now known to have been mice.
''Cut to shot of [[Wikipedia:Julius Caesar|Julius Caesar]] on a hilltop''
:Caesar: Veni, vidi, vici.
''Caesar looks both ways.''
:Caesar: *eep*
''Cut to shot of [[Wikipedia:Napoleon I of France|Napoléon Bonaparte]] in his famous hand-inside-shirt stance. Withdrawing the hand, he reveals that he was concealing a large wedge of cheese, which he takes a bite of.
:Presenter: And, of course, [[Wikipedia:Hilaire Belloc|Hilaire Belloc]]. But what is the attitude of . . .
:Random viking: . . . the man in the street towards . . .
:Presenter: . . . this growing social problem?
''Cut to varied scenes of people in daily life''
:Window-cleaner: Clamp down on them.
:Presenter: How?
:Window-cleaner: I'd strangle 'em.
:Stockbroker: Well, speaking as a member of the stock exchange, I would suck their brains out with a straw, uh, sell the widows and orphans, and go into South American zinc.
:Butcher: Yeah, uh, I'd stuff sparrows down their throats, uh, until the beaks stuck out through their stomach walls.
:Accountant: Oh, uh, I'm a [[Wikipedia:Chartered Accountant|Chartered Accountant]], and consequentially too boring to be of any interest.
:Vicar: I feel that these poor, unfortunate people should be free to live the lives of their own choice.
''The vicar motions up to scratch his ear, in the manner of a rodent''
:Porter: I'd, uh, split their nostrils open with a boat-hook, I think.
:Man in garden: Oh, well, uh, they can't help it, can they? But, uh, there's nothing you can do about it, uh, so, I'd kill em.

=== Fifth act ===

''Back in the studio''
:Presenter: Clearly, the British public's view is a hostile one. Hostile.
''Yellow board with red writing, and female voiceover: "Hostile!"''
:Presenter: But perhaps this is because so little is generally known of these mice-men. We have have some film now, taken at one of the notorious weekend mouse parties where these disgusting little perverts meet.
''Shot of people in mice costumes in silhouette''
:Presenter: Mr. A tells us what actually goes on at these mouse parties.
:Mr. A: Well, uh, first you get shown to your own private hole in the skirting-board. Uh, then you put the mouse skin on, um . . .
''Mr. A raises his upper lip in a mouselike fashion''
:Mr. A: Then you . . . scurry into the main room, and pr'haps, uh, take a run in the wheel.
:Presenter: The remainder of this film was taken secretly at one of these mouse parties by a BBC cameraman posing as a vole. As usual, we apologize for the poor quality of the film.
''Cut to shot of people in mice costumes gnawing ferouciously at cheese''
:Mr. A: Well, uh, then you steal some cheese; Brie or Camembert, or Cheddar or Gouda if you're on the 'arder stuff. Erm, you might go and see one of the blue cheese films. Then . . . there's a big clock in the middle of the room, and about 12:50, you climb up it. And then . . .
''A shot of a poorly-disguised man in woman's clothing brandishing a chopping knife.
:Mr. A: . . . eventually the clock strikes 1:00, and you all run down.
:Confessor: What's that?
''The "woman" starts to chop at a jumping mouse's tail with the knife.
:Mr. A: That's the farmer's wife.
:Presenter: Yes . . . perhaps we need to know more of these mice-men before we can really judge them. Perhaps not. Anyway, our 30 minutes are up.
''A sheep from a previous sketch flies over with a *BAAAH*, presenter takes out a gun and shoots it dead''
:Presenter: Goodnight!

== References ==
<references />

== External links ==
* ''[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ihuv5z6nqWw The Mouse Problem]'' ([http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK92NYwBMts backup]) This video has been removed from YouTube
* [http://orangecow.org/pythonet/sketches/mouse.htm Two] [http://www.geocities.com/fang_club/mouse_problem.html transcripts] of the sketch
[[Category:Television programs|Mouse Problem]]

The Mouse Problem

2009-01-11T16:30:00Z

Myron J Comus: /* Second act */

<div style="float:right">__TOC__</div>
'''''The Mouse Problem''''' was a [[Wikipedia:sketch comedy|sketch]] in [[Wikipedia:Monty Python's Flying Circus|Monty Python's Flying Circus]], a popular [[Wikipedia:British Broadcasting Corporation|BBC]] comedy series. The sketch was part of the second episode (''[[Wikipedia:List of Monty Python's Flying Circus episodes#2. Sex and Violence|Sex and Violence]]'') in the show's first series, first airing October 13, 1969. An audio version of the episode was distributed on side 1, track 5 of the [[Wikipedia:Monty Python's Flying Circus (album)|''Monty Python's Flying Circus'' album]], released in 1970.

Although occasionally assumed to be about illicit drugs,<ref>[http://www.crushyiffdestroy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2746 Monty Python furries] - [[Crush Yiff Destroy]] forums (March 11, 2007)</ref> the sketch is generally accepted as a satire of period coverage of [[homosexuality]] (the [[Wikipedia:Stonewall riots|Stonewall riots]] had taken place just a few months before).<ref>''[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.homosexuality/browse_thread/thread/64a41e599213d29a/6bd2c10e10073d23?lnk=st&rnum=12&hl=en#6bd2c10e10073d23 The Mouse Problem]'' - [news://alt.politics.homosexuality alt.politics.homosexuality] (June 28, 1999)</ref> Some members of the [[furry fandom]] find it interesting to compare this satire with [[Timeline of media coverage|media coverage of furry fandom in the present day]]. The sketch is "re-discovered every few years" by those new to the fandom.<ref>''[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.furry/browse_thread/thread/5f2e3070772bfb6d Monty Python's "Mouse Problem" sketch]'' - [[alt.fan.furry]] (November 20, 1998)</ref><ref>''[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.furry/browse_thread/thread/1bd85490d0524527 Monty Python and The Mouse Problem]'' - alt.fan.furry (May 17, 2001)</ref><ref>''[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.furry/browse_thread/thread/4cbd750e1993d181 Mouse Problem - Monty Python] - alt.fan.furry (August 1, 2006)</ref>

The sketch was reportedly cut on rebroadcast into the USA, eliminating the section with The Amazing Kargol. Some suggest that this is due to the promotion of [[bestiality]], arson and murder, all of which were hot topics in mid-1970s USA.<ref>''[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.monty-python/browse_thread/thread/2f37f107da63d41f Monty Python #1: Edit]'' - [news://alt.fan.monty-python alt.fan.monty-python] (January 1, 1999)</ref>

== Transcript ==
<div style="float:right;padding-left:5px;"><youtube>Ihuv5z6nqWw</youtube></div>
=== First act ===
The curtain rises on a crowd of protesters holding signs up as the show's title appears - ''The World Around Us''.<ref>''The World Around Us'' is probably a spoof of long-running [[Wikipedia:investigative journalism|investigative journalism]] show ''[[Wikipedia:Panorama|Panorama]]''</ref>

The signs read:

* Hands Off Mice
* End Discrimination: Mice is Nice!
* REPEAL!! Anti-mouse Laws <u>Now!</u>
* Ho Ho Ho... Traps Must GO

They are followed by a cut to shots of the ''[[Wikipedia:News of the World|News of the World]]'' ("Pop Stars in Mouse Scandal"), and the ''[[Wikipedia:Daily Express|Daily Express]]'' ("Peer Faces Rodent Charges"). A policeman is shown taking a mouse-costumed individual into a police station, overlaid by the title - ''The Mouse Problem''.

The camera cuts to another newspaper shot, of the ''[[Wikipedia:The Times|Times]]'' ("Mouse Clubs on the Increase"), followed by several [[Wikipedia:strip tease|strip tease]] establishments advertising "Squeakerama", "The Little White Rodent Room", the "Eek Eek Club", and "Caerphilly a Go Go".<ref>[[Wikipedia:Caerphilly cheese|Caerphilly cheese]] would become a staple of ''Monty Python'', made infamous by the [[Wikipedia:Cheese Shop sketch|"Cheese Shop" sketch]]</ref>
=== Second act ===
''A presenter is revealed''
:Presenter (Michael Palin): Yes, the mouse problem. This week, ''The World Around Us'' looks at the growing social phenomenon of mice and men. What makes a man ''want'' to be a mouse?

''Cut to documentary-style opposing-chairs interview of a young male (Mr. A):''
:Mr. A (John Cleese): Well, uh, it's not a question of wanting to be a mouse. It just sort of happens to you. Erm . . . all of a sudden, you realize - that's what you wanna be.
:Interviewer (Terry Jones): And when did you first notice these - shall we say - tendencies?
:Mr. A: Well, I was about 17, and, uh, some mates and me . . . went to a party. And, uh, well, we had quite a lot to drink, and then some of the fellas there . . . started . . . handin' cheese around. Well, just out of curiosity, I tried a bit, and . . . well, that was that.
:Interviewer: Yes, and what else did these fellows do?
:Mr. A: Well, some of them started . . . dressing up as mice a bit, um. And then when they got the costumes on, they . . . started . . . squeaking.
:Interviewer: And was that all?
:Mr. A (hurriedly): That was ''all''.
:Interviewer: And what was your reaction to all this?
:Mr. A: Well, I was shocked.
:Interviewer: Yes.
:Mr. A: But, uh . . . gradually I came to feel that I was more at ease with other mice.

=== Third act ===

''We return to the studio''
:Presenter: A typical case, whom we shall refer to as Mr. A - although his real name is this:
<pre>
ARTHUR JACKSON,
32a MILTON AVENUE,
HOUNDSLOUGH
MIDDX.
</pre>
:Presenter: What is it that attracts someone like Mr. A to this way of life? I have with me a consultant psychiatrist.
''The Amazing Kargol puts out sign: "The Amazing Kargol and Janet"''
:The Amazing Kargol: Well, we just heard a typical case history. I myself have over 700 similar histories, all fully documented. Would you . . . care to choose one?
''Camera pans to show Janet in a conjurer's assistant's costume, offering a fan of cards with one prominently positioned, which the presenter picks.''
:The Amazing Kargol: Mr. Arthur Aldridge of . . . Lemmington!
:Presenter: Well, that's amazing.
:The Amazing Kargol: Thank you.
:Presenter: Thank you, Janet.
Janet walks off to 'tah-dah' music.
:Presenter: Kargol, speaking as a psychiatrist, as opposed to a conjurer . . .
:Kargol: Oh.
:Presenter: What makes certain men want to be mice?
:Kargol: Well, we psychiatrists have found that over 8% of the population will always be mice. I mean, after all, there's something of the mouse in all of us. I mean, how many of us can honestly say . . .
''The presenter starts nodding''
:Kargol: . . . that at one time or another he hasn't felt sexually attracted to mice.
''The presenter stops nodding''
:Kargol: I know I have. I mean, most normal adolescents go through a stage of squeaking; two or three times a day. Most youngesters, on the other hand . . . some youngsters, are attracted to it by its very illegality. It's like murder. Make a thing illegal, and it acquires a mystique. I mean, look at arson.
''The presnter shows increasing signs of distraction''
:Kargol: How many of us can honestly say that at one time or another he hasn't set fire to some great public building. I know I have!
''Phone on the desk starts ringing, the presenter picks it up and muffles it under his arm''
:Kargol: The only way, the only way to bring the crime figures down is to reduce the number of offences. Get it out in the open! I know I have . . .
:Presenter: Mmm. The Amazing Kargol and Janet.

=== Fourth act ===
''The camera zooms swiftly onto the presenter''
:Presenter: What a lot of people don't realize is that a mouse, once accepted, can fulfill a very useful role in society. Indeed, there are examples throughout history of famous men, now known to have been mice.
''Cut to shot of [[Wikipedia:Julius Caesar|Julius Caesar]] on a hilltop''
:Caesar: Veni, vidi, vici.
''Caesar looks both ways.''
:Caesar: *eep*
''Cut to shot of [[Wikipedia:Napoleon I of France|Napoléon Bonaparte]] in his famous hand-inside-shirt stance. Withdrawing the hand, he reveals that he was concealing a large wedge of cheese, which he takes a bite of.
:Presenter: And, of course, [[Wikipedia:Hilaire Belloc|Hilaire Belloc]]. But what is the attitude of . . .
:Random viking: . . . the man in the street towards . . .
:Presenter: . . . this growing social problem?
''Cut to varied scenes of people in daily life''
:Window-cleaner: Clamp down on them.
:Presenter: How?
:Window-cleaner: I'd strangle 'em.
:Stockbroker: Well, speaking as a member of the stock exchange, I would suck their brains out with a straw, uh, sell the widows and orphans, and go into South American zinc.
:Butcher: Yeah, uh, I'd stuff sparrows down their throats, uh, until the beaks stuck out through their stomach walls.
:Accountant: Oh, uh, I'm a [[Wikipedia:Chartered Accountant|Chartered Accountant]], and consequentially too boring to be of any interest.
:Vicar: I feel that these poor, unfortunate people should be free to live the lives of their own choice.
''The vicar motions up to scratch his ear, in the manner of a rodent''
:Porter: I'd, uh, split their nostrils open with a boat-hook, I think.
:Man in garden: Oh, well, uh, they can't help it, can they? But, uh, there's nothing you can do about it, uh, so, I'd kill em.

=== Fifth act ===

''Back in the studio''
:Presenter: Clearly, the British public's view is a hostile one. Hostile.
''Yellow board with red writing, and female voiceover: "Hostile!"''
:Presenter: But perhaps this is because so little is generally known of these mice-men. We have have some film now, taken at one of the notorious weekend mouse parties where these disgusting little perverts meet.
''Shot of people in mice costumes in silhouette''
:Presenter: Mr. A tells us what actually goes on at these mouse parties.
:Mr. A: Well, uh, first you get shown to your own private hole in the skirting-board. Uh, then you put the mouse skin on, um . . .
''Mr. A raises his upper lip in a mouselike fashion''
:Mr. A: Then you . . . scurry into the main room, and pr'haps, uh, take a run in the wheel.
:Presenter: The remainder of this film was taken secretly at one of these mouse parties by a BBC cameraman posing as a vole. As usual, we apologize for the poor quality of the film.
''Cut to shot of people in mice costumes gnawing ferouciously at cheese''
:Mr. A: Well, uh, then you steal some cheese; Brie or Camembert, or Cheddar or Gouda if you're on the 'arder stuff. Erm, you might go and see one of the blue cheese films. Then . . . there's a big clock in the middle of the room, and about 12:50, you climb up it. And then . . .
''A shot of a poorly-disguised man in woman's clothing brandishing a chopping knife.
:Mr. A: . . . eventually the clock strikes 1:00, and you all run down.
:Confessor: What's that?
''The "woman" starts to chop at a jumping mouse's tail with the knife.
:Mr. A: That's the farmer's wife.
:Presenter: Yes . . . perhaps we need to know more of these mice-men before we can really judge them. Perhaps not. Anyway, our 30 minutes are up.
''A sheep from a previous sketch flies over with a *BAAAH*, presenter takes out a gun and shoots it dead''
:Presenter: Goodnight!

== References ==
<references />

== External links ==
* ''[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ihuv5z6nqWw The Mouse Problem]'' ([http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK92NYwBMts backup]) This video has been removed from YouTube
* [http://orangecow.org/pythonet/sketches/mouse.htm Two] [http://www.geocities.com/fang_club/mouse_problem.html transcripts] of the sketch
[[Category:Television programs|Mouse Problem]]

The Mouse Problem

2009-01-11T16:27:53Z

Myron J Comus: /* Second act */

<div style="float:right">__TOC__</div>
'''''The Mouse Problem''''' was a [[Wikipedia:sketch comedy|sketch]] in [[Wikipedia:Monty Python's Flying Circus|Monty Python's Flying Circus]], a popular [[Wikipedia:British Broadcasting Corporation|BBC]] comedy series. The sketch was part of the second episode (''[[Wikipedia:List of Monty Python's Flying Circus episodes#2. Sex and Violence|Sex and Violence]]'') in the show's first series, first airing October 13, 1969. An audio version of the episode was distributed on side 1, track 5 of the [[Wikipedia:Monty Python's Flying Circus (album)|''Monty Python's Flying Circus'' album]], released in 1970.

Although occasionally assumed to be about illicit drugs,<ref>[http://www.crushyiffdestroy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2746 Monty Python furries] - [[Crush Yiff Destroy]] forums (March 11, 2007)</ref> the sketch is generally accepted as a satire of period coverage of [[homosexuality]] (the [[Wikipedia:Stonewall riots|Stonewall riots]] had taken place just a few months before).<ref>''[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.homosexuality/browse_thread/thread/64a41e599213d29a/6bd2c10e10073d23?lnk=st&rnum=12&hl=en#6bd2c10e10073d23 The Mouse Problem]'' - [news://alt.politics.homosexuality alt.politics.homosexuality] (June 28, 1999)</ref> Some members of the [[furry fandom]] find it interesting to compare this satire with [[Timeline of media coverage|media coverage of furry fandom in the present day]]. The sketch is "re-discovered every few years" by those new to the fandom.<ref>''[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.furry/browse_thread/thread/5f2e3070772bfb6d Monty Python's "Mouse Problem" sketch]'' - [[alt.fan.furry]] (November 20, 1998)</ref><ref>''[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.furry/browse_thread/thread/1bd85490d0524527 Monty Python and The Mouse Problem]'' - alt.fan.furry (May 17, 2001)</ref><ref>''[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.furry/browse_thread/thread/4cbd750e1993d181 Mouse Problem - Monty Python] - alt.fan.furry (August 1, 2006)</ref>

The sketch was reportedly cut on rebroadcast into the USA, eliminating the section with The Amazing Kargol. Some suggest that this is due to the promotion of [[bestiality]], arson and murder, all of which were hot topics in mid-1970s USA.<ref>''[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.monty-python/browse_thread/thread/2f37f107da63d41f Monty Python #1: Edit]'' - [news://alt.fan.monty-python alt.fan.monty-python] (January 1, 1999)</ref>

== Transcript ==
<div style="float:right;padding-left:5px;"><youtube>Ihuv5z6nqWw</youtube></div>
=== First act ===
The curtain rises on a crowd of protesters holding signs up as the show's title appears - ''The World Around Us''.<ref>''The World Around Us'' is probably a spoof of long-running [[Wikipedia:investigative journalism|investigative journalism]] show ''[[Wikipedia:Panorama|Panorama]]''</ref>

The signs read:

* Hands Off Mice
* End Discrimination: Mice is Nice!
* REPEAL!! Anti-mouse Laws <u>Now!</u>
* Ho Ho Ho... Traps Must GO

They are followed by a cut to shots of the ''[[Wikipedia:News of the World|News of the World]]'' ("Pop Stars in Mouse Scandal"), and the ''[[Wikipedia:Daily Express|Daily Express]]'' ("Peer Faces Rodent Charges"). A policeman is shown taking a mouse-costumed individual into a police station, overlaid by the title - ''The Mouse Problem''.

The camera cuts to another newspaper shot, of the ''[[Wikipedia:The Times|Times]]'' ("Mouse Clubs on the Increase"), followed by several [[Wikipedia:strip tease|strip tease]] establishments advertising "Squeakerama", "The Little White Rodent Room", the "Eek Eek Club", and "Caerphilly a Go Go".<ref>[[Wikipedia:Caerphilly cheese|Caerphilly cheese]] would become a staple of ''Monty Python'', made infamous by the [[Wikipedia:Cheese Shop sketch|"Cheese Shop" sketch]]</ref>
=== Second act ===
''A presenter is revealed''
:Presenter [[(Michael Palin)]]: Yes, the mouse problem. This week, ''The World Around Us'' looks at the growing social phenomenon of mice and men. What makes a man ''want'' to be a mouse?

''Cut to documentary-style opposing-chairs interview of a young male (Mr. A) by a confessor''
:Mr. A: Well, uh, it's not a question of wanting to be a mouse. It just sort of happens to you. Erm . . . all of a sudden, you realize - that's what you wanna be.
:Confessor: And when did you first notice these - shall we say - tendencies?
:Mr. A: Well, I was about 17, and, uh, some mates and me . . . went to a party. And, uh, well, we had quite a lot to drink, and then some of the fellas there . . . started . . . handin' cheese around. Well, just out of curiosity, I tried a bit, and . . . well, that was that.
:Confessor: Yes, and what else did these fellows do?
:Mr. A: Well, some of them started . . . dressing up as mice a bit, um. And then when they got the costumes on, they . . . started . . . squeaking.
:Confessor: And was that all?
:Mr. A (hurriedly): That was ''all''.
:Confessor: And what was your reaction to all this?
:Mr. A: Well, I was shocked.
:Confessor: Yes.
:Mr. A: But, uh . . . gradually I came to feel that I was more at ease with other mice.

=== Third act ===

''We return to the studio''
:Presenter: A typical case, whom we shall refer to as Mr. A - although his real name is this:
<pre>
ARTHUR JACKSON,
32a MILTON AVENUE,
HOUNDSLOUGH
MIDDX.
</pre>
:Presenter: What is it that attracts someone like Mr. A to this way of life? I have with me a consultant psychiatrist.
''The Amazing Kargol puts out sign: "The Amazing Kargol and Janet"''
:The Amazing Kargol: Well, we just heard a typical case history. I myself have over 700 similar histories, all fully documented. Would you . . . care to choose one?
''Camera pans to show Janet in a conjurer's assistant's costume, offering a fan of cards with one prominently positioned, which the presenter picks.''
:The Amazing Kargol: Mr. Arthur Aldridge of . . . Lemmington!
:Presenter: Well, that's amazing.
:The Amazing Kargol: Thank you.
:Presenter: Thank you, Janet.
Janet walks off to 'tah-dah' music.
:Presenter: Kargol, speaking as a psychiatrist, as opposed to a conjurer . . .
:Kargol: Oh.
:Presenter: What makes certain men want to be mice?
:Kargol: Well, we psychiatrists have found that over 8% of the population will always be mice. I mean, after all, there's something of the mouse in all of us. I mean, how many of us can honestly say . . .
''The presenter starts nodding''
:Kargol: . . . that at one time or another he hasn't felt sexually attracted to mice.
''The presenter stops nodding''
:Kargol: I know I have. I mean, most normal adolescents go through a stage of squeaking; two or three times a day. Most youngesters, on the other hand . . . some youngsters, are attracted to it by its very illegality. It's like murder. Make a thing illegal, and it acquires a mystique. I mean, look at arson.
''The presnter shows increasing signs of distraction''
:Kargol: How many of us can honestly say that at one time or another he hasn't set fire to some great public building. I know I have!
''Phone on the desk starts ringing, the presenter picks it up and muffles it under his arm''
:Kargol: The only way, the only way to bring the crime figures down is to reduce the number of offences. Get it out in the open! I know I have . . .
:Presenter: Mmm. The Amazing Kargol and Janet.

=== Fourth act ===
''The camera zooms swiftly onto the presenter''
:Presenter: What a lot of people don't realize is that a mouse, once accepted, can fulfill a very useful role in society. Indeed, there are examples throughout history of famous men, now known to have been mice.
''Cut to shot of [[Wikipedia:Julius Caesar|Julius Caesar]] on a hilltop''
:Caesar: Veni, vidi, vici.
''Caesar looks both ways.''
:Caesar: *eep*
''Cut to shot of [[Wikipedia:Napoleon I of France|Napoléon Bonaparte]] in his famous hand-inside-shirt stance. Withdrawing the hand, he reveals that he was concealing a large wedge of cheese, which he takes a bite of.
:Presenter: And, of course, [[Wikipedia:Hilaire Belloc|Hilaire Belloc]]. But what is the attitude of . . .
:Random viking: . . . the man in the street towards . . .
:Presenter: . . . this growing social problem?
''Cut to varied scenes of people in daily life''
:Window-cleaner: Clamp down on them.
:Presenter: How?
:Window-cleaner: I'd strangle 'em.
:Stockbroker: Well, speaking as a member of the stock exchange, I would suck their brains out with a straw, uh, sell the widows and orphans, and go into South American zinc.
:Butcher: Yeah, uh, I'd stuff sparrows down their throats, uh, until the beaks stuck out through their stomach walls.
:Accountant: Oh, uh, I'm a [[Wikipedia:Chartered Accountant|Chartered Accountant]], and consequentially too boring to be of any interest.
:Vicar: I feel that these poor, unfortunate people should be free to live the lives of their own choice.
''The vicar motions up to scratch his ear, in the manner of a rodent''
:Porter: I'd, uh, split their nostrils open with a boat-hook, I think.
:Man in garden: Oh, well, uh, they can't help it, can they? But, uh, there's nothing you can do about it, uh, so, I'd kill em.

=== Fifth act ===

''Back in the studio''
:Presenter: Clearly, the British public's view is a hostile one. Hostile.
''Yellow board with red writing, and female voiceover: "Hostile!"''
:Presenter: But perhaps this is because so little is generally known of these mice-men. We have have some film now, taken at one of the notorious weekend mouse parties where these disgusting little perverts meet.
''Shot of people in mice costumes in silhouette''
:Presenter: Mr. A tells us what actually goes on at these mouse parties.
:Mr. A: Well, uh, first you get shown to your own private hole in the skirting-board. Uh, then you put the mouse skin on, um . . .
''Mr. A raises his upper lip in a mouselike fashion''
:Mr. A: Then you . . . scurry into the main room, and pr'haps, uh, take a run in the wheel.
:Presenter: The remainder of this film was taken secretly at one of these mouse parties by a BBC cameraman posing as a vole. As usual, we apologize for the poor quality of the film.
''Cut to shot of people in mice costumes gnawing ferouciously at cheese''
:Mr. A: Well, uh, then you steal some cheese; Brie or Camembert, or Cheddar or Gouda if you're on the 'arder stuff. Erm, you might go and see one of the blue cheese films. Then . . . there's a big clock in the middle of the room, and about 12:50, you climb up it. And then . . .
''A shot of a poorly-disguised man in woman's clothing brandishing a chopping knife.
:Mr. A: . . . eventually the clock strikes 1:00, and you all run down.
:Confessor: What's that?
''The "woman" starts to chop at a jumping mouse's tail with the knife.
:Mr. A: That's the farmer's wife.
:Presenter: Yes . . . perhaps we need to know more of these mice-men before we can really judge them. Perhaps not. Anyway, our 30 minutes are up.
''A sheep from a previous sketch flies over with a *BAAAH*, presenter takes out a gun and shoots it dead''
:Presenter: Goodnight!

== References ==
<references />

== External links ==
* ''[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ihuv5z6nqWw The Mouse Problem]'' ([http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK92NYwBMts backup]) This video has been removed from YouTube
* [http://orangecow.org/pythonet/sketches/mouse.htm Two] [http://www.geocities.com/fang_club/mouse_problem.html transcripts] of the sketch
[[Category:Television programs|Mouse Problem]]

The Mouse Problem

2009-01-11T15:48:14Z

Myron J Comus: /* External links */

<div style="float:right">__TOC__</div>
'''''The Mouse Problem''''' was a [[Wikipedia:sketch comedy|sketch]] in [[Wikipedia:Monty Python's Flying Circus|Monty Python's Flying Circus]], a popular [[Wikipedia:British Broadcasting Corporation|BBC]] comedy series. The sketch was part of the second episode (''[[Wikipedia:List of Monty Python's Flying Circus episodes#2. Sex and Violence|Sex and Violence]]'') in the show's first series, first airing October 13, 1969. An audio version of the episode was distributed on side 1, track 5 of the [[Wikipedia:Monty Python's Flying Circus (album)|''Monty Python's Flying Circus'' album]], released in 1970.

Although occasionally assumed to be about illicit drugs,<ref>[http://www.crushyiffdestroy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2746 Monty Python furries] - [[Crush Yiff Destroy]] forums (March 11, 2007)</ref> the sketch is generally accepted as a satire of period coverage of [[homosexuality]] (the [[Wikipedia:Stonewall riots|Stonewall riots]] had taken place just a few months before).<ref>''[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.homosexuality/browse_thread/thread/64a41e599213d29a/6bd2c10e10073d23?lnk=st&rnum=12&hl=en#6bd2c10e10073d23 The Mouse Problem]'' - [news://alt.politics.homosexuality alt.politics.homosexuality] (June 28, 1999)</ref> Some members of the [[furry fandom]] find it interesting to compare this satire with [[Timeline of media coverage|media coverage of furry fandom in the present day]]. The sketch is "re-discovered every few years" by those new to the fandom.<ref>''[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.furry/browse_thread/thread/5f2e3070772bfb6d Monty Python's "Mouse Problem" sketch]'' - [[alt.fan.furry]] (November 20, 1998)</ref><ref>''[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.furry/browse_thread/thread/1bd85490d0524527 Monty Python and The Mouse Problem]'' - alt.fan.furry (May 17, 2001)</ref><ref>''[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.furry/browse_thread/thread/4cbd750e1993d181 Mouse Problem - Monty Python] - alt.fan.furry (August 1, 2006)</ref>

The sketch was reportedly cut on rebroadcast into the USA, eliminating the section with The Amazing Kargol. Some suggest that this is due to the promotion of [[bestiality]], arson and murder, all of which were hot topics in mid-1970s USA.<ref>''[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.monty-python/browse_thread/thread/2f37f107da63d41f Monty Python #1: Edit]'' - [news://alt.fan.monty-python alt.fan.monty-python] (January 1, 1999)</ref>

== Transcript ==
<div style="float:right;padding-left:5px;"><youtube>Ihuv5z6nqWw</youtube></div>
=== First act ===
The curtain rises on a crowd of protesters holding signs up as the show's title appears - ''The World Around Us''.<ref>''The World Around Us'' is probably a spoof of long-running [[Wikipedia:investigative journalism|investigative journalism]] show ''[[Wikipedia:Panorama|Panorama]]''</ref>

The signs read:

* Hands Off Mice
* End Discrimination: Mice is Nice!
* REPEAL!! Anti-mouse Laws <u>Now!</u>
* Ho Ho Ho... Traps Must GO

They are followed by a cut to shots of the ''[[Wikipedia:News of the World|News of the World]]'' ("Pop Stars in Mouse Scandal"), and the ''[[Wikipedia:Daily Express|Daily Express]]'' ("Peer Faces Rodent Charges"). A policeman is shown taking a mouse-costumed individual into a police station, overlaid by the title - ''The Mouse Problem''.

The camera cuts to another newspaper shot, of the ''[[Wikipedia:The Times|Times]]'' ("Mouse Clubs on the Increase"), followed by several [[Wikipedia:strip tease|strip tease]] establishments advertising "Squeakerama", "The Little White Rodent Room", the "Eek Eek Club", and "Caerphilly a Go Go".<ref>[[Wikipedia:Caerphilly cheese|Caerphilly cheese]] would become a staple of ''Monty Python'', made infamous by the [[Wikipedia:Cheese Shop sketch|"Cheese Shop" sketch]]</ref>
=== Second act ===
''A presenter is revealed''
:Presenter: Yes, the mouse problem. This week, ''The World Around Us'' looks at the growing social phenomenon of mice and men. What makes a man ''want'' to be a mouse?

''Cut to documentary-style opposing-chairs interview of a young male (Mr. A) by a confessor''
:Mr. A: Well, uh, it's not a question of wanting to be a mouse. It just sort of happens to you. Erm . . . all of a sudden, you realize - that's what you wanna be.
:Confessor: And when did you first notice these - shall we say - tendencies?
:Mr. A: Well, I was about 17, and, uh, some mates and me . . . went to a party. And, uh, well, we had quite a lot to drink, and then some of the fellas there . . . started . . . handin' cheese around. Well, just out of curiosity, I tried a bit, and . . . well, that was that.
:Confessor: Yes, and what else did these fellows do?
:Mr. A: Well, some of them started . . . dressing up as mice a bit, um. And then when they got the costumes on, they . . . started . . . squeaking.
:Confessor: And was that all?
:Mr. A (hurriedly): That was ''all''.
:Confessor: And what was your reaction to all this?
:Mr. A: Well, I was shocked.
:Confessor: Yes.
:Mr. A: But, uh . . . gradually I came to feel that I was more at ease with other mice.

=== Third act ===

''We return to the studio''
:Presenter: A typical case, whom we shall refer to as Mr. A - although his real name is this:
<pre>
ARTHUR JACKSON,
32a MILTON AVENUE,
HOUNDSLOUGH
MIDDX.
</pre>
:Presenter: What is it that attracts someone like Mr. A to this way of life? I have with me a consultant psychiatrist.
''The Amazing Kargol puts out sign: "The Amazing Kargol and Janet"''
:The Amazing Kargol: Well, we just heard a typical case history. I myself have over 700 similar histories, all fully documented. Would you . . . care to choose one?
''Camera pans to show Janet in a conjurer's assistant's costume, offering a fan of cards with one prominently positioned, which the presenter picks.''
:The Amazing Kargol: Mr. Arthur Aldridge of . . . Lemmington!
:Presenter: Well, that's amazing.
:The Amazing Kargol: Thank you.
:Presenter: Thank you, Janet.
Janet walks off to 'tah-dah' music.
:Presenter: Kargol, speaking as a psychiatrist, as opposed to a conjurer . . .
:Kargol: Oh.
:Presenter: What makes certain men want to be mice?
:Kargol: Well, we psychiatrists have found that over 8% of the population will always be mice. I mean, after all, there's something of the mouse in all of us. I mean, how many of us can honestly say . . .
''The presenter starts nodding''
:Kargol: . . . that at one time or another he hasn't felt sexually attracted to mice.
''The presenter stops nodding''
:Kargol: I know I have. I mean, most normal adolescents go through a stage of squeaking; two or three times a day. Most youngesters, on the other hand . . . some youngsters, are attracted to it by its very illegality. It's like murder. Make a thing illegal, and it acquires a mystique. I mean, look at arson.
''The presnter shows increasing signs of distraction''
:Kargol: How many of us can honestly say that at one time or another he hasn't set fire to some great public building. I know I have!
''Phone on the desk starts ringing, the presenter picks it up and muffles it under his arm''
:Kargol: The only way, the only way to bring the crime figures down is to reduce the number of offences. Get it out in the open! I know I have . . .
:Presenter: Mmm. The Amazing Kargol and Janet.

=== Fourth act ===
''The camera zooms swiftly onto the presenter''
:Presenter: What a lot of people don't realize is that a mouse, once accepted, can fulfill a very useful role in society. Indeed, there are examples throughout history of famous men, now known to have been mice.
''Cut to shot of [[Wikipedia:Julius Caesar|Julius Caesar]] on a hilltop''
:Caesar: Veni, vidi, vici.
''Caesar looks both ways.''
:Caesar: *eep*
''Cut to shot of [[Wikipedia:Napoleon I of France|Napoléon Bonaparte]] in his famous hand-inside-shirt stance. Withdrawing the hand, he reveals that he was concealing a large wedge of cheese, which he takes a bite of.
:Presenter: And, of course, [[Wikipedia:Hilaire Belloc|Hilaire Belloc]]. But what is the attitude of . . .
:Random viking: . . . the man in the street towards . . .
:Presenter: . . . this growing social problem?
''Cut to varied scenes of people in daily life''
:Window-cleaner: Clamp down on them.
:Presenter: How?
:Window-cleaner: I'd strangle 'em.
:Stockbroker: Well, speaking as a member of the stock exchange, I would suck their brains out with a straw, uh, sell the widows and orphans, and go into South American zinc.
:Butcher: Yeah, uh, I'd stuff sparrows down their throats, uh, until the beaks stuck out through their stomach walls.
:Accountant: Oh, uh, I'm a [[Wikipedia:Chartered Accountant|Chartered Accountant]], and consequentially too boring to be of any interest.
:Vicar: I feel that these poor, unfortunate people should be free to live the lives of their own choice.
''The vicar motions up to scratch his ear, in the manner of a rodent''
:Porter: I'd, uh, split their nostrils open with a boat-hook, I think.
:Man in garden: Oh, well, uh, they can't help it, can they? But, uh, there's nothing you can do about it, uh, so, I'd kill em.

=== Fifth act ===

''Back in the studio''
:Presenter: Clearly, the British public's view is a hostile one. Hostile.
''Yellow board with red writing, and female voiceover: "Hostile!"''
:Presenter: But perhaps this is because so little is generally known of these mice-men. We have have some film now, taken at one of the notorious weekend mouse parties where these disgusting little perverts meet.
''Shot of people in mice costumes in silhouette''
:Presenter: Mr. A tells us what actually goes on at these mouse parties.
:Mr. A: Well, uh, first you get shown to your own private hole in the skirting-board. Uh, then you put the mouse skin on, um . . .
''Mr. A raises his upper lip in a mouselike fashion''
:Mr. A: Then you . . . scurry into the main room, and pr'haps, uh, take a run in the wheel.
:Presenter: The remainder of this film was taken secretly at one of these mouse parties by a BBC cameraman posing as a vole. As usual, we apologize for the poor quality of the film.
''Cut to shot of people in mice costumes gnawing ferouciously at cheese''
:Mr. A: Well, uh, then you steal some cheese; Brie or Camembert, or Cheddar or Gouda if you're on the 'arder stuff. Erm, you might go and see one of the blue cheese films. Then . . . there's a big clock in the middle of the room, and about 12:50, you climb up it. And then . . .
''A shot of a poorly-disguised man in woman's clothing brandishing a chopping knife.
:Mr. A: . . . eventually the clock strikes 1:00, and you all run down.
:Confessor: What's that?
''The "woman" starts to chop at a jumping mouse's tail with the knife.
:Mr. A: That's the farmer's wife.
:Presenter: Yes . . . perhaps we need to know more of these mice-men before we can really judge them. Perhaps not. Anyway, our 30 minutes are up.
''A sheep from a previous sketch flies over with a *BAAAH*, presenter takes out a gun and shoots it dead''
:Presenter: Goodnight!

== References ==
<references />

== External links ==
* ''[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ihuv5z6nqWw The Mouse Problem]'' ([http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK92NYwBMts backup]) This video has been removed from YouTube
* [http://orangecow.org/pythonet/sketches/mouse.htm Two] [http://www.geocities.com/fang_club/mouse_problem.html transcripts] of the sketch
[[Category:Television programs|Mouse Problem]]

American Dad!

2009-01-11T04:45:33Z

Myron J Comus: /* External links */

[[Image:Underdog Productions logo.jpg|right|165px]]
[[Image:Fox Broadcasting logo.png|right|95px]]

'''''American Dad!''''' is a satirical American animated series produced by [[Underdog Productions]] and television producer [[Wikipedia:Seth MacFarlane|Seth MacFarlane's]] [[Wikipedia:Fuzzy Door Productions|Fuzzy Door Productions]] for [[Wikipedia:20th Century Fox Television|20th Century Fox Television]].

== American Dad! and furry ==
[[Image:StanAndBullockAmericanDadFurryConvention.jpg|right|thumb|210px|Stan and Bullock at a furry convention]]
The third episode of the fourth series, "One Little Word", included a short scene set within a furry [[convention]]. The spot involves the show's lead character, Stan, and his boss Bullock, and is within a larger scene involving Bullock's attempt to pick up a girl.

The pair start out at a regular nightclub, but after failing to find anything but tall, beautiful white women they proceed to hanging out in a [[Wikipedia:Goth|Goth]] bar, participating in a [[Wikipedia:line dance|line dance]] in a barn, playing [[Wikipedia:spin the bottle|spin the bottle]] with a group of teens, and at a furry convention.

In each case, they are shown wearing the appropriate clothing; at the convention, this is naturally a [[fursuit]].

After their conversation, a [[squirrel]] fursuiter shows up and appears to proposition Bullock for [[Wikipedia:anal sex|anal sex]]. On being turned down, he turns away.

In what appears to be a reference to [[Wikipedia:roadkill|roadkill]], a [[Wikipedia:car|car]]suiter (also with a male voice) appears and bumps into the squirrel, knocking him to the floor. The carsuiter proceeds to hump against the squirrel, apparently to their mutual enjoyment.

The car reappears at the end of the episode, humping the unconscious body of the show's space alien, Roger. He is revealed to be Dick, a member of Bullock's CIA staff.

== Quotes ==
{{q|Stan: Helping you pick up girls? That's our dangerous mission? -- Bullock: It is tonight, Number One. Now keep your eye out for the rarest of birds: the plump Asian [[Wikipedia:skank|skank]].}}
{{q|Carsuiter: Vroom. Vroom. *humps* -- Squirrel fursuiter: Oh yeah. I'm a squirrel, and that feels greeeaaatt.}}

== Reception ==
The clip was positively received within the fandom as a good case of humor not taken too far in nature.
* Social-network [[MyFursona]] temporarily changed it's banner image to read MyCarsona, featuring an image of the car-suiter from the episode.

== See also ==
* ''[[Wikipedia:American Dad!|American Dad!]]'' and [[Wikipedia:One Little Word (American Dad!)|One Little Word]] at Wikipedia

== External links ==
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDOM47GhwcE American Dad Furry Con] on YouTube
[[Category:Television series]][[Category:Media coverage]]

This segment has been removed from YouTube.

TFCentral

2009-01-08T15:41:31Z

Myron J Comus: /* Hosted users */

:''This page is about a [[:Category:Art archives|art archive]] and [[:Category:Story archives|story archive]].
{{rating-14-button2}}
'''TFCentral''' is a community portal that specializes in [[Transformation]] content. It also provides Free Hosting, Art Archive, Story Archive, Blog, Forums, and E-mail for the transformation community.

*'''Address''': http://www.tfcentral.com/
*'''Founder''': [[TFCAdmin]]
*'''Ran from/to''': 2002 - mid-2008

==About the site==
It is divided into several distinct areas:
*'''Hosting''': The jewel of TFCentral's offerings; free subdomain based hosting. Includes industry standard linux based webhosting tools.
*'''Art Archive''': A transformation art archive, based off of Menalto's Gallery 2 software. Anyone with a TFCentral account can publish their artworks.
*'''Story Archive''': A transformation story archive, allows reviewed submittion of stories and has full search and keyword indexing abilities.
*'''Blog''': Allows TFCentral members to share a piece of their lives, a journal per se.
*'''Forums''': Community forums based off of vBulletin software.
*'''Chat''': Live AJAX based chat service.
*'''Community Sites''': Links to other related, but not associated, web sites.
*'''E-mail''': Free *@tfcentral.com e-mail address. Utillizes [[WikiPedia:Gmail|Gmail]] technology.

==Hosted users==

TFCentral is home to many [[transformation]] and [[furry]] artists. A partial listing includes:
{| width="100%"
|- valign="top"
||
* [[Altair]]
* [[Americanwerewolf]]
* [[Chica]]
* [[Cigam]]
* [[Coffeeman]]
* [[Comus]]
* [[Creativesam]]
* [[Darkwolf]]
* [[Dontino]]
* [[Frostdrake]]
* [[Gemini]]
* [[Godfreak]]
* [[Grandstorm]]
||
* [[Helix]]
* [[Hikarune]]
* [[Kanada]]
* [[Kidcat]]
* [[kittyslade]]
* [[Kyubivash]]
* [[Lars]]
* [[Lemachi]]
* [[Lilac]]
* [[Loboleo]]
* [[Lowlyjack]]
* [[Luc]]
* [[Mitchell]]
* [[Modman]]
||
* [[Morphonix]]
* [[Narzil]]
* [[Nomadtf]]
* [[Osprey]]
* [[Pkht]]
* [[Quilak]]
* [[Redandsea]]
* [[Rexwolf]]
* [[Rta]]
* [[Rubberbando]]
* [[Ryukun]]
* [[Sarahstp]]
* [[Schmen]]
* [[Selenaskunk]]
||
* [[Sgimpy]]
* [[Sketch]]
* [[Somecat]]
* [[Somethingwild]]
* [[Soty]]
* [[Sveagle]]
* [[Tfseeker]]
* [[Valgron]]
* [[Werecoon]]
* [[Weredragon]]
* [[Wolfboy]]
* [[Wolvarr]]
* [[Xids]]
|}

However in recent months many TFCentral sites have vanished, without explanation from TFCentral's administrator(s).

==See also==
* [[Shapeshifting]]

[[Category:Art archives]]
[[Category:2002 births]]

TFCentral

2009-01-08T15:40:44Z

Myron J Comus: /* About the site */

:''This page is about a [[:Category:Art archives|art archive]] and [[:Category:Story archives|story archive]].
{{rating-14-button2}}
'''TFCentral''' is a community portal that specializes in [[Transformation]] content. It also provides Free Hosting, Art Archive, Story Archive, Blog, Forums, and E-mail for the transformation community.

*'''Address''': http://www.tfcentral.com/
*'''Founder''': [[TFCAdmin]]
*'''Ran from/to''': 2002 - mid-2008

==About the site==
It is divided into several distinct areas:
*'''Hosting''': The jewel of TFCentral's offerings; free subdomain based hosting. Includes industry standard linux based webhosting tools.
*'''Art Archive''': A transformation art archive, based off of Menalto's Gallery 2 software. Anyone with a TFCentral account can publish their artworks.
*'''Story Archive''': A transformation story archive, allows reviewed submittion of stories and has full search and keyword indexing abilities.
*'''Blog''': Allows TFCentral members to share a piece of their lives, a journal per se.
*'''Forums''': Community forums based off of vBulletin software.
*'''Chat''': Live AJAX based chat service.
*'''Community Sites''': Links to other related, but not associated, web sites.
*'''E-mail''': Free *@tfcentral.com e-mail address. Utillizes [[WikiPedia:Gmail|Gmail]] technology.

==Hosted users==

TFCentral is home to many [[transformation]] and [[furry]] artists. A partial listing includes:
{| width="100%"
|- valign="top"
||
* [[Altair]]
* [[Americanwerewolf]]
* [[Chica]]
* [[Cigam]]
* [[Coffeeman]]
* [[Comus]]
* [[Creativesam]]
* [[Darkwolf]]
* [[Dontino]]
* [[Frostdrake]]
* [[Gemini]]
* [[Godfreak]]
* [[Grandstorm]]
||
* [[Helix]]
* [[Hikarune]]
* [[Kanada]]
* [[Kidcat]]
* [[kittyslade]]
* [[Kyubivash]]
* [[Lars]]
* [[Lemachi]]
* [[Lilac]]
* [[Loboleo]]
* [[Lowlyjack]]
* [[Luc]]
* [[Mitchell]]
* [[Modman]]
||
* [[Morphonix]]
* [[Narzil]]
* [[Nomadtf]]
* [[Osprey]]
* [[Pkht]]
* [[Quilak]]
* [[Redandsea]]
* [[Rexwolf]]
* [[Rta]]
* [[Rubberbando]]
* [[Ryukun]]
* [[Sarahstp]]
* [[Schmen]]
* [[Selenaskunk]]
||
* [[Sgimpy]]
* [[Sketch]]
* [[Somecat]]
* [[Somethingwild]]
* [[Soty]]
* [[Sveagle]]
* [[Tfseeker]]
* [[Valgron]]
* [[Werecoon]]
* [[Weredragon]]
* [[Wolfboy]]
* [[Wolvarr]]
* [[Xids]]
|}

==See also==
* [[Shapeshifting]]

[[Category:Art archives]]
[[Category:2002 births]]

TFCentral

2009-01-08T15:40:17Z

Myron J Comus: /* About the site */

:''This page is about a [[:Category:Art archives|art archive]] and [[:Category:Story archives|story archive]].
{{rating-14-button2}}
'''TFCentral''' is a community portal that specializes in [[Transformation]] content. It also provides Free Hosting, Art Archive, Story Archive, Blog, Forums, and E-mail for the transformation community.

*'''Address''': http://www.tfcentral.com/
*'''Founder''': [[TFCAdmin]]
*'''Ran from/to''': 2002 - mid-2008

==About the site==
It is divided into several distinct areas:
*'''Hosting''': The jewel of TFCentral's offerings; free subdomain based hosting. Includes industry standard linux based webhosting tools.
*'''Art Archive''': A transformation art archive, based off of Menalto's Gallery 2 software. Anyone with a TFCentral account can publish their artworks.
*'''Story Archive''': A transformation story archive, allows reviewed submittion of stories and has full search and keyword indexing abilities.
*'''Blog''': Allows TFCentral members to share a piece of their lives, a journal per se.
*'''Forums''': Community forums based off of vBulletin software.
*'''Chat''': Live AJAX based chat service.
*'''Community Sites''': Links to other related, but not associated, web sites.
*'''E-mail''': Free *@tfcentral.com e-mail address. Utillizes [[WikiPedia:Gmail|Gmail]] technology.

In recent months many TFCentral sites have ceased to be accessible without explanation from TFCentral's administrator(s).

==Hosted users==

TFCentral is home to many [[transformation]] and [[furry]] artists. A partial listing includes:
{| width="100%"
|- valign="top"
||
* [[Altair]]
* [[Americanwerewolf]]
* [[Chica]]
* [[Cigam]]
* [[Coffeeman]]
* [[Comus]]
* [[Creativesam]]
* [[Darkwolf]]
* [[Dontino]]
* [[Frostdrake]]
* [[Gemini]]
* [[Godfreak]]
* [[Grandstorm]]
||
* [[Helix]]
* [[Hikarune]]
* [[Kanada]]
* [[Kidcat]]
* [[kittyslade]]
* [[Kyubivash]]
* [[Lars]]
* [[Lemachi]]
* [[Lilac]]
* [[Loboleo]]
* [[Lowlyjack]]
* [[Luc]]
* [[Mitchell]]
* [[Modman]]
||
* [[Morphonix]]
* [[Narzil]]
* [[Nomadtf]]
* [[Osprey]]
* [[Pkht]]
* [[Quilak]]
* [[Redandsea]]
* [[Rexwolf]]
* [[Rta]]
* [[Rubberbando]]
* [[Ryukun]]
* [[Sarahstp]]
* [[Schmen]]
* [[Selenaskunk]]
||
* [[Sgimpy]]
* [[Sketch]]
* [[Somecat]]
* [[Somethingwild]]
* [[Soty]]
* [[Sveagle]]
* [[Tfseeker]]
* [[Valgron]]
* [[Werecoon]]
* [[Weredragon]]
* [[Wolfboy]]
* [[Wolvarr]]
* [[Xids]]
|}

==See also==
* [[Shapeshifting]]

[[Category:Art archives]]
[[Category:2002 births]]

Comus

2009-01-08T15:38:02Z

Myron J Comus: Created page with 'Myron J Comus, aka "Comus," is the creator of the animal transformation-themed website "Circe's Funhouse." Comus first became fascinated by animal transformation as a child, wat...'

Myron J Comus, aka "Comus," is the creator of the animal transformation-themed website "Circe's Funhouse."

Comus first became fascinated by animal transformation as a child, watching Disney films like The Shaggy Dog[1] and The Sword in the Stone [2], and by learning about Circe [3] and Greek Mythology in elementary school. He began drawing and saving his own transformation pictures at this time, a collection that eventually went online as the Funhouse.

From 1999 to 2007 the Funhouse was online at the web address http://www.circesfunhouse.com, hosted first by TransFur and then by TF Central. In late 2007 TF Central ceased hosting the Funhouse without explanation. The original Funhouse site can still be viewed by going to:

http://www.archive.org

- and entering the Funhouse's TF Central address:

www-dot-comus-dot-tfcentral-com

- into the box labeled 'Wayback Machine.'

In recent years Comus' was not able to spare the time to update the Funhouse website and began posting his transformation art on Fur Affinity instead. This newer work can be viewed on his Fur Affinity page:

http://www.furaffinity.net/user/comus/

-which can also be accessed via the Funhouse's old URL:

http://www.circesfunhouse.com

User:Myron J Comus

2009-01-07T22:21:35Z

Myron J Comus, aka "Comus," is the creator of the animal [[transformation]]-themed website "Circe's Funhouse."

Comus first became fascinated by animal [[transformation]] as a child, watching Disney films like ''The Shaggy Dog''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shaggy_Dog] and ''The Sword in the Stone'' [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sword_in_the_Stone_(film)], and by learning about ''Circe'' [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circe] and Greek Mythology in elementary school. He began drawing and saving his own [[transformation]] pictures at this time, a collection that eventually went online as the Funhouse.

From 1999 to 2007 the Funhouse was online at the web address http://www.circesfunhouse.com, hosted first by TransFur and then by TF Central. In late 2007 TF Central ceased hosting the Funhouse without explanation. The original Funhouse site can still be viewed by going to:

http://www.archive.org

- and entering the Funhouse's TF Central address:

www-dot-comus-dot-tfcentral-com

- into the box labeled 'Wayback Machine.'

In recent years Comus' was not able to spare the time to update the Funhouse website and began posting his [[transformation]] art on Fur Affinity instead. This newer work can be viewed on his [[Fur Affinity]] page:

http://www.furaffinity.net/user/comus/

-which can also be accessed via the Funhouse's old URL:

http://www.circesfunhouse.com