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K'sharra

2010-11-15T17:16:43Z

Ksharra:

[[Image:Ksharra.jpg|right|thumb|275px|K'sharra's self-depiction of her furry persona]]
'''K'sharra''' (born 1982) is a [[furry artist]] who has been in the fandom since 1998. Her real-life last name has changed twice due to marriage and divorce, so her art is sometimes featured under different names, or simply under her furry name. She started in the [[furry fandom]] by doing simple artwork for friends, but quickly developed into more of an adult style. She has been a contributing artist for [[PlayMouse]], [[HotFurs]] and [[BondoFox]]. Her artwork is primarily marker and digital work, but has also included sculpted furry character pendants and [[Second Life]] avatars (no longer available). She also runs her own Cafepress store<ref name="cafepress">[http://www.cafepress.com/ksharra K'sharraCat Studios]</ref>.

K'sharra lives in Washington state, U.S.A. Some of the [[furry convention]]s she has attended include [[Anthrocon]], [[Midwest FurFest]], [[All Fur Fun]], [[Mephit Furmeet]], [[Rainfurrest]], [[Further Confusion]], and [[Oklacon]]. She was the conbook lead for RainFurrest 2007 and lead admin for [[FurBuy]] until 2008. She also regularly does art panels at Rainfurrest.

== Character ==

As a character, K'sharra is a [[female]] orange [[tigress]] with silver hair and sharp spiky bangs. She occasionally frequents [[FurryMUCK]], and is commonly featured as a subject of the artist's work. She owns a character in Second Life (''Ksharra Manimal'') but the account is no longer in use and the character has not been seen online in several years.

== Controversy ==

In April 2007, there was some controversy involving questionable bids on K'sharra's artwork by her at-the-time [[mate]], [[Jurann]], at [[All Fur Fun]] and on [[FurBid-SF]]. After All Fur Fun, K'sharra made a public post to the [[Artists Beware]] LiveJournal community stating "I have since talked to Jurann and made it clear that I do not condone price inflation."<ref name="toquote">[http://community.livejournal.com/artists_beware/129848.html To quote the Hitchhiker's Guide...] April 10, 2007 post by K'sharra to the [[artists_beware]] community on [[LiveJournal]]. Retrieved April 16, 2007. (Post deleted as of April 17, 2007. [http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:BtIEYl2ZLy0J:community.livejournal.com/artists_beware Cached copy of Artists_Beware front page], retrieved by Google on April 14, 2007.)</ref>

In a LiveJournal post, Jurann clarified that "Two of the pieces [on auction at AFF] in particular I liked and wanted to add to my collection ... and proceeded to bid on ONLY the two pieces I was personally interested in."<ref name="hijinks">[http://jurann.livejournal.com/138792.html "Auction Hijinks"] posted April 17, 2007 on [[LiveJournal]]. Retrieved December 24, 2007.</ref> He also later claimed that he only wanted to see them displayed in a larger art show as NFS, not re-sold. The attempt to resell the piece online was due in large part to a confusion of which pieces had and had not sold at the AFF auction, as Jurann explained in his LiveJournal: "I didn't make the ownership and intentions of what to do with the pieces I won at AFF clear to K'sharra. I would also point out that AFF did not give K'sharra any paperwork to explain which pieces sold and did not and for how much."<ref name="hijinks"/>

The convention staff have stated that they will "amend our policies for next year to discourage this as much as possible"<ref name="AFF">[http://forum.allfurfun.com/viewtopic.php?t=139 Art show question/gripe]. Thread on All Fur Fun forum. Started April 8, 2007. Retrieved April 18, 2007.</ref> but no action has been taken against either parties, as the con "had not said anything about [shill-bidding regulations] in our Art Show policies".<ref name="AFF"/> In regards to the incident on FurBid-SF, K'sharra's "account will be monitored, but she is not facing any direct disciplinary actions."<ref>[http://ayukawataur.livejournal.com/47657.html A recent issue]. April 15, 2007 LiveJournal post by [[Ayukawataur]]. Retrieved April 16, 2007.</ref> K'sharra is currently no longer mated to Jurann, and the pieces questionably bid upon by Jurann remain in his ownership as rightful purchases.

== References ==
<references/>

==External links==
{{Contributor|Ksharra}}
*[http://www.furaffinity.net/user/ksharra K'sharra] on [[Fur Affinity]]
*[http://us.vclart.net/vcl/Artists/K%27sharra/ K'sharra] on [[VCL]]

[[Category:People]]
[[Category:Artists]]
[[Category:Tiger characters]]
[[Category:FurryMUCK characters]]
[[Category:Second Life characters]]
[[Category:Washington]]
[[Category:1982 births]]

K'sharra

2010-11-15T16:55:29Z

Ksharra: /* Character */

[[Image:Ksharra.jpg|right|thumb|275px|K'sharra's self-depiction of her furry persona]]
'''K'sharra''' (born 1982) is a [[furry artist]] who has been in the fandom since 1998. Her real-life last name has changed twice due to marriage and divorce, so her art is sometimes featured under different names, or simply under her furry name. She started in the [[furry fandom]] by doing simple artwork for friends, but quickly developed into more of an adult style. She is a contributing artist for [[PlayMouse]], [[HotFurs]] and [[BondoFox]]. She also makes furry-themed necklace pendants and runs her own Cafepress store and [[Second Life]] [[avatar]] vendor.

K'sharra lives in Washington state, U.S.A. Some of the [[furry convention]]s she has attended include [[Anthrocon]], [[Midwest FurFest]], [[All Fur Fun]], [[Mephit Furmeet]], and [[Oklacon]]. She is the conbook lead for [[RainFurrest]] 2007 and lead admin for [[FurBuy]].

== Character ==

As a character, K'sharra is a [[female]] orange [[tigress]] with silver hair and sharp spiky bangs. She occasionally frequents [[FurryMUCK]], and is commonly featured as a subject of the artist's work. Her character in [[Second Life]] (''Ksharra Manimal'') exists but is no longer in use and has not been seen online in at least 2 years.

== Controversy ==

In April 2007, there was some controversy involving questionable bids on K'sharra's artwork by her at-the-time [[mate]], [[Jurann]], at [[All Fur Fun]] and on [[FurBid-SF]]. After All Fur Fun, K'sharra made a public post to the [[Artists Beware]] LiveJournal community stating "I have since talked to Jurann and made it clear that I do not condone price inflation."<ref name="toquote">[http://community.livejournal.com/artists_beware/129848.html To quote the Hitchhiker's Guide...] April 10, 2007 post by K'sharra to the [[artists_beware]] community on [[LiveJournal]]. Retrieved April 16, 2007. (Post deleted as of April 17, 2007. [http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:BtIEYl2ZLy0J:community.livejournal.com/artists_beware Cached copy of Artists_Beware front page], retrieved by Google on April 14, 2007.)</ref>

In a LiveJournal post, Jurann clarified that "Two of the pieces [on auction at AFF] in particular I liked and wanted to add to my collection ... and proceeded to bid on ONLY the two pieces I was personally interested in."<ref name="hijinks">[http://jurann.livejournal.com/138792.html "Auction Hijinks"] posted April 17, 2007 on [[LiveJournal]]. Retrieved December 24, 2007.</ref> He also later claimed that he only wanted to see them displayed in a larger art show as NFS, not re-sold. The attempt to resell the piece online was due in large part to a confusion of which pieces had and had not sold at the AFF auction, as Jurann explained in his LiveJournal: "I didn't make the ownership and intentions of what to do with the pieces I won at AFF clear to K'sharra. I would also point out that AFF did not give K'sharra any paperwork to explain which pieces sold and did not and for how much."<ref name="hijinks"/>

The convention staff have stated that they will "amend our policies for next year to discourage this as much as possible"<ref name="AFF">[http://forum.allfurfun.com/viewtopic.php?t=139 Art show question/gripe]. Thread on All Fur Fun forum. Started April 8, 2007. Retrieved April 18, 2007.</ref> but no action has been taken against either parties, as the con "had not said anything about [shill-bidding regulations] in our Art Show policies".<ref name="AFF"/> In regards to the incident on FurBid-SF, K'sharra's "account will be monitored, but she is not facing any direct disciplinary actions."<ref>[http://ayukawataur.livejournal.com/47657.html A recent issue]. April 15, 2007 LiveJournal post by [[Ayukawataur]]. Retrieved April 16, 2007.</ref> K'sharra is currently no longer mated to Jurann, and the pieces questionably bid upon by Jurann remain in his ownership as rightful purchases.

== References ==
<references/>

==External links==
{{Contributor|Ksharra}}
*[http://www.furaffinity.net/user/ksharra K'sharra] on [[Fur Affinity]]
*[http://us.vclart.net/vcl/Artists/K%27sharra/ K'sharra] on [[VCL]]

[[Category:People]]
[[Category:Artists]]
[[Category:Tiger characters]]
[[Category:FurryMUCK characters]]
[[Category:Second Life characters]]
[[Category:Washington]]
[[Category:1982 births]]

Orange04

2008-03-07T07:18:32Z

Ksharra: /* Controversy */

{{cleanup}}
'''Orange04''' is an [[artist]] whose [[species]] is a mixture of [[Red Fox]] and Eastern Blue Jay.<ref>Artist information at http://www.furaffinity.net/user/orange04/ Retrieved September 18, 2006.</ref>

== Controversy ==

In September 2006, Orange04 was reported on LiveJournal as having not provided artwork for a [[commission]] from February, nor completing her half of at least two [[art trade]]s.<ref>[http://community.livejournal.com/artists_beware/96779.html Orange04]. September 3, 2006 post to [[Artists Beware]] community on [[LiveJournal]], and comments. Retrieved September 18, 2006.</ref> This issue was later reported as Resolved on the same LiveJournal community.<ref>This controversy was resolved on January 8, 2007 referencing this LJ post to [[Artists Beware]] http://community.livejournal.com/artists_beware/119246.html</ref>

== References ==
<references/>

== External links ==
* [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/orange04/ Orange04] at [[Fur Affinity]]

{{person-stub}}

[[Category:People]]
[[Category:Artists]]
[[Category:Fox-hybrid characters]]
[[Category:Bird-hybrid characters]]

FurBuy

2008-03-07T07:15:59Z

Ksharra: /* Records */

[[Image:FurbuyLogo2.png|270px|right]]
'''FurBuy''' is an internet-based auction website primarily geared for selling [[furry]] items and items of interest to [[furry fans]].

* '''Address:''' http://www.furbuy.com/
* '''LiveJournal:''' http://community.livejournal.com/furbuy/
* '''Founder:''' [[Jurann]]
* '''Administrators:''' Jurann, [[K'sharra]]
* '''Ran from/to:''' 1 December 2000 - present
* '''Motto:''' ''Your Best Source for FREE Live Furry Auctions''

== History ==
[[Image:Furbuylogo04.gif|right]]
The system was custom-made by Jurann and went live to the public on 1 December 2000. Prior to release, several months of research, development and beta-testing by actual [[:Category:Artists|artists]] was performed; the entire pre-launch process took approximately 10 months to complete.

On November 3, 2001, FurBuy announced in the News section of the website that "FurBuy will be closing permanently on December 1st, 2001", with "Thanks to everyone for an exciting 15-month project".<ref>[http://www.disobey.com/ghostsites/show_exhibit/furbuy Ghost Sites: furbuy.jpg] on disobey.com. Last updated December 4, 2001. Retrieved July 4, 2007.</ref> As of late June 2003, FurBuy had "re-opened as a free website and auction system".<ref>[http://1134.org/stan/dot-com/gallery20/tn/furbuy.com.jpg.html Album: furbuy.com] on 1134.org. Retrieved July 4, 2007.</ref> Even though the system was no longer maintained and administrated, it remained online and operational during the period from December 4, 2001 through June 2003.

Initially FurBuy was based on a system that charged small fees for listing and closing auctions as well as enhanced features offered to sellers. After a couple of weeks of live service, it was decided that all fees would be dropped for use of the system due to a lack of users' desire to pay for such features. Since then the system has been completely free. FurBuy's features include image management/hosting, live auction status on foreign websites, co-branding capability and SMS/text-messaging.

[[Image:PorterSml.jpg|left]]
In 2007, K'sharra joined the FurBuy administration team and took over as Lead Admin. Shortly after, a completely revamped version of FurBuy's site layout was rolled out on July 2, 2007, including a new logo and various additional features.<ref>[http://community.livejournal.com/furbuy/6553.html The New FurBuy is Launched!] LiveJournal post by K'sharra. Retrieved March 2, 2008.</ref> Since then, the site has undergone many improvements, several of which have been a direct result of user suggestions and feedback.

In November of 2007, FurBuy held a mascot contest (which was later separated into a mascot contest and a T-shirt design contest) which resulted in FurBuy's first mascot: Porter the Packrat<ref>[http://www.furbuy.com/docs/contest.shtml FurBuy Mascot Contest] on FurBuy.com. Retrieved March 2, 2008.</ref> as designed by [[FurryVenus]]. As yet, the mascot has not been incorporated into the site design.

== Status ==

FurBuy is still hosting live auctions and is continually maintained and updated by its admins based on user feedback and interest. In mid-2006 FurBuy announced its partnership with [[FurAffinity]] and since then has been working with FurAffinity to develop crossover features.<ref>[http://community.livejournal.com/furbuy/4811.html It's Official]. July 20, 2006 LiveJournal post by Jurann. Retrieved May 4, 2007.</ref>

In May 2007, Jurann posted that FurBuy had "added the beginning of the FurAffinity linkages, allowing new and existing users both to set their FA username. [...] I'm also working with the folks at FA about getting linkages on their side setup".<ref>[http://jurann.livejournal.com/139782.html FurBuy Taking Off!] May 17, 2007 LiveJournal post by Jurann. Retrieved May 18, 2007.</ref>

In July 2007, FurBuy announced the addition of a feature to "add your [[VCL]] username to your account", which "adds a little icon after your name that links back to your VCL gallery".<ref name="VCL">[http://community.livejournal.com/furbuy/6870.html VCL Integration!] July 12, 2007 LiveJournal post by K'sharra. Retrieved July 13, 2007.</ref> In an added comment on the same post, Jurann stated that the addition of VCL links "actually precedes a deeper VCL integration that we were able to discuss with [[Ch'marr]] at [[AnthroCon]]."<ref name="VCL"/>

In February 2008, FurBuy announced its partnership with [[FURiends]] to provide non-adult auction listings on their website. Along with this partnership came the ability to "add your FURiends name to your profile under your My Account - Prefs page and a pawprint will appear by your name."<ref>[http://community.livejournal.com/furbuy/13017.html FURiends and Email Verification] February 28, 2008 LiveJournal post by K'sharra. Retrieved March 2, 2008.</ref>

== Records ==

The current record auction on FurBuy stands at US$4025.00 for a digital commission by seller [[Orange04]] that closed successfully on Mar 6, 2008.<ref>[http://www.furbuy.com/auctions/1003433.html FurBuy - View Auction #1003433] Mar 6, 2008 FurBuy. Retrieved Mar 6, 2008.</ref> The successful completion of the sale has yet to be confirmed by staff.

The previous confirmed record auction was US$3025.00 for a digital commission by seller [[Dark Nek0gami]] that closed successfully on Feb 23, 2008 and is confirmed by staff that the transaction completed smoothly between the buyer and seller.<ref>[http://www.furbuy.com/auctions/1003273.html FurBuy - View Auction #1003273] Feb 23, 2008 FurBuy. Retrieved Feb 25, 2008.</ref>

== References ==
<references/>

[[Category:Auction websites]]
[[Category:2000 births]]

FurBuy

2008-03-02T20:32:34Z

Ksharra: /* History */

[[Image:FurbuyLogo2.png|270px|right]]
'''FurBuy''' is an internet-based auction website primarily geared for selling [[furry]] items and items of interest to [[furry fans]].

* '''Address:''' http://www.furbuy.com/
* '''LiveJournal:''' http://community.livejournal.com/furbuy/
* '''Founder:''' [[Jurann]]
* '''Administrators:''' Jurann, [[K'sharra]]
* '''Ran from/to:''' 1 December 2000 - present
* '''Motto:''' ''Your Best Source for FREE Live Furry Auctions''

== History ==
[[Image:Furbuylogo04.gif|right]]
The system was custom-made by Jurann and went live to the public on 1 December 2000. Prior to release, several months of research, development and beta-testing by actual [[:Category:Artists|artists]] was performed; the entire pre-launch process took approximately 10 months to complete.

On November 3, 2001, FurBuy announced in the News section of the website that "FurBuy will be closing permanently on December 1st, 2001", with "Thanks to everyone for an exciting 15-month project".<ref>[http://www.disobey.com/ghostsites/show_exhibit/furbuy Ghost Sites: furbuy.jpg] on disobey.com. Last updated December 4, 2001. Retrieved July 4, 2007.</ref> As of late June 2003, FurBuy had "re-opened as a free website and auction system".<ref>[http://1134.org/stan/dot-com/gallery20/tn/furbuy.com.jpg.html Album: furbuy.com] on 1134.org. Retrieved July 4, 2007.</ref> Even though the system was no longer maintained and administrated, it remained online and operational during the period from December 4, 2001 through June 2003.

Initially FurBuy was based on a system that charged small fees for listing and closing auctions as well as enhanced features offered to sellers. After a couple of weeks of live service, it was decided that all fees would be dropped for use of the system due to a lack of users' desire to pay for such features. Since then the system has been completely free. FurBuy's features include image management/hosting, live auction status on foreign websites, co-branding capability and SMS/text-messaging.

[[Image:PorterSml.jpg|left]]
In 2007, K'sharra joined the FurBuy administration team and took over as Lead Admin. Shortly after, a completely revamped version of FurBuy's site layout was rolled out on July 2, 2007, including a new logo and various additional features.<ref>[http://community.livejournal.com/furbuy/6553.html The New FurBuy is Launched!] LiveJournal post by K'sharra. Retrieved March 2, 2008.</ref> Since then, the site has undergone many improvements, several of which have been a direct result of user suggestions and feedback.

In November of 2007, FurBuy held a mascot contest (which was later separated into a mascot contest and a T-shirt design contest) which resulted in FurBuy's first mascot: Porter the Packrat<ref>[http://www.furbuy.com/docs/contest.shtml FurBuy Mascot Contest] on FurBuy.com. Retrieved March 2, 2008.</ref> as designed by [[FurryVenus]]. As yet, the mascot has not been incorporated into the site design.

== Status ==

FurBuy is still hosting live auctions and is continually maintained and updated by its admins based on user feedback and interest. In mid-2006 FurBuy announced its partnership with [[FurAffinity]] and since then has been working with FurAffinity to develop crossover features.<ref>[http://community.livejournal.com/furbuy/4811.html It's Official]. July 20, 2006 LiveJournal post by Jurann. Retrieved May 4, 2007.</ref>

In May 2007, Jurann posted that FurBuy had "added the beginning of the FurAffinity linkages, allowing new and existing users both to set their FA username. [...] I'm also working with the folks at FA about getting linkages on their side setup".<ref>[http://jurann.livejournal.com/139782.html FurBuy Taking Off!] May 17, 2007 LiveJournal post by Jurann. Retrieved May 18, 2007.</ref>

In July 2007, FurBuy announced the addition of a feature to "add your [[VCL]] username to your account", which "adds a little icon after your name that links back to your VCL gallery".<ref name="VCL">[http://community.livejournal.com/furbuy/6870.html VCL Integration!] July 12, 2007 LiveJournal post by K'sharra. Retrieved July 13, 2007.</ref> In an added comment on the same post, Jurann stated that the addition of VCL links "actually precedes a deeper VCL integration that we were able to discuss with [[Ch'marr]] at [[AnthroCon]]."<ref name="VCL"/>

In February 2008, FurBuy announced its partnership with [[FURiends]] to provide non-adult auction listings on their website. Along with this partnership came the ability to "add your FURiends name to your profile under your My Account - Prefs page and a pawprint will appear by your name."<ref>[http://community.livejournal.com/furbuy/13017.html FURiends and Email Verification] February 28, 2008 LiveJournal post by K'sharra. Retrieved March 2, 2008.</ref>

== Records ==

The current record auction on FurBuy stands at US$3025.00 for a digital commission by seller [[Dark Nek0gami]] that closed successfully on Feb 23, 2008 and is confirmed by staff that the transaction has completed smoothly between the buyer and seller.<ref>[http://www.furbuy.com/auctions/1003273.html FurBuy - View Auction #1003273] Feb 23, 2008 FurBuy. Retrieved Feb 25, 2008.</ref>

== References ==
<references/>

[[Category:Auction websites]]
[[Category:2000 births]]

FurBuy

2008-03-02T20:30:58Z

Ksharra: /* History */

[[Image:FurbuyLogo2.png|270px|right]]
'''FurBuy''' is an internet-based auction website primarily geared for selling [[furry]] items and items of interest to [[furry fans]].

* '''Address:''' http://www.furbuy.com/
* '''LiveJournal:''' http://community.livejournal.com/furbuy/
* '''Founder:''' [[Jurann]]
* '''Administrators:''' Jurann, [[K'sharra]]
* '''Ran from/to:''' 1 December 2000 - present
* '''Motto:''' ''Your Best Source for FREE Live Furry Auctions''

== History ==
[[Image:Furbuylogo04.gif|right]]
The system was custom-made by Jurann and went live to the public on 1 December 2000. Prior to release, several months of research, development and beta-testing by actual [[:Category:Artists|artists]] was performed; the entire pre-launch process took approximately 10 months to complete.

On November 3, 2001, FurBuy announced in the News section of the website that "FurBuy will be closing permanently on December 1st, 2001", with "Thanks to everyone for an exciting 15-month project".<ref>[http://www.disobey.com/ghostsites/show_exhibit/furbuy Ghost Sites: furbuy.jpg] on disobey.com. Last updated December 4, 2001. Retrieved July 4, 2007.</ref> As of late June 2003, FurBuy had "re-opened as a free website and auction system".<ref>[http://1134.org/stan/dot-com/gallery20/tn/furbuy.com.jpg.html Album: furbuy.com] on 1134.org. Retrieved July 4, 2007.</ref> Even though the system was no longer maintained and administrated, it remained online and operational during the period from December 4, 2001 through June 2003.

Initially FurBuy was based on a system that charged small fees for listing and closing auctions as well as enhanced features offered to sellers. After a couple of weeks of live service, it was decided that all fees would be dropped for use of the system due to a lack of users' desire to pay for such features. Since then the system has been completely free. FurBuy's features include image management/hosting, live auction status on foreign websites, co-branding capability and SMS/text-messaging.

In 2007, K'sharra joined the FurBuy administration team and took over as Lead Admin. Shortly after, a completely revamped version of FurBuy's site layout was rolled out on July 2, 2007, including a new logo and various additional features.<ref>[http://community.livejournal.com/furbuy/6553.html The New FurBuy is Launched!] LiveJournal post by K'sharra. Retrieved March 2, 2008.</ref> Since then, the site has undergone many improvements, several of which have been a direct result of user suggestions and feedback.

[[Image:PorterSml.jpg|left]]
In November of 2007, FurBuy held a mascot contest (which was later separated into a mascot contest and a T-shirt design contest) which resulted in FurBuy's first mascot: Porter the Packrat<ref>[http://www.furbuy.com/docs/contest.shtml FurBuy Mascot Contest] on FurBuy.com. Retrieved March 2, 2008.</ref> as designed by [[FurryVenus]]. As yet, the mascot has not been incorporated into the site design.

== Status ==

FurBuy is still hosting live auctions and is continually maintained and updated by its admins based on user feedback and interest. In mid-2006 FurBuy announced its partnership with [[FurAffinity]] and since then has been working with FurAffinity to develop crossover features.<ref>[http://community.livejournal.com/furbuy/4811.html It's Official]. July 20, 2006 LiveJournal post by Jurann. Retrieved May 4, 2007.</ref>

In May 2007, Jurann posted that FurBuy had "added the beginning of the FurAffinity linkages, allowing new and existing users both to set their FA username. [...] I'm also working with the folks at FA about getting linkages on their side setup".<ref>[http://jurann.livejournal.com/139782.html FurBuy Taking Off!] May 17, 2007 LiveJournal post by Jurann. Retrieved May 18, 2007.</ref>

In July 2007, FurBuy announced the addition of a feature to "add your [[VCL]] username to your account", which "adds a little icon after your name that links back to your VCL gallery".<ref name="VCL">[http://community.livejournal.com/furbuy/6870.html VCL Integration!] July 12, 2007 LiveJournal post by K'sharra. Retrieved July 13, 2007.</ref> In an added comment on the same post, Jurann stated that the addition of VCL links "actually precedes a deeper VCL integration that we were able to discuss with [[Ch'marr]] at [[AnthroCon]]."<ref name="VCL"/>

In February 2008, FurBuy announced its partnership with [[FURiends]] to provide non-adult auction listings on their website. Along with this partnership came the ability to "add your FURiends name to your profile under your My Account - Prefs page and a pawprint will appear by your name."<ref>[http://community.livejournal.com/furbuy/13017.html FURiends and Email Verification] February 28, 2008 LiveJournal post by K'sharra. Retrieved March 2, 2008.</ref>

== Records ==

The current record auction on FurBuy stands at US$3025.00 for a digital commission by seller [[Dark Nek0gami]] that closed successfully on Feb 23, 2008 and is confirmed by staff that the transaction has completed smoothly between the buyer and seller.<ref>[http://www.furbuy.com/auctions/1003273.html FurBuy - View Auction #1003273] Feb 23, 2008 FurBuy. Retrieved Feb 25, 2008.</ref>

== References ==
<references/>

[[Category:Auction websites]]
[[Category:2000 births]]

File:PorterSml.jpg

2008-03-02T20:28:58Z

Ksharra:

FurBuy

2008-03-02T20:01:19Z

Ksharra: /* Records */ Spelling correction and name link

[[Image:FurbuyLogo2.png|270px|right]]
'''FurBuy''' is an internet-based auction website primarily geared for selling [[furry]] items and items of interest to [[furry fans]].

* '''Address:''' http://www.furbuy.com/
* '''LiveJournal:''' http://community.livejournal.com/furbuy/
* '''Founder:''' [[Jurann]]
* '''Administrators:''' Jurann, [[K'sharra]]
* '''Ran from/to:''' 1 December 2000 - present
* '''Motto:''' ''Your Best Source for FREE Live Furry Auctions''

== History ==
[[Image:Furbuylogo04.gif|right]]
The system was custom-made by Jurann and went live to the public on 1 December 2000. Prior to release, several months of research, development and beta-testing by actual [[:Category:Artists|artists]] was performed; the entire pre-launch process took approximately 10 months to complete.

On November 3, 2001, FurBuy announced in the News section of the website that "FurBuy will be closing permanently on December 1st, 2001", with "Thanks to everyone for an exciting 15-month project".<ref>[http://www.disobey.com/ghostsites/show_exhibit/furbuy Ghost Sites: furbuy.jpg] on disobey.com. Last updated December 4, 2001. Retrieved July 4, 2007.</ref> As of late June 2003, FurBuy had "re-opened as a free website and auction system".<ref>[http://1134.org/stan/dot-com/gallery20/tn/furbuy.com.jpg.html Album: furbuy.com] on 1134.org. Retrieved July 4, 2007.</ref> Even though the system was no longer maintained and administrated, it remained online and operational during the period from December 4, 2001 through June 2003.

Initially FurBuy was based on a system that charged small fees for listing and closing auctions as well as enhanced features offered to sellers. After a couple of weeks of live service, it was decided that all fees would be dropped for use of the system due to a lack of users' desire to pay for such features. Since then the system has been completely free. FurBuy's features include image management/hosting, live auction status on foreign websites, co-branding capability and SMS/text-messaging.

== Status ==

FurBuy is still hosting live auctions and is continually maintained and updated by its admins based on user feedback and interest. In mid-2006 FurBuy announced its partnership with [[FurAffinity]] and since then has been working with FurAffinity to develop crossover features.<ref>[http://community.livejournal.com/furbuy/4811.html It's Official]. July 20, 2006 LiveJournal post by Jurann. Retrieved May 4, 2007.</ref>

In May 2007, Jurann posted that FurBuy had "added the beginning of the FurAffinity linkages, allowing new and existing users both to set their FA username. [...] I'm also working with the folks at FA about getting linkages on their side setup".<ref>[http://jurann.livejournal.com/139782.html FurBuy Taking Off!] May 17, 2007 LiveJournal post by Jurann. Retrieved May 18, 2007.</ref>

In July 2007, FurBuy announced the addition of a feature to "add your [[VCL]] username to your account", which "adds a little icon after your name that links back to your VCL gallery".<ref name="VCL">[http://community.livejournal.com/furbuy/6870.html VCL Integration!] July 12, 2007 LiveJournal post by K'sharra. Retrieved July 13, 2007.</ref> In an added comment on the same post, Jurann stated that the addition of VCL links "actually precedes a deeper VCL integration that we were able to discuss with [[Ch'marr]] at [[AnthroCon]]."<ref name="VCL"/>

In February 2008, FurBuy announced its partnership with [[FURiends]] to provide non-adult auction listings on their website. Along with this partnership came the ability to "add your FURiends name to your profile under your My Account - Prefs page and a pawprint will appear by your name."<ref>[http://community.livejournal.com/furbuy/13017.html FURiends and Email Verification] February 28, 2008 LiveJournal post by K'sharra. Retrieved March 2, 2008.</ref>

== Records ==

The current record auction on FurBuy stands at US$3025.00 for a digital commission by seller [[Dark Nek0gami]] that closed successfully on Feb 23, 2008 and is confirmed by staff that the transaction has completed smoothly between the buyer and seller.<ref>[http://www.furbuy.com/auctions/1003273.html FurBuy - View Auction #1003273] Feb 23, 2008 FurBuy. Retrieved Feb 25, 2008.</ref>

== References ==
<references/>

[[Category:Auction websites]]
[[Category:2000 births]]

FurBuy

2008-03-02T19:57:51Z

Ksharra: /* Status */ Addition of FURiends integration

[[Image:FurbuyLogo2.png|270px|right]]
'''FurBuy''' is an internet-based auction website primarily geared for selling [[furry]] items and items of interest to [[furry fans]].

* '''Address:''' http://www.furbuy.com/
* '''LiveJournal:''' http://community.livejournal.com/furbuy/
* '''Founder:''' [[Jurann]]
* '''Administrators:''' Jurann, [[K'sharra]]
* '''Ran from/to:''' 1 December 2000 - present
* '''Motto:''' ''Your Best Source for FREE Live Furry Auctions''

== History ==
[[Image:Furbuylogo04.gif|right]]
The system was custom-made by Jurann and went live to the public on 1 December 2000. Prior to release, several months of research, development and beta-testing by actual [[:Category:Artists|artists]] was performed; the entire pre-launch process took approximately 10 months to complete.

On November 3, 2001, FurBuy announced in the News section of the website that "FurBuy will be closing permanently on December 1st, 2001", with "Thanks to everyone for an exciting 15-month project".<ref>[http://www.disobey.com/ghostsites/show_exhibit/furbuy Ghost Sites: furbuy.jpg] on disobey.com. Last updated December 4, 2001. Retrieved July 4, 2007.</ref> As of late June 2003, FurBuy had "re-opened as a free website and auction system".<ref>[http://1134.org/stan/dot-com/gallery20/tn/furbuy.com.jpg.html Album: furbuy.com] on 1134.org. Retrieved July 4, 2007.</ref> Even though the system was no longer maintained and administrated, it remained online and operational during the period from December 4, 2001 through June 2003.

Initially FurBuy was based on a system that charged small fees for listing and closing auctions as well as enhanced features offered to sellers. After a couple of weeks of live service, it was decided that all fees would be dropped for use of the system due to a lack of users' desire to pay for such features. Since then the system has been completely free. FurBuy's features include image management/hosting, live auction status on foreign websites, co-branding capability and SMS/text-messaging.

== Status ==

FurBuy is still hosting live auctions and is continually maintained and updated by its admins based on user feedback and interest. In mid-2006 FurBuy announced its partnership with [[FurAffinity]] and since then has been working with FurAffinity to develop crossover features.<ref>[http://community.livejournal.com/furbuy/4811.html It's Official]. July 20, 2006 LiveJournal post by Jurann. Retrieved May 4, 2007.</ref>

In May 2007, Jurann posted that FurBuy had "added the beginning of the FurAffinity linkages, allowing new and existing users both to set their FA username. [...] I'm also working with the folks at FA about getting linkages on their side setup".<ref>[http://jurann.livejournal.com/139782.html FurBuy Taking Off!] May 17, 2007 LiveJournal post by Jurann. Retrieved May 18, 2007.</ref>

In July 2007, FurBuy announced the addition of a feature to "add your [[VCL]] username to your account", which "adds a little icon after your name that links back to your VCL gallery".<ref name="VCL">[http://community.livejournal.com/furbuy/6870.html VCL Integration!] July 12, 2007 LiveJournal post by K'sharra. Retrieved July 13, 2007.</ref> In an added comment on the same post, Jurann stated that the addition of VCL links "actually precedes a deeper VCL integration that we were able to discuss with [[Ch'marr]] at [[AnthroCon]]."<ref name="VCL"/>

In February 2008, FurBuy announced its partnership with [[FURiends]] to provide non-adult auction listings on their website. Along with this partnership came the ability to "add your FURiends name to your profile under your My Account - Prefs page and a pawprint will appear by your name."<ref>[http://community.livejournal.com/furbuy/13017.html FURiends and Email Verification] February 28, 2008 LiveJournal post by K'sharra. Retrieved March 2, 2008.</ref>

== Records ==

The current record auction on FurBuy stands at US$3025.00 for a digital commission by seller Dark Nekogami that closed successfully on Feb 23, 2008 and is confirmed by staff that the transaction has completed smoothly between the buyer and seller.<ref>[http://www.furbuy.com/auctions/1003273.html FurBuy - View Auction #1003273] Feb 23, 2008 FurBuy. Retrieved Feb 25, 2008.</ref>

== References ==
<references/>

[[Category:Auction websites]]
[[Category:2000 births]]

Talk:Jurann

2007-12-25T18:41:10Z

Ksharra: /* The Ayukawataur and her updated comments */

==Bidding history==
i would ask that the references to the bidding history on furbid-sf be removed from this article, at least until after our internal investigation regarding the issue has been completed. i do not feel it is proper that this is being posted here when the full facts are unknown by the public at large.
--[[User:Ayukawataur|Ayukawataur : FurBid-SF Administaur]] 02:57, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

:I would say no. The information is posted elsewhere in publicly-available LiveJournal postings, and nothing is served by removing the information from WikiFur. An additional statement that Furbid-SF is investigating would be more appropriate, I should think, and once that investigation is complete you are welcome to add a link to wherever the conclusions are posted.----[[User:DuncanDaHusky|DuncanDaHusky]]([[User talk:DuncanDaHusky|talk]]) 03:07, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

:: i am sorry, i am forced to remove the access from the database under the user agreement: http://www.furbid.ws/cgi-bin/auction/help.pl?template=terms
:: Please refer to '''Article 6:'''
:: ''Privacy - We gather your information so that other people will have it on hand when they win your auction or you win their auction. Personal information is not sold or rented without your permission. Personal information sent to a user regarding a product bought or sold on the auction is not to be used for any other purpose, except for communication concerning the auction item. This also applies to any information which may be found on either the main auction site, or the Discussion Board.
:: As this information, and any interaction which you may participate in may have a long term effect on other users, and their accounts, this information will be stored permanently within our database. Upon creating an account on FurBid-SF, you waive any rights to have your personal information removed from the FurBid-SF database.''
:: at a later point i will add to the page what i can allow to be released.
:: --[[User:Ayukawataur|Ayukawataur : FurBid-SF Administaur]] 03:30, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

:::It is your site - but the facts of who made what bids are just that, facts. That article appears to refer to ''personal'' information - names, addresses, and phone numbers (which also happen to be facts) that are kept on file for sellers to contact buyers and vice versa rather than the bid history. We don't really care about his personal details stored on your site, because it's not relevant to the situation; none of us have access to it anyway.
:::As for the speculation on how your site works, you are free to end it by giving your own explanation. Looking at other bidding histories on the site, the explanation seems consistent with the bid history that I have here, and with that of other bidding sites, like eBay - a user's bid is increased in reaction to that of others up to the point where a later bidder places a maximum bid higher than that of the first bidder. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 04:33, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

:::: ''This also applies to any information which may be found on either the main auction site, or the Discussion Board.''
:::: Means any and all information which refers to the user, including bidding record. I only have made it available for persons who have a need to know, onsite. The information, as it stands right now is only the copy that gives the barebones bid-sheet, which is hypercondensed. The logs which I have are much more detailed, and explain in greater detail what happened. I also have many emails between all concerned parties, and logs of other conversations which all are part of the contributing factors to learning exactly what happened.
:::: There is much which will never be made public about how the system works. I am aware that many people will make assumptions based on what they see. And, yes the site is designed to use the proxy-methos, but it is styled a bit differently, based more on another model, which i am not at liberty to disclose where i picked it up. personal and such.
:::: What is worrying me most is that Jurann and FurBid-SF do not have a very happy relationship. I need to keep everything in this investigation 100% above board, lest someone accuse us of not being impartial and influenced by popular opinion.
:::: --[[User:Ayukawataur|Ayukawataur : FurBid-SF Administaur]] 04:56, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

== Moved from the article ==

[[User:Sine|Sine]] 06:43, 13 April 2007 (UTC): I've moved the following, added by Ayukawataur, from the article to the talk page:

'''Note:''': The [[Ayukawataur|Administaur]] of [[FurBid-SF]] has expressed concern over the interpretations which are being made over this issue. She has not released any information as to the internal investigation, or the internal workings of the server, the software, or the logs which are all part of her internal investigation. She also refuses, at this time, to release any content of her conversations with all parties which are directly involved with this issue until her internal investigation is complete. Her belief is that people should not base opinions on assumptions and rumor.

: i have posted my final decision about this. anyone who wishes to update his page in the proper format may reference:
: [http://ayukawataur.livejournal.com/47657.html link]
: --[[User:Ayukawataur|Ayukawataur : FurBid-SF Administaur]] 06:54, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

::Thank you for letting us know. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 06:58, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

::: seemed only fair. you were patient with and worked with me on my issues regarding this.
::: -[[User:Ayukawataur|Ayukawataur : FurBid-SF Administaur]] 07:08, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

:::: i would like to request that the word ban in the section "furbid ban" be changed to suspension. i would also appreciate if the name furbid were changed to "FurBid-SF".
:::: --[[User:Ayukawataur|Ayukawataur : FurBid-SF Administaur]] 22:58, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

== Additional suspicious blanking ==

Just for documentation/tracking purposes, I'd like to make mention that the IP address 71.231.178.155 (resoling to c-71-231-178-155.hsd1.wa.comcast.net, presumably Jurann) also engaged [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=K%27sharra&diff=132366&oldid=132363 in this blanking] of information in the [[K'sharra]] article that was critical of him, just one minute after [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Jurann&diff=prev&oldid=132365 this blanking] of the same/similar critical information from the [[Jurann]] article.

I find it suspicious that the subject of this article is trying to remove this sort of information. But maybe that's just me. --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 16:13, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

: It has been pointed out to me that this is not the first time that [http://groups.google.com/group/fur.artwork.erotica/msg/2bf94c2da024ed06 Jurann has engaged in auction hijnks]. It seems that he was banned from FurBid by its previous owner for abusing the system.

: Something else I noticed. From the current incident, the subject stated: ''"while I violated no policies of the art show"''
: From the previous Furbid incident, the [http://groups.google.com/group/fur.artwork.erotica/msg/1f8aa59a902b366b subject stated]: "''nowhere in Furbid's policies is anything mentioned about what I did being against policy''"

: Is it just me, or does this look like a case (2 cases, actually) of [[Wikipedia:Rules lawyer|Rules Lawyering]]? --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 16:28, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

::It's not so much the rules that concerns me, but that he ''should'' understand the spirit of them as well. In a reply to one of my own posts on the artists_beware thread, Jurann stated that he had been bidding in online auctions for 10 years and had attended 70 furry cons. His point was that I had far less experience than he in auctions. On that he was most likely correct, but that raises the question of why he's so surprised that people would at least be concerned about his actions. I tried to think up ways of bidding that would not result in such concerns, but was rebuffed.

::Funnily enough, the post that K'sharra made to artists_beware group, along with all the comments, has now been deleted - presumably by K'sharra herself, as I do not believe the administrators of that group would do it. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 16:46, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

== Request for exclusion / page blanking ==

In [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Jurann&diff=132367&oldid=132365 this edit], the attached article was replaced with:

:''Jurann and all information pertaining to Jurann, the character and the owner of the character, are the intellectual property of Timothy Rea, who has asked that any information pertaining to said character or person be removed from this system permanently.''

Given their [http://furry.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/71.231.178.155 other edits], I believe them to be [[User:Jurann]], who made an extra edit adding {{tl|Protected-Excluded}} to the page.

Jurann then replaced a section of this discussion page with the same template and the edit note "This is closed for discussion", and [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Jurann&diff=next&oldid=132378 subsequently erased the rest of the article].

Firstly, a couple of general points:
*[[Jurann]] is not "your page". It is WikiFur's article ''about'' you. It is a public resource, and attempting to blank it unilaterally is like attempting to delete a newsgroup or forum thread about you on a system which you do not control. Such changes will just be reverted without administrative approval.
*This discussion (or ''talk'') page is separate from the article itself. Personal exclusion is not applied to talk pages, and altering or removing the words of another user here is only considered acceptable under very exceptional circumstances, none of which apply here. It is an open discussion and you cannot "close it". Statements here are the opinions of those who make them (which is why they are signed), not representations of fact (including facts about other people's opinions) by WikiFur.

Specifically in response to your message: Users are free to give a description of someone else's character, as long as that description is not a copy of your creative work. For example, it would be fine for someone else to say "GreenReaper is a green norn who has dappled dark green fur on his shoulders and a large lime green mohawk", as this is merely their own description of my character. Obviously, taking your ''own'' description from FurryMUCK would be less acceptable, as that is a copyrighted work (you would have to submit that it here yourself, at which point it falls under the GFDL, which [[Project:Copyrights|permits further editing]]). Facts about your personal actions are certainly ''not'' your intellectual property, as they are not creative works - they are facts.

Regardless of copyright ownership, we do have a [[WikiFur:Personal information|policy on personal information]]. However, it is my belief that your actions in public auctions and the resulting opinions of others (and actions taken by them) are ''not'' covered by this. This information is not idle gossip, but directly related to your official position as Art Show director for [[RainFurrest]]. I'm open to discussion on this, but I personally feel that your actions in bidding on your mate's work are very much in the public interest, just as [[Starfinder]]'s commission delinquency or [[Banrai]]'s past art theft were, and are grounds for rejection of the exclusion request. It seems obvious to me that this is the reason that you made the request.

Having said the above, WikiFur should not be a biased source on this or any topic. This article should instead have a comprehensive and accurate representation of the facts. If there is important information that you feel has not been mentioned or which is inaccurately represented, you're welcome to work with us to improve it. However, if the plain facts of the situation are cause for concern for some - which, looking at the post on [[artists_beware]], they are - then it is likely that these people are going to come away with the same impression upon reading this article, no matter how these facts are presented.

If you wish, your real name, job and age can be removed (as they ''are'' protected items of personal information), unless someone can give a very good reason why it has particular relevance to the furry fandom. I have already removed the picture of your character myself, as there is no record of having either the author's permission to display it here, or your permission to do so. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 16:20, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

:You have been blocked by another administrator for repeated blanking of this page and [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Jurann&diff=prev&oldid=132479 legal threats]. Regarding your intent to file a complaint to Wikia, the appropriate method is likely to be [mailto:communtiy@wikia.com communtiy@wikia.com] in the first instance. They also have a [[Wikia:Designated agent|designated agent]] for DMCA takedown requests. If you do file such a request, be aware that we will file a challenge on the basis that this is the work of others and is not under your copyright. Stating the facts on the article about you and expressing our opinions about your actions here is not something that you can control, and your continued attempts to do so will not help your situation. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 17:16, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

:The information I specified above, along with his current location, have been removed from the article on request. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 22:50, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

: ''This is not a legal advice'' In Feist Publications, Inc. v. Rural Tel. Service Co., Inc., the Supreme Court found that raw data, such as names, phone numbers, towns, and so forth, were not original and so not subject to copyright protection because the information did not owe its creation or origin to the plaintiff. -- [[User:Wesha|Wesha]] 00:14, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

== Blanking history and timeline ==

Since the subject has now resorted to legal threats and threats to complain to Wikia, I'd like to document all activity from him thus far:

* [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Jurann&diff=prev&oldid=132365 3:51 EDT 17 April 2007] - Partial blanking of [[Jurann]]
* [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=K%27sharra&diff=prev&oldid=132366 3:52 EDT 17 April 2007] - Partial blanking of [[K'sharra]]
* [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Jurann&diff=next&oldid=132367 3:58 EDT 17 April 2007] - Complete blanking of [[Jurann]]
* [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Jurann&diff=next&oldid=132367 4:17 EDT 17 April 2007] - Improper adding of "Protected-Excluded" template
* [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Jurann&diff=prev&oldid=132378 5:03 EDT 17 April 2007] - Partial blanking of the article's Talk page. Improper addition of "Protected-Excluded" template.
* [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Jurann&diff=prev&oldid=132379 5:04 EDT 17 April 2007] - Complete blanking of the article's Talk page.
* [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Jurann&diff=prev&oldid=132466 12:59 EDT 17 April 2007] - Blanking of page. Improper adding of "Protected-Excluded" template.
* [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=K%27sharra&diff=prev&oldid=132475 13:01 EDT 17 April 2007] - Partial blanking of [[K'sharra]].
* 13:02 EDT 17 April 2007 - [[User:71.231.178.155]] blocked
* [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Jurann&diff=prev&oldid=132478 13:06 EDT 17 April 2007] - Blanking of page. Legal threat.
* [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Jurann&diff=prev&oldid=132479 13:07 EDT 17 April 2007] - Blanking of talk page. Legal threat.
* 13:08 EDT 17 April 2007 - [[User:Jurann]] blocked
* [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Jurann&diff=prev&oldid=132486 13:16 EDT 17 April 2007] - Reason for blocking left on user's talk page by [[User:GreenReaper]]
* [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Jurann&curid=9698&diff=132487&oldid=132480 13:16 EDT 17 April 2007] - Article blanked from a new IP (resolves to dsl092-244-248.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net). Subject commented: "''I can play the IP game all day long, you got all day to play with me?''"
* 13:20 EDT 17 April 2007 - Article protected

It should be noted that at no time did he actually dispute the contents of the article, or attempt to engage in discussion with us on this wiki. All communication from the subject consisted of comments such as [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Talk%3AJurann&diff=132378&oldid=132082 "This is closed for discussion"] and legal threats. --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 17:35, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

== Further ==

I have made my rebuttal and counterpoint along with a detailed list of supporting information including a timeline and a multi-point clarification of the issues involved in the events poorly described under the "Controversy" section. You can find it publicly available in my LiveJournal, along with the feedback and comments from other users concerning their opinions and clarifications as well. Enjoy. (I placed this above the sections below because this pertains to more than one of the sections, admins please feel free to reformat page as necessary.) [[User:Jurann|Jurann]] 20:29, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

:[[User:Sine|Sine]] 05:32, 21 April 2007 (UTC): I assume http://jurann.livejournal.com/138792.html ("Auction Hijinks", posted April 17, updated with "Clarifying the Misunderstandings" on April 18) is the post Jurann refers to above.
:Thoughts on what from it is appropriate to include in the article? Would it be best to simply drop it into the External links section?
:A couple of things might need [sic]ing if quoted. Throughout the post Jurann refers to K'sharra as his roomate. He also refers to Ayukwataur using male pronouns.
:Reading through the post and comments, there isn't something that jumps out at me as an obvious, brief summary from Jurann. Except perhaps something he wrote [http://jurann.livejournal.com/138792.html?thread=456744#t456744 in a comment posted today]: {{q|"I'm not blameless, but there are other people who share the blame for what's happened and none of them aside from K'sharra have been forthcoming or honest about it."}}
::I'll try and have a stab at this tomorrow/later today. Been tied up with other things for most of it. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 08:50, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

== The Ayukawataur and her updated comments ==
i know this may be late in game but, and i will be need to look up exact date. i am not at console so i can not check when the change was made. but, at anthrocon 2007 i had a long talk with both jurann and k'sharra. i was convinced they understood what the issue was and why he had been excluded from bidding. within a week after ac i removed his suspended status and he has again been allowed to use the system. though, he has elected not to.
: --[[User:Ayukawataur|Ayukawataur : FurBid-SF Administaur]] 06:41, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

:You cited entirely different reasons for the suspension between private emails to me and Jurann, your LiveJournal posts, WikiFur edits and discussions, and at Anthrocon. It is my understanding that Jurann continues to not use Furbid-SF because he feels uncomfortable about the vagueries surrounding his suspension and unwelcome due to his status as staff on a competing website.
:As it is, the matter is closed and well in the past. I was simply drawn to this post via a link regarding something completely different, and noticed that only one side of certain events had been posted, so felt compelled to provide more accurate and complete representation.
:--[[User:Ksharra|Ksharra]] 09:45, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

:: he should not feel uncomfortable. he is more than welcome, and always has been. other than his brief suspension based entirely on his actions and inability to understand what was wrong with such actions. sometimes, speaking to a person in a face to face situation is what is required to explain and make certain the other individual understands. furbid-sf has a larger user base, and he is missing out on the advantages of the listings which may be found there.
:: it should be noted, the emails between you, myself, and jurann were emails in which i was investigating, and attempting to gain information which was needed in order to make a decision, which was later posted on my livejournal after a fit was thrown in order to explain to the public exactly what was the reason, since said fit was not involving the truth.
:: as to why i have not released the absolute and complete story, as i have stated numerous times in the past. internal privacy policy does not allow me to explain any others actual bidding strategies as such may create an unfair disadvantage for the individual whom the strategy applies. if i am correct, this can also act as a citation, and may be referenced as such.
:: i agree, it belongs in the past. and, as you were drawn here by a post via a link, i was drawn here via an update link. i noticed it claimed he was still suspended, which is not true and felt compelled to make note it was inaccurate. there are other inaccuracies, but it is christmas morning, i think i am catching a cold, and i really wish to not debate this any more. please, have an excellent christmas, and i look forward to seeing both you and timothy at fc.
:: --[[User:Ayukawataur|Ayukawataur : FurBid-SF Administaur]] 18:10, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

:::As of yesterday he was still unable to access his account or use the password mailer. However, this may be due to the same technical difficulties which caused him to create a second account in the first place. Perhaps when you are over your cold, you could look into this further. Have a happy holiday, and feel better.
::: --[[User:Ksharra|Ksharra]] 18:41, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Jurann

2007-12-25T10:03:55Z

Ksharra: /* Fursona */

'''Jurann''', also known as '''Jurann Foxtail''', '''Kandykoon''', and as '''Jurann Kraken''' on [[Second Life]], is a member of the [[furry fandom]].

== Background ==

Jurann first surfaced in [[furry fandom]] early in 1995 on [[YiffNet]] IRC. The name was computer-generated using a random fantasy name generator created by the player.

Jurann appeared on [[FurryMUCK]], [[TigerMUCK]], and [[Tapestries]] in early 1996. He has a Mucker bit on FurryMUCK and writes [[MUF]] programs. He also built and maintains the [[Garden of Eden]] on FurryMUCK.

== Fursona ==

Although the character started out as a [[fox]], Jurann changed species to a [[Spotted Hyena]] sometime in early 2000 due to changing personality and outlook that seemed to coincide with the [[species]] change. In September 2006 he changed species again, to [[raccoon]].<ref>[http://jurann.livejournal.com/115142.html New Species]. September 24, 2006 LiveJournal post by Jurann. Retrieved September 24, 2006. (Post protected, ''i.e.'' no longer public, as of April 17, 2007.)</ref> On September 23, 2007, his character was redrawn by [[K'sharra]] as a [[polar bear]], resulting in yet another species change.

== Furry projects ==

As webmaster and programmer, Jurann has created or been involved in several [[furry]] and furry-related projects, including [[FurCen.Org]], [[Furry Grand Central]], the [[Furry Database]], [[FurBuy]], and [[FuroticaMUCK]].

He has also contributed to the [[Fuzzball]] [[TinyMUCK]] server project, and he was once the Assistant Admin of [[FurNation]].

== Staff roles ==

Jurann staffed [[ConiFur Northwest]] for 5 years as the Director of Internet and Gaming. He was going to be the Art Show Director of [[RainFurrest]],<ref>[http://community.livejournal.com/rainfurrest/638.html Looking for a few Good Staffers!]. March 4, 2007 post by Jurann to RainFurrest LiveJournal community. Retrieved April 10, 2007.</ref> scheduled for August 2007, until June 12th, when he was replaced on staff by [[Glen Wooten]] due to personal conflicts with the convention organization<ref>[http://jurann.livejournal.com/141606.html A Difference In Opinion]. June 14, 2007 post by Jurann to his LiveJournal. Retrieved June 14, 2007.</ref>.

== Controversy ==

=== Art bidding ===

In April 2007, K'sharra claimed that Jurann "outbid a couple of people on" pieces in a convention [[art show]] "because he felt they would sell for higher at a different con. At the end of the con, he paid for the pieces and gave them back" to the artist, his mate K'sharra, "to sell elsewhere."<ref>[http://community.livejournal.com/artists_beware/129848.html To quote the Hitchhiker's Guide...] April 10, 2007 post by [[K'sharra]] to the [[artists_beware]] community on [[LiveJournal]]. Retrieved April 11, 2007. (Post deleted as of April 17, 2007. [http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:BtIEYl2ZLy0J:community.livejournal.com/artists_beware Cached copy of Artists_Beware front page], retrieved by Google on April 14, 2007.)</ref>.

In a comment to K'sharra's post on [[Artists Beware]], Jurann stated
{{q|"I defended the pieces because I really like them and wanted them myself. But I'd also like to see them in a bigger art show where they'll get more attention. I suppose I made a boo-boo, because while I violated no policies of the art show, I'm being ethically challenged by all kinds of people for what I did."<ref>[http://community.livejournal.com/artists_beware/129848.html#t2796856 Comment by Jurann] posted April 11, 2007 to artists_beware. Retrieved April 11, 2007. (Post deleted as of April 17, 2007.)</ref>}} In a later post, Jurann clarified that "Two of the pieces [on auction at AFF] in particular I liked and wanted to add to my collection ... and proceeded to bid on ONLY the two pieces I was personally interested in."<ref name="hijinks">[http://jurann.livejournal.com/138792.html "Auction Hijinks"] posted April 17, 2007 on [[LiveJournal]]. Retrieved December 24, 2007.</ref> He also later claimed that he only wanted to see them displayed in a larger art show as NFS, not re-sold. The attempt to resell the piece online was due in large part to a confusion of which pieces had and had not sold at the AFF auction, as Jurann explained in his LiveJournal: "I didn't make the ownership and intentions of what to do with the pieces I won at AFF clear to K'sharra. I would also point out that AFF did not give K'sharra any paperwork to explain which pieces sold and did not and for how much."<ref name="hijinks"/>

=== FurBid-SF suspension ===

Jurann also placed bids in an online auction by K'sharra, under a newly-registered account, Kandykoon. His bids were made in an increasing pattern over the course of three days, and were followed by two bids by two different people, one of which won the item.<ref>[http://www.furbid.ws/cgi-bin/auction/bidhistory.pl?item=29404 Bid History] of auction on [[FurBid-SF]]. Auction started April 6, 2007; ended April 11, 2007. Retrieved April 11, 2007.</ref>

On April 15, Jurann was suspended from FurBid-SF by [[Ayukawataur]] for a period of at least six months. Ayukawataur noted that his bids:
{{q|"Were in no way consistent with his bidding practice across the previous five auctions under the user name Jurann, nor the other two auctions under the name Kandykoon."}}
She also noted that:
{{q|"all interested parties [...] refused to acknowledge any action they made could possibly be wrong, either in the eyes of others, in accordance with the terms of use, or with the law."<ref>[http://ayukawataur.livejournal.com/47657.html A recent issue]. April 15, 2007 LiveJournal post by [[Ayukawataur]]. Retrieved April 16, 2007.</ref>}}

In a post by Jurann, he stated:
{{q|"My interest in buying this piece was completely genuine..." and "I once again used my USUAL bidding strategy for placing bids on the piece, which is consistent with my strategy for [other] pieces on Furbid: inching up the proxy of other users so I don't have to make a proxy bid far higher than theirs."<ref name="hijinks"/>}}

Ayukawataur disagreed with this stance when she reviewed her records of his previous bidding strategies. She refused to comment publicly any further as to his usual bidding strategy. She cited the internal privacy policy as her reason for not explaining further. [citation needed]

== References ==
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== External links ==
{{Contributor|Jurann}}
* ''[http://jurann.livejournal.com/ Jurann's Silver Thread]'' - Jurann's [[LiveJournal]]
* [http://www.furnation.com/jurann/ Jurann's web page] on [[FurNation]] (outdated)
* [http://www.furcen.org/~jurann/ Jurann's web page] at [[FurCen.Org]] (outdated)

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Talk:Jurann

2007-12-25T09:45:28Z

Ksharra: /* The Ayukawataur and her updated comments */

==Bidding history==
i would ask that the references to the bidding history on furbid-sf be removed from this article, at least until after our internal investigation regarding the issue has been completed. i do not feel it is proper that this is being posted here when the full facts are unknown by the public at large.
--[[User:Ayukawataur|Ayukawataur : FurBid-SF Administaur]] 02:57, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

:I would say no. The information is posted elsewhere in publicly-available LiveJournal postings, and nothing is served by removing the information from WikiFur. An additional statement that Furbid-SF is investigating would be more appropriate, I should think, and once that investigation is complete you are welcome to add a link to wherever the conclusions are posted.----[[User:DuncanDaHusky|DuncanDaHusky]]([[User talk:DuncanDaHusky|talk]]) 03:07, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

:: i am sorry, i am forced to remove the access from the database under the user agreement: http://www.furbid.ws/cgi-bin/auction/help.pl?template=terms
:: Please refer to '''Article 6:'''
:: ''Privacy - We gather your information so that other people will have it on hand when they win your auction or you win their auction. Personal information is not sold or rented without your permission. Personal information sent to a user regarding a product bought or sold on the auction is not to be used for any other purpose, except for communication concerning the auction item. This also applies to any information which may be found on either the main auction site, or the Discussion Board.
:: As this information, and any interaction which you may participate in may have a long term effect on other users, and their accounts, this information will be stored permanently within our database. Upon creating an account on FurBid-SF, you waive any rights to have your personal information removed from the FurBid-SF database.''
:: at a later point i will add to the page what i can allow to be released.
:: --[[User:Ayukawataur|Ayukawataur : FurBid-SF Administaur]] 03:30, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

:::It is your site - but the facts of who made what bids are just that, facts. That article appears to refer to ''personal'' information - names, addresses, and phone numbers (which also happen to be facts) that are kept on file for sellers to contact buyers and vice versa rather than the bid history. We don't really care about his personal details stored on your site, because it's not relevant to the situation; none of us have access to it anyway.
:::As for the speculation on how your site works, you are free to end it by giving your own explanation. Looking at other bidding histories on the site, the explanation seems consistent with the bid history that I have here, and with that of other bidding sites, like eBay - a user's bid is increased in reaction to that of others up to the point where a later bidder places a maximum bid higher than that of the first bidder. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 04:33, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

:::: ''This also applies to any information which may be found on either the main auction site, or the Discussion Board.''
:::: Means any and all information which refers to the user, including bidding record. I only have made it available for persons who have a need to know, onsite. The information, as it stands right now is only the copy that gives the barebones bid-sheet, which is hypercondensed. The logs which I have are much more detailed, and explain in greater detail what happened. I also have many emails between all concerned parties, and logs of other conversations which all are part of the contributing factors to learning exactly what happened.
:::: There is much which will never be made public about how the system works. I am aware that many people will make assumptions based on what they see. And, yes the site is designed to use the proxy-methos, but it is styled a bit differently, based more on another model, which i am not at liberty to disclose where i picked it up. personal and such.
:::: What is worrying me most is that Jurann and FurBid-SF do not have a very happy relationship. I need to keep everything in this investigation 100% above board, lest someone accuse us of not being impartial and influenced by popular opinion.
:::: --[[User:Ayukawataur|Ayukawataur : FurBid-SF Administaur]] 04:56, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

== Moved from the article ==

[[User:Sine|Sine]] 06:43, 13 April 2007 (UTC): I've moved the following, added by Ayukawataur, from the article to the talk page:

'''Note:''': The [[Ayukawataur|Administaur]] of [[FurBid-SF]] has expressed concern over the interpretations which are being made over this issue. She has not released any information as to the internal investigation, or the internal workings of the server, the software, or the logs which are all part of her internal investigation. She also refuses, at this time, to release any content of her conversations with all parties which are directly involved with this issue until her internal investigation is complete. Her belief is that people should not base opinions on assumptions and rumor.

: i have posted my final decision about this. anyone who wishes to update his page in the proper format may reference:
: [http://ayukawataur.livejournal.com/47657.html link]
: --[[User:Ayukawataur|Ayukawataur : FurBid-SF Administaur]] 06:54, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

::Thank you for letting us know. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 06:58, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

::: seemed only fair. you were patient with and worked with me on my issues regarding this.
::: -[[User:Ayukawataur|Ayukawataur : FurBid-SF Administaur]] 07:08, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

:::: i would like to request that the word ban in the section "furbid ban" be changed to suspension. i would also appreciate if the name furbid were changed to "FurBid-SF".
:::: --[[User:Ayukawataur|Ayukawataur : FurBid-SF Administaur]] 22:58, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

== Additional suspicious blanking ==

Just for documentation/tracking purposes, I'd like to make mention that the IP address 71.231.178.155 (resoling to c-71-231-178-155.hsd1.wa.comcast.net, presumably Jurann) also engaged [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=K%27sharra&diff=132366&oldid=132363 in this blanking] of information in the [[K'sharra]] article that was critical of him, just one minute after [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Jurann&diff=prev&oldid=132365 this blanking] of the same/similar critical information from the [[Jurann]] article.

I find it suspicious that the subject of this article is trying to remove this sort of information. But maybe that's just me. --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 16:13, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

: It has been pointed out to me that this is not the first time that [http://groups.google.com/group/fur.artwork.erotica/msg/2bf94c2da024ed06 Jurann has engaged in auction hijnks]. It seems that he was banned from FurBid by its previous owner for abusing the system.

: Something else I noticed. From the current incident, the subject stated: ''"while I violated no policies of the art show"''
: From the previous Furbid incident, the [http://groups.google.com/group/fur.artwork.erotica/msg/1f8aa59a902b366b subject stated]: "''nowhere in Furbid's policies is anything mentioned about what I did being against policy''"

: Is it just me, or does this look like a case (2 cases, actually) of [[Wikipedia:Rules lawyer|Rules Lawyering]]? --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 16:28, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

::It's not so much the rules that concerns me, but that he ''should'' understand the spirit of them as well. In a reply to one of my own posts on the artists_beware thread, Jurann stated that he had been bidding in online auctions for 10 years and had attended 70 furry cons. His point was that I had far less experience than he in auctions. On that he was most likely correct, but that raises the question of why he's so surprised that people would at least be concerned about his actions. I tried to think up ways of bidding that would not result in such concerns, but was rebuffed.

::Funnily enough, the post that K'sharra made to artists_beware group, along with all the comments, has now been deleted - presumably by K'sharra herself, as I do not believe the administrators of that group would do it. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 16:46, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

== Request for exclusion / page blanking ==

In [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Jurann&diff=132367&oldid=132365 this edit], the attached article was replaced with:

:''Jurann and all information pertaining to Jurann, the character and the owner of the character, are the intellectual property of Timothy Rea, who has asked that any information pertaining to said character or person be removed from this system permanently.''

Given their [http://furry.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/71.231.178.155 other edits], I believe them to be [[User:Jurann]], who made an extra edit adding {{tl|Protected-Excluded}} to the page.

Jurann then replaced a section of this discussion page with the same template and the edit note "This is closed for discussion", and [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Jurann&diff=next&oldid=132378 subsequently erased the rest of the article].

Firstly, a couple of general points:
*[[Jurann]] is not "your page". It is WikiFur's article ''about'' you. It is a public resource, and attempting to blank it unilaterally is like attempting to delete a newsgroup or forum thread about you on a system which you do not control. Such changes will just be reverted without administrative approval.
*This discussion (or ''talk'') page is separate from the article itself. Personal exclusion is not applied to talk pages, and altering or removing the words of another user here is only considered acceptable under very exceptional circumstances, none of which apply here. It is an open discussion and you cannot "close it". Statements here are the opinions of those who make them (which is why they are signed), not representations of fact (including facts about other people's opinions) by WikiFur.

Specifically in response to your message: Users are free to give a description of someone else's character, as long as that description is not a copy of your creative work. For example, it would be fine for someone else to say "GreenReaper is a green norn who has dappled dark green fur on his shoulders and a large lime green mohawk", as this is merely their own description of my character. Obviously, taking your ''own'' description from FurryMUCK would be less acceptable, as that is a copyrighted work (you would have to submit that it here yourself, at which point it falls under the GFDL, which [[Project:Copyrights|permits further editing]]). Facts about your personal actions are certainly ''not'' your intellectual property, as they are not creative works - they are facts.

Regardless of copyright ownership, we do have a [[WikiFur:Personal information|policy on personal information]]. However, it is my belief that your actions in public auctions and the resulting opinions of others (and actions taken by them) are ''not'' covered by this. This information is not idle gossip, but directly related to your official position as Art Show director for [[RainFurrest]]. I'm open to discussion on this, but I personally feel that your actions in bidding on your mate's work are very much in the public interest, just as [[Starfinder]]'s commission delinquency or [[Banrai]]'s past art theft were, and are grounds for rejection of the exclusion request. It seems obvious to me that this is the reason that you made the request.

Having said the above, WikiFur should not be a biased source on this or any topic. This article should instead have a comprehensive and accurate representation of the facts. If there is important information that you feel has not been mentioned or which is inaccurately represented, you're welcome to work with us to improve it. However, if the plain facts of the situation are cause for concern for some - which, looking at the post on [[artists_beware]], they are - then it is likely that these people are going to come away with the same impression upon reading this article, no matter how these facts are presented.

If you wish, your real name, job and age can be removed (as they ''are'' protected items of personal information), unless someone can give a very good reason why it has particular relevance to the furry fandom. I have already removed the picture of your character myself, as there is no record of having either the author's permission to display it here, or your permission to do so. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 16:20, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

:You have been blocked by another administrator for repeated blanking of this page and [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Jurann&diff=prev&oldid=132479 legal threats]. Regarding your intent to file a complaint to Wikia, the appropriate method is likely to be [mailto:communtiy@wikia.com communtiy@wikia.com] in the first instance. They also have a [[Wikia:Designated agent|designated agent]] for DMCA takedown requests. If you do file such a request, be aware that we will file a challenge on the basis that this is the work of others and is not under your copyright. Stating the facts on the article about you and expressing our opinions about your actions here is not something that you can control, and your continued attempts to do so will not help your situation. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 17:16, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

:The information I specified above, along with his current location, have been removed from the article on request. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 22:50, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

: ''This is not a legal advice'' In Feist Publications, Inc. v. Rural Tel. Service Co., Inc., the Supreme Court found that raw data, such as names, phone numbers, towns, and so forth, were not original and so not subject to copyright protection because the information did not owe its creation or origin to the plaintiff. -- [[User:Wesha|Wesha]] 00:14, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

== Blanking history and timeline ==

Since the subject has now resorted to legal threats and threats to complain to Wikia, I'd like to document all activity from him thus far:

* [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Jurann&diff=prev&oldid=132365 3:51 EDT 17 April 2007] - Partial blanking of [[Jurann]]
* [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=K%27sharra&diff=prev&oldid=132366 3:52 EDT 17 April 2007] - Partial blanking of [[K'sharra]]
* [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Jurann&diff=next&oldid=132367 3:58 EDT 17 April 2007] - Complete blanking of [[Jurann]]
* [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Jurann&diff=next&oldid=132367 4:17 EDT 17 April 2007] - Improper adding of "Protected-Excluded" template
* [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Jurann&diff=prev&oldid=132378 5:03 EDT 17 April 2007] - Partial blanking of the article's Talk page. Improper addition of "Protected-Excluded" template.
* [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Jurann&diff=prev&oldid=132379 5:04 EDT 17 April 2007] - Complete blanking of the article's Talk page.
* [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Jurann&diff=prev&oldid=132466 12:59 EDT 17 April 2007] - Blanking of page. Improper adding of "Protected-Excluded" template.
* [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=K%27sharra&diff=prev&oldid=132475 13:01 EDT 17 April 2007] - Partial blanking of [[K'sharra]].
* 13:02 EDT 17 April 2007 - [[User:71.231.178.155]] blocked
* [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Jurann&diff=prev&oldid=132478 13:06 EDT 17 April 2007] - Blanking of page. Legal threat.
* [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Jurann&diff=prev&oldid=132479 13:07 EDT 17 April 2007] - Blanking of talk page. Legal threat.
* 13:08 EDT 17 April 2007 - [[User:Jurann]] blocked
* [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Jurann&diff=prev&oldid=132486 13:16 EDT 17 April 2007] - Reason for blocking left on user's talk page by [[User:GreenReaper]]
* [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Jurann&curid=9698&diff=132487&oldid=132480 13:16 EDT 17 April 2007] - Article blanked from a new IP (resolves to dsl092-244-248.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net). Subject commented: "''I can play the IP game all day long, you got all day to play with me?''"
* 13:20 EDT 17 April 2007 - Article protected

It should be noted that at no time did he actually dispute the contents of the article, or attempt to engage in discussion with us on this wiki. All communication from the subject consisted of comments such as [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Talk%3AJurann&diff=132378&oldid=132082 "This is closed for discussion"] and legal threats. --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 17:35, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

== Further ==

I have made my rebuttal and counterpoint along with a detailed list of supporting information including a timeline and a multi-point clarification of the issues involved in the events poorly described under the "Controversy" section. You can find it publicly available in my LiveJournal, along with the feedback and comments from other users concerning their opinions and clarifications as well. Enjoy. (I placed this above the sections below because this pertains to more than one of the sections, admins please feel free to reformat page as necessary.) [[User:Jurann|Jurann]] 20:29, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

:[[User:Sine|Sine]] 05:32, 21 April 2007 (UTC): I assume http://jurann.livejournal.com/138792.html ("Auction Hijinks", posted April 17, updated with "Clarifying the Misunderstandings" on April 18) is the post Jurann refers to above.
:Thoughts on what from it is appropriate to include in the article? Would it be best to simply drop it into the External links section?
:A couple of things might need [sic]ing if quoted. Throughout the post Jurann refers to K'sharra as his roomate. He also refers to Ayukwataur using male pronouns.
:Reading through the post and comments, there isn't something that jumps out at me as an obvious, brief summary from Jurann. Except perhaps something he wrote [http://jurann.livejournal.com/138792.html?thread=456744#t456744 in a comment posted today]: {{q|"I'm not blameless, but there are other people who share the blame for what's happened and none of them aside from K'sharra have been forthcoming or honest about it."}}
::I'll try and have a stab at this tomorrow/later today. Been tied up with other things for most of it. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 08:50, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

== The Ayukawataur and her updated comments ==
i know this may be late in game but, and i will be need to look up exact date. i am not at console so i can not check when the change was made. but, at anthrocon 2007 i had a long talk with both timothy and k'sharra. i was convinced they understood what the issue was and why he had been excluded from bidding. within a week after ac i removed his suspended status and he has again been allowed to use the system. though, he has elected not to.
: --[[User:Ayukawataur|Ayukawataur : FurBid-SF Administaur]] 06:41, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

:You cited entirely different reasons for the suspension between private emails to me and Jurann, your LiveJournal posts, WikiFur edits and discussions, and at Anthrocon. It is my understanding that Jurann continues to not use Furbid-SF because he feels uncomfortable about the vagueries surrounding his suspension and unwelcome due to his status as staff on a competing website.
:As it is, the matter is closed and well in the past. I was simply drawn to this post via a link regarding something completely different, and noticed that only one side of certain events had been posted, so felt compelled to provide more accurate and complete representation.
:[[User:Ksharra|Ksharra]] 09:45, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Jurann

2007-12-25T02:49:11Z

Ksharra: /* FurBid-SF suspension */

'''Jurann''', also known as '''Jurann Foxtail''', '''Kandykoon''', and as '''Jurann Kraken''' on [[Second Life]], is a member of the [[furry fandom]].

== Background ==

Jurann first surfaced in [[furry fandom]] early in 1995 on [[YiffNet]] IRC. The name was computer-generated using a random fantasy name generator created by the player.

Jurann appeared on [[FurryMUCK]], [[TigerMUCK]], and [[Tapestries]] in early 1996. He has a Mucker bit on FurryMUCK and writes [[MUF]] programs. He also built and maintains the [[Garden of Eden]] on FurryMUCK.

== Fursona ==

Although the character started out as a [[fox]], Jurann changed species to a [[Spotted Hyena]] sometime in early 2000 due to changing personality and outlook that seemed to coincide with the [[species]] change. In September 2006 he changed species again, to [[raccoon]].<ref>[http://jurann.livejournal.com/115142.html New Species]. September 24, 2006 LiveJournal post by Jurann. Retrieved September 24, 2006. (Post protected, ''i.e.'' no longer public, as of April 17, 2007.)</ref>

== Furry projects ==

As webmaster and programmer, Jurann has created or been involved in several [[furry]] and furry-related projects, including [[FurCen.Org]], [[Furry Grand Central]], the [[Furry Database]], [[FurBuy]], and [[FuroticaMUCK]].

He has also contributed to the [[Fuzzball]] [[TinyMUCK]] server project, and he was once the Assistant Admin of [[FurNation]].

== Staff roles ==

Jurann staffed [[ConiFur Northwest]] for 5 years as the Director of Internet and Gaming. He was going to be the Art Show Director of [[RainFurrest]],<ref>[http://community.livejournal.com/rainfurrest/638.html Looking for a few Good Staffers!]. March 4, 2007 post by Jurann to RainFurrest LiveJournal community. Retrieved April 10, 2007.</ref> scheduled for August 2007, until June 12th, when he was replaced on staff by [[Glen Wooten]] due to personal conflicts with the convention organization<ref>[http://jurann.livejournal.com/141606.html A Difference In Opinion]. June 14, 2007 post by Jurann to his LiveJournal. Retrieved June 14, 2007.</ref>.

== Controversy ==

=== Art bidding ===

In April 2007, K'sharra claimed that Jurann "outbid a couple of people on" pieces in a convention [[art show]] "because he felt they would sell for higher at a different con. At the end of the con, he paid for the pieces and gave them back" to the artist, his mate K'sharra, "to sell elsewhere."<ref>[http://community.livejournal.com/artists_beware/129848.html To quote the Hitchhiker's Guide...] April 10, 2007 post by [[K'sharra]] to the [[artists_beware]] community on [[LiveJournal]]. Retrieved April 11, 2007. (Post deleted as of April 17, 2007. [http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:BtIEYl2ZLy0J:community.livejournal.com/artists_beware Cached copy of Artists_Beware front page], retrieved by Google on April 14, 2007.)</ref>.

In a comment to K'sharra's post on [[Artists Beware]], Jurann stated
{{q|"I defended the pieces because I really like them and wanted them myself. But I'd also like to see them in a bigger art show where they'll get more attention. I suppose I made a boo-boo, because while I violated no policies of the art show, I'm being ethically challenged by all kinds of people for what I did."<ref>[http://community.livejournal.com/artists_beware/129848.html#t2796856 Comment by Jurann] posted April 11, 2007 to artists_beware. Retrieved April 11, 2007. (Post deleted as of April 17, 2007.)</ref>}} In a later post, Jurann clarified that "Two of the pieces [on auction at AFF] in particular I liked and wanted to add to my collection ... and proceeded to bid on ONLY the two pieces I was personally interested in."<ref name="hijinks">[http://jurann.livejournal.com/138792.html "Auction Hijinks"] posted April 17, 2007 on [[LiveJournal]]. Retrieved December 24, 2007.</ref> He also later claimed that he only wanted to see them displayed in a larger art show as NFS, not re-sold. The attempt to resell the piece online was due in large part to a confusion of which pieces had and had not sold at the AFF auction, as Jurann explained in his LiveJournal: "I didn't make the ownership and intentions of what to do with the pieces I won at AFF clear to K'sharra. I would also point out that AFF did not give K'sharra any paperwork to explain which pieces sold and did not and for how much."<ref name="hijinks"/>

=== FurBid-SF suspension ===

Jurann also placed bids in an online auction by K'sharra, under a newly-registered account, Kandykoon. His bids were made in an increasing pattern over the course of three days, and were followed by two bids by two different people, one of which won the item.<ref>[http://www.furbid.ws/cgi-bin/auction/bidhistory.pl?item=29404 Bid History] of auction on [[FurBid-SF]]. Auction started April 6, 2007; ended April 11, 2007. Retrieved April 11, 2007.</ref>

On April 15, Jurann was suspended from FurBid-SF by [[Ayukawataur]] for a period of at least six months. Ayukawataur noted that his bids:
{{q|"Were in no way consistent with his bidding practice across the previous five auctions under the user name Jurann, nor the other two auctions under the name Kandykoon."}}
She also noted that:
{{q|"all interested parties [...] refused to acknowledge any action they made could possibly be wrong, either in the eyes of others, in accordance with the terms of use, or with the law."<ref>[http://ayukawataur.livejournal.com/47657.html A recent issue]. April 15, 2007 LiveJournal post by [[Ayukawataur]]. Retrieved April 16, 2007.</ref>}}

In a post by Jurann, he stated:
{{q|"My interest in buying this piece was completely genuine..." and "I once again used my USUAL bidding strategy for placing bids on the piece, which is consistent with my strategy for [other] pieces on Furbid: inching up the proxy of other users so I don't have to make a proxy bid far higher than theirs."<ref name="hijinks"/>}}

== References ==
<references/>

== External links ==
{{Contributor|Jurann}}
* ''[http://jurann.livejournal.com/ Jurann's Silver Thread]'' - Jurann's [[LiveJournal]]
* [http://www.furnation.com/jurann/ Jurann's web page] on [[FurNation]] (outdated)
* [http://www.furcen.org/~jurann/ Jurann's web page] at [[FurCen.Org]] (outdated)

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Jurann

2007-12-25T02:46:51Z

Ksharra: Adding other side of story

'''Jurann''', also known as '''Jurann Foxtail''', '''Kandykoon''', and as '''Jurann Kraken''' on [[Second Life]], is a member of the [[furry fandom]].

== Background ==

Jurann first surfaced in [[furry fandom]] early in 1995 on [[YiffNet]] IRC. The name was computer-generated using a random fantasy name generator created by the player.

Jurann appeared on [[FurryMUCK]], [[TigerMUCK]], and [[Tapestries]] in early 1996. He has a Mucker bit on FurryMUCK and writes [[MUF]] programs. He also built and maintains the [[Garden of Eden]] on FurryMUCK.

== Fursona ==

Although the character started out as a [[fox]], Jurann changed species to a [[Spotted Hyena]] sometime in early 2000 due to changing personality and outlook that seemed to coincide with the [[species]] change. In September 2006 he changed species again, to [[raccoon]].<ref>[http://jurann.livejournal.com/115142.html New Species]. September 24, 2006 LiveJournal post by Jurann. Retrieved September 24, 2006. (Post protected, ''i.e.'' no longer public, as of April 17, 2007.)</ref>

== Furry projects ==

As webmaster and programmer, Jurann has created or been involved in several [[furry]] and furry-related projects, including [[FurCen.Org]], [[Furry Grand Central]], the [[Furry Database]], [[FurBuy]], and [[FuroticaMUCK]].

He has also contributed to the [[Fuzzball]] [[TinyMUCK]] server project, and he was once the Assistant Admin of [[FurNation]].

== Staff roles ==

Jurann staffed [[ConiFur Northwest]] for 5 years as the Director of Internet and Gaming. He was going to be the Art Show Director of [[RainFurrest]],<ref>[http://community.livejournal.com/rainfurrest/638.html Looking for a few Good Staffers!]. March 4, 2007 post by Jurann to RainFurrest LiveJournal community. Retrieved April 10, 2007.</ref> scheduled for August 2007, until June 12th, when he was replaced on staff by [[Glen Wooten]] due to personal conflicts with the convention organization<ref>[http://jurann.livejournal.com/141606.html A Difference In Opinion]. June 14, 2007 post by Jurann to his LiveJournal. Retrieved June 14, 2007.</ref>.

== Controversy ==

=== Art bidding ===

In April 2007, K'sharra claimed that Jurann "outbid a couple of people on" pieces in a convention [[art show]] "because he felt they would sell for higher at a different con. At the end of the con, he paid for the pieces and gave them back" to the artist, his mate K'sharra, "to sell elsewhere."<ref>[http://community.livejournal.com/artists_beware/129848.html To quote the Hitchhiker's Guide...] April 10, 2007 post by [[K'sharra]] to the [[artists_beware]] community on [[LiveJournal]]. Retrieved April 11, 2007. (Post deleted as of April 17, 2007. [http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:BtIEYl2ZLy0J:community.livejournal.com/artists_beware Cached copy of Artists_Beware front page], retrieved by Google on April 14, 2007.)</ref>.

In a comment to K'sharra's post on [[Artists Beware]], Jurann stated
{{q|"I defended the pieces because I really like them and wanted them myself. But I'd also like to see them in a bigger art show where they'll get more attention. I suppose I made a boo-boo, because while I violated no policies of the art show, I'm being ethically challenged by all kinds of people for what I did."<ref>[http://community.livejournal.com/artists_beware/129848.html#t2796856 Comment by Jurann] posted April 11, 2007 to artists_beware. Retrieved April 11, 2007. (Post deleted as of April 17, 2007.)</ref>}} In a later post, Jurann clarified that "Two of the pieces [on auction at AFF] in particular I liked and wanted to add to my collection ... and proceeded to bid on ONLY the two pieces I was personally interested in."<ref name="hijinks">[http://jurann.livejournal.com/138792.html "Auction Hijinks"] posted April 17, 2007 on [[LiveJournal]]. Retrieved December 24, 2007.</ref> He also later claimed that he only wanted to see them displayed in a larger art show as NFS, not re-sold. The attempt to resell the piece online was due in large part to a confusion of which pieces had and had not sold at the AFF auction, as Jurann explained in his LiveJournal: "I didn't make the ownership and intentions of what to do with the pieces I won at AFF clear to K'sharra. I would also point out that AFF did not give K'sharra any paperwork to explain which pieces sold and did not and for how much."<ref name="hijinks"/>

=== FurBid-SF suspension ===

Jurann also placed bids in an online auction by K'sharra, under a newly-registered account, Kandykoon. His bids were made in an increasing pattern over the course of three days, and were followed by two bids by two different people, one of which won the item.<ref>[http://www.furbid.ws/cgi-bin/auction/bidhistory.pl?item=29404 Bid History] of auction on [[FurBid-SF]]. Auction started April 6, 2007; ended April 11, 2007. Retrieved April 11, 2007.</ref>

On April 15, Jurann was suspended from FurBid-SF by [[Ayukawataur]] for a period of at least six months. Ayukawataur noted that his bids:
{{q|"Were in no way consistent with his bidding practice across the previous five auctions under the user name Jurann, nor the other two auctions under the name Kandykoon."}}
She also noted that:
{{q|"all interested parties [...] refused to acknowledge any action they made could possibly be wrong, either in the eyes of others, in accordance with the terms of use, or with the law."<ref>[http://ayukawataur.livejournal.com/47657.html A recent issue]. April 15, 2007 LiveJournal post by [[Ayukawataur]]. Retrieved April 16, 2007.</ref>}}

In a post by Jurann, he stated:
{{q|My interest in buying this piece was completely genuine...}}
and
{{q|I once again used my USUAL bidding strategy for placing bids on the piece, which is consistent with my strategy for [other] pieces on Furbid: inching up the proxy of other users so I don't have to make a proxy bid far higher than theirs.}}

== References ==
<references/>

== External links ==
{{Contributor|Jurann}}
* ''[http://jurann.livejournal.com/ Jurann's Silver Thread]'' - Jurann's [[LiveJournal]]
* [http://www.furnation.com/jurann/ Jurann's web page] on [[FurNation]] (outdated)
* [http://www.furcen.org/~jurann/ Jurann's web page] at [[FurCen.Org]] (outdated)

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K'sharra

2007-12-25T02:12:42Z

Ksharra: Clarification of events to give full understanding

[[Image:Ksharra.jpg|right|thumb|275px|K'sharra's self-depiction of her furry persona]]
'''K'sharra''' (born 1982) is a [[furry artist]] who has been in the fandom since 1998. Her real-life last name has changed twice due to marriage and divorce, so her art is sometimes featured under different names, or simply under her furry name. She started in the [[furry fandom]] by doing simple artwork for friends, but quickly developed into more of an adult style. She is a contributing artist for [[PlayMouse]], [[HotFurs]] and [[BondoFox]]. She also makes furry-themed necklace pendants and runs her own Cafepress store and [[Second Life]] [[avatar]] vendor.

K'sharra lives in Washington state, U.S.A. Some of the [[furry convention]]s she has attended include [[Anthrocon]], [[Midwest FurFest]], [[All Fur Fun]], [[Mephit Furmeet]], and [[Oklacon]]. She is the conbook lead for [[RainFurrest]] 2007 and lead admin for [[FurBuy]].

== Character ==

As a character, K'sharra is a [[female]] orange [[tigress]] with silver hair and sharp spiky bangs. She occasionally frequents [[FurryMUCK]] and [[Second Life]] (as ''Ksharra Manimal''), and is commonly featured as a subject of the artist's work.

== Controversy ==

In April 2007, there was some controversy involving questionable bids on K'sharra's artwork by her at-the-time [[mate]], [[Jurann]], at [[All Fur Fun]] and on [[FurBid-SF]]. After All Fur Fun, K'sharra made a public post to the [[Artists Beware]] LiveJournal community stating "I have since talked to Jurann and made it clear that I do not condone price inflation."<ref name="toquote">[http://community.livejournal.com/artists_beware/129848.html To quote the Hitchhiker's Guide...] April 10, 2007 post by K'sharra to the [[artists_beware]] community on [[LiveJournal]]. Retrieved April 16, 2007. (Post deleted as of April 17, 2007. [http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:BtIEYl2ZLy0J:community.livejournal.com/artists_beware Cached copy of Artists_Beware front page], retrieved by Google on April 14, 2007.)</ref>

In a LiveJournal post, Jurann clarified that "Two of the pieces [on auction at AFF] in particular I liked and wanted to add to my collection ... and proceeded to bid on ONLY the two pieces I was personally interested in."<ref name="hijinks">[http://jurann.livejournal.com/138792.html "Auction Hijinks"] posted April 17, 2007 on [[LiveJournal]]. Retrieved December 24, 2007.</ref> He also later claimed that he only wanted to see them displayed in a larger art show as NFS, not re-sold. The attempt to resell the piece online was due in large part to a confusion of which pieces had and had not sold at the AFF auction, as Jurann explained in his LiveJournal: "I didn't make the ownership and intentions of what to do with the pieces I won at AFF clear to K'sharra. I would also point out that AFF did not give K'sharra any paperwork to explain which pieces sold and did not and for how much."<ref name="hijinks"/>

The convention staff have stated that they will "amend our policies for next year to discourage this as much as possible"<ref name="AFF">[http://forum.allfurfun.com/viewtopic.php?t=139 Art show question/gripe]. Thread on All Fur Fun forum. Started April 8, 2007. Retrieved April 18, 2007.</ref> but no action has been taken against either parties, as the con "had not said anything about [shill-bidding regulations] in our Art Show policies".<ref name="AFF"/> In regards to the incident on FurBid-SF, K'sharra's "account will be monitored, but she is not facing any direct disciplinary actions."<ref>[http://ayukawataur.livejournal.com/47657.html A recent issue]. April 15, 2007 LiveJournal post by [[Ayukawataur]]. Retrieved April 16, 2007.</ref> K'sharra is currently no longer mated to Jurann, and the pieces questionably bid upon by Jurann remain in his ownership as rightful purchases.

== References ==
<references/>

==External links==
{{Contributor|Ksharra}}
*[http://ksharra.furcen.org/ K'sharra's Personal Gallery/Website]
*[http://www.cafepress.com/ksharra K'sharra's Cafepress store]
*[http://www.furaffinity.net/user/ksharra K'sharra] on [[Fur Affinity]]
*[http://www.furryartpile.com/user/ksharra K'sharra] on [[FurryArtPile]]
*[http://us.vclart.net/vcl/Artists/K%27sharra/ K'sharra] on [[VCL]]

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Jurann

2007-12-25T02:05:20Z

Ksharra: /* Controversy */

'''Jurann''', also known as '''Jurann Foxtail''', '''Kandykoon''', and as '''Jurann Kraken''' on [[Second Life]], is a member of the [[furry fandom]].

== Background ==

Jurann first surfaced in [[furry fandom]] early in 1995 on [[YiffNet]] IRC. The name was computer-generated using a random fantasy name generator created by the player.

Jurann appeared on [[FurryMUCK]], [[TigerMUCK]], and [[Tapestries]] in early 1996. He has a Mucker bit on FurryMUCK and writes [[MUF]] programs. He also built and maintains the [[Garden of Eden]] on FurryMUCK.

== Fursona ==

Although the character started out as a [[fox]], Jurann changed species to a [[Spotted Hyena]] sometime in early 2000 due to changing personality and outlook that seemed to coincide with the [[species]] change. In September 2006 he changed species again, to [[raccoon]].<ref>[http://jurann.livejournal.com/115142.html New Species]. September 24, 2006 LiveJournal post by Jurann. Retrieved September 24, 2006. (Post protected, ''i.e.'' no longer public, as of April 17, 2007.)</ref>

== Furry projects ==

As webmaster and programmer, Jurann has created or been involved in several [[furry]] and furry-related projects, including [[FurCen.Org]], [[Furry Grand Central]], the [[Furry Database]], [[FurBuy]], and [[FuroticaMUCK]].

He has also contributed to the [[Fuzzball]] [[TinyMUCK]] server project, and he was once the Assistant Admin of [[FurNation]].

== Staff roles ==

Jurann staffed [[ConiFur Northwest]] for 5 years as the Director of Internet and Gaming. He was going to be the Art Show Director of [[RainFurrest]],<ref>[http://community.livejournal.com/rainfurrest/638.html Looking for a few Good Staffers!]. March 4, 2007 post by Jurann to RainFurrest LiveJournal community. Retrieved April 10, 2007.</ref> scheduled for August 2007, until June 12th, when he was replaced on staff by [[Glen Wooten]] due to personal conflicts with the convention organization<ref>[http://jurann.livejournal.com/141606.html A Difference In Opinion]. June 14, 2007 post by Jurann to his LiveJournal. Retrieved June 14, 2007.</ref>.

== Controversy ==

=== Art bidding ===

In April 2007, K'sharra claimed that Jurann "outbid a couple of people on" pieces in a convention [[art show]] "because he felt they would sell for higher at a different con. At the end of the con, he paid for the pieces and gave them back" to the artist, his mate K'sharra, "to sell elsewhere."<ref>[http://community.livejournal.com/artists_beware/129848.html To quote the Hitchhiker's Guide...] April 10, 2007 post by [[K'sharra]] to the [[artists_beware]] community on [[LiveJournal]]. Retrieved April 11, 2007. (Post deleted as of April 17, 2007. [http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:BtIEYl2ZLy0J:community.livejournal.com/artists_beware Cached copy of Artists_Beware front page], retrieved by Google on April 14, 2007.)</ref>.

In a comment to K'sharra's post on [[Artists Beware]], Jurann stated
{{q|"I defended the pieces because I really like them and wanted them myself. But I'd also like to see them in a bigger art show where they'll get more attention. I suppose I made a boo-boo, because while I violated no policies of the art show, I'm being ethically challenged by all kinds of people for what I did."<ref>[http://community.livejournal.com/artists_beware/129848.html#t2796856 Comment by Jurann] posted April 11, 2007 to artists_beware. Retrieved April 11, 2007. (Post deleted as of April 17, 2007.)</ref>}} In a later post, Jurann clarified that "Two of the pieces [on auction at AFF] in particular I liked and wanted to add to my collection ... and proceeded to bid on ONLY the two pieces I was personally interested in."<ref name="hijinks">[http://jurann.livejournal.com/138792.html "Auction Hijinks"] posted April 17, 2007 on [[LiveJournal]]. Retrieved December 24, 2007.</ref> He also later claimed that he only wanted to see them displayed in a larger art show as NFS, not re-sold. The attempt to resell the piece online was due in large part to a confusion of which pieces had and had not sold at the AFF auction, as Jurann explained in his LiveJournal: "I didn't make the ownership and intentions of what to do with the pieces I won at AFF clear to K'sharra. I would also point out that AFF did not give K'sharra any paperwork to explain which pieces sold and did not and for how much."<ref name="hijinks"/>

=== FurBid-SF suspension ===

Jurann also placed bids in an online auction by K'sharra, under a newly-registered account, Kandykoon. His bids were made in an increasing pattern over the course of three days, and were followed by two bids by two different people, one of which won the item.<ref>[http://www.furbid.ws/cgi-bin/auction/bidhistory.pl?item=29404 Bid History] of auction on [[FurBid-SF]]. Auction started April 6, 2007; ended April 11, 2007. Retrieved April 11, 2007.</ref>

On April 15, Jurann was suspended from FurBid-SF by [[Ayukawataur]] for a period of at least six months. Ayukawataur noted that his bids:
{{q|"Were in no way consistent with his bidding practice across the previous five auctions under the user name Jurann, nor the other two auctions under the name Kandykoon."}}
She also noted that:
{{q|"all interested parties [...] refused to acknowledge any action they made could possibly be wrong, either in the eyes of others, in accordance with the terms of use, or with the law."<ref>[http://ayukawataur.livejournal.com/47657.html A recent issue]. April 15, 2007 LiveJournal post by [[Ayukawataur]]. Retrieved April 16, 2007.</ref>}}

== References ==
<references/>

== External links ==
{{Contributor|Jurann}}
* ''[http://jurann.livejournal.com/ Jurann's Silver Thread]'' - Jurann's [[LiveJournal]]
* [http://www.furnation.com/jurann/ Jurann's web page] on [[FurNation]] (outdated)
* [http://www.furcen.org/~jurann/ Jurann's web page] at [[FurCen.Org]] (outdated)

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Jurann

2007-12-25T02:03:13Z

Ksharra: Removing irrelevant statement: statement refers to pieces which did not actually sell, as opposed to pieces which were bid on, 4 items in auction altogether. Also added clarifying references.

'''Jurann''', also known as '''Jurann Foxtail''', '''Kandykoon''', and as '''Jurann Kraken''' on [[Second Life]], is a member of the [[furry fandom]].

== Background ==

Jurann first surfaced in [[furry fandom]] early in 1995 on [[YiffNet]] IRC. The name was computer-generated using a random fantasy name generator created by the player.

Jurann appeared on [[FurryMUCK]], [[TigerMUCK]], and [[Tapestries]] in early 1996. He has a Mucker bit on FurryMUCK and writes [[MUF]] programs. He also built and maintains the [[Garden of Eden]] on FurryMUCK.

== Fursona ==

Although the character started out as a [[fox]], Jurann changed species to a [[Spotted Hyena]] sometime in early 2000 due to changing personality and outlook that seemed to coincide with the [[species]] change. In September 2006 he changed species again, to [[raccoon]].<ref>[http://jurann.livejournal.com/115142.html New Species]. September 24, 2006 LiveJournal post by Jurann. Retrieved September 24, 2006. (Post protected, ''i.e.'' no longer public, as of April 17, 2007.)</ref>

== Furry projects ==

As webmaster and programmer, Jurann has created or been involved in several [[furry]] and furry-related projects, including [[FurCen.Org]], [[Furry Grand Central]], the [[Furry Database]], [[FurBuy]], and [[FuroticaMUCK]].

He has also contributed to the [[Fuzzball]] [[TinyMUCK]] server project, and he was once the Assistant Admin of [[FurNation]].

== Staff roles ==

Jurann staffed [[ConiFur Northwest]] for 5 years as the Director of Internet and Gaming. He was going to be the Art Show Director of [[RainFurrest]],<ref>[http://community.livejournal.com/rainfurrest/638.html Looking for a few Good Staffers!]. March 4, 2007 post by Jurann to RainFurrest LiveJournal community. Retrieved April 10, 2007.</ref> scheduled for August 2007, until June 12th, when he was replaced on staff by [[Glen Wooten]] due to personal conflicts with the convention organization<ref>[http://jurann.livejournal.com/141606.html A Difference In Opinion]. June 14, 2007 post by Jurann to his LiveJournal. Retrieved June 14, 2007.</ref>.

== Controversy ==

=== Art bidding ===

In April 2007, K'sharra claimed that Jurann "outbid a couple of people on" pieces in a convention [[art show]] "because he felt they would sell for higher at a different con. At the end of the con, he paid for the pieces and gave them back" to the artist, his mate K'sharra, "to sell elsewhere."<ref>[http://community.livejournal.com/artists_beware/129848.html To quote the Hitchhiker's Guide...] April 10, 2007 post by [[K'sharra]] to the [[artists_beware]] community on [[LiveJournal]]. Retrieved April 11, 2007. (Post deleted as of April 17, 2007. [http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:BtIEYl2ZLy0J:community.livejournal.com/artists_beware Cached copy of Artists_Beware front page], retrieved by Google on April 14, 2007.)</ref>.

In a comment to K'sharra's post on [[Artists Beware]], Jurann stated
{{q|"I defended the pieces because I really like them and wanted them myself. But I'd also like to see them in a bigger art show where they'll get more attention. I suppose I made a boo-boo, because while I violated no policies of the art show, I'm being ethically challenged by all kinds of people for what I did."<ref>[http://community.livejournal.com/artists_beware/129848.html#t2796856 Comment by Jurann] posted April 11, 2007 to artists_beware. Retrieved April 11, 2007. (Post deleted as of April 17, 2007.)</ref>}} In a later post, Jurann clarified that "Two of the pieces [on auction at AFF] in particular I liked and wanted to add to my collection ... and proceeded to bid on ONLY the two pieces I was personally interested in."<ref name="hijinks">[http://jurann.livejournal.com/138792.html "Auction Hijinks"] posted April 17, 2007 on [[LiveJournal]]. Retrieved December 24, 2007.</ref> He also later claimed that he only wanted to see them displayed in a larger art show as NFS, not re-sold. The attempt to resell the piece online was due in large part to a confusion of which pieces had and had not sold at the AFF auction, as Jurann explained in his LiveJournal: "I didn't make the ownership and intentions of what to do with the pieces I won at AFF clear to K'sharra. I would also point out that AFF did not give K'sharra any paperwork to explain which pieces sold and did not and for how much."<ref name="hijinks"></ref>

=== FurBid-SF suspension ===

Jurann also placed bids in an online auction by K'sharra, under a newly-registered account, Kandykoon. His bids were made in an increasing pattern over the course of three days, and were followed by two bids by two different people, one of which won the item.<ref>[http://www.furbid.ws/cgi-bin/auction/bidhistory.pl?item=29404 Bid History] of auction on [[FurBid-SF]]. Auction started April 6, 2007; ended April 11, 2007. Retrieved April 11, 2007.</ref>

On April 15, Jurann was suspended from FurBid-SF by [[Ayukawataur]] for a period of at least six months. Ayukawataur noted that his bids:
{{q|"Were in no way consistent with his bidding practice across the previous five auctions under the user name Jurann, nor the other two auctions under the name Kandykoon."}}
She also noted that:
{{q|"all interested parties [...] refused to acknowledge any action they made could possibly be wrong, either in the eyes of others, in accordance with the terms of use, or with the law."<ref>[http://ayukawataur.livejournal.com/47657.html A recent issue]. April 15, 2007 LiveJournal post by [[Ayukawataur]]. Retrieved April 16, 2007.</ref>}}

== References ==
<references/>

== External links ==
{{Contributor|Jurann}}
* ''[http://jurann.livejournal.com/ Jurann's Silver Thread]'' - Jurann's [[LiveJournal]]
* [http://www.furnation.com/jurann/ Jurann's web page] on [[FurNation]] (outdated)
* [http://www.furcen.org/~jurann/ Jurann's web page] at [[FurCen.Org]] (outdated)

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K'sharra

2007-07-28T09:56:12Z

Ksharra: Adding FurBuy administration

[[Image:Ksharra.jpg|right|thumb|275px|K'sharra's self-depiction of her furry persona]]'''K'sharra''' (born 1982) is a [[furry artist]] who has been in the fandom since 1998. Her real-life last name has changed twice due to marriage and divorce, so her art is sometimes featured under different names, or simply under her furry name. She started in the furry fandom by doing simple artwork for friends, but quickly developed into more of an adult style. She is a contributing artist for [[PlayMouse]], [[HotFurs]] and [[BondoFox]]. She also makes furry-themed necklace pendants and runs her own Cafepress store and [[Second Life]] avatar vendor.

K'sharra lives in Washington state, U.S.A. Some of the furry conventions she has attended include [[Anthrocon]], [[Midwest FurFest]], [[All Fur Fun]], [[Mephit Furmeet]], and [[Oklacon]]. She is the conbook lead for [[RainFurrest]] 2007 and lead admin for [[FurBuy]].

== Character ==

As a character, K'sharra is a female orange [[tigress]] with silver hair and sharp spiky bangs. She occasionally frequents [[FurryMUCK]] and [[Second Life]] (as ''Ksharra Manimal''), and is commonly featured as a subject of the artist's work.

== Controversy ==

In April 2007, there was some controversy involving questionable bids on K'sharra's artwork by her at-the-time mate, [[Jurann]], at [[All Fur Fun]] and on [[FurBid-SF]]. After All Fur Fun, K'sharra made a public post to the [[Artists Beware]] LiveJournal community stating "I have since talked to Jurann and made it clear that I do not condone price inflation."<ref name="toquote">[http://community.livejournal.com/artists_beware/129848.html To quote the Hitchhiker's Guide...] April 10, 2007 post by K'sharra to the [[artists_beware]] community on [[LiveJournal]]. Retrieved April 16, 2007. (Post deleted as of April 17, 2007. [http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:BtIEYl2ZLy0J:community.livejournal.com/artists_beware Cached copy of Artists_Beware front page], retrieved by Google on April 14, 2007.)</ref> The convention staff have stated that they will "amend our policies for next year to discourage this as much as possible"<ref name="AFF">[http://forum.allfurfun.com/viewtopic.php?t=139 Art show question/gripe]. Thread on All Fur Fun forum. Started April 8, 2007. Retrieved April 18, 2007.</ref> but no action has been taken against either parties, as the con "had not said anything about [shill-bidding regulations] in our Art Show policies".<ref name="AFF"/> In regards to the incident on FurBid-SF, K'sharra's "account will be monitored, but she is not facing any direct disciplinary actions."<ref>[http://ayukawataur.livejournal.com/47657.html A recent issue]. April 15, 2007 LiveJournal post by [[Ayukawataur]]. Retrieved April 16, 2007.</ref> K'sharra is currently no longer mated to Jurann, and the pieces questionably bid upon by Jurann remain in his ownership as rightful purchases.

== References ==
<references/>

==External links==
{{Contributor|Ksharra}}
*[http://ksharra.furcen.org/ K'sharra's Personal Gallery/Website]
*[http://www.cafepress.com/ksharra K'sharra's Cafepress store]
*[http://www.furaffinity.net/user/ksharra K'sharra] on [[Fur Affinity]]
*[http://www.furryartpile.com/user/ksharra K'sharra] on [[FurryArtPile]]
*[http://us.vclart.net/vcl/Artists/K%27sharra/ K'sharra] on [[VCL]]

[[Category:People]][[Category:Artists]][[Category:Tiger characters]][[Category:Washington]][[Category:1982 births]]

K'sharra

2007-07-12T20:28:16Z

Ksharra: Added AC as an attended con

[[Image:Ksharra.jpg|right|thumb|275px|K'sharra's self-depiction of her furry persona]]'''K'sharra''' (born 1982) is a [[furry artist]] who has been in the fandom since 1998. Her real-life last name has changed twice due to marriage and divorce, so her art is sometimes featured under different names, or simply under her furry name. She started in the furry fandom by doing simple artwork for friends, but quickly developed into more of an adult style. She is a contributing artist for [[PlayMouse]], [[HotFurs]] and [[BondoFox]]. She also makes furry-themed necklace pendants and runs her own Cafepress store and [[Second Life]] avatar vendor.

K'sharra lives in Washington state, U.S.A. Some of the furry conventions she has attended include [[Anthrocon]], [[Midwest FurFest]], [[All Fur Fun]], [[Mephit Furmeet]], and [[Oklacon]]. She is the conbook lead for [[RainFurrest]] 2007.

== Character ==

As a character, K'sharra is a female orange [[tigress]] with silver hair and sharp spiky bangs. She occasionally frequents [[FurryMUCK]] and [[Second Life]] (as ''Ksharra Manimal''), and is commonly featured as a subject of the artist's work.

== Controversy ==

In April 2007, there was some controversy involving questionable bids on K'sharra's artwork by her at-the-time mate, [[Jurann]], at [[All Fur Fun]] and on [[FurBid-SF]]. After All Fur Fun, K'sharra made a public post to the [[Artists Beware]] LiveJournal community stating "I have since talked to Jurann and made it clear that I do not condone price inflation."<ref name="toquote">[http://community.livejournal.com/artists_beware/129848.html To quote the Hitchhiker's Guide...] April 10, 2007 post by K'sharra to the [[artists_beware]] community on [[LiveJournal]]. Retrieved April 16, 2007. (Post deleted as of April 17, 2007. [http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:BtIEYl2ZLy0J:community.livejournal.com/artists_beware Cached copy of Artists_Beware front page], retrieved by Google on April 14, 2007.)</ref> The convention staff have stated that they will "amend our policies for next year to discourage this as much as possible"<ref name="AFF">[http://forum.allfurfun.com/viewtopic.php?t=139 Art show question/gripe]. Thread on All Fur Fun forum. Started April 8, 2007. Retrieved April 18, 2007.</ref> but no action has been taken against either parties, as the con "had not said anything about [shill-bidding regulations] in our Art Show policies".<ref name="AFF"/> In regards to the incident on FurBid-SF, K'sharra's "account will be monitored, but she is not facing any direct disciplinary actions."<ref>[http://ayukawataur.livejournal.com/47657.html A recent issue]. April 15, 2007 LiveJournal post by [[Ayukawataur]]. Retrieved April 16, 2007.</ref> K'sharra is currently no longer mated to Jurann, and the pieces questionably bid upon by Jurann remain in his ownership as rightful purchases.

== References ==
<references/>

==External links==
{{Contributor|Ksharra}}
*[http://ksharra.furcen.org/ K'sharra's Personal Gallery/Website]
*[http://www.cafepress.com/ksharra K'sharra's Cafepress store]
*[http://www.furaffinity.net/user/ksharra K'sharra] on [[Fur Affinity]]
*[http://www.furryartpile.com/user/ksharra K'sharra] on [[FurryArtPile]]
*[http://us.vclart.net/vcl/Artists/K%27sharra/ K'sharra] on [[VCL]]

[[Category:People]][[Category:Artists]][[Category:Tiger characters]][[Category:Washington]][[Category:1982 births]]

K'sharra

2007-07-12T20:25:48Z

Ksharra: /* Controversy */ Updated information

[[Image:Ksharra.jpg|right|thumb|275px|K'sharra's self-depiction of her furry persona]]'''K'sharra''' (born 1982) is a [[furry artist]] who has been in the fandom since 1998. Her real-life last name has changed twice due to marriage and divorce, so her art is sometimes featured under different names, or simply under her furry name. She started in the furry fandom by doing simple artwork for friends, but quickly developed into more of an adult style. She is a contributing artist for [[PlayMouse]], [[HotFurs]] and [[BondoFox]]. She also makes furry-themed necklace pendants and runs her own Cafepress store and [[Second Life]] avatar vendor.

K'sharra lives in Washington state, U.S.A. Some of the furry conventions she has attended include [[Midwest FurFest]], [[All Fur Fun]], [[Mephit Furmeet]], and [[Oklacon]]. She is the conbook lead for [[RainFurrest]] 2007.

== Character ==

As a character, K'sharra is a female orange [[tigress]] with silver hair and sharp spiky bangs. She occasionally frequents [[FurryMUCK]] and [[Second Life]] (as ''Ksharra Manimal''), and is commonly featured as a subject of the artist's work.

== Controversy ==

In April 2007, there was some controversy involving questionable bids on K'sharra's artwork by her at-the-time mate, [[Jurann]], at [[All Fur Fun]] and on [[FurBid-SF]]. After All Fur Fun, K'sharra made a public post to the [[Artists Beware]] LiveJournal community stating "I have since talked to Jurann and made it clear that I do not condone price inflation."<ref name="toquote">[http://community.livejournal.com/artists_beware/129848.html To quote the Hitchhiker's Guide...] April 10, 2007 post by K'sharra to the [[artists_beware]] community on [[LiveJournal]]. Retrieved April 16, 2007. (Post deleted as of April 17, 2007. [http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:BtIEYl2ZLy0J:community.livejournal.com/artists_beware Cached copy of Artists_Beware front page], retrieved by Google on April 14, 2007.)</ref> The convention staff have stated that they will "amend our policies for next year to discourage this as much as possible"<ref name="AFF">[http://forum.allfurfun.com/viewtopic.php?t=139 Art show question/gripe]. Thread on All Fur Fun forum. Started April 8, 2007. Retrieved April 18, 2007.</ref> but no action has been taken against either parties, as the con "had not said anything about [shill-bidding regulations] in our Art Show policies".<ref name="AFF"/> In regards to the incident on FurBid-SF, K'sharra's "account will be monitored, but she is not facing any direct disciplinary actions."<ref>[http://ayukawataur.livejournal.com/47657.html A recent issue]. April 15, 2007 LiveJournal post by [[Ayukawataur]]. Retrieved April 16, 2007.</ref> K'sharra is currently no longer mated to Jurann, and the pieces questionably bid upon by Jurann remain in his ownership as rightful purchases.

== References ==
<references/>

==External links==
{{Contributor|Ksharra}}
*[http://ksharra.furcen.org/ K'sharra's Personal Gallery/Website]
*[http://www.cafepress.com/ksharra K'sharra's Cafepress store]
*[http://www.furaffinity.net/user/ksharra K'sharra] on [[Fur Affinity]]
*[http://www.furryartpile.com/user/ksharra K'sharra] on [[FurryArtPile]]
*[http://us.vclart.net/vcl/Artists/K%27sharra/ K'sharra] on [[VCL]]

[[Category:People]][[Category:Artists]][[Category:Tiger characters]][[Category:Washington]][[Category:1982 births]]

FurBuy

2007-07-12T20:21:17Z

Ksharra: /* Status */ Removal of comment on number of auctions in the system, per discussion page.

[[Image:Furbuylogo04.gif|right|FurBuy logo]]
'''FurBuy''' is an internet-based auction website primarily geared for selling [[furry]] items and items of interest to [[furry fans]].

* '''Address:''' http://www.furbuy.com/
* '''LiveJournal:''' http://community.livejournal.com/furbuy/
* '''Founder:''' [[Jurann]]
* '''Administrators:''' Jurann, [[K'sharra]]
* '''Ran from/to:''' 1 December 2000 - present
* '''Motto:''' ''Your Best Source for FREE Live Furry Auctions''

== History ==

The system was custom-made by Jurann and went live to the public on 1 December 2000. Prior to release, several months of research, development and beta-testing by actual [[:Category:Artists|artists]] was performed; the entire pre-launch process took approximately 10 months to complete.

On November 3, 2001, FurBuy announced in the News section of the website that "FurBuy will be closing permanently on December 1st, 2001", with "Thanks to everyone for an exciting 15-month project".<ref>[http://www.disobey.com/ghostsites/show_exhibit/furbuy Ghost Sites: furbuy.jpg] on disobey.com. Last updated December 4, 2001. Retrieved July 4, 2007.</ref> As of late June 2003, FurBuy had "re-opened as a free website and auction system".<ref>[http://1134.org/stan/dot-com/gallery20/tn/furbuy.com.jpg.html Album: furbuy.com] on 1134.org. Retrieved July 4, 2007.</ref>

Initially FurBuy was based on a system that charged small fees for listing and closing auctions as well as enhanced features offered to sellers. After a couple of weeks of live service, it was decided that all fees would be dropped for use of the system due to a lack of users' desire to pay for such features. Since then the system has been completely free. FurBuy's features include image management/hosting, live auction status on foreign websites, co-branding capability and SMS/text-messaging.

== Status ==

FurBuy is still hosting live auctions and is continually maintained and updated by its admins based on user feedback and interest. In mid-2006 FurBuy announced its partnership with [[FurAffinity]] and since then has been working with FurAffinity to develop crossover features.<ref>[http://community.livejournal.com/furbuy/4811.html It's Official]. July 20, 2006 LiveJournal post by Jurann. Retrieved May 4, 2007.</ref>

In May 2007, Jurann posted that FurBuy had "added the beginning of the FurAffinity linkages, allowing new and existing users both to set their FA username. [...] I'm also working with the folks at FA about getting linkages on their side setup".<ref>[http://jurann.livejournal.com/139782.html FurBuy Taking Off!] May 17, 2007 LiveJournal post by Jurann. Retrieved May 18, 2007.</ref>

In July 2007, FurBuy announced the addition of a feature to "add your [[VCL]] username to your account", which "adds a little icon after your name that links back to your VCL gallery".<ref name="VCL">[http://community.livejournal.com/furbuy/6870.html VCL Integration!] July 12, 2007 LiveJournal post by K'sharra. Retrieved July 13, 2007.</ref> In an added comment on the same post, Jurann stated that the addition of VCL links "actually precedes a deeper VCL integration that we were able to discuss with [[Ch'marr]] at [[AnthroCon]]."<ref name="VCL"/>

== References ==
<references/>

[[Category:Auction websites]]
[[Category:2000 births]]

FurBuy

2007-07-12T20:14:23Z

Ksharra: /* Status */ Adding info on VCL integration

[[Image:Furbuylogo04.gif|right|FurBuy logo]]
'''FurBuy''' is an internet-based auction website primarily geared for selling [[furry]] items and items of interest to [[furry fans]].

* '''Address:''' http://www.furbuy.com/
* '''LiveJournal:''' http://community.livejournal.com/furbuy/
* '''Founder:''' [[Jurann]]
* '''Administrators:''' Jurann, [[K'sharra]]
* '''Ran from/to:''' 1 December 2000 - present
* '''Motto:''' ''Your Best Source for FREE Live Furry Auctions''

== History ==

The system was custom-made by Jurann and went live to the public on 1 December 2000. Prior to release, several months of research, development and beta-testing by actual [[:Category:Artists|artists]] was performed; the entire pre-launch process took approximately 10 months to complete.

On November 3, 2001, FurBuy announced in the News section of the website that "FurBuy will be closing permanently on December 1st, 2001", with "Thanks to everyone for an exciting 15-month project".<ref>[http://www.disobey.com/ghostsites/show_exhibit/furbuy Ghost Sites: furbuy.jpg] on disobey.com. Last updated December 4, 2001. Retrieved July 4, 2007.</ref> As of late June 2003, FurBuy had "re-opened as a free website and auction system".<ref>[http://1134.org/stan/dot-com/gallery20/tn/furbuy.com.jpg.html Album: furbuy.com] on 1134.org. Retrieved July 4, 2007.</ref>

Initially FurBuy was based on a system that charged small fees for listing and closing auctions as well as enhanced features offered to sellers. After a couple of weeks of live service, it was decided that all fees would be dropped for use of the system due to a lack of users' desire to pay for such features. Since then the system has been completely free. FurBuy's features include image management/hosting, live auction status on foreign websites, co-branding capability and SMS/text-messaging.

== Status ==

FurBuy is still hosting live auctions and is continually maintained and updated by its admins based on user feedback and interest. In mid-2006 FurBuy announced its partnership with [[FurAffinity]] and since then has been working with FurAffinity to develop crossover features.<ref>[http://community.livejournal.com/furbuy/4811.html It's Official]. July 20, 2006 LiveJournal post by Jurann. Retrieved May 4, 2007.</ref>

In May 2007, Jurann posted that FurBuy had "28 live auctions! [...] the site hasn't seen this much activity in... Well, years, honestly." He stated that he has "added the beginning of the FurAffinity linkages, allowing new and existing users both to set their FA username. [...] I'm also working with the folks at FA about getting linkages on their side setup".<ref>[http://jurann.livejournal.com/139782.html FurBuy Taking Off!] May 17, 2007 LiveJournal post by Jurann. Retrieved May 18, 2007.</ref>

In July 2007, FurBuy announced the addition of a feature to "add your [[VCL]] username to your account", which "adds a little icon after your name that links back to your VCL gallery".<ref name="VCL">[http://community.livejournal.com/furbuy/6870.html VCL Integration!] July 12, 2007 LiveJournal post by K'sharra. Retrieved July 13, 2007.</ref> In an added comment on the same post, Jurann stated that the addition of VCL links "actually precedes a deeper VCL integration that we were able to discuss with [[Ch'marr]] at [[AnthroCon]]."<ref name="VCL"/>

== References ==
<references/>

[[Category:Auction websites]]
[[Category:2000 births]]

Talk:K'sharra

2007-04-19T05:39:35Z

Ksharra: Formatting change for clarity

I'm sorry, but bidding on your own mate's artwork? I dunno about you, but [[Tad Cooga]] doesn't make me pay for artwork he does; he /gives/ it to me if I ask for it. o.O It's forbidden for family members or spouses to bid on their relative's items on eBay, and for good reason - to me, it's no different from price inflation. I get the suspicion that K'sharra and her mate are working together to erase any evidence of [[Jurann]]'s article and its contents. See [[Talk:Jurann]] about how the Artists Beware posts have now been removed, presumably by [[K'sharra]]. [[User:SpazKitty|Spaz Kitty]] 18:25, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

:The [[Artists Beware]] posts have been removed because they were posted to clarify a concern and make public amends. Instead they have been used to generate nothing but excessive drama, have been quoted in personal attacks, and have only served to worsen things: the exact opposite of the reason why I posted anything. As far as the issue in question from the post, it has been handled. So I see no reason the post should be left up to generate further damage.

:I'm glad that you and your mate are in a permanent relationship and in no need of funds. Jurann and I, though, have only been dating a few months and do not share finances, and I cannot afford to simply give away my artwork. If Jurann bids and wins, he pays me the bidded amount and the artwork is his to keep as part of his collection. He has been collecting my art for many years in this fashion, even before we met. I see no need for this to discontinue. We are neither family nor spouses.

:As far as your suspicion about Jurann's entry, I have nothing to do with his page. I am not working together with him in anything. If you will look at the history of my page, I have only been editing information, not blanking. I am doing my best to keep things fair and impartial, and I have made no attempt to remove pertinent information from my entry. Jurann manages his own dealings (including his WikiFur page), and I have no interest in it.
:[[User:Ksharra|K'sharra]] - April 17, 2007 12:02 PST

: With all due respect, and while defending Jurann is certainly nowhere near my intentions, I believe I should add my $0.02 here (for your reference: wesha_the_leopard @ ebay, 531 feedback, 100% positive). Namely, I don't see any problem in bidding on an item and not actually winning it at the end. For instance, I always stand up to my word, so if I claim (through my bid) that I will pay $399 for a certain item, and somebody else wins it for $400 and then botches the deal and backs out of it, I'm perfectly willing to pay the amount of my bid (on eBay, that's called "second chance offer") for the item. From what I see, this was precisely the case this time; and the items purchased were really ''paid'' for. The artist has received their money; the auction house has received their fee; IRS has received their tax share; the buyer has received their art and is now free to do with it as they wish (even if such wish constitutes re-selling the item somewhere else); everybody is happy, and as long as every party involved strictly adheres to the business rules, it's nobody's business who's who's "mate", relative, friend, or whatever. That's called free (as in freedom) market, the foundation of the capitalist economy. -- [[User:Wesha|Wesha]] 06:03, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

::There is no strict problem with bidding and not winning. The problem is knowing whether or not the bids were motivated by intent to help the seller achieve a better price, rather than intent to win the item for themselves at the lowest possible price. For example, the winning bid at AFF's initial auction was specifically motivated by the intent not to let the pieces sell at such a low price, but to let the seller have another shot at it. Similar bids might also be made with the intent to "get the bidding started", or to keep it going if it has stalled. How many people complain about the ethics of this depends on the exact situation and apparent motive, and some may see nothing wrong with another person helping to increase the price as long as it's not beyond what other bidders are willing to pay - but I feel it can lead to a situation where it appears that an item is "worth" more than it would in auction composed fully of unrelated bidders.
::I explained this in more detail in my reply to the LJ post now deleted, but essentially: A random bidder would have no reason to overbid, because they have no interest in seeing the seller get more than the minimum possible. The closer a person is to the seller, the more likely it is that the reverse is true - if they win, well, they paid a little more, but they were interested in the well-being of the seller so they don't care that much. If they don't win, then a person they care about gets more than they would have otherwise. It raises the apparent value of goods based not on the value of the item to the bidders, but because of a relationship between one of the bidders and the seller - one which the other bidders may not be aware of. This wouldn't matter if the items were easily valued, but in the case of art, how much it is worth often depends on how much others appear to value it.
::Unless the bidder tells us (as actually happened above) that their motive was not to win the item for themselves but to help the seller get more money for it, we can never know that this was the case. However, it becomes far more likely if the bidder is related in some way. I don't want to go so far as to say that related bidders should ''not'' be able to bid, but I think there needs to be more than just their assurance that they are making an "honest" bid. In my mind, this issue could be helped by having such people seal a maximum bid for a particular auction ''before'' the first bid from anyone, and then having a trusted third party ensuring that - if necessary - they bid up to but not beyond this point. It wouldn't be a complete solution (perhaps someone can think of a better one?), but it might help prevent situations where the bidder doesn't really want the item for themselves but later sees it selling at a lower price than they think it deserves, or where they try to milk a person who outbid them for a little bit more. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 16:23, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

::::It doesn't matter how any bid is placed. People could have a problem with that "maximum bid" being there because they might consider it just the same as price inflation. The matter here is that someone who cares about me also collects my art. There's no good way to deal with that. I can't give it to them without hurting myself, and I can't offer sale to them without in some way offending others. I have been under attack for this, but I have yet to hear a valid way to handle it that does not cheat myself, my mate, or the bidders, or any combination of the three.
::::[[User:Ksharra|Ksharra]] 17:18, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

:::::Well . . . if they express interest for a piece that you want to auction, you could offer to do the same exact thing for them for the same price as it goes for at auction. If they don't want it at that price, it wouldn't have mattered if they did bid, because they wouldn't have won. If they do still want it, that means you might not have got ''quite'' as high a price for the first piece as you would have if they were bidding . . . but you'd have a guaranteed sale for that second piece, with no auction fees. Both the third party bidder and your mate should be happy as they both end up with the actual art rather than prints of it, at a price below or equal to the maximum they would have paid, and you would be happy as you'd make close to twice as much money for the same art concept - which hopefully would be easier to make the second time around. The second one might even be an improvement, which would be a bonus for them. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 17:43, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

::::::Again, that cheats them in that neither of the buyers then have a UNIQUE original, which devalues each of the original works. Then, too, I might also run into problems if the buyer of the first original finds out a duplicate has been made later down the line and gets upset because they paid for a unique work and weren't informed of the possibility of another being made. Or if I advertise that a duplicate could be made, then it might lower the price of the bidding, devaluing the art. No, there is NO good way to handle it, from all the offers and options I have gotten. The fact is, being an artist who lives with an art collector is a hassle and not easy at all to deal with. There is no way for me to handle it in a way that makes everyone happy.
::::::[[User:Ksharra|Ksharra]] 20:14, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

::::::: allow me to interject here if i may as i feel i have a great deal of experience in this matter. both as i run furbid-sf and am married to [[Kacey_Miyagami|kacey]].
::::::: the simple fact is that life is not fair. in fact, love and life are cruel companions. which means there is not possible way that all parties may be satisfied with any outcome.
::::::: i collect kaceys work. i have a very large collection in fact. however, none of it is purchased online, or in any auction. for that matter, i do not use furbid-sf. i am privy to information which would make any auction i participated in completely unfair. the same holds true for anyone who is bidding on a mates work. they are given an unfair advantage. though not as great an advantage, but one none-the-less.
::::::: my solution was simple. as kacey lists her work for what she feels it is worth as an opening bid, it becomes the value with which she would be happy with. if i so desire the work, i may purchase it from her at that price. though we trade hours, not cash, since our finances are mixed. if i do not wish to pay that price, the market gets their go at it. and, commissions are my preferred method of purchase. a fixed price for a work i dictate i want.
::::::: is it fair? i do not know. it works. and it keeps me from having a conflict of interest. that is the important part. see, i would rather see kacey happy, and successful through her own deeds and give up work of hers i would want, than to force problems upon her. besides, the way her art improves, in two months everything i get is obsolete.
::::::: --[[User:Ayukawataur|Ayukawataur : FurBid-SF Administaur]] 21:07, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::::: I'm a strong believer in the free market, and that's FREE (as in freedom) for everyone, mates, relatives, friends, or whoever alike, as long as they don't refuse to put their money where their mouth (==bid) is. Even if they bid on their own work. Paying a penalty in form of auction fee / income tax is a sufficient discouragement to do "shil bidding". Stop poking with the market and let the self regulating system it is do the job. -- [[User:Wesha|Wesha]] 22:39, 18 April 2007 (UTC) (Remember: this is my personal opinion and I speak as a private person and not a Wikifur admin at this point).
::::::::: i, on the other hand do not agree with you. what she was a party to was against the policies of furbid-sf. as all parties agreed to those policies when they made an account, then it places it in my court to decide. which, by the way, is also part of the policies.
::::::::: i should also inform you that as furbid-sf is an online auction system, it is bound by the [http://www.ftc.gov/index.shtml federal trade commission] and the rules they make. one of those rules is that shilling/shielding is a form of fraud. which just so happens to be federally prosecutable.
::::::::: which means, though you may have your opinion, it is the law and policies which were agreed to in an electronic contract with furbid-sf which make up the difference.
::::::::: --[[User:Ayukawataur|Ayukawataur : FurBid-SF Administaur]] 01:21, 19 April 2007 (UTC) (this only applies to the furbid-sf issues, not to the aff issue)

:::::::::: First off, "what she was a party to" was posting an auction. You are implying that I was in some way participating in the bidding process, which is incorrect, and I am tired of your accusations against me. I have repeatedly, adamantly, honestly and openly stated that '''I do not condone shill bidding''' and '''I did not ask Jurann to bid on any of my works'''. Stop trying to smear my name.
:::::::::: Second, according to the FTC site, "''“shill bidding” [is] when fraudulent sellers or their partners, known as “shills,” bid on sellers’ items to drive up the price, and “bid shielding” [is] when fraudulent buyers submit very high bids to discourage other bidders from competing for the same item, then retract their bids so that people they know can get the item at a lower price.''" ([http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/online/auctions.shtm FTC Facts For Consumers]) Jurann is not placing fraudulent bids and I am not placing fraudulent sales.
:::::::::: Third, there is nothing in the FTC site that states that friends, roommates, or boyfriends/girlfriends cannot legally purchase items from each other. You can quote eBay all you like, I'm not selling on eBay. As far as Furbid-SF's site rules, read your own Terms: "''As a seller, you are not legally permitted to bid on your own items. This is known as shill bidding. If reported, your auction will be deleted, and you will still be responsible for any fees to us that you initially agreed to pay to use our services.''" ([http://www.furbid.ws/cgi-bin/auction/help.pl?template=terms Furbid-SF Terms, Article 3]) I did not bid on my own auctions. And there is nothing in Furbid's terms that states you cannot bid on a friend or mate's auction. Thus, Jurann did NOT violate the terms of "shill bidding" as defined in the terms on your site.
:::::::::: [[User:Ksharra|Ksharra]] 05:26, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

::The above is geared towards a more general case rather than this specific one, and further discussion should probably go on [[Talk:furry art]] with a view to expanding [[furry art]] to have a section on how people sell it, and what things to be aware of when buying it. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 17:06, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

In a few moments, I will be restoring the reference tags for the [[Artists Beware]] post. References remain valid even when the source is no longer accessable; there is a reason for the retrieved on date being included in references to an online source.

K'sharra [[User_talk:Sine/Apr2007|brought up a couple of points on my talk page]]. In reponse to them, I do think her specific statement that at least one of the pieces will be going up for sale is of note. I also feel that Ayukawataur's statement is highly relevant, and explains a significant part of her reasoning for the [[FurBid-SF]] decisions. It could, perhaps, be framed a little more, perhaps "Ayukawataur stated that, as she perceived" suchandsuch, although I don't think that is necessary. -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 20:18, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

:: i have corrected the reason by which jurann was suspended from furbid-sf. please, for the record, if it must be placed here, it must remain accurate. and, for the record i do not believe that it belongs on her page. the only reason which her account/access to furbid-sf is being monitored is due to jurann. standard operating procedure when one of two mates is suspended. and trust me, i do not like it any more than they do. it means more work for me.
:: --[[User:Ayukawataur|Ayukawataur : FurBid-SF Administaur]] 20:26, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

::I agree with Ayukawataur in that the information on Jurann does not belong on my page. I have already tried to remove it once for its irrelevance, but Sine restored it. I would appreciate if the information about Jurann was placed in the proper section instead of mine.
::[[User:Ksharra|Ksharra]] 20:43, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

:::I'm beginning to concur with the spirit of K'Sharra's request here. Individually the recent edits might make sense in the interest of clarification and providing additional info, but collectively what I see happening is that an article about a very talented furry artist is getting dominated and overshadowed by coverage of a couple of questionable acts in art auctions - not even by her, but by her mate.
:::Think of it this way - how much information about this is likely to be of interest 3-5 years from now? Or in a similar vein - if you were writing an article about similar types of incidents that took place 3-5 years ago, what would you include? --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 20:25, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
:::: Agreed. Move the controversy stuff from this article to Jurann's page where it belongs, and just add a little link to there. I don't like the idea of a person who did nothing more than placing a few pictures up for bidding (100% legitimate activity, mind you) has gotten into a crossfire. -- [[User:Wesha|Wesha]] 20:48, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
::::: actually, i reworded it in the manner i did to emphasis that she is not being held at fault. however, it is relevant in the manner it is posted now. she did have a part in what happened. she may not be responsible, but her part did play out. as she was the one who made such public, that brings even more relevancy.
::::: --[[User:Ayukawataur|Ayukawataur : FurBid-SF Administaur]] 21:13, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Talk:K'sharra

2007-04-19T05:26:43Z

Ksharra:

I'm sorry, but bidding on your own mate's artwork? I dunno about you, but [[Tad Cooga]] doesn't make me pay for artwork he does; he /gives/ it to me if I ask for it. o.O It's forbidden for family members or spouses to bid on their relative's items on eBay, and for good reason - to me, it's no different from price inflation. I get the suspicion that K'sharra and her mate are working together to erase any evidence of [[Jurann]]'s article and its contents. See [[Talk:Jurann]] about how the Artists Beware posts have now been removed, presumably by [[K'sharra]]. [[User:SpazKitty|Spaz Kitty]] 18:25, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

:The [[Artists Beware]] posts have been removed because they were posted to clarify a concern and make public amends. Instead they have been used to generate nothing but excessive drama, have been quoted in personal attacks, and have only served to worsen things: the exact opposite of the reason why I posted anything. As far as the issue in question from the post, it has been handled. So I see no reason the post should be left up to generate further damage.

:I'm glad that you and your mate are in a permanent relationship and in no need of funds. Jurann and I, though, have only been dating a few months and do not share finances, and I cannot afford to simply give away my artwork. If Jurann bids and wins, he pays me the bidded amount and the artwork is his to keep as part of his collection. He has been collecting my art for many years in this fashion, even before we met. I see no need for this to discontinue. We are neither family nor spouses.

:As far as your suspicion about Jurann's entry, I have nothing to do with his page. I am not working together with him in anything. If you will look at the history of my page, I have only been editing information, not blanking. I am doing my best to keep things fair and impartial, and I have made no attempt to remove pertinent information from my entry. Jurann manages his own dealings (including his WikiFur page), and I have no interest in it.
:[[User:Ksharra|K'sharra]] - April 17, 2007 12:02 PST

: With all due respect, and while defending Jurann is certainly nowhere near my intentions, I believe I should add my $0.02 here (for your reference: wesha_the_leopard @ ebay, 531 feedback, 100% positive). Namely, I don't see any problem in bidding on an item and not actually winning it at the end. For instance, I always stand up to my word, so if I claim (through my bid) that I will pay $399 for a certain item, and somebody else wins it for $400 and then botches the deal and backs out of it, I'm perfectly willing to pay the amount of my bid (on eBay, that's called "second chance offer") for the item. From what I see, this was precisely the case this time; and the items purchased were really ''paid'' for. The artist has received their money; the auction house has received their fee; IRS has received their tax share; the buyer has received their art and is now free to do with it as they wish (even if such wish constitutes re-selling the item somewhere else); everybody is happy, and as long as every party involved strictly adheres to the business rules, it's nobody's business who's who's "mate", relative, friend, or whatever. That's called free (as in freedom) market, the foundation of the capitalist economy. -- [[User:Wesha|Wesha]] 06:03, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

::There is no strict problem with bidding and not winning. The problem is knowing whether or not the bids were motivated by intent to help the seller achieve a better price, rather than intent to win the item for themselves at the lowest possible price. For example, the winning bid at AFF's initial auction was specifically motivated by the intent not to let the pieces sell at such a low price, but to let the seller have another shot at it. Similar bids might also be made with the intent to "get the bidding started", or to keep it going if it has stalled. How many people complain about the ethics of this depends on the exact situation and apparent motive, and some may see nothing wrong with another person helping to increase the price as long as it's not beyond what other bidders are willing to pay - but I feel it can lead to a situation where it appears that an item is "worth" more than it would in auction composed fully of unrelated bidders.
::I explained this in more detail in my reply to the LJ post now deleted, but essentially: A random bidder would have no reason to overbid, because they have no interest in seeing the seller get more than the minimum possible. The closer a person is to the seller, the more likely it is that the reverse is true - if they win, well, they paid a little more, but they were interested in the well-being of the seller so they don't care that much. If they don't win, then a person they care about gets more than they would have otherwise. It raises the apparent value of goods based not on the value of the item to the bidders, but because of a relationship between one of the bidders and the seller - one which the other bidders may not be aware of. This wouldn't matter if the items were easily valued, but in the case of art, how much it is worth often depends on how much others appear to value it.
::Unless the bidder tells us (as actually happened above) that their motive was not to win the item for themselves but to help the seller get more money for it, we can never know that this was the case. However, it becomes far more likely if the bidder is related in some way. I don't want to go so far as to say that related bidders should ''not'' be able to bid, but I think there needs to be more than just their assurance that they are making an "honest" bid. In my mind, this issue could be helped by having such people seal a maximum bid for a particular auction ''before'' the first bid from anyone, and then having a trusted third party ensuring that - if necessary - they bid up to but not beyond this point. It wouldn't be a complete solution (perhaps someone can think of a better one?), but it might help prevent situations where the bidder doesn't really want the item for themselves but later sees it selling at a lower price than they think it deserves, or where they try to milk a person who outbid them for a little bit more. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 16:23, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

::::It doesn't matter how any bid is placed. People could have a problem with that "maximum bid" being there because they might consider it just the same as price inflation. The matter here is that someone who cares about me also collects my art. There's no good way to deal with that. I can't give it to them without hurting myself, and I can't offer sale to them without in some way offending others. I have been under attack for this, but I have yet to hear a valid way to handle it that does not cheat myself, my mate, or the bidders, or any combination of the three.
::::[[User:Ksharra|Ksharra]] 17:18, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

:::::Well . . . if they express interest for a piece that you want to auction, you could offer to do the same exact thing for them for the same price as it goes for at auction. If they don't want it at that price, it wouldn't have mattered if they did bid, because they wouldn't have won. If they do still want it, that means you might not have got ''quite'' as high a price for the first piece as you would have if they were bidding . . . but you'd have a guaranteed sale for that second piece, with no auction fees. Both the third party bidder and your mate should be happy as they both end up with the actual art rather than prints of it, at a price below or equal to the maximum they would have paid, and you would be happy as you'd make close to twice as much money for the same art concept - which hopefully would be easier to make the second time around. The second one might even be an improvement, which would be a bonus for them. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 17:43, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

::::::Again, that cheats them in that neither of the buyers then have a UNIQUE original, which devalues each of the original works. Then, too, I might also run into problems if the buyer of the first original finds out a duplicate has been made later down the line and gets upset because they paid for a unique work and weren't informed of the possibility of another being made. Or if I advertise that a duplicate could be made, then it might lower the price of the bidding, devaluing the art. No, there is NO good way to handle it, from all the offers and options I have gotten. The fact is, being an artist who lives with an art collector is a hassle and not easy at all to deal with. There is no way for me to handle it in a way that makes everyone happy.
::::::[[User:Ksharra|Ksharra]] 20:14, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

::::::: allow me to interject here if i may as i feel i have a great deal of experience in this matter. both as i run furbid-sf and am married to [[Kacey_Miyagami|kacey]].
::::::: the simple fact is that life is not fair. in fact, love and life are cruel companions. which means there is not possible way that all parties may be satisfied with any outcome.
::::::: i collect kaceys work. i have a very large collection in fact. however, none of it is purchased online, or in any auction. for that matter, i do not use furbid-sf. i am privy to information which would make any auction i participated in completely unfair. the same holds true for anyone who is bidding on a mates work. they are given an unfair advantage. though not as great an advantage, but one none-the-less.
::::::: my solution was simple. as kacey lists her work for what she feels it is worth as an opening bid, it becomes the value with which she would be happy with. if i so desire the work, i may purchase it from her at that price. though we trade hours, not cash, since our finances are mixed. if i do not wish to pay that price, the market gets their go at it. and, commissions are my preferred method of purchase. a fixed price for a work i dictate i want.
::::::: is it fair? i do not know. it works. and it keeps me from having a conflict of interest. that is the important part. see, i would rather see kacey happy, and successful through her own deeds and give up work of hers i would want, than to force problems upon her. besides, the way her art improves, in two months everything i get is obsolete.
::::::: --[[User:Ayukawataur|Ayukawataur : FurBid-SF Administaur]] 21:07, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::::: I'm a strong believer in the free market, and that's FREE (as in freedom) for everyone, mates, relatives, friends, or whoever alike, as long as they don't refuse to put their money where their mouth (==bid) is. Even if they bid on their own work. Paying a penalty in form of auction fee / income tax is a sufficient discouragement to do "shil bidding". Stop poking with the market and let the self regulating system it is do the job. -- [[User:Wesha|Wesha]] 22:39, 18 April 2007 (UTC) (Remember: this is my personal opinion and I speak as a private person and not a Wikifur admin at this point).
::::::::: i, on the other hand do not agree with you. what she was a party to was against the policies of furbid-sf. as all parties agreed to those policies when they made an account, then it places it in my court to decide. which, by the way, is also part of the policies.
::::::::: i should also inform you that as furbid-sf is an online auction system, it is bound by the [http://www.ftc.gov/index.shtml federal trade commission] and the rules they make. one of those rules is that shilling/shielding is a form of fraud. which just so happens to be federally prosecutable.
::::::::: which means, though you may have your opinion, it is the law and policies which were agreed to in an electronic contract with furbid-sf which make up the difference.
::::::::: --[[User:Ayukawataur|Ayukawataur : FurBid-SF Administaur]] 01:21, 19 April 2007 (UTC) (this only applies to the furbid-sf issues, not to the aff issue)

:::::::::: First off, "what she was a party to" was posting an auction. You are implying that I was in some way participating in the bidding process, which is incorrect, and I am tired of your accusations against me. I have repeatedly, adamantly, honestly and openly stated that '''I do not condone shill bidding''' and '''I did not ask Jurann to bid on any of my works'''. Stop trying to smear my name.
:::::::::: Second, according to the FTC site, "“shill bidding” [is] when fraudulent sellers or their partners, known as “shills,” bid on sellers’ items to drive up the price, and “bid shielding” [is] when fraudulent buyers submit very high bids to discourage other bidders from competing for the same item, then retract their bids so that people they know can get the item at a lower price." ([http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/online/auctions.shtm FTC Facts For Consumers]) Jurann is not placing fraudulent bids and I am not placing fraudulent sales.
:::::::::: Third, there is nothing in the FTC site that states that friends, roommates, or boyfriends/girlfriends cannot legally purchase items from each other. You can quote eBay all you like, I'm not selling on eBay. As far as Furbid-SF's site rules, read your own Terms: "As a seller, you are not legally permitted to bid on your own items. This is known as shill bidding. If reported, your auction will be deleted, and you will still be responsible for any fees to us that you initially agreed to pay to use our services." ([http://www.furbid.ws/cgi-bin/auction/help.pl?template=terms Furbid-SF Terms, Article 3]) I did not bid on my own auctions. And there is nothing in Furbid's terms that states you cannot bid on a friend or mate's auction. Thus, Jurann did NOT violate the terms of "shill bidding" as defined in the terms on your site.
:::::::::: [[User:Ksharra|Ksharra]] 05:26, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

::The above is geared towards a more general case rather than this specific one, and further discussion should probably go on [[Talk:furry art]] with a view to expanding [[furry art]] to have a section on how people sell it, and what things to be aware of when buying it. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 17:06, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

In a few moments, I will be restoring the reference tags for the [[Artists Beware]] post. References remain valid even when the source is no longer accessable; there is a reason for the retrieved on date being included in references to an online source.

K'sharra [[User_talk:Sine/Apr2007|brought up a couple of points on my talk page]]. In reponse to them, I do think her specific statement that at least one of the pieces will be going up for sale is of note. I also feel that Ayukawataur's statement is highly relevant, and explains a significant part of her reasoning for the [[FurBid-SF]] decisions. It could, perhaps, be framed a little more, perhaps "Ayukawataur stated that, as she perceived" suchandsuch, although I don't think that is necessary. -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 20:18, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

:: i have corrected the reason by which jurann was suspended from furbid-sf. please, for the record, if it must be placed here, it must remain accurate. and, for the record i do not believe that it belongs on her page. the only reason which her account/access to furbid-sf is being monitored is due to jurann. standard operating procedure when one of two mates is suspended. and trust me, i do not like it any more than they do. it means more work for me.
:: --[[User:Ayukawataur|Ayukawataur : FurBid-SF Administaur]] 20:26, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

::I agree with Ayukawataur in that the information on Jurann does not belong on my page. I have already tried to remove it once for its irrelevance, but Sine restored it. I would appreciate if the information about Jurann was placed in the proper section instead of mine.
::[[User:Ksharra|Ksharra]] 20:43, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

:::I'm beginning to concur with the spirit of K'Sharra's request here. Individually the recent edits might make sense in the interest of clarification and providing additional info, but collectively what I see happening is that an article about a very talented furry artist is getting dominated and overshadowed by coverage of a couple of questionable acts in art auctions - not even by her, but by her mate.
:::Think of it this way - how much information about this is likely to be of interest 3-5 years from now? Or in a similar vein - if you were writing an article about similar types of incidents that took place 3-5 years ago, what would you include? --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 20:25, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
:::: Agreed. Move the controversy stuff from this article to Jurann's page where it belongs, and just add a little link to there. I don't like the idea of a person who did nothing more than placing a few pictures up for bidding (100% legitimate activity, mind you) has gotten into a crossfire. -- [[User:Wesha|Wesha]] 20:48, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
::::: actually, i reworded it in the manner i did to emphasis that she is not being held at fault. however, it is relevant in the manner it is posted now. she did have a part in what happened. she may not be responsible, but her part did play out. as she was the one who made such public, that brings even more relevancy.
::::: --[[User:Ayukawataur|Ayukawataur : FurBid-SF Administaur]] 21:13, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

K'sharra

2007-04-18T22:17:15Z

Ksharra: Adding date of AFF post

[[Image:Ksharra.jpg|right|thumb|275px|K'sharra's self-depiction of her furry persona]]'''K'sharra''' (born 1982) is a [[furry artist]] who has been in the fandom since 1998. Her real-life last name has changed twice due to marriage and divorce, so her art is sometimes featured under different names, or simply under her furry name. She started in the furry fandom by doing simple artwork for friends, but quickly developed into more of an adult style. She is a contributing artist for [[PlayMouse]], [[HotFurs]] and [[BondoFox]]. She also makes furry-themed necklace pendants and runs her own Cafepress store and [[Second Life]] avatar vendor.

K'sharra lives in Washington state, U.S.A. Some of the furry conventions she has attended include [[Midwest FurFest]], [[All Fur Fun]], [[Mephit Furmeet]], and [[Oklacon]]. She is the conbook lead for [[RainFurrest]] 2007.

== Character ==

As a character, K'sharra is a female orange [[tigress]] with silver hair and sharp spiky bangs. She occasionally frequents [[FurryMUCK]] and [[Second Life]] (as ''Ksharra Manimal''), and is commonly featured as a subject of the artist's work.

== Controversy ==

In April 2007, there was some controversy involving questionable bids on K'sharra's artwork by her mate, [[Jurann]], at [[All_Fur_Fun|AllFurFun]] and on [[FurBid-SF]]. <ref>[[Jurann|WikiFur Entry: Jurann]], under "Controversy". Retrieved April 18, 2007</ref> In regards to the bids at AllFurFun, the staff have stated that they will "amend our policies for next year to discourage this as much as possible"<ref name="AFF">[http://forum.allfurfun.com/viewtopic.php?t=139 "Art show question/gripe"] April 8, 2007 post on AllFurFun's official forum. Retrieved April 18, 2007.</ref> but no action has been taken against either parties, as the con "had not said anything about [shill-bidding regulations] in our Art Show policies"<ref name="AFF"/>. In regards to the incidence on FurBid-SF, K'sharra's "account will be monitored, but she is not facing any direct disciplinary actions."<ref>[http://ayukawataur.livejournal.com/47657.html A recent issue]. April 15, 2007 LiveJournal post by [[Ayukawataur]]. Retrieved April 16, 2007.</ref>

In regards to the bidding controversy, K'sharra made a public post to the [[Artists Beware]] LiveJournal community stating "I have since talked to Jurann and made it clear that I do not condone price inflation."<ref name="toquote">[http://community.livejournal.com/artists_beware/129848.html To quote the Hitchhiker's Guide...] April 10, 2007 post by K'sharra to the [[artists_beware]] community on [[LiveJournal]]. Retrieved April 16, 2007. (Post deleted as of April 17, 2007. [http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:BtIEYl2ZLy0J:community.livejournal.com/artists_beware Cached copy of Artists_Beware front page], retrieved by Google on April 14, 2007.)</ref>

== References ==
<references/>

==External links==
{{Contributor|Ksharra}}
*[http://ksharra.furcen.org/ K'sharra's Personal Gallery/Website]
*[http://www.cafepress.com/ksharra K'sharra's Cafepress store]
*[http://www.furaffinity.net/user/ksharra K'sharra] on [[Fur Affinity]]
*[http://www.furryartpile.com/user/ksharra K'sharra] on [[FurryArtPile]]
*[http://us.vclart.net/vcl/Artists/K%27sharra/ K'sharra] on [[VCL]]

[[Category:People]][[Category:Artists]][[Category:Tiger characters]][[Category:Washington]][[Category:1982 births]]

K'sharra

2007-04-18T21:28:24Z

Ksharra: Minor correction

[[Image:Ksharra.jpg|right|thumb|275px|K'sharra's self-depiction of her furry persona]]'''K'sharra''' (born 1982) is a [[furry artist]] who has been in the fandom since 1998. Her real-life last name has changed twice due to marriage and divorce, so her art is sometimes featured under different names, or simply under her furry name. She started in the furry fandom by doing simple artwork for friends, but quickly developed into more of an adult style. She is a contributing artist for [[PlayMouse]], [[HotFurs]] and [[BondoFox]]. She also makes furry-themed necklace pendants and runs her own Cafepress store and [[Second Life]] avatar vendor.

K'sharra lives in Washington state, U.S.A. Some of the furry conventions she has attended include [[Midwest FurFest]], [[All Fur Fun]], [[Mephit Furmeet]], and [[Oklacon]]. She is the conbook lead for [[RainFurrest]] 2007.

== Character ==

As a character, K'sharra is a female orange [[tigress]] with silver hair and sharp spiky bangs. She occasionally frequents [[FurryMUCK]] and [[Second Life]] (as ''Ksharra Manimal''), and is commonly featured as a subject of the artist's work.

== Controversy ==

In April 2007, there was some controversy involving questionable bids on K'sharra's artwork by her mate, [[Jurann]], at [[All_Fur_Fun|AllFurFun]] and on [[FurBid-SF]]. <ref>[[Jurann|WikiFur Entry: Jurann]], under "Controversy". Retrieved April 18, 2007</ref> In regards to the bids at AllFurFun, the staff have stated that they will "amend our policies for next year to discourage this as much as possible"<ref name="AFF">[http://forum.allfurfun.com/viewtopic.php?t=139 "Art show question/gripe"] on AllFurFun's official forum. Retrieved April 18, 2007.</ref> but no action has been taken against either parties, as the con "had not said anything about [shill-bidding regulations] in our Art Show policies"<ref name="AFF"/>. In regards to the incidence on FurBid-SF, K'sharra's "account will be monitored, but she is not facing any direct disciplinary actions."<ref>[http://ayukawataur.livejournal.com/47657.html A recent issue]. April 15, 2007 LiveJournal post by [[Ayukawataur]]. Retrieved April 16, 2007.</ref>

In regards to the bidding controversy, K'sharra made a public post to the [[Artists Beware]] LiveJournal community stating "I have since talked to Jurann and made it clear that I do not condone price inflation."<ref name="toquote">[http://community.livejournal.com/artists_beware/129848.html To quote the Hitchhiker's Guide...] April 10, 2007 post by K'sharra to the [[artists_beware]] community on [[LiveJournal]]. Retrieved April 16, 2007. (Post deleted as of April 17, 2007. [http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:BtIEYl2ZLy0J:community.livejournal.com/artists_beware Cached copy of Artists_Beware front page], retrieved by Google on April 14, 2007.)</ref>

== References ==
<references/>

==External links==
{{Contributor|Ksharra}}
*[http://ksharra.furcen.org/ K'sharra's Personal Gallery/Website]
*[http://www.cafepress.com/ksharra K'sharra's Cafepress store]
*[http://www.furaffinity.net/user/ksharra K'sharra] on [[Fur Affinity]]
*[http://www.furryartpile.com/user/ksharra K'sharra] on [[FurryArtPile]]
*[http://us.vclart.net/vcl/Artists/K%27sharra/ K'sharra] on [[VCL]]

[[Category:People]][[Category:Artists]][[Category:Tiger characters]][[Category:Washington]][[Category:1982 births]]

K'sharra

2007-04-18T21:22:44Z

Ksharra: Adding back relevant quote from Artists Beware

[[Image:Ksharra.jpg|right|thumb|275px|K'sharra's self-depiction of her furry persona]]'''K'sharra''' (born 1982) is a [[furry artist]] who has been in the fandom since 1998. Her real-life last name has changed twice due to marriage and divorce, so her art is sometimes featured under different names, or simply under her furry name. She started in the furry fandom by doing simple artwork for friends, but quickly developed into more of an adult style. She is a contributing artist for [[PlayMouse]], [[HotFurs]] and [[BondoFox]]. She also makes furry-themed necklace pendants and runs her own Cafepress store and [[Second Life]] avatar vendor.

K'sharra lives in Washington state, U.S.A. Some of the furry conventions she has attended include [[Midwest FurFest]], [[All Fur Fun]], [[Mephit Furmeet]], and [[Oklacon]]. She is the conbook lead for [[RainFurrest]] 2007.

== Character ==

As a character, K'sharra is a female orange [[tigress]] with silver hair and sharp spiky bangs. She occasionally frequents [[FurryMUCK]] and [[Second Life]] (as ''Ksharra Manimal''), and is commonly featured as a subject of the artist's work.

== Controversy ==

In April 2007, there was some controversy involving questionable bids on K'sharra's artwork by her mate, [[Jurann]], at [[All_Fur_Fun|AllFurFun]] and on [[FurBid-SF]]. <ref>[[Jurann|WikiFur Entry: Jurann]], under "Controversy". Retrieved April 18, 2007</ref> In regards to the bids at AllFurFun, the staff have stated that they will "amend our policies for next year to discourage this as much as possible"<ref name="AFF">[http://forum.allfurfun.com/viewtopic.php?t=139 "Art show question/gripe"] on AllFurFun's official forum. Retrieved April 18, 2007.</ref> but no action has been taken against the artist, as the con "had not said anything about [shill-bidding regulations] in our Art Show policies"<ref name="AFF"/>. In regards to the incidence on FurBid-SF, K'sharra's "account will be monitored, but she is not facing any direct disciplinary actions."<ref>[http://ayukawataur.livejournal.com/47657.html A recent issue]. April 15, 2007 LiveJournal post by [[Ayukawataur]]. Retrieved April 16, 2007.</ref>

In regards to the bidding controversy, K'sharra made a public post to the [[Artists Beware]] LiveJournal community stating "I have since talked to Jurann and made it clear that I do not condone price inflation."<ref name="toquote">[http://community.livejournal.com/artists_beware/129848.html To quote the Hitchhiker's Guide...] April 10, 2007 post by K'sharra to the [[artists_beware]] community on [[LiveJournal]]. Retrieved April 16, 2007. (Post deleted as of April 17, 2007. [http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:BtIEYl2ZLy0J:community.livejournal.com/artists_beware Cached copy of Artists_Beware front page], retrieved by Google on April 14, 2007.)</ref>

== References ==
<references/>

==External links==
{{Contributor|Ksharra}}
*[http://ksharra.furcen.org/ K'sharra's Personal Gallery/Website]
*[http://www.cafepress.com/ksharra K'sharra's Cafepress store]
*[http://www.furaffinity.net/user/ksharra K'sharra] on [[Fur Affinity]]
*[http://www.furryartpile.com/user/ksharra K'sharra] on [[FurryArtPile]]
*[http://us.vclart.net/vcl/Artists/K%27sharra/ K'sharra] on [[VCL]]

[[Category:People]][[Category:Artists]][[Category:Tiger characters]][[Category:Washington]][[Category:1982 births]]

K'sharra

2007-04-18T21:18:28Z

Ksharra: Minor rewording

K'sharra

2007-04-18T21:17:35Z

Ksharra: Removing unnecessary controversy details (see multiple requests on Talk:K'sharra) and adding reference/info

Talk:K'sharra

2007-04-18T20:16:52Z

Ksharra:

Talk:K'sharra

2007-04-18T20:14:57Z

Ksharra:

Talk:K'sharra

2007-04-18T17:18:37Z

Ksharra:

User talk:Ksharra

2007-04-17T21:03:44Z

Ksharra: /* Signing just the date/time */

{{welcome}}--[[User:KendricksRedtail|Kendricks Redtail]] 08:13, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

==Signing just the date/time==
This rarely comes up, but if you want to insert just the current date and time you can use five tildes: <nowiki>~~~~~</nowiki> --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 21:01, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

::Ah, thank you. [[User:Ksharra|Ksharra]] 21:03, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Talk:K'sharra

2007-04-17T20:44:21Z

Ksharra: Oops, accidentally listed my name twice

Talk:K'sharra

2007-04-17T20:43:35Z

Ksharra: Figured out how to add the date

Talk:K'sharra

2007-04-17T20:39:59Z

Ksharra:

Talk:K'sharra

2007-04-17T19:03:09Z

Ksharra: Formatting and grammar correction

Talk:K'sharra

2007-04-17T18:44:08Z

Ksharra: Clarification

Talk:K'sharra

2007-04-17T18:40:14Z

Ksharra:

K'sharra

2007-04-17T17:39:45Z

Ksharra: Clarification

K'sharra

2007-04-17T17:33:35Z

Ksharra: Removal of invalid references

K'sharra

2007-04-17T17:31:51Z

Ksharra: Retitle

[[Image:Ksharra.jpg|right|thumb|275px|K'sharra's self-depiction of her furry persona]]'''K'sharra''' (born 1982) is a [[furry artist]] who has been in the fandom since 1998. Her real-life last name has changed twice due to marriage and divorce, so her art is sometimes featured under different names, or simply under her furry name. She started in the furry fandom by doing simple artwork for friends, but quickly developed into more of an adult style. She is a contributing artist for [[PlayMouse]], [[HotFurs]] and [[BondoFox]]. She also makes furry-themed necklace pendants and runs her own Cafepress store and [[Second Life]] avatar vendor.

K'sharra lives in Washington state, U.S.A. Some of the furry conventions she has attended include [[Midwest FurFest]], [[All Fur Fun]], [[Mephit Furmeet]], and [[Oklacon]]. She is the conbook lead for [[RainFurrest]] 2007.

== Character ==

As a character, K'sharra is a female orange [[tigress]] with silver hair and sharp spiky bangs. She occasionally frequents [[FurryMUCK]] and [[Second Life]] (as ''Ksharra Manimal''), and is commonly featured as a subject of the artist's work.

== Controversy ==

In April 2007, K'sharra made a public post to the [[Artists Beware]] community on LiveJournal, stating that her mate [[Jurann]] "outbid a couple of people on my art pieces" in a convention [[art show]] "because he felt they would sell for higher at a different con. At the end of the con, he paid for the pieces and gave them back to me to sell elsewhere."<ref name="toquote">[http://community.livejournal.com/artists_beware/129848.html To quote the Hitchhiker's Guide...] April 10, 2007 post by K'sharra to the [[artists_beware]] community on [[LiveJournal]]. Retrieved April 16, 2007.</ref>

In an edit to the post to clarify, she stated "There was a misunderstanding made and [[Jurann]] was thought to be shill bidding on pieces at an art show. I have since talked to [[Jurann]] and made it clear that I do not condone price inflation."<ref name="toquote"/>

K'sharra stated that she "understand[s] that it may look suspicious for my mate to be bidding on my artwork, since we live together and all"<ref>[http://community.livejournal.com/artists_beware/129848.html?thread=2810936#t2810936 Comment by K'sharra] posted April 11, 2007 to artists_beware. Retrieved April 16, 2007.</ref> but that "By making him bid on my work, it pits him against everyone else, just as if we were not mates. And I require it of him that he treat it as such. He does not bid on artwork for my benefit."<ref>[http://community.livejournal.com/artists_beware/129848.html?thread=2815800#t2815800 Comment by K'sharra] posted April 11, 2007 to artists_beware. Retrieved April 16, 2007.</ref>

After using a newly-created account to bid on one of K'sharra's auctions on [[FurBid-SF]], Jurann was suspended by the [[Administaur]]. K'sharra's "account will be monitored, but she is not facing any direct disciplinary actions."<ref>[http://ayukawataur.livejournal.com/47657.html A recent issue]. April 15, 2007 LiveJournal post by [[Ayukawataur]]. Retrieved April 16, 2007.</ref>

== References ==
<references/>

==External links==
{{Contributor|Ksharra}}
*[http://ksharra.furcen.org/ K'sharra's Personal Gallery/Website]
*[http://www.cafepress.com/ksharra K'sharra's Cafepress store]
*[http://www.furaffinity.net/user/ksharra K'sharra] on [[Fur Affinity]]
*[http://www.furryartpile.com/user/ksharra K'sharra] on [[FurryArtPile]]
*[http://us.vclart.net/vcl/Artists/K%27sharra/ K'sharra] on [[VCL]]

[[Category:People]][[Category:Artists]][[Category:Tiger characters]][[Category:Washington]][[Category:1982 births]]

RainFurrest

2007-04-17T08:24:50Z

Ksharra: /* Staff */

'''RainFurrest''' is a [[convention]] scheduled for August 24-26, 2007 at the Holiday Inn [[Wikipedia:SeaTac|SeaTac]] in Washington state, U.S.A.

== [[Guests of Honor]] ==
* '''Artist Guest of Honor:''' [[Monika Livingstone]]
* '''Fan Guest of Honor:''' [[Stalking Cat]]
* '''Writer Guest of Honor:''' [[Phil Geusz]]
* '''Musical Guest of Honor:''' [[Alexander James Adams - Faerie Tale Minstrel]]

==About==
RainFurrest was conceived by a group of individuals in the Pacific Northwest region who wished to start a new furry convention in the absence of [[Conifur Northwest]]. [[Gene Armstrong]] was one of those amongst the group who was asked to help coordinate and lead the efforts as he has a vast background of experience working in all aspects of convention development from programming to chairing conventions in the sci-fi and fantasy [[fandom|fandoms]]. {{fact}} As of March 2007, registration is open and reservations are being taken for dealer's tables and art show panels.

==Events==
RainFurrest is soliciting suggestions for events, you can send your suggestions or volunteer to be part of an event [http://www.rainfurrest.com/contact.php?contact=Events on the website]. Suggested events include:
* Fursuit Life Drawing class -- No Organizer yet
* Bodypainted life drawing class -- No Organizer yet
* Second Life - How to build your avatar -- [[K'sharra]] (aka Ksharra Manimal)
* Second Life - How to build worlds -- [[Selkit Diller]]
* How to build a fursuit head -- No Organizer yet
* How to build a fursuit -- No Organizer yet
* Ham radio for furries -- [[Trapa]], [[Loial]], [[Kay]], [[Alfador]]
* Ham radio Fox Hunt -- [[Kay]]
* Fursuit Performing -- [[North]]
* How to tie up your furry mate -- No Organizer yet
* Finding the spirit animal in you. -- No Organizer yet
* Bring in and show off your exotic pets -- No Organizer yet

== Staff ==
*'''Chairmen:''' Gene Armstrong & Tank "Trapa" Winters
:'''Personal Assistant:''' Christine Herman
:'''Hotel:''' Bobbie DuFault & Jerry Geiseke
:'''Chairman Secretary:''' Indigo
:'''Charities:''' Rocky
:'''Special Projects:''' K. Ashadan Sachertorte

*'''Treasury:''' Ari Goldstien
:'''Art Show:''' [[Jurann]], ''BigKitty''
:'''Artist’s Alley:''' [[Jurann]]
:'''Dealer's Den:''' G’razel & Lord Strega

*'''Operations Lead:''' Tank "Trapa" Winters
:'''Con-ops:''' Rye Bunny, ''Sparkling, Pipkin, Silken''
:'''Security:''' Ravenwood, ''Dave, Warhorse''
:'''Logistics:''' GreyFox
:'''Registration:''' Loial Otter, ''KayFox, Sparkling''
:'''Hospitality:''' Tess the Red Pony, ''Fleetwolf''

*'''Promotional:''' cyRex Wolf
:'''PRs / Pocket Programs:'''
:'''Con Book:''' [[K'sharra]], ''cyRex Wolf, Davecko Fox''
:'''Advertising:''' [[K'sharra]]
:'''Website Design:''' [[Jurann]], ''[[K'sharra]]''
:'''Website Programming:''' Tank "Trapa" Winters

*'''Programming Director:''' Gene Armstrong
:'''Assistant Dir. Of Programming:''' Miles
:'''Events Theatre:''' cyRex Wolf
::'''Dance:''' cyRex Wolf
::'''Masquerade:''' Xodiac
::'''Video:''' Vergerwolf
:'''Fursuit Track:''' Xodiac
:'''Art Track:''' Doc McDowell
:'''Writing Track:''' Fox Cutter
:'''SL Panels:''' Miles
:'''Art Jam:''' Mortain
:'''Console Gaming:'''
:'''Tabletop Gaming:''' Caladon

== Charity==
* [http://www.sarveywildlife.org/ Sarvey Wildlife Center]

== References ==
<references/>

==External links==
* [http://www.rainfurrest.com/ RainFurrest Convention Website]
* [http://www.rainfurrest.com/phpbb/ RainFurrest Con MessageBoard]
* [http://community.livejournal.com/rainfurrest/ RainFurrest LJ Community]

[[Category:Conventions]]
[[Category:Washington]]
[[Category:2007 events]]

RainFurrest

2007-04-17T08:23:29Z

Ksharra: /* Staff */

'''RainFurrest''' is a [[convention]] scheduled for August 24-26, 2007 at the Holiday Inn [[Wikipedia:SeaTac|SeaTac]] in Washington state, U.S.A.

== [[Guests of Honor]] ==
* '''Artist Guest of Honor:''' [[Monika Livingstone]]
* '''Fan Guest of Honor:''' [[Stalking Cat]]
* '''Writer Guest of Honor:''' [[Phil Geusz]]
* '''Musical Guest of Honor:''' [[Alexander James Adams - Faerie Tale Minstrel]]

==About==
RainFurrest was conceived by a group of individuals in the Pacific Northwest region who wished to start a new furry convention in the absence of [[Conifur Northwest]]. [[Gene Armstrong]] was one of those amongst the group who was asked to help coordinate and lead the efforts as he has a vast background of experience working in all aspects of convention development from programming to chairing conventions in the sci-fi and fantasy [[fandom|fandoms]]. {{fact}} As of March 2007, registration is open and reservations are being taken for dealer's tables and art show panels.

==Events==
RainFurrest is soliciting suggestions for events, you can send your suggestions or volunteer to be part of an event [http://www.rainfurrest.com/contact.php?contact=Events on the website]. Suggested events include:
* Fursuit Life Drawing class -- No Organizer yet
* Bodypainted life drawing class -- No Organizer yet
* Second Life - How to build your avatar -- [[K'sharra]] (aka Ksharra Manimal)
* Second Life - How to build worlds -- [[Selkit Diller]]
* How to build a fursuit head -- No Organizer yet
* How to build a fursuit -- No Organizer yet
* Ham radio for furries -- [[Trapa]], [[Loial]], [[Kay]], [[Alfador]]
* Ham radio Fox Hunt -- [[Kay]]
* Fursuit Performing -- [[North]]
* How to tie up your furry mate -- No Organizer yet
* Finding the spirit animal in you. -- No Organizer yet
* Bring in and show off your exotic pets -- No Organizer yet

== Staff ==
*'''Chairmen:''' Gene Armstrong & Tank "Trapa" Winters
:'''Personal Assistant:''' Christine Herman
:'''Hotel:''' Bobbie DuFault & Jerry Geiseke
:'''Chairman Secretary:''' Indigo
:'''Charities:''' Rocky
:'''Special Projects:''' K. Ashadan Sachertorte

*'''Treasury:''' Ari Goldstien
:'''Art Show:''' [[Jurann]], ''BigKitty''
:'''Artist’s Alley:''' [[Jurann]]
:'''Dealer's Den:''' G’razel & Lord Strega

*'''Operations Lead:''' Tank "Trapa" Winters
:'''Con-ops:''' Rye Bunny, ''Sparkling, Pipkin, Silken''
:'''Security:''' Ravenwood, ''Dave, Warhorse''
:'''Logistics:''' GreyFox
:'''Registration:''' Loial Otter, ''KayFox, Sparkling''
:'''Hospitality:''' Tess the Red Pony, ''Fleetwolf''

*'''Promotional:''' cyRex Wolf
:'''PRs / Pocket Programs:'''
:'''Con Book:''' [[K’sharra]], ''cyRex Wolf, Davecko Fox''
:'''Advertising:''' [[K'sharra]]
:'''Website Design:''' [[Jurann]], ''[[K'sharra]]''
:'''Website Programming:''' Tank "Trapa" Winters

*'''Programming Director:''' Gene Armstrong
:'''Assistant Dir. Of Programming:''' Miles
:'''Events Theatre:''' cyRex Wolf
::'''Dance:''' cyRex Wolf
::'''Masquerade:''' Xodiac
::'''Video:''' Vergerwolf
:'''Fursuit Track:''' Xodiac
:'''Art Track:''' Doc McDowell
:'''Writing Track:''' Fox Cutter
:'''SL Panels:''' Miles
:'''Art Jam:''' Mortain
:'''Console Gaming:'''
:'''Tabletop Gaming:''' Caladon

== Charity==
* [http://www.sarveywildlife.org/ Sarvey Wildlife Center]

== References ==
<references/>

==External links==
* [http://www.rainfurrest.com/ RainFurrest Convention Website]
* [http://www.rainfurrest.com/phpbb/ RainFurrest Con MessageBoard]
* [http://community.livejournal.com/rainfurrest/ RainFurrest LJ Community]

[[Category:Conventions]]
[[Category:Washington]]
[[Category:2007 events]]

RainFurrest

2007-04-17T08:21:53Z

Ksharra: /* Staff */ Update

'''RainFurrest''' is a [[convention]] scheduled for August 24-26, 2007 at the Holiday Inn [[Wikipedia:SeaTac|SeaTac]] in Washington state, U.S.A.

== [[Guests of Honor]] ==
* '''Artist Guest of Honor:''' [[Monika Livingstone]]
* '''Fan Guest of Honor:''' [[Stalking Cat]]
* '''Writer Guest of Honor:''' [[Phil Geusz]]
* '''Musical Guest of Honor:''' [[Alexander James Adams - Faerie Tale Minstrel]]

==About==
RainFurrest was conceived by a group of individuals in the Pacific Northwest region who wished to start a new furry convention in the absence of [[Conifur Northwest]]. [[Gene Armstrong]] was one of those amongst the group who was asked to help coordinate and lead the efforts as he has a vast background of experience working in all aspects of convention development from programming to chairing conventions in the sci-fi and fantasy [[fandom|fandoms]]. {{fact}} As of March 2007, registration is open and reservations are being taken for dealer's tables and art show panels.

==Events==
RainFurrest is soliciting suggestions for events, you can send your suggestions or volunteer to be part of an event [http://www.rainfurrest.com/contact.php?contact=Events on the website]. Suggested events include:
* Fursuit Life Drawing class -- No Organizer yet
* Bodypainted life drawing class -- No Organizer yet
* Second Life - How to build your avatar -- [[K'sharra]] (aka Ksharra Manimal)
* Second Life - How to build worlds -- [[Selkit Diller]]
* How to build a fursuit head -- No Organizer yet
* How to build a fursuit -- No Organizer yet
* Ham radio for furries -- [[Trapa]], [[Loial]], [[Kay]], [[Alfador]]
* Ham radio Fox Hunt -- [[Kay]]
* Fursuit Performing -- [[North]]
* How to tie up your furry mate -- No Organizer yet
* Finding the spirit animal in you. -- No Organizer yet
* Bring in and show off your exotic pets -- No Organizer yet

== Staff ==
*'''Chairmen:''' Gene Armstrong & Tank "Trapa" Winters
:'''Personal Assistant:''' Christine Herman
:'''Hotel:''' Bobbie DuFault & Jerry Geiseke
:'''Chairman Secretary:''' Indigo
:'''Charities:''' Rocky
:'''Special Projects:''' K. Ashadan Sachertorte

*'''Treasury:''' Ari Goldstien
:'''Art Show:''' [[Jurann]], ''BigKitty''
:'''Artist’s Alley:''' [[Jurann]]
:'''Dealer%27s Den:''' G’razel & Lord Strega

*'''Operations Lead:''' Tank "Trapa" Winters
:'''Con-ops:''' Rye Bunny, ''Sparkling, Pipkin, Silken''
:'''Security:''' Ravenwood, ''Dave, Warhorse''
:'''Logistics:''' GreyFox
:'''Registration:''' Loial Otter, ''KayFox, Sparkling''
:'''Hospitality:''' Tess the Red Pony, ''Fleetwolf''

*'''Promotional:''' cyRex Wolf
:'''PRs / Pocket Programs:'''
:'''Con Book:''' [[K’sharra]], ''cyRex Wolf, Davecko Fox''
:'''Advertising:''' [[K'sharra]]
:'''Website Design:''' [[Jurann]], ''[[K'sharra]]''
:'''Website Programming:''' Tank "Trapa" Winters

*'''Programming Director:''' Gene Armstrong
:'''Assistant Dir. Of Programming:''' Miles
:'''Events Theatre:''' cyRex Wolf
::'''Dance:''' cyRex Wolf
::'''Masquerade:''' Xodiac
::'''Video:''' Vergerwolf
:'''Fursuit Track:''' Xodiac
:'''Art Track:''' Doc McDowell
:'''Writing Track:''' Fox Cutter
:'''SL Panels:''' Miles
:'''Art Jam:''' Mortain
:'''Console Gaming:'''
:'''Tabletop Gaming:''' Caladon

== Charity==
* [http://www.sarveywildlife.org/ Sarvey Wildlife Center]

== References ==
<references/>

==External links==
* [http://www.rainfurrest.com/ RainFurrest Convention Website]
* [http://www.rainfurrest.com/phpbb/ RainFurrest Con MessageBoard]
* [http://community.livejournal.com/rainfurrest/ RainFurrest LJ Community]

[[Category:Conventions]]
[[Category:Washington]]
[[Category:2007 events]]

RainFurrest

2007-04-17T08:15:06Z

Ksharra: /* Events */

'''RainFurrest''' is a [[convention]] scheduled for August 24-26, 2007 at the Holiday Inn [[Wikipedia:SeaTac|SeaTac]] in Washington state, U.S.A.

== [[Guests of Honor]] ==
* '''Artist Guest of Honor:''' [[Monika Livingstone]]
* '''Fan Guest of Honor:''' [[Stalking Cat]]
* '''Writer Guest of Honor:''' [[Phil Geusz]]
* '''Musical Guest of Honor:''' [[Alexander James Adams - Faerie Tale Minstrel]]

==About==
RainFurrest was conceived by a group of individuals in the Pacific Northwest region who wished to start a new furry convention in the absence of [[Conifur Northwest]]. [[Gene Armstrong]] was one of those amongst the group who was asked to help coordinate and lead the efforts as he has a vast background of experience working in all aspects of convention development from programming to chairing conventions in the sci-fi and fantasy [[fandom|fandoms]]. {{fact}} As of March 2007, registration is open and reservations are being taken for dealer's tables and art show panels.

==Events==
RainFurrest is soliciting suggestions for events, you can send your suggestions or volunteer to be part of an event [http://www.rainfurrest.com/contact.php?contact=Events on the website]. Suggested events include:
* Fursuit Life Drawing class -- No Organizer yet
* Bodypainted life drawing class -- No Organizer yet
* Second Life - How to build your avatar -- [[K'sharra]] (aka Ksharra Manimal)
* Second Life - How to build worlds -- [[Selkit Diller]]
* How to build a fursuit head -- No Organizer yet
* How to build a fursuit -- No Organizer yet
* Ham radio for furries -- [[Trapa]], [[Loial]], [[Kay]], [[Alfador]]
* Ham radio Fox Hunt -- [[Kay]]
* Fursuit Performing -- [[North]]
* How to tie up your furry mate -- No Organizer yet
* Finding the spirit animal in you. -- No Organizer yet
* Bring in and show off your exotic pets -- No Organizer yet

== Staff ==
* '''Chairman:''' [[Gene Armstrong]]
* '''Co-Chair:''' [[Trapa]]
* '''Con-ops Lead:''' [[Ryebunny]]
* '''Con-ops Staff:''' [[Sparkling]]
* '''Registration Lead:''' [[Loial]]
* '''Registration Staff:''' [[Sparkling]]
* '''Treasurer:''' Ari Goldstein
* '''[[Art Show]] Lead:''' [[Jurann]]<ref>[http://jurann.livejournal.com/127634.html?thread=416146#t416146 November 15, 2006 comment] on [[LiveJournal]] by [[Jurann]]. Retrieved November 15, 2006.</ref>
* '''[[Art Show]] Staff:''' [[BigKitty]]
* '''Dealer's Den:''' [[G'razel]]
* '''Artists' Alley:''' [[Jurann]]
* '''Programming Lead:''' [[Gene Armstrong]]
* '''Programming Staff:''' Miles
* '''Events Theatre:''' [[cyRex]], [[Verger]]
* '''Art Panels:''' TBA
* '''Fursuiting Panels:''' [[Xodiac]]
* '''Writing Panels:''' [[FoxCutter]]
* '''Security Lead:''' [[Ravenwood]]
* '''Con Book:''' [[K'sharra]]
* '''Hotel liaison:''' [[Gene Armstrong]]
* '''Gaming (Console):''' TBA
* '''Gaming (Tabletop):''' [[Caladon]]
* '''Website Design:''' [[Jurann]] and [[K'sharra]]
* '''Website Programming:''' [[Trapa]]

== Charity==
* [http://www.sarveywildlife.org/ Sarvey Wildlife Center]

== References ==
<references/>

==External links==
* [http://www.rainfurrest.com/ RainFurrest Convention Website]
* [http://www.rainfurrest.com/phpbb/ RainFurrest Con MessageBoard]
* [http://community.livejournal.com/rainfurrest/ RainFurrest LJ Community]

[[Category:Conventions]]
[[Category:Washington]]
[[Category:2007 events]]

RainFurrest

2007-04-17T08:14:03Z

Ksharra: /* Guests of Honor */

'''RainFurrest''' is a [[convention]] scheduled for August 24-26, 2007 at the Holiday Inn [[Wikipedia:SeaTac|SeaTac]] in Washington state, U.S.A.

== [[Guests of Honor]] ==
* '''Artist Guest of Honor:''' [[Monika Livingstone]]
* '''Fan Guest of Honor:''' [[Stalking Cat]]
* '''Writer Guest of Honor:''' [[Phil Geusz]]
* '''Musical Guest of Honor:''' [[Alexander James Adams - Faerie Tale Minstrel]]

==About==
RainFurrest was conceived by a group of individuals in the Pacific Northwest region who wished to start a new furry convention in the absence of [[Conifur Northwest]]. [[Gene Armstrong]] was one of those amongst the group who was asked to help coordinate and lead the efforts as he has a vast background of experience working in all aspects of convention development from programming to chairing conventions in the sci-fi and fantasy [[fandom|fandoms]]. {{fact}} As of March 2007, registration is open and reservations are being taken for dealer's tables and art show panels.

==Events==
RainFurrest is soliciting suggestions for events, you can send your suggestions or volunteer to be part of an event [http://www.rainfurrest.com/contact.php?contact=Events on the website]. Suggested events include:
* Fursuit Life Drawing class -- No Organizer yet
* Bodypainted life drawing class -- No Organizer yet
* Second Life - How to build your avatar -- Ksharra Manimal
* Second Life - How to build worlds -- [[Selkit Diller]]
* How to build a fursuit head -- No Organizer yet
* How to build a fursuit -- No Organizer yet
* Ham radio for furries -- [[Trapa]], [[Loial]], [[Kay]], [[Alfador]]
* Ham radio Fox Hunt -- [[Kay]]
* Fursuit Performing -- [[North]]
* How to tie up your furry mate -- No Organizer yet
* Finding the spirit animal in you. -- No Organizer yet
* Bring in and show off your exotic pets -- No Organizer yet

== Staff ==
* '''Chairman:''' [[Gene Armstrong]]
* '''Co-Chair:''' [[Trapa]]
* '''Con-ops Lead:''' [[Ryebunny]]
* '''Con-ops Staff:''' [[Sparkling]]
* '''Registration Lead:''' [[Loial]]
* '''Registration Staff:''' [[Sparkling]]
* '''Treasurer:''' Ari Goldstein
* '''[[Art Show]] Lead:''' [[Jurann]]<ref>[http://jurann.livejournal.com/127634.html?thread=416146#t416146 November 15, 2006 comment] on [[LiveJournal]] by [[Jurann]]. Retrieved November 15, 2006.</ref>
* '''[[Art Show]] Staff:''' [[BigKitty]]
* '''Dealer's Den:''' [[G'razel]]
* '''Artists' Alley:''' [[Jurann]]
* '''Programming Lead:''' [[Gene Armstrong]]
* '''Programming Staff:''' Miles
* '''Events Theatre:''' [[cyRex]], [[Verger]]
* '''Art Panels:''' TBA
* '''Fursuiting Panels:''' [[Xodiac]]
* '''Writing Panels:''' [[FoxCutter]]
* '''Security Lead:''' [[Ravenwood]]
* '''Con Book:''' [[K'sharra]]
* '''Hotel liaison:''' [[Gene Armstrong]]
* '''Gaming (Console):''' TBA
* '''Gaming (Tabletop):''' [[Caladon]]
* '''Website Design:''' [[Jurann]] and [[K'sharra]]
* '''Website Programming:''' [[Trapa]]

== Charity==
* [http://www.sarveywildlife.org/ Sarvey Wildlife Center]

== References ==
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==External links==
* [http://www.rainfurrest.com/ RainFurrest Convention Website]
* [http://www.rainfurrest.com/phpbb/ RainFurrest Con MessageBoard]
* [http://community.livejournal.com/rainfurrest/ RainFurrest LJ Community]

[[Category:Conventions]]
[[Category:Washington]]
[[Category:2007 events]]

K'sharra

2007-04-17T07:24:27Z

Ksharra: Removal of unnecessary information & biased quote pertaining mostly to another person

[[Image:Ksharra.jpg|right|thumb|275px|K'sharra's self-depiction of her furry persona]]'''K'sharra''' (born 1982) is a [[furry artist]] who has been in the fandom since 1998. Her real-life last name has changed twice due to marriage and divorce, so her art is sometimes featured under different names, or simply under her furry name. She started in the furry fandom by doing simple artwork for friends, but quickly developed into more of an adult style. She is a contributing artist for [[PlayMouse]], [[HotFurs]] and [[BondoFox]]. She also makes furry-themed necklace pendants and runs her own Cafepress store and [[Second Life]] avatar vendor.

K'sharra lives in Washington state, U.S.A. Some of the furry conventions she has attended include [[Midwest FurFest]], [[All Fur Fun]], [[Mephit Furmeet]], and [[Oklacon]]. She is the conbook lead for [[RainFurrest]] 2007.

== Character ==

As a character, K'sharra is a female orange [[tigress]] with silver hair and sharp spiky bangs. She occasionally frequents [[FurryMUCK]] and [[Second Life]] (as ''Ksharra Manimal''), and is commonly featured as a subject of the artist's work.

== Auctions ==

In April 2007, K'sharra made a public post to the [[Artists Beware]] community on LiveJournal, stating that her mate [[Jurann]] "outbid a couple of people on my art pieces" in a convention [[art show]] "because he felt they would sell for higher at a different con. At the end of the con, he paid for the pieces and gave them back to me to sell elsewhere."<ref name="toquote">[http://community.livejournal.com/artists_beware/129848.html To quote the Hitchhiker's Guide...] April 10, 2007 post by K'sharra to the [[artists_beware]] community on [[LiveJournal]]. Retrieved April 16, 2007.</ref>

In an edit to the post to clarify, she stated "There was a misunderstanding made and [[Jurann]] was thought to be shill bidding on pieces at an art show. I have since talked to [[Jurann]] and made it clear that I do not condone price inflation."<ref name="toquote"/>

K'sharra stated that she "understand[s] that it may look suspicious for my mate to be bidding on my artwork, since we live together and all"<ref>[http://community.livejournal.com/artists_beware/129848.html?thread=2810936#t2810936 Comment by K'sharra] posted April 11, 2007 to artists_beware. Retrieved April 16, 2007.</ref> but that "By making him bid on my work, it pits him against everyone else, just as if we were not mates. And I require it of him that he treat it as such. He does not bid on artwork for my benefit."<ref>[http://community.livejournal.com/artists_beware/129848.html?thread=2815800#t2815800 Comment by K'sharra] posted April 11, 2007 to artists_beware. Retrieved April 16, 2007.</ref>

After using a newly-created account to bid on one of K'sharra's auctions on [[FurBid-SF]], Jurann was suspended by the [[Administaur]]. K'sharra's "account will be monitored, but she is not facing any direct disciplinary actions."<ref>[http://ayukawataur.livejournal.com/47657.html A recent issue]. April 15, 2007 LiveJournal post by [[Ayukawataur]]. Retrieved April 16, 2007.</ref>

== References ==
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==External links==
{{Contributor|Ksharra}}
*[http://ksharra.furcen.org/ K'sharra's Personal Gallery/Website]
*[http://www.cafepress.com/ksharra K'sharra's Cafepress store]
*[http://www.furaffinity.net/user/ksharra K'sharra] on [[Fur Affinity]]
*[http://www.furryartpile.com/user/ksharra K'sharra] on [[FurryArtPile]]
*[http://us.vclart.net/vcl/Artists/K%27sharra/ K'sharra] on [[VCL]]

[[Category:People]][[Category:Artists]][[Category:Tiger characters]][[Category:Washington]][[Category:1982 births]]

User talk:Sine/Apr2007

2007-04-17T07:14:17Z

Ksharra: /* About My Page */

== About My Page ==

The reason I have taken out the part about Jurann is because it does not pertain to me in particular. There is no reason there should be an excerpt about Jurann's account being suspended under my entry.

I subtracted the part about the piece going up for sale at a later date because I don't feel that that information is necessary to a Wiki article. And I didn't do anything wrong, so Ayuka's little quote there about me not admitting to anything should not stand either. That statement of "refus[ing] to acknowledge any action they made could possibly be wrong" is misleading and implies that wrong was done. The only part I had in the matter under question was that I posted an auction. Leaving the statement in there only serves to give bias.

I would appreciate it if you would correct the entry, since you will not allow my changes to stand. Thank you.

K'sharra

User talk:Sine/Apr2007

2007-04-17T07:13:53Z

Ksharra: About the changes to my page...