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		<title>Talk:Jessica Elwood</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jimbob: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;what kind of faggotry is this? /b/ nor ED was never behind the raid AKA: there was no threads to raid JE prior to the &amp;quot;hacking&amp;quot;. jessica did this to herself to escape.&lt;br /&gt;
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Now its like considering her rather insecure disposition we shall never see J-Elwood again; those absolute fuckers!&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Dansk|Dansk]] 02:59, 10 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Please try and keep to clean language. For now, it is highly believed that this was a raid, considering that multiple places, including Wikifur, were attacked. It is unlikely that it is something Jessica did herself. It is because we do not know whether it was 4chan or Encyclopedia Dramatica (or perhaps some other group) that were involved that the language in the article is hesitant to say which it was as well. For now, until proof can be found one way or another, the wording in the article will stay as it is. If you wish for it to be changed, please find proof that can be used as a reference. &amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;silver&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Silver seren|Silver]]&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User talk:Silver seren|seren]]&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[Special:Contributions/Silver seren|C]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:22, 10 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't know about the &amp;quot;Arden the Black&amp;quot; situation, and I can't say who really carried out the attack.  I don't approve of such measures.  However I can speak to one or two things:&lt;br /&gt;
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1. &amp;quot;Jessica Colaneri&amp;quot; was the name she emailed me under, so that much is accurate. &lt;br /&gt;
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2. All paypal transactions with her were carried out under the name of Martha Guerrero Martinez, so that much is also accurate.&lt;br /&gt;
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3. The behavior described at Encyclopedia Dramatica is *exactly* what happened to me.  I paid her $65 through paypal, got absolutely nothing, not even a sketch, and only got a refund two years later when I suggested opening a thread about it on livejournal/artits_beware.  That was entirely accurate, and I'm not the only person who has been taken.&lt;br /&gt;
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And for those of you calm, rational, and interested enough to POLITELY ask for it, I can and will provide proof.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Seeing as how I don't believe in ED's crap one bit, yes I'd like some proof. [[User:Dedodede|Dedodede]] 03:35, 10 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:It would probably be best to wait to deal with such information until after all of this has blown over, since the situation is pretty volatile right now. If you give it a few days, things should be calm enough that we can look toward putting in information regarding the proof you have. Though I encourage you to give links, screenshots, whatever you like on this talk page, so we can discuss it and work out what changes we will end up making to the article. &amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;silver&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Silver seren|Silver]]&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User talk:Silver seren|seren]]&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[Special:Contributions/Silver seren|C]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:37, 10 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Connection to Arden the Black==&lt;br /&gt;
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While there doesn't seem to be reference to &amp;quot;Arden the Black&amp;quot; outside of 4chan/ED, there is reference to Arden/&amp;quot;Arturo Juarez&amp;quot;... http://fchan.us/f/res/243.html#896 That's the first reference to Arden in that thread. Look through that and you'll find people who have archived Arturo's work along with some people who noticed the similarities with JE's work. I don't know where the &amp;quot;the Black&amp;quot; suffix comes from - I'm still doing some digging. --[[User:Rynl|Rynl]] 05:58, 10 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:So, I decided to track down &amp;quot;Jessica Elwood&amp;quot; accounts. Found this one: http://www.jabarchives.com/tjaforum/member.php?u=5740 Probably the real deal. Check contact info; lists &amp;quot;Jessica_colaneri@hotmail.com&amp;quot; for MSN and &amp;quot;jesscolaneri&amp;quot; for Yahoo. With only 3 posts in that account, there's not much to go by, HOWEVER, there's this thread: http://www.jabarchives.com/tjaforum/showthread.php?t=710&amp;amp;page=3 Unfortunately the artwork image is dead - i guess due to the age. The forum is in reverse chronological order, so #1 is on the bottom. Of interest here is that the post says &amp;quot;This time I used a couple tips ''Arden'' gave me, to give lights to the hair.&amp;quot; This is the first I've seen of there being an actual link between JE and the fabled Arden --[[User:Rynl|Rynl]] 07:07, 10 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::You can find references to &amp;quot;Arden the Black&amp;quot; on the Playmouse website. Do a search, and you'll see several images by him. I also know that Arden used to post on the VCL with the name &amp;quot;Arturo Juarez&amp;quot;, and he'd also post some of the same images to the Yahoo group/web site under &amp;quot;Arden the Black&amp;quot;. Hope that helps! [[User:Tremaine|Temaine da Hedgefox!]] 09:59, 10 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::While it is often a joke to say &amp;quot;It's not on Google, therefore it doesn't exist&amp;quot; - this is just one of those moments that prove you can't pull that defence. Unfortunately, searching through for the right Yahoo group is virtually impossible (there's thousands of furry groups), so I won't be touching that any time soon. --[[User:Rynl|Rynl]] 19:03, 10 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Glad to help. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Dedoded - you may believe what you like, but what was described on ED is exactly what happened to me.&lt;br /&gt;
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Silverseren - That's fine.  Do you want me to post the screenshots somewhere specific, or send them to you directly?  And are screenshots sufficient, or do you want me to forward copies of the actual correspondence?&lt;br /&gt;
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:It depends on what the screenshots are of, really. But, feel free to put them here on this talk page. As links, of course. That way others will be able to look at them as well. And remember that you can sign your name by adding four tildes (&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;~~~~&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;) after your comments. &amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;silver&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Silver seren|Silver]]&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User talk:Silver seren|seren]]&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[Special:Contributions/Silver seren|C]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 04:11, 10 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Found some links:&lt;br /&gt;
http://community.livejournal.com/artists_beware/308198.html http://community.livejournal.com/artists_beware/344270.html&lt;br /&gt;
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And after reading some other posts -- well, at least she's not the worst artist in there. [[User:Dedodede|Dedodede]] 04:38, 10 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, at least she does give refunds in the end, so I wouldn't call it plain &amp;quot;scamming&amp;quot; as ED did. [[User:Dedodede|Dedodede]] 05:09, 10 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Photo account==&lt;br /&gt;
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The photo account wasn't hacked by whoever/whatever. That was ''deactivated'' by herself/himself/whatever - prior to the apology post regarding her using her &amp;quot;friend&amp;quot; for the photos. Just thought I'd share that. --[[User:Rynl|Rynl]] 05:38, 10 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:So...she had a separate account for photos or do you mean just her account in general? &amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;silver&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Silver seren|Silver]]&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User talk:Silver seren|seren]]&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[Special:Contributions/Silver seren|C]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 05:50, 10 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::The Jelwoodphoto account in the External Links. It's listed as being a target for hacking. It wasn't. That was taking down a couple days ago and then she posted the Apology journal post on her main art account. --[[User:Rynl|Rynl]] 05:52, 10 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Except the photo of the apology on ED is of the same day she was hacked.  We have no idea how long her DA accounts were compromised before they decided to try and ruin her DA presence, whichever /b/tard script kiddie did this could have easily waited a day or two before doing the troll thing, posting a fake apology to match up with the ongoing troll meme.  [[User:KiTA|KiTA]] 14:07, 10 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== ALLEGED July 2010 hacking ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There is no independent verification that the account was hacked. It is possible that it was an actual hack, or it is possible that it was a stunt by the account owner. [[User:Ross Boxfox|Ross Boxfox]] 16:26, 10 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:However, it is commonly accepted that it was a hacking, so that's what we're going with for now, until other evidence can be found to prove otherwise. In my personal opinion, if she did it herself, then she wouldn't have thought to also attack Wikifur at the same time repeatedly. That seems like something 4chan would do (and are still doing occasionally), so that raises the likelihood of it being a hack. &amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;silver&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Silver seren|Silver]]&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User talk:Silver seren|seren]]&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[Special:Contributions/Silver seren|C]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:28, 10 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:: If a hacker posted the apology journal, why would they block and delete everyone who pointed out that Camerella - the girl whose pics Jess used without permission - said she had no knowledge of the whole thing? The 'apology' claims they worked on the idea together but Camerella says she just posed for some pictures and fansigns a few months ago and that was all. [[Special:Contributions/74.141.212.86|74.141.212.86]] 18:44, 10 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Dude. It's commonly accepted that this is an attempt to welsh on all the commissions owed. No one thinks this was real.[[Special:Contributions/74.99.93.180|74.99.93.180]] 22:20, 10 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Go back to where you came from. First of all, if she wanted to disappear, she would have hit ALL her accounts. FurAffinity was not hacked. Forgetting one of her commonly updated sites doesn't seem likely. Second, the hackers revealed her full real name (even if it wasn't well hidden). That is a classic 4chan move and NOT something that someone who wishes to disappear would do. Your &amp;quot;theory&amp;quot; just doesn't pan out. [[Special:Contributions/69.250.191.52|69.250.191.52]] 23:10, 10 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== ED's take on the situation == &lt;br /&gt;
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They have seemed to drummed up a large amount of evidence against Elwood. There are plenty of rips and such and evidence that the photos she posted were not even of a friend of hers. It might be worth taking a look.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>//en.wikifur.com/wiki/Jessica_Elwood</id>
		<title>Jessica Elwood</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jimbob: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''Jessica Elwood''' is an [[artist]] who lives in California, U.S.A. She uses [[anime]] style art and colors in her artwork, and originally a style resembling ''[[Sonic the Hedgehog]]''.&lt;br /&gt;
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Jessica is a [[role-play]] writer, playing a [[feline]]/[[Squirrel (species)|squirrel]]/[[vixen]] mix [[fursona]] also named Jessica.  Her fursona has been a main character in stories written by [[The Muse of Caprice and Whimsy]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==July 2010 hacking==&lt;br /&gt;
On July 9th, at or around 3 PM EST, hackers from 4chan's trolling board, &amp;quot;/b/&amp;quot; and/or it's sister site, Encyclopedia Dramatica, found a way to get Elwood's password for DeviantArt.  They proceeded to post guro images of self mutilation, retarded &amp;quot;meme&amp;quot; in jokes, then deleted all her uploaded images, changed her DA status to &amp;quot;Dirty Beaner&amp;quot;, locked her password and then got her banned from the site. This appeared to be in response for posting pictures claiming them to be of her on her normal deviantart account and picture account, only to later tell people she had been posting pictures that were not of her at all.&lt;br /&gt;
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At the same time, a DA troll began posting accusations that Jessica Elwood is really &amp;quot;Arden the Black&amp;quot; on every deviation and post he could find in relation to her.  ([[Arden the Black]] was an artist that used to post images to the former [[Playmouse]] Yahoo group, and whose artwork can still be found on the Playmouse web site via the search feature. He also used to post on the [[VCL]] with the name Arturo Juarez, but has deleted his directory long ago.) The DA troll also repeatedly gave out the name &amp;quot;Jessica Jazmin Colaneri&amp;quot; in an attempt to further a racist attack against Ms. Elwood.  Again, this name has only a few results on Google, all related to 4chan and ED's attempts to troll or pirate Jessica Elwood's works.&lt;br /&gt;
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Jessica's [[Fur Affinity]] page is still online and untouched.&lt;br /&gt;
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== External links ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://jessicaelwood.deviantart.com/ Jessica Elwood] on [[deviantART]] (Offline as of July 9th, due to a hack.)&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://jelwoodphoto.deviantart.com/ Jessica Elwood's Photogrpahy] on [[deviantART]] (Offline as of July 9th, due to a hack.)&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.furaffinity.net/user/jessicaelwood/ Jessica Elwood] on [[Fur Affinity]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:People]][[Category:Artists]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Squirrel-hybrid characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Fox-hybrid characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:California]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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