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		<id>//en.wikifur.com/wiki/News_talk:Further_Confusion_2008_breaks_fursuit_parade_record</id>
		<title>News talk:Further Confusion 2008 breaks fursuit parade record</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;IDontHaveAFursona: /* Guinness, Boys */ Response to &amp;quot;Records News&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Should the news article be renamed to something along the lines of &amp;quot;Further Confusion 2008 Concludes, breaks fursuit parade record&amp;quot;, or even go as far as not keep the record breaking out of the title entirely? There's enough information in the article about FC '08 itself, and doesn't center around ''just'' the broken record. [[User:TBG|TBG]] 01:24, 9 February 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:The issue is that the article was originally started because of that record, and to begin with just had that information. It was expanded later with further information. Ideally the title might have been changed; however, it was not. We typically would not rename a title more than a day or so after its publication. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:46, 3 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Parade count==&lt;br /&gt;
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Strangely, on-site, FC staffers claimed only 364, the first 12 of whom were just people holding a dragon puppet and not actually fursuiters at all, and thus should not be counted.  Was the number really only 352?&lt;br /&gt;
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Watching the two videos that seem to be completely continuous footage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPHTM-Ggx3E and  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh4SpG_2lvU , I count only 354 suits, keeping the following notes:&lt;br /&gt;
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52 = green roo64 = croc 71 = fat tauren 103 = large white/black thing before blue &lt;br /&gt;
128 = white/grey husky red shorts &lt;br /&gt;
148 = blue arm/ear thing in chinese hat &lt;br /&gt;
163 = kiv &lt;br /&gt;
186 = last of CATS&lt;br /&gt;
167 red fox after CATS&lt;br /&gt;
170 red shirt&lt;br /&gt;
178 last cetacean &lt;br /&gt;
180 = jager? &lt;br /&gt;
188 = iago?&lt;br /&gt;
192 = dog in wagon&lt;br /&gt;
200 = floppy white rabbit in blue dress&lt;br /&gt;
215 = purple skunk in red dress &lt;br /&gt;
219 = dex &lt;br /&gt;
222 = box head guy (come on, that's not even a fursuit) &lt;br /&gt;
231 = dusty&lt;br /&gt;
242 = heavy panda in red kimono&lt;br /&gt;
255 = red/black panda&lt;br /&gt;
269 = roxicat&lt;br /&gt;
273 = blue coon&lt;br /&gt;
275 = sinatra&lt;br /&gt;
292 = dark thing in blue/white pimp robe&lt;br /&gt;
307 = tall cyan thing with blue spots &lt;br /&gt;
320 = heavy thing with white chest blue arms/legs dark blue spots&lt;br /&gt;
336 = reindeer, &lt;br /&gt;
337 = girl pushing panda on floor&lt;br /&gt;
354 = orange thing at the end!&lt;br /&gt;
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This isn't counting the 14(?) people drumming and holding the dragon (they're not in fursuit either). &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:67.165.236.56|67.165.236.56]] ([[User talk:67.165.236.56|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/67.165.236.56|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;!-- [Template:Unsigned] --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:The official count was 387, from [http://community.livejournal.com/furcon/293669.html this post]. I have asked [[Frysco]] if he could explain how that official count was derived, and why it appears to differ from the video record - he's told me he will forward it to the people who did the count. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:46, 3 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Has there been any update on this?  If the number is indeed 354, then it would basically invalidate this entire article.  I think we need to resolve this one way or another soon.  --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 13:29, 10 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Nobody has contacted me about it.&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; Think we need to drop a note on the article informing readers that there is a question over the figure? --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:23, 10 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: I think that pending a response from FC, that would be a good idea.  References in the form of YouTube videos were cited here, which I would imagine is a pretty good source.  --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 14:30, 10 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Frysco just prodded me about this. Apparently, he ''did'' respond in full later on 3 March. Unfortunately, it looks like Hotmail immediately junk-filed it (I get a lot of spam, so the settings are pretty high), and I didn't catch it in my normal review. My bad! I'd switch to Gmail, but it's done the same with Giza's mail . . . and though I don't use it much, it gets even more spam.&lt;br /&gt;
:::Frysco states that the person doing the count was seated in the Coffee Garden and counted each costume that passed by during the course of the parade. He suggests that different numbers could however have been recorded at different points in the parade route, because people can join and leave the parade at any time. One example that he gave was that that several fursuiters do not go through the [[dealer's room]], either through lack of desire to or because it would be impractical given the size of their costumes (from my own experience, I would agree that it can get pretty cramped in there). He also said that some drop out during the parade but re-join it for the [[photoshoot]]. According to him, the number did not include the dragon dancers.&lt;br /&gt;
:::I'm going to replace the note at the top with a footnote summarizing this issue and linking the videos. The increase is high, but in line with the rapid increase seen elsewhere (for example, [[Anthrocon 2007]] recorded 152 more than [[Anthrocon 2006]]). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:22, 14 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Again, the &amp;quot;official&amp;quot; number popularly floated around at FC itself was 364, and apparently contained both the non-fursuiter dragon people and mister silver box head, which is not an animal costume, and then later this &amp;quot;387&amp;quot; number popped up.  And yet this camera in the youtube videos is positioned near the start of the parade just a few dozen meters down the hall from the outdoor congregation point all the suiters queued out of, and is apparently the only contiguous, provable video source of record.  I would contend that if cons want to have an official number, it should probably be one based on evidence and not an anonymous &amp;quot;we promise.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:67.165.236.56|67.165.236.56]] ([[User talk:67.165.236.56|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/67.165.236.56|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;!-- [Template:Unsigned] --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:Numbers given out at the con are good for immediate news reporting and getting a feel of the right number, but I've seen them differ from the &amp;quot;final official&amp;quot; values before. A random staff member going &amp;quot;I heard it was 364&amp;quot; does not count for much, especially when they probably got it from people who were hanging around at the start as well. If it was in the Furly News or otherwise published or announced as an official figure, that might be a different matter.&lt;br /&gt;
:People do sometimes join the parade late - often because they have been doing other things in the time used to prepare for the parade and could not be part of the &amp;quot;outdoor congregation&amp;quot;. Should they not be counted because they could only join half-way through? Maybe, maybe not; but as far as I know the intent has been to include all who participated. How this is done varies; some count heads passing a particular point (which might or might not be the start), other have someone walking down the parade as it occurs.&lt;br /&gt;
:I '''do''' agree that it would be better for conventions to rely on some evidence-based method for counting such things if they are perceived to be important, just as they do for the question of attendance figures. I hope anyone reading this who is responsible for such a figure consider doing so for future conventions. For WikiFur to say that the official figure is wrong, though, would require us to assert that the person who took that figure was either mistaken or lying. This is something I'm not comfortable with doing on the evidence shown. A difference of less than 10% recorded at a point later in the parade is within the bounds of credibility. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:01, 18 March 2008 &lt;br /&gt;
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Since hard evidence and multiple eye witness accounts from multiple vantage points have called this number into question, and since FC has provided no hard refutation of this evidence outside of a verbal assurance that the count is accurate, to suggest that the claim is within the bounds of credibility is doing a disservice to the readers here. At the very least, the article should have a new preface added explaining that the entire claim is disputed by multiple sources and video evidence. Without evidence presented to prove the number's accuracy, the claim never should have been made in the first place, and arguably the article never should have been written.&lt;br /&gt;
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Running a story like this calls into question the credibility of the site, as well. Hopefully that fact is not being overlooked while consideration is being given to this issue. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:63.138.15.138|63.138.15.138]] ([[User talk:63.138.15.138|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/63.138.15.138|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;!-- [Template:Unsigned] --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:So far we have one video taken from the ''start'' of the parade, and an anonymous editor who is making several other claims which they provide no evidence for. Set against that is the written claim of this year's convention chair that the count is valid as stated, and was taken at a different point in the parade route.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Here is [http://community.livejournal.com/furcon/292542.html one example] of the count at the start not being the count at other points. In one quick go through the photos in their [http://pics.livejournal.com/furry_k9/gallery/0001ds84?page=1 gallery] (I'm at work right now, will check later) I counted at least 370 costumed individuals, +1 for the fursuiter taking the photos, not including the drummers/dragon-holders or non-costumed people pushing or accompanying the characters. [http://community.livejournal.com/furcon/297258.html Another post] claims over 400 suiters, albeit not in the parade.&lt;br /&gt;
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:I notice that the number of pictures in this gallery is 386. I suspect this number is a coincidence, as the counter was described as &amp;quot;sitting in the Coffee garden&amp;quot; while taking the count, while this person was in &amp;quot;the gift shop area&amp;quot;. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:00, 19 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I was at a table just outside of the first dealer's room entrance. Here was my count moments after the parade completed: http://bigtig.livejournal.com/261897.html&lt;br /&gt;
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I guess that means that between the garden and the dealers room a group of people either stopped, or the person in the garden was counting people out of suits who were mixing in at that choke point. (Something that happened at the dealers room as well.)&lt;br /&gt;
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380 strikes me as a bit of wishful thinking. And the video evidence points to otherwise. Personally I would report it accurately. Listing both the average figures cited here as well as the official figures with a note as to how they were derived. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:38.99.81.170|38.99.81.170]] ([[User talk:38.99.81.170|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/38.99.81.170|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;!-- [Template:Unsigned] --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;quot;Average figures&amp;quot; is not accurate reporting. If you report 352 and a video records 354 and photos record 371 and FurCon claims 387, that does not mean we should report that there were 366 fursuiters in the parade. Clearly, there were at least 371 at one point, because there is photographic evidence of that. We '''could''' list the separate figures given by specific sources, optionally attempting to detail the different circumstances in which they were reported. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:21, 19 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I have added a paragraph as described above to the article. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:49, 19 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Guinness, Boys ==&lt;br /&gt;
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So, apparently this isn't going to change that AC goes in ''Guinness World Records 2009'' as having the record, am I right? This year's book has a half-truth, but will next year's have this half-truth to tack onto it? [[User:IDontHaveAFursona|IDontHaveAFursona]] 13:51, 21 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Considering they used the 2006 figure in the 2008 book . . . besides, do they even do that nowadays? My perception of GWR was that it's turned into a &amp;quot;records news&amp;quot; book rather than being something that has the same records year-in, year-out. [[Wikipedia:Guinness World Records|From Wikipedia]]: &amp;quot;Each edition contains a selection of the large set of records in the Guinness database, and the criteria for that choice have changed over the years.&amp;quot; --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:18, 21 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::&amp;quot;Records news?&amp;quot; I'd say you're right when it comes to editions since 1999. [[User:IDontHaveAFursona|IDontHaveAFursona]] 16:16, 26 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>IDontHaveAFursona</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>//en.wikifur.com/wiki/Solidasp</id>
		<title>Solidasp</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Solidasp"/>
				<updated>2008-03-26T14:58:47Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;IDontHaveAFursona: Put categories back in&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''Solidasp''' is an [[artist]] whose work often deals with [[werewolf|werewolves]] and similarly-styled [[anthropomorphic]] animals. Solidasp is one of the founding members of [[Brutal Beast Studios]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/solidasp/ Solidasp's Fur Affinity page]&lt;br /&gt;
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{{person-stub}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:People]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Artists]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Wolf characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Werewolf characters]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>IDontHaveAFursona</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>//en.wikifur.com/wiki/Palladin_Thug</id>
		<title>Palladin Thug</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Palladin_Thug"/>
				<updated>2008-03-26T14:56:32Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;IDontHaveAFursona: Added link&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''Palladin Thug''' is an [[artist]] from the state of New York whose work usually features particularly muscular characters. His [[fursona]] is a muscular [[sabre-tooth tiger]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/palladinthug/ Palladin Thug's Fur Affinity page]&lt;br /&gt;
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{{person-stub}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:People]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Artists]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Feline characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:New York]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>IDontHaveAFursona</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>//en.wikifur.com/wiki/Solidasp</id>
		<title>Solidasp</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Solidasp"/>
				<updated>2008-03-26T14:53:23Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;IDontHaveAFursona: Added link&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''Solidasp''' is an [[artist]] whose work often deals with [[werewolf|werewolves]] and similarly-styled [[anthropomorphic]] animals. Solidasp is one of the founding members of [[Brutal Beast Studios]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/solidasp/ Solidasp's Fur Affinity page]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{person-stub}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:People]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Artists]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>IDontHaveAFursona</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>//en.wikifur.com/wiki/Palladin_Thug</id>
		<title>Palladin Thug</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Palladin_Thug"/>
				<updated>2008-03-24T19:25:04Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;IDontHaveAFursona: Starting the page just a little bit&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''Palladin Thug''' is an artist whose work usually features particularly muscular characters. His fursona is a muscular sabre-tooth tiger.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Artists]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Tiger characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:New York]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>IDontHaveAFursona</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>//en.wikifur.com/wiki/Solidasp</id>
		<title>Solidasp</title>
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				<updated>2008-03-24T19:22:04Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;IDontHaveAFursona: Starting the page just a little bit&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''Solidasp''' is an artist whose work often deals with werewolves and similarly-styled anthropomorphic animals. One of the founding members of Brutal Beast Studios, Solidasp will also be one of the founding members of The League Of Evil.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Artists]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Wolf characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Werewolf characters]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>IDontHaveAFursona</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>//en.wikifur.com/wiki/Anthrocon_2008</id>
		<title>Anthrocon 2008</title>
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				<updated>2008-03-24T18:42:57Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;IDontHaveAFursona: I asked Camstone about FC's record, and this is my interpretation of his answer.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{Anthrocon}}&lt;br /&gt;
'''Anthrocon 2008''' will be the 12th annual [[Anthrocon]] [[furry]] [[convention]]. It will be held on the weekend of June 26th to 29th, 2008&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.anthrocon.org/node/328 Future dates. Mark your calendar!] - From Anthrocon's [http://www.anthrocon.org/forums Forums]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, at the Westin Hotel and [[wikipedia:David L. Lawrence Convention Center|David L. Lawrence Convention Center]] in [[wikipedia:Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania|Pittsburgh]], [[w:Pennsylvania|Pennsylvania]]. The event's theme will be &amp;quot;It's a Jungle Out There!&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Convention director [[Uncle Kage]] announced at the closing ceremony for [[Anthrocon 2007]] that [[wikipedia:Floyd Norman|Floyd Norman]], one of [[The Walt Disney Company]]'s first African-American animators and a major contributor to such movies as ''Sleeping Beauty'', ''101 Dalmatians'', ''[[The Jungle Book]]'' and ''[[Robin Hood]]'', would be the first &amp;quot;[[guest of honor|Guest of O.K.]]&amp;quot; (He reasoned that Norman was a very modest man, and was uncomfortable at the prospect of being a &amp;quot;guest of honor&amp;quot;.) Considering Anthrocon has had multiple GOH's for the past several years, more announcements are possible in the future.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also announced at Anthrocon 2007's closing ceremony, [[Camstone Fox]] had planned to get in contact with [[wikipedia:Guinness World Records|Guinness World Records]] to report a world record for &amp;quot;Most [[Mascot]]s in a parade&amp;quot;. He was attempting to establish the number of [[fursuit]]s in 2007's [[Fursuit Parade]], 353, as the world record, but he shelved those plans because the board of directors didn't approve after [[Further Confusion 2008]] broke that record.&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
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== External links ==&lt;br /&gt;
* {{con resources|Anthrocon|Anthrocon 2008}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Pennsylvania]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:2008 events]]&lt;br /&gt;
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{{con-stub}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>IDontHaveAFursona</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>//en.wikifur.com/wiki/News_talk:Further_Confusion_2008_breaks_fursuit_parade_record</id>
		<title>News talk:Further Confusion 2008 breaks fursuit parade record</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/News_talk:Further_Confusion_2008_breaks_fursuit_parade_record"/>
				<updated>2008-03-21T13:51:40Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;IDontHaveAFursona: /* Guinness, Boys */ new section&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Should the news article be renamed to something along the lines of &amp;quot;Further Confusion 2008 Concludes, breaks fursuit parade record&amp;quot;, or even go as far as not keep the record breaking out of the title entirely? There's enough information in the article about FC '08 itself, and doesn't center around ''just'' the broken record. [[User:TBG|TBG]] 01:24, 9 February 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:The issue is that the article was originally started because of that record, and to begin with just had that information. It was expanded later with further information. Ideally the title might have been changed; however, it was not. We typically would not rename a title more than a day or so after its publication. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:46, 3 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Parade count==&lt;br /&gt;
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Strangely, on-site, FC staffers claimed only 364, the first 12 of whom were just people holding a dragon puppet and not actually fursuiters at all, and thus should not be counted.  Was the number really only 352?&lt;br /&gt;
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Watching the two videos that seem to be completely continuous footage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPHTM-Ggx3E and  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh4SpG_2lvU , I count only 354 suits, keeping the following notes:&lt;br /&gt;
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52 = green roo64 = croc 71 = fat tauren 103 = large white/black thing before blue &lt;br /&gt;
128 = white/grey husky red shorts &lt;br /&gt;
148 = blue arm/ear thing in chinese hat &lt;br /&gt;
163 = kiv &lt;br /&gt;
186 = last of CATS&lt;br /&gt;
167 red fox after CATS&lt;br /&gt;
170 red shirt&lt;br /&gt;
178 last cetacean &lt;br /&gt;
180 = jager? &lt;br /&gt;
188 = iago?&lt;br /&gt;
192 = dog in wagon&lt;br /&gt;
200 = floppy white rabbit in blue dress&lt;br /&gt;
215 = purple skunk in red dress &lt;br /&gt;
219 = dex &lt;br /&gt;
222 = box head guy (come on, that's not even a fursuit) &lt;br /&gt;
231 = dusty&lt;br /&gt;
242 = heavy panda in red kimono&lt;br /&gt;
255 = red/black panda&lt;br /&gt;
269 = roxicat&lt;br /&gt;
273 = blue coon&lt;br /&gt;
275 = sinatra&lt;br /&gt;
292 = dark thing in blue/white pimp robe&lt;br /&gt;
307 = tall cyan thing with blue spots &lt;br /&gt;
320 = heavy thing with white chest blue arms/legs dark blue spots&lt;br /&gt;
336 = reindeer, &lt;br /&gt;
337 = girl pushing panda on floor&lt;br /&gt;
354 = orange thing at the end!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This isn't counting the 14(?) people drumming and holding the dragon (they're not in fursuit either). &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:67.165.236.56|67.165.236.56]] ([[User talk:67.165.236.56|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/67.165.236.56|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;!-- [Template:Unsigned] --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:The official count was 387, from [http://community.livejournal.com/furcon/293669.html this post]. I have asked [[Frysco]] if he could explain how that official count was derived, and why it appears to differ from the video record - he's told me he will forward it to the people who did the count. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:46, 3 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Has there been any update on this?  If the number is indeed 354, then it would basically invalidate this entire article.  I think we need to resolve this one way or another soon.  --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 13:29, 10 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Nobody has contacted me about it.&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; Think we need to drop a note on the article informing readers that there is a question over the figure? --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:23, 10 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: I think that pending a response from FC, that would be a good idea.  References in the form of YouTube videos were cited here, which I would imagine is a pretty good source.  --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 14:30, 10 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Frysco just prodded me about this. Apparently, he ''did'' respond in full later on 3 March. Unfortunately, it looks like Hotmail immediately junk-filed it (I get a lot of spam, so the settings are pretty high), and I didn't catch it in my normal review. My bad! I'd switch to Gmail, but it's done the same with Giza's mail . . . and though I don't use it much, it gets even more spam.&lt;br /&gt;
:::Frysco states that the person doing the count was seated in the Coffee Garden and counted each costume that passed by during the course of the parade. He suggests that different numbers could however have been recorded at different points in the parade route, because people can join and leave the parade at any time. One example that he gave was that that several fursuiters do not go through the [[dealer's room]], either through lack of desire to or because it would be impractical given the size of their costumes (from my own experience, I would agree that it can get pretty cramped in there). He also said that some drop out during the parade but re-join it for the [[photoshoot]]. According to him, the number did not include the dragon dancers.&lt;br /&gt;
:::I'm going to replace the note at the top with a footnote summarizing this issue and linking the videos. The increase is high, but in line with the rapid increase seen elsewhere (for example, [[Anthrocon 2007]] recorded 152 more than [[Anthrocon 2006]]). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:22, 14 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Again, the &amp;quot;official&amp;quot; number popularly floated around at FC itself was 364, and apparently contained both the non-fursuiter dragon people and mister silver box head, which is not an animal costume, and then later this &amp;quot;387&amp;quot; number popped up.  And yet this camera in the youtube videos is positioned near the start of the parade just a few dozen meters down the hall from the outdoor congregation point all the suiters queued out of, and is apparently the only contiguous, provable video source of record.  I would contend that if cons want to have an official number, it should probably be one based on evidence and not an anonymous &amp;quot;we promise.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:67.165.236.56|67.165.236.56]] ([[User talk:67.165.236.56|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/67.165.236.56|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;!-- [Template:Unsigned] --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:Numbers given out at the con are good for immediate news reporting and getting a feel of the right number, but I've seen them differ from the &amp;quot;final official&amp;quot; values before. A random staff member going &amp;quot;I heard it was 364&amp;quot; does not count for much, especially when they probably got it from people who were hanging around at the start as well. If it was in the Furly News or otherwise published or announced as an official figure, that might be a different matter.&lt;br /&gt;
:People do sometimes join the parade late - often because they have been doing other things in the time used to prepare for the parade and could not be part of the &amp;quot;outdoor congregation&amp;quot;. Should they not be counted because they could only join half-way through? Maybe, maybe not; but as far as I know the intent has been to include all who participated. How this is done varies; some count heads passing a particular point (which might or might not be the start), other have someone walking down the parade as it occurs.&lt;br /&gt;
:I '''do''' agree that it would be better for conventions to rely on some evidence-based method for counting such things if they are perceived to be important, just as they do for the question of attendance figures. I hope anyone reading this who is responsible for such a figure consider doing so for future conventions. For WikiFur to say that the official figure is wrong, though, would require us to assert that the person who took that figure was either mistaken or lying. This is something I'm not comfortable with doing on the evidence shown. A difference of less than 10% recorded at a point later in the parade is within the bounds of credibility. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:01, 18 March 2008 &lt;br /&gt;
(UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Since hard evidence and multiple eye witness accounts from multiple vantage points have called this number into question, and since FC has provided no hard refutation of this evidence outside of a verbal assurance that the count is accurate, to suggest that the claim is within the bounds of credibility is doing a disservice to the readers here. At the very least, the article should have a new preface added explaining that the entire claim is disputed by multiple sources and video evidence. Without evidence presented to prove the number's accuracy, the claim never should have been made in the first place, and arguably the article never should have been written.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Running a story like this calls into question the credibility of the site, as well. Hopefully that fact is not being overlooked while consideration is being given to this issue. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:63.138.15.138|63.138.15.138]] ([[User talk:63.138.15.138|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/63.138.15.138|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;!-- [Template:Unsigned] --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:So far we have one video taken from the ''start'' of the parade, and an anonymous editor who is making several other claims which they provide no evidence for. Set against that is the written claim of this year's convention chair that the count is valid as stated, and was taken at a different point in the parade route.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Here is [http://community.livejournal.com/furcon/292542.html one example] of the count at the start not being the count at other points. In one quick go through the photos in their [http://pics.livejournal.com/furry_k9/gallery/0001ds84?page=1 gallery] (I'm at work right now, will check later) I counted at least 370 costumed individuals, +1 for the fursuiter taking the photos, not including the drummers/dragon-holders or non-costumed people pushing or accompanying the characters. [http://community.livejournal.com/furcon/297258.html Another post] claims over 400 suiters, albeit not in the parade.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:I notice that the number of pictures in this gallery is 386. I suspect this number is a coincidence, as the counter was described as &amp;quot;sitting in the Coffee garden&amp;quot; while taking the count, while this person was in &amp;quot;the gift shop area&amp;quot;. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:00, 19 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I was at a table just outside of the first dealer's room entrance. Here was my count moments after the parade completed: http://bigtig.livejournal.com/261897.html&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I guess that means that between the garden and the dealers room a group of people either stopped, or the person in the garden was counting people out of suits who were mixing in at that choke point. (Something that happened at the dealers room as well.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
380 strikes me as a bit of wishful thinking. And the video evidence points to otherwise. Personally I would report it accurately. Listing both the average figures cited here as well as the official figures with a note as to how they were derived. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:38.99.81.170|38.99.81.170]] ([[User talk:38.99.81.170|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/38.99.81.170|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;!-- [Template:Unsigned] --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;quot;Average figures&amp;quot; is not accurate reporting. If you report 352 and a video records 354 and photos record 371 and FurCon claims 387, that does not mean we should report that there were 366 fursuiters in the parade. Clearly, there were at least 371 at one point, because there is photographic evidence of that. We '''could''' list the separate figures given by specific sources, optionally attempting to detail the different circumstances in which they were reported. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:21, 19 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I have added a paragraph as described above to the article. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:49, 19 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Guinness, Boys ==&lt;br /&gt;
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So, apparently this isn't going to change that AC goes in ''Guinness World Records 2009'' as having the record, am I right? This year's book has a half-truth, but will next year's have this half-truth to tack onto it? [[User:IDontHaveAFursona|IDontHaveAFursona]] 13:51, 21 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>IDontHaveAFursona</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>//en.wikifur.com/wiki/K%27gra_Leopard</id>
		<title>K'gra Leopard</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/K%27gra_Leopard"/>
				<updated>2008-03-21T13:47:39Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;IDontHaveAFursona: Changed Wikipedia links to WikiFur links&lt;/p&gt;
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Born in Southern California and grafted into the woods of Connecticut, this leopard serves as the Con Cat for [[FurFright]] (along with the Con Bear, [[Belic]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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She is a vegetarian and treehugger, and loves creatures of all kinds.  Her favorite colors are purple, green, black, and red.  She loves to read, watch movies, hike, swim, and go to the beach.  Her favorite genres are scifi/fantasy (for everything) and horror, and, when she likes a good laugh, a romance novel will suffice.  Her favorite bands/musicians are a-ha, Devo, Polysics, The Aquabats, Causey Way, Man Or Astro-man?, Duran Duran, The Cure, The Smiths, pretty much most all 80's alternative/New Wave (Spandau Ballet, Depeche Mode, etc.), Harvey Danger, She Wants Revenge, Suzanne Vega, Cyndi Lauper, Shonen Knife, Abba, The Village People, j-pop, Soul Coughing, Eels, and Bats for Lashes.  (NOTE: Of course this is not a definitive list.)&lt;br /&gt;
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K'gra also sews clothing and costumes through her business [http://www.nekomaneko.com Neko Ma Neko Designs].&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Contributor|Kgraleopard}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:People]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Leopard characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:California]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Connecticut]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>IDontHaveAFursona</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>//en.wikifur.com/wiki/Atalon_the_Deer</id>
		<title>Atalon the Deer</title>
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				<updated>2008-01-21T00:40:55Z</updated>
		
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'''Atalon the Deer''', a.k.a. '''Markus Kalkbrenner''', is a [[fursuit]]er in [[wikipedia:Germany|Germany]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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He runs a [[mascot]] business (Maskottchen Germany)since 2000 and is a fursuit maker too. He enjoys fursuiting and meeting up with other furries.&lt;br /&gt;
In his business he makes professional costumes for sports clubs, companies, movies and so on. He has a large mascot costume rental (50 Costumes) and does still sometimes perfromances in the suits.&lt;br /&gt;
In his spare time when he has, he builds fursuits on customers request(commissions welcome).&lt;br /&gt;
He enjoys furry conventions and appears on nearly any German and some european con. &lt;br /&gt;
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Atalons first Furry appearance was 1999.&lt;br /&gt;
First he decided a Kangaroo for his character but found out that the Deer is fit's him 100% in all attitudes.&lt;br /&gt;
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Atalons Costumes (Own Build and Used):&lt;br /&gt;
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Atalon Deer, Build 2000 - Mascot Style, Staggy like.&lt;br /&gt;
Yoyo, Build 2002 - Mascot Style, Meerkat based on a cartoon character.&lt;br /&gt;
Tasman Devil 2003 - Anthro Style, Realistic Bodytight Costume.&lt;br /&gt;
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He is organizer of Furry Con [[H-Con]] which is held autumn any year.&lt;br /&gt;
A convention that first took place in October 2005.&lt;br /&gt;
Organisator of [[AYCE]] [[furmeet|furry meet up]] in Karlsruhe, Germany, which is held very 2 months.&lt;br /&gt;
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TV and Newspaper Articles were Atalon was on.&lt;br /&gt;
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- Local Newspaper&lt;br /&gt;
- TV Kabel 1 - Maskottchen Germany Business&lt;br /&gt;
- ARD (German Government Channel) Furry Report&lt;br /&gt;
- Radio Station SWR3 and Big FM&lt;br /&gt;
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Personal Information:&lt;br /&gt;
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Gender: Male&lt;br /&gt;
Family Status: In partnership with drcroc and son David (Drachenfaust)&lt;br /&gt;
Born: 22'nd December 1972 &lt;br /&gt;
City: Bruchsal, Germany&lt;br /&gt;
Current Living Place: Karlsruhe, Germany&lt;br /&gt;
Family Origin: &lt;br /&gt;
Father side Grandma and Grandpa German, State Baden&lt;br /&gt;
Mother side Grandma, Bavarian and Grandpa USA, Rhode Island&lt;br /&gt;
Mother, Bavarian&lt;br /&gt;
Father, State Baden&lt;br /&gt;
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School &amp;amp; University Life:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
- 1979-1984 Primary School&lt;br /&gt;
- 1984-1988 Secondary School &lt;br /&gt;
- 1988-1992 Apprenticeship - Electronic engineer - German Telecom&lt;br /&gt;
- 1992-1993 O-Level - Trade School Mechanical&lt;br /&gt;
- 1996-1997 A-Level - Gymnasium Biology &lt;br /&gt;
- 1997-1998 A+-Level - Advanced Technical School&lt;br /&gt;
- 1998-2001 Dipl. Ing. Cartography&lt;br /&gt;
- 1999 Exchange Studies University of Sydney, Australia&lt;br /&gt;
- 2001-2003 B.Sc. Geoinformatics, Technical University Karlsruhe&lt;br /&gt;
- 2003-2005 M.Sc. Geomatics, Technical University Karlsruhe (not finished).&lt;br /&gt;
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Working Life:&lt;br /&gt;
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1988 Building Place - Junior Builder&lt;br /&gt;
1991 Electronic Worker&lt;br /&gt;
1992 Post Parcel Driver, PA-Mixer for various Bands, Electrian&lt;br /&gt;
1993 Mechanical Car Fitter&lt;br /&gt;
1994 Builder, Electrician various Jobs.&lt;br /&gt;
1995 Trade Fair Builder for BMW, Truck, Bus and Cap Driver, Electrician, PA-Mixer&lt;br /&gt;
1996 Electrician, Truck Driver&lt;br /&gt;
1997 Electronic Device Fitter, Truck &amp;amp; Cap Driver and others.&lt;br /&gt;
1998 Network Administrator, Programmer&lt;br /&gt;
1999 Network Administrator, Cartographer, Mascot Performer, Own Mascot Business&lt;br /&gt;
2000 Network Administrator, Cartographer, Mascot Performer, Own Mascot Business&lt;br /&gt;
2001-2008 Own Mascot Business&lt;br /&gt;
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Hobbies:&lt;br /&gt;
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Fursuit and Mascot Building, &lt;br /&gt;
Rebuilding Motorcycles&lt;br /&gt;
Mechanical Engineering&lt;br /&gt;
Music (E-Bass and Harp)&lt;br /&gt;
Diving, Motorcycling, Travel and have fun.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.atalon.de/ Atalon Deer's grazing site]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.anthrocreations.com/ AnthroCreations - New Site 2008]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.maskottchen-germany.de/ Maskottchen Germany]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:People]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Fursuiters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Fursuit makers]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Convention staff]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Deer characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Germany]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:1972 births]]&lt;br /&gt;
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	<entry>
		<id>//en.wikifur.com/wiki/CarolinaFurs</id>
		<title>CarolinaFurs</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/CarolinaFurs"/>
				<updated>2008-01-19T22:33:59Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;IDontHaveAFursona: Fixing link&lt;/p&gt;
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'''CarolinaFurs''' is a group for [[fur]]s from [[Wikipedia:North Carolina|North Carolina]] and [[Wikipedia:South Carolina|South Carolina]], and surrounding U.S. states.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== History ==&lt;br /&gt;
The CarolinaFurs were started as the '''CarolinaFurs Yahoo Group''' in February 25 of 2000. The group is currently moderated, and membership requires approval. They later branched out onto [[LiveJournal]] in the community [[NC Furs]] in March of 2004. The community has roughly 100 members.  &lt;br /&gt;
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In February of 2007, a '''CarolinaFurs Google Group''' was created due to several members having issues with [[Yahoo]]. There is also a now mostly-defunct website located at [http://www.CarolinaFurs.org CarolinaFurs.org].&lt;br /&gt;
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The largest contingent of members is centered in the [[Wikipedia:Raleigh, North Carolina|Raleigh]] area of North Carolina, with a second focus in western North Carolina. However, there are members from areas throughout both North and South Carolina, as well as other states.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Meets==&lt;br /&gt;
The CarolinaFurs have had numerous meets in the [[Wikipedia:Asheville, North Carolina|Asheville]], [[Wikipedia:Greensboro, North Carolina|Greensboro]], and Raleigh areas. The most current and frequent meets are now held in Asheville, NC on the second Saturday of each month. The meet includes lunch at [[Wikipedia:Cici's Pizza|Cici's Pizza]], and then bowling and hanging out.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Traditions ==&lt;br /&gt;
==== MFM caravan ====&lt;br /&gt;
Every year since 2001, on the Thursday evening before [[Mephit Furmeet]] begins, a number of furs would gather in Asheville, NC and caravan across Tennessee. The caravan, started and lead by [[Rhudi]], would leave around midnight and travel all night long to arrive in Memphis at roughly 9AM, just in time for the group to try to check into their rooms. It seems that every year, the suite is just never ready until 3PM. That doesn't really matter as the meet itself does a good job of keeping everyone occupied.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, in 2001, when the meet moved to a larger hotel, Rhudi began reserving a large suite of connected rooms. This was primarily for his friends and quickly grew to be primarily for furs from the Carolinas. However, the offer extends to any fur able to pay the low cost, due to the amount of people in the suites. In 2006 the cost, per person, for the weekend room was $27. The number of furs included in the suite vary, and that number directly controls the number of connected rooms vs the likelihood of a wall-to-wall carpet of sleeping furs.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==== CarolinaFurs Sunday Night Room Party ====&lt;br /&gt;
A tradition started by [[Kasan]] in 2006 is the [[MFM]] CarolinaFurs Tiger Haven Benefit party. For the first party, many furs pooled available cash (core funding provided by [[Macabail]]) and went to the package store (some dressed in various amounts of [[fursuit]] parts), bought as much liquor and beer as they could afford, and then advertised the party around the convention.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Since the Saturday night party was mild in comparison to some other parties and there was a lot of alcohol left over, the group decided to throw another party on Sunday night for those staying through to Monday, which is when the official party has been designated.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
After acquiring a bucket of what was dubbed &amp;quot;The Green Death&amp;quot;, [[Banrai]] posted several signs around the con simply stating 'FREE BOOZE' with the room number. The party was so large that it actually absorbed the SubLevel03 party from the suite on an adjoining floor, and resulted in many hungover furs.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thankfully some of the MFM staff were members of the group, and so things were kept mostly harmless throughout the night.&lt;br /&gt;
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The CF benefit party returned to MFM in 2007, yielding a smaller donation contribution than the previous year, but still was successful.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==External Links==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.CarolinaFurs.org CarolinaFurs.org] - CarolinaFurs official website&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://community.livejournal.com/nc_furs/profile?mode=full NC Furs] community on [[LiveJournal]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://groups.google.com/group/carolina_furs CarolinaFurs] community on Google Groups &lt;br /&gt;
* [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CarolinaFurs/ CarolinaFurs] community on [[Yahoo! Groups]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Mailing lists]][[Category:Social groups]][[Category:North Carolina]][[Category:South Carolina]][[Category:2000 births]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>IDontHaveAFursona</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>//en.wikifur.com/wiki/Talk:Findra</id>
		<title>Talk:Findra</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;IDontHaveAFursona: New page: ===&amp;quot;They?&amp;quot;===  The gender of this one is not specified. Hopefully this can be corrected. --~~~~&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;===&amp;quot;They?&amp;quot;===&lt;br /&gt;
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The gender of this one is not specified. Hopefully this can be corrected. --[[User:IDontHaveAFursona|IDontHaveAFursona]] 12:22, 4 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>IDontHaveAFursona</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>//en.wikifur.com/wiki/News_talk:Fur_Affinity_access_disrupted_amid_owner_dispute</id>
		<title>News talk:Fur Affinity access disrupted amid owner dispute</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/News_talk:Fur_Affinity_access_disrupted_amid_owner_dispute"/>
				<updated>2007-07-30T12:06:09Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;IDontHaveAFursona: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Potential Sources==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://preyfar.livejournal.com/667354.html Preyfar's original lj post] - Friends only (anyone have access?)&lt;br /&gt;
**Text quoted here - [http://www.furaffinityforums.net/showthread.php?tid=10949 fur affinity forums]&lt;br /&gt;
==Alternate FA access methods==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://userpages.umbc.edu/~wedo1/stuff/tempfafix.cmd hosts fix] from [http://www.furaffinityforums.net/showthread.php?tid=10949&amp;amp;pid=184403#pid184403 forum post&lt;br /&gt;
*FurAffinity functions well with only it's ip address linked to, should stay up as unrelated to domain name issues.&lt;br /&gt;
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I'd like to point out this has all been resolved. We've kissed, made up. All is good again in the world. FA is still awesome and will not eat baby kittens.--[[User:Preyfar|Preyfar]] 03:02, 26 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Back up==&lt;br /&gt;
So, should the site getting back up be a separate story? Nah, that doesn't have enough material. --[[User:IDontHaveAFursona|IDontHaveAFursona]] 12:06, 30 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>IDontHaveAFursona</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>//en.wikifur.com/wiki/Talk:The_InflatioNation</id>
		<title>Talk:The InflatioNation</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Talk:The_InflatioNation"/>
				<updated>2007-07-30T11:51:32Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;IDontHaveAFursona: Opening, on categories&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;===Category===&lt;br /&gt;
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This site shouldn't be among the disestablishments of 2007. It's still there. --[[User:IDontHaveAFursona|IDontHaveAFursona]] 11:51, 30 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>IDontHaveAFursona</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>//en.wikifur.com/wiki/Hux</id>
		<title>Hux</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Hux"/>
				<updated>2007-07-26T23:02:58Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;IDontHaveAFursona: It's dalmatian, with no o's&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''Hux''' is a [[furry]] local to [[Wikipedia:Atlanta, Georgia|Atlanta, Georgia]].  He graduated from [[Wikipedia:Georgia Institute of Technology|Georgia Tech]] with a degree in [[Wikipedia:Computer science|computer science]] and works as a [[Wikipedia:Software engineering|software engineer]]. His [[fursona]] has been a [[Wikipedia:Koala|koala]] since 2002, though in 2005 he took on the additional fursona of a [[dalmatian]] and generally switches between the two as appropriate to his mood.  His mate is [[IC Wolf]], whom he has been with since the beginning of 2006.&lt;br /&gt;
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Hux has attended [[Anthrocon]], [[Mephit Furmeet]], and [[Furry Weekend Atlanta]]. After attending [[Furry Weekend Atlanta 2006]], he joined the staff as the Convention Secretary.  In early 2007, he also filled the role of Director of [[Programming]].&lt;br /&gt;
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In his spare time, he enjoys role playing, particularly  the [[Wikipedia:Living Arcanis|Living Arcanis]] campaign of [[Wikipedia:Dungeons &amp;amp; Dragons|Dungeons &amp;amp; Dragons]].  He also enjoys [[Wikipedia:poker|poker]] and [[Wikipedia:photography|photography]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==External link==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://hux.livejournal.com/profile Hux' Journal] on [[LiveJournal]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Koala characters]][[Category:Dalmatian characters]][[Category:Georgia]][[Category:Furry Weekend Atlanta staff]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>IDontHaveAFursona</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>//en.wikifur.com/wiki/Kat_the_Foxtaur</id>
		<title>Kat the Foxtaur</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Kat_the_Foxtaur"/>
				<updated>2007-07-13T16:24:05Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;IDontHaveAFursona: More about the picture&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{Cleanup}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:KatsukiLennox.png|right|thumb|Katsuki Adam Lennox, by Kat. The version of his fursona shown here was first introduced in mid-April 2006 and changed in mid-February 2007.]]&lt;br /&gt;
'''Katsuki Adam Lennox''', known to his friends as &amp;quot;Kat&amp;quot;, was born 14 June, 3224, and resides in Emerald Town, [[Wikipedia:Mobius (Sonic the Hedgehog)|Mobius]]. He is part of the [[deviantART]], [[Storm-Artists.net]], and [[Fur Affinity]] communities. He also has accounts on [[SheezyArt]] and [[Fanart-Central]], but rarely uses these.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Fursona ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Kat is a chubby sky-blue [[arctic fox]] with two tails. He's 5'8&amp;quot; tall and is heavy set, weighing around 160kg (353 lbs). Kat is part [[wolf]] and part [[cat]] (about 1/8 each). He is 26 years old.&lt;br /&gt;
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Kat has long, dark blue headfur, with purple tips. He generally lets it down, with its length reaching his tail, but sometimes he wears it in a ponytail, and dyes the tip white, mimicking a fox tail. The front of his headfur features several fur tufts with purple tips. He has purple-tipped ears, the bottom of which are blue like his fur. He wears a white T-shirt with a red jacket, but can sometimes be seen in just a red shirt.&lt;br /&gt;
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Kat wears dark blue pants with a brown belt and gold buckle, a navy blue watch on his right wrist, and a red-on-black sweatband on his left. He generally doesn't wear shoes, though he'll wear navy blue sandals if necessary. All of his paws feature retractible claws, which is one of his cat-like traits.&lt;br /&gt;
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Kat is currently employed as a local police officer.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Origin ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Kat's player used to [[roleplay]] online as [[Tails]]. After a while, he wanted to be a little more original, and after meeting his girlfriend, a blue fox, he decided to roleplay as a blue version of Tails. Eventually he started adding features like goggles/glasses, headfur, clothing, etc, until he came to look as he does today. However, he still went by Miles Shippo Prower (he added the 'Shippo' part to distinguish him from Sega's Tails). However, each of these changes were spread out over time, so he never ended up changing his fursona's name.&lt;br /&gt;
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On 24 July, 2006, Kat decided to rename his fursona to Katsuki Adam Lennox, thus officially and finally separating him from his Sega counterpart. He got his first name from his hedgehog character, whom he named Katsuki the Hedgehog in mid January 2006. Since he rarely draws this character, he has yet to be given a new name. His last name, Lennox, was chosen for two reasons: First, because one of his real-life friends has this same last name, and second, because it's a Scottish surname, and he is of Scottish descent.&lt;br /&gt;
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In February of 2007, Katsuki's appearance changed again. The ponytail was dispatched in favor of letting the headfur hang out, the spectacles exchanged for bifocals, the face rounded and given visible fangs, the neck widened, and the body fattened up, among other things.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Family ===&lt;br /&gt;
Mates with Jon Lupus.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Personality ===&lt;br /&gt;
Kat is considered by many to be a gentle, kind, and loving fox. He is pretty open about himself, and isn't afraid to tell others how he's feeling. He loves to eat and sleep, as well as chat with his friends.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Persona ==&lt;br /&gt;
Kat's player was born 14 June, 1988, and resides in [[Wikipedia:Hopkinton, MA|Hopkinton]], [[Wikipedia:Massachusetts|Massachusetts]], [[Wikipedia:USA|USA]], just outside [[Wikipedia:Boston|Boston]]. He loves chatting, eating, sleeping, taking pictures, and drawing.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Artist ===&lt;br /&gt;
Kat started drawing around October, 2004, after being convinced to do so by his girlfriend, Amber. Currently, he does some of his sketching by hand, scans, then inks and colours the image in Flash, and finally imports it to Photoshop to finish it off; or alternatively, he draws digitally in OC. He joined the [[Fat Fur]] community in early 2005.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Trivia ==&lt;br /&gt;
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* Kat's player has a fascination with [[Wikipedia:traffic light|traffic signals]]. He enjoys studying them, identifying their manufacturers by looking at them, and taking pictures of them. He even has a small collection of two signals that were once in service.&lt;br /&gt;
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== External links ==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Contributor|Katsuki}}&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://tailsthekitsune.deviantart.com/ TailsTheKitsune] on [[deviantART]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/tailsthekitsune/ TailsTheKitsune] on [[FurAffinity]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://tails.storm-artists.net/ Tails] on [[Storm-Artists.net|Storm-Artists]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:People]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Artists]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Arctic Fox characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Wolf-hybrid characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Cat-hybrid characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Massachusetts]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:1988 births]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>IDontHaveAFursona</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>//en.wikifur.com/wiki/Skifi</id>
		<title>Skifi</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Skifi"/>
				<updated>2007-07-13T16:13:39Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;IDontHaveAFursona: Just hope the role of director isn't gonna change him too much.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{wrongtitle|title=skifi}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:SkifiFursona.jpg|right|thumb|145px|skifi.]]'''skifi''', or '''Vicente M. Patiño''' (born 1977) is an [[anthro artist]] and [[furry]] from [[Wikipedia:Madrid|Madrid, Spain]]. He started drawing in 2002 and has been a member of [[deviantART]] since March 2003, as well as being on [[VCL]] and several other galleries. He collaborates with [[Seel]], doing digital colouring of her linework. skifi's hobbies include [[Neopets]], photography, and playing video games. (He has all the Nintendo consoles.) &lt;br /&gt;
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In early July 2007, he was appointed to the position of Gallery Director for the Anthro gallery on [[deviantART]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fursona==&lt;br /&gt;
skifi's [[fursona]] is a brown anthro [[bull]], with dark brown hair and eyes, light brown muzzle and chest/belly, orange tongue and nipples, a dark spot around his right eye, and grey hooved fingers. He likes to wear a golden earring on his right ear, and to wear the Spanish National Soccer Team outfit. He has a mischievous sidekick named Curr. Curr is a blue slave [[bunny]].&lt;br /&gt;
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== External links ==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Contributor}}&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://skifi.deviantart.com/ Skifi] on [[deviantART]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://us.vclart.net/vcl/Artists/skifi Skifi] on [[VCL]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://neopets.com/randomfriend.phtml?user=skifi Skifi] on Neopets&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.skifi.net/gallery/ Skifi]on Skifi.net&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:People]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Artists]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Bovine characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Spain]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:1977 births]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>IDontHaveAFursona</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>//en.wikifur.com/wiki/There_She_Is!!</id>
		<title>There She Is!!</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/There_She_Is!!"/>
				<updated>2007-05-21T14:00:07Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;IDontHaveAFursona: About the third video&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[Image:There she is1.JPG|250px|thumb|right|She's found him...]]&lt;br /&gt;
'''There she is!!''' (known to some as '''Ddautta''') is a popular flash saga made by a team of three Korean flash artists who go by name of '''[[SamBakZa]]''', and which is based on a Korean manga they made called '''[[One Day]]'''.&lt;br /&gt;
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The first flash, '''There she is!!''' is about, Doki, a cute [[rabbit]] girl, who falls in love with Nabi, a [[cat]] boy; however, due to a social taboo on fraternizing between [[species]], and due to an apparent lack of interest, Nabi runs away from Doki, who insistently pursues him.  Nabi tries to teach Doki that cats and rabbits should not be in love with each other, but he fails to get through to her.  Ultimately, the cat boy resigns himself to being her boyfriend. The flash movie features the song ''There she is!'' by The Witches.&lt;br /&gt;
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The follow up '''There she is!! step 2. - Cake Dance''' is about Doki's birthday.  Here, Nabi (who has apparently taken quite well to his new relationship) experiences some great difficulties in getting a cake home for his girlfriend's birthday, with the subtheme of how their families (both of which are at her party) react to their 'forbidden' inter-species relationship.  This movie features the Kpop tune ''Happy Birthday To Me'' by Bulldog Mansion, and was awarded the 2005 [[Ursa Major Award]] for ''Best Anthropomorphic Dramatic Short Work or Series''.&lt;br /&gt;
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A third video in the series is currently in production. Although the web site states an August 2006 release date, the video has not yet been released as of May 21, 2007.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Website==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.sambakza.net/ SamBakZa's website]&lt;br /&gt;
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==There she is!! series==&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/161181 There she is!! (Newgrounds)]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/224148 There she is!! step2 - Cake Dance (Newgrounds)]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.flashplayer.com/music/theresheis.html There she is!! (FlashPlayer)]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.flashplayer.com/music/theresheis2.html There she is!! step2 - Cake Dance (FlashPlayer)]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Animation]][[Category:Ursa Major Award winners]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>IDontHaveAFursona</name></author>	</entry>

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