https://en.wikifur.com/w/api.php?action=feedcontributions&feedformat=atom&user=Graafen+Blackpaw 2026-10-11T12:22:32Z User contributions MediaWiki 1.23.16 //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Cassandra_Gunn 2009-04-05T22:52:44Z

<p>Graafen Blackpaw: UV is no longer a member of staff for RBW and ARF.</p> <hr /> <div>{{cleanup}}<br /> [[Image:Wikiuvbadge.jpg|thumb|right|Badge of Ultraviolet as drawn by Cassandra Gunn, her creator]]<br /> '''Cassandra Gunn''' is creator of the character [[Ultraviolet]] (a name she also goes by as an [[artist]] alias) and the [[Ukimori]] species. She is probably best known for her personal character and her m/m and crossdressing, gender-bending, or [[androgynous]] art.<br /> <br /> Cassandra currently lives in [[wikipedia:London|London, England]] and has spent most of her working life in freelance illustration and tattoo design. She has been drawing [[anthropomorphic]] characters since she can remember, but first began to make her way into the online world of [[furry]] in late 2000. Before then most of her art was based on dark or Gothic fairy tales.<br /> <br /> As of January 2008, Cassandra dedicates her time to creating a PC-based RPG as well as doing work for The Dark Gemini Project.<br /> <br /> '''Ultraviolet''' is a [[character]] created by Cassandra Gunn back in 1998, and is also the artist's alias.<br /> Originally the character was a [[cat]] (Russian Blue), with fuchsia pink hair and a black tail, accompanied by a crystal broom and unicorn-horned raven. In 2000 Ultraviolet was redesigned. Sorceress and sex-vamp, she became a [[Ukimori]], a heraldic [[unicorn]] and flying fox ([[bat]]) [[hybrid]]. Cassandra chose the combination because she wanted UV to be something of a contradiction, to mix something that is often misunderstood and associated with darkness, with something thought to be a representation of purity and associated with light.<br /> <br /> ==Cassandra Gunn==<br /> Cassandra Gunn is creator of the character Ultraviolet (a name she also goes by as an artist alias) and the Ukimori species. She is probably best known for her personal character and her m/m and crossdressing, gender-bending, or androgynous art.<br /> <br /> She currently lives in London, England and has spent most of her working life in freelance illustration and tattoo design. She has been drawing anthropomorphic characters since she can remember, but first began to make her way into the online world of furry in late 2000. Before then most of her art was based on dark or Gothic fairy tales.<br /> <br /> ==Current community involvement==<br /> <br /> She was a [[Guest of Honor|guest of honour]] at [[RBW 2007]].<br /> <br /> She is also creating a PC-based RPG as well as doing work for The Dark Gemini Project.<br /> <br /> ==Current character details==<br /> [[Image:WikiUVHopeSpringsEternal.jpg|thumb|right|Older image of Ultraviolet bringing life back to parched earth]]<br /> Ultraviolet is characterized as having luminous yellow-green eyes and silvery-grey fur. Her facial characteristics are very much like that of a [[bat|flying-fox]]. Her ears are black and fuchsia on the inside and she has two piercings in each ear, a lip spike (labret piercing) and her nose is pink. Her strongest characteristics are her long spiraling, iridescent unicorn horn, massive black wings (with fuchsia flesh on the inside membrane), cloven hooves with black fur tufts around them, and black tail ending in a long purple tuft. Her hands are best describes as claws, though they are actually hooves, starting at the last joint. There is noticeable webbing between her fingers.<br /> <br /> ==Character tastes and personality==<br /> [[Image:Twilightdance1.jpg|right|thumb|Graphite image of UV.]]<br /> She's most often associated with gothic, rave, and cyber culture. Primarily she wears black and white stripy tights, goggles, corsets, and long faux fur coats.<br /> <br /> Her personality is very bright, flirty, dominant and playful. Some think she's a bit of a saucy vixen. She would grin agreeably.<br /> <br /> She is not at all shy about getting what she wants and won't let anything get in her way and can be a bit of a diva at times. But at the end of the day she is true to those she loves and would fiercely protect them. She also feels adamantly in tune with nature and uses her innate magical abilities mostly for helping heal, care for, and protect Shi'Imora.<br /> <br /> She also adamantly loves fruit, honey and has a desperate weak spot for pretty-boys.<br /> <br /> ==Character background and story==<br /> Created by the [[human]] Dr. Hira, Ultraviolet was the first successful [[bat]] and heraldic [[unicorn]] hybrid. Her real given name was [[Asha Hira]], named after the good doctor, but it was her project name, Ultraviolet, that stuck (called so, because the doctor found through various experiments that Asha had UV reactive eyes and markings on her horn, fur, in her ears and wing membrane).<br /> <br /> Living on the planet of Shi'Imora, and growing up in the Solarian elf village Mikobi-Rhin, it was there with the elves that she grew and learned along side her childhood friend, Rikaru. Through the Solarians, she learned about magic, love and the world around her. She grew up to witness the war against man, when much of Shi' Imora and its denizens rose up against the shallow, destructive nature of humanity and destroyed them. Afterwards she took to living primarily in solitude, away from the place where her creator was murdered, in a ruined [[human]] city cathedral.<br /> <br /> More images of the character can be found at various websites, such as [[VCL]], [[Fur Affinity]], [[Yerf]] and others.<br /> <br /> == Shi'Imora ==<br /> <br /> The world created by [[Cassandra Gunn]], encompassing all her stories, creatures, and ideas.<br /> <br /> Shi' Imora exists in our own solar system on another dimension and is, in fact, the size of Jupiter. This 'planet' is actually a thinking and feeling being who activley creates and destroys life on and within her.<br /> <br /> 'She' is referred to as a female, as when she communicates with those who live on Shi'Imora, the voice they hear is feminine. Most Shi'Imoran's of any spiritual nature have some form of understanding of her and how to communicate with her. Though she often keeps this very limited. She even has a pulse that can be felt and heard if the denizens take a moment to listen.<br /> <br /> Her nature is impartial and though she is intelligent and feeds off emotions, she cannot express emotion.<br /> <br /> == References ==<br /> &lt;references/&gt;<br /> <br /> == External links ==<br /> {{Contributor}}<br /> *[http://www.ultravioletnet.com/ The Hidden Guardian], Ultraviolet's website<br /> *{{lj-comm|ultraviolet_art}} - The art of Ultraviolet community on [[LiveJournal]]<br /> *[http://ultraviolet.artspots.com/ Ultraviolet] on [[ArtSpots]]<br /> *[http://ultraviolet.yiffit.com/ Ultraviolet] on [[Yiffit]]<br /> * [http://ultravioletbat.deviantart.com/ Ultraviolet's Gallery] at [[deviantART]]<br /> <br /> [[Category:People]]<br /> [[Category:Artists]]<br /> [[Category:Bat-hybrid characters]]<br /> [[Category:Unicorn-hybrid characters]]<br /> [[Category:RBW guests of honour]]<br /> [[Category:England]]</div>

Graafen Blackpaw //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Wolfpaw 2009-04-05T22:47:30Z

<p>Graafen Blackpaw: Wolfpaw is no longer RBW staff.</p> <hr /> <div>[[Image:Wolfpaw.jpg|thumb|100px|right|Wolfpaw]]<br /> [[Image:Wp2tada.jpg|thumb|100px|left|Vincent]]<br /> '''Wolfpaw''' (also known as '''Ookami'''; born March 27th, 1985&lt;ref&gt;[http://wolfpawz.livejournal.com/profile Wolfpaw's profile] on [[LiveJournal]]. Retrieved December 28th, 2007.&lt;/ref&gt;) is a [[fursuiter]] who lives in [[Wikipedia:Leicester|Leicester]], England.<br /> <br /> Wolfpaw's [[fursona]] is a two-tailed [[wolf]].&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.freewebs.com/ookami_sprite/fursuiting.htm Fursuiting page] on Wolfpaw's homepages. Retrieved December 28th, 2007.&lt;/ref&gt; His fur is black except for white tips on his ears and tails, and he has purple hair. The fursuit of his fursona was built by [[White Wolf Creations]], who also made his second suit, Vincent.<br /> <br /> ==References==<br /> &lt;references/&gt;<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> * [http://www.freewebs.com/ookami_sprite/index.htm Ookami's Den] (homepage)<br /> * [http://wolfpawz.livejournal.com/ ''If Only For A Little While...''] - Wolfpaw's [[LiveJournal]]<br /> <br /> {{person-stub}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:People]]<br /> [[Category:Fursuiters]]<br /> [[Category:Wolf characters]]<br /> [[Category:England]]<br /> [[Category:1985 births]]<br /> [[Category:BritFur FM staff]]</div>

Graafen Blackpaw //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Graafen_Blackpaw 2008-03-19T15:46:22Z

<p>Graafen Blackpaw: Update to fursuits and initial details. ~~~~</p> <hr /> <div>[[Image:Graafen_thumb.jpg|right|thumb|150px|Graafen by [[Kaijima A. Frostfang]]]]<br /> <br /> '''Graafen Blackpaw''' is a [[werewolf]] and member of the Blackpaw pack. Born in 1983, he has lived in [[Wikipedia:Yorkshire|Yorkshire]] for his entire life and currently lives in [[Wikipedia:Wakefield|Wakefield]], [[Wikipedia:West Yorkshire|West Yorkshire]], [[Wikipedia:United Kingdom|United Kingdom]], working for a large IT company as a Customer Support Technician. He plans to move to [[Wikipedia:America|America]] at some point in the future but is unsure of when.<br /> <br /> Graafen has also been known as '''Thalyi E. Wolfe''' since 2000.<br /> <br /> He is the Head of Convention Operations for both [[ConFuzzled]] and [[RBW]], and has a radio show on [[BritFur FM]] airing Fridays from 9pm until midnight ([[wikipedia:Western European Time|WET]]/[[wikipedia:Western European Summer Time|WEST]]).<br /> <br /> == Fursuits ==<br /> <br /> Graafen is an avid [[fursuit|fursuiter]]. He owns four fursuits:<br /> <br /> '''Thalyi''' debuted at [[Further Confusion 2005]]. Created by [[Jax The Purple Bat]] from Graafen's online character, Thalyi is a hybrid of Wolf and domestic Cat which gives him a pronounced cleft lip and a long wolf tail.<br /> <br /> '''Boswell''' debuted at [[Further Confusion 2006]]. Created by [[Noble Wolf|Noble Arctic Wolf]], Boswell is a black and purple furred 'gothic' skunk.<br /> <br /> Graafen's werewolf fursuit debuted on Halloween 2006 and made its first convention appearance at [[Further Confusion 2007]].<br /> Created by [http://www.runningwolfpack.com Running Wolf Productions], it is a physical reflection of what he believes to be his true identity.<br /> <br /> '''Radinov''' debuted at [[Further Confusion 2008]]. Created by [[MixedCandy]], Radinov is a Russian female husky. Graafen decided to get her after seeing [[Damon Canine]]'s vixen fursuit '''Jenna'''.<br /> <br /> == External links ==<br /> {{Contributor}}<br /> * ''[http://graafen.livejournal.com/ Back to the meaning of Wolf and Man]'' - Graafen Blackpaw's [[LiveJournal]]<br /> * [http://www.werewolf-inside.com/ Werewolf-Inside] - Graafen's personal website.<br /> <br /> [[Category:People]]<br /> [[Category:Fursuiters]]<br /> [[Category:Convention staff]]<br /> [[Category:ConFuzzled staff]]<br /> [[Category:Werewolf characters]]<br /> [[Category:United Kingdom]]<br /> [[Category:1983 births]]</div>

Graafen Blackpaw //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Graafen_Blackpaw 2007-06-18T00:25:17Z

<p>Graafen Blackpaw: ToyDragon is the artist of this picture.</p> <hr /> <div>[[Image:Graafen_thumb.jpg|right|150px|Graafen Blackpaw by [[User:ToyDragon|ToyDragon]]]]<br /> <br /> '''Graafen Blackpaw''' is a [[werewolf]] and member of the Blackpaw pack. Born in 1983, he has lived in [[Wikipedia:Yorkshire|Yorkshire]] for his entire life and currently lives in [[Wikipedia:Wakefield|Wakefield]], [[Wikipedia:West Yorkshire|West Yorkshire]], [[Wikipedia:United Kingdom|United Kingdom]], working for a large IT company as a Customer Support Technician. He plans to move to [[Wikipedia:America|America]] at some point in the future but is unsure of when.<br /> <br /> Graafen has also been known as '''Thalyi E. Wolfe''' since 2000.<br /> <br /> == Fursuits ==<br /> <br /> Graafen is an avid [[fursuit]]er. He currently owns three fursuits:<br /> <br /> '''Thalyi''' debuted at [[Further Confusion 2005]]. Created by [[Jax The Purple Bat]] from Graafen's online character, Thalyi is a hybrid of Wolf and domestic Cat which gives him a pronounced cleft lip and a long wolf tail.<br /> <br /> '''Boswell''' debuted at [[Further Confusion 2006]]. Created by [[Noble A. Wolf]], Boswell is a black and purple furred 'gothic' skunk.<br /> <br /> Graafen's newest fursuit is a werewolf suit, created by [http://www.runningwolfpack.com Running Wolf Productions], and is a physical reflection of what he believes to be his true identity. It debuted on Halloween 2006 and made it's first convention appearance at [[Futher Confusion 2007]].<br /> <br /> == External links ==<br /> {{Contributor}}<br /> * ''[http://graafen.livejournal.com/ Back to the meaning of Wolf and Man]'' - Graafen Blackpaw's [[LiveJournal]]<br /> * [http://www.werewolf-inside.com/ Werewolf-Inside] - Graafen's personal website.<br /> <br /> [[Category:People]]<br /> [[Category:Fursuiters]]<br /> [[Category:United Kingdom]]<br /> [[Category:1983 births]]</div>

Graafen Blackpaw //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Graafen_Blackpaw 2007-06-17T23:34:51Z

<p>Graafen Blackpaw: </p> <hr /> <div>[[Image:Graafen_thumb.jpg|right|150px|Graafen Blackpaw by [[User:ToyDragon|ToyDragon]]]]<br /> <br /> '''Graafen Blackpaw''' is a [[werewolf]] and member of the Blackpaw pack. Born in 1983, he has lived in [[Wikipedia:Yorkshire|Yorkshire]] for his entire life and currently lives in [[Wikipedia:Wakefield|Wakefield]], [[Wikipedia:West Yorkshire|West Yorkshire]], [[Wikipedia:United Kingdom|United Kingdom]], working for a large IT company as a Customer Support Technician. He plans to move to [[Wikipedia:America|America]] at some point in the future but is unsure of when.<br /> <br /> Graafen has also been known as '''Thalyi E. Wolfe''' since 2000.<br /> <br /> == Fursuits ==<br /> <br /> Graafen is an avid [[fursuit]]er. He currently owns three fursuits:<br /> <br /> '''Thalyi''' debuted at [[Further Confusion 2005]]. Created by [[Jax The Purple Bat]] from Graafen's online character, Thalyi is a hybrid of Wolf and domestic Cat which gives him a pronounced cleft lip and a long wolf tail.<br /> <br /> '''Boswell''' debuted at [[Further Confusion 2006]]. Created by [[Noble A. Wolf]], Boswell is a black and purple furred 'gothic' skunk.<br /> <br /> Graafen's newest fursuit is a werewolf suit, created by [http://www.runningwolfpack.com Running Wolf Productions], and is a physical reflection of what he believes to be his true identity. It debuted on Halloween 2006 and made it's first convention appearance at [[Futher Confusion 2007]].<br /> <br /> {{person-stub}}<br /> <br /> == External links ==<br /> {|style=&quot;border: solid 1px #6666CC; float:right;width:23.5em;&quot;<br /> |-valign=&quot;middle&quot;<br /> ||This [[:Category:People|person]] is a [[WikiFur]] [[:Category:Wikifurries|user]]:<br /> *{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}'s [[User:{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}|user page]]<br /> *{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}'s [[User_talk:{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}|talk page]]<br /> ||[[Image:Wiki.png|80px|WikiFur User]]<br /> |}[[Category:Wikifurries]]<br /> <br /> * ''[http://graafen.livejournal.com/ Back to the meaning of Wolf and Man]'' - Graafen Blackpaw's [[LiveJournal]]<br /> * [http://www.werewolf-inside.com/ Werewolf-Inside] - Graafen's personal website.<br /> * [http://www.werewolf-inside.com/gallery/ Werewolf-Inside Gallery]<br /> <br /> [[Category:People]][[Category:Fursuiters]]<br /> [[Category:United Kingdom]]<br /> [[Category:1983 births]]</div>

Graafen Blackpaw //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Graafen_Blackpaw 2007-06-17T23:34:22Z

<p>Graafen Blackpaw: Sentance removal to correct article.</p> <hr /> <div>[[Image:Graafen_thumb.jpg|right|150px|Graafen Blackpaw by [[User:ToyDragon|ToyDragon]]]]<br /> <br /> '''Graafen Blackpaw''' is a [[werewolf]] and member of the Blackpaw pack. Born in 1983, he has lived in [[Wikipedia:Yorkshire|Yorkshire]] for his entire life and currently lives in [[Wikipedia:Wakefield|Wakefield]], [[Wikipedia:West Yorkshire|West Yorkshire]], [[Wikipedia:United Kingdom|United Kingdom]], working for a large IT company as a Customer Support Technician. He plans to move to [[Wikipedia:America|America]] at some point in the future but is unsure of when.<br /> <br /> Graafen has also been known as '''Thalyi E. Wolfe''' since 2000.<br /> <br /> == Fursuits ==<br /> <br /> Graafen is an avid [[fursuit]]er. He currently owns two fursuits:<br /> <br /> '''Thalyi''' debuted at [[Further Confusion 2005]]. Created by [[Jax The Purple Bat]] from Graafen's online character, Thalyi is a hybrid of Wolf and domestic Cat which gives him a pronounced cleft lip and a long wolf tail.<br /> <br /> '''Boswell''' debuted at [[Further Confusion 2006]]. Created by [[Noble A. Wolf]], Boswell is a black and purple furred 'gothic' skunk.<br /> <br /> Graafen's newest fursuit is a werewolf suit, created by [http://www.runningwolfpack.com Running Wolf Productions], and is a physical reflection of what he believes to be his true identity. It debuted on Halloween 2006 and made it's first convention appearance at [[Futher Confusion 2007]].<br /> <br /> {{person-stub}}<br /> <br /> == External links ==<br /> {|style=&quot;border: solid 1px #6666CC; float:right;width:23.5em;&quot;<br /> |-valign=&quot;middle&quot;<br /> ||This [[:Category:People|person]] is a [[WikiFur]] [[:Category:Wikifurries|user]]:<br /> *{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}'s [[User:{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}|user page]]<br /> *{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}'s [[User_talk:{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}|talk page]]<br /> ||[[Image:Wiki.png|80px|WikiFur User]]<br /> |}[[Category:Wikifurries]]<br /> <br /> * ''[http://graafen.livejournal.com/ Back to the meaning of Wolf and Man]'' - Graafen Blackpaw's [[LiveJournal]]<br /> * [http://www.werewolf-inside.com/ Werewolf-Inside] - Graafen's personal website.<br /> * [http://www.werewolf-inside.com/gallery/ Werewolf-Inside Gallery]<br /> <br /> [[Category:People]][[Category:Fursuiters]]<br /> [[Category:United Kingdom]]<br /> [[Category:1983 births]]</div>

Graafen Blackpaw //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Graafen 2007-06-17T23:31:35Z

<p>Graafen Blackpaw: Article for Graafen already exists. Changing this article to a Redirect.</p> <hr /> <div>#REDIRECT [[Graafen Blackpaw]]</div>

Graafen Blackpaw //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Graafen_Blackpaw 2007-05-27T02:10:32Z

<p>Graafen Blackpaw: Changed site name of external link.</p> <hr /> <div>[[Image:Graafen_thumb.jpg|right|150px|Graafen Blackpaw by [[User:ToyDragon|ToyDragon]]]]<br /> <br /> '''Graafen Blackpaw''' is a [[werewolf]] and member of the Blackpaw pack. Born in 1983, he has lived in [[Wikipedia:Yorkshire|Yorkshire]] for his entire life and currently lives in [[Wikipedia:Wakefield|Wakefield]], [[Wikipedia:West Yorkshire|West Yorkshire]], [[Wikipedia:United Kingdom|United Kingdom]], working for a large IT company as a Customer Support Technician. He plans to move to [[Wikipedia:America|America]] at some point in the future but is unsure of when.<br /> <br /> Graafen has also been known as '''Thalyi E. Wolfe''' since 2000.<br /> <br /> == Fursuits ==<br /> <br /> Graafen is an avid [[fursuit]]er. He currently owns two fursuits: ''Thalyi'' and ''Boswell''.<br /> <br /> '''Thalyi''' debuted at [[Further Confusion 2005]]. Created by [[Jax The Purple Bat]] from Graafen's online character, Thalyi is a hybrid of Wolf and domestic Cat which gives him a pronounced cleft lip and a long wolf tail.<br /> <br /> '''Boswell''' debuted at [[Further Confusion 2006]]. Created by [[Noble A. Wolf]], Boswell is a black and purple furred 'gothic' skunk.<br /> <br /> Graafen's newest fursuit is a werewolf suit, created by [http://www.runningwolfpack.com Running Wolf Productions], and is a physical reflection of what he believes to be his true identity. It debuted on Halloween 2006 and made it's first convention appearance at [[Futher Confusion 2007]].<br /> <br /> {{person-stub}}<br /> <br /> == External links ==<br /> {|style=&quot;border: solid 1px #6666CC; float:right;width:23.5em;&quot;<br /> |-valign=&quot;middle&quot;<br /> ||This [[:Category:People|person]] is a [[WikiFur]] [[:Category:Wikifurries|user]]:<br /> *{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}'s [[User:{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}|user page]]<br /> *{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}'s [[User_talk:{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}|talk page]]<br /> ||[[Image:Wiki.png|80px|WikiFur User]]<br /> |}[[Category:Wikifurries]]<br /> <br /> * ''[http://graafen.livejournal.com/ Back to the meaning of Wolf and Man]'' - Graafen Blackpaw's [[LiveJournal]]<br /> * [http://www.werewolf-inside.com/ Werewolf-Inside] - Graafen's personal website.<br /> * [http://www.werewolf-inside.com/gallery/ Werewolf-Inside Gallery]<br /> <br /> [[Category:People]][[Category:Fursuiters]]<br /> [[Category:United Kingdom]]<br /> [[Category:1983 births]]</div>

Graafen Blackpaw //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Talk:ConFuzzled 2007-04-22T17:20:08Z

<p>Graafen Blackpaw: </p> <hr /> <div>The article starts with &quot;Also nicknamed 'The convention what'll never happen'&quot;. I did a websearch and didn't find any matches for that nickname. The nickname made me think of the term &quot;self-fulfilling prophecy&quot;. What do others think of removing the &quot;nickname&quot; and adding &quot;Confuzzled is a proposed convention&quot;? --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 21:51, 18 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : Apologies if my comments above seem harsh, it is just that after years and years of disappointment that I'm just hopeful that there will finally be a UK team who will succeed in holding a furry convention. --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 22:01, 18 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I have no problem with that. In fact, do we have a &quot;Proposed conventions&quot; category for convention which have not yet happened? I think that would be much more appropriate given the number of conventions in recent memory that never happened. --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 22:25, 18 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I think that's an interesting idea, what would proposed conventions include? For example would [[Conifur Northwest 2006]] (before it was cancelled) have been listed as a proposed convention? --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 00:01, 19 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: That's a good question. I was initially thinking of conventions that have yet to have their first year. FurFest NorthWest would have fallen into that category before its cancellation. I would think that RainFurrest, which is currently scheduled but has not yet had its first year would be a good candidate for that category. --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 02:43, 19 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Cons in the UK ==<br /> <br /> This article makes no mention of conventions that have been held in the UK previously probably before many people who are in the fur scene can recall, in the early 1990's a bunch of conventions were held at Yately and Coventry, whil many people will go &quot;yeah yeah but they weren't proper conventions&quot; i'd completely disagree they were open to anyone in the world who was willing to travel and many had numbers into the 30's attending.<br /> <br /> This is not the first convention in the UK.<br /> <br /> :By that same logic furmeets are conventions too? When Blue Phoenix was living in Sheffield she often used her house essentially as a venue for the Sheffield furmeets, and organised events to do around the city. Does that make the Sheffield furmeet a convention? I wouldn't say so, it's still a furmeet.<br /> <br /> :Essentially this all falls down to what one's perception of the word &quot;Convention&quot; is. I personally think we need to clarify exactly what a constitues a convention within the furry fandom and especially what seperates it from a furmeet. [[User:Graafen Blackpaw|Graafen Blackpaw]] 17:20, 22 April 2007 (UTC)</div>

Graafen Blackpaw //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Talk:ConFuzzled 2007-04-22T17:18:25Z

<p>Graafen Blackpaw: </p> <hr /> <div>The article starts with &quot;Also nicknamed 'The convention what'll never happen'&quot;. I did a websearch and didn't find any matches for that nickname. The nickname made me think of the term &quot;self-fulfilling prophecy&quot;. What do others think of removing the &quot;nickname&quot; and adding &quot;Confuzzled is a proposed convention&quot;? --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 21:51, 18 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : Apologies if my comments above seem harsh, it is just that after years and years of disappointment that I'm just hopeful that there will finally be a UK team who will succeed in holding a furry convention. --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 22:01, 18 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I have no problem with that. In fact, do we have a &quot;Proposed conventions&quot; category for convention which have not yet happened? I think that would be much more appropriate given the number of conventions in recent memory that never happened. --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 22:25, 18 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I think that's an interesting idea, what would proposed conventions include? For example would [[Conifur Northwest 2006]] (before it was cancelled) have been listed as a proposed convention? --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 00:01, 19 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: That's a good question. I was initially thinking of conventions that have yet to have their first year. FurFest NorthWest would have fallen into that category before its cancellation. I would think that RainFurrest, which is currently scheduled but has not yet had its first year would be a good candidate for that category. --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 02:43, 19 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Cons in the UK ==<br /> <br /> This article makes no mention of conventions that have been held in the UK previously probably before many people who are in the fur scene can recall, in the early 1990's a bunch of conventions were held at Yately and Coventry, whil many people will go &quot;yeah yeah but they weren't proper conventions&quot; i'd completely disagree they were open to anyone in the world who was willing to travel and many had numbers into the 30's attending.<br /> <br /> This is not the first convention in the UK.<br /> <br /> :By that same logic furmeets are conventions too? When Blue Phoenix was living in Sheffield she often used her house essentially as a venue for the Sheffield furmeets, and organised events to do around the city. Does that make the Sheffield furmeet a convention? I wouldn't say so, it's still a furmeet.<br /> <br /> Essentially this all falls down to what one's perception of the word &quot;Convention&quot; is. I personally think we need to clarify exactly what a constitues a convention within the furry fandom and especially what seperates it from a furmeet.</div>

Graafen Blackpaw //en.wikifur.com/wiki/FurbleFox 2007-04-13T14:48:42Z

<p>Graafen Blackpaw: Removal of underscore in wiki link to Graafen Blackpaw</p> <hr /> <div>[[Image:Furble-toonyfursuit-paris.jpg|thumb|right|Furble's [[fursona]]]]'''FurbleFox''' is a [[fox]] and a [[fursuiter]] from [[Wikipedia:England|England]].<br /> <br /> == Background ==<br /> <br /> FurbleFox, Also known as Furble and CaliHusky discovered [[Furry]] (under this term) in 1999, thanks to Vulpecula (UK). <br /> Originally scouring the internet for fox pictures and fox paraphernalia, he had always had an interest in Animals, at one point wanting to be a veterinarian.<br /> He first got in touch with Vulpecula through Yahoo Messenger in 1999. <br /> <br /> He attended his first [[furmeet]], the [[NorthernFurs (UK)|NorthernFurs]] Sheffield [[furmeet]] in 2001, where he subsequently met [[Graafen Blackpaw]] and Darkhorse WinterWolf. <br /> His first [[furry convention]] was [[EuroFurence]] 9, in 2003.<br /> <br /> He is widely known because of [[fursuits]] and website administration.<br /> <br /> He is regularly seen at [[Eurofurence]] &amp; [[Further Confusion]], and other events around the world.<br /> <br /> == Character Changes ==<br /> <br /> Furble recently has developed an additional character, Cali Husky.<br /> Cali is known for his remarkable resemblance to [[Kodi_(Canada)|Kodi]] and has been said to be his brother by some furs. This is not the case, however.<br /> <br /> == Accomplishments ==<br /> <br /> He is a prevalent person in the [[NorthernFurs (UK)|NorthernFurs]] community, and has been since late 2001, as he runs the community website as well as organising the Manchester [[furmeet]].<br /> <br /> He is the chairman of [[ConFuzzled]], the UK's first furry convention and has been a member of other groups trying to arrange a UK [[furry convention]].<br /> <br /> <br /> == Fursuiting ==<br /> <br /> Furble is an avid fursuiter, performing charitable acts nationwide. He owns 2 fursuits.<br /> <br /> &quot;Furble Toony&quot; which was designed by [[Rose Quoll]] in 2005 and &quot;Cali Husky&quot;, designed by [[Kodi_(Canada)|Kodi]] in 2006.<br /> <br /> == External links ==<br /> * [http://www.northernfurs.org.uk/ NorthernFurs] - NorthernFurs (UK) Website.<br /> * [http://www.confuzzled.org.uk/ ConFuzzled] - Website for the ConFuzzled convention.<br /> * [http://www.livejournal.com/users/calihusky/ CaliHusky] on [[LiveJournal]]<br /> * [http://huskyfluff.org/ huskyfluff] - Furble's website<br /> <br /> {{Contributor}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:People]]<br /> [[Category:Fursuiters]]<br /> [[Category:Fox characters]]<br /> [[Category:England]]<br /> [[Category:1984 births]]</div>

Graafen Blackpaw //en.wikifur.com/wiki/ConFuzzled 2007-04-02T14:09:37Z

<p>Graafen Blackpaw: +external link to ConFuzzled LJ community</p> <hr /> <div>[[Image:NewConFuzzledLogo.jpg|right|220px|ConFuzzled]]<br /> '''ConFuzzled''', sometimes called the '''UK Furcon''' (and colloquially nicknamed &quot;the [[convention]] what'll never happen&quot; by UK Furs) is an event to celebrate the genre of [[anthropomorphic]]s, or [[furry fandom]]. It is the first full scale furry [[convention]] in the United Kingdom to date. <br /> <br /> == Recent announcements ==<br /> <br /> On 1st February 2007, ConFuzzled announced on their website they have confirmed a venue for June 2008 at [[wikipedia:YHA|YHA]] International, Manchester. They plan to have a [[Eurofurence]] like system with registration, accommodation and food included in one price. They also plan to allow [[convention sponsorship|sponsorship]].<br /> <br /> On 18th February 2007, ConFuzzled unveiled their new website and logo (seen at top right) and announced further details of convention events.<br /> <br /> On 20th March 2007, ConFuzzled announced that there will be an announcement regarding registration on 31st March 2007.<br /> <br /> On 31st March 2007, ConFuzzled unveiled the pricing and membership structure as well as revealing that registration will be open on 21st April 2007.<br /> <br /> == Staff ==<br /> <br /> * '''[[Anthropup]]''' - Accounts Manager<br /> * '''[[Dingotush]]''' - General Advisory<br /> * '''[[ExiledWolf]]''' - Media Relations<br /> * '''[[FurbleFox]]''' (aka CaliHusky) - Convention Chairman &amp; Events Management<br /> * '''[[Graafen Blackpaw]]''' - Convention Operations (General) Head<br /> * '''[[Leinir]]''' - Website Administrator<br /> * '''[[Lev Lion]]''' - Convention Co-Founder &amp; Stage A/V Management<br /> * '''[[Mattlion]]''' - First Aid<br /> * '''[[Nidonocu]]''' - Information &amp; Display Systems<br /> * '''[[Primal]]''' - Convention Operations Security<br /> * '''[[Shep Shepherd]]''' - Convention Operations Security<br /> * '''[[SouthPaw]]''' - Convention Co-Chairman &amp; Registration Lead<br /> * '''[[Tigz]]''' - Convention Operations (Security) Head<br /> * '''[[TigerTom]]''' - Official Photographer<br /> * '''[[Ursus Amplus]]''' - 2nd Official Photographer<br /> * '''[[Wolfie Fox]]''' - Art Room Administrator<br /> * '''[[Wolfspawn3]]''' - Server Administrator &amp; Data Integrity<br /> <br /> == Date and Location ==<br /> <br /> ConFuzzled has now confirmed dates of 20th-23rd June, 2008. It will be hosted in [[wikipedia:Manchester|Manchester]], [[wikipedia:North West England|North West England]]. <br /> <br /> == History ==<br /> <br /> Planning for ConFuzzled started in 2005, after several people from the UK Furry Community were frustrated by the lack of organization of others and decided to organize a furry convention, based upon their experience with [[Furmeet]]s. The convention has recieved help and advice from [[Chairo]], [[Cheetah]] &amp; [[Timduru]].<br /> <br /> == Pricing ==<br /> Registration costs are: £40 for Supporting, £160 for Standard and £200 for Sponsorship. <br /> <br /> == External Links ==<br /> {{WikiFurNews|UK furs plan to be ConFuzzled in 2008}}<br /> * [http://www.confuzzled.org.uk/ ConFuzzled website]<br /> * [http://www.ukfur.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=4799 ''UK furcons''] on [[UKFur.net]] forum<br /> * [http://community.livejournal.com/confuzzledlj/ ConFuzzled Community] on [[Wikipedia:LiveJournal|LiveJournal]]<br /> <br /> [[Category:Conventions]]<br /> [[Category:United Kingdom]]<br /> [[Category:2008 births]]</div>

Graafen Blackpaw //en.wikifur.com/wiki/ConFuzzled 2007-03-25T16:59:04Z

<p>Graafen Blackpaw: Addded 20th March announcement. Added 2 more staff: Dingotush and Tungro</p> <hr /> <div>[[Image:NewConFuzzledLogo.jpg|right|220px|ConFuzzled]]<br /> '''ConFuzzled''', sometimes called the '''UK Furcon''' (and colloquially nicknamed &quot;the [[convention]] what'll never happen&quot; by UK Furs) is an event proposed to celebrate the genre of [[anthropomorphic]]s, or [[furry fandom]]. It is currently in the planning stage, with hopes that it could be the first full scale furry [[convention]] in the United Kingdom.<br /> <br /> == Recent announcements ==<br /> <br /> On 1st February 2007, ConFuzzled announced on their website they have confirmed a venue for June 2008 at [[wikipedia:YHA|YHA]] International, Manchester. They plan to have a [[Eurofurence]] like system with registration, accommodation and food included in one price. They also plan to allow [[convention sponsorship|sponsorship]].<br /> <br /> On 18th February 2007, ConFuzzled unveiled their new website and logo (seen at top right) and announced further details of convention events.<br /> <br /> On 20th March 2007, ConFuzzled announced that there will be an announcement regarding registration on 31st March 2007.<br /> <br /> == Staff ==<br /> <br /> * '''[[Anthropup]]''' - Accounts Manager<br /> * '''[[ExiledWolf]]''' - Media Relations<br /> * '''[[Dingotush]]''' - General Advisory<br /> * '''[[FurbleFox]]''' (aka CaliHusky) - Convention Chairman &amp; Events Management<br /> * '''[[Graafen Blackpaw]]''' - Lead Convention Operations &amp; Security<br /> * '''[[Leinir]]''' - Website Administrator<br /> * '''[[Lev Lion]]''' - Convention Co-Founder &amp; Stage A/V Management<br /> * '''[[Mattlion]]''' - First Aid<br /> * '''[[Nidonocu]]''' - Information Systems<br /> * '''[[Shep Shepherd]]''' - Security/Convention Operations<br /> * '''[[SouthPaw]]''' - Convention Co-Founder &amp; Registration Lead<br /> * '''[[Tigz]]''' - Lead Security &amp; Convention Operations<br /> * '''[[Tungro]]''' - General Advisory<br /> * '''[[Wolfspawn3]]''' - Server Administrator &amp; Data Integrity<br /> <br /> == Date and location ==<br /> <br /> ConFuzzled has tentatively been proposed for June of 2008 in [[wikipedia:Manchester|Manchester]], [[wikipedia:North West England|North West England]]. Details such as registration cost remain to be worked out.<br /> <br /> == History ==<br /> <br /> Planning for ConFuzzled started in 2005, after several people from the UK Furry Community were frustrated by the lack of organization of others and decided to organize a furry convention, based upon their experience with [[Furmeet]]s.<br /> <br /> == External links ==<br /> {{WikiFurNews|UK furs plan to be ConFuzzled in 2008}}<br /> * [http://www.confuzzled.org.uk/ ConFuzzled website]<br /> * [http://www.ukfur.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=4799 ''UK furcons''] on [[ UKFur.net]] forum<br /> <br /> [[Category:Proposed conventions]]<br /> [[Category:United Kingdom]]<br /> [[Category:2008 births]]</div>

Graafen Blackpaw //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Shep_Shepherd 2007-03-23T17:02:17Z

<p>Graafen Blackpaw: +Shepfact and info regarding. Wiki-linked locations.</p> <hr /> <div>'''James 'Shep' Shepherd''' (real name '''James Anness''', born November 1977) is a member of the UK furry fandom whose fursona/guiding spirit is that of a black and tan [[German Shepherd]]. He is currently active within the [[LondonFurs]] community, attending meets when he can, and is part of the security team for the forthcoming UK furry convention, [[ConFuzzled]]. He has the distinction of having worn a suit and tie to the majority of furmeets that he has attended since late 2004.<br /> <br /> == Shepsuit ==<br /> <br /> Shep owns the Shepsuit, a [[fursuit]] based on his [[fursona]] that was made in mid-2006 by [[Brokken T. Wolf]]. Primarily commissioned for Shep's own pleasure, the Shepsuit has nevertheless brought joy and amusement to members of the furry fandom and the general public alike. Plans are afoot for a new commission later in 2007, possibly a [[Wikipedia:Berger Blanc Suisse|White Shepherd]] called Falko or Falco.<br /> <br /> == Interests ==<br /> <br /> Outside of furry Shep enjoys old cars, [[Wikipedia:1970s|1970]] and [[Wikipedia:1980s|1980s]] [[Wikipedia:Nostalgia|nostalgia]], travel (especially in Europe), food and drink, music, and company. He has a certain reputation in the UK for being a huge [[Wikipedia:Volvo|Volvo]] fan and proudly owns a red [[Wikipedia:Volvo 700 Series#Volvo 740|745]] (affectionately dubbed ''The Volvo'').<br /> <br /> Shep spends quite a lot of his time travelling, generally dividing his time between [[Wikipedia:Southend-on-Sea|Southend-on-Sea]] in [[Wikipedia:Essex|Essex]] and [[Wikipedia:Sandwich, Kent|Sandwich]] in [[Wikipedia:Kent|Kent]].<br /> <br /> == Shepfact ==<br /> <br /> Shep's [[LiveJournal]] updates often include the ''Shepfact''; daily factual trivia which is often featured on [http://www.tigertailsradio.co.uk/ Tiger Tails Radio].<br /> <br /> == External links ==<br /> *[http://shep-shepherd.livejournal.com/ Shep's LiveJournal]<br /> *[http://db.fursuit.org/?c=viewsuit&amp;id=212 The Shepsuit]<br /> <br /> {{Contributor}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:People]][[Category:Fursuiters]][[Category:Convention staff]][[Category:German Shepherd characters]][[Category:United Kingdom]][[Category:1977 births]]</div>

Graafen Blackpaw //en.wikifur.com/wiki/User_talk:Shep_Shepherd 2007-03-23T16:14:04Z

<p>Graafen Blackpaw: New page: Welcome to WikiFur, Shep! If you have any questions feel free to drop me a message! :D --~~~~</p> <hr /> <div>Welcome to WikiFur, Shep! If you have any questions feel free to drop me a message! :D --[[User:Graafen Blackpaw|Graafen Blackpaw]] 16:14, 23 March 2007 (UTC)</div>

Graafen Blackpaw //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Shep_Shepherd 2007-03-23T16:02:36Z

<p>Graafen Blackpaw: Rewrite of last paragraph to fit Wiki standards.</p> <hr /> <div>'''James 'Shep' Shepherd''' (real name '''James Anness''', born November 1977) is a member of the UK furry fandom whose fursona/guiding spirit is that of a black and tan [[German Shepherd]]. He is currently active within the [[LondonFurs]] community, attending meets when he can, and is part of the security team for the forthcoming UK furry convention, [[ConFuzzled]]. He has the distinction of having worn a suit and tie to the majority of furmeets that he has attended since late 2004.<br /> <br /> == Shepsuit ==<br /> <br /> Shep owns the Shepsuit, a [[fursuit]] based on his [[fursona]] that was made in mid-2006 by [[Brokken T. Wolf]]. Primarily commissioned for Shep's own pleasure, the Shepsuit has nevertheless brought joy and amusement to members of the furry fandom and the general public alike. Plans are afoot for a new commission later in 2007, possibly a [[Wikipedia:Berger Blanc Suisse|White Shepherd]] called Falko or Falco.<br /> <br /> == Interests ==<br /> <br /> Outside of furry Shep enjoys old cars, [[Wikipedia:1970s|1970]] and [[Wikipedia:1980s|1980s]] [[Wikipedia:Nostalgia|nostalgia]], travel (especially in Europe), food and drink, music, and company. He has a certain reputation in the UK for being a huge [[Wikipedia:Volvo|Volvo]] fan and proudly owns a red [[Wikipedia:Volvo 700 Series#Volvo 740|745]] (affectionately dubbed ''The Volvo'').<br /> <br /> Shep spends quite a lot of his time travelling, generally dividing his time between Southend in Essex and Sandwich in Kent.<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> *[http://shep-shepherd.livejournal.com/ Shep's] [[LiveJournal]]<br /> *[http://db.fursuit.org/?c=viewsuit&amp;id=212 The Shepsuit]<br /> <br /> {{Contributor}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:People]][[Category:Fursuiters]][[Category:Convention staff]][[Category:German Shepherd characters]][[Category:United Kingdom]][[Category:1977 births]]</div>

Graafen Blackpaw //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Burned_Furs 2007-03-22T13:45:34Z

<p>Graafen Blackpaw: Wikified. No further HTML present.</p> <hr /> <div>{{Cleanup}}<br /> {{Unreferenced}}<br /> [[Image:Burnedfurs.jpg|right|200px|Burned furs logo]]<br /> <br /> '''Burned Furs''' is the name of a movement to counter &quot;perversion&quot; within furry fandom which was active from 1998 to 2001. In November of 2005, [[Burned Furs II|a new group]] was created using the same name and logo as the original.<br /> <br /> == Founding and History ==<br /> The '''Burned Furs''' were founded in 1998 by [[Squee Rat]] and [[Eric Blumrich]]. The group was composed of, in the words of Squee, &quot;furs who have spoken up against fandom perversion and been 'burned at the stake' for it.&quot;<br /> <br /> The Burned Fur movement was created because, according to their Mission Statement, &quot;Anthropomorphics fandom is being overrun by sexually dysfunctional, socially stunted and creatively bankrupt hacks and pervs.&quot; Burned Fur, as a movement, did not produce an agenda or operating guidelines beyond its Manifesto and, to a lesser extent, Squee's &quot;A Modest Proposal&quot;. <br /> <br /> === Burned Fur Beliefs ===<br /> <br /> Many disputes over the exact nature of Burned Fur beliefs arose; the group was accused of wanting to impose some sort of anti-sexual vision on the rest of the fandom. Certain members of the group were intolerant of gays, [[Christian Furs]], [[Furry lifestyler|Furry Lifestylers]], obscure fetishes, and erotic artwork - but, more generally, the Burned Furs were intolerant of those people who walked up to television cameras and press microphones to declare that Furry Fandom essentially revolved around their own personal [[fetish|kinks]].<br /> <br /> While Burned Fur claimed that none of this was a problem if kept properly as a private matter, in private areas and within the law, they frequently targeted furry fans whose only &quot;crime&quot; was to criticize Burned Fur's in-your-face tactics. Many critics considered Burned Fur a hate group due to the harsh tone of the Manifesto, physical threats made against other furry fans, and offensive t-shirts produced by the group. Burned Fur's critics suggested the fandom's problems should be taken up discreetly with people in positions to do something about them rather than broadcast publicly where they could be, and are to this day, permanently archived.<br /> <br /> It was in this atmosphere of mutual intolerance that the debate over Furry Fandom's public image was waged, and subsequently buried under rampant acts of (sometimes mutual) demonization.<br /> <br /> Many of these disputes occurred on USENET in the [[:Category:Newsgroups|newsgroups]] [[alt.fan.furry]] and [[alt.lifestyle.furry]].<br /> <br /> === Opposition Groups ===<br /> <br /> The Burned Furs were opposed by a group formed specifically for the purpose called the [[Freezing Furs]] who accused the Burned Furs of being a hate group. Third and fourth groups, [[Nonaligned Furs]] and [[Furry Peace]] were formed on the basis of inclusion and non-alignment in the factional conflicts which resulted from the formation of the Burned Furs.<br /> <br /> By about 2001 the Burned Furs had faded into history, many of them having [[Leave The Fandom|left furry fandom]] altogether, with the effect that the countergroups formed to oppose them became defunct by default.<br /> <br /> == Points of Discussion ==<br /> {{Controversial}}<br /> <br /> * By the time Burned Fur was founded, individual convention-goers were already boycotting CF due to lewd behavior that the convention's organizers insisted on turning a blind eye to. ConFurence was finally turned over to a group dedicated to cleaning up the convention's image in 1999, but because the new Chairman was a Burned Fur and [http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.furry/msg/2bd5ad58a67ef33f credited Burned Fur for its new policies], many of the people who had been targeted by Burned Fur refused to attend. Although former attendees were beginning to return to CF due specifically to the change in management, attendance levels continued to decline until ConFurence officially closed its doors on April 27, 2003.<br /> <br /> * Ironically enough, once abandoned, the original &quot;Burned Furs&quot; website was picked up by a pornography merchandiser.<br /> <br /> == See also ==<br /> <br /> * [[Furs Against Furs]]<br /> * [[Burned Furs II]]<br /> * [[Baked Furs]]<br /> * ''[[SKORCH]]''<br /> * [[Ladder Trick]], a column by [[Nick Mamatas]], which mentioned Burned Furs in a 2000 column<br /> <br /> == References ==<br /> * ''[http://burnedfur.mv.com/manifesto.html This Sordid Little Business (The Furry Manifesto)]'', Squee Rat, 1998<br /> * ''[http://nothingkat.com/confession/furrypolitics.htm Furry Civil War &amp; Politics &amp; Shit]'', [[nothingkat]], [[nothingkat.com]] (7 September 2004)<br /> * ''Burned Fur: Retarded Infighting Trainwreck! [http://crushyiffdestroy.com/show-article.php?file=burnedfurs Part 1] - [http://crushyiffdestroy.com/show-article.php?file=burnedfurs2 Part 2]'', [[Computolio]], [[Crush Yiff Destroy]], 2004<br /> {{Stub}}<br /> == External links ==<br /> [[Image:BFRing.gif|thumb|right|Burned furs web-ring logo]]<br /> * [http://burnedfur.mv.com/ Mirror of Burned Fur website]<br /> * [http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?q=burned+furs Burned Furs on Google groups]<br /> * [http://www.brunching.com/furries.html A somewhat amusing discussion of the implications of the Burned Furs] by the [[Wikipedia:Brunching Shuttlecocks|Brunching Shuttlecocks]]<br /> <br /> [[Category:Anti-furries]]<br /> [[Category:Ideological groups]]<br /> [[Category:1998 births]]<br /> [[Category:2001 deaths]]<br /> {{Featured article}}</div>

Graafen Blackpaw //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Anthrocon_2005 2007-03-22T13:33:44Z

<p>Graafen Blackpaw: Added &quot;Theme&quot; and &quot;Change of Venue&quot; titles and moved the change of venue beneath theme.</p> <hr /> <div>{{Anthrocon}}<br /> '''Anthrocon 2005''' was held July 7-10 at the Wyndham Philadelphia, a hotel in the heart of [[wikipedia:Philadelphia, Pennsylvania|Philadelphia]], [[wikipedia:Pennsylvania|Pennsylvania]].<br /> <br /> The [[guests of honor]] were [[Wikipedia:Peter Laird|Peter Laird]], co-creator of [[Wikipedia:Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles|Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles]] and [[Timothy Albee]], (&quot;[[Kaze: Ghost Warrior|Kaze: Ghost Warrior]]&quot;)<br /> <br /> == Theme ==<br /> <br /> The convention's theme was &quot;Anthrocon Heroes&quot;. It was a nod to police officers, firemen, and all kinds of everyday people who did something to become heroes in others' eyes. Among planned events were the [[Dealers' Room]] and [[Artists' Alley]], gaming room, and especially [[Uncle Kage's Story Hour]].<br /> <br /> == Change of Venue ==<br /> <br /> Following the demolition announcement of the [[Adam's Mark]] hotel to occur in the first quarter of 2005, the Anthrocon staff scrambled to find an alternate venue to hold the convention for their 2005 program. Dozens of hotels and convention centers offered to be the new location of the convention, but the Wyndham hotel was the closest and cheapest available location. After a long duration, the official announcement was made that the Wyndham Philadelphia would serve as their venue for 2005. As it was explained shortly thereafter, the hotel would be their venue only for 2005 as they were looking into a new permanent home for the convention. This would later turn out to be in [[wikipedia:Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania|Pittsburgh]].<br /> <br /> [[Image:Ac2005fursuitparade.jpg|thumb|right|The [[fursuit parade]] on the last day of Anthrocon 2005]]<br /> <br /> Due to space limitations the internet room was set up in the second floor of the lobby, and the convention could not offer [[Zoo|The Zoo]] to the attendees (the large main lobby more than made up for it). They could not hold as many artists and dealers selling their services and products as the previous year. Despite the space limitations, the convention proved to be a success, with a turnout almost as large as that of [[Anthrocon 2004]].<br /> <br /> <br /> == Financials ==<br /> {{con-finance<br /> |organization = [[Anthrocon, Inc.]]<br /> |currency = $<br /> |initial-assets = 54995.65<br /> |final-assets = 72144.75<br /> |initial-cash = 27403.93<br /> |final-cash = 40050.98<br /> |initial-liabilities = 0<br /> |final-liabilities = 0<br /> |total-revenue = 125169.78<br /> |charity-revenue = 20083<br /> |membership-revenue = 106120<br /> |merchandise-profit = 3009.80<br /> |events-profit = -6443.02<br /> |total-expense = 112542.73<br /> |occupancy-expense = 30247.32<br /> |equipment-expense = 17542.22<br /> |printing-expense = 10336.76<br /> |source = [http://www.guidestar.org/pqShowGsReport.do?userHomePage=false&amp;npoId=100363026 Anthrocon, Inc. Form 990] ([http://www.npccny.org/Form_990/990.htm description]) from [http://guidestar.com GuideStar.com]<br /> }}<br /> <br /> == External links ==<br /> <br /> * [http://www.livejournal.com/community/anthrocon/106870.html OF ALL THINGS: All The Rage in the US] - an article on Anthrocon 2005 in the [[Wikipedia:Financial Times|Financial Times]]<br /> <br /> [[Category:Conventions]]<br /> [[Category:Pennsylvania]]<br /> [[Category:2005 events]]</div>

Graafen Blackpaw //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Anthrocon_2005 2007-03-22T13:17:15Z

<p>Graafen Blackpaw: Removed span class from &quot;source&quot; in Financials. Page now Wikified, no HTML present.</p> <hr /> <div>{{Anthrocon}}<br /> '''Anthrocon 2005''' was held July 7-10 at the Wyndham Philadelphia, a hotel in the heart of [[wikipedia:Philadelphia, Pennsylvania|Philadelphia]], [[wikipedia:Pennsylvania|Pennsylvania]].<br /> <br /> The [[guests of honor]] were [[Wikipedia:Peter Laird|Peter Laird]], co-creator of [[Wikipedia:Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles|Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles]] and [[Timothy Albee]], (&quot;[[Kaze: Ghost Warrior|Kaze: Ghost Warrior]]&quot;)<br /> <br /> Following the demolition announcement of the [[Adam's Mark]] hotel to occur in the first quarter of 2005, the Anthrocon staff scrambled to find an alternate venue to hold the convention for their 2005 program. Dozens of hotels and convention centers offered to be the new location of the convention, but the Wyndham hotel was the closest and cheapest available location. After a long duration, the official announcement was made that the Wyndham Philadelphia would serve as their venue for 2005. As it was explained shortly thereafter, the hotel would be their venue only for 2005 as they were looking into a new permanent home for the convention. This would later turn out to be in [[wikipedia:Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania|Pittsburgh]].<br /> <br /> [[Image:Ac2005fursuitparade.jpg|thumb|right|The [[fursuit parade]] on the last day of Anthrocon 2005]]<br /> The convention's theme was &quot;Anthrocon Heroes&quot;. It was a nod to police officers, firemen, and all kinds of everyday people who did something to become heroes in others' eyes. Among planned events were the [[Dealers' Room]] and [[Artists' Alley]], gaming room, and especially [[Uncle Kage's Story Hour]].<br /> <br /> Due to space limitations the internet room was set up in the second floor of the lobby, and the convention could not offer [[Zoo|The Zoo]] to the attendees (the large main lobby more than made up for it). They could not hold as many artists and dealers selling their services and products as the previous year. Despite the space limitations, the convention proved to be a success, with a turnout almost as large as that of [[Anthrocon 2004]].<br /> <br /> == Financials ==<br /> {{con-finance<br /> |organization = [[Anthrocon, Inc.]]<br /> |currency = $<br /> |initial-assets = 54995.65<br /> |final-assets = 72144.75<br /> |initial-cash = 27403.93<br /> |final-cash = 40050.98<br /> |initial-liabilities = 0<br /> |final-liabilities = 0<br /> |total-revenue = 125169.78<br /> |charity-revenue = 20083<br /> |membership-revenue = 106120<br /> |merchandise-profit = 3009.80<br /> |events-profit = -6443.02<br /> |total-expense = 112542.73<br /> |occupancy-expense = 30247.32<br /> |equipment-expense = 17542.22<br /> |printing-expense = 10336.76<br /> |source = [http://www.guidestar.org/pqShowGsReport.do?userHomePage=false&amp;npoId=100363026 Anthrocon, Inc. Form 990] ([http://www.npccny.org/Form_990/990.htm description]) from [http://guidestar.com GuideStar.com]<br /> }}<br /> <br /> == External links ==<br /> <br /> * [http://www.livejournal.com/community/anthrocon/106870.html OF ALL THINGS: All The Rage in the US] - an article on Anthrocon 2005 in the [[Wikipedia:Financial Times|Financial Times]]<br /> <br /> [[Category:Conventions]]<br /> [[Category:Pennsylvania]]<br /> [[Category:2005 events]]</div>

Graafen Blackpaw //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Miavir 2007-03-22T12:41:15Z

<p>Graafen Blackpaw: Cleaned up and added Person-stub.</p> <hr /> <div>'''Miavir''', real name '''Deon Ramsey''', is a [[furry fan]] from [[Wikipedia:Germany|Germany]]. He prefers to be called by his nickname when discussing [[anthropomorphic]]s.<br /> <br /> Miavir is the administrator of [[Mia's Index of Anthro Stories]]. He may sometimes also be found on [[FurryMUCK]] or [[SPR]], though usually being in hiding.<br /> <br /> == Character ==<br /> <br /> Miavir is a member of an alien [[feline]] race known as the ''Mrxxxx'', all of whom have a high [[Wikipedia:Psi (parapsychology)|PSI]] potential, as well as being [[Shapeshifter]]s, though the latter works rather slowly. They (and thus Miavir) all have a tendency to cuddle anything that doesn't run away quickly enough. Beware.<br /> <br /> == External Links ==<br /> <br /> * [http://furry.de/miavir/stories.html Mia's Index of Anthro' Stories]<br /> <br /> {{person-stub}}<br /> <br /> {{Contributor|Miavir}}<br /> [[Category:People]]<br /> [[Category:Feline characters]]<br /> [[Category:Alien characters]]<br /> [[Category:Germany]]<br /> [[Category:1965 births]]</div>

Graafen Blackpaw //en.wikifur.com/wiki/List_of_furry_LiveJournal_communities 2007-03-21T18:22:38Z

<p>Graafen Blackpaw: /* Conventions */ Added ConFuzzled's LJ</p> <hr /> <div>Below is a '''list of furry LiveJournal communities''', alphabetical by heading. As of August 2006, [[LiveJournal]]'s search by interest listed 405 communities [http://www.livejournal.com/interests.bml?int=furry interested in &quot;furry&quot;]. This does not completely overlap with related interests, such as [http://www.livejournal.com/interests.bml?int=anthropomorphics anthropomorphics] (205), [http://www.livejournal.com/interests.bml?int=furs furs] (218), [http://www.livejournal.com/interests.bml?int=fursuits fursuits] (132), [http://www.livejournal.com/interests.bml?int=yiff yiff] (138), ''et cetera''.<br /> <br /> &lt;div style=&quot;float:right&quot;&gt;__TOC__&lt;/div&gt;<br /> ==Art==<br /> &lt;nowiki&gt;*&lt;/nowiki&gt; marks communities are not exclusively furry.<br /> === [[Furry art]] ===<br /> * [http://community.livejournal.com/were_art/ Anthro &amp; Animal Artists]<br /> * [http://community.livejournal.com/contestcentral/ A Place to Plug Your Art Contest] *<br /> * [http://community.livejournal.com/charsheets/ Character Sheets R Us]<br /> * [http://community.livejournal.com/fantasywildlife/ Fantasy Wildlife]<br /> * [http://community.livejournal.com/furryartists/ Furry Artists]<br /> * [http://community.livejournal.com/furryicons/ Furry Icons]<br /> * [http://community.livejournal.com/furryicontrends/ Furry LJ icon trends]<br /> <br /> * '''Adult Material''':<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/anthro_guro/ Anthro EroGuro]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/dracophile/ Dracophile]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/dracophilia/ Dracophilia]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/dracophiliac/ Dracophiliac]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/erotic_equine/ Erotic Equine]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/fur_porn/ Fur Porn]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/furotica/ Furotica]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/furry_pinups/ Furry Pinups]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/gryphonerotica/ Gryphon Erotica]<br /> <br /> * '''Artist and Commissioner Discussion''':<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/artists_beware/ Artists Beware]*<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/fantards/ Fantards]*<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/furarthorrors/ Fur Art Horrors] (by invitation only)<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/artistrecommend/ Recommending Artists] *<br /> <br /> === [[Art exchange]]s ===<br /> <br /> * '''General''':<br /> ** '''[[Fur Art Xchange]]''': [http://community.livejournal.com/furartxchange/ Furry Art Exchange] (closed)<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/furartxxxchange/ Furry Art Exchange: Adult Aspects] (closed)<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/furartxchange2/ Fur Art Exchange 2]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/furoticxchange/ Furotic Exchange]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/furoticmark2/ Furry Adult Art Exchange]<br /> <br /> * '''[[Species]]''':<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/avian_exchange/ Avian Exchange]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/caninexchange Canine Exchange]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/dragon_exchange/ Dragon Exchange]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/equinexchange/ Equine Exchange]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/gryphon_xchange/ Gryphon Exchange]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/ggexchange/ Gryphon's Guild Exchange]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/hybridxchange/ Hybrid Exchange]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/lapinexchange/ Lapine Exchange]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/mlp_artxchange/ My Little Pony Exchange]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/mythicexchange2 Mythic Exchange 2]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/paleo_exchange/ Paleo Exchange]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/reptile_xchange/ Reptile Exchange]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/taur_xchange/ Taur Exchange]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/wildcatxchange Wild Cat Exchange]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/wolfxchange/ Wolf Exchange]<br /> <br /> * '''Various''':<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/100x100xchnge/ 100x100 Icon Exchange] *<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/badgeexchange/ Con Badge Exchange] *<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/conbadges/ Conbadge Trade Monthly] *<br /> <br /> === Art projects ===<br /> <br /> * '''Playing cards'''<br /> ** '''[[The Bestiary (playing cards)|The Bestiary]]''': [http://community.livejournal.com/bestiarycards/ Bestiary Cards]<br /> ** '''[[Kennel Club]]''': [http://thekennelclub.livejournal.com/ The Kennel Club]<br /> * '''Cookbooks'''<br /> ** '''[[Recipe Portfolio]]''': [http://community.livejournal.com/recipeportfolio/ Furry Cookbook Portfolio]<br /> * '''Themed'''<br /> ** '''[[Serpentes]]''': [http://community.livejournal.com/snakefolio/ Serpentes]<br /> <br /> === Art archives ===<br /> <br /> *'''[[ArtVark]]:'''<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/artsnark/ Art Snark] (unofficial, complaints community)<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/artvarkbootcamp/ Camp Artvark] (official community)<br /> <br /> *'''[[Fur Affinity]]''':<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/furaffinity/ Fur Affinity]<br /> <br /> *'''[[VCL]]:'''<br /> ** '''[[VCL Horrors]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/vclhorrors/ The Horrors of VCL] <br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/vcl_admin_diary/ Musings of the VCL admins]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/vclpickoftheday/ VCL Pick of the Day]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/vcl_kink/ The Weird, Wild, &amp; Wonderful of VCL]<br /> <br /> *'''[[Yerf]]:'''<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/yerf/ Yerf]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/yerf_hopefuls/ Yerf Hopefuls]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/anti_yerf/ The Yerf/Non-Yerf Mutual Agree to Disagree Society]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/yerf_vent/ Yerf Vent]<br /> <br /> ==Conventions==<br /> *'''[[All Fur Fun]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/allfurfun/ AllFurFun]<br /> *'''[[Anthrocon]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/anthrocon/ Anthrocon] (unofficial)<br /> *'''[[C-ACE]] (Canadian Arts and Cartooning Expo):''' [http://community.livejournal.com/cace_discuss/ CACE] (unofficial)<br /> *'''[[Califur]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/califur/ Califur]<br /> *'''[[ConFuzzled]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/confuzzledlj ConFuzzledLJ]<br /> *'''[[Feral!|Camp Feral!]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/feral_campers/ Feral_Campers] (unofficial)<br /> *'''[[Cape May Fur Meet]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/capemayfurmeet CapeMayFurMeet]<br /> *'''[[Eurofurence]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/eurofurence/ Eurofurence] (unofficial)<br /> *'''[[FurFright]]''': [http://community.livejournal.com/furfright FurFright]<br /> *'''[[Furry Cruise]]''': [http://community.livejournal.com/furrycruise/ FurryCruise]<br /> *'''[[Furry Fiesta]]''': [http://community.livejournal.com/furryfiesta/ FurryFiesta]<br /> *'''[[Furry Weekend Atlanta]]''': [http://community.livejournal.com/furryweekend FurryWeekend] (official)<br /> *'''[[Further Confusion]]''': [http://community.livejournal.com/furcon/ FurCon]<br /> *'''[[Megaplex]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/megaplex/ Megaplex] (official)<br /> *'''[[Mephit Furmeet]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/mfm/ MFM]<br /> *'''[[Midwest FurFest]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/midwest_furfest/ Midwest_FurFest] (unofficial)<br /> *'''[[Morphicon]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/ohiomorphicon/ OhioMorphicon] (unofficial)<br /> *'''[[Oklacon]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/Oklacon/ Oklacon]<br /> *'''[[Rocket City Furmeet]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/rcfm/ RCFM]<br /> *'''Operations''': [http://community.livejournal.com/furoperations/ Furry Convention Operations]<br /> <br /> ==Costuming and [[fursuit]]s==<br /> * [http://community.livejournal.com/behindtheseams/ BehindTheSeams]<br /> * [http://community.livejournal.com/fursuit Fursuit]<br /> * [http://community.livejournal.com/fursuitauctions/ Fursuit Auctions]<br /> * [http://community.livejournal.com/fursuitlounge/ Fursuit Lounge]<br /> * [http://community.livejournal.com/fur_suits/ Fur Suits]<br /> * [http://community.livejournal.com/fursuits/ Fursuits]<br /> * [http://community.livejournal.com/fursuitters/ Fursuitters]<br /> * [http://community.livejournal.com/ilovetails/ I Love Tails]<br /> * [http://community.livejournal.com/ukfursuit/ UK Fursuit]<br /> * [http://community.livejournal.com/inside_the_suit/ Who's inside the suit?]<br /> <br /> ==Interests==<br /> <br /> * '''General''': <br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/furrtive/ furrtive (The Furry Community)]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/the_fur_pad/ The Fur Pad]<br /> * '''Acting''': [http://community.livejournal.com/actorfurs/ Thespian Furs' Journal]<br /> * '''[[Animal]] photographs''':<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/baaaaabyanimals/ Baaaaaby Animals]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/canine_photos/ Canine Photos]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/huskybreak/ Husky specific Photos]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/wildphotos/ Wildphotos]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/wolfphotography/ Wolf Photography]<br /> * '''[[Astronomy]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/astrono_furs/ Astronomy Furs]<br /> * '''[[Babyfur]]s:''' <br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/babyfur/ Babyfur community]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/baby_furs/ Babyfurs Playpen]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/eu_babyfurs/ European Babyfurs]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/furry_daycare/ Furry Daycare]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/furryregression/ Furry Age Regression]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/lilfurs/ Little Furs]<br /> * '''[[Baked Furs]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/bakedfurs/ Baked Furs]<br /> * '''[[Free paws|Bare paws]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/barepaws/ Furry, bare paw enthusiasts' Journal]<br /> * '''Classical music''': [http://community.livejournal.com/classical_furs/ The Classical Music Furry Community]<br /> * '''Cars:''' (see Motors below)<br /> * '''Cooking:''' [[Furs that Cook]]: [http://community.livejournal.com/fursthatcook/ Furs That Cook] <br /> * '''Cowboys &amp; Western Lifestyle:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/cowboyfurs/ Cowboy Furs]<br /> * '''[[DDR]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/ddr_furs/ DDR Furs]<br /> * '''Drinking:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/drinkingfurs/ Furs that drink]<br /> * '''Education:'''<br /> ** '''College degrees''': [[Smart Furs]]: [http://community.livejournal.com/smart_furs/ Smart Furs] <br /> ** [[Furries in University and College]]: [http://community.livejournal.com/furs_in_uni/ Furries in University and College] <br /> * '''Erotica:''' <br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/furotica/ Furotica]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/furryvore/ LJ Furry Vore Community]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/yiff/ Yiff]<br /> * '''Exercise:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/furryfitness/ Furry Fitness]<br /> * '''[[Fat fur|Fatfur]]s:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/fatfurs/ Fatfurs]<br /> * '''[[Funday PawPet Show]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/pawpet/ Funday PawPet Show]<br /> * '''[[Furgonomics]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/furgonomics/ Furgonomics Community]<br /> *'''Gaming:'''<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/furgamers/ Fur Gamers]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/furry_gamers/ Furry Gamers]<br /> **'''[[wikipedia:Nintendo DS|Nintendo DS]]''': [http://community.livejournal.com/ds_furs/ DS furs]<br /> **'''[[Sociopolitical Ramifications]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/sprfurs/ Furs for Sociopolitical Ramifications]<br /> ** '''[[Wikipedia:World of Warcraft|World of Warcraft]]''': [http://community.livejournal.com/fursofwow/ Furries of World of Warcraft]<br /> **'''[[wikipedia:Xbox Live|Xbox Live]]''': [http://community.livejournal.com/xboxlive_furs/ Furs of XBox Live]<br /> * '''[[Wikipedia:Geocaching|Geocaching]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/furrycachers/ Geocaching furries]<br /> * '''[[Wikipedia:Goth|Goth]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/gothic_furries/ Gothic_Furries]<br /> * '''[[wikipedia:indie|Indie]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/indie_furs/ Indie Furs]<br /> * '''Health:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/healthandfitfur/ Furry Health and Fitness]<br /> * '''[[Inflatophilia]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/inflationfurs/ InflationFurs]<br /> * '''[[IRC]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/anthrochat/ Anthrochat]<br /> * '''[[Wikipedia:Linux|Linux]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/linuxfurs/ Linux Furs]<br /> * '''Meeting other furs:''' [[Furry Connect]]: [http://community.livejournal.com/furry_connect/ Furry Connect] <br /> * '''Modeling (photos):''' [http://community.livejournal.com/furrealmodels/ Furs That Model]<br /> * '''Motors:'''<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/anth_road_track/ Anthroad &amp; Track: The Furry Motorsports Community]<br /> ** [[Motor Furs]]: [http://community.livejournal.com/motor_furs/ Motor Furs] <br /> * '''[[:Category:Philosophy|Philosophy]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/furjectivists/ Furry Objectivists]<br /> * '''[[Nazi Furs]]''': [http://community.livejournal.com/nazi_furs/ Nazi Furs]<br /> * '''[[Wikipedia:Piracy|Pirates]]''': [http://community.livejournal.com/pirate_furs/ Pirate Furries]<br /> * '''[[plush toy|Plushie]]s:''' <br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/plush_love/ Plush Love]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/plushtails/ Plush Tails]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/plush_workshop/ Plush Workshop]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/plush_family/ Plush Bears &amp; Families]<br /> * '''Pow wows''': [http://community.livejournal.com/pow_wow_furries/ Pow wow furries]<br /> * '''Racist:''': [http://community.livejournal.com/racist_furs/ Racist Furs]<br /> * '''[[:Category:Radio|Radio]]:''' [[Radio Furs]]: [http://community.livejournal.com/radiofurs/ Radio Furs]<br /> * '''Reading:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/furryreaders/ Furry Readers]<br /> * '''[[Second Life]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/secondlife_furs/ Second Life Furry Community]<br /> * '''[[wikipedia:skinhead|Skinheads]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/skinhead_furs/ Skinhead Furs]<br /> * '''[[Soviet Furs]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/soviet_furs/ Soviet Furs (+DDR)]<br /> * '''Spandex:''' <br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/slinkyfurs/ Slinky Furs]<br /> **[http://community.livejournal.com/spandexfurs/ Spandex Furs]<br /> * '''[[Tapestries]]:''' <br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/tapestries/ Tapestries]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/golden_lash/ Tapestries' The Golden Lash]<br /> * '''[[wikipedia:Tattoo|Tattoo]]ing:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/furrytattoos/ Furry (skin) Art]<br /> * '''[[Therian]]s, furs and [[otherkin]] with issues:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/mental_shifters/ Mental Shifters Community Journal]<br /> * '''Weapons:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/gun_furry/ Furry Gun owners]<br /> * '''[[Wikipedia:Microsoft Windows|Windows]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/windowsfurs/ Windows Furs]<br /> * '''Writing:'''<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/furrywriters/ Furry Writers]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/furreviews/ Fur Reviews]<br /> <br /> ==Languages other than English==<br /> *'''Interlingua:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/iala_furry/ IALA Furry]<br /> *'''Russian:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/ru_furry/ Русскоязычный портал Furry]<br /> <br /> ==Location==<br /> <br /> ===Africa===<br /> *'''[[:Category:South Africa|South Africa]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/za_furs/ South African Furs] (Deleted (June 2006?))<br /> <br /> ===Asia===<br /> ====Regions====<br /> *'''Asia:''' [[AnthroAsia]]: [http://community.livejournal.com/anthroasia/ AnthroAsia LJ community] <br /> <br /> ===Europe===<br /> ====Regions====<br /> *'''Europe:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/eurofurs/ Eurofurs Community]<br /> <br /> ====Countries====<br /> *'''[[:Category:Finland|Finland]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/finnfurs/ FinnFurs]<br /> *'''[[:Category:Netherlands|The Netherlands]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/dutchfurs/ Dutch Furs]<br /> *'''[[:Category:Norway|Norway]]:''' [[Norwegian Paws]]: [http://community.livejournal.com/norpaws/ Norpaws] <br /> *'''[[:Category:Sweden|Sweden]]:'''<br /> ** [[Gothenburg Furry List]]: [http://community.livejournal.com/gotfur/ Gothenburg Furry List] <br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/swefur/ Swedish Furry Community's Journal]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/swedefurs Gathering Place for Swedish Furries]<br /> *'''[[:Category:United Kingdom|United Kingdom]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/furryuk/ furryUK]<br /> **'''[[:Category:London|London]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/londonfurs/ London Furry and Were Community]<br /> <br /> ===North America===<br /> ====[[:Category:Canada|Canada]]====<br /> =====Regions=====<br /> *'''Canada:''' [[Canadian Furs]]: [http://community.livejournal.com/canadianfurs/ Canadian Furs] <br /> <br /> =====Provinces=====<br /> *'''Alberta:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/albertafurs/ Alberta Furs]<br /> **'''Calgary:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/calgaryfur/ Calgary Furs]<br /> *'''[[:Category:British Columbia|British Columbia]]'''<br /> **'''Vancouver:'''<br /> *** [http://community.livejournal.com/vanfurs/ Vancouver Furs]<br /> *** [http://community.livejournal.com/vfur_chat/ Vancouver Furs General Chat]<br /> ** '''Vancouver Island:''' '''[[Vancouver Island Furs]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/vifur/ Vancouver Island Furs]<br /> *'''Manitoba'''<br /> **'''Southern Manitoba:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/smbfurs/ Southern Manitoba Furs]<br /> *'''Ontario'''<br /> **'''Kingston:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/k_town_furries/ K-Town Furries]<br /> **'''Northern Ontario:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/onf/ Ontario Northland Furries]<br /> **'''Ottawa:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/ottfur/ Ottawa Furries]<br /> **'''Toronto:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/toronto_furry/ toronto-furry]<br /> *'''Québec'''<br /> **'''Montreal:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/monfur/ Montreal Furries]<br /> <br /> ====United States====<br /> =====Regions=====<br /> *'''New England:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/newenglandfurs/ New England Furs]<br /> *'''East Coast:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/eastcoastfurs East Coast Furs]<br /> *'''Gulf Coast:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/gulfcoast_furs/ Furries in and Around the Gulf of Mexico]<br /> *'''Midwest:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/midwestfurs Midwest/Heartland Furs]<br /> *'''South:'''<br /> **[http://community.livejournal.com/southrnfriedfur/ Southern Fried Furs]<br /> **[http://community.livejournal.com/dirtysouth_furs/ Dirty South Furs]<br /> *'''Southwest Lake Michigan (IN/IL/WI) - [[LAFF]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/lafflist Lake Area Furry Friends]<br /> *'''Rockies:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/mountain_furs High Mountain Furries]<br /> *'''West Coast:'''<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/westcoastfurs/ The Furs of the West Coast]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/pacificfurrs/ Pacific Furrs]<br /> <br /> =====States=====<br /> *'''[[:Category:Alabama|Alabama]]:'''<br /> **'''[[AuburnFurs]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/auburnfurs/ Auburn (and East Alabama) Furries' Journal]<br /> <br /> *'''[[:Category:Arkansas|Arkansas]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/cenarkfurs/ Central Arkansas Furs Association]<br /> <br /> *'''[[:Category:California|California]]:'''<br /> **'''Mid-California:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/mid_cali_furs/ Mid-California Fur/Scalie/Anthro/Therian Community]<br /> **'''Sacramento and Northern California:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/sacfurs/ Sacramento Furries]<br /> **'''Northern California:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/norcalfurs/ Northern California Furs]<br /> **'''San Francisco Bay:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/bafur/ San Francisco Bay Area Furries]<br /> **'''Southern California:'''<br /> *** [[SoCalFurs]]: [http://community.livejournal.com/socalfurs/ Southern California Furs] <br /> *** [http://community.livejournal.com/socalfurryteens/ Southern California Furry Teens]<br /> **'''Fresno:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/valley_furs/ Central Valley Furs]<br /> <br /> *'''[[:Category:Colorado|Colorado]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/colofurs/ Colorado Furries]<br /> <br /> *'''[[:Category:Connecticut|Connecticut]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/ctfurs/ Connecticut Furs]<br /> <br /> *'''[[:Category:Florida|Florida]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/floridafurs/ Florida Furs]<br /> **'''Jacksonville:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/jaxfurs/ Jax Furs]<br /> **'''Orlando:''' [[Orlando Furs]]: [http://community.livejournal.com/orlando_furs/ Orlando Furs]<br /> ** [[Palm Beach County Furries]]: [http://community.livejournal.com/palmbeachfurs/ Palm Beach County Furries]<br /> <br /> *'''[[:Category:Georgia|Georgia]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/georgiafurs/ Georgia Furs]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/atlanta_furs/ Atlanta Furs]<br /> <br /> *'''[[:Category:Idaho|Idaho]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/idaho_furs/ Idaho furs, weres, fantasy lovers, etc.]<br /> <br /> *'''[[:Category:Illinois|Illinois]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/lafflist/ LAFF List]<br /> <br /> *'''[[:Category:Iowa|Iowa]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/sniff_furry/ Social Network for Iowa's Friendly Furs]<br /> <br /> *'''[[:Category:Kansas|Kansas]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/kcfur/ Kansas City Fur Community]<br /> <br /> *'''[[:Category:Kentucky|Kentucky]]:''' [[Bluegrass Furs]]: [http://community.livejournal.com/bluegrass_furs/ Bluegrass Furs Community] <br /> <br /> *'''[[:Category:Louisiana|Louisiana]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/louisianafurs/ Louisiana Furs]<br /> <br /> *'''[[:Category:Maine|Maine]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/mainefurs/ Maine Furs]<br /> <br /> *'''[[:Category:Maryland|Maryland]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/md_furs/ md_furs] <br /> <br /> *'''[[:Category:Michigan|Michigan]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/mifur/ mifur]<br /> <br /> *'''[[:Category:Minnesota|Minnesota]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/sncfurs/ MN Furmeets]<br /> <br /> *'''[[:Category:Missouri|Missouri]]:'''<br /> **'''St Louis:''' [[Arch Regional Furs]]: [http://community.livejournal.com/arf_baby/ ARF (Arch Regional Furs)] <br /> <br /> *'''[[:Category:New Jersey|New Jersey]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/newjerseyfurs/ New Jersey Furs]<br /> <br /> *'''[[:Category:New Mexico|New Mexico]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/nmfurcentral/ New Mexico Furry Group]<br /> <br /> *'''[[:Category:New York|New York]]:'''<br /> **'''Buffalo (and West NY area)''': [http://community.livejournal.com/buffalofurs/ Buffalo Furs]<br /> **'''Long Island:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/li_furs/ Long Island Furs]<br /> **'''Plattsburgh:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/plattsburghfur/ Plattsburgh Furs Unite]<br /> **'''Rochester:''' [[Area of Rochester Furs]]: [http://community.livejournal.com/rochesterfurs/ Area of Rochester Furs (ARF)]<br /> <br /> *'''[[:Category:North Carolina|North Carolina]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/nc_furs/ NC Furs]<br /> **'''Triad area:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/nctriadfurs/ NC Triad Furs]<br /> <br /> *'''[[:Category:Ohio|Ohio]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/ohiofurs/ Ohio Furries]<br /> **'''NorthEast Ohio:''' [[NEOFurs]]: [http://community.livejournal.com/neofurs/ North East Ohio Furries (NEO Furs)]<br /> <br /> *'''[[:Category:Oklahoma|Oklahoma]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/oklahoma_furs/ Oklahoma Furs]<br /> <br /> *'''[[:Category:Oregon|Oregon]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/oregonfurs/ Oregon Furs]<br /> <br /> *'''[[:Category:Pennsylvania|Pennsylvania]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/pa_furry/ PA-Furry]<br /> **'''Pittsburgh:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/pittsfurghers/ pittsfurghers]<br /> <br /> *'''[[:Category:Tennessee|Tennessee]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/tnfurs/ Tennessee Furs]<br /> **'''[[Wikipedia:Chattanooga, Tennessee|Chattanooga]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/chatttownfurs/ Chatt-Town Furs]<br /> <br /> *'''[[:Category:Texas|Texas]]:'''<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/texan_furries/ Texan Furry Community]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/texasareafurs/ Texas Area Furry Friends]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/texas_furry/ Texas Furries]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/texasfurs/ Texas Furs LJ Community]<br /> <br /> *'''[[:Category:Virginia|Virginia]]:''' <br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/furginia/ Furginia Furs]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/novafur/ NoVA ('''No'''rthern '''VA''') Furs]<br /> <br /> *'''[[:Category:Washington|Washington]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/washingtonfurs/ Washington Furs]<br /> **'''Puget Sound:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/pugetsoundfurs/ Puget Sound Furries]<br /> **'''Spokane:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/spokanefurs/ Spokane Furs]<br /> <br /> *'''[[:Category:Wisconsin|Wisconsin]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/wi_furs/ Wisconsin Furries]<br /> **'''Madison:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/madisonfurry/ Madison Furry]<br /> <br /> ===South America===<br /> *'''[[:Category:Chile|Chile]]:''' [[Furry Chile]]: [http://community.livejournal.com/furrychile/ Furry Chile LJ]<br /> <br /> ==Other==<br /> *'''[http://community.livejournal.com/bfnf/ Bum Fuk Nowhere Furs]'''<br /> <br /> ==Occupations and hobbies==<br /> * [http://community.livejournal.com/furry_farmers/ Furry Farmers]<br /> *'''Firefighting:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/firefighterfurs/ FireFighterFurs]<br /> *'''[[MILFurs|Military]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/militaryfurries/ Military Furries]<br /> *'''Modelling:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/furrealmodels/ Modeling Furries]<br /> *'''Music:''' <br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/furry_composers/ Furry Composers]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/furrydjs/ Furry DJs]<br /> * '''Truck drivers''':<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/trucker_furs/ Trucker Furs]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/trucking_furs/ Trucking Furs]<br /> <br /> ==Opinions and politics==<br /> *'''Being fur-curious:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/pseudofur/ Pseudofurs]<br /> *'''Being open-minded:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/openpaws/ OpenPaws]<br /> *'''Conservatism:'''<br /> **[[ConFURvatives]]: [http://community.livejournal.com/confurvatives/ ConFURvatives] <br /> **[http://community.livejournal.com/rightiefurs/ Right-paw'd Furs]<br /> *'''Liberalism:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/leftfurs/ Left-Wing Furries]<br /> *'''Frustrated with furry fandom:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/frustrated_furs/ Frustrated Furs]<br /> *'''Furries are awesome:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/furries_awesome/ Furries Awesome]<br /> *'''Tired of furry fandom:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/jaded_furs/ Jaded Furries]<br /> *'''Unification of furries:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/nationalist_fur/ Nationalist Furries]<br /> *'''Rants on certain aspects of furry fandom:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/furryrants/ Furry Rants]<br /> <br /> ===Anti-Furries===<br /> *[http://community.livejournal.com/antifurry/ The Anti-Furry Movement]<br /> *[http://community.livejournal.com/wearecyd/ CYD Livejournal]<br /> *[http://community.livejournal.com/deathtofurries/ Death to Furries]<br /> *[http://community.livejournal.com/furry_holocaust/ Discussion of the Furry/Otherkin Sickness]<br /> *[[Furbid Horrors]]: [http://community.livejournal.com/furbid_horrors/ Furbid Horrors] <br /> *[http://community.livejournal.com/fur_furs/ Fur Furs]<br /> *[http://community.livejournal.com/furriesarescum/ Furries Are Scum's Journal]<br /> *[http://community.livejournal.com/furantifur/ Furries who Hate Furries]<br /> *[http://community.livejournal.com/furrydrama/ Furry Drama Central]<br /> *[http://community.livejournal.com/fursecution/ Fursecution]<br /> *[http://community.livejournal.com/hatefurries/ I Hate Furries]<br /> *[http://community.livejournal.com/laffdrama/ LAFF Drama]<br /> *[http://community.livejournal.com/nlsa/ Nasty Little Shites Association]<br /> *[http://community.livejournal.com/trichology/ Trichology: The Study of Furries (and Otherkin)'s Journal]<br /> *[http://community.livejournal.com/vclhorrors/ VCL Horrors Redux]<br /> *[http://community.livejournal.com/vcl_snark/ VCL Snark]<br /> *[http://community.livejournal.com/wtf_fa/ WTF FA]<br /> *[http://community.livejournal.com/wtf_vcl/ WTF VCL]<br /> *[http://community.livejournal.com/we_hate_furries/ We Hate Furries]<br /> <br /> == Religions, faiths, and spirituality ==<br /> *'''Catholic''': [http://community.livejournal.com/catholicfurs/ Catholic Furs]<br /> *'''[[Christian]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/furrychristians/ Furry Christians]<br /> *'''Jewish:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/jewishfurs/ Jewish Furs]<br /> *'''Pagan:''' <br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/paganfur/ Pagan Furry Community] <br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/furspirit/ Fur Spirit]<br /> * [http://community.livejournal.com/furryshamans/ Furry Shamans]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/soulshift/ Soulshift] (deleted September 2006)<br /> * [http://community.livejournal.com/atheistfurs Atheist Furs]<br /> <br /> == Sexuality and relationships ==<br /> * '''[[BDSM]]''': [http://community.livejournal.com/bound_paw/ Bound Paw]<br /> * [http://community.livejournal.com/bisexual_furs/ Bisexual Furs and Friends]<br /> *'''[[Gay]]:'''<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/gayfurries/ Gayfurries]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/furrybears/ Gay Bear Furries]<br /> * '''Lesbian and bisexual female''': [http://community.livejournal.com/sapphic_kin/ Sapphic Kin]<br /> <br /> * '''Relationship status''':<br /> ** '''Married''': [http://community.livejournal.com/marriedfurs/ Married Furs' Journal]<br /> ** '''Monogamy''': [http://community.livejournal.com/mono_furries/ Where Monogamous Furries Unite] <br /> ** '''[[Polyamory]]''': [[Poly furries]]: [http://community.livejournal.com/poly_furries/ Polyamorous Furries] <br /> ** '''Single''': [http://community.livejournal.com/singlefurs/ Singleton Furry Fans]<br /> <br /> *'''Straight:''' [[Straight Fur]]: [http://community.livejournal.com/straightfur/ Straight Fur] <br /> * '''[[Therian]]''': [http://community.livejournal.com/theriansex/ Therian Sexuality]<br /> * [http://community.livejournal.com/xenofetish/ Xenofetish]<br /> <br /> ==Species==<br /> *'''[[Avian]]s:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/featheries/ Featheries]<br /> <br /> *'''[[Bat]]s:'''<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/battyfriends/ Bat Fursuits Unite]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/bats/ Bat Lovers Unite!]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/nightwings/ Night Wings]<br /> <br /> *'''[[Canine]]s:'''<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/k9furs/ Canine Furries]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/wild_canines/ Wild Canines]<br /> <br /> *'''[[Dragon]]s:''' <br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/alfandria/ Alfandria]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/art_dragon/ Art Dragon]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/bad_dragon/ Bad Dragon]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/dracophilia/ Dracophilia]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/dragonnia/ Dragonnia]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/draconics/ Dragons on LiveJournal]<br /> <br /> *'''[[Equine]]s:'''<br /> **[http://community.livejournal.com/erotic_equine/ Erotic Equine]<br /> **[http://community.livejournal.com/equine_furs/ LJ Stables]<br /> <br /> *'''[[Feline]]s:'''<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/feline_art/ Feline Art]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/big_cat_anthros/ Big Cat Anthro Club @ LJ]<br /> **'''[[Chakat]]s:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/chakatheaven/ Chakat Heaven]<br /> **'''[[Lion]]s:'''<br /> *** [http://community.livejournal.com/lionessfurries/ Lioness furry club]<br /> *** [http://community.livejournal.com/lion_furs/ Lion Furs]<br /> **'''[[Tiger]]s''': [http://community.livejournal.com/tiger_furs/ Tiger Furs]<br /> <br /> *'''[[Ferret]]s:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/ferret_furs/ The Ferret Holt]<br /> <br /> *'''[[Fox]]es:'''<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/foxfurries/ Fox Furries] <br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/the_fox_kin/ The Fox Kin]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/kitsune_kin/ Kitsune-kin]<br /> <br /> *'''[[Gryphon]]s:''' <br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/bad_gryphon/ Bad Gryphon]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/gryphonerotica/ Gryphon Erotica]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/gryphonguild/ Gryphon Guild]<br /> <br /> *'''[[Kangaroo]]s:'''<br /> **[http://community.livejournal.com/kangaroos/ Kangaroos]<br /> **[http://community.livejournal.com/roo_paradise/ A Kangaroo's Paradise]<br /> <br /> *'''[[Meerkat]]s:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/meerkats/ International House Of Meerkats]<br /> <br /> *'''[[Raccoon]]s:''' <br /> **[http://community.livejournal.com/erotic_raccoon/ Erotic Raccoon]<br /> **[http://community.livejournal.com/raccoon_furs/ Furry Raccoons]<br /> <br /> *'''[[Rodent]]s:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/rodentfurs/ Rodent Furs Community]<br /> <br /> *'''[[Skunk]]s:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/skunkfurs/ Skunk Furs]<br /> <br /> *'''[[Wolf|Wolves]]:'''<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/true_werewolf/ True Werewolf]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/wolf_clan/ Wolf Clan]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/wolf_eyes/ Wolf Eyes]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/wolffoxnfolfy/ Wolf, Fox and Folfy]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/wolf_lovers/ Wolf Lovers]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/thewolfpack/ The Wolfpack]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/wolf_paws/ Wolf Paws]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/wolfspirits/ Wolf Spirits]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/wolvesmountain/ Wolves' Mountain]<br /> ** [http://community.livejournal.com/_wolf_art_/ Wolf Art]<br /> <br /> ==Traits==<br /> *'''Disabled:''' [[Furs On Wheels]]: [http://community.livejournal.com/furs_on_wheels/profile Furs on Wheels]<br /> *'''[[Female]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/furryfems/ Furry Fems]<br /> *'''[[Greymuzzle]] (over 30 years of age):''' [http://community.livejournal.com/greymuzzle/ Greymuzzles' Journal]<br /> *'''[[Lifestyler]]s:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/lifestylers/ Anthropomorphic Lifestyles Community]<br /> *[http://community.livejournal.com/musclefurs/ Muscle furries community]<br /> *'''Parents:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/furryparents/ Furry Parents]<br /> *'''Ravers:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/furryravers/ Furry Ravers]<br /> *'''[[Transgender]]ed:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/transfurry/ Transfurry Community]<br /> * '''Vegetarians:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/herbivores/ Furry Vegetarians LiveJournal (herbivores)]<br /> *'''Victims of abuse:''' [[Wounded Paws]]: [http://community.livejournal.com/woundedpaws/ Wounded Paws]<br /> <br /> ==Websites==<br /> <br /> *'''[[FurBid-SF]]''':<br /> **[http://community.livejournal.com/furbid/ FurBid]<br /> **[[Furbid Horrors]]: [http://community.livejournal.com/furbid_horrors/ FurBid horrors] <br /> *'''[[Internet Furry Proximity Locator]]''': [http://community.livejournal.com/ifpl/ IFPL]<br /> *'''[[pounced.org]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/pounced_horrors/ Pounced.org Horrors] (Deleted August 2005)<br /> * '''[[Sofawolf Press]]''': [http://sofawolf.livejournal.com/ The Sofawolf Press Journal]<br /> *'''[[WikiFur]]:''' [http://community.livejournal.com/wikifur/ WikiFur]<br /> <br /> == References ==<br /> &lt;references/&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> [[Category:Lists|LiveJournal communities, List of furry]][[Category:LiveJournal communities| ]]</div>

Graafen Blackpaw //en.wikifur.com/wiki/User_talk:GreenReaper 2007-03-21T17:47:39Z

<p>Graafen Blackpaw: /* WikiFur News linkage */</p> <hr /> <div>{{User talk:GreenReaper/Header}}&lt;!-- You probably want to add stuff at the bottom of this page --&gt;<br /> <br /> == Another Response ;) ==<br /> Heya GreenReaper. Thank you for you warm welcome here on thsi Wiki. Its my first, so i guess there will be a few questions once I worked myself through the Style-Code provided here.<br /> <br /> == Welcome Response September 12, 2006 ==<br /> <br /> Thank you, GreenReaper. I kinda stumbled across this site yesterday and decided to 1. Create an account and 2. Make my page. I was quite flattered to find my name listed in the DJ section of Rainbow Tiger's page, so I got my hooves wet and started a personal page. I'll try to keep it rated PG, but we'll have to see what happens. I'll have a placeholder up for a while with many ... many edits while I figure out the syntax.<br /> <br /> [[Heuvadoches Naumova]]<br /> <br /> == Welcome response ==<br /> <br /> You're welcome! I'll be sure to let you know if I need any help. =^.^= -[[User:Alfador|Alfador]]<br /> <br /> Thanks, GR. -- [[User:VederJuda|VederJuda]] 10:54, 26 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == [[PAINWOLF]] ==<br /> Name painwolf I need to talk to about my page.<br /> <br /> Contact Info:<br /> Yahoo and AIM: NL4PAINWOLF<br /> MSN: PAINWOLF@hotmail.com<br /> <br /> E-mails: PAINWOLF@gmail.com<br /> <br /> :''Replied'' --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 02:58, 28 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Norn ==<br /> <br /> Ok, so i guess the question is, why is there a norn running around on the furry edit link ... it seems to hide if I try to interact directly. Do you have more info? -- [[User:Mongoose|Amar Shadowpaws]] 14:25, 1 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I think his name is Hebe. He followed me over from the [[w:c:Creatures|Creatures Wiki]]. I've not had the time to catch him and release him back into [[w:c:Creatures:Albia|the wild]] yet. Besides, he likes to help out - he's done a good job at finishing off the stubs people leave around. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 18:04, 1 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Thanks for coming to lunch ==<br /> <br /> Here are my [http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Wikimania_Notes notes] from our lunch. We will start working hard to get more information out on where the features and bug fixes are going. I really appreciated your support and encouragement, not too mention chatting with you at dinner Thursday. &lt;br&gt; [http://world.wikia.com/wiki/User:Gil Gil]| &lt;small&gt;[http://world.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Gil talk]&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Response to Welcome==<br /> Just wanna say thanks for the greeting, I'll be sure to ask if I need help with anything ;)<br /> <br /> Thanks for greeting me. I had to make my own page look a little spiffier ya know? :D<br /> <br /> ==Thanks for cleaning up after me==<br /> I've been multitasking, so I'm a little scatterbrained at the moment. =^_^!= --[[User:Frizzy|Frizzy]] 05:37, 12 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> And me as well, thanks. Couldn't figure out why I couldn't get those wikipedia links working internally, o,O<br /> --[[User:Animakitty|Anima]] 18:24, 7 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Picture on commons ==<br /> Your lecture was very interesting. I have one more picture of you. See:<br /> *http://www.poli.toya.net.pl/Wikimania_2006_galeria/pages/100-0070_IMG.html<br /> Fill free to copy it if you want.<br /> <br /> Polimerek.<br /> <br /> :Thanks again! I'll do that. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 20:39, 12 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == infoboxes ? ==<br /> <br /> I copied [[Wikipedia:Template:Infobox Webcomic]] to [[Template:Infobox webcomic]] because I thought having webcomic infoboxes (such as the one at [[Wikipedia:Aozora]]) would be nice. The template partially works (example at [[User:EarthFurst]]). I'm guessing the rest of that template doesn't work because WikiFur doesn't have [[Template:If]] ? WP has [[Wikipedia:Template:If]]. --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 05:22, 14 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :According to [[User:Splarka|Splarka]], it's due to a problem with tables and parserfunctions on Wikia. He going to try fixing it . . . --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 05:34, 14 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Hmm, the infobox was working beautifully at [[TwoKinds]], but doesn't seem to be working now. I've posted question to wikia's Help desk on the matter http://www.wikia.com/index.php?title=Forum:Wikia_hiccup_%3F&amp;t=20060817035856 . I'm reverting [[TwoKinds]] until the error is resolved. I'll be re-checking [[User:EarthFurst]] to see when the infox starts working again. --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 05:03, 17 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Did you know? ==<br /> <br /> [[Rod O'Riley]]'s band [[Illegal Operation]] will be performing live as part of the furry programming track at this month's [[Worldcon]] in the Los Angeles area. Do you think it would be a reasonable use of the [[WikiFur:Did you know?|Did you know?]] box to add an entry for this to help draw attention to it? Thanks! --[[User:Frizzy|Frizzy]] 16:39, 15 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Don't see why not. That whole section could do with a full update. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 16:56, 15 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I just got some bad news that the concert event had to be cancelled due to issues out of their control, so I revised the entry. --[[User:Frizzy|Frizzy]] 05:33, 16 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Featured article ==<br /> <br /> It's fun to see that my bio is a Featured article now. That means both of my pages have gotten onto the front page.<br /> [[User:Fox Cutter|Fox Cutter]] 21:45, 16 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I know! This wasn't actually intentional - I only noticed after I featured it. It seemed to be a good pick, so it went up. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 21:52, 16 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Hi there! ==<br /> <br /> Thanks very much pal, if I need any help I know who to turn to now. ^^<br /> <br /> - Eric B.<br /> <br /> P.S. I'm sorry for posting this as an article, I really don't know how to respond to the comment you gave me. Well, maybe I need your help already. ^^;<br /> <br /> == RVDDP2501 ==<br /> <br /> Hey GreenReaper, Its been a while since I had last heard from you, hows things? Listen, I just wanted to say thanks for the reversion of the damaged done to one of my character pages, man, when will this stupidness stop, hope to hear from you - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 23:15, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Hi there. Things are good! The vandalism will continue, undoubtedly, to a greater or lesser extent, but we seem to be coping with it well enough. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 23:22, 23 August 2006 (UTC)''<br /> <br /> ::Hi GreenReaper, the upgrade was a pleasant surprise after that last bit of unpleasant business. Thanks! --[[User:Frizzy|Frizzy]] 04:06, 24 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == sorry for the previous post : ==<br /> <br /> Sorry for the post, I just wanted to report a raid that was headed your way.<br /> If i suspect a raid in the future where do you think i should report this too?<br /> :I had to check the article history to find the post you were referring to. At a guess, it was probably mistaken for link spam, which we get here fairly often. We do appreciate the efforts of people to notify us of attacks in the offing. For future reference, it would be helpful to include a couple of sentences saying what is to be found at the link. (By the way, when I tried the link just now I got a 'Thread Not Found' error - whatver had been there is gone now.) --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 07:58, 26 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Here is fine, although you could try the [[Forum:Index|forum]] as well. As for your post, someone else edited my user page to remove it, but I'd already read the thread before you posted it so that was OK. :-)<br /> <br /> :We get a lot of people planning stuff, but half of them never show up, and the rest turn out only to have 5 people or so. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 16:24, 26 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Incomming Raid Group!!! ==<br /> <br /> [[Image:Wikifur.png|left|frame|This is the [[WikiFur]] logo!]]<br /> <br /> Be On the lookout for the next few days please sir! --[[User:PaulRevere|PaulRevere]] 21:15, 28 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :It would be helpful if we had a link to the site where this came from so we could investigate further. --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 21:18, 28 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Oh, DeusEx again? He's been working on that for a while, as I recall. I guess we'll see if anything comes of it. We've coped quite well so far with a full bot attack, even when it was using a network of 600 proxies.<br /> <br /> :It's cute the way they seem to think using Í will stop google indexing their site, let alone the &quot;totally inept&quot; part. So far it's about 10-0 on successful &quot;organized&quot; raids. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 21:35, 28 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::That reminds me - did we ever implement a &quot;panic button&quot; - something any of the admins could use in an emergency to block all updates if a major vandalism/bot attack were in progress? If there is an easy way to protect the entire site to sysop only, that would probably suffice. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 21:43, 28 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Like a &quot;Lock-down&quot; script? [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 22:09, 28 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::More like a &quot;restrict edits to group X&quot; script, though locking the DB might be a reasonable first step. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 22:17, 28 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: You know, we need to write an app to have a [[User:Nidonocu#Score_Board|Score Board]] like what Nidonocu has. --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 21:45, 28 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::I edit that manually you know. ;) Though I agree a panic page would be useful. --[[User:Nidonocu|Nidonocu]] - [[User talk:Nidonocu|talk]] [[Image:Trans 168.png|16px|Nidonocu]] 23:20, 28 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Oh Gods ^-^ or a [[Wikipedia:DHS|DHS]]'s like [[Wikipedia:Homeland_Security_Advisory_System|Security Advisory System]],... &quot;Today's Threat Level is &quot;Fluffy,&quot; with some chances of /b/tards in the afternoon.&quot; [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 22:09, 28 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::sorry duesX or whatever your name is, I'm almost finished with my &quot;vandalism vaccine&quot; project. so nless you can get it in before that's done, you're just wasting your time working on a program that won't work... : ) [[User:CchristianTehWazzit|- cchristian]]<br /> <br /> == Removing a name on &quot;People&quot;. ==<br /> <br /> Hello there! i am Crowe Basalt, and previously, i did go by &quot;Grimmutt&quot;. i edited an article on &quot;Grimmutt&quot;, but, as i am going back to only using the &quot;Crowe Basalt&quot; name, i'd like to have &quot;Grimmutt&quot;'s page removed.<br /> <br /> thank you! {{unsigned|Crowebasalt}}<br /> <br /> :Hi there, Crowe, and welcome back to WikiFur! The best way to go about that is usually to move the article, as that preserves the original history. I will fix that up later tonight when I get home. Do you wish us to keep the information about your character Grimmutt as a separate section on the page about you, or should I remove it and just mention that you used to go by the name? --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 22:40, 30 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Alternative to page protection ==<br /> <br /> Hey, this is Carrie Pika.<br /> <br /> Is there any way I can get this page locked so it shows only this? I don't want anyone adding personal information about me without my knowledge, so I'd like to have it left at just this.<br /> <br /> Thanks~ {{unsigned|CarriePika}}<br /> <br /> :We can probably do that. You could also just put your email into your [[Special:Preferences|user preferences]] and then click the Watch tab, so it will tell you whenever someone edits so that you can check it out. Which would you prefer? --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 23:35, 30 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Oh, that'd work great, actually! I'll go ahead and do that. Thanks! {{unsigned|CarriePika}}<br /> <br /> :Excellentage. Enjoy WikiFur. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 04:44, 31 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == And thanks to you. ==<br /> <br /> I do appreciate the clean-up of my page, and the separation of the book summary. Many thanks! You guys do an amazing job here. - Alicia<br /> <br /> :You're welcome. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 21:37, 1 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == something to be very angry ==<br /> <br /> I wrote an article and someone, german wrote me this:<br /> <br /> &quot;Meine Fresse, ich hab noch nie so ein BESCHISSENES ENGLISCH gelesen. Kauf dir mal ein verdammtes Leben!!&quot; <br /> <br /> In a free translation it's:&quot;Damn I've never read such a shitty english. Buy a damn life&quot;<br /> Well maybe my english isn't taht good but is it necessary to write the comment in this way? Without an name or anything else. <br /> <br /> I think you're not able to find out who did it are you?<br /> <br /> And so maybe you could delete my account and the article about me. because I don't want to be a part of something like this. Sorry and thanks for the chocolat. ^^ {{unsigned|Andraste}}<br /> <br /> :That comment [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Andraste&amp;action=history was made] by a person with the IP address [[User:89.48.235.195|89.48.235.195]]. They are obviously not a regular user, otherwise they would indeed have signed their comment - and made the edit with a registered account. That edit to the talk page was their [[Special:Contributions/89.48.235.195|only contribution so far]]. There is therefore little to say about them, other than that their IP address resolved to the name &quot;Lebc3.l.pppool.de&quot; - probably a dialup account in Germany.<br /> <br /> :I would suggest you pay as much attention to you as someone who posts once on a forum anonymously to insult you, never having contributed to that forum before - that is, precisely no attention at all. If your English is not the best, so what? You are German! The fact that you can write English at all is better than most English people could do with German. If they thought the article was bad, the anonymous editor should have fixed it rather than complained about it. And, in fact, many others did. :-)<br /> <br /> :In the last day [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Andraste&amp;action=history several edits] by at least four other people have been made to the article about you (perhaps you made a link to it from somewhere else?). I would ask that you consider '''those''' edits to be an example of what WikiFur is, and not the anonymous commenter - who, I would note, could not even manage to put their ''own'' comment in English. We have [[WikiFur:No personal attacks|a policy against personal attacks]], and any regular contributor would know better than to make such a comment. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 17:59, 3 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Recategorization of [[List of convention acronyms]] ==<br /> <br /> I don't see why this fits better with [[:Category:Convention terms]] than [[:Category:Conventions]] when it seems to fit the Conventions cat just as well as [[List of furs who were married at a furry con]] or [[List of conventions by attendance]] (both of which are in [[:Category:Conventions]]), since like those two, its a sort of comparison/reference list between different conventions, as opposed to Category:Convention terms which seems to be a list of general terms used within a convention. --[[User:Chibiabos|Chibiabos]] 21:12, 9 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :OK. Change it back if you wish. My view was that an acronym was a convention term, but I can can see your side too. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 23:59, 9 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Wikifur now adversarial? ==<br /> <br /> I've read with interest the discussion on Sibe, specifically your comment:<br /> <br /> ''That is why I am opposed to the removal of the article in whole - because what he has done deserves remembering. It is our business, because Sibe has been bothering us as a community.''<br /> <br /> Does this mean Wikifur will not be so much as a source of neutral information, but that Wikifur will now become adversarial in relations to information about people who you (singularly or collectively) believe have wronged Furry? Do you feel that it's now your job/right/reponsibility to punish these people by using Wikifur as a &quot;bully pulpit&quot;?<br /> <br /> I hope this isn't the case. Wikifur, despite a healthy dose of pro-Furry slobbery, has been a respectable source of neutral information.<br /> <br /> :You'd have to put that question to the wider community for a full answer, as it's a question about where they want WikiFur to go. I'm one of the editors leading the project, but there are others. Still, I can provide some explanation, and the answer I would give is basically &quot;no, but we're not going to go out of our way to do such people any favours either.&quot;<br /> <br /> :The information on the individuals itself ''should'' unquestionably be neutral and factual (no, this doesn't always happen, and if you see a problem, please explain why and fix it). The only choice we have been making in some cases is whether or not to ''remove'' that neutral information (or some of it) on request, per the [[WikiFur:Personal information|personal information policy]]. This might well ''not'' be a neutral decision, because this is a community made up of members of the furry fandom, and as it is our website it is up to us to decide whether or not that is appropriate. Ultimately our role is to serve the best interests of the fandom, and that generally means trying not to hurt those who are or have been worthwhile members of it. We may care less about the possibility of hurting other people.<br /> <br /> :If a person is just a regular member of the fandom - maybe well-regarded, maybe just &quot;one of the gang&quot;, then people tend not to fuss too much if they want to remove personal information - and if they have not really done all that much special, that might include the entire article about them (if not, then references to them might remain in other articles). If an individual has, over time, given the community a significant amount of grief, they are likely to say &quot;no, this person is just trying to hide from the problems they have caused&quot; and deny the request. In short, if they've had no respect for our community, then we as a community are likely to have as little respect for them. That is why exclusions that may be contentious go to talk pages - so that the community can decide what to do in that particular situation.<br /> <br /> :These sorts of situation are fortunately pretty rare. In Sibe's case, though, his &quot;bothering&quot; was widely commented-on, were intimately connected to his person (not any external group), and occured over a long period of time. If WikiFur is recording furry history, it makes little sense to exclude him, particularly given that he has shown no reticence (or regret) on occasion over detailing the lives of others where it suited ''him''. We're perfectly aware that he doesn't like it being up there, but over time he's pissed off enough people in the fandom that few seem to care about what he feels anymore.<br /> <br /> :The thing is, all we have to do is say the truth. His own actions are what comdemn him. We don't even need to say they were bad. If telling the truth about someone makes them look bad in the eyes of the reader, then it's a fair bet that they deserve it.<br /> <br /> :This situation of information removal based on respect does not really apply to groups, whatever the standing of the group in the community. I would not support removing the history of the [[Burned Furs]], for example, or that of [[Sociopolitical Ramifications]], or [[FurryMUCK]], because these are important groups that have had a historical impact on the fandom. Maybe if it was a really small and personal group that hasn't . . . again, that'd be discussed on the appropriate talk pages.<br /> <br /> One final question: why is it so common to list the real names of people who've had adversarial relations with furry but not with those individuals considered friendly to the fandom? Why are real names included at all?<br /> <br /> :There might be various reasons for the inclusion of real names. For some people, their real name is just one item of information about them, such as the colour of their character's fur. Other people might not '''have''' nicknames that are well-known within the fandom (but really, this applies as much if not more to people &quot;friendly to the fandom&quot; as to others). In that case, it seems appropriate to use their real name, just as we tend to use the real name of artists that have used it as their identifier in the fandom.<br /> <br /> :In some cases, there may have been a good reason to find out the real name of a person, particularly if it might allow members of the furry fandom to more easily identify a person who is using a variety of nicknames or even their real name in a different venue (we can't say &quot;go look at Laurence's posts in forum X&quot; without telling them who Laurence is). It might also be that people are just more inclined to include the real names of people that they don't like, in the hope that others outside the fandom will see what that person is like. This is not ideal editing, but if the person concerned doesn't request the removal of their name, it will not be changed - the article will be reworded to be based solely on facts if possible, or removed if not.<br /> <br /> :The question perhaps shouldn't be &quot;why are real names included at all&quot;, but &quot;why aren't real names included for everyone?&quot;. Ultimately, aritcles should be under the name which people would link to, and so that is the only name that '''has''' to be there. In the furry fandom, this is more often than not the person's fan name, if they have one. They may only use this name, or they may use their real name as well. If so, people may or may not decide to add it, but it's not considered critical if it's not usually used. Even if a person's real name ''is'' regularly used, in general we will on request remove a person's real name and replace it with their fan name/nickname when describing them, whether or not they are/have been members of the fandom. However, members of the fandom are a) more likely to request this, becuase more of them come here, b) are (slightly) more likely to have such a request accepted (because if non-members are listed here it is usually because they are either famous or infamous, not just because they're furry), and c) are more likely to have such nicknames to use in the first place (we can't exactly say &quot;The comic Fuzzy Things, authored by {blank} . . .&quot;).<br /> <br /> :I'm aware this answer was rather long and rambling, but that's because I'm tired, and it's a complicated issue when talking in general. If you have specific cases you want explained, feel free to point them out. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 02:29, 13 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::GreenReaper, in response to your reply, I have added comments to two talk sections, Sibe and Burned Fur, pointing out what I see as an unfair biasing. I'm interested in your reply on both. <br /> <br /> ::There's also one other possible point on Sibe that you might want to run by an attorney, since the status of Wiki's as &quot;legitimate publications&quot; is still in legal limbo: Sibe is legally a &quot;private figure&quot; and his actions in Furry do not make him, in the legal sense, a &quot;public figure&quot; (both of these are legal terms). As a private individual, he's afforded certain legal protections about what information can be revealed. These protections may or may not cover his criminal record or other information. I think it would be worth your time to consult with someone from the EFF and make sure you haven't crossed the line. While you say that you're just one editor, if no other person can over-rule your edits without your consent, it's your &quot;publication&quot;. As such, even if Sibe were to decide to come after Wikifur ''et al'' for any damages the publication of protected information caused him (if any such protections exist at all), you'd still be on the line. Again, the law regarding this may or may not cover him.<br /> <br /> :::I agree (unlike some) that Sibe is a private figure, and as such someone ''might'' be liable if we were negligent in publishing made-up facts, even if we did not act with the knowledge that they were false (or with reckless disregard as to whether or not they were false). For example, if we said that the Burned Furs burned people, that would be libel without good evidence. However, a glance at the talk page archives and article history should show you that we have been willing to work with concerned parties to ensure the accuracy of the article, and to obtain exact sources for assertions where appropriate. We have no interest in being negligent (and certainly not grossly negligent), because that makes for a poor article.<br /> <br /> :::In contrast, the limitations on information that is actually ''true'' are really quite small, and in general don't apply to us as a private site. I'm not a lawyer, but this situation has come up before and so I've done some research. Criminal records are public information in the State of Washington (and generally speaking in other states). Most other privacy legislation is aimed at restricting what companies can tell third parties about their customers (who they have a contract with), and not about what individuals (who never agreed to any contract) may publish from their own knowledge. The [[Wikipedia:First Amendment to the United States Constitution|First Amendment]] gives us rather sweeping powers in this area that allow us to publish just about anything as long as it is true, and in practice the &quot;due process&quot; terms of the [[Wikipedia:Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution|Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution|Fourteenth Amendment]] extends this to the states as well. Credit card numbers, social security numbers and driver's license number would probably be stuff that should be removed. Other than that, it's pretty much fair game and up to the community to decide what it ''should'' publish, in a moral sense.<br /> <br /> :::[[Wikia:Wikia, Inc.|Wikia]] is able to overrule my edits without my consent. If people feel I'm not doing a good enough job, or that WikiFur is infringing their rights, they should contact them. They have more experience than I do, and I am willing to defer to them. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 19:52, 15 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Hi, Peace from AU ==<br /> Hello, my name is D. Coldheartt. I am the head admin of the Alternative Universe wiki which is also pretty big. I am a big fan of, well furry stuff and creatures and animals so i decided to join here. I was wondering if i could also become a administrator here if at all possib;e. [[User:D. Coldheartt|D. Coldheartt]] 23:44, 12 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : Admin status is generally given to users who have a history of contributing to the wiki. If you're interested in becoming an admin, we recommend following [[Special:Recentchanges]] and contributing to/cleaning up articles, dealing with vandalism, etc.<br /> : I'm curious about this Alternate Universe wiki that you mentioned. Typing &quot;Alternate Universe wiki&quot; into Google [http://www.google.com/search?num=100&amp;hl=en&amp;lr=&amp;safe=off&amp;q=%22Alternative+Universe+wiki%22&amp;btnG=Search brings up zero matches]. [http://www.google.com/search?num=100&amp;hl=en&amp;lr=&amp;safe=off&amp;q=%22Alternative+Universe%22+wiki&amp;btnG=Search A slightly more liberal search] did not help me find it either. Did I misspell or typo something? --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 00:22, 13 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> The AU has actually been down for quite some time and replaced with Vandal Manifest Editthis Wiki. [[User:D. Coldheartt|D. Coldheartt]] 00:24, 13 September 2006 (UTC) WikiTV started at Revived Haven Editthis and moved on to Meta Wiki. Jimbos one of the users alowed into revived haven. [[User:D. Coldheartt|D. Coldheartt]] 00:24, 13 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;q=%22Vandal+Manifest%22&amp;btnG=Google+Search Googling for Vandal Manifest] does not turn up anything.<br /> : [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;q=%22Revived+Haven%22&amp;btnG=Google+Search Googling for Revived Haven] does not turn up anything, either.<br /> : I'm sensing a pattern here. --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 00:32, 13 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: And he first [[:Special:Contributions/D._Coldheartt|spammed a bunch of the admins]] to ask for admin privileges. --[[User:Frizzy|Frizzy]] 00:39, 13 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Heres the link: to VM, http://editthis.info/vandal_manifest/Main_Page a former vandal war site but now good. Ignore the messages the page their is called WikiTV. [[User:D. Coldheartt|D. Coldheartt]] 00:35, 13 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::None of the pages are available for viewing without a password [[User:63.204.227.202|63.204.227.202]] 00:46, 13 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Please ignore [[User:D. Coldheartt]], it is a swfanon sockpuppeter and general wikia attention spammer. Usernames include: Alacaster Torn, The Vanguard, ThatLittleMidget, Proffesor Mephisto, Black Dawn, Licorice ... --[[w:User:Splarka|Splarka]] &lt;small&gt;([[w:User_talk:Splarka|talk]])&lt;/small&gt; 01:47, 13 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Well cheers for the welcome! ==<br /> <br /> Just thought I'd drop by and say thanks for the welcome - wasn't expecting that! Been using this site as a resourse for a good while now so I thought it was only right to inflict a little of myself on here.<br /> <br /> [[Werewolf Of London]]<br /> <br /> == Hey hey ==<br /> <br /> Well I had some problems with creating the article of our new Polish Furries forum and website, but I'm good now.<br /> <br /> Say would t be a problem for you to place an info about http://furry.wikia.com/wiki/Polska_Strefa_Furry on the main page? {{unsigned|TerrisRacoon}}<br /> <br /> :I will update our [[WikiFur:Did you know?|Did you know?]] section on the front page, and include a link to that page, as it is interesting to know about new forums.<br /> <br /> :Oh, and a couple of tips - you should not remove a message on a talk page after you have saved it - it should be left on the page so that the person can reply. Otherwise there is no record, and it looks as if there has been no message, which is confusing when the window pops up saying &quot;you have new messages&quot;. :-) Also, you can sign your name on Talk: pages with this: &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt;. It gives this sort of result: --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 08:32, 14 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Furry gaming project...? ==<br /> <br /> Seeing as how Wikipedia has a project that concetrates on improving the quality and quantity of gaming articles, may I suggest implementing a similiar project? The amount of games with furry elements is not a small one, and it would be very helpful, if information about those games (most are old, PC DOS titles, which run perfectly under DosBox) was included in one place, for sake of completeness and subject coverage. <br /> <br /> Especially games like [[Project Nomad]] could use that coverage, as they have literally truckloads of content, and it would be helpful to store it in one place, much like [[Albion (video game)|Albion]]'s articles are done.<br /> <br /> Just a thought.<br /> <br /> Oh, and what is the general stance about making articles about oneself? Mikael Grizzly 22:30, 14 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Seems like a nice enough idea. We already have [[WikiFur:Project Fursuit Central|something similar]] for [[fursuit]]ing, although that's been slow recently. The trouble is there are few &quot;meta&quot;-editors at this time, and so you may find it hard to gather contributors to help you out. I would suggest that you concentrate on one or two particular projects at a time so that it doesn't bog down in needing to do 10 different things at once. :-) <br /> <br /> :Articles about yourself are fine as long as they are neutrally written, like any other article. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 04:19, 15 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Need help putting up an article ==<br /> <br /> I want to put up an essay that's under the GNU Free Docement Lisence, and I want to ask for a little bit of tips on how to do it before I actually do it. Or even how I'm suppose to do it. --[[User:Foxpaws-zupe|Foxpaws]] 00:52, 15 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Could you be more specific about what you're trying to do? If you have a GFDL essay from another place, then in general it's fine to just copy it here into a new page as long as you give attribution for the people who wrote it (for example, with Wikipedia you would link to the history page) and preferably link back to the original source. Of course, it would have to fit the topic of the wiki, and be neutral in tone. If it was not neutral (whether or not you wrote it), you should probably avoid putting it in the main namespage - it should go a subpage of your User: space - e.g [[User:Foxpaws-zupe/Article name]] - and it should have a note up at the top similar to that of the [[:Template:personal-article|personal-article template]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 04:22, 15 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Hey! I'll be alright, I guess. I'll fix the entries up s'more later.<br /> <br /> I should remember to tag that 'minor edit' box more often. *nods*<br /> <br /> Thank you<br /> <br /> == Hi and thankies ==<br /> <br /> Hi and thank you for this brill site {{unsigned|Fox92}}<br /> <br /> == Happy Birthday! ==<br /> <br /> *24 wolftytailswat-spankings!* --[[User:Chibiabos|Chibiabos]] 03:45, 20 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Im sorry for the late reply, but thank you for welcoming me ==<br /> <br /> Im afraid I am not use to this place yet and still have a long way to go on it. But im glad that hospitality is shown here ^_^<br /> <br /> From [[Duragan]] {{unsigned|Duragan}}<br /> <br /> == All Fur Fun now has official dates! ==<br /> <br /> Hi there! Could you please edit the convention area to show that [[All Fur Fun]] will be held March 31 - April 1, 2007? Thanks much! :D<br /> <br /> --[[User:Teeka|Teeka]] 01:11, 29 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Done, and I hope you guys have fun! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 01:52, 29 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Nah~ ==<br /> <br /> Just tell me if I should remove the images. They are censored though, but you still see enough~ {{unsigned|Garyu}}<br /> <br /> == Vandalism ==<br /> <br /> Hey GreenReaper, thanks for repairing the damage to my page as well as other I may not know about - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 20:26, 29 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :You're welcome! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 20:30, 29 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Spam cleanup script ==<br /> <br /> I have no idea if that was a valid spam cleanup script or if it was an elaborately created vandalism technique, but either way, it was blanking whole pages rather than just removing &quot;spam&quot; links (which weren't actually spam), so I blocked it temporarily. Feel free to unblock it if it isn't actually something trying to erase the whole Wiki. ;3 [[User:SpazKitty|Spaz Kitty]] 02:42, 5 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Higgs Raccoon ==<br /> <br /> May I nominate [[User_talk:Higgs Raccoon|Higgs Raccoon]] for upgrading to admin? In addition to contributing to numerous articles, he's helped revert vandalism on more than one occasion. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 15:07, 6 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Let's try that out, then. [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&amp;limit=500&amp;target=Higgs_Raccoon Contributions] are a little low (and lacking discussion edits), but they '''are''' all good, and it's not like there aren't a couple of admins with fewer. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 15:27, 6 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Well, this is quite an honour. Thankyou Mwalimu for the nomination, and GreenReaper for OKing it. Quite unexpected, really - as noted above, I haven't been here very long and haven't contributed a lot as yet. Hopefully the whole Wikifur novelty won't suddenly wear off. Oh well, if that happens I guess what GreenReaper giveth he can also taketh away! ;) --[[User:Higgs Raccoon|Higgs Raccoon]] 10:13, 7 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Technically, no - I have to go to Wikia for that. That's why I don't generally give it out without recommendation. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 22:46, 7 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Vandalism War! ==<br /> <br /> A user going by the name of [[User:Arwel Parry]] is vandalizing a number of pages right now! I'd reverting edits as fast as I can. Always happy to help! --[[User:Robomilk|Tori]] 11:18, 7 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Fixed vandalism with [[User:Arcturus]] --[[User:Robomilk|Tori]] 11:33, 7 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Where you be on Eye Arr Cee? ==<br /> <br /> *cough* Um.. ignore the poor rhyming, just wondering where you is as I've snuck back to the IRC channel the last few days and haven't seen you on at all. o.O --[[User:Nidonocu|Nidonocu]] - [[User talk:Nidonocu|talk]] [[Image:Trans 168.png|16px|Nidonocu]] 20:24, 8 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> :...Now I see your note, make it '''bigger''' next time. X) --[[User:Nidonocu|Nidonocu]] - [[User talk:Nidonocu|talk]] [[Image:Trans 168.png|16px|Nidonocu]] 20:30, 8 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == SilvrWingsDragon ==<br /> <br /> He! Its me, Carrie, from Anthrocon. I tickled you, remember? And I think I had the pupper fox plushie. :) Whats up?<br /> <br /> You can, btw, reach me at AminElea@aol.com<br /> <br /> :Hi there! I do indeed remember . . . *hides*<br /> <br /> :I'm doing fairly well - indeed, I just went to [http://conclavesf.org another convention] last weekend (which I need to actually write about sometime this week). I'll try and contact you when I get back home - still busy at work right now. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 21:39, 10 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Furcadia origins? ==<br /> <br /> I am not trying to be a pain in the rear here, but I wonder about the claim on the furcadia article that says that it has been around since 1996. I was following this stuff back in the late nineties and I was pretty surprised to hear that. Wolfhome was one of the first websites featuring multi-user chat and I don't remember furcadia.com being around. We were running a company by 2000. While I didn't do an exhaustive search, I am surprised that a furry chat site that would have been a direct competitor to Wolfhome escaped me. Wolfhome started on Gre7g Luterman's site, TempleOfLuna.com, back on October 31st, 1999.<br /> <br /> The other thing that I discovered is that the whois record for Furcadia.com was created in 1999 (see below). Add to that a web search on the &quot;Wayback Machine&quot; http://web.archive.org, which tracks websites back to the mid nineties, which shows that in 1999, furcadia.com was a placeholder site:<br /> <br /> http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://furcadia.com<br /> <br /> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /> <br /> Here's that whois record:<br /> <br /> Registrant:<br /> DRAGON'S EYE PRODUCTIONS, INC.<br /> 767 Sam Bass Rd<br /> Round Rock, TX 78680-1048<br /> US<br /> <br /> Domain Name: FURCADIA.COM<br /> <br /> Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:<br /> DRAGON'S EYE PRODUCTIONS, INC. sanct@furcadia.com<br /> 767 Sam Bass Rd<br /> Round Rock, TX 78680-1048<br /> US<br /> +358407672478 fax: +358427672478<br /> <br /> <br /> Record expires on 03-Feb-2011.<br /> Record created on 03-Feb-1999.<br /> Database last updated on 10-Oct-2006 21:10:34 EDT.<br /> <br /> Domain servers in listed order:<br /> <br /> NS.FURCADIA.COM 72.36.220.234<br /> NS2.FURCADIA.COM 72.36.220.239<br /> <br /> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /> <br /> None of that is meant to take away from the current success of furcadia, but I wonder what supports the claim that they were running a website back in 1996?<br /> <br /> Here's the web archive for templeofluna.com:<br /> <br /> http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://templeofluna.com<br /> <br /> BTW, thanks for providing this great site focusing on the Furry community!<br /> <br /> [[User:Wunderwood|underdog]]<br /> <br /> :Hi there, underdog! The claim is that they were running Furcadia (the client-based MMO experience) since 1996, not Furcadia.com (the website), and I think it is substantiated by [http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.furry/browse_frm/thread/46c69d49b74b57d0 this thread] from May 1999 in which Dr. Cat states in passing that it &quot;opened two and a half years ago&quot;. There is also [http://web.archive.org/web/19981205041337/www.realtime.net/furcadia/ this website (www.realtime.net/furcadia)] from December 1998, at which point they appear to already have had 400,000 visits.<br /> <br /> :As for the website - you're welcome! I didn't exactly do it by myself, though - you can [http://wikia.com/wikistats/EN/TablesWikiaFURRY.htm#wikipedians thank the people here], along with the hundreds of other editors for filling it with content. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 02:48, 11 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Ah, ok.. I read that wrong ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for the clarification. I had interpreted that pretty narrowly before. {{Unsigned|Wunderwood}}<br /> <br /> == Hiya there ==<br /> <br /> yeah, I found that I had a page to edit and submit info to, and thanks for the help offer. Ill be editing when I can, and look forward to contributing here. :3 {{unsigned|Zippo}}<br /> <br /> == Wikipedia's techniques on trolls ==<br /> <br /> Wikipedia usually reverts banned troll's comments and semi-protects pages. It works better. [[User:Tretonin|Tretonin]] 10:51, 13 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :It works for their situation. We have to make our own decisions and see how they work out. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 21:43, 14 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == From Buska ==<br /> <br /> Hi and thanks for the welcome! I tried creating my own page as well. I really need to study the Wiki format a bit more however ^^ {{unsigned|Buska}}<br /> <br /> == RE:Page name correction ==<br /> <br /> Hey GreenReaper, thanks for the move, I will try not to make mistakes like that in the future - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 00:26, 20 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :No worries. We make them too, sometimes. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 00:29, 20 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Hey GreenReaper, I was wondering if you could perform another page name edit, could you add an &quot;s&quot; to my Remalon page turning it into &quot;Remalons&quot; (since there are five characters in that page), I would really appreciate it, thank you - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 18:20, 22 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Once again, thanks - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 18:26, 22 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Extinctioners main page fixing ==<br /> <br /> Hey GreenReaper, sorry to drop questions on a regular basis but I was wondering if you might know or see a way to modify or re-arrange the list of groups in the Extinctioner's main page, to some how make it appear more neat, thank you - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 18:17, 20 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == I have readed that you use Openbsd to host the wiki ==<br /> <br /> Hello Greenreaper, thanks for your work on this Furry Wiki, I am trying to install mediawiki on openbsd, but can not login on mediawiki, can you help me? after i have logged in sucessfully, then i try to use the preferences page and it say that i am not logged in<br /> <br /> thanks in advance. {{unsigned|Aureliof}}<br /> <br /> :I'm afraid I don't really have any idea why that is not working for you, other than that possibly you do not have sessions or cookies setup properly in your browser or web server. I do not administrate the server side of WikiFur, and so I know little of the details of hosting it. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 08:16, 21 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == DAMN YOU!!! ==<br /> <br /> You ALLWAYS seem to be around to delete my...um...helpful changes no matter what time and what wiki I'm hitting :(<br /> <br /> WHY?????????????????? {{unsigned|88.106.208.18}}<br /> <br /> :Because I'm everywhere - I'm like the wind . . . --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 20:32, 21 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == That was odd ==<br /> <br /> I see that earlier today you blocked User:216.224.121.151. It struck me as odd that there have also been a couple of good edits from the very similar address User:216.224.121.141 (knowing that sometimes a vandal who gets blocked will simply switch to a different workstation, which often has a very similar IP; this time, however, that did not appear to be the case).<br /> <br /> Then I tried to make a couple of edits, while logged in, and was told that I couldn't because my IP address, 216.224.121.151, has been blocked. I found this really odd, since I was logged in, I have admin privs, and on top of it all, the IP address of the machine I connect from doesn't look anything like that (and just to be sure, I checked with http://www.whatismyip.com/ ). I retried a couple of times, and my edit finally took - not sure what changed, but there you go.<br /> <br /> Then finally, I ran nslookup on 216.224.121.151, and it returned ut4.sjc.wikia-inc.com. I tried 216.224.121.141 and it returned cache1.sjc.wikia-inc.com. Curioser and curioser. Is there something funky going on at wikia.com that's causing incoming edits to look like they came from their server instead of the actual originating user or IP address? --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 18:57, 25 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :It does indeed seem odd. I've also recieved two separate messages about this from other users. Unblocked this for now. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 19:26, 25 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: I got a response from John Q. over on the Wikia mailing list saying that this is fixed/will be fixed shortly. --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 00:25, 26 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: Hmm. Maybe not quite fixed yet, I had trouble getting that edit to go through... --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 00:29, 26 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thanks for the welcome ^^ ==<br /> <br /> Hey, thanks for the welcome to WikiFur. This is my first time actually registering for a Wiki community, so it'll be a learning experience, but I'm looking forward to adding what I can, when I can. Oh, question -- how do I reply to things on my Talk page? {{unsigned|IanKeith}}<br /> <br /> :Welcome to wiki, then, too. :-) You can reply to others in the way you did just now. You should generally sign your names when on talk pages, though, so that people know who left the message without going to the history. You can use &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt; for this, or just &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt; if you don't want the date. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 02:54, 26 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == timeline tag ==<br /> <br /> Hi. I just solve timeline bug and you can use it again --[[User:Inez|Inez]] 10:10, 27 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Thank you, Inez! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 12:47, 27 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == NO CARRIER ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for cleaning up after my messes. :) I'll get the wiki standards hammered through my thick skull eventually!&lt;br&gt;<br /> -[[User:Furvert|Furv]]<br /> <br /> == How to do bot vandal rollbacks ==<br /> <br /> In cases of mass vandalism (page blanking and the like) it is acceptable to use the &quot;bot&quot; rollback method. To do this, go to the user's contribution page by clicking their name or IP address in the userlist, then add &amp;bot=1 to the URL (or ?bot=1 if there is no ? already in the URL). Press enter to reload that URL, and then just open all the rollback links in new tabs. This will give the initial edit a &quot;bot&quot; flag, so that only your revert will be visible in [[Special:Recentchanges|recent changes]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 19:04, 27 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Okay, I'll do it that way next time. By the way, when responding to a user talk comment like this, is there a way to have the thread automatically replicated in the other user's talk page? I've always done it by manually copying the response in both places. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 19:09, 27 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Not that I know of. Would be nice! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 19:11, 27 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> 'twas fun playing with you furries. --[[User:149.9.0.27|149.9.0.27]] 19:23, 27 October 2006 (UTC) =)<br /> <br /> == more vandalism ==<br /> <br /> Hey GreenReaperm, were getting vandalized including the front page! - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 14:16, 28 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> : O NOES VANDALISM @_@ --[[User:85.214.66.61|85.214.66.61]] 14:23, 28 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> WERE UNDER ATTACK! - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 22:01, 28 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Chinmyou ==<br /> Thanks for the welcome. X3<br /> [[User:Chinmyou|Chinmyou]] 06:06, 29 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Extinctioners Wikipedia page deletion threat again ==<br /> <br /> Hey GreenReaper, Sorry to constantly bother you but I just saw on the talk page of the Wikipedia.org Extinctioners page that it will be coming under a deletion threat within several days claiming wikifur IS NOT a reliable source (yeah right), here is the link to the page - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Extinctioners - I hope it will not be removed, I don't understand it, they have pages for other furry comics but they seem the think this one is not worthy but if you think its not worth fighting over, I will understand, thank you - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 13:16, 30 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Unfortunately, WikiFur ''isn't'' a reliable source, at least not in Wikipedia's terms. Someone could come by and change anything at any time. Articles are not guaranteed to be peer-reviewed - indeed, there is no particularly certainty that information on WikiFur has been checked by anyone. Contributions are, in many cases, anonymous. If you want to have an article at Wikipedia, you need to give proper references to the primary sources (the comics themselves), or to secondary sources that have been published in some kind of guaranteed editorially-reviewed medium, like a comic review in a published [[fanzine]] (or better).<br /> <br /> :Consider: You wrote most of the pages on WikiFur about the comic. Who's to say you weren't making up half of the stuff you wrote? You can see their situation - they can't just rely on your words for its accuracy. It is not that it is a furry comic. It is the entire article is your original creation, and you've not backed it up with links that show the source of the facts that you state. Go look at [[Wikipedia:Samuel Conway|this article]] for an example of what I mean. There are probably worse articles, but that does not excuse the one about ''Extinctioners''. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 05:12, 31 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Thank you, I appreciate what you have told me and I finally can see where wikipedia is coming from, I will leave this decision in the hands of those at Wikipedia (since I am unable to try and fight for it to remain again) and just continue with the one here, thanks for your help :-) - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 23:48, 31 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Redirecting articles? ==<br /> <br /> I was poking around in the Templates section to see how I could re-direct a link that currently goes nowhere to an article that is relevant. I wanted to link &quot;Ace of Spades&quot; and &quot;Morrigan's War&quot; to the &quot;Empires&quot; article but could not see a way to do it..? Thank you. {{unsigned|Kette' Barona}}<br /> <br /> :To do that, go to the pages [[Ace of Spades]] and [[Morrigan's War]] and put &lt;nowiki&gt;#REDIRECT [[Empires]]&lt;/nowiki&gt; in there. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 02:22, 1 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == FA and such ==<br /> <br /> I just wanted to apologize, again-- though I guess to you directly-- for what I did the other day. I was responding more as damage control to prevent an explosion of drama rather than following the guidelines stipulated. This whole thing, though not directly affecting me, has seemed to've killed my patience and thinking. Thankfully it's cleared up now.<br /> <br /> It won't happen again. [[User:Verix|Verix]] 17:57, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :It's understandable. No worries. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 19:12, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Uploading avatar pic quesion ==<br /> <br /> Hey GreenReaper, sorry to bug you but I have a question, there is a pic I would like to use as my avatar (or fursona if thats what its called), I have gotten the artists permission (no via e-mail), I was just wondering what porceedures I need to do before uploading such a pic, here are the links:<br /> *Shadow-Wolf (artist) - http://shadow-wolf.deviantart.com/<br /> *the picture I want to use - http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/8577254/?qo=165&amp;q=by%3Ashadow-wolf&amp;qh=sort%3Atime+-in%3Ascraps<br /> *and finally the message giving me permission to use this pic - http://my.deviantart.com/notes/1/52363257<br /> <br /> I just want to ensure I do not mess up on this matter, I would really appreciate your help with this<br /> <br /> :I can't see that note, probably since they're private, but for that sort of thing we're fine with taking people's word for it unless the artist complains. Just make sure to mention the name of the artist in the picture description, and select &quot;fursona&quot; in the dropdown license box when you upload it. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 20:13, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :heres the note - <br /> <br /> From: *shadow-wolf<br /> Date: Nov 4, 2006, 12:17:03 PM<br /> sure, go for it! Could you credit me in your journal or something, link back to the original picture? It'd be a great plug for me if you could. ^^ Thank you for having the courtasy to ask first <br /> <br /> ~nymph<br /> <br /> ----------<br /> RVDDP2501 said the following:<br /> <br /> Hi Shadow Wolf, I'm RVDDP2501, listen, I was wondering if I could get your permission to use your Venom Pic as my avatar, I really like it and I'm a huge Venom fan, I just wanted to ask your permission first, thanks<br /> <br /> P.S. I'm the Extinctioners wikifur page creator <br /> <br /> <br /> and finally (forgive my ignorence) what exactly is the drop box your refering to? - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 20:51, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> wait... I think I've found what your talking about - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 20:54, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Other-Language Wikis ==<br /> <br /> We've talked before about a possible Swedish-language furry wiki. It is likely that I will find myself with a good chunk of free time (or at least that what free time I have won't be eaten up by pesky things like take-home schoolwork) in a month or so - would it still be of interest that I go ahead and request the wiki to be made? (Last we discussed it on LJ, I kind of got heaped with massive amounts of Stuff soon afterwards, unfortunately.) I could probably get [[Ricadonna]] to link it from the [[SveaFur]] homepage as well, so that there'd be at least a few contributors more or less guaranteed. --[[User:Quotingmungo|quoting_mungo]] 15:13, 8 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Someone needs to learn to think before she talks. I also meant to ask if you have a preference for a Wikia-hosted wiki (would it help with organization, for instance?) or if it could be privately hosted for all you care? I know the host I plan on moving to makes it ridiculously simple to install a wiki, so if it's all the same to you that might be a better route, as that also eliminates the ads? I'm just disorganized today, sorry. --[[User:Quotingmungo|quoting_mungo]] 15:29, 8 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I'd still be very interested in seeing more furry wikis in different languages. As the one who intends to do the work to found the wiki, it's up to you to decide where it should be. :-) I think Wikia is a good choice for those who don't want to be dealing with server-side issues or costs. If you believe that the technical ability to start and maintain the wiki software is available (whether you or they can provide it), and if you are sure that the hosting will be maintained, then there's no problem with hosting it anywhere. For various reasons, I felt it was suitable for the English language furry wiki to be here, but it doesn't mean others have to. We can link back and forth wherever you are. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 16:22, 8 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I talked to my boyfriend, whom I will be sharing the bandwidth with, and unless I magically get an insane permanent-ish workload, it sounds as though I'll privately host the wiki when we get set up at the new host. Would put it somewhere around early December, which suits me fine as that puts it past most of my current deadlines. --[[User:Quotingmungo|quoting_mungo]] 17:41, 8 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> Aaand, I'm slow at getting things done, as usual. I'm still working on this, and it should get somewhere relatively soon (or so I hope), so I just wanted to draw your attention to one [http://furry.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Quotingmungo#Sverige_Furry little thing]. Whether or not you feel the Swedish wiki logo should have anything in common with WikiFur's (font and general text layout is what's in question here, I have an idea of what I want to do instead of the pawprint graphic) is totally up to you. --[[User:Quotingmungo|quoting_mungo]] 08:52, 14 January 2007 (UTC)<br /> :I'm personally fine with furry wikis in other languages having similar logos to WikiFur, as long as they ''act'' essentially like WikiFur as well (that is, the purpose and general &quot;spirit&quot; of the site remains the same, though obviously the details of the policies would develop based on its own community). For example, I wouldn't want a German equivalent of [[Furry Horrors Wiki]] using it - that wouldn't fit in with the expectations that users have of the logo. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 09:03, 14 January 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::Thank you, I appreciate the quick response. --[[User:Quotingmungo|quoting_mungo]] 09:07, 14 January 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == More All Fur Fun stuff! ==<br /> <br /> Hi GreenReaper! All Fur Fun (the new furry convention) has a new website up and running. It's already linked, but I was hoping someone could edit the convention's entry to show that we're a bit more organized now, hehe! I'd do it myself, but I tend to do Very Wrong Things when I try to edit wiki pages, so I'd rather have someone with experience do it. ;D<br /> <br /> Thanks in advance! :D<br /> <br /> --[[User:Teeka|Teeka]] 02:36, 11 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Did it last night, but forgot to note that here. If I've missed anything, or if you develop more details over time, do feel free to add it in. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 23:50, 11 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thanks for the offer ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for the offer, and the cleanup of my page. If it would be at all possible, would you please make my page more wiki friendly? I'm not the best wiki editor. Much Thanks in advance. -- [[Jaie_Davis]]<br /> <br /> == RVDDP2501 character name change request ==<br /> <br /> Hey GreenReaper, how are you doing, listen, I'm sorry to ask you to do this for me yet again but I need two character's names changed, the characters [[Slash]] and [[Short]], I need the last name WhiteEye added to the both of them so they would be e.g. Slash WhiteEye, thanks, I would really appreciate your help with this - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 17:29, 16 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Thanks - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 11:33, 17 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> It was the least I could do to honor the memory of a fine person and a dedicated Furry (He was a Cheetah because he had freckles...lol).<br /> <br /> I know all of you furries who knew him must miss him terribly. <br /> <br /> I know I still find myself thinking of David from time to time and wish his life had not been taken away so violently and suddenly.<br /> <br /> David's death was followed the week after by my Mother's death and the week after that my Grandma passed.<br /> <br /> Three loved ones in three weeks.....you never know when they are gonna go...so make sure they know how much you love them...while they are here. <br /> <br /> I am not a Furry, but, your members are really great people. Keep the fur flying!<br /> <br /> == Nice job on the Did You Know section... ==<br /> <br /> I just wanted to say, nice job on it. I never knew that CSI or any sutch show even '''knew''' about the fandom, let alone made episodes with dramatically skewed ideas. (Yiffing parties! :) hmm... whered they hear of those? I'd REALLY like to know... :b ) I wonder, I think theres an episode of law and order with furr... also, nice for ptting it on the front page. [[User:CchristianTehWazzit|cchristian]]<br /> :Glad you like it! We should really update it more frequently. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 23:19, 23 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Hey, I'd be happy to fill it in for you or do something to help if you gave me some material or something. :) [[User:CchristianTehWazzit|cchristian]]<br /> :::Feel free to have a look through [[Special:Newpages]] to find some interesting tidbits, then [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Template:Did_you_know&amp;action=edit replace the current text] and add your new stuff to the [[WikiFur:Did you know?|archive page]]. There are other suggestions for ways to help on the [[WikiFur:Community Central|Community Central]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 14:45, 24 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Wikifur page problem ==<br /> <br /> Hey GreenReaper, I don't know if this is a problem caused by my computer, but recently the pages on wikifur seem a little out of pleace, all the user access links (contributions, watch list, etc.) are covered up by the page I'm looking at plust the page options (discussion, edit, etc.) are also covering up the pages name, the only thing I have done is update my internet explorer to 7.0, is this in fact a problem with my computer or is it something that is wrong with wikifur, please let me know, thanks - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 14:24, 26 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :This appears to be a problem with Wikia - they have changed the CSS in a way that is incompatible with IE7. I've sent them a little note about this, hopefully it will be fixed within a day or so. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 21:16, 26 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Thanks, let me know when this has been fixed cause I reverted back to the previous version of IE since the problem was starting to annoy me :-) - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 21:30, 26 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Image:Kirru sized.png ==<br /> <br /> Hello GreenReaper,<br /> <br /> This is in regards to ''[[:Image:Kirru sized.png]]''. It has not been tagged with a copyright status. This can be a complicated area, so I can try to help if you need any. The Wikipedia [[Wikipedia:WP:IUP|Image use policy]] may give some background, but it isn't policy here.<br /> <br /> To deal with this image, there are a few choices:<br /> <br /> * If you are the copyright holder, release it under a free license, for example:<br /> ** [[Wikipedia:Public domain|Public domain]] &lt;nowiki&gt;{{PDImage}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;<br /> ** [[Wikipedia:Creative Commons|Creative Commons]] Attribution-ShareAlike &lt;nowiki&gt;{{Cc-by-sa-2.5}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;<br /> ** [[Wikipedia:GFDL|GFDL]] &lt;nowiki&gt;{{GFDL}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;<br /> * If you are asserting that this image is usable under fair use, add an appropriate fair use tag. A very basic summary is that fair use is used for commentary, criticism and review on the image when no free image could be used instead. Some fair use tags are:<br /> ** Logos: &lt;nowiki&gt;{{logo}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;<br /> ** Covers: &lt;nowiki&gt;{{Cover}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;<br /> ** Comic panels: &lt;nowiki&gt;{{Comic-panel}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;<br /> * If the image is already under a free license, provide information on the license, and tag the image if you can.<br /> * If you would like the image to be deleted, ask any [[WikiFur:Administrators|administrator]]<br /> <br /> To see a list of current copyright tags available on WikiFur, see [[:Category:Image copyright tags]]<br /> If the copyright status is not resolved, the image may be deleted.<br /> <br /> Unless you have a question for me specifically, I'd prefer responses on the page for the image. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 01:27, 28 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == My Wikifur page ==<br /> <br /> Hey, thanks for the help, I'm kinda new to this stuff ^.^<br /> <br /> Little question tho, my page is also in the 'hybrid' catagory... Shouldn't be, since I'm 100% pure fox. How can I change that? [[User:Darkfoxx|Darkfoxx]] 14:22, 1 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : I took care of that for you [[User:Simba B|Simba B]] 15:32, 1 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: Thanks, Simba. Darkfoxx: The categories an article is in are defined by the &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Category:]]&lt;/nowiki&gt; tags, usually at the bottom of the page. Remove them, and it removes an article from the category. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 15:43, 1 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == WikiFur Central/Header ==<br /> <br /> It appears that since your latest edits to [[Template:WikiFur Central/Header]], it is now covering up the [[Template:Newsbar]], at least when I view it under Firefox. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 00:23, 3 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Eh, never mind. Looks like you fixed it. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 00:25, 3 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::''Interested users should see [[Talk:WikiFur Furry Central#Featured article length]] for more details.'' --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 17:28, 4 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Species ==<br /> <br /> Is it okay to change species? cause i don't think a wolf fits me well . . . [[User:Wolfie|Wolfie]] 02:07, 5 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :it's fine, but changing your'e account name here? that's a thing... [[User:CchristianTehWazzit|cchristian]]<br /> <br /> ::Nobody's going to stop you doing either, though if you change your name, let me know what it is and I can move the appropriate pages over so that the history is retained, rather than just copying and pasting it. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 03:01, 5 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I guess i would want my new name to be Skunk-Raccoon. [[User:Wolfie|Wolfie]] 03:10, 5 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Not going for something a little more . . . original? The danger of such names is that you might change over time, and also other people tend to do the same thing (see [[Tigerwolf]]). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 03:13, 5 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::Original? Well . . . i'll try, uhm . . . could it taken from a band name or something? [[User:Wolfie|Wolfie]] 15:39, 5 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::It's up to you. I just want to help try and avoid name clashes in the future. The advantage of making up a name that nobody else has is that . . . well, nobody else has it. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 16:09, 5 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::I think i came up with my name . . . &quot;Basic Bassist&quot;. It's not the coolest, but, it works, i guess :) [[User:Wolfie|Wolfie]] 22:12, 5 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::Cool. Let me know when you're sure, and if you want me to move the pages about you to a new location (perhaps after you register that as a nickname here). [[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 22:18, 5 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::So, i just register that name, and that's it? [[User:Wolfie|Wolfie]] 22:25, 5 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::Well, and tell me here. '''*grin*''' [[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 22:30, 5 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::::Huh? [[User:Wolfie|Wolfie]] 22:33, 5 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::::&quot;I wouldn't want to move your user page until you've registered the name, so tell me here once you have.&quot; [[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 22:46, 5 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::::::Alright [[User:Basic Basist|Basic Basist]] 14:53, 6 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::::::::Done! [[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 15:03, 6 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::::::::Thank you!!! '''*hugs*''' [[User:Basic Basist|Basic Basist]] 23:56, 6 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::::::::::I spelled &quot;Bassist&quot; wrong . . . could you fix it? [[User:Basic Basist|Basic Basist]] 02:27, 9 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::::::::::Sure. [[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 02:48, 9 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Greetings==<br /> Hello, thanks for the welcome! I've removed some unnecessary personal info from a vandal's userpage, since no one here has checkuser it would be of no benefit to them. [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=User:Jewbo_Wales&amp;oldid=104070 Here] is the version with the IP info on it, in case you need to request a checkuser with the staff. ^_^ [[User:Redfur|Redfur]] 04:50, 6 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica&amp;curid=3443&amp;diff=104122&amp;oldid=104094 Heh] ==<br /> <br /> I (&lt;nowiki&gt;http://encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/Ket&lt;/nowiki&gt;) didn't really consider it vandalism, so I removed that section. Hope that's fine-[[User:SkippFox|SkippFox]] 09:10, 6 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Block of 71.98.64.0/18 ==<br /> <br /> Are you sure about blocking that entire subnet? We've only had two vandlism incidents from there over the last 24 hours. I'm concerned that we might exclude potential contributors from that block. May I propose that we unblock that block and reblock only if we keep having incidents of vandalism from there? --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 21:21, 6 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> :If you wish. It's only 16384 addresses, though - I doubt we have contributors and trolls in that same block. [[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 22:09, 6 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thanks for the welcome. ==<br /> <br /> I'm slowly getting myself back onto the net, so this was as good a place to start as any. :D {{unsigned|Khromat}}<br /> <br /> == Reversed clock time? ==<br /> <br /> Note the [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=High_Tail_Hall&amp;action=history edit history] for [[High Tail Hall]], specifically, my recent minor revisions. WTF. The &quot;on second thought&quot; revision should have been applied after the correction of possessive form. Repeating the edit seems to have been effective, but I'd rather not see that kind of glitch happening to anyone else. -- [[User:Siege|Siege]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:Siege|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 10:08, 10 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> :This is due to de-synched clocks on the various Wikia servers... if you look at the actual revision numbers, you'll see that 105229 is listed as occuring after 105230. This ''should'' only affect diff viewing and histories (but can be spotted by looking at the numbers). We are attempting to find the reason for the time desynchings, but this happens every once in a while. I've asked the techies to see if there is an easy way to fix these (it should be a simple as swapping the timestamps of any revisions that are not chronologically sequential, maybe). --[[w:User:Splarka|Splarka]] &lt;small&gt;([[w:User_talk:Splarka|talk]])&lt;/small&gt; 10:34, 10 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Request ==<br /> <br /> Ok, the discussion seems to have died on the talk page, so I'll ask you personally: can you just delete the info on Aardvark, as he seems to have moved on to other wikis? He hasn't vandalized here in about two months, I don't see the purpose. I understand he tried to get it removed a while back, but was... none too friendly about it and vandalized pages. Well, while that's not the only reason I registered, it's part of it - to get rid of his personal info. I've removed it from the [[ED]] article already and several editors, including yourself, have had their attentions drawn to edits to that article, but no one has reverted. Does this mean you feel it's not necessary? Let's say he goes for the rest of 2006 without vandalizing WikiFur - would you consider deleting the vandal page for him then?<br /> <br /> ALso, someone has brought up that I may be Blu Aardvark... I'm open to having a staff member checkuser me to prove I'm not. I've actually edited elsewhere under other accounts - I would assume that's allowed on Wikia for privacy reasons, but they can at least tell you I'm located far from Blu Aardvark and edit elsewhere constructively. [[User:Redfur|Redfur]] 13:34, 12 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> *You there? WOuld this be better handled by email? Or are you unconcerned? I don't mean to pester, but it's been buggin me. [[User:Redfur|Redfur]] 01:38, 13 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I'm here, but I have other things to deal with - work, sponsor relations and quick replies come ahead of replies to things I have to think about. :-)<br /> ::If you don't get reverted on the ED page, then chances are nobody cares. However, I see nothing on the vandalism record page concerned that needs to be removed. There is no mention of the user's real name, or his full address, so it should not come up on searches for that, but it is possible for our users to obtain it if the vandalism resumes. It '''will''' come up on searches for Blu Aardvark (not high, as few pages link to it), but that seems more than appropriate, since the edits were made in connection with that name.<br /> ::As he says himself, he's &quot;opted for the benefits of accountability versus the benefits of anonymity.&quot; If he wants the benefits, he has to be willing to accept the costs as well. We're not about to give his life story (as ED would), but we will say what he did on our wiki, and point to other wikis where he did the same thing so people can see that, yes, there is a pattern here. Our objective is to stop him doing it again, or failing that, be able to respond in a meaningful way by contacting his internet service provider and asking them to enforce their terms of service against a specific customer. I don't see how hiding what he did will help that - I would view it as assurance that I could get away with anything if I waited a few months.<br /> ::What ''will'' happen is that time will pass and eventually people who do happen across it won't care about what wikis he vandalized 5 years ago. He could quite reasonably say on his own page, &quot;Well, yes, this happened, but I've moved on.&quot; I don't think many people are going to believe that after 3 months, though. [[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 15:46, 13 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I guess the info that remains isn't so bad. I've taken his real name out of the pages it links to, so if you insist, I'm only happy you replied. Thanks! [[User:Redfur|Redfur]] 06:39, 14 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thoughts on spam from webstores? ==<br /> <br /> I've seen some links that state a specific item is &quot;available at &lt;insert webstore URL here&gt;&quot; where the website is an ordinary online store not involved with the creation of said item. When does this constitute unwanted spam? If the item can be Googled fairly easily, should we delete such link postings? Should we be supportive if the store is sufficiently furry or furry-friendly? -- [[User:Frizzy|Frizzy]] 01:25, 13 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Well, this depends on the situation, but if the link does provide value to readers I wouldn't remove it. I may even have added it myself. There's a difference between &quot;could be googled fairly easily&quot; and &quot;everyone will know where buy this item, and will do so without being prompted to do so,&quot; and it can often be the difference between a sale and a missed opportunity. I ''would'' probably consider putting a furry-friendly store above a generic link to Amazon.com, but I wouldn't remove a link to Amazon.com if it made it more likely that people would buy whatever it was. I see people buying more furry stuff as a '''good''' thing. *grin* [[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 01:36, 13 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == IRC statistics ==<br /> <br /> I think you should edit it so that it shows it by person, not by nickname. also, it need an update because even though it has the names of people who said only 5 or 6 lines, my names are not listed... I was also wondering, where can I put my stuff about the IRC that I'm working on? thanks Green, [[User:CchristianTehWazzit|- cchristian]]<br /> <br /> == Archive Time? ==<br /> <br /> IMHO, it's time for another User Talk Archive, GR. =3 [[User:SpazKitty|Spaz Kitty]] 23:46, 20 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == This is not cool ==<br /> <br /> encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php?title=User:Dukeotterland&amp;curid=27747&amp;diff=1997066886&amp;oldid=1997066552 That. [[User:Tretonin|Tretonin]] 16:15, 29 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Why are you complaining to GR about that edit? He's not an admin on ED. If you have a problem with my conduct there, you should take it up with the ED admins. (Or feel free to bring it up with me directly if you wish.)<br /> :And, for the record, I made the exact same edit to my userpage over on ED. www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php?title=User:Dmuth&amp;curid=32694&amp;diff=1997066885&amp;oldid=1997066457 --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 16:40, 29 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == because I felt like it... ==<br /> <br /> {{furry treat|being... small... and uh.. green... yeah............................ }}<br /> <br /> ......... '''- ''[[user:cchristianTehWazzit|cchristian]]'' &lt;small&gt;[[user talk:cchristianTehWazzit|talk]]&lt;/small&gt;'''<br /> <br /> == removal of name ==<br /> <br /> Sorry to bother you again, I made a request from you about a year ago pertaining to the removal of my name and desc from your wikifur site(this was done &amp; I thank you for it). I've one further request which I hope is in your power to grant, which is: Could you please remove my name entirely from even pointing to that I was ever on this site? As it stands now when I do a search in google or Yahoo, it immediately pops up at the top of this list even though there is no actual description in the wiki, it still gives a desc of past avatars and the info that I no longer wished to be apart of the site. Thanks in advance<br /> T*o*m N*a*r*e*y &lt;--done to keep the name from cropping up once again :)<br /> <br /> :I have removed your name from the disambiguation page that mentioned it - it should be OK as long as the fan names are only associated with each other and not yours. This was the one that Yahoo particularly liked. I cannot guarantee when they will update their cached version of the page - until they do, it will still show up under your name.<br /> <br /> :I'm a little uncomfortable with removing our talk pages about the exclusion request, since they're essentially our public record of why it's excluded in the first page. It is true that admins can always look, but my view is that if you're hiding something, you should at least not be able to hide the request to hide something. If people care that much about your involvement in a fandom ten years ago, you have to wonder whether they're worth working for . . .<br /> <br /> :Regardless, another administrator has decided to delete it (read: remove it from public view) for now. The short message stating that you requested removal needs to remain on the actual page, regardless of the fate of the actual request, as without that there is no basis for people to avoid writing about you here. The best way to ensure people don't even read that is to make a web page about yourself that is titled with and which mentions your name. That way '''it''' will end up as the main hit for your name, rather than WikiFur, as long as you link it in a few places. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 02:19, 13 January 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> The problem is, is that there is no indication of when I was involved. It just says that I was. I've no idea why my name might be up there as I never really did anything in the fandom except create a few pieces of art and almost immediately deleted them within a few months of their creation. Like it or not, there is a dark stigma attached to that fandom by professionals in the game, vfx, sfx, comics, industries; of which I would liked to have had left behind. {{unsigned|128.195.85.174}}<br /> <br /> :Well, nothing prevented the ''addition'' of a date. :-) I'm guessing a fan who liked your artwork on Yerf started the article about you (it was done by [[Special:Contributions/24.155.47.5|an anonymous user]]). As for the stigma - well, I guess I must be lucky, since I work for a company that's in games and they're not unaware of my fandom activities - heck, I have a picture up in my cubicle, and my boss will be dropping me off at the airport for FC this Thursday. Maybe the rules are different for programmers vs. artists, but I like to think times are changing, too. It gets harder to treat furry fandom as its [[stereotype]] when fans start buying out [[Wikipedia:David L. Lawrence Convention Center|convention centers]] for a weekend. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 22:02, 16 January 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thanks for the welcome ==<br /> <br /> Hey, GreenReaper. Thanks for welcoming me. As for your offer to help, I was wondering if you could give me an idea about what might get my [[Xerxes Qados|fursona's]] article to lose its cleanup tag. {{unsigned|XerxesQ}}<br /> <br /> :Sure. Often, the user who put that tag on will have left a comment in the [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Xerxes_Qados&amp;action=history history]. If it is not clear enough, or if there is no comment there, then you can ask them directly on their talk page. Making sure that an article sounds like an encyclopedia (e.g. avoids the use of an overly-informal tone) is generally a good idea, and the intent of many of the cleanup tags that are put on (we really need a few more specific tags than just cleanup). Of course, you don't have to agree with all of what they think is wrong about the article, and you can take the cleanup tag off once you think it's fine. They might then choose to do nothing, or edit it themselves, or give a more specific discussion on the talk page associated with the article. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 21:32, 13 January 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Search ==<br /> <br /> Just wondering - how do you control the appearance of the links on the left side of the screen, in particular the search box?<br /> <br /> I'm asking not on account of anything to do with WikiFur, but because of a different wiki where I've started doing some edits. On that wiki there is only a search button, and below that you can select to search that wiki, or a Google web search. I would like to suggest to the admins of that wiki that they consider changing it to the Go and Search buttons like we have here on WikiFur. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 22:30, 22 January 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I'm afraid the answer here is &quot;I don't know&quot;. The search box was, I think, tweaked somewhat by [[wikia:Wikia, Inc.|Wikia]]. I would suggest asking some of their techs would be a reasonable next step. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 07:30, 23 January 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == The Lion King MUCK article ==<br /> <br /> Excuse the rollback, but your edit to [[The Lion King MUCK]] doesn't seem to have been made to the most recent version of the article, and I think it'll be easier to re-do the tables then drift back through edit histories and get the rest of the article restored in bits. -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 06:12, 29 January 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Good catch there. I think I must have been looking in an older version of the article to see if it had a History section that had been removed. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 06:15, 29 January 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thanks and hiya! ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for sorting my page out dude! I just got some questions: How do I do picture boxes and am I okay to put more up about the stories and stuff?<br /> Cya! [[User:Darker the Dragon|Darker]]<br /> <br /> :You do picture boxes using the syntax in [[Help:Editing]] (for example: &lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;[[Image:Filename.png|right|thumb|200px|An image floating to the right of 200px width]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt; - but first, you need to [[Special:Upload|upload the image]]. Make sure that the uploaded filename is descriptive. As for your stories, you're welcome to add more information about them, as long as it remains a descriptive piece about the works. Such descriptions should probably remain on the page about you unless they cover a work that has been published in paper form and have a notability aside from yourself (this is a slightly fuzzy boundary, but the majority of short stories and unpublished works lie under it). Oh, and on talk pages, you can sign your conversations with &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt;, and get something like this: --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 17:18, 3 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == page name change request by RVDDP2501 ==<br /> <br /> Hey GreenReaper, Listen, I'm sorry to bother you bu I was wondering if you could change two page names for me, could you add the last name &quot;WhiteEye&quot; to [[Miki]] and [[Rokko]] for me and I stupidly didn't know one could update a pic on any wiki, I uploaded a new pic of the Rokko character, I was wondering if you could delete the previous version called &quot;Extinctioners_cast_Rokko_by_Ebonyleopard.jpg&quot; for me, thank you I awould really appreciate it, thank you - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 11:47, 4 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Looks like [[User:Rat|someone]] already did it. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 16:20, 4 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Ok, thanks :-) - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 16:34, 4 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == just thanking for the welcome ==<br /> <br /> thanx for the welcome, btw is this the correct etiquette on answering usertalk msgs?<br /> <br /> --[[User:Tigro Spottystripes|Tigro Spottystripes]] 03:03, 8 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :You're welcome, and yes, it is right to respond on the other person's talk page unless they specifically say at the top of it that they will watch yours. Some people will have copies of their conversations on both pages, others may just respond on the page of the person they're talking to. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 03:06, 8 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Protected Dragonmorph ==<br /> <br /> Hi there GreenReaper, this is Dragonmorph (for real), can you protect my editing from those unknown Furry haters? --[[User:216.61.101.247|216.61.101.247]] 15:51, 12 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :It seems to be fairly well protected already - the change made by a recent vandal was [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Andres_Chung%2C_Jr.&amp;action=history reverted one minute later]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 18:43, 12 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: Those trolls is gonna start messing up this web again and again. --[[User:216.61.101.247|216.61.101.247]] 20:22, 13 February 2007 (UTC) - Dragonmorph<br /> <br /> :::It's always possible . . . but if they've not managed it this past year and a half, and not for lack of trying, I think we're reasonably secure. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 20:56, 13 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Page move and disambiguation page request ==<br /> <br /> Hey there. I was wondering if you or one of the other admins could move [[Orzel]] to [[Orzel_Aquila]], and add a disambiguation page for [[Orzel]] to link to either [[Orzel_Tastyeagle]] or [[Orzel_Aquila]]. I can't determine how to easily do this myself, so I figure I'll ask you to take care of it for me.<br /> <br /> If there is an easy way to do it, point me to the correct place and I'll take care of it myself.<br /> <br /> Thanks. --[[User:Orzel|Orzel]] 08:15, 15 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Sure! It should be sorted now. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 08:22, 15 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Comics Template ==<br /> <br /> Hey, Reaper sir. I have a proposition.<br /> <br /> I don't know a great deal on the workings of WikiFur, but I am familiar with Wikipedia, and there's one thing I havn't seen here: templates. On Wikipedia, I think in particular of albums, they have -- ah, heck, I'm sure you know what I mean.<br /> <br /> Infobox! That's the name.<br /> <br /> Anyways... My point is that, and correct me if I'm wrong, they don't seem to exist here on wikifur, and assuming there isn't some technical reason for not having them, I think this place can greatly benefit from them. In particular, I'd like to see an infobox for all the comics we have, so that we can give them all a nice, unified look. It would make things look more professional, and it would help organize all the information easier.<br /> <br /> I... think that wound up as more of a ramble than anything else, but yes, that's my idea.<br /> <br /> [[User:Immelmann|Immelmann]] 02:27, 16 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> : *sigh* Wanna know how awesome I am? Apparently there IS such a thing on wikifur. It's just that no one uses them.<br /> Maybe I should propose a project or something to add the to all the comic pages... [[User:Immelmann|Immelmann]] 03:07, 16 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Oh, we do use them,... We are starting to incorporate them to the appropriate entries, but it's a slow process. Your idea of additional infoboxes is quite fine, the problem is time, coding and incorporation (See: [[Forum:Infoboxes]].) [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 03:24, 16 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :There are, as has been mentioned, [[WikiFur:Templates|quite a few templates]]. If you're interested in helping to add them, and think it would add value to the project, go right ahead! We could use the help. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 03:36, 16 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> == What am I==<br /> Hey, i figured youd be the person to ask. I tried looking other places on the wiki, so here it is: Im a 17 year old male into Furry comics and animations(of the adult type). I can see myself engaging in intercourse with anthromoprhic animals, but not animals in real life. I dont fursuit, and im straight. What does this make me on the furry scale? {{unsigned|DJLO}}<br /> <br /> :Hi there! I think I can manage that. Let's take a look on the Official Furry Scale:<br /> &lt;table width=&quot;100%&quot;&gt;<br /> &lt;tr style=&quot;font-weight: 700;text-align: center&quot;&gt;<br /> &lt;td&gt;0<br /> &lt;td&gt;1<br /> &lt;td&gt;2<br /> &lt;td&gt;3<br /> &lt;td&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:red&quot;&gt;4&lt;/span&gt;<br /> &lt;td&gt;5<br /> &lt;td&gt;6<br /> &lt;td&gt;7<br /> &lt;td&gt;8<br /> &lt;td&gt;9<br /> &lt;td&gt;10<br /> &lt;/tr&gt;<br /> &lt;tr&gt;<br /> &lt;td colspan=&quot;11&quot;&gt;<br /> &lt;hr&gt;<br /> &lt;/td&gt;<br /> &lt;/tr&gt;<br /> &lt;tr&gt;<br /> &lt;td&gt;[[Rush Limbaugh]]<br /> &lt;td&gt;[[Mundane]]<br /> &lt;td&gt;[[Nonfur]]<br /> &lt;td&gt;[[:Category:Comics|Comic lovers]]<br /> &lt;td&gt;[[Role-playing|Roleplayers]]<br /> &lt;td&gt;[[Homosexuality|Homosexuals]]<br /> &lt;td&gt;[[Fursuit]]ers<br /> &lt;td&gt;[[Therian|Therians]]<br /> &lt;td&gt;[[Plushophilia|Plushophiles]]<br /> &lt;td&gt;[[Skunkfucker|Skunkf***ers]]<br /> &lt;td&gt;[[Mark Merlino]]<br /> &lt;/tr&gt;<br /> &lt;/table&gt;<br /> You are a '''&lt;span style=&quot;color:red&quot;&gt;4&lt;/span&gt;'''. Hope that helps! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 04:46, 17 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> &lt;small&gt;Note: Anyone who takes the above seriously deserves to. :-)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> :Oh man, that is SO wrong. I like it! --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 19:27, 17 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> haha thanks! [[User:DJLO|DJ]] 20:12, 17 February 2007 (UTC<br /> <br /> So this means the average furry is homosexual? I knew it haha!!--[[User:Tagenar|Tagenar]] 22:10, 17 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Removing a NPOV ==<br /> <br /> I am not sure if I have done enough research, so forgive me for missing a relevant FAQ, but I want to know how to remove a NPOV designation from the entry on Wolfhome. Is there a procedure for this? If it still seems to be a slanted viewpoint, what criteria is there for knowing when it has been successfully reworked?<br /> <br /> On a separate note, I am curious how to sign a document that I've edited... Yeah, I know, I *really* gotta learn how to RTFM someday! :) My posts are showing up with &quot;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wunderwood&quot;... Am I supposed to sign my comments?<br /> :I'm sure GR will forgive me for responding on his talk page, but to sign your comments, just type &lt;nowiki&gt;-- ~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt; and it will autosign it. Also, you can just click on the 2nd button from the right on the toolbar, the button that looks like a squiggly.--[[User:KendricksRedtail|Kendricks Redtail]] 03:30, 17 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Thanks, Kendricks. I will practice by signing this update. :) Anyone want to step up to the plate on the NPOV question? It's not urgent or anything, but I figured since Wolfhome is active now and the article isn't all that acerbic, maybe it should be considered. --[[User:Wunderwood|underdog]] 00:30, 18 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :If you think it has been successfully neutralized, you are welcome to remove the template. If people disagree, they will probably add it back, along with a note to the talk page or in the edit summary. The criteria is the people's consensus opinion of the article. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 00:35, 18 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thanks for the Welcome! ==<br /> <br /> Hi GreenReaper, thanks for welcoming me to WikiFur! I've messaged you once before in the [[Funday_PawPet_Show|FPS]] IRC channel (under the name wolfi386). I have to say, once again, that WikiFur has been an excellent introduction to the furry fandom for me. Being so new to the fandom (my first exposure to fandom-produced furry artwork was roughly three years ago, but I only started exploring the fandom itself about two months ago), I probably won't be able to expand many articles at first, but I'll do my best at copy-editing and [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Glossary#W|wikification]] in the meantime! :) --[[User:Chaos386|chaos386]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:Chaos386|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 18:55, 17 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Just another member saying thank you ==<br /> <br /> Hi GreenReaper, I just also wanted to say thanks for the welcome and kind offer of help, I really appreciate the warm welcome. [[User:CrimsonDivine|Crimson Divine]]<br /> <br /> == Archiving talk pages ==<br /> <br /> How do I archive an over-full Talk page so that it has a &quot;Talk archives&quot; box like this page? [[User:Mitch|Mitch]] 20:53, 19 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Have a look at [[User talk:GreenReaper/Header]]. You can copy the top to make your own - I use &lt;nowiki&gt;{{User talk:GreenReaper/Header}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; to include it. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 20:59, 19 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == thanks ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for the welcome. There was one question I had, how to send messages; but as you can see I found it out for myself. ^_^ &lt;small&gt;—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Nido|Nido]] ([[User talk:Nido|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Nido|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.&lt;/small&gt;&lt;!-- [Template:Unsigned] --&gt;<br /> <br /> :Hehe, indeed! It's usually a good idea to sign messages on talk pages, too, so other people reading don't have to go back into the history to see who said what - you can do this by putting &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt; at the end (or just &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt; for your name) - like this: --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 05:50, 22 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Hello and thanks! ==<br /> <br /> Hey GreenReaper! Thanks for your help and for cleaning up my page! You're kindness has not gone unnoticed!! &gt;^.^&lt; --[[User:Kitoichi|Kitoichi]] 03:37, 1 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> :It was [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Kitoichi_Aoiro&amp;action=history a team effort] - but, on behalf of the team, you're welcome! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 04:12, 1 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Anthrocon 2007 plannings ==<br /> <br /> I've created a new page over at [[WikiFur:Conventions/Anthrocon/2007]] so that we can discuss what is planned for AC07 as far as wikifur related activities as we discussed on IRC. Please add whatever information or ideas you have concerning events and such. :) -- [[User:JSharp|JaeSharp]] 10:40, 1 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Furry Category:Furry] ==<br /> <br /> Any chance you'd consider asking the whole Wikifur community to contribute more pictures for this category and Category:Fursuit? -- [[User:Zanimum|Zanimum]] 18:13, 1 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :''We talked in [[WikiFur:IRC|IRC]] - for those interested in free-licensed images, check out [[:Category:Images by license]]''. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 18:21, 1 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Abando ==<br /> <br /> Hello! Regarding [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Abando&amp;diff=123558&amp;oldid=123557 your last change] to [[Abando]], I did mean the actual site, not the website (it doesn't exist yet). I couldn't find a real word for the meaning, it's a place in the country, it's like a farm but there is no [[wikipedia:Primary sector of industry|primary sector]] activity, it's just a private site, and quite large at that, with almost 84 [[wikipedia:acre|acres]] (almost 34 [[wikipedia:hectare|ha]]). There's many pictures at part 2 of [http://www.infolobo.org/abando/abando.html this page].<br /> <br /> Thank you for the help! :-) [[User:Ekevu|Ekevu]] 13:30, 5 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == [[User talk: Scani#Vandals|Re: Vandals]] ==<br /> <br /> No prob - just happened to be fortuitous timing! --[[User:Scani|Scani]] 01:51, 6 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Hey! Thanks for warm the welcome and clean-up of my page. I appreciate it. :D &lt;small&gt;—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Tau|Tau]] ([[User talk:Tau|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tau|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.&lt;/small&gt;&lt;!-- [Template:Unsigned] --&gt;<br /> <br /> == Wiki Page, Luca Shoal ==<br /> <br /> Yes, it was Luca Shoal, I was just too stupid to realize that the character from High Tail was a real person. People make mistakes :). Anyway, thanks for cleaning up my page, I know my phrasing isn't the best in the world.<br /> --[[User:VosAbeo|VosAbeo]] 17:39, 18 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Rollback ==<br /> <br /> There doesn't seem to be any precedent, except the one set by SK on the 20&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt; (see [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?days=30&amp;limit=500&amp;title=Special%3ARecentchanges&amp;namespace=2]). I'm really too tired over here to fight, but it just doesn't feel right. '''[[User:Blast|&lt;font color=#DE0000&gt;Bl&lt;/font&gt;]][[User_talk:Blast|&lt;font color=#FCD116&gt;a&lt;/font&gt;]][[User:Blast|&lt;font color=#DE0000&gt;st&lt;/font&gt;]]''' &lt;small&gt; 21.03.07 1324 (UTC)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> :That's probably because you're from Wikipedia, where most users do not have main-namespace articles about themselves. We have very few categories that are intended for user pages, and they are mostly included for things such as convention attendance which are not considered particularly notable (and which therefore have userboxes). Consider: Would you put [[Wikipedia:Category:Animators|Category:Animators]] on a user page at Wikipedia? No . . . if the person was notable enough to have an article in the main namespace, it would be on there instead. You would remove it from a user page, because main-namespace categories are not meant to link to user pages. Here, almost everyone is considered notable, and so has an article about them, and it is those articles that are under [[:Category:People]] and the various subcategories thereof. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 13:31, 21 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :For a few more examples of this, check out the user pages linked at [[WikiFur:Administrators]]. Most of those people also have pages about themselves. In practice, many users do not have anything but the {{tl|ContributorU}} template link on their user page, added by another user. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 13:36, 21 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Yeah, it's hard to get rid of that 'is this notable?' mentality (even if I don't agree with it) on here, so it seemed kind of...I guess narcissistic to make a mainspace article on myself, rather than put it at my userpage (which in practice on WP is where all non-notable people have their 'articles' hosted). Consider also that, when I came here, there were a lot of userspace articles listed in the categories, and so I thought that had been okayed a while ago.<br /> <br /> ::But screw it. I'll shut up and go back to patrolling vandalism on WP now. '''[[User:Blast|&lt;font color=#DE0000&gt;Bl&lt;/font&gt;]][[User_talk:Blast|&lt;font color=#FCD116&gt;a&lt;/font&gt;]][[User:Blast|&lt;font color=#DE0000&gt;st&lt;/font&gt;]]''' &lt;small&gt; 21.03.07 1341 (UTC)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> :::Our major problem with user pages is that they're not easy to find or link to. Most searches only cover the main namespace, and with good reason - because those are the ones people want to read and link to. This is fine for Wikipedia, where user pages do not have notable information on, but it doesn't work so well here, where you might well want to link to pages about artists (for example). It also separates the &quot;information about you&quot; edited by anyone from the &quot;information from you&quot; edited mostly by yourself. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 13:46, 21 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == WikiFur News linkage ==<br /> <br /> Hi GR!<br /> <br /> I just wanted to point something out to you as I'm not sure if it's supposed to work this way or not.<br /> <br /> I've noticed that the [[ConFuzzled]] article has this at the bottom:<br /> <br /> {{WikiFurNews|UK furs plan to be ConFuzzled in 2008}}<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> However, the link one would expect to lead to the News article about ConFuzzled actually links back to the ConFuzzled article via: http://furry.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Search/ConFuzzled<br /> <br /> This also happens with the [[Ursa Major Awards]].<br /> <br /> I'm not sure how to, or if I even can, rectify this myself so I was wondering if you could point me in the right direction or help out. :) --[[User:Graafen Blackpaw|Graafen Blackpaw]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:Graafen Blackpaw|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; - 21st March 2007 - 17:47 (UTC)</div>

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<p>Graafen Blackpaw: /* WikiFur News linkage */</p> <hr /> <div>{{User talk:GreenReaper/Header}}&lt;!-- You probably want to add stuff at the bottom of this page --&gt;<br /> <br /> == Another Response ;) ==<br /> Heya GreenReaper. Thank you for you warm welcome here on thsi Wiki. Its my first, so i guess there will be a few questions once I worked myself through the Style-Code provided here.<br /> <br /> == Welcome Response September 12, 2006 ==<br /> <br /> Thank you, GreenReaper. I kinda stumbled across this site yesterday and decided to 1. Create an account and 2. Make my page. I was quite flattered to find my name listed in the DJ section of Rainbow Tiger's page, so I got my hooves wet and started a personal page. I'll try to keep it rated PG, but we'll have to see what happens. I'll have a placeholder up for a while with many ... many edits while I figure out the syntax.<br /> <br /> [[Heuvadoches Naumova]]<br /> <br /> == Welcome response ==<br /> <br /> You're welcome! I'll be sure to let you know if I need any help. =^.^= -[[User:Alfador|Alfador]]<br /> <br /> Thanks, GR. -- [[User:VederJuda|VederJuda]] 10:54, 26 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == [[PAINWOLF]] ==<br /> Name painwolf I need to talk to about my page.<br /> <br /> Contact Info:<br /> Yahoo and AIM: NL4PAINWOLF<br /> MSN: PAINWOLF@hotmail.com<br /> <br /> E-mails: PAINWOLF@gmail.com<br /> <br /> :''Replied'' --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 02:58, 28 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Norn ==<br /> <br /> Ok, so i guess the question is, why is there a norn running around on the furry edit link ... it seems to hide if I try to interact directly. Do you have more info? -- [[User:Mongoose|Amar Shadowpaws]] 14:25, 1 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I think his name is Hebe. He followed me over from the [[w:c:Creatures|Creatures Wiki]]. I've not had the time to catch him and release him back into [[w:c:Creatures:Albia|the wild]] yet. Besides, he likes to help out - he's done a good job at finishing off the stubs people leave around. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 18:04, 1 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Thanks for coming to lunch ==<br /> <br /> Here are my [http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Wikimania_Notes notes] from our lunch. We will start working hard to get more information out on where the features and bug fixes are going. I really appreciated your support and encouragement, not too mention chatting with you at dinner Thursday. &lt;br&gt; [http://world.wikia.com/wiki/User:Gil Gil]| &lt;small&gt;[http://world.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Gil talk]&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Response to Welcome==<br /> Just wanna say thanks for the greeting, I'll be sure to ask if I need help with anything ;)<br /> <br /> Thanks for greeting me. I had to make my own page look a little spiffier ya know? :D<br /> <br /> ==Thanks for cleaning up after me==<br /> I've been multitasking, so I'm a little scatterbrained at the moment. =^_^!= --[[User:Frizzy|Frizzy]] 05:37, 12 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> And me as well, thanks. Couldn't figure out why I couldn't get those wikipedia links working internally, o,O<br /> --[[User:Animakitty|Anima]] 18:24, 7 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Picture on commons ==<br /> Your lecture was very interesting. I have one more picture of you. See:<br /> *http://www.poli.toya.net.pl/Wikimania_2006_galeria/pages/100-0070_IMG.html<br /> Fill free to copy it if you want.<br /> <br /> Polimerek.<br /> <br /> :Thanks again! I'll do that. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 20:39, 12 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == infoboxes ? ==<br /> <br /> I copied [[Wikipedia:Template:Infobox Webcomic]] to [[Template:Infobox webcomic]] because I thought having webcomic infoboxes (such as the one at [[Wikipedia:Aozora]]) would be nice. The template partially works (example at [[User:EarthFurst]]). I'm guessing the rest of that template doesn't work because WikiFur doesn't have [[Template:If]] ? WP has [[Wikipedia:Template:If]]. --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 05:22, 14 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :According to [[User:Splarka|Splarka]], it's due to a problem with tables and parserfunctions on Wikia. He going to try fixing it . . . --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 05:34, 14 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Hmm, the infobox was working beautifully at [[TwoKinds]], but doesn't seem to be working now. I've posted question to wikia's Help desk on the matter http://www.wikia.com/index.php?title=Forum:Wikia_hiccup_%3F&amp;t=20060817035856 . I'm reverting [[TwoKinds]] until the error is resolved. I'll be re-checking [[User:EarthFurst]] to see when the infox starts working again. --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 05:03, 17 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Did you know? ==<br /> <br /> [[Rod O'Riley]]'s band [[Illegal Operation]] will be performing live as part of the furry programming track at this month's [[Worldcon]] in the Los Angeles area. Do you think it would be a reasonable use of the [[WikiFur:Did you know?|Did you know?]] box to add an entry for this to help draw attention to it? Thanks! --[[User:Frizzy|Frizzy]] 16:39, 15 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Don't see why not. That whole section could do with a full update. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 16:56, 15 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I just got some bad news that the concert event had to be cancelled due to issues out of their control, so I revised the entry. --[[User:Frizzy|Frizzy]] 05:33, 16 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Featured article ==<br /> <br /> It's fun to see that my bio is a Featured article now. That means both of my pages have gotten onto the front page.<br /> [[User:Fox Cutter|Fox Cutter]] 21:45, 16 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I know! This wasn't actually intentional - I only noticed after I featured it. It seemed to be a good pick, so it went up. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 21:52, 16 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Hi there! ==<br /> <br /> Thanks very much pal, if I need any help I know who to turn to now. ^^<br /> <br /> - Eric B.<br /> <br /> P.S. I'm sorry for posting this as an article, I really don't know how to respond to the comment you gave me. Well, maybe I need your help already. ^^;<br /> <br /> == RVDDP2501 ==<br /> <br /> Hey GreenReaper, Its been a while since I had last heard from you, hows things? Listen, I just wanted to say thanks for the reversion of the damaged done to one of my character pages, man, when will this stupidness stop, hope to hear from you - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 23:15, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Hi there. Things are good! The vandalism will continue, undoubtedly, to a greater or lesser extent, but we seem to be coping with it well enough. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 23:22, 23 August 2006 (UTC)''<br /> <br /> ::Hi GreenReaper, the upgrade was a pleasant surprise after that last bit of unpleasant business. Thanks! --[[User:Frizzy|Frizzy]] 04:06, 24 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == sorry for the previous post : ==<br /> <br /> Sorry for the post, I just wanted to report a raid that was headed your way.<br /> If i suspect a raid in the future where do you think i should report this too?<br /> :I had to check the article history to find the post you were referring to. At a guess, it was probably mistaken for link spam, which we get here fairly often. We do appreciate the efforts of people to notify us of attacks in the offing. For future reference, it would be helpful to include a couple of sentences saying what is to be found at the link. (By the way, when I tried the link just now I got a 'Thread Not Found' error - whatver had been there is gone now.) --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 07:58, 26 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Here is fine, although you could try the [[Forum:Index|forum]] as well. As for your post, someone else edited my user page to remove it, but I'd already read the thread before you posted it so that was OK. :-)<br /> <br /> :We get a lot of people planning stuff, but half of them never show up, and the rest turn out only to have 5 people or so. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 16:24, 26 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Incomming Raid Group!!! ==<br /> <br /> [[Image:Wikifur.png|left|frame|This is the [[WikiFur]] logo!]]<br /> <br /> Be On the lookout for the next few days please sir! --[[User:PaulRevere|PaulRevere]] 21:15, 28 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :It would be helpful if we had a link to the site where this came from so we could investigate further. --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 21:18, 28 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Oh, DeusEx again? He's been working on that for a while, as I recall. I guess we'll see if anything comes of it. We've coped quite well so far with a full bot attack, even when it was using a network of 600 proxies.<br /> <br /> :It's cute the way they seem to think using Í will stop google indexing their site, let alone the &quot;totally inept&quot; part. So far it's about 10-0 on successful &quot;organized&quot; raids. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 21:35, 28 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::That reminds me - did we ever implement a &quot;panic button&quot; - something any of the admins could use in an emergency to block all updates if a major vandalism/bot attack were in progress? If there is an easy way to protect the entire site to sysop only, that would probably suffice. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 21:43, 28 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Like a &quot;Lock-down&quot; script? [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 22:09, 28 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::More like a &quot;restrict edits to group X&quot; script, though locking the DB might be a reasonable first step. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 22:17, 28 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: You know, we need to write an app to have a [[User:Nidonocu#Score_Board|Score Board]] like what Nidonocu has. --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 21:45, 28 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::I edit that manually you know. ;) Though I agree a panic page would be useful. --[[User:Nidonocu|Nidonocu]] - [[User talk:Nidonocu|talk]] [[Image:Trans 168.png|16px|Nidonocu]] 23:20, 28 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Oh Gods ^-^ or a [[Wikipedia:DHS|DHS]]'s like [[Wikipedia:Homeland_Security_Advisory_System|Security Advisory System]],... &quot;Today's Threat Level is &quot;Fluffy,&quot; with some chances of /b/tards in the afternoon.&quot; [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 22:09, 28 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::sorry duesX or whatever your name is, I'm almost finished with my &quot;vandalism vaccine&quot; project. so nless you can get it in before that's done, you're just wasting your time working on a program that won't work... : ) [[User:CchristianTehWazzit|- cchristian]]<br /> <br /> == Removing a name on &quot;People&quot;. ==<br /> <br /> Hello there! i am Crowe Basalt, and previously, i did go by &quot;Grimmutt&quot;. i edited an article on &quot;Grimmutt&quot;, but, as i am going back to only using the &quot;Crowe Basalt&quot; name, i'd like to have &quot;Grimmutt&quot;'s page removed.<br /> <br /> thank you! {{unsigned|Crowebasalt}}<br /> <br /> :Hi there, Crowe, and welcome back to WikiFur! The best way to go about that is usually to move the article, as that preserves the original history. I will fix that up later tonight when I get home. Do you wish us to keep the information about your character Grimmutt as a separate section on the page about you, or should I remove it and just mention that you used to go by the name? --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 22:40, 30 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Alternative to page protection ==<br /> <br /> Hey, this is Carrie Pika.<br /> <br /> Is there any way I can get this page locked so it shows only this? I don't want anyone adding personal information about me without my knowledge, so I'd like to have it left at just this.<br /> <br /> Thanks~ {{unsigned|CarriePika}}<br /> <br /> :We can probably do that. You could also just put your email into your [[Special:Preferences|user preferences]] and then click the Watch tab, so it will tell you whenever someone edits so that you can check it out. Which would you prefer? --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 23:35, 30 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Oh, that'd work great, actually! I'll go ahead and do that. Thanks! {{unsigned|CarriePika}}<br /> <br /> :Excellentage. Enjoy WikiFur. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 04:44, 31 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == And thanks to you. ==<br /> <br /> I do appreciate the clean-up of my page, and the separation of the book summary. Many thanks! You guys do an amazing job here. - Alicia<br /> <br /> :You're welcome. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 21:37, 1 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == something to be very angry ==<br /> <br /> I wrote an article and someone, german wrote me this:<br /> <br /> &quot;Meine Fresse, ich hab noch nie so ein BESCHISSENES ENGLISCH gelesen. Kauf dir mal ein verdammtes Leben!!&quot; <br /> <br /> In a free translation it's:&quot;Damn I've never read such a shitty english. Buy a damn life&quot;<br /> Well maybe my english isn't taht good but is it necessary to write the comment in this way? Without an name or anything else. <br /> <br /> I think you're not able to find out who did it are you?<br /> <br /> And so maybe you could delete my account and the article about me. because I don't want to be a part of something like this. Sorry and thanks for the chocolat. ^^ {{unsigned|Andraste}}<br /> <br /> :That comment [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Andraste&amp;action=history was made] by a person with the IP address [[User:89.48.235.195|89.48.235.195]]. They are obviously not a regular user, otherwise they would indeed have signed their comment - and made the edit with a registered account. That edit to the talk page was their [[Special:Contributions/89.48.235.195|only contribution so far]]. There is therefore little to say about them, other than that their IP address resolved to the name &quot;Lebc3.l.pppool.de&quot; - probably a dialup account in Germany.<br /> <br /> :I would suggest you pay as much attention to you as someone who posts once on a forum anonymously to insult you, never having contributed to that forum before - that is, precisely no attention at all. If your English is not the best, so what? You are German! The fact that you can write English at all is better than most English people could do with German. If they thought the article was bad, the anonymous editor should have fixed it rather than complained about it. And, in fact, many others did. :-)<br /> <br /> :In the last day [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Andraste&amp;action=history several edits] by at least four other people have been made to the article about you (perhaps you made a link to it from somewhere else?). I would ask that you consider '''those''' edits to be an example of what WikiFur is, and not the anonymous commenter - who, I would note, could not even manage to put their ''own'' comment in English. We have [[WikiFur:No personal attacks|a policy against personal attacks]], and any regular contributor would know better than to make such a comment. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 17:59, 3 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Recategorization of [[List of convention acronyms]] ==<br /> <br /> I don't see why this fits better with [[:Category:Convention terms]] than [[:Category:Conventions]] when it seems to fit the Conventions cat just as well as [[List of furs who were married at a furry con]] or [[List of conventions by attendance]] (both of which are in [[:Category:Conventions]]), since like those two, its a sort of comparison/reference list between different conventions, as opposed to Category:Convention terms which seems to be a list of general terms used within a convention. --[[User:Chibiabos|Chibiabos]] 21:12, 9 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :OK. Change it back if you wish. My view was that an acronym was a convention term, but I can can see your side too. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 23:59, 9 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Wikifur now adversarial? ==<br /> <br /> I've read with interest the discussion on Sibe, specifically your comment:<br /> <br /> ''That is why I am opposed to the removal of the article in whole - because what he has done deserves remembering. It is our business, because Sibe has been bothering us as a community.''<br /> <br /> Does this mean Wikifur will not be so much as a source of neutral information, but that Wikifur will now become adversarial in relations to information about people who you (singularly or collectively) believe have wronged Furry? Do you feel that it's now your job/right/reponsibility to punish these people by using Wikifur as a &quot;bully pulpit&quot;?<br /> <br /> I hope this isn't the case. Wikifur, despite a healthy dose of pro-Furry slobbery, has been a respectable source of neutral information.<br /> <br /> :You'd have to put that question to the wider community for a full answer, as it's a question about where they want WikiFur to go. I'm one of the editors leading the project, but there are others. Still, I can provide some explanation, and the answer I would give is basically &quot;no, but we're not going to go out of our way to do such people any favours either.&quot;<br /> <br /> :The information on the individuals itself ''should'' unquestionably be neutral and factual (no, this doesn't always happen, and if you see a problem, please explain why and fix it). The only choice we have been making in some cases is whether or not to ''remove'' that neutral information (or some of it) on request, per the [[WikiFur:Personal information|personal information policy]]. This might well ''not'' be a neutral decision, because this is a community made up of members of the furry fandom, and as it is our website it is up to us to decide whether or not that is appropriate. Ultimately our role is to serve the best interests of the fandom, and that generally means trying not to hurt those who are or have been worthwhile members of it. We may care less about the possibility of hurting other people.<br /> <br /> :If a person is just a regular member of the fandom - maybe well-regarded, maybe just &quot;one of the gang&quot;, then people tend not to fuss too much if they want to remove personal information - and if they have not really done all that much special, that might include the entire article about them (if not, then references to them might remain in other articles). If an individual has, over time, given the community a significant amount of grief, they are likely to say &quot;no, this person is just trying to hide from the problems they have caused&quot; and deny the request. In short, if they've had no respect for our community, then we as a community are likely to have as little respect for them. That is why exclusions that may be contentious go to talk pages - so that the community can decide what to do in that particular situation.<br /> <br /> :These sorts of situation are fortunately pretty rare. In Sibe's case, though, his &quot;bothering&quot; was widely commented-on, were intimately connected to his person (not any external group), and occured over a long period of time. If WikiFur is recording furry history, it makes little sense to exclude him, particularly given that he has shown no reticence (or regret) on occasion over detailing the lives of others where it suited ''him''. We're perfectly aware that he doesn't like it being up there, but over time he's pissed off enough people in the fandom that few seem to care about what he feels anymore.<br /> <br /> :The thing is, all we have to do is say the truth. His own actions are what comdemn him. We don't even need to say they were bad. If telling the truth about someone makes them look bad in the eyes of the reader, then it's a fair bet that they deserve it.<br /> <br /> :This situation of information removal based on respect does not really apply to groups, whatever the standing of the group in the community. I would not support removing the history of the [[Burned Furs]], for example, or that of [[Sociopolitical Ramifications]], or [[FurryMUCK]], because these are important groups that have had a historical impact on the fandom. Maybe if it was a really small and personal group that hasn't . . . again, that'd be discussed on the appropriate talk pages.<br /> <br /> One final question: why is it so common to list the real names of people who've had adversarial relations with furry but not with those individuals considered friendly to the fandom? Why are real names included at all?<br /> <br /> :There might be various reasons for the inclusion of real names. For some people, their real name is just one item of information about them, such as the colour of their character's fur. Other people might not '''have''' nicknames that are well-known within the fandom (but really, this applies as much if not more to people &quot;friendly to the fandom&quot; as to others). In that case, it seems appropriate to use their real name, just as we tend to use the real name of artists that have used it as their identifier in the fandom.<br /> <br /> :In some cases, there may have been a good reason to find out the real name of a person, particularly if it might allow members of the furry fandom to more easily identify a person who is using a variety of nicknames or even their real name in a different venue (we can't say &quot;go look at Laurence's posts in forum X&quot; without telling them who Laurence is). It might also be that people are just more inclined to include the real names of people that they don't like, in the hope that others outside the fandom will see what that person is like. This is not ideal editing, but if the person concerned doesn't request the removal of their name, it will not be changed - the article will be reworded to be based solely on facts if possible, or removed if not.<br /> <br /> :The question perhaps shouldn't be &quot;why are real names included at all&quot;, but &quot;why aren't real names included for everyone?&quot;. Ultimately, aritcles should be under the name which people would link to, and so that is the only name that '''has''' to be there. In the furry fandom, this is more often than not the person's fan name, if they have one. They may only use this name, or they may use their real name as well. If so, people may or may not decide to add it, but it's not considered critical if it's not usually used. Even if a person's real name ''is'' regularly used, in general we will on request remove a person's real name and replace it with their fan name/nickname when describing them, whether or not they are/have been members of the fandom. However, members of the fandom are a) more likely to request this, becuase more of them come here, b) are (slightly) more likely to have such a request accepted (because if non-members are listed here it is usually because they are either famous or infamous, not just because they're furry), and c) are more likely to have such nicknames to use in the first place (we can't exactly say &quot;The comic Fuzzy Things, authored by {blank} . . .&quot;).<br /> <br /> :I'm aware this answer was rather long and rambling, but that's because I'm tired, and it's a complicated issue when talking in general. If you have specific cases you want explained, feel free to point them out. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 02:29, 13 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::GreenReaper, in response to your reply, I have added comments to two talk sections, Sibe and Burned Fur, pointing out what I see as an unfair biasing. I'm interested in your reply on both. <br /> <br /> ::There's also one other possible point on Sibe that you might want to run by an attorney, since the status of Wiki's as &quot;legitimate publications&quot; is still in legal limbo: Sibe is legally a &quot;private figure&quot; and his actions in Furry do not make him, in the legal sense, a &quot;public figure&quot; (both of these are legal terms). As a private individual, he's afforded certain legal protections about what information can be revealed. These protections may or may not cover his criminal record or other information. I think it would be worth your time to consult with someone from the EFF and make sure you haven't crossed the line. While you say that you're just one editor, if no other person can over-rule your edits without your consent, it's your &quot;publication&quot;. As such, even if Sibe were to decide to come after Wikifur ''et al'' for any damages the publication of protected information caused him (if any such protections exist at all), you'd still be on the line. Again, the law regarding this may or may not cover him.<br /> <br /> :::I agree (unlike some) that Sibe is a private figure, and as such someone ''might'' be liable if we were negligent in publishing made-up facts, even if we did not act with the knowledge that they were false (or with reckless disregard as to whether or not they were false). For example, if we said that the Burned Furs burned people, that would be libel without good evidence. However, a glance at the talk page archives and article history should show you that we have been willing to work with concerned parties to ensure the accuracy of the article, and to obtain exact sources for assertions where appropriate. We have no interest in being negligent (and certainly not grossly negligent), because that makes for a poor article.<br /> <br /> :::In contrast, the limitations on information that is actually ''true'' are really quite small, and in general don't apply to us as a private site. I'm not a lawyer, but this situation has come up before and so I've done some research. Criminal records are public information in the State of Washington (and generally speaking in other states). Most other privacy legislation is aimed at restricting what companies can tell third parties about their customers (who they have a contract with), and not about what individuals (who never agreed to any contract) may publish from their own knowledge. The [[Wikipedia:First Amendment to the United States Constitution|First Amendment]] gives us rather sweeping powers in this area that allow us to publish just about anything as long as it is true, and in practice the &quot;due process&quot; terms of the [[Wikipedia:Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution|Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution|Fourteenth Amendment]] extends this to the states as well. Credit card numbers, social security numbers and driver's license number would probably be stuff that should be removed. Other than that, it's pretty much fair game and up to the community to decide what it ''should'' publish, in a moral sense.<br /> <br /> :::[[Wikia:Wikia, Inc.|Wikia]] is able to overrule my edits without my consent. If people feel I'm not doing a good enough job, or that WikiFur is infringing their rights, they should contact them. They have more experience than I do, and I am willing to defer to them. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 19:52, 15 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Hi, Peace from AU ==<br /> Hello, my name is D. Coldheartt. I am the head admin of the Alternative Universe wiki which is also pretty big. I am a big fan of, well furry stuff and creatures and animals so i decided to join here. I was wondering if i could also become a administrator here if at all possib;e. [[User:D. Coldheartt|D. Coldheartt]] 23:44, 12 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : Admin status is generally given to users who have a history of contributing to the wiki. If you're interested in becoming an admin, we recommend following [[Special:Recentchanges]] and contributing to/cleaning up articles, dealing with vandalism, etc.<br /> : I'm curious about this Alternate Universe wiki that you mentioned. Typing &quot;Alternate Universe wiki&quot; into Google [http://www.google.com/search?num=100&amp;hl=en&amp;lr=&amp;safe=off&amp;q=%22Alternative+Universe+wiki%22&amp;btnG=Search brings up zero matches]. [http://www.google.com/search?num=100&amp;hl=en&amp;lr=&amp;safe=off&amp;q=%22Alternative+Universe%22+wiki&amp;btnG=Search A slightly more liberal search] did not help me find it either. Did I misspell or typo something? --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 00:22, 13 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> The AU has actually been down for quite some time and replaced with Vandal Manifest Editthis Wiki. [[User:D. Coldheartt|D. Coldheartt]] 00:24, 13 September 2006 (UTC) WikiTV started at Revived Haven Editthis and moved on to Meta Wiki. Jimbos one of the users alowed into revived haven. [[User:D. Coldheartt|D. Coldheartt]] 00:24, 13 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;q=%22Vandal+Manifest%22&amp;btnG=Google+Search Googling for Vandal Manifest] does not turn up anything.<br /> : [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;q=%22Revived+Haven%22&amp;btnG=Google+Search Googling for Revived Haven] does not turn up anything, either.<br /> : I'm sensing a pattern here. --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 00:32, 13 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: And he first [[:Special:Contributions/D._Coldheartt|spammed a bunch of the admins]] to ask for admin privileges. --[[User:Frizzy|Frizzy]] 00:39, 13 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Heres the link: to VM, http://editthis.info/vandal_manifest/Main_Page a former vandal war site but now good. Ignore the messages the page their is called WikiTV. [[User:D. Coldheartt|D. Coldheartt]] 00:35, 13 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::None of the pages are available for viewing without a password [[User:63.204.227.202|63.204.227.202]] 00:46, 13 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Please ignore [[User:D. Coldheartt]], it is a swfanon sockpuppeter and general wikia attention spammer. Usernames include: Alacaster Torn, The Vanguard, ThatLittleMidget, Proffesor Mephisto, Black Dawn, Licorice ... --[[w:User:Splarka|Splarka]] &lt;small&gt;([[w:User_talk:Splarka|talk]])&lt;/small&gt; 01:47, 13 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Well cheers for the welcome! ==<br /> <br /> Just thought I'd drop by and say thanks for the welcome - wasn't expecting that! Been using this site as a resourse for a good while now so I thought it was only right to inflict a little of myself on here.<br /> <br /> [[Werewolf Of London]]<br /> <br /> == Hey hey ==<br /> <br /> Well I had some problems with creating the article of our new Polish Furries forum and website, but I'm good now.<br /> <br /> Say would t be a problem for you to place an info about http://furry.wikia.com/wiki/Polska_Strefa_Furry on the main page? {{unsigned|TerrisRacoon}}<br /> <br /> :I will update our [[WikiFur:Did you know?|Did you know?]] section on the front page, and include a link to that page, as it is interesting to know about new forums.<br /> <br /> :Oh, and a couple of tips - you should not remove a message on a talk page after you have saved it - it should be left on the page so that the person can reply. Otherwise there is no record, and it looks as if there has been no message, which is confusing when the window pops up saying &quot;you have new messages&quot;. :-) Also, you can sign your name on Talk: pages with this: &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt;. It gives this sort of result: --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 08:32, 14 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Furry gaming project...? ==<br /> <br /> Seeing as how Wikipedia has a project that concetrates on improving the quality and quantity of gaming articles, may I suggest implementing a similiar project? The amount of games with furry elements is not a small one, and it would be very helpful, if information about those games (most are old, PC DOS titles, which run perfectly under DosBox) was included in one place, for sake of completeness and subject coverage. <br /> <br /> Especially games like [[Project Nomad]] could use that coverage, as they have literally truckloads of content, and it would be helpful to store it in one place, much like [[Albion (video game)|Albion]]'s articles are done.<br /> <br /> Just a thought.<br /> <br /> Oh, and what is the general stance about making articles about oneself? Mikael Grizzly 22:30, 14 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Seems like a nice enough idea. We already have [[WikiFur:Project Fursuit Central|something similar]] for [[fursuit]]ing, although that's been slow recently. The trouble is there are few &quot;meta&quot;-editors at this time, and so you may find it hard to gather contributors to help you out. I would suggest that you concentrate on one or two particular projects at a time so that it doesn't bog down in needing to do 10 different things at once. :-) <br /> <br /> :Articles about yourself are fine as long as they are neutrally written, like any other article. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 04:19, 15 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Need help putting up an article ==<br /> <br /> I want to put up an essay that's under the GNU Free Docement Lisence, and I want to ask for a little bit of tips on how to do it before I actually do it. Or even how I'm suppose to do it. --[[User:Foxpaws-zupe|Foxpaws]] 00:52, 15 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Could you be more specific about what you're trying to do? If you have a GFDL essay from another place, then in general it's fine to just copy it here into a new page as long as you give attribution for the people who wrote it (for example, with Wikipedia you would link to the history page) and preferably link back to the original source. Of course, it would have to fit the topic of the wiki, and be neutral in tone. If it was not neutral (whether or not you wrote it), you should probably avoid putting it in the main namespage - it should go a subpage of your User: space - e.g [[User:Foxpaws-zupe/Article name]] - and it should have a note up at the top similar to that of the [[:Template:personal-article|personal-article template]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 04:22, 15 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Hey! I'll be alright, I guess. I'll fix the entries up s'more later.<br /> <br /> I should remember to tag that 'minor edit' box more often. *nods*<br /> <br /> Thank you<br /> <br /> == Hi and thankies ==<br /> <br /> Hi and thank you for this brill site {{unsigned|Fox92}}<br /> <br /> == Happy Birthday! ==<br /> <br /> *24 wolftytailswat-spankings!* --[[User:Chibiabos|Chibiabos]] 03:45, 20 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Im sorry for the late reply, but thank you for welcoming me ==<br /> <br /> Im afraid I am not use to this place yet and still have a long way to go on it. But im glad that hospitality is shown here ^_^<br /> <br /> From [[Duragan]] {{unsigned|Duragan}}<br /> <br /> == All Fur Fun now has official dates! ==<br /> <br /> Hi there! Could you please edit the convention area to show that [[All Fur Fun]] will be held March 31 - April 1, 2007? Thanks much! :D<br /> <br /> --[[User:Teeka|Teeka]] 01:11, 29 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Done, and I hope you guys have fun! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 01:52, 29 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Nah~ ==<br /> <br /> Just tell me if I should remove the images. They are censored though, but you still see enough~ {{unsigned|Garyu}}<br /> <br /> == Vandalism ==<br /> <br /> Hey GreenReaper, thanks for repairing the damage to my page as well as other I may not know about - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 20:26, 29 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :You're welcome! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 20:30, 29 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Spam cleanup script ==<br /> <br /> I have no idea if that was a valid spam cleanup script or if it was an elaborately created vandalism technique, but either way, it was blanking whole pages rather than just removing &quot;spam&quot; links (which weren't actually spam), so I blocked it temporarily. Feel free to unblock it if it isn't actually something trying to erase the whole Wiki. ;3 [[User:SpazKitty|Spaz Kitty]] 02:42, 5 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Higgs Raccoon ==<br /> <br /> May I nominate [[User_talk:Higgs Raccoon|Higgs Raccoon]] for upgrading to admin? In addition to contributing to numerous articles, he's helped revert vandalism on more than one occasion. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 15:07, 6 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Let's try that out, then. [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&amp;limit=500&amp;target=Higgs_Raccoon Contributions] are a little low (and lacking discussion edits), but they '''are''' all good, and it's not like there aren't a couple of admins with fewer. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 15:27, 6 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Well, this is quite an honour. Thankyou Mwalimu for the nomination, and GreenReaper for OKing it. Quite unexpected, really - as noted above, I haven't been here very long and haven't contributed a lot as yet. Hopefully the whole Wikifur novelty won't suddenly wear off. Oh well, if that happens I guess what GreenReaper giveth he can also taketh away! ;) --[[User:Higgs Raccoon|Higgs Raccoon]] 10:13, 7 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Technically, no - I have to go to Wikia for that. That's why I don't generally give it out without recommendation. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 22:46, 7 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Vandalism War! ==<br /> <br /> A user going by the name of [[User:Arwel Parry]] is vandalizing a number of pages right now! I'd reverting edits as fast as I can. Always happy to help! --[[User:Robomilk|Tori]] 11:18, 7 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Fixed vandalism with [[User:Arcturus]] --[[User:Robomilk|Tori]] 11:33, 7 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Where you be on Eye Arr Cee? ==<br /> <br /> *cough* Um.. ignore the poor rhyming, just wondering where you is as I've snuck back to the IRC channel the last few days and haven't seen you on at all. o.O --[[User:Nidonocu|Nidonocu]] - [[User talk:Nidonocu|talk]] [[Image:Trans 168.png|16px|Nidonocu]] 20:24, 8 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> :...Now I see your note, make it '''bigger''' next time. X) --[[User:Nidonocu|Nidonocu]] - [[User talk:Nidonocu|talk]] [[Image:Trans 168.png|16px|Nidonocu]] 20:30, 8 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == SilvrWingsDragon ==<br /> <br /> He! Its me, Carrie, from Anthrocon. I tickled you, remember? And I think I had the pupper fox plushie. :) Whats up?<br /> <br /> You can, btw, reach me at AminElea@aol.com<br /> <br /> :Hi there! I do indeed remember . . . *hides*<br /> <br /> :I'm doing fairly well - indeed, I just went to [http://conclavesf.org another convention] last weekend (which I need to actually write about sometime this week). I'll try and contact you when I get back home - still busy at work right now. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 21:39, 10 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Furcadia origins? ==<br /> <br /> I am not trying to be a pain in the rear here, but I wonder about the claim on the furcadia article that says that it has been around since 1996. I was following this stuff back in the late nineties and I was pretty surprised to hear that. Wolfhome was one of the first websites featuring multi-user chat and I don't remember furcadia.com being around. We were running a company by 2000. While I didn't do an exhaustive search, I am surprised that a furry chat site that would have been a direct competitor to Wolfhome escaped me. Wolfhome started on Gre7g Luterman's site, TempleOfLuna.com, back on October 31st, 1999.<br /> <br /> The other thing that I discovered is that the whois record for Furcadia.com was created in 1999 (see below). Add to that a web search on the &quot;Wayback Machine&quot; http://web.archive.org, which tracks websites back to the mid nineties, which shows that in 1999, furcadia.com was a placeholder site:<br /> <br /> http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://furcadia.com<br /> <br /> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /> <br /> Here's that whois record:<br /> <br /> Registrant:<br /> DRAGON'S EYE PRODUCTIONS, INC.<br /> 767 Sam Bass Rd<br /> Round Rock, TX 78680-1048<br /> US<br /> <br /> Domain Name: FURCADIA.COM<br /> <br /> Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:<br /> DRAGON'S EYE PRODUCTIONS, INC. sanct@furcadia.com<br /> 767 Sam Bass Rd<br /> Round Rock, TX 78680-1048<br /> US<br /> +358407672478 fax: +358427672478<br /> <br /> <br /> Record expires on 03-Feb-2011.<br /> Record created on 03-Feb-1999.<br /> Database last updated on 10-Oct-2006 21:10:34 EDT.<br /> <br /> Domain servers in listed order:<br /> <br /> NS.FURCADIA.COM 72.36.220.234<br /> NS2.FURCADIA.COM 72.36.220.239<br /> <br /> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /> <br /> None of that is meant to take away from the current success of furcadia, but I wonder what supports the claim that they were running a website back in 1996?<br /> <br /> Here's the web archive for templeofluna.com:<br /> <br /> http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://templeofluna.com<br /> <br /> BTW, thanks for providing this great site focusing on the Furry community!<br /> <br /> [[User:Wunderwood|underdog]]<br /> <br /> :Hi there, underdog! The claim is that they were running Furcadia (the client-based MMO experience) since 1996, not Furcadia.com (the website), and I think it is substantiated by [http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.furry/browse_frm/thread/46c69d49b74b57d0 this thread] from May 1999 in which Dr. Cat states in passing that it &quot;opened two and a half years ago&quot;. There is also [http://web.archive.org/web/19981205041337/www.realtime.net/furcadia/ this website (www.realtime.net/furcadia)] from December 1998, at which point they appear to already have had 400,000 visits.<br /> <br /> :As for the website - you're welcome! I didn't exactly do it by myself, though - you can [http://wikia.com/wikistats/EN/TablesWikiaFURRY.htm#wikipedians thank the people here], along with the hundreds of other editors for filling it with content. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 02:48, 11 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Ah, ok.. I read that wrong ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for the clarification. I had interpreted that pretty narrowly before. {{Unsigned|Wunderwood}}<br /> <br /> == Hiya there ==<br /> <br /> yeah, I found that I had a page to edit and submit info to, and thanks for the help offer. Ill be editing when I can, and look forward to contributing here. :3 {{unsigned|Zippo}}<br /> <br /> == Wikipedia's techniques on trolls ==<br /> <br /> Wikipedia usually reverts banned troll's comments and semi-protects pages. It works better. [[User:Tretonin|Tretonin]] 10:51, 13 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :It works for their situation. We have to make our own decisions and see how they work out. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 21:43, 14 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == From Buska ==<br /> <br /> Hi and thanks for the welcome! I tried creating my own page as well. I really need to study the Wiki format a bit more however ^^ {{unsigned|Buska}}<br /> <br /> == RE:Page name correction ==<br /> <br /> Hey GreenReaper, thanks for the move, I will try not to make mistakes like that in the future - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 00:26, 20 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :No worries. We make them too, sometimes. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 00:29, 20 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Hey GreenReaper, I was wondering if you could perform another page name edit, could you add an &quot;s&quot; to my Remalon page turning it into &quot;Remalons&quot; (since there are five characters in that page), I would really appreciate it, thank you - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 18:20, 22 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Once again, thanks - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 18:26, 22 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Extinctioners main page fixing ==<br /> <br /> Hey GreenReaper, sorry to drop questions on a regular basis but I was wondering if you might know or see a way to modify or re-arrange the list of groups in the Extinctioner's main page, to some how make it appear more neat, thank you - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 18:17, 20 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == I have readed that you use Openbsd to host the wiki ==<br /> <br /> Hello Greenreaper, thanks for your work on this Furry Wiki, I am trying to install mediawiki on openbsd, but can not login on mediawiki, can you help me? after i have logged in sucessfully, then i try to use the preferences page and it say that i am not logged in<br /> <br /> thanks in advance. {{unsigned|Aureliof}}<br /> <br /> :I'm afraid I don't really have any idea why that is not working for you, other than that possibly you do not have sessions or cookies setup properly in your browser or web server. I do not administrate the server side of WikiFur, and so I know little of the details of hosting it. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 08:16, 21 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == DAMN YOU!!! ==<br /> <br /> You ALLWAYS seem to be around to delete my...um...helpful changes no matter what time and what wiki I'm hitting :(<br /> <br /> WHY?????????????????? {{unsigned|88.106.208.18}}<br /> <br /> :Because I'm everywhere - I'm like the wind . . . --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 20:32, 21 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == That was odd ==<br /> <br /> I see that earlier today you blocked User:216.224.121.151. It struck me as odd that there have also been a couple of good edits from the very similar address User:216.224.121.141 (knowing that sometimes a vandal who gets blocked will simply switch to a different workstation, which often has a very similar IP; this time, however, that did not appear to be the case).<br /> <br /> Then I tried to make a couple of edits, while logged in, and was told that I couldn't because my IP address, 216.224.121.151, has been blocked. I found this really odd, since I was logged in, I have admin privs, and on top of it all, the IP address of the machine I connect from doesn't look anything like that (and just to be sure, I checked with http://www.whatismyip.com/ ). I retried a couple of times, and my edit finally took - not sure what changed, but there you go.<br /> <br /> Then finally, I ran nslookup on 216.224.121.151, and it returned ut4.sjc.wikia-inc.com. I tried 216.224.121.141 and it returned cache1.sjc.wikia-inc.com. Curioser and curioser. Is there something funky going on at wikia.com that's causing incoming edits to look like they came from their server instead of the actual originating user or IP address? --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 18:57, 25 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :It does indeed seem odd. I've also recieved two separate messages about this from other users. Unblocked this for now. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 19:26, 25 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: I got a response from John Q. over on the Wikia mailing list saying that this is fixed/will be fixed shortly. --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 00:25, 26 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: Hmm. Maybe not quite fixed yet, I had trouble getting that edit to go through... --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 00:29, 26 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thanks for the welcome ^^ ==<br /> <br /> Hey, thanks for the welcome to WikiFur. This is my first time actually registering for a Wiki community, so it'll be a learning experience, but I'm looking forward to adding what I can, when I can. Oh, question -- how do I reply to things on my Talk page? {{unsigned|IanKeith}}<br /> <br /> :Welcome to wiki, then, too. :-) You can reply to others in the way you did just now. You should generally sign your names when on talk pages, though, so that people know who left the message without going to the history. You can use &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt; for this, or just &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt; if you don't want the date. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 02:54, 26 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == timeline tag ==<br /> <br /> Hi. I just solve timeline bug and you can use it again --[[User:Inez|Inez]] 10:10, 27 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Thank you, Inez! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 12:47, 27 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == NO CARRIER ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for cleaning up after my messes. :) I'll get the wiki standards hammered through my thick skull eventually!&lt;br&gt;<br /> -[[User:Furvert|Furv]]<br /> <br /> == How to do bot vandal rollbacks ==<br /> <br /> In cases of mass vandalism (page blanking and the like) it is acceptable to use the &quot;bot&quot; rollback method. To do this, go to the user's contribution page by clicking their name or IP address in the userlist, then add &amp;bot=1 to the URL (or ?bot=1 if there is no ? already in the URL). Press enter to reload that URL, and then just open all the rollback links in new tabs. This will give the initial edit a &quot;bot&quot; flag, so that only your revert will be visible in [[Special:Recentchanges|recent changes]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 19:04, 27 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Okay, I'll do it that way next time. By the way, when responding to a user talk comment like this, is there a way to have the thread automatically replicated in the other user's talk page? I've always done it by manually copying the response in both places. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 19:09, 27 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Not that I know of. Would be nice! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 19:11, 27 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> 'twas fun playing with you furries. --[[User:149.9.0.27|149.9.0.27]] 19:23, 27 October 2006 (UTC) =)<br /> <br /> == more vandalism ==<br /> <br /> Hey GreenReaperm, were getting vandalized including the front page! - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 14:16, 28 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> : O NOES VANDALISM @_@ --[[User:85.214.66.61|85.214.66.61]] 14:23, 28 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> WERE UNDER ATTACK! - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 22:01, 28 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Chinmyou ==<br /> Thanks for the welcome. X3<br /> [[User:Chinmyou|Chinmyou]] 06:06, 29 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Extinctioners Wikipedia page deletion threat again ==<br /> <br /> Hey GreenReaper, Sorry to constantly bother you but I just saw on the talk page of the Wikipedia.org Extinctioners page that it will be coming under a deletion threat within several days claiming wikifur IS NOT a reliable source (yeah right), here is the link to the page - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Extinctioners - I hope it will not be removed, I don't understand it, they have pages for other furry comics but they seem the think this one is not worthy but if you think its not worth fighting over, I will understand, thank you - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 13:16, 30 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Unfortunately, WikiFur ''isn't'' a reliable source, at least not in Wikipedia's terms. Someone could come by and change anything at any time. Articles are not guaranteed to be peer-reviewed - indeed, there is no particularly certainty that information on WikiFur has been checked by anyone. Contributions are, in many cases, anonymous. If you want to have an article at Wikipedia, you need to give proper references to the primary sources (the comics themselves), or to secondary sources that have been published in some kind of guaranteed editorially-reviewed medium, like a comic review in a published [[fanzine]] (or better).<br /> <br /> :Consider: You wrote most of the pages on WikiFur about the comic. Who's to say you weren't making up half of the stuff you wrote? You can see their situation - they can't just rely on your words for its accuracy. It is not that it is a furry comic. It is the entire article is your original creation, and you've not backed it up with links that show the source of the facts that you state. Go look at [[Wikipedia:Samuel Conway|this article]] for an example of what I mean. There are probably worse articles, but that does not excuse the one about ''Extinctioners''. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 05:12, 31 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Thank you, I appreciate what you have told me and I finally can see where wikipedia is coming from, I will leave this decision in the hands of those at Wikipedia (since I am unable to try and fight for it to remain again) and just continue with the one here, thanks for your help :-) - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 23:48, 31 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Redirecting articles? ==<br /> <br /> I was poking around in the Templates section to see how I could re-direct a link that currently goes nowhere to an article that is relevant. I wanted to link &quot;Ace of Spades&quot; and &quot;Morrigan's War&quot; to the &quot;Empires&quot; article but could not see a way to do it..? Thank you. {{unsigned|Kette' Barona}}<br /> <br /> :To do that, go to the pages [[Ace of Spades]] and [[Morrigan's War]] and put &lt;nowiki&gt;#REDIRECT [[Empires]]&lt;/nowiki&gt; in there. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 02:22, 1 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == FA and such ==<br /> <br /> I just wanted to apologize, again-- though I guess to you directly-- for what I did the other day. I was responding more as damage control to prevent an explosion of drama rather than following the guidelines stipulated. This whole thing, though not directly affecting me, has seemed to've killed my patience and thinking. Thankfully it's cleared up now.<br /> <br /> It won't happen again. [[User:Verix|Verix]] 17:57, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :It's understandable. No worries. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 19:12, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Uploading avatar pic quesion ==<br /> <br /> Hey GreenReaper, sorry to bug you but I have a question, there is a pic I would like to use as my avatar (or fursona if thats what its called), I have gotten the artists permission (no via e-mail), I was just wondering what porceedures I need to do before uploading such a pic, here are the links:<br /> *Shadow-Wolf (artist) - http://shadow-wolf.deviantart.com/<br /> *the picture I want to use - http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/8577254/?qo=165&amp;q=by%3Ashadow-wolf&amp;qh=sort%3Atime+-in%3Ascraps<br /> *and finally the message giving me permission to use this pic - http://my.deviantart.com/notes/1/52363257<br /> <br /> I just want to ensure I do not mess up on this matter, I would really appreciate your help with this<br /> <br /> :I can't see that note, probably since they're private, but for that sort of thing we're fine with taking people's word for it unless the artist complains. Just make sure to mention the name of the artist in the picture description, and select &quot;fursona&quot; in the dropdown license box when you upload it. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 20:13, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :heres the note - <br /> <br /> From: *shadow-wolf<br /> Date: Nov 4, 2006, 12:17:03 PM<br /> sure, go for it! Could you credit me in your journal or something, link back to the original picture? It'd be a great plug for me if you could. ^^ Thank you for having the courtasy to ask first <br /> <br /> ~nymph<br /> <br /> ----------<br /> RVDDP2501 said the following:<br /> <br /> Hi Shadow Wolf, I'm RVDDP2501, listen, I was wondering if I could get your permission to use your Venom Pic as my avatar, I really like it and I'm a huge Venom fan, I just wanted to ask your permission first, thanks<br /> <br /> P.S. I'm the Extinctioners wikifur page creator <br /> <br /> <br /> and finally (forgive my ignorence) what exactly is the drop box your refering to? - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 20:51, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> wait... I think I've found what your talking about - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 20:54, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Other-Language Wikis ==<br /> <br /> We've talked before about a possible Swedish-language furry wiki. It is likely that I will find myself with a good chunk of free time (or at least that what free time I have won't be eaten up by pesky things like take-home schoolwork) in a month or so - would it still be of interest that I go ahead and request the wiki to be made? (Last we discussed it on LJ, I kind of got heaped with massive amounts of Stuff soon afterwards, unfortunately.) I could probably get [[Ricadonna]] to link it from the [[SveaFur]] homepage as well, so that there'd be at least a few contributors more or less guaranteed. --[[User:Quotingmungo|quoting_mungo]] 15:13, 8 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Someone needs to learn to think before she talks. I also meant to ask if you have a preference for a Wikia-hosted wiki (would it help with organization, for instance?) or if it could be privately hosted for all you care? I know the host I plan on moving to makes it ridiculously simple to install a wiki, so if it's all the same to you that might be a better route, as that also eliminates the ads? I'm just disorganized today, sorry. --[[User:Quotingmungo|quoting_mungo]] 15:29, 8 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I'd still be very interested in seeing more furry wikis in different languages. As the one who intends to do the work to found the wiki, it's up to you to decide where it should be. :-) I think Wikia is a good choice for those who don't want to be dealing with server-side issues or costs. If you believe that the technical ability to start and maintain the wiki software is available (whether you or they can provide it), and if you are sure that the hosting will be maintained, then there's no problem with hosting it anywhere. For various reasons, I felt it was suitable for the English language furry wiki to be here, but it doesn't mean others have to. We can link back and forth wherever you are. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 16:22, 8 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I talked to my boyfriend, whom I will be sharing the bandwidth with, and unless I magically get an insane permanent-ish workload, it sounds as though I'll privately host the wiki when we get set up at the new host. Would put it somewhere around early December, which suits me fine as that puts it past most of my current deadlines. --[[User:Quotingmungo|quoting_mungo]] 17:41, 8 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> Aaand, I'm slow at getting things done, as usual. I'm still working on this, and it should get somewhere relatively soon (or so I hope), so I just wanted to draw your attention to one [http://furry.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Quotingmungo#Sverige_Furry little thing]. Whether or not you feel the Swedish wiki logo should have anything in common with WikiFur's (font and general text layout is what's in question here, I have an idea of what I want to do instead of the pawprint graphic) is totally up to you. --[[User:Quotingmungo|quoting_mungo]] 08:52, 14 January 2007 (UTC)<br /> :I'm personally fine with furry wikis in other languages having similar logos to WikiFur, as long as they ''act'' essentially like WikiFur as well (that is, the purpose and general &quot;spirit&quot; of the site remains the same, though obviously the details of the policies would develop based on its own community). For example, I wouldn't want a German equivalent of [[Furry Horrors Wiki]] using it - that wouldn't fit in with the expectations that users have of the logo. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 09:03, 14 January 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::Thank you, I appreciate the quick response. --[[User:Quotingmungo|quoting_mungo]] 09:07, 14 January 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == More All Fur Fun stuff! ==<br /> <br /> Hi GreenReaper! All Fur Fun (the new furry convention) has a new website up and running. It's already linked, but I was hoping someone could edit the convention's entry to show that we're a bit more organized now, hehe! I'd do it myself, but I tend to do Very Wrong Things when I try to edit wiki pages, so I'd rather have someone with experience do it. ;D<br /> <br /> Thanks in advance! :D<br /> <br /> --[[User:Teeka|Teeka]] 02:36, 11 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Did it last night, but forgot to note that here. If I've missed anything, or if you develop more details over time, do feel free to add it in. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 23:50, 11 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thanks for the offer ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for the offer, and the cleanup of my page. If it would be at all possible, would you please make my page more wiki friendly? I'm not the best wiki editor. Much Thanks in advance. -- [[Jaie_Davis]]<br /> <br /> == RVDDP2501 character name change request ==<br /> <br /> Hey GreenReaper, how are you doing, listen, I'm sorry to ask you to do this for me yet again but I need two character's names changed, the characters [[Slash]] and [[Short]], I need the last name WhiteEye added to the both of them so they would be e.g. Slash WhiteEye, thanks, I would really appreciate your help with this - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 17:29, 16 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Thanks - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 11:33, 17 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> It was the least I could do to honor the memory of a fine person and a dedicated Furry (He was a Cheetah because he had freckles...lol).<br /> <br /> I know all of you furries who knew him must miss him terribly. <br /> <br /> I know I still find myself thinking of David from time to time and wish his life had not been taken away so violently and suddenly.<br /> <br /> David's death was followed the week after by my Mother's death and the week after that my Grandma passed.<br /> <br /> Three loved ones in three weeks.....you never know when they are gonna go...so make sure they know how much you love them...while they are here. <br /> <br /> I am not a Furry, but, your members are really great people. Keep the fur flying!<br /> <br /> == Nice job on the Did You Know section... ==<br /> <br /> I just wanted to say, nice job on it. I never knew that CSI or any sutch show even '''knew''' about the fandom, let alone made episodes with dramatically skewed ideas. (Yiffing parties! :) hmm... whered they hear of those? I'd REALLY like to know... :b ) I wonder, I think theres an episode of law and order with furr... also, nice for ptting it on the front page. [[User:CchristianTehWazzit|cchristian]]<br /> :Glad you like it! We should really update it more frequently. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 23:19, 23 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Hey, I'd be happy to fill it in for you or do something to help if you gave me some material or something. :) [[User:CchristianTehWazzit|cchristian]]<br /> :::Feel free to have a look through [[Special:Newpages]] to find some interesting tidbits, then [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Template:Did_you_know&amp;action=edit replace the current text] and add your new stuff to the [[WikiFur:Did you know?|archive page]]. There are other suggestions for ways to help on the [[WikiFur:Community Central|Community Central]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 14:45, 24 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Wikifur page problem ==<br /> <br /> Hey GreenReaper, I don't know if this is a problem caused by my computer, but recently the pages on wikifur seem a little out of pleace, all the user access links (contributions, watch list, etc.) are covered up by the page I'm looking at plust the page options (discussion, edit, etc.) are also covering up the pages name, the only thing I have done is update my internet explorer to 7.0, is this in fact a problem with my computer or is it something that is wrong with wikifur, please let me know, thanks - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 14:24, 26 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :This appears to be a problem with Wikia - they have changed the CSS in a way that is incompatible with IE7. I've sent them a little note about this, hopefully it will be fixed within a day or so. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 21:16, 26 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Thanks, let me know when this has been fixed cause I reverted back to the previous version of IE since the problem was starting to annoy me :-) - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 21:30, 26 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Image:Kirru sized.png ==<br /> <br /> Hello GreenReaper,<br /> <br /> This is in regards to ''[[:Image:Kirru sized.png]]''. It has not been tagged with a copyright status. This can be a complicated area, so I can try to help if you need any. The Wikipedia [[Wikipedia:WP:IUP|Image use policy]] may give some background, but it isn't policy here.<br /> <br /> To deal with this image, there are a few choices:<br /> <br /> * If you are the copyright holder, release it under a free license, for example:<br /> ** [[Wikipedia:Public domain|Public domain]] &lt;nowiki&gt;{{PDImage}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;<br /> ** [[Wikipedia:Creative Commons|Creative Commons]] Attribution-ShareAlike &lt;nowiki&gt;{{Cc-by-sa-2.5}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;<br /> ** [[Wikipedia:GFDL|GFDL]] &lt;nowiki&gt;{{GFDL}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;<br /> * If you are asserting that this image is usable under fair use, add an appropriate fair use tag. A very basic summary is that fair use is used for commentary, criticism and review on the image when no free image could be used instead. Some fair use tags are:<br /> ** Logos: &lt;nowiki&gt;{{logo}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;<br /> ** Covers: &lt;nowiki&gt;{{Cover}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;<br /> ** Comic panels: &lt;nowiki&gt;{{Comic-panel}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;<br /> * If the image is already under a free license, provide information on the license, and tag the image if you can.<br /> * If you would like the image to be deleted, ask any [[WikiFur:Administrators|administrator]]<br /> <br /> To see a list of current copyright tags available on WikiFur, see [[:Category:Image copyright tags]]<br /> If the copyright status is not resolved, the image may be deleted.<br /> <br /> Unless you have a question for me specifically, I'd prefer responses on the page for the image. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 01:27, 28 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == My Wikifur page ==<br /> <br /> Hey, thanks for the help, I'm kinda new to this stuff ^.^<br /> <br /> Little question tho, my page is also in the 'hybrid' catagory... Shouldn't be, since I'm 100% pure fox. How can I change that? [[User:Darkfoxx|Darkfoxx]] 14:22, 1 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : I took care of that for you [[User:Simba B|Simba B]] 15:32, 1 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: Thanks, Simba. Darkfoxx: The categories an article is in are defined by the &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Category:]]&lt;/nowiki&gt; tags, usually at the bottom of the page. Remove them, and it removes an article from the category. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 15:43, 1 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == WikiFur Central/Header ==<br /> <br /> It appears that since your latest edits to [[Template:WikiFur Central/Header]], it is now covering up the [[Template:Newsbar]], at least when I view it under Firefox. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 00:23, 3 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Eh, never mind. Looks like you fixed it. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 00:25, 3 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::''Interested users should see [[Talk:WikiFur Furry Central#Featured article length]] for more details.'' --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 17:28, 4 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Species ==<br /> <br /> Is it okay to change species? cause i don't think a wolf fits me well . . . [[User:Wolfie|Wolfie]] 02:07, 5 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :it's fine, but changing your'e account name here? that's a thing... [[User:CchristianTehWazzit|cchristian]]<br /> <br /> ::Nobody's going to stop you doing either, though if you change your name, let me know what it is and I can move the appropriate pages over so that the history is retained, rather than just copying and pasting it. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 03:01, 5 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I guess i would want my new name to be Skunk-Raccoon. [[User:Wolfie|Wolfie]] 03:10, 5 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Not going for something a little more . . . original? The danger of such names is that you might change over time, and also other people tend to do the same thing (see [[Tigerwolf]]). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 03:13, 5 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::Original? Well . . . i'll try, uhm . . . could it taken from a band name or something? [[User:Wolfie|Wolfie]] 15:39, 5 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::It's up to you. I just want to help try and avoid name clashes in the future. The advantage of making up a name that nobody else has is that . . . well, nobody else has it. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 16:09, 5 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::I think i came up with my name . . . &quot;Basic Bassist&quot;. It's not the coolest, but, it works, i guess :) [[User:Wolfie|Wolfie]] 22:12, 5 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::Cool. Let me know when you're sure, and if you want me to move the pages about you to a new location (perhaps after you register that as a nickname here). [[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 22:18, 5 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::So, i just register that name, and that's it? [[User:Wolfie|Wolfie]] 22:25, 5 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::Well, and tell me here. '''*grin*''' [[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 22:30, 5 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::::Huh? [[User:Wolfie|Wolfie]] 22:33, 5 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::::&quot;I wouldn't want to move your user page until you've registered the name, so tell me here once you have.&quot; [[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 22:46, 5 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::::::Alright [[User:Basic Basist|Basic Basist]] 14:53, 6 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::::::::Done! [[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 15:03, 6 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::::::::Thank you!!! '''*hugs*''' [[User:Basic Basist|Basic Basist]] 23:56, 6 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::::::::::I spelled &quot;Bassist&quot; wrong . . . could you fix it? [[User:Basic Basist|Basic Basist]] 02:27, 9 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::::::::::Sure. [[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 02:48, 9 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Greetings==<br /> Hello, thanks for the welcome! I've removed some unnecessary personal info from a vandal's userpage, since no one here has checkuser it would be of no benefit to them. [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=User:Jewbo_Wales&amp;oldid=104070 Here] is the version with the IP info on it, in case you need to request a checkuser with the staff. ^_^ [[User:Redfur|Redfur]] 04:50, 6 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica&amp;curid=3443&amp;diff=104122&amp;oldid=104094 Heh] ==<br /> <br /> I (&lt;nowiki&gt;http://encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/Ket&lt;/nowiki&gt;) didn't really consider it vandalism, so I removed that section. Hope that's fine-[[User:SkippFox|SkippFox]] 09:10, 6 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Block of 71.98.64.0/18 ==<br /> <br /> Are you sure about blocking that entire subnet? We've only had two vandlism incidents from there over the last 24 hours. I'm concerned that we might exclude potential contributors from that block. May I propose that we unblock that block and reblock only if we keep having incidents of vandalism from there? --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 21:21, 6 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> :If you wish. It's only 16384 addresses, though - I doubt we have contributors and trolls in that same block. [[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 22:09, 6 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thanks for the welcome. ==<br /> <br /> I'm slowly getting myself back onto the net, so this was as good a place to start as any. :D {{unsigned|Khromat}}<br /> <br /> == Reversed clock time? ==<br /> <br /> Note the [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=High_Tail_Hall&amp;action=history edit history] for [[High Tail Hall]], specifically, my recent minor revisions. WTF. The &quot;on second thought&quot; revision should have been applied after the correction of possessive form. Repeating the edit seems to have been effective, but I'd rather not see that kind of glitch happening to anyone else. -- [[User:Siege|Siege]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:Siege|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 10:08, 10 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> :This is due to de-synched clocks on the various Wikia servers... if you look at the actual revision numbers, you'll see that 105229 is listed as occuring after 105230. This ''should'' only affect diff viewing and histories (but can be spotted by looking at the numbers). We are attempting to find the reason for the time desynchings, but this happens every once in a while. I've asked the techies to see if there is an easy way to fix these (it should be a simple as swapping the timestamps of any revisions that are not chronologically sequential, maybe). --[[w:User:Splarka|Splarka]] &lt;small&gt;([[w:User_talk:Splarka|talk]])&lt;/small&gt; 10:34, 10 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Request ==<br /> <br /> Ok, the discussion seems to have died on the talk page, so I'll ask you personally: can you just delete the info on Aardvark, as he seems to have moved on to other wikis? He hasn't vandalized here in about two months, I don't see the purpose. I understand he tried to get it removed a while back, but was... none too friendly about it and vandalized pages. Well, while that's not the only reason I registered, it's part of it - to get rid of his personal info. I've removed it from the [[ED]] article already and several editors, including yourself, have had their attentions drawn to edits to that article, but no one has reverted. Does this mean you feel it's not necessary? Let's say he goes for the rest of 2006 without vandalizing WikiFur - would you consider deleting the vandal page for him then?<br /> <br /> ALso, someone has brought up that I may be Blu Aardvark... I'm open to having a staff member checkuser me to prove I'm not. I've actually edited elsewhere under other accounts - I would assume that's allowed on Wikia for privacy reasons, but they can at least tell you I'm located far from Blu Aardvark and edit elsewhere constructively. [[User:Redfur|Redfur]] 13:34, 12 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> *You there? WOuld this be better handled by email? Or are you unconcerned? I don't mean to pester, but it's been buggin me. [[User:Redfur|Redfur]] 01:38, 13 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I'm here, but I have other things to deal with - work, sponsor relations and quick replies come ahead of replies to things I have to think about. :-)<br /> ::If you don't get reverted on the ED page, then chances are nobody cares. However, I see nothing on the vandalism record page concerned that needs to be removed. There is no mention of the user's real name, or his full address, so it should not come up on searches for that, but it is possible for our users to obtain it if the vandalism resumes. It '''will''' come up on searches for Blu Aardvark (not high, as few pages link to it), but that seems more than appropriate, since the edits were made in connection with that name.<br /> ::As he says himself, he's &quot;opted for the benefits of accountability versus the benefits of anonymity.&quot; If he wants the benefits, he has to be willing to accept the costs as well. We're not about to give his life story (as ED would), but we will say what he did on our wiki, and point to other wikis where he did the same thing so people can see that, yes, there is a pattern here. Our objective is to stop him doing it again, or failing that, be able to respond in a meaningful way by contacting his internet service provider and asking them to enforce their terms of service against a specific customer. I don't see how hiding what he did will help that - I would view it as assurance that I could get away with anything if I waited a few months.<br /> ::What ''will'' happen is that time will pass and eventually people who do happen across it won't care about what wikis he vandalized 5 years ago. He could quite reasonably say on his own page, &quot;Well, yes, this happened, but I've moved on.&quot; I don't think many people are going to believe that after 3 months, though. [[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 15:46, 13 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I guess the info that remains isn't so bad. I've taken his real name out of the pages it links to, so if you insist, I'm only happy you replied. Thanks! [[User:Redfur|Redfur]] 06:39, 14 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thoughts on spam from webstores? ==<br /> <br /> I've seen some links that state a specific item is &quot;available at &lt;insert webstore URL here&gt;&quot; where the website is an ordinary online store not involved with the creation of said item. When does this constitute unwanted spam? If the item can be Googled fairly easily, should we delete such link postings? Should we be supportive if the store is sufficiently furry or furry-friendly? -- [[User:Frizzy|Frizzy]] 01:25, 13 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Well, this depends on the situation, but if the link does provide value to readers I wouldn't remove it. I may even have added it myself. There's a difference between &quot;could be googled fairly easily&quot; and &quot;everyone will know where buy this item, and will do so without being prompted to do so,&quot; and it can often be the difference between a sale and a missed opportunity. I ''would'' probably consider putting a furry-friendly store above a generic link to Amazon.com, but I wouldn't remove a link to Amazon.com if it made it more likely that people would buy whatever it was. I see people buying more furry stuff as a '''good''' thing. *grin* [[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 01:36, 13 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == IRC statistics ==<br /> <br /> I think you should edit it so that it shows it by person, not by nickname. also, it need an update because even though it has the names of people who said only 5 or 6 lines, my names are not listed... I was also wondering, where can I put my stuff about the IRC that I'm working on? thanks Green, [[User:CchristianTehWazzit|- cchristian]]<br /> <br /> == Archive Time? ==<br /> <br /> IMHO, it's time for another User Talk Archive, GR. =3 [[User:SpazKitty|Spaz Kitty]] 23:46, 20 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == This is not cool ==<br /> <br /> encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php?title=User:Dukeotterland&amp;curid=27747&amp;diff=1997066886&amp;oldid=1997066552 That. [[User:Tretonin|Tretonin]] 16:15, 29 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Why are you complaining to GR about that edit? He's not an admin on ED. If you have a problem with my conduct there, you should take it up with the ED admins. (Or feel free to bring it up with me directly if you wish.)<br /> :And, for the record, I made the exact same edit to my userpage over on ED. www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php?title=User:Dmuth&amp;curid=32694&amp;diff=1997066885&amp;oldid=1997066457 --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 16:40, 29 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == because I felt like it... ==<br /> <br /> {{furry treat|being... small... and uh.. green... yeah............................ }}<br /> <br /> ......... '''- ''[[user:cchristianTehWazzit|cchristian]]'' &lt;small&gt;[[user talk:cchristianTehWazzit|talk]]&lt;/small&gt;'''<br /> <br /> == removal of name ==<br /> <br /> Sorry to bother you again, I made a request from you about a year ago pertaining to the removal of my name and desc from your wikifur site(this was done &amp; I thank you for it). I've one further request which I hope is in your power to grant, which is: Could you please remove my name entirely from even pointing to that I was ever on this site? As it stands now when I do a search in google or Yahoo, it immediately pops up at the top of this list even though there is no actual description in the wiki, it still gives a desc of past avatars and the info that I no longer wished to be apart of the site. Thanks in advance<br /> T*o*m N*a*r*e*y &lt;--done to keep the name from cropping up once again :)<br /> <br /> :I have removed your name from the disambiguation page that mentioned it - it should be OK as long as the fan names are only associated with each other and not yours. This was the one that Yahoo particularly liked. I cannot guarantee when they will update their cached version of the page - until they do, it will still show up under your name.<br /> <br /> :I'm a little uncomfortable with removing our talk pages about the exclusion request, since they're essentially our public record of why it's excluded in the first page. It is true that admins can always look, but my view is that if you're hiding something, you should at least not be able to hide the request to hide something. If people care that much about your involvement in a fandom ten years ago, you have to wonder whether they're worth working for . . .<br /> <br /> :Regardless, another administrator has decided to delete it (read: remove it from public view) for now. The short message stating that you requested removal needs to remain on the actual page, regardless of the fate of the actual request, as without that there is no basis for people to avoid writing about you here. The best way to ensure people don't even read that is to make a web page about yourself that is titled with and which mentions your name. That way '''it''' will end up as the main hit for your name, rather than WikiFur, as long as you link it in a few places. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 02:19, 13 January 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> The problem is, is that there is no indication of when I was involved. It just says that I was. I've no idea why my name might be up there as I never really did anything in the fandom except create a few pieces of art and almost immediately deleted them within a few months of their creation. Like it or not, there is a dark stigma attached to that fandom by professionals in the game, vfx, sfx, comics, industries; of which I would liked to have had left behind. {{unsigned|128.195.85.174}}<br /> <br /> :Well, nothing prevented the ''addition'' of a date. :-) I'm guessing a fan who liked your artwork on Yerf started the article about you (it was done by [[Special:Contributions/24.155.47.5|an anonymous user]]). As for the stigma - well, I guess I must be lucky, since I work for a company that's in games and they're not unaware of my fandom activities - heck, I have a picture up in my cubicle, and my boss will be dropping me off at the airport for FC this Thursday. Maybe the rules are different for programmers vs. artists, but I like to think times are changing, too. It gets harder to treat furry fandom as its [[stereotype]] when fans start buying out [[Wikipedia:David L. Lawrence Convention Center|convention centers]] for a weekend. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 22:02, 16 January 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thanks for the welcome ==<br /> <br /> Hey, GreenReaper. Thanks for welcoming me. As for your offer to help, I was wondering if you could give me an idea about what might get my [[Xerxes Qados|fursona's]] article to lose its cleanup tag. {{unsigned|XerxesQ}}<br /> <br /> :Sure. Often, the user who put that tag on will have left a comment in the [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Xerxes_Qados&amp;action=history history]. If it is not clear enough, or if there is no comment there, then you can ask them directly on their talk page. Making sure that an article sounds like an encyclopedia (e.g. avoids the use of an overly-informal tone) is generally a good idea, and the intent of many of the cleanup tags that are put on (we really need a few more specific tags than just cleanup). Of course, you don't have to agree with all of what they think is wrong about the article, and you can take the cleanup tag off once you think it's fine. They might then choose to do nothing, or edit it themselves, or give a more specific discussion on the talk page associated with the article. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 21:32, 13 January 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Search ==<br /> <br /> Just wondering - how do you control the appearance of the links on the left side of the screen, in particular the search box?<br /> <br /> I'm asking not on account of anything to do with WikiFur, but because of a different wiki where I've started doing some edits. On that wiki there is only a search button, and below that you can select to search that wiki, or a Google web search. I would like to suggest to the admins of that wiki that they consider changing it to the Go and Search buttons like we have here on WikiFur. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 22:30, 22 January 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I'm afraid the answer here is &quot;I don't know&quot;. The search box was, I think, tweaked somewhat by [[wikia:Wikia, Inc.|Wikia]]. I would suggest asking some of their techs would be a reasonable next step. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 07:30, 23 January 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == The Lion King MUCK article ==<br /> <br /> Excuse the rollback, but your edit to [[The Lion King MUCK]] doesn't seem to have been made to the most recent version of the article, and I think it'll be easier to re-do the tables then drift back through edit histories and get the rest of the article restored in bits. -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 06:12, 29 January 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Good catch there. I think I must have been looking in an older version of the article to see if it had a History section that had been removed. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 06:15, 29 January 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thanks and hiya! ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for sorting my page out dude! I just got some questions: How do I do picture boxes and am I okay to put more up about the stories and stuff?<br /> Cya! [[User:Darker the Dragon|Darker]]<br /> <br /> :You do picture boxes using the syntax in [[Help:Editing]] (for example: &lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;[[Image:Filename.png|right|thumb|200px|An image floating to the right of 200px width]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt; - but first, you need to [[Special:Upload|upload the image]]. Make sure that the uploaded filename is descriptive. As for your stories, you're welcome to add more information about them, as long as it remains a descriptive piece about the works. Such descriptions should probably remain on the page about you unless they cover a work that has been published in paper form and have a notability aside from yourself (this is a slightly fuzzy boundary, but the majority of short stories and unpublished works lie under it). Oh, and on talk pages, you can sign your conversations with &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt;, and get something like this: --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 17:18, 3 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == page name change request by RVDDP2501 ==<br /> <br /> Hey GreenReaper, Listen, I'm sorry to bother you bu I was wondering if you could change two page names for me, could you add the last name &quot;WhiteEye&quot; to [[Miki]] and [[Rokko]] for me and I stupidly didn't know one could update a pic on any wiki, I uploaded a new pic of the Rokko character, I was wondering if you could delete the previous version called &quot;Extinctioners_cast_Rokko_by_Ebonyleopard.jpg&quot; for me, thank you I awould really appreciate it, thank you - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 11:47, 4 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Looks like [[User:Rat|someone]] already did it. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 16:20, 4 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Ok, thanks :-) - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 16:34, 4 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == just thanking for the welcome ==<br /> <br /> thanx for the welcome, btw is this the correct etiquette on answering usertalk msgs?<br /> <br /> --[[User:Tigro Spottystripes|Tigro Spottystripes]] 03:03, 8 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :You're welcome, and yes, it is right to respond on the other person's talk page unless they specifically say at the top of it that they will watch yours. Some people will have copies of their conversations on both pages, others may just respond on the page of the person they're talking to. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 03:06, 8 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Protected Dragonmorph ==<br /> <br /> Hi there GreenReaper, this is Dragonmorph (for real), can you protect my editing from those unknown Furry haters? --[[User:216.61.101.247|216.61.101.247]] 15:51, 12 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :It seems to be fairly well protected already - the change made by a recent vandal was [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Andres_Chung%2C_Jr.&amp;action=history reverted one minute later]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 18:43, 12 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: Those trolls is gonna start messing up this web again and again. --[[User:216.61.101.247|216.61.101.247]] 20:22, 13 February 2007 (UTC) - Dragonmorph<br /> <br /> :::It's always possible . . . but if they've not managed it this past year and a half, and not for lack of trying, I think we're reasonably secure. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 20:56, 13 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Page move and disambiguation page request ==<br /> <br /> Hey there. I was wondering if you or one of the other admins could move [[Orzel]] to [[Orzel_Aquila]], and add a disambiguation page for [[Orzel]] to link to either [[Orzel_Tastyeagle]] or [[Orzel_Aquila]]. I can't determine how to easily do this myself, so I figure I'll ask you to take care of it for me.<br /> <br /> If there is an easy way to do it, point me to the correct place and I'll take care of it myself.<br /> <br /> Thanks. --[[User:Orzel|Orzel]] 08:15, 15 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Sure! It should be sorted now. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 08:22, 15 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Comics Template ==<br /> <br /> Hey, Reaper sir. I have a proposition.<br /> <br /> I don't know a great deal on the workings of WikiFur, but I am familiar with Wikipedia, and there's one thing I havn't seen here: templates. On Wikipedia, I think in particular of albums, they have -- ah, heck, I'm sure you know what I mean.<br /> <br /> Infobox! That's the name.<br /> <br /> Anyways... My point is that, and correct me if I'm wrong, they don't seem to exist here on wikifur, and assuming there isn't some technical reason for not having them, I think this place can greatly benefit from them. In particular, I'd like to see an infobox for all the comics we have, so that we can give them all a nice, unified look. It would make things look more professional, and it would help organize all the information easier.<br /> <br /> I... think that wound up as more of a ramble than anything else, but yes, that's my idea.<br /> <br /> [[User:Immelmann|Immelmann]] 02:27, 16 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> : *sigh* Wanna know how awesome I am? Apparently there IS such a thing on wikifur. It's just that no one uses them.<br /> Maybe I should propose a project or something to add the to all the comic pages... [[User:Immelmann|Immelmann]] 03:07, 16 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Oh, we do use them,... We are starting to incorporate them to the appropriate entries, but it's a slow process. Your idea of additional infoboxes is quite fine, the problem is time, coding and incorporation (See: [[Forum:Infoboxes]].) [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 03:24, 16 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :There are, as has been mentioned, [[WikiFur:Templates|quite a few templates]]. If you're interested in helping to add them, and think it would add value to the project, go right ahead! We could use the help. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 03:36, 16 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> == What am I==<br /> Hey, i figured youd be the person to ask. I tried looking other places on the wiki, so here it is: Im a 17 year old male into Furry comics and animations(of the adult type). I can see myself engaging in intercourse with anthromoprhic animals, but not animals in real life. I dont fursuit, and im straight. What does this make me on the furry scale? {{unsigned|DJLO}}<br /> <br /> :Hi there! I think I can manage that. Let's take a look on the Official Furry Scale:<br /> &lt;table width=&quot;100%&quot;&gt;<br /> &lt;tr style=&quot;font-weight: 700;text-align: center&quot;&gt;<br /> &lt;td&gt;0<br /> &lt;td&gt;1<br /> &lt;td&gt;2<br /> &lt;td&gt;3<br /> &lt;td&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:red&quot;&gt;4&lt;/span&gt;<br /> &lt;td&gt;5<br /> &lt;td&gt;6<br /> &lt;td&gt;7<br /> &lt;td&gt;8<br /> &lt;td&gt;9<br /> &lt;td&gt;10<br /> &lt;/tr&gt;<br /> &lt;tr&gt;<br /> &lt;td colspan=&quot;11&quot;&gt;<br /> &lt;hr&gt;<br /> &lt;/td&gt;<br /> &lt;/tr&gt;<br /> &lt;tr&gt;<br /> &lt;td&gt;[[Rush Limbaugh]]<br /> &lt;td&gt;[[Mundane]]<br /> &lt;td&gt;[[Nonfur]]<br /> &lt;td&gt;[[:Category:Comics|Comic lovers]]<br /> &lt;td&gt;[[Role-playing|Roleplayers]]<br /> &lt;td&gt;[[Homosexuality|Homosexuals]]<br /> &lt;td&gt;[[Fursuit]]ers<br /> &lt;td&gt;[[Therian|Therians]]<br /> &lt;td&gt;[[Plushophilia|Plushophiles]]<br /> &lt;td&gt;[[Skunkfucker|Skunkf***ers]]<br /> &lt;td&gt;[[Mark Merlino]]<br /> &lt;/tr&gt;<br /> &lt;/table&gt;<br /> You are a '''&lt;span style=&quot;color:red&quot;&gt;4&lt;/span&gt;'''. Hope that helps! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 04:46, 17 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> &lt;small&gt;Note: Anyone who takes the above seriously deserves to. :-)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> :Oh man, that is SO wrong. I like it! --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 19:27, 17 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> haha thanks! [[User:DJLO|DJ]] 20:12, 17 February 2007 (UTC<br /> <br /> So this means the average furry is homosexual? I knew it haha!!--[[User:Tagenar|Tagenar]] 22:10, 17 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Removing a NPOV ==<br /> <br /> I am not sure if I have done enough research, so forgive me for missing a relevant FAQ, but I want to know how to remove a NPOV designation from the entry on Wolfhome. Is there a procedure for this? If it still seems to be a slanted viewpoint, what criteria is there for knowing when it has been successfully reworked?<br /> <br /> On a separate note, I am curious how to sign a document that I've edited... Yeah, I know, I *really* gotta learn how to RTFM someday! :) My posts are showing up with &quot;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wunderwood&quot;... Am I supposed to sign my comments?<br /> :I'm sure GR will forgive me for responding on his talk page, but to sign your comments, just type &lt;nowiki&gt;-- ~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt; and it will autosign it. Also, you can just click on the 2nd button from the right on the toolbar, the button that looks like a squiggly.--[[User:KendricksRedtail|Kendricks Redtail]] 03:30, 17 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Thanks, Kendricks. I will practice by signing this update. :) Anyone want to step up to the plate on the NPOV question? It's not urgent or anything, but I figured since Wolfhome is active now and the article isn't all that acerbic, maybe it should be considered. --[[User:Wunderwood|underdog]] 00:30, 18 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :If you think it has been successfully neutralized, you are welcome to remove the template. If people disagree, they will probably add it back, along with a note to the talk page or in the edit summary. The criteria is the people's consensus opinion of the article. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 00:35, 18 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thanks for the Welcome! ==<br /> <br /> Hi GreenReaper, thanks for welcoming me to WikiFur! I've messaged you once before in the [[Funday_PawPet_Show|FPS]] IRC channel (under the name wolfi386). I have to say, once again, that WikiFur has been an excellent introduction to the furry fandom for me. Being so new to the fandom (my first exposure to fandom-produced furry artwork was roughly three years ago, but I only started exploring the fandom itself about two months ago), I probably won't be able to expand many articles at first, but I'll do my best at copy-editing and [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Glossary#W|wikification]] in the meantime! :) --[[User:Chaos386|chaos386]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:Chaos386|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 18:55, 17 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Just another member saying thank you ==<br /> <br /> Hi GreenReaper, I just also wanted to say thanks for the welcome and kind offer of help, I really appreciate the warm welcome. [[User:CrimsonDivine|Crimson Divine]]<br /> <br /> == Archiving talk pages ==<br /> <br /> How do I archive an over-full Talk page so that it has a &quot;Talk archives&quot; box like this page? [[User:Mitch|Mitch]] 20:53, 19 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Have a look at [[User talk:GreenReaper/Header]]. You can copy the top to make your own - I use &lt;nowiki&gt;{{User talk:GreenReaper/Header}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; to include it. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 20:59, 19 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == thanks ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for the welcome. There was one question I had, how to send messages; but as you can see I found it out for myself. ^_^ &lt;small&gt;—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Nido|Nido]] ([[User talk:Nido|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Nido|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.&lt;/small&gt;&lt;!-- [Template:Unsigned] --&gt;<br /> <br /> :Hehe, indeed! It's usually a good idea to sign messages on talk pages, too, so other people reading don't have to go back into the history to see who said what - you can do this by putting &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt; at the end (or just &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt; for your name) - like this: --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 05:50, 22 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Hello and thanks! ==<br /> <br /> Hey GreenReaper! Thanks for your help and for cleaning up my page! You're kindness has not gone unnoticed!! &gt;^.^&lt; --[[User:Kitoichi|Kitoichi]] 03:37, 1 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> :It was [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Kitoichi_Aoiro&amp;action=history a team effort] - but, on behalf of the team, you're welcome! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 04:12, 1 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Anthrocon 2007 plannings ==<br /> <br /> I've created a new page over at [[WikiFur:Conventions/Anthrocon/2007]] so that we can discuss what is planned for AC07 as far as wikifur related activities as we discussed on IRC. Please add whatever information or ideas you have concerning events and such. :) -- [[User:JSharp|JaeSharp]] 10:40, 1 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Furry Category:Furry] ==<br /> <br /> Any chance you'd consider asking the whole Wikifur community to contribute more pictures for this category and Category:Fursuit? -- [[User:Zanimum|Zanimum]] 18:13, 1 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :''We talked in [[WikiFur:IRC|IRC]] - for those interested in free-licensed images, check out [[:Category:Images by license]]''. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 18:21, 1 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Abando ==<br /> <br /> Hello! Regarding [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Abando&amp;diff=123558&amp;oldid=123557 your last change] to [[Abando]], I did mean the actual site, not the website (it doesn't exist yet). I couldn't find a real word for the meaning, it's a place in the country, it's like a farm but there is no [[wikipedia:Primary sector of industry|primary sector]] activity, it's just a private site, and quite large at that, with almost 84 [[wikipedia:acre|acres]] (almost 34 [[wikipedia:hectare|ha]]). There's many pictures at part 2 of [http://www.infolobo.org/abando/abando.html this page].<br /> <br /> Thank you for the help! :-) [[User:Ekevu|Ekevu]] 13:30, 5 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == [[User talk: Scani#Vandals|Re: Vandals]] ==<br /> <br /> No prob - just happened to be fortuitous timing! --[[User:Scani|Scani]] 01:51, 6 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Hey! Thanks for warm the welcome and clean-up of my page. I appreciate it. :D &lt;small&gt;—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Tau|Tau]] ([[User talk:Tau|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tau|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.&lt;/small&gt;&lt;!-- [Template:Unsigned] --&gt;<br /> <br /> == Wiki Page, Luca Shoal ==<br /> <br /> Yes, it was Luca Shoal, I was just too stupid to realize that the character from High Tail was a real person. People make mistakes :). Anyway, thanks for cleaning up my page, I know my phrasing isn't the best in the world.<br /> --[[User:VosAbeo|VosAbeo]] 17:39, 18 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Rollback ==<br /> <br /> There doesn't seem to be any precedent, except the one set by SK on the 20&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt; (see [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?days=30&amp;limit=500&amp;title=Special%3ARecentchanges&amp;namespace=2]). I'm really too tired over here to fight, but it just doesn't feel right. '''[[User:Blast|&lt;font color=#DE0000&gt;Bl&lt;/font&gt;]][[User_talk:Blast|&lt;font color=#FCD116&gt;a&lt;/font&gt;]][[User:Blast|&lt;font color=#DE0000&gt;st&lt;/font&gt;]]''' &lt;small&gt; 21.03.07 1324 (UTC)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> :That's probably because you're from Wikipedia, where most users do not have main-namespace articles about themselves. We have very few categories that are intended for user pages, and they are mostly included for things such as convention attendance which are not considered particularly notable (and which therefore have userboxes). Consider: Would you put [[Wikipedia:Category:Animators|Category:Animators]] on a user page at Wikipedia? No . . . if the person was notable enough to have an article in the main namespace, it would be on there instead. You would remove it from a user page, because main-namespace categories are not meant to link to user pages. Here, almost everyone is considered notable, and so has an article about them, and it is those articles that are under [[:Category:People]] and the various subcategories thereof. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 13:31, 21 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :For a few more examples of this, check out the user pages linked at [[WikiFur:Administrators]]. Most of those people also have pages about themselves. In practice, many users do not have anything but the {{tl|ContributorU}} template link on their user page, added by another user. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 13:36, 21 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Yeah, it's hard to get rid of that 'is this notable?' mentality (even if I don't agree with it) on here, so it seemed kind of...I guess narcissistic to make a mainspace article on myself, rather than put it at my userpage (which in practice on WP is where all non-notable people have their 'articles' hosted). Consider also that, when I came here, there were a lot of userspace articles listed in the categories, and so I thought that had been okayed a while ago.<br /> <br /> ::But screw it. I'll shut up and go back to patrolling vandalism on WP now. '''[[User:Blast|&lt;font color=#DE0000&gt;Bl&lt;/font&gt;]][[User_talk:Blast|&lt;font color=#FCD116&gt;a&lt;/font&gt;]][[User:Blast|&lt;font color=#DE0000&gt;st&lt;/font&gt;]]''' &lt;small&gt; 21.03.07 1341 (UTC)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> :::Our major problem with user pages is that they're not easy to find or link to. Most searches only cover the main namespace, and with good reason - because those are the ones people want to read and link to. This is fine for Wikipedia, where user pages do not have notable information on, but it doesn't work so well here, where you might well want to link to pages about artists (for example). It also separates the &quot;information about you&quot; edited by anyone from the &quot;information from you&quot; edited mostly by yourself. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 13:46, 21 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == WikiFur News linkage ==<br /> <br /> Hi GR!<br /> <br /> I just wanted to point something out to you as I'm not sure if it's supposed to work this way or not.<br /> <br /> I've noticed that the [[ConFuzzled]] article has this at the bottom:<br /> <br /> {{WikiFurNews|UK furs plan to be ConFuzzled in 2008}}<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> However, the link one would expect to lead to the News article about ConFuzzled actually links back to the ConFuzzled article via: http://furry.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Search/ConFuzzled<br /> <br /> This also happens with the [[Ursa Major Awards]].<br /> <br /> I'm not sure how to, or if I even can, rectify this myself so I was wondering if you could point me in the right direction or help out. :)</div>

Graafen Blackpaw //en.wikifur.com/wiki/User_talk:GreenReaper 2007-03-21T17:42:16Z

<p>Graafen Blackpaw: WikiFur News linkage</p> <hr /> <div>{{User talk:GreenReaper/Header}}&lt;!-- You probably want to add stuff at the bottom of this page --&gt;<br /> <br /> == Another Response ;) ==<br /> Heya GreenReaper. Thank you for you warm welcome here on thsi Wiki. Its my first, so i guess there will be a few questions once I worked myself through the Style-Code provided here.<br /> <br /> == Welcome Response September 12, 2006 ==<br /> <br /> Thank you, GreenReaper. I kinda stumbled across this site yesterday and decided to 1. Create an account and 2. Make my page. I was quite flattered to find my name listed in the DJ section of Rainbow Tiger's page, so I got my hooves wet and started a personal page. I'll try to keep it rated PG, but we'll have to see what happens. I'll have a placeholder up for a while with many ... many edits while I figure out the syntax.<br /> <br /> [[Heuvadoches Naumova]]<br /> <br /> == Welcome response ==<br /> <br /> You're welcome! I'll be sure to let you know if I need any help. =^.^= -[[User:Alfador|Alfador]]<br /> <br /> Thanks, GR. -- [[User:VederJuda|VederJuda]] 10:54, 26 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == [[PAINWOLF]] ==<br /> Name painwolf I need to talk to about my page.<br /> <br /> Contact Info:<br /> Yahoo and AIM: NL4PAINWOLF<br /> MSN: PAINWOLF@hotmail.com<br /> <br /> E-mails: PAINWOLF@gmail.com<br /> <br /> :''Replied'' --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 02:58, 28 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Norn ==<br /> <br /> Ok, so i guess the question is, why is there a norn running around on the furry edit link ... it seems to hide if I try to interact directly. Do you have more info? -- [[User:Mongoose|Amar Shadowpaws]] 14:25, 1 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I think his name is Hebe. He followed me over from the [[w:c:Creatures|Creatures Wiki]]. I've not had the time to catch him and release him back into [[w:c:Creatures:Albia|the wild]] yet. Besides, he likes to help out - he's done a good job at finishing off the stubs people leave around. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 18:04, 1 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Thanks for coming to lunch ==<br /> <br /> Here are my [http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Wikimania_Notes notes] from our lunch. We will start working hard to get more information out on where the features and bug fixes are going. I really appreciated your support and encouragement, not too mention chatting with you at dinner Thursday. &lt;br&gt; [http://world.wikia.com/wiki/User:Gil Gil]| &lt;small&gt;[http://world.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Gil talk]&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Response to Welcome==<br /> Just wanna say thanks for the greeting, I'll be sure to ask if I need help with anything ;)<br /> <br /> Thanks for greeting me. I had to make my own page look a little spiffier ya know? :D<br /> <br /> ==Thanks for cleaning up after me==<br /> I've been multitasking, so I'm a little scatterbrained at the moment. =^_^!= --[[User:Frizzy|Frizzy]] 05:37, 12 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> And me as well, thanks. Couldn't figure out why I couldn't get those wikipedia links working internally, o,O<br /> --[[User:Animakitty|Anima]] 18:24, 7 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Picture on commons ==<br /> Your lecture was very interesting. I have one more picture of you. See:<br /> *http://www.poli.toya.net.pl/Wikimania_2006_galeria/pages/100-0070_IMG.html<br /> Fill free to copy it if you want.<br /> <br /> Polimerek.<br /> <br /> :Thanks again! I'll do that. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 20:39, 12 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == infoboxes ? ==<br /> <br /> I copied [[Wikipedia:Template:Infobox Webcomic]] to [[Template:Infobox webcomic]] because I thought having webcomic infoboxes (such as the one at [[Wikipedia:Aozora]]) would be nice. The template partially works (example at [[User:EarthFurst]]). I'm guessing the rest of that template doesn't work because WikiFur doesn't have [[Template:If]] ? WP has [[Wikipedia:Template:If]]. --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 05:22, 14 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :According to [[User:Splarka|Splarka]], it's due to a problem with tables and parserfunctions on Wikia. He going to try fixing it . . . --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 05:34, 14 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Hmm, the infobox was working beautifully at [[TwoKinds]], but doesn't seem to be working now. I've posted question to wikia's Help desk on the matter http://www.wikia.com/index.php?title=Forum:Wikia_hiccup_%3F&amp;t=20060817035856 . I'm reverting [[TwoKinds]] until the error is resolved. I'll be re-checking [[User:EarthFurst]] to see when the infox starts working again. --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 05:03, 17 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Did you know? ==<br /> <br /> [[Rod O'Riley]]'s band [[Illegal Operation]] will be performing live as part of the furry programming track at this month's [[Worldcon]] in the Los Angeles area. Do you think it would be a reasonable use of the [[WikiFur:Did you know?|Did you know?]] box to add an entry for this to help draw attention to it? Thanks! --[[User:Frizzy|Frizzy]] 16:39, 15 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Don't see why not. That whole section could do with a full update. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 16:56, 15 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I just got some bad news that the concert event had to be cancelled due to issues out of their control, so I revised the entry. --[[User:Frizzy|Frizzy]] 05:33, 16 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Featured article ==<br /> <br /> It's fun to see that my bio is a Featured article now. That means both of my pages have gotten onto the front page.<br /> [[User:Fox Cutter|Fox Cutter]] 21:45, 16 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I know! This wasn't actually intentional - I only noticed after I featured it. It seemed to be a good pick, so it went up. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 21:52, 16 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Hi there! ==<br /> <br /> Thanks very much pal, if I need any help I know who to turn to now. ^^<br /> <br /> - Eric B.<br /> <br /> P.S. I'm sorry for posting this as an article, I really don't know how to respond to the comment you gave me. Well, maybe I need your help already. ^^;<br /> <br /> == RVDDP2501 ==<br /> <br /> Hey GreenReaper, Its been a while since I had last heard from you, hows things? Listen, I just wanted to say thanks for the reversion of the damaged done to one of my character pages, man, when will this stupidness stop, hope to hear from you - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 23:15, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Hi there. Things are good! The vandalism will continue, undoubtedly, to a greater or lesser extent, but we seem to be coping with it well enough. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 23:22, 23 August 2006 (UTC)''<br /> <br /> ::Hi GreenReaper, the upgrade was a pleasant surprise after that last bit of unpleasant business. Thanks! --[[User:Frizzy|Frizzy]] 04:06, 24 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == sorry for the previous post : ==<br /> <br /> Sorry for the post, I just wanted to report a raid that was headed your way.<br /> If i suspect a raid in the future where do you think i should report this too?<br /> :I had to check the article history to find the post you were referring to. At a guess, it was probably mistaken for link spam, which we get here fairly often. We do appreciate the efforts of people to notify us of attacks in the offing. For future reference, it would be helpful to include a couple of sentences saying what is to be found at the link. (By the way, when I tried the link just now I got a 'Thread Not Found' error - whatver had been there is gone now.) --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 07:58, 26 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Here is fine, although you could try the [[Forum:Index|forum]] as well. As for your post, someone else edited my user page to remove it, but I'd already read the thread before you posted it so that was OK. :-)<br /> <br /> :We get a lot of people planning stuff, but half of them never show up, and the rest turn out only to have 5 people or so. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 16:24, 26 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Incomming Raid Group!!! ==<br /> <br /> [[Image:Wikifur.png|left|frame|This is the [[WikiFur]] logo!]]<br /> <br /> Be On the lookout for the next few days please sir! --[[User:PaulRevere|PaulRevere]] 21:15, 28 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :It would be helpful if we had a link to the site where this came from so we could investigate further. --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 21:18, 28 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Oh, DeusEx again? He's been working on that for a while, as I recall. I guess we'll see if anything comes of it. We've coped quite well so far with a full bot attack, even when it was using a network of 600 proxies.<br /> <br /> :It's cute the way they seem to think using Í will stop google indexing their site, let alone the &quot;totally inept&quot; part. So far it's about 10-0 on successful &quot;organized&quot; raids. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 21:35, 28 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::That reminds me - did we ever implement a &quot;panic button&quot; - something any of the admins could use in an emergency to block all updates if a major vandalism/bot attack were in progress? If there is an easy way to protect the entire site to sysop only, that would probably suffice. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 21:43, 28 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Like a &quot;Lock-down&quot; script? [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 22:09, 28 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::More like a &quot;restrict edits to group X&quot; script, though locking the DB might be a reasonable first step. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 22:17, 28 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: You know, we need to write an app to have a [[User:Nidonocu#Score_Board|Score Board]] like what Nidonocu has. --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 21:45, 28 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::I edit that manually you know. ;) Though I agree a panic page would be useful. --[[User:Nidonocu|Nidonocu]] - [[User talk:Nidonocu|talk]] [[Image:Trans 168.png|16px|Nidonocu]] 23:20, 28 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Oh Gods ^-^ or a [[Wikipedia:DHS|DHS]]'s like [[Wikipedia:Homeland_Security_Advisory_System|Security Advisory System]],... &quot;Today's Threat Level is &quot;Fluffy,&quot; with some chances of /b/tards in the afternoon.&quot; [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 22:09, 28 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::sorry duesX or whatever your name is, I'm almost finished with my &quot;vandalism vaccine&quot; project. so nless you can get it in before that's done, you're just wasting your time working on a program that won't work... : ) [[User:CchristianTehWazzit|- cchristian]]<br /> <br /> == Removing a name on &quot;People&quot;. ==<br /> <br /> Hello there! i am Crowe Basalt, and previously, i did go by &quot;Grimmutt&quot;. i edited an article on &quot;Grimmutt&quot;, but, as i am going back to only using the &quot;Crowe Basalt&quot; name, i'd like to have &quot;Grimmutt&quot;'s page removed.<br /> <br /> thank you! {{unsigned|Crowebasalt}}<br /> <br /> :Hi there, Crowe, and welcome back to WikiFur! The best way to go about that is usually to move the article, as that preserves the original history. I will fix that up later tonight when I get home. Do you wish us to keep the information about your character Grimmutt as a separate section on the page about you, or should I remove it and just mention that you used to go by the name? --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 22:40, 30 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Alternative to page protection ==<br /> <br /> Hey, this is Carrie Pika.<br /> <br /> Is there any way I can get this page locked so it shows only this? I don't want anyone adding personal information about me without my knowledge, so I'd like to have it left at just this.<br /> <br /> Thanks~ {{unsigned|CarriePika}}<br /> <br /> :We can probably do that. You could also just put your email into your [[Special:Preferences|user preferences]] and then click the Watch tab, so it will tell you whenever someone edits so that you can check it out. Which would you prefer? --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 23:35, 30 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Oh, that'd work great, actually! I'll go ahead and do that. Thanks! {{unsigned|CarriePika}}<br /> <br /> :Excellentage. Enjoy WikiFur. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 04:44, 31 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == And thanks to you. ==<br /> <br /> I do appreciate the clean-up of my page, and the separation of the book summary. Many thanks! You guys do an amazing job here. - Alicia<br /> <br /> :You're welcome. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 21:37, 1 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == something to be very angry ==<br /> <br /> I wrote an article and someone, german wrote me this:<br /> <br /> &quot;Meine Fresse, ich hab noch nie so ein BESCHISSENES ENGLISCH gelesen. Kauf dir mal ein verdammtes Leben!!&quot; <br /> <br /> In a free translation it's:&quot;Damn I've never read such a shitty english. Buy a damn life&quot;<br /> Well maybe my english isn't taht good but is it necessary to write the comment in this way? Without an name or anything else. <br /> <br /> I think you're not able to find out who did it are you?<br /> <br /> And so maybe you could delete my account and the article about me. because I don't want to be a part of something like this. Sorry and thanks for the chocolat. ^^ {{unsigned|Andraste}}<br /> <br /> :That comment [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Andraste&amp;action=history was made] by a person with the IP address [[User:89.48.235.195|89.48.235.195]]. They are obviously not a regular user, otherwise they would indeed have signed their comment - and made the edit with a registered account. That edit to the talk page was their [[Special:Contributions/89.48.235.195|only contribution so far]]. There is therefore little to say about them, other than that their IP address resolved to the name &quot;Lebc3.l.pppool.de&quot; - probably a dialup account in Germany.<br /> <br /> :I would suggest you pay as much attention to you as someone who posts once on a forum anonymously to insult you, never having contributed to that forum before - that is, precisely no attention at all. If your English is not the best, so what? You are German! The fact that you can write English at all is better than most English people could do with German. If they thought the article was bad, the anonymous editor should have fixed it rather than complained about it. And, in fact, many others did. :-)<br /> <br /> :In the last day [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Andraste&amp;action=history several edits] by at least four other people have been made to the article about you (perhaps you made a link to it from somewhere else?). I would ask that you consider '''those''' edits to be an example of what WikiFur is, and not the anonymous commenter - who, I would note, could not even manage to put their ''own'' comment in English. We have [[WikiFur:No personal attacks|a policy against personal attacks]], and any regular contributor would know better than to make such a comment. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 17:59, 3 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Recategorization of [[List of convention acronyms]] ==<br /> <br /> I don't see why this fits better with [[:Category:Convention terms]] than [[:Category:Conventions]] when it seems to fit the Conventions cat just as well as [[List of furs who were married at a furry con]] or [[List of conventions by attendance]] (both of which are in [[:Category:Conventions]]), since like those two, its a sort of comparison/reference list between different conventions, as opposed to Category:Convention terms which seems to be a list of general terms used within a convention. --[[User:Chibiabos|Chibiabos]] 21:12, 9 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :OK. Change it back if you wish. My view was that an acronym was a convention term, but I can can see your side too. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 23:59, 9 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Wikifur now adversarial? ==<br /> <br /> I've read with interest the discussion on Sibe, specifically your comment:<br /> <br /> ''That is why I am opposed to the removal of the article in whole - because what he has done deserves remembering. It is our business, because Sibe has been bothering us as a community.''<br /> <br /> Does this mean Wikifur will not be so much as a source of neutral information, but that Wikifur will now become adversarial in relations to information about people who you (singularly or collectively) believe have wronged Furry? Do you feel that it's now your job/right/reponsibility to punish these people by using Wikifur as a &quot;bully pulpit&quot;?<br /> <br /> I hope this isn't the case. Wikifur, despite a healthy dose of pro-Furry slobbery, has been a respectable source of neutral information.<br /> <br /> :You'd have to put that question to the wider community for a full answer, as it's a question about where they want WikiFur to go. I'm one of the editors leading the project, but there are others. Still, I can provide some explanation, and the answer I would give is basically &quot;no, but we're not going to go out of our way to do such people any favours either.&quot;<br /> <br /> :The information on the individuals itself ''should'' unquestionably be neutral and factual (no, this doesn't always happen, and if you see a problem, please explain why and fix it). The only choice we have been making in some cases is whether or not to ''remove'' that neutral information (or some of it) on request, per the [[WikiFur:Personal information|personal information policy]]. This might well ''not'' be a neutral decision, because this is a community made up of members of the furry fandom, and as it is our website it is up to us to decide whether or not that is appropriate. Ultimately our role is to serve the best interests of the fandom, and that generally means trying not to hurt those who are or have been worthwhile members of it. We may care less about the possibility of hurting other people.<br /> <br /> :If a person is just a regular member of the fandom - maybe well-regarded, maybe just &quot;one of the gang&quot;, then people tend not to fuss too much if they want to remove personal information - and if they have not really done all that much special, that might include the entire article about them (if not, then references to them might remain in other articles). If an individual has, over time, given the community a significant amount of grief, they are likely to say &quot;no, this person is just trying to hide from the problems they have caused&quot; and deny the request. In short, if they've had no respect for our community, then we as a community are likely to have as little respect for them. That is why exclusions that may be contentious go to talk pages - so that the community can decide what to do in that particular situation.<br /> <br /> :These sorts of situation are fortunately pretty rare. In Sibe's case, though, his &quot;bothering&quot; was widely commented-on, were intimately connected to his person (not any external group), and occured over a long period of time. If WikiFur is recording furry history, it makes little sense to exclude him, particularly given that he has shown no reticence (or regret) on occasion over detailing the lives of others where it suited ''him''. We're perfectly aware that he doesn't like it being up there, but over time he's pissed off enough people in the fandom that few seem to care about what he feels anymore.<br /> <br /> :The thing is, all we have to do is say the truth. His own actions are what comdemn him. We don't even need to say they were bad. If telling the truth about someone makes them look bad in the eyes of the reader, then it's a fair bet that they deserve it.<br /> <br /> :This situation of information removal based on respect does not really apply to groups, whatever the standing of the group in the community. I would not support removing the history of the [[Burned Furs]], for example, or that of [[Sociopolitical Ramifications]], or [[FurryMUCK]], because these are important groups that have had a historical impact on the fandom. Maybe if it was a really small and personal group that hasn't . . . again, that'd be discussed on the appropriate talk pages.<br /> <br /> One final question: why is it so common to list the real names of people who've had adversarial relations with furry but not with those individuals considered friendly to the fandom? Why are real names included at all?<br /> <br /> :There might be various reasons for the inclusion of real names. For some people, their real name is just one item of information about them, such as the colour of their character's fur. Other people might not '''have''' nicknames that are well-known within the fandom (but really, this applies as much if not more to people &quot;friendly to the fandom&quot; as to others). In that case, it seems appropriate to use their real name, just as we tend to use the real name of artists that have used it as their identifier in the fandom.<br /> <br /> :In some cases, there may have been a good reason to find out the real name of a person, particularly if it might allow members of the furry fandom to more easily identify a person who is using a variety of nicknames or even their real name in a different venue (we can't say &quot;go look at Laurence's posts in forum X&quot; without telling them who Laurence is). It might also be that people are just more inclined to include the real names of people that they don't like, in the hope that others outside the fandom will see what that person is like. This is not ideal editing, but if the person concerned doesn't request the removal of their name, it will not be changed - the article will be reworded to be based solely on facts if possible, or removed if not.<br /> <br /> :The question perhaps shouldn't be &quot;why are real names included at all&quot;, but &quot;why aren't real names included for everyone?&quot;. Ultimately, aritcles should be under the name which people would link to, and so that is the only name that '''has''' to be there. In the furry fandom, this is more often than not the person's fan name, if they have one. They may only use this name, or they may use their real name as well. If so, people may or may not decide to add it, but it's not considered critical if it's not usually used. Even if a person's real name ''is'' regularly used, in general we will on request remove a person's real name and replace it with their fan name/nickname when describing them, whether or not they are/have been members of the fandom. However, members of the fandom are a) more likely to request this, becuase more of them come here, b) are (slightly) more likely to have such a request accepted (because if non-members are listed here it is usually because they are either famous or infamous, not just because they're furry), and c) are more likely to have such nicknames to use in the first place (we can't exactly say &quot;The comic Fuzzy Things, authored by {blank} . . .&quot;).<br /> <br /> :I'm aware this answer was rather long and rambling, but that's because I'm tired, and it's a complicated issue when talking in general. If you have specific cases you want explained, feel free to point them out. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 02:29, 13 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::GreenReaper, in response to your reply, I have added comments to two talk sections, Sibe and Burned Fur, pointing out what I see as an unfair biasing. I'm interested in your reply on both. <br /> <br /> ::There's also one other possible point on Sibe that you might want to run by an attorney, since the status of Wiki's as &quot;legitimate publications&quot; is still in legal limbo: Sibe is legally a &quot;private figure&quot; and his actions in Furry do not make him, in the legal sense, a &quot;public figure&quot; (both of these are legal terms). As a private individual, he's afforded certain legal protections about what information can be revealed. These protections may or may not cover his criminal record or other information. I think it would be worth your time to consult with someone from the EFF and make sure you haven't crossed the line. While you say that you're just one editor, if no other person can over-rule your edits without your consent, it's your &quot;publication&quot;. As such, even if Sibe were to decide to come after Wikifur ''et al'' for any damages the publication of protected information caused him (if any such protections exist at all), you'd still be on the line. Again, the law regarding this may or may not cover him.<br /> <br /> :::I agree (unlike some) that Sibe is a private figure, and as such someone ''might'' be liable if we were negligent in publishing made-up facts, even if we did not act with the knowledge that they were false (or with reckless disregard as to whether or not they were false). For example, if we said that the Burned Furs burned people, that would be libel without good evidence. However, a glance at the talk page archives and article history should show you that we have been willing to work with concerned parties to ensure the accuracy of the article, and to obtain exact sources for assertions where appropriate. We have no interest in being negligent (and certainly not grossly negligent), because that makes for a poor article.<br /> <br /> :::In contrast, the limitations on information that is actually ''true'' are really quite small, and in general don't apply to us as a private site. I'm not a lawyer, but this situation has come up before and so I've done some research. Criminal records are public information in the State of Washington (and generally speaking in other states). Most other privacy legislation is aimed at restricting what companies can tell third parties about their customers (who they have a contract with), and not about what individuals (who never agreed to any contract) may publish from their own knowledge. The [[Wikipedia:First Amendment to the United States Constitution|First Amendment]] gives us rather sweeping powers in this area that allow us to publish just about anything as long as it is true, and in practice the &quot;due process&quot; terms of the [[Wikipedia:Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution|Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution|Fourteenth Amendment]] extends this to the states as well. Credit card numbers, social security numbers and driver's license number would probably be stuff that should be removed. Other than that, it's pretty much fair game and up to the community to decide what it ''should'' publish, in a moral sense.<br /> <br /> :::[[Wikia:Wikia, Inc.|Wikia]] is able to overrule my edits without my consent. If people feel I'm not doing a good enough job, or that WikiFur is infringing their rights, they should contact them. They have more experience than I do, and I am willing to defer to them. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 19:52, 15 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Hi, Peace from AU ==<br /> Hello, my name is D. Coldheartt. I am the head admin of the Alternative Universe wiki which is also pretty big. I am a big fan of, well furry stuff and creatures and animals so i decided to join here. I was wondering if i could also become a administrator here if at all possib;e. [[User:D. Coldheartt|D. Coldheartt]] 23:44, 12 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : Admin status is generally given to users who have a history of contributing to the wiki. If you're interested in becoming an admin, we recommend following [[Special:Recentchanges]] and contributing to/cleaning up articles, dealing with vandalism, etc.<br /> : I'm curious about this Alternate Universe wiki that you mentioned. Typing &quot;Alternate Universe wiki&quot; into Google [http://www.google.com/search?num=100&amp;hl=en&amp;lr=&amp;safe=off&amp;q=%22Alternative+Universe+wiki%22&amp;btnG=Search brings up zero matches]. [http://www.google.com/search?num=100&amp;hl=en&amp;lr=&amp;safe=off&amp;q=%22Alternative+Universe%22+wiki&amp;btnG=Search A slightly more liberal search] did not help me find it either. Did I misspell or typo something? --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 00:22, 13 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> The AU has actually been down for quite some time and replaced with Vandal Manifest Editthis Wiki. [[User:D. Coldheartt|D. Coldheartt]] 00:24, 13 September 2006 (UTC) WikiTV started at Revived Haven Editthis and moved on to Meta Wiki. Jimbos one of the users alowed into revived haven. [[User:D. Coldheartt|D. Coldheartt]] 00:24, 13 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;q=%22Vandal+Manifest%22&amp;btnG=Google+Search Googling for Vandal Manifest] does not turn up anything.<br /> : [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;q=%22Revived+Haven%22&amp;btnG=Google+Search Googling for Revived Haven] does not turn up anything, either.<br /> : I'm sensing a pattern here. --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 00:32, 13 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: And he first [[:Special:Contributions/D._Coldheartt|spammed a bunch of the admins]] to ask for admin privileges. --[[User:Frizzy|Frizzy]] 00:39, 13 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Heres the link: to VM, http://editthis.info/vandal_manifest/Main_Page a former vandal war site but now good. Ignore the messages the page their is called WikiTV. [[User:D. Coldheartt|D. Coldheartt]] 00:35, 13 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::None of the pages are available for viewing without a password [[User:63.204.227.202|63.204.227.202]] 00:46, 13 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Please ignore [[User:D. Coldheartt]], it is a swfanon sockpuppeter and general wikia attention spammer. Usernames include: Alacaster Torn, The Vanguard, ThatLittleMidget, Proffesor Mephisto, Black Dawn, Licorice ... --[[w:User:Splarka|Splarka]] &lt;small&gt;([[w:User_talk:Splarka|talk]])&lt;/small&gt; 01:47, 13 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Well cheers for the welcome! ==<br /> <br /> Just thought I'd drop by and say thanks for the welcome - wasn't expecting that! Been using this site as a resourse for a good while now so I thought it was only right to inflict a little of myself on here.<br /> <br /> [[Werewolf Of London]]<br /> <br /> == Hey hey ==<br /> <br /> Well I had some problems with creating the article of our new Polish Furries forum and website, but I'm good now.<br /> <br /> Say would t be a problem for you to place an info about http://furry.wikia.com/wiki/Polska_Strefa_Furry on the main page? {{unsigned|TerrisRacoon}}<br /> <br /> :I will update our [[WikiFur:Did you know?|Did you know?]] section on the front page, and include a link to that page, as it is interesting to know about new forums.<br /> <br /> :Oh, and a couple of tips - you should not remove a message on a talk page after you have saved it - it should be left on the page so that the person can reply. Otherwise there is no record, and it looks as if there has been no message, which is confusing when the window pops up saying &quot;you have new messages&quot;. :-) Also, you can sign your name on Talk: pages with this: &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt;. It gives this sort of result: --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 08:32, 14 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Furry gaming project...? ==<br /> <br /> Seeing as how Wikipedia has a project that concetrates on improving the quality and quantity of gaming articles, may I suggest implementing a similiar project? The amount of games with furry elements is not a small one, and it would be very helpful, if information about those games (most are old, PC DOS titles, which run perfectly under DosBox) was included in one place, for sake of completeness and subject coverage. <br /> <br /> Especially games like [[Project Nomad]] could use that coverage, as they have literally truckloads of content, and it would be helpful to store it in one place, much like [[Albion (video game)|Albion]]'s articles are done.<br /> <br /> Just a thought.<br /> <br /> Oh, and what is the general stance about making articles about oneself? Mikael Grizzly 22:30, 14 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Seems like a nice enough idea. We already have [[WikiFur:Project Fursuit Central|something similar]] for [[fursuit]]ing, although that's been slow recently. The trouble is there are few &quot;meta&quot;-editors at this time, and so you may find it hard to gather contributors to help you out. I would suggest that you concentrate on one or two particular projects at a time so that it doesn't bog down in needing to do 10 different things at once. :-) <br /> <br /> :Articles about yourself are fine as long as they are neutrally written, like any other article. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 04:19, 15 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Need help putting up an article ==<br /> <br /> I want to put up an essay that's under the GNU Free Docement Lisence, and I want to ask for a little bit of tips on how to do it before I actually do it. Or even how I'm suppose to do it. --[[User:Foxpaws-zupe|Foxpaws]] 00:52, 15 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Could you be more specific about what you're trying to do? If you have a GFDL essay from another place, then in general it's fine to just copy it here into a new page as long as you give attribution for the people who wrote it (for example, with Wikipedia you would link to the history page) and preferably link back to the original source. Of course, it would have to fit the topic of the wiki, and be neutral in tone. If it was not neutral (whether or not you wrote it), you should probably avoid putting it in the main namespage - it should go a subpage of your User: space - e.g [[User:Foxpaws-zupe/Article name]] - and it should have a note up at the top similar to that of the [[:Template:personal-article|personal-article template]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 04:22, 15 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Hey! I'll be alright, I guess. I'll fix the entries up s'more later.<br /> <br /> I should remember to tag that 'minor edit' box more often. *nods*<br /> <br /> Thank you<br /> <br /> == Hi and thankies ==<br /> <br /> Hi and thank you for this brill site {{unsigned|Fox92}}<br /> <br /> == Happy Birthday! ==<br /> <br /> *24 wolftytailswat-spankings!* --[[User:Chibiabos|Chibiabos]] 03:45, 20 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Im sorry for the late reply, but thank you for welcoming me ==<br /> <br /> Im afraid I am not use to this place yet and still have a long way to go on it. But im glad that hospitality is shown here ^_^<br /> <br /> From [[Duragan]] {{unsigned|Duragan}}<br /> <br /> == All Fur Fun now has official dates! ==<br /> <br /> Hi there! Could you please edit the convention area to show that [[All Fur Fun]] will be held March 31 - April 1, 2007? Thanks much! :D<br /> <br /> --[[User:Teeka|Teeka]] 01:11, 29 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Done, and I hope you guys have fun! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 01:52, 29 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Nah~ ==<br /> <br /> Just tell me if I should remove the images. They are censored though, but you still see enough~ {{unsigned|Garyu}}<br /> <br /> == Vandalism ==<br /> <br /> Hey GreenReaper, thanks for repairing the damage to my page as well as other I may not know about - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 20:26, 29 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :You're welcome! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 20:30, 29 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Spam cleanup script ==<br /> <br /> I have no idea if that was a valid spam cleanup script or if it was an elaborately created vandalism technique, but either way, it was blanking whole pages rather than just removing &quot;spam&quot; links (which weren't actually spam), so I blocked it temporarily. Feel free to unblock it if it isn't actually something trying to erase the whole Wiki. ;3 [[User:SpazKitty|Spaz Kitty]] 02:42, 5 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Higgs Raccoon ==<br /> <br /> May I nominate [[User_talk:Higgs Raccoon|Higgs Raccoon]] for upgrading to admin? In addition to contributing to numerous articles, he's helped revert vandalism on more than one occasion. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 15:07, 6 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Let's try that out, then. [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&amp;limit=500&amp;target=Higgs_Raccoon Contributions] are a little low (and lacking discussion edits), but they '''are''' all good, and it's not like there aren't a couple of admins with fewer. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 15:27, 6 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Well, this is quite an honour. Thankyou Mwalimu for the nomination, and GreenReaper for OKing it. Quite unexpected, really - as noted above, I haven't been here very long and haven't contributed a lot as yet. Hopefully the whole Wikifur novelty won't suddenly wear off. Oh well, if that happens I guess what GreenReaper giveth he can also taketh away! ;) --[[User:Higgs Raccoon|Higgs Raccoon]] 10:13, 7 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Technically, no - I have to go to Wikia for that. That's why I don't generally give it out without recommendation. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 22:46, 7 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Vandalism War! ==<br /> <br /> A user going by the name of [[User:Arwel Parry]] is vandalizing a number of pages right now! I'd reverting edits as fast as I can. Always happy to help! --[[User:Robomilk|Tori]] 11:18, 7 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Fixed vandalism with [[User:Arcturus]] --[[User:Robomilk|Tori]] 11:33, 7 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Where you be on Eye Arr Cee? ==<br /> <br /> *cough* Um.. ignore the poor rhyming, just wondering where you is as I've snuck back to the IRC channel the last few days and haven't seen you on at all. o.O --[[User:Nidonocu|Nidonocu]] - [[User talk:Nidonocu|talk]] [[Image:Trans 168.png|16px|Nidonocu]] 20:24, 8 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> :...Now I see your note, make it '''bigger''' next time. X) --[[User:Nidonocu|Nidonocu]] - [[User talk:Nidonocu|talk]] [[Image:Trans 168.png|16px|Nidonocu]] 20:30, 8 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == SilvrWingsDragon ==<br /> <br /> He! Its me, Carrie, from Anthrocon. I tickled you, remember? And I think I had the pupper fox plushie. :) Whats up?<br /> <br /> You can, btw, reach me at AminElea@aol.com<br /> <br /> :Hi there! I do indeed remember . . . *hides*<br /> <br /> :I'm doing fairly well - indeed, I just went to [http://conclavesf.org another convention] last weekend (which I need to actually write about sometime this week). I'll try and contact you when I get back home - still busy at work right now. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 21:39, 10 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Furcadia origins? ==<br /> <br /> I am not trying to be a pain in the rear here, but I wonder about the claim on the furcadia article that says that it has been around since 1996. I was following this stuff back in the late nineties and I was pretty surprised to hear that. Wolfhome was one of the first websites featuring multi-user chat and I don't remember furcadia.com being around. We were running a company by 2000. While I didn't do an exhaustive search, I am surprised that a furry chat site that would have been a direct competitor to Wolfhome escaped me. Wolfhome started on Gre7g Luterman's site, TempleOfLuna.com, back on October 31st, 1999.<br /> <br /> The other thing that I discovered is that the whois record for Furcadia.com was created in 1999 (see below). Add to that a web search on the &quot;Wayback Machine&quot; http://web.archive.org, which tracks websites back to the mid nineties, which shows that in 1999, furcadia.com was a placeholder site:<br /> <br /> http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://furcadia.com<br /> <br /> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /> <br /> Here's that whois record:<br /> <br /> Registrant:<br /> DRAGON'S EYE PRODUCTIONS, INC.<br /> 767 Sam Bass Rd<br /> Round Rock, TX 78680-1048<br /> US<br /> <br /> Domain Name: FURCADIA.COM<br /> <br /> Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:<br /> DRAGON'S EYE PRODUCTIONS, INC. sanct@furcadia.com<br /> 767 Sam Bass Rd<br /> Round Rock, TX 78680-1048<br /> US<br /> +358407672478 fax: +358427672478<br /> <br /> <br /> Record expires on 03-Feb-2011.<br /> Record created on 03-Feb-1999.<br /> Database last updated on 10-Oct-2006 21:10:34 EDT.<br /> <br /> Domain servers in listed order:<br /> <br /> NS.FURCADIA.COM 72.36.220.234<br /> NS2.FURCADIA.COM 72.36.220.239<br /> <br /> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /> <br /> None of that is meant to take away from the current success of furcadia, but I wonder what supports the claim that they were running a website back in 1996?<br /> <br /> Here's the web archive for templeofluna.com:<br /> <br /> http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://templeofluna.com<br /> <br /> BTW, thanks for providing this great site focusing on the Furry community!<br /> <br /> [[User:Wunderwood|underdog]]<br /> <br /> :Hi there, underdog! The claim is that they were running Furcadia (the client-based MMO experience) since 1996, not Furcadia.com (the website), and I think it is substantiated by [http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.furry/browse_frm/thread/46c69d49b74b57d0 this thread] from May 1999 in which Dr. Cat states in passing that it &quot;opened two and a half years ago&quot;. There is also [http://web.archive.org/web/19981205041337/www.realtime.net/furcadia/ this website (www.realtime.net/furcadia)] from December 1998, at which point they appear to already have had 400,000 visits.<br /> <br /> :As for the website - you're welcome! I didn't exactly do it by myself, though - you can [http://wikia.com/wikistats/EN/TablesWikiaFURRY.htm#wikipedians thank the people here], along with the hundreds of other editors for filling it with content. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 02:48, 11 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Ah, ok.. I read that wrong ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for the clarification. I had interpreted that pretty narrowly before. {{Unsigned|Wunderwood}}<br /> <br /> == Hiya there ==<br /> <br /> yeah, I found that I had a page to edit and submit info to, and thanks for the help offer. Ill be editing when I can, and look forward to contributing here. :3 {{unsigned|Zippo}}<br /> <br /> == Wikipedia's techniques on trolls ==<br /> <br /> Wikipedia usually reverts banned troll's comments and semi-protects pages. It works better. [[User:Tretonin|Tretonin]] 10:51, 13 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :It works for their situation. We have to make our own decisions and see how they work out. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 21:43, 14 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == From Buska ==<br /> <br /> Hi and thanks for the welcome! I tried creating my own page as well. I really need to study the Wiki format a bit more however ^^ {{unsigned|Buska}}<br /> <br /> == RE:Page name correction ==<br /> <br /> Hey GreenReaper, thanks for the move, I will try not to make mistakes like that in the future - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 00:26, 20 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :No worries. We make them too, sometimes. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 00:29, 20 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Hey GreenReaper, I was wondering if you could perform another page name edit, could you add an &quot;s&quot; to my Remalon page turning it into &quot;Remalons&quot; (since there are five characters in that page), I would really appreciate it, thank you - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 18:20, 22 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Once again, thanks - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 18:26, 22 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Extinctioners main page fixing ==<br /> <br /> Hey GreenReaper, sorry to drop questions on a regular basis but I was wondering if you might know or see a way to modify or re-arrange the list of groups in the Extinctioner's main page, to some how make it appear more neat, thank you - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 18:17, 20 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == I have readed that you use Openbsd to host the wiki ==<br /> <br /> Hello Greenreaper, thanks for your work on this Furry Wiki, I am trying to install mediawiki on openbsd, but can not login on mediawiki, can you help me? after i have logged in sucessfully, then i try to use the preferences page and it say that i am not logged in<br /> <br /> thanks in advance. {{unsigned|Aureliof}}<br /> <br /> :I'm afraid I don't really have any idea why that is not working for you, other than that possibly you do not have sessions or cookies setup properly in your browser or web server. I do not administrate the server side of WikiFur, and so I know little of the details of hosting it. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 08:16, 21 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == DAMN YOU!!! ==<br /> <br /> You ALLWAYS seem to be around to delete my...um...helpful changes no matter what time and what wiki I'm hitting :(<br /> <br /> WHY?????????????????? {{unsigned|88.106.208.18}}<br /> <br /> :Because I'm everywhere - I'm like the wind . . . --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 20:32, 21 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == That was odd ==<br /> <br /> I see that earlier today you blocked User:216.224.121.151. It struck me as odd that there have also been a couple of good edits from the very similar address User:216.224.121.141 (knowing that sometimes a vandal who gets blocked will simply switch to a different workstation, which often has a very similar IP; this time, however, that did not appear to be the case).<br /> <br /> Then I tried to make a couple of edits, while logged in, and was told that I couldn't because my IP address, 216.224.121.151, has been blocked. I found this really odd, since I was logged in, I have admin privs, and on top of it all, the IP address of the machine I connect from doesn't look anything like that (and just to be sure, I checked with http://www.whatismyip.com/ ). I retried a couple of times, and my edit finally took - not sure what changed, but there you go.<br /> <br /> Then finally, I ran nslookup on 216.224.121.151, and it returned ut4.sjc.wikia-inc.com. I tried 216.224.121.141 and it returned cache1.sjc.wikia-inc.com. Curioser and curioser. Is there something funky going on at wikia.com that's causing incoming edits to look like they came from their server instead of the actual originating user or IP address? --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 18:57, 25 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :It does indeed seem odd. I've also recieved two separate messages about this from other users. Unblocked this for now. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 19:26, 25 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: I got a response from John Q. over on the Wikia mailing list saying that this is fixed/will be fixed shortly. --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 00:25, 26 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: Hmm. Maybe not quite fixed yet, I had trouble getting that edit to go through... --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 00:29, 26 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thanks for the welcome ^^ ==<br /> <br /> Hey, thanks for the welcome to WikiFur. This is my first time actually registering for a Wiki community, so it'll be a learning experience, but I'm looking forward to adding what I can, when I can. Oh, question -- how do I reply to things on my Talk page? {{unsigned|IanKeith}}<br /> <br /> :Welcome to wiki, then, too. :-) You can reply to others in the way you did just now. You should generally sign your names when on talk pages, though, so that people know who left the message without going to the history. You can use &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt; for this, or just &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt; if you don't want the date. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 02:54, 26 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == timeline tag ==<br /> <br /> Hi. I just solve timeline bug and you can use it again --[[User:Inez|Inez]] 10:10, 27 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Thank you, Inez! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 12:47, 27 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == NO CARRIER ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for cleaning up after my messes. :) I'll get the wiki standards hammered through my thick skull eventually!&lt;br&gt;<br /> -[[User:Furvert|Furv]]<br /> <br /> == How to do bot vandal rollbacks ==<br /> <br /> In cases of mass vandalism (page blanking and the like) it is acceptable to use the &quot;bot&quot; rollback method. To do this, go to the user's contribution page by clicking their name or IP address in the userlist, then add &amp;bot=1 to the URL (or ?bot=1 if there is no ? already in the URL). Press enter to reload that URL, and then just open all the rollback links in new tabs. This will give the initial edit a &quot;bot&quot; flag, so that only your revert will be visible in [[Special:Recentchanges|recent changes]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 19:04, 27 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Okay, I'll do it that way next time. By the way, when responding to a user talk comment like this, is there a way to have the thread automatically replicated in the other user's talk page? I've always done it by manually copying the response in both places. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 19:09, 27 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Not that I know of. Would be nice! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 19:11, 27 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> 'twas fun playing with you furries. --[[User:149.9.0.27|149.9.0.27]] 19:23, 27 October 2006 (UTC) =)<br /> <br /> == more vandalism ==<br /> <br /> Hey GreenReaperm, were getting vandalized including the front page! - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 14:16, 28 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> : O NOES VANDALISM @_@ --[[User:85.214.66.61|85.214.66.61]] 14:23, 28 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> WERE UNDER ATTACK! - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 22:01, 28 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Chinmyou ==<br /> Thanks for the welcome. X3<br /> [[User:Chinmyou|Chinmyou]] 06:06, 29 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Extinctioners Wikipedia page deletion threat again ==<br /> <br /> Hey GreenReaper, Sorry to constantly bother you but I just saw on the talk page of the Wikipedia.org Extinctioners page that it will be coming under a deletion threat within several days claiming wikifur IS NOT a reliable source (yeah right), here is the link to the page - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Extinctioners - I hope it will not be removed, I don't understand it, they have pages for other furry comics but they seem the think this one is not worthy but if you think its not worth fighting over, I will understand, thank you - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 13:16, 30 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Unfortunately, WikiFur ''isn't'' a reliable source, at least not in Wikipedia's terms. Someone could come by and change anything at any time. Articles are not guaranteed to be peer-reviewed - indeed, there is no particularly certainty that information on WikiFur has been checked by anyone. Contributions are, in many cases, anonymous. If you want to have an article at Wikipedia, you need to give proper references to the primary sources (the comics themselves), or to secondary sources that have been published in some kind of guaranteed editorially-reviewed medium, like a comic review in a published [[fanzine]] (or better).<br /> <br /> :Consider: You wrote most of the pages on WikiFur about the comic. Who's to say you weren't making up half of the stuff you wrote? You can see their situation - they can't just rely on your words for its accuracy. It is not that it is a furry comic. It is the entire article is your original creation, and you've not backed it up with links that show the source of the facts that you state. Go look at [[Wikipedia:Samuel Conway|this article]] for an example of what I mean. There are probably worse articles, but that does not excuse the one about ''Extinctioners''. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 05:12, 31 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Thank you, I appreciate what you have told me and I finally can see where wikipedia is coming from, I will leave this decision in the hands of those at Wikipedia (since I am unable to try and fight for it to remain again) and just continue with the one here, thanks for your help :-) - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 23:48, 31 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Redirecting articles? ==<br /> <br /> I was poking around in the Templates section to see how I could re-direct a link that currently goes nowhere to an article that is relevant. I wanted to link &quot;Ace of Spades&quot; and &quot;Morrigan's War&quot; to the &quot;Empires&quot; article but could not see a way to do it..? Thank you. {{unsigned|Kette' Barona}}<br /> <br /> :To do that, go to the pages [[Ace of Spades]] and [[Morrigan's War]] and put &lt;nowiki&gt;#REDIRECT [[Empires]]&lt;/nowiki&gt; in there. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 02:22, 1 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == FA and such ==<br /> <br /> I just wanted to apologize, again-- though I guess to you directly-- for what I did the other day. I was responding more as damage control to prevent an explosion of drama rather than following the guidelines stipulated. This whole thing, though not directly affecting me, has seemed to've killed my patience and thinking. Thankfully it's cleared up now.<br /> <br /> It won't happen again. [[User:Verix|Verix]] 17:57, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :It's understandable. No worries. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 19:12, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Uploading avatar pic quesion ==<br /> <br /> Hey GreenReaper, sorry to bug you but I have a question, there is a pic I would like to use as my avatar (or fursona if thats what its called), I have gotten the artists permission (no via e-mail), I was just wondering what porceedures I need to do before uploading such a pic, here are the links:<br /> *Shadow-Wolf (artist) - http://shadow-wolf.deviantart.com/<br /> *the picture I want to use - http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/8577254/?qo=165&amp;q=by%3Ashadow-wolf&amp;qh=sort%3Atime+-in%3Ascraps<br /> *and finally the message giving me permission to use this pic - http://my.deviantart.com/notes/1/52363257<br /> <br /> I just want to ensure I do not mess up on this matter, I would really appreciate your help with this<br /> <br /> :I can't see that note, probably since they're private, but for that sort of thing we're fine with taking people's word for it unless the artist complains. Just make sure to mention the name of the artist in the picture description, and select &quot;fursona&quot; in the dropdown license box when you upload it. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 20:13, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :heres the note - <br /> <br /> From: *shadow-wolf<br /> Date: Nov 4, 2006, 12:17:03 PM<br /> sure, go for it! Could you credit me in your journal or something, link back to the original picture? It'd be a great plug for me if you could. ^^ Thank you for having the courtasy to ask first <br /> <br /> ~nymph<br /> <br /> ----------<br /> RVDDP2501 said the following:<br /> <br /> Hi Shadow Wolf, I'm RVDDP2501, listen, I was wondering if I could get your permission to use your Venom Pic as my avatar, I really like it and I'm a huge Venom fan, I just wanted to ask your permission first, thanks<br /> <br /> P.S. I'm the Extinctioners wikifur page creator <br /> <br /> <br /> and finally (forgive my ignorence) what exactly is the drop box your refering to? - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 20:51, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> wait... I think I've found what your talking about - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 20:54, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Other-Language Wikis ==<br /> <br /> We've talked before about a possible Swedish-language furry wiki. It is likely that I will find myself with a good chunk of free time (or at least that what free time I have won't be eaten up by pesky things like take-home schoolwork) in a month or so - would it still be of interest that I go ahead and request the wiki to be made? (Last we discussed it on LJ, I kind of got heaped with massive amounts of Stuff soon afterwards, unfortunately.) I could probably get [[Ricadonna]] to link it from the [[SveaFur]] homepage as well, so that there'd be at least a few contributors more or less guaranteed. --[[User:Quotingmungo|quoting_mungo]] 15:13, 8 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Someone needs to learn to think before she talks. I also meant to ask if you have a preference for a Wikia-hosted wiki (would it help with organization, for instance?) or if it could be privately hosted for all you care? I know the host I plan on moving to makes it ridiculously simple to install a wiki, so if it's all the same to you that might be a better route, as that also eliminates the ads? I'm just disorganized today, sorry. --[[User:Quotingmungo|quoting_mungo]] 15:29, 8 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I'd still be very interested in seeing more furry wikis in different languages. As the one who intends to do the work to found the wiki, it's up to you to decide where it should be. :-) I think Wikia is a good choice for those who don't want to be dealing with server-side issues or costs. If you believe that the technical ability to start and maintain the wiki software is available (whether you or they can provide it), and if you are sure that the hosting will be maintained, then there's no problem with hosting it anywhere. For various reasons, I felt it was suitable for the English language furry wiki to be here, but it doesn't mean others have to. We can link back and forth wherever you are. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 16:22, 8 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I talked to my boyfriend, whom I will be sharing the bandwidth with, and unless I magically get an insane permanent-ish workload, it sounds as though I'll privately host the wiki when we get set up at the new host. Would put it somewhere around early December, which suits me fine as that puts it past most of my current deadlines. --[[User:Quotingmungo|quoting_mungo]] 17:41, 8 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> Aaand, I'm slow at getting things done, as usual. I'm still working on this, and it should get somewhere relatively soon (or so I hope), so I just wanted to draw your attention to one [http://furry.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Quotingmungo#Sverige_Furry little thing]. Whether or not you feel the Swedish wiki logo should have anything in common with WikiFur's (font and general text layout is what's in question here, I have an idea of what I want to do instead of the pawprint graphic) is totally up to you. --[[User:Quotingmungo|quoting_mungo]] 08:52, 14 January 2007 (UTC)<br /> :I'm personally fine with furry wikis in other languages having similar logos to WikiFur, as long as they ''act'' essentially like WikiFur as well (that is, the purpose and general &quot;spirit&quot; of the site remains the same, though obviously the details of the policies would develop based on its own community). For example, I wouldn't want a German equivalent of [[Furry Horrors Wiki]] using it - that wouldn't fit in with the expectations that users have of the logo. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 09:03, 14 January 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::Thank you, I appreciate the quick response. --[[User:Quotingmungo|quoting_mungo]] 09:07, 14 January 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == More All Fur Fun stuff! ==<br /> <br /> Hi GreenReaper! All Fur Fun (the new furry convention) has a new website up and running. It's already linked, but I was hoping someone could edit the convention's entry to show that we're a bit more organized now, hehe! I'd do it myself, but I tend to do Very Wrong Things when I try to edit wiki pages, so I'd rather have someone with experience do it. ;D<br /> <br /> Thanks in advance! :D<br /> <br /> --[[User:Teeka|Teeka]] 02:36, 11 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Did it last night, but forgot to note that here. If I've missed anything, or if you develop more details over time, do feel free to add it in. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 23:50, 11 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thanks for the offer ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for the offer, and the cleanup of my page. If it would be at all possible, would you please make my page more wiki friendly? I'm not the best wiki editor. Much Thanks in advance. -- [[Jaie_Davis]]<br /> <br /> == RVDDP2501 character name change request ==<br /> <br /> Hey GreenReaper, how are you doing, listen, I'm sorry to ask you to do this for me yet again but I need two character's names changed, the characters [[Slash]] and [[Short]], I need the last name WhiteEye added to the both of them so they would be e.g. Slash WhiteEye, thanks, I would really appreciate your help with this - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 17:29, 16 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Thanks - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 11:33, 17 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> It was the least I could do to honor the memory of a fine person and a dedicated Furry (He was a Cheetah because he had freckles...lol).<br /> <br /> I know all of you furries who knew him must miss him terribly. <br /> <br /> I know I still find myself thinking of David from time to time and wish his life had not been taken away so violently and suddenly.<br /> <br /> David's death was followed the week after by my Mother's death and the week after that my Grandma passed.<br /> <br /> Three loved ones in three weeks.....you never know when they are gonna go...so make sure they know how much you love them...while they are here. <br /> <br /> I am not a Furry, but, your members are really great people. Keep the fur flying!<br /> <br /> == Nice job on the Did You Know section... ==<br /> <br /> I just wanted to say, nice job on it. I never knew that CSI or any sutch show even '''knew''' about the fandom, let alone made episodes with dramatically skewed ideas. (Yiffing parties! :) hmm... whered they hear of those? I'd REALLY like to know... :b ) I wonder, I think theres an episode of law and order with furr... also, nice for ptting it on the front page. [[User:CchristianTehWazzit|cchristian]]<br /> :Glad you like it! We should really update it more frequently. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 23:19, 23 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Hey, I'd be happy to fill it in for you or do something to help if you gave me some material or something. :) [[User:CchristianTehWazzit|cchristian]]<br /> :::Feel free to have a look through [[Special:Newpages]] to find some interesting tidbits, then [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Template:Did_you_know&amp;action=edit replace the current text] and add your new stuff to the [[WikiFur:Did you know?|archive page]]. There are other suggestions for ways to help on the [[WikiFur:Community Central|Community Central]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 14:45, 24 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Wikifur page problem ==<br /> <br /> Hey GreenReaper, I don't know if this is a problem caused by my computer, but recently the pages on wikifur seem a little out of pleace, all the user access links (contributions, watch list, etc.) are covered up by the page I'm looking at plust the page options (discussion, edit, etc.) are also covering up the pages name, the only thing I have done is update my internet explorer to 7.0, is this in fact a problem with my computer or is it something that is wrong with wikifur, please let me know, thanks - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 14:24, 26 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :This appears to be a problem with Wikia - they have changed the CSS in a way that is incompatible with IE7. I've sent them a little note about this, hopefully it will be fixed within a day or so. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 21:16, 26 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Thanks, let me know when this has been fixed cause I reverted back to the previous version of IE since the problem was starting to annoy me :-) - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 21:30, 26 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Image:Kirru sized.png ==<br /> <br /> Hello GreenReaper,<br /> <br /> This is in regards to ''[[:Image:Kirru sized.png]]''. It has not been tagged with a copyright status. This can be a complicated area, so I can try to help if you need any. The Wikipedia [[Wikipedia:WP:IUP|Image use policy]] may give some background, but it isn't policy here.<br /> <br /> To deal with this image, there are a few choices:<br /> <br /> * If you are the copyright holder, release it under a free license, for example:<br /> ** [[Wikipedia:Public domain|Public domain]] &lt;nowiki&gt;{{PDImage}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;<br /> ** [[Wikipedia:Creative Commons|Creative Commons]] Attribution-ShareAlike &lt;nowiki&gt;{{Cc-by-sa-2.5}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;<br /> ** [[Wikipedia:GFDL|GFDL]] &lt;nowiki&gt;{{GFDL}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;<br /> * If you are asserting that this image is usable under fair use, add an appropriate fair use tag. A very basic summary is that fair use is used for commentary, criticism and review on the image when no free image could be used instead. Some fair use tags are:<br /> ** Logos: &lt;nowiki&gt;{{logo}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;<br /> ** Covers: &lt;nowiki&gt;{{Cover}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;<br /> ** Comic panels: &lt;nowiki&gt;{{Comic-panel}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;<br /> * If the image is already under a free license, provide information on the license, and tag the image if you can.<br /> * If you would like the image to be deleted, ask any [[WikiFur:Administrators|administrator]]<br /> <br /> To see a list of current copyright tags available on WikiFur, see [[:Category:Image copyright tags]]<br /> If the copyright status is not resolved, the image may be deleted.<br /> <br /> Unless you have a question for me specifically, I'd prefer responses on the page for the image. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 01:27, 28 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == My Wikifur page ==<br /> <br /> Hey, thanks for the help, I'm kinda new to this stuff ^.^<br /> <br /> Little question tho, my page is also in the 'hybrid' catagory... Shouldn't be, since I'm 100% pure fox. How can I change that? [[User:Darkfoxx|Darkfoxx]] 14:22, 1 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : I took care of that for you [[User:Simba B|Simba B]] 15:32, 1 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: Thanks, Simba. Darkfoxx: The categories an article is in are defined by the &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Category:]]&lt;/nowiki&gt; tags, usually at the bottom of the page. Remove them, and it removes an article from the category. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 15:43, 1 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == WikiFur Central/Header ==<br /> <br /> It appears that since your latest edits to [[Template:WikiFur Central/Header]], it is now covering up the [[Template:Newsbar]], at least when I view it under Firefox. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 00:23, 3 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Eh, never mind. Looks like you fixed it. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 00:25, 3 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::''Interested users should see [[Talk:WikiFur Furry Central#Featured article length]] for more details.'' --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 17:28, 4 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Species ==<br /> <br /> Is it okay to change species? cause i don't think a wolf fits me well . . . [[User:Wolfie|Wolfie]] 02:07, 5 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :it's fine, but changing your'e account name here? that's a thing... [[User:CchristianTehWazzit|cchristian]]<br /> <br /> ::Nobody's going to stop you doing either, though if you change your name, let me know what it is and I can move the appropriate pages over so that the history is retained, rather than just copying and pasting it. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 03:01, 5 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I guess i would want my new name to be Skunk-Raccoon. [[User:Wolfie|Wolfie]] 03:10, 5 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Not going for something a little more . . . original? The danger of such names is that you might change over time, and also other people tend to do the same thing (see [[Tigerwolf]]). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 03:13, 5 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::Original? Well . . . i'll try, uhm . . . could it taken from a band name or something? [[User:Wolfie|Wolfie]] 15:39, 5 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::It's up to you. I just want to help try and avoid name clashes in the future. The advantage of making up a name that nobody else has is that . . . well, nobody else has it. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 16:09, 5 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::I think i came up with my name . . . &quot;Basic Bassist&quot;. It's not the coolest, but, it works, i guess :) [[User:Wolfie|Wolfie]] 22:12, 5 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::Cool. Let me know when you're sure, and if you want me to move the pages about you to a new location (perhaps after you register that as a nickname here). [[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 22:18, 5 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::So, i just register that name, and that's it? [[User:Wolfie|Wolfie]] 22:25, 5 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::Well, and tell me here. '''*grin*''' [[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 22:30, 5 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::::Huh? [[User:Wolfie|Wolfie]] 22:33, 5 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::::&quot;I wouldn't want to move your user page until you've registered the name, so tell me here once you have.&quot; [[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 22:46, 5 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::::::Alright [[User:Basic Basist|Basic Basist]] 14:53, 6 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::::::::Done! [[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 15:03, 6 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::::::::Thank you!!! '''*hugs*''' [[User:Basic Basist|Basic Basist]] 23:56, 6 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::::::::::I spelled &quot;Bassist&quot; wrong . . . could you fix it? [[User:Basic Basist|Basic Basist]] 02:27, 9 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::::::::::Sure. [[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 02:48, 9 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Greetings==<br /> Hello, thanks for the welcome! I've removed some unnecessary personal info from a vandal's userpage, since no one here has checkuser it would be of no benefit to them. [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=User:Jewbo_Wales&amp;oldid=104070 Here] is the version with the IP info on it, in case you need to request a checkuser with the staff. ^_^ [[User:Redfur|Redfur]] 04:50, 6 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica&amp;curid=3443&amp;diff=104122&amp;oldid=104094 Heh] ==<br /> <br /> I (&lt;nowiki&gt;http://encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/Ket&lt;/nowiki&gt;) didn't really consider it vandalism, so I removed that section. Hope that's fine-[[User:SkippFox|SkippFox]] 09:10, 6 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Block of 71.98.64.0/18 ==<br /> <br /> Are you sure about blocking that entire subnet? We've only had two vandlism incidents from there over the last 24 hours. I'm concerned that we might exclude potential contributors from that block. May I propose that we unblock that block and reblock only if we keep having incidents of vandalism from there? --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 21:21, 6 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> :If you wish. It's only 16384 addresses, though - I doubt we have contributors and trolls in that same block. [[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 22:09, 6 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thanks for the welcome. ==<br /> <br /> I'm slowly getting myself back onto the net, so this was as good a place to start as any. :D {{unsigned|Khromat}}<br /> <br /> == Reversed clock time? ==<br /> <br /> Note the [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=High_Tail_Hall&amp;action=history edit history] for [[High Tail Hall]], specifically, my recent minor revisions. WTF. The &quot;on second thought&quot; revision should have been applied after the correction of possessive form. Repeating the edit seems to have been effective, but I'd rather not see that kind of glitch happening to anyone else. -- [[User:Siege|Siege]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:Siege|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 10:08, 10 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> :This is due to de-synched clocks on the various Wikia servers... if you look at the actual revision numbers, you'll see that 105229 is listed as occuring after 105230. This ''should'' only affect diff viewing and histories (but can be spotted by looking at the numbers). We are attempting to find the reason for the time desynchings, but this happens every once in a while. I've asked the techies to see if there is an easy way to fix these (it should be a simple as swapping the timestamps of any revisions that are not chronologically sequential, maybe). --[[w:User:Splarka|Splarka]] &lt;small&gt;([[w:User_talk:Splarka|talk]])&lt;/small&gt; 10:34, 10 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Request ==<br /> <br /> Ok, the discussion seems to have died on the talk page, so I'll ask you personally: can you just delete the info on Aardvark, as he seems to have moved on to other wikis? He hasn't vandalized here in about two months, I don't see the purpose. I understand he tried to get it removed a while back, but was... none too friendly about it and vandalized pages. Well, while that's not the only reason I registered, it's part of it - to get rid of his personal info. I've removed it from the [[ED]] article already and several editors, including yourself, have had their attentions drawn to edits to that article, but no one has reverted. Does this mean you feel it's not necessary? Let's say he goes for the rest of 2006 without vandalizing WikiFur - would you consider deleting the vandal page for him then?<br /> <br /> ALso, someone has brought up that I may be Blu Aardvark... I'm open to having a staff member checkuser me to prove I'm not. I've actually edited elsewhere under other accounts - I would assume that's allowed on Wikia for privacy reasons, but they can at least tell you I'm located far from Blu Aardvark and edit elsewhere constructively. [[User:Redfur|Redfur]] 13:34, 12 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> *You there? WOuld this be better handled by email? Or are you unconcerned? I don't mean to pester, but it's been buggin me. [[User:Redfur|Redfur]] 01:38, 13 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I'm here, but I have other things to deal with - work, sponsor relations and quick replies come ahead of replies to things I have to think about. :-)<br /> ::If you don't get reverted on the ED page, then chances are nobody cares. However, I see nothing on the vandalism record page concerned that needs to be removed. There is no mention of the user's real name, or his full address, so it should not come up on searches for that, but it is possible for our users to obtain it if the vandalism resumes. It '''will''' come up on searches for Blu Aardvark (not high, as few pages link to it), but that seems more than appropriate, since the edits were made in connection with that name.<br /> ::As he says himself, he's &quot;opted for the benefits of accountability versus the benefits of anonymity.&quot; If he wants the benefits, he has to be willing to accept the costs as well. We're not about to give his life story (as ED would), but we will say what he did on our wiki, and point to other wikis where he did the same thing so people can see that, yes, there is a pattern here. Our objective is to stop him doing it again, or failing that, be able to respond in a meaningful way by contacting his internet service provider and asking them to enforce their terms of service against a specific customer. I don't see how hiding what he did will help that - I would view it as assurance that I could get away with anything if I waited a few months.<br /> ::What ''will'' happen is that time will pass and eventually people who do happen across it won't care about what wikis he vandalized 5 years ago. He could quite reasonably say on his own page, &quot;Well, yes, this happened, but I've moved on.&quot; I don't think many people are going to believe that after 3 months, though. [[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 15:46, 13 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I guess the info that remains isn't so bad. I've taken his real name out of the pages it links to, so if you insist, I'm only happy you replied. Thanks! [[User:Redfur|Redfur]] 06:39, 14 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thoughts on spam from webstores? ==<br /> <br /> I've seen some links that state a specific item is &quot;available at &lt;insert webstore URL here&gt;&quot; where the website is an ordinary online store not involved with the creation of said item. When does this constitute unwanted spam? If the item can be Googled fairly easily, should we delete such link postings? Should we be supportive if the store is sufficiently furry or furry-friendly? -- [[User:Frizzy|Frizzy]] 01:25, 13 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Well, this depends on the situation, but if the link does provide value to readers I wouldn't remove it. I may even have added it myself. There's a difference between &quot;could be googled fairly easily&quot; and &quot;everyone will know where buy this item, and will do so without being prompted to do so,&quot; and it can often be the difference between a sale and a missed opportunity. I ''would'' probably consider putting a furry-friendly store above a generic link to Amazon.com, but I wouldn't remove a link to Amazon.com if it made it more likely that people would buy whatever it was. I see people buying more furry stuff as a '''good''' thing. *grin* [[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 01:36, 13 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == IRC statistics ==<br /> <br /> I think you should edit it so that it shows it by person, not by nickname. also, it need an update because even though it has the names of people who said only 5 or 6 lines, my names are not listed... I was also wondering, where can I put my stuff about the IRC that I'm working on? thanks Green, [[User:CchristianTehWazzit|- cchristian]]<br /> <br /> == Archive Time? ==<br /> <br /> IMHO, it's time for another User Talk Archive, GR. =3 [[User:SpazKitty|Spaz Kitty]] 23:46, 20 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == This is not cool ==<br /> <br /> encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php?title=User:Dukeotterland&amp;curid=27747&amp;diff=1997066886&amp;oldid=1997066552 That. [[User:Tretonin|Tretonin]] 16:15, 29 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Why are you complaining to GR about that edit? He's not an admin on ED. If you have a problem with my conduct there, you should take it up with the ED admins. (Or feel free to bring it up with me directly if you wish.)<br /> :And, for the record, I made the exact same edit to my userpage over on ED. www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php?title=User:Dmuth&amp;curid=32694&amp;diff=1997066885&amp;oldid=1997066457 --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 16:40, 29 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == because I felt like it... ==<br /> <br /> {{furry treat|being... small... and uh.. green... yeah............................ }}<br /> <br /> ......... '''- ''[[user:cchristianTehWazzit|cchristian]]'' &lt;small&gt;[[user talk:cchristianTehWazzit|talk]]&lt;/small&gt;'''<br /> <br /> == removal of name ==<br /> <br /> Sorry to bother you again, I made a request from you about a year ago pertaining to the removal of my name and desc from your wikifur site(this was done &amp; I thank you for it). I've one further request which I hope is in your power to grant, which is: Could you please remove my name entirely from even pointing to that I was ever on this site? As it stands now when I do a search in google or Yahoo, it immediately pops up at the top of this list even though there is no actual description in the wiki, it still gives a desc of past avatars and the info that I no longer wished to be apart of the site. Thanks in advance<br /> T*o*m N*a*r*e*y &lt;--done to keep the name from cropping up once again :)<br /> <br /> :I have removed your name from the disambiguation page that mentioned it - it should be OK as long as the fan names are only associated with each other and not yours. This was the one that Yahoo particularly liked. I cannot guarantee when they will update their cached version of the page - until they do, it will still show up under your name.<br /> <br /> :I'm a little uncomfortable with removing our talk pages about the exclusion request, since they're essentially our public record of why it's excluded in the first page. It is true that admins can always look, but my view is that if you're hiding something, you should at least not be able to hide the request to hide something. If people care that much about your involvement in a fandom ten years ago, you have to wonder whether they're worth working for . . .<br /> <br /> :Regardless, another administrator has decided to delete it (read: remove it from public view) for now. The short message stating that you requested removal needs to remain on the actual page, regardless of the fate of the actual request, as without that there is no basis for people to avoid writing about you here. The best way to ensure people don't even read that is to make a web page about yourself that is titled with and which mentions your name. That way '''it''' will end up as the main hit for your name, rather than WikiFur, as long as you link it in a few places. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 02:19, 13 January 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> The problem is, is that there is no indication of when I was involved. It just says that I was. I've no idea why my name might be up there as I never really did anything in the fandom except create a few pieces of art and almost immediately deleted them within a few months of their creation. Like it or not, there is a dark stigma attached to that fandom by professionals in the game, vfx, sfx, comics, industries; of which I would liked to have had left behind. {{unsigned|128.195.85.174}}<br /> <br /> :Well, nothing prevented the ''addition'' of a date. :-) I'm guessing a fan who liked your artwork on Yerf started the article about you (it was done by [[Special:Contributions/24.155.47.5|an anonymous user]]). As for the stigma - well, I guess I must be lucky, since I work for a company that's in games and they're not unaware of my fandom activities - heck, I have a picture up in my cubicle, and my boss will be dropping me off at the airport for FC this Thursday. Maybe the rules are different for programmers vs. artists, but I like to think times are changing, too. It gets harder to treat furry fandom as its [[stereotype]] when fans start buying out [[Wikipedia:David L. Lawrence Convention Center|convention centers]] for a weekend. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 22:02, 16 January 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thanks for the welcome ==<br /> <br /> Hey, GreenReaper. Thanks for welcoming me. As for your offer to help, I was wondering if you could give me an idea about what might get my [[Xerxes Qados|fursona's]] article to lose its cleanup tag. {{unsigned|XerxesQ}}<br /> <br /> :Sure. Often, the user who put that tag on will have left a comment in the [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Xerxes_Qados&amp;action=history history]. If it is not clear enough, or if there is no comment there, then you can ask them directly on their talk page. Making sure that an article sounds like an encyclopedia (e.g. avoids the use of an overly-informal tone) is generally a good idea, and the intent of many of the cleanup tags that are put on (we really need a few more specific tags than just cleanup). Of course, you don't have to agree with all of what they think is wrong about the article, and you can take the cleanup tag off once you think it's fine. They might then choose to do nothing, or edit it themselves, or give a more specific discussion on the talk page associated with the article. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 21:32, 13 January 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Search ==<br /> <br /> Just wondering - how do you control the appearance of the links on the left side of the screen, in particular the search box?<br /> <br /> I'm asking not on account of anything to do with WikiFur, but because of a different wiki where I've started doing some edits. On that wiki there is only a search button, and below that you can select to search that wiki, or a Google web search. I would like to suggest to the admins of that wiki that they consider changing it to the Go and Search buttons like we have here on WikiFur. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 22:30, 22 January 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I'm afraid the answer here is &quot;I don't know&quot;. The search box was, I think, tweaked somewhat by [[wikia:Wikia, Inc.|Wikia]]. I would suggest asking some of their techs would be a reasonable next step. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 07:30, 23 January 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == The Lion King MUCK article ==<br /> <br /> Excuse the rollback, but your edit to [[The Lion King MUCK]] doesn't seem to have been made to the most recent version of the article, and I think it'll be easier to re-do the tables then drift back through edit histories and get the rest of the article restored in bits. -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 06:12, 29 January 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Good catch there. I think I must have been looking in an older version of the article to see if it had a History section that had been removed. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 06:15, 29 January 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thanks and hiya! ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for sorting my page out dude! I just got some questions: How do I do picture boxes and am I okay to put more up about the stories and stuff?<br /> Cya! [[User:Darker the Dragon|Darker]]<br /> <br /> :You do picture boxes using the syntax in [[Help:Editing]] (for example: &lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;[[Image:Filename.png|right|thumb|200px|An image floating to the right of 200px width]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt; - but first, you need to [[Special:Upload|upload the image]]. Make sure that the uploaded filename is descriptive. As for your stories, you're welcome to add more information about them, as long as it remains a descriptive piece about the works. Such descriptions should probably remain on the page about you unless they cover a work that has been published in paper form and have a notability aside from yourself (this is a slightly fuzzy boundary, but the majority of short stories and unpublished works lie under it). Oh, and on talk pages, you can sign your conversations with &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt;, and get something like this: --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 17:18, 3 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == page name change request by RVDDP2501 ==<br /> <br /> Hey GreenReaper, Listen, I'm sorry to bother you bu I was wondering if you could change two page names for me, could you add the last name &quot;WhiteEye&quot; to [[Miki]] and [[Rokko]] for me and I stupidly didn't know one could update a pic on any wiki, I uploaded a new pic of the Rokko character, I was wondering if you could delete the previous version called &quot;Extinctioners_cast_Rokko_by_Ebonyleopard.jpg&quot; for me, thank you I awould really appreciate it, thank you - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 11:47, 4 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Looks like [[User:Rat|someone]] already did it. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 16:20, 4 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Ok, thanks :-) - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 16:34, 4 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == just thanking for the welcome ==<br /> <br /> thanx for the welcome, btw is this the correct etiquette on answering usertalk msgs?<br /> <br /> --[[User:Tigro Spottystripes|Tigro Spottystripes]] 03:03, 8 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :You're welcome, and yes, it is right to respond on the other person's talk page unless they specifically say at the top of it that they will watch yours. Some people will have copies of their conversations on both pages, others may just respond on the page of the person they're talking to. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 03:06, 8 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Protected Dragonmorph ==<br /> <br /> Hi there GreenReaper, this is Dragonmorph (for real), can you protect my editing from those unknown Furry haters? --[[User:216.61.101.247|216.61.101.247]] 15:51, 12 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :It seems to be fairly well protected already - the change made by a recent vandal was [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Andres_Chung%2C_Jr.&amp;action=history reverted one minute later]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 18:43, 12 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: Those trolls is gonna start messing up this web again and again. --[[User:216.61.101.247|216.61.101.247]] 20:22, 13 February 2007 (UTC) - Dragonmorph<br /> <br /> :::It's always possible . . . but if they've not managed it this past year and a half, and not for lack of trying, I think we're reasonably secure. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 20:56, 13 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Page move and disambiguation page request ==<br /> <br /> Hey there. I was wondering if you or one of the other admins could move [[Orzel]] to [[Orzel_Aquila]], and add a disambiguation page for [[Orzel]] to link to either [[Orzel_Tastyeagle]] or [[Orzel_Aquila]]. I can't determine how to easily do this myself, so I figure I'll ask you to take care of it for me.<br /> <br /> If there is an easy way to do it, point me to the correct place and I'll take care of it myself.<br /> <br /> Thanks. --[[User:Orzel|Orzel]] 08:15, 15 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Sure! It should be sorted now. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 08:22, 15 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Comics Template ==<br /> <br /> Hey, Reaper sir. I have a proposition.<br /> <br /> I don't know a great deal on the workings of WikiFur, but I am familiar with Wikipedia, and there's one thing I havn't seen here: templates. On Wikipedia, I think in particular of albums, they have -- ah, heck, I'm sure you know what I mean.<br /> <br /> Infobox! That's the name.<br /> <br /> Anyways... My point is that, and correct me if I'm wrong, they don't seem to exist here on wikifur, and assuming there isn't some technical reason for not having them, I think this place can greatly benefit from them. In particular, I'd like to see an infobox for all the comics we have, so that we can give them all a nice, unified look. It would make things look more professional, and it would help organize all the information easier.<br /> <br /> I... think that wound up as more of a ramble than anything else, but yes, that's my idea.<br /> <br /> [[User:Immelmann|Immelmann]] 02:27, 16 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> : *sigh* Wanna know how awesome I am? Apparently there IS such a thing on wikifur. It's just that no one uses them.<br /> Maybe I should propose a project or something to add the to all the comic pages... [[User:Immelmann|Immelmann]] 03:07, 16 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Oh, we do use them,... We are starting to incorporate them to the appropriate entries, but it's a slow process. Your idea of additional infoboxes is quite fine, the problem is time, coding and incorporation (See: [[Forum:Infoboxes]].) [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 03:24, 16 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :There are, as has been mentioned, [[WikiFur:Templates|quite a few templates]]. If you're interested in helping to add them, and think it would add value to the project, go right ahead! We could use the help. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 03:36, 16 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> == What am I==<br /> Hey, i figured youd be the person to ask. I tried looking other places on the wiki, so here it is: Im a 17 year old male into Furry comics and animations(of the adult type). I can see myself engaging in intercourse with anthromoprhic animals, but not animals in real life. I dont fursuit, and im straight. What does this make me on the furry scale? {{unsigned|DJLO}}<br /> <br /> :Hi there! I think I can manage that. Let's take a look on the Official Furry Scale:<br /> &lt;table width=&quot;100%&quot;&gt;<br /> &lt;tr style=&quot;font-weight: 700;text-align: center&quot;&gt;<br /> &lt;td&gt;0<br /> &lt;td&gt;1<br /> &lt;td&gt;2<br /> &lt;td&gt;3<br /> &lt;td&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:red&quot;&gt;4&lt;/span&gt;<br /> &lt;td&gt;5<br /> &lt;td&gt;6<br /> &lt;td&gt;7<br /> &lt;td&gt;8<br /> &lt;td&gt;9<br /> &lt;td&gt;10<br /> &lt;/tr&gt;<br /> &lt;tr&gt;<br /> &lt;td colspan=&quot;11&quot;&gt;<br /> &lt;hr&gt;<br /> &lt;/td&gt;<br /> &lt;/tr&gt;<br /> &lt;tr&gt;<br /> &lt;td&gt;[[Rush Limbaugh]]<br /> &lt;td&gt;[[Mundane]]<br /> &lt;td&gt;[[Nonfur]]<br /> &lt;td&gt;[[:Category:Comics|Comic lovers]]<br /> &lt;td&gt;[[Role-playing|Roleplayers]]<br /> &lt;td&gt;[[Homosexuality|Homosexuals]]<br /> &lt;td&gt;[[Fursuit]]ers<br /> &lt;td&gt;[[Therian|Therians]]<br /> &lt;td&gt;[[Plushophilia|Plushophiles]]<br /> &lt;td&gt;[[Skunkfucker|Skunkf***ers]]<br /> &lt;td&gt;[[Mark Merlino]]<br /> &lt;/tr&gt;<br /> &lt;/table&gt;<br /> You are a '''&lt;span style=&quot;color:red&quot;&gt;4&lt;/span&gt;'''. Hope that helps! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 04:46, 17 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> &lt;small&gt;Note: Anyone who takes the above seriously deserves to. :-)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> :Oh man, that is SO wrong. I like it! --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 19:27, 17 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> haha thanks! [[User:DJLO|DJ]] 20:12, 17 February 2007 (UTC<br /> <br /> So this means the average furry is homosexual? I knew it haha!!--[[User:Tagenar|Tagenar]] 22:10, 17 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Removing a NPOV ==<br /> <br /> I am not sure if I have done enough research, so forgive me for missing a relevant FAQ, but I want to know how to remove a NPOV designation from the entry on Wolfhome. Is there a procedure for this? If it still seems to be a slanted viewpoint, what criteria is there for knowing when it has been successfully reworked?<br /> <br /> On a separate note, I am curious how to sign a document that I've edited... Yeah, I know, I *really* gotta learn how to RTFM someday! :) My posts are showing up with &quot;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wunderwood&quot;... Am I supposed to sign my comments?<br /> :I'm sure GR will forgive me for responding on his talk page, but to sign your comments, just type &lt;nowiki&gt;-- ~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt; and it will autosign it. Also, you can just click on the 2nd button from the right on the toolbar, the button that looks like a squiggly.--[[User:KendricksRedtail|Kendricks Redtail]] 03:30, 17 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Thanks, Kendricks. I will practice by signing this update. :) Anyone want to step up to the plate on the NPOV question? It's not urgent or anything, but I figured since Wolfhome is active now and the article isn't all that acerbic, maybe it should be considered. --[[User:Wunderwood|underdog]] 00:30, 18 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :If you think it has been successfully neutralized, you are welcome to remove the template. If people disagree, they will probably add it back, along with a note to the talk page or in the edit summary. The criteria is the people's consensus opinion of the article. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 00:35, 18 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thanks for the Welcome! ==<br /> <br /> Hi GreenReaper, thanks for welcoming me to WikiFur! I've messaged you once before in the [[Funday_PawPet_Show|FPS]] IRC channel (under the name wolfi386). I have to say, once again, that WikiFur has been an excellent introduction to the furry fandom for me. Being so new to the fandom (my first exposure to fandom-produced furry artwork was roughly three years ago, but I only started exploring the fandom itself about two months ago), I probably won't be able to expand many articles at first, but I'll do my best at copy-editing and [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Glossary#W|wikification]] in the meantime! :) --[[User:Chaos386|chaos386]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:Chaos386|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 18:55, 17 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Just another member saying thank you ==<br /> <br /> Hi GreenReaper, I just also wanted to say thanks for the welcome and kind offer of help, I really appreciate the warm welcome. [[User:CrimsonDivine|Crimson Divine]]<br /> <br /> == Archiving talk pages ==<br /> <br /> How do I archive an over-full Talk page so that it has a &quot;Talk archives&quot; box like this page? [[User:Mitch|Mitch]] 20:53, 19 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Have a look at [[User talk:GreenReaper/Header]]. You can copy the top to make your own - I use &lt;nowiki&gt;{{User talk:GreenReaper/Header}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; to include it. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 20:59, 19 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == thanks ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for the welcome. There was one question I had, how to send messages; but as you can see I found it out for myself. ^_^ &lt;small&gt;—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Nido|Nido]] ([[User talk:Nido|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Nido|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.&lt;/small&gt;&lt;!-- [Template:Unsigned] --&gt;<br /> <br /> :Hehe, indeed! It's usually a good idea to sign messages on talk pages, too, so other people reading don't have to go back into the history to see who said what - you can do this by putting &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt; at the end (or just &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt; for your name) - like this: --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 05:50, 22 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Hello and thanks! ==<br /> <br /> Hey GreenReaper! Thanks for your help and for cleaning up my page! You're kindness has not gone unnoticed!! &gt;^.^&lt; --[[User:Kitoichi|Kitoichi]] 03:37, 1 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> :It was [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Kitoichi_Aoiro&amp;action=history a team effort] - but, on behalf of the team, you're welcome! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 04:12, 1 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Anthrocon 2007 plannings ==<br /> <br /> I've created a new page over at [[WikiFur:Conventions/Anthrocon/2007]] so that we can discuss what is planned for AC07 as far as wikifur related activities as we discussed on IRC. Please add whatever information or ideas you have concerning events and such. :) -- [[User:JSharp|JaeSharp]] 10:40, 1 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Furry Category:Furry] ==<br /> <br /> Any chance you'd consider asking the whole Wikifur community to contribute more pictures for this category and Category:Fursuit? -- [[User:Zanimum|Zanimum]] 18:13, 1 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :''We talked in [[WikiFur:IRC|IRC]] - for those interested in free-licensed images, check out [[:Category:Images by license]]''. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 18:21, 1 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Abando ==<br /> <br /> Hello! Regarding [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Abando&amp;diff=123558&amp;oldid=123557 your last change] to [[Abando]], I did mean the actual site, not the website (it doesn't exist yet). I couldn't find a real word for the meaning, it's a place in the country, it's like a farm but there is no [[wikipedia:Primary sector of industry|primary sector]] activity, it's just a private site, and quite large at that, with almost 84 [[wikipedia:acre|acres]] (almost 34 [[wikipedia:hectare|ha]]). There's many pictures at part 2 of [http://www.infolobo.org/abando/abando.html this page].<br /> <br /> Thank you for the help! :-) [[User:Ekevu|Ekevu]] 13:30, 5 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == [[User talk: Scani#Vandals|Re: Vandals]] ==<br /> <br /> No prob - just happened to be fortuitous timing! --[[User:Scani|Scani]] 01:51, 6 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Hey! Thanks for warm the welcome and clean-up of my page. I appreciate it. :D &lt;small&gt;—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Tau|Tau]] ([[User talk:Tau|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tau|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.&lt;/small&gt;&lt;!-- [Template:Unsigned] --&gt;<br /> <br /> == Wiki Page, Luca Shoal ==<br /> <br /> Yes, it was Luca Shoal, I was just too stupid to realize that the character from High Tail was a real person. People make mistakes :). Anyway, thanks for cleaning up my page, I know my phrasing isn't the best in the world.<br /> --[[User:VosAbeo|VosAbeo]] 17:39, 18 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Rollback ==<br /> <br /> There doesn't seem to be any precedent, except the one set by SK on the 20&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt; (see [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?days=30&amp;limit=500&amp;title=Special%3ARecentchanges&amp;namespace=2]). I'm really too tired over here to fight, but it just doesn't feel right. '''[[User:Blast|&lt;font color=#DE0000&gt;Bl&lt;/font&gt;]][[User_talk:Blast|&lt;font color=#FCD116&gt;a&lt;/font&gt;]][[User:Blast|&lt;font color=#DE0000&gt;st&lt;/font&gt;]]''' &lt;small&gt; 21.03.07 1324 (UTC)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> :That's probably because you're from Wikipedia, where most users do not have main-namespace articles about themselves. We have very few categories that are intended for user pages, and they are mostly included for things such as convention attendance which are not considered particularly notable (and which therefore have userboxes). Consider: Would you put [[Wikipedia:Category:Animators|Category:Animators]] on a user page at Wikipedia? No . . . if the person was notable enough to have an article in the main namespace, it would be on there instead. You would remove it from a user page, because main-namespace categories are not meant to link to user pages. Here, almost everyone is considered notable, and so has an article about them, and it is those articles that are under [[:Category:People]] and the various subcategories thereof. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 13:31, 21 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :For a few more examples of this, check out the user pages linked at [[WikiFur:Administrators]]. Most of those people also have pages about themselves. In practice, many users do not have anything but the {{tl|ContributorU}} template link on their user page, added by another user. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 13:36, 21 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Yeah, it's hard to get rid of that 'is this notable?' mentality (even if I don't agree with it) on here, so it seemed kind of...I guess narcissistic to make a mainspace article on myself, rather than put it at my userpage (which in practice on WP is where all non-notable people have their 'articles' hosted). Consider also that, when I came here, there were a lot of userspace articles listed in the categories, and so I thought that had been okayed a while ago.<br /> <br /> ::But screw it. I'll shut up and go back to patrolling vandalism on WP now. '''[[User:Blast|&lt;font color=#DE0000&gt;Bl&lt;/font&gt;]][[User_talk:Blast|&lt;font color=#FCD116&gt;a&lt;/font&gt;]][[User:Blast|&lt;font color=#DE0000&gt;st&lt;/font&gt;]]''' &lt;small&gt; 21.03.07 1341 (UTC)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> :::Our major problem with user pages is that they're not easy to find or link to. Most searches only cover the main namespace, and with good reason - because those are the ones people want to read and link to. This is fine for Wikipedia, where user pages do not have notable information on, but it doesn't work so well here, where you might well want to link to pages about artists (for example). It also separates the &quot;information about you&quot; edited by anyone from the &quot;information from you&quot; edited mostly by yourself. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 13:46, 21 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == WikiFur News linkage ==<br /> <br /> Hi GR!<br /> <br /> I just wanted to point something out to you as I'm not sure if it's supposed to work this way or not.<br /> <br /> I've noticed that the [[ConFuzzled]] article has this at the bottom:<br /> <br /> {{WikiFurNews|UK furs plan to be ConFuzzled in 2008}}<br /> <br /> However, the link one would expect to lead to the News article about ConFuzzled actually links back to the ConFuzzled article via: http://furry.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Search/ConFuzzled<br /> <br /> This also happens with the [[Ursa Major Awards]].<br /> <br /> I'm not sure how to, or if I even can, rectify this myself so I was wondering if you could point me in the right direction or help out. :)</div>

Graafen Blackpaw //en.wikifur.com/wiki/DarkFang_Blackpaw 2007-02-22T03:29:56Z

<p>Graafen Blackpaw: Cleanup</p> <hr /> <div>[[Image:Darkfang-tux-FC2007.jpg|thumb|right|DarkFang Blackpaw at [[Further Confusion 2007]]]]<br /> <br /> '''DarkFang Blackpaw''', along with [[Ysengrin Blackpaw]], is a co-founder of [[Running Wolf Productions]], producing [[fursuit]]s and other costuming items.<br /> <br /> Born and raised in central Florida, DarkFang grew up with a variety of interests including theme parks, F/X work, character acting and animation, aviation, technical drafting, and of course, wolves and canines. He often enjoys [[Wikipedia:Scuba diving|Scuba diving]] and [[Wikipedia:General aviation|General aviation]].<br /> <br /> == USAF and Wolf Studios ==<br /> <br /> In 1996, after turning 19, he entered the US Air Force pursuing a military aviation career as a [[Wikipedia:C-130 Hercules|C-130]] Loadmaster. That same year he discovered an [[Wikipedia:Special Effect|SFX]] company in Texas named Wolf Studios. He fell in love with their creativity and attention to detail, and connecting with their animalistic spirit and style, he redirected his career to accomadate both.<br /> <br /> From then on every moment of free time was spent at either Wolf Studios or in his Colorado apartment turned SFX shop where he practiced sculpting, mold making, airbrushing, and werewolf acting. Following the honorable completion of his four year term he moved to Texas to devote full time to learning SFX and haunting. <br /> <br /> After the untimely passing of Wolf Studios' founder, Lance Pope, he moved to California with his business partner Ysengrin Blackpaw, where together they opened Running Wolf Productions.<br /> <br /> == External links ==<br /> * [http://www.runningwolfpack.com/ Running Wolf Productions]<br /> <br /> {{person-stub}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:People]]<br /> [[Category:Fursuiters]]<br /> [[Category:Fursuit makers]]</div>

Graafen Blackpaw //en.wikifur.com/wiki/File:Darkfang-tux-FC2007.jpg 2007-02-22T02:50:14Z

<p>Graafen Blackpaw: DarkFang at FC2007.</p> <hr /> <div>== Summary ==<br /> DarkFang at FC2007.<br /> == Licensing ==<br /> {{Cc-by-2.5}}</div>

Graafen Blackpaw //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Lance_Foxx 2007-02-22T02:08:06Z

<p>Graafen Blackpaw: Corrected Ysengrin and DarkFang's links to point to their user articles.</p> <hr /> <div>{{Cleanup}}<br /> '''Lance Foxx''' (born February 5, 1979) is an American [[furry artist]] that lives in [[Wikipedia:Oceanside, California|Oceanside, California]]. He specializes in [[transformation]] art, but has dabbled in fursuiting and literature.<br /> <br /> == Artistic history ==<br /> Lance began posting on the newsgroup [[alt.horror.werewolves]] in 1997. Until he found the Were and Furry communities online, like many, he thought he was alone with his interest in [[shapeshifting]] dreams and related artwork.<br /> <br /> He related dreams, posted some limited artwork and photographs, and shared [[were]]-related experiences, including potential physical shifts, on his first webpage at Geocities. He soon moved to [[FurNation]] and by 1999, started posting more artwork, mainly transformational artwork to a site called [[Transfur]]. In 2000, he began to explore the furry community to decide what &quot;kinks&quot; he liked and what he didn't like.<br /> <br /> He was surprised to found out that a lot of really weird and bizarre furry fetishes ''did'' actually interest him. He began hanging out in [[vore]] chatrooms, for example, and started to draw his character in prey related scenrios. He also got into [[inflation]], merging, [[transgender]] and inanimate transformations, cybernetics, [[taur]] forms, and much more, mainly centered around TF interests.<br /> <br /> In 2003, Lance involuntarily left Transfur. 2003 was a bad year as a close friend betrayed his trust and forced him and his mate [[Burrwolf]] to find a new place to live with only three days to do so. They lost a few things in the process, including a car and a classic boat.<br /> <br /> Today, Lance is most active in his [[LiveJournal]] and occasionally attends conventions in the SoCal area.<br /> <br /> ==Military==<br /> Lance joined the [[Wikipedia:United States Navy|US Navy]] in 1997 and experienced more active duty in 1998. In late 2001 to 2002, he was stationed off the coast of Pakistan as aid for the [[Wikipedia:United States Marine Corp|US Marine Corp]] in [[Wikipedia:Operation Enduring Freedom|Operation Enduring Freedom]]. Lance returned home in 2002 where he was discharged from the Navy. He is currently enlisted in the [[Wikipedia:United States Navy Reserve|Navy Reserve]], and has a civilian job as a security guard.<br /> <br /> == Conventions ==<br /> Lance had attended ConFurences [[ConFurence 10|10]] and [[ConFurence 12|12]], but he considers his first real furry convention [[Anthrocon 2004]]. Lance has also attended both [[Further Confusion 2005]] and [[Further Confusion 2006]]. He has never had a dealer's table, but hopes to do so in the future. Lance had expressed wishes to attend [[Further Confusion 2007]], but has been unable to do so. [http://lance-foxx.livejournal.com/146757.html]<br /> <br /> He was surprised with his very first [[fursuit]], made by [[Ysengrin Blackpaw]] and [[DarkFang Blackpaw]] of [[Running Wolf Productions]]. He donned the suit at FurCon '06 and took part in the [[Fursuit parade|parade]]. [http://www.runningwolfpack.com/misc/foxx01.jpg]<br /> <br /> == Character ==<br /> Character wise, Lance plays himself. His character is very personal to him because it's not a seperate personality. He views his &quot;Lance Foxx&quot; character as himself, only furry. His character began as a normal fox. He has always known how he has looked because he has seen himself in dreams. His has golden orange fur, yellow eyes, black ears, white underbelly, and a bushy white tipped tail. The black of his fox &quot;gloves&quot; goes as high as halfway up towards the elbows on his arms and halfway up to the knees on his legs. He stands digitigrade and can shapeshift. He started out with it always being an interest of his &quot;character&quot; but very difficult to do. He tried to give himself a bit of a learning curve with real time and over the years, he made his character slowly get better at it. In 2003, while in an RP, he made the first permenant change to his character in which he became a liquid shapeshifter. This was inspired by Terminotaur and TOS, two online friends who also had liquid shapeshifting characters. He has never regretted the change and has been very thankful for it. Now he can shapeshift easily, but limits himself by his ability to concentrate on it and by having the will power to do so. He can make himself solid, as he clearly remembers what it was like to be that way, but he can &quot;slip&quot; into liquid form quite easily.<br /> <br /> == External links ==<br /> {{Contributor}}<br /> * [http://lance-foxx.livejournal.com/ lance_foxx] on [[LiveJournal]]<br /> * [http://lance-foxx.deviantart.com Lance-Foxx] on [[deviantART]]<br /> * [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/lancefoxx Lance_Foxx] on [[FurAffinity]]<br /> <br /> [[Category:People]]<br /> [[Category:Artists]]<br /> [[Category:Fursuiters]]<br /> [[Category:Red Fox characters]]<br /> [[Category:Milfurs]]<br /> [[Category:1979 births]]<br /> [[Category:California]]</div>

Graafen Blackpaw //en.wikifur.com/wiki/ConFuzzled 2007-02-20T18:04:25Z

<p>Graafen Blackpaw: Editing FurbleFox to point to his Userpage.</p> <hr /> <div>[[Image:NewConFuzzledLogo.jpg|right|220px|ConFuzzled]]<br /> '''ConFuzzled''', sometimes called the '''UK Furcon''' (and colloquially nicknamed &quot;the [[convention]] what'll never happen&quot; by UK Furs) is an event proposed to celebrate the genre of [[anthropomorphic]]s, or [[furry fandom]]. It is currently in the planning stage, with hopes that it could be the first full scale furry [[convention]] in the United Kingdom.<br /> <br /> == Recent announcements ==<br /> <br /> On 1 February 2007, ConFuzzled announced on their website they have confirmed a venue for June 2008 at [[wikipedia:YHA|YHA]] International, Manchester. They plan to have a [[Eurofurence]] like system with registration, accommodation and food included in one price. They also plan to allow [[convention sponsorship|sponsorship]].<br /> <br /> On 18th February 2007, ConFuzzled unveiled their new website and logo (seen at top right) and announced further details of convention events.<br /> <br /> == Staff ==<br /> <br /> * '''[[ExiledWolf]]''' - Convention Operations Co-Ordinator &amp; Media Relations.<br /> * '''[[User:Furblefox|FurbleFox]]''' - (Also known as CaliHusky) : Convention Founder &amp; Events Management.<br /> * '''[[Graafen Blackpaw]]''' - Convention Operations Manager.<br /> * '''[[Leinir]]''' - Website Administrator/Coder.<br /> * '''[[LevLion]]''' - Convention Co Founder &amp; Stage A/V Management.<br /> * '''[[Southpaw]]''' - Convention Co-Founder &amp; Registration Lead.<br /> * '''[[Tigz]]''' - Head Of Security &amp; Emergency Co-Ordinator.<br /> * '''[[Wolfspawn3]]''' - Server Administrator.<br /> <br /> == Date and location ==<br /> <br /> ConFuzzled has tentatively been proposed for June of 2008 in [[wikipedia:Manchester|Manchester]], [[wikipedia:North West England|North West England]]. Details such as registration cost remain to be worked out.<br /> <br /> == History ==<br /> <br /> Planning for ConFuzzled started in 2005, after several people from the UK Furry Community were frustrated by the lack of organization of others and decided to organize a furry convention, based upon their experience with [[Furmeet]]s.<br /> <br /> == External links ==<br /> <br /> * [http://www.confuzzled.org.uk/ ConFuzzled website]<br /> <br /> [[Category:Proposed conventions]]<br /> [[Category:United Kingdom]]<br /> [[Category:2008 births]]</div>

Graafen Blackpaw //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Graafen_Blackpaw 2007-02-20T12:48:32Z

<p>Graafen Blackpaw: Update to fursuit section due to passage of time.</p> <hr /> <div>[[Image:Graafen_001sized.jpg|thumb|right|Graafen Blackpaw by [[Kaijima A. Frostfang]]]]<br /> <br /> '''Graafen Blackpaw''' is a [[werewolf]] and member of the Blackpaw pack. Born in 1983, he has lived in [[Wikipedia:Yorkshire|Yorkshire]] for his entire life and currently lives in [[Wikipedia:Wakefield|Wakefield]], [[Wikipedia:West Yorkshire|West Yorkshire]], [[Wikipedia:United Kingdom|United Kingdom]], working for a large IT company as a Customer Support Technician. He plans to move to [[Wikipedia:America|America]] at some point in the future but is unsure of when.<br /> <br /> Graafen has also been known as '''Thalyi E. Wolfe''' since 2000.<br /> <br /> == Fursuits ==<br /> <br /> Graafen is an avid [[fursuit]]er. He currently owns two fursuits: ''Thalyi'' and ''Boswell''.<br /> <br /> '''Thalyi''' debuted at [[Further Confusion 2005]]. Created by [[Jax The Purple Bat]] from Graafen's online character, Thalyi is a hybrid of Wolf and domestic Cat which gives him a pronounced cleft lip and a long wolf tail.<br /> <br /> '''Boswell''' debuted at [[Further Confusion 2006]]. Created by [[Noble A. Wolf]], Boswell is a black and purple furred 'gothic' skunk.<br /> <br /> Graafen's newest fursuit is a werewolf suit, created by [http://www.runningwolfpack.com Running Wolf Productions], and is a physical reflection of what he believes to be his true identity. It debuted on Halloween 2006 and made it's first convention appearance at [[Futher Confusion 2007]].<br /> <br /> {{person-stub}}<br /> <br /> == External links ==<br /> {{Contributor|Graafen Blackpaw}}<br /> * ''[http://graafen.livejournal.com/ Tails of a closet Werewolf]'' - Graafen Blackpaw's [[LiveJournal]]<br /> * [http://www.werewolf-inside.com/ Werewolf-Inside] - Graafen's personal website.<br /> * [http://www.werewolf-inside.com/gallery/ Werewolf-Inside Gallery]<br /> <br /> [[Category:People]][[Category:Fursuiters]]<br /> [[Category:United Kingdom]]<br /> [[Category:1983 births]]</div>

Graafen Blackpaw //en.wikifur.com/wiki/ConFuzzled 2007-02-20T12:40:43Z

<p>Graafen Blackpaw: Changing &quot;Graafen&quot; to &quot;Graafen Blackpaw&quot;.</p> <hr /> <div>[[Image:NewConFuzzledLogo.jpg|right|220px|ConFuzzled]]<br /> '''ConFuzzled''', sometimes called the '''UK Furcon''' (and colloquially nicknamed &quot;the [[convention]] what'll never happen&quot; by UK Furs) is an event proposed to celebrate the genre of [[anthropomorphic]]s, or [[furry fandom]]. It is currently in the planning stage, with hopes that it could be the first full scale furry [[convention]] in the United Kingdom.<br /> <br /> == Recent announcements ==<br /> <br /> On 1 February 2007, ConFuzzled announced on their website they have confirmed a venue for June 2008 at [[wikipedia:YHA|YHA]] International, Manchester. They plan to have a [[Eurofurence]] like system with registration, accommodation and food included in one price. They also plan to allow [[convention sponsorship|sponsorship]].<br /> <br /> On 18th February 2007, ConFuzzled unveiled their new website and logo (seen at top right) and announced further details of convention events.<br /> <br /> == Staff ==<br /> <br /> * '''[[ExiledWolf]]''' - Convention Operations Co-Ordinator &amp; Media Relations.<br /> * '''[[FurbleFox]]''' - (Also known as CaliHusky) : Convention Founder &amp; Events Management.<br /> * '''[[Graafen Blackpaw]]''' - Convention Operations Manager.<br /> * '''[[Leinir]]''' - Website Administrator/Coder.<br /> * '''[[LevLion]]''' - Convention Co Founder &amp; Stage A/V Management.<br /> * '''[[Southpaw]]''' - Convention Co-Founder &amp; Registration Lead.<br /> * '''[[Tigz]]''' - Head Of Security &amp; Emergency Co-Ordinator.<br /> * '''[[Wolfspawn3]]''' - Server Administrator.<br /> <br /> == Date and location ==<br /> <br /> ConFuzzled has tentatively been proposed for June of 2008 in [[wikipedia:Manchester|Manchester]], [[wikipedia:North West England|North West England]]. Details such as registration cost remain to be worked out.<br /> <br /> == History ==<br /> <br /> Planning for ConFuzzled started in 2005, after several people from the UK Furry Community were frustrated by the lack of organization of others and decided to organize a furry convention, based upon their experience with [[Furmeet]]s.<br /> <br /> == External links ==<br /> <br /> * [http://www.confuzzled.org.uk/ ConFuzzled website]<br /> <br /> [[Category:Proposed conventions]]<br /> [[Category:United Kingdom]]<br /> [[Category:2008 births]]</div>

Graafen Blackpaw //en.wikifur.com/wiki/User_talk:GreenReaper 2006-07-05T16:22:56Z

<p>Graafen Blackpaw: /* Categorization */</p> <hr /> <div>&lt;!-- You probably want to add stuff at the bottom of this page --&gt;<br /> {{User talk:GreenReaper/Header}}<br /> == Hi you ... ==<br /> Thanks for your welcome!<br /> I only joined 'cause somebody made a wiki page about me ... and in some kind it was wrong. x_x;<br /> So that's all.<br /> <br /> --[[User:Meeko|Meeko]] 01:40, 25 Mai 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Hi, GreenReaper ==<br /> <br /> This is partly a test to see if I've got this editor figured out before I do anything important with it. I notice someone put in an entry for yours truly (in fact that's how I wandered in - I was checking old Other Suns links which led to Nicolai's entry which led to mine) which I may update later; at least I suppose the fact that I was Den Mother of ConFurence for years and am now holding that position in CaliFur is at interesting as anything already there. Also an excuse for putting in a few Ursa Major links inasmuch as I maintain the Recommended List.<br /> <br /> Speaking of which, I got your note suggesting the addition of WikiFur to the Recommended Anthropomorphics list for this year - makes sense, though I'll have to discuss where to put it with the rest of the committee. We're currently counting nominations for this year's Ursa Major ballot.<br /> --[[User:Yealurowluro|Yealurowluro]] 00:58, 6 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Glad you got my note! I wasn't entirely sure if I should suggest it myself, but I figured it's something that's worth reading. :-) <br /> <br /> :It looks like you have the wiki editing figured out. Please do contribute to any articles you find lacking, and good luck figuring out those nominations. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 21:04, 5 April 2006 (PDT)<br /> <br /> == Moving assistance. ==<br /> <br /> Hey GreenReaper,<br /> <br /> Thanks for the help moving the page for my listing. I was woundering if it should have been moved over as you did, but didn't have time IRL to send a message. The dire warning kinda steared me off. (I figured I would mess around with my own page before messing up some one elses =)<br /> <br /> :No problem! A lot of people start off in the User: namespace, as that's where you would normally do it on (e.g.) Wikipedia. <br /> <br /> Let me know if I'm misplacing anyother articles so we can keep the database as consistant as possable! (Or if you have any other suggestions)<br /> <br /> :I'm sure I or another contributor will let you know should that be the case. :-)<br /> <br /> I hope the format of the post is accaptable. I wrote the thing in third person as if I was writing about someone else. Thanks again - PG<br /> <br /> :That was fine. Feel free to edit your User: page if you want to say something from first-person persepective in addition to that which is already there (but don't feel you have to - most people are just fine with what's on the page about them already). --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 03:02, 7 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thanks ==<br /> <br /> Thank you for the kind welcome. Though I've been active on Wikipedia forever (and I'm admin there), I've only just discovered wikifur today. I'm happy to help out in any area that needs it, and I've already added stubs for [[Wild Life]] and [[Wildlifers]]! [[User:Starblind|Andrew Lenahan]] - &lt;b&gt;&lt;FONT COLOR=&quot;#FF0000&quot;&gt;St&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT COLOR=&quot;#FF5500&quot;&gt;ar&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT COLOR=&quot;#FF8000&quot;&gt;bli&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT COLOR=&quot;#FFC000&quot;&gt;nd&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/b&gt; 15:43, 7 April 2006 (PDT)<br /> <br /> :Excellent . . . *scoops up some cover pics for those* --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 23:27, 7 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==View counts==<br /> I've noticed that the view counts in [[:Special:Popularpages]] have not updated at least since last Thursday on several articles I've been following, even though I've viewed some of those articles myself during that time. I've verified this from two different computers and used a couple of other tricks to make reasonably certain it's not a browser cache issue. What gives?<br /> <br /> Edit: There are also several hundred articles that currently show 0 views.<br /> --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 14:23, 10 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Yes. I had a chat with the admins and apparently they had to discontinue popular pages updating due to server loads. We can get the same sort of information from the google analytics stats, so it's no ''great'' loss, although it is a pity that people can't access that without talking to me first.<br /> <br /> :As this makes the page rather useless, I've removed the link in the main page header and added in links to the article and user talk pages instead. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 16:29, 10 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Re my WikiFur entry ==<br /> <br /> Just noticed that you had stuck in an unwritten link from the Kay Shapero entry for the Anthropomorphic Literature and Arts Association. I had deliberately NOT put a link there, because the ALAA exists to produce the Recommended List and present the Ursa Major awards, both of which have links right after the reference. So I figured it would be superfluous. What do you think? I could probably write an entry, but it'd only be a couple of lines long and probably wouldn't contain much you can't find out from the other two links. --[[User:Yealurowluro|Yealurowluro]]<br /> <br /> :(I'm not GR, but we never have a shortage of opinions around here! :-) Actually, even the small amount of information you mention would be useful, if only to define the parametes of the organization and to show that it is independent of any other organization out there (when I first saw mention of ALAA, I erroneously conflated it with [[AAE]], which is a different beastie entirely). ----[[User:DuncanDaHusky|DuncanDaHusky]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:DuncanDaHusky|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 00:28, 11 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :That's basically why I put it in there (also because I rememebered it was linked in [[Ursa Major Awards]]). If you really don't think it should have an entry, take it out, but as Duncan mentions, [[Anthropomorphic Arts and Education]] seems to do well enough. It's a short page, but it gives a link to the organization, and as it is a separate page it can be put into [[:Category:Organizations]] which helps us keep a tab on all such organizations. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 03:19, 11 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==To Stub or Not to Stub?==<br /> Is there a guideline as to when a short article (which just doesn't have much to say) doesn't need to be tagged as a stub? 1000 bytes, etc.? Wouldn't stop anyone from dropping in to make changes anyway. Just curious. --[[User:Frizzy|Frizzy]] 23:11, 14 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I usually go by the rule of whether I feel there's anything that ought to be added (but that I'm not sure about or don't know or don't feel like putting in right now). -- [[User:Siege|Siege]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:Siege|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 05:02, 15 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The general rule is &quot;if there is probably something that could be added fairly easily by someone who doesn't know much about the topic&quot; (say with a few minutes of google searching) then it is a stub. If not, then it is not a stub, although if you can describe it entirely in a couple of lines, it is probably a strong candidate for merging with another article. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 08:04, 15 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Categorization?==<br /> Thanks for the quick feedback! I was looking through WikiFur's [[:Help:Furry_Book_of_Style|style guide]] and had another question: Are there any guidelines on category order at the end of articles? I was going through alphabetically, but it might be helpful to define this in the style guide if there's a prefered order to doing this. --[[User:Frizzy|Frizzy]] 19:10, 16 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Technically any order is fine. In practice, for articles about people I've tended to do People and then subcategories of People (note that we only do this category + subcategory thing with people so as to get a full listing in that category), and then their location and year of birth/death. In general I would put the most important or relevant category first, but that's just a personal style. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 20:44, 16 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::What you describe is what I've been doing, GreenReaper. I described it in some detail over at [[:Category_talk:Root]]. -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 21:37, 16 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Requesting page protection ==<br /> <br /> How do I go about requesting my page to be locked so that only myself and administrators can edit it? --[[Banrai|Banrai]]<br /> <br /> :You just did. I'm at work right now so I can't really look that closely to ensure it's appropriate, but I will later this evening.<br /> <br /> :Be aware that &quot;your page&quot; is [[User:Banrai]]. [[Banrai]] is &quot;the page about you&quot;. As such it is expected to be reasonably complete, and I do find it odd that there is no mention or reference to the actions mentioned in a certain LiveJournal entry that comes up when searching for your name. What's past is past, and it is important not to dwell on it, but it does deserve recording so that people understand how things ended up as they are today (and so we don't get complaints on the talk page from people who think things are being hidden). I will try and see about that tonight as well. I'm not a concerned party other than ensuring the accuracy of the article, and I don't particularly want to raise any drama about it, so fear not - it'll be brief.<br /> <br /> :Oh, and just something I noticed glancing over the page - you only need to link to other articles the ''first'' time a linkable name comes up, not every time. It's assumed that people will already have clicked on the link if they want to go to it. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 15:04, 19 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I added a small blurb about... that. But feel free to edit it as you see fit. It's a very personal preferance that the article itself not actually be linked, since it IS over and done, but.. yeah, you're the mod. I also went back in and fixed the massive-linking, so it looks a little cleaner now. ;3 --[[User:Banrai|Banrai]]<br /> <br /> :::I've not linked it. Instead, I spent a while reading various sources, then tried to give a summary of your actions, the context behind them - part of which was already evident in previous sections - and the response from others, without turning it into a duplicate of that post (or another [[Sibe]]). I think it says all that needs to be said about that without taking up too much of the article. If people really want to know more, I'm sure they can find out for themselves - but I suspect for most it is enough that they will not feel the need to do so.<br /> <br /> :::As for your request, the article seems a good one as it stands. I will post a notice on the talk page, and unless there is significant dissent from the WikiFur community I will enable the page protection within a day or so. If at a later point you decide that you no longer want the page protected then any admin can help you remove it at request. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 06:35, 20 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Repeated vandalism and blocking ==<br /> <br /> I've just blocked an IP for what I now see is repeated vandalism. ([http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special:Log&amp;type=block&amp;page=User:70.180.173.165 Three incidents so far].)<br /> Do we have an understood point where we block for longer periods, or infinitely? -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 03:20, 21 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I would say go up by one category per repeated offense - hours, days, weeks, months, years (or forever). If all they do is vandalism feel free to skip a step. We're not Wikipedia, we've not really got time to deal with trouble again and again. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 03:32, 21 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Vandal IPs found<br /> <br /> 69.210.142.84 and<br /> 68.202.53.196<br /> They were found posting images of the vandalism in /b/<br /> <br /> == Questions about Des Lee? ==<br /> <br /> Hey there! Thought I'd drop a line and see if I could answer any questions you might have about Desiree. I set up a basic entry for her awhile ago, but I'd noticed you had a question or two concerning her on my page. Anyway, if I can be of assistance, let me know! Thanks!<br /> <br /> :Note [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Jim_Hardiman&amp;curid=3935&amp;diff=53558&amp;oldid=50672 my recent edit] and comment on the [[Talk:Jim Hardiman|talk page]], but I'll carry over here and say that I think the question was about those quote-marks around &quot;friend&quot;. -- [[User:Siege|Siege]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:Siege|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 20:30, 22 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Yep, replied on the talk page. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 21:24, 22 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Edit patrols ==<br /> <br /> It's about this time that I think bringing back the &quot;patrol this edit&quot; marker may be a good idea. It just has to be explained clearly: &quot;These markers are for admin to make rounds of patrols through the various edits,&quot; and so forth. I'd also like to suggest a proxy banlist which is shared across Wikia. That way, once a proxy is confirmed, all wikis have the option of automatically banning it. -- [[User:Siege|Siege]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:Siege|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 06:24, 26 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I would support the creation of a shared proxy banlist with all of Wikia. Is there a feature for this currently in mediawiki or would it have to be added through some sort of module? -- [[User:DeVandalizer|DeVandalizer]] 06:33, 26 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :This might be a good idea. We are getting a lot of edits - certainly more than I manage to have the time to look at, let alone edit. We can probably try enabling it for a time.<br /> <br /> :I think there is actually a proxy blacklist. We may be using a service, in which case it probably doesn't get everything. JasonR on the live chat would be the perosn to talk to about that (or he's available via technical at wikia dot com, or the wikia-l mailing list, or the wikia LiveJournal). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 08:12, 26 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thanks for the Welcome! ==<br /> <br /> I was figuring it would come at some point or another. Very much appreciated. :) [[User:Bastique|Bastique]] 13:00, 27 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Database error on page move ==<br /> <br /> I was attempting to move [[Art Show]] over its redirect [[Art show]] (note the caps - one is the name of a show, the other is a type), and I received this error:<br /> <br /> :A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was: <br /> ::&lt;tt&gt;UPDATE `wikicities`.`gpage` SET page_namespace = '0',page_title = 'Art_show' WHERE page_namespace = '0' AND page_title = 'Art_Show'&lt;/tt&gt;<br /> :from within function &quot;&lt;tt&gt;Database::update&lt;/tt&gt;&quot;. MySQL returned error &quot;&lt;tt&gt;1062: Duplicate entry 'furry-0-Art_show' for key 2 (paris.wikia.com)&lt;/tt&gt;&quot;.<br /> <br /> Would you mind passing this on to the Wikia folks? Looks like the parser is missing the routine which checks for a page/redirect/whatever under the name being moved to. Thanks. -- [[User:Siege|Siege]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:Siege|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 10:13, 28 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Hi Back. ==<br /> <br /> This is a bit awkward, but I think this is the right way to do it. I'm looking over a variety of articles to see what I can add to. I lengthened Ken Fletcher's piece a little -- he deserves more, but it's hard to do him justice, even knowing him fairly well. (Ken is modest to the point of humility.) Kevin Duane's piece broke me up. I could add 10,000 words, but wouldn't know where to start. And do I want to make him out a clown, a villain, a well-intentioned schlemiel, or just a guy who got a lot of bad breaks? Then there was Steve Martin. Another perplexing case. I had to add a bit more detail to the &quot;controversy&quot; section, that put the customs debacle in a somewhat better light.<br /> <br /> Ah... I wonder what other delights await? --[[User:Taral Wayne|Taral Wayne]]<br /> <br /> :It can be hard. Pages [[Sibe|can and have]] been written about [[Banrai#Past disputes|past disputes]], but in the end the actual situation can usually be boiled down to just a few paragraphs written in a fairly dry tone. If in doubt, just add the facts, and try to make sure you don't leave out any facts in a way that could be viewed as biased by not giving reasonable coverage of all sides of the story. If you think you're up to writing a more lengthy piece, and you think it is appropriate for the article concerned, [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Be bold in updating pages|be bold]] and do so. Wikipedia has [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Neutrality|lots of advice]] on how to go about this.<br /> <br /> :Whatever you do decide to add, thank you for taking the time to do so. WikiFur relies on the contributions of those who know the full history of events, and in many cases there are only a few people in the world who do. Hopefully this project will go some way towards ensuring that the history of the fandom doesn't fade away, as I think that would be a shame.<br /> <br /> :Oh, and note that you can sign comments on talk pages with &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~, or just ~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt; if you want to do it without the date. There's no need to do so on the main article pages, as they're intended to be community work anyway (and a full history of contributions is kept in the history tab if it's required). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 10:02, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I think I'll just leave the Kevin Duane item as it is. While there's a hundred times more, it isn't really that important, and what's there is probably impartial enough. Though I doubt very much Kevin would own up to much on the negative side of the ledger.<br /> <br /> ::By the way, what would keep him from editing out everything he didn't like, and painting a glowing picture of himself?<br /> <br /> :::Nothing. However, he'd probably find such edits mysteriously changed back a few minutes later. Some people around here tend to watch [[Special:Recentchanges|recent changes]] like a hawk and can very quickly pick up on editors who are trying to modify history, especially their own. There are [[WikiFur:Personal information|established procedures]] for requesting the removal of certain items of personal information. Blanking or removing information without comment do not count, and won't have the desired effect. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 10:20, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Hello ==<br /> <br /> Hi, thanks for the welcome! I just have to say that I'm very impressed by the speed at which the articles are updated :)<br /> <br /> --[[User:MrZebra|MrZebra]] 10:16, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Glad you like it! We aim to please. ;-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 10:20, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thanks for the assistance ==<br /> <br /> Thank you for loading a higher-resolution picture for me. I appreciate that. And thanks for the welcome as well. :)<br /> <br /> --[[Equestrian]]<br /> <br /> == Asking your permission ==<br /> <br /> Would it be okay with you to upload [http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/Image:Taxidermy.gif this image] to wikifur? It is an animated gif of scenes from the CSI furry episode. It's 1.8MB so I'm obviously not going to risk spending the long time uploading it if it gets deleted and I'm hoping somebody else will do it. If that is not acceptable, would a link to it in the CSI article be allowed? There's no pressure if you don't agree with these. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 05:43, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I probably wouldn't delete it. It is not the best pictoral representation of the whole show, though. The animation tells a story, but it is not the whole story about the show, just as the show does not tell the whole story about the fandom. Its [http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/Taxidermy purpose on ED] was to promote [[fursecution]] (to whit, the conversion of furries into trophies and rugs) and the selection of passages in the animation is limited to those supporting that argument. I believe that a small selection of screen captures from various points in the show added by use of the &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;gallery&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt; tag (see [[The Forest]] for an example) might be a better addition to the article.<br /> <br /> :Another thing to consider - if it takes you a long time to upload it, it will take a long time for many of our contributors to download it as well. 2Mb pages are not really a good idea. This suggests that a link to the animation would be more appropriate, with a note of the file size for those on modems. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 07:54, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::About size, I see so many websites designed where the only way you can view them is flash. I don't know what the deal with that. The real size getter is YTMNDs where each one is huge and often a copy of several other ones with just a tiny change. You know you're actually a pretty cool person (and probably same for others here) compared to the wikipedia furry community where any mention of furries that isn't in their &quot;furries never yiff, or dress in custumes more than bunny ears, and all furries are heterosexual, and there are the same number of male and female furries&quot; propoganda means a witchhunt and I think it's one of the reasons why encyclopedia dramatica has all the anti-furry stuff--and the site says somewhere it's the denial of some furry aspects that get them made fun of----that can be compared to how the site doesn't make fun of star wars / star trek nerds with more than a small amount. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 10:51, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Flash is not the most ideal system for web user interfaces (although it does have enviable compatability compared to things like JavaScript). I won't go so far as to say that Flash has no place. It is a good system for the delivery of multimedia content. We tend to link to that rather than host it, though. :-)<br /> <br /> :::It is true that people are sometimes overly defensive. However, at the same time, some have good reason - there [http://forums.hatersonline.com/viewtopic.php?t=164 really are] &quot;furry haters&quot; for which it is a hobby to just go out there and spread the message that furries suck. Most of them don't actually ''know'' anything about the fandom, participate in any of the events, or contribute anything - they're just having fun putting other people down. I'm more than willing to accept criticism from people like [[Nothingkat]], who at least knows what he's talking about. And . . . well, I've not heard people make the above assertions before. I'm sure a lot of people say &quot;not all furries yiff, not all dress up in fursuits, not all are gay and furries are not all male&quot;, but there's a big difference between that and utter denial.<br /> <br /> :::As for Wikipedia, you have to remember that the purpose of their project (as ours) is to '''make an encyclopedia''', ''not'' to make fun of people. The [[Wikipedia:furry fandom|furry fandom]] article already has five whole paragraphs on sexual activities. I think that gives readers a fairly good idea of the extent of sexual content in the fandom. When you get [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Furry_lifestyler&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=51228054 edits] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Furry_Wikipedians&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=51070460 like] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Furry_fandom&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=50860121 these], it is very easy to see why a lot of them get reverted.<br /> <br /> :::ED would have furry stuff on it regardless, I am sure. After all, we already own [[LiveJournal]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 01:32, 6 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Thanks!==<br /> Thank you for your barnstar award, I appreciate your recognition. I have found in recent weeks just how difficult it is to start a Wika, and it's always nice to have someone appreciate the work. While I still need to read up on the goals and concept of this Wiki, I'm a big comic book fan and can hopefully help with some new content. You can contact me at my [http://oc.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Xtreme680 talk page] at [http://oc.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page The O.C. Wikia]. - [[User:Xtreme680|Xtreme680]] 09:33, 6 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==My page got vandalized...==<br /> Apparently it happened today even, suprisinly. Some user going by the name of Clambake....*sigh*. And it has to be somebody with access to aby.com or yiffstar.com, because that's the ONLY place I've posted the picture used with even a slight bit of public access. --[[User:lucashoal|lucashoal]] 3:40 PM, May 9 2006 (EST)<br /> :I will say that the staff already reverted the edits made to your page. The image, though I have not seen it, was already deleted. ----[[User:Markus|Markus]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:Markus|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 23:41, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Indeed. [[User:DuncanDaHusky|Duncan]] was pretty quick on the ball!<br /> <br /> ::I find it odd that you were able to revert their work so quickly - according to [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Luca_Shoal&amp;curid=651&amp;action=history the history], just four minutes passed between the picture being uploaded and your reversion. How did you know that they had posted the picture there? --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 00:23, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I just decided to log in today to see if anyone had left me a note, or made any changes to my page. And seeing the picture, well... It was a matter of luck really. I know it seems....fishy, but I honestly had no way at all of knowing this edit had taken place.<br /> :::As for the picture? It was a picture of me, not just Luca, but me in the real world. Specifically, it was one taken at a babyfur party, and in a pink dress.<br /> :::Thank you though for everything ^^. [[User:Lucashoal|Lucashoal]] 9:03 PM, May 9 2006 (EST)<br /> <br /> ::::'''*grins*''' - well, you were fortunate, then. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 05:04, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Interesting article on this whole problem in [http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/17/technology/17wiki.html The New York Times] (Growing Wikipedia Revises Its 'Anyone Can Edit' Policy) -- although the article is about &quot;big&quot; Wikipedia the principles and concerns probably still apply. --[[User:Auliya|Auliya]]<br /> <br /> :Yes. We have the same features here, and have used them, though they too affect only a small proportion of our pages. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 15:46, 19 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Transformation ==<br /> <br /> I'm reasonably sure that [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Transformation&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=57531 this] is actually correct, if badly formatted and perhaps not completely relevant to this wiki. See [http://metamedia.stanford.edu/traumwerk/index.php/More%20Dragons%20in%20Northumbria here] for the rhyme. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 18:45, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I did get a indeed get a positive hit for the rhyme, but Google turned up nothing relevant for Lanelet, Elidia, Zaikhoeven, or &quot;Duncan Frasier&quot; and &quot;Robert Lambe&quot;. I tried several different spelling variants and still came up with nothing. Now, I'm willing to grant that Google is not actually the sum of ''all'' knowledge, but the lack of hits and the near-unreadability of the edit makes me suspicious. ----[[User:DuncanDaHusky|DuncanDaHusky]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:DuncanDaHusky|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 18:55, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Duncan Frasier is cited as the author of the rhyme in the above link. Robert Lambe is likely to be [http://www.exploreberwick.co.uk/ArtsInBerwick/Legends/3_03.htm this guy].<br /> <br /> ::There does seem to be some confusion in online sources about who wrote the item and when it was written. Don't suppose you know any medieval historians? :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 19:10, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I've done some further research and I think I see the problem: it's written in the arcane and byzantine languange of ''academese'', a language I'm afraid I lost my fluency in years ago (and besides, I only ever spoke technical academese - I think it relates to Liberal Arts academese like Classical Latin to Vulgate Latin :-) I'll warrant that it was a valid edit, but written so impenetrably I would question its value. I've found a couple of useful links that might help; I'll probably poke at it a bit more tonight.----[[User:DuncanDaHusky|DuncanDaHusky]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:DuncanDaHusky|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 19:17, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : 1. I am able to translate this. It's pretty much just a load of academic-paper-filling bull, and says very little of relevancy to our wiki.<br /> : 2. Here, lemme take a whack at rebuilding that section.<br /> : -- [[User:Siege|Siege]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:Siege|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 23:32, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thank you ==<br /> <br /> Thank you for fixing my first upload :D I just joined and I'm still trying to get used to it all. I hope I atleast put THIS post in the correct place.<br /> <br /> :'''*grins*''' - yep, you just need to sign it! You can use &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt; to do that (or &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt; if you don't want to put the date). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 05:16, 13 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Howloween Template ==<br /> <br /> Are there any plans to create a Howloween convention template? Howloween is a convention held in British Columbia, during Late October : [http://www.howloween.org Howloween 2006 Website]<br /> <br /> :If you want one, just copy the contents of any existing convention templates to [[Template:User Howloween]] and change accordingly, then create the appropriate category and make it a subcategory of [[:Category:Wikifurries]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 00:36, 15 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Thank you so much. I shall try that. ^_^ --{{UT|Seamora}}<br /> <br /> == Terms with Multiple Definitions ==<br /> <br /> What is commonly done with terms that have more than one definition? Do they have separate pages, and if so , how does one do this?--{{UT|Seamora}}<br /> <br /> :Short answer - it depends! Long answer follows . . .<br /> <br /> :If the terms are related, but with differing nuances, then you might discuss them on the same page. For example, [[yiff]] has many meanings, but they are all related to a reasonably close degree, so they are all described on the same page. In general, you can tell &quot;reasonably close&quot; by the categories - if separate meanings would all fall under the same category then you would probably discuss them together (except people, who always have different articles).<br /> <br /> :Some terms have numerous unrelated meanings. In this case we divide it into separate pages with a qualifier in lowercase [unless a proper name] and inside parenthesis, and then create what is called a [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Disambiguation|disambiguation page]] for people who link to the term without parentheses. The page should have the &lt;tt&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;{{disambig}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/tt&gt; tag at the bottom. If another topic has the name within it, and a shorterned form might conflict, it is given the full title but also included in the disambiguation page.<br /> <br /> :You can see this at [[The Bestiary]], which links to [[The Bestiary (playing cards)]] and [[The Bestiary (comic)]] (which we know exists, just hasn't yet been written about) but also to ''[[The Bestiary's Terrie Smith Does Art Special]]''.<br /> <br /> :We may also make an indented, italic link at the top of the pages if there is possible confusion or the other article is somehow relevant, something like this (for a person called &quot;Delight&quot;):<br /> <br /> :&lt;tt&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;&quot;:''This article is about the [[:Category:People|person]]. For the chocolate bar, see &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Delight (chocolate bar)]].''&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/tt&gt; (or: &lt;tt&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;&quot;There is also a [[Delight (chocolate)|chocolate bar called Delight]].&quot;)&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/tt&gt;<br /> <br /> :In the case where one thing is clearly the more usual or &quot;official&quot; term, but there is another term that should have a different article, like [[skunk]] or [[Eurofurence]], then the general term is used without parentheses and the other term(s) have parentheses or are otherwise made different. We use the above method to link between them.<br /> <br /> :In rare cases, it may also be appropriate to add a parentheses even if there is currently no article at the non-parentheses term. This is done where there might be confusion about what the article should be about. For example, ''[[Furre!]]'' has links to [[Persona Play (Furre!)]] and [[Roleplay (Furre!)]]. This is because the term Roleplay has a special meaning in the context of ''Furre!'', and so it should not link to the main [[role-playing]] article, which has a redirect from Roleplay. For consistency, Persona Play has the same qualifier, even though there is not likely to be another article called Persona Play as it is at term that is specific to Furcadia/Furre!.<br /> <br /> :Deciding what to do in a particular case is sometimes tricky, but it is usually simple once you have done it a few times. Hope the above helps! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 08:41, 15 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thank you! ==<br /> <br /> Heya GreenReaper!! <br /> <br /> The page looks great, hun! Thanks for editing it a bit for me! There are also more WikiFur pages about me including Xelaros and Spirit Creations. I see that you guys don't have a page up for Maned Wolves which I would like to create. Thanks for your help! Give me suggestions any time!<br /> <br /> Inali Ke'aloha<br /> <br /> == Maned wolf page up! ==<br /> <br /> Heya, just wanted to let you know that I created a page about maned wolves since there wasn't one. It could use some editing, such as a contents box and the pictures off to the side. Thanks! --[[User:InaliKealoha|Inali]]<br /> <br /> :Well, it looks like you figured all that out! I moved it to [[Maned Wolf]] because it is a proper name of a species. The contents box will automatically appear if you have four headers in the article. If you do not (or to move it), you can make it appear by adding &lt;nowiki&gt;__TOC__&lt;/nowiki&gt; wherever you want. I sometimes put this inside a div tag that is set to float to the right. You can also hide it with &lt;nowiki&gt;__NOTOC__&lt;/nowiki&gt;.<br /> <br /> :One question ''I'' have, though - do you have permission from the people who made those pictures to put them on this site? While I appreciate that you wish to improve the articles, it is not enough to just state who owns the copyright of an image - if you do not have explicit permission (either by having asked them or through a blanket license or copyright wavier), we cannot display the images. That's what copyright means, after all . . . the right to make copies. Both the [http://www.arkgallery.org/ Ark Gallery] and Kenneth W. Fink/Root Resources sources appear to be non-free in this respect (indeed, the Ark Gallery seems to have a specific note at the bottom saying that images are not for reproduction elsewhere).<br /> <br /> :Oh, and one last thing - on talk pages, it's easier to know who's talking if you sign your name at the end. You can do this by typing &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt;, or just &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt; to do so without adding the date and time. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 03:13, 16 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I will email them and ask permission. If I can't get it from them, I'll ask some others until I get written permission. Where do I post that I have written permission when I get it? Thanks!<br /> <br /> [[User:InaliKealoha|InaliKealoha]] 05:22, 16 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :You should put the permission on the image information page, the one that comes up when you click on the image. You can edit it just like any other page. If you fail to gain permission for those images, let myself or another administrator know, and we will delete it from the WikiFur image store. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 14:04, 16 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I very strongly feel that we should delete the images; they can be uploaded again if permission is given. -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 16:16, 16 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Then do so. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 19:08, 16 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Done. Thanks for the confirmation. -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 23:24, 16 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == hi ==<br /> <br /> &quot;Girl's amateur use of makeup by applying too much and her voice make are evidence she is a teenager below the age of eighteen.&quot; That wasn't meant as personal, though. It was more a Sherlock Holmes style detective work. I just want to be clear it was not my intention. I probably wrote it wrong. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 14:10, 21 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :It just seemed . . . well, like something you'd post on LiveJournal rather than in an encyclopedia, in much the same way as you get anti-furries taking pictures of fat people at cons and going &quot;hey, look, aren't furries fat!&quot; - maybe that wasn't your intention, but it was the vibe I got from your words. Her ''own'' words make her look bad enough as it is without pointing out her use of makeup.<br /> <br /> :A secondary consideration is that page is intended to be just a list of links rather than an in-depth discussion of them. If you really want to write up the details (which would probably include details from both videos), you could make an article on it and then link to it, as with the other articles linked from the media links page. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 18:10, 21 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: Hmmm... you have an odd idea of copying the threads of talk and putting it on both talk pages. Well back to the topic, I also forgot the eyebrows were unplucked (I just wanted to write that down somewhere) as giving evidence that she was a minor. I think I'll put likely minor in the article. Umm.. I don't know if it's worthy of an article itself. It mostly is just a webcam video and then speaking of the vanity fair article. It would be different if it went through the things produced by actual furries, like her reaction to furry pornography art, but I think the video looks like little effort was put into it, and the humor was mostly the behavior of the girl herself. Encyclopedia Dramatica and some of the TV spots for instance do put some effort into their work. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 15:16, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I can just see that sequel: &quot;Valley Girl, Furry Porn&quot;. Nuts and berries, indeed! <br /> <br /> :::I actually think there's an opportunity to do a ''good'' video on furries and put it up there. The question would be whether or not anyone would go around with a videocamera at (say) Anthrocon and film it, and whether or not people would agree to its distribution. Maybe if it was done by someone already respected in the community.<br /> <br /> ::::Speaking for Anthrocon, I can tell you that our [http://www.anthrocon.org/rules-conduct Rules of Conduct] prohibit &quot;broadcasting&quot; of any video taken at the convention, which includes posting it online. --[[User:Dmuth|Giza]] 19:25, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::. . . without permission. I was thinking of one that would be done with permission. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 19:44, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::::Based on my experience, furries at cons get very nervous when there is a camera rolling, due to past bad experiences. I wouldn't recommend holding your breath on getting permission to broadcast anything that's filmed. :-/ --[[User:Dmuth|Giza]] 19:54, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::::Alas! On that general topic, it might be nice to do some kind of &quot;WikiFur Documentary&quot; thing. Maybe we could start with topics like &quot;acting out in [[fursuit]]&quot; or &quot;making your first [[tail]]&quot; and work up to tricky topics like &quot;attending a furry convention&quot;. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 19:59, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::::::Do you mean having documentation here on WikiFur, or elsewhere? If it's here on WikiFur, would such an article still be considered &quot;encyclopedic&quot;? --[[User:Dmuth|Giza]] 21:01, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::::::I believe that there is certainly room on WikiFur for material that is created by a particular person or group of people, something like &quot;RandomVulpine's guide to making furry feet&quot;. Some use their own websites for such material, but if people want to put them up on WikiFur then I think we should be open to that. These should naturally be clearly tagged with a template similar to the current [[:Template:personal-article|personal articles]] one, and should be placed in the User: namespace, or possibly a separate namespace designed for the purpose - Tutorial:, say. They could be linked to from regular articles, though it might be good to make a separately-headed section for them to separate them from the regular links that you'd get in ''See also''.<br /> <br /> :::I tend to copy talk because it's easier for other people to follow that way. I also archive my talk now and then, which makes it harder for people trying to follow the other side of conversation. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 18:55, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Off subject, when the game Spore comes out (a design evolution), I expect it may have something for furry gaming. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 15:18, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I agree, though [[Second Life]] seems to have grabbing most of the virtual furry world for now. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 18:55, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Testing... ==<br /> <br /> I notice one or two articles about me and my comics say they need improving. My question is this: How much is too much? I'd like to do my part without overdoing it, ya know?<br /> <br /> :--[[User:GraveyardGreg|Graveyard Greg]]<br /> <br /> :It's hard to do too much. I guess if you found yourself stretching for something to say, then it might be time to stop. Of course, I have a [[GreenReaper|fairly short article]], but then I don't have much to say about myself, as I've not had a long history in the furry fandom. [[Somewolf]] has a rather longer one. Certainly, comics can be and have been covered in significant depth. The ''[[Gaming Guardians]]'' article is a good idea of the minimum length that gives a good coverage of the key aspects of the topic, enough that it was featured, but it would certainly be possible to add to it without compromising that.<br /> <br /> :It is possible to go much farther, of course. For example, Wikipedia has a very extensive article on ''[[Wikipedia:Kevin and Kell|Kevin and Kell]]''. That would be unusual to see here (probably the closest is ''[[Dan and Mab's Furry Adventures]]'', and the plot is hardly covered there), but if people want to go that far on just about any topic it is welcome. We have many relatively short articles through happenstance, not choice. It's not like we're going to run out of paper, after all. :-)<br /> <br /> :The perfect article tells people everything they want to know about a topic. For some topics, this can be a lot. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 04:16, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Species and characters categories ==<br /> <br /> I think all of us will agree that having subcategories for species, and for characters of those species, is a good thing, up to a certain point. But I'm concerned that we may be getting a little carried away with it. Perhaps we're not to the point yet where we've overdone it and need to backpedal on some of the categories that have been created, but I think we're getting close to that point in some areas, and that it would be a good idea to stop and think about how far we want to go with this.<br /> <br /> What do the rest of you think? More species/character categories, or is it time to rein it in? --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 21:24, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I like to think of it as setting the framework for future growth. Although if we start using Latin names, then I think we've gone too far. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 22:42, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I look at it this way: If I'm a casual reader and I'm interested in, let's say, wolf characters. I click on the Wolf characters category and I see a whole bunch of names, plus (in this instance) sub-categories for Artic Wolf characters, Werewolves, and Wolf-Hybrid characters. Am I going to click on the subcategories to find the one or two listings beneath each entry, or ignore them and use the large main list? From a usability standpoint, I'm not sure I see the usefulness of breaking things down to the point where it's only two or three entries in a category.----[[User:DuncanDaHusky|DuncanDaHusky]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:DuncanDaHusky|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 11:54, 26 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Hiya! ==<br /> <br /> Hey there! Thanks for the warm greet. I didn't exactly get to finish last night due to work issues, AND the fact I wasn't completely sure what I was doing (lol) Looks like someone was kind enough to get the basics started for me anyway :-) <br /> <br /> As I learn a little more, I'd really like to be more active in the Wiki community so hopefully you'll see a little more of me ;-)<br /> <br /> <br /> Regards<br /> -=Wulfsige=-<br /> <br /> ==Thanks!==<br /> Thanks man, this is the best Wiki EVER! - MegaKitsune<br /> <br /> == Reply ==<br /> <br /> ' I guess you found your way here from the creatures wiki' <br /> <br /> Sort of, pretty long story. I think I found them both at relatively the same time, when I started using wikipedia. <br /> <br /> Thanks for the friendly welcomes! --[[User:Listeel|Listeel]] 14:32, 30 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Edit buttons ==<br /> <br /> How do you set up an edit button like Wikifur and the Creatures wiki have? I'm also a member at the Sporewiki and want to contribute a button like that for them {{Unsigned|Listeel}}<br /> <br /> :Check out the [[MediaWiki:Monobook.css]] page, in particular the section starting:<br /> <br /> :''/* Create more space to top and left of the section Edit links and put norn in it */''<br /> <br /> :If you copy this and adjust it for your wiki (you will need to change the URL to match the URL of an image uploaded at your wiki or somewhere else) then it should work. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 20:14, 30 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Infobox question ==<br /> <br /> I've been trying to make an Infobox for [[A Fox in the Works]] page with little luck, something like what Wikipedia has for TV series (ie [[Wikipedia:Babylon_5]]. I'm really don't know what I'm doing, and it's something that would probably work better as a template so it can be used for comics and other furry story series.<br /> <br /> I can't find any help on making an infobox like this, and what I try to do comes up more then a bit fragged. Any help would be greatly appreciated. --[[User:Fox Cutter|Fox Cutter]] 05:13, 2 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Probably the best place to start is [[Wikipedia:Template:Infobox|Wikipedia's sample infobox template]], which is relatively simple as they go. The one you mentioned, [[Wikipedia:Template:Infobox Television|Template:Infobox Television]] is indeed hideously complex, in part because it relies on expressions (which are not yet available at Wikia, so it will give hideously mangled results).<br /> <br /> :Start simple. Just copy the template to a blank Template: page here (perhaps [[Template:Infobox]]!), and then try it out on a page. Try modifying various things, trying it out in the preview. Have a look at [[Wikipedia:Help:Template|Wikipedia's template help]]. It is not, unfortunately, very clear, but it starts off with some useful information. Our [[WikiFur:Templates|templates section]] has various ones that definitely work here, which you could copy from as well. If you get stuck, ask for help on a discussion page, saying what you want it to do, and someone will probably lend a hand (and if not, prod me :-). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 06:00, 2 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Wikipedia.org Extinctioners page being considered for deletion ==<br /> <br /> I'm so upset right now because my Extinctioners page at Wikipedia.org is being considered for deletion, if I try and update the one here, will it also be deleted, please let me know in my talk(if it works) --[[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]]<br /> <br /> :On the contrary, we would be glad to have your contributions, as long as the copyright status of the images is satisfactory (either GFDL or another open form of licensing, or permission for use on WikiFur). As you can see on [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Extinctioners|Wikipedia's deletion proposal]], their reasoning is that ''[[Extinctioners]]'' is not sufficiently notable in the general world for an article. WikiFur is all about the furry fandom, so that's not applicable here. Just remember that as with Wikipedia articles are community efforts - after all, you copied the initial article from here - and you should do fine. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 23:51, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Cleanup? ==<br /> <br /> Well, I've finished both the Extinctioners page and the individual character pages but some of them have a clean up not at the top, how can you clean up what little (in some cases) is there? --[[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]]<br /> <br /> :Perhaps they were referring to the manner in which the text was phrased? For example, it might have been written in first-person, when third-person is more appropriate for an encyclopedia. It might also be that formatting was non-standard or that the article was not correctly categorized (we really need to get specific templates for these, right now cleanup is used for everything). You can always ask the person who put the tag on the article what their precise reasoning was. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 00:42, 7 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Horizontal or vertical? ==<br /> <br /> Hey listen, I'm not being a prud but someone named Dmuth has edited some of my character section (I'm not reporting the editing itself) but he caused the multiple pics the stack ontop each other in the right hand side of the screen, I've fixed mos of them, you can see the original ones he did in the jistory section, please let me know what you think of the matter, alright, thank you. --[[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]]<br /> <br /> :I personally think they look better side by side ''in that particular case''. Those pictures happen to be particularly tall, and the fact that there is little text to go with it means that a better use of the space is to have them in a row. Most WikiFur articles have a lot more text in relation to the numbers of pictures, which is why the convention is to have them at the side, or in a combination of side pictures and a gallery as you can see in [[The Forest]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 00:42, 7 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Andorozon pics ==<br /> <br /> The Creator of the Andorozon comics has sent me an e-mail giving me permission to use his picsm how do I forward you the e-mail to get the pics licenced, the pics up already were drawn by Shawntae Howard and were licenced but Ken Singshow is going to send his own pics, what do I do? --[[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]]<br /> <br /> :I would suggest that you just attach a copy of the email giving permission to the [[Talk:Andorozon|discussion page]] of the [[Andorozon]] article. That way everyone who looks at the article. You could also add a note on the image upload description that links to that page (something like &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Talk:Andorozon|permission information]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;).<br /> <br /> :Also, when writing messages on talk pages please sign your name by putting &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt; at the end so we know who's talking and so who to reply to. It's possible to find that information out by looking at the edit history, but it's a lot easier if it's right there. Thanks! :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 15:34, 5 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Heya. I've noticed that the text of Maxwell Manx (Copy Cat) looks to have come from http://www.geocities.com/extinctioners/profile_copycat.html and I assume that's similarly the case for at least some of the other character articles. Could you clarify that for me? I gather we have permission to use the character images here, but I don't remember reference to text descriptions, and I'm ever anxious about copyright concerns. -- Sine 00:29, 7 June 2006 (UTC) <br /> <br /> I understand what you are saying but believe me, I have been given permission from Shawntae Howard himself to use both his pics and text in this and other related articles pertaining to Extinctioners, listen could you give me your e-mail address so I can forward his e-mail of him giving permission or should I talk about this with GreenReaper what should I do?RVDDP2501 01:17, 7 June 2006 (UTC) <br /> <br /> I'd suggest copying the e-mail to the talk page of the Extinctioners article; I've seen similar things here previously. You could certainly check with GreenReaper to confirm the procedure. <br /> It's great that we have all this Extinctioners material to work with, and that you've been so active with it. -- Sine 02:09, 7 June 2006 (UTC) <br /> <br /> (forgive me if you have already said something on this matter, my memory isn't al that good) so EXACTLY what must I do?<br /> <br /> :All we need on the talk page (or on the Licensing section of the image pages) is something to show that a) you have asked to use the author's copyrighted works, on this website or on Wikipedia (which has similar requirements) and b) that he has said yes. This would probably be your initial request to him, and his reply. This should not a general agreement that you can write a wiki page about the topic (you could do that without asking), but something that makes it clear that you intend to use some related parts of his copyrighted works in the pages - as you say, &quot;both his pics and text&quot;. That is the thing that requires permission, because it is his right to allow copies of his work on this site (or not to allow them, as he sees fit).<br /> <br /> :If you have previously asked for specific permission to use parts of his works rather than just writing ''about'' them, then that's fine - just put a copy of that on the page. If not, you should do so. You could point him to the wiki pages that have already been written (including some of the pictures) and ask him if that kind of use is OK. You could also invite him to look at the [http://furry.wikia.com/wiki/WikiFur:Copyrights copyrights page], and/or to contact us directly if he has questions. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 05:12, 7 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Forum ==<br /> <br /> Good timezone. The [[Forum:Index|forums]] are all set up and ready to go. Let me know if you want help changing anything. I added a [[Help:Forums|help page]] but it's a bit basic at the moment, because I'm still figuring out how things work and what we need to know! It will be good to see how it goes. Later -- [[User:Sannse|sannse]] [[Wikia:User talk:Sannse|(talk)]] 13:41, 8 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Hey, man==<br /> <br /> Thanks for the welcome and comments. I got tagged for cleanup for my article, but I'm not exactly sure where I should start looking to clean it up. Any thoughts? --[[User:Réizàr]]<br /> <br /> :You'd have to ask [[User:DuncanDaHusky]] about that, since he tagged it. However, this passage does spring to mind as one example:<br /> <br /> ::''His most noticeable feature is the moon-and-star tattoo on the back of his left hand, but when asked for a meaning, the most one can expect of the enigmatic weretiger is a sliht shrug, not out of rudeness, but because he has yet to find an actual meaning for it beyond something he drew one day in a fit of boredom.''<br /> <br /> :It's an encyclopedia article, not a MUCK character description. It could just as easily be something like &quot;His most noticeable feature is the moon-and-star tattoo on the back of his left hand, which has no inherent meaning.&quot; There's no call to be mysterious about it. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 23:59, 8 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Ah, okay. Odd though; that's been there for a while, and I was referring to myself IRL. I'll look it over though, and think of a way to simplify it. Thanks.<br /> --[[Réizàr]]<br /> <br /> :::That's just an example of something that popped out at me. He might have been looking at at something else. Given the size of WikiFur, not all people will have read all articles, and so they may come across something that they disagree with that they'd also have disagreed with beforehand. They may also have a threshold before they actually do something about it. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 02:00, 9 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Yeah, it's pretty big here. I'll skim over it a few more times and ask Duncan what else he thinks needs to be cleaned up. One of these days I'll get it right. Hah.<br /> <br /> == Furpile ==<br /> <br /> I've noticed that sometimes the [[WikiFur:Furpile|Furpile]] link goes unupdated, so I've been choosing articles for it. Essentially I've been clicking &quot;Random page&quot; until something suitable turns up. I'm only trying to keep it from going empty, so I won't update it further than a day ahead. So if you want to nominate things you still can. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 04:06, 10 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Thanks! As noted on the page, you can choose as many as you like at once, as long as you don't repeat stuff that's coming up or was recently requested. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 05:35, 10 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thanks from the newbie ==<br /> I just want to say thanks for correcting my spelling errors and welcoming me on my first page. Very appriciated! ~[[Kuzzy]]<br /> <br /> == Galciv ==<br /> <br /> I asked you some questions on that wiki. I don't know if you check it often, so I will note it here. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 13:47, 10 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Hmmm you are faster on checking encyclopedia dramatica than here. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 22:20, 10 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Patience. I get watchlist emails everywhere, I just sometimes don't get around to pressing &quot;Save page&quot; until I have had time to give a proper response. It's only just past breakfast here. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 22:22, 10 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :: Hmm watchlists can send emails. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 23:10, 10 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Watchlists can do everything! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 04:06, 12 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Flyers ==<br /> <br /> I forgot your room number already. But I trust that you found my note about the flyers in the meetup page. I even tried looking for you for an hour. That was rather fun. Spot the norn in the furpile. And without a cell number, I couldn't directly contact you.<br /> <br /> Anyway. See you at the meetup! ----[[User:Markus|Markus]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:Markus|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 07:49, 16 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Don't have a cell phone! But yes, we did indeed meetup, so that was OK. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 01:52, 19 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Recent Changes Error? ==<br /> <br /> Recent changes has the following line in it: &quot;Below are the last 50 changes in the last 7 days, as of $3.&quot; I don't think the $3 is intentional, is it? [[User:SpazKitty|Spaz Kitty]]<br /> <br /> :No, you're right - there's been something up with recent changes since the most recent upgrade. There's a bug filed for it on Wikia, it's just rather low-priority right now, especially since it's probably something that will have to be fixed in the main MediaWiki source code tree anyway. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 05:28, 19 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Brillliant Right! ==<br /> <br /> http://www.truechristian.com/furriesa.html<br /> Interesting! Just wanted to see what you guys think.<br /> <br /> :It's good to see such an authoritative and popular site covering the topic! Shame about the colour scheme, but eh, what can you do? --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 17:20, 19 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::How much of that site did you look at? Not exactly the most flattering portayal of furries. If anything, I'm glad they chose a color scheme that makes it look like an amateur rant. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 18:43, 19 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I was being sarcastic. :-) I guess I should have included the ;-) . . . --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 18:46, 19 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Hmm, okay. My bad. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 19:46, 19 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Hello! ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for the warm welcome! ^-^ I thought this was the best way to display our music to the furry community! I'll be sure to ask you if i need help.<br /> Thanks again,<br /> Ether<br /> <br /> == Extinctioners at Answers.com ==<br /> <br /> Hey GreenReaper, RVDDP2501 here, I just found an Extinctioners page (flawed) at Answer.com I told them about the problems and changes they could make, it looks like an original version I had at wikipedia.org (I guess they hadn't checked for updated versions) I also told them about Wikifurs version, they haven't replied yet, so what do you think - http://www.answers.com/topic/extinctioners, I mean I can't believe how my pages are spreading, you know. - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 19:48, 20 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :They are apt to taking the contents of Wikipedia, aren't they? They do that for a lot of other articles as well - it is an automated system. I doubt they will add WikiFur to their list, though it's always a possibility. They will probably update from Wikipedia over the next few months. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 19:55, 20 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> yeah, your probably right, anyways if you have any ideas, suggestion, etc. about making the page(s) better, please let me know, thanks - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 20:32, 20 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thanks ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for the great welcome. If there is anything that I can do to help, feel free to ask.<br /> <br /> ~Nevar<br /> <br /> == regards ==<br /> <br /> Ghear maidth agus :)<br /> thank you for the welcome. I, too, joined since someone created a wiki of me and my fiance. I figured I needed to correct our wikis and make them as unbiased as possible.<br /> <br /> == Hi. ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for welcoming me. I myself am a [[wizard]] at [[Frontier Galaxy MUCK]] so I figured if nothing else, it'd be my duty to correct that '''that''' little entry. Though I'm blindly stumbling through Wiki's system presently, glad I'm only editing and not adding articles, need to read a bit more before I try something like that. (And I would if I didn't have homework for a test, heh!) --[[User:Autolycus|Autolycus]]<br /> <br /> :Well, it's great that you had the time to fix it up - and should you find any more later, feel free to try your hand at making articles yourself. If it looks like you need help I'm sure one of our regular contributors will step in and lend a hand. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 07:01, 25 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Extinctioners improvement ==<br /> <br /> Hey GreenReaper, thanks a whole lot with the list improvement, seriously, thanks, if there is any other ideas on how to make the page(s) better, by all mean, do what you think is right. - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 02:01, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Of course. In this case I just thought it could be a little more compact before I linked it as our comic of the week. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 02:04, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> &quot;comic of the week&quot;? really!, this is just about the comic or the page as well? I don't quite fully understand what you mean? please let me know, thanks - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 02:08, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Look at the bottom left of the front page. Our comics of the week can be based on various criteria, but in this case I featured it because of the extensive coverage on WikiFur. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 02:11, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> oh, ok, I see it, sorry about that, listen I wanna ask you opinion and/or permission on something, I was planning on creating a page for a Extinctioners character called Krystin [http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/26978911/ deviantart.com] but I was not sure if you and/or Wikifur would approve of the pic of the character which IS a bit mature, I did an edit though in which I put a black back covering the &quot;chest area&quot;, do you want me to upload the censored pic without making the caracter page for you to look at and decide as to whether or not it would be appropriate to make the page with the pic? - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 02:52, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Go ahead and upload the original, if it is appropriate for the character. [[WikiFur:What WikiFur is not#WikiFur is not censored for the protection of minors|WikiFur is not censored for minors]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 02:58, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Ok, I just uploaded the pic of Krystin, the pic name is [[:Image:Extinctioners_cast_Krystin.jpg]], please let me know what you think and if I should go ahead with this character's page, thank you - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 03:09, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Seems reasonable enough. Go for it! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 03:19, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Thank you, I though I would do the right thing and discuss this with you first about the pic before I did something that would be disapproved of by you and others at wikifur, I do not like to make mistakes, ok - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 03:22, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Listen, thanks a whole lot for removing the nude pic of Krystin, I got an e-mail from Shawntae Howard saying he would prefer I not use that pic of Krystin due to it being so mature, he said he would send me another one to use in time, so until then, I uploaded the other version of the same pic only now with a black bar covering her chest, ok, thanks for removing those pics, I couldn't figure out how to do it. (God, I hope I haven't pissed him off) - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 22:11, 28 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :No problem. For future reference, you can always overwrite an image with a newer one by uploading a file and specifying the same destination filename, although deleting it entirely requires an administrator (and it is currently an irreversible operation). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 22:15, 28 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I though that was what i had done, I guess I messed up, I'm sorry to do that to you - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 22:18, 28 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I think you did, too - I saw the original had a black bar on it, but perhaps you didn't notice, because soon after you uploaded a (Censored) version as well. [[User:SpazKitty|Spaz Kitty]]<br /> <br /> :I think I know what happened - you uploaded it, but didn't force a refresh by going directly to the image file (not the image page) and pressing Ctrl+F5. Your computer still thought that the image was valid, as it had it cached, so it showed the uncensored version. It's often a problem for new wiki founders who add logos, as it looks like it's not changing, even though it is. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 22:23, 28 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Any ways, long story short, thanks for removing the pic and I hope I don't make the same mistake again, thank you. - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 22:38, 28 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> sorry, forget previous post, prolem fixed itself, sorry - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 17:32, 3 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == (sic) ==<br /> <br /> oh, my bad, man. i didn't know. thanks for telling me :) by the way, that article, [[Wolfie]], isn't about me. <br /> [[User:Wolfie|Wolfie]] 13:41, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Meep ==<br /> <br /> So, uh, I like, decided to add stuff cuz people I knew/knew of weren't on here, and uh.... seems they think I put too much D8<br /> <br /> I -was- careful to put only stuff I knew was publically visible, and I did add a bit more than I thought was needed, cuz I thought anyone concerned with privacy, like say other wiki contributors, would be like &quot;Hmm maybe you should delete that&quot; &lt;br /&gt;<br /> instead of suddenly &quot;OMG stalkers! everywhere! nuuuuu!&quot; o.o;<br /> This really upset me cuz they're people I interact with at least on occasion, and I value their opinion, so having them think I'm crazy(er)... &lt;br /&gt;<br /> I didn't tell anyone cuz I wanted a &quot;professional&quot; distance, if they knew I was doing it... well, &quot;the observer changes the observed&quot;.<br /> <br /> And honestly, I didnt -try- that hard, maybe an hour on each person... after all it's '''wiki''' and can be edited later...<br /> and I was mostly tryin to just sketch their persona since it's in their ART so much y'know ._.<br /> <br /> Anyway I explained myself some on [[Talk:Seel Dingo|Seel's talk page]], because I want to make everyone as happy as possible.<br /> <br /> PS- I'd be willing to have anything I do &quot;depersonalized&quot; but won't do it myself if it makes it look like I'm just covering my ass. Of course, yeah, it's a wiki and past changes can be viewed...<br /> <br /> --[[User:BennuTeomabar|BennuTeomabar]] 16:46, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Don't worry about it. I think the invididual involved is being a little out of line. Basically they're complaining because you reposted some information that was publically available. It seems to me that their worldview is that nobody should be allowed to talk about anybody else. We don't subscribe to that view here. :-) --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 16:55, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Wikifur news ==<br /> <br /> I couldn't figure out how to add a news item. :/ I thought the passing of [[Peter S. Beagle]]'s mother (Peter being the author of The Last Unicorn) might be of note to some furry fans. I just received word from Beagle's newsletter and it pointed to this page ... http://www.conlanpress.com/html/rebecca_beagle.html --[[User:Chibiabos|Chibiabos]]<br /> <br /> :To post a news item, you create the link to the template as you did (preferably in a preview first), then make the page that it links to, and add a link to that page to [[Template:Newsbar]] and the [[WikiFur:Community Central]] page.<br /> <br /> :However, I would have to say that I would not really agree with posting it as news on WikiFur. Wikipedia used to have the somewhat pithy phrase &quot;It's sad when people die, but Wikipedia is not the place to honor them,&quot; and I feel this is true for WikiFur as well. People (particularly the mothers and fathers of the older people in the fandom) die all the time.<br /> <br /> :While the death of a person already relevant to WikiFur just for being in the fandom is a fact that should go on the the page about them, it is not site news. Moreover, all previous news items have been directly related to WikiFur. If it had been someone of major relevance to the fandom I might have thought differently - say, [[Uncle Kage]], or ''maybe'', at a stretch, [[Grandma Kage]] (who is relevant enough to have a page, but not much of one yet). However, we don't even have an entry on Peter yet, let alone his mother. We're not a furry news aggregator, and this doesn't really seem to count as furry news as much as a personal loss. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 23:08, 27 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Multiple edits ==<br /> <br /> I really apologize for all the edits, I'm new to any sort of wiki, so I'm just trying to get it as perfect as possible XD --[[User:Nekonaru Letao|Nekonaru Letao]]<br /> <br /> :It's no real problem. Perfection is an admirable goal to have. :-) Oh, one more tip - you can sign your name on talk pages with &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~, or ~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt; to get the date as well. It helps people reading to see who said what! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 01:50, 29 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Minor Bug on Recent Changes page ==<br /> <br /> Howdy! I just noticed a small bug on the Recent Changes page. At the top of the page (at least according my my preferences), it reads:<br /> <br /> Below are the last 200 changes in the last 7 days, as of $3.<br /> <br /> I'm thinking that that &quot;$3&quot; is a variable that isn't being called correctly. It's obviously a minor thing, but something I thought might be a quick fix if you've got the permissions.----[[User:DuncanDaHusky|DuncanDaHusky]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:DuncanDaHusky|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 16:11, 29 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Yeah. It's been like that since we upgraded to 1.7 alpha. It's a known bug, but it was low priority for the Wikia guys. I'll have a chat with them and see if it's a quick fix. If not, it can be removed by editing [[MediaWiki:Rcnote]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 16:27, 29 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Can you help? ==<br /> <br /> On [[furluminati]], Spirou constantly vandalizes the article, but no matter what I put he reverts me back to his version (and he has not even corrected the grammar/spelling errors in it). I have tried and tried to please him, but I've seen his type and they just revert nonstop as they like--just like willy on wheels likes to move pages to &quot;on wheels&quot; and others like to blank pages, Spirou gets his vandalism high from reverting. I keep trying to please him, but obviously he is just out to cause trouble by revert vandalism. I have put hours and hours into fixing it up and he does not care. Spirou is not here to fix anything, he is just to harass me by reverting anything I do on the article, even fixing his grammar. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 02:37, 30 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I'm guessing GreenReaper is away right now. Have either of you heard of the [[Wikipedia:WP:3RR|three revert rule]] on Wikipedia? I think it can apply here on WikiFur too. I'll block for 24 hours if I see a violation of the three revert rule from either of you. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 03:10, 30 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Spirou will then just revert 3 times a day, but still vandalize. Also on wikipedia reverting vandalism doesn't count toward 3RR. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 03:22, 30 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I was away for a half-hour, but I am back right now. While the three revert rule is not a rule on WikiFur at this time, its rationale is sound. Page edits should not turn into revert wars. I am looking more carefully at the edits made to see what to suggest in this particular circumstance. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 03:14, 30 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Spirou isn't trying to edit, just revert. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 03:22, 30 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::I ''said'', I'm looking. Patience, please. :-) I would also suggest that you focus on the edits, rather than the person behind them. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 03:25, 30 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::His last edit was a revert again, but he changed some words and acted like it wasn't. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 03:28, 30 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> You locked the article on Spirou's version and he's the cause. :( [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 04:10, 30 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Page protection is used to prevent further edits while the situation is delt with. [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Protection policy#A temporary protection is used for:|It does not express]] a preference for the version that happens to be protected. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 04:16, 30 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == What was the killhamster article here? ==<br /> <br /> You said: &quot;I would note that the article about &quot;killhamster&quot;, whose article was used as a reference, was deleted, twice, for being totally full of nonsense added by himself and his friends.&quot;<br /> <br /> I referenced his livejournal and the edit dispute in the LJ was talking about on ED. Umm... did he make an article on wikifur? [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 09:06, 1 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Yes. It was at various times a duplicate of User:Killhamster on ED, and/or random nonsense. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 09:15, 1 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == *Waves.* ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for leaving me a note. I've meant to put the link to the Eurofurence LJ instead of the website, I guess I was distracted when I added &quot;Eurofurence&quot; to the list. :B Sorry.<br /> <br /> :No problem!<br /> <br /> I tried to reply to you using the &quot;send mail&quot; option, but apparently I have to get a confirmation code, and while I tried a couples of times, it never seems to reach me. It's not in my &quot;spam&quot; box either, so I was wondering if something was broken on Wikifur's side, or what should I do.<br /> <br /> :Not sure about that. It should come from jasonr@wikia.com, if that helps.<br /> <br /> ::Okay, I made a research in my mailbox AND spambox, and I've never received any e-mail from this addy. I don't know what's wrong, it just doesn't seem to send me anything when I ask for a confirmation code.<br /> <br /> Also, and this may sound like a very stupid question, but.. I was wondering how to create articles here? I've only found help to edit existing articles; reading the artists pages I noticed some less-well known artists as well, as if they or someone had created a page about them, but I'm not sure the admins themselves did, and I can't find how to start a page from scratch in the help pages. Is it a privilege-thing or did I miss the option or an help page somewhere? Is it related to the fact I haven't entered any confirmation code yet (see first issue in paragraph above)?<br /> <br /> :There are several ways that (I think they're on [[Help:Editing]]) - try to go to a page with the search box and click the red link when you don't find it, make a link in an existing page (or in a preview) and click on it, or just change the URL to the appropriate one and click '''edit this page'''. It is something anyone can do (even anonymous users) and is not related to email confirmation. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 17:12, 1 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Ooh okay, thanks for our help! by the way, do you see my signature when I reply (as in, my username and link to &quot;talk&quot; and such) or do I have to add it manually?<br /> <br /> :::No, you need to add it with &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~ (or ~~~ to just add the name)&lt;/nowiki&gt;. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 16:21, 3 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Person exclusion without current article ==<br /> <br /> Within the last few minutes I've had the misfortune of encountering a situation with which I've had no prior experience -- an unregistered user has removed a single name from the [[:Category:People/People to add]] page. I had reverted the change once and the same IP has made the change again. I've now left a message on their [[User talk:69.231.20.143|talk page]] about removing information without reason and a link to our personal information policy. I then reverted the change again. I think that the specificity of these edits might indicate that this IP is of the person concerned and I would greatly appreciate advice on how to procede if they should decide to edit the page again without providing more information to us. -- [[User:DeVandalizer|DeVandalizer]] 19:19, 1 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :In this specific case, I don't think there's a real problem with removing names on the People to add list. It actually saves time over us having to go through the process of excluding an article later (unless someone makes it via another link). There's not much &quot;information&quot; in just a name. :-)<br /> <br /> :In general, there's no need to tell people they're going to be banned for removing stuff in the first instance, except in very bad situations. [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Assume good faith|Assume good faith]] - chances are, they ''are'' that person, and are just not particularly interested in having an article. Be welcoming, and then you will probably get a better response from that person (and they will have a better impression of WikiFur, so we avoid situations like [http://thefoxes.livejournal.com/26151.html this]). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 20:49, 1 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Please see my response on my [[User talk:DeVandalizer]], I watch talk pages that I edit (no need to copy discussion) :) -- [[User:DeVandalizer|DeVandalizer]] 06:09, 2 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == New Featured Article ==<br /> I wouldn't mind taking over the duty of writing the summary for featured articles for this week. I looked for something to write about but I can't really find any consensus on the featured article candidates page. What articles would you suggest? -- [[User:DeVandalizer|DeVandalizer]] 05:37, 3 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I would suggest that you have a look at some of the [[Special:Longpages|long pages]] and see if there are any on there that have not been featured. Longness in and of itself is not a sign of greatness, but articles should have ''some'' length to be featured, so it's a good start. Once you think you've found a good choice, try to condense the gist of it down into three or four fairly short paragraphs, with appropriate links to other articles, and [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=WikiFur:This_week%27s_featured_article/Week_27%2C_2006&amp;action=edit replace the redirect with it]. Have a look at [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=WikiFur:This_week%27s_featured_article/Week_26%2C_2006&amp;action=edit last week's] examples of formatting and linking. And good luck! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 05:49, 3 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Code error, etc. ==<br /> <br /> Couple of things...One, on both the WikiFur homepage and your talk page, &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;clear:both&quot;/&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt; appears. Two, [[Talk:SCHLITZER]] is a leftover from the Crabs crabs crabs! x 50 vandal that previously redirected to my talk page - not sure if you saw that all the way back in recent changes (I've been boredly busy today XD). [[User:SpazKitty|Spaz Kitty]] 02:47, 4 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I've had a chat with the Wikia admins and this is a temporary error in the MediaWiki version that they are testing. I've replaced it with the equivalent (but working) &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;div style&quot;clear:both&quot;&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt; in those two places. If there are other pages affected, they should be fixed after the testing concludes. It looks like [[User:Sine|Sine]] got the other problem. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 03:38, 4 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Hello ==<br /> <br /> Hi GreenReaper, thanks forleaving a note on my talk page. [[User:Lilim|Lilim]] 04:41, 4 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thanks ==<br /> Thanks for helping me delete the left over pages from the recent vandalism. It's much appreciated :) -- [[User:DeVandalizer|DeVandalizer]] 23:16, 4 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Seemed like a similar pattern to last time. If it happens again I'll get the staff to do a checkuser to get their IP and see if we can do a range block. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 23:21, 4 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Sounds like a good plan. I saw the user page creation in recent changes and I had some inkling something was going to go down -- the pattern was far too similar. -- [[User:DeVandalizer|DeVandalizer]] 23:28, 4 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Google Analytics Stats ==<br /> <br /> Any chance you could sign me up to access wikifur's stats on google analytics? -- [[User:DeVandalizer|DeVandalizer]] 00:00, 5 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Sure, if you tell me your GMail or Google Account address, either here or [[Special:Emailuser/GreenReaper|privately]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 00:02, 5 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::No problem, my gmail account is devandalizer@gmail.com -- [[User:DeVandalizer|DeVandalizer]] 00:06, 5 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Done. You may access the statistics [https://www.google.com/analytics/home/report?rid=52980 here]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 00:10, 5 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::I am in. Thank you. -- [[User:DeVandalizer|DeVandalizer]] 00:14, 5 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Categorization ==<br /> <br /> I'm curious - why remove the [[:Category:Werewolf characters]] from the article about you? We generally apply it to articles about people whose fursonas are the appropriate &quot;species&quot;, although not if there is a separate article about the character under a different name. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 08:06, 15 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I don't feel that the term &quot;Character&quot; applies really. It insinuates that my werewolf side is a fabrication, whereas that is how I see myself spiritually and have done for a very long time.<br /> <br /> :The only characters I have are Thalyi and Boswell, they have always been pure fabrications and are the only ones I &quot;play&quot;. Simply put, I am Graafen.<br /> <br /> :I hope this isn't too confusing. If it's needed then I will replace the category.<br /> <br /> :[[User:Graafen Blackpaw|Graafen Blackpaw]] 15:37, 5 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Fair enough. We tend not to try and force categories on people that they feel are inappropriate, unless there's a good reason for believing otherwise. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 15:47, 5 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::By the way, could you remove my article? I've moved all the info to my User page instead. The only reason it was there as an article anyway was a mistake. XD -- [[User:Graafen Blackpaw|Graafen Blackpaw]] 15:55, 5 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::I'm confused - it's an article about you, isn't it? It seems to be written neutrally in the third person. That would suggest that it '''should''' be at [[Graafen Blackpaw]], not [[User:Graafen Blackpaw]]. You can see the difference at [[GreenReaper]] and [[User:GreenReaper]] - the first page is the one about me, while the second is the one ''from'' me. That is also why the &lt;nowiki&gt;{{Contributor}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; tag has a link to your user page, because it's meant to be used in the main namespace (it is bold currently because you're already on that page).<br /> <br /> ::::When moving articles you should also use the Move tab, so that it preserves the history of article edits. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 16:09, 5 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::I think I'm the more confused, but I get what you mean now. I've put everything back as it was. Dumb moment. -- [[User:Graafen Blackpaw|Graafen Blackpaw]] 16:22, 5 July 2006 (UTC)</div>

Graafen Blackpaw //en.wikifur.com/wiki/User_talk:Graafen_Blackpaw 2006-07-05T16:21:19Z

<p>Graafen Blackpaw: /* Categorization */</p> <hr /> <div>Hi there, Graafen, and welcome to WikiFur! Thanks for telling us a bit about yourself. [[User talk:GreenReaper|Let me know]] if you need any [[help]] not already provided. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 15:10, 9 Dec 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Hey ThalyiFace! ;) Welcome to da wiki! --[[User:Nidonocu|Nidonocu]] - [[User talk:Nidonocu|talk]] [[Image:Trans 168.png|16px|Nidonocu]] 10:57, 15 Dec 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Categorization ==<br /> <br /> I'm curious - why remove the [[:Category:Werewolf characters]] from the article about you? We generally apply it to articles about people whose fursonas are the appropriate &quot;species&quot;, although not if there is a separate article about the character under a different name. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 08:06, 15 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I don't feel that the term &quot;Character&quot; applies really. It insinuates that my werewolf side is a fabrication, whereas that is how I see myself spiritually and have done for a very long time.<br /> <br /> :The only characters I have are Thalyi and Boswell, they have always been pure fabrications and are the only ones I &quot;play&quot;. Simply put, I am Graafen.<br /> <br /> :I hope this isn't too confusing.<br /> <br /> :[[User:Graafen Blackpaw|Graafen Blackpaw]] 15:33, 5 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Fair enough. We tend not to try and force categories on people that they feel are inappropriate, unless there's a good reason for believing otherwise. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 15:47, 5 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::By the way, could you remove my article? I've moved all the info to my User page instead. The only reason it was there as an article anyway was a mistake. XD -- [[User:Graafen Blackpaw|Graafen Blackpaw]] 15:52, 5 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::I'm confused - it's an article about you, isn't it? It seems to be written neutrally in the third person. That would suggest that it '''should''' be at [[Graafen Blackpaw]], not [[User:Graafen Blackpaw]]. You can see the difference at [[GreenReaper]] and [[User:GreenReaper]] - the first page is the one about me, while the second is the one ''from'' me. That is also why the &lt;nowiki&gt;{{Contributor}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; tag has a link to your user page, because it's meant to be used in the main namespace (it is bold currently because you're already on that page).<br /> <br /> ::::When moving articles you should also use the Move tab, so that it preserves the history of article edits. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 16:10, 5 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::I think I'm the more confused, but I get what you mean now. I've put everything back as it was. -- [[User:Graafen Blackpaw|Graafen Blackpaw]] 16:21, 5 July 2006 (UTC)</div>

Graafen Blackpaw //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Graafen_Blackpaw 2006-07-05T16:20:03Z

<p>Graafen Blackpaw: </p> <hr /> <div>[[Image:Graafen_001sized.jpg|thumb|right|Graafen Blackpaw by [[Kaijima A. Frostfang]]]]<br /> <br /> '''Graafen Blackpaw''' is a [[werewolf]] and member of the Blackpaw pack. Born in 1983, he has lived in [[Wikipedia:Yorkshire|Yorkshire]] for his entire life and currently lives in [[Wikipedia:Wakefield|Wakefield]], [[Wikipedia:West Yorkshire|West Yorkshire]], [[Wikipedia:United Kingdom|United Kingdom]], working for a large IT company as a Customer Support Technician. He plans to move to [[Wikipedia:America|America]] at some point in the future but is unsure of when.<br /> <br /> Graafen has also been known as '''Thalyi E. Wolfe''' since 2000.<br /> <br /> == Fursuits ==<br /> <br /> Graafen is an avid [[fursuit]]er. He currently owns two fursuits: ''Thalyi'' and ''Boswell''.<br /> <br /> '''Thalyi''' debuted at [[Further Confusion 2005]]. Created by [[Jax The Purple Bat]] from Graafen's online character, Thalyi is a hybrid of Wolf and domestic Cat which gives him a pronounced cleft lip and a long wolf tail.<br /> <br /> '''Boswell''' debuted at [[Further Confusion 2006]]. Created by [[Noble A. Wolf]], Boswell is a black and purple furred 'gothic' skunk.<br /> <br /> Graafen's next fursuit is a werewolf suit, created by [http://www.runningwolfpack.com Running Wolf Productions] and is due to debute on [[Wikipedia:Halloween|Halloween]] 2006.<br /> <br /> {{person-stub}}<br /> <br /> == External links ==<br /> {{Contributor|Graafen Blackpaw}}<br /> * ''[http://graafen.livejournal.com/ Tails of a closet Werewolf]'' - Graafen Blackpaw's [[LiveJournal]]<br /> * [http://www.werewolf-inside.com/ Werewolf-Inside] - Graafen's personal website.<br /> * [http://www.werewolf-inside.com/gallery/ Werewolf-Inside Gallery]<br /> <br /> [[Category:People]][[Category:Fursuiters]]<br /> [[Category:United Kingdom]]<br /> [[Category:1983 births]]</div>

Graafen Blackpaw //en.wikifur.com/wiki/User:Graafen_Blackpaw 2006-07-05T16:19:38Z

<p>Graafen Blackpaw: </p> <hr /> <div>{{ContributorU|Graafen Blackpaw}}</div>

Graafen Blackpaw //en.wikifur.com/wiki/User_talk:GreenReaper 2006-07-05T15:55:09Z

<p>Graafen Blackpaw: /* Categorization */</p> <hr /> <div>&lt;!-- You probably want to add stuff at the bottom of this page --&gt;<br /> {{User talk:GreenReaper/Header}}<br /> == Hi you ... ==<br /> Thanks for your welcome!<br /> I only joined 'cause somebody made a wiki page about me ... and in some kind it was wrong. x_x;<br /> So that's all.<br /> <br /> --[[User:Meeko|Meeko]] 01:40, 25 Mai 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Hi, GreenReaper ==<br /> <br /> This is partly a test to see if I've got this editor figured out before I do anything important with it. I notice someone put in an entry for yours truly (in fact that's how I wandered in - I was checking old Other Suns links which led to Nicolai's entry which led to mine) which I may update later; at least I suppose the fact that I was Den Mother of ConFurence for years and am now holding that position in CaliFur is at interesting as anything already there. Also an excuse for putting in a few Ursa Major links inasmuch as I maintain the Recommended List.<br /> <br /> Speaking of which, I got your note suggesting the addition of WikiFur to the Recommended Anthropomorphics list for this year - makes sense, though I'll have to discuss where to put it with the rest of the committee. We're currently counting nominations for this year's Ursa Major ballot.<br /> --[[User:Yealurowluro|Yealurowluro]] 00:58, 6 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Glad you got my note! I wasn't entirely sure if I should suggest it myself, but I figured it's something that's worth reading. :-) <br /> <br /> :It looks like you have the wiki editing figured out. Please do contribute to any articles you find lacking, and good luck figuring out those nominations. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 21:04, 5 April 2006 (PDT)<br /> <br /> == Moving assistance. ==<br /> <br /> Hey GreenReaper,<br /> <br /> Thanks for the help moving the page for my listing. I was woundering if it should have been moved over as you did, but didn't have time IRL to send a message. The dire warning kinda steared me off. (I figured I would mess around with my own page before messing up some one elses =)<br /> <br /> :No problem! A lot of people start off in the User: namespace, as that's where you would normally do it on (e.g.) Wikipedia. <br /> <br /> Let me know if I'm misplacing anyother articles so we can keep the database as consistant as possable! (Or if you have any other suggestions)<br /> <br /> :I'm sure I or another contributor will let you know should that be the case. :-)<br /> <br /> I hope the format of the post is accaptable. I wrote the thing in third person as if I was writing about someone else. Thanks again - PG<br /> <br /> :That was fine. Feel free to edit your User: page if you want to say something from first-person persepective in addition to that which is already there (but don't feel you have to - most people are just fine with what's on the page about them already). --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 03:02, 7 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thanks ==<br /> <br /> Thank you for the kind welcome. Though I've been active on Wikipedia forever (and I'm admin there), I've only just discovered wikifur today. I'm happy to help out in any area that needs it, and I've already added stubs for [[Wild Life]] and [[Wildlifers]]! [[User:Starblind|Andrew Lenahan]] - &lt;b&gt;&lt;FONT COLOR=&quot;#FF0000&quot;&gt;St&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT COLOR=&quot;#FF5500&quot;&gt;ar&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT COLOR=&quot;#FF8000&quot;&gt;bli&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT COLOR=&quot;#FFC000&quot;&gt;nd&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/b&gt; 15:43, 7 April 2006 (PDT)<br /> <br /> :Excellent . . . *scoops up some cover pics for those* --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 23:27, 7 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==View counts==<br /> I've noticed that the view counts in [[:Special:Popularpages]] have not updated at least since last Thursday on several articles I've been following, even though I've viewed some of those articles myself during that time. I've verified this from two different computers and used a couple of other tricks to make reasonably certain it's not a browser cache issue. What gives?<br /> <br /> Edit: There are also several hundred articles that currently show 0 views.<br /> --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 14:23, 10 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Yes. I had a chat with the admins and apparently they had to discontinue popular pages updating due to server loads. We can get the same sort of information from the google analytics stats, so it's no ''great'' loss, although it is a pity that people can't access that without talking to me first.<br /> <br /> :As this makes the page rather useless, I've removed the link in the main page header and added in links to the article and user talk pages instead. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 16:29, 10 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Re my WikiFur entry ==<br /> <br /> Just noticed that you had stuck in an unwritten link from the Kay Shapero entry for the Anthropomorphic Literature and Arts Association. I had deliberately NOT put a link there, because the ALAA exists to produce the Recommended List and present the Ursa Major awards, both of which have links right after the reference. So I figured it would be superfluous. What do you think? I could probably write an entry, but it'd only be a couple of lines long and probably wouldn't contain much you can't find out from the other two links. --[[User:Yealurowluro|Yealurowluro]]<br /> <br /> :(I'm not GR, but we never have a shortage of opinions around here! :-) Actually, even the small amount of information you mention would be useful, if only to define the parametes of the organization and to show that it is independent of any other organization out there (when I first saw mention of ALAA, I erroneously conflated it with [[AAE]], which is a different beastie entirely). ----[[User:DuncanDaHusky|DuncanDaHusky]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:DuncanDaHusky|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 00:28, 11 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :That's basically why I put it in there (also because I rememebered it was linked in [[Ursa Major Awards]]). If you really don't think it should have an entry, take it out, but as Duncan mentions, [[Anthropomorphic Arts and Education]] seems to do well enough. It's a short page, but it gives a link to the organization, and as it is a separate page it can be put into [[:Category:Organizations]] which helps us keep a tab on all such organizations. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 03:19, 11 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==To Stub or Not to Stub?==<br /> Is there a guideline as to when a short article (which just doesn't have much to say) doesn't need to be tagged as a stub? 1000 bytes, etc.? Wouldn't stop anyone from dropping in to make changes anyway. Just curious. --[[User:Frizzy|Frizzy]] 23:11, 14 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I usually go by the rule of whether I feel there's anything that ought to be added (but that I'm not sure about or don't know or don't feel like putting in right now). -- [[User:Siege|Siege]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:Siege|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 05:02, 15 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The general rule is &quot;if there is probably something that could be added fairly easily by someone who doesn't know much about the topic&quot; (say with a few minutes of google searching) then it is a stub. If not, then it is not a stub, although if you can describe it entirely in a couple of lines, it is probably a strong candidate for merging with another article. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 08:04, 15 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Categorization?==<br /> Thanks for the quick feedback! I was looking through WikiFur's [[:Help:Furry_Book_of_Style|style guide]] and had another question: Are there any guidelines on category order at the end of articles? I was going through alphabetically, but it might be helpful to define this in the style guide if there's a prefered order to doing this. --[[User:Frizzy|Frizzy]] 19:10, 16 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Technically any order is fine. In practice, for articles about people I've tended to do People and then subcategories of People (note that we only do this category + subcategory thing with people so as to get a full listing in that category), and then their location and year of birth/death. In general I would put the most important or relevant category first, but that's just a personal style. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 20:44, 16 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::What you describe is what I've been doing, GreenReaper. I described it in some detail over at [[:Category_talk:Root]]. -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 21:37, 16 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Requesting page protection ==<br /> <br /> How do I go about requesting my page to be locked so that only myself and administrators can edit it? --[[Banrai|Banrai]]<br /> <br /> :You just did. I'm at work right now so I can't really look that closely to ensure it's appropriate, but I will later this evening.<br /> <br /> :Be aware that &quot;your page&quot; is [[User:Banrai]]. [[Banrai]] is &quot;the page about you&quot;. As such it is expected to be reasonably complete, and I do find it odd that there is no mention or reference to the actions mentioned in a certain LiveJournal entry that comes up when searching for your name. What's past is past, and it is important not to dwell on it, but it does deserve recording so that people understand how things ended up as they are today (and so we don't get complaints on the talk page from people who think things are being hidden). I will try and see about that tonight as well. I'm not a concerned party other than ensuring the accuracy of the article, and I don't particularly want to raise any drama about it, so fear not - it'll be brief.<br /> <br /> :Oh, and just something I noticed glancing over the page - you only need to link to other articles the ''first'' time a linkable name comes up, not every time. It's assumed that people will already have clicked on the link if they want to go to it. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 15:04, 19 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I added a small blurb about... that. But feel free to edit it as you see fit. It's a very personal preferance that the article itself not actually be linked, since it IS over and done, but.. yeah, you're the mod. I also went back in and fixed the massive-linking, so it looks a little cleaner now. ;3 --[[User:Banrai|Banrai]]<br /> <br /> :::I've not linked it. Instead, I spent a while reading various sources, then tried to give a summary of your actions, the context behind them - part of which was already evident in previous sections - and the response from others, without turning it into a duplicate of that post (or another [[Sibe]]). I think it says all that needs to be said about that without taking up too much of the article. If people really want to know more, I'm sure they can find out for themselves - but I suspect for most it is enough that they will not feel the need to do so.<br /> <br /> :::As for your request, the article seems a good one as it stands. I will post a notice on the talk page, and unless there is significant dissent from the WikiFur community I will enable the page protection within a day or so. If at a later point you decide that you no longer want the page protected then any admin can help you remove it at request. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 06:35, 20 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Repeated vandalism and blocking ==<br /> <br /> I've just blocked an IP for what I now see is repeated vandalism. ([http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special:Log&amp;type=block&amp;page=User:70.180.173.165 Three incidents so far].)<br /> Do we have an understood point where we block for longer periods, or infinitely? -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 03:20, 21 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I would say go up by one category per repeated offense - hours, days, weeks, months, years (or forever). If all they do is vandalism feel free to skip a step. We're not Wikipedia, we've not really got time to deal with trouble again and again. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 03:32, 21 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Vandal IPs found<br /> <br /> 69.210.142.84 and<br /> 68.202.53.196<br /> They were found posting images of the vandalism in /b/<br /> <br /> == Questions about Des Lee? ==<br /> <br /> Hey there! Thought I'd drop a line and see if I could answer any questions you might have about Desiree. I set up a basic entry for her awhile ago, but I'd noticed you had a question or two concerning her on my page. Anyway, if I can be of assistance, let me know! Thanks!<br /> <br /> :Note [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Jim_Hardiman&amp;curid=3935&amp;diff=53558&amp;oldid=50672 my recent edit] and comment on the [[Talk:Jim Hardiman|talk page]], but I'll carry over here and say that I think the question was about those quote-marks around &quot;friend&quot;. -- [[User:Siege|Siege]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:Siege|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 20:30, 22 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Yep, replied on the talk page. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 21:24, 22 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Edit patrols ==<br /> <br /> It's about this time that I think bringing back the &quot;patrol this edit&quot; marker may be a good idea. It just has to be explained clearly: &quot;These markers are for admin to make rounds of patrols through the various edits,&quot; and so forth. I'd also like to suggest a proxy banlist which is shared across Wikia. That way, once a proxy is confirmed, all wikis have the option of automatically banning it. -- [[User:Siege|Siege]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:Siege|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 06:24, 26 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I would support the creation of a shared proxy banlist with all of Wikia. Is there a feature for this currently in mediawiki or would it have to be added through some sort of module? -- [[User:DeVandalizer|DeVandalizer]] 06:33, 26 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :This might be a good idea. We are getting a lot of edits - certainly more than I manage to have the time to look at, let alone edit. We can probably try enabling it for a time.<br /> <br /> :I think there is actually a proxy blacklist. We may be using a service, in which case it probably doesn't get everything. JasonR on the live chat would be the perosn to talk to about that (or he's available via technical at wikia dot com, or the wikia-l mailing list, or the wikia LiveJournal). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 08:12, 26 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thanks for the Welcome! ==<br /> <br /> I was figuring it would come at some point or another. Very much appreciated. :) [[User:Bastique|Bastique]] 13:00, 27 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Database error on page move ==<br /> <br /> I was attempting to move [[Art Show]] over its redirect [[Art show]] (note the caps - one is the name of a show, the other is a type), and I received this error:<br /> <br /> :A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was: <br /> ::&lt;tt&gt;UPDATE `wikicities`.`gpage` SET page_namespace = '0',page_title = 'Art_show' WHERE page_namespace = '0' AND page_title = 'Art_Show'&lt;/tt&gt;<br /> :from within function &quot;&lt;tt&gt;Database::update&lt;/tt&gt;&quot;. MySQL returned error &quot;&lt;tt&gt;1062: Duplicate entry 'furry-0-Art_show' for key 2 (paris.wikia.com)&lt;/tt&gt;&quot;.<br /> <br /> Would you mind passing this on to the Wikia folks? Looks like the parser is missing the routine which checks for a page/redirect/whatever under the name being moved to. Thanks. -- [[User:Siege|Siege]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:Siege|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 10:13, 28 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Hi Back. ==<br /> <br /> This is a bit awkward, but I think this is the right way to do it. I'm looking over a variety of articles to see what I can add to. I lengthened Ken Fletcher's piece a little -- he deserves more, but it's hard to do him justice, even knowing him fairly well. (Ken is modest to the point of humility.) Kevin Duane's piece broke me up. I could add 10,000 words, but wouldn't know where to start. And do I want to make him out a clown, a villain, a well-intentioned schlemiel, or just a guy who got a lot of bad breaks? Then there was Steve Martin. Another perplexing case. I had to add a bit more detail to the &quot;controversy&quot; section, that put the customs debacle in a somewhat better light.<br /> <br /> Ah... I wonder what other delights await? --[[User:Taral Wayne|Taral Wayne]]<br /> <br /> :It can be hard. Pages [[Sibe|can and have]] been written about [[Banrai#Past disputes|past disputes]], but in the end the actual situation can usually be boiled down to just a few paragraphs written in a fairly dry tone. If in doubt, just add the facts, and try to make sure you don't leave out any facts in a way that could be viewed as biased by not giving reasonable coverage of all sides of the story. If you think you're up to writing a more lengthy piece, and you think it is appropriate for the article concerned, [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Be bold in updating pages|be bold]] and do so. Wikipedia has [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Neutrality|lots of advice]] on how to go about this.<br /> <br /> :Whatever you do decide to add, thank you for taking the time to do so. WikiFur relies on the contributions of those who know the full history of events, and in many cases there are only a few people in the world who do. Hopefully this project will go some way towards ensuring that the history of the fandom doesn't fade away, as I think that would be a shame.<br /> <br /> :Oh, and note that you can sign comments on talk pages with &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~, or just ~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt; if you want to do it without the date. There's no need to do so on the main article pages, as they're intended to be community work anyway (and a full history of contributions is kept in the history tab if it's required). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 10:02, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I think I'll just leave the Kevin Duane item as it is. While there's a hundred times more, it isn't really that important, and what's there is probably impartial enough. Though I doubt very much Kevin would own up to much on the negative side of the ledger.<br /> <br /> ::By the way, what would keep him from editing out everything he didn't like, and painting a glowing picture of himself?<br /> <br /> :::Nothing. However, he'd probably find such edits mysteriously changed back a few minutes later. Some people around here tend to watch [[Special:Recentchanges|recent changes]] like a hawk and can very quickly pick up on editors who are trying to modify history, especially their own. There are [[WikiFur:Personal information|established procedures]] for requesting the removal of certain items of personal information. Blanking or removing information without comment do not count, and won't have the desired effect. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 10:20, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Hello ==<br /> <br /> Hi, thanks for the welcome! I just have to say that I'm very impressed by the speed at which the articles are updated :)<br /> <br /> --[[User:MrZebra|MrZebra]] 10:16, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Glad you like it! We aim to please. ;-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 10:20, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thanks for the assistance ==<br /> <br /> Thank you for loading a higher-resolution picture for me. I appreciate that. And thanks for the welcome as well. :)<br /> <br /> --[[Equestrian]]<br /> <br /> == Asking your permission ==<br /> <br /> Would it be okay with you to upload [http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/Image:Taxidermy.gif this image] to wikifur? It is an animated gif of scenes from the CSI furry episode. It's 1.8MB so I'm obviously not going to risk spending the long time uploading it if it gets deleted and I'm hoping somebody else will do it. If that is not acceptable, would a link to it in the CSI article be allowed? There's no pressure if you don't agree with these. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 05:43, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I probably wouldn't delete it. It is not the best pictoral representation of the whole show, though. The animation tells a story, but it is not the whole story about the show, just as the show does not tell the whole story about the fandom. Its [http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/Taxidermy purpose on ED] was to promote [[fursecution]] (to whit, the conversion of furries into trophies and rugs) and the selection of passages in the animation is limited to those supporting that argument. I believe that a small selection of screen captures from various points in the show added by use of the &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;gallery&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt; tag (see [[The Forest]] for an example) might be a better addition to the article.<br /> <br /> :Another thing to consider - if it takes you a long time to upload it, it will take a long time for many of our contributors to download it as well. 2Mb pages are not really a good idea. This suggests that a link to the animation would be more appropriate, with a note of the file size for those on modems. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 07:54, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::About size, I see so many websites designed where the only way you can view them is flash. I don't know what the deal with that. The real size getter is YTMNDs where each one is huge and often a copy of several other ones with just a tiny change. You know you're actually a pretty cool person (and probably same for others here) compared to the wikipedia furry community where any mention of furries that isn't in their &quot;furries never yiff, or dress in custumes more than bunny ears, and all furries are heterosexual, and there are the same number of male and female furries&quot; propoganda means a witchhunt and I think it's one of the reasons why encyclopedia dramatica has all the anti-furry stuff--and the site says somewhere it's the denial of some furry aspects that get them made fun of----that can be compared to how the site doesn't make fun of star wars / star trek nerds with more than a small amount. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 10:51, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Flash is not the most ideal system for web user interfaces (although it does have enviable compatability compared to things like JavaScript). I won't go so far as to say that Flash has no place. It is a good system for the delivery of multimedia content. We tend to link to that rather than host it, though. :-)<br /> <br /> :::It is true that people are sometimes overly defensive. However, at the same time, some have good reason - there [http://forums.hatersonline.com/viewtopic.php?t=164 really are] &quot;furry haters&quot; for which it is a hobby to just go out there and spread the message that furries suck. Most of them don't actually ''know'' anything about the fandom, participate in any of the events, or contribute anything - they're just having fun putting other people down. I'm more than willing to accept criticism from people like [[Nothingkat]], who at least knows what he's talking about. And . . . well, I've not heard people make the above assertions before. I'm sure a lot of people say &quot;not all furries yiff, not all dress up in fursuits, not all are gay and furries are not all male&quot;, but there's a big difference between that and utter denial.<br /> <br /> :::As for Wikipedia, you have to remember that the purpose of their project (as ours) is to '''make an encyclopedia''', ''not'' to make fun of people. The [[Wikipedia:furry fandom|furry fandom]] article already has five whole paragraphs on sexual activities. I think that gives readers a fairly good idea of the extent of sexual content in the fandom. When you get [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Furry_lifestyler&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=51228054 edits] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Furry_Wikipedians&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=51070460 like] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Furry_fandom&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=50860121 these], it is very easy to see why a lot of them get reverted.<br /> <br /> :::ED would have furry stuff on it regardless, I am sure. After all, we already own [[LiveJournal]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 01:32, 6 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Thanks!==<br /> Thank you for your barnstar award, I appreciate your recognition. I have found in recent weeks just how difficult it is to start a Wika, and it's always nice to have someone appreciate the work. While I still need to read up on the goals and concept of this Wiki, I'm a big comic book fan and can hopefully help with some new content. You can contact me at my [http://oc.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Xtreme680 talk page] at [http://oc.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page The O.C. Wikia]. - [[User:Xtreme680|Xtreme680]] 09:33, 6 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==My page got vandalized...==<br /> Apparently it happened today even, suprisinly. Some user going by the name of Clambake....*sigh*. And it has to be somebody with access to aby.com or yiffstar.com, because that's the ONLY place I've posted the picture used with even a slight bit of public access. --[[User:lucashoal|lucashoal]] 3:40 PM, May 9 2006 (EST)<br /> :I will say that the staff already reverted the edits made to your page. The image, though I have not seen it, was already deleted. ----[[User:Markus|Markus]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:Markus|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 23:41, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Indeed. [[User:DuncanDaHusky|Duncan]] was pretty quick on the ball!<br /> <br /> ::I find it odd that you were able to revert their work so quickly - according to [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Luca_Shoal&amp;curid=651&amp;action=history the history], just four minutes passed between the picture being uploaded and your reversion. How did you know that they had posted the picture there? --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 00:23, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I just decided to log in today to see if anyone had left me a note, or made any changes to my page. And seeing the picture, well... It was a matter of luck really. I know it seems....fishy, but I honestly had no way at all of knowing this edit had taken place.<br /> :::As for the picture? It was a picture of me, not just Luca, but me in the real world. Specifically, it was one taken at a babyfur party, and in a pink dress.<br /> :::Thank you though for everything ^^. [[User:Lucashoal|Lucashoal]] 9:03 PM, May 9 2006 (EST)<br /> <br /> ::::'''*grins*''' - well, you were fortunate, then. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 05:04, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Interesting article on this whole problem in [http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/17/technology/17wiki.html The New York Times] (Growing Wikipedia Revises Its 'Anyone Can Edit' Policy) -- although the article is about &quot;big&quot; Wikipedia the principles and concerns probably still apply. --[[User:Auliya|Auliya]]<br /> <br /> :Yes. We have the same features here, and have used them, though they too affect only a small proportion of our pages. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 15:46, 19 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Transformation ==<br /> <br /> I'm reasonably sure that [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Transformation&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=57531 this] is actually correct, if badly formatted and perhaps not completely relevant to this wiki. See [http://metamedia.stanford.edu/traumwerk/index.php/More%20Dragons%20in%20Northumbria here] for the rhyme. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 18:45, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I did get a indeed get a positive hit for the rhyme, but Google turned up nothing relevant for Lanelet, Elidia, Zaikhoeven, or &quot;Duncan Frasier&quot; and &quot;Robert Lambe&quot;. I tried several different spelling variants and still came up with nothing. Now, I'm willing to grant that Google is not actually the sum of ''all'' knowledge, but the lack of hits and the near-unreadability of the edit makes me suspicious. ----[[User:DuncanDaHusky|DuncanDaHusky]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:DuncanDaHusky|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 18:55, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Duncan Frasier is cited as the author of the rhyme in the above link. Robert Lambe is likely to be [http://www.exploreberwick.co.uk/ArtsInBerwick/Legends/3_03.htm this guy].<br /> <br /> ::There does seem to be some confusion in online sources about who wrote the item and when it was written. Don't suppose you know any medieval historians? :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 19:10, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I've done some further research and I think I see the problem: it's written in the arcane and byzantine languange of ''academese'', a language I'm afraid I lost my fluency in years ago (and besides, I only ever spoke technical academese - I think it relates to Liberal Arts academese like Classical Latin to Vulgate Latin :-) I'll warrant that it was a valid edit, but written so impenetrably I would question its value. I've found a couple of useful links that might help; I'll probably poke at it a bit more tonight.----[[User:DuncanDaHusky|DuncanDaHusky]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:DuncanDaHusky|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 19:17, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : 1. I am able to translate this. It's pretty much just a load of academic-paper-filling bull, and says very little of relevancy to our wiki.<br /> : 2. Here, lemme take a whack at rebuilding that section.<br /> : -- [[User:Siege|Siege]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:Siege|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 23:32, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thank you ==<br /> <br /> Thank you for fixing my first upload :D I just joined and I'm still trying to get used to it all. I hope I atleast put THIS post in the correct place.<br /> <br /> :'''*grins*''' - yep, you just need to sign it! You can use &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt; to do that (or &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt; if you don't want to put the date). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 05:16, 13 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Howloween Template ==<br /> <br /> Are there any plans to create a Howloween convention template? Howloween is a convention held in British Columbia, during Late October : [http://www.howloween.org Howloween 2006 Website]<br /> <br /> :If you want one, just copy the contents of any existing convention templates to [[Template:User Howloween]] and change accordingly, then create the appropriate category and make it a subcategory of [[:Category:Wikifurries]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 00:36, 15 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Thank you so much. I shall try that. ^_^ --{{UT|Seamora}}<br /> <br /> == Terms with Multiple Definitions ==<br /> <br /> What is commonly done with terms that have more than one definition? Do they have separate pages, and if so , how does one do this?--{{UT|Seamora}}<br /> <br /> :Short answer - it depends! Long answer follows . . .<br /> <br /> :If the terms are related, but with differing nuances, then you might discuss them on the same page. For example, [[yiff]] has many meanings, but they are all related to a reasonably close degree, so they are all described on the same page. In general, you can tell &quot;reasonably close&quot; by the categories - if separate meanings would all fall under the same category then you would probably discuss them together (except people, who always have different articles).<br /> <br /> :Some terms have numerous unrelated meanings. In this case we divide it into separate pages with a qualifier in lowercase [unless a proper name] and inside parenthesis, and then create what is called a [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Disambiguation|disambiguation page]] for people who link to the term without parentheses. The page should have the &lt;tt&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;{{disambig}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/tt&gt; tag at the bottom. If another topic has the name within it, and a shorterned form might conflict, it is given the full title but also included in the disambiguation page.<br /> <br /> :You can see this at [[The Bestiary]], which links to [[The Bestiary (playing cards)]] and [[The Bestiary (comic)]] (which we know exists, just hasn't yet been written about) but also to ''[[The Bestiary's Terrie Smith Does Art Special]]''.<br /> <br /> :We may also make an indented, italic link at the top of the pages if there is possible confusion or the other article is somehow relevant, something like this (for a person called &quot;Delight&quot;):<br /> <br /> :&lt;tt&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;&quot;:''This article is about the [[:Category:People|person]]. For the chocolate bar, see &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Delight (chocolate bar)]].''&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/tt&gt; (or: &lt;tt&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;&quot;There is also a [[Delight (chocolate)|chocolate bar called Delight]].&quot;)&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/tt&gt;<br /> <br /> :In the case where one thing is clearly the more usual or &quot;official&quot; term, but there is another term that should have a different article, like [[skunk]] or [[Eurofurence]], then the general term is used without parentheses and the other term(s) have parentheses or are otherwise made different. We use the above method to link between them.<br /> <br /> :In rare cases, it may also be appropriate to add a parentheses even if there is currently no article at the non-parentheses term. This is done where there might be confusion about what the article should be about. For example, ''[[Furre!]]'' has links to [[Persona Play (Furre!)]] and [[Roleplay (Furre!)]]. This is because the term Roleplay has a special meaning in the context of ''Furre!'', and so it should not link to the main [[role-playing]] article, which has a redirect from Roleplay. For consistency, Persona Play has the same qualifier, even though there is not likely to be another article called Persona Play as it is at term that is specific to Furcadia/Furre!.<br /> <br /> :Deciding what to do in a particular case is sometimes tricky, but it is usually simple once you have done it a few times. Hope the above helps! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 08:41, 15 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thank you! ==<br /> <br /> Heya GreenReaper!! <br /> <br /> The page looks great, hun! Thanks for editing it a bit for me! There are also more WikiFur pages about me including Xelaros and Spirit Creations. I see that you guys don't have a page up for Maned Wolves which I would like to create. Thanks for your help! Give me suggestions any time!<br /> <br /> Inali Ke'aloha<br /> <br /> == Maned wolf page up! ==<br /> <br /> Heya, just wanted to let you know that I created a page about maned wolves since there wasn't one. It could use some editing, such as a contents box and the pictures off to the side. Thanks! --[[User:InaliKealoha|Inali]]<br /> <br /> :Well, it looks like you figured all that out! I moved it to [[Maned Wolf]] because it is a proper name of a species. The contents box will automatically appear if you have four headers in the article. If you do not (or to move it), you can make it appear by adding &lt;nowiki&gt;__TOC__&lt;/nowiki&gt; wherever you want. I sometimes put this inside a div tag that is set to float to the right. You can also hide it with &lt;nowiki&gt;__NOTOC__&lt;/nowiki&gt;.<br /> <br /> :One question ''I'' have, though - do you have permission from the people who made those pictures to put them on this site? While I appreciate that you wish to improve the articles, it is not enough to just state who owns the copyright of an image - if you do not have explicit permission (either by having asked them or through a blanket license or copyright wavier), we cannot display the images. That's what copyright means, after all . . . the right to make copies. Both the [http://www.arkgallery.org/ Ark Gallery] and Kenneth W. Fink/Root Resources sources appear to be non-free in this respect (indeed, the Ark Gallery seems to have a specific note at the bottom saying that images are not for reproduction elsewhere).<br /> <br /> :Oh, and one last thing - on talk pages, it's easier to know who's talking if you sign your name at the end. You can do this by typing &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt;, or just &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt; to do so without adding the date and time. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 03:13, 16 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I will email them and ask permission. If I can't get it from them, I'll ask some others until I get written permission. Where do I post that I have written permission when I get it? Thanks!<br /> <br /> [[User:InaliKealoha|InaliKealoha]] 05:22, 16 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :You should put the permission on the image information page, the one that comes up when you click on the image. You can edit it just like any other page. If you fail to gain permission for those images, let myself or another administrator know, and we will delete it from the WikiFur image store. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 14:04, 16 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I very strongly feel that we should delete the images; they can be uploaded again if permission is given. -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 16:16, 16 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Then do so. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 19:08, 16 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Done. Thanks for the confirmation. -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 23:24, 16 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == hi ==<br /> <br /> &quot;Girl's amateur use of makeup by applying too much and her voice make are evidence she is a teenager below the age of eighteen.&quot; That wasn't meant as personal, though. It was more a Sherlock Holmes style detective work. I just want to be clear it was not my intention. I probably wrote it wrong. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 14:10, 21 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :It just seemed . . . well, like something you'd post on LiveJournal rather than in an encyclopedia, in much the same way as you get anti-furries taking pictures of fat people at cons and going &quot;hey, look, aren't furries fat!&quot; - maybe that wasn't your intention, but it was the vibe I got from your words. Her ''own'' words make her look bad enough as it is without pointing out her use of makeup.<br /> <br /> :A secondary consideration is that page is intended to be just a list of links rather than an in-depth discussion of them. If you really want to write up the details (which would probably include details from both videos), you could make an article on it and then link to it, as with the other articles linked from the media links page. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 18:10, 21 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: Hmmm... you have an odd idea of copying the threads of talk and putting it on both talk pages. Well back to the topic, I also forgot the eyebrows were unplucked (I just wanted to write that down somewhere) as giving evidence that she was a minor. I think I'll put likely minor in the article. Umm.. I don't know if it's worthy of an article itself. It mostly is just a webcam video and then speaking of the vanity fair article. It would be different if it went through the things produced by actual furries, like her reaction to furry pornography art, but I think the video looks like little effort was put into it, and the humor was mostly the behavior of the girl herself. Encyclopedia Dramatica and some of the TV spots for instance do put some effort into their work. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 15:16, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I can just see that sequel: &quot;Valley Girl, Furry Porn&quot;. Nuts and berries, indeed! <br /> <br /> :::I actually think there's an opportunity to do a ''good'' video on furries and put it up there. The question would be whether or not anyone would go around with a videocamera at (say) Anthrocon and film it, and whether or not people would agree to its distribution. Maybe if it was done by someone already respected in the community.<br /> <br /> ::::Speaking for Anthrocon, I can tell you that our [http://www.anthrocon.org/rules-conduct Rules of Conduct] prohibit &quot;broadcasting&quot; of any video taken at the convention, which includes posting it online. --[[User:Dmuth|Giza]] 19:25, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::. . . without permission. I was thinking of one that would be done with permission. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 19:44, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::::Based on my experience, furries at cons get very nervous when there is a camera rolling, due to past bad experiences. I wouldn't recommend holding your breath on getting permission to broadcast anything that's filmed. :-/ --[[User:Dmuth|Giza]] 19:54, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::::Alas! On that general topic, it might be nice to do some kind of &quot;WikiFur Documentary&quot; thing. Maybe we could start with topics like &quot;acting out in [[fursuit]]&quot; or &quot;making your first [[tail]]&quot; and work up to tricky topics like &quot;attending a furry convention&quot;. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 19:59, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::::::Do you mean having documentation here on WikiFur, or elsewhere? If it's here on WikiFur, would such an article still be considered &quot;encyclopedic&quot;? --[[User:Dmuth|Giza]] 21:01, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::::::I believe that there is certainly room on WikiFur for material that is created by a particular person or group of people, something like &quot;RandomVulpine's guide to making furry feet&quot;. Some use their own websites for such material, but if people want to put them up on WikiFur then I think we should be open to that. These should naturally be clearly tagged with a template similar to the current [[:Template:personal-article|personal articles]] one, and should be placed in the User: namespace, or possibly a separate namespace designed for the purpose - Tutorial:, say. They could be linked to from regular articles, though it might be good to make a separately-headed section for them to separate them from the regular links that you'd get in ''See also''.<br /> <br /> :::I tend to copy talk because it's easier for other people to follow that way. I also archive my talk now and then, which makes it harder for people trying to follow the other side of conversation. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 18:55, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Off subject, when the game Spore comes out (a design evolution), I expect it may have something for furry gaming. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 15:18, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I agree, though [[Second Life]] seems to have grabbing most of the virtual furry world for now. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 18:55, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Testing... ==<br /> <br /> I notice one or two articles about me and my comics say they need improving. My question is this: How much is too much? I'd like to do my part without overdoing it, ya know?<br /> <br /> :--[[User:GraveyardGreg|Graveyard Greg]]<br /> <br /> :It's hard to do too much. I guess if you found yourself stretching for something to say, then it might be time to stop. Of course, I have a [[GreenReaper|fairly short article]], but then I don't have much to say about myself, as I've not had a long history in the furry fandom. [[Somewolf]] has a rather longer one. Certainly, comics can be and have been covered in significant depth. The ''[[Gaming Guardians]]'' article is a good idea of the minimum length that gives a good coverage of the key aspects of the topic, enough that it was featured, but it would certainly be possible to add to it without compromising that.<br /> <br /> :It is possible to go much farther, of course. For example, Wikipedia has a very extensive article on ''[[Wikipedia:Kevin and Kell|Kevin and Kell]]''. That would be unusual to see here (probably the closest is ''[[Dan and Mab's Furry Adventures]]'', and the plot is hardly covered there), but if people want to go that far on just about any topic it is welcome. We have many relatively short articles through happenstance, not choice. It's not like we're going to run out of paper, after all. :-)<br /> <br /> :The perfect article tells people everything they want to know about a topic. For some topics, this can be a lot. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 04:16, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Species and characters categories ==<br /> <br /> I think all of us will agree that having subcategories for species, and for characters of those species, is a good thing, up to a certain point. But I'm concerned that we may be getting a little carried away with it. Perhaps we're not to the point yet where we've overdone it and need to backpedal on some of the categories that have been created, but I think we're getting close to that point in some areas, and that it would be a good idea to stop and think about how far we want to go with this.<br /> <br /> What do the rest of you think? More species/character categories, or is it time to rein it in? --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 21:24, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I like to think of it as setting the framework for future growth. Although if we start using Latin names, then I think we've gone too far. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 22:42, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I look at it this way: If I'm a casual reader and I'm interested in, let's say, wolf characters. I click on the Wolf characters category and I see a whole bunch of names, plus (in this instance) sub-categories for Artic Wolf characters, Werewolves, and Wolf-Hybrid characters. Am I going to click on the subcategories to find the one or two listings beneath each entry, or ignore them and use the large main list? From a usability standpoint, I'm not sure I see the usefulness of breaking things down to the point where it's only two or three entries in a category.----[[User:DuncanDaHusky|DuncanDaHusky]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:DuncanDaHusky|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 11:54, 26 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Hiya! ==<br /> <br /> Hey there! Thanks for the warm greet. I didn't exactly get to finish last night due to work issues, AND the fact I wasn't completely sure what I was doing (lol) Looks like someone was kind enough to get the basics started for me anyway :-) <br /> <br /> As I learn a little more, I'd really like to be more active in the Wiki community so hopefully you'll see a little more of me ;-)<br /> <br /> <br /> Regards<br /> -=Wulfsige=-<br /> <br /> ==Thanks!==<br /> Thanks man, this is the best Wiki EVER! - MegaKitsune<br /> <br /> == Reply ==<br /> <br /> ' I guess you found your way here from the creatures wiki' <br /> <br /> Sort of, pretty long story. I think I found them both at relatively the same time, when I started using wikipedia. <br /> <br /> Thanks for the friendly welcomes! --[[User:Listeel|Listeel]] 14:32, 30 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Edit buttons ==<br /> <br /> How do you set up an edit button like Wikifur and the Creatures wiki have? I'm also a member at the Sporewiki and want to contribute a button like that for them {{Unsigned|Listeel}}<br /> <br /> :Check out the [[MediaWiki:Monobook.css]] page, in particular the section starting:<br /> <br /> :''/* Create more space to top and left of the section Edit links and put norn in it */''<br /> <br /> :If you copy this and adjust it for your wiki (you will need to change the URL to match the URL of an image uploaded at your wiki or somewhere else) then it should work. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 20:14, 30 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Infobox question ==<br /> <br /> I've been trying to make an Infobox for [[A Fox in the Works]] page with little luck, something like what Wikipedia has for TV series (ie [[Wikipedia:Babylon_5]]. I'm really don't know what I'm doing, and it's something that would probably work better as a template so it can be used for comics and other furry story series.<br /> <br /> I can't find any help on making an infobox like this, and what I try to do comes up more then a bit fragged. Any help would be greatly appreciated. --[[User:Fox Cutter|Fox Cutter]] 05:13, 2 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Probably the best place to start is [[Wikipedia:Template:Infobox|Wikipedia's sample infobox template]], which is relatively simple as they go. The one you mentioned, [[Wikipedia:Template:Infobox Television|Template:Infobox Television]] is indeed hideously complex, in part because it relies on expressions (which are not yet available at Wikia, so it will give hideously mangled results).<br /> <br /> :Start simple. Just copy the template to a blank Template: page here (perhaps [[Template:Infobox]]!), and then try it out on a page. Try modifying various things, trying it out in the preview. Have a look at [[Wikipedia:Help:Template|Wikipedia's template help]]. It is not, unfortunately, very clear, but it starts off with some useful information. Our [[WikiFur:Templates|templates section]] has various ones that definitely work here, which you could copy from as well. If you get stuck, ask for help on a discussion page, saying what you want it to do, and someone will probably lend a hand (and if not, prod me :-). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 06:00, 2 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Wikipedia.org Extinctioners page being considered for deletion ==<br /> <br /> I'm so upset right now because my Extinctioners page at Wikipedia.org is being considered for deletion, if I try and update the one here, will it also be deleted, please let me know in my talk(if it works) --[[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]]<br /> <br /> :On the contrary, we would be glad to have your contributions, as long as the copyright status of the images is satisfactory (either GFDL or another open form of licensing, or permission for use on WikiFur). As you can see on [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Extinctioners|Wikipedia's deletion proposal]], their reasoning is that ''[[Extinctioners]]'' is not sufficiently notable in the general world for an article. WikiFur is all about the furry fandom, so that's not applicable here. Just remember that as with Wikipedia articles are community efforts - after all, you copied the initial article from here - and you should do fine. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 23:51, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Cleanup? ==<br /> <br /> Well, I've finished both the Extinctioners page and the individual character pages but some of them have a clean up not at the top, how can you clean up what little (in some cases) is there? --[[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]]<br /> <br /> :Perhaps they were referring to the manner in which the text was phrased? For example, it might have been written in first-person, when third-person is more appropriate for an encyclopedia. It might also be that formatting was non-standard or that the article was not correctly categorized (we really need to get specific templates for these, right now cleanup is used for everything). You can always ask the person who put the tag on the article what their precise reasoning was. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 00:42, 7 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Horizontal or vertical? ==<br /> <br /> Hey listen, I'm not being a prud but someone named Dmuth has edited some of my character section (I'm not reporting the editing itself) but he caused the multiple pics the stack ontop each other in the right hand side of the screen, I've fixed mos of them, you can see the original ones he did in the jistory section, please let me know what you think of the matter, alright, thank you. --[[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]]<br /> <br /> :I personally think they look better side by side ''in that particular case''. Those pictures happen to be particularly tall, and the fact that there is little text to go with it means that a better use of the space is to have them in a row. Most WikiFur articles have a lot more text in relation to the numbers of pictures, which is why the convention is to have them at the side, or in a combination of side pictures and a gallery as you can see in [[The Forest]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 00:42, 7 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Andorozon pics ==<br /> <br /> The Creator of the Andorozon comics has sent me an e-mail giving me permission to use his picsm how do I forward you the e-mail to get the pics licenced, the pics up already were drawn by Shawntae Howard and were licenced but Ken Singshow is going to send his own pics, what do I do? --[[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]]<br /> <br /> :I would suggest that you just attach a copy of the email giving permission to the [[Talk:Andorozon|discussion page]] of the [[Andorozon]] article. That way everyone who looks at the article. You could also add a note on the image upload description that links to that page (something like &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Talk:Andorozon|permission information]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;).<br /> <br /> :Also, when writing messages on talk pages please sign your name by putting &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt; at the end so we know who's talking and so who to reply to. It's possible to find that information out by looking at the edit history, but it's a lot easier if it's right there. Thanks! :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 15:34, 5 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Heya. I've noticed that the text of Maxwell Manx (Copy Cat) looks to have come from http://www.geocities.com/extinctioners/profile_copycat.html and I assume that's similarly the case for at least some of the other character articles. Could you clarify that for me? I gather we have permission to use the character images here, but I don't remember reference to text descriptions, and I'm ever anxious about copyright concerns. -- Sine 00:29, 7 June 2006 (UTC) <br /> <br /> I understand what you are saying but believe me, I have been given permission from Shawntae Howard himself to use both his pics and text in this and other related articles pertaining to Extinctioners, listen could you give me your e-mail address so I can forward his e-mail of him giving permission or should I talk about this with GreenReaper what should I do?RVDDP2501 01:17, 7 June 2006 (UTC) <br /> <br /> I'd suggest copying the e-mail to the talk page of the Extinctioners article; I've seen similar things here previously. You could certainly check with GreenReaper to confirm the procedure. <br /> It's great that we have all this Extinctioners material to work with, and that you've been so active with it. -- Sine 02:09, 7 June 2006 (UTC) <br /> <br /> (forgive me if you have already said something on this matter, my memory isn't al that good) so EXACTLY what must I do?<br /> <br /> :All we need on the talk page (or on the Licensing section of the image pages) is something to show that a) you have asked to use the author's copyrighted works, on this website or on Wikipedia (which has similar requirements) and b) that he has said yes. This would probably be your initial request to him, and his reply. This should not a general agreement that you can write a wiki page about the topic (you could do that without asking), but something that makes it clear that you intend to use some related parts of his copyrighted works in the pages - as you say, &quot;both his pics and text&quot;. That is the thing that requires permission, because it is his right to allow copies of his work on this site (or not to allow them, as he sees fit).<br /> <br /> :If you have previously asked for specific permission to use parts of his works rather than just writing ''about'' them, then that's fine - just put a copy of that on the page. If not, you should do so. You could point him to the wiki pages that have already been written (including some of the pictures) and ask him if that kind of use is OK. You could also invite him to look at the [http://furry.wikia.com/wiki/WikiFur:Copyrights copyrights page], and/or to contact us directly if he has questions. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 05:12, 7 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Forum ==<br /> <br /> Good timezone. The [[Forum:Index|forums]] are all set up and ready to go. Let me know if you want help changing anything. I added a [[Help:Forums|help page]] but it's a bit basic at the moment, because I'm still figuring out how things work and what we need to know! It will be good to see how it goes. Later -- [[User:Sannse|sannse]] [[Wikia:User talk:Sannse|(talk)]] 13:41, 8 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Hey, man==<br /> <br /> Thanks for the welcome and comments. I got tagged for cleanup for my article, but I'm not exactly sure where I should start looking to clean it up. Any thoughts? --[[User:Réizàr]]<br /> <br /> :You'd have to ask [[User:DuncanDaHusky]] about that, since he tagged it. However, this passage does spring to mind as one example:<br /> <br /> ::''His most noticeable feature is the moon-and-star tattoo on the back of his left hand, but when asked for a meaning, the most one can expect of the enigmatic weretiger is a sliht shrug, not out of rudeness, but because he has yet to find an actual meaning for it beyond something he drew one day in a fit of boredom.''<br /> <br /> :It's an encyclopedia article, not a MUCK character description. It could just as easily be something like &quot;His most noticeable feature is the moon-and-star tattoo on the back of his left hand, which has no inherent meaning.&quot; There's no call to be mysterious about it. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 23:59, 8 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Ah, okay. Odd though; that's been there for a while, and I was referring to myself IRL. I'll look it over though, and think of a way to simplify it. Thanks.<br /> --[[Réizàr]]<br /> <br /> :::That's just an example of something that popped out at me. He might have been looking at at something else. Given the size of WikiFur, not all people will have read all articles, and so they may come across something that they disagree with that they'd also have disagreed with beforehand. They may also have a threshold before they actually do something about it. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 02:00, 9 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Yeah, it's pretty big here. I'll skim over it a few more times and ask Duncan what else he thinks needs to be cleaned up. One of these days I'll get it right. Hah.<br /> <br /> == Furpile ==<br /> <br /> I've noticed that sometimes the [[WikiFur:Furpile|Furpile]] link goes unupdated, so I've been choosing articles for it. Essentially I've been clicking &quot;Random page&quot; until something suitable turns up. I'm only trying to keep it from going empty, so I won't update it further than a day ahead. So if you want to nominate things you still can. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 04:06, 10 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Thanks! As noted on the page, you can choose as many as you like at once, as long as you don't repeat stuff that's coming up or was recently requested. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 05:35, 10 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thanks from the newbie ==<br /> I just want to say thanks for correcting my spelling errors and welcoming me on my first page. Very appriciated! ~[[Kuzzy]]<br /> <br /> == Galciv ==<br /> <br /> I asked you some questions on that wiki. I don't know if you check it often, so I will note it here. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 13:47, 10 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Hmmm you are faster on checking encyclopedia dramatica than here. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 22:20, 10 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Patience. I get watchlist emails everywhere, I just sometimes don't get around to pressing &quot;Save page&quot; until I have had time to give a proper response. It's only just past breakfast here. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 22:22, 10 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :: Hmm watchlists can send emails. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 23:10, 10 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Watchlists can do everything! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 04:06, 12 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Flyers ==<br /> <br /> I forgot your room number already. But I trust that you found my note about the flyers in the meetup page. I even tried looking for you for an hour. That was rather fun. Spot the norn in the furpile. And without a cell number, I couldn't directly contact you.<br /> <br /> Anyway. See you at the meetup! ----[[User:Markus|Markus]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:Markus|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 07:49, 16 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Don't have a cell phone! But yes, we did indeed meetup, so that was OK. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 01:52, 19 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Recent Changes Error? ==<br /> <br /> Recent changes has the following line in it: &quot;Below are the last 50 changes in the last 7 days, as of $3.&quot; I don't think the $3 is intentional, is it? [[User:SpazKitty|Spaz Kitty]]<br /> <br /> :No, you're right - there's been something up with recent changes since the most recent upgrade. There's a bug filed for it on Wikia, it's just rather low-priority right now, especially since it's probably something that will have to be fixed in the main MediaWiki source code tree anyway. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 05:28, 19 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Brillliant Right! ==<br /> <br /> http://www.truechristian.com/furriesa.html<br /> Interesting! Just wanted to see what you guys think.<br /> <br /> :It's good to see such an authoritative and popular site covering the topic! Shame about the colour scheme, but eh, what can you do? --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 17:20, 19 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::How much of that site did you look at? Not exactly the most flattering portayal of furries. If anything, I'm glad they chose a color scheme that makes it look like an amateur rant. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 18:43, 19 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I was being sarcastic. :-) I guess I should have included the ;-) . . . --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 18:46, 19 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Hmm, okay. My bad. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 19:46, 19 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Hello! ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for the warm welcome! ^-^ I thought this was the best way to display our music to the furry community! I'll be sure to ask you if i need help.<br /> Thanks again,<br /> Ether<br /> <br /> == Extinctioners at Answers.com ==<br /> <br /> Hey GreenReaper, RVDDP2501 here, I just found an Extinctioners page (flawed) at Answer.com I told them about the problems and changes they could make, it looks like an original version I had at wikipedia.org (I guess they hadn't checked for updated versions) I also told them about Wikifurs version, they haven't replied yet, so what do you think - http://www.answers.com/topic/extinctioners, I mean I can't believe how my pages are spreading, you know. - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 19:48, 20 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :They are apt to taking the contents of Wikipedia, aren't they? They do that for a lot of other articles as well - it is an automated system. I doubt they will add WikiFur to their list, though it's always a possibility. They will probably update from Wikipedia over the next few months. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 19:55, 20 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> yeah, your probably right, anyways if you have any ideas, suggestion, etc. about making the page(s) better, please let me know, thanks - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 20:32, 20 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thanks ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for the great welcome. If there is anything that I can do to help, feel free to ask.<br /> <br /> ~Nevar<br /> <br /> == regards ==<br /> <br /> Ghear maidth agus :)<br /> thank you for the welcome. I, too, joined since someone created a wiki of me and my fiance. I figured I needed to correct our wikis and make them as unbiased as possible.<br /> <br /> == Hi. ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for welcoming me. I myself am a [[wizard]] at [[Frontier Galaxy MUCK]] so I figured if nothing else, it'd be my duty to correct that '''that''' little entry. Though I'm blindly stumbling through Wiki's system presently, glad I'm only editing and not adding articles, need to read a bit more before I try something like that. (And I would if I didn't have homework for a test, heh!) --[[User:Autolycus|Autolycus]]<br /> <br /> :Well, it's great that you had the time to fix it up - and should you find any more later, feel free to try your hand at making articles yourself. If it looks like you need help I'm sure one of our regular contributors will step in and lend a hand. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 07:01, 25 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Extinctioners improvement ==<br /> <br /> Hey GreenReaper, thanks a whole lot with the list improvement, seriously, thanks, if there is any other ideas on how to make the page(s) better, by all mean, do what you think is right. - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 02:01, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Of course. In this case I just thought it could be a little more compact before I linked it as our comic of the week. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 02:04, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> &quot;comic of the week&quot;? really!, this is just about the comic or the page as well? I don't quite fully understand what you mean? please let me know, thanks - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 02:08, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Look at the bottom left of the front page. Our comics of the week can be based on various criteria, but in this case I featured it because of the extensive coverage on WikiFur. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 02:11, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> oh, ok, I see it, sorry about that, listen I wanna ask you opinion and/or permission on something, I was planning on creating a page for a Extinctioners character called Krystin [http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/26978911/ deviantart.com] but I was not sure if you and/or Wikifur would approve of the pic of the character which IS a bit mature, I did an edit though in which I put a black back covering the &quot;chest area&quot;, do you want me to upload the censored pic without making the caracter page for you to look at and decide as to whether or not it would be appropriate to make the page with the pic? - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 02:52, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Go ahead and upload the original, if it is appropriate for the character. [[WikiFur:What WikiFur is not#WikiFur is not censored for the protection of minors|WikiFur is not censored for minors]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 02:58, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Ok, I just uploaded the pic of Krystin, the pic name is [[:Image:Extinctioners_cast_Krystin.jpg]], please let me know what you think and if I should go ahead with this character's page, thank you - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 03:09, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Seems reasonable enough. Go for it! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 03:19, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Thank you, I though I would do the right thing and discuss this with you first about the pic before I did something that would be disapproved of by you and others at wikifur, I do not like to make mistakes, ok - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 03:22, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Listen, thanks a whole lot for removing the nude pic of Krystin, I got an e-mail from Shawntae Howard saying he would prefer I not use that pic of Krystin due to it being so mature, he said he would send me another one to use in time, so until then, I uploaded the other version of the same pic only now with a black bar covering her chest, ok, thanks for removing those pics, I couldn't figure out how to do it. (God, I hope I haven't pissed him off) - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 22:11, 28 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :No problem. For future reference, you can always overwrite an image with a newer one by uploading a file and specifying the same destination filename, although deleting it entirely requires an administrator (and it is currently an irreversible operation). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 22:15, 28 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I though that was what i had done, I guess I messed up, I'm sorry to do that to you - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 22:18, 28 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I think you did, too - I saw the original had a black bar on it, but perhaps you didn't notice, because soon after you uploaded a (Censored) version as well. [[User:SpazKitty|Spaz Kitty]]<br /> <br /> :I think I know what happened - you uploaded it, but didn't force a refresh by going directly to the image file (not the image page) and pressing Ctrl+F5. Your computer still thought that the image was valid, as it had it cached, so it showed the uncensored version. It's often a problem for new wiki founders who add logos, as it looks like it's not changing, even though it is. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 22:23, 28 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Any ways, long story short, thanks for removing the pic and I hope I don't make the same mistake again, thank you. - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 22:38, 28 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> sorry, forget previous post, prolem fixed itself, sorry - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 17:32, 3 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == (sic) ==<br /> <br /> oh, my bad, man. i didn't know. thanks for telling me :) by the way, that article, [[Wolfie]], isn't about me. <br /> [[User:Wolfie|Wolfie]] 13:41, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Meep ==<br /> <br /> So, uh, I like, decided to add stuff cuz people I knew/knew of weren't on here, and uh.... seems they think I put too much D8<br /> <br /> I -was- careful to put only stuff I knew was publically visible, and I did add a bit more than I thought was needed, cuz I thought anyone concerned with privacy, like say other wiki contributors, would be like &quot;Hmm maybe you should delete that&quot; &lt;br /&gt;<br /> instead of suddenly &quot;OMG stalkers! everywhere! nuuuuu!&quot; o.o;<br /> This really upset me cuz they're people I interact with at least on occasion, and I value their opinion, so having them think I'm crazy(er)... &lt;br /&gt;<br /> I didn't tell anyone cuz I wanted a &quot;professional&quot; distance, if they knew I was doing it... well, &quot;the observer changes the observed&quot;.<br /> <br /> And honestly, I didnt -try- that hard, maybe an hour on each person... after all it's '''wiki''' and can be edited later...<br /> and I was mostly tryin to just sketch their persona since it's in their ART so much y'know ._.<br /> <br /> Anyway I explained myself some on [[Talk:Seel Dingo|Seel's talk page]], because I want to make everyone as happy as possible.<br /> <br /> PS- I'd be willing to have anything I do &quot;depersonalized&quot; but won't do it myself if it makes it look like I'm just covering my ass. Of course, yeah, it's a wiki and past changes can be viewed...<br /> <br /> --[[User:BennuTeomabar|BennuTeomabar]] 16:46, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Don't worry about it. I think the invididual involved is being a little out of line. Basically they're complaining because you reposted some information that was publically available. It seems to me that their worldview is that nobody should be allowed to talk about anybody else. We don't subscribe to that view here. :-) --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 16:55, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Wikifur news ==<br /> <br /> I couldn't figure out how to add a news item. :/ I thought the passing of [[Peter S. Beagle]]'s mother (Peter being the author of The Last Unicorn) might be of note to some furry fans. I just received word from Beagle's newsletter and it pointed to this page ... http://www.conlanpress.com/html/rebecca_beagle.html --[[User:Chibiabos|Chibiabos]]<br /> <br /> :To post a news item, you create the link to the template as you did (preferably in a preview first), then make the page that it links to, and add a link to that page to [[Template:Newsbar]] and the [[WikiFur:Community Central]] page.<br /> <br /> :However, I would have to say that I would not really agree with posting it as news on WikiFur. Wikipedia used to have the somewhat pithy phrase &quot;It's sad when people die, but Wikipedia is not the place to honor them,&quot; and I feel this is true for WikiFur as well. People (particularly the mothers and fathers of the older people in the fandom) die all the time.<br /> <br /> :While the death of a person already relevant to WikiFur just for being in the fandom is a fact that should go on the the page about them, it is not site news. Moreover, all previous news items have been directly related to WikiFur. If it had been someone of major relevance to the fandom I might have thought differently - say, [[Uncle Kage]], or ''maybe'', at a stretch, [[Grandma Kage]] (who is relevant enough to have a page, but not much of one yet). However, we don't even have an entry on Peter yet, let alone his mother. We're not a furry news aggregator, and this doesn't really seem to count as furry news as much as a personal loss. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 23:08, 27 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Multiple edits ==<br /> <br /> I really apologize for all the edits, I'm new to any sort of wiki, so I'm just trying to get it as perfect as possible XD --[[User:Nekonaru Letao|Nekonaru Letao]]<br /> <br /> :It's no real problem. Perfection is an admirable goal to have. :-) Oh, one more tip - you can sign your name on talk pages with &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~, or ~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt; to get the date as well. It helps people reading to see who said what! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 01:50, 29 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Minor Bug on Recent Changes page ==<br /> <br /> Howdy! I just noticed a small bug on the Recent Changes page. At the top of the page (at least according my my preferences), it reads:<br /> <br /> Below are the last 200 changes in the last 7 days, as of $3.<br /> <br /> I'm thinking that that &quot;$3&quot; is a variable that isn't being called correctly. It's obviously a minor thing, but something I thought might be a quick fix if you've got the permissions.----[[User:DuncanDaHusky|DuncanDaHusky]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:DuncanDaHusky|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 16:11, 29 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Yeah. It's been like that since we upgraded to 1.7 alpha. It's a known bug, but it was low priority for the Wikia guys. I'll have a chat with them and see if it's a quick fix. If not, it can be removed by editing [[MediaWiki:Rcnote]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 16:27, 29 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Can you help? ==<br /> <br /> On [[furluminati]], Spirou constantly vandalizes the article, but no matter what I put he reverts me back to his version (and he has not even corrected the grammar/spelling errors in it). I have tried and tried to please him, but I've seen his type and they just revert nonstop as they like--just like willy on wheels likes to move pages to &quot;on wheels&quot; and others like to blank pages, Spirou gets his vandalism high from reverting. I keep trying to please him, but obviously he is just out to cause trouble by revert vandalism. I have put hours and hours into fixing it up and he does not care. Spirou is not here to fix anything, he is just to harass me by reverting anything I do on the article, even fixing his grammar. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 02:37, 30 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I'm guessing GreenReaper is away right now. Have either of you heard of the [[Wikipedia:WP:3RR|three revert rule]] on Wikipedia? I think it can apply here on WikiFur too. I'll block for 24 hours if I see a violation of the three revert rule from either of you. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 03:10, 30 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Spirou will then just revert 3 times a day, but still vandalize. Also on wikipedia reverting vandalism doesn't count toward 3RR. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 03:22, 30 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I was away for a half-hour, but I am back right now. While the three revert rule is not a rule on WikiFur at this time, its rationale is sound. Page edits should not turn into revert wars. I am looking more carefully at the edits made to see what to suggest in this particular circumstance. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 03:14, 30 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Spirou isn't trying to edit, just revert. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 03:22, 30 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::I ''said'', I'm looking. Patience, please. :-) I would also suggest that you focus on the edits, rather than the person behind them. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 03:25, 30 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::His last edit was a revert again, but he changed some words and acted like it wasn't. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 03:28, 30 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> You locked the article on Spirou's version and he's the cause. :( [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 04:10, 30 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Page protection is used to prevent further edits while the situation is delt with. [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Protection policy#A temporary protection is used for:|It does not express]] a preference for the version that happens to be protected. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 04:16, 30 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == What was the killhamster article here? ==<br /> <br /> You said: &quot;I would note that the article about &quot;killhamster&quot;, whose article was used as a reference, was deleted, twice, for being totally full of nonsense added by himself and his friends.&quot;<br /> <br /> I referenced his livejournal and the edit dispute in the LJ was talking about on ED. Umm... did he make an article on wikifur? [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 09:06, 1 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Yes. It was at various times a duplicate of User:Killhamster on ED, and/or random nonsense. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 09:15, 1 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == *Waves.* ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for leaving me a note. I've meant to put the link to the Eurofurence LJ instead of the website, I guess I was distracted when I added &quot;Eurofurence&quot; to the list. :B Sorry.<br /> <br /> :No problem!<br /> <br /> I tried to reply to you using the &quot;send mail&quot; option, but apparently I have to get a confirmation code, and while I tried a couples of times, it never seems to reach me. It's not in my &quot;spam&quot; box either, so I was wondering if something was broken on Wikifur's side, or what should I do.<br /> <br /> :Not sure about that. It should come from jasonr@wikia.com, if that helps.<br /> <br /> ::Okay, I made a research in my mailbox AND spambox, and I've never received any e-mail from this addy. I don't know what's wrong, it just doesn't seem to send me anything when I ask for a confirmation code.<br /> <br /> Also, and this may sound like a very stupid question, but.. I was wondering how to create articles here? I've only found help to edit existing articles; reading the artists pages I noticed some less-well known artists as well, as if they or someone had created a page about them, but I'm not sure the admins themselves did, and I can't find how to start a page from scratch in the help pages. Is it a privilege-thing or did I miss the option or an help page somewhere? Is it related to the fact I haven't entered any confirmation code yet (see first issue in paragraph above)?<br /> <br /> :There are several ways that (I think they're on [[Help:Editing]]) - try to go to a page with the search box and click the red link when you don't find it, make a link in an existing page (or in a preview) and click on it, or just change the URL to the appropriate one and click '''edit this page'''. It is something anyone can do (even anonymous users) and is not related to email confirmation. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 17:12, 1 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Ooh okay, thanks for our help! by the way, do you see my signature when I reply (as in, my username and link to &quot;talk&quot; and such) or do I have to add it manually?<br /> <br /> :::No, you need to add it with &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~ (or ~~~ to just add the name)&lt;/nowiki&gt;. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 16:21, 3 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Person exclusion without current article ==<br /> <br /> Within the last few minutes I've had the misfortune of encountering a situation with which I've had no prior experience -- an unregistered user has removed a single name from the [[:Category:People/People to add]] page. I had reverted the change once and the same IP has made the change again. I've now left a message on their [[User talk:69.231.20.143|talk page]] about removing information without reason and a link to our personal information policy. I then reverted the change again. I think that the specificity of these edits might indicate that this IP is of the person concerned and I would greatly appreciate advice on how to procede if they should decide to edit the page again without providing more information to us. -- [[User:DeVandalizer|DeVandalizer]] 19:19, 1 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :In this specific case, I don't think there's a real problem with removing names on the People to add list. It actually saves time over us having to go through the process of excluding an article later (unless someone makes it via another link). There's not much &quot;information&quot; in just a name. :-)<br /> <br /> :In general, there's no need to tell people they're going to be banned for removing stuff in the first instance, except in very bad situations. [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Assume good faith|Assume good faith]] - chances are, they ''are'' that person, and are just not particularly interested in having an article. Be welcoming, and then you will probably get a better response from that person (and they will have a better impression of WikiFur, so we avoid situations like [http://thefoxes.livejournal.com/26151.html this]). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 20:49, 1 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Please see my response on my [[User talk:DeVandalizer]], I watch talk pages that I edit (no need to copy discussion) :) -- [[User:DeVandalizer|DeVandalizer]] 06:09, 2 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == New Featured Article ==<br /> I wouldn't mind taking over the duty of writing the summary for featured articles for this week. I looked for something to write about but I can't really find any consensus on the featured article candidates page. What articles would you suggest? -- [[User:DeVandalizer|DeVandalizer]] 05:37, 3 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I would suggest that you have a look at some of the [[Special:Longpages|long pages]] and see if there are any on there that have not been featured. Longness in and of itself is not a sign of greatness, but articles should have ''some'' length to be featured, so it's a good start. Once you think you've found a good choice, try to condense the gist of it down into three or four fairly short paragraphs, with appropriate links to other articles, and [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=WikiFur:This_week%27s_featured_article/Week_27%2C_2006&amp;action=edit replace the redirect with it]. Have a look at [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=WikiFur:This_week%27s_featured_article/Week_26%2C_2006&amp;action=edit last week's] examples of formatting and linking. And good luck! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 05:49, 3 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Code error, etc. ==<br /> <br /> Couple of things...One, on both the WikiFur homepage and your talk page, &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;clear:both&quot;/&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt; appears. Two, [[Talk:SCHLITZER]] is a leftover from the Crabs crabs crabs! x 50 vandal that previously redirected to my talk page - not sure if you saw that all the way back in recent changes (I've been boredly busy today XD). [[User:SpazKitty|Spaz Kitty]] 02:47, 4 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I've had a chat with the Wikia admins and this is a temporary error in the MediaWiki version that they are testing. I've replaced it with the equivalent (but working) &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;div style&quot;clear:both&quot;&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt; in those two places. If there are other pages affected, they should be fixed after the testing concludes. It looks like [[User:Sine|Sine]] got the other problem. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 03:38, 4 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Hello ==<br /> <br /> Hi GreenReaper, thanks forleaving a note on my talk page. [[User:Lilim|Lilim]] 04:41, 4 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thanks ==<br /> Thanks for helping me delete the left over pages from the recent vandalism. It's much appreciated :) -- [[User:DeVandalizer|DeVandalizer]] 23:16, 4 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Seemed like a similar pattern to last time. If it happens again I'll get the staff to do a checkuser to get their IP and see if we can do a range block. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 23:21, 4 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Sounds like a good plan. I saw the user page creation in recent changes and I had some inkling something was going to go down -- the pattern was far too similar. -- [[User:DeVandalizer|DeVandalizer]] 23:28, 4 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Google Analytics Stats ==<br /> <br /> Any chance you could sign me up to access wikifur's stats on google analytics? -- [[User:DeVandalizer|DeVandalizer]] 00:00, 5 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Sure, if you tell me your GMail or Google Account address, either here or [[Special:Emailuser/GreenReaper|privately]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 00:02, 5 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::No problem, my gmail account is devandalizer@gmail.com -- [[User:DeVandalizer|DeVandalizer]] 00:06, 5 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Done. You may access the statistics [https://www.google.com/analytics/home/report?rid=52980 here]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 00:10, 5 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::I am in. Thank you. -- [[User:DeVandalizer|DeVandalizer]] 00:14, 5 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Categorization ==<br /> <br /> I'm curious - why remove the [[:Category:Werewolf characters]] from the article about you? We generally apply it to articles about people whose fursonas are the appropriate &quot;species&quot;, although not if there is a separate article about the character under a different name. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 08:06, 15 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I don't feel that the term &quot;Character&quot; applies really. It insinuates that my werewolf side is a fabrication, whereas that is how I see myself spiritually and have done for a very long time.<br /> <br /> :The only characters I have are Thalyi and Boswell, they have always been pure fabrications and are the only ones I &quot;play&quot;. Simply put, I am Graafen.<br /> <br /> :I hope this isn't too confusing. If it's needed then I will replace the category.<br /> <br /> :[[User:Graafen Blackpaw|Graafen Blackpaw]] 15:37, 5 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Fair enough. We tend not to try and force categories on people that they feel are inappropriate, unless there's a good reason for believing otherwise. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 15:47, 5 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::By the way, could you remove my article? I've moved all the info to my User page instead. The only reason it was there as an article anyway was a mistake. XD -- [[User:Graafen Blackpaw|Graafen Blackpaw]] 15:55, 5 July 2006 (UTC)</div>

Graafen Blackpaw //en.wikifur.com/wiki/User_talk:Graafen_Blackpaw 2006-07-05T15:52:52Z

<p>Graafen Blackpaw: /* Categorization */</p> <hr /> <div>Hi there, Graafen, and welcome to WikiFur! Thanks for telling us a bit about yourself. [[User talk:GreenReaper|Let me know]] if you need any [[help]] not already provided. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 15:10, 9 Dec 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Hey ThalyiFace! ;) Welcome to da wiki! --[[User:Nidonocu|Nidonocu]] - [[User talk:Nidonocu|talk]] [[Image:Trans 168.png|16px|Nidonocu]] 10:57, 15 Dec 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Categorization ==<br /> <br /> I'm curious - why remove the [[:Category:Werewolf characters]] from the article about you? We generally apply it to articles about people whose fursonas are the appropriate &quot;species&quot;, although not if there is a separate article about the character under a different name. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 08:06, 15 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I don't feel that the term &quot;Character&quot; applies really. It insinuates that my werewolf side is a fabrication, whereas that is how I see myself spiritually and have done for a very long time.<br /> <br /> :The only characters I have are Thalyi and Boswell, they have always been pure fabrications and are the only ones I &quot;play&quot;. Simply put, I am Graafen.<br /> <br /> :I hope this isn't too confusing.<br /> <br /> :[[User:Graafen Blackpaw|Graafen Blackpaw]] 15:33, 5 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Fair enough. We tend not to try and force categories on people that they feel are inappropriate, unless there's a good reason for believing otherwise. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 15:47, 5 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::By the way, could you remove my article? I've moved all the info to my User page instead. The only reason it was there as an article anyway was a mistake. XD -- [[User:Graafen Blackpaw|Graafen Blackpaw]] 15:52, 5 July 2006 (UTC)</div>

Graafen Blackpaw //en.wikifur.com/wiki/User:Graafen_Blackpaw 2006-07-05T15:49:01Z

<p>Graafen Blackpaw: Removal of &quot;Thalyi E. Wolfe's&quot; from LiveJournal link.</p> <hr /> <div>[[Image:Graafen_001sized.jpg|thumb|right|Graafen Blackpaw by [[Kaijima A. Frostfang]]]]<br /> <br /> '''Graafen Blackpaw''' is a [[werewolf]] and member of the Blackpaw pack. Born in 1983, he has lived in [[Wikipedia:Yorkshire|Yorkshire]] for his entire life and currently lives in [[Wikipedia:Wakefield|Wakefield]], [[Wikipedia:West Yorkshire|West Yorkshire]], [[Wikipedia:United Kingdom|United Kingdom]], working for a large IT company as a Customer Support Technician. He plans to move to [[Wikipedia:America|America]] at some point in the future but is unsure of when.<br /> <br /> Graafen has also been known as '''Thalyi E. Wolfe''' since 2000.<br /> <br /> == Fursuits ==<br /> <br /> Graafen is an avid [[fursuit]]er. He currently owns two fursuits: ''Thalyi'' and ''Boswell''.<br /> <br /> '''Thalyi''' debuted at [[Further Confusion 2005]]. Created by [[Jax The Purple Bat]] from Graafen's online character, Thalyi is a hybrid of Wolf and domestic Cat which gives him a pronounced cleft lip and a long wolf tail.<br /> <br /> '''Boswell''' debuted at [[Further Confusion 2006]]. Created by [[Noble A. Wolf]], Boswell is a black and purple furred 'gothic' skunk.<br /> <br /> Graafen's next fursuit is a werewolf suit, created by [http://www.runningwolfpack.com Running Wolf Productions] and is due to debute on [[Wikipedia:Halloween|Halloween]] 2006.<br /> <br /> {{person-stub}}<br /> <br /> == External links ==<br /> {{Contributor|Graafen Blackpaw}}<br /> * ''[http://graafen.livejournal.com/ Tails of a closet Werewolf]'' - Graafen Blackpaw's [[LiveJournal]]<br /> * [http://www.werewolf-inside.com/ Werewolf-Inside] - Graafen's personal website.<br /> * [http://www.werewolf-inside.com/gallery/ Werewolf-Inside Gallery]<br /> <br /> [[Category:People]][[Category:Fursuiters]]<br /> [[Category:United Kingdom]]<br /> [[Category:1983 births]]</div>

Graafen Blackpaw //en.wikifur.com/wiki/User:Graafen_Blackpaw 2006-07-05T15:47:37Z

<p>Graafen Blackpaw: </p> <hr /> <div>[[Image:Graafen_001sized.jpg|thumb|right|Graafen Blackpaw by [[Kaijima A. Frostfang]]]]<br /> <br /> '''Graafen Blackpaw''' is a [[werewolf]] and member of the Blackpaw pack. Born in 1983, he has lived in [[Wikipedia:Yorkshire|Yorkshire]] for his entire life and currently lives in [[Wikipedia:Wakefield|Wakefield]], [[Wikipedia:West Yorkshire|West Yorkshire]], [[Wikipedia:United Kingdom|United Kingdom]], working for a large IT company as a Customer Support Technician. He plans to move to [[Wikipedia:America|America]] at some point in the future but is unsure of when.<br /> <br /> Graafen has also been known as '''Thalyi E. Wolfe''' since 2000.<br /> <br /> == Fursuits ==<br /> <br /> Graafen is an avid [[fursuit]]er. He currently owns two fursuits: ''Thalyi'' and ''Boswell''.<br /> <br /> '''Thalyi''' debuted at [[Further Confusion 2005]]. Created by [[Jax The Purple Bat]] from Graafen's online character, Thalyi is a hybrid of Wolf and domestic Cat which gives him a pronounced cleft lip and a long wolf tail.<br /> <br /> '''Boswell''' debuted at [[Further Confusion 2006]]. Created by [[Noble A. Wolf]], Boswell is a black and purple furred 'gothic' skunk.<br /> <br /> Graafen's next fursuit is a werewolf suit, created by [http://www.runningwolfpack.com Running Wolf Productions] and is due to debute on [[Wikipedia:Halloween|Halloween]] 2006.<br /> <br /> {{person-stub}}<br /> <br /> == External links ==<br /> {{Contributor|Graafen Blackpaw}}<br /> * ''[http://graafen.livejournal.com/ Tails of a closet Werewolf]'' - Thalyi Wolfe / Graafen Blackpaw's [[LiveJournal]]<br /> * [http://www.werewolf-inside.com/ Werewolf-Inside] - Graafen's personal website.<br /> * [http://www.werewolf-inside.com/gallery/ Werewolf-Inside Gallery]<br /> <br /> [[Category:People]][[Category:Fursuiters]]<br /> [[Category:United Kingdom]]<br /> [[Category:1983 births]]</div>

Graafen Blackpaw //en.wikifur.com/wiki/User:Graafen_Blackpaw 2006-07-05T15:45:55Z

<p>Graafen Blackpaw: </p> <hr /> <div>[[Image:Graafen_001sized.jpg|thumb|right|Graafen Blackpaw by [[Kaijima A. Frostfang]]]]<br /> <br /> '''Graafen Blackpaw''' is a [[werewolf]] and member of the Blackpaw pack. Born in 1983, he has lived in [[Wikipedia:Yorkshire|Yorkshire]] for his entire life and currently lives in [[Wikipedia:Wakefield|Wakefield]], [[Wikipedia:West Yorkshire|West Yorkshire]], [[Wikipedia:United Kingdom|United Kingdom]], working for a large IT company as a Customer Support Technician. He plans to move to [[Wikipedia:America|America]] at some point in the future but is unsure of when.<br /> <br /> Graafen has also been known as '''Thalyi E. Wolfe''' since 2000.<br /> <br /> == Fursuits ==<br /> <br /> Graafen is an avid [[fursuit]]er. He currently owns two fursuits: ''Thalyi'' and ''Boswell''.<br /> <br /> '''Thalyi''' debuted at [[Further Confusion 2005]]. Created by [[Jax The Purple Bat]] from Graafen's online character, Thalyi is a hybrid of Wolf and domestic Cat which gives him a pronounced cleft lip and a long wolf tail.<br /> <br /> '''Boswell''' debuted at [[Further Confusion 2006]]. Created by [[Noble A. Wolf]], Boswell is a black and purple furred 'gothic' skunk.<br /> <br /> Graafen's next fursuit is a werewolf suit, created by [http://www.runningwolfpack.com Running Wolf Productions] and is due to debute on [[Wikipedia:Halloween|Halloween]] 2006.<br /> <br /> {{person-stub}}<br /> <br /> == External links ==<br /> {{ContributorU|Graafen Blackpaw}}<br /> * ''[http://graafen.livejournal.com/ Tails of a closet Werewolf]'' - Thalyi Wolfe / Graafen Blackpaw's [[LiveJournal]]<br /> * [http://www.werewolf-inside.com/ Werewolf-Inside] - Graafen's personal website.<br /> * [http://www.werewolf-inside.com/gallery/ Werewolf-Inside Gallery]<br /> <br /> [[Category:People]][[Category:Fursuiters]]<br /> [[Category:United Kingdom]]<br /> [[Category:1983 births]]</div>

Graafen Blackpaw //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Graafen_Blackpaw 2006-07-05T15:41:40Z

<p>Graafen Blackpaw: </p> <hr /> <div></div>

Graafen Blackpaw //en.wikifur.com/wiki/User_talk:GreenReaper 2006-07-05T15:37:43Z

<p>Graafen Blackpaw: Categorization</p> <hr /> <div>&lt;!-- You probably want to add stuff at the bottom of this page --&gt;<br /> {{User talk:GreenReaper/Header}}<br /> == Hi you ... ==<br /> Thanks for your welcome!<br /> I only joined 'cause somebody made a wiki page about me ... and in some kind it was wrong. x_x;<br /> So that's all.<br /> <br /> --[[User:Meeko|Meeko]] 01:40, 25 Mai 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Hi, GreenReaper ==<br /> <br /> This is partly a test to see if I've got this editor figured out before I do anything important with it. I notice someone put in an entry for yours truly (in fact that's how I wandered in - I was checking old Other Suns links which led to Nicolai's entry which led to mine) which I may update later; at least I suppose the fact that I was Den Mother of ConFurence for years and am now holding that position in CaliFur is at interesting as anything already there. Also an excuse for putting in a few Ursa Major links inasmuch as I maintain the Recommended List.<br /> <br /> Speaking of which, I got your note suggesting the addition of WikiFur to the Recommended Anthropomorphics list for this year - makes sense, though I'll have to discuss where to put it with the rest of the committee. We're currently counting nominations for this year's Ursa Major ballot.<br /> --[[User:Yealurowluro|Yealurowluro]] 00:58, 6 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Glad you got my note! I wasn't entirely sure if I should suggest it myself, but I figured it's something that's worth reading. :-) <br /> <br /> :It looks like you have the wiki editing figured out. Please do contribute to any articles you find lacking, and good luck figuring out those nominations. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 21:04, 5 April 2006 (PDT)<br /> <br /> == Moving assistance. ==<br /> <br /> Hey GreenReaper,<br /> <br /> Thanks for the help moving the page for my listing. I was woundering if it should have been moved over as you did, but didn't have time IRL to send a message. The dire warning kinda steared me off. (I figured I would mess around with my own page before messing up some one elses =)<br /> <br /> :No problem! A lot of people start off in the User: namespace, as that's where you would normally do it on (e.g.) Wikipedia. <br /> <br /> Let me know if I'm misplacing anyother articles so we can keep the database as consistant as possable! (Or if you have any other suggestions)<br /> <br /> :I'm sure I or another contributor will let you know should that be the case. :-)<br /> <br /> I hope the format of the post is accaptable. I wrote the thing in third person as if I was writing about someone else. Thanks again - PG<br /> <br /> :That was fine. Feel free to edit your User: page if you want to say something from first-person persepective in addition to that which is already there (but don't feel you have to - most people are just fine with what's on the page about them already). --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 03:02, 7 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thanks ==<br /> <br /> Thank you for the kind welcome. Though I've been active on Wikipedia forever (and I'm admin there), I've only just discovered wikifur today. I'm happy to help out in any area that needs it, and I've already added stubs for [[Wild Life]] and [[Wildlifers]]! [[User:Starblind|Andrew Lenahan]] - &lt;b&gt;&lt;FONT COLOR=&quot;#FF0000&quot;&gt;St&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT COLOR=&quot;#FF5500&quot;&gt;ar&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT COLOR=&quot;#FF8000&quot;&gt;bli&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT COLOR=&quot;#FFC000&quot;&gt;nd&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/b&gt; 15:43, 7 April 2006 (PDT)<br /> <br /> :Excellent . . . *scoops up some cover pics for those* --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 23:27, 7 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==View counts==<br /> I've noticed that the view counts in [[:Special:Popularpages]] have not updated at least since last Thursday on several articles I've been following, even though I've viewed some of those articles myself during that time. I've verified this from two different computers and used a couple of other tricks to make reasonably certain it's not a browser cache issue. What gives?<br /> <br /> Edit: There are also several hundred articles that currently show 0 views.<br /> --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 14:23, 10 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Yes. I had a chat with the admins and apparently they had to discontinue popular pages updating due to server loads. We can get the same sort of information from the google analytics stats, so it's no ''great'' loss, although it is a pity that people can't access that without talking to me first.<br /> <br /> :As this makes the page rather useless, I've removed the link in the main page header and added in links to the article and user talk pages instead. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 16:29, 10 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Re my WikiFur entry ==<br /> <br /> Just noticed that you had stuck in an unwritten link from the Kay Shapero entry for the Anthropomorphic Literature and Arts Association. I had deliberately NOT put a link there, because the ALAA exists to produce the Recommended List and present the Ursa Major awards, both of which have links right after the reference. So I figured it would be superfluous. What do you think? I could probably write an entry, but it'd only be a couple of lines long and probably wouldn't contain much you can't find out from the other two links. --[[User:Yealurowluro|Yealurowluro]]<br /> <br /> :(I'm not GR, but we never have a shortage of opinions around here! :-) Actually, even the small amount of information you mention would be useful, if only to define the parametes of the organization and to show that it is independent of any other organization out there (when I first saw mention of ALAA, I erroneously conflated it with [[AAE]], which is a different beastie entirely). ----[[User:DuncanDaHusky|DuncanDaHusky]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:DuncanDaHusky|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 00:28, 11 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :That's basically why I put it in there (also because I rememebered it was linked in [[Ursa Major Awards]]). If you really don't think it should have an entry, take it out, but as Duncan mentions, [[Anthropomorphic Arts and Education]] seems to do well enough. It's a short page, but it gives a link to the organization, and as it is a separate page it can be put into [[:Category:Organizations]] which helps us keep a tab on all such organizations. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 03:19, 11 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==To Stub or Not to Stub?==<br /> Is there a guideline as to when a short article (which just doesn't have much to say) doesn't need to be tagged as a stub? 1000 bytes, etc.? Wouldn't stop anyone from dropping in to make changes anyway. Just curious. --[[User:Frizzy|Frizzy]] 23:11, 14 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I usually go by the rule of whether I feel there's anything that ought to be added (but that I'm not sure about or don't know or don't feel like putting in right now). -- [[User:Siege|Siege]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:Siege|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 05:02, 15 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The general rule is &quot;if there is probably something that could be added fairly easily by someone who doesn't know much about the topic&quot; (say with a few minutes of google searching) then it is a stub. If not, then it is not a stub, although if you can describe it entirely in a couple of lines, it is probably a strong candidate for merging with another article. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 08:04, 15 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Categorization?==<br /> Thanks for the quick feedback! I was looking through WikiFur's [[:Help:Furry_Book_of_Style|style guide]] and had another question: Are there any guidelines on category order at the end of articles? I was going through alphabetically, but it might be helpful to define this in the style guide if there's a prefered order to doing this. --[[User:Frizzy|Frizzy]] 19:10, 16 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Technically any order is fine. In practice, for articles about people I've tended to do People and then subcategories of People (note that we only do this category + subcategory thing with people so as to get a full listing in that category), and then their location and year of birth/death. In general I would put the most important or relevant category first, but that's just a personal style. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 20:44, 16 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::What you describe is what I've been doing, GreenReaper. I described it in some detail over at [[:Category_talk:Root]]. -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 21:37, 16 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Requesting page protection ==<br /> <br /> How do I go about requesting my page to be locked so that only myself and administrators can edit it? --[[Banrai|Banrai]]<br /> <br /> :You just did. I'm at work right now so I can't really look that closely to ensure it's appropriate, but I will later this evening.<br /> <br /> :Be aware that &quot;your page&quot; is [[User:Banrai]]. [[Banrai]] is &quot;the page about you&quot;. As such it is expected to be reasonably complete, and I do find it odd that there is no mention or reference to the actions mentioned in a certain LiveJournal entry that comes up when searching for your name. What's past is past, and it is important not to dwell on it, but it does deserve recording so that people understand how things ended up as they are today (and so we don't get complaints on the talk page from people who think things are being hidden). I will try and see about that tonight as well. I'm not a concerned party other than ensuring the accuracy of the article, and I don't particularly want to raise any drama about it, so fear not - it'll be brief.<br /> <br /> :Oh, and just something I noticed glancing over the page - you only need to link to other articles the ''first'' time a linkable name comes up, not every time. It's assumed that people will already have clicked on the link if they want to go to it. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 15:04, 19 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I added a small blurb about... that. But feel free to edit it as you see fit. It's a very personal preferance that the article itself not actually be linked, since it IS over and done, but.. yeah, you're the mod. I also went back in and fixed the massive-linking, so it looks a little cleaner now. ;3 --[[User:Banrai|Banrai]]<br /> <br /> :::I've not linked it. Instead, I spent a while reading various sources, then tried to give a summary of your actions, the context behind them - part of which was already evident in previous sections - and the response from others, without turning it into a duplicate of that post (or another [[Sibe]]). I think it says all that needs to be said about that without taking up too much of the article. If people really want to know more, I'm sure they can find out for themselves - but I suspect for most it is enough that they will not feel the need to do so.<br /> <br /> :::As for your request, the article seems a good one as it stands. I will post a notice on the talk page, and unless there is significant dissent from the WikiFur community I will enable the page protection within a day or so. If at a later point you decide that you no longer want the page protected then any admin can help you remove it at request. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 06:35, 20 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Repeated vandalism and blocking ==<br /> <br /> I've just blocked an IP for what I now see is repeated vandalism. ([http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special:Log&amp;type=block&amp;page=User:70.180.173.165 Three incidents so far].)<br /> Do we have an understood point where we block for longer periods, or infinitely? -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 03:20, 21 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I would say go up by one category per repeated offense - hours, days, weeks, months, years (or forever). If all they do is vandalism feel free to skip a step. We're not Wikipedia, we've not really got time to deal with trouble again and again. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 03:32, 21 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Vandal IPs found<br /> <br /> 69.210.142.84 and<br /> 68.202.53.196<br /> They were found posting images of the vandalism in /b/<br /> <br /> == Questions about Des Lee? ==<br /> <br /> Hey there! Thought I'd drop a line and see if I could answer any questions you might have about Desiree. I set up a basic entry for her awhile ago, but I'd noticed you had a question or two concerning her on my page. Anyway, if I can be of assistance, let me know! Thanks!<br /> <br /> :Note [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Jim_Hardiman&amp;curid=3935&amp;diff=53558&amp;oldid=50672 my recent edit] and comment on the [[Talk:Jim Hardiman|talk page]], but I'll carry over here and say that I think the question was about those quote-marks around &quot;friend&quot;. -- [[User:Siege|Siege]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:Siege|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 20:30, 22 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Yep, replied on the talk page. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 21:24, 22 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Edit patrols ==<br /> <br /> It's about this time that I think bringing back the &quot;patrol this edit&quot; marker may be a good idea. It just has to be explained clearly: &quot;These markers are for admin to make rounds of patrols through the various edits,&quot; and so forth. I'd also like to suggest a proxy banlist which is shared across Wikia. That way, once a proxy is confirmed, all wikis have the option of automatically banning it. -- [[User:Siege|Siege]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:Siege|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 06:24, 26 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I would support the creation of a shared proxy banlist with all of Wikia. Is there a feature for this currently in mediawiki or would it have to be added through some sort of module? -- [[User:DeVandalizer|DeVandalizer]] 06:33, 26 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :This might be a good idea. We are getting a lot of edits - certainly more than I manage to have the time to look at, let alone edit. We can probably try enabling it for a time.<br /> <br /> :I think there is actually a proxy blacklist. We may be using a service, in which case it probably doesn't get everything. JasonR on the live chat would be the perosn to talk to about that (or he's available via technical at wikia dot com, or the wikia-l mailing list, or the wikia LiveJournal). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 08:12, 26 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thanks for the Welcome! ==<br /> <br /> I was figuring it would come at some point or another. Very much appreciated. :) [[User:Bastique|Bastique]] 13:00, 27 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Database error on page move ==<br /> <br /> I was attempting to move [[Art Show]] over its redirect [[Art show]] (note the caps - one is the name of a show, the other is a type), and I received this error:<br /> <br /> :A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was: <br /> ::&lt;tt&gt;UPDATE `wikicities`.`gpage` SET page_namespace = '0',page_title = 'Art_show' WHERE page_namespace = '0' AND page_title = 'Art_Show'&lt;/tt&gt;<br /> :from within function &quot;&lt;tt&gt;Database::update&lt;/tt&gt;&quot;. MySQL returned error &quot;&lt;tt&gt;1062: Duplicate entry 'furry-0-Art_show' for key 2 (paris.wikia.com)&lt;/tt&gt;&quot;.<br /> <br /> Would you mind passing this on to the Wikia folks? Looks like the parser is missing the routine which checks for a page/redirect/whatever under the name being moved to. Thanks. -- [[User:Siege|Siege]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:Siege|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 10:13, 28 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Hi Back. ==<br /> <br /> This is a bit awkward, but I think this is the right way to do it. I'm looking over a variety of articles to see what I can add to. I lengthened Ken Fletcher's piece a little -- he deserves more, but it's hard to do him justice, even knowing him fairly well. (Ken is modest to the point of humility.) Kevin Duane's piece broke me up. I could add 10,000 words, but wouldn't know where to start. And do I want to make him out a clown, a villain, a well-intentioned schlemiel, or just a guy who got a lot of bad breaks? Then there was Steve Martin. Another perplexing case. I had to add a bit more detail to the &quot;controversy&quot; section, that put the customs debacle in a somewhat better light.<br /> <br /> Ah... I wonder what other delights await? --[[User:Taral Wayne|Taral Wayne]]<br /> <br /> :It can be hard. Pages [[Sibe|can and have]] been written about [[Banrai#Past disputes|past disputes]], but in the end the actual situation can usually be boiled down to just a few paragraphs written in a fairly dry tone. If in doubt, just add the facts, and try to make sure you don't leave out any facts in a way that could be viewed as biased by not giving reasonable coverage of all sides of the story. If you think you're up to writing a more lengthy piece, and you think it is appropriate for the article concerned, [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Be bold in updating pages|be bold]] and do so. Wikipedia has [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Neutrality|lots of advice]] on how to go about this.<br /> <br /> :Whatever you do decide to add, thank you for taking the time to do so. WikiFur relies on the contributions of those who know the full history of events, and in many cases there are only a few people in the world who do. Hopefully this project will go some way towards ensuring that the history of the fandom doesn't fade away, as I think that would be a shame.<br /> <br /> :Oh, and note that you can sign comments on talk pages with &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~, or just ~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt; if you want to do it without the date. There's no need to do so on the main article pages, as they're intended to be community work anyway (and a full history of contributions is kept in the history tab if it's required). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 10:02, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I think I'll just leave the Kevin Duane item as it is. While there's a hundred times more, it isn't really that important, and what's there is probably impartial enough. Though I doubt very much Kevin would own up to much on the negative side of the ledger.<br /> <br /> ::By the way, what would keep him from editing out everything he didn't like, and painting a glowing picture of himself?<br /> <br /> :::Nothing. However, he'd probably find such edits mysteriously changed back a few minutes later. Some people around here tend to watch [[Special:Recentchanges|recent changes]] like a hawk and can very quickly pick up on editors who are trying to modify history, especially their own. There are [[WikiFur:Personal information|established procedures]] for requesting the removal of certain items of personal information. Blanking or removing information without comment do not count, and won't have the desired effect. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 10:20, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Hello ==<br /> <br /> Hi, thanks for the welcome! I just have to say that I'm very impressed by the speed at which the articles are updated :)<br /> <br /> --[[User:MrZebra|MrZebra]] 10:16, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Glad you like it! We aim to please. ;-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 10:20, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thanks for the assistance ==<br /> <br /> Thank you for loading a higher-resolution picture for me. I appreciate that. And thanks for the welcome as well. :)<br /> <br /> --[[Equestrian]]<br /> <br /> == Asking your permission ==<br /> <br /> Would it be okay with you to upload [http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/Image:Taxidermy.gif this image] to wikifur? It is an animated gif of scenes from the CSI furry episode. It's 1.8MB so I'm obviously not going to risk spending the long time uploading it if it gets deleted and I'm hoping somebody else will do it. If that is not acceptable, would a link to it in the CSI article be allowed? There's no pressure if you don't agree with these. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 05:43, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I probably wouldn't delete it. It is not the best pictoral representation of the whole show, though. The animation tells a story, but it is not the whole story about the show, just as the show does not tell the whole story about the fandom. Its [http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/Taxidermy purpose on ED] was to promote [[fursecution]] (to whit, the conversion of furries into trophies and rugs) and the selection of passages in the animation is limited to those supporting that argument. I believe that a small selection of screen captures from various points in the show added by use of the &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;gallery&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt; tag (see [[The Forest]] for an example) might be a better addition to the article.<br /> <br /> :Another thing to consider - if it takes you a long time to upload it, it will take a long time for many of our contributors to download it as well. 2Mb pages are not really a good idea. This suggests that a link to the animation would be more appropriate, with a note of the file size for those on modems. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 07:54, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::About size, I see so many websites designed where the only way you can view them is flash. I don't know what the deal with that. The real size getter is YTMNDs where each one is huge and often a copy of several other ones with just a tiny change. You know you're actually a pretty cool person (and probably same for others here) compared to the wikipedia furry community where any mention of furries that isn't in their &quot;furries never yiff, or dress in custumes more than bunny ears, and all furries are heterosexual, and there are the same number of male and female furries&quot; propoganda means a witchhunt and I think it's one of the reasons why encyclopedia dramatica has all the anti-furry stuff--and the site says somewhere it's the denial of some furry aspects that get them made fun of----that can be compared to how the site doesn't make fun of star wars / star trek nerds with more than a small amount. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 10:51, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Flash is not the most ideal system for web user interfaces (although it does have enviable compatability compared to things like JavaScript). I won't go so far as to say that Flash has no place. It is a good system for the delivery of multimedia content. We tend to link to that rather than host it, though. :-)<br /> <br /> :::It is true that people are sometimes overly defensive. However, at the same time, some have good reason - there [http://forums.hatersonline.com/viewtopic.php?t=164 really are] &quot;furry haters&quot; for which it is a hobby to just go out there and spread the message that furries suck. Most of them don't actually ''know'' anything about the fandom, participate in any of the events, or contribute anything - they're just having fun putting other people down. I'm more than willing to accept criticism from people like [[Nothingkat]], who at least knows what he's talking about. And . . . well, I've not heard people make the above assertions before. I'm sure a lot of people say &quot;not all furries yiff, not all dress up in fursuits, not all are gay and furries are not all male&quot;, but there's a big difference between that and utter denial.<br /> <br /> :::As for Wikipedia, you have to remember that the purpose of their project (as ours) is to '''make an encyclopedia''', ''not'' to make fun of people. The [[Wikipedia:furry fandom|furry fandom]] article already has five whole paragraphs on sexual activities. I think that gives readers a fairly good idea of the extent of sexual content in the fandom. When you get [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Furry_lifestyler&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=51228054 edits] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Furry_Wikipedians&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=51070460 like] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Furry_fandom&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=50860121 these], it is very easy to see why a lot of them get reverted.<br /> <br /> :::ED would have furry stuff on it regardless, I am sure. After all, we already own [[LiveJournal]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 01:32, 6 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Thanks!==<br /> Thank you for your barnstar award, I appreciate your recognition. I have found in recent weeks just how difficult it is to start a Wika, and it's always nice to have someone appreciate the work. While I still need to read up on the goals and concept of this Wiki, I'm a big comic book fan and can hopefully help with some new content. You can contact me at my [http://oc.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Xtreme680 talk page] at [http://oc.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page The O.C. Wikia]. - [[User:Xtreme680|Xtreme680]] 09:33, 6 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==My page got vandalized...==<br /> Apparently it happened today even, suprisinly. Some user going by the name of Clambake....*sigh*. And it has to be somebody with access to aby.com or yiffstar.com, because that's the ONLY place I've posted the picture used with even a slight bit of public access. --[[User:lucashoal|lucashoal]] 3:40 PM, May 9 2006 (EST)<br /> :I will say that the staff already reverted the edits made to your page. The image, though I have not seen it, was already deleted. ----[[User:Markus|Markus]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:Markus|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 23:41, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Indeed. [[User:DuncanDaHusky|Duncan]] was pretty quick on the ball!<br /> <br /> ::I find it odd that you were able to revert their work so quickly - according to [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Luca_Shoal&amp;curid=651&amp;action=history the history], just four minutes passed between the picture being uploaded and your reversion. How did you know that they had posted the picture there? --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 00:23, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I just decided to log in today to see if anyone had left me a note, or made any changes to my page. And seeing the picture, well... It was a matter of luck really. I know it seems....fishy, but I honestly had no way at all of knowing this edit had taken place.<br /> :::As for the picture? It was a picture of me, not just Luca, but me in the real world. Specifically, it was one taken at a babyfur party, and in a pink dress.<br /> :::Thank you though for everything ^^. [[User:Lucashoal|Lucashoal]] 9:03 PM, May 9 2006 (EST)<br /> <br /> ::::'''*grins*''' - well, you were fortunate, then. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 05:04, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Interesting article on this whole problem in [http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/17/technology/17wiki.html The New York Times] (Growing Wikipedia Revises Its 'Anyone Can Edit' Policy) -- although the article is about &quot;big&quot; Wikipedia the principles and concerns probably still apply. --[[User:Auliya|Auliya]]<br /> <br /> :Yes. We have the same features here, and have used them, though they too affect only a small proportion of our pages. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 15:46, 19 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Transformation ==<br /> <br /> I'm reasonably sure that [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Transformation&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=57531 this] is actually correct, if badly formatted and perhaps not completely relevant to this wiki. See [http://metamedia.stanford.edu/traumwerk/index.php/More%20Dragons%20in%20Northumbria here] for the rhyme. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 18:45, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I did get a indeed get a positive hit for the rhyme, but Google turned up nothing relevant for Lanelet, Elidia, Zaikhoeven, or &quot;Duncan Frasier&quot; and &quot;Robert Lambe&quot;. I tried several different spelling variants and still came up with nothing. Now, I'm willing to grant that Google is not actually the sum of ''all'' knowledge, but the lack of hits and the near-unreadability of the edit makes me suspicious. ----[[User:DuncanDaHusky|DuncanDaHusky]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:DuncanDaHusky|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 18:55, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Duncan Frasier is cited as the author of the rhyme in the above link. Robert Lambe is likely to be [http://www.exploreberwick.co.uk/ArtsInBerwick/Legends/3_03.htm this guy].<br /> <br /> ::There does seem to be some confusion in online sources about who wrote the item and when it was written. Don't suppose you know any medieval historians? :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 19:10, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I've done some further research and I think I see the problem: it's written in the arcane and byzantine languange of ''academese'', a language I'm afraid I lost my fluency in years ago (and besides, I only ever spoke technical academese - I think it relates to Liberal Arts academese like Classical Latin to Vulgate Latin :-) I'll warrant that it was a valid edit, but written so impenetrably I would question its value. I've found a couple of useful links that might help; I'll probably poke at it a bit more tonight.----[[User:DuncanDaHusky|DuncanDaHusky]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:DuncanDaHusky|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 19:17, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : 1. I am able to translate this. It's pretty much just a load of academic-paper-filling bull, and says very little of relevancy to our wiki.<br /> : 2. Here, lemme take a whack at rebuilding that section.<br /> : -- [[User:Siege|Siege]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:Siege|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 23:32, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thank you ==<br /> <br /> Thank you for fixing my first upload :D I just joined and I'm still trying to get used to it all. I hope I atleast put THIS post in the correct place.<br /> <br /> :'''*grins*''' - yep, you just need to sign it! You can use &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt; to do that (or &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt; if you don't want to put the date). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 05:16, 13 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Howloween Template ==<br /> <br /> Are there any plans to create a Howloween convention template? Howloween is a convention held in British Columbia, during Late October : [http://www.howloween.org Howloween 2006 Website]<br /> <br /> :If you want one, just copy the contents of any existing convention templates to [[Template:User Howloween]] and change accordingly, then create the appropriate category and make it a subcategory of [[:Category:Wikifurries]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 00:36, 15 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Thank you so much. I shall try that. ^_^ --{{UT|Seamora}}<br /> <br /> == Terms with Multiple Definitions ==<br /> <br /> What is commonly done with terms that have more than one definition? Do they have separate pages, and if so , how does one do this?--{{UT|Seamora}}<br /> <br /> :Short answer - it depends! Long answer follows . . .<br /> <br /> :If the terms are related, but with differing nuances, then you might discuss them on the same page. For example, [[yiff]] has many meanings, but they are all related to a reasonably close degree, so they are all described on the same page. In general, you can tell &quot;reasonably close&quot; by the categories - if separate meanings would all fall under the same category then you would probably discuss them together (except people, who always have different articles).<br /> <br /> :Some terms have numerous unrelated meanings. In this case we divide it into separate pages with a qualifier in lowercase [unless a proper name] and inside parenthesis, and then create what is called a [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Disambiguation|disambiguation page]] for people who link to the term without parentheses. The page should have the &lt;tt&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;{{disambig}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/tt&gt; tag at the bottom. If another topic has the name within it, and a shorterned form might conflict, it is given the full title but also included in the disambiguation page.<br /> <br /> :You can see this at [[The Bestiary]], which links to [[The Bestiary (playing cards)]] and [[The Bestiary (comic)]] (which we know exists, just hasn't yet been written about) but also to ''[[The Bestiary's Terrie Smith Does Art Special]]''.<br /> <br /> :We may also make an indented, italic link at the top of the pages if there is possible confusion or the other article is somehow relevant, something like this (for a person called &quot;Delight&quot;):<br /> <br /> :&lt;tt&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;&quot;:''This article is about the [[:Category:People|person]]. For the chocolate bar, see &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Delight (chocolate bar)]].''&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/tt&gt; (or: &lt;tt&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;&quot;There is also a [[Delight (chocolate)|chocolate bar called Delight]].&quot;)&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/tt&gt;<br /> <br /> :In the case where one thing is clearly the more usual or &quot;official&quot; term, but there is another term that should have a different article, like [[skunk]] or [[Eurofurence]], then the general term is used without parentheses and the other term(s) have parentheses or are otherwise made different. We use the above method to link between them.<br /> <br /> :In rare cases, it may also be appropriate to add a parentheses even if there is currently no article at the non-parentheses term. This is done where there might be confusion about what the article should be about. For example, ''[[Furre!]]'' has links to [[Persona Play (Furre!)]] and [[Roleplay (Furre!)]]. This is because the term Roleplay has a special meaning in the context of ''Furre!'', and so it should not link to the main [[role-playing]] article, which has a redirect from Roleplay. For consistency, Persona Play has the same qualifier, even though there is not likely to be another article called Persona Play as it is at term that is specific to Furcadia/Furre!.<br /> <br /> :Deciding what to do in a particular case is sometimes tricky, but it is usually simple once you have done it a few times. Hope the above helps! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 08:41, 15 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thank you! ==<br /> <br /> Heya GreenReaper!! <br /> <br /> The page looks great, hun! Thanks for editing it a bit for me! There are also more WikiFur pages about me including Xelaros and Spirit Creations. I see that you guys don't have a page up for Maned Wolves which I would like to create. Thanks for your help! Give me suggestions any time!<br /> <br /> Inali Ke'aloha<br /> <br /> == Maned wolf page up! ==<br /> <br /> Heya, just wanted to let you know that I created a page about maned wolves since there wasn't one. It could use some editing, such as a contents box and the pictures off to the side. Thanks! --[[User:InaliKealoha|Inali]]<br /> <br /> :Well, it looks like you figured all that out! I moved it to [[Maned Wolf]] because it is a proper name of a species. The contents box will automatically appear if you have four headers in the article. If you do not (or to move it), you can make it appear by adding &lt;nowiki&gt;__TOC__&lt;/nowiki&gt; wherever you want. I sometimes put this inside a div tag that is set to float to the right. You can also hide it with &lt;nowiki&gt;__NOTOC__&lt;/nowiki&gt;.<br /> <br /> :One question ''I'' have, though - do you have permission from the people who made those pictures to put them on this site? While I appreciate that you wish to improve the articles, it is not enough to just state who owns the copyright of an image - if you do not have explicit permission (either by having asked them or through a blanket license or copyright wavier), we cannot display the images. That's what copyright means, after all . . . the right to make copies. Both the [http://www.arkgallery.org/ Ark Gallery] and Kenneth W. Fink/Root Resources sources appear to be non-free in this respect (indeed, the Ark Gallery seems to have a specific note at the bottom saying that images are not for reproduction elsewhere).<br /> <br /> :Oh, and one last thing - on talk pages, it's easier to know who's talking if you sign your name at the end. You can do this by typing &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt;, or just &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt; to do so without adding the date and time. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 03:13, 16 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I will email them and ask permission. If I can't get it from them, I'll ask some others until I get written permission. Where do I post that I have written permission when I get it? Thanks!<br /> <br /> [[User:InaliKealoha|InaliKealoha]] 05:22, 16 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :You should put the permission on the image information page, the one that comes up when you click on the image. You can edit it just like any other page. If you fail to gain permission for those images, let myself or another administrator know, and we will delete it from the WikiFur image store. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 14:04, 16 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I very strongly feel that we should delete the images; they can be uploaded again if permission is given. -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 16:16, 16 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Then do so. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 19:08, 16 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Done. Thanks for the confirmation. -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 23:24, 16 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == hi ==<br /> <br /> &quot;Girl's amateur use of makeup by applying too much and her voice make are evidence she is a teenager below the age of eighteen.&quot; That wasn't meant as personal, though. It was more a Sherlock Holmes style detective work. I just want to be clear it was not my intention. I probably wrote it wrong. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 14:10, 21 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :It just seemed . . . well, like something you'd post on LiveJournal rather than in an encyclopedia, in much the same way as you get anti-furries taking pictures of fat people at cons and going &quot;hey, look, aren't furries fat!&quot; - maybe that wasn't your intention, but it was the vibe I got from your words. Her ''own'' words make her look bad enough as it is without pointing out her use of makeup.<br /> <br /> :A secondary consideration is that page is intended to be just a list of links rather than an in-depth discussion of them. If you really want to write up the details (which would probably include details from both videos), you could make an article on it and then link to it, as with the other articles linked from the media links page. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 18:10, 21 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: Hmmm... you have an odd idea of copying the threads of talk and putting it on both talk pages. Well back to the topic, I also forgot the eyebrows were unplucked (I just wanted to write that down somewhere) as giving evidence that she was a minor. I think I'll put likely minor in the article. Umm.. I don't know if it's worthy of an article itself. It mostly is just a webcam video and then speaking of the vanity fair article. It would be different if it went through the things produced by actual furries, like her reaction to furry pornography art, but I think the video looks like little effort was put into it, and the humor was mostly the behavior of the girl herself. Encyclopedia Dramatica and some of the TV spots for instance do put some effort into their work. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 15:16, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I can just see that sequel: &quot;Valley Girl, Furry Porn&quot;. Nuts and berries, indeed! <br /> <br /> :::I actually think there's an opportunity to do a ''good'' video on furries and put it up there. The question would be whether or not anyone would go around with a videocamera at (say) Anthrocon and film it, and whether or not people would agree to its distribution. Maybe if it was done by someone already respected in the community.<br /> <br /> ::::Speaking for Anthrocon, I can tell you that our [http://www.anthrocon.org/rules-conduct Rules of Conduct] prohibit &quot;broadcasting&quot; of any video taken at the convention, which includes posting it online. --[[User:Dmuth|Giza]] 19:25, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::. . . without permission. I was thinking of one that would be done with permission. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 19:44, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::::Based on my experience, furries at cons get very nervous when there is a camera rolling, due to past bad experiences. I wouldn't recommend holding your breath on getting permission to broadcast anything that's filmed. :-/ --[[User:Dmuth|Giza]] 19:54, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::::Alas! On that general topic, it might be nice to do some kind of &quot;WikiFur Documentary&quot; thing. Maybe we could start with topics like &quot;acting out in [[fursuit]]&quot; or &quot;making your first [[tail]]&quot; and work up to tricky topics like &quot;attending a furry convention&quot;. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 19:59, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::::::Do you mean having documentation here on WikiFur, or elsewhere? If it's here on WikiFur, would such an article still be considered &quot;encyclopedic&quot;? --[[User:Dmuth|Giza]] 21:01, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::::::I believe that there is certainly room on WikiFur for material that is created by a particular person or group of people, something like &quot;RandomVulpine's guide to making furry feet&quot;. Some use their own websites for such material, but if people want to put them up on WikiFur then I think we should be open to that. These should naturally be clearly tagged with a template similar to the current [[:Template:personal-article|personal articles]] one, and should be placed in the User: namespace, or possibly a separate namespace designed for the purpose - Tutorial:, say. They could be linked to from regular articles, though it might be good to make a separately-headed section for them to separate them from the regular links that you'd get in ''See also''.<br /> <br /> :::I tend to copy talk because it's easier for other people to follow that way. I also archive my talk now and then, which makes it harder for people trying to follow the other side of conversation. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 18:55, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Off subject, when the game Spore comes out (a design evolution), I expect it may have something for furry gaming. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 15:18, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I agree, though [[Second Life]] seems to have grabbing most of the virtual furry world for now. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 18:55, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Testing... ==<br /> <br /> I notice one or two articles about me and my comics say they need improving. My question is this: How much is too much? I'd like to do my part without overdoing it, ya know?<br /> <br /> :--[[User:GraveyardGreg|Graveyard Greg]]<br /> <br /> :It's hard to do too much. I guess if you found yourself stretching for something to say, then it might be time to stop. Of course, I have a [[GreenReaper|fairly short article]], but then I don't have much to say about myself, as I've not had a long history in the furry fandom. [[Somewolf]] has a rather longer one. Certainly, comics can be and have been covered in significant depth. The ''[[Gaming Guardians]]'' article is a good idea of the minimum length that gives a good coverage of the key aspects of the topic, enough that it was featured, but it would certainly be possible to add to it without compromising that.<br /> <br /> :It is possible to go much farther, of course. For example, Wikipedia has a very extensive article on ''[[Wikipedia:Kevin and Kell|Kevin and Kell]]''. That would be unusual to see here (probably the closest is ''[[Dan and Mab's Furry Adventures]]'', and the plot is hardly covered there), but if people want to go that far on just about any topic it is welcome. We have many relatively short articles through happenstance, not choice. It's not like we're going to run out of paper, after all. :-)<br /> <br /> :The perfect article tells people everything they want to know about a topic. For some topics, this can be a lot. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 04:16, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Species and characters categories ==<br /> <br /> I think all of us will agree that having subcategories for species, and for characters of those species, is a good thing, up to a certain point. But I'm concerned that we may be getting a little carried away with it. Perhaps we're not to the point yet where we've overdone it and need to backpedal on some of the categories that have been created, but I think we're getting close to that point in some areas, and that it would be a good idea to stop and think about how far we want to go with this.<br /> <br /> What do the rest of you think? More species/character categories, or is it time to rein it in? --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 21:24, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I like to think of it as setting the framework for future growth. Although if we start using Latin names, then I think we've gone too far. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 22:42, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I look at it this way: If I'm a casual reader and I'm interested in, let's say, wolf characters. I click on the Wolf characters category and I see a whole bunch of names, plus (in this instance) sub-categories for Artic Wolf characters, Werewolves, and Wolf-Hybrid characters. Am I going to click on the subcategories to find the one or two listings beneath each entry, or ignore them and use the large main list? From a usability standpoint, I'm not sure I see the usefulness of breaking things down to the point where it's only two or three entries in a category.----[[User:DuncanDaHusky|DuncanDaHusky]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:DuncanDaHusky|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 11:54, 26 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Hiya! ==<br /> <br /> Hey there! Thanks for the warm greet. I didn't exactly get to finish last night due to work issues, AND the fact I wasn't completely sure what I was doing (lol) Looks like someone was kind enough to get the basics started for me anyway :-) <br /> <br /> As I learn a little more, I'd really like to be more active in the Wiki community so hopefully you'll see a little more of me ;-)<br /> <br /> <br /> Regards<br /> -=Wulfsige=-<br /> <br /> ==Thanks!==<br /> Thanks man, this is the best Wiki EVER! - MegaKitsune<br /> <br /> == Reply ==<br /> <br /> ' I guess you found your way here from the creatures wiki' <br /> <br /> Sort of, pretty long story. I think I found them both at relatively the same time, when I started using wikipedia. <br /> <br /> Thanks for the friendly welcomes! --[[User:Listeel|Listeel]] 14:32, 30 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Edit buttons ==<br /> <br /> How do you set up an edit button like Wikifur and the Creatures wiki have? I'm also a member at the Sporewiki and want to contribute a button like that for them {{Unsigned|Listeel}}<br /> <br /> :Check out the [[MediaWiki:Monobook.css]] page, in particular the section starting:<br /> <br /> :''/* Create more space to top and left of the section Edit links and put norn in it */''<br /> <br /> :If you copy this and adjust it for your wiki (you will need to change the URL to match the URL of an image uploaded at your wiki or somewhere else) then it should work. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 20:14, 30 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Infobox question ==<br /> <br /> I've been trying to make an Infobox for [[A Fox in the Works]] page with little luck, something like what Wikipedia has for TV series (ie [[Wikipedia:Babylon_5]]. I'm really don't know what I'm doing, and it's something that would probably work better as a template so it can be used for comics and other furry story series.<br /> <br /> I can't find any help on making an infobox like this, and what I try to do comes up more then a bit fragged. Any help would be greatly appreciated. --[[User:Fox Cutter|Fox Cutter]] 05:13, 2 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Probably the best place to start is [[Wikipedia:Template:Infobox|Wikipedia's sample infobox template]], which is relatively simple as they go. The one you mentioned, [[Wikipedia:Template:Infobox Television|Template:Infobox Television]] is indeed hideously complex, in part because it relies on expressions (which are not yet available at Wikia, so it will give hideously mangled results).<br /> <br /> :Start simple. Just copy the template to a blank Template: page here (perhaps [[Template:Infobox]]!), and then try it out on a page. Try modifying various things, trying it out in the preview. Have a look at [[Wikipedia:Help:Template|Wikipedia's template help]]. It is not, unfortunately, very clear, but it starts off with some useful information. Our [[WikiFur:Templates|templates section]] has various ones that definitely work here, which you could copy from as well. If you get stuck, ask for help on a discussion page, saying what you want it to do, and someone will probably lend a hand (and if not, prod me :-). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 06:00, 2 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Wikipedia.org Extinctioners page being considered for deletion ==<br /> <br /> I'm so upset right now because my Extinctioners page at Wikipedia.org is being considered for deletion, if I try and update the one here, will it also be deleted, please let me know in my talk(if it works) --[[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]]<br /> <br /> :On the contrary, we would be glad to have your contributions, as long as the copyright status of the images is satisfactory (either GFDL or another open form of licensing, or permission for use on WikiFur). As you can see on [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Extinctioners|Wikipedia's deletion proposal]], their reasoning is that ''[[Extinctioners]]'' is not sufficiently notable in the general world for an article. WikiFur is all about the furry fandom, so that's not applicable here. Just remember that as with Wikipedia articles are community efforts - after all, you copied the initial article from here - and you should do fine. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 23:51, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Cleanup? ==<br /> <br /> Well, I've finished both the Extinctioners page and the individual character pages but some of them have a clean up not at the top, how can you clean up what little (in some cases) is there? --[[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]]<br /> <br /> :Perhaps they were referring to the manner in which the text was phrased? For example, it might have been written in first-person, when third-person is more appropriate for an encyclopedia. It might also be that formatting was non-standard or that the article was not correctly categorized (we really need to get specific templates for these, right now cleanup is used for everything). You can always ask the person who put the tag on the article what their precise reasoning was. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 00:42, 7 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Horizontal or vertical? ==<br /> <br /> Hey listen, I'm not being a prud but someone named Dmuth has edited some of my character section (I'm not reporting the editing itself) but he caused the multiple pics the stack ontop each other in the right hand side of the screen, I've fixed mos of them, you can see the original ones he did in the jistory section, please let me know what you think of the matter, alright, thank you. --[[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]]<br /> <br /> :I personally think they look better side by side ''in that particular case''. Those pictures happen to be particularly tall, and the fact that there is little text to go with it means that a better use of the space is to have them in a row. Most WikiFur articles have a lot more text in relation to the numbers of pictures, which is why the convention is to have them at the side, or in a combination of side pictures and a gallery as you can see in [[The Forest]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 00:42, 7 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Andorozon pics ==<br /> <br /> The Creator of the Andorozon comics has sent me an e-mail giving me permission to use his picsm how do I forward you the e-mail to get the pics licenced, the pics up already were drawn by Shawntae Howard and were licenced but Ken Singshow is going to send his own pics, what do I do? --[[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]]<br /> <br /> :I would suggest that you just attach a copy of the email giving permission to the [[Talk:Andorozon|discussion page]] of the [[Andorozon]] article. That way everyone who looks at the article. You could also add a note on the image upload description that links to that page (something like &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Talk:Andorozon|permission information]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;).<br /> <br /> :Also, when writing messages on talk pages please sign your name by putting &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt; at the end so we know who's talking and so who to reply to. It's possible to find that information out by looking at the edit history, but it's a lot easier if it's right there. Thanks! :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 15:34, 5 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Heya. I've noticed that the text of Maxwell Manx (Copy Cat) looks to have come from http://www.geocities.com/extinctioners/profile_copycat.html and I assume that's similarly the case for at least some of the other character articles. Could you clarify that for me? I gather we have permission to use the character images here, but I don't remember reference to text descriptions, and I'm ever anxious about copyright concerns. -- Sine 00:29, 7 June 2006 (UTC) <br /> <br /> I understand what you are saying but believe me, I have been given permission from Shawntae Howard himself to use both his pics and text in this and other related articles pertaining to Extinctioners, listen could you give me your e-mail address so I can forward his e-mail of him giving permission or should I talk about this with GreenReaper what should I do?RVDDP2501 01:17, 7 June 2006 (UTC) <br /> <br /> I'd suggest copying the e-mail to the talk page of the Extinctioners article; I've seen similar things here previously. You could certainly check with GreenReaper to confirm the procedure. <br /> It's great that we have all this Extinctioners material to work with, and that you've been so active with it. -- Sine 02:09, 7 June 2006 (UTC) <br /> <br /> (forgive me if you have already said something on this matter, my memory isn't al that good) so EXACTLY what must I do?<br /> <br /> :All we need on the talk page (or on the Licensing section of the image pages) is something to show that a) you have asked to use the author's copyrighted works, on this website or on Wikipedia (which has similar requirements) and b) that he has said yes. This would probably be your initial request to him, and his reply. This should not a general agreement that you can write a wiki page about the topic (you could do that without asking), but something that makes it clear that you intend to use some related parts of his copyrighted works in the pages - as you say, &quot;both his pics and text&quot;. That is the thing that requires permission, because it is his right to allow copies of his work on this site (or not to allow them, as he sees fit).<br /> <br /> :If you have previously asked for specific permission to use parts of his works rather than just writing ''about'' them, then that's fine - just put a copy of that on the page. If not, you should do so. You could point him to the wiki pages that have already been written (including some of the pictures) and ask him if that kind of use is OK. You could also invite him to look at the [http://furry.wikia.com/wiki/WikiFur:Copyrights copyrights page], and/or to contact us directly if he has questions. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 05:12, 7 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Forum ==<br /> <br /> Good timezone. The [[Forum:Index|forums]] are all set up and ready to go. Let me know if you want help changing anything. I added a [[Help:Forums|help page]] but it's a bit basic at the moment, because I'm still figuring out how things work and what we need to know! It will be good to see how it goes. Later -- [[User:Sannse|sannse]] [[Wikia:User talk:Sannse|(talk)]] 13:41, 8 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Hey, man==<br /> <br /> Thanks for the welcome and comments. I got tagged for cleanup for my article, but I'm not exactly sure where I should start looking to clean it up. Any thoughts? --[[User:Réizàr]]<br /> <br /> :You'd have to ask [[User:DuncanDaHusky]] about that, since he tagged it. However, this passage does spring to mind as one example:<br /> <br /> ::''His most noticeable feature is the moon-and-star tattoo on the back of his left hand, but when asked for a meaning, the most one can expect of the enigmatic weretiger is a sliht shrug, not out of rudeness, but because he has yet to find an actual meaning for it beyond something he drew one day in a fit of boredom.''<br /> <br /> :It's an encyclopedia article, not a MUCK character description. It could just as easily be something like &quot;His most noticeable feature is the moon-and-star tattoo on the back of his left hand, which has no inherent meaning.&quot; There's no call to be mysterious about it. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 23:59, 8 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Ah, okay. Odd though; that's been there for a while, and I was referring to myself IRL. I'll look it over though, and think of a way to simplify it. Thanks.<br /> --[[Réizàr]]<br /> <br /> :::That's just an example of something that popped out at me. He might have been looking at at something else. Given the size of WikiFur, not all people will have read all articles, and so they may come across something that they disagree with that they'd also have disagreed with beforehand. They may also have a threshold before they actually do something about it. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 02:00, 9 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Yeah, it's pretty big here. I'll skim over it a few more times and ask Duncan what else he thinks needs to be cleaned up. One of these days I'll get it right. Hah.<br /> <br /> == Furpile ==<br /> <br /> I've noticed that sometimes the [[WikiFur:Furpile|Furpile]] link goes unupdated, so I've been choosing articles for it. Essentially I've been clicking &quot;Random page&quot; until something suitable turns up. I'm only trying to keep it from going empty, so I won't update it further than a day ahead. So if you want to nominate things you still can. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 04:06, 10 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Thanks! As noted on the page, you can choose as many as you like at once, as long as you don't repeat stuff that's coming up or was recently requested. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 05:35, 10 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thanks from the newbie ==<br /> I just want to say thanks for correcting my spelling errors and welcoming me on my first page. Very appriciated! ~[[Kuzzy]]<br /> <br /> == Galciv ==<br /> <br /> I asked you some questions on that wiki. I don't know if you check it often, so I will note it here. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 13:47, 10 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Hmmm you are faster on checking encyclopedia dramatica than here. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 22:20, 10 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Patience. I get watchlist emails everywhere, I just sometimes don't get around to pressing &quot;Save page&quot; until I have had time to give a proper response. It's only just past breakfast here. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 22:22, 10 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :: Hmm watchlists can send emails. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 23:10, 10 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Watchlists can do everything! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 04:06, 12 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Flyers ==<br /> <br /> I forgot your room number already. But I trust that you found my note about the flyers in the meetup page. I even tried looking for you for an hour. That was rather fun. Spot the norn in the furpile. And without a cell number, I couldn't directly contact you.<br /> <br /> Anyway. See you at the meetup! ----[[User:Markus|Markus]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:Markus|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 07:49, 16 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Don't have a cell phone! But yes, we did indeed meetup, so that was OK. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 01:52, 19 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Recent Changes Error? ==<br /> <br /> Recent changes has the following line in it: &quot;Below are the last 50 changes in the last 7 days, as of $3.&quot; I don't think the $3 is intentional, is it? [[User:SpazKitty|Spaz Kitty]]<br /> <br /> :No, you're right - there's been something up with recent changes since the most recent upgrade. There's a bug filed for it on Wikia, it's just rather low-priority right now, especially since it's probably something that will have to be fixed in the main MediaWiki source code tree anyway. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 05:28, 19 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Brillliant Right! ==<br /> <br /> http://www.truechristian.com/furriesa.html<br /> Interesting! Just wanted to see what you guys think.<br /> <br /> :It's good to see such an authoritative and popular site covering the topic! Shame about the colour scheme, but eh, what can you do? --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 17:20, 19 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::How much of that site did you look at? Not exactly the most flattering portayal of furries. If anything, I'm glad they chose a color scheme that makes it look like an amateur rant. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 18:43, 19 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I was being sarcastic. :-) I guess I should have included the ;-) . . . --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 18:46, 19 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Hmm, okay. My bad. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 19:46, 19 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Hello! ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for the warm welcome! ^-^ I thought this was the best way to display our music to the furry community! I'll be sure to ask you if i need help.<br /> Thanks again,<br /> Ether<br /> <br /> == Extinctioners at Answers.com ==<br /> <br /> Hey GreenReaper, RVDDP2501 here, I just found an Extinctioners page (flawed) at Answer.com I told them about the problems and changes they could make, it looks like an original version I had at wikipedia.org (I guess they hadn't checked for updated versions) I also told them about Wikifurs version, they haven't replied yet, so what do you think - http://www.answers.com/topic/extinctioners, I mean I can't believe how my pages are spreading, you know. - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 19:48, 20 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :They are apt to taking the contents of Wikipedia, aren't they? They do that for a lot of other articles as well - it is an automated system. I doubt they will add WikiFur to their list, though it's always a possibility. They will probably update from Wikipedia over the next few months. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 19:55, 20 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> yeah, your probably right, anyways if you have any ideas, suggestion, etc. about making the page(s) better, please let me know, thanks - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 20:32, 20 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thanks ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for the great welcome. If there is anything that I can do to help, feel free to ask.<br /> <br /> ~Nevar<br /> <br /> == regards ==<br /> <br /> Ghear maidth agus :)<br /> thank you for the welcome. I, too, joined since someone created a wiki of me and my fiance. I figured I needed to correct our wikis and make them as unbiased as possible.<br /> <br /> == Hi. ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for welcoming me. I myself am a [[wizard]] at [[Frontier Galaxy MUCK]] so I figured if nothing else, it'd be my duty to correct that '''that''' little entry. Though I'm blindly stumbling through Wiki's system presently, glad I'm only editing and not adding articles, need to read a bit more before I try something like that. (And I would if I didn't have homework for a test, heh!) --[[User:Autolycus|Autolycus]]<br /> <br /> :Well, it's great that you had the time to fix it up - and should you find any more later, feel free to try your hand at making articles yourself. If it looks like you need help I'm sure one of our regular contributors will step in and lend a hand. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 07:01, 25 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Extinctioners improvement ==<br /> <br /> Hey GreenReaper, thanks a whole lot with the list improvement, seriously, thanks, if there is any other ideas on how to make the page(s) better, by all mean, do what you think is right. - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 02:01, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Of course. In this case I just thought it could be a little more compact before I linked it as our comic of the week. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 02:04, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> &quot;comic of the week&quot;? really!, this is just about the comic or the page as well? I don't quite fully understand what you mean? please let me know, thanks - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 02:08, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Look at the bottom left of the front page. Our comics of the week can be based on various criteria, but in this case I featured it because of the extensive coverage on WikiFur. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 02:11, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> oh, ok, I see it, sorry about that, listen I wanna ask you opinion and/or permission on something, I was planning on creating a page for a Extinctioners character called Krystin [http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/26978911/ deviantart.com] but I was not sure if you and/or Wikifur would approve of the pic of the character which IS a bit mature, I did an edit though in which I put a black back covering the &quot;chest area&quot;, do you want me to upload the censored pic without making the caracter page for you to look at and decide as to whether or not it would be appropriate to make the page with the pic? - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 02:52, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Go ahead and upload the original, if it is appropriate for the character. [[WikiFur:What WikiFur is not#WikiFur is not censored for the protection of minors|WikiFur is not censored for minors]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 02:58, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Ok, I just uploaded the pic of Krystin, the pic name is [[:Image:Extinctioners_cast_Krystin.jpg]], please let me know what you think and if I should go ahead with this character's page, thank you - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 03:09, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Seems reasonable enough. Go for it! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 03:19, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Thank you, I though I would do the right thing and discuss this with you first about the pic before I did something that would be disapproved of by you and others at wikifur, I do not like to make mistakes, ok - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 03:22, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Listen, thanks a whole lot for removing the nude pic of Krystin, I got an e-mail from Shawntae Howard saying he would prefer I not use that pic of Krystin due to it being so mature, he said he would send me another one to use in time, so until then, I uploaded the other version of the same pic only now with a black bar covering her chest, ok, thanks for removing those pics, I couldn't figure out how to do it. (God, I hope I haven't pissed him off) - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 22:11, 28 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :No problem. For future reference, you can always overwrite an image with a newer one by uploading a file and specifying the same destination filename, although deleting it entirely requires an administrator (and it is currently an irreversible operation). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 22:15, 28 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I though that was what i had done, I guess I messed up, I'm sorry to do that to you - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 22:18, 28 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I think you did, too - I saw the original had a black bar on it, but perhaps you didn't notice, because soon after you uploaded a (Censored) version as well. [[User:SpazKitty|Spaz Kitty]]<br /> <br /> :I think I know what happened - you uploaded it, but didn't force a refresh by going directly to the image file (not the image page) and pressing Ctrl+F5. Your computer still thought that the image was valid, as it had it cached, so it showed the uncensored version. It's often a problem for new wiki founders who add logos, as it looks like it's not changing, even though it is. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 22:23, 28 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Any ways, long story short, thanks for removing the pic and I hope I don't make the same mistake again, thank you. - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 22:38, 28 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> sorry, forget previous post, prolem fixed itself, sorry - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 17:32, 3 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == (sic) ==<br /> <br /> oh, my bad, man. i didn't know. thanks for telling me :) by the way, that article, [[Wolfie]], isn't about me. <br /> [[User:Wolfie|Wolfie]] 13:41, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Meep ==<br /> <br /> So, uh, I like, decided to add stuff cuz people I knew/knew of weren't on here, and uh.... seems they think I put too much D8<br /> <br /> I -was- careful to put only stuff I knew was publically visible, and I did add a bit more than I thought was needed, cuz I thought anyone concerned with privacy, like say other wiki contributors, would be like &quot;Hmm maybe you should delete that&quot; &lt;br /&gt;<br /> instead of suddenly &quot;OMG stalkers! everywhere! nuuuuu!&quot; o.o;<br /> This really upset me cuz they're people I interact with at least on occasion, and I value their opinion, so having them think I'm crazy(er)... &lt;br /&gt;<br /> I didn't tell anyone cuz I wanted a &quot;professional&quot; distance, if they knew I was doing it... well, &quot;the observer changes the observed&quot;.<br /> <br /> And honestly, I didnt -try- that hard, maybe an hour on each person... after all it's '''wiki''' and can be edited later...<br /> and I was mostly tryin to just sketch their persona since it's in their ART so much y'know ._.<br /> <br /> Anyway I explained myself some on [[Talk:Seel Dingo|Seel's talk page]], because I want to make everyone as happy as possible.<br /> <br /> PS- I'd be willing to have anything I do &quot;depersonalized&quot; but won't do it myself if it makes it look like I'm just covering my ass. Of course, yeah, it's a wiki and past changes can be viewed...<br /> <br /> --[[User:BennuTeomabar|BennuTeomabar]] 16:46, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Don't worry about it. I think the invididual involved is being a little out of line. Basically they're complaining because you reposted some information that was publically available. It seems to me that their worldview is that nobody should be allowed to talk about anybody else. We don't subscribe to that view here. :-) --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 16:55, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Wikifur news ==<br /> <br /> I couldn't figure out how to add a news item. :/ I thought the passing of [[Peter S. Beagle]]'s mother (Peter being the author of The Last Unicorn) might be of note to some furry fans. I just received word from Beagle's newsletter and it pointed to this page ... http://www.conlanpress.com/html/rebecca_beagle.html --[[User:Chibiabos|Chibiabos]]<br /> <br /> :To post a news item, you create the link to the template as you did (preferably in a preview first), then make the page that it links to, and add a link to that page to [[Template:Newsbar]] and the [[WikiFur:Community Central]] page.<br /> <br /> :However, I would have to say that I would not really agree with posting it as news on WikiFur. Wikipedia used to have the somewhat pithy phrase &quot;It's sad when people die, but Wikipedia is not the place to honor them,&quot; and I feel this is true for WikiFur as well. People (particularly the mothers and fathers of the older people in the fandom) die all the time.<br /> <br /> :While the death of a person already relevant to WikiFur just for being in the fandom is a fact that should go on the the page about them, it is not site news. Moreover, all previous news items have been directly related to WikiFur. If it had been someone of major relevance to the fandom I might have thought differently - say, [[Uncle Kage]], or ''maybe'', at a stretch, [[Grandma Kage]] (who is relevant enough to have a page, but not much of one yet). However, we don't even have an entry on Peter yet, let alone his mother. We're not a furry news aggregator, and this doesn't really seem to count as furry news as much as a personal loss. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 23:08, 27 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Multiple edits ==<br /> <br /> I really apologize for all the edits, I'm new to any sort of wiki, so I'm just trying to get it as perfect as possible XD --[[User:Nekonaru Letao|Nekonaru Letao]]<br /> <br /> :It's no real problem. Perfection is an admirable goal to have. :-) Oh, one more tip - you can sign your name on talk pages with &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~, or ~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt; to get the date as well. It helps people reading to see who said what! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 01:50, 29 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Minor Bug on Recent Changes page ==<br /> <br /> Howdy! I just noticed a small bug on the Recent Changes page. At the top of the page (at least according my my preferences), it reads:<br /> <br /> Below are the last 200 changes in the last 7 days, as of $3.<br /> <br /> I'm thinking that that &quot;$3&quot; is a variable that isn't being called correctly. It's obviously a minor thing, but something I thought might be a quick fix if you've got the permissions.----[[User:DuncanDaHusky|DuncanDaHusky]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:DuncanDaHusky|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 16:11, 29 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Yeah. It's been like that since we upgraded to 1.7 alpha. It's a known bug, but it was low priority for the Wikia guys. I'll have a chat with them and see if it's a quick fix. If not, it can be removed by editing [[MediaWiki:Rcnote]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 16:27, 29 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Can you help? ==<br /> <br /> On [[furluminati]], Spirou constantly vandalizes the article, but no matter what I put he reverts me back to his version (and he has not even corrected the grammar/spelling errors in it). I have tried and tried to please him, but I've seen his type and they just revert nonstop as they like--just like willy on wheels likes to move pages to &quot;on wheels&quot; and others like to blank pages, Spirou gets his vandalism high from reverting. I keep trying to please him, but obviously he is just out to cause trouble by revert vandalism. I have put hours and hours into fixing it up and he does not care. Spirou is not here to fix anything, he is just to harass me by reverting anything I do on the article, even fixing his grammar. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 02:37, 30 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I'm guessing GreenReaper is away right now. Have either of you heard of the [[Wikipedia:WP:3RR|three revert rule]] on Wikipedia? I think it can apply here on WikiFur too. I'll block for 24 hours if I see a violation of the three revert rule from either of you. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 03:10, 30 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Spirou will then just revert 3 times a day, but still vandalize. Also on wikipedia reverting vandalism doesn't count toward 3RR. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 03:22, 30 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I was away for a half-hour, but I am back right now. While the three revert rule is not a rule on WikiFur at this time, its rationale is sound. Page edits should not turn into revert wars. I am looking more carefully at the edits made to see what to suggest in this particular circumstance. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 03:14, 30 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Spirou isn't trying to edit, just revert. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 03:22, 30 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::I ''said'', I'm looking. Patience, please. :-) I would also suggest that you focus on the edits, rather than the person behind them. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 03:25, 30 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::His last edit was a revert again, but he changed some words and acted like it wasn't. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 03:28, 30 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> You locked the article on Spirou's version and he's the cause. :( [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 04:10, 30 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Page protection is used to prevent further edits while the situation is delt with. [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Protection policy#A temporary protection is used for:|It does not express]] a preference for the version that happens to be protected. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 04:16, 30 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == What was the killhamster article here? ==<br /> <br /> You said: &quot;I would note that the article about &quot;killhamster&quot;, whose article was used as a reference, was deleted, twice, for being totally full of nonsense added by himself and his friends.&quot;<br /> <br /> I referenced his livejournal and the edit dispute in the LJ was talking about on ED. Umm... did he make an article on wikifur? [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 09:06, 1 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Yes. It was at various times a duplicate of User:Killhamster on ED, and/or random nonsense. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 09:15, 1 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == *Waves.* ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for leaving me a note. I've meant to put the link to the Eurofurence LJ instead of the website, I guess I was distracted when I added &quot;Eurofurence&quot; to the list. :B Sorry.<br /> <br /> :No problem!<br /> <br /> I tried to reply to you using the &quot;send mail&quot; option, but apparently I have to get a confirmation code, and while I tried a couples of times, it never seems to reach me. It's not in my &quot;spam&quot; box either, so I was wondering if something was broken on Wikifur's side, or what should I do.<br /> <br /> :Not sure about that. It should come from jasonr@wikia.com, if that helps.<br /> <br /> ::Okay, I made a research in my mailbox AND spambox, and I've never received any e-mail from this addy. I don't know what's wrong, it just doesn't seem to send me anything when I ask for a confirmation code.<br /> <br /> Also, and this may sound like a very stupid question, but.. I was wondering how to create articles here? I've only found help to edit existing articles; reading the artists pages I noticed some less-well known artists as well, as if they or someone had created a page about them, but I'm not sure the admins themselves did, and I can't find how to start a page from scratch in the help pages. Is it a privilege-thing or did I miss the option or an help page somewhere? Is it related to the fact I haven't entered any confirmation code yet (see first issue in paragraph above)?<br /> <br /> :There are several ways that (I think they're on [[Help:Editing]]) - try to go to a page with the search box and click the red link when you don't find it, make a link in an existing page (or in a preview) and click on it, or just change the URL to the appropriate one and click '''edit this page'''. It is something anyone can do (even anonymous users) and is not related to email confirmation. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 17:12, 1 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Ooh okay, thanks for our help! by the way, do you see my signature when I reply (as in, my username and link to &quot;talk&quot; and such) or do I have to add it manually?<br /> <br /> :::No, you need to add it with &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~ (or ~~~ to just add the name)&lt;/nowiki&gt;. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 16:21, 3 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Person exclusion without current article ==<br /> <br /> Within the last few minutes I've had the misfortune of encountering a situation with which I've had no prior experience -- an unregistered user has removed a single name from the [[:Category:People/People to add]] page. I had reverted the change once and the same IP has made the change again. I've now left a message on their [[User talk:69.231.20.143|talk page]] about removing information without reason and a link to our personal information policy. I then reverted the change again. I think that the specificity of these edits might indicate that this IP is of the person concerned and I would greatly appreciate advice on how to procede if they should decide to edit the page again without providing more information to us. -- [[User:DeVandalizer|DeVandalizer]] 19:19, 1 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :In this specific case, I don't think there's a real problem with removing names on the People to add list. It actually saves time over us having to go through the process of excluding an article later (unless someone makes it via another link). There's not much &quot;information&quot; in just a name. :-)<br /> <br /> :In general, there's no need to tell people they're going to be banned for removing stuff in the first instance, except in very bad situations. [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Assume good faith|Assume good faith]] - chances are, they ''are'' that person, and are just not particularly interested in having an article. Be welcoming, and then you will probably get a better response from that person (and they will have a better impression of WikiFur, so we avoid situations like [http://thefoxes.livejournal.com/26151.html this]). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 20:49, 1 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Please see my response on my [[User talk:DeVandalizer]], I watch talk pages that I edit (no need to copy discussion) :) -- [[User:DeVandalizer|DeVandalizer]] 06:09, 2 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == New Featured Article ==<br /> I wouldn't mind taking over the duty of writing the summary for featured articles for this week. I looked for something to write about but I can't really find any consensus on the featured article candidates page. What articles would you suggest? -- [[User:DeVandalizer|DeVandalizer]] 05:37, 3 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I would suggest that you have a look at some of the [[Special:Longpages|long pages]] and see if there are any on there that have not been featured. Longness in and of itself is not a sign of greatness, but articles should have ''some'' length to be featured, so it's a good start. Once you think you've found a good choice, try to condense the gist of it down into three or four fairly short paragraphs, with appropriate links to other articles, and [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=WikiFur:This_week%27s_featured_article/Week_27%2C_2006&amp;action=edit replace the redirect with it]. Have a look at [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=WikiFur:This_week%27s_featured_article/Week_26%2C_2006&amp;action=edit last week's] examples of formatting and linking. And good luck! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 05:49, 3 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Code error, etc. ==<br /> <br /> Couple of things...One, on both the WikiFur homepage and your talk page, &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;clear:both&quot;/&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt; appears. Two, [[Talk:SCHLITZER]] is a leftover from the Crabs crabs crabs! x 50 vandal that previously redirected to my talk page - not sure if you saw that all the way back in recent changes (I've been boredly busy today XD). [[User:SpazKitty|Spaz Kitty]] 02:47, 4 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I've had a chat with the Wikia admins and this is a temporary error in the MediaWiki version that they are testing. I've replaced it with the equivalent (but working) &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;div style&quot;clear:both&quot;&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt; in those two places. If there are other pages affected, they should be fixed after the testing concludes. It looks like [[User:Sine|Sine]] got the other problem. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 03:38, 4 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Hello ==<br /> <br /> Hi GreenReaper, thanks forleaving a note on my talk page. [[User:Lilim|Lilim]] 04:41, 4 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thanks ==<br /> Thanks for helping me delete the left over pages from the recent vandalism. It's much appreciated :) -- [[User:DeVandalizer|DeVandalizer]] 23:16, 4 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Seemed like a similar pattern to last time. If it happens again I'll get the staff to do a checkuser to get their IP and see if we can do a range block. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 23:21, 4 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Sounds like a good plan. I saw the user page creation in recent changes and I had some inkling something was going to go down -- the pattern was far too similar. -- [[User:DeVandalizer|DeVandalizer]] 23:28, 4 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Google Analytics Stats ==<br /> <br /> Any chance you could sign me up to access wikifur's stats on google analytics? -- [[User:DeVandalizer|DeVandalizer]] 00:00, 5 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Sure, if you tell me your GMail or Google Account address, either here or [[Special:Emailuser/GreenReaper|privately]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 00:02, 5 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::No problem, my gmail account is devandalizer@gmail.com -- [[User:DeVandalizer|DeVandalizer]] 00:06, 5 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Done. You may access the statistics [https://www.google.com/analytics/home/report?rid=52980 here]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 00:10, 5 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::I am in. Thank you. -- [[User:DeVandalizer|DeVandalizer]] 00:14, 5 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Categorization ==<br /> <br /> I'm curious - why remove the [[:Category:Werewolf characters]] from the article about you? We generally apply it to articles about people whose fursonas are the appropriate &quot;species&quot;, although not if there is a separate article about the character under a different name. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 08:06, 15 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I don't feel that the term &quot;Character&quot; applies really. It insinuates that my werewolf side is a fabrication, whereas that is how I see myself spiritually and have done for a very long time.<br /> <br /> :The only characters I have are Thalyi and Boswell, they have always been pure fabrications and are the only ones I &quot;play&quot;. Simply put, I am Graafen.<br /> <br /> :I hope this isn't too confusing. If it's needed then I will replace the category.<br /> <br /> :[[User:Graafen Blackpaw|Graafen Blackpaw]] 15:37, 5 July 2006 (UTC)</div>

Graafen Blackpaw //en.wikifur.com/wiki/User_talk:Graafen_Blackpaw 2006-07-05T15:33:48Z

<p>Graafen Blackpaw: /* Categorization */</p> <hr /> <div>Hi there, Graafen, and welcome to WikiFur! Thanks for telling us a bit about yourself. [[User talk:GreenReaper|Let me know]] if you need any [[help]] not already provided. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 15:10, 9 Dec 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Hey ThalyiFace! ;) Welcome to da wiki! --[[User:Nidonocu|Nidonocu]] - [[User talk:Nidonocu|talk]] [[Image:Trans 168.png|16px|Nidonocu]] 10:57, 15 Dec 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Categorization ==<br /> <br /> I'm curious - why remove the [[:Category:Werewolf characters]] from the article about you? We generally apply it to articles about people whose fursonas are the appropriate &quot;species&quot;, although not if there is a separate article about the character under a different name. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 08:06, 15 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I don't feel that the term &quot;Character&quot; applies really. It insinuates that my werewolf side is a fabrication, whereas that is how I see myself spiritually and have done for a very long time.<br /> <br /> :The only characters I have are Thalyi and Boswell, they have always been pure fabrications and are the only ones I &quot;play&quot;. Simply put, I am Graafen.<br /> <br /> :I hope this isn't too confusing.<br /> <br /> :[[User:Graafen Blackpaw|Graafen Blackpaw]] 15:33, 5 July 2006 (UTC)</div>

Graafen Blackpaw //en.wikifur.com/wiki/User_talk:Graafen_Blackpaw 2006-07-05T15:33:06Z

<p>Graafen Blackpaw: /* Categorization */</p> <hr /> <div>Hi there, Graafen, and welcome to WikiFur! Thanks for telling us a bit about yourself. [[User talk:GreenReaper|Let me know]] if you need any [[help]] not already provided. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 15:10, 9 Dec 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Hey ThalyiFace! ;) Welcome to da wiki! --[[User:Nidonocu|Nidonocu]] - [[User talk:Nidonocu|talk]] [[Image:Trans 168.png|16px|Nidonocu]] 10:57, 15 Dec 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Categorization ==<br /> <br /> I'm curious - why remove the [[:Category:Werewolf characters]] from the article about you? We generally apply it to articles about people whose fursonas are the appropriate &quot;species&quot;, although not if there is a separate article about the character under a different name. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 08:06, 15 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I don't feel that the term &quot;Character&quot; applies really. It insinuates that my werewolf side is a fabrication, whereas that is how I see myself spiritually and have done for a very long time.<br /> <br /> :The only characters I have are Thalyi and Boswell, they have always been pure fabrications and are the only ones I &quot;play&quot;. Simply put, I am Graafen.<br /> <br /> :I hope this isn't too confusing.<br /> <br /> [[User:Graafen Blackpaw|Graafen Blackpaw]]</div>

Graafen Blackpaw //en.wikifur.com/wiki/User_talk:GreenReaper 2006-07-05T15:24:50Z

<p>Graafen Blackpaw: /* Categorisation */</p> <hr /> <div>&lt;!-- You probably want to add stuff at the bottom of this page --&gt;<br /> {{User talk:GreenReaper/Header}}<br /> == Hi you ... ==<br /> Thanks for your welcome!<br /> I only joined 'cause somebody made a wiki page about me ... and in some kind it was wrong. x_x;<br /> So that's all.<br /> <br /> --[[User:Meeko|Meeko]] 01:40, 25 Mai 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Hi, GreenReaper ==<br /> <br /> This is partly a test to see if I've got this editor figured out before I do anything important with it. I notice someone put in an entry for yours truly (in fact that's how I wandered in - I was checking old Other Suns links which led to Nicolai's entry which led to mine) which I may update later; at least I suppose the fact that I was Den Mother of ConFurence for years and am now holding that position in CaliFur is at interesting as anything already there. Also an excuse for putting in a few Ursa Major links inasmuch as I maintain the Recommended List.<br /> <br /> Speaking of which, I got your note suggesting the addition of WikiFur to the Recommended Anthropomorphics list for this year - makes sense, though I'll have to discuss where to put it with the rest of the committee. We're currently counting nominations for this year's Ursa Major ballot.<br /> --[[User:Yealurowluro|Yealurowluro]] 00:58, 6 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Glad you got my note! I wasn't entirely sure if I should suggest it myself, but I figured it's something that's worth reading. :-) <br /> <br /> :It looks like you have the wiki editing figured out. Please do contribute to any articles you find lacking, and good luck figuring out those nominations. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 21:04, 5 April 2006 (PDT)<br /> <br /> == Moving assistance. ==<br /> <br /> Hey GreenReaper,<br /> <br /> Thanks for the help moving the page for my listing. I was woundering if it should have been moved over as you did, but didn't have time IRL to send a message. The dire warning kinda steared me off. (I figured I would mess around with my own page before messing up some one elses =)<br /> <br /> :No problem! A lot of people start off in the User: namespace, as that's where you would normally do it on (e.g.) Wikipedia. <br /> <br /> Let me know if I'm misplacing anyother articles so we can keep the database as consistant as possable! (Or if you have any other suggestions)<br /> <br /> :I'm sure I or another contributor will let you know should that be the case. :-)<br /> <br /> I hope the format of the post is accaptable. I wrote the thing in third person as if I was writing about someone else. Thanks again - PG<br /> <br /> :That was fine. Feel free to edit your User: page if you want to say something from first-person persepective in addition to that which is already there (but don't feel you have to - most people are just fine with what's on the page about them already). --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 03:02, 7 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thanks ==<br /> <br /> Thank you for the kind welcome. Though I've been active on Wikipedia forever (and I'm admin there), I've only just discovered wikifur today. I'm happy to help out in any area that needs it, and I've already added stubs for [[Wild Life]] and [[Wildlifers]]! [[User:Starblind|Andrew Lenahan]] - &lt;b&gt;&lt;FONT COLOR=&quot;#FF0000&quot;&gt;St&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT COLOR=&quot;#FF5500&quot;&gt;ar&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT COLOR=&quot;#FF8000&quot;&gt;bli&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT COLOR=&quot;#FFC000&quot;&gt;nd&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/b&gt; 15:43, 7 April 2006 (PDT)<br /> <br /> :Excellent . . . *scoops up some cover pics for those* --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 23:27, 7 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==View counts==<br /> I've noticed that the view counts in [[:Special:Popularpages]] have not updated at least since last Thursday on several articles I've been following, even though I've viewed some of those articles myself during that time. I've verified this from two different computers and used a couple of other tricks to make reasonably certain it's not a browser cache issue. What gives?<br /> <br /> Edit: There are also several hundred articles that currently show 0 views.<br /> --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 14:23, 10 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Yes. I had a chat with the admins and apparently they had to discontinue popular pages updating due to server loads. We can get the same sort of information from the google analytics stats, so it's no ''great'' loss, although it is a pity that people can't access that without talking to me first.<br /> <br /> :As this makes the page rather useless, I've removed the link in the main page header and added in links to the article and user talk pages instead. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 16:29, 10 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Re my WikiFur entry ==<br /> <br /> Just noticed that you had stuck in an unwritten link from the Kay Shapero entry for the Anthropomorphic Literature and Arts Association. I had deliberately NOT put a link there, because the ALAA exists to produce the Recommended List and present the Ursa Major awards, both of which have links right after the reference. So I figured it would be superfluous. What do you think? I could probably write an entry, but it'd only be a couple of lines long and probably wouldn't contain much you can't find out from the other two links. --[[User:Yealurowluro|Yealurowluro]]<br /> <br /> :(I'm not GR, but we never have a shortage of opinions around here! :-) Actually, even the small amount of information you mention would be useful, if only to define the parametes of the organization and to show that it is independent of any other organization out there (when I first saw mention of ALAA, I erroneously conflated it with [[AAE]], which is a different beastie entirely). ----[[User:DuncanDaHusky|DuncanDaHusky]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:DuncanDaHusky|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 00:28, 11 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :That's basically why I put it in there (also because I rememebered it was linked in [[Ursa Major Awards]]). If you really don't think it should have an entry, take it out, but as Duncan mentions, [[Anthropomorphic Arts and Education]] seems to do well enough. It's a short page, but it gives a link to the organization, and as it is a separate page it can be put into [[:Category:Organizations]] which helps us keep a tab on all such organizations. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 03:19, 11 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==To Stub or Not to Stub?==<br /> Is there a guideline as to when a short article (which just doesn't have much to say) doesn't need to be tagged as a stub? 1000 bytes, etc.? Wouldn't stop anyone from dropping in to make changes anyway. Just curious. --[[User:Frizzy|Frizzy]] 23:11, 14 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I usually go by the rule of whether I feel there's anything that ought to be added (but that I'm not sure about or don't know or don't feel like putting in right now). -- [[User:Siege|Siege]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:Siege|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 05:02, 15 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The general rule is &quot;if there is probably something that could be added fairly easily by someone who doesn't know much about the topic&quot; (say with a few minutes of google searching) then it is a stub. If not, then it is not a stub, although if you can describe it entirely in a couple of lines, it is probably a strong candidate for merging with another article. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 08:04, 15 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Categorization?==<br /> Thanks for the quick feedback! I was looking through WikiFur's [[:Help:Furry_Book_of_Style|style guide]] and had another question: Are there any guidelines on category order at the end of articles? I was going through alphabetically, but it might be helpful to define this in the style guide if there's a prefered order to doing this. --[[User:Frizzy|Frizzy]] 19:10, 16 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Technically any order is fine. In practice, for articles about people I've tended to do People and then subcategories of People (note that we only do this category + subcategory thing with people so as to get a full listing in that category), and then their location and year of birth/death. In general I would put the most important or relevant category first, but that's just a personal style. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 20:44, 16 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::What you describe is what I've been doing, GreenReaper. I described it in some detail over at [[:Category_talk:Root]]. -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 21:37, 16 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Requesting page protection ==<br /> <br /> How do I go about requesting my page to be locked so that only myself and administrators can edit it? --[[Banrai|Banrai]]<br /> <br /> :You just did. I'm at work right now so I can't really look that closely to ensure it's appropriate, but I will later this evening.<br /> <br /> :Be aware that &quot;your page&quot; is [[User:Banrai]]. [[Banrai]] is &quot;the page about you&quot;. As such it is expected to be reasonably complete, and I do find it odd that there is no mention or reference to the actions mentioned in a certain LiveJournal entry that comes up when searching for your name. What's past is past, and it is important not to dwell on it, but it does deserve recording so that people understand how things ended up as they are today (and so we don't get complaints on the talk page from people who think things are being hidden). I will try and see about that tonight as well. I'm not a concerned party other than ensuring the accuracy of the article, and I don't particularly want to raise any drama about it, so fear not - it'll be brief.<br /> <br /> :Oh, and just something I noticed glancing over the page - you only need to link to other articles the ''first'' time a linkable name comes up, not every time. It's assumed that people will already have clicked on the link if they want to go to it. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 15:04, 19 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I added a small blurb about... that. But feel free to edit it as you see fit. It's a very personal preferance that the article itself not actually be linked, since it IS over and done, but.. yeah, you're the mod. I also went back in and fixed the massive-linking, so it looks a little cleaner now. ;3 --[[User:Banrai|Banrai]]<br /> <br /> :::I've not linked it. Instead, I spent a while reading various sources, then tried to give a summary of your actions, the context behind them - part of which was already evident in previous sections - and the response from others, without turning it into a duplicate of that post (or another [[Sibe]]). I think it says all that needs to be said about that without taking up too much of the article. If people really want to know more, I'm sure they can find out for themselves - but I suspect for most it is enough that they will not feel the need to do so.<br /> <br /> :::As for your request, the article seems a good one as it stands. I will post a notice on the talk page, and unless there is significant dissent from the WikiFur community I will enable the page protection within a day or so. If at a later point you decide that you no longer want the page protected then any admin can help you remove it at request. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 06:35, 20 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Repeated vandalism and blocking ==<br /> <br /> I've just blocked an IP for what I now see is repeated vandalism. ([http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special:Log&amp;type=block&amp;page=User:70.180.173.165 Three incidents so far].)<br /> Do we have an understood point where we block for longer periods, or infinitely? -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 03:20, 21 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I would say go up by one category per repeated offense - hours, days, weeks, months, years (or forever). If all they do is vandalism feel free to skip a step. We're not Wikipedia, we've not really got time to deal with trouble again and again. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 03:32, 21 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Vandal IPs found<br /> <br /> 69.210.142.84 and<br /> 68.202.53.196<br /> They were found posting images of the vandalism in /b/<br /> <br /> == Questions about Des Lee? ==<br /> <br /> Hey there! Thought I'd drop a line and see if I could answer any questions you might have about Desiree. I set up a basic entry for her awhile ago, but I'd noticed you had a question or two concerning her on my page. Anyway, if I can be of assistance, let me know! Thanks!<br /> <br /> :Note [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Jim_Hardiman&amp;curid=3935&amp;diff=53558&amp;oldid=50672 my recent edit] and comment on the [[Talk:Jim Hardiman|talk page]], but I'll carry over here and say that I think the question was about those quote-marks around &quot;friend&quot;. -- [[User:Siege|Siege]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:Siege|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 20:30, 22 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Yep, replied on the talk page. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 21:24, 22 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Edit patrols ==<br /> <br /> It's about this time that I think bringing back the &quot;patrol this edit&quot; marker may be a good idea. It just has to be explained clearly: &quot;These markers are for admin to make rounds of patrols through the various edits,&quot; and so forth. I'd also like to suggest a proxy banlist which is shared across Wikia. That way, once a proxy is confirmed, all wikis have the option of automatically banning it. -- [[User:Siege|Siege]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:Siege|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 06:24, 26 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I would support the creation of a shared proxy banlist with all of Wikia. Is there a feature for this currently in mediawiki or would it have to be added through some sort of module? -- [[User:DeVandalizer|DeVandalizer]] 06:33, 26 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :This might be a good idea. We are getting a lot of edits - certainly more than I manage to have the time to look at, let alone edit. We can probably try enabling it for a time.<br /> <br /> :I think there is actually a proxy blacklist. We may be using a service, in which case it probably doesn't get everything. JasonR on the live chat would be the perosn to talk to about that (or he's available via technical at wikia dot com, or the wikia-l mailing list, or the wikia LiveJournal). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 08:12, 26 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thanks for the Welcome! ==<br /> <br /> I was figuring it would come at some point or another. Very much appreciated. :) [[User:Bastique|Bastique]] 13:00, 27 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Database error on page move ==<br /> <br /> I was attempting to move [[Art Show]] over its redirect [[Art show]] (note the caps - one is the name of a show, the other is a type), and I received this error:<br /> <br /> :A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was: <br /> ::&lt;tt&gt;UPDATE `wikicities`.`gpage` SET page_namespace = '0',page_title = 'Art_show' WHERE page_namespace = '0' AND page_title = 'Art_Show'&lt;/tt&gt;<br /> :from within function &quot;&lt;tt&gt;Database::update&lt;/tt&gt;&quot;. MySQL returned error &quot;&lt;tt&gt;1062: Duplicate entry 'furry-0-Art_show' for key 2 (paris.wikia.com)&lt;/tt&gt;&quot;.<br /> <br /> Would you mind passing this on to the Wikia folks? Looks like the parser is missing the routine which checks for a page/redirect/whatever under the name being moved to. Thanks. -- [[User:Siege|Siege]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:Siege|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 10:13, 28 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Hi Back. ==<br /> <br /> This is a bit awkward, but I think this is the right way to do it. I'm looking over a variety of articles to see what I can add to. I lengthened Ken Fletcher's piece a little -- he deserves more, but it's hard to do him justice, even knowing him fairly well. (Ken is modest to the point of humility.) Kevin Duane's piece broke me up. I could add 10,000 words, but wouldn't know where to start. And do I want to make him out a clown, a villain, a well-intentioned schlemiel, or just a guy who got a lot of bad breaks? Then there was Steve Martin. Another perplexing case. I had to add a bit more detail to the &quot;controversy&quot; section, that put the customs debacle in a somewhat better light.<br /> <br /> Ah... I wonder what other delights await? --[[User:Taral Wayne|Taral Wayne]]<br /> <br /> :It can be hard. Pages [[Sibe|can and have]] been written about [[Banrai#Past disputes|past disputes]], but in the end the actual situation can usually be boiled down to just a few paragraphs written in a fairly dry tone. If in doubt, just add the facts, and try to make sure you don't leave out any facts in a way that could be viewed as biased by not giving reasonable coverage of all sides of the story. If you think you're up to writing a more lengthy piece, and you think it is appropriate for the article concerned, [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Be bold in updating pages|be bold]] and do so. Wikipedia has [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Neutrality|lots of advice]] on how to go about this.<br /> <br /> :Whatever you do decide to add, thank you for taking the time to do so. WikiFur relies on the contributions of those who know the full history of events, and in many cases there are only a few people in the world who do. Hopefully this project will go some way towards ensuring that the history of the fandom doesn't fade away, as I think that would be a shame.<br /> <br /> :Oh, and note that you can sign comments on talk pages with &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~, or just ~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt; if you want to do it without the date. There's no need to do so on the main article pages, as they're intended to be community work anyway (and a full history of contributions is kept in the history tab if it's required). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 10:02, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I think I'll just leave the Kevin Duane item as it is. While there's a hundred times more, it isn't really that important, and what's there is probably impartial enough. Though I doubt very much Kevin would own up to much on the negative side of the ledger.<br /> <br /> ::By the way, what would keep him from editing out everything he didn't like, and painting a glowing picture of himself?<br /> <br /> :::Nothing. However, he'd probably find such edits mysteriously changed back a few minutes later. Some people around here tend to watch [[Special:Recentchanges|recent changes]] like a hawk and can very quickly pick up on editors who are trying to modify history, especially their own. There are [[WikiFur:Personal information|established procedures]] for requesting the removal of certain items of personal information. Blanking or removing information without comment do not count, and won't have the desired effect. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 10:20, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Hello ==<br /> <br /> Hi, thanks for the welcome! I just have to say that I'm very impressed by the speed at which the articles are updated :)<br /> <br /> --[[User:MrZebra|MrZebra]] 10:16, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Glad you like it! We aim to please. ;-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 10:20, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thanks for the assistance ==<br /> <br /> Thank you for loading a higher-resolution picture for me. I appreciate that. And thanks for the welcome as well. :)<br /> <br /> --[[Equestrian]]<br /> <br /> == Asking your permission ==<br /> <br /> Would it be okay with you to upload [http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/Image:Taxidermy.gif this image] to wikifur? It is an animated gif of scenes from the CSI furry episode. It's 1.8MB so I'm obviously not going to risk spending the long time uploading it if it gets deleted and I'm hoping somebody else will do it. If that is not acceptable, would a link to it in the CSI article be allowed? There's no pressure if you don't agree with these. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 05:43, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I probably wouldn't delete it. It is not the best pictoral representation of the whole show, though. The animation tells a story, but it is not the whole story about the show, just as the show does not tell the whole story about the fandom. Its [http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/Taxidermy purpose on ED] was to promote [[fursecution]] (to whit, the conversion of furries into trophies and rugs) and the selection of passages in the animation is limited to those supporting that argument. I believe that a small selection of screen captures from various points in the show added by use of the &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;gallery&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt; tag (see [[The Forest]] for an example) might be a better addition to the article.<br /> <br /> :Another thing to consider - if it takes you a long time to upload it, it will take a long time for many of our contributors to download it as well. 2Mb pages are not really a good idea. This suggests that a link to the animation would be more appropriate, with a note of the file size for those on modems. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 07:54, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::About size, I see so many websites designed where the only way you can view them is flash. I don't know what the deal with that. The real size getter is YTMNDs where each one is huge and often a copy of several other ones with just a tiny change. You know you're actually a pretty cool person (and probably same for others here) compared to the wikipedia furry community where any mention of furries that isn't in their &quot;furries never yiff, or dress in custumes more than bunny ears, and all furries are heterosexual, and there are the same number of male and female furries&quot; propoganda means a witchhunt and I think it's one of the reasons why encyclopedia dramatica has all the anti-furry stuff--and the site says somewhere it's the denial of some furry aspects that get them made fun of----that can be compared to how the site doesn't make fun of star wars / star trek nerds with more than a small amount. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 10:51, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Flash is not the most ideal system for web user interfaces (although it does have enviable compatability compared to things like JavaScript). I won't go so far as to say that Flash has no place. It is a good system for the delivery of multimedia content. We tend to link to that rather than host it, though. :-)<br /> <br /> :::It is true that people are sometimes overly defensive. However, at the same time, some have good reason - there [http://forums.hatersonline.com/viewtopic.php?t=164 really are] &quot;furry haters&quot; for which it is a hobby to just go out there and spread the message that furries suck. Most of them don't actually ''know'' anything about the fandom, participate in any of the events, or contribute anything - they're just having fun putting other people down. I'm more than willing to accept criticism from people like [[Nothingkat]], who at least knows what he's talking about. And . . . well, I've not heard people make the above assertions before. I'm sure a lot of people say &quot;not all furries yiff, not all dress up in fursuits, not all are gay and furries are not all male&quot;, but there's a big difference between that and utter denial.<br /> <br /> :::As for Wikipedia, you have to remember that the purpose of their project (as ours) is to '''make an encyclopedia''', ''not'' to make fun of people. The [[Wikipedia:furry fandom|furry fandom]] article already has five whole paragraphs on sexual activities. I think that gives readers a fairly good idea of the extent of sexual content in the fandom. When you get [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Furry_lifestyler&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=51228054 edits] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Furry_Wikipedians&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=51070460 like] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Furry_fandom&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=50860121 these], it is very easy to see why a lot of them get reverted.<br /> <br /> :::ED would have furry stuff on it regardless, I am sure. After all, we already own [[LiveJournal]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 01:32, 6 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Thanks!==<br /> Thank you for your barnstar award, I appreciate your recognition. I have found in recent weeks just how difficult it is to start a Wika, and it's always nice to have someone appreciate the work. While I still need to read up on the goals and concept of this Wiki, I'm a big comic book fan and can hopefully help with some new content. You can contact me at my [http://oc.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Xtreme680 talk page] at [http://oc.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page The O.C. Wikia]. - [[User:Xtreme680|Xtreme680]] 09:33, 6 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==My page got vandalized...==<br /> Apparently it happened today even, suprisinly. Some user going by the name of Clambake....*sigh*. And it has to be somebody with access to aby.com or yiffstar.com, because that's the ONLY place I've posted the picture used with even a slight bit of public access. --[[User:lucashoal|lucashoal]] 3:40 PM, May 9 2006 (EST)<br /> :I will say that the staff already reverted the edits made to your page. The image, though I have not seen it, was already deleted. ----[[User:Markus|Markus]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:Markus|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 23:41, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Indeed. [[User:DuncanDaHusky|Duncan]] was pretty quick on the ball!<br /> <br /> ::I find it odd that you were able to revert their work so quickly - according to [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Luca_Shoal&amp;curid=651&amp;action=history the history], just four minutes passed between the picture being uploaded and your reversion. How did you know that they had posted the picture there? --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 00:23, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I just decided to log in today to see if anyone had left me a note, or made any changes to my page. And seeing the picture, well... It was a matter of luck really. I know it seems....fishy, but I honestly had no way at all of knowing this edit had taken place.<br /> :::As for the picture? It was a picture of me, not just Luca, but me in the real world. Specifically, it was one taken at a babyfur party, and in a pink dress.<br /> :::Thank you though for everything ^^. [[User:Lucashoal|Lucashoal]] 9:03 PM, May 9 2006 (EST)<br /> <br /> ::::'''*grins*''' - well, you were fortunate, then. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 05:04, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Interesting article on this whole problem in [http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/17/technology/17wiki.html The New York Times] (Growing Wikipedia Revises Its 'Anyone Can Edit' Policy) -- although the article is about &quot;big&quot; Wikipedia the principles and concerns probably still apply. --[[User:Auliya|Auliya]]<br /> <br /> :Yes. We have the same features here, and have used them, though they too affect only a small proportion of our pages. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 15:46, 19 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Transformation ==<br /> <br /> I'm reasonably sure that [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Transformation&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=57531 this] is actually correct, if badly formatted and perhaps not completely relevant to this wiki. See [http://metamedia.stanford.edu/traumwerk/index.php/More%20Dragons%20in%20Northumbria here] for the rhyme. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 18:45, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I did get a indeed get a positive hit for the rhyme, but Google turned up nothing relevant for Lanelet, Elidia, Zaikhoeven, or &quot;Duncan Frasier&quot; and &quot;Robert Lambe&quot;. I tried several different spelling variants and still came up with nothing. Now, I'm willing to grant that Google is not actually the sum of ''all'' knowledge, but the lack of hits and the near-unreadability of the edit makes me suspicious. ----[[User:DuncanDaHusky|DuncanDaHusky]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:DuncanDaHusky|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 18:55, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Duncan Frasier is cited as the author of the rhyme in the above link. Robert Lambe is likely to be [http://www.exploreberwick.co.uk/ArtsInBerwick/Legends/3_03.htm this guy].<br /> <br /> ::There does seem to be some confusion in online sources about who wrote the item and when it was written. Don't suppose you know any medieval historians? :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 19:10, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I've done some further research and I think I see the problem: it's written in the arcane and byzantine languange of ''academese'', a language I'm afraid I lost my fluency in years ago (and besides, I only ever spoke technical academese - I think it relates to Liberal Arts academese like Classical Latin to Vulgate Latin :-) I'll warrant that it was a valid edit, but written so impenetrably I would question its value. I've found a couple of useful links that might help; I'll probably poke at it a bit more tonight.----[[User:DuncanDaHusky|DuncanDaHusky]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:DuncanDaHusky|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 19:17, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : 1. I am able to translate this. It's pretty much just a load of academic-paper-filling bull, and says very little of relevancy to our wiki.<br /> : 2. Here, lemme take a whack at rebuilding that section.<br /> : -- [[User:Siege|Siege]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:Siege|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 23:32, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thank you ==<br /> <br /> Thank you for fixing my first upload :D I just joined and I'm still trying to get used to it all. I hope I atleast put THIS post in the correct place.<br /> <br /> :'''*grins*''' - yep, you just need to sign it! You can use &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt; to do that (or &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt; if you don't want to put the date). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 05:16, 13 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Howloween Template ==<br /> <br /> Are there any plans to create a Howloween convention template? Howloween is a convention held in British Columbia, during Late October : [http://www.howloween.org Howloween 2006 Website]<br /> <br /> :If you want one, just copy the contents of any existing convention templates to [[Template:User Howloween]] and change accordingly, then create the appropriate category and make it a subcategory of [[:Category:Wikifurries]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 00:36, 15 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Thank you so much. I shall try that. ^_^ --{{UT|Seamora}}<br /> <br /> == Terms with Multiple Definitions ==<br /> <br /> What is commonly done with terms that have more than one definition? Do they have separate pages, and if so , how does one do this?--{{UT|Seamora}}<br /> <br /> :Short answer - it depends! Long answer follows . . .<br /> <br /> :If the terms are related, but with differing nuances, then you might discuss them on the same page. For example, [[yiff]] has many meanings, but they are all related to a reasonably close degree, so they are all described on the same page. In general, you can tell &quot;reasonably close&quot; by the categories - if separate meanings would all fall under the same category then you would probably discuss them together (except people, who always have different articles).<br /> <br /> :Some terms have numerous unrelated meanings. In this case we divide it into separate pages with a qualifier in lowercase [unless a proper name] and inside parenthesis, and then create what is called a [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Disambiguation|disambiguation page]] for people who link to the term without parentheses. The page should have the &lt;tt&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;{{disambig}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/tt&gt; tag at the bottom. If another topic has the name within it, and a shorterned form might conflict, it is given the full title but also included in the disambiguation page.<br /> <br /> :You can see this at [[The Bestiary]], which links to [[The Bestiary (playing cards)]] and [[The Bestiary (comic)]] (which we know exists, just hasn't yet been written about) but also to ''[[The Bestiary's Terrie Smith Does Art Special]]''.<br /> <br /> :We may also make an indented, italic link at the top of the pages if there is possible confusion or the other article is somehow relevant, something like this (for a person called &quot;Delight&quot;):<br /> <br /> :&lt;tt&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;&quot;:''This article is about the [[:Category:People|person]]. For the chocolate bar, see &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Delight (chocolate bar)]].''&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/tt&gt; (or: &lt;tt&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;&quot;There is also a [[Delight (chocolate)|chocolate bar called Delight]].&quot;)&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/tt&gt;<br /> <br /> :In the case where one thing is clearly the more usual or &quot;official&quot; term, but there is another term that should have a different article, like [[skunk]] or [[Eurofurence]], then the general term is used without parentheses and the other term(s) have parentheses or are otherwise made different. We use the above method to link between them.<br /> <br /> :In rare cases, it may also be appropriate to add a parentheses even if there is currently no article at the non-parentheses term. This is done where there might be confusion about what the article should be about. For example, ''[[Furre!]]'' has links to [[Persona Play (Furre!)]] and [[Roleplay (Furre!)]]. This is because the term Roleplay has a special meaning in the context of ''Furre!'', and so it should not link to the main [[role-playing]] article, which has a redirect from Roleplay. For consistency, Persona Play has the same qualifier, even though there is not likely to be another article called Persona Play as it is at term that is specific to Furcadia/Furre!.<br /> <br /> :Deciding what to do in a particular case is sometimes tricky, but it is usually simple once you have done it a few times. Hope the above helps! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 08:41, 15 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thank you! ==<br /> <br /> Heya GreenReaper!! <br /> <br /> The page looks great, hun! Thanks for editing it a bit for me! There are also more WikiFur pages about me including Xelaros and Spirit Creations. I see that you guys don't have a page up for Maned Wolves which I would like to create. Thanks for your help! Give me suggestions any time!<br /> <br /> Inali Ke'aloha<br /> <br /> == Maned wolf page up! ==<br /> <br /> Heya, just wanted to let you know that I created a page about maned wolves since there wasn't one. It could use some editing, such as a contents box and the pictures off to the side. Thanks! --[[User:InaliKealoha|Inali]]<br /> <br /> :Well, it looks like you figured all that out! I moved it to [[Maned Wolf]] because it is a proper name of a species. The contents box will automatically appear if you have four headers in the article. If you do not (or to move it), you can make it appear by adding &lt;nowiki&gt;__TOC__&lt;/nowiki&gt; wherever you want. I sometimes put this inside a div tag that is set to float to the right. You can also hide it with &lt;nowiki&gt;__NOTOC__&lt;/nowiki&gt;.<br /> <br /> :One question ''I'' have, though - do you have permission from the people who made those pictures to put them on this site? While I appreciate that you wish to improve the articles, it is not enough to just state who owns the copyright of an image - if you do not have explicit permission (either by having asked them or through a blanket license or copyright wavier), we cannot display the images. That's what copyright means, after all . . . the right to make copies. Both the [http://www.arkgallery.org/ Ark Gallery] and Kenneth W. Fink/Root Resources sources appear to be non-free in this respect (indeed, the Ark Gallery seems to have a specific note at the bottom saying that images are not for reproduction elsewhere).<br /> <br /> :Oh, and one last thing - on talk pages, it's easier to know who's talking if you sign your name at the end. You can do this by typing &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt;, or just &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt; to do so without adding the date and time. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 03:13, 16 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I will email them and ask permission. If I can't get it from them, I'll ask some others until I get written permission. Where do I post that I have written permission when I get it? Thanks!<br /> <br /> [[User:InaliKealoha|InaliKealoha]] 05:22, 16 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :You should put the permission on the image information page, the one that comes up when you click on the image. You can edit it just like any other page. If you fail to gain permission for those images, let myself or another administrator know, and we will delete it from the WikiFur image store. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 14:04, 16 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I very strongly feel that we should delete the images; they can be uploaded again if permission is given. -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 16:16, 16 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Then do so. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 19:08, 16 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Done. Thanks for the confirmation. -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 23:24, 16 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == hi ==<br /> <br /> &quot;Girl's amateur use of makeup by applying too much and her voice make are evidence she is a teenager below the age of eighteen.&quot; That wasn't meant as personal, though. It was more a Sherlock Holmes style detective work. I just want to be clear it was not my intention. I probably wrote it wrong. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 14:10, 21 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :It just seemed . . . well, like something you'd post on LiveJournal rather than in an encyclopedia, in much the same way as you get anti-furries taking pictures of fat people at cons and going &quot;hey, look, aren't furries fat!&quot; - maybe that wasn't your intention, but it was the vibe I got from your words. Her ''own'' words make her look bad enough as it is without pointing out her use of makeup.<br /> <br /> :A secondary consideration is that page is intended to be just a list of links rather than an in-depth discussion of them. If you really want to write up the details (which would probably include details from both videos), you could make an article on it and then link to it, as with the other articles linked from the media links page. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 18:10, 21 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: Hmmm... you have an odd idea of copying the threads of talk and putting it on both talk pages. Well back to the topic, I also forgot the eyebrows were unplucked (I just wanted to write that down somewhere) as giving evidence that she was a minor. I think I'll put likely minor in the article. Umm.. I don't know if it's worthy of an article itself. It mostly is just a webcam video and then speaking of the vanity fair article. It would be different if it went through the things produced by actual furries, like her reaction to furry pornography art, but I think the video looks like little effort was put into it, and the humor was mostly the behavior of the girl herself. Encyclopedia Dramatica and some of the TV spots for instance do put some effort into their work. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 15:16, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I can just see that sequel: &quot;Valley Girl, Furry Porn&quot;. Nuts and berries, indeed! <br /> <br /> :::I actually think there's an opportunity to do a ''good'' video on furries and put it up there. The question would be whether or not anyone would go around with a videocamera at (say) Anthrocon and film it, and whether or not people would agree to its distribution. Maybe if it was done by someone already respected in the community.<br /> <br /> ::::Speaking for Anthrocon, I can tell you that our [http://www.anthrocon.org/rules-conduct Rules of Conduct] prohibit &quot;broadcasting&quot; of any video taken at the convention, which includes posting it online. --[[User:Dmuth|Giza]] 19:25, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::. . . without permission. I was thinking of one that would be done with permission. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 19:44, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::::Based on my experience, furries at cons get very nervous when there is a camera rolling, due to past bad experiences. I wouldn't recommend holding your breath on getting permission to broadcast anything that's filmed. :-/ --[[User:Dmuth|Giza]] 19:54, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::::Alas! On that general topic, it might be nice to do some kind of &quot;WikiFur Documentary&quot; thing. Maybe we could start with topics like &quot;acting out in [[fursuit]]&quot; or &quot;making your first [[tail]]&quot; and work up to tricky topics like &quot;attending a furry convention&quot;. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 19:59, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::::::Do you mean having documentation here on WikiFur, or elsewhere? If it's here on WikiFur, would such an article still be considered &quot;encyclopedic&quot;? --[[User:Dmuth|Giza]] 21:01, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::::::I believe that there is certainly room on WikiFur for material that is created by a particular person or group of people, something like &quot;RandomVulpine's guide to making furry feet&quot;. Some use their own websites for such material, but if people want to put them up on WikiFur then I think we should be open to that. These should naturally be clearly tagged with a template similar to the current [[:Template:personal-article|personal articles]] one, and should be placed in the User: namespace, or possibly a separate namespace designed for the purpose - Tutorial:, say. They could be linked to from regular articles, though it might be good to make a separately-headed section for them to separate them from the regular links that you'd get in ''See also''.<br /> <br /> :::I tend to copy talk because it's easier for other people to follow that way. I also archive my talk now and then, which makes it harder for people trying to follow the other side of conversation. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 18:55, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Off subject, when the game Spore comes out (a design evolution), I expect it may have something for furry gaming. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 15:18, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I agree, though [[Second Life]] seems to have grabbing most of the virtual furry world for now. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 18:55, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Testing... ==<br /> <br /> I notice one or two articles about me and my comics say they need improving. My question is this: How much is too much? I'd like to do my part without overdoing it, ya know?<br /> <br /> :--[[User:GraveyardGreg|Graveyard Greg]]<br /> <br /> :It's hard to do too much. I guess if you found yourself stretching for something to say, then it might be time to stop. Of course, I have a [[GreenReaper|fairly short article]], but then I don't have much to say about myself, as I've not had a long history in the furry fandom. [[Somewolf]] has a rather longer one. Certainly, comics can be and have been covered in significant depth. The ''[[Gaming Guardians]]'' article is a good idea of the minimum length that gives a good coverage of the key aspects of the topic, enough that it was featured, but it would certainly be possible to add to it without compromising that.<br /> <br /> :It is possible to go much farther, of course. For example, Wikipedia has a very extensive article on ''[[Wikipedia:Kevin and Kell|Kevin and Kell]]''. That would be unusual to see here (probably the closest is ''[[Dan and Mab's Furry Adventures]]'', and the plot is hardly covered there), but if people want to go that far on just about any topic it is welcome. We have many relatively short articles through happenstance, not choice. It's not like we're going to run out of paper, after all. :-)<br /> <br /> :The perfect article tells people everything they want to know about a topic. For some topics, this can be a lot. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 04:16, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Species and characters categories ==<br /> <br /> I think all of us will agree that having subcategories for species, and for characters of those species, is a good thing, up to a certain point. But I'm concerned that we may be getting a little carried away with it. Perhaps we're not to the point yet where we've overdone it and need to backpedal on some of the categories that have been created, but I think we're getting close to that point in some areas, and that it would be a good idea to stop and think about how far we want to go with this.<br /> <br /> What do the rest of you think? More species/character categories, or is it time to rein it in? --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 21:24, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I like to think of it as setting the framework for future growth. Although if we start using Latin names, then I think we've gone too far. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 22:42, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I look at it this way: If I'm a casual reader and I'm interested in, let's say, wolf characters. I click on the Wolf characters category and I see a whole bunch of names, plus (in this instance) sub-categories for Artic Wolf characters, Werewolves, and Wolf-Hybrid characters. Am I going to click on the subcategories to find the one or two listings beneath each entry, or ignore them and use the large main list? From a usability standpoint, I'm not sure I see the usefulness of breaking things down to the point where it's only two or three entries in a category.----[[User:DuncanDaHusky|DuncanDaHusky]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:DuncanDaHusky|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 11:54, 26 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Hiya! ==<br /> <br /> Hey there! Thanks for the warm greet. I didn't exactly get to finish last night due to work issues, AND the fact I wasn't completely sure what I was doing (lol) Looks like someone was kind enough to get the basics started for me anyway :-) <br /> <br /> As I learn a little more, I'd really like to be more active in the Wiki community so hopefully you'll see a little more of me ;-)<br /> <br /> <br /> Regards<br /> -=Wulfsige=-<br /> <br /> ==Thanks!==<br /> Thanks man, this is the best Wiki EVER! - MegaKitsune<br /> <br /> == Reply ==<br /> <br /> ' I guess you found your way here from the creatures wiki' <br /> <br /> Sort of, pretty long story. I think I found them both at relatively the same time, when I started using wikipedia. <br /> <br /> Thanks for the friendly welcomes! --[[User:Listeel|Listeel]] 14:32, 30 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Edit buttons ==<br /> <br /> How do you set up an edit button like Wikifur and the Creatures wiki have? I'm also a member at the Sporewiki and want to contribute a button like that for them {{Unsigned|Listeel}}<br /> <br /> :Check out the [[MediaWiki:Monobook.css]] page, in particular the section starting:<br /> <br /> :''/* Create more space to top and left of the section Edit links and put norn in it */''<br /> <br /> :If you copy this and adjust it for your wiki (you will need to change the URL to match the URL of an image uploaded at your wiki or somewhere else) then it should work. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 20:14, 30 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Infobox question ==<br /> <br /> I've been trying to make an Infobox for [[A Fox in the Works]] page with little luck, something like what Wikipedia has for TV series (ie [[Wikipedia:Babylon_5]]. I'm really don't know what I'm doing, and it's something that would probably work better as a template so it can be used for comics and other furry story series.<br /> <br /> I can't find any help on making an infobox like this, and what I try to do comes up more then a bit fragged. Any help would be greatly appreciated. --[[User:Fox Cutter|Fox Cutter]] 05:13, 2 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Probably the best place to start is [[Wikipedia:Template:Infobox|Wikipedia's sample infobox template]], which is relatively simple as they go. The one you mentioned, [[Wikipedia:Template:Infobox Television|Template:Infobox Television]] is indeed hideously complex, in part because it relies on expressions (which are not yet available at Wikia, so it will give hideously mangled results).<br /> <br /> :Start simple. Just copy the template to a blank Template: page here (perhaps [[Template:Infobox]]!), and then try it out on a page. Try modifying various things, trying it out in the preview. Have a look at [[Wikipedia:Help:Template|Wikipedia's template help]]. It is not, unfortunately, very clear, but it starts off with some useful information. Our [[WikiFur:Templates|templates section]] has various ones that definitely work here, which you could copy from as well. If you get stuck, ask for help on a discussion page, saying what you want it to do, and someone will probably lend a hand (and if not, prod me :-). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 06:00, 2 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Wikipedia.org Extinctioners page being considered for deletion ==<br /> <br /> I'm so upset right now because my Extinctioners page at Wikipedia.org is being considered for deletion, if I try and update the one here, will it also be deleted, please let me know in my talk(if it works) --[[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]]<br /> <br /> :On the contrary, we would be glad to have your contributions, as long as the copyright status of the images is satisfactory (either GFDL or another open form of licensing, or permission for use on WikiFur). As you can see on [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Extinctioners|Wikipedia's deletion proposal]], their reasoning is that ''[[Extinctioners]]'' is not sufficiently notable in the general world for an article. WikiFur is all about the furry fandom, so that's not applicable here. Just remember that as with Wikipedia articles are community efforts - after all, you copied the initial article from here - and you should do fine. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 23:51, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Cleanup? ==<br /> <br /> Well, I've finished both the Extinctioners page and the individual character pages but some of them have a clean up not at the top, how can you clean up what little (in some cases) is there? --[[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]]<br /> <br /> :Perhaps they were referring to the manner in which the text was phrased? For example, it might have been written in first-person, when third-person is more appropriate for an encyclopedia. It might also be that formatting was non-standard or that the article was not correctly categorized (we really need to get specific templates for these, right now cleanup is used for everything). You can always ask the person who put the tag on the article what their precise reasoning was. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 00:42, 7 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Horizontal or vertical? ==<br /> <br /> Hey listen, I'm not being a prud but someone named Dmuth has edited some of my character section (I'm not reporting the editing itself) but he caused the multiple pics the stack ontop each other in the right hand side of the screen, I've fixed mos of them, you can see the original ones he did in the jistory section, please let me know what you think of the matter, alright, thank you. --[[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]]<br /> <br /> :I personally think they look better side by side ''in that particular case''. Those pictures happen to be particularly tall, and the fact that there is little text to go with it means that a better use of the space is to have them in a row. Most WikiFur articles have a lot more text in relation to the numbers of pictures, which is why the convention is to have them at the side, or in a combination of side pictures and a gallery as you can see in [[The Forest]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 00:42, 7 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Andorozon pics ==<br /> <br /> The Creator of the Andorozon comics has sent me an e-mail giving me permission to use his picsm how do I forward you the e-mail to get the pics licenced, the pics up already were drawn by Shawntae Howard and were licenced but Ken Singshow is going to send his own pics, what do I do? --[[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]]<br /> <br /> :I would suggest that you just attach a copy of the email giving permission to the [[Talk:Andorozon|discussion page]] of the [[Andorozon]] article. That way everyone who looks at the article. You could also add a note on the image upload description that links to that page (something like &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Talk:Andorozon|permission information]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;).<br /> <br /> :Also, when writing messages on talk pages please sign your name by putting &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt; at the end so we know who's talking and so who to reply to. It's possible to find that information out by looking at the edit history, but it's a lot easier if it's right there. Thanks! :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 15:34, 5 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Heya. I've noticed that the text of Maxwell Manx (Copy Cat) looks to have come from http://www.geocities.com/extinctioners/profile_copycat.html and I assume that's similarly the case for at least some of the other character articles. Could you clarify that for me? I gather we have permission to use the character images here, but I don't remember reference to text descriptions, and I'm ever anxious about copyright concerns. -- Sine 00:29, 7 June 2006 (UTC) <br /> <br /> I understand what you are saying but believe me, I have been given permission from Shawntae Howard himself to use both his pics and text in this and other related articles pertaining to Extinctioners, listen could you give me your e-mail address so I can forward his e-mail of him giving permission or should I talk about this with GreenReaper what should I do?RVDDP2501 01:17, 7 June 2006 (UTC) <br /> <br /> I'd suggest copying the e-mail to the talk page of the Extinctioners article; I've seen similar things here previously. You could certainly check with GreenReaper to confirm the procedure. <br /> It's great that we have all this Extinctioners material to work with, and that you've been so active with it. -- Sine 02:09, 7 June 2006 (UTC) <br /> <br /> (forgive me if you have already said something on this matter, my memory isn't al that good) so EXACTLY what must I do?<br /> <br /> :All we need on the talk page (or on the Licensing section of the image pages) is something to show that a) you have asked to use the author's copyrighted works, on this website or on Wikipedia (which has similar requirements) and b) that he has said yes. This would probably be your initial request to him, and his reply. This should not a general agreement that you can write a wiki page about the topic (you could do that without asking), but something that makes it clear that you intend to use some related parts of his copyrighted works in the pages - as you say, &quot;both his pics and text&quot;. That is the thing that requires permission, because it is his right to allow copies of his work on this site (or not to allow them, as he sees fit).<br /> <br /> :If you have previously asked for specific permission to use parts of his works rather than just writing ''about'' them, then that's fine - just put a copy of that on the page. If not, you should do so. You could point him to the wiki pages that have already been written (including some of the pictures) and ask him if that kind of use is OK. You could also invite him to look at the [http://furry.wikia.com/wiki/WikiFur:Copyrights copyrights page], and/or to contact us directly if he has questions. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 05:12, 7 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Forum ==<br /> <br /> Good timezone. The [[Forum:Index|forums]] are all set up and ready to go. Let me know if you want help changing anything. I added a [[Help:Forums|help page]] but it's a bit basic at the moment, because I'm still figuring out how things work and what we need to know! It will be good to see how it goes. Later -- [[User:Sannse|sannse]] [[Wikia:User talk:Sannse|(talk)]] 13:41, 8 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Hey, man==<br /> <br /> Thanks for the welcome and comments. I got tagged for cleanup for my article, but I'm not exactly sure where I should start looking to clean it up. Any thoughts? --[[User:Réizàr]]<br /> <br /> :You'd have to ask [[User:DuncanDaHusky]] about that, since he tagged it. However, this passage does spring to mind as one example:<br /> <br /> ::''His most noticeable feature is the moon-and-star tattoo on the back of his left hand, but when asked for a meaning, the most one can expect of the enigmatic weretiger is a sliht shrug, not out of rudeness, but because he has yet to find an actual meaning for it beyond something he drew one day in a fit of boredom.''<br /> <br /> :It's an encyclopedia article, not a MUCK character description. It could just as easily be something like &quot;His most noticeable feature is the moon-and-star tattoo on the back of his left hand, which has no inherent meaning.&quot; There's no call to be mysterious about it. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 23:59, 8 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Ah, okay. Odd though; that's been there for a while, and I was referring to myself IRL. I'll look it over though, and think of a way to simplify it. Thanks.<br /> --[[Réizàr]]<br /> <br /> :::That's just an example of something that popped out at me. He might have been looking at at something else. Given the size of WikiFur, not all people will have read all articles, and so they may come across something that they disagree with that they'd also have disagreed with beforehand. They may also have a threshold before they actually do something about it. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 02:00, 9 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Yeah, it's pretty big here. I'll skim over it a few more times and ask Duncan what else he thinks needs to be cleaned up. One of these days I'll get it right. Hah.<br /> <br /> == Furpile ==<br /> <br /> I've noticed that sometimes the [[WikiFur:Furpile|Furpile]] link goes unupdated, so I've been choosing articles for it. Essentially I've been clicking &quot;Random page&quot; until something suitable turns up. I'm only trying to keep it from going empty, so I won't update it further than a day ahead. So if you want to nominate things you still can. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 04:06, 10 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Thanks! As noted on the page, you can choose as many as you like at once, as long as you don't repeat stuff that's coming up or was recently requested. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 05:35, 10 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thanks from the newbie ==<br /> I just want to say thanks for correcting my spelling errors and welcoming me on my first page. Very appriciated! ~[[Kuzzy]]<br /> <br /> == Galciv ==<br /> <br /> I asked you some questions on that wiki. I don't know if you check it often, so I will note it here. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 13:47, 10 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Hmmm you are faster on checking encyclopedia dramatica than here. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 22:20, 10 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Patience. I get watchlist emails everywhere, I just sometimes don't get around to pressing &quot;Save page&quot; until I have had time to give a proper response. It's only just past breakfast here. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 22:22, 10 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :: Hmm watchlists can send emails. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 23:10, 10 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Watchlists can do everything! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 04:06, 12 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Flyers ==<br /> <br /> I forgot your room number already. But I trust that you found my note about the flyers in the meetup page. I even tried looking for you for an hour. That was rather fun. Spot the norn in the furpile. And without a cell number, I couldn't directly contact you.<br /> <br /> Anyway. See you at the meetup! ----[[User:Markus|Markus]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:Markus|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 07:49, 16 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Don't have a cell phone! But yes, we did indeed meetup, so that was OK. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 01:52, 19 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Recent Changes Error? ==<br /> <br /> Recent changes has the following line in it: &quot;Below are the last 50 changes in the last 7 days, as of $3.&quot; I don't think the $3 is intentional, is it? [[User:SpazKitty|Spaz Kitty]]<br /> <br /> :No, you're right - there's been something up with recent changes since the most recent upgrade. There's a bug filed for it on Wikia, it's just rather low-priority right now, especially since it's probably something that will have to be fixed in the main MediaWiki source code tree anyway. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 05:28, 19 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Brillliant Right! ==<br /> <br /> http://www.truechristian.com/furriesa.html<br /> Interesting! Just wanted to see what you guys think.<br /> <br /> :It's good to see such an authoritative and popular site covering the topic! Shame about the colour scheme, but eh, what can you do? --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 17:20, 19 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::How much of that site did you look at? Not exactly the most flattering portayal of furries. If anything, I'm glad they chose a color scheme that makes it look like an amateur rant. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 18:43, 19 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I was being sarcastic. :-) I guess I should have included the ;-) . . . --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 18:46, 19 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Hmm, okay. My bad. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 19:46, 19 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Hello! ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for the warm welcome! ^-^ I thought this was the best way to display our music to the furry community! I'll be sure to ask you if i need help.<br /> Thanks again,<br /> Ether<br /> <br /> == Extinctioners at Answers.com ==<br /> <br /> Hey GreenReaper, RVDDP2501 here, I just found an Extinctioners page (flawed) at Answer.com I told them about the problems and changes they could make, it looks like an original version I had at wikipedia.org (I guess they hadn't checked for updated versions) I also told them about Wikifurs version, they haven't replied yet, so what do you think - http://www.answers.com/topic/extinctioners, I mean I can't believe how my pages are spreading, you know. - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 19:48, 20 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :They are apt to taking the contents of Wikipedia, aren't they? They do that for a lot of other articles as well - it is an automated system. I doubt they will add WikiFur to their list, though it's always a possibility. They will probably update from Wikipedia over the next few months. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 19:55, 20 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> yeah, your probably right, anyways if you have any ideas, suggestion, etc. about making the page(s) better, please let me know, thanks - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 20:32, 20 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thanks ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for the great welcome. If there is anything that I can do to help, feel free to ask.<br /> <br /> ~Nevar<br /> <br /> == regards ==<br /> <br /> Ghear maidth agus :)<br /> thank you for the welcome. I, too, joined since someone created a wiki of me and my fiance. I figured I needed to correct our wikis and make them as unbiased as possible.<br /> <br /> == Hi. ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for welcoming me. I myself am a [[wizard]] at [[Frontier Galaxy MUCK]] so I figured if nothing else, it'd be my duty to correct that '''that''' little entry. Though I'm blindly stumbling through Wiki's system presently, glad I'm only editing and not adding articles, need to read a bit more before I try something like that. (And I would if I didn't have homework for a test, heh!) --[[User:Autolycus|Autolycus]]<br /> <br /> :Well, it's great that you had the time to fix it up - and should you find any more later, feel free to try your hand at making articles yourself. If it looks like you need help I'm sure one of our regular contributors will step in and lend a hand. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 07:01, 25 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Extinctioners improvement ==<br /> <br /> Hey GreenReaper, thanks a whole lot with the list improvement, seriously, thanks, if there is any other ideas on how to make the page(s) better, by all mean, do what you think is right. - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 02:01, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Of course. In this case I just thought it could be a little more compact before I linked it as our comic of the week. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 02:04, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> &quot;comic of the week&quot;? really!, this is just about the comic or the page as well? I don't quite fully understand what you mean? please let me know, thanks - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 02:08, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Look at the bottom left of the front page. Our comics of the week can be based on various criteria, but in this case I featured it because of the extensive coverage on WikiFur. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 02:11, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> oh, ok, I see it, sorry about that, listen I wanna ask you opinion and/or permission on something, I was planning on creating a page for a Extinctioners character called Krystin [http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/26978911/ deviantart.com] but I was not sure if you and/or Wikifur would approve of the pic of the character which IS a bit mature, I did an edit though in which I put a black back covering the &quot;chest area&quot;, do you want me to upload the censored pic without making the caracter page for you to look at and decide as to whether or not it would be appropriate to make the page with the pic? - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 02:52, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Go ahead and upload the original, if it is appropriate for the character. [[WikiFur:What WikiFur is not#WikiFur is not censored for the protection of minors|WikiFur is not censored for minors]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 02:58, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Ok, I just uploaded the pic of Krystin, the pic name is [[:Image:Extinctioners_cast_Krystin.jpg]], please let me know what you think and if I should go ahead with this character's page, thank you - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 03:09, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Seems reasonable enough. Go for it! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 03:19, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Thank you, I though I would do the right thing and discuss this with you first about the pic before I did something that would be disapproved of by you and others at wikifur, I do not like to make mistakes, ok - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 03:22, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Listen, thanks a whole lot for removing the nude pic of Krystin, I got an e-mail from Shawntae Howard saying he would prefer I not use that pic of Krystin due to it being so mature, he said he would send me another one to use in time, so until then, I uploaded the other version of the same pic only now with a black bar covering her chest, ok, thanks for removing those pics, I couldn't figure out how to do it. (God, I hope I haven't pissed him off) - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 22:11, 28 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :No problem. For future reference, you can always overwrite an image with a newer one by uploading a file and specifying the same destination filename, although deleting it entirely requires an administrator (and it is currently an irreversible operation). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 22:15, 28 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I though that was what i had done, I guess I messed up, I'm sorry to do that to you - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 22:18, 28 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I think you did, too - I saw the original had a black bar on it, but perhaps you didn't notice, because soon after you uploaded a (Censored) version as well. [[User:SpazKitty|Spaz Kitty]]<br /> <br /> :I think I know what happened - you uploaded it, but didn't force a refresh by going directly to the image file (not the image page) and pressing Ctrl+F5. Your computer still thought that the image was valid, as it had it cached, so it showed the uncensored version. It's often a problem for new wiki founders who add logos, as it looks like it's not changing, even though it is. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 22:23, 28 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Any ways, long story short, thanks for removing the pic and I hope I don't make the same mistake again, thank you. - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 22:38, 28 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> sorry, forget previous post, prolem fixed itself, sorry - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 17:32, 3 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == (sic) ==<br /> <br /> oh, my bad, man. i didn't know. thanks for telling me :) by the way, that article, [[Wolfie]], isn't about me. <br /> [[User:Wolfie|Wolfie]] 13:41, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Meep ==<br /> <br /> So, uh, I like, decided to add stuff cuz people I knew/knew of weren't on here, and uh.... seems they think I put too much D8<br /> <br /> I -was- careful to put only stuff I knew was publically visible, and I did add a bit more than I thought was needed, cuz I thought anyone concerned with privacy, like say other wiki contributors, would be like &quot;Hmm maybe you should delete that&quot; &lt;br /&gt;<br /> instead of suddenly &quot;OMG stalkers! everywhere! nuuuuu!&quot; o.o;<br /> This really upset me cuz they're people I interact with at least on occasion, and I value their opinion, so having them think I'm crazy(er)... &lt;br /&gt;<br /> I didn't tell anyone cuz I wanted a &quot;professional&quot; distance, if they knew I was doing it... well, &quot;the observer changes the observed&quot;.<br /> <br /> And honestly, I didnt -try- that hard, maybe an hour on each person... after all it's '''wiki''' and can be edited later...<br /> and I was mostly tryin to just sketch their persona since it's in their ART so much y'know ._.<br /> <br /> Anyway I explained myself some on [[Talk:Seel Dingo|Seel's talk page]], because I want to make everyone as happy as possible.<br /> <br /> PS- I'd be willing to have anything I do &quot;depersonalized&quot; but won't do it myself if it makes it look like I'm just covering my ass. Of course, yeah, it's a wiki and past changes can be viewed...<br /> <br /> --[[User:BennuTeomabar|BennuTeomabar]] 16:46, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Don't worry about it. I think the invididual involved is being a little out of line. Basically they're complaining because you reposted some information that was publically available. It seems to me that their worldview is that nobody should be allowed to talk about anybody else. We don't subscribe to that view here. :-) --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 16:55, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Wikifur news ==<br /> <br /> I couldn't figure out how to add a news item. :/ I thought the passing of [[Peter S. Beagle]]'s mother (Peter being the author of The Last Unicorn) might be of note to some furry fans. I just received word from Beagle's newsletter and it pointed to this page ... http://www.conlanpress.com/html/rebecca_beagle.html --[[User:Chibiabos|Chibiabos]]<br /> <br /> :To post a news item, you create the link to the template as you did (preferably in a preview first), then make the page that it links to, and add a link to that page to [[Template:Newsbar]] and the [[WikiFur:Community Central]] page.<br /> <br /> :However, I would have to say that I would not really agree with posting it as news on WikiFur. Wikipedia used to have the somewhat pithy phrase &quot;It's sad when people die, but Wikipedia is not the place to honor them,&quot; and I feel this is true for WikiFur as well. People (particularly the mothers and fathers of the older people in the fandom) die all the time.<br /> <br /> :While the death of a person already relevant to WikiFur just for being in the fandom is a fact that should go on the the page about them, it is not site news. Moreover, all previous news items have been directly related to WikiFur. If it had been someone of major relevance to the fandom I might have thought differently - say, [[Uncle Kage]], or ''maybe'', at a stretch, [[Grandma Kage]] (who is relevant enough to have a page, but not much of one yet). However, we don't even have an entry on Peter yet, let alone his mother. We're not a furry news aggregator, and this doesn't really seem to count as furry news as much as a personal loss. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 23:08, 27 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Multiple edits ==<br /> <br /> I really apologize for all the edits, I'm new to any sort of wiki, so I'm just trying to get it as perfect as possible XD --[[User:Nekonaru Letao|Nekonaru Letao]]<br /> <br /> :It's no real problem. Perfection is an admirable goal to have. :-) Oh, one more tip - you can sign your name on talk pages with &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~, or ~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt; to get the date as well. It helps people reading to see who said what! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 01:50, 29 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Minor Bug on Recent Changes page ==<br /> <br /> Howdy! I just noticed a small bug on the Recent Changes page. At the top of the page (at least according my my preferences), it reads:<br /> <br /> Below are the last 200 changes in the last 7 days, as of $3.<br /> <br /> I'm thinking that that &quot;$3&quot; is a variable that isn't being called correctly. It's obviously a minor thing, but something I thought might be a quick fix if you've got the permissions.----[[User:DuncanDaHusky|DuncanDaHusky]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:DuncanDaHusky|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 16:11, 29 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Yeah. It's been like that since we upgraded to 1.7 alpha. It's a known bug, but it was low priority for the Wikia guys. I'll have a chat with them and see if it's a quick fix. If not, it can be removed by editing [[MediaWiki:Rcnote]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 16:27, 29 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Can you help? ==<br /> <br /> On [[furluminati]], Spirou constantly vandalizes the article, but no matter what I put he reverts me back to his version (and he has not even corrected the grammar/spelling errors in it). I have tried and tried to please him, but I've seen his type and they just revert nonstop as they like--just like willy on wheels likes to move pages to &quot;on wheels&quot; and others like to blank pages, Spirou gets his vandalism high from reverting. I keep trying to please him, but obviously he is just out to cause trouble by revert vandalism. I have put hours and hours into fixing it up and he does not care. Spirou is not here to fix anything, he is just to harass me by reverting anything I do on the article, even fixing his grammar. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 02:37, 30 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I'm guessing GreenReaper is away right now. Have either of you heard of the [[Wikipedia:WP:3RR|three revert rule]] on Wikipedia? I think it can apply here on WikiFur too. I'll block for 24 hours if I see a violation of the three revert rule from either of you. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 03:10, 30 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Spirou will then just revert 3 times a day, but still vandalize. Also on wikipedia reverting vandalism doesn't count toward 3RR. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 03:22, 30 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I was away for a half-hour, but I am back right now. While the three revert rule is not a rule on WikiFur at this time, its rationale is sound. Page edits should not turn into revert wars. I am looking more carefully at the edits made to see what to suggest in this particular circumstance. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 03:14, 30 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Spirou isn't trying to edit, just revert. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 03:22, 30 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::I ''said'', I'm looking. Patience, please. :-) I would also suggest that you focus on the edits, rather than the person behind them. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 03:25, 30 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::His last edit was a revert again, but he changed some words and acted like it wasn't. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 03:28, 30 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> You locked the article on Spirou's version and he's the cause. :( [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 04:10, 30 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Page protection is used to prevent further edits while the situation is delt with. [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Protection policy#A temporary protection is used for:|It does not express]] a preference for the version that happens to be protected. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 04:16, 30 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == What was the killhamster article here? ==<br /> <br /> You said: &quot;I would note that the article about &quot;killhamster&quot;, whose article was used as a reference, was deleted, twice, for being totally full of nonsense added by himself and his friends.&quot;<br /> <br /> I referenced his livejournal and the edit dispute in the LJ was talking about on ED. Umm... did he make an article on wikifur? [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 09:06, 1 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Yes. It was at various times a duplicate of User:Killhamster on ED, and/or random nonsense. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 09:15, 1 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == *Waves.* ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for leaving me a note. I've meant to put the link to the Eurofurence LJ instead of the website, I guess I was distracted when I added &quot;Eurofurence&quot; to the list. :B Sorry.<br /> <br /> :No problem!<br /> <br /> I tried to reply to you using the &quot;send mail&quot; option, but apparently I have to get a confirmation code, and while I tried a couples of times, it never seems to reach me. It's not in my &quot;spam&quot; box either, so I was wondering if something was broken on Wikifur's side, or what should I do.<br /> <br /> :Not sure about that. It should come from jasonr@wikia.com, if that helps.<br /> <br /> ::Okay, I made a research in my mailbox AND spambox, and I've never received any e-mail from this addy. I don't know what's wrong, it just doesn't seem to send me anything when I ask for a confirmation code.<br /> <br /> Also, and this may sound like a very stupid question, but.. I was wondering how to create articles here? I've only found help to edit existing articles; reading the artists pages I noticed some less-well known artists as well, as if they or someone had created a page about them, but I'm not sure the admins themselves did, and I can't find how to start a page from scratch in the help pages. Is it a privilege-thing or did I miss the option or an help page somewhere? Is it related to the fact I haven't entered any confirmation code yet (see first issue in paragraph above)?<br /> <br /> :There are several ways that (I think they're on [[Help:Editing]]) - try to go to a page with the search box and click the red link when you don't find it, make a link in an existing page (or in a preview) and click on it, or just change the URL to the appropriate one and click '''edit this page'''. It is something anyone can do (even anonymous users) and is not related to email confirmation. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 17:12, 1 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Ooh okay, thanks for our help! by the way, do you see my signature when I reply (as in, my username and link to &quot;talk&quot; and such) or do I have to add it manually?<br /> <br /> :::No, you need to add it with &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~ (or ~~~ to just add the name)&lt;/nowiki&gt;. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 16:21, 3 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Person exclusion without current article ==<br /> <br /> Within the last few minutes I've had the misfortune of encountering a situation with which I've had no prior experience -- an unregistered user has removed a single name from the [[:Category:People/People to add]] page. I had reverted the change once and the same IP has made the change again. I've now left a message on their [[User talk:69.231.20.143|talk page]] about removing information without reason and a link to our personal information policy. I then reverted the change again. I think that the specificity of these edits might indicate that this IP is of the person concerned and I would greatly appreciate advice on how to procede if they should decide to edit the page again without providing more information to us. -- [[User:DeVandalizer|DeVandalizer]] 19:19, 1 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :In this specific case, I don't think there's a real problem with removing names on the People to add list. It actually saves time over us having to go through the process of excluding an article later (unless someone makes it via another link). There's not much &quot;information&quot; in just a name. :-)<br /> <br /> :In general, there's no need to tell people they're going to be banned for removing stuff in the first instance, except in very bad situations. [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Assume good faith|Assume good faith]] - chances are, they ''are'' that person, and are just not particularly interested in having an article. Be welcoming, and then you will probably get a better response from that person (and they will have a better impression of WikiFur, so we avoid situations like [http://thefoxes.livejournal.com/26151.html this]). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 20:49, 1 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Please see my response on my [[User talk:DeVandalizer]], I watch talk pages that I edit (no need to copy discussion) :) -- [[User:DeVandalizer|DeVandalizer]] 06:09, 2 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == New Featured Article ==<br /> I wouldn't mind taking over the duty of writing the summary for featured articles for this week. I looked for something to write about but I can't really find any consensus on the featured article candidates page. What articles would you suggest? -- [[User:DeVandalizer|DeVandalizer]] 05:37, 3 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I would suggest that you have a look at some of the [[Special:Longpages|long pages]] and see if there are any on there that have not been featured. Longness in and of itself is not a sign of greatness, but articles should have ''some'' length to be featured, so it's a good start. Once you think you've found a good choice, try to condense the gist of it down into three or four fairly short paragraphs, with appropriate links to other articles, and [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=WikiFur:This_week%27s_featured_article/Week_27%2C_2006&amp;action=edit replace the redirect with it]. Have a look at [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=WikiFur:This_week%27s_featured_article/Week_26%2C_2006&amp;action=edit last week's] examples of formatting and linking. And good luck! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 05:49, 3 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Code error, etc. ==<br /> <br /> Couple of things...One, on both the WikiFur homepage and your talk page, &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;clear:both&quot;/&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt; appears. Two, [[Talk:SCHLITZER]] is a leftover from the Crabs crabs crabs! x 50 vandal that previously redirected to my talk page - not sure if you saw that all the way back in recent changes (I've been boredly busy today XD). [[User:SpazKitty|Spaz Kitty]] 02:47, 4 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I've had a chat with the Wikia admins and this is a temporary error in the MediaWiki version that they are testing. I've replaced it with the equivalent (but working) &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;div style&quot;clear:both&quot;&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt; in those two places. If there are other pages affected, they should be fixed after the testing concludes. It looks like [[User:Sine|Sine]] got the other problem. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 03:38, 4 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Hello ==<br /> <br /> Hi GreenReaper, thanks forleaving a note on my talk page. [[User:Lilim|Lilim]] 04:41, 4 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thanks ==<br /> Thanks for helping me delete the left over pages from the recent vandalism. It's much appreciated :) -- [[User:DeVandalizer|DeVandalizer]] 23:16, 4 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Seemed like a similar pattern to last time. If it happens again I'll get the staff to do a checkuser to get their IP and see if we can do a range block. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 23:21, 4 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Sounds like a good plan. I saw the user page creation in recent changes and I had some inkling something was going to go down -- the pattern was far too similar. -- [[User:DeVandalizer|DeVandalizer]] 23:28, 4 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Google Analytics Stats ==<br /> <br /> Any chance you could sign me up to access wikifur's stats on google analytics? -- [[User:DeVandalizer|DeVandalizer]] 00:00, 5 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Sure, if you tell me your GMail or Google Account address, either here or [[Special:Emailuser/GreenReaper|privately]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 00:02, 5 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::No problem, my gmail account is devandalizer@gmail.com -- [[User:DeVandalizer|DeVandalizer]] 00:06, 5 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Done. You may access the statistics [https://www.google.com/analytics/home/report?rid=52980 here]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 00:10, 5 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::I am in. Thank you. -- [[User:DeVandalizer|DeVandalizer]] 00:14, 5 July 2006 (UTC)</div>

Graafen Blackpaw //en.wikifur.com/wiki/User_talk:GreenReaper 2006-07-05T15:24:01Z

<p>Graafen Blackpaw: Categorisation</p> <hr /> <div>&lt;!-- You probably want to add stuff at the bottom of this page --&gt;<br /> {{User talk:GreenReaper/Header}}<br /> == Hi you ... ==<br /> Thanks for your welcome!<br /> I only joined 'cause somebody made a wiki page about me ... and in some kind it was wrong. x_x;<br /> So that's all.<br /> <br /> --[[User:Meeko|Meeko]] 01:40, 25 Mai 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Hi, GreenReaper ==<br /> <br /> This is partly a test to see if I've got this editor figured out before I do anything important with it. I notice someone put in an entry for yours truly (in fact that's how I wandered in - I was checking old Other Suns links which led to Nicolai's entry which led to mine) which I may update later; at least I suppose the fact that I was Den Mother of ConFurence for years and am now holding that position in CaliFur is at interesting as anything already there. Also an excuse for putting in a few Ursa Major links inasmuch as I maintain the Recommended List.<br /> <br /> Speaking of which, I got your note suggesting the addition of WikiFur to the Recommended Anthropomorphics list for this year - makes sense, though I'll have to discuss where to put it with the rest of the committee. We're currently counting nominations for this year's Ursa Major ballot.<br /> --[[User:Yealurowluro|Yealurowluro]] 00:58, 6 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Glad you got my note! I wasn't entirely sure if I should suggest it myself, but I figured it's something that's worth reading. :-) <br /> <br /> :It looks like you have the wiki editing figured out. Please do contribute to any articles you find lacking, and good luck figuring out those nominations. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 21:04, 5 April 2006 (PDT)<br /> <br /> == Moving assistance. ==<br /> <br /> Hey GreenReaper,<br /> <br /> Thanks for the help moving the page for my listing. I was woundering if it should have been moved over as you did, but didn't have time IRL to send a message. The dire warning kinda steared me off. (I figured I would mess around with my own page before messing up some one elses =)<br /> <br /> :No problem! A lot of people start off in the User: namespace, as that's where you would normally do it on (e.g.) Wikipedia. <br /> <br /> Let me know if I'm misplacing anyother articles so we can keep the database as consistant as possable! (Or if you have any other suggestions)<br /> <br /> :I'm sure I or another contributor will let you know should that be the case. :-)<br /> <br /> I hope the format of the post is accaptable. I wrote the thing in third person as if I was writing about someone else. Thanks again - PG<br /> <br /> :That was fine. Feel free to edit your User: page if you want to say something from first-person persepective in addition to that which is already there (but don't feel you have to - most people are just fine with what's on the page about them already). --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 03:02, 7 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thanks ==<br /> <br /> Thank you for the kind welcome. Though I've been active on Wikipedia forever (and I'm admin there), I've only just discovered wikifur today. I'm happy to help out in any area that needs it, and I've already added stubs for [[Wild Life]] and [[Wildlifers]]! [[User:Starblind|Andrew Lenahan]] - &lt;b&gt;&lt;FONT COLOR=&quot;#FF0000&quot;&gt;St&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT COLOR=&quot;#FF5500&quot;&gt;ar&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT COLOR=&quot;#FF8000&quot;&gt;bli&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT COLOR=&quot;#FFC000&quot;&gt;nd&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/b&gt; 15:43, 7 April 2006 (PDT)<br /> <br /> :Excellent . . . *scoops up some cover pics for those* --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 23:27, 7 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==View counts==<br /> I've noticed that the view counts in [[:Special:Popularpages]] have not updated at least since last Thursday on several articles I've been following, even though I've viewed some of those articles myself during that time. I've verified this from two different computers and used a couple of other tricks to make reasonably certain it's not a browser cache issue. What gives?<br /> <br /> Edit: There are also several hundred articles that currently show 0 views.<br /> --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 14:23, 10 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Yes. I had a chat with the admins and apparently they had to discontinue popular pages updating due to server loads. We can get the same sort of information from the google analytics stats, so it's no ''great'' loss, although it is a pity that people can't access that without talking to me first.<br /> <br /> :As this makes the page rather useless, I've removed the link in the main page header and added in links to the article and user talk pages instead. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 16:29, 10 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Re my WikiFur entry ==<br /> <br /> Just noticed that you had stuck in an unwritten link from the Kay Shapero entry for the Anthropomorphic Literature and Arts Association. I had deliberately NOT put a link there, because the ALAA exists to produce the Recommended List and present the Ursa Major awards, both of which have links right after the reference. So I figured it would be superfluous. What do you think? I could probably write an entry, but it'd only be a couple of lines long and probably wouldn't contain much you can't find out from the other two links. --[[User:Yealurowluro|Yealurowluro]]<br /> <br /> :(I'm not GR, but we never have a shortage of opinions around here! :-) Actually, even the small amount of information you mention would be useful, if only to define the parametes of the organization and to show that it is independent of any other organization out there (when I first saw mention of ALAA, I erroneously conflated it with [[AAE]], which is a different beastie entirely). ----[[User:DuncanDaHusky|DuncanDaHusky]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:DuncanDaHusky|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 00:28, 11 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :That's basically why I put it in there (also because I rememebered it was linked in [[Ursa Major Awards]]). If you really don't think it should have an entry, take it out, but as Duncan mentions, [[Anthropomorphic Arts and Education]] seems to do well enough. It's a short page, but it gives a link to the organization, and as it is a separate page it can be put into [[:Category:Organizations]] which helps us keep a tab on all such organizations. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 03:19, 11 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==To Stub or Not to Stub?==<br /> Is there a guideline as to when a short article (which just doesn't have much to say) doesn't need to be tagged as a stub? 1000 bytes, etc.? Wouldn't stop anyone from dropping in to make changes anyway. Just curious. --[[User:Frizzy|Frizzy]] 23:11, 14 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I usually go by the rule of whether I feel there's anything that ought to be added (but that I'm not sure about or don't know or don't feel like putting in right now). -- [[User:Siege|Siege]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:Siege|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 05:02, 15 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The general rule is &quot;if there is probably something that could be added fairly easily by someone who doesn't know much about the topic&quot; (say with a few minutes of google searching) then it is a stub. If not, then it is not a stub, although if you can describe it entirely in a couple of lines, it is probably a strong candidate for merging with another article. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 08:04, 15 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Categorization?==<br /> Thanks for the quick feedback! I was looking through WikiFur's [[:Help:Furry_Book_of_Style|style guide]] and had another question: Are there any guidelines on category order at the end of articles? I was going through alphabetically, but it might be helpful to define this in the style guide if there's a prefered order to doing this. --[[User:Frizzy|Frizzy]] 19:10, 16 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Technically any order is fine. In practice, for articles about people I've tended to do People and then subcategories of People (note that we only do this category + subcategory thing with people so as to get a full listing in that category), and then their location and year of birth/death. In general I would put the most important or relevant category first, but that's just a personal style. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 20:44, 16 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::What you describe is what I've been doing, GreenReaper. I described it in some detail over at [[:Category_talk:Root]]. -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 21:37, 16 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Requesting page protection ==<br /> <br /> How do I go about requesting my page to be locked so that only myself and administrators can edit it? --[[Banrai|Banrai]]<br /> <br /> :You just did. I'm at work right now so I can't really look that closely to ensure it's appropriate, but I will later this evening.<br /> <br /> :Be aware that &quot;your page&quot; is [[User:Banrai]]. [[Banrai]] is &quot;the page about you&quot;. As such it is expected to be reasonably complete, and I do find it odd that there is no mention or reference to the actions mentioned in a certain LiveJournal entry that comes up when searching for your name. What's past is past, and it is important not to dwell on it, but it does deserve recording so that people understand how things ended up as they are today (and so we don't get complaints on the talk page from people who think things are being hidden). I will try and see about that tonight as well. I'm not a concerned party other than ensuring the accuracy of the article, and I don't particularly want to raise any drama about it, so fear not - it'll be brief.<br /> <br /> :Oh, and just something I noticed glancing over the page - you only need to link to other articles the ''first'' time a linkable name comes up, not every time. It's assumed that people will already have clicked on the link if they want to go to it. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 15:04, 19 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I added a small blurb about... that. But feel free to edit it as you see fit. It's a very personal preferance that the article itself not actually be linked, since it IS over and done, but.. yeah, you're the mod. I also went back in and fixed the massive-linking, so it looks a little cleaner now. ;3 --[[User:Banrai|Banrai]]<br /> <br /> :::I've not linked it. Instead, I spent a while reading various sources, then tried to give a summary of your actions, the context behind them - part of which was already evident in previous sections - and the response from others, without turning it into a duplicate of that post (or another [[Sibe]]). I think it says all that needs to be said about that without taking up too much of the article. If people really want to know more, I'm sure they can find out for themselves - but I suspect for most it is enough that they will not feel the need to do so.<br /> <br /> :::As for your request, the article seems a good one as it stands. I will post a notice on the talk page, and unless there is significant dissent from the WikiFur community I will enable the page protection within a day or so. If at a later point you decide that you no longer want the page protected then any admin can help you remove it at request. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 06:35, 20 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Repeated vandalism and blocking ==<br /> <br /> I've just blocked an IP for what I now see is repeated vandalism. ([http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special:Log&amp;type=block&amp;page=User:70.180.173.165 Three incidents so far].)<br /> Do we have an understood point where we block for longer periods, or infinitely? -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 03:20, 21 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I would say go up by one category per repeated offense - hours, days, weeks, months, years (or forever). If all they do is vandalism feel free to skip a step. We're not Wikipedia, we've not really got time to deal with trouble again and again. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 03:32, 21 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Vandal IPs found<br /> <br /> 69.210.142.84 and<br /> 68.202.53.196<br /> They were found posting images of the vandalism in /b/<br /> <br /> == Questions about Des Lee? ==<br /> <br /> Hey there! Thought I'd drop a line and see if I could answer any questions you might have about Desiree. I set up a basic entry for her awhile ago, but I'd noticed you had a question or two concerning her on my page. Anyway, if I can be of assistance, let me know! Thanks!<br /> <br /> :Note [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Jim_Hardiman&amp;curid=3935&amp;diff=53558&amp;oldid=50672 my recent edit] and comment on the [[Talk:Jim Hardiman|talk page]], but I'll carry over here and say that I think the question was about those quote-marks around &quot;friend&quot;. -- [[User:Siege|Siege]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:Siege|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 20:30, 22 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Yep, replied on the talk page. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 21:24, 22 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Edit patrols ==<br /> <br /> It's about this time that I think bringing back the &quot;patrol this edit&quot; marker may be a good idea. It just has to be explained clearly: &quot;These markers are for admin to make rounds of patrols through the various edits,&quot; and so forth. I'd also like to suggest a proxy banlist which is shared across Wikia. That way, once a proxy is confirmed, all wikis have the option of automatically banning it. -- [[User:Siege|Siege]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:Siege|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 06:24, 26 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I would support the creation of a shared proxy banlist with all of Wikia. Is there a feature for this currently in mediawiki or would it have to be added through some sort of module? -- [[User:DeVandalizer|DeVandalizer]] 06:33, 26 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :This might be a good idea. We are getting a lot of edits - certainly more than I manage to have the time to look at, let alone edit. We can probably try enabling it for a time.<br /> <br /> :I think there is actually a proxy blacklist. We may be using a service, in which case it probably doesn't get everything. JasonR on the live chat would be the perosn to talk to about that (or he's available via technical at wikia dot com, or the wikia-l mailing list, or the wikia LiveJournal). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 08:12, 26 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thanks for the Welcome! ==<br /> <br /> I was figuring it would come at some point or another. Very much appreciated. :) [[User:Bastique|Bastique]] 13:00, 27 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Database error on page move ==<br /> <br /> I was attempting to move [[Art Show]] over its redirect [[Art show]] (note the caps - one is the name of a show, the other is a type), and I received this error:<br /> <br /> :A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was: <br /> ::&lt;tt&gt;UPDATE `wikicities`.`gpage` SET page_namespace = '0',page_title = 'Art_show' WHERE page_namespace = '0' AND page_title = 'Art_Show'&lt;/tt&gt;<br /> :from within function &quot;&lt;tt&gt;Database::update&lt;/tt&gt;&quot;. MySQL returned error &quot;&lt;tt&gt;1062: Duplicate entry 'furry-0-Art_show' for key 2 (paris.wikia.com)&lt;/tt&gt;&quot;.<br /> <br /> Would you mind passing this on to the Wikia folks? Looks like the parser is missing the routine which checks for a page/redirect/whatever under the name being moved to. Thanks. -- [[User:Siege|Siege]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:Siege|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 10:13, 28 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Hi Back. ==<br /> <br /> This is a bit awkward, but I think this is the right way to do it. I'm looking over a variety of articles to see what I can add to. I lengthened Ken Fletcher's piece a little -- he deserves more, but it's hard to do him justice, even knowing him fairly well. (Ken is modest to the point of humility.) Kevin Duane's piece broke me up. I could add 10,000 words, but wouldn't know where to start. And do I want to make him out a clown, a villain, a well-intentioned schlemiel, or just a guy who got a lot of bad breaks? Then there was Steve Martin. Another perplexing case. I had to add a bit more detail to the &quot;controversy&quot; section, that put the customs debacle in a somewhat better light.<br /> <br /> Ah... I wonder what other delights await? --[[User:Taral Wayne|Taral Wayne]]<br /> <br /> :It can be hard. Pages [[Sibe|can and have]] been written about [[Banrai#Past disputes|past disputes]], but in the end the actual situation can usually be boiled down to just a few paragraphs written in a fairly dry tone. If in doubt, just add the facts, and try to make sure you don't leave out any facts in a way that could be viewed as biased by not giving reasonable coverage of all sides of the story. If you think you're up to writing a more lengthy piece, and you think it is appropriate for the article concerned, [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Be bold in updating pages|be bold]] and do so. Wikipedia has [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Neutrality|lots of advice]] on how to go about this.<br /> <br /> :Whatever you do decide to add, thank you for taking the time to do so. WikiFur relies on the contributions of those who know the full history of events, and in many cases there are only a few people in the world who do. Hopefully this project will go some way towards ensuring that the history of the fandom doesn't fade away, as I think that would be a shame.<br /> <br /> :Oh, and note that you can sign comments on talk pages with &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~, or just ~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt; if you want to do it without the date. There's no need to do so on the main article pages, as they're intended to be community work anyway (and a full history of contributions is kept in the history tab if it's required). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 10:02, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I think I'll just leave the Kevin Duane item as it is. While there's a hundred times more, it isn't really that important, and what's there is probably impartial enough. Though I doubt very much Kevin would own up to much on the negative side of the ledger.<br /> <br /> ::By the way, what would keep him from editing out everything he didn't like, and painting a glowing picture of himself?<br /> <br /> :::Nothing. However, he'd probably find such edits mysteriously changed back a few minutes later. Some people around here tend to watch [[Special:Recentchanges|recent changes]] like a hawk and can very quickly pick up on editors who are trying to modify history, especially their own. There are [[WikiFur:Personal information|established procedures]] for requesting the removal of certain items of personal information. Blanking or removing information without comment do not count, and won't have the desired effect. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 10:20, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Hello ==<br /> <br /> Hi, thanks for the welcome! I just have to say that I'm very impressed by the speed at which the articles are updated :)<br /> <br /> --[[User:MrZebra|MrZebra]] 10:16, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Glad you like it! We aim to please. ;-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 10:20, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thanks for the assistance ==<br /> <br /> Thank you for loading a higher-resolution picture for me. I appreciate that. And thanks for the welcome as well. :)<br /> <br /> --[[Equestrian]]<br /> <br /> == Asking your permission ==<br /> <br /> Would it be okay with you to upload [http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/Image:Taxidermy.gif this image] to wikifur? It is an animated gif of scenes from the CSI furry episode. It's 1.8MB so I'm obviously not going to risk spending the long time uploading it if it gets deleted and I'm hoping somebody else will do it. If that is not acceptable, would a link to it in the CSI article be allowed? There's no pressure if you don't agree with these. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 05:43, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I probably wouldn't delete it. It is not the best pictoral representation of the whole show, though. The animation tells a story, but it is not the whole story about the show, just as the show does not tell the whole story about the fandom. Its [http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/Taxidermy purpose on ED] was to promote [[fursecution]] (to whit, the conversion of furries into trophies and rugs) and the selection of passages in the animation is limited to those supporting that argument. I believe that a small selection of screen captures from various points in the show added by use of the &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;gallery&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt; tag (see [[The Forest]] for an example) might be a better addition to the article.<br /> <br /> :Another thing to consider - if it takes you a long time to upload it, it will take a long time for many of our contributors to download it as well. 2Mb pages are not really a good idea. This suggests that a link to the animation would be more appropriate, with a note of the file size for those on modems. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 07:54, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::About size, I see so many websites designed where the only way you can view them is flash. I don't know what the deal with that. The real size getter is YTMNDs where each one is huge and often a copy of several other ones with just a tiny change. You know you're actually a pretty cool person (and probably same for others here) compared to the wikipedia furry community where any mention of furries that isn't in their &quot;furries never yiff, or dress in custumes more than bunny ears, and all furries are heterosexual, and there are the same number of male and female furries&quot; propoganda means a witchhunt and I think it's one of the reasons why encyclopedia dramatica has all the anti-furry stuff--and the site says somewhere it's the denial of some furry aspects that get them made fun of----that can be compared to how the site doesn't make fun of star wars / star trek nerds with more than a small amount. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 10:51, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Flash is not the most ideal system for web user interfaces (although it does have enviable compatability compared to things like JavaScript). I won't go so far as to say that Flash has no place. It is a good system for the delivery of multimedia content. We tend to link to that rather than host it, though. :-)<br /> <br /> :::It is true that people are sometimes overly defensive. However, at the same time, some have good reason - there [http://forums.hatersonline.com/viewtopic.php?t=164 really are] &quot;furry haters&quot; for which it is a hobby to just go out there and spread the message that furries suck. Most of them don't actually ''know'' anything about the fandom, participate in any of the events, or contribute anything - they're just having fun putting other people down. I'm more than willing to accept criticism from people like [[Nothingkat]], who at least knows what he's talking about. And . . . well, I've not heard people make the above assertions before. I'm sure a lot of people say &quot;not all furries yiff, not all dress up in fursuits, not all are gay and furries are not all male&quot;, but there's a big difference between that and utter denial.<br /> <br /> :::As for Wikipedia, you have to remember that the purpose of their project (as ours) is to '''make an encyclopedia''', ''not'' to make fun of people. The [[Wikipedia:furry fandom|furry fandom]] article already has five whole paragraphs on sexual activities. I think that gives readers a fairly good idea of the extent of sexual content in the fandom. When you get [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Furry_lifestyler&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=51228054 edits] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Furry_Wikipedians&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=51070460 like] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Furry_fandom&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=50860121 these], it is very easy to see why a lot of them get reverted.<br /> <br /> :::ED would have furry stuff on it regardless, I am sure. After all, we already own [[LiveJournal]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 01:32, 6 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Thanks!==<br /> Thank you for your barnstar award, I appreciate your recognition. I have found in recent weeks just how difficult it is to start a Wika, and it's always nice to have someone appreciate the work. While I still need to read up on the goals and concept of this Wiki, I'm a big comic book fan and can hopefully help with some new content. You can contact me at my [http://oc.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Xtreme680 talk page] at [http://oc.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page The O.C. Wikia]. - [[User:Xtreme680|Xtreme680]] 09:33, 6 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==My page got vandalized...==<br /> Apparently it happened today even, suprisinly. Some user going by the name of Clambake....*sigh*. And it has to be somebody with access to aby.com or yiffstar.com, because that's the ONLY place I've posted the picture used with even a slight bit of public access. --[[User:lucashoal|lucashoal]] 3:40 PM, May 9 2006 (EST)<br /> :I will say that the staff already reverted the edits made to your page. The image, though I have not seen it, was already deleted. ----[[User:Markus|Markus]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:Markus|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 23:41, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Indeed. [[User:DuncanDaHusky|Duncan]] was pretty quick on the ball!<br /> <br /> ::I find it odd that you were able to revert their work so quickly - according to [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Luca_Shoal&amp;curid=651&amp;action=history the history], just four minutes passed between the picture being uploaded and your reversion. How did you know that they had posted the picture there? --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 00:23, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I just decided to log in today to see if anyone had left me a note, or made any changes to my page. And seeing the picture, well... It was a matter of luck really. I know it seems....fishy, but I honestly had no way at all of knowing this edit had taken place.<br /> :::As for the picture? It was a picture of me, not just Luca, but me in the real world. Specifically, it was one taken at a babyfur party, and in a pink dress.<br /> :::Thank you though for everything ^^. [[User:Lucashoal|Lucashoal]] 9:03 PM, May 9 2006 (EST)<br /> <br /> ::::'''*grins*''' - well, you were fortunate, then. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 05:04, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Interesting article on this whole problem in [http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/17/technology/17wiki.html The New York Times] (Growing Wikipedia Revises Its 'Anyone Can Edit' Policy) -- although the article is about &quot;big&quot; Wikipedia the principles and concerns probably still apply. --[[User:Auliya|Auliya]]<br /> <br /> :Yes. We have the same features here, and have used them, though they too affect only a small proportion of our pages. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 15:46, 19 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Transformation ==<br /> <br /> I'm reasonably sure that [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Transformation&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=57531 this] is actually correct, if badly formatted and perhaps not completely relevant to this wiki. See [http://metamedia.stanford.edu/traumwerk/index.php/More%20Dragons%20in%20Northumbria here] for the rhyme. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 18:45, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I did get a indeed get a positive hit for the rhyme, but Google turned up nothing relevant for Lanelet, Elidia, Zaikhoeven, or &quot;Duncan Frasier&quot; and &quot;Robert Lambe&quot;. I tried several different spelling variants and still came up with nothing. Now, I'm willing to grant that Google is not actually the sum of ''all'' knowledge, but the lack of hits and the near-unreadability of the edit makes me suspicious. ----[[User:DuncanDaHusky|DuncanDaHusky]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:DuncanDaHusky|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 18:55, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Duncan Frasier is cited as the author of the rhyme in the above link. Robert Lambe is likely to be [http://www.exploreberwick.co.uk/ArtsInBerwick/Legends/3_03.htm this guy].<br /> <br /> ::There does seem to be some confusion in online sources about who wrote the item and when it was written. Don't suppose you know any medieval historians? :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 19:10, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I've done some further research and I think I see the problem: it's written in the arcane and byzantine languange of ''academese'', a language I'm afraid I lost my fluency in years ago (and besides, I only ever spoke technical academese - I think it relates to Liberal Arts academese like Classical Latin to Vulgate Latin :-) I'll warrant that it was a valid edit, but written so impenetrably I would question its value. I've found a couple of useful links that might help; I'll probably poke at it a bit more tonight.----[[User:DuncanDaHusky|DuncanDaHusky]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:DuncanDaHusky|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 19:17, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : 1. I am able to translate this. It's pretty much just a load of academic-paper-filling bull, and says very little of relevancy to our wiki.<br /> : 2. Here, lemme take a whack at rebuilding that section.<br /> : -- [[User:Siege|Siege]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:Siege|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 23:32, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thank you ==<br /> <br /> Thank you for fixing my first upload :D I just joined and I'm still trying to get used to it all. I hope I atleast put THIS post in the correct place.<br /> <br /> :'''*grins*''' - yep, you just need to sign it! You can use &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt; to do that (or &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt; if you don't want to put the date). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 05:16, 13 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Howloween Template ==<br /> <br /> Are there any plans to create a Howloween convention template? Howloween is a convention held in British Columbia, during Late October : [http://www.howloween.org Howloween 2006 Website]<br /> <br /> :If you want one, just copy the contents of any existing convention templates to [[Template:User Howloween]] and change accordingly, then create the appropriate category and make it a subcategory of [[:Category:Wikifurries]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 00:36, 15 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Thank you so much. I shall try that. ^_^ --{{UT|Seamora}}<br /> <br /> == Terms with Multiple Definitions ==<br /> <br /> What is commonly done with terms that have more than one definition? Do they have separate pages, and if so , how does one do this?--{{UT|Seamora}}<br /> <br /> :Short answer - it depends! Long answer follows . . .<br /> <br /> :If the terms are related, but with differing nuances, then you might discuss them on the same page. For example, [[yiff]] has many meanings, but they are all related to a reasonably close degree, so they are all described on the same page. In general, you can tell &quot;reasonably close&quot; by the categories - if separate meanings would all fall under the same category then you would probably discuss them together (except people, who always have different articles).<br /> <br /> :Some terms have numerous unrelated meanings. In this case we divide it into separate pages with a qualifier in lowercase [unless a proper name] and inside parenthesis, and then create what is called a [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Disambiguation|disambiguation page]] for people who link to the term without parentheses. The page should have the &lt;tt&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;{{disambig}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/tt&gt; tag at the bottom. If another topic has the name within it, and a shorterned form might conflict, it is given the full title but also included in the disambiguation page.<br /> <br /> :You can see this at [[The Bestiary]], which links to [[The Bestiary (playing cards)]] and [[The Bestiary (comic)]] (which we know exists, just hasn't yet been written about) but also to ''[[The Bestiary's Terrie Smith Does Art Special]]''.<br /> <br /> :We may also make an indented, italic link at the top of the pages if there is possible confusion or the other article is somehow relevant, something like this (for a person called &quot;Delight&quot;):<br /> <br /> :&lt;tt&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;&quot;:''This article is about the [[:Category:People|person]]. For the chocolate bar, see &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Delight (chocolate bar)]].''&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/tt&gt; (or: &lt;tt&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;&quot;There is also a [[Delight (chocolate)|chocolate bar called Delight]].&quot;)&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/tt&gt;<br /> <br /> :In the case where one thing is clearly the more usual or &quot;official&quot; term, but there is another term that should have a different article, like [[skunk]] or [[Eurofurence]], then the general term is used without parentheses and the other term(s) have parentheses or are otherwise made different. We use the above method to link between them.<br /> <br /> :In rare cases, it may also be appropriate to add a parentheses even if there is currently no article at the non-parentheses term. This is done where there might be confusion about what the article should be about. For example, ''[[Furre!]]'' has links to [[Persona Play (Furre!)]] and [[Roleplay (Furre!)]]. This is because the term Roleplay has a special meaning in the context of ''Furre!'', and so it should not link to the main [[role-playing]] article, which has a redirect from Roleplay. For consistency, Persona Play has the same qualifier, even though there is not likely to be another article called Persona Play as it is at term that is specific to Furcadia/Furre!.<br /> <br /> :Deciding what to do in a particular case is sometimes tricky, but it is usually simple once you have done it a few times. Hope the above helps! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 08:41, 15 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thank you! ==<br /> <br /> Heya GreenReaper!! <br /> <br /> The page looks great, hun! Thanks for editing it a bit for me! There are also more WikiFur pages about me including Xelaros and Spirit Creations. I see that you guys don't have a page up for Maned Wolves which I would like to create. Thanks for your help! Give me suggestions any time!<br /> <br /> Inali Ke'aloha<br /> <br /> == Maned wolf page up! ==<br /> <br /> Heya, just wanted to let you know that I created a page about maned wolves since there wasn't one. It could use some editing, such as a contents box and the pictures off to the side. Thanks! --[[User:InaliKealoha|Inali]]<br /> <br /> :Well, it looks like you figured all that out! I moved it to [[Maned Wolf]] because it is a proper name of a species. The contents box will automatically appear if you have four headers in the article. If you do not (or to move it), you can make it appear by adding &lt;nowiki&gt;__TOC__&lt;/nowiki&gt; wherever you want. I sometimes put this inside a div tag that is set to float to the right. You can also hide it with &lt;nowiki&gt;__NOTOC__&lt;/nowiki&gt;.<br /> <br /> :One question ''I'' have, though - do you have permission from the people who made those pictures to put them on this site? While I appreciate that you wish to improve the articles, it is not enough to just state who owns the copyright of an image - if you do not have explicit permission (either by having asked them or through a blanket license or copyright wavier), we cannot display the images. That's what copyright means, after all . . . the right to make copies. Both the [http://www.arkgallery.org/ Ark Gallery] and Kenneth W. Fink/Root Resources sources appear to be non-free in this respect (indeed, the Ark Gallery seems to have a specific note at the bottom saying that images are not for reproduction elsewhere).<br /> <br /> :Oh, and one last thing - on talk pages, it's easier to know who's talking if you sign your name at the end. You can do this by typing &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt;, or just &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt; to do so without adding the date and time. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 03:13, 16 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I will email them and ask permission. If I can't get it from them, I'll ask some others until I get written permission. Where do I post that I have written permission when I get it? Thanks!<br /> <br /> [[User:InaliKealoha|InaliKealoha]] 05:22, 16 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :You should put the permission on the image information page, the one that comes up when you click on the image. You can edit it just like any other page. If you fail to gain permission for those images, let myself or another administrator know, and we will delete it from the WikiFur image store. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 14:04, 16 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I very strongly feel that we should delete the images; they can be uploaded again if permission is given. -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 16:16, 16 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Then do so. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 19:08, 16 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Done. Thanks for the confirmation. -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 23:24, 16 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == hi ==<br /> <br /> &quot;Girl's amateur use of makeup by applying too much and her voice make are evidence she is a teenager below the age of eighteen.&quot; That wasn't meant as personal, though. It was more a Sherlock Holmes style detective work. I just want to be clear it was not my intention. I probably wrote it wrong. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 14:10, 21 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :It just seemed . . . well, like something you'd post on LiveJournal rather than in an encyclopedia, in much the same way as you get anti-furries taking pictures of fat people at cons and going &quot;hey, look, aren't furries fat!&quot; - maybe that wasn't your intention, but it was the vibe I got from your words. Her ''own'' words make her look bad enough as it is without pointing out her use of makeup.<br /> <br /> :A secondary consideration is that page is intended to be just a list of links rather than an in-depth discussion of them. If you really want to write up the details (which would probably include details from both videos), you could make an article on it and then link to it, as with the other articles linked from the media links page. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 18:10, 21 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: Hmmm... you have an odd idea of copying the threads of talk and putting it on both talk pages. Well back to the topic, I also forgot the eyebrows were unplucked (I just wanted to write that down somewhere) as giving evidence that she was a minor. I think I'll put likely minor in the article. Umm.. I don't know if it's worthy of an article itself. It mostly is just a webcam video and then speaking of the vanity fair article. It would be different if it went through the things produced by actual furries, like her reaction to furry pornography art, but I think the video looks like little effort was put into it, and the humor was mostly the behavior of the girl herself. Encyclopedia Dramatica and some of the TV spots for instance do put some effort into their work. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 15:16, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I can just see that sequel: &quot;Valley Girl, Furry Porn&quot;. Nuts and berries, indeed! <br /> <br /> :::I actually think there's an opportunity to do a ''good'' video on furries and put it up there. The question would be whether or not anyone would go around with a videocamera at (say) Anthrocon and film it, and whether or not people would agree to its distribution. Maybe if it was done by someone already respected in the community.<br /> <br /> ::::Speaking for Anthrocon, I can tell you that our [http://www.anthrocon.org/rules-conduct Rules of Conduct] prohibit &quot;broadcasting&quot; of any video taken at the convention, which includes posting it online. --[[User:Dmuth|Giza]] 19:25, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::. . . without permission. I was thinking of one that would be done with permission. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 19:44, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::::Based on my experience, furries at cons get very nervous when there is a camera rolling, due to past bad experiences. I wouldn't recommend holding your breath on getting permission to broadcast anything that's filmed. :-/ --[[User:Dmuth|Giza]] 19:54, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::::Alas! On that general topic, it might be nice to do some kind of &quot;WikiFur Documentary&quot; thing. Maybe we could start with topics like &quot;acting out in [[fursuit]]&quot; or &quot;making your first [[tail]]&quot; and work up to tricky topics like &quot;attending a furry convention&quot;. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 19:59, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::::::Do you mean having documentation here on WikiFur, or elsewhere? If it's here on WikiFur, would such an article still be considered &quot;encyclopedic&quot;? --[[User:Dmuth|Giza]] 21:01, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::::::I believe that there is certainly room on WikiFur for material that is created by a particular person or group of people, something like &quot;RandomVulpine's guide to making furry feet&quot;. Some use their own websites for such material, but if people want to put them up on WikiFur then I think we should be open to that. These should naturally be clearly tagged with a template similar to the current [[:Template:personal-article|personal articles]] one, and should be placed in the User: namespace, or possibly a separate namespace designed for the purpose - Tutorial:, say. They could be linked to from regular articles, though it might be good to make a separately-headed section for them to separate them from the regular links that you'd get in ''See also''.<br /> <br /> :::I tend to copy talk because it's easier for other people to follow that way. I also archive my talk now and then, which makes it harder for people trying to follow the other side of conversation. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 18:55, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Off subject, when the game Spore comes out (a design evolution), I expect it may have something for furry gaming. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 15:18, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I agree, though [[Second Life]] seems to have grabbing most of the virtual furry world for now. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 18:55, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Testing... ==<br /> <br /> I notice one or two articles about me and my comics say they need improving. My question is this: How much is too much? I'd like to do my part without overdoing it, ya know?<br /> <br /> :--[[User:GraveyardGreg|Graveyard Greg]]<br /> <br /> :It's hard to do too much. I guess if you found yourself stretching for something to say, then it might be time to stop. Of course, I have a [[GreenReaper|fairly short article]], but then I don't have much to say about myself, as I've not had a long history in the furry fandom. [[Somewolf]] has a rather longer one. Certainly, comics can be and have been covered in significant depth. The ''[[Gaming Guardians]]'' article is a good idea of the minimum length that gives a good coverage of the key aspects of the topic, enough that it was featured, but it would certainly be possible to add to it without compromising that.<br /> <br /> :It is possible to go much farther, of course. For example, Wikipedia has a very extensive article on ''[[Wikipedia:Kevin and Kell|Kevin and Kell]]''. That would be unusual to see here (probably the closest is ''[[Dan and Mab's Furry Adventures]]'', and the plot is hardly covered there), but if people want to go that far on just about any topic it is welcome. We have many relatively short articles through happenstance, not choice. It's not like we're going to run out of paper, after all. :-)<br /> <br /> :The perfect article tells people everything they want to know about a topic. For some topics, this can be a lot. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 04:16, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Species and characters categories ==<br /> <br /> I think all of us will agree that having subcategories for species, and for characters of those species, is a good thing, up to a certain point. But I'm concerned that we may be getting a little carried away with it. Perhaps we're not to the point yet where we've overdone it and need to backpedal on some of the categories that have been created, but I think we're getting close to that point in some areas, and that it would be a good idea to stop and think about how far we want to go with this.<br /> <br /> What do the rest of you think? More species/character categories, or is it time to rein it in? --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 21:24, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I like to think of it as setting the framework for future growth. Although if we start using Latin names, then I think we've gone too far. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 22:42, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I look at it this way: If I'm a casual reader and I'm interested in, let's say, wolf characters. I click on the Wolf characters category and I see a whole bunch of names, plus (in this instance) sub-categories for Artic Wolf characters, Werewolves, and Wolf-Hybrid characters. Am I going to click on the subcategories to find the one or two listings beneath each entry, or ignore them and use the large main list? From a usability standpoint, I'm not sure I see the usefulness of breaking things down to the point where it's only two or three entries in a category.----[[User:DuncanDaHusky|DuncanDaHusky]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:DuncanDaHusky|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 11:54, 26 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Hiya! ==<br /> <br /> Hey there! Thanks for the warm greet. I didn't exactly get to finish last night due to work issues, AND the fact I wasn't completely sure what I was doing (lol) Looks like someone was kind enough to get the basics started for me anyway :-) <br /> <br /> As I learn a little more, I'd really like to be more active in the Wiki community so hopefully you'll see a little more of me ;-)<br /> <br /> <br /> Regards<br /> -=Wulfsige=-<br /> <br /> ==Thanks!==<br /> Thanks man, this is the best Wiki EVER! - MegaKitsune<br /> <br /> == Reply ==<br /> <br /> ' I guess you found your way here from the creatures wiki' <br /> <br /> Sort of, pretty long story. I think I found them both at relatively the same time, when I started using wikipedia. <br /> <br /> Thanks for the friendly welcomes! --[[User:Listeel|Listeel]] 14:32, 30 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Edit buttons ==<br /> <br /> How do you set up an edit button like Wikifur and the Creatures wiki have? I'm also a member at the Sporewiki and want to contribute a button like that for them {{Unsigned|Listeel}}<br /> <br /> :Check out the [[MediaWiki:Monobook.css]] page, in particular the section starting:<br /> <br /> :''/* Create more space to top and left of the section Edit links and put norn in it */''<br /> <br /> :If you copy this and adjust it for your wiki (you will need to change the URL to match the URL of an image uploaded at your wiki or somewhere else) then it should work. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 20:14, 30 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Infobox question ==<br /> <br /> I've been trying to make an Infobox for [[A Fox in the Works]] page with little luck, something like what Wikipedia has for TV series (ie [[Wikipedia:Babylon_5]]. I'm really don't know what I'm doing, and it's something that would probably work better as a template so it can be used for comics and other furry story series.<br /> <br /> I can't find any help on making an infobox like this, and what I try to do comes up more then a bit fragged. Any help would be greatly appreciated. --[[User:Fox Cutter|Fox Cutter]] 05:13, 2 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Probably the best place to start is [[Wikipedia:Template:Infobox|Wikipedia's sample infobox template]], which is relatively simple as they go. The one you mentioned, [[Wikipedia:Template:Infobox Television|Template:Infobox Television]] is indeed hideously complex, in part because it relies on expressions (which are not yet available at Wikia, so it will give hideously mangled results).<br /> <br /> :Start simple. Just copy the template to a blank Template: page here (perhaps [[Template:Infobox]]!), and then try it out on a page. Try modifying various things, trying it out in the preview. Have a look at [[Wikipedia:Help:Template|Wikipedia's template help]]. It is not, unfortunately, very clear, but it starts off with some useful information. Our [[WikiFur:Templates|templates section]] has various ones that definitely work here, which you could copy from as well. If you get stuck, ask for help on a discussion page, saying what you want it to do, and someone will probably lend a hand (and if not, prod me :-). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 06:00, 2 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Wikipedia.org Extinctioners page being considered for deletion ==<br /> <br /> I'm so upset right now because my Extinctioners page at Wikipedia.org is being considered for deletion, if I try and update the one here, will it also be deleted, please let me know in my talk(if it works) --[[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]]<br /> <br /> :On the contrary, we would be glad to have your contributions, as long as the copyright status of the images is satisfactory (either GFDL or another open form of licensing, or permission for use on WikiFur). As you can see on [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Extinctioners|Wikipedia's deletion proposal]], their reasoning is that ''[[Extinctioners]]'' is not sufficiently notable in the general world for an article. WikiFur is all about the furry fandom, so that's not applicable here. Just remember that as with Wikipedia articles are community efforts - after all, you copied the initial article from here - and you should do fine. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 23:51, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Cleanup? ==<br /> <br /> Well, I've finished both the Extinctioners page and the individual character pages but some of them have a clean up not at the top, how can you clean up what little (in some cases) is there? --[[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]]<br /> <br /> :Perhaps they were referring to the manner in which the text was phrased? For example, it might have been written in first-person, when third-person is more appropriate for an encyclopedia. It might also be that formatting was non-standard or that the article was not correctly categorized (we really need to get specific templates for these, right now cleanup is used for everything). You can always ask the person who put the tag on the article what their precise reasoning was. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 00:42, 7 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Horizontal or vertical? ==<br /> <br /> Hey listen, I'm not being a prud but someone named Dmuth has edited some of my character section (I'm not reporting the editing itself) but he caused the multiple pics the stack ontop each other in the right hand side of the screen, I've fixed mos of them, you can see the original ones he did in the jistory section, please let me know what you think of the matter, alright, thank you. --[[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]]<br /> <br /> :I personally think they look better side by side ''in that particular case''. Those pictures happen to be particularly tall, and the fact that there is little text to go with it means that a better use of the space is to have them in a row. Most WikiFur articles have a lot more text in relation to the numbers of pictures, which is why the convention is to have them at the side, or in a combination of side pictures and a gallery as you can see in [[The Forest]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 00:42, 7 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Andorozon pics ==<br /> <br /> The Creator of the Andorozon comics has sent me an e-mail giving me permission to use his picsm how do I forward you the e-mail to get the pics licenced, the pics up already were drawn by Shawntae Howard and were licenced but Ken Singshow is going to send his own pics, what do I do? --[[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]]<br /> <br /> :I would suggest that you just attach a copy of the email giving permission to the [[Talk:Andorozon|discussion page]] of the [[Andorozon]] article. That way everyone who looks at the article. You could also add a note on the image upload description that links to that page (something like &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Talk:Andorozon|permission information]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;).<br /> <br /> :Also, when writing messages on talk pages please sign your name by putting &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt; at the end so we know who's talking and so who to reply to. It's possible to find that information out by looking at the edit history, but it's a lot easier if it's right there. Thanks! :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 15:34, 5 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Heya. I've noticed that the text of Maxwell Manx (Copy Cat) looks to have come from http://www.geocities.com/extinctioners/profile_copycat.html and I assume that's similarly the case for at least some of the other character articles. Could you clarify that for me? I gather we have permission to use the character images here, but I don't remember reference to text descriptions, and I'm ever anxious about copyright concerns. -- Sine 00:29, 7 June 2006 (UTC) <br /> <br /> I understand what you are saying but believe me, I have been given permission from Shawntae Howard himself to use both his pics and text in this and other related articles pertaining to Extinctioners, listen could you give me your e-mail address so I can forward his e-mail of him giving permission or should I talk about this with GreenReaper what should I do?RVDDP2501 01:17, 7 June 2006 (UTC) <br /> <br /> I'd suggest copying the e-mail to the talk page of the Extinctioners article; I've seen similar things here previously. You could certainly check with GreenReaper to confirm the procedure. <br /> It's great that we have all this Extinctioners material to work with, and that you've been so active with it. -- Sine 02:09, 7 June 2006 (UTC) <br /> <br /> (forgive me if you have already said something on this matter, my memory isn't al that good) so EXACTLY what must I do?<br /> <br /> :All we need on the talk page (or on the Licensing section of the image pages) is something to show that a) you have asked to use the author's copyrighted works, on this website or on Wikipedia (which has similar requirements) and b) that he has said yes. This would probably be your initial request to him, and his reply. This should not a general agreement that you can write a wiki page about the topic (you could do that without asking), but something that makes it clear that you intend to use some related parts of his copyrighted works in the pages - as you say, &quot;both his pics and text&quot;. That is the thing that requires permission, because it is his right to allow copies of his work on this site (or not to allow them, as he sees fit).<br /> <br /> :If you have previously asked for specific permission to use parts of his works rather than just writing ''about'' them, then that's fine - just put a copy of that on the page. If not, you should do so. You could point him to the wiki pages that have already been written (including some of the pictures) and ask him if that kind of use is OK. You could also invite him to look at the [http://furry.wikia.com/wiki/WikiFur:Copyrights copyrights page], and/or to contact us directly if he has questions. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 05:12, 7 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Forum ==<br /> <br /> Good timezone. The [[Forum:Index|forums]] are all set up and ready to go. Let me know if you want help changing anything. I added a [[Help:Forums|help page]] but it's a bit basic at the moment, because I'm still figuring out how things work and what we need to know! It will be good to see how it goes. Later -- [[User:Sannse|sannse]] [[Wikia:User talk:Sannse|(talk)]] 13:41, 8 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Hey, man==<br /> <br /> Thanks for the welcome and comments. I got tagged for cleanup for my article, but I'm not exactly sure where I should start looking to clean it up. Any thoughts? --[[User:Réizàr]]<br /> <br /> :You'd have to ask [[User:DuncanDaHusky]] about that, since he tagged it. However, this passage does spring to mind as one example:<br /> <br /> ::''His most noticeable feature is the moon-and-star tattoo on the back of his left hand, but when asked for a meaning, the most one can expect of the enigmatic weretiger is a sliht shrug, not out of rudeness, but because he has yet to find an actual meaning for it beyond something he drew one day in a fit of boredom.''<br /> <br /> :It's an encyclopedia article, not a MUCK character description. It could just as easily be something like &quot;His most noticeable feature is the moon-and-star tattoo on the back of his left hand, which has no inherent meaning.&quot; There's no call to be mysterious about it. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 23:59, 8 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Ah, okay. Odd though; that's been there for a while, and I was referring to myself IRL. I'll look it over though, and think of a way to simplify it. Thanks.<br /> --[[Réizàr]]<br /> <br /> :::That's just an example of something that popped out at me. He might have been looking at at something else. Given the size of WikiFur, not all people will have read all articles, and so they may come across something that they disagree with that they'd also have disagreed with beforehand. They may also have a threshold before they actually do something about it. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 02:00, 9 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Yeah, it's pretty big here. I'll skim over it a few more times and ask Duncan what else he thinks needs to be cleaned up. One of these days I'll get it right. Hah.<br /> <br /> == Furpile ==<br /> <br /> I've noticed that sometimes the [[WikiFur:Furpile|Furpile]] link goes unupdated, so I've been choosing articles for it. Essentially I've been clicking &quot;Random page&quot; until something suitable turns up. I'm only trying to keep it from going empty, so I won't update it further than a day ahead. So if you want to nominate things you still can. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 04:06, 10 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Thanks! As noted on the page, you can choose as many as you like at once, as long as you don't repeat stuff that's coming up or was recently requested. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 05:35, 10 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thanks from the newbie ==<br /> I just want to say thanks for correcting my spelling errors and welcoming me on my first page. Very appriciated! ~[[Kuzzy]]<br /> <br /> == Galciv ==<br /> <br /> I asked you some questions on that wiki. I don't know if you check it often, so I will note it here. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 13:47, 10 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Hmmm you are faster on checking encyclopedia dramatica than here. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 22:20, 10 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Patience. I get watchlist emails everywhere, I just sometimes don't get around to pressing &quot;Save page&quot; until I have had time to give a proper response. It's only just past breakfast here. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 22:22, 10 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :: Hmm watchlists can send emails. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 23:10, 10 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Watchlists can do everything! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 04:06, 12 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Flyers ==<br /> <br /> I forgot your room number already. But I trust that you found my note about the flyers in the meetup page. I even tried looking for you for an hour. That was rather fun. Spot the norn in the furpile. And without a cell number, I couldn't directly contact you.<br /> <br /> Anyway. See you at the meetup! ----[[User:Markus|Markus]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:Markus|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 07:49, 16 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Don't have a cell phone! But yes, we did indeed meetup, so that was OK. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 01:52, 19 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Recent Changes Error? ==<br /> <br /> Recent changes has the following line in it: &quot;Below are the last 50 changes in the last 7 days, as of $3.&quot; I don't think the $3 is intentional, is it? [[User:SpazKitty|Spaz Kitty]]<br /> <br /> :No, you're right - there's been something up with recent changes since the most recent upgrade. There's a bug filed for it on Wikia, it's just rather low-priority right now, especially since it's probably something that will have to be fixed in the main MediaWiki source code tree anyway. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 05:28, 19 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Brillliant Right! ==<br /> <br /> http://www.truechristian.com/furriesa.html<br /> Interesting! Just wanted to see what you guys think.<br /> <br /> :It's good to see such an authoritative and popular site covering the topic! Shame about the colour scheme, but eh, what can you do? --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 17:20, 19 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::How much of that site did you look at? Not exactly the most flattering portayal of furries. If anything, I'm glad they chose a color scheme that makes it look like an amateur rant. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 18:43, 19 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I was being sarcastic. :-) I guess I should have included the ;-) . . . --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 18:46, 19 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Hmm, okay. My bad. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 19:46, 19 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Hello! ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for the warm welcome! ^-^ I thought this was the best way to display our music to the furry community! I'll be sure to ask you if i need help.<br /> Thanks again,<br /> Ether<br /> <br /> == Extinctioners at Answers.com ==<br /> <br /> Hey GreenReaper, RVDDP2501 here, I just found an Extinctioners page (flawed) at Answer.com I told them about the problems and changes they could make, it looks like an original version I had at wikipedia.org (I guess they hadn't checked for updated versions) I also told them about Wikifurs version, they haven't replied yet, so what do you think - http://www.answers.com/topic/extinctioners, I mean I can't believe how my pages are spreading, you know. - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 19:48, 20 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :They are apt to taking the contents of Wikipedia, aren't they? They do that for a lot of other articles as well - it is an automated system. I doubt they will add WikiFur to their list, though it's always a possibility. They will probably update from Wikipedia over the next few months. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 19:55, 20 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> yeah, your probably right, anyways if you have any ideas, suggestion, etc. about making the page(s) better, please let me know, thanks - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 20:32, 20 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thanks ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for the great welcome. If there is anything that I can do to help, feel free to ask.<br /> <br /> ~Nevar<br /> <br /> == regards ==<br /> <br /> Ghear maidth agus :)<br /> thank you for the welcome. I, too, joined since someone created a wiki of me and my fiance. I figured I needed to correct our wikis and make them as unbiased as possible.<br /> <br /> == Hi. ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for welcoming me. I myself am a [[wizard]] at [[Frontier Galaxy MUCK]] so I figured if nothing else, it'd be my duty to correct that '''that''' little entry. Though I'm blindly stumbling through Wiki's system presently, glad I'm only editing and not adding articles, need to read a bit more before I try something like that. (And I would if I didn't have homework for a test, heh!) --[[User:Autolycus|Autolycus]]<br /> <br /> :Well, it's great that you had the time to fix it up - and should you find any more later, feel free to try your hand at making articles yourself. If it looks like you need help I'm sure one of our regular contributors will step in and lend a hand. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 07:01, 25 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Extinctioners improvement ==<br /> <br /> Hey GreenReaper, thanks a whole lot with the list improvement, seriously, thanks, if there is any other ideas on how to make the page(s) better, by all mean, do what you think is right. - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 02:01, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Of course. In this case I just thought it could be a little more compact before I linked it as our comic of the week. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 02:04, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> &quot;comic of the week&quot;? really!, this is just about the comic or the page as well? I don't quite fully understand what you mean? please let me know, thanks - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 02:08, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Look at the bottom left of the front page. Our comics of the week can be based on various criteria, but in this case I featured it because of the extensive coverage on WikiFur. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 02:11, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> oh, ok, I see it, sorry about that, listen I wanna ask you opinion and/or permission on something, I was planning on creating a page for a Extinctioners character called Krystin [http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/26978911/ deviantart.com] but I was not sure if you and/or Wikifur would approve of the pic of the character which IS a bit mature, I did an edit though in which I put a black back covering the &quot;chest area&quot;, do you want me to upload the censored pic without making the caracter page for you to look at and decide as to whether or not it would be appropriate to make the page with the pic? - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 02:52, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Go ahead and upload the original, if it is appropriate for the character. [[WikiFur:What WikiFur is not#WikiFur is not censored for the protection of minors|WikiFur is not censored for minors]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 02:58, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Ok, I just uploaded the pic of Krystin, the pic name is [[:Image:Extinctioners_cast_Krystin.jpg]], please let me know what you think and if I should go ahead with this character's page, thank you - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 03:09, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Seems reasonable enough. Go for it! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 03:19, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Thank you, I though I would do the right thing and discuss this with you first about the pic before I did something that would be disapproved of by you and others at wikifur, I do not like to make mistakes, ok - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 03:22, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Listen, thanks a whole lot for removing the nude pic of Krystin, I got an e-mail from Shawntae Howard saying he would prefer I not use that pic of Krystin due to it being so mature, he said he would send me another one to use in time, so until then, I uploaded the other version of the same pic only now with a black bar covering her chest, ok, thanks for removing those pics, I couldn't figure out how to do it. (God, I hope I haven't pissed him off) - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 22:11, 28 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :No problem. For future reference, you can always overwrite an image with a newer one by uploading a file and specifying the same destination filename, although deleting it entirely requires an administrator (and it is currently an irreversible operation). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 22:15, 28 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I though that was what i had done, I guess I messed up, I'm sorry to do that to you - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 22:18, 28 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I think you did, too - I saw the original had a black bar on it, but perhaps you didn't notice, because soon after you uploaded a (Censored) version as well. [[User:SpazKitty|Spaz Kitty]]<br /> <br /> :I think I know what happened - you uploaded it, but didn't force a refresh by going directly to the image file (not the image page) and pressing Ctrl+F5. Your computer still thought that the image was valid, as it had it cached, so it showed the uncensored version. It's often a problem for new wiki founders who add logos, as it looks like it's not changing, even though it is. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 22:23, 28 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Any ways, long story short, thanks for removing the pic and I hope I don't make the same mistake again, thank you. - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 22:38, 28 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> sorry, forget previous post, prolem fixed itself, sorry - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 17:32, 3 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == (sic) ==<br /> <br /> oh, my bad, man. i didn't know. thanks for telling me :) by the way, that article, [[Wolfie]], isn't about me. <br /> [[User:Wolfie|Wolfie]] 13:41, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Meep ==<br /> <br /> So, uh, I like, decided to add stuff cuz people I knew/knew of weren't on here, and uh.... seems they think I put too much D8<br /> <br /> I -was- careful to put only stuff I knew was publically visible, and I did add a bit more than I thought was needed, cuz I thought anyone concerned with privacy, like say other wiki contributors, would be like &quot;Hmm maybe you should delete that&quot; &lt;br /&gt;<br /> instead of suddenly &quot;OMG stalkers! everywhere! nuuuuu!&quot; o.o;<br /> This really upset me cuz they're people I interact with at least on occasion, and I value their opinion, so having them think I'm crazy(er)... &lt;br /&gt;<br /> I didn't tell anyone cuz I wanted a &quot;professional&quot; distance, if they knew I was doing it... well, &quot;the observer changes the observed&quot;.<br /> <br /> And honestly, I didnt -try- that hard, maybe an hour on each person... after all it's '''wiki''' and can be edited later...<br /> and I was mostly tryin to just sketch their persona since it's in their ART so much y'know ._.<br /> <br /> Anyway I explained myself some on [[Talk:Seel Dingo|Seel's talk page]], because I want to make everyone as happy as possible.<br /> <br /> PS- I'd be willing to have anything I do &quot;depersonalized&quot; but won't do it myself if it makes it look like I'm just covering my ass. Of course, yeah, it's a wiki and past changes can be viewed...<br /> <br /> --[[User:BennuTeomabar|BennuTeomabar]] 16:46, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Don't worry about it. I think the invididual involved is being a little out of line. Basically they're complaining because you reposted some information that was publically available. It seems to me that their worldview is that nobody should be allowed to talk about anybody else. We don't subscribe to that view here. :-) --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 16:55, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Wikifur news ==<br /> <br /> I couldn't figure out how to add a news item. :/ I thought the passing of [[Peter S. Beagle]]'s mother (Peter being the author of The Last Unicorn) might be of note to some furry fans. I just received word from Beagle's newsletter and it pointed to this page ... http://www.conlanpress.com/html/rebecca_beagle.html --[[User:Chibiabos|Chibiabos]]<br /> <br /> :To post a news item, you create the link to the template as you did (preferably in a preview first), then make the page that it links to, and add a link to that page to [[Template:Newsbar]] and the [[WikiFur:Community Central]] page.<br /> <br /> :However, I would have to say that I would not really agree with posting it as news on WikiFur. Wikipedia used to have the somewhat pithy phrase &quot;It's sad when people die, but Wikipedia is not the place to honor them,&quot; and I feel this is true for WikiFur as well. People (particularly the mothers and fathers of the older people in the fandom) die all the time.<br /> <br /> :While the death of a person already relevant to WikiFur just for being in the fandom is a fact that should go on the the page about them, it is not site news. Moreover, all previous news items have been directly related to WikiFur. If it had been someone of major relevance to the fandom I might have thought differently - say, [[Uncle Kage]], or ''maybe'', at a stretch, [[Grandma Kage]] (who is relevant enough to have a page, but not much of one yet). However, we don't even have an entry on Peter yet, let alone his mother. We're not a furry news aggregator, and this doesn't really seem to count as furry news as much as a personal loss. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 23:08, 27 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Multiple edits ==<br /> <br /> I really apologize for all the edits, I'm new to any sort of wiki, so I'm just trying to get it as perfect as possible XD --[[User:Nekonaru Letao|Nekonaru Letao]]<br /> <br /> :It's no real problem. Perfection is an admirable goal to have. :-) Oh, one more tip - you can sign your name on talk pages with &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~, or ~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt; to get the date as well. It helps people reading to see who said what! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 01:50, 29 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Minor Bug on Recent Changes page ==<br /> <br /> Howdy! I just noticed a small bug on the Recent Changes page. At the top of the page (at least according my my preferences), it reads:<br /> <br /> Below are the last 200 changes in the last 7 days, as of $3.<br /> <br /> I'm thinking that that &quot;$3&quot; is a variable that isn't being called correctly. It's obviously a minor thing, but something I thought might be a quick fix if you've got the permissions.----[[User:DuncanDaHusky|DuncanDaHusky]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:DuncanDaHusky|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 16:11, 29 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Yeah. It's been like that since we upgraded to 1.7 alpha. It's a known bug, but it was low priority for the Wikia guys. I'll have a chat with them and see if it's a quick fix. If not, it can be removed by editing [[MediaWiki:Rcnote]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 16:27, 29 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Can you help? ==<br /> <br /> On [[furluminati]], Spirou constantly vandalizes the article, but no matter what I put he reverts me back to his version (and he has not even corrected the grammar/spelling errors in it). I have tried and tried to please him, but I've seen his type and they just revert nonstop as they like--just like willy on wheels likes to move pages to &quot;on wheels&quot; and others like to blank pages, Spirou gets his vandalism high from reverting. I keep trying to please him, but obviously he is just out to cause trouble by revert vandalism. I have put hours and hours into fixing it up and he does not care. Spirou is not here to fix anything, he is just to harass me by reverting anything I do on the article, even fixing his grammar. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 02:37, 30 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I'm guessing GreenReaper is away right now. Have either of you heard of the [[Wikipedia:WP:3RR|three revert rule]] on Wikipedia? I think it can apply here on WikiFur too. I'll block for 24 hours if I see a violation of the three revert rule from either of you. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 03:10, 30 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Spirou will then just revert 3 times a day, but still vandalize. Also on wikipedia reverting vandalism doesn't count toward 3RR. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 03:22, 30 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I was away for a half-hour, but I am back right now. While the three revert rule is not a rule on WikiFur at this time, its rationale is sound. Page edits should not turn into revert wars. I am looking more carefully at the edits made to see what to suggest in this particular circumstance. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 03:14, 30 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Spirou isn't trying to edit, just revert. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 03:22, 30 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::I ''said'', I'm looking. Patience, please. :-) I would also suggest that you focus on the edits, rather than the person behind them. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 03:25, 30 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::His last edit was a revert again, but he changed some words and acted like it wasn't. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 03:28, 30 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> You locked the article on Spirou's version and he's the cause. :( [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 04:10, 30 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Page protection is used to prevent further edits while the situation is delt with. [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Protection policy#A temporary protection is used for:|It does not express]] a preference for the version that happens to be protected. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 04:16, 30 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == What was the killhamster article here? ==<br /> <br /> You said: &quot;I would note that the article about &quot;killhamster&quot;, whose article was used as a reference, was deleted, twice, for being totally full of nonsense added by himself and his friends.&quot;<br /> <br /> I referenced his livejournal and the edit dispute in the LJ was talking about on ED. Umm... did he make an article on wikifur? [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 09:06, 1 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Yes. It was at various times a duplicate of User:Killhamster on ED, and/or random nonsense. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 09:15, 1 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == *Waves.* ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for leaving me a note. I've meant to put the link to the Eurofurence LJ instead of the website, I guess I was distracted when I added &quot;Eurofurence&quot; to the list. :B Sorry.<br /> <br /> :No problem!<br /> <br /> I tried to reply to you using the &quot;send mail&quot; option, but apparently I have to get a confirmation code, and while I tried a couples of times, it never seems to reach me. It's not in my &quot;spam&quot; box either, so I was wondering if something was broken on Wikifur's side, or what should I do.<br /> <br /> :Not sure about that. It should come from jasonr@wikia.com, if that helps.<br /> <br /> ::Okay, I made a research in my mailbox AND spambox, and I've never received any e-mail from this addy. I don't know what's wrong, it just doesn't seem to send me anything when I ask for a confirmation code.<br /> <br /> Also, and this may sound like a very stupid question, but.. I was wondering how to create articles here? I've only found help to edit existing articles; reading the artists pages I noticed some less-well known artists as well, as if they or someone had created a page about them, but I'm not sure the admins themselves did, and I can't find how to start a page from scratch in the help pages. Is it a privilege-thing or did I miss the option or an help page somewhere? Is it related to the fact I haven't entered any confirmation code yet (see first issue in paragraph above)?<br /> <br /> :There are several ways that (I think they're on [[Help:Editing]]) - try to go to a page with the search box and click the red link when you don't find it, make a link in an existing page (or in a preview) and click on it, or just change the URL to the appropriate one and click '''edit this page'''. It is something anyone can do (even anonymous users) and is not related to email confirmation. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 17:12, 1 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Ooh okay, thanks for our help! by the way, do you see my signature when I reply (as in, my username and link to &quot;talk&quot; and such) or do I have to add it manually?<br /> <br /> :::No, you need to add it with &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~ (or ~~~ to just add the name)&lt;/nowiki&gt;. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 16:21, 3 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Person exclusion without current article ==<br /> <br /> Within the last few minutes I've had the misfortune of encountering a situation with which I've had no prior experience -- an unregistered user has removed a single name from the [[:Category:People/People to add]] page. I had reverted the change once and the same IP has made the change again. I've now left a message on their [[User talk:69.231.20.143|talk page]] about removing information without reason and a link to our personal information policy. I then reverted the change again. I think that the specificity of these edits might indicate that this IP is of the person concerned and I would greatly appreciate advice on how to procede if they should decide to edit the page again without providing more information to us. -- [[User:DeVandalizer|DeVandalizer]] 19:19, 1 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :In this specific case, I don't think there's a real problem with removing names on the People to add list. It actually saves time over us having to go through the process of excluding an article later (unless someone makes it via another link). There's not much &quot;information&quot; in just a name. :-)<br /> <br /> :In general, there's no need to tell people they're going to be banned for removing stuff in the first instance, except in very bad situations. [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Assume good faith|Assume good faith]] - chances are, they ''are'' that person, and are just not particularly interested in having an article. Be welcoming, and then you will probably get a better response from that person (and they will have a better impression of WikiFur, so we avoid situations like [http://thefoxes.livejournal.com/26151.html this]). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 20:49, 1 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Please see my response on my [[User talk:DeVandalizer]], I watch talk pages that I edit (no need to copy discussion) :) -- [[User:DeVandalizer|DeVandalizer]] 06:09, 2 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == New Featured Article ==<br /> I wouldn't mind taking over the duty of writing the summary for featured articles for this week. I looked for something to write about but I can't really find any consensus on the featured article candidates page. What articles would you suggest? -- [[User:DeVandalizer|DeVandalizer]] 05:37, 3 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I would suggest that you have a look at some of the [[Special:Longpages|long pages]] and see if there are any on there that have not been featured. Longness in and of itself is not a sign of greatness, but articles should have ''some'' length to be featured, so it's a good start. Once you think you've found a good choice, try to condense the gist of it down into three or four fairly short paragraphs, with appropriate links to other articles, and [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=WikiFur:This_week%27s_featured_article/Week_27%2C_2006&amp;action=edit replace the redirect with it]. Have a look at [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=WikiFur:This_week%27s_featured_article/Week_26%2C_2006&amp;action=edit last week's] examples of formatting and linking. And good luck! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 05:49, 3 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Code error, etc. ==<br /> <br /> Couple of things...One, on both the WikiFur homepage and your talk page, &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;clear:both&quot;/&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt; appears. Two, [[Talk:SCHLITZER]] is a leftover from the Crabs crabs crabs! x 50 vandal that previously redirected to my talk page - not sure if you saw that all the way back in recent changes (I've been boredly busy today XD). [[User:SpazKitty|Spaz Kitty]] 02:47, 4 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I've had a chat with the Wikia admins and this is a temporary error in the MediaWiki version that they are testing. I've replaced it with the equivalent (but working) &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;div style&quot;clear:both&quot;&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt; in those two places. If there are other pages affected, they should be fixed after the testing concludes. It looks like [[User:Sine|Sine]] got the other problem. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 03:38, 4 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Hello ==<br /> <br /> Hi GreenReaper, thanks forleaving a note on my talk page. [[User:Lilim|Lilim]] 04:41, 4 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thanks ==<br /> Thanks for helping me delete the left over pages from the recent vandalism. It's much appreciated :) -- [[User:DeVandalizer|DeVandalizer]] 23:16, 4 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Seemed like a similar pattern to last time. If it happens again I'll get the staff to do a checkuser to get their IP and see if we can do a range block. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 23:21, 4 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Sounds like a good plan. I saw the user page creation in recent changes and I had some inkling something was going to go down -- the pattern was far too similar. -- [[User:DeVandalizer|DeVandalizer]] 23:28, 4 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Google Analytics Stats ==<br /> <br /> Any chance you could sign me up to access wikifur's stats on google analytics? -- [[User:DeVandalizer|DeVandalizer]] 00:00, 5 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Sure, if you tell me your GMail or Google Account address, either here or [[Special:Emailuser/GreenReaper|privately]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 00:02, 5 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::No problem, my gmail account is devandalizer@gmail.com -- [[User:DeVandalizer|DeVandalizer]] 00:06, 5 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Done. You may access the statistics [https://www.google.com/analytics/home/report?rid=52980 here]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 00:10, 5 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::I am in. Thank you. -- [[User:DeVandalizer|DeVandalizer]] 00:14, 5 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Categorisation ==<br /> <br /> I don't feel that the term &quot;Character&quot; applies really. It insinuates that my werewolf side is a fabrication, whereas that is how I see myself spiritually and have done for a very long time.<br /> <br /> The only characters I have are Thalyi and Boswell, they have always been pure fabrications and are the only ones I &quot;play&quot;. Simply put, I am Graafen.<br /> <br /> I hope this isn't too confusing.</div>

Graafen Blackpaw //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Graafen_Blackpaw 2006-05-15T01:18:03Z

<p>Graafen Blackpaw: Removed catergory: Werewolf Characters</p> <hr /> <div>[[Image:Graafen_001sized.jpg|thumb|right|Graafen Blackpaw by [[Kaijima A. Frostfang]]]]<br /> <br /> '''Graafen Blackpaw''' is a [[werewolf]] and member of the Blackpaw pack. Born in 1983, he has lived in [[Wikipedia:Yorkshire|Yorkshire]] for his entire life and currently lives in [[Wikipedia:Wakefield|Wakefield]], [[Wikipedia:West Yorkshire|West Yorkshire]], [[Wikipedia:United Kingdom|United Kingdom]], working for a large IT company as a Customer Support Technician. He plans to move to [[Wikipedia:America|America]] at some point in the future but is unsure of when.<br /> <br /> Graafen has also been known as '''Thalyi E. Wolfe''' since 2000.<br /> <br /> == Fursuits ==<br /> <br /> Graafen is an avid [[fursuit]]er. He currently owns two fursuits: ''Thalyi'' and ''Boswell''.<br /> <br /> '''Thalyi''' debuted at [[Further Confusion 2005]]. Created by [[Jax The Purple Bat]] from Graafen's online character, Thalyi is a hybrid of Wolf and domestic Cat which gives him a pronounced cleft lip and a long wolf tail.<br /> <br /> '''Boswell''' debuted at [[Further Confusion 2006]]. Created by [[Noble A. Wolf]], Boswell is a black and purple furred 'gothic' skunk.<br /> <br /> Graafen's next fursuit is a werewolf suit, created by [http://www.runningwolfpack.com Running Wolf Productions] and is due to debute on [[Wikipedia:Halloween|Halloween]] 2006.<br /> <br /> {{person-stub}}<br /> <br /> == External links ==<br /> {{Contributor|Graafen Blackpaw}}<br /> * ''[http://www.livejournal.com/users/thalyi Tails of a closet Werewolf]'' - Thalyi Wolfe / Graafen Blackpaw's [[LiveJournal]]<br /> * [http://www.werewolf-inside.com/ Werewolf-Inside] - Graafen's personal website.<br /> * [http://www.werewolf-inside.com/gallery/ Werewolf-Inside Gallery]<br /> <br /> [[Category:People]][[Category:Fursuiters]]<br /> [[Category:United Kingdom]]<br /> [[Category:1983 births]]</div>

Graafen Blackpaw //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Graafen_Blackpaw 2006-02-27T15:49:11Z

<p>Graafen Blackpaw: Updated wiki link to Jax's article.</p> <hr /> <div>[[Image:Graafen_001sized.jpg|thumb|right|Graafen Blackpaw by [[Kaijima A. Frostfang]]]]<br /> <br /> '''Graafen Blackpaw''' is a [[werewolf]] and member of the Blackpaw pack. Born in 1983, he has lived in [[Wikipedia:Yorkshire|Yorkshire]] for his entire life and currently lives in [[Wikipedia:Wakefield|Wakefield]], [[Wikipedia:West Yorkshire|West Yorkshire]], [[Wikipedia:United Kingdom|United Kingdom]], working for a large IT company as a Customer Support Technician. He plans to move to [[Wikipedia:America|America]] at some point in the future but is unsure of when.<br /> <br /> Graafen has also been known as '''Thalyi E. Wolfe''' since 2000.<br /> <br /> == Fursuits ==<br /> <br /> Graafen is an avid [[fursuit]]er. He currently owns two fursuits: ''Thalyi'' and ''Boswell''.<br /> <br /> '''Thalyi''' debuted at [[Further Confusion 2005]]. Created by [[Jax The Purple Bat]] from Graafen's online character, Thalyi is a hybrid of Wolf and domestic Cat which gives him a pronounced cleft lip and a long wolf tail.<br /> <br /> '''Boswell''' debuted at [[Further Confusion 2006]]. Created by [[Noble A. Wolf]], Boswell is a black and purple furred 'gothic' skunk.<br /> <br /> Graafen's next fursuit is a werewolf suit, created by [http://www.runningwolfpack.com Running Wolf Productions] and is due to debute on [[Wikipedia:Halloween|Halloween]] 2006.<br /> <br /> {{person-stub}}<br /> <br /> == External links ==<br /> {{Contributor|Graafen Blackpaw}}<br /> * ''[http://www.livejournal.com/users/thalyi Tails of a closet Werewolf]'' - Thalyi Wolfe / Graafen Blackpaw's [[LiveJournal]]<br /> * [http://www.werewolf-inside.com/ Werewolf-Inside] - Graafen's personal website.<br /> * [http://www.werewolf-inside.com/gallery/ Werewolf-Inside Gallery]<br /> <br /> [[Category:People]][[Category:Fursuiters]]<br /> [[Category:1983 births]][[Category:United Kingdom]]</div>

Graafen Blackpaw //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Graafen_Blackpaw 2006-02-02T13:09:50Z

<p>Graafen Blackpaw: Rewritten due to time passage.</p> <hr /> <div>[[Image:Graafen_001sized.jpg|thumb|right|Graafen Blackpaw by [[Kaijima A. Frostfang]]]]<br /> <br /> '''Graafen Blackpaw''' is a [[werewolf]] and member of the Blackpaw pack. Born in 1983, he has lived in [[Wikipedia:Yorkshire|Yorkshire]] for his entire life and currently lives in [[Wikipedia:Wakefield|Wakefield]], [[Wikipedia:West Yorkshire|West Yorkshire]], [[Wikipedia:United Kingdom|United Kingdom]], working for a large IT company as a Customer Support Technician. He plans to move to [[Wikipedia:America|America]] at some point in the future but is unsure of when.<br /> <br /> Graafen has also been known as '''Thalyi E. Wolfe''' since 2000.<br /> <br /> == Fursuits ==<br /> <br /> Graafen is an avid [[fursuit]]er. He currently owns two fursuits: ''Thalyi'' and ''Boswell''.<br /> <br /> '''Thalyi''' debuted at [[Further Confusion 2005]]. Created by [[Jax]] from Graafen's online character, Thalyi is a hybrid of Wolf and domestic Cat which gives him a pronounced cleft lip and a long wolf tail.<br /> <br /> '''Boswell''' debuted at [[Further Confusion 2006]]. Created by [[Noble A. Wolf]], Boswell is a black and purple furred 'gothic' skunk.<br /> <br /> Graafen's next fursuit is a werewolf suit, created by [http://www.runningwolfpack.com Running Wolf Productions] and is due to debute on [[Wikipedia:Halloween|Halloween]] 2006.<br /> <br /> {{person-stub}}<br /> <br /> == External links ==<br /> {{Contributor|Graafen Blackpaw}}<br /> * ''[http://www.livejournal.com/users/thalyi Tails of a closet Werewolf]'' - Thalyi Wolfe / Graafen Blackpaw's [[LiveJournal]]<br /> * [http://www.werewolf-inside.com/ Werewolf-Inside] - Graafen's personal website.<br /> * [http://www.werewolf-inside.com/gallery/ Werewolf-Inside Gallery]<br /> <br /> [[Category:People]][[Category:Fursuiters]]<br /> [[Category:1983 births]][[Category:United Kingdom]]</div>

Graafen Blackpaw //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Dance_Dance_Revolution 2006-01-11T17:16:39Z

<p>Graafen Blackpaw: + DDR Furs link</p> <hr /> <div>[[Image:BungeeSkunk FC2003 248.jpg|thumb|right|A Furry playing DDR]]'''DDR''' ('''Dance Dance Revolution''') is a game craze from Japan, and is very popular among furries. You will very often see DDR games at a furry [[convention]].<br /> <br /> The game uses a set of panels which you step on using your feet. The panels are typically in form of a soft mat with pressure-sensitive areas. This kind is shown in the picture to the right. More advanced players invest in hard panels built into a metal frame, similar to those built into DDR arcade machines.<br /> <br /> The goal of the game is to step on the panels to a musical beat, in a pattern presented on the screen. The difficulty is determined by the speed of the song (and thus how fast the steps or 'notes' are presented), and how many total steps there are. <br /> <br /> Due to the physical nature of the game, DDR is also viewed by some as an excellent fitness work-out method.<br /> <br /> == See also ==<br /> <br /> * [[Wikipedia:Dance_Dance_Revolution]]<br /> <br /> == External links ==<br /> <br /> * [http://www.livejournal.com/community/ddr_furs/ DDR furs community] on [[LiveJournal]]<br /> * [http://www.stepmania.com/ StepMania] is a free DDR simulator for Windows, Linux and MacOS.<br /> * [http://www.ddrfreak.com/ DDR Freak] - A popular DDR fansite. <br /> * [http://www.ddrfurs.com/ DDR Furs] - A furry themed DDR fansite.<br /> <br /> [[Category: Video games]]</div>

Graafen Blackpaw //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Graafen_Blackpaw 2006-01-10T17:04:48Z

<p>Graafen Blackpaw: + fursuits &amp; links</p> <hr /> <div>[[Image:Graafen_001sized.jpg|thumb|right|Graafen Blackpaw by [[Kaijima A. Frostfang]]]]<br /> <br /> '''Graafen Blackpaw''' is a werewolf and member of the Blackpaw pack. Born in 1983 he has lived in [[Wikipedia:Yorkshire|Yorkshire]] for his entire life and currently lives in [[Wikipedia:Wakefield|Wakefield]], [[Wikipedia:West Yorkshire|West Yorkshire]], [[Wikipedia:United Kingdom|United Kingdom]], working for a large IT company as a Customer Support Technician. He plans to move to [[Wikipedia:America|America]] at some point in the future but is unsure of when.<br /> <br /> Graafen has also been known as ''Thalyi E. Wolfe'' since 2000.<br /> <br /> == Fursuits ==<br /> <br /> Graafen is an avid [[Fursuit|fursuiter]]. He currently owns two fursuits: ''Thalyi'' and ''Boswell''.<br /> <br /> '''Thalyi''' debuted at [[Further Confusion 2005]]. Created by [[Jax]] from Graafen's online character, Thalyi is a hybrid of Wolf and domestic Cat which gives him a pronounced cleft lip and a long wolf tail.<br /> <br /> '''Boswell''' will debute at [[Further Confusion 2006]]. Created by [[Noble A. Wolf]], Boswell is a black and purple furred 'gothic' skunk.<br /> <br /> Graafen's next fursuit is a werewolf suit, created by [http://www.runningwolfpack.com Running Wolf Productions] and is due to debute on [[Wikipedia:Halloween|Halloween]] 2006.<br /> <br /> {{person-stub}}<br /> <br /> == External links ==<br /> <br /> * [http://www.livejournal.com/users/thalyi Thalyi Wolfe / Graafen Blackpaw's LiveJournal]<br /> * [http://www.werewolf-inside.com/ Werewolf-Inside] - Graafen's personal website.<br /> * [http://www.werewolf-inside.com/gallery/ Werewolf-Inside Gallery]<br /> <br /> [[Category:People]][[Category:Fursuiters]]<br /> [[Category:1983 births]][[Category:United Kingdom]]</div>

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