WikiFur - User contributions [en]

User talk:GreenReaper

2014-05-04T12:34:27Z

Germanshepherd: /* Personal Exclusion */

{{User talk:GreenReaper/Header}}

== Bots ==

Is there anyway to have a bot put ContributorU on user pages, at least the ones with a matching article name? Or, perhaps, one that puts welcome templates on the talk pages of new users? [[File:Scalesona.jpg|40x40px]][[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 19:53, 22 June 2011 (EDT)
:Both of those are technically feasible, but the first would require writing a bot script and assumes they are the same person, while I'm not sure the second is a good idea in general. Welcomes are at best rather impersonal if you have a bot do them, and at worst end up looking stupid when you start welcoming vandals (faking the last admin to edit signing it only makes it worse, as seen at Wikia). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 20:01, 22 June 2011 (EDT)
::All right. Just a thought I had and thought I'd ask about. [[File:Scalesona.jpg|40x40px]][[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 20:13, 22 June 2011 (EDT)

== Questions ==

What do you define the difference between a [[fursuit]] and an [[wikipedia:animal costume|animal costume]]? The subject has come up at [[wikipedia:Talk:Fursuit#Explanation of edits undone|Wikiepdia's fursuit article]], but I'm a rather poor debater, and feel my opinion is pretty closed-minded. My opinion is that a fursuit is only a fursuit if associated with furry, otherwise, it's an animal or mascot costume. However, I know that some feel an animal costume is a fursuit, and the two are synonymous. I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on this. [[File:Scalesona.jpg|40x40px]][[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 12:43, 28 June 2011 (EDT)

:As it happens I was already reading that discussion. I think my response would be much the same as yours - certainly, animal costumes existed, but they were not used for the same reasons, nor (apparently) called the same thing. I might respond there, but I'm a little busy at work now. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 12:49, 28 June 2011 (EDT)

Also, whenever I try to edit a section or add a new section, the wiki tries to replace the entire text with the section. Any thoughts on why this is? It may have something to do with the fact that I am using Internet Explorer, which gives me problems in general on this Wiki. [[File:Scalesona.jpg|40x40px]][[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 12:45, 28 June 2011 (EDT)

:What version of IE is it? Does it happen if you do turn off the advanced editing functions in [[Special:Preferences|preferences]] so that you no longer have the WikiEditor toolbar showing? --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 12:49, 28 June 2011 (EDT)

+ ::It's the newest version. The only difference between the newest version and the older one (which I used on my PC) is that this allows me to edit, as long as I do not scroll down the page, whereas the older would simply lock up my computer if I even went to an edit page. The only way I am able to edit on this laptop I often use is by typing without scrolling too much, and then clicking the "Changes" tab, where it allows me to scroll down to click save. I have just turned off the advanced editing functions, and it still did it. [[File:Scalesona.jpg|40x40px]][[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 13:03, 28 June 2011 (EDT)

== Disregard the email I just sent ==

You took care of it. [[File:Scalesona.jpg|40x40px]][[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 21:44, 2 July 2011 (EDT)

Actually, now might be a good time to ask. I'd like to be able to fight vandalism with greater ease. And while it wouldn't have helped much in this last situation, would it be too much of me to request rollback privelages? [[File:Scalesona.jpg|40x40px]][[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 21:55, 2 July 2011 (EDT)

:Sure. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 22:01, 2 July 2011 (EDT)

Wow, really? I was honestly expecting a "I'm sorry, but..." (Especially considering my recent ousting as an EDiot.) Thanks! [[File:Scalesona.jpg|40x40px]][[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 22:06, 2 July 2011 (EDT)

:Just keep in mind [[Wikipedia:Vandalism#What is not vandalism|what is not vandalism]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 22:08, 2 July 2011 (EDT)

== wikifur.ru ==

[[:ru:ВикиФур:Портал_сообщества#wikifur.ru|WikiFur:Community_Portal#wikifur.ru]] — There is a discussion of domain and copyright protection (trademarks). --[[User:Dokatamaru|'''SHREW''']] 22:00, 8 July 2011 (EDT)
:''Responded''. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 00:19, 9 July 2011 (EDT)

== Altering/deleting species profile ==

After a few years of it being there, I suddenly found a user "Spirou" putting my Monoceros page up for deletion. When I undid his edit and asked why, he deleted it in its entirety and replaced it with a 'redirect'.

Just curious why I was singled out. Or are all http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Category:Fictional_species pages due to to be similarly deleted/redirected if any single WikiFur editor decides that a 'custom species' isn't to his or her liking? If you're nuking all of them, then no worries, I understand. But if it's just this page, I'd really like to know why.

There are multiple monoceri played online, and yes, I've referred others (esp. on SpheresMU*) to that page for reference. Just because no others of them are WikiFur members with their own page yet doesn't mean that the fictional species entry for monoceri should be deleted. Some fairness or explanation would be highly appreciated. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Tugrik|Tugrik]] ([[User talk:Tugrik|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tugrik|contribs]]) .

:''Discussion continued at [[Talk:Monoceros]].'' --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 10:39, 13 July 2011 (EDT)

== AFF postings ==

Mr Reaper, please do not mention my name at Flayrah.com when linking to AFF postings I made. I do not wish for my name to appear anywhere on that site. -- Oliver

:''Replied via email, after figuring out what posts was being talked about. Note: Flayrah has its own [http://www.flayrah.com/contact contact page].'' --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 10:39, 13 July 2011 (EDT)

== Policy Question ==

Do I need permission to write an article about somebody or could I create a stub based off of information on someone simply based off of their FurAffinity information? [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]][[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 12:17, 14 July 2011 (EDT)
:Anyone can start an article on any topic, unless a personal exclusion is in effect. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 12:32, 14 July 2011 (EDT)

== This has nothing to do with me ==

I don't want Meepsheep here any more than you if he acts like this. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]][[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 02:17, 17 July 2011 (EDT)

== Hello ==

There is a discussion that needs your attention at [[Talk:Encyclopædia Dramatica (.ch)]] <[[User:Ô|o]]> 03:58, 26 July 2011 (EDT)
:I skimmed over it a few minutes ago, but it didn't seem like any consensus had been formed as to do anything that would require a [[WikiFur:Curators|curator]]. The editing community as a whole makes the decision here, we just facilitate them, so you'll need to try to work things out with the regular editors of that article rather than appealing to authority. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 04:01, 26 July 2011 (EDT)

== Question ==

Are you going to permaban the IP (98.245.197.226) as well? This one is unique in that it isn't a proxy, but... [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]][[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 23:46, 26 July 2011 (EDT)

== Re: ==

I'll see if that works; thanks for the tip. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]][[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 15:43, 27 July 2011 (EDT)

<del>Hm...I must have a different layout for Yahoo, I'm not seeing any of the buttons I'm supposed to click. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]][[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 15:49, 27 July 2011 (EDT)</del>

I found it, but It leads me to a blank page. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]][[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 16:00, 27 July 2011 (EDT)

However, eBuddy works. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]][[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 16:12, 27 July 2011 (EDT)

Well, I talked to him. Nothing was really accomplished, however. He accused me of attacking him when I was merely asking why he wanted the section removed, which he didn't give a clear answer to. He said he didn't want people googling his name to find out about FA, so I suggested not indexing it, which you've apparently done. However, he then said it was pointless to have the article at all if Google can't find it, to which the only solution is personal exclusion, but he didn't want that either. Then he ''did'' want it. He seemed to have changed his mind again by the ''end'' of the discussion, and said the information was inaccurate. I advised him to correct it, then threatened to blank it immediately after. All the while making passive aggressive insults and threatening to tattle on me to you for "bringing drama" and telling me I'm lucky he didn't have me banned, despite having done nothing wronf. In fact, I was more polite than usual. Also, you apparently "told him about me" but I don't know what you said. All in all, it only managed to shave a few years off my lifespan, because I still don't know what he wants or what happened. So, I was wondering if you could explain to me what I'm supposed to do/have done, or talk to him yourself. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]][[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 17:40, 27 July 2011 (EDT)
:We've had further conversation. This sort of thing happens every now and again in some cases. For the record, all I really told him about you was that you wouldn't respond well to vague threats - which was apparently correct. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 21:21, 27 July 2011 (EDT)

It's not that I thought you said anything bad, he just alluded to it enough that it seemed like something important. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]][[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 21:30, 27 July 2011 (EDT)

== RBW boat party notice ==

Hi GreenReaper,

That's actually a very good point - it seems to be a UKFur issue. If you go here : http://forum.ukfur.org/forum/86-ukfur-events/, and look at the RBW forum 'last updated' thing on the right, it (currently) says 124 topics, but the forum itself is only showing 3 pinned topics.... I've PM'd the admins about it and I'm waiting on the response. In the meantime, you can search the UKFur boards, using "RBW boat party" (minus the quotes) as search criteria, and the article is (currently) the 4th one down. The actual comment from Miyabi (aka sneppid) is post #19 and reads as follows:

''We've sortof dropped the ball on this – we're all quite enjoying the time off; not having massive heart palpitations and not being plunged into huge personal debt is a really nice feeling :3 We're also pretty busy managing LF stuff (well, most of us are, anyway). We'll probably make an official announcement soon but for the time being don't hold your breath for a 2011 boat party – think 2012 instead. We couldn't get the Erasmus at all for the dates we wanted this year, which wouldn't be a huge problem but we'd like to keep the vessel the same. Sorry about the radio silence, but will keep you posted re: 2012.''

So, no "official" announcement generally available, no. If that changes, I'll update the article (assuming you're happy with this as a reference - I can email you a screenshot if you like. :) [[User:Bezel|Bezel]] 05:15, 2 August 2011 (EDT)

:The issue with UKFur should now be fixed - apparently there were some unexpected hiccups when the RBW posts were moved from "conventions" to "events", which have now been corrected. [[User:Bezel|Bezel]] 11:06, 3 August 2011 (EDT)

== UKR flag ==

Can you add the UKR (Ukraine) flag to flagdiv and Flags.png? --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 09:07, 2 August 2011 (EDT)

==Furnal Equinox Edits by Non-Directors/ConCom==

Hey Green, We've all been through this before. dan skunk is reversing edits on the page, after I removed the "see other/danskunk" and he placed it back. With me removing again. As a director of the convention and concom, speaking with others on said places. We do not wish his wikifur linked from our page article. He has mention in the article and that is enough, he has and still continues to cause problems for us, including many threatening e-mails sent to myself and other directors of the convention in the last few months. We would appreciate if he was blocked from editing our page, or our page was locked from edits, except from anyone of the directors. Scani, Myself, Blindsight, Pakesh or Arctic. At the least I'd like dan skunk to be prevented from editing our page. We don't need more issues then we already have with him and his problems.

Shane Nicholson
Director/ConCom - Furnal Equinox

:Perhaps it's poor form for me to interject on user talk pages, but I noticed this change had felt compelled to jump in because you're asking for administrative lockdowns on this article. Generally, I feel it is not appropriate policy for pages to be locked down to a whitelist of official authors who can contribute. I help run a convention, so I have a similar perspective about public perceptions and controlling impressions. We do this through our convention website, and I think that's the appropriate place for controlled messages and positive promotional text. Our event, like yours, has had a turbulent past that got us to where we are today, and while history isn't always positive or engendering of those presently organizing an event, convention, website, etc., it's an important part of the history of the event, but also, often for the regional fandom at large. If items are added which are true facts, written in a NPOV, and are referenced according to standard, even if they cast an event in a contentious or less than positive light, they're part of a total perspective an encyclopedic article deserves. I noticed the tremendous amount of edits/reverts/reedits/talk page notes that have been going on about your event, and I can't find evidence that Dan is "trolling" in any usual sense, though I certainly understand how you might wish him to not publish his edits as associated with your event. However, I think to be true to it's intended form, that's a concession we have to allow to keep Wikifur credible and in a long-term sense, truly useful. I don't believe anyone should be granted a privileged status as to what an article should say because they are elected or appointed to organize the subject matter being discussed. At the very least, I would recommend that if Dan puts up something you find untruthful, the references be questioned and researched by uninvolved parties, and consensus is reached before edits/reverts are made. Until that happens, even if you were exclusive granted access to maintain the article, it would no longer be credible, it would simply be promotional without community consensus and involvement. [I am going to cross-post this to your own Talk page just so you get this.] [[User:BlueOtter|BlueOtter]] 17:03, 17 August 2011 (EDT)

== Just updated some info ==

This is Cloudchaser Sakonige. I just edited "Cloudchaser Shaconage" and "Furry Dictionaries" to correct the spelling of my last name and on "Cloudchaser Shaconage" I updated the External Links. That of course has broken the link to "Cloudchaser Shaconage" from "Furry Dictionaries." How do I edit the main title of "Cloudchaser Shaconage" so "Shaconage" get changed to "Sakonige"? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.247.129.251 ([[User talk:69.247.129.251|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/69.247.129.251|contribs]]) 07:47, 19 August 2011 (UTC) 

== Since both questions have been ignored, I'll post this here. ==

So you deleted the article; fair enough. However, while the other article continues to exist I find that a prime example of double standards. Also that you didn't allow a true discussion to be held about its deletion seems silly. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]][[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 17:17, 26 August 2011 (EDT)
:You mean the one about Blu Aardvark? If there's a consensus there to delete it, I'd be fine with that as well. As far as I'm aware, they haven't really been an issue here recently. As for the discussion, I saw four people in favour of deletion - five if you count me - one oppose (from the page creator), and one noncommittal response. If we were Wikipedia, it might be necessary to keep such pages around to inform those unaware of the situation, but I don't think that's the case here. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 17:19, 26 August 2011 (EDT)
:Double-standards? On WikiFur? It's more likely than you think! —[[User:Xydexx|Xydexx]]
:Meh. I only saw two opposing (excluding you). And ohai Xydexx, good to see you survived the earthquake. Unless you're a ghost. And that'd be weird. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]][[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 17:45, 26 August 2011 (EDT)
::Ohai Equivamp. Rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated. The earthquake really didn't do much damage here, but we definitely felt it. —[[User:Xydexx|Xydexx]]
:Looking back at it, there were three (four counting you). [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]][[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 17:58, 26 August 2011 (EDT)
::Fair enough. I'll take four over one, especially when they're the ones who have to deal it. This isn't a game for us, it's a waste of time that could be spent writing articles. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 18:14, 26 August 2011 (EDT)

I'm not playing "games" if that'd what you're implying. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]][[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 18:18, 26 August 2011 (EDT)

== Thanks ==

Just wanted to say thanks for the welcome :) [[User:Bi-snow|Bi-snow]] 16:37, 4 September 2011 (EDT)

==Moving Equivamp==
Hi GR, 
I'm curious as to why you went through the process of deleting Equivamp's article, moving the revision over, and restoring the old edits. Wouldn't it have been quicker to just cut and paste, or am I overlooking something?--[[User:Higgs Raccoon|Higgs Raccoon]] 23:10, 4 September 2011 (EDT)
:Perhaps, but it would have left the edits made by Equivamp separate. I felt it was better to keep them all together. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 23:11, 4 September 2011 (EDT)

==TGcomix==
Can you please keep an eye on the tiny community of pedophiles here, especially with [http://en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Tyciol&diff=343523&oldid=341592 their stated intentions to harass 15-year-old girls] on TrikiWiki.org, which he uses to write about his personal enemies (eg. Brainwurms, Zaiger420, Thayo). I doubt that TGcomix wishes to be a constructive contributor here; his main goal seems to be recruitment. I doubt Tyciol will present any problems; it's TGcomix you really need to worry about. If you won't ban TGcomix in order to save your wiki from any problems he may present in the future, you should at least tell him that comments [http://en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Tyciol&diff=343523&oldid=341592 such as this] aren't welcomed. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 17:25, 11 September 2011 (EDT)
:I should also point out [http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/User_talk:Equivamp#Equivamp they are furry-based comments], in case that's relevant. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]][[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 18:49, 11 September 2011 (EDT)
::With the speed that GR reverted meep's inappropriate inquiry on my talk, it makes me think it's on a watch list or somethin'. Anywho, I dispute MDS' allegation of being a member of such a community. I'm polite enough to engage in discourse with anyone including this TG fellow but do not want any part of his plans to harass Eq on this trikiwiki thing. I took a look at it and it is in poor taste. [[User talk:Tyciol|Ty]] 04:24, 29 October 2011 (EDT)
:::Edits to all WikiFur sites are posted to [irc://irc.freenode.net/wikifur-edits #wikifur-edits] on [[WikiFur:IRC|IRC]], and I often review them. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 04:27, 29 October 2011 (EDT)

== Article wikifur.com/Fritter ==

GreenReaper,

As of Monday, the 12th of September 2011, my charges have been unconditionally withdrawn by the Crown and Court of Ontario, Canada. On that note, I would like to request my personal information be removed from my article page without threat of moderators such as AshleyAshes re-adding such information. In addition, I would like the note of any mention of the charge be removed, as it now poses as a threat to my future in both personal and professional stances. If you require any written proof, I am in the process of gathering the documentation from the courts and my lawyer notating that the matter has been resolved outright.

In addition, I would like to file a complaint against your moderator AshleyAshes, for personally bringing it upon himself to see that my reputation be tarnished, even after the criminal charge has been dropped. He played the entire matter as though I was guilty from the instant I was picked up, and appears to believe it is still the case though my charge has been dropped. I would like to politely speak with you in private on this matter further, so that these issues may be resolved as cleanly and respectfully as possible. It has been a difficult past 6 months, and I would like to do my best to keep those past 6 months under wraps for the future.

[[User:Fritter|Fritter]] 20:57, 14 September 2011 (EDT)

:Hi Fritter. I am glad to hear that you have apparently resolved this matter. As the information we have is backed by a published news article, some form of reference or document proving what you have said would be appreciated. If it can be proven, I am personally open to removal of the topic from the article about you; however, as we act on consensus and have not faced this exact situation before, I'll sound out the feelings of other editors on the [[Talk:Fritter|discussion page]].

:You might consider contacting the newspaper which originally covered this story to ask them to print an update. I also would be glad to update the [http://www.flayrah.com/3490/furry-fritter-charged-possession-child-pornography Flayrah article on this topic], and/or to post a new story there of equal prominence mentioning the withdrawal of the charges.

:[[User:AshleyAshes|AshleyAshes]] is not a [[WikiFur:Colleagues|WikiFur colleague/curator]] and does not represent the site in any capacity beyond that of a contributor. He also has no more or less power than you have - well, OK, ''technically'' there are a couple of things he can do because your account is new as of yesterday, but he has not been granted any special powers. We encourage all editors to ensure that articles are accurate and comprehensive, although in this case I would have preferred to see an attempt to confirm the information provided rather than immediately remove it.

:In the future, I suggest using the "summary box" above the save page button to provide an explanation of the motivation for your edits to other editors. This will appear on the [http://en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=Fritter&action=history history page] as a brief explanation of the edit. Without it, it can be tricky to deal with situations like user A adding information X to an article, user B removing it for a reason in line with wiki guidelines (e.g. a lack of a citation), and user A then adding it in again without giving any response to B's reasoning.

:You are welcome to [[WikiFur:IRC|talk to me in the #wikifur chat room]], or to [[Special:EmailUser/GreenReaper|email me]], but please bear in mind that I am relocating to Texas this weekend and may be away packing up boxes. As mentioned above, policy and article content decisions on WikiFur are made through the [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Consensus|consensus of editors]], not handed out from above as in most websites, but I would be glad to advise you on how our system works and suggest how best to achieve your goals. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 21:53, 14 September 2011 (EDT)

== Removing pages created by me a long time ago ==

Hello, I was wondering whether I can have the pages for "Sparks (fan)" and "Syona Starlight" removed from this wiki. I am Syona, Sparks is my significant other. I am trying to scrub the net clean of what I can of any of our presence. Thank you. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Darkeskunk|Darkeskunk]] ([[User talk:Darkeskunk|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Darkeskunk|contribs]]) .

:''Following up via FA note and AIM''. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 23:50, 2 October 2011 (EDT)

== Question about terms. ==

Hello, I'm Targal and EvilDragon. you should know me already, as I was sometime in IRC.

:Hi there! Sorry for the slow reply, I've been busy recently in [[real life]] . . .

1.
Rante has made classification about furry. as I saw it, but his term in the word explaining classification looks something weird.
so I question you looks whether it something uncomfortable or not.

I guess You should know these codes can be seen well on a book of libraries.

http://hellodragon.tistory.com/41

I think It'll be better if they're revised as latin-ous.

:I do not particularly like codes as they are inflexible. For example, it says there that my character has a human body . . . but it is half the height of a human, and in fact the stance is more forward-leaning. It also appears to be redundant to define "divisions" if you have defined "detailed divisions" as it can be calculated from that. Overall, I would ask what is the use of such classification? On WikiFur, we use words, and it works well enough, I think.

2.
is the word "furry" literary style?

this meaning is that the word "Kemono" in Japanese can ba hardly written on novels, because it's something inproper. but the word "Jyujin" having a similar meaning to Kemono is used often than "Kemono" on novels.
likewise the word "suin" in Korean meaning furry and jyujin is also used on a novels, but it's so informal term only used on internet products that it can be written hardly on formal words. (but 'suin' is available half on novels)
for example, you have to write 'yiffy' as 'adult furry things' on a formal paper, because 'yiffy' is a slang.

so, I wonder whether the word 'furry' can be used like that or not.

:"Furry" is an informal term; you will not find it in any official dictionaries . . . yet. It is however used by many conventions and artists to describe themselves. If you want a more formal term for the characters which we focus on, I would suggest "[cartoon] anthropomorphic animal". --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 00:00, 3 October 2011 (EDT)

== Deletion of my article and all other mentions/page/etc ==

Hi! I would like to remove any real mention of me, the article on me, etc. I am now concerned about my privacy and the amount of information available about me on the internet, and would like to get rid of it as much as possible. You can contact me via the email listed in my preferences (I assume this is viewable by you?)

Thank you in advance :)

--[[User:Dimruthien|Dimruthien]] 06:33, 11 October 2011 (EDT)
:Replied via email outlining [[WikiFur:Personal exclusion|personal exclusion]] process (and its limits). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 02:42, 15 October 2011 (EDT)

==People to Add==
Hello GR, 
I wonder if you could suggest a direction for the [[:Category:People/People_to_add|People to Add]] list? In particular, what should be done with names that defy a reasonable amount of research? Take "Susan Gui" or "John T Baptist", for example. Neither have any mention within WikiFur, and Google searches combined with obvious words like "furry", "furries", "fursona", "anthropomorphic", etc, produce no relevant hits. Neither do Google Groups searches or trying to guess a Fur Affinity account name.

Should such names be left, or removed?--[[User:Higgs Raccoon|Higgs Raccoon]] 17:25, 27 October 2011 (EDT)

:I'd suggest removing them, on the basis that placement on the list is only useful if other people know who you're talking about. If the original adder really wants to make that article, they can always do that. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 17:28, 27 October 2011 (EDT)

== Interesting archive splitting ==

I noticed your separate Admin/Policy + Technical + General categories for your archives. That is neat but it makes me wonder, does it add more work to archiving? Like do you look at each topic one by one and decide where you want to put it? So eventually, the order they are displayed in when split looks different from how they initially appeared in sequence when first posted? I thought about the possibility of adding month-parent single = cats but that is only for standard methods and would clearly overcomplicate in addition to this trinity division. [[User talk:Tyciol|Ty]] 04:29, 29 October 2011 (EDT)
:Yes. It is more work; I do it because I am in a unique situation as many policy decisions and technical questions have been answered on my talk page, and it may be necessary for people to look through the archives to determine the historical basis for a decision (or just to get a general feel for the site's history). This makes it easier for them, as there's less to read through. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 04:37, 29 October 2011 (EDT)

== I wish to remove my character from Wikifur ==

I would like to remove my character's profile from wikifur. I cannot delete it, can you do that for me? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Jenesri|Jenesri]] ([[User talk:Jenesri|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jenesri|contribs]]) .

:I'm presuming you want us not to cover you, as well as your character? What we typically offer is [[WikiFur:personal exclusion|personal exclusion]], since otherwise anyone could recreate an article if it was deleted. I have noted your request on the [[Talk:Jenesri|relevant discussion page]], and if there is no objection (which is likely), it will be excluded. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 21:55, 26 December 2011 (EST)

== Problems with Internet Explorer ==

It would appear IE still has problems editing the site (though it can view it just fine). Editing is possible if I make the changes, then click the "Changes" tab at the top before clicking Save. Not doing this results in me having to resart the internet. This is a brand-new computer; I am using the most updated version of IE. Yes, I know, that's what I get for using it in the first place, but I'm too busy to download Chrome. Is there any reason for this, or do you not know? [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]][[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 19:27, 9 January 2012 (EST)
:Try unchecking the beta and labs features on the "editing" tab of your [[Special:Preferences|preferences]]? --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 17:31, 11 January 2012 (EST)

::test [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]][[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 16:34, 16 January 2012 (EST)

:::Okay, it does appear to have worked. Thank you for your help. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]][[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 16:35, 16 January 2012 (EST)

== A strange link ==

Hi, I was talking with someone and they mentioned that there was a link on Timothy Albee's page here on Wikifur that pointed to my page on FurAffinity, (furaffinity.net/user/dreamsong).

While Tim and I were close for years, we were never _that_ close.

I was wondering if someone could change that link? (I think his FurAffinity page is still there under TimothyAlbee.)

Thanks!
Dreamsong

:Sure; the updated page is at [[Timothy Albee]]. Note that you can edit most pages on WikiFur, even without an account. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 18:18, 22 January 2012 (EST)

== Merge Kijani/Kijani Lion ==

Hi there, Kijani! I notice you already appear to have an account under User:Kijani Lion, initially created over at Wikia. Would you like me to merge the two?

You would need to login once as Kijani Lion using your old password, so that it correctly records contributions. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 03:50, 8 February 2012 (EST)

:Hi there,

:Yes if you could please merge the two userpages that would be great! It's been so long since I've edited by Wiki I completely forgot I had made that account. Thanks a lot! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Kijani|Kijani]] ([[User talk:Kijani|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kijani|contribs]]) .

::Great! Just [[Special:UserLogin|go here]] and enter the old username and password so it's imported (we moved from Wikia, so despite having a user page it isn't a full user, but logging in will fix it), then I'll get it merged. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 04:03, 8 February 2012 (EST)

::All merged. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 04:18, 8 February 2012 (EST)

== Personal exclusion/deletion ==
Hi, This is Rhylith, contacted you on FA.
Can I have the personal exclusion applied to my/this account? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Rhylith|Rhylith]] ([[User talk:Rhylith|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Rhylith|contribs]]) .
:I have noted your request on the [[Talk:Rhylith|article discussion page]] - if there is no objection, it will be acted on after 24 hours. I can also delete your [[User:Rhylith|user page]] if you would like. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 18:48, 11 March 2012 (EDT)

== User talk pages ==

I thought that only applied to the user page, while leaving the talk page up for public posts and Curators notices. At least that is how I have seen been done since day one - [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 22:35, 13 March 2012 (EDT)
:If it gets to the point of blocking someone, a notice may be appropriate until they are unblocked. If you just need to say something to them, they are entitled to remove your speech once it's heard. It's not meant to be a scarlet letter. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 22:42, 13 March 2012 (EDT)
:There's further thought on that [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Don't restore removed comments|at Wikipedia]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 22:49, 13 March 2012 (EDT)

== Re: WikiFur Conservator ==

Thank you for letting me know, as well as fixing the Furcode template on my userpage. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]][[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 08:46, 2 April 2012 (EDT)

==Mundane==
I agree with removing the edits on Babyfur and the other article, but why remove my edits on the article of "Mundane"?
Dylan [[User talk:Dylan|(talk)]] 07:57,22 April 2012 (EDT)

:The [[User:mwalimu|user concerned]] provided their reasoning in the [http://en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=Mundane&action=history edit history]. This explanation is added in the summary box, which should be used to explain your reasoning/provide context for edits to other editors. (To sign your name and add a timestamp in discussions, just type <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. In addition, please use the "show preview" button rather than saving changes repeatedly. See the [[help]] for more advice.) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 13:16, 22 April 2012 (EDT)

== More flag icons needed please ==

Hi,

In addition to Mwalimu's request above for the Ukraine flag to be added, could you also please add the following:

BEL (Belgium), EST (Estonia), FIN (Finland), HRV (Croatia), HUN (Hungary), IRL (Ireland), ISR (Israel), LTU (Lithuania), NLD (Netherlands)

as these are in an active article ([[ConFuzzled 2012]]) and are showing incorrectly. If you don't have the time or inclination, by all means tell me how to do it and I'll have a stab at uploading a file for you. Regards [[User:Bezel|Bezel]] 02:46, 22 May 2012 (EDT)

:Done. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 18:37, 26 May 2012 (EDT)

::Sorry, but we need more ! :) In relation to the [[ConFuzzled 2013]] article, we seem to be missing suitable flag icons for Iceland, the Isle of Man, and the United Arab Emirates. :) [[User:Bezel|Bezel]] 15:30, 20 May 2013 (EDT)

:::Thanks for letting me know - I'll drop myself a note to look at this when I get home. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 15:32, 20 May 2013 (EDT)

== Username blacklist thing ==

Can we forbid Weweesky as part of a username? It'd cut out a few of the having to immediately block as expected spammer accounts I'd like to think. I don't know if WikiFur has installed: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TitleBlacklist#Using_TitleBlacklist_to_control_user_account_creation -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 02:03, 4 June 2012 (EDT)
:We do have it (our extensions are listed at [[Special:Version]]), but it was disabled. I've enabled it now, so [[MediaWiki:Titleblacklist]] should work. I suggest not overusing it as spammers tend to rotate nicknames frequently; it's a little more useful for people trying to use certain elements in names, although it can just encourage creativity there as well. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 03:35, 4 June 2012 (EDT)

== Personal Exclusion ==

I was wondering if I could have my wiki-thing, Sparky15756, blanked? I'm intending to edit it at a later date but for now I'd rather have it blanked as it's just an egotistical page that I made a few years ago and would rather it not see the light of day (anymore). But I'd like to keep my account on here for when I finally get around re-editing my wiki-article.

~15756
:Since the reason seems to be more that you didn't like the current article rather than the idea of ''any'' article, I had a go at editing it. Please [[Sparky15756|take a look]] and tell me if you still wish to be excluded. (Also, you can sign your name in discussions with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>.) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 03:34, 22 June 2012 (EDT)

I still wish for the article to be excluded, but I do thank you for trying to make it look better.
~Sparky15756
:As you wish; I have placed the customary 24 hour notice on the talk page, and if there is no objection (likely) I will perform the exclusion. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 03:49, 9 July 2012 (EDT)

==Re-inclusion==

Hey again, I was wondering if it's possible to unblank and re-include my article? I've prepared a pre-made article for if/when my article can be edited.

~Sparky15756

:Sure. I've removed the exclusion and restored the last version; it is now open for editing. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 20:15, 29 March 2013 (EDT)

==Edit and Lock==
I'd like to request an edit and lock of my article on the grounds that I'm tired of two (unnamed) curators targeting my article with edits upon edits, one even threatening to block me from editing my page because I spoke out against them and even received word that I'm not allowed to talk about them on Twitter.
~Sparky15756

== Removal of page histories ==

Hi there, I've been doing a little editing and article pruning recently, and was wondering if you could delete the histories for my userpage, and article. 
I'm happy to stay on the site, but I'd rather some of the old and irrelevant information on the two pages that I've edited was removed. 
Thanks in advance!

[[User:UaineSionnach|UaineSionnach]] 18:46, 21 June 2012 (EDT)
:I have hidden the revisions which appear to contain personal information, such as your detailed location and date of birth. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 21:54, 21 June 2012 (EDT)
::That's wonderful, thank you! [[User:UaineSionnach|UaineSionnach]] 21:58, 21 June 2012 (EDT)

== Account rename (Mcgroarty) ==

Hey, Green. Would you be willing to rename [[User:Mcgroarty|Mcgroarty]] to Ink or McGroarty? I hadn't realized camelcase names might be an option at signup - they usually aren't with MediaWiki. And heck, I'd figured Ink would already be taken. Ink would be my first preference. --[[User:Mcgroarty|Mcgroarty]] 12:18, 6 July 2012 (EDT)

:I've taken the liberty of renaming the Mcgroarty account to "Ink".--[[User:Higgs Raccoon|Higgs Raccoon]] 12:31, 6 July 2012 (EDT)

== Help with Babysitting Cream? ==

Thanks for the welcome. I could use some help with the Babysitting Cream page, which is marked as needing to be wikified to match the Furry Book of Style. Whoever put that macro there, I'm not sure what they want fixed. (Aside perhaps from more citations, but the original author has explained the shortage of cites and I'm not sure I can improve on it much.) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:APDamien|APDamien]] ([[User talk:APDamien|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/APDamien|contribs]]) .

:Hmm. There is [[Talk:Babysitting Cream|some discussion]] of that work already. My view is that the topic is suitable, but it's not a good encyclopedia article. It reads more like a game guide. The choice of the section headers "How to play" and "Strategy" and the constant use of "you" are particularly telling. Description of the gameplay is appropriate, but less in the form of "here's what ''you should do''", and more "here's what happens if ''the player does'' X". The article also contains uncited personal opinions about how the game should be improved, stated as fact. If someone has given such an opinion elsewhere, it could be included but should be cited and attributed to them. (You can sign your conversations on talk pages with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>.) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 19:16, 15 July 2012 (EDT)

== Can I have my article removed ==

http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/SableQueanVilaya I wish to have this article about me removed. Please do so. Thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:SableQueanVilaya|SableQueanVilaya]] ([[User talk:SableQueanVilaya|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/SableQueanVilaya|contribs]]) .

== My article removal ==

Can I go ahead and blank it then put the exclusion tag on it? I really want this article removed. Please remove it or something. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:SableQueanVilaya|SableQueanVilaya]] ([[User talk:SableQueanVilaya|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/SableQueanVilaya|contribs]]) .

:''Was ultimately excluded.'' --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 19:46, 17 August 2012 (EDT)

== Page Reversion. (Unexclusion) ==

*After much consideration I would like the page back on track.
*I would however like to get solitary priveleges to change the page info.
*This is because other people have constantly changed it in the past, which let to its demise (and my temporary ban), updating it with incorrect info and details I myself corrected over time and time again.
*It seriously gets on your nerves after a while. I know Wikifur is a place where 'everyone' can contribute and I like\endorse that, but after seeing the disasters that can occur: page protection surely is a luxury.
*Sure, I would've liked it otherwise, but it seems some people (trolls in particular) can't handle that kind of freedom.

--[[User:BillyTheCat128|BillyTheCat128]]([[User talk:B|talk]])

:''[[User talk:Higgs Raccoon#Changing my page.|Correctly handled by Higgs Raccoon]] - we no longer offer this option, but advise watching pages with email notification.'' --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 19:46, 17 August 2012 (EDT)

== Unexclusion request ==

Kraaa!

For reasons similar to those of BillyTheCat128 above, I had requested an exclusion, most likely because I had self-edited my page (and I also wanted the history to be purged). However, I now would be interested in seeing how WikiFur editors see me. I would like the [[Diti]] page to be recreated, so I would be happy if you “unblocked” the page (or make it a “red link”)! Thank you! [[User:Diti|Diti]] [[User talk:Diti|the penguin]] — 04:40, 18 August 2012 (EDT)

:The article has been unexcluded and is now publicly editable. Let us know if you have any further concerns. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 10:08, 18 August 2012 (EDT)

== Babysitting Cream thumbnails ==

It appears that you provided specific thumbnails for the article on the Babysitting Cream game. However, one of the thumbnails was never uploaded (or had the wrong filename), resulting in an ugly bar for the missing image, and the other image was from an earlier version of the game.

I have replaced these using the standard "thumb" feature of the Wiki image reference, allowing the software to generate the thumb by the default method. If you want to rebuild the thumbs, this is a reminder that they are there. [[User:APDamien|APDamien]] 14:13, 3 September 2012 (EDT)

Oh, and thank you for replacing my incorrect version of the start page with a correct one. But... the way you did it doesn't get a full-size image when you click on it, only the thumbnail (with a link to the full image if you look for it). I don't understand how this thumb= stuff works well enough to fix it, so I'll just leave it up to you instead of reverting -- I hate reverts and will only do them for obvious vandalism or where the editor clearly didn't understand the purpose of the article/section. [[User:APDamien|APDamien]] 15:03, 3 September 2012 (EDT)

:Thank you for bringing this to my attention. The thumbnail was deleted because the software listed it as unused and another editor thought it was superfluous. I have noted its use on the file page. The thumbnails are used because indexed PNG thumbs are much more efficient than the full-colour ones made by default. I did a bit more digging and found that I can force a manual link as well as a thumb, so that should work nicely now.

:As for the earlier version image, I replaced it with what I consider to be the "title" screen, which is equivalent to an earlier version of the image. The warning screen might be included too, as a separate image but it seems a little superfluous - maybe just a mention in the text, if anything? (If you can't see anything useful in a thumbnail, it's probably not a good image to use.) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 15:11, 3 September 2012 (EDT)

== Further Confusion Charity totals ==

Hi. Have you had any luck in extracting the charity totals from FC for the past few years to be able to update the [[Timeline of charity donations]] article ? [[User:Bezel|Bezel]] 03:43, 4 September 2012 (EDT)
:Nope! I can try again, though . . . --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 03:59, 4 September 2012 (EDT)
:There were totals for both years in the budgets included with their 990 filing for 2011-2012 - $10,000 in 2011, $7000 in 2012. I updated the charity timeline. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 22:12, 28 December 2012 (EST)
::Thanks for the update :-) [[User:Bezel|Bezel]] 16:57, 30 December 2012 (EST)

== Policy on self-editing? Just asking for clarification... ==

Hey there. I'm Kashi Commodore, one of the newer associate developers hired to work on Furcadia. A long-time Furc player and Beekin, I've now joined the team at DEP.

I have my own article, which was self-edited to an extent to correct inaccuracies. And I suppose it might be prudent to update it given my new position. That thought has highlighted an idea..

I see a few factual inaccuracies in Furcadia related articles which I'd be happy to correct. Of course, that would be 'self-editing' in a sense and wanted to clarify what the policy is on that. I'm not a marketer or salesperson, and am happy to attempt to cite official sources where possible. But I wouldn't want to invalidate the encyclopaedic purity of the site - merely correct a few errors. I could see how I would not be regarded as impartial. I'm not sure if I can say I would be an 'official' source myself, but I'm certainly as official as you are likely to get, which has it's own pros and cons of course. I could provide examples of what 'inaccuracies' I refer to if that helps.

I'd love to hear your thoughts. Thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Kashicommodore|Kashicommodore]] ([[User talk:Kashicommodore|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kashicommodore|contribs]]) .

:Hi Kashi! At WikiFur we recognize that sometimes the best sources of information are those closest to the action. As such, we welcome such edits as long as they comply with the general policy on neutrality. There should be little problem with correcting questions of fact; if it starts getting into what you see as misconceptions of DEP policy or actions, it might be best to mention and reference examples of user views as well as the company's own position. In any case, we'd certainly prefer that you continue to do so under your own name, and to explain your reasons for changes in the summary box (or on the attached discussion page if necessary). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 15:02, 15 September 2012 (EDT)

== Editing protection ==

The edits in question are indeed large, other curators have used this method to prevent editing while making theirs, the pages are only 80% finished, I am not receiving comment on the future status of disambiguation pages, and i'm not using this template as my sole property toy, but to prevent the hanging data from being disturbed until the final edit.

This was done with [[Kitsune]] and [[Vixen]], and after being finished and unprotected, users started to modify the entries as normal. The changes are time consuming, long, tedious and a pain to enter one by one. Common courtesy during a curators edit would be appreciated - [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 21:08, 15 October 2012 (EDT)
:This is not "I will be the only one editing this entry forever!" territory. I'm talking large input of material at one, most of the entries from diverse and obscure references (specially foreign). - [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 21:14, 15 October 2012 (EDT)

::I [http://en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&limit=500&type=protect can't see evidence of use of this method] to protect personal editing projects. It is primarily used when there is a dispute over articles. If you have a large edit which you cannot complete within a matter of hours, it would be best to prepare it in your user space. I will expand on this in the ongoing discussion. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 21:16, 15 October 2012 (EDT)

:::Okay, then I will take Sine's suggestion, which is the most logical right know. I will remove (temporarily) the links that are currently not finished (not relinked, but just the ones with name and no description), move them to four folders for the four species/disambiguations on my Wikifur folder, and edit them offline, to be included back at a later time, so I can remove the edit tag, and open them to user traffic as of right now - [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 21:25, 15 October 2012 (EDT)

::::That sounds like a good way to start. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 21:27, 15 October 2012 (EDT)

== spam guy ==

i'm adding some new articles to the italian wiki,but another guy is putting spam around the pages( even the main one),so please block him,my account is "Escofal"(i can't log in to the eng wiki,only to the italian version of the site).That bad guy has an ip like "173.--"

:''Spammer blocked.'' --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 01:42, 7 November 2012 (EST)

However,a friend of mine posted another question in the eng forum but none has answered yet.

== Editing the Homepage ==

Hello Greenreaper! I'm Valery91Thunder from the italian Wikifur. I'm working with a friend of mine (Escofal, he wrote to you before) to replenish and update the Italian part of the Wiki. We're currently working on adding new pages, but we'd also like to change the layout of our homepage, which is currently looking like this: http://it.wikifur.com/wiki/Pagina_principale . We'd like to create something more resembling to this: http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/WikiFur_Furry_Central . Do you have any useful tips and tricks, or pheraps a link to a tutorial that shows us the best way to modify these pages? We're new, so we're still trying to learn the majority of the code. Thanks anticipate for your interest, we'll be waiting for your kind answer. :) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:79.3.154.44|79.3.154.44]] ([[User talk:79.3.154.44|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/79.3.154.44|contribs]]) .

:Hi Valery! I'm glad you want to develop the front page. Unfortunately there is no manual for them in particular - you have to click "edit" and see what is done - but [[mediawikiwiki:Help:Contents|MediaWiki has a manual]] - in fact there are [[Wikipedia:Help:Wikipedia: The Missing Manual/Introduction|several]].

:On the English WikiFur, we have locked the front page, and are using a feature called [[mediawikiwiki:Help:Templates|template inclusion]] so that the content of the front page is on other pages. Basically, anything like <nowiki>{{WikiFur Central/Something}} is actually at [[Template:WikiFur Central/Something]]</nowiki>. This makes it harder for people to edit it, which is both good and bad . . . we also have the front page sections rotate each week (with edit links to the appropriate week).

:Parts of the front page are on [[Template:WikiFur Central/Header]], [[en:Template:WikiFur Central/Featured]], [[Template:WikiFur Central/Comic of the Week]], [[Template:Upcoming events]], [[Template:WikiFur Central/Flayrah]], [[Template:Did you know]], [[Template:WikiFur Central/FeaturedPicture]], [[Template:Furpile]], [[Template:WikiFur Central/Footer]] and [[Template:WikiFur Central/MetaLinks]]. Most are protected to avoid vandalism (although to varying levels), because English gets a lot of it. There are also versions for screens which are [[WikiFur Furry Central/800|800px]], [[WikiFur Furry Central/650|650px]] and [[WikiFur Furry Central/480|480px]] wide, which have their own templates or re-order them.

:This is probably more complex than we need, and almost certainly more than ''you'' need. Given the size of the community, I would suggest that you consider it a "front page to furry fandom". What would someone new to the fandom want to learn? What Italian-languages resources, in particular, are useful? You can link to major topics, to categories - whatever you have available now. (One example along these lines is [[Wikipedia:Portal:Furry|Portal:Furry on Wikipedia]].)

:I suggest that you don't commit yourself to making sections that you will have to update all the time, especially if only a few people can edit it. If you want a featured section, that's fine - but make it one that you can leave for a few weeks if necessary. There is less chance of deliberate vandalism here. Don't be afraid to link to content elsewhere - if there are popular Italian podcasts/shows/news with RSS feeds, you can display links to them, [[Template:WikiFur Central/Flayrah|like we do for Flayrah]].

:I would also suggest looking at our [[WikiFur:Community Central|Community Central]] page ([{{fullurl:WikiFur:Community Central|action=edit}} source]), and mixing some of this type of material on your front page - as you do with the "new pages" section - because it encourages contribution to these articles, and it is automatically generated. Some of the sections there use [[mediawikiwiki:Extension:DynamicPageList (third-party)|DynamicPageList]]. This is a powerful but complex tool. Try it out, but don't expect it to do exactly what you want straight away! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 20:56, 11 November 2012 (EST)

::Hey there! Thanks for the quick reply, this is a lot of info indeed! I'll start looking at the pages you've linked soon, and your suggestion of doing a simpler page instead of a more "real-life updated" one was exactly in my thoughts. We had in mind to add some links to the major furry forums in there in case some new furs wanted a place to meet people and talk. :) Thank you again!

== Protecting the Homepage ==

Hi GreenReaper, it's Valery91Thunder again from the Italian WikiFur, sorry to bother you ^^"
We've successfully managed to edit the homepage, adding a new layout to it, more informations, and so on. We plan on creating the Community Portal as well, soon.
We had another hacker/bot attack, though, that re-edited the homepage. I've managed to restore our version, but still, it's utterly unpleasant seeing our page being changed like that. :( So we finally decided we should add protection to the homepage, but I think, as I'm only a normal user, that I don't have the permissions to do that.
Is there a way, or someone, that we can contact to do it for us?
Thank you again for your time and kindness. :)
:I have protected the main page against edits by anonymous or recently-registered users, and I have granted yourself and Escofal access as colleagues/sysops, since you are the active users at this time. Please use your new powers with restraint. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 16:46, 22 November 2012 (EST)

== Edits or Vandalism? ==

I am not sure if some of my edits could be seen as vandalism or not. Please reassure me that they are not.
[[User:M3talgearrock-solid|M3talgearrock-solid]] 10:56, 9 December 2012 (EST)
:I don't think you have anything to worry about at present. If people have a problem with your edits, I'm sure they will contact you about it. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 22:44, 15 December 2012 (EST)

== Removal of personal Information ==

Good morning,

I just wanted to request some information change on the wiki - firstly, about my birthdate, and my rl location, and my RL sex.
http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Xaxoqual

In particular I would like the birthdate removed, and the city, and the gendered pronoun. If you need verification it is me then I can post from FA or something. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Xaxoqual|Xaxoqual]] ([[User talk:Xaxoqual|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Xaxoqual|contribs]]) .

:Sure, I think we can do that in accordance with our [[WikiFur:Personal exclusion|Personal information policy]]. I've removed these RL details from the article history, and will follow up with you on FA to confirm identity. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 13:19, 12 January 2013 (EST)

== Help ==

Banned [http://ru.wikifur.com/wiki/%D0%A3%D1%87%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:%D0%92%D1%8B%D0%92%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%A1%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%91%D1%82%D0%B5 him]!! Quickly. Cancel [http://ru.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=%D0%A1%D0%BB%D1%83%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F:Contributions&limit=500&target=%D0%92%D1%8B%D0%92%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%A1%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%91%D1%82%D0%B5 changes] to the articles. I have a error (Error 503 Service Unavailable). High ping. [[User:Dokatamaru|'''SHREW''']] 13:16, 15 January 2013 (EST)
:Done. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 16:17, 15 January 2013 (EST)
::Excellent. [[User:Dokatamaru|'''SHREW''']] 16:49, 15 January 2013 (EST)

== File:GreenReaper.png ==

Are you using this file in some non-obvious way, or is it alright to delete from WikiFur as Unused? -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 17:13, 21 January 2013 (EST)
:Umm . . . I might be! I honestly don't remember. If anything it's a link on another site. Could probably be deleted. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 22:22, 21 January 2013 (EST)

== Hello, need help deleting a page? ==

Hi there, I made myself a page a while back under my username/character name 'Conjure'. I am no longer part of the fandom and have also changed my real name used in the article here. I would not like this info to be posted publicly anymore as it is irrelevant now. Is there any way you could help me delete it? Im not sure if you need proof or anything it is me, but i do use my real email on here and I have a facebook if need be.

Thanks!
{{unsigned|ConjureVerified}}

:An article does not have to be removed for personal information (such as legal name) to be removed. Even if you are no longer a member of the fandom, the article could stay (and be edited to reflect that) for historical purposes. If these compromises are acceptable to you then the article could stay. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]][[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 08:36, 24 January 2013 (EST)

== Mobile Frontend extension ==

Any chance of getting [[mw:Extension:MobileFrontend]] installed? It would make WikiFur more accessible in today's world of smartphones. Wikipedia themselves use this extension, it also provides some nice API methods for getting a short text extract from an article. --[[User:TerrorBite|TerrorBite]] 12:35, 6 February 2013 (EST)
:I've put the appropriate version of the code onto the server but I need a little time away from work to check it over before I can enable it. I also don't really have a suitable device to test it on - just a TracFone. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 15:08, 6 February 2013 (EST)

== Re: Box-centring ==

If you're seeing problem with messagebox alignment, it's probably because of our recent proxying changes. I'd bet your WikiFur logo is incorrectly aligned, too! I would hope that they sort themselves out over time. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 15:06, 6 February 2013 (EST)
:Ah, I wondered if it had something to do with that! No biggie. Thanks for the tip. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] - [[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 15:16, 6 February 2013 (EST)

== Ru-wikifur ==

Why is russian subproject unavailable now? -- ''Anonymous''.

:Are you sure? [http://ru.wikifur.com It is working fine for me]. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] - [[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] 13:58, 13 February 2013 (EST)

:Some users have trouble accessing some editions of WikiFur through our new service provider, CloudFlare. We are working to solve the problem with them, which we believe is on their side. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 14:16, 13 February 2013 (EST)

== Image issues ==

Hi.

I don't know if it's just me, but I'm having a couple of issues with images not displaying properly - such as the first image in the [[Furball Run]] article, and the 4th poster in the [[LondonFurs]] article (2012 summer party). Other images, even other ones in the same articles, are displaying ok so I'm not quite sure what's going on... [[User:Bezel|Bezel]] 15:59, 13 February 2013 (EST)

:Yes; these issues appear to affect up to 2/13 of images on WikiFur (and Flayrah/the Yerf Archive). They impact users differently depending on location - for example, I can see all the images you mention, but I am not able to see various other images on [[WikiFur:Gallery (characters)]]. I have a ticket on file with CloudFlare. For now, please proceed as if the images were in place, as they should show up later once the issue is resolved. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 16:13, 13 February 2013 (EST)

== Mellow.yote rename request ==
<pre>{{safesubst:Renameuser
|CURRENT=Mellow.yote
|NEW=Connor.J.Coyote
|REASON=Fursona Name Change
}}</pre> —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Mellow.yote|Mellow.yote]] ([[User talk:Mellow.yote|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Mellow.yote|contribs]]) .
:Sure. Though we don't have that template. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 04:43, 11 March 2013 (EDT)

==Requesting a page lock==
Hi!

I was wondering if my old WikiFur page (http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Elegance_Liberty) could be blocked out/deleted and/or protected, please? Thanks! --[[User:Elegance_Liberty|Elegance Liberty]] 20:23, 23 April 2013 (CST)

:I've noted your request on the attached discussion page, and if there is no objection I will perform an [[WikiFur:Personal exclusion|exclusion]] in 24 hours. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 22:14, 23 April 2013 (EDT)

==Timeline of media coverage==
Nevermind, Higgs Raccoon did it.
Thanks Higgs.

2011 under April I can't see the danish article about furries
Link: http://www.dr.dk/P1/Klubvaerelset/Udsendelser/2011/04/16115910.htm
P1 is a danish radio station run by the state media DR.
The article name = Eng: Cool, nice and naughty furries, dk: Fede, flotte og frække furries
The air time was/is called Klubværelset(eng: Club room)
I was look to add it myself, but it seems a bit to complex for me.
I don't want to accidentally mess up the page.

==2nd request==
When you have time, can you or one of the mods check out the changes I have made to: http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Danish_furries
Will my changes meet the wikifur standards, or do I need to change some of it?!
I want to make it good.

Will it also still need to be marked: ''This article does not cite its references or sources. You can help WikiFur by adding references.'' and ''The use of time in this article lacks definition. Dates should be used instead of words like "today" and "currently".''
:''Replied on talk page''. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 16:46, 4 May 2013 (EDT)

== Oversight ==

Hi, please see [[Talk:Zidonuke]] for an oversight request regarding personal information missed during a previous suppression. [[User:Crashdoom|Crashdoom]] 17:23, 22 May 2013 (EDT)
:Please see [http://en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=Zidonuke&action=historysubmit&diff=403031&oldid=403011 here] for additional recent edits that re-add the removed content. ''I feel like I'm on a merry-go-round.'' [[User:Crashdoom|Crashdoom]] 11:47, 23 May 2013 (EDT)
::Your concern is noted and verified. The article is in temp lock down until the non-appropriate information is removed - [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 11:59, 23 May 2013 (EDT)
::: Question: How does oversight of specific revisions in any way justify full protection of the article? Or are you just, always this heavy handed in a manner which is totally counter productive to the very nature of Wiki's? [[User:Leon Hunter|Leon Hunter]] 13:38, 23 May 2013 (EDT)

== MrFoxyPaws ==

Hi and thanks for your comments:

''It is not necessary to use a qualifier such as "(series)" if there is no ambiguity. That said, I don't disagree with the use in this particular case, because it clarifies that it is a series of works.
Bear in mind that editors may choose to merge articles about creative works back into the article about their creator if there is no evidence that they have a significant following of their own (e.g. through publication). Not saying this will happen, just don't be surprised if you see it. --GreenReaper(talk) 18:24, 25 May 2013 (EDT)''

I created 'Boo and Kye' without (series) but reckoned that in the future it was likely there could be ambiguity over 'Frodo' as somebody may create another character of that name; or, equally, a 'Frodo' page might one day cover my fictional character whereas the (series) one would cover the series. So I kinda hovered between using (series) and not using it.

You're right my stories don't have a large following - is it better for me to try and fold them back now? although i'm not totally sure of the formatting for that. I'm more than happy to have a go. I did wonder about this point. I guess that i thought / hoped the number of stories, and that they are a series (with the cast of characters) would lend them some credibility. Also, they're at least of reasonable quality in terms of grammar and spelling etc because that's an interest of mine, having proof-read a novel for a friend. But i'm new to wikifur so happy to follow the guidelines. [[User:Foxypaws|MrFoxyPaws]]
:I'd say leave it as it is if you're comfortable with it now; if anyone feels the need to merge them later, hopefully they'll deal with it without removing any useful information. We most often do this when there is a true "stub" article that will never be of a significant size, just a few lines, but consistency can be a factor as well. Incidentally, you can sign and date your name in discussions with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 18:56, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

== Request ==

Would you please delete my userpage, [[User:Silver seren]]? It's been a long time since i've contributed here and I don't really have an inclination to at current and I would just prefer if my userpage was removed. Thank you. [[User:Silver seren|Silver]][[User talk:Silver seren|seren]][[Special:Contributions/Silver seren|C]] 06:10, 1 June 2013 (EDT)

:Sure. If you want it back later, let myself or another contributor know. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 16:57, 1 June 2013 (EDT)

== Locking my Page ==

Dear GreenReaper,

I am the original and owner of DiWolfe and the page of (well I didnt make it someone else did) and I would like to see if my page can be blocked from google searches, specifically and what it would take to do so. If not then I would just like the page deleted because I do not want it showing up in google searches.

Please let me know if possible and what to do to prove I am who I am if there are any doubts.

-DiWolfe

:Hi DiWolfe. I don't see a problem with deindexing it, given the current content. I've added a noindex tag. Google seems to be a bit obstinate about removing it from its index currently, but I'll try again in a few hours. (It often takes a couple of days to percolate through, anyway.) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 21:13, 28 June 2013 (EDT)

== New page for Lobocursor Lyceus, HELP! ==

H!

I am new here, somebody made a stub of me here but with wrong information. Trying to be less solitary, I think that maybe I need to correct the page by myself. I just finished so I hope you can check it and approve it or else. My changes do not show in my friends machines but only for me. :(

I hope you can check the page and help me with this. Thank you in advance! :) Pd. this is the page [[Lobocursor_Lyceus]]

-- Lobocursor

:Hi Lobocursor. Thanks for taking the time to contribute to WikiFur! Editors have already had at the article, but here's a few comments:
*[[:File:Lyceus Wikifur.jpg]] doesn't mention who the artist is, which we would like to do. If it is by you, just adding "by himself" is fine.
*We generally don't mention copyright of a character because it is implicit. (Registered trademarks do get mentioned, but more because there is other information that comes with that, and references.)
*The "admin comment" you mentioned in an edit summary was probably an attempt by Spirou to distill your own comment (". . . failed attempt to made a comic strip and novel with them").
*Use of "show preview" and edit summaries for each saved edit are a good idea (we're not always perfect here, either :-).
*You can sign your name and the date on talk pages with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>), or use three for just your name, five for just the date.
Edits are ''meant'' to be visible immediately, but sometimes are cached, especially for visitors. I've cleared the cache of the page on our servers, although it may still not be visible for a few hours at your friends' end. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 04:13, 29 June 2013 (EDT)

==Adding Navbox to the italian Wikifur==
Hello Green Reaper! In order to better sort the pages of the italian Wikifur, I was thinking about adding Navboxes templates under some pages (just like the ones the English Wikifur has under the convention related pages). I've seen, however, that the Navbox template doesn't work unless I install the ParserFunctions extention, which I couldn't install myself (it's way too much for my computer knowledges). Is there a way to make th installation easier, or should it be done by someone else? 
Thanks for your time and patience, and I understand you're at AC now, so I'll wait for your response after your return. :) 
[[User:Valery91Thunder|Valery91Thunder]] 03:11, 4 July 2013 (EDT)
:Hey Valery! [[:it:Speciale:Versione|ParserFunctions is already installed on all instances of WikiFur]], so it should work. Note that we're on a slightly older version so some of the very newest features may not be available. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 12:56, 8 July 2013 (EDT)

== Cannot reset password ==

Hello. This is user bunnyhugger, though I can't prove it. I forgot my password months ago and have been unable to reset it. I have tried numerous times to have a new password sent, but I never receive the email. The email address on file is probably my ameritech.net address, which is an AT&T address. Unfortunately, AT&T likes to go crazy blocking mail from any IPs they consider suspect. My best guess as to why I do not receive the mail is that AT&T has blacklisted wikifur.com. If that isn't it, then I have no idea.

Is there anything I can do to get access to my account back?
[[Special:Contributions/75.7.197.101|75.7.197.101]] 03:16, 10 July 2013 (EDT)

:I have sent instructions to the email address associated with the account from a non-wikifur.com address. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 10:36, 10 July 2013 (EDT)

== Coiltin3 ==

Remove from that member([[Special:Contributions/Coiltin3|Coiltin3]]), or something you can take. Digger [[User:Dokatamaru|'''SHREW''']] 04:54, 16 July 2013 (EDT)
:Done, thank you for letting me know. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 08:17, 16 July 2013 (EDT)

== Request for exclusion... ==

Hi, I'd like to request personal exclusion of both Leam and Adjectivecat. Please see this for more information http://en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Leam

I may not have a full understanding of the ethics or etiquette of wikis, but I know that inaccurate and obsolete information is more harmful than no information.

Thanks! [[User:Leam|Leam]] 03:19, 18 July 2013 (EDT)

:I've noted your request on [[Talk:Adjectivecat]]. [[Leam]] redirects to [[Adjectivecat]] and so will show the same template; unless you meant [[User:Leam]] (which we can delete outright if you wish, as it's a user page). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 11:29, 19 July 2013 (EDT)

::Thanks. If possible, I'd prefer that both [[Leam]] and [[Adjectivecat]] both have the same template and that Leam no longer redirect. Please go ahead and delete [[User:Leam]]. [[User:Leam|Leam]] 18:26, 20 July 2013 (EDT)

::Hi, GR, maybe I was confusing with my last message or there is something holding up my request? But the "same template" I was hoping to apply to Leam and Adjectivecat is the personal exclusion one. I appreciate that one doesn't redirect to the other anymore, but I'd like them both to be excluded from Wikifur. Thanks, and sorry if I was unclear previously. [[User:Leam|Leam]] 20:01, 27 July 2013 (EDT)

:::The articles were both excluded several days ago; however, the cached versions were not cleared. I have done this now and you should see the exclusion notice even if not logged-in. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 20:04, 27 July 2013 (EDT)

== Removal(?) ==

Actually, I didn't?. I was working on Disambiguation pages updates. May I have hit a wrong button,... but I was even near the front page since 19:59 Pacific Time, when I changed the block settings for [[W:RingtailedFox|RingtailedFox]]. I'm going to change passwords tout suite, just in case - [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 23:55, 25 July 2013 (EDT)

== Article removal request ==
I'd like you to remove and exclude further creation and editing the article of [[hu:Tanathy]] because he doesn't want to appear any form on any site, and also let any short of information be shared. Both Hungarian admins Neo_21670 and KékPáfrány was asked previously, but it was only proteced from further editing (without any reason). Thanks for your help.
--[[Special:Contributions/109.61.84.35|109.61.84.35]] 19:58, 26 July 2013 (EDT)
:Hi there. I am aware of this situation; I recently removed protection from the article, and the subject of the article edited it. However, [[WikiFur:Personal exclusion|personal exclusion]] is not a global directive, but specific to those language editions which have decided to use it. I will not enforce the removal of an article over the objections of local editors unless I see a compelling reason to do so. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 20:14, 26 July 2013 (EDT)

== Exclusion Request ==

Hi Green, Requesting exclusion from WikiFur for my article [[Leon Hunter]]. Furthermore I wish to add that should the request be granted, that the previous revision is removed on grounds of privacy. Cheers, [[User:Leon Hunter|Leon Hunter]] 09:55, 31 July 2013 (EDT)

:''Article was excluded.''

== 77.66.252.9 ==

Remove from that [http://ru.wikifur.com/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BB%D1%83%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F:Contributions/77.66.252.9 77.66.252.9]. [[User:Dokatamaru|'''SHREW''']] 09:45, 11 August 2013 (EDT)
:I was away, but it should be dealt with now. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 15:34, 12 August 2013 (EDT)

==Sannse censorship==
:[http://animeslaps.wikia.com/wiki/?diff=4268 I'm afraid I will be closing this wiki at the end of the week. I would suggest that you contact GreenReaper of WikiFur, I know that he has helped with hosting in a similar situation.]

I got [http://animeslaps.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Sannse contacted a week ago] with the threats to shut down my wiki because she's insisting that because I'm documenting instances of slapping in anime and stuff that I must be 'eroticizing' it as some kind of 'fanservice' and that it somehow breaks the Terms of Use. I completely disagree and can't find where the Terms are broken but this doesn't seem to matter as she's not budging and seems intent on bringing down the hammer regardless of how many explanations or offered concessions I make.

She asked I contact you for suggestions on how to retain the wiki so I was wondering if you might know. I know how to Special:Export so but this only appears to cover articles but not the image files I was hosting on them. At this point since so many images haven't even been identified (I just raided a blog post where the creator didn't attribute them to specific series/episodes/characters) they're very important to identifying some unknown scenes.

She mentioned something about bots that could download images from a wiki for us. Would you be familiar with how to do this? If not then I guess I have to get to the manual downloading which sucks. [[User talk:Tyciol|Ty]] 06:50, 13 August 2013 (EDT)
:Hmm. Actually, I don't believe I've ever hosted a migrating wiki, apart of course from [[WikiFur]] itself. The [[Uncyclopedia:Forum:Village Dump|Uncyclopedia crew]] have more recent experience of moving from Wikia hosting and it might be best to ask them what they did. My largest contribution to that was [[MediaWikiWiki:Extension:MediaWikiAuth|MediaWikiAuth]], which lets people login and transfer their account from another wiki (and which should actually work with current versions of MediaWiki after their gentle ministrations). [http://wowpedia.org Wowpedia] also left with a lot of files.
:When it comes to a wiki-specific tool for image transfer, you might want to look at [[MediaWikiWiki:Manual:Pywikipediabot/imagetransfer.py|pywikipediabot's imagetransfer.py]]. I haven't used it but if you can whip up a family file for your wiki and a target instance of MediaWiki to put it onto (several hosts offer turnkey MediaWiki installs), it may work. There are many tools you can use to create an image of a site; I'd suggest trying [http://www.httrack.com/ HTTrack] and see how you go if the image transfer doesn't work out. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 07:54, 13 August 2013 (EDT)

== Reverts ==

The IP that's been editing my page and Seto's really needs blocked, if possible, or our pages locked to logged-in accounts only. I don't really know how wikis work about this kind of thing, but... uh. She's been bothering us for the past few months. Don't need this petty dramz on a public site. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:BlauRascon|BlauRascon]] ([[User talk:BlauRascon|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/BlauRascon|contribs]]) .
:They claim that their edit is a "true fact". Is it? (We don't have to have relationship information there at all, but if it is, it should be accurate.) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 03:41, 1 September 2013 (EDT)
::It is not. We are not in an open relationship, never have been, and never will be. She's bothered us before on other sites, she's just following me here. Either way, just checked her userpage, Spirou's blocked her for a month - that should be enough time for her to lose interest. Thanks so much! --[[User:BlauRascon|BlauRascon]] 17:01, 2 September 2013 (EDT)

== Please remove my article ==
Can you please remove my article - http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Shadowpelt thank you - shadowpelt
:I have noted your request on the [[Talk:Shadowpelt#Exclusion request|attached discussion page]]. Given the page's content, you may need to make a convincing case there as to why it is not in the fandom's best interest to keep the article around. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 08:43, 19 September 2013 (EDT)
::I'd really like to know why I haven't received any response about this situation for over a month now, thank you. - Shadowpelt

== Dead Link Alert ==

http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?GodKing is now dead so I am still not sure what you mean by not being a godking?
http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?BenevolentDictator has also lead to a dead site page —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Jwktrucker|Jwktrucker]] ([[User talk:Jwktrucker|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jwktrucker|contribs]]) .

:They both work here. Perhaps the site was temporarily down. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 13:34, 22 October 2013 (EDT)

== sup ==

Long time no see. Now that Onideus is gone we can spend more time together. [[Special:Contributions/50.23.115.119|50.23.115.119]] 22:19, 13 November 2013 (EST)

== No language interwiki on WikiFur? ==
i'm registrated on english WikiFur but can't switch over to the german version. Why not?
Isn't there a so called Interwiki connection? Do i have to register of a new for the german version? --[[User:Saviour1981|Saviour1981]] 01:20, 27 November 2013 (EST)
:WikiFur does have langauge [[mw:Manual:Interwiki|interwikis]], but does not have [[mw:Extension:CentralAuth|CentralAuth]] or [[mw:Manual:$wgSharedDB|a shared user database]]. You have to register a separate account. If you use the same username and password, it will be automatically linked if we do enable CentralAuth in the future. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 01:24, 27 November 2013 (EST)

== FurrTrax ==

I made some changes further to the FurrTrax page, incorporating a bunch of edits by someone, as i said not a wiki expert, but i like the way it looks now. If its alright with you, i would like to update the page myself as needed once a month, occasionally a user known as foxxer may also make minor changes as needed. The reason i link to staff is so that there is always a life line of contact for those who need help on the site, or if trouble starts either drama related or malfunctions wise, the word can spread quickly, and people can find out who to contact even if they cannot reach the site. Thanks for the time bro.

== Question ==

Just wonder if their is a way to close my user account? [[user:MilitaryAviator]] 19:19EST 26 december 2013
:''Replied on [[User talk:MilitaryAviator]]'' --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 22:13, 26 December 2013 (EST)
::ok thanks again man -[[user:MilitaryAviator]] 22:23 EST 26 december 2013

== Per ==

I would like an exclusion from this site under the user name Ink Stained Rat ( http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Ink_Stained_Rat ) and from any future 'People' articles that may be titled with my alternate fandom name 'Calligraphy.'
:Sure, I've noted your request on the talk page and unless there's any objection it should be [[WikiFur:Personal exclusion|excluded]] a day or so after that. I can redirect Calligraphy to there right away. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 17:02, 31 December 2013 (EST)

== Input requested. ==

Hi Green,

Seems Spirou has gotten involved in an editing dispute where he later used protection and false citations (IE: providing a citation for a fact when the citation is openly stated to be the mere speculation of an individual). I have written a war and peace epic on the topic and would appreciate your guidance, as this kind of behaviour from Spirou is becoming routine much to the dismay of involved editors. [[Talk:Zidonuke]] [[User:Leon Hunter|Leon Hunter]] 22:02, 11 January 2014 (EST)

== furry.it ==

Hello, I am the owner of furry.it domain. I've switched the service from web redirect to dns managment to take advance of the name for other services (ie: have email redirect with @furry.it) and I was wondering if I could someway redirect http://furry.it (or http://wiki.furry.it or http://www.furry.it) to http://it.wikifur.com/ .
(cname or something alike) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:79.46.118.180|79.46.118.180]] ([[User talk:79.46.118.180|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/79.46.118.180|contribs]]) .
:''Dealt with in IRC.'' --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 06:12, 13 February 2014 (EST)

== Becoming a curator ==

What credentials and qualifications would I need to become a curator or a admin of sorts. I wish to contribute and volunteer my services. Thank you. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:69.47.50.187|69.47.50.187]] ([[User talk:69.47.50.187|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/69.47.50.187|contribs]]) .
:Having an account would be a start. WikiFur editors generally become [[WikiFur:Colleagues|colleagues]] after an extended period of editing (in the order of over six months and a thousand edits), such that they become familiar with how the site and that other colleagues can judge their suitability. Most editing can be done by any registered user. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 04:17, 15 March 2014 (EDT)

==File upload problems==

Good evening, I'm having trouble with a file I uploaded [http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/File:Katbox_logo_2.png (this one)]. It had too much whitespace when I uploaded it, but when I cropped it, it came out skewed in the upload. So I uploaded the original again, but then the previous version looked fine, so I reverted, only to have it come out skewed again. Frankly, I'm stumped. Is this something you can fix? I've reverted to the version with too much space for now. -[[User:Captain Video|Captain Video]] 02:11, 15 March 2014 (EDT)

:WikiFur's images are cached and uploading a new one that is a different size under the same name may cause temporary issues because the website is sizing the image appropriately for the current version but your browser is accessing the cached version. I have reverted to the cropped version and cleared all caches relating to that image; it seems to look correct now. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 03:21, 15 March 2014 (EDT)

== hey ==

i heard you were a big deal around here, is this true? --[[User:Likeicare|Likeicare]] 03:31, 15 March 2014 (EDT)

i'm waitin--[[User:Likeicare|Likeicare]] 04:38, 15 March 2014 (EDT)

== XOTW ==

* http://imgur.com/B7usG7D

The Main Page has red links. [[User:Interstellar Shipping & Trading Co.|Interstellar Shipping & Trading Co.]] 03:09, 17 March 2014 (EDT)

:Yes, that tends to happen sometimes. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 03:10, 17 March 2014 (EDT)

:: * en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=Template:WikiFur_Central/Comic_of_the_Week&action=purge
::Do you have a sysop dashboard that you can put onto your userpage? Sometimes I have to purge a page's cache to fix the problems. [[User:Interstellar Shipping & Trading Co.|Interstellar Shipping & Trading Co.]] 03:13, 17 March 2014 (EDT)

:::No, we do not. You have to know the secret incantations yourself! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 03:15, 17 March 2014 (EDT)

* [[WikiFur:Comic of the Week/Week {{#time:W, Y}}|{{#ifexist:WikiFur:Comic of the Week/Week {{#time:W, Y}}|SET|NOT SET}}]]
* [[WikiFur:Comic of the Week/Week {{#time:W, Y|+1 week}}|{{#ifexist:WikiFur:Comic of the Week/Week {{#time:W, Y|+1 week}}|SET|NOT SET}}]]
* [[WikiFur:Comic of the Week/Week {{#time:W, Y|+2 weeks}}|{{#ifexist:WikiFur:Comic of the Week/Week {{#time:W, Y|+2 weeks}}|SET|NOT SET}}]]

Enjoy. [[User:Interstellar Shipping & Trading Co.|Interstellar Shipping & Trading Co.]] 03:33, 17 March 2014 (EDT)

== Hi ==

Hi there,

Thank about the page, Didn't know for sure yet how to do everything.

And the DA page is a mistake with age, I putted 1990 there, but probably something went wrong and since then it's 1989, Even though my real birth is December 17, 1990 ( 23 )

Not sure yet how to change the rest though, Linking the DA, FA and SF page soon too, Could use some help though.

Thank you :)

== RE:Protection of templates ==

If the need to protect templates hasn't presented itself then I'm good with that. [[User:Interstellar Shipping & Trading Co.|Interstellar Shipping & Trading Co.]] 08:40, 19 March 2014 (EDT)

== Comic of the Week ==

Now it is no longer difficult for others to [[WikiFur:Comic of the Week/Candidates|'''locate''']] comics to feature. I'll clean up the mess I made later. Enjoy. [[User:Interstellar Shipping & Trading Co.|Interstellar Shipping & Trading Co.]] 16:39, 22 March 2014 (EDT)
:Thanks. [[User:Interstellar Shipping & Trading Co.|Interstellar Shipping & Trading Co.]] 02:26, 26 March 2014 (EDT)

== Removal of link on page about Nathalie ==

Hi,

I edited the link because I am basically the person the page is about and thelink isn't relevant anymore... I added the page a long time ago and couldn't remeber my original username and password so I had to create a new one. I will add the new link to my artwork once it's live. Thank you and if you have any more question please ask me. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Lioness34|Lioness34]] ([[User talk:Lioness34|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Lioness34|contribs]]) .
:I see! The account in question appears to be "Nato". If you wish to regain access to it, you will have to login with the username and password from when we were on wikia.com; if you cannot remember it, you may reset your password there first, and then login here with that new password. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 07:01, 12 April 2014 (EDT)
::I tried login in on wikia but couldn't remember what email address I had used to join so Icouldn't login and gave up... Is it ok to keepon using this user profile instead? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Lioness34|Lioness34]] ([[User talk:Lioness34|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Lioness34|contribs]]) .
:::Sure, there's no problem with that. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 21:16, 14 April 2014 (EDT)

== Higgs Raccoon ==

<pre>(Deletion log); 10:09 . . Higgs Raccoon (Talk | contribs) deleted "Talking Angela" (Insufficient content/context: two external links and no text do not make an article)</pre>
* [[Special:NewPages|New Pages ({{#time:F j, Y|-7 days}})]]
Could I suggest that administrators wait at least 72 hours before going on a deletion rampage. If it is a crime to leave something in the mainspace unfinished for less than 24 hours then I won't do it again. But elsewhere I personally give people at least 2 weeks to work on stuff. Also instead of clicking the delete button, it would have taken him a couple minutes to convert that into a stub. All I'm saying is a little more effort by the administrators would go a long way to encourage others to contribute. [[User:Interstellar Shipping & Trading Co.|Interstellar Shipping & Trading Co.]] 08:38, 17 April 2014 (EDT)
:Yes, it ''is'' a crime to save a page which is just a couple of links without context. If you are "currently" editing an article, intend to return to it soon, but need to make a save for security purposes or because you're changing location, you should use {{tl|inuse}}.
:Curators are there to help if you have problems, and to help ensure that articles are at a consistent level of quality, not to write entire articles based on a couple of links that you found interesting. If it would have taken another person a couple of minutes to create a stub, it would have taken ''you'' even less to provide the same information. If you don't, we may assume that it's not worth anyone's time, and delete it. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 08:49, 17 April 2014 (EDT)
:: As I said, I wasn't finished. Either way I hope you will seriously consider asking administrators to wait 72 hours before pouncing on newpages. And sometimes dropping a couple links isn't a bad idea, there might be others who are interested in the topic. It appears there was a bit of controversy about Talking Angela and I have been looking to see what, if any, interest there is. [[User:Interstellar Shipping & Trading Co.|Interstellar Shipping & Trading Co.]] 09:05, 17 April 2014 (EDT)

== Personal Exclusion ==

I would the page about me ( [[jwoulf]] ) excluded from Wikifur, and the images associated with my page deleted. I feel I have shared far too much information about myself online.

Update: Thank you for excluding the page, this is greatly appreciated. The talk page for my page still contains some of the information from my page though. Is it possible to remove that too?

== Site is being vandalized ==

http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Nickolas - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 13:22, 24 April 2014 (EDT)

== Closing/Deleting pages ==

Is there any way to have a page deleted from the site? Namely, this one: http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/FIGNUTS!

I don't actually own this fursuit anymore, nor is the character relevant. I'm just wondering.

Thanks.

== Remove Requests ==

Please remove Dodger Wolfe Fang and Dodger Fang off of Google and other search engines please and delete the accounts also please because they're no longer used. I don't want my character's name be in search results from this site please. Thank you and take care.

http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/User:Dodger_Fang

http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/User_talk:Dodger_Wolfe_Fang

Dodger

User talk:GreenReaper

2014-04-23T12:23:25Z

Germanshepherd: /* Personal Exclusion */ new section

Jwoulf

2010-06-19T11:09:35Z

Germanshepherd:

Jwoulf

2008-07-25T05:23:08Z

Germanshepherd:

Talk:Mozdoc

2008-07-13T03:28:16Z

Germanshepherd:

<div style="float:right; border:2px solid #bbbbbb; width:150px;">
<center>'''Discussion Pages'''</center>
*[[/Archive1|Archive 1]] (May 2007 - June 2008)
</div>
'''Older conversations have been archived. Please view the links on the right review old threads.'''

== Voting phase ==

As stated under '''Exclusion redux''' and '''Removal of real name?''', I now hereby summarize the opinions given so far on this page as if they were a set of votes, to help establish consensus among the WikiFur community on this point. Registered users may add or change their position and commentary until this period for comment closes on '''Monday the 30th of June'''. On the advice of GreenReaper, I am not noting here who is an admin; you can easily [[WikiFur:Administrators|look it up]] if you want to know. Once we have a fully measured consensus - or its lack, which seems possible, I will have a guideline for what action to take next. Please understand that I am trying not to let my emotions show in this matter, in order to give my actions the appearance of fairness.
;Notes:
* Regardless of belligerence, this action is due to Mozdoc making a request for the single redaction of his legal name, which places him in the "for" category. My taking any action on this is already exceptional (especially since he has shopped around among admins through all possible means of contact, trying to find someone who would give him more than the time of day - and ended up banned from nearly all such avenues of contact due to his rude, solipsistic, domineering, and harassing behavior); should consensus point to removal of his name from this article, I will refuse to make any other change or allow the removal any other information from the page without a further exceptional reason (such as legal enforcement of a judicial ruling).
* There are two other users who appear to have interest primarily in this discussion and little else on WikiFur: Michichael (whose only contributions to the wiki are two comments to this Talk page and a spelling fix on [[Jwoulf]]), and HellcatCordelia (whose only contributions to the wiki are three comments on this Talk page). Because I know of no other reason to refuse it, I will extend full faith and credit to their comments here.

Summary of arguments as of Monday night, 23 June, if all commentary is given one full vote (let me know if I got the interpretation wrong or put you in the wrong category):
:'''+4 for redaction''' (Mozdoc, Michichael, Rootdown, and HellcatCordelia)
Arguments include: Because he wants it and everyone who denies him is stupid and wrong; because he's changed and is currently harmless; WikiFur has no jurisdiction in matters of public interest; displaying the name is a form of punishment which shouldn't be allowed on the wiki.
:'''=3 neutral''' (GreenReaper, Siege, and Spirou)
Responses include: Provisional support provided the public interest has no further need of such information; similar provisional support; refusing to take a position and inherit its pain.
:'''-4 against redaction''' (Spaz Kitty, Findra, DuncanDaHusky, Ayukawataur)
Arguments include: Because he is a threat to others and should be watched; because he has made legally actionable threats, and keeping the name in will be a great time-saver for legal action; reiteration of threat which needs watching; because he has not changed from his prior recorded behavior, and should therefore not receive any greater privilege such as the removal of information.

Balanced, without a clear direction. That's how things stand at the start of this week, as I read them here. If someone wishes to make a clarifying argument, I would be pleased to attend to their words. -- [[User:Siege|Siege]]([[User talk:Siege|talk]]) 08:25, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

:The 30th of June conflicts with Anthrocon. Many users from this Wiki will be at the con from the 26th to the 29, and may not even be aware of this vote until after the 30th due to convention-related travel.
:I'd like to ask that the date be pushed back to '''July 7th''', so that all parties may have sufficient time to comment. --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 15:43, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

::I concur. I'll be out until late on the 30th. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 17:46, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

:::I vote for redaction as well. I can understand to some degree Mozdoc's hostility in the matter - I have dealt with far too many people who just do not listen to polite requests, and only pay attention when you "get in their face" as the saying goes.

:::What can it hurt to remove his real name from the article? After all, it would be a show of goodwill - and if he DOESN'T calm down as a result, it could always be re-added to the article ;) [[User:AnthroSamurai|All hail VLADUZ - the EBAY IMPALER!]] 10:46, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

::::I don't recall polite requests for exclusion from Mozdoc. Certainly [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Mozdoc&diff=next&oldid=135319 the page edit] which [http://furry.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Mozdoc/Archive1#Exclusion Rat interpreted as a request for exclusion] was less than polite.
::::At any rate, I'll declare myself neutral on whether to remove Mozdoc's real name from the article. -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 18:42, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

::::I disagree. Its YOUR loss and my gain that it just so happens that the thirtyith coincides with Anthrocon. This voting proceedure will END on the end of this month, and WILL NOT be extended any further. This bullshit has already been dragged out two fucking weeks, I'm not letting it go for a third. Stick to the original ending date and quit putting me through this bullshit.
::::--Mozdoc {{unsigned|Mozdoc|01:35, 26 June 2008 (UTC)}}

::::: no offense jeremy, but i am going to agree with [[User:Dmuth|douglas muth]] above. it is in the better interests of the community to allow for a well informed decision to be made than a hasty one.
::::: and a bit of advice. attempting to dictate to the staff of wikifur how they will run their system is not going to win you any votes among them. in fact, illustrating a measure of patience and respect may actually help your case.
::::: --[[User:Ayukawataur|Ayukawataur : FurBid-SF Administaur]] 16:22, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

::::: I'm in two minds about this. Do we not come to furries as a way of fantasy flight, to get away from real live? The truth is I read/scanning over this. To say that "Other people make names available so why not us?" is also not right. Most people start on here with only an internet name and grow from there, wishing there real life not to be known. Is this not going to cause people from steering clear of joining groups? Granted I am utterly mortified and disgusted about what I read above and simply could not read some of it. The thing that got me the most is the swearing in the posts. For me if he asks for it to be removed, it should unless he was found guilty in ordinance with the justice system. Looking over this I can see enough that this could happen.
::::: --[[User:VWhitepaw|VWhitepaw]] 18:19, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

:::::: a quick note. he was found guilty in a court of law (http://www.furbid.ws/images/administaur/restrain.pdf). that is part of what the whole problem is. with his history of terrorizing others, people have a right to know who and what they are dealing with.
:::::: --[[User:Ayukawataur|Ayukawataur : FurBid-SF Administaur]] 01:57, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

:::::::I say go ahead and remove the name. It's not really necessary to the article and if people really needed to obtain his name for some reason it'd probably be easy enough to find particularly since this debate has been going on for what over a month? --[[User:SnowdriftGM|SnowdriftGM]] 18:20, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

:::::::: I say go ahead and remove the name and article, if it is the wish of the person, to not be in such a article, then their wishes should be followed, and their names and the artical removed. Afterall its their name and such on the article. (Rangerwolf) {{unsignedIP|208.192.66.64|20:04, 26 June 2008 (UTC)}}

To Sine: No, there was no polite request; I simply chose to interpret the verb rather than the emotion. As I may have mentioned before, if I were responding emotionally, Mozdoc would have just been ignored and the matter dropped.

Other business: A time extension has been proposed and seconded, and I don't personally see it as any great onus to add a further week, considering how much community attention is normally focused on Anthrocon (MU*s, chat rooms, and forums are generally depleted of users, and I don't see WikiFur as any exception to this). My intention is and has been to give time for adequate protest in the first phase (one week, unencumbered); protest was given, so I opened a vote. And I intend to give that vote sufficient time for comment, because that's the very purpose of a vote. I made no promise to render ''speedy'' judgement, but three weeks (total) is generally much faster than most cases progress in a real court of law. '''Monday the 7th of July''' is fine with me, and that makes four votes for extension; anyone else? -- [[User:Siege|Siege]]([[User talk:Siege|talk]]) 16:55, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

:We are extending the vote to July 7th mostly for Anthrocon, as it affects a few furs/non-furs, but that is the July 4th weekend,... which will affect more people, their family and friends than the con itself (I'm flying cross country myself that weekend.) '''Monday July 14th''' maybe? [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 19:54, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

::NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!

::You are NOT extending this shit to have two more fucking weeks included in it just because the dates you choose coincide with Anthrocon and the July Fourth weekend. Fuck off. Dragging me through all this shit, extending this fucking voting process THREE WEEKS all because of pointless events is evidence that NO ONE at WikiFur wants this bullshit to ever fucking end and so as such my entire article needs to be removed immediately. Its obvious NO ONE can keep a fucking time table and stick to it around here, always changing shit at a moments notice.

::THIS VOTING ENDS JUNE THIRTYITH AND NO LATER. I'M SICK OF THIS SHIT. MY ENTIRE ARTICLE SHOULD BE CONSIDERED FOR REMOVAL FOR HAVING TO PUT UP WITH YOU PEOPLE.

::--Mozdoc {{unsigned|Mozdoc|23:57, 27 June 2008 (UTC)}}

:::The events mentioned as reasons for extending the voting period are hardly inconsequential. I ''do'' want the bullshit to end, but mind you, we're most likely not focused on exactly the same thing. We aren't doing this to jerk your chain; we want to make sure the community is heard. However, I agree that this is getting a bit silly. My family rarely went anywhere on Independence Day - of course, for eight years or so, the local fireworks show was held at the end of our street - so I don't have a good measure on who's going to be out, or for how long; do you spend the entire week travelling and visiting, Spirou? Maybe close on '''Wednesday''' or '''Thursday''' so folks have a chance to catch up, but it's not going to be the end of the world if we can't catch absolutely everyone. -- [[User:Siege|Siege]]([[User talk:Siege|talk]]) 13:05, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

::::It was just a suggestion to discuss, not an order for people to carry on. [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 20:07, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

:::::'''Ayukawataur: "a quick note. he was found guilty in a court of law" '''

:::::I hate to say this, but being found guilty in a court of law in this country in this day and age does not really mean much....

:::::In my own research and experience, guilt or innocence tends to be decided by such things as wealth, influence, and popularity. :( Think I am wrong? Then by all :::::means ask me to show you some court records - some of which I was personally involved (did not do what I was accused of, yet was crucified anyway... ) [[User:AnthroSamurai|All hail VLADUZ - the EBAY IMPALER!]] 22:48, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

:::::: i am perfectly aware of how it works. i have been in court more times than i care to count. my wifes family is 99% lawyers, both defense and prosecution, as well as civil law. and i have to say one thing.
:::::: there is no doubt that jeremy did what he was penalized for. he was not only found guilty, he has admitted multiple times since that he has done it.
:::::: yes, i want to see this end as well. however, i have not gone through everything i did dealing with him for my own benefit. it was done to give the rest of the fandom a chance to see that you can stand up to his kind of behavior and can protect yourself from that form of lunacy. no one in this world deserves to be targeted by people like him. they do not need to be terrorized. they do not deserve it, and as long as there exist people who openly attempt to use threat of force as a domination factor, the rest of us have a right to know who they are and how to protect ourselves from them.
:::::: --[[User:Ayukawataur|Ayukawataur : FurBid-SF Administaur]] 21:37, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

:::::::Its just come to my attention that this website WikiFur is being unfair to those of the furry fandom who want to participate in this, and don't want to become part of your cesspool of shit by creating a name for themselves. Forcing people to become registered users? Completely unfair and uncalled for. I'm getting contacted by random people who've tried to add their support in to this page for one of the sides and find themselves unable to because they're being forced to register. GET IT THROUGH YOUR FUCKING HEADS THAT MAYBE NOT EVERYONE WANTS TO BE DRAGGED DOWN INTO SOME FULL OF SHIT WEBSITE LIKE WIKIFUR AND WANT TO KEEP THEIR NAMES OFF OF IT. If you're going to decide who can support who and leave comments here, then this website is really pushing some legal issues. EVERYONE should be allowed to leave their support here whether they're registered or not.

:::::::--Mozdoc{{unsigned|Mozdoc|00:06, 29 June 2008 (UTC)}}

::::::: I voted to have his name removed because the recent continuation of this whole facade is becoming unreasonably reaching on the borderline of internet harasment on Mozdoc sake. Yes he may of said some things that were regrettable and I understand that you wish to protect users, but to hold someones real life information against their wishes is wrong and most probably illegal. There are websites like Fchan has a DNP list of those who wish not to have their information posted against their wishes.. Moz has told me that he only wants this page to be taken down and that he can move on from this ridiculousness. I already gave him advice to follow if this does continue on beyond Anthrocon.. I wish you luck Moz..

:::::::- Dunc (aka Duncan Wulfweards) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.166.142.24 ([[User talk:71.166.142.24|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/71.166.142.24|contribs]]) 00:38 and 00:47, 29 June 2008 (UTC) 

:::::::: actually, and yes i know that is bad english, but it does working for me, the moment the order was signed by a judge, it became a matter of public record. what he did, how he did it, all files related to it, they are all available to any person who wishes to see them.
:::::::: and the copy of the order is available to any person who wishes to see it. and, at the very top of it, it has his name, what he was facing, and what the penalty was. since then he has not changed, he has not stopped his behavior, hurting people who do not deserve to be hurt, and has done nothing to illustrate that he deserves to be able to stealth his way into the lives of even more innocent artists.
:::::::: harassment is what he does... this is a debate on a privately owned system as to whether or not the administration, and the community, is going to turn a blind eyes and give into the threats of another individual, or stand up and tell him that they will not tolerate his bullying actions any more.
:::::::: (this post brought to you three dictionaries and two grammar checking systems.)
:::::::: --[[User:Ayukawataur|Ayukawataur : FurBid-SF Administaur]] 08:16, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

:::::::::What I cannot fathom is that the very person keeping this going on wikifur ALSO happens to have had personal involvement in the situation as a whole. I honestly believe that Ayukawataur needs to step back from such an active role in this matter. As I have said before, it is like an officer investigating a crime commjited against his/her family - A decent department will actually prohibit such because of the possibilty of clouded judgement and/or poor decisions on the part of that officer(to put it in layman's terms).

:::::::::There's too great of a chance for abuse if the officer IS involved in such a situation.

:::::::::To that end, I shall ask once more - Ayukawataur, will you kindly take a step back from your active role in this? [[User:AnthroSamurai|All hail VLADUZ - the EBAY IMPALER!]] 14:11, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

== Voting tally (June 29th, 2008) ==

''' +6 for redaction''' (Mozdoc, Michichael, Rootdown, HellcatCordelia, SnowdriftGM, AnthoSamurai)

''' =4 neutral''' (GreenReaper, Siege, Spirou, Sine )

''' -4 against redaction''' (Spaz Kitty, Findra, DuncanDaHusky, Ayukawataur)

[[User:AnthroSamurai|All hail VLADUZ - the EBAY IMPALER!]] 14:23, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

: i really do not have a choice in this matter. other people keep dragging me back into it. not only did he drag me through more problems than many can comprehend, but it is a regular occurrence for others to come to me asking that i help them with how to deal with him.
: a large number have already contacted me and informed me that they wish they could vote, but the fact they can not vote anonymously means he would know who they are, and they fear for their own safety. even then many are afraid that he would figure out who they are by the ip records. kind of a sad thing when that much fear exists due to the actions of a single individual.
: either way, i never wanted to be part of this. i all but begged him, actually i did beg him back in the early days, to not force my hand. but he created this situation. i am doing no more than playing out the part i was handed. if you had been around since the beginning, and/or had actually done your research, you would have known that.
: my vote remains as is, however, i will also state if the community decides otherwise, i will be more than happy to be the one to remove it. though, i will also point out, there is information that is pertinent to both mine and my wifes, as well as furbids page, that was removed by me in order to better facilitate the information being in only a single place. that place was his page. if it is removed, i will be adding it back on the relative pages, for posterity sake.
: something you should keep in mind. this is not just his information here. it belongs to three of us. and as long as that is true, he may have the right to ask it to be removed from his page, but i also have the right to place the applicable information, sans name direct, on our pages - because it 'is' our history as well.
: --[[User:Ayukawataur|Ayukawataur : FurBid-SF Administaur]] 17:27, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

::No you will not repost any removed information on your own pages or elsewhere. My request for complete and total exclusion means that once this page is removed, any mention or whatever you have written on your pages about me is also to be removed. No questions asked. It will be like me and you never crossed paths.

::--Mozdoc {{unsigned|Mozdoc|21:23, 29 June 2008 (UTC)}}

::: we are voting on your removal of name, not on the removal of your existence. and, you do not have the right to edit my life or my wifes life, or the history of what you have done to furbid.
::: --[[User:Ayukawataur|Ayukawataur : FurBid-SF Administaur]] 00:30, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

::::You know Ayukawataur, I'm begining to wonder whether you are friends with a certain woman from California whom has been termed the ''' "Wicked Witch of the West" '''. Your statement parrots her's nearly word for word on reasons why your supposed "friends" don't show up and vote, And in Triple W's case, she was doing her damnedest to manipulate all the users of an entire forum into backing her, using lies twisted information and even people's Real Life information to intimidate others into letting her have her way - which was total control of the forum - all the while claiming she was an "innocent victim" and people were out to get her "for no reason".

::::Granted Mozdoc taking Kacey's art and using it is not right (IF it happened exactly like you claim it did - there IS the possibility of embelishment), but continueing the conflict just because you can is not right either, regardless of the angle.

::::[[User:AnthroSamurai|All hail VLADUZ - the EBAY IMPALER!]] 03:56, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

::::: I have to agree with Ayukawataur on this. Mozdoc doesn't have the right to change history, and he has a specific history with those two and Furbid. What I'm looking to support here are the three qualities of justice, mercy, and plain speaking, in support of the balance between individual rights and the public good. In this case, opening the question of whether retaining his personal name on the article is the right thing to do. If Mozdoc chose to refuse this community action and seek legal recourse, I would have to ask that the vote be abandoned, and I would refuse to make the change under discussion pending the results of said legal action. At this time, he hasn't said whether he wanted to abandon this route, so I am assuming in good faith that he is willing to continue to participate.

::::: I don't see this as continuing a conflict. I see it as resolving a particular issue, so that people can agree to let it go, and everyone can move on and deal with the remaining effects of whatever decision is made. We need less drama and more joy around here, but not at the cost of others' dignity or need for fairness. -- [[User:Siege|Siege]]([[User talk:Siege|talk]]) 15:05, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

By the way, I have removed the unregistered votes from the current tally. Registration is quick and easy, and we ask that if you want to vote, that you please give yourself a name we can address on this wiki. It doesn't have to be your fursona name (though many use theirs); it doesn't have to be your real name; but it is very helpful for us to be able to contact you to address any concerns that may arise (on your part or on ours). Besides, we like to see our community grow! :) -- [[User:Siege|Siege]]([[User talk:Siege|talk]]) 15:11, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

:On the (perhaps inaccurate) presumption that the voting deadline is, in fact, ''not'' 30 June, but, rather, 7 or 14 July: I vote for keeping Mozdoc's real name on his WikiFur page. The guy has made ''serious death threats,'' for crying out loud! As for his protestations about no longer wanting to be part of the fandom, said protestations ring ''awfully'' damned hollow, considering that he was [[http://furry.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Mozdoc/Archive1#analysis_of_mozdoc_at_fc.2708 on staff at Further Confusion '08]] -- and those who think Ayukawataur is conducting some sort of vendetta against Mozdoc might, perhaps, take note of what the Big A. had to say about Mozdoc in that link: "I note that this year, [Mozdoc] was not only an excellent gofer, but he was quite well restrained. ... an excellent worker who was able to quite methodically reorganize the constore materials ... an excellent (how ever abrasive) door guard ... i would like it to be added to his page that he did behave himself quite well." ''Those'' are the words of someone who is monomaniacally determined to have Mozdoc's head on a platter, come hell or high water? Not. It's just a pity that Mozdoc's approach to this whole sordid affair has pretty much ''always'' been "You fucking MORONS can just ''obey my every command'' without question -- or '''I'll fucking KILL YOU IN YOUR SLEEP!!'''" As far as I'm concerned, Mozdoc is just trying to evade the consequences of his own ''highly'' suboptimal behavior. So, to sum up, I say "The name stays in". [[User:Cubist|Cubist]] 05:45, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

::The statement that Mozdoc was 'on staff' at Further Confusion 2008 is incorrect. He was a volunteer at Further Confusion 2008, and not staff. I speak from my position of Executive Secretary for FC2008. --[[User:Findra|Findra]] 16:09, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

:::''Instant addendum:'' It occured to me that Mozdoc's "I don't want to be part of this community" complaints merely refer to a desire to not be ''WikiFur'' community in specific, rather than a desire to not be part of ''furry fandom'' community in general. If that's the case, Mozdoc is ''seriously'' deluded. WikiFur exists to document the furry fandom; Mozdoc is very definitely a part of said fandom; therefore, Mozdoc damn well ''is'' 'fair game' for inclusion in WikiFur. And all of his '''obey me or DIE, you fucking morons!!!''' whines are just not going to help any. [[User:Cubist|Cubist]] 05:58, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

:::sez findra: "(Mozdoc) was a volunteer at Further Confusion 2008, and not staff." I had been under the impression that a convention's "staff" includes ''everybody'' who works 'behind the scenes' to make a convention happen, be they full-fledged ConCom members or volunteer gophers or what. Stupid (albeit honest) question: Why ''isn't'' a "volunteer" considered to be part of a convention's "staff"? Is this just a traditional term of art, or what? [[User:Cubist|Cubist]] 11:19, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

::::A staff member at a convention is usually someone who is scheduled in advance, works in a specific department, and has a specific role laid out for them. Volunteers by comparison are just random folks who walk up and offer to help. They have no set commitment, and can put in as much or as little work as they like, and can work in different areas during the con. Volunteers who work a lot usually become staff members the following year. :-) At least, that's how the volunteer and staff system works at Anthrocon. --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 13:42, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

== Vote tally (July 3rd, 2008) ==

''' +6 for redaction''' (Mozdoc, Michichael, Rootdown, HellcatCordelia, SnowdriftGM, AnthoSamurai)

''' =4 neutral''' (GreenReaper, Siege, Spirou, Sine )

''' -6 against redaction''' (Spaz Kitty, Findra, DuncanDaHusky, Ayukawataur, Cubist, KendricksRedtail)

The vote seems close. If Michichael happens to pass by this page again, I'd be happy if he could clarify whether his last statement here qualifies as a different vote, just to make sure that his opinion is given proper acknowledgement. With the time extension in mind, I think '''July 7''' at '''12:01am''' is an entirely fair date to close for final tally and action taken, so I'll be giving my opinion at that time, and making my closing move on this page. And then I'll move on. -- [[User:Siege|Siege]]([[User talk:Siege|talk]]) 06:02, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

:Cubist, Have you ever even considered the the situation might be a result of the "breakdown of diplomacy"? If neither side is willing to lower their sabre, at least part way, things will only continue the way they have been.

:'''Removing his name would not necessarily have to be permanent - whether it remains off the article would be dependant upon Mozdoc's future conduct.'''

:It seems that in this day and age, the only thing being polite and respectful gets a person is ignored, told to f - off, or hit. And THAT is what I believe is going on with Mozdoc - society has kind of taught him the bad habit that unless you are confrontational and ready to resort to force, people will not listen to you.

:'''If we are going to judge Mozdoc on what society as a whole has drummed into him, then we need also judge ourselves.'''

:Do we wish to continue on this downward spiral that civilization is sliding down, or do we wish to TRY to at least slow the degeneration?

:[[User:AnthroSamurai|All hail VLADUZ - the EBAY IMPALER!]] 22:14, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

::Just popping in... The squeaky wheel may get the grease, but you catch more flies with honey than vinegar. And an annoying fly will certainly be the first one swatted. Nice people may be ignored sometimes, but they're also more appreciated. Assholes get noticed, for sure, but they're also loathed and often refused things just to spite their behavior (I've been intentionally difficult with rude customers before because of their attitude). Mozdoc has some really, really, REALLY bad manners, and we shouldn't automatically forgive him because of what "society" has supposedly taught him. His behavior seems more anti-social than social, anyway. [[User:SpazKitty|Spaz Kitty]] 22:51, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

:::I have to agree with [[User:SpazKitty|SpazKitty]] here. For all that Mozdoc claims to be the victim of the world's hatred, he is more often than not the instigator of that ill-will himself. He recently applied to have his ban overturned on SpinDizzy muck, claiming to be reformed. His tolerance lasted until the head wizard (which is Austin Dern, and not me - a fact Mozdoc seems to repeatedly ignore) refused instant reinstatement, and said it would have to be discussed among the wizards. This one temporary set-back provoked the same behaviour of insults, obscenities, and threats that has been his hallmark. Seriously, folks, it's not that he's misunderstood. The suggestion that removal of his name will somehow 'draw the conflict to an end' is something I could only euphemistically call 'optimistic'. --[[User:Findra|Findra]]

::::I am not suggesting automatic forgiveness - Instead, I suggest a means of drawing the conflict to an end instead of punch and counter punch.

::::Contact me on YIM if you have it, SpazzKitty - "aysakiansamurai".

::::[[User:AnthroSamurai|All hail VLADUZ - the EBAY IMPALER!]] 23:31, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

:::::Shorter 'Vladuz': "If we don't remove Mozdoc's real name from his Wikifur page, ''the terrorists win!"'' Overblown histrionics much, V-boy? I say you're a concern troll, and I say the hell with you. And my vote remains the same. [[User:Cubist|Cubist]] 11:14, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

::::::'''So now you resort to name calling and putting words in people's mouths, huh?''' You are one sad individual.

::::::Cubist, you are really and truely showing that you cannot be talked to in a reasonable manner - and only further prove my statement about politeness versus hostility. :(

::::::You ALSO seem to have a problem with misquoting others. I'm willing to bet that you are one of those that think it is "cool" to start trouble for your own amusement. I would advise you NOT to try starting anything with me - my patience is greater than Mozdoc's, but so is my anger. To quote an old TV line "Don't make me angry - you wouldn't '''like''' me when I'm angry".

::::::'''Intolerance breeds intolerance, CUBIST - remember that.'''

::::::And for the record, the reason I am in support of "Vladuz" is quite simply because he showed ebay for what they REALLY are - greedy scum who do not care who get's scammed or hurt, so long as they get another dollar in their pockets.

::::::[[User:AnthroSamurai|All hail VLADUZ - the EBAY IMPALER!]] 17:06, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

:::::::'''CONCERN TROLL'''
:::::::"A concern troll is a false flag pseudonym created by a user whose point of view is opposed to the one that the user's sockpuppet claims to hold. The concern troll posts in web forums devoted to its declared point of view and attempts to sway the group's actions or opinions while claiming to share their goals, but with professed "concerns". The goal is to sow fear, uncertainty and doubt within the group."

:::::::Excuse me a moment... (Falls out of chair laughing).

:::::::Ok, so let me get this straight - because I am TRYING to to get both sides to stand down to some degree, you are claiming that I am Mozdoc using a second account???? Oh good lord, not ANOTHER person like "triple W" :)) Why is it anytime someone doesn't agree, they have to claim that the person they disagree with is a "sock"???? That is really pathetic, Cubist.

:::::::If you are going to act that childish, then I suggest you have your parents supervise you whenever you use the computer.

:::::::[[User:AnthroSamurai|So I am a SOCK?? WHY am I always the last to know these things? :))]] 18:21, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

::::::::I think its a bit of an invasion of privacy to have Mozodc's real name on here for everyone to see. [[User:Hellkat9940|Hellkat9940]] 05:15, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

== Stating the obvious (what most here seem to have missed) ==

It seems that in regards to the removal of Mozdoc's real name, most of the people here are missing what should be very obvious - the fact that the removal of his real name would not be a permanent, "for all time" event.

Just because it is removed, does NOT mean that it could never be added again should he become overly aggressive once more. ALSO, if he DOES straighen out, such information could be further added to his artcile showing that fact. The opposite can also be true.

Ladies and Gentlemen, We have before us a golden opportunity to guide this individual into a better life. Shall we use it, or throw it away?

[[User:AnthroSamurai|So I am a SOCK?? WHY am I always the last to know these things? :))]] 03:40, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

:On second thought, why bother. Nobody really cares anyway - if they did, a lot of what is going wrong in this day and age would not be happening.

:[[User:AnthroSamurai|So I am a SOCK?? WHY am I always the last to know these things? :))]] 03:47, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

== Can we get this over with please? ==

Or is the date going to just keep getting pushed back until theres enough to support an unfavorable result because its July 7th today and thats when the final decision was supposed to take place. [[User:SnowdriftGM|SnowdriftGM]] 14:22, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

:The decision closes on July 7th. Personally, I would have chosen the end of it for all time zones, but Siege is welcome to close the discussion at any time that they feel appropriate.

:If you have to rely on timing to ensure that you have a favourable response to the proposal, it rather brings into question your confidence of public support for the proposal. (I'm not too happy that we had to have a vote on this in the first place, rather than reaching a consensus on the best - any case where a significant proportion of the population feels we're doing the wrong thing is unfortunate.) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 14:36, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

::It doesn't matter. As of this morning July seventh there was a one or two vote advantage allowing for the removal of my name from this damn article. No one added themselves to the persons against it, and no one decided to get off the fence and go for one side or the other. As far as I see it, this is fucking over. I'm getting my name off the article before this drags out another week because some moronic dumbass out there decides to bring up another excuse to drag it out even longer. I don't see why you can't all just agree to allow me to get the exclusion I ASKED for and get my name off of WikiFur ENTIRELY AS I WANT.
::--Mozdoc

:::sez Mozdoc: "As of this morning July seventh there was a one or two vote advantage allowing for the removal of my name from this damn article." No, there was not any such "advantage" -- not unless you know of any votes that were cast since the tally of 3 July 2008. Sure, the person signing themself as "Hellkat9940" offered their opinion on 7 July, but "Hellkat" did not go so far as to say "I vote to remove Mozdoc's real name from his Wikifur page". This leaves anybody but "Hellkat" unable to determine whether "Hellkat"'s position is "It's wrong, and I think it should be corrected," or "It's wrong, but I don't really care if it's corrected." As for the person who signed themself as "So I am a SOCK?? WHY am I always the last to know these things? :))", that's just AnthroSamurai under another pseudonym, and ''his'' (?) vote is already counted in the 3 July tally. So where's that "one or two vote advantage", Mozdoc? [[User:Cubist|Cubist]] 11:19, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

::::'''Gee, it looks like you people are grasping for ANY EXCUSE to leave his name up on the article. Anyone with half a brain can see WHY Mozdoc is so pissed off at all of you - you're going out of your way to fuck with him.'''

::::'''You people are coming DANGEROURSLY CLOSE to making yet another deadly enemy - is that what you want?'''
::::'''And YOU Cubist, you better quit it with the childish shit before you get your ass paddled.'''

::::[[User:AnthroSamurai|So I am a SOCK?? WHY am I always the last to know these things? :))]] 14:45, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

== Vote tally (July 8rd, 2008) ==

''' +6 for redaction''' (Mozdoc, Michichael, Rootdown, HellcatCordelia, SnowdriftGM, AnthroSamurai)

''' =4 neutral''' (GreenReaper, Siege, Spirou, Sine )

''' -6 against redaction''' (Spaz Kitty, Findra, DuncanDaHusky, Ayukawataur, Cubist, KendricksRedtail)

Deadlock. As some other users as suggested, we should put this already to rest (the proper way.) Contacting other registered (valid) users/Sysops by staff could be a solution, but (imho) this matter should be settled today [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 16:08, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

: '''Why bother??? You KNOW that certain people will just dominate the situation and his name won't be removed either way. People are just using this as another means of messing with the guy to set him off.'''

: '''Correct me if I'm wrong, but even YOU have gone ahead and skewed the voting by selectively removing votes.'''

: [[User:AnthroSamurai|So I am a SOCK?? WHY am I always the last to know these things? :))]] 16:37, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

:: please enhance your calm anthrosamurai, lest ye be seen as no more than a troll who looses poorly. such would be bad for your cause.
:: i have remained quiet for a while now, however, i would like to say something now. yes, this should be closed. it has been going on for too long and some of the less mature among the ranks have started to show that immaturity. it will only devolve. however, at the same time, anything other than a verdict in their opinion favor will also be met with the same level of maturity. opinion, not fact, of which i hope i am wrong.
:: i would like to propose two things.
:: 1 - any future votes be restricted to established users. either side can easily find straw votes if we do not use that restriction.
:: 2 - preferably, we allow the admins themselves to make the decision, and no matter what it is, we agree to abide by it without complaint. their site, their decision. which is where it should have remained to begin with.
:: side note- i have edited anthrosamurai post above to provide proper indent format.
:: --[[User:Ayukawataur|Ayukawataur : FurBid-SF Administaur]] 17:20, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

:::'''Here is what is going to happen.'''

:::Mozdoc's name will be removed for a period of one month.
:::If he starts further trouble, it will be re-added PERMANTLY, with no further consideration for it's removal.
:::What ELSE will happen... well, none of you really want to know.

:::[[User:AnthroSamurai|So I am a SOCK?? WHY am I always the last to know these things? :))]] 19:58, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

::::"''[http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Mozdoc&diff=prev&oldid=203895 Correct me if I'm wrong, but even YOU have gone ahead and skewed the voting by selectively removing votes.]''"
::::*Users with the name [[RubberDuck]], [[Kong]], [[Blurrr]], and [[OneEyedWilley]] have not been found making any decisions (pro/con/neutral) about this vote presently. Will re-add their votes if they make their presence and/or wishes known.
::::*A quick inquiring note has been sent to users [[Cypher]], [[User:Hellcat9940|Hellcat9940]], and [[User:Duncan Wulfweards|Duncan Wulfweards]] to confirm that you have their permission to add their votes to the matter at hand.
::::[[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 20:36, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

::::: Uh... I don't think that's your decision to make.
::::: And, I'm going to ask you again: knock it off with the [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:AnthroSamurai&curid=40158&diff=203979&oldid=203919&rcid=212413 name calling] and [[Wikipedia:Incivility|general incivility]]. It is not helping things any. --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 20:18, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

::::::Doug?

::::::'''F--- YOU'''

::::::[[User:AnthroSamurai|So I am a SOCK?? WHY am I always the last to know these things? :))]] 20:20, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

COMPLETE AND TOTAL FUCKING

BULLSHIT.

I WAS AHEAD BY ONE VOTE AT THE MORNING OF JULY SEVENTH.

I WAS SITTING HERE REFRESSING THE PAGE AND THERE WAS NO FURTHER ACTIVITY GENERATED AFTER THAT TIME. THE VOTE WAS FINALIZED, THERE WAS NO MORE SHIT ON THE PAGE. I FUCKING WON AND NOW YOU LITTLE PUSSY FACED SHITFACED MOTHER FUCKING SACKS OF SLOPPY SHIT DECIDE TO GRASP AT WHATEVER MOTHER FUCKING STRAW YOU FUCKING CAN TO FUCK ME IN THE ASS *AGAIN*. FUCKING AGAIN. MOTHER FUCKING AGAIN.

KNOCK THIS FUCKING SHIT OFF! MY NAME IS TO BE REMOVED FROM YOUR FUCKING SITE IMMEDIATELY AS IT WAS AGREED. LAST MINUTE MODIFICATIONS TO THIS FUCKING VOTING ARE OBVIOUSLY SHOWING THAT THIS WEBSITE AND ALL THE MORONIC DICKHEADS THAT RUN IT ARE BIASED AGAINST ME AND WILL DO NOTHING BY FUCK WITH THIS, FUCK WITH THAT, FUCK OVER THERE, FUCK OVER THERE, AND THEN FUCK EVERYTHING UP AFTER ITS SAID AND DONE.

YOU LITTLE DUMBSHIT ASSHOLES HAVE WASTED TWO WEEKS OF TIME AND HAVE GOTTEN ABSOLUTELY NOTHING DONE WHEN IT WAS OBVIOUSLY IN MY FAVOR THAT THIS VOTE WAS GOING AND YOU JUST CAN'T STAND TO FUCKING LOOSE CAN YOU? WELL YOU HAVE. I FUCKING WON YOU LITTLE ASSHOLE PIECES OF SHIT. I FUCKING WON.

I WANT MY NAME REMOVED IMMEDIATELY.

--Mozdoc
:sez mozdoc: "I WAS AHEAD BY ONE VOTE AT THE MORNING OF JULY SEVENTH." 
:Really? There were ''seven'' votes "in your corner" (as it were)? Who is it that cast this elusive seventh vote, please? [[User:Cubist|Cubist]] 08:14, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

=== Closure and explanation ===

There was no consensus between those debating the issue. The name will be '''kept''', for the following reasons:

* Only one person supporting removal is a regular editor of WikiFur with a majority of edits outside this topic.
* Half of those supporting removal had less than 10 edits on WikiFur. All had less than 200.
* Three of those opposing removal have two-year track records and thousands of unrelated edits each.
* A comparison of edit counts gives a ratio of 40 to 1 for those opposing removal, without considering the relation of the edits to this article.

==== Supporting removal ====
*{{user|Mozdoc}}: 70 (100% relating to this topic; concerned party)
*{{user|Michichael}}: 3 (two of which relate to Mozdoc)
*{{user|Rootdown}}: 79
*{{user|Hellkat9940}}: 1 (with two more as anon)
*{{user|SnowdriftGM}}: 8 (first edit was on Talk:Mozdoc)
*{{user|AnthroSamurai}}: 153 (roughly 80% relating to this issue; currently blocked over insults)

'''Total:''' 314 edits

==== Opposing removal ====
*{{user|SpazKitty}}: 6454
*{{user|Findra}}: 22 (first edit was on Talk:Mozdoc)
*{{user|DuncanDaHusky}}: 1232 + talk edits
*{{user|Ayukawataur}}: 197 (about 30% relating to this topic; concerned party)
*{{user|Cubist}}: 37 (only 5 edits on this topic; unrelated prior edits)
*{{user|KendricksRedtail}}: 5666

'''Total:''' 13608 edits

I do not wish to devalue the views of those new to the site - their contributions are welcome and appreciated - but it is clear that those supporting removal do not represent regular editors, nor have they succeeded in swaying the opinion of these editors. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 04:50, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Excuse me, but KendricksRedtail shouldn't even be fucking counted in this because his declaration of opposing removal of my name came SEVEN MINUTES AFTER THE 12:01A DEADLINE THAT WE *ALL* AGREED TO.

This makes it six votes in my favor, FIVE in yours. My name should be removed. Look at the page history and tell me if I'm fucking wrong. I'm not. YOU ARE AND YOU'RE FIXING SHIT TO WORK IN YOUR FAVOR TO JUST CONTINUOUSLY FUCK ME SO THAT I APPEAR TO HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO OBEY YOU'RE FUCKING RULES AND HAVE MY NAME LISTED HERE WHEN I WANT EXCLUSION. How about just admitting fucking defeat and shutting the fuck up that for once YOU FUCKING LOST.

Get the hell over it and remove my name...NOW.

I would also like to add in the fact that there was NEVER ANYTHING SAID that people needed to have a certain number of edits to be fucking counted. If you're going to play this fucking game then I have every right to take your faggot asses to fucking court and demand removal of my existence from here. You're word that this would end, and obviously ended in my favor, breaks an agreement that was established here. Six to five in favor of removal of my name and yet you make up piss poor fucking excuses to keep it here citing stupid bullshit about the people who bothered to stand up against the little prick sacks of shit that run this site not having enough edits?

FUCK YOU. IT DOES NOT AND WILL NOT MATTER HOW MANY EDITS A PERSON HAS. They participated in your fucking sick ass joke of a "community", and all they get is their support for me thrown out just because you think that it takes editing the fucking articles in here to be counted. I'm in agreeance with GreenReaper on this one that you are full of fucking shit and just grasping at whatever straws you can to have your fucking way and it isn't going to fucking happen. I ask that Kendrics be removed from this "voting" process and that my name be excluded from here, AS ASKED.

--Mozdoc
:sez Mozdoc: "Excuse me, but KendricksRedtail shouldn't even be fucking counted in this because his declaration of opposing removal of my name came SEVEN MINUTES AFTER THE 12:01A DEADLINE THAT WE *ALL* AGREED TO." Beggin' yer pardon, Mozdoc, but for some strange reason, I ''think'' [[http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Mozdoc&oldid=139283 a particular edit of Kendricks Redtail's that was timestamped '''2 May 2007''']] just ''might'' be relevant to your argument here... [[User:Cubist|Cubist]] 10:53, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

: It also does matter what placement a person has in the community, as if these particular members registered and started editing - or primarily edit articles relating to this conflict - as the people supporting removal do, then they could quite easily be people who registered primarily to sway the result of the vote and not to become a productive WikiFur member. They may have even been pressured into showing support without knowing the proper context of the debate. Add on to this that they don't even contribute enough to be considered representative of the community at large, and it's a very one sided battlefield here. {{:User:Robomilk/sig}} 17:08, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

== UNJUST & DISHONORABLE ACTS ==

I think all wikifur users, and the fandom in general, should be made aware of the tactics and dirty tricks the site dictat - excuse me, ADMINISTRATORS - employ to get their way.

'''GREENREAPER''' - changing voting policy after the fact to support the underlings of his dictatorship.

There was no consensus between those debating the issue. The name will be kept, '''because only one of those supporting its removal is an unrelated party and a regular editor of WikiFur with a majority of their edits outside of this topic,''' as opposed to four of those opposing its removal.
Half of those supporting removal had less than 10 edits on WikiFur. Of those who had more, none had more than 200 edits, and only one was not mainly or solely involved with this situation.
Conversely, '''three of those opposing removal are WikiFur administrators with two-year track records and thousands of unrelated edits,''' and one other editor also appears otherwise uninvolved with this conflict.
(These policies WERE NOT stated until AFTER voting was finished, and were used simply to gain an unfair advantage in favor of what he and his fellow controlers wanted.)

@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

'''SPIROU''' - removal of votes in favor of redaction, then claiming that he hadn't seen the votes and needed to "contact them to find out".

'''I voted to have his name removed because the recent continuation of this whole facade is becoming unreasonably reaching on the borderline of internet harasment on Mozdoc sake.''' Yes he may of said some things that were regrettable and I understand that you wish to protect users, but to hold someones real life information against their wishes is wrong and most probably illegal. There are websites like Fchan has a DNP list of those who wish not to have their information posted against their wishes.. Moz has told me that he only wants this page to be taken down and that he can move on from this ridiculousness. I already gave him advice to follow if this does continue on beyond Anthrocon.. I wish you luck Moz..
- Dunc (aka Duncan Wulfweards) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.166.142.24 (talk • contribs) 00:38 and 00:47, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

'''I think its a bit of an invasion of privacy to have Mozodc's real name on here''' for everyone to see. Hellkat9940 05:15, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

A quick inquiring note has been sent to users Hellcat9940, and Duncan Wulfweards '''to confirm that you have their permission to add their votes''' to the matter at hand. Spirou 20:36, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
(Duncan Wulfweards made it clear BEYOND ALL DOUBT that he was voting.... for redaction - Yet Spirou deleted his vote ANYWAY)

@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

CUBIST - General harrassment & support of dishonest actions by Spirou(re: vote deletion)

Shorter 'Vladuz': "If we don't remove Mozdoc's real name from his Wikifur page, the terrorists win!" Overblown histrionics much, V-boy? I say you're a concern troll, and I say the hell with you. And my vote remains the same. Cubist 11:14, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

sez mozdoc: "I WAS AHEAD BY ONE VOTE AT THE MORNING OF JULY SEVENTH."
Really? There were seven votes "in your corner" (as it were)? Who is it that cast this elusive seventh vote, please? Cubist 08:14, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

sez Mozdoc: "Excuse me, but KendricksRedtail shouldn't even be fucking counted in this because his declaration of opposing removal of my name came SEVEN MINUTES AFTER THE 12:01A DEADLINE THAT WE *ALL* AGREED TO." Beggin' yer pardon, Mozdoc, but for some strange reason, I think [a particular edit of Kendricks Redtail's that was timestamped 2 May 2007] just might be relevant to your argument here... Cubist 10:53, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
(This voting was not in effect on May 2nd, '''2007''', so how can any such edit count towards offsetting Kendrick's voting AFTER the deadline?)

As for my not editing elsewhere, GREENREAPER conveniently leaves out certain facts in his desperate attempt to justify his dishonest and cowardly tactics.

As the situation now stands, wikifur itself is just as damaging to the reputation of the fandom as the perverts are.

[[Special:Contributions/75.8.39.7|75.8.39.7]] 21:44, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

'''SHALL WE SHOOT-DOWN ANOTHER OF GREENREAPER'S LIES???'''

AS USER "AnthroSamurai"

20:44, 8 July 2008 (hist) (diff) User talk:AnthroSamurai‎ (→Threats do not belong on WikiFur)

20:20, 8 July 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Mozdoc‎ (→Vote tally (July 8rd, 2008))

20:13, 8 July 2008 (hist) (diff) User talk:Dmuth‎ (→IM contact) (top)

20:11, 8 July 2008 (hist) (diff) User talk:AnthroSamurai‎ (→IM and flames from this user)

19:58, 8 July 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Mozdoc‎ (→Vote tally (July 8rd, 2008))

16:37, 8 July 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Mozdoc‎ (→Vote tally (July 8rd, 2008))

16:33, 8 July 2008 (hist) (diff) User talk:AnthroSamurai‎ (→Threats do not belong on WikiFur)

16:33, 8 July 2008 (hist) (diff) User:Dmuth‎ (Replacing page with 'Hey moron, I had removed it before you even finished sending the message. NOW, if you want to continue to garbage.... Well, let's just say you'll find out how evil I really a...')

15:32, 8 July 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Mozdoc
‎
15:05, 8 July 2008 (hist) (diff) User:AnthroSamurai‎ (Removing all content from page)

14:58, 8 July 2008 (hist) (diff) User talk:AnthroSamurai‎ (→Threats do not belong on WikiFur)

14:55, 8 July 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Mozdoc‎ (→Can we get this over with please?: YOU PEOPLE AREN')

14:46, 8 July 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Mozdoc‎ (→Can we get this over with please?)

14:45, 8 July 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Mozdoc‎ (→Can we get this over with please?)

02:39, 8 July 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Mozdoc‎ (→Can we get this over with please?)

02:38, 8 July 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Mozdoc‎ (→Vote Tally, July 7th 2008 2130hrs)

02:29, 8 July 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Mozdoc‎ (→Vote Tally, July 8th 2008 2130hrs: new section)

02:28, 8 July 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Mozdoc‎ (Undo revision 203837 by KendricksRedtail (talk))

03:47, 7 July 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Mozdoc‎ (→Stating the obvious (what most here seem to have missed))

03:40, 7 July 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Mozdoc‎ (→Stating the obvious (what most here seem to have missed): new section)

02:10, 7 July 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Mozdoc‎ (→Voting phase: Move Findra's posts to keep things in chronological order - Findra, PLEASE don't post in the middle like that, it makes it too hard for people to read new posts.)

20:03, 5 July 2008 (hist) (diff) User talk:AnthroSamurai‎ (→Dispute with Cubist)

18:55, 5 July 2008 (hist) (diff) User talk:GreenReaper‎ (→What is wrong with Cubist????: DAMNIT - keep forgeting to sign the posts. :)))

18:53, 5 July 2008 (hist) (diff) User talk:GreenReaper‎ (→What is wrong with Cubist????)

18:52, 5 July 2008 (hist) (diff) User talk:AnthroSamurai‎ (→Dispute with Cubist)

18:42, 5 July 2008 (hist) (diff) User:AnthroSamurai‎

18:21, 5 July 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Mozdoc‎ (→Voting phase)

18:18, 5 July 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Mozdoc‎ (→Voting phase)

18:16, 5 July 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Mozdoc‎ (→Voting phase)

18:14, 5 July 2008 (hist) (diff) User talk:GreenReaper‎ (→What is wrong with Cubist????)

18:06, 5 July 2008 (hist) (diff) User talk:GreenReaper‎ (→What is wrong with Cubist????)

17:32, 5 July 2008 (hist) (diff) User talk:GreenReaper‎ (→What is wrong with Cubist????)

17:31, 5 July 2008 (hist) (diff) User talk:GreenReaper‎ (→What is wrong with Cubist????: new section)

17:06, 5 July 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Mozdoc‎ (→Voting phase)

17:05, 5 July 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Mozdoc‎ (→Voting phase)

00:12, 5 July 2008 (hist) (diff) User talk:Spaz Kitty‎ (→Message 412) (top)

00:12, 5 July 2008 (hist) (diff) User talk:Spaz Kitty‎

23:31, 4 July 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Mozdoc‎ (→Voting phase)

22:17, 4 July 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Mozdoc‎ (→Voting phase)

22:14, 4 July 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Mozdoc‎ (→Voting phase)

'''11:46, 4 July 2008 (hist) (diff) User:AnthroSamurai‎ (→Mother Nature's a pain in the a**)'''
'''11:40, 4 July 2008 (hist) (diff) User:AnthroSamurai‎ (→Mother Nature's a pain in the a**) '''
11:37, 4 July 2008 (hist) (diff) User:AnthroSamurai‎

'''00:12, 3 July 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:MySpace‎ (Created page with 'Ok, why are there entries for myspace, facebook, and other NON-FURRY RELATED sites on wikifur???????? [[Special:Contributions/75.8.39.7|75.8.39.7]] 00:17, 13 July 2008 (UTC)')'''

'''04:14, 30 June 2008 (hist) (diff) User talk:Siege‎ (→Life immitates art (lol): new section)'''

03:56, 30 June 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Mozdoc‎ (→Voting phase)

14:23, 29 June 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Mozdoc‎ (→Voting phase)

14:22, 29 June 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Mozdoc‎ (→Voting phase)

14:11, 29 June 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Mozdoc‎ (→Voting phase)

10:03, 29 June 2008 (hist) (diff) m Mozdoc‎

09:47, 29 June 2008 (hist) (diff) Mozdoc‎ ((best way to laugh is to make others laugh))

22:48, 27 June 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Mozdoc‎ (→Voting phase)

10:46, 25 June 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Mozdoc‎ (→Removal of real name?)

22:38, 6 June 2008 (hist) (diff) User talk:69.46.17.168‎ (Created page with '===lying as you did goes against what this country was founded on=== I do not know why you would edit my userpage to add such lies, and personally I do not care. If you have a ...') (top)

'''22:32, 6 June 2008 (hist) (diff) User talk:Mwalimu‎ (→Reverting vandalism: new section) (top) '''

02:40, 5 June 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Mozdoc‎ (→Banned again?)

'''04:59, 4 June 2008 (hist) (diff) Bigfoot‎ '''

'''04:21, 4 June 2008 (hist) (diff) Bigfoot‎ (Add photo)'''

'''04:04, 4 June 2008 (hist) (diff) Bigfoot‎'''

02:57, 4 June 2008 (hist) (diff) User:AnthroSamurai‎

02:28, 4 June 2008 (hist) (diff) User:AnthroSamurai‎ (Undo revision 197085 by AnthroSamurai (talk))

23:14, 3 June 2008 (hist) (diff) User talk:Asylumfoxy714‎ (→Anons aren't so anon.: new section)

15:19, 3 June 2008 (hist) (diff) User talk:Siege‎ (→Request: new section)

14:52, 3 June 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Mozdoc‎ (→Banned again?: new section)

'''00:02, 28 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Bigfoot‎ (Hey, come on! He's more furry than all of us combined! lol) '''

23:48, 27 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Straitfox‎ (→Deletion)

23:38, 27 May 2008 (hist) (diff) User talk:Siege‎ (→Romanian & the IM: new section)

23:34, 27 May 2008 (hist) (diff) User talk:Siege‎ (→Didn't do it)

'''23:29, 27 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Ayukawataur‎ (→Name translation: Deleted post - Rat's edite of my post made the whole thing pointless :() (top)'''

23:25, 27 May 2008 (hist) (diff) User talk:Rat‎ (→Selective enforcement)

'''21:04, 27 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Ayukawataur‎ (→Name translation)'''

19:04, 27 May 2008 (hist) (diff) User talk:Spaz Kitty‎ (→Self defense)

18:58, 27 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Mozdoc‎ (→Ayukawa goading Mozdoc into further aggression?: clarify)

17:36, 27 May 2008 (hist) (diff) User talk:AnthroSamurai‎ (→Removal of contributions)

17:27, 27 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Mozdoc‎ (→Ayukawa goading Mozdoc into further aggression?)

12:08, 27 May 2008 (hist) (diff) User talk:AnthroSamurai‎ (→Removal of contributions)

11:37, 27 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Ayukawataur‎ (→Name translation)

12:56, 26 May 2008 (hist) (diff) User talk:Rat‎ (→Selective enforcement: new section)

12:53, 26 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Ayukawataur‎ (Undo revision 197345 by Brushwell Clinton (talk))

12:53, 26 May 2008 (hist) (diff) User talk:Brushwell Clinton‎ (→Don't push it lad)

11:19, 26 May 2008 (hist) (diff) User talk:Dmuth‎ (→Is there any proof?: new section)

11:02, 26 May 2008 (hist) (diff) User talk:Spaz Kitty‎ (→If you only had a brain :)): new section)

10:58, 26 May 2008 (hist) (diff) User talk:AnthroSamurai‎ (→Removal of contributions)

10:43, 26 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Ayukawataur‎

19:32, 24 May 2008 (hist) (diff) User talk:AnthroSamurai‎ (→Removal of contributions)

19:25, 24 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Tales from the Reservation‎ (Undo revision 197131 by Brushwell Clinton (talk))

17:02, 24 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Tabitha (story)‎ (Undo revision 197095 by Brushwell Clinton (talk))

16:59, 24 May 2008 (hist) (diff) User talk:AnthroSamurai‎ (→Removal of contributions)

16:50, 24 May 2008 (hist) (diff) User talk:Brushwell Clinton‎ (→Don't push it lad: new section)

16:46, 24 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Tales from the Reservation‎ (Undo revision 197094 by Brushwell Clinton (talk)

'''14:35, 24 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Secret Sabrina Society‎'''

14:34, 24 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Sabrina Online: The Story‎ (Undo revision 195798 by AnthroSamurai (talk))

14:32, 24 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Tabitha (story)‎ (Undo revision 196332 by AnthroSamurai (talk))

14:31, 24 May 2008 (hist) (diff) User:AnthroSamurai‎

14:28, 24 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Tales from the Reservation‎ (I addeth, I taketh away)

14:26, 24 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Kacey Miyagami‎ (Undo revision 197077 by AnthroSamurai (talk))

13:55, 24 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Kacey Miyagami‎ (Undo revision 197051 by Ayukawataur - It leads to the same place, AYUKA.)

05:44, 23 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Kacey Miyagami‎ (→Legal issues: There is no need for TWO links to the same place.)

23:23, 21 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Kacey Miyagami‎ (→Conflict of interest) (top)

23:19, 21 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Kacey Miyagami‎ (→Conflict of interest)

'''22:56, 21 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Ayukawataur‎ (→HE or SHE?)'''

05:04, 21 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Kacey Miyagami‎ (→Conflict of interest)

05:01, 21 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Kacey Miyagami‎ (→Conflict of interest)

'''04:38, 21 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Ayukawataur‎ (→HE or SHE?) '''

'''07:07, 20 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Tabitha (story)‎ (Upgrade tag to "NOVEL" - Story is at 56,947 words)'''

'''07:03, 20 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Tabitha (story)‎ (Created page with '===Technically, no longer a "short story" === I just did a word count on all 13 chapters of this story - and it's broken out of the "short story" category.... at precicely 56,9...') (top) '''

'''06:51, 20 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Tales from the Reservation‎ (Whoever considers 40,000 words to be a short story never had to type that many. :))) '''

'''03:19, 20 May 2008 (hist) (diff) User talk:AnthroSamurai‎ (→Removed "short story" tag)'''

'''03:17, 20 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Tales from the Reservation‎ '''

'''03:16, 20 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Tales from the Reservation‎ '''

'''20:05, 19 May 2008 (hist) (diff) User talk:Mwalimu‎ (→Removed "short story" tag: new section)'''

'''19:53, 19 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Tales from the Reservation‎ (Undo revision 195870 by Mwalimu (talk))'''

01:41, 18 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Mozdoc‎ (→Mozdoc's love notes via IM)
'''13:19, 17 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Sabrina‎ (top)'''

'''11:47, 17 May 2008 (hist) (diff) User:AnthroSamurai‎ '''

'''11:47, 17 May 2008 (hist) (diff) User talk:75.7.254.145‎ (top) '''

'''15:33, 16 May 2008 (hist) (diff) User talk:Dmuth‎ (→How about THIS one. :P)'''

'''15:22, 16 May 2008 (hist) (diff) User talk:Dmuth‎ (→How about THIS one. :P: new section)'''

'''10:02, 16 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Ayukawataur‎ (→HE or SHE?)'''

'''09:49, 16 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Ayukawataur‎ (→HE or SHE?)'''

'''09:43, 16 May 2008 (hist) (diff) User:AnthroSamurai‎'''

'''09:40, 16 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Image:Lag650.GIF‎ (Saw this particular lag box '''on 05/16/08 at 0438... What can I say, I get goofy at that hour of the morning. :))) (top)'''

'''08:16, 16 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Sabrina Online: The Story‎ (Update chapter #/date)'''

'''08:11, 16 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Secret Sabrina Society‎ (Created page with 'An "underground" fan group of Eric W. Schwartz's skunkette character Sabrina, alleged to have been involved with pornagraphic, or yiff style artwork of the character.')'''

'''01:19, 16 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Ayukawataur‎ (→HE or SHE?) '''

01:02, 16 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Kacey Miyagami‎ (→Conflict of interest)

23:26, 15 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Kacey Miyagami‎ (→Legal issues)

23:23, 15 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Kacey Miyagami‎ (→Conflict of interest)

'''23:17, 15 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Ayukawataur‎ (→HE or SHE?)'''

'''23:16, 15 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Ayukawataur‎ (→HE or SHE?: new section)'''

18:20, 13 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Kacey Miyagami‎ (→Legal Issues)

14:23, 13 May 2008 (hist) (diff) User talk:Dmuth‎ (→deletions)

14:01, 13 May 2008 (hist) (diff) User talk:Dmuth‎ (→deletions: new section)

12:55, 13 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Kacey Miyagami‎ (→Confilct of interest)

12:53, 13 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Kacey Miyagami‎ (→Confilct of interest)

12:05, 13 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Kacey Miyagami‎ (→Confilct of interest)

12:01, 13 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Kacey Miyagami‎ (→Confilct of interest: new section)

11:50, 13 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Kacey Miyagami‎ (→Legal issues)

11:48, 13 May 2008 (hist) (diff) m Kacey Miyagami‎ (→Legal issues: remove some info added by Ayukawataur - see talk pg)

'''09:53, 13 May 2008 (hist) (diff) User:AnthroSamurai‎ '''

'''09:43, 13 May 2008 (hist) (diff) User:AnthroSamurai‎ '''

09:23, 13 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Mozdoc‎ (→Exclusion redux)

09:22, 13 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Mozdoc‎ (→Exclusion redux: Sorry, lol - couldn't resist (read before reverting please - you'll laugh))

'''08:09, 13 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Tales from the Reservation‎ (top)'''

'''08:02, 13 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Tales from the Reservation‎ '''

07:49, 13 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Mozdoc‎ (→Exclusion redux)

06:07, 13 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Mozdoc‎ (→Exclusion redux)

'''05:32, 13 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Tales from the Reservation‎'''

'''05:30, 13 May 2008 (hist) (diff) User:AnthroSamurai‎ '''

'''05:22, 13 May 2008 (hist) (diff) User talk:75.7.254.145‎ '''

'''05:19, 13 May 2008 (hist) (diff) User talk:75.7.254.145‎'''

'''05:10, 13 May 2008 (hist) (diff) User:AnthroSamurai‎'''

AS USER 75.7.254.145‎

02:37, 13 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Mozdoc‎ (→Exclusion)

11:17, 12 May 2008 (hist) (diff) User talk:Spaz Kitty‎

'''04:11, 12 May 2008 (hist) (diff) The American Journal of Anthropomorphics‎ (Fix screw-up.) '''

'''04:09, 12 May 2008 (hist) (diff) The American Journal of Anthropomorphics‎ (Add info on issues) '''

'''03:48, 12 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Darrell Benvenuto‎ (top) '''

'''03:39, 12 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Darrell Benvenuto‎ (top) '''

'''03:31, 12 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Tales from the Reservation‎'''

'''03:15, 12 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Tales from the Reservation'''
‎
'''03:12, 12 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Tales from the Reservation‎'''

'''12:20, 10 May 2008 (hist) (diff) User talk:75.7.254.145‎ '''

'''08:36, 10 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Tales from the Reservation‎'''

'''06:49, 10 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Tales from the Reservation‎'''

'''06:40, 10 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Tales from the Reservation'''
‎

'''06:39, 10 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Tales from the Reservation‎ '''

'''06:09, 10 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Tales from the Reservation‎ (→External Links) '''

'''05:58, 10 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Tales from the Reservation‎ (→External Links) '''

'''05:56, 10 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Tales from the Reservation‎ (Author's email added (Insert evil grin here))'''

'''16:32, 9 May 2008 (hist) (diff) Jason Dahlen‎ (→External links: Added his newest site) (top)'''

SO, as anyone other than the flunkies can see, I did not come to this sight solely for Mozdoc - I did not even know who he was before all of this. Nor are my posts solely in defense of Mozdoc - as I have threatened to conk his and Ayuka's (along with anyone else) heads together.

And Limey? Next time you want to make claims about me, at least do your homework first ;)

[[Special:Contributions/75.8.39.7|75.8.39.7]] 00:17, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

:I stand by my statement - roughly 80% of your edits relate to this case. My point was not that you were a supporter as Mozdoc, nor that you came to this site at his bidding - merely that you do not have the same editing experience as those with opposing views, and so in a tiebreaker situation, the views of more experienced editors should prevail. I discounted Findra's opinion for the same reason, and their view was opposed to yours. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 00:35, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

'''you do not have the same editing experience as those with opposing views'''

Look junior, The fact that you keep going on about "EDITING EXPERIENCE" while shoving aside ACTUAL and PRACTICAL experience, and insisting on lying when you have been caught red-handed (Your own comments prove such) makes you look like a total buffoon.

I would suggest you correct your dishonesty.... but you and I both know that you won't - you would rather lie, manipulate, change rules, and generally screw with people. The only way you will change is if you get your ass kicked by the fandom - and to that end I have already emailed and/or otherwise posted the above over 250 times to various people, groups, and sites.

[[Special:Contributions/75.8.39.7|75.8.39.7]]

I vote for removing his name, The longer we all drag this on, the longer it will go on. I think mozdoc will go away if we just leave him alone.
[[user:germanshepherd|germanshepherd]]

Talk:Mozdoc

2008-07-13T03:26:09Z

Germanshepherd:

Tigrekat

2007-07-11T05:18:52Z

Germanshepherd:

TigreKat is a Southern California [[furry]]. She is a regular at the [[Prancing Skiltaire]].

{{person-stub}}

[[Category:People]]
[[Category:California]]

Margo Alenikov

2007-07-11T05:18:06Z

Germanshepherd:

User has requested that the article be moved to her fur-name rather than her real name due to stalking concerns.

Jwoulf

2007-06-11T00:24:08Z

Germanshepherd: Fixed external links; jwoulf.net and jwoulf's den are back online.

Jwoulf

2007-06-01T06:25:36Z

Germanshepherd: Clairified a few things, also fixed "mini-gun" spelling error. "Minigun" is correct terminology, as it refers to the "G.E. M-134 Minigun"

Jwoulf

2007-06-01T06:16:17Z

Germanshepherd:

Jwoulf

2007-05-29T21:23:26Z

Germanshepherd: /* SL and Other Online Gaming */

User:Germanshepherd

2007-05-29T21:19:07Z

Germanshepherd: New page: I am jwoulf, 'nuff said. YIP!

I am [[jwoulf]], 'nuff said.

YIP!

Jwoulf

2007-05-29T21:18:18Z

Germanshepherd:

Jwoulf

2007-05-29T21:08:12Z

Germanshepherd: /* Occupation and hobbies */

Jwoulf

2007-05-29T21:06:54Z

Germanshepherd:

Jwoulf

2006-07-22T09:22:45Z

Germanshepherd: /* Occupation and Hobbies */

Jwoulf

2006-07-22T09:19:37Z

Germanshepherd: /* Occupation and Hobbies */

Jwoulf

2006-07-22T09:18:39Z

Germanshepherd: /* A Very Odd Wolf */

Jwoulf

2006-07-22T09:18:11Z

Germanshepherd: /* Occupation and Hobbies */

Jwoulf

2006-07-22T09:16:01Z

Germanshepherd: /* Second Life */

Jwoulf

2006-07-22T09:13:46Z

Germanshepherd:

Jwoulf

2006-07-22T09:11:23Z

Germanshepherd: /* A Very Odd Wolf */

Jwoulf

2006-07-22T09:08:27Z

Germanshepherd: