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Talk:Wolfhome

2006-08-09T05:30:15Z

FoxGrin: /* A new draft? */

I don't know much about Wolfhome, but some of the most recent additions sounded biased enough to justify the NPOV template. If anyone more familiar with the subject can shed some light on it, it would be appreciated. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 17:48, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

I dunno. I was there and saw exactly what went on. This, (while a little harsh and has since been toned down) is a fair representation of what has been going on.
17.29, 10 May 2006

This entire "article" is simply ridiculous.

== A new draft? ==

I find that article to be severely lacking. There is no mention the system crash - which was the ACTUAL cause of WH's original long-term pause between Gre7g and Kerfuffle. Not to mention it sounds pretty...sarcastic about the other situation: very biased, definitely, whoever wrote it. It doesn't even contain very much information. This is a short draft, nothing I would call near finished, though please feel free to work with it, but I would re-write it something like this:

"WolfHome is(was) a graphical chat interface that is similar to Furcadia, but is one that focuses purely on the conversation and connection aspect of a "chatroom" and has traditionally strongly discouraged role-playing.

The chat was released on Halloween of 1999. Originally, the programming was done by Gre7g and the artwork was all done by Goldenwolf. For a time it was quite popular, with the expressive wolf poses and scenery and fun interactions. WH's ability to attract artists of fame, such as Kyoht, Yelth, and others, has also traditionally been a huge attraction within the were community, and indeed it has almost "launched" more than one now-famous artists. As its name suggests, it was based on the theme of wolven-therians, with a pack-based ranking system (Alpha, Beta, etc.) though the site eventually also included other wild canines and even large wild felines. As a free site the popularity grew so much that Gre7g was forced to turn WolfHome into a pay-based chat in order for it to support its own costs and the number of users fell drastically.

Tragically, the server suffered a serious blow in the fall of 2004 while Gre7g was away on vacation, and almost all of the information proved irretrievable. Because of many factors, some of which could have been the environment within the admin team becoming increasingly more hostile and disfunctional, coupled with Gre7g's lack of continued interest in the site, not to mention the daunting task of re-creating the entire chat, WolfHome was allowed to remain down and users were refunded their remaining balances.

A user named Kerfuffle appeared several months later in the spring of 2005, approached the administrators of the then-dead site, and proved himself to be a very capable programmer who brought with him the hope of resurrecting WolfHome. Indeed he did, and so took over the rights and recreated the chat, albeit in the form of a downloadable client as opposed to the web-interface it had been in the past. Wolfhome's popularity swiftly returned. Unfortunately, the then team of administrators showed a distinct inability to work together coherently, with different factions forming within the team and different theories being followed through on how the chat should be run and moderated. Because of his disgust with the never-ending conflict, Kerfuffle decided to take leave of WH in the fall of 2005, saying he would "keep an eye" on his project and leaving a warning that if things didn't start to work, he would disconnect WolfHome for good.

In February of 2006, one of the Wolfhome admins, FoxGrin, was demoted by majority vote of the admin team, for various reasons that have remained unclear and suspect even to this point in time. At that time, tensions between the admins themselves were high, and continual fighting over power between the users and admins put the admins and the userbase at odds with eachother. At this point Kerfuffle returned swiftly and immediately closed the site down. Both strongly deny there ever being a serioues relationship more than friends between the two, and Kerfuffle personally refuted rumors that FoxGrin's demotion was the direct cause of his unplugging WH. He said that it was actually "the last straw" in a string of greivances and conflicts. WolfHome has remained shut down since then.

Kerfuffle then disappeared from WH and seemingly the internet entirely, leaving behind only a faint glimmer of hope: that if the remaining patrons of the site could work together to form a plan that would ensure peace on WolfHome and be agreeable to the majority of people, he would turn it back on. A shrinking group of former members have been working hard ever since on this very goal. The fandom is currently watching and waiting to see how events will unfold. This is current up through early August of 2006. Wolfhome is still owned by Kerfluffle.

On a semi-related note, a small group headed by site owner Hadey and programmer LinuxDewd, both former admins of the old WH, have thrown in together and are creating "Wolfhome Classic". Not billed as competition to Kerfuffle's WolfHome, but rather a return to an older method of running the site and a "return to roots". This project is currently in Alpha testing, with a public Beta testing date not yet officially set."

It's rough, yeah. But it has the basics I'll bet.

Talk:Wolfhome

2006-08-09T05:23:50Z

FoxGrin: A new draft?

I don't know much about Wolfhome, but some of the most recent additions sounded biased enough to justify the NPOV template. If anyone more familiar with the subject can shed some light on it, it would be appreciated. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 17:48, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

I dunno. I was there and saw exactly what went on. This, (while a little harsh and has since been toned down) is a fair representation of what has been going on.
17.29, 10 May 2006

This entire "article" is simply ridiculous.

== A new draft? ==

I find that article to be severely lacking. There is no mention the system crash - which was the ACTUAL cause of WH's original long-term pause between Gre7g and Kerfuffle. Not to mention it sounds pretty...sarcastic about the other situation: very biased, definitely, whoever wrote it. It doesn't even contain very much information. This is a short draft, nothing I would call near finished, though please feel free to work with it, but I would re-write it something like this:

"WolfHome is(was) a graphical chat interface that is similar to Furcadia, but is one that focuses purely on the conversation and connection aspect of a "chatroom" and has traditionally strongly discouraged role-playing.

The chat was released on Halloween of 1999. Originally, the programming was done by Gre7g and the artwork was all done by Goldenwolf. For a time it was quite popular, with the expressive wolf poses and scenery and fun interactions. WH's ability to attract artists of fame, such as Kyoht, Yelth, and others, has also traditionally been a huge attraction within the were community, and indeed it has almost "launched" more than one now-famous artists. As its name suggests, it was based on the theme of wolven-therians, with a pack-based ranking system (Alpha, Beta, etc.) though the site eventually also included other wild canines and even large wild felines. As a free site the popularity grew so much that Gre7g was forced to turn WolfHome into a pay-based chat in order for it to support its own costs and the number of users fell drastically.

Tragically, the server suffered a serious blow in the fall of 2004 while Gre7g was away on vacation, and almost all of the information proved irretrievable. Because of many factors, some of which could have been the environment within the admin team becoming increasingly more hostile and disfunctional, coupled with Gre7g's lack of continued interest in the site, not to mention the daunting task of re-creating the entire chat, WolfHome was allowed to remain down and users were refunded their remaining balances.

A user named Kerfuffle appeared several months later in the spring of 2005, approached the administrators of the then-dead site, and proved himself to be a very capable programmer who brought with him the hope of resurrecting WolfHome. Indeed he did, and so took over the rights and recreated the chat, albeit in the form of a downloadable client as opposed to the web-interface it had been in the past. Wolfhome's popularity swiftly returned. Unfortunately, the then team of administrators showed a distinct inability to work together coherently, with different factions forming within the team and different theories being followed through on how the chat should be run and moderated. Because of his disgust with the never-ending conflict, Kerfuffle decided to take leave of WH in the fall of 2005, saying he would "keep an eye" on his project and leaving a warning that if things didn't start to work, he would disconnect WolfHome for good.

In February of 2006, one of the Wolfhome admins, FoxGrin, was demoted by the rest of the admin team, for various reasons that have remained unclear and suspect even to this point in time. At that time, tensions between the admins themselves were high, and continual fighting over power between the users and admins put the admins and the userbase at odds with eachother. At this point Kerfuffle returned swiftly and immediately closed the site down. Both strongly deny there ever being a serioues relationship more than friends between the two, and Kerfuffle personally refuted rumors that FoxGrin's demotion was the direct cause of his unplugging WH. He said that it was actually "the last straw" in a string of greivances and conflicts. WolfHome has remained shut down since then.

Kerfuffle then disappeared from WH and seemingly the internet entirely, leaving behind only a faint glimmer of hope: that if the remaining patrons of the site could work together to form a plan that would ensure peace on WolfHome and be agreeable to the majority of people, he would turn it back on. A shrinking group of former members have been working hard ever since on this very goal. The fandom is currently watching and waiting to see how events will unfold. This is current up through early August of 2006. Wolfhome is still owned by Kerfluffle.

On a semi-related note, a small group headed by site owner Hadey and programmer LinuxDewd, both former admins of the old WH, have thrown in together and are creating "Wolfhome Classic". Not billed as competition to Kerfuffle's WolfHome, but rather a return to an older method of running the site and a "return to roots". This project is currently in Alpha testing, with a public Beta testing date not yet officially set."

It's rough, yeah. But it has the basics I'll bet.