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User:Eurodex

2008-03-05T01:03:58Z

Eurodex: Redirecting to User:NuclearVacuum

#REDIRECT [[User:NuclearVacuum]]

User talk:Rat

2008-03-03T22:16:16Z

Eurodex: /* Name? */ new section

:''Don't copy conversations from other pages to here. I will watch other pages if I add to their conversation.''

Hi there, Rat - welcome to WikiFur! Thanks for your contributions so far - let me know on my [[User talk:GreenReaper|user talk page]] if you need any [[help]] not already provided. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 07:28, 27 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==hey==
i have an account, just forgot to login, whoops. --[[User:Chomperz|Chomperz]] 02:04, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

== Napping Cat's Dream ==

Hi, Rat...it's definitely Psychedelic '''A'''vatar, both capitalized. (My fuzzy alter-ego happens to be #326. :) [[User:CarlFox|Carl Fox]] 01:35, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Misinformation ==

I think [[User:24.20.194.136]] is adding misinformation (all the edits about North Star Kung Fu). -- [[User:Rat|Rat]] 09:51, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Yes, it does seem to have been a little odd. Someone trying to perpetuate an in-joke, I believe. Thanks for taking action. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 17:10, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Whoops . . . ==

Sorry! We can always make a [[Rat (notthatperson)]] if you want. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 04:19, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== New tabs ==

Welcome to [[WikiFur:Administrators]]! I noticed your recent reverts, and I thought it might be best to let you deal with that sort of thing yourself, if needed. You may notice a few new tabs along the top, and some other changes around the site in relation to user blocking, rollbacks and the like. I suggest you look over [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Administrators|this page]] if you're not familiar with how to use them. Hopefully you won't need them much, but they're there for when you do. Use them wisely! :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 05:43, 25 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== "include" ==

Thanks for catching that. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 04:29, 8 Nov 2005 (UTC)

== 10k edits ==

Thanks for giving your attention to the wiki - I'd like to recommend the 'preview' button, however. -- [[User:Siege|Siege]] 15:11, 25 Nov 2005 (UTC)

== Recent vandal ==

Thanks for catching that one. In that sort of situation (multiple page blanking or simple vandalism) you can add "&bot=1" to the URL of the user's contribution page and then reload the page with that URL. This will make it so that the contributions effectively disappear on recent changes when you roll them back (unless you look for them by turning bot actions on) and the only thing that appears is the ban. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 16:38, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

In response to Rat: Yes, there wasn't much of a point to it, more of a dare and being an on the whim action. I'm sure you can guess ''why'' it was done, with his background, though I agree it was rude and I apologize. --Nytwolf

== Recent vandal ==

Thanks for helping out with that spate of vandalism. Not sure what was up with that. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 22:40, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

==Article Illustrations ==

Hello. I noticed that you requested artists to create art to add to WikiFur articles. I wish to say that if you wish, you may let me know if there are any articles you think need art, and I will be glad to draw something for them. Also, if I do happen to see any unillustrated articles, may I notify you to show whether what I add is acceptable? I am not sure of what the guidelines are for art at this time; however, so I shall need to find that out. -- {{UT|Seamora}} 10:35, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

:Here are some suggestions. This is not an exclusive list, and if you find another article where you can contribute art that meets the requirements I set out are [[User:Rat]], that is still good.
:* [[Furry art]]
:* [[Chakat]]
:* [[Fox]]
:* <strike>[[Cheetah]]</strike>

:Yes, you may use my talk page to talk about your proposals for art.

:--[[User:Rat|Rat]] 18:27, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Could you expand on "Must be released under a license acceptable to the WikiFur community."? Is "Artist approves use of this image on WikiFur" such a license, for example? I was thinking we could do with such a tag, with a number of people uploading their own art but not explicitly releasing it in some other fashion. -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 23:36, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

:That's a good question, and maybe we should have community input over what licenses are acceptable. The main thing is that since I'm collecting these images for WikiFur, is that WikiFur's permission to use them is explicit, not implicit. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 00:16, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

::Uploading them to WikiFur seems pretty explicit permission to me. <tt>;)</tt> -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 00:19, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

:::I think that a tag would be highly useful, something like <tt><nowiki>{{ArtBounty|ArticleName}}</nowiki></tt> which both put the artwork into a particular category and provide text linking to the bounty pages and the article page concerned.

:::As for the licensing, it might be a good idea to consider future applications of the images. For example, if we want to actually publish WikiFur articles in the future it makes sense to require a license that permits that, or have that be a specific term of the agreement. You could argue that this was implied in uploading the artwork, but you could also find that this didn't work out legally. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 06:42, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

:::If just uploading them is explicit permission, then getting them to express it in text form as well wouldn't hurt. And getting them to express it in text form also allows them to express conditions like whether they require to be attributed for their work, and whether their work can be used outside WikiFur. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 08:15, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

::::How does the wording on Image:Kdelany-grayfox.jpg look to you? -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 18:46, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

:::::I think it's okay. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 19:04, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::I just thought of one more thing. I'd want to make sure that the terms really are the will of the artist. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 02:48, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

:::::Absolutely. Pick a method! -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 03:42, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::She's local, so I could just ask her. Is she claiming the bounty? --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 04:33, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::::She contacted me and she is claiming the bounty. In my [[User:Rat#Rules|original rules]], Rule #1, is that the artist has to upload their own work, but I'll waive it this time to avoid silliness like the pictures getting deleted and re-uploaded. The pictures in question are:
:::::::* [[:Image:Kdelany-redfox.jpg]] for [[Red Fox]]
:::::::* [[:Image:Kdelany-grayfox.jpg]] for [[Gray Fox]]
:::::::* [[:Image:CheetahFaces.JPG]] for [[Cheetah]]
:::::::I therefore owe Katherine $30 Canadian, and she can contact me to collect her bounty.
:::::::--[[User:Rat|Rat]] 03:43, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

== Subcategories ==

As you saw, having someone into a subcategory doesn't keep them in the supercategory. I kinda assume that most forsuit makers are furusiters as well, although I guess technically this might not be the case. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 22:55, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

== Patrolled Edits ==

Since you're an admin, you can automatically mark edits that you make as patrolled. To do this, click "preferences" at the top, then under the "Editing" section, check "Mark edits I make as patrolled" --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 22:41, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
:Okay, thanks. I never noticed those "other pages" of options before - thank you for pointing that out. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 04:24, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

== Illustrations from Sugandya ==

Hello,
I just wanted to double check with you before I got started. From what I took, one could illustrate any article (save for stubs) that lacked an illustration. Is this so? For example, I picked [[Invertebrate]], [[Kemono]], [[Otherkin]], and [[Kitsune]]; none of which (at the time of this posting) have no images for themselves that are exclusive to Wikifur. I want to make sure I have it clear. :) {{unsigned|Sugandya}}
:Yes, that's correct. You could illustrate any of those.
::Hello again. I got around to producing and adding these two: [[Invertebrate]] and [[Kemono]] for now!--[[User:Sugandya|Sugandya]] 03:01, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
:::Looks good. Use the "e-mail user" or other contact to get a hold of me in private. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 03:03, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
::::I tried to email you, but that link says no adress has been specified. {{unsigned|Sugandya}}
:::::Try now. I know I've had e-mails through it before; I don't konw how it got turned off. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 03:20, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

== Illustrations from [[User:DeVandalizer|DeVandalizer]] ==
RainRat, thanks for your generous offer. I have completed several illustrations for your approval. They are on the pages: [[Fursona]], [[Furgonomics]], [[Furry art]], and [[Draconid]]. Please let me know if any of these aren't up to specification. -- [[User:DeVandalizer|DeVandalizer]] 09:20, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
:Sorry RainRat, forgot to leave my contact information. Please e-mail me at devandalizer@gmail.com -- [[User:DeVandalizer|DeVandalizer]] 09:24, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
:Those look like they meet the guidelines. I will contact you about payment. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 09:33, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
::I have recently created a few more illustrations. These are at [[Fox]] and [[Tiger]]. -- [[User:DeVandalizer|DeVandalizer]] 18:55, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
:::Noted. The transfer to my Paypal account hasn't gone through yet, but I will send it to you when it does. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 20:06, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

== Deleting redirects ==

I would like to discuss deleting redirects. As deleted articles are still saved in the database, there is no need to do it to save disk space. In most cases there's no need to delete them. Even if there's no internal pages linking to it, there are still external links and maybe people who have it bookmarked. I don't disagree with all your deleted redirects.
Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Redirects_for_deletion#When_should_we_delete_a_redirect.3F|redirect policy]] may be a start for consideration.
--[[User:Rat|Rat]] 02:32, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

:I appreciate you letting me know. Could you be more specific about what concerns you, so I have a sense of what to continue doing and what to leave alone? My main concern has been with articles moved to correct capitalization. -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 05:29, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

::Well, to pick a recent example there was [[Zassa of FurryMUCK]]. It was under that name for a long time, so one should leave a redirect so not to break external links and bookmarks. Moving articles to correct capitalization is good, but you don't have to delete the redirects from bad capitalization to good capitalization, so links aren't broken and articles are easy to find --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 05:50, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
:::I admit, I hadn't considered external links, though I always check for internal ones. As for capitalization, I should have been clearer. I specifically refer to cases where the article was a proper name (a person, usually) and not capitalized as a proper name: John doe rather than John Doe. Similarly with typos and misspellings. -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 05:59, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
::::If there's an external link to an incorrectly-capitalized page ie [http://furry.wikia.com/wiki/Snagger_outlaw], the wiki does not take them to the correct page unless there's a redirect. If a misspelling is common, I would keep a redirect from the incorrect to the correct, but if it's an unlikely typo, then yeah, delete it. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 06:38, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

== Added article illustrations for bounty ==

I've added a few more article illustrations:
* [[Eagle]]
* [[Foxtaur]]
* [[Red Panda]]
* [[Serval]]
-- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 01:19, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
:Confirmed. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 01:53, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
:I just thought of something else. One of the rules is "You must own or have permission to use any distinctive characters." You do have permission to use the characters in KDelany-JustinSix.JPG and KDelany-ShaterriAtRest.JPG right? --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 02:03, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

== Extinctioners Characters ==

Hey Rat, I see you made some corrections to some of the Extinctioners Character pages, thanks, I appreciate your interest and improvements, what do you think of them by the way and do you have any suggestions? any additional character informations? please let me know what you think, thanks - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 20:37, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

:I really don't know that much about Extinctioners, having never read it. So I can't really comment on how well you covered the topic. I just corrected some obvious errors I came across. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 20:50, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

:PS. I was just [[WikiFur:Sandbox/References|experimenting]] with the references template. It may help keep extinctioners articles looking nice if you use this template. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 21:09, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

== [[RFAI]] ==

I decided to change this page as a Redirect to [[Raven Corr]] instead of deleting, so people would be sent from [[RFAI]] to the page where the information was moved to. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 22:58, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
:Sounds good. I didn't even think of setting it as a redirect. Thanks. ^^ [[User:SpazKitty|Spaz Kitty]] 23:02, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

== Vandalism ==

Hey Rat, RVDDP2501 here, Listen, thanks for the reversion on the my Sly page, just out of curiousity, what driving these people to go around and vandalize pages like this, I mean, this isn't right. I looked up other vandalisms this guy has done and I can't believe this, Myself and other Wikiusers put time and effort into making our article(s) and these guys just show up and take a Sledge Hammer to them, that just gets me riled up, let me know whats up, thanks - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 13:37, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Hey Rat, have the people responsible for the recent vandalism been banned? - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 01:40, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

:As far as I can see at the moment yes. I've been watching [[Special:Recentchanges]], and blocking as I see them. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 01:50, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

== Kendareru Neko-sama ==

Um, what kind of improvements are you looking for on the character's page? I'll try my best to bring it up to standards.
[[User:Kendareru|Kendareru Neko-sama]] 23:19, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
:I didn't add the cleanup tag; I just did some cleanup myself. My suggestion is look at some [[WikiFur:Featured_articles|featured articles]] and compare the style. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 07:37, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

== Protecting [[Furry]] ==

I see that you protected the article [[Furry]]. But I am confused by the comment in the protection log. Did you mean to unprotect the article? --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 22:46, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
:I did unprotect the article; I just left it so that unregistered users couldn't move it, so it still says tht it's protected. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 22:50, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

::Reducing protection but not removing it registers as 'protected' in the log: [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=protect&user=&page=Furry]. ^_^ --[[w:User:Splarka|Splarka]] ([[w:User_talk:Splarka|talk]]) 23:59, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

:::Oh, I see. I clicked on the "unprotect" tag on that article and the log message became much clearer. Thanks for pointing that out! --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 00:05, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

==Howloween 2005 attendance==
Hi Rat, I've changed the Howloween 2005 numbers elsewhere to reflect your attendance figure. If you're certain this is correct, I'll also make sure Flint Otterhall gets the corrections for his infosheet. Thanks! --[[User:Frizzy|Frizzy]] 04:58, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
:That's the information on the howloween_admin list. Unfortunately it isn't public, so I can't cite a specific message. I can't think of anything that would explain that discrepancy.(There were 6 pre-regs that didn't show up(again according to the howloween_admin list), so that isn't it as far as I know). --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 05:41, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

== Person stubs ==

Good to see more person stubs. Thank you for creating them. A few points which would cut down on subsequent edits:
* Bolded aliases should have redirects to the article
* "Soandso is an x who lives in" reads more smoothly, and is more grammatical, than "Soandso is an x living in"
* We have [[:Category:Convention staff]]
Thanks! -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 18:08, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

== WikiFur and fair use? ==

Hey Rat, which WikiFur user(s) know most about fair use (in US) and/or fair dealing (in Canada)? (I'm hoping you know) --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 06:32, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

:I know a certain amount about fair use. Fair dealing, less so (ironic, since I come from the UK, but I didn't really have to deal with it before I came here :-). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 06:33, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

::I know some, but I'm not an expert. I'll weigh in on the topic. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 08:16, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

== Art drive submissions ==
Just wanted to let you know that I've completed some work for the art drive.
**Completed [[Image:Rat fursona.png|25px]] and used in [[Rat (species)]]
**Completed [[Image:Rabbit fursona.png|25px]] and used in [[Rabbit]]
-- [[User:JSharp|JaeSharp]] 14:06, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

== page name changes ==

Hey Rat, I just want to say thanks for the page name chages for Miki and Rokko, I appreciate it - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 16:35, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Hey Rat, sorry but there was a miscommunication between me and Shawntae, He didn't want me to use the adolescent pic of Rokko, so could you please delete - Image:Rokko WhiteEye (Adolecent) by ebonyleopard.jpg - for me, thanks and sorry - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 22:41, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

== Image filenames ==

Heya. When uploading images, could you see about giving them meaningful filenames? That is there in the uploading bumf. -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 23:24, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:Ok, I have been inconsistent with doing that. I don't see a direct way to rename already uploaded images, but I can reupload them under a new name. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 23:42, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

== RedFox Nightfox ==

I changed the information on that page because it has inaccurate information about myself. I am no longer on DeviantArt and do not wish to be associated with that website.

Please do not change it again.

Thanks.

P.S.

I am curious as to the fact that someone would even create a page about me in the first place, albeit with only a little information. quite interesting...

- [[RedFox Nightfox]] - June 1, '07 11:08 CST

== Picture deletion / cannot email? ==

Log into Wikifur for the first time in months only to find out you deleted one of my pictures (a commission done for me which I had the rights to post). I tried to email you about it but WikiFur complains that I "must be logged in and have a valid email address in my preferences", both of which are true. Sounds like a bug that needs fixing.

Please do me the courtesy of emailing me or at least triggering something that'll send me a notification before you delete something valid like this.

Please revert the article to the version before you edited it so the picture will re-appear. Thank you. {{unsigned|Tugrik}}

:Looks like you've already restored it. Remember to tag the image with what the terms of use for it are.
:If you would like to be notified when a page changes (ie. your talk page), add it to your watchlist. Go under "my preferences", and check "E-mail me when a page I'm watching is changed".
:I don't know about the user-to-user mail thing. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 07:18, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

== Objective Writeup...? ==

I'm not exactly sure how you mean by making the article about myself more... objective. You mean abstract? Or controversial? Or do you mean to have more overall objectives to cover in what I explain?

I suppose I'm just not understanding exactly what particular instances you're referring to in the writeups posted which you offered as examples.

Sometimes I just have to be shown in detail; if you want to diagram it like sentence structure, I'll probably follow easier than if you say, "check out these few profiles and do it like that." Cause I'm kinda like, "Do what like how? Am I making the article too personal and biased?"

Just let me know! Thanks! --[[User:Kit-Karamak|Kit Karamak]] 21:10, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
:Some other editors besides me have taken a more active interest in the article and you may want to talk to them. Noted examples from me:
:"He has two successful fan fictions" -Successful in what way?
:"Kit is NOT a vegan." -I don't know why it's stated so strongly.
:--[[User:Rat|Rat]] 21:28, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Ah, I see. Both examples are good ones; I appreciate it. I'll keep an eye out for things that need explaining and seem trivial so that I can tighten up the article itself. Thanks again! --[[User:Kit-Karamak|Kit Karamak]] 01:31, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

== Added two images to articles ==

I've added images to [[Jackal]] and to [[Panther]]. I believe these qualify for your art bounty, but let me know if there is something I should adjust. -- [[User:KDelany|KDelany]] 23:02, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
:Okay, looks like it meets the requirements. Just let me know if you'd like the bounty immediately or if you'd just like me to add it to my records for now. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 23:31, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
::Immediate would be great; I plan to add more images in the future, but that might not be for some time. -- [[User:KDelany|KDelany]] 02:25, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

== Hi ==

I have one.

I just didn't log in.

-[[User:Skunk]] aka [[User:64.18.124.101|64.18.124.101]] 09:49, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

== Renaming article ==

Thanks for fixing up [[TFnet]] for me. The funny thing is, I kept thinking there had to be a right way to do it what wouldn't lose the history, but when I checked the [[Help:Editing|editing help link]] it seemed to clearly indicate that redirects were used for correcting article name misspellings and capitalisation errors, so... there you have it, just a newbie pedant, for all the damage that causes. *grin* Again, I'm glad you set it up right! {{unsigned|Tracerj}}
:The neat thing is, when you use the "move" function in the software, it automatically makes a redirect from the old page to the new page. Right now though, the "move" function is restricted to admins only(sorry!), so if you need a page moved, just ask an [[WikiFur:Administrators|admin]]. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 21:53, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

== vanfurs ? ==

I was about to start an article about vanfurs LJ, but I noticed vanfurs profile page says “Name: Vancouver Furs” so I was wondering what the article name should be. --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 23:17, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
:My opinion is that the mention on [[List_of_furry_LiveJournal_communities]] is enough, but if you feel you can write something more about it go ahead. You could label it [[vanfurs]] or [[Vancouver Furs (LiveJournal community)]], or pose the question to a wider group. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 06:48, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

==Protect==
Actually, what I meant was to blank the page then, protect it after removing the vandalism.. :) --[[User:Cometstyles|Comet]][[User talk:Cometstyles|styles]] 10:03, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
:Oh you did it while I was typing this..Thanks .. :) ..--[[User:Cometstyles|Comet]][[User talk:Cometstyles|styles]] 10:04, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

== wish to take the blank off ==

hi, you recnetly taekd to me on my user talk page, i was tired, and mad, i am humbly asking that you take it off and let me edit it from there.

sincerly, the border collie from south-central nebraska,
([[User:Kiboe Motegi|Kiboe Motegi]] 04:59, 5 January 2008 (UTC))

== hoy. ==

Thanks for pointing out the move tab. Last time I was here, we didn't have that function...
Hope you're available for the FC parade this year. --[[User:Madius|Madius]] 14:33, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:I was hoping to bring a newer suit than my rat suit this year. Dunno if there'll be enough room for two suits in the van. I'll be in the parade with a suit, just don't know if it'll be my rat suit. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 14:49, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

== Name? ==

I was just wondering if I could change my user name? [[User:Eurodex|Eurodex]] 22:16, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Vorarephilia

2008-03-03T22:13:52Z

Eurodex:

[[Image:Vorarephilia_small.png|thumb|200px|right|"Vorarephilia" by [[Lunar Prodigy]].]]

'''Vorarephilia''' (often misspelled '''voreaphilia''' or '''voraphilia''' because of their similar pronunciation), also known as '''phagophilia''' or simply called '''vore'''<ref name="straightDope">Adams, Cecil (2 July 2004) "[http://www.straightdope.com/columns/040702.html Eat or be eaten: Is cannibalism a pathology as listed in the DSM-IV?]" at The Straight Dope. Accessed 4 April 2007</ref> for short, is a [[Sexual fetishism|fetish]] and [[paraphilia]] where arousal occurs from the idea of being eaten, eating another, or watching this process.<ref name="brathwaite">{{cite book |title= Sex in Video Games |first= Brenda |last= Brathwaite |publisher= Charles River Media |pages= ''p''. 20 |chapterurl= http://www.charlesriver.com/resrcs/chapters/1584504595_1stChap.pdf |isbn= 1584504595 |chapter= Defining Sex |date=August 30, 2006}}</ref> The fantasy may include digestion, which may be imagined to be painless. The word ''vorarephilia'' is derived from the [[Wikipedia:Latin|Latin]] ''vorare'' [swallow, devour] and [[Wikipedia:Greek language|Old Greek]] ''philia'' [love].

Vorarephilia is typically considered an "imaginary fetish" given that fulfilling vore fantasies in reality would be difficult to say the least; although the specific cases of [[Wikipedia:Issei Sagawa|Issei Sagawa]] in Paris, [[Wikipedia:Armin Meiwes|Armin Meiwes]] in Germany, and possibly [[Wikipedia:Jeffrey Dahmer|Jeffrey Dahmer]] in the United States, show that it is within the realm of possibility (though most vorarephiles are aware of the inherent silliness of their fetish, and are largely uninterested in the idea of cannibalism).

== Terminology ==
The term ''vorarephile'' describes someone who enjoys vore. Most vorarephiles describe themselves as being "[[Prey]]" — reportedly based on how animals are considered to be prey for other animals who are in a higher chain position — while others, who actually do the eating in the fantasies, are referred to as a "Pred" (derived from the word [[predator]]).<ref>[http://vore.got-game.org/VoregottenRealm/VoreDefinition.html "What is vore ? An attempt at a definition."] Accessed 26 February 2008</ref>

== Variates ==
=== Soft Vore ===
Soft vore describes scenarios where prey is consumed alive and whole, often without it being harmed. Because of its non-violent nature, soft vore is commonly regarded as more sensual and sexually oriented. Willing or unwilling prey in soft vore prey are either [[Wikipedia:digestion|digested]], [[Wikipedia:Asphyxia|suffocated]] or simply held in the [[Wikipedia:Stomach|stomach]]. Some vorarephiles who derive pleasure from watching animals eat other animals enjoy watching [[snake]]s eating, this is because they usually swallow their prey whole, a major element in soft vore.<ref>[http://aryion.com/modules.php?name=Conteudo&pid=12 "Soft Vore" ''Eka's Portal'']</ref>

Non-sexual soft vore is often used in a wide variety literature. These may be based on Native American folklore, such as one story where Coyote enters the stomach of a giant to rescue a number of people who were eaten alive, or the biblical story of [[Wikipedia:Jonah|Jonah]]. Soft vore is also used in current day cartoons and [[anime]] (which includes "Eat or Be Eaten: Panic in the Forest," an episode of the anime series [[Wikipedia:Naruto|Naruto]] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0t1VHUeWBM]). Most of these are seen as a harmless sight gag or a minor inconvenience for a character.

=== Hard Vore ===
Hard vore describes scenarios where prey is subjected to injuries of being ripped and chewed. This type of vore involves [[Wikipedia:Cut|cutting]], [[Wikipedia:Bit|biting]], [[Wikipedia:Tear|tearing]] and usually also involves [[Wikipedia:Blood|blood]]. Although inherently there is no sexual characteristic to these portrayals, to someone with a vore fetish, they could be taken in a sexual context. Hard vore has sometimes been referred to as "gore" to separate it from soft vore.<ref>[http://aryion.com/modules.php?name=Conteudo&pid=11 "Hard Vore" ''Eka's Portal'']</ref>

Non-sexual hard vore is regularly portrayed in movies for mature audiences, such as the [[Wikipedia:Jaws (film)|Jaws]] franchise and [[Wikipedia:Deep Blue Sea|Deep Blue Sea]].<ref>[http://femme.fetishist.over-blog.com/categorie-10261802.html "Vore fetishism: Why and how?"]</ref>

=== Combinations ===
Being a [[Wikipedia:Fantasy (psychology)|fantasy]], any orifice may be thought of as capable of vore. Well known are the "genital vore" scenarios, witch includes ''unbirth''. Unbirthing involves being consumed by the [[vagina]] and taking refuge in the woman's [[womb]],<ref name="unbirth">[http://aryion.com/modules.php?name=Conteudo&pid=15 "Unbirth" ''Eka's Portal'']</ref> which is simply a "reverse birth" and, in a pure sense, can only be done by a female. It is sometimes referred to as "Female Genital Vore" or "vaginal vore." Others think of it as a mutual, erotic and consensual activity with no injury to the sexual partners involved — in that case it is not considered a form of vore.<ref name="unbirth"/>

"Male Genital Vore," commonly called ''cock vore'', refers to being consumed by the [[penis]].<ref>[http://aryion.com/modules.php?name=Conteudo&pid=14 "Cock Vore" ''Eka's Portal'']</ref> This involves the urethral opening at the top of the penis, after which they are pulled down the [[Wikipedia:Urethra|urethra]] to the predator's [[Wikipedia:Scrotum|scrotum]], in which prey is absorbed, digested, or turned into semen (sometimes known as "cum vore") and [[Wikipedia:Ejaculation|ejaculated]]. A lesser known variant involves the prey to be taken to the [[Wikipedia:Prostate|prostate]] for conversion to semen, or to the [[Wikipedia:Bladder|bladder]] for storage or digestion.<ref>[http://www.spiritus-temporis.com/cock-vore/ "Cock vore"]</ref>

Not well known, ''Anal vore'' describes being consumed by the [[anus]].<ref>[http://aryion.com/modules.php?name=Conteudo&pid=64 "Anal Vore" ''Eka's Portal'']</ref> In common scenarios, prey consumed through anal vore is often drawn up through the digestive tract to the stomach where they are digested in a normal fashion. Such is not always the case, as the prey may simply remain in the [[Wikipedia:Rectum|rectum]] of the predator for a varying length of time. ''Breast vore'' describes prey being engulfed into the predator's [[breast]] through the [[nipple]]s.<ref>[http://aryion.com/modules.php?name=Conteudo&pid=22 "Breast vore" ''Eka's Portal'']</ref> Prey consumed is usually then held in the predator's breast where they are occasionally transformed into breast milk.

== Related fetishes ==
''Macro vore'' is quite common, witch describes being consumed by a large or giant predator.<ref name=voreclub>[http://www.freewebs.com/thevoreclub/charterinfo.htm The Vore Club]</ref> Commonly called "giantess vore" (when the predator is a female), is commonly a mixture of [[macrophilia]], a fetish for giants. In ''micro vore'', on the other hand, is a combination of [[microphilia]], in witch the predator is smaller than its prey<ref name=voreclub/> (this often involves [[magic]]). ''Scat'' is combined with vore as [[coprophilia]], in witch the prey has been digested (or pushed through the [[digestive system]] alive) and excreted out.<ref name=voreclub/>

[[Maiesiophilia]] describes a love of the pregnant female form. It can take various forms, from having the shape of being pregnant while not having the pregnancy, or with a vore scenarios, looking pregnant while holding prey inside their stomach.

Motivations behind the vore paraphilia vary but [[Wikipedia:Endosomatophilia|endosomatophilia]] (attraction to fantasies involving complete encapsulation of a living thing within the body of another living thing) and dominance/submission play are two common driving forces. Allowing oneself to be literally devoured could arguably be called the ultimate act of submission on the prey's part, and the ultimate act of dominance by a predator. It is easy to draw a connection between vore and the 'snuff' fetish, but in reality the overlap is far from complete. Death is frequently sidestepped or avoided in stories and roleplaying, though for some it plays an integral role in their fantasies.

== Vorarephilia and furry ==
Vorarephilia is a relatively popular topic for [[roleplay]] and [[art]] in the furry fandom as compared to the wider world, although it is still considered a fringe interest, shared to a greater or lesser extent by perhaps 2-5% of [[furry fan]]s. Its popularity may be due to the large number of predator/prey species matchups that mingle daily, although some vorarephile characters will eat just about anything with no regard for the conventional food chain. Likewise, the mixed animal/human nature of the fandom allows bestial behavior like vore to emerge naturally alongside mutual grooming and other animalistic traits. Furry vore is also made somewhat easier to act out and depict by the fact that many furry characters do not wear [[clothes]] to begin with - and those that are doing the eating often have claws to handle the rest.

The general sequence of roleplay goes something like this:
* [[Boy]] meets [[girl]]
* (optional) Non-vore roleplay of various kinds
* Girl declares that boy looks awfully tasty, either verbally or by nibbling on something
* (optional) Boy tries to appease girl with gifts of alternate foods
* Girl pounces upon boy
* Boy puts up a token resistance but lacks the physical strength to escape
* Girl swallows boy, either all at once, or (more commonly) over a series of [[pose]]s in which boy bemoans his fate (if swallowed [[tail]]/feet first) or struggles (if swallowed head first)
* (Optional) Boy is crushed into the (usually tight) confines of girl's stomach, and expires from digestion, typically falling unconscious first due to lack of oxygen

The above is just a rough guide of the most typical sequence of events - for example, each participant may be of either gender, or [[hermaphrodite|both]], or none. Vore may not be fatal - such consumption is sometimes offered as a "warm place to stay the night". Even if digestion occurs, the consumed participant typically "respawns" or "reforms" within a few minutes to a few days. This neatly sidesteps the major disadvantage of [[real life]] vore (that you only get to do it once). The level of realism in a roleplay varies from player to player, ranging from absurd and cartoonish to anatomically correct and theoretically feasible.

Vore is in many cases - even in the role-play form - a consensual activity. For every player who decides he wants his [[fox]] to go down kicking and screaming as he is ruthlessly gobbled up, there are more who enter a chatroom with the comment "I'm feeling tasty tonight." Some wish to be hunted while others offer themselves up on a platter, and not always figuratively.

Preferences vary so widely in regards to the 'ideal' vore scenario that MUCKs like [[FurryMUCK]] and [[Tapestries]] allow players to create publicly accessible tables of 'flags' to indicate their preferences and facilitate compatible pairings. Flags like 'no pain,' 'predator,' and 'soft vore' supplement broader flags not specific to vore like 'bisexual' and 'male-biased.'

Some popular places for vorarephiles include the [[Vor Cafe]] on [[Tapestries]] (adjoined by [[The Feedery]], which caters to [[fat furs]]), the [[Zaftig City]] mailing list, (for some inhabitants) [[The Giants' Club]] on [[FurryMUCK]], [[Jess]] and [[Avon]]'s [[Vor-com]], the largest vore MUCK [[Voregotten Realm]], and one of the largest Vore communities, [[Eka's Portal]].

== References ==
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== External links ==
*[http://aryion.com/index.php Eka's Portal]
* [[Wikipedia:Vorarephilia|Vorarephilia]] on [[Wikipedia]]

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