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<p>Crusader Cat: Replaced content with &quot;I wish I was dead.&quot;</p> <hr /> <div>I wish I was dead.</div>

Crusader Cat //en.wikifur.com/wiki/User:Crusader_Cat 2020-02-23T09:06:54Z

<p>Crusader Cat: </p> <hr /> <div>I wish I was dead.</div>

Crusader Cat //en.wikifur.com/wiki/User:Crusader_Cat 2020-01-06T03:38:07Z

<p>Crusader Cat: </p> <hr /> <div>I want to crawl into a coffin and die.</div>

Crusader Cat //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Crusader_Cat 2018-05-10T00:33:11Z

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Crusader Cat //en.wikifur.com/wiki/User:Crusader_Cat 2018-05-10T00:31:27Z

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Crusader Cat //en.wikifur.com/wiki/User:Crusader_Cat 2018-05-09T20:14:21Z

<p>Crusader Cat: </p> <hr /> <div>Kill yourself</div>

Crusader Cat //en.wikifur.com/wiki/User:Crusader_Cat 2018-03-24T23:38:06Z

<p>Crusader Cat: </p> <hr /> <div>https://furryspeech.com/read-blog/33_my-side-of-the-story.html</div>

Crusader Cat //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Crusader_Cat 2017-08-09T22:45:57Z

<p>Crusader Cat: </p> <hr /> <div>{{unreferenced}}<br /> [[File:Crusader Cat at Anthrocon 2009.jpg|thumb|Crusader Cat in his [[fursuit]] at Anthrocon 2009 with [[Kevin Burkhardt]].]]<br /> [[File:Crusader_cat_at_delaware_furbowl_51.jpg|thumb|Crusader Cat at the Delaware Furbowl]]<br /> '''Crusader Cat''' is a [[fursuiter]], [[writer]] and [[actor]] who lives in Alabama, USA.<br /> <br /> == Biography ==<br /> <br /> Crusader Cat was an [[W:Independent Baptist|Independent Baptist]], advocating [[W:King_James_Only_movement|King James only movement]], and was criticial [[W:C.S. Lewis|C.S. Lewis]]' ''[[Chronicles of Narnia]]'', and [[W:Christian rock|Christian rock]]. He is a published playwright, musical theatre actor, and [[W:Bagpipe|bagpiper]].<br /> <br /> == Fandom involvement ==<br /> <br /> Crusader Cat was introduced to the [[furry fandom]] when he was seventeen, after discovering furry [[pornography]]. As a result, he became fiercely [[anti-furry]], believing it was some sort of [[bestiality]] cult. At the age of twenty, after discovering and contacting other [[Christian furries]], he learned of the diversity of the fandom, and later concluded that being a furry didn't contradict his Christian beliefs. <br /> <br /> On March 20, 2008, he decided that becoming a furry could help him deal with some of his issues regarding sexuality, while at the same time providing an opportunity to promote his beliefs. At [[Anthrocon 2008]] he experimented with this by creating [[anthropomorphic]] [[W:Jack T. Chick|Jack Chick]] style [[literature|tracts]], which he distributed at the convention. He has since renounced his religious affiliation.<br /> <br /> === Fursona ===<br /> <br /> Crusader Cat's [[fursona]] is a brown house [[cat]] with a blond salad-bowl haircut, and is most commonly depicted wearing a medieval knight outfit or orange [[W:NASA|NASA]] inspired jumpsuit.<br /> <br /> === Convention attendant ===<br /> <br /> * [[Anthrocon]] - 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2017<br /> * [[FWA|Furry Weekend Atlanta]] - 2010, 2011<br /> * [[MFM|Mephit Furmeet]] - 2010<br /> * [[New Year's Furry Ball]] - 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013<br /> * [[Furstivus]] - 2011<br /> * [[Delaware Furbowl]] - 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014<br /> * [[FA: United]] - 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014<br /> * [[Furfright]] - 2012<br /> * [[Furpocalypse]] - 2014, 2015, 2016<br /> <br /> == Controversy ==<br /> {{Unreferenced-section}}<br /> In 2009, Crusader Cat was banned from [[Fur Affinity]] after threatening legal action against the site, under the belief that the FA staff were not taking his harassment issues regarding several users{{who}} seriously,{{fact}} or were ignoring these trouble tickets outright due to his religious beliefs.{{fact}}.<br /> <br /> Crusader Cat is also a member of [[Furry Raiders]] as well as [[AltFurry]]. [[File:Crusaderraider.png|thumb|Crusader Cat in fursuit wearing the Raiders arm Band[[http://www.furaffinity.net/view/24384654/]] - &lt;/ref&gt;]]<br /> <br /> ==References==<br /> &lt;references/&gt;<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> {{Contributor}}<br /> * [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/CrusaderCat/ Crusader Cat] on [[Fur Affinity]]<br /> * [https://www.weasyl.com/~crusadercat Crusader Cat] on [[Weasyl]]<br /> <br /> {{person-stub}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:People]]<br /> [[Category:Writers]]<br /> [[Category:Fursuiters]]<br /> [[Category:Cat characters]]<br /> [[Category:Alabama]]<br /> [[Category:1987 births]]</div>

Crusader Cat //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Crusader_Cat 2017-08-09T22:40:24Z

<p>Crusader Cat: </p> <hr /> <div>{{unreferenced}}<br /> [[File:Crusader Cat at Anthrocon 2009.jpg|thumb|Crusader Cat in his [[fursuit]] at Anthrocon 2009 with [[Kevin Burkhardt]].]]<br /> [[File:Crusader_cat_at_delaware_furbowl_51.jpg|thumb|Crusader Cat at the Delaware Furbowl]]<br /> '''Crusader Cat''' is a [[fursuiter]], [[writer]] and [[actor]] who lives in Alabama, USA.<br /> <br /> == Biography ==<br /> <br /> Crusader Cat was an [[W:Independent Baptist|Independent Baptist]], advocating [[W:King_James_Only_movement|King James only movement]], and was criticial [[W:C.S. Lewis|C.S. Lewis]]' ''[[Chronicles of Narnia]]'', and [[W:Christian rock|Christian rock]]. He is a published playwright, musical theatre actor, and [[W:Bagpipe|bagpiper]].<br /> <br /> == Fandom involvement ==<br /> <br /> Crusader Cat was introduced to the [[furry fandom]] when he was seventeen, after discovering furry [[pornography]]. As a result, he became fiercely [[anti-furry]], believing it was some sort of [[bestiality]] cult. At the age of twenty, after discovering and contacting other [[Christian furries]], he learned of the diversity of the fandom, and later concluded that being a furry didn't contradict his Christian beliefs. <br /> <br /> On March 20, 2008, he decided that becoming a furry could help him deal with some of his issues regarding sexuality, while at the same time providing an opportunity to promote his beliefs. At [[Anthrocon 2008]] he experimented with this by creating [[anthropomorphic]] [[W:Jack T. Chick|Jack Chick]] style [[literature|tracts]], which he distributed at the convention. He has since renounced his religious affiliation.<br /> <br /> === Fursona ===<br /> <br /> Crusader Cat's [[fursona]] is a brown house [[cat]] with a blond salad-bowl haircut, and is most commonly depicted wearing a medieval knight outfit or orange [[W:NASA|NASA]] inspired jumpsuit.<br /> <br /> === Convention attendant ===<br /> <br /> * [[Anthrocon]] - 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2017<br /> * [[FWA|Furry Weekend Atlanta]] - 2010, 2011<br /> * [[MFM|Mephit Furmeet]] - 2010<br /> * [[New Year's Furry Ball]] - 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013<br /> * [[Furstivus]] - 2011<br /> * [[Delaware Furbowl]] - 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014<br /> * [[FA: United]] - 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014<br /> * [[Furfright]] - 2012<br /> * [[Furpocalypse]] - 2014, 2015, 2016<br /> <br /> == Controversy ==<br /> {{Unreferenced-section}}<br /> In 2009, Crusader Cat was banned from [[Fur Affinity]] after threatening legal action against the site, under the belief that the FA staff were not taking his harassment issues regarding several users{{who}} seriously,{{fact}} or were ignoring these trouble tickets outright due to his religious beliefs.{{fact}}.<br /> <br /> Crusader Cat is also a member of [[Furry Raiders]] as well as [[AltFurry]]. [[File:Crusaderraider.png|thumb|Crusader Cat in fursuit wearing the Raiders arm Band]]<br /> <br /> ==References==<br /> &lt;references/&gt;<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> {{Contributor}}<br /> * [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/CrusaderCat/ Crusader Cat] on [[Fur Affinity]]<br /> * [https://www.weasyl.com/~crusadercat Crusader Cat] on [[Weasyl]]<br /> <br /> {{person-stub}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:People]]<br /> [[Category:Writers]]<br /> [[Category:Fursuiters]]<br /> [[Category:Cat characters]]<br /> [[Category:Alabama]]<br /> [[Category:1987 births]]</div>

Crusader Cat //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Crusader_Cat 2017-08-09T22:39:36Z

<p>Crusader Cat: Clarification, I wasn't &quot;largely inactive&quot; or &quot;resurface&quot; since I was uploading something new to furaffinity an average once ever 12 days or so. Also, updated convention attendance.</p> <hr /> <div>{{unreferenced}}<br /> [[File:Crusader Cat at Anthrocon 2009.jpg|thumb|Crusader Cat in his [[fursuit]] at Anthrocon 2009 with [[Kevin Burkhardt]].]]<br /> [[File:Crusader_cat_at_delaware_furbowl_51.jpg|thumb|Crusader Cat at the Delaware Furbowl]]<br /> '''Crusader Cat''' is a [[fursuiter]], [[writer]] and [[actor]] who lives in Alabama, USA.<br /> <br /> == Biography ==<br /> <br /> Crusader Cat was an [[W:Independent Baptist|Independent Baptist]], advocating [[W:King_James_Only_movement|King James only movement]], and was criticial [[W:C.S. Lewis|C.S. Lewis]]' ''[[Chronicles of Narnia]]'', and [[W:Christian rock|Christian rock]]. He is a published playwright, musical theatre actor, and [[W:Bagpipe|bagpiper]].<br /> <br /> == Fandom involvement ==<br /> <br /> Crusader Cat was introduced to the [[furry fandom]] when he was seventeen, after discovering furry [[pornography]]. As a result, he became fiercely [[anti-furry]], believing it was some sort of [[bestiality]] cult. At the age of twenty, after discovering and contacting other [[Christian furries]], he learned of the diversity of the fandom, and later concluded that being a furry didn't contradict his Christian beliefs. <br /> <br /> On March 20, 2008, he decided that becoming a furry could help him deal with some of his issues regarding sexuality, while at the same time providing an opportunity to promote his beliefs. At [[Anthrocon 2008]] he experimented with this by creating [[anthropomorphic]] [[W:Jack T. Chick|Jack Chick]] style [[literature|tracts]], which he distributed at the convention. He has since renounced his religious affiliation.<br /> <br /> === Fursona ===<br /> <br /> Crusader Cat's [[fursona]] is a brown house [[cat]] with a blond salad-bowl haircut, and is most commonly depicted wearing a medieval knight outfit or orange [[W:NASA|NASA]] inspired jumpsuit.<br /> <br /> === Convention attendant ===<br /> <br /> * [[Anthrocon]] - 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2017<br /> * [[FWA|Furry Weekend Atlanta]] - 2010, 2011<br /> * [[MFM|Mephit Furmeet]] - 2010<br /> * [[New Year's Furry Ball]] - 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013<br /> * [[Furstivus]] - 2011<br /> * [[Delaware Furbowl]] - 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014<br /> * [[FA: United]] - 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014<br /> * [[Furfright]] - 2012<br /> * [[Furpocalypse]] - 2014, 2015, 2016<br /> <br /> == Controversy ==<br /> {{Unreferenced-section}}<br /> In 2009, Crusader Cat was banned from [[Fur Affinity]] after threatening legal action against the site, under the belief that the FA staff were not taking his harassment issues regarding several users{{who}} seriously,{{fact}} or were ignoring these trouble tickets outright due to his religious beliefs.{{fact}}.<br /> <br /> Crusader Cat is also a member of [[Furry Raiders]] as well as [[AltFurry]], two largely controversial groups within the Furry Fandom. [[File:Crusaderraider.png|thumb|Crusader Cat in fursuit wearing the Raiders arm Band]]<br /> <br /> ==References==<br /> &lt;references/&gt;<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> {{Contributor}}<br /> * [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/CrusaderCat/ Crusader Cat] on [[Fur Affinity]]<br /> * [https://www.weasyl.com/~crusadercat Crusader Cat] on [[Weasyl]]<br /> <br /> {{person-stub}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:People]]<br /> [[Category:Writers]]<br /> [[Category:Fursuiters]]<br /> [[Category:Cat characters]]<br /> [[Category:Alabama]]<br /> [[Category:1987 births]]</div>

Crusader Cat //en.wikifur.com/wiki/File:Crusaderraider.png 2017-08-09T22:38:37Z

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Crusader Cat //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Crusader_Cat 2017-08-09T04:50:51Z

<p>Crusader Cat: Reverting edit</p> <hr /> <div>{{unreferenced}}<br /> [[File:Crusader Cat at Anthrocon 2009.jpg|thumb|Crusader Cat in his [[fursuit]] at Anthrocon 2009 with [[Kevin Burkhardt]].]]<br /> [[File:Crusader_cat_at_delaware_furbowl_51.jpg|thumb|Crusader Cat at the Delaware Furbowl]]<br /> '''Crusader Cat''' is a [[fursuiter]], [[writer]] and [[actor]] who lives in Alabama, USA.<br /> <br /> == Biography ==<br /> <br /> Crusader Cat was an [[W:Independent Baptist|Independent Baptist]], advocating [[W:King_James_Only_movement|King James only movement]], and was criticial [[W:C.S. Lewis|C.S. Lewis]]' ''[[Chronicles of Narnia]]'', and [[W:Christian rock|Christian rock]]. He is a published playwright, musical theatre actor, and [[W:Bagpipe|bagpiper]].<br /> <br /> == Fandom involvement ==<br /> <br /> Crusader Cat was introduced to the [[furry fandom]] when he was seventeen, after discovering furry [[pornography]]. As a result, he became fiercely [[anti-furry]], believing it was some sort of [[bestiality]] cult. At the age of twenty, after discovering and contacting other [[Christian furries]], he learned of the diversity of the fandom, and later concluded that being a furry didn't contradict his Christian beliefs. <br /> <br /> On March 20, 2008, he decided that becoming a furry could help him deal with some of his issues regarding sexuality, while at the same time providing an opportunity to promote his beliefs. At [[Anthrocon 2008]] he experimented with this by creating [[anthropomorphic]] [[W:Jack T. Chick|Jack Chick]] style [[literature|tracts]], which he distributed at the convention. He has since renounced his religious affiliation.<br /> <br /> === Fursona ===<br /> <br /> Crusader Cat's [[fursona]] is a brown house [[cat]] with a blond salad-bowl haircut, and is most commonly depicted wearing a medieval knight outfit or orange [[W:NASA|NASA]] inspired jumpsuit.<br /> <br /> === Convention attendant ===<br /> <br /> * [[Anthrocon]] - 2008, 2009, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2017<br /> * [[FWA|Furry Weekend Atlanta]] - 2010-2011<br /> * [[MFM|Mephit Furmeet]] - 2010<br /> * [[New Year's Furry Ball]] - 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013<br /> * [[Furstivus]] - 2011<br /> * [[Delaware Furbowl]] - 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014<br /> * [[FA: United]] - 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014<br /> * [[Furfright]] - 2012<br /> <br /> == Controversy ==<br /> {{Unreferenced-section}}<br /> In 2009, Crusader Cat was banned from [[Fur Affinity]] after threatening legal action against the site, under the belief that the FA staff were not taking his harassment issues regarding several users{{who}} seriously,{{fact}} or were ignoring these trouble tickets outright due to his religious beliefs.{{fact}}.<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> {{Contributor}}<br /> * [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/CrusaderCat/ Crusader Cat] on [[Fur Affinity]]<br /> * [https://www.weasyl.com/~crusadercat Crusader Cat] on [[Weasyl]]<br /> <br /> {{person-stub}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:People]]<br /> [[Category:Writers]]<br /> [[Category:Fursuiters]]<br /> [[Category:Cat characters]]<br /> [[Category:Alabama]]<br /> [[Category:1987 births]]</div>

Crusader Cat //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Crusader_Cat 2017-02-06T20:29:17Z

<p>Crusader Cat: </p> <hr /> <div>{{unreferenced}}<br /> [[File:Crusader Cat at Anthrocon 2009.jpg|thumb|Crusader Cat in his [[fursuit]] at Anthrocon 2009 with [[Kevin Burkhardt]].]]<br /> [[File:Crusader_cat_at_delaware_furbowl_51.jpg|thumb|Crusader Cat at the Delaware Furbowl]]<br /> '''Crusader Cat''' is a [[fursuiter]], [[writer]] and [[actor]] who lives in Alabama, USA.<br /> <br /> == Biography ==<br /> <br /> Crusader Cat was an [[W:Independent Baptist|Independent Baptist]], advocating [[W:King_James_Only_movement|King James only movement]], and was criticial [[W:C.S. Lewis|C.S. Lewis]]' ''[[Chronicles of Narnia]]'', and [[W:Christian rock|Christian rock]]. He is a published playwright, musical theatre actor, and [[W:Bagpipe|bagpiper]].<br /> <br /> == Fandom involvement ==<br /> <br /> Crusader Cat was introduced to the [[furry fandom]] when he was seventeen, after discovering furry [[pornography]]. As a result, he became fiercely [[anti-furry]], believing it was some sort of [[bestiality]] cult. At the age of twenty, after discovering and contacting other [[Christian furries]], he learned of the diversity of the fandom, and later concluded that being a furry didn't contradict his Christian beliefs. <br /> <br /> On March 20, 2008, he decided that becoming a furry could help him deal with some of his issues regarding sexuality, while at the same time providing an opportunity to promote his beliefs. At [[Anthrocon 2008]] he experimented with this by creating [[anthropomorphic]] [[W:Jack T. Chick|Jack Chick]] style [[literature|tracts]], which he distributed at the convention. He has since renounced his religious affiliation.<br /> <br /> === Fursona ===<br /> <br /> Crusader Cat's [[fursona]] is a brown house [[cat]] with a blond salad-bowl haircut, and is most commonly depicted wearing a medieval knight outfit or orange [[W:NASA|NASA]] inspired jumpsuit.<br /> <br /> === Convention attendant ===<br /> <br /> * [[Anthrocon]] - 2008, 2009, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014<br /> * [[FWA|Furry Weekend Atlanta]] - 2010-2011<br /> * [[MFM|Mephit Furmeet]] - 2010<br /> * [[New Year's Furry Ball]] - 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013<br /> * [[Furstivus]] - 2011<br /> * [[Delaware Furbowl]] - 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014<br /> * [[FA: United]] - 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014<br /> * [[Furfright]] - 2012<br /> <br /> == Controversy ==<br /> <br /> In 2009, Crusader Cat was banned from [[Fur Affinity]] after threatening legal action against the site, under the belief that the FA staff were not taking his harassment issues regarding several users{{who}} seriously,{{fact}} or were ignoring these trouble tickets outright due to his religious beliefs.{{fact}}.<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> {{Contributor}}<br /> * [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/CrusaderCat/ Crusader Cat] on [[Fur Affinity]]<br /> * [https://www.weasyl.com/~crusadercat Crusader Cat] on [[Weasyl]]<br /> <br /> {{person-stub}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:People]]<br /> [[Category:Writers]]<br /> [[Category:Fursuiters]]<br /> [[Category:Cat characters]]<br /> [[Category:Alabama]]<br /> [[Category:1987 births]]</div>

Crusader Cat //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Crusader_Cat 2015-12-24T03:02:12Z

<p>Crusader Cat: </p> <hr /> <div>{{unreferenced}}<br /> [[File:Crusader Cat at Anthrocon 2009.jpg|thumb|Crusader Cat in his [[fursuit]] at Anthrocon 2009 with [[Kevin Burkhardt]].]]<br /> [[File:Crusader_cat_at_delaware_furbowl_51.jpg|thumb|Crusader Cat at the Delaware Furbowl]]<br /> '''Crusader Cat''' is a [[fursuiter]], [[writer]] and [[actor]] who lives in [[W:Alabama|Alabama]], USA.<br /> <br /> == Biography ==<br /> <br /> Crusader Cat was an [[W:Independent Baptist|Independent Baptist]], advocating [[W:King_James_Only_movement|King James only movement]], and was criticial [[W:C.S. Lewis|C.S. Lewis]]' ''[[Chronicles of Narnia]]'', and [[W:Christian rock|Christian rock]]. He is a published playwright, musical theatre actor, and [[W:Bagpipe|bagpiper]].<br /> <br /> == Fandom involvement ==<br /> <br /> Crusader Cat was introduced to the [[furry fandom]] when he was seventeen, after discovering furry [[pornography]]. As a result, he became fiercely [[anti-furry]], believing it was some sort of [[bestiality]] cult. At the age of twenty, after discovering and contacting other [[Christian furries]], he learned of the diversity of the fandom, and later concluded that being a furry didn't contradict his Christian beliefs. <br /> <br /> On March 20, 2008, he decided that becoming a furry could help him deal with some of his issues regarding sexuality, while at the same time providing an opportunity to promote his beliefs. At [[Anthrocon 2008]] he experimented with this by creating [[anthropomorphic]] [[W:Jack T. Chick|Jack Chick]] style [[literature|tracts]], which he distributed at the convention. He has since renounced his religious affiliation.<br /> <br /> === Fursona ===<br /> <br /> Crusader Cat's [[fursona]] is a brown house [[cat]] with a blond salad-bowl haircut, and is most commonly depicted wearing a medieval knight outfit or orange [[W:NASA|NASA]] inspired jumpsuit.<br /> <br /> === Convention attendant ===<br /> <br /> * [[Anthrocon]] - 2008, 2009, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014<br /> * [[FWA|Furry Weekend Atlanta]] - 2010-2011<br /> * [[MFM|Mephit Furmeet]] - 2010<br /> * [[New Year's Furry Ball]] - 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013<br /> * [[Furstivus]] - 2011<br /> * [[Delaware Furbowl]] - 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014<br /> * [[FA: United]] - 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014<br /> * [[Furfright]] - 2012<br /> <br /> == Controversy ==<br /> <br /> In 2009, Crusader Cat was banned from [[Fur Affinity]] after threatening legal action against the site, under the belief that the FA staff were not taking his harassment issues regarding several users{{who}} seriously,{{fact}} or were ignoring these trouble tickets outright due to his religious beliefs.{{fact}}.<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> {{Contributor}}<br /> * [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/CrusaderCat/ Crusader Cat] on [[Fur Affinity]]<br /> <br /> {{person-stub}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:People]]<br /> [[Category:Writers]]<br /> [[Category:Fursuiters]]<br /> [[Category:Cat characters]]<br /> [[Category:Alabama]]<br /> [[Category:1987 births]]</div>

Crusader Cat //en.wikifur.com/wiki/User:Crusader_Cat 2015-12-12T22:25:50Z

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Crusader Cat //en.wikifur.com/wiki/User:Crusader_Cat 2015-12-12T22:22:50Z

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Crusader Cat //en.wikifur.com/wiki/User_talk:Crusader_Cat 2015-06-28T08:40:24Z

<p>Crusader Cat: </p> <hr /> <div>Welcome to [[WikiFur]]! Thank you for telling us about yourself. We here at [[WikiFur]] look forward to working with you. [[Forum:Help desk|Let us know]] if you need any [[help]] not already provided. If you would like help continuing to create your article or any other, don't hesitate to consult the [[Help:Furry Book of Style|Furry Book of Style]] or just contact a [[WikiFur:Administrator|administrator]] Have a nice day! :-)<br /> --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 17:53, 16 July 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Please do not remove or otherwise alter other people's comments in talk pages, either for articles or users, when they are not obvious vandalism. These discussions of the article's content act as a historical record. We may sometimes make exceptions, and I will allow the removal of the comment from [[User talk:KendricksRedtail]] since there's no apparent reason why the original comment should have been made there in the first place, but in most cases this is frowned upon. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 17:41, 18 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Need help with my page ==<br /> <br /> I'm trying to add another heading on my page with some more information, but when I add it, it removes another heading and the external links. How do I keep everything I have now and add new info? &lt;small&gt;—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Crusader Cat|Crusader Cat]] ([[User talk:Crusader Cat|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Crusader Cat|contribs]]) .&lt;/small&gt;&lt;!-- [Template:Unsigned] --&gt;<br /> :You were doing it wrong. It's &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt;, not &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;ref/&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt;. Your references were never finishing. I've fixed it up with the new section. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 03:02, 14 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Latest edit to user page (Wikifur versus personal websites) ==<br /> <br /> Wikifur is not your personal homepage. Even for an User Page, the data currently in it, the latest data (and the now deleted images) are not acceptable information (the complains is '''five times bigger''' that your Wikifur article). Please remove the non-historical/furry lore problems/grievances to an off-site website with direct reference link to this page. - [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] ([[User talk:Spirou|talk]]) 19:08, 9 August 2014 (EDT)<br /> :Since your [[Fur Affinity]] page is not accessible, this dissertation can be moved to your open [[Weasyl]] account's journal section. A redirect can then by applied to this page. - [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] ([[User talk:Spirou|talk]]) 00:44, 10 August 2014 (EDT)<br /> ::Unfortunately, since the subject in question has his own [https://www.weasyl.com/~insanekangaroo Weasyl] account (albeit hardly active) I think it would be considered harassment of another user and disallowed there just as it would here. I'll remove it as you requested. - [[user: Crusader Cat|Crusader Cat]] 16:38 10 August 2014 (EDT)<br /> :::Albeit the information having to do with the user himself, shouldn't some basic data remain for people to understand who Crusader Cat is? - {{unsigned|Hydroplane}}<br /> :::: I think Spirou was referring to my addendum about Insane Kangaroo, not the subject of my user page as a whole. - [[user: Crusader Cat|Crusader Cat]] 18:00 10 August 2014 (EDT)<br /> :::::No, as a whole, not just the latest edit (again. ''&quot;Even for an User Page, '''the data currently in it''', ''the latest data'' (and the now deleted images) are not acceptable information&quot;''). Even with the small deletion, the user page is still four times bigger than the factual article. An user page is more or less open to more personal data, as a place to test edits, prepare articles, some silly stuff, small comments/musings, temp storage of data, etc,... not this type of (long) personal complaints. If you can't/won't use Weasyl's journal, [[Tumblr]], [[Facebook]], [[Livejournal]] are quick alternatives to creating a website from scratch to place the information there ([[Twitter]] is limited to 140 characters, so it's not a place to move this whole thing too). - [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] ([[User talk:Spirou|talk]]) 19:39, 10 August 2014 (EDT)<br /> ::::::That is strange, I was told by [[user: GreenReaper|GreenReaper]] that I was allowed to place this information here, and up until now, no one seemed to have a problem. You also severely misunderstand my meaning here, my talk page is not a &quot;complaint&quot; it is an explanation of the controversy about me from my point of view. The reason I chose wikifur (as opposed to another website where I would have more control)is because wikifur has proven to me that it is unbiased and doesn't have an agenda other than providing accurate information on things related to the fandom. While I understand why latest edits would be considered controversial or even hostile, this is not true of the earlier postings. I find it rather odd that after being up for five months you only now have a problem with it. I will remove it as you requested - [[user: Crusader Cat|Crusader Cat]] 20:23 10 August 2014 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Latest edit to user page (Wikifur versus personal websites II) ==<br /> <br /> Again... Wikifur, in this case, your user page, is not your personal homepage, nor a soapbox, neither a bulletin board, or a place to ''clear up any rumors, slander, and libel''. Please defer this info and intent to your website, social site, gallery journal page, etc. Wikifur is not your personal castle to fight back from. - [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] ([[User talk:Spirou|talk]]) 04:20, 28 June 2015 (EDT)<br /> :NO! I am BEYOND fed up being harassed like this, I was given permission FROM THE [[User: GreenReaper|SITE OWNER]] to post this information, and said information was up for a month before you arbitrarily decided to remove it because it was &quot;too long&quot; (It was barely the length of a high school essay, if that's too much for you maybe you should go back to your picture books). If [[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]] said I am allowed to put this in my user page then I will put this on my user page, and I will not allow any changes unless he says otherwise. If you want to keep bullying me then I request that Greenreaper come here and weigh in on the issue himself.<br /> [[user: Crusader Cat|Crusader Cat]] 03:35 28 June 2015 (CST)</div>

Crusader Cat //en.wikifur.com/wiki/User:Crusader_Cat 2015-06-28T08:40:16Z

<p>Crusader Cat: Undo revision 452122 by Spirou (talk)</p> <hr /> <div>I will attempt to clear up any rumors, slander, and libel that those of the “tolerant” furry community see fit to infect the internet with. First I will start a list of rumors that I am aware of, give an explanation from my perspective as to why this stuff has happened to me, and give clarification on why I feel this needs to be said.<br /> == Rumors ==<br /> === The &quot;homophobia&quot; rumor ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I hate gays, I attempted a gay genocide at Anthrocon, I support “kill the gays” laws.<br /> <br /> TRUTH: I never said anything about hating gays, and I sure as hell never threatened or attempted to harm another gay (or human being) in my life. When I look through my contact lists, I find that I don’t actually have any heterosexual friends. Specifically the claim that I attempted a “gay genocide” at Anthrocon was created by Insane Kangaroo in an ironic attempt to harm me with a flash mob he was planning.<br /> <br /> === The Furaffinity Rumor ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I threatened to sue Fur Affinity for being anti-Christian<br /> <br /> TRUTH: [[David Ross | Insane Kangaroo]] uploaded a submission of my fursona receiving anal sex with “raptor jesus” after reporting him twice, two administrators ([http://www.furaffinity.net/user/xaerun Xearun] and [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/tsawolf TSAwolf]) refused to remove them. They didn’t simply ignore me, they weren’t being lazy, they sent me a private message REFUSEING to enforce their own rules. Since I was well versed in the FA rules regarding harassment, I did the right thing by posting in the FA forums about this. Within one hour, the forum post was deleted; not locked, deleted. Within one day, my account was banned, and I was subjected to public humiliation since then. While I did threaten a lawsuit, the supposed reasons for it are false (More on this later). By the way, I’m not a Christian anymore, so I guess the joke’s on them.<br /> <br /> === The Bestiality Rumor ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I am a zoophile.<br /> <br /> TRUTH: I am not guilty of zoophilia, and any evidence that was presented on ED was completely fabricated. I don’t know who wrote the document but it is clear from the bad spelling and laughable claims that whoever made this wanted some fun at my expense.<br /> <br /> === The Suicide Rumor ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I am/was suicidal.<br /> <br /> TRUTH: This one was surprising, considering how fast it spread. It started shortly before Anthrocon. After AC, pics of me were popping up saying “He’s still alive guys” and stuff like that. It’s the only rumor about me that ended before I even heard about it. It still pops up every once in a while. Apparently minding my own business is the same thing as being dead according to the internet.<br /> <br /> === The Murder Rumors ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I have a list of people to kill<br /> <br /> TRUTH: While having a list is handy, one of that nature serves me no purpose.<br /> <br /> === More Murder Rumors ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I attempted to assassinate former president Bill Clinton.<br /> <br /> TRUTH: The former president came to my college campus campaigning for Hillary. The details of this rumor involve me getting tackled by the secret service for running across campus with something hidden under my coat. What I was carrying was a megaphone, I was later told the college staff that I was not allowed to have it, I handed it over and it was returned to me after Clinton left.<br /> <br /> === The &quot;Retarded&quot; Rumor ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I believe in God because I’m schizophrenic.<br /> <br /> TRUTH: Religion is not a mental illness, deal with it.<br /> <br /> === The Brainwashing Rumor ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I was raped/brainwashed by a priest as a kid.<br /> <br /> TRUTH: Baptists don’t have priests, they have pastors. And according to the CIA, brainwashing is [http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/lsd/marks8.htm not possible]. I didn’t start practicing Christianity until I was around 10. I stopped practicing at age 22 when I was blackmailed by Insane Kangaroo.<br /> == Why did this happen? ==<br /> === Why does everyone say I “hate” gays? ===<br /> This one I can chock up to being something called a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecutory_delusion persecution complex]. On furaffinity, I have only mentioned homosexuality ONCE and that was because someone asked me about it. Here is what happened (note: this isn’t paraphrased):<br /> Other furry: “I’m just curious, what is your opinion on gay marriage”<br /> Me: “The Bible says it’s a sin, so that’s what I believe”<br /> Other furry: “OMG HOW DARE YOU YOU’RE A HATEFUL BIGOT”<br /> Since homosexuality is not an issue I really care that much about, I chose never to talk about it that much. It was never an issue with me, but was always an issue with them. So this whole homophobia myth is rooted in furries who couldn’t keep their mouths shut. My “crime” is simply giving an opinion when I was asked.<br /> === Why did I threaten to “sue” furaffinity? ===<br /> One of the biggest mistakes I made was joining furaffinity in the first place. Had I known how intolerant everyone was of Christians, I would have saved myself a world of hurt and humiliation. But other than that, none of what happened was my fault.<br /> “A user may not intentionally harass, slander, or disrupt another user of the site, <br /> or, through inaction, allow another user to come to be harassed.” <br /> So we know from this rule, Insane Kangaroo was intentionally violating the FA rules by harassing me, and the administrators Xearun and TSAwolf were also violating the rules by allowing me to be harassed (note that the [http://help.furaffinity.net/article/AA-01065/0/Code-of-Conduct-COC.html rules] have changed since then). Before I was banned I received about 80 messages a day on FA, on average 78-79 of them were death threats, people blaspheming and attacking Christianity, calling me a NAZI, and even threatening my family. The most shocking part is that some of this hate came from the admins! To my knowledge NOT ONE USER who threatened me was punished. Not surprisingly, Insane Kangaroo was friends with Dragoneer for a while, which means the deck was stacked against me. Luckily, Dragoneer knows better now. My attempt to “sue” FA was simply an empty threat I made out of desperation. In the end it worked, the offending submissions were removed. I could have prevented all of this by staying away from FA, and Dragoneer could have prevented this by simply doing the job he was morally obligated to do.<br /> === Why does everyone call me a “catfucker”? ===<br /> This is basically the furry version of Godwins law, if someone disagrees with you, they must be a zoophile. The term is probably derived from the old anti-furry slur “[[skunkfucker]]” from the 1980’s. Skunk was clearly changed cat because my fursona is a cat. If you pay attention to furry behavior, furries extrapolate conclusions based on the most flimsy evidence. All they have is a phony document and a few Photoshop hack jobs found on ED (a site known for making off the wall claims). FAF administrator [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/chase Chase] and popular artist/coder [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/zaush Zaush] are other examples of how furries affirm the consequent.<br /> === Why does everyone think I’m clinically retarded? ===<br /> This is another case of affirming the consequent. Their train of thought goes like this: “Belief in God is illogical, you are a creationist, therefore, you are stupid.&quot;<br /> === If your ban was unfair, why wasn’t it overturned? ===<br /> Many of my friends on FA saw fit to stand up for me in the one place I can’t. Unfortunately, they did so without my prior permission, and even against my expressed wishes. I don’t mind when someone defends me, but what happened was full on White-Knighting, and that is not something I condone. Trying to defend yourself on the website you’ve been banned from for years is already and uphill battle, but it’s made worse when misguided friends appoint themselves as a defense attorney when they don’t know what their client is accused of.<br /> === What about you and Dragoneer? ===<br /> Things have always been tense between us. Despite that, Dragoneer has put up with multiple appeals to unban me from furaffintiy and let bygones be bygones. Unfortunately, every single one of these ended badly (none of which were Dragoneers fault). Then, at Anthrocon 2011, he came to me in person and said since I was a good boy at FA:United, my account would be unbanned in three months. Nearly two years later (yes I’m that patient), nothing happened. So I enquired to Dragoneer via email why nothing has happened. His response was depressing and petty:<br /> “I really didn't see a reason to unban your account since your decision was to insult the offer after we tried to be polite and reach out.”<br /> The “insult” he is referring to is a joke I told about inkbunny. This is what I said:<br /> “Well, it’s ok if you decide not to unban me ‘cause Inkbunny has better porn anyway”. <br /> The obvious joke was that since I think IB is superior (I don’t) I must be a pedophile with an interest in Cub Porn. The joke was so obvious that Dragoneers [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/sciggles fiancé] (who is now his wife) actually burst out laughing. There is no way he could have misinterpreted what I said, so it’s clear he was just looking for an excuse to keep me off his website. Either way, he and I are on friendly enough terms that he allows me to attend FA:United every year, and since I rather enjoy that convention, I take that as a good gesture.<br /> === What about you and Insane Kangaroo? ===<br /> There’s no way I can say this kindly; IK is a criminal, a bigot, and a bully. He has personally harassed my family, and my college professors, all under the delusion that he was “helping” me. He tried to report me to the police TWICE for bestiality (I suspect he even wrote the fake “confession”) His attempt at a flash mob at Anthrocon resulted in me reporting him to security, one month later, he was banned. Eventually, I finally managed to report him to the FBI for the blackmail I was living under for almost a year, and I was told he lost his job as a result. He is now one of the most hated furries in the fandom. Since Insane Kangaroo cannot compete with the long arm of the law, his harassment of me (which still continues to this day) is reduced to nothing more than lame trolling attempts. It is no exaggeration that all of the suffering I have endured is his fault.<br /> == Conclusion ==<br /> For a long time, I tried to ignore all that happened to me and not dwell on the past. It hasn’t worked. I have this painful desire to get this off my chest because I noticed most people only seem to have one side of the story. I hear people murmuring about me when they think I’m out of earshot, I want to speak for myself instead of having a nameless anonymous collective source seizing my identity and corrupting people's perception of who I am before they ever get a chance to meet me. What made the fandom fun in the first place has been taken from me. It hurts myself and it hurts others by forcing them to judge me without ever meeting me. I leave you with this quote about me from an anonymous furry I never met. This is what an unbiased view looks like, when I think of the Furry Fandom, I think of this:<br /> “All these people keep saying what a terrible person Crusader Cat is. <br /> Yet I have yet to hear a single person come forward and say there were mistreated by him. <br /> Heck, I’ve been at parties where he’s been present. He kept to himself and didn’t bother anyone. <br /> Socially awkward? Perhaps. Deserving of scorn? Hardly.”</div>

Crusader Cat //en.wikifur.com/wiki/User:Crusader_Cat 2015-06-28T07:47:11Z

<p>Crusader Cat: I will not be censored anymore</p> <hr /> <div>I will attempt to clear up any rumors, slander, and libel that those of the “tolerant” furry community see fit to infect the internet with. First I will start a list of rumors that I am aware of, give an explanation from my perspective as to why this stuff has happened to me, and give clarification on why I feel this needs to be said.<br /> == Rumors ==<br /> === The &quot;homophobia&quot; rumor ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I hate gays, I attempted a gay genocide at Anthrocon, I support “kill the gays” laws.<br /> <br /> TRUTH: I never said anything about hating gays, and I sure as hell never threatened or attempted to harm another gay (or human being) in my life. When I look through my contact lists, I find that I don’t actually have any heterosexual friends. Specifically the claim that I attempted a “gay genocide” at Anthrocon was created by Insane Kangaroo in an ironic attempt to harm me with a flash mob he was planning.<br /> <br /> === The Furaffinity Rumor ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I threatened to sue Fur Affinity for being anti-Christian<br /> <br /> TRUTH: [[David Ross | Insane Kangaroo]] uploaded a submission of my fursona receiving anal sex with “raptor jesus” after reporting him twice, two administrators ([http://www.furaffinity.net/user/xaerun Xearun] and [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/tsawolf TSAwolf]) refused to remove them. They didn’t simply ignore me, they weren’t being lazy, they sent me a private message REFUSEING to enforce their own rules. Since I was well versed in the FA rules regarding harassment, I did the right thing by posting in the FA forums about this. Within one hour, the forum post was deleted; not locked, deleted. Within one day, my account was banned, and I was subjected to public humiliation since then. While I did threaten a lawsuit, the supposed reasons for it are false (More on this later). By the way, I’m not a Christian anymore, so I guess the joke’s on them.<br /> <br /> === The Bestiality Rumor ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I am a zoophile.<br /> <br /> TRUTH: I am not guilty of zoophilia, and any evidence that was presented on ED was completely fabricated. I don’t know who wrote the document but it is clear from the bad spelling and laughable claims that whoever made this wanted some fun at my expense.<br /> <br /> === The Suicide Rumor ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I am/was suicidal.<br /> <br /> TRUTH: This one was surprising, considering how fast it spread. It started shortly before Anthrocon. After AC, pics of me were popping up saying “He’s still alive guys” and stuff like that. It’s the only rumor about me that ended before I even heard about it. It still pops up every once in a while. Apparently minding my own business is the same thing as being dead according to the internet.<br /> <br /> === The Murder Rumors ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I have a list of people to kill<br /> <br /> TRUTH: While having a list is handy, one of that nature serves me no purpose.<br /> <br /> === More Murder Rumors ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I attempted to assassinate former president Bill Clinton.<br /> <br /> TRUTH: The former president came to my college campus campaigning for Hillary. The details of this rumor involve me getting tackled by the secret service for running across campus with something hidden under my coat. What I was carrying was a megaphone, I was later told the college staff that I was not allowed to have it, I handed it over and it was returned to me after Clinton left.<br /> <br /> === The &quot;Retarded&quot; Rumor ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I believe in God because I’m schizophrenic.<br /> <br /> TRUTH: Religion is not a mental illness, deal with it.<br /> <br /> === The Brainwashing Rumor ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I was raped/brainwashed by a priest as a kid.<br /> <br /> TRUTH: Baptists don’t have priests, they have pastors. And according to the CIA, brainwashing is [http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/lsd/marks8.htm not possible]. I didn’t start practicing Christianity until I was around 10. I stopped practicing at age 22 when I was blackmailed by Insane Kangaroo.<br /> == Why did this happen? ==<br /> === Why does everyone say I “hate” gays? ===<br /> This one I can chock up to being something called a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecutory_delusion persecution complex]. On furaffinity, I have only mentioned homosexuality ONCE and that was because someone asked me about it. Here is what happened (note: this isn’t paraphrased):<br /> Other furry: “I’m just curious, what is your opinion on gay marriage”<br /> Me: “The Bible says it’s a sin, so that’s what I believe”<br /> Other furry: “OMG HOW DARE YOU YOU’RE A HATEFUL BIGOT”<br /> Since homosexuality is not an issue I really care that much about, I chose never to talk about it that much. It was never an issue with me, but was always an issue with them. So this whole homophobia myth is rooted in furries who couldn’t keep their mouths shut. My “crime” is simply giving an opinion when I was asked.<br /> === Why did I threaten to “sue” furaffinity? ===<br /> One of the biggest mistakes I made was joining furaffinity in the first place. Had I known how intolerant everyone was of Christians, I would have saved myself a world of hurt and humiliation. But other than that, none of what happened was my fault.<br /> “A user may not intentionally harass, slander, or disrupt another user of the site, <br /> or, through inaction, allow another user to come to be harassed.” <br /> So we know from this rule, Insane Kangaroo was intentionally violating the FA rules by harassing me, and the administrators Xearun and TSAwolf were also violating the rules by allowing me to be harassed (note that the [http://help.furaffinity.net/article/AA-01065/0/Code-of-Conduct-COC.html rules] have changed since then). Before I was banned I received about 80 messages a day on FA, on average 78-79 of them were death threats, people blaspheming and attacking Christianity, calling me a NAZI, and even threatening my family. The most shocking part is that some of this hate came from the admins! To my knowledge NOT ONE USER who threatened me was punished. Not surprisingly, Insane Kangaroo was friends with Dragoneer for a while, which means the deck was stacked against me. Luckily, Dragoneer knows better now. My attempt to “sue” FA was simply an empty threat I made out of desperation. In the end it worked, the offending submissions were removed. I could have prevented all of this by staying away from FA, and Dragoneer could have prevented this by simply doing the job he was morally obligated to do.<br /> === Why does everyone call me a “catfucker”? ===<br /> This is basically the furry version of Godwins law, if someone disagrees with you, they must be a zoophile. The term is probably derived from the old anti-furry slur “[[skunkfucker]]” from the 1980’s. Skunk was clearly changed cat because my fursona is a cat. If you pay attention to furry behavior, furries extrapolate conclusions based on the most flimsy evidence. All they have is a phony document and a few Photoshop hack jobs found on ED (a site known for making off the wall claims). FAF administrator [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/chase Chase] and popular artist/coder [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/zaush Zaush] are other examples of how furries affirm the consequent.<br /> === Why does everyone think I’m clinically retarded? ===<br /> This is another case of affirming the consequent. Their train of thought goes like this: “Belief in God is illogical, you are a creationist, therefore, you are stupid.&quot;<br /> === If your ban was unfair, why wasn’t it overturned? ===<br /> Many of my friends on FA saw fit to stand up for me in the one place I can’t. Unfortunately, they did so without my prior permission, and even against my expressed wishes. I don’t mind when someone defends me, but what happened was full on White-Knighting, and that is not something I condone. Trying to defend yourself on the website you’ve been banned from for years is already and uphill battle, but it’s made worse when misguided friends appoint themselves as a defense attorney when they don’t know what their client is accused of.<br /> === What about you and Dragoneer? ===<br /> Things have always been tense between us. Despite that, Dragoneer has put up with multiple appeals to unban me from furaffintiy and let bygones be bygones. Unfortunately, every single one of these ended badly (none of which were Dragoneers fault). Then, at Anthrocon 2011, he came to me in person and said since I was a good boy at FA:United, my account would be unbanned in three months. Nearly two years later (yes I’m that patient), nothing happened. So I enquired to Dragoneer via email why nothing has happened. His response was depressing and petty:<br /> “I really didn't see a reason to unban your account since your decision was to insult the offer after we tried to be polite and reach out.”<br /> The “insult” he is referring to is a joke I told about inkbunny. This is what I said:<br /> “Well, it’s ok if you decide not to unban me ‘cause Inkbunny has better porn anyway”. <br /> The obvious joke was that since I think IB is superior (I don’t) I must be a pedophile with an interest in Cub Porn. The joke was so obvious that Dragoneers [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/sciggles fiancé] (who is now his wife) actually burst out laughing. There is no way he could have misinterpreted what I said, so it’s clear he was just looking for an excuse to keep me off his website. Either way, he and I are on friendly enough terms that he allows me to attend FA:United every year, and since I rather enjoy that convention, I take that as a good gesture.<br /> === What about you and Insane Kangaroo? ===<br /> There’s no way I can say this kindly; IK is a criminal, a bigot, and a bully. He has personally harassed my family, and my college professors, all under the delusion that he was “helping” me. He tried to report me to the police TWICE for bestiality (I suspect he even wrote the fake “confession”) His attempt at a flash mob at Anthrocon resulted in me reporting him to security, one month later, he was banned. Eventually, I finally managed to report him to the FBI for the blackmail I was living under for almost a year, and I was told he lost his job as a result. He is now one of the most hated furries in the fandom. Since Insane Kangaroo cannot compete with the long arm of the law, his harassment of me (which still continues to this day) is reduced to nothing more than lame trolling attempts. It is no exaggeration that all of the suffering I have endured is his fault.<br /> == Conclusion ==<br /> For a long time, I tried to ignore all that happened to me and not dwell on the past. It hasn’t worked. I have this painful desire to get this off my chest because I noticed most people only seem to have one side of the story. I hear people murmuring about me when they think I’m out of earshot, I want to speak for myself instead of having a nameless anonymous collective source seizing my identity and corrupting people's perception of who I am before they ever get a chance to meet me. What made the fandom fun in the first place has been taken from me. It hurts myself and it hurts others by forcing them to judge me without ever meeting me. I leave you with this quote about me from an anonymous furry I never met. This is what an unbiased view looks like, when I think of the Furry Fandom, I think of this:<br /> “All these people keep saying what a terrible person Crusader Cat is. <br /> Yet I have yet to hear a single person come forward and say there were mistreated by him. <br /> Heck, I’ve been at parties where he’s been present. He kept to himself and didn’t bother anyone. <br /> Socially awkward? Perhaps. Deserving of scorn? Hardly.”</div>

Crusader Cat //en.wikifur.com/wiki/User:Crusader_Cat 2015-03-22T02:53:29Z

<p>Crusader Cat: Blanked the page</p> <hr /> <div></div>

Crusader Cat //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Crusader_Cat 2015-03-21T20:18:50Z

<p>Crusader Cat: </p> <hr /> <div>{{unreferenced}}<br /> [[File:Crusader Cat at Anthrocon 2009.jpg|thumb|Crusader Cat in his [[fursuit]] at Anthrocon 2009 with [[Kevin Burkhardt]].]]<br /> [[File:Crusader_cat_at_delaware_furbowl_51.jpg|thumb|Crusader Cat at the Delaware Furbowl]]<br /> '''Crusader Cat''' is a [[fursuiter]], [[writer]] and [[actor]] who lives in [[W:Alabama|Alabama]], USA.<br /> <br /> == Biography ==<br /> <br /> Crusader Cat was an [[W:Independent Baptist|Independent Baptist]], advocating [[W:King_James_Only_movement|King James only movement]], and was criticial [[W:C.S. Lewis|C.S. Lewis]]' ''[[Chronicles of Narnia]]'', and [[W:Christian rock|Christian rock]]. He is a published playwright, musical theatre actor, and [[W:Bagpipe|bagpiper]].<br /> <br /> == Fandom involvement ==<br /> <br /> Crusader Cat was introduced to the [[furry fandom]] when he was seventeen, after discovering furry [[pornography]]. As a result, he became fiercely [[anti-furry]], believing it was some sort of [[bestiality]] cult. At the age of twenty, after discovering and contacting other [[Christian furries]], he learned of the diversity of the fandom, and later concluded that being a furry didn't contradict his Christian beliefs. <br /> <br /> On March 20, 2008, he decided that becoming a furry could help him deal with some of his issues regarding sexuality, while at the same time providing an opportunity to promote his beliefs. At [[Anthrocon 2008]] he experimented with this by creating [[anthropomorphic]] [[W:Jack T. Chick|Jack Chick]] style [[literature|tracts]], which he distributed at the convention. He has since renounced his religious affiliation.<br /> <br /> === Fursona ===<br /> <br /> Crusader Cat's [[fursona]] is a brown house [[cat]] with a blond salad-bowl haircut, and is most commonly depicted wearing a medieval knight outfit or orange [[W:NASA|NASA]] inspired jumpsuit.<br /> <br /> === Convention attendant ===<br /> <br /> * [[Anthrocon]] - 2008, 2009, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014<br /> * [[FWA|Furry Weekend Atlanta]] - 2010-2011<br /> * [[MFM|Mephit Furmeet]] - 2010<br /> * [[New Year's Furry Ball]] - 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013<br /> * [[Furstivus]] - 2011<br /> * [[Delaware Furbowl]] - 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014<br /> * [[FA: United]] - 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014<br /> * [[Furfright]] - 2012<br /> <br /> == Controversy ==<br /> <br /> In 2009, Crusader Cat was banned from [[Fur Affinity]] after threatening legal action against the site, under the belief that the FA staff were not taking his harassment issues regarding several users{{who}} seriously,{{fact}} or were ignoring these trouble tickets outright due to his religious beliefs.{{fact}}.<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> {{Contributor}}<br /> * [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/CrusaderCat/ Crusader Cat] on [[Fur Affinity]] (banned)<br /> <br /> {{person-stub}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:People]]<br /> [[Category:Writers]]<br /> [[Category:Fursuiters]]<br /> [[Category:Cat characters]]<br /> [[Category:1987 births]]</div>

Crusader Cat //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Crusader_Cat 2014-11-19T15:56:10Z

<p>Crusader Cat: </p> <hr /> <div>{{unreferenced}}<br /> [[File:Crusader Cat at Anthrocon 2009.jpg|thumb|Crusader Cat in his [[fursuit]] at Anthrocon 2009 with [[Kevin Burkhardt]].]]<br /> [[File:Crusader_cat_at_delaware_furbowl_51.jpg|thumb|Crusader Cat at the Delaware Furbowl]]<br /> '''Crusader Cat''' is a [[fursuiter]], [[writer]] and [[actor]] who lives in [[W:New Jersey|New Jersey]], USA.<br /> <br /> == Biography ==<br /> <br /> Crusader Cat was an [[W:Independent Baptist|Independent Baptist]], advocating [[W:King_James_Only_movement|King James only movement]], and was criticial [[W:C.S. Lewis|C.S. Lewis]]' ''[[Chronicles of Narnia]]'', and [[W:Christian rock|Christian rock]]. He is a published playwright, musical theatre actor, and [[W:Bagpipe|bagpiper]].<br /> <br /> == Fandom involvement ==<br /> <br /> Crusader Cat was introduced to the [[furry fandom]] when he was seventeen, after discovering furry [[pornography]]. As a result, he became fiercely [[anti-furry]], believing it was some sort of [[bestiality]] cult. At the age of twenty, after discovering and contacting other [[Christian furries]], he learned of the diversity of the fandom, and later concluded that being a furry didn't contradict his Christian beliefs. <br /> <br /> On March 20, 2008, he decided that becoming a furry could help him deal with some of his issues regarding sexuality, while at the same time providing an opportunity to promote his beliefs. At [[Anthrocon 2008]] he experimented with this by creating [[anthropomorphic]] [[W:Jack T. Chick|Jack Chick]] style [[literature|tracts]], which he distributed at the convention. He has since renounced his religious affiliation.<br /> <br /> === Fursona ===<br /> <br /> Crusader Cat's [[fursona]] is a brown house [[cat]] with a blond salad-bowl haircut, and is most commonly depicted wearing a medieval knight outfit or orange [[W:NASA|NASA]] inspired jumpsuit.<br /> <br /> === Convention attendant ===<br /> <br /> * [[Anthrocon]] - 2008, 2009, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014<br /> * [[FWA|Furry Weekend Atlanta]] - 2010-2011<br /> * [[MFM|Mephit Furmeet]] - 2010<br /> * [[New Year's Furry Ball]] - 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013<br /> * [[Furstivus]] - 2011<br /> * [[Delaware Furbowl]] - 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014<br /> * [[FA: United]] - 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014<br /> * [[Furfright]] - 2012<br /> <br /> == Controversy ==<br /> <br /> In 2009, Crusader Cat was banned from [[Fur Affinity]] after threatening legal action against the site, under the belief that the FA staff were not taking his harassment issues regarding several users{{who}} seriously,{{fact}} or were ignoring these trouble tickets outright due to his religious beliefs.{{fact}}.<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> {{Contributor}}<br /> * [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/CrusaderCat/ Crusader Cat] on [[Fur Affinity]] (banned)<br /> <br /> {{person-stub}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:People]]<br /> [[Category:Writers]]<br /> [[Category:Fursuiters]]<br /> [[Category:Cat characters]]<br /> [[Category:1987 births]]</div>

Crusader Cat //en.wikifur.com/wiki/User:Crusader_Cat 2014-09-09T01:51:43Z

<p>Crusader Cat: </p> <hr /> <div>There is no God, only hate.</div>

Crusader Cat //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Crusader_Cat 2014-08-31T00:17:06Z

<p>Crusader Cat: </p> <hr /> <div>{{unreferenced}}<br /> [[File:Crusader Cat at Anthrocon 2009.jpg|thumb|Crusader Cat in his [[fursuit]] at Anthrocon 2009 with [[Kevin Burkhardt]].]]<br /> [[File:Crusader_cat_at_delaware_furbowl_51.jpg|thumb|Crusader Cat at the Delaware Furbowl]]<br /> '''Crusader Cat''' is a [[fursuiter]], [[writer]] and [[actor]].<br /> <br /> == Biography ==<br /> <br /> Crusader Cat was an [[W:Independent Baptist|Independent Baptist]], advocating [[W:King_James_Only_movement|King James only movement]], and was criticial [[W:C.S. Lewis|C.S. Lewis]]' ''[[Chronicles of Narnia]]'', and [[W:Christian rock|Christian rock]]. He is a published playwright, musical theatre actor, and [[W:Bagpipe|bagpiper]].<br /> <br /> == Fandom involvement ==<br /> <br /> Crusader Cat was introduced to the [[furry fandom]] when he was seventeen, after discovering furry [[pornography]]. As a result, he became fiercely [[anti-furry]], believing it was some sort of [[bestiality]] cult. At the age of twenty, after discovering and contacting other [[Christian furries]], he learned of the diversity of the fandom, and later concluded that being a furry didn't contradict his Christian beliefs. <br /> <br /> On March 20, 2008, he decided that becoming a furry could help him deal with some of his issues regarding sexuality, while at the same time providing an opportunity to promote his beliefs. At [[Anthrocon 2008]] he experimented with this by creating [[anthropomorphic]] [[W:Jack T. Chick|Jack Chick]] style [[literature|tracts]], which he distributed at the convention. He has since renounced his religious affiliation.<br /> <br /> === Fursona ===<br /> <br /> Crusader Cat's [[fursona]] is a brown house [[cat]] with a blond salad-bowl haircut, and is most commonly depicted wearing a medieval knight outfit or orange [[W:NASA|NASA]] inspired jumpsuit.<br /> <br /> === Convention attendant ===<br /> <br /> * [[Anthrocon]] - 2008, 2009, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014<br /> * [[FWA|Furry Weekend Atlanta]] - 2010-2011<br /> * [[MFM|Mephit Furmeet]] - 2010<br /> * [[New Year's Furry Ball]] - 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013<br /> * [[Furstivus]] - 2011<br /> * [[Delaware Furbowl]] - 2011, 2012, 2013<br /> * [[FA: United]] - 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014<br /> * [[Furfright]] - 2012<br /> <br /> == Controversy ==<br /> <br /> In 2009, Crusader Cat was banned from [[Fur Affinity]] after threatening legal action against the site, under the belief that the FA staff were not taking his harassment issues regarding several users{{who}} seriously,{{fact}} or were ignoring these trouble tickets outright due to his religious beliefs.{{fact}}.<br /> <br /> == References ==<br /> &lt;references/&gt;<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> {{Contributor}}<br /> * [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/CrusaderCat/ Crusader Cat] on Furaffinity (banned)<br /> <br /> {{person-stub}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:People]]<br /> [[Category:Writers]]<br /> [[Category:Fursuiters]]<br /> [[Category:Cat characters]]<br /> [[Category:1987 births]]</div>

Crusader Cat //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Crusader_Cat 2014-08-21T19:57:35Z

<p>Crusader Cat: </p> <hr /> <div>{{unreferenced}}<br /> [[File:Crusader Cat at Anthrocon 2009.jpg|thumb|Crusader Cat in his [[fursuit]] at Anthrocon 2009 with [[Kevin Burkhardt]].]]<br /> [[File:Crusader_cat_at_delaware_furbowl_51.jpg|thumb|Crusader Cat at the Delaware Furbowl]]<br /> '''Crusader Cat''' is a [[fursuiter]], [[writer]] and [[actor]].<br /> <br /> == Biography ==<br /> <br /> Crusader Cat was an [[W:Independent Baptist|Independent Baptist]], advocating [[W:King_James_Only_movement|King James only movement]], and was criticial [[W:C.S. Lewis|C.S. Lewis]]' ''[[Chronicles of Narnia]]'', and [[W:Christian rock|Christian rock]]. He is a published playwright, musical theatre actor, and [[W:Bagpipe|bagpiper]].<br /> <br /> == Fandom involvement ==<br /> <br /> Crusader Cat was introduced to the [[furry fandom]] when he was seventeen, after discovering furry [[pornography]]. As a result, he became fiercely [[anti-furry]], believing it was some sort of [[bestiality]] cult. At the age of twenty, after discovering and contacting other [[Christian furries]], he learned of the diversity of the fandom, and later concluded that being a furry didn't contradict his Christian beliefs. <br /> <br /> On March 20, 2008, he decided that becoming a furry could help him deal with some of his issues regarding sexuality, while at the same time providing an opportunity to promote his beliefs. At [[Anthrocon 2008]] he experimented with this by creating [[anthropomorphic]] [[W:Jack T. Chick|Jack Chick]] style [[literature|tracts]], which he distributed at the convention. He has since renounced his religious affiliation.<br /> <br /> === Fursona ===<br /> <br /> Crusader Cat's [[fursona]] is a brown house [[cat]] with a blond salad-bowl haircut, and is most commonly depicted wearing a medieval knight outfit or orange [[W:NASA|NASA]] inspired jumpsuit.<br /> <br /> === Convention attendant ===<br /> <br /> * [[Anthrocon]] - 2008, 2009, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014<br /> * [[FWA|Furry Weekend Atlanta]] - 2010-2011<br /> * [[MFM|Mephit Furmeet]] - 2010<br /> * [[New Year's Furry Ball]] - 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013<br /> * [[Furstivus]] - 2011<br /> * [[Delaware Furbowl]] - 2011, 2012, 2013<br /> * [[FA: United]] - 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014<br /> * [[Furfright]] - 2012<br /> <br /> == Controversy ==<br /> <br /> In 2009, Crusader Cat was banned from [[Fur Affinity]] after threatening legal action against the site, under the belief that the FA staff were not taking his harassment issues regarding several users{{who}} seriously,{{fact}} or were ignoring these trouble tickets outright due to his religious beliefs.{{fact}}.<br /> <br /> == References ==<br /> &lt;references/&gt;<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> {{Contributor}}<br /> * [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/CrusaderCat/ Crusader Cat] on Furaffinity (banned)<br /> * [https://www.weasyl.com/~crusadercat Crusader Cat] on [[Weasyl]]<br /> <br /> {{person-stub}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:People]]<br /> [[Category:Writers]]<br /> [[Category:Fursuiters]]<br /> [[Category:Cat characters]]<br /> [[Category:1987 births]]</div>

Crusader Cat //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Crusader_Cat 2014-08-11T07:01:50Z

<p>Crusader Cat: The steam account is not mine, it appears to be a fake.</p> <hr /> <div>{{unreferenced}}<br /> [[File:Crusader Cat at Anthrocon 2009.jpg|thumb|Crusader Cat in his [[fursuit]] at Anthrocon 2009 with [[Kevin Burkhardt]].]]<br /> [[File:Crusader_cat_at_delaware_furbowl_51.jpg|thumb|Crusader Cat at the Delaware Furbowl]]<br /> '''Crusader Cat''' is a [[fursuiter]], [[writer]] and [[actor]].<br /> <br /> == Biography ==<br /> <br /> Crusader Cat was an [[W:Independent Baptist|Independent Baptist]], advocating [[W:King_James_Only_movement|King James only movement]], and was criticial [[W:C.S. Lewis|C.S. Lewis]]' ''[[Chronicles of Narnia]]'', and [[W:Christian rock|Christian rock]]. He is a published playwright, musical theatre actor, and [[W:Bagpipe|bagpiper]].<br /> <br /> == Fandom involvement ==<br /> <br /> Crusader Cat was introduced to the [[furry fandom]] when he was seventeen, after discovering furry [[pornography]]. As a result, he became fiercely [[anti-furry]], believing it was some sort of [[bestiality]] cult. At the age of twenty, after discovering and contacting other [[Christian furries]], he learned of the diversity of the fandom, and later concluded that being a furry didn't contradict his Christian beliefs. <br /> <br /> On March 20, 2008, he decided that becoming a furry could help him deal with some of his issues regarding sexuality, while at the same time providing an opportunity to promote his beliefs. At [[Anthrocon 2008]] he experimented with this by creating [[anthropomorphic]] [[W:Jack T. Chick|Jack Chick]] style [[literature|tracts]], which he distributed at the convention. He has since renounced his religious affiliation.<br /> <br /> === Fursona ===<br /> <br /> Crusader Cat's [[fursona]] is a brown house [[cat]] with a blond salad-bowl haircut, and is most commonly depicted wearing a medieval knight outfit or orange [[W:NASA|NASA]] inspired jumpsuit.<br /> <br /> === Convention attendant ===<br /> <br /> * [[Anthrocon]] - 2008, 2008, 2009, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014<br /> * [[FWA|Furry Weekend Atlanta]] - 2010-2011<br /> * [[MFM|Mephit Furmeet]] - 2010<br /> * [[New Year's Furry Ball]] - 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013<br /> * [[Furstivus]] - 2011<br /> * [[Delaware Furbowl]] - 2011, 2012, 2013<br /> * [[FA: United]] - 2011, 2012, 2013<br /> * [[Furfright]] - 2012<br /> <br /> == Controversy ==<br /> <br /> In 2009, Crusader Cat was banned from [[Fur Affinity]] after threatening legal action against the site, under the belief that the FA staff were not taking his harassment issues regarding several users{{who}} seriously,{{fact}} or were ignoring these trouble tickets outright due to his religious beliefs.{{fact}}.<br /> <br /> == References ==<br /> &lt;references/&gt;<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> {{Contributor}}<br /> * [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/CrusaderCat/ Crusader Cat] on Furaffinity (banned)<br /> * [https://www.weasyl.com/~crusadercat Crusader Cat] on [[Weasyl]]<br /> <br /> {{person-stub}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:People]]<br /> [[Category:Writers]]<br /> [[Category:Fursuiters]]<br /> [[Category:Cat characters]]<br /> [[Category:1987 births]]</div>

Crusader Cat //en.wikifur.com/wiki/User:Crusader_Cat 2014-08-11T02:23:22Z

<p>Crusader Cat: Blanked the page</p> <hr /> <div></div>

Crusader Cat //en.wikifur.com/wiki/User_talk:Crusader_Cat 2014-08-11T02:22:40Z

<p>Crusader Cat: </p> <hr /> <div>Welcome to [[WikiFur]]! Thank you for telling us about yourself. We here at [[WikiFur]] look forward to working with you. [[Forum:Help desk|Let us know]] if you need any [[help]] not already provided. If you would like help continuing to create your article or any other, don't hesitate to consult the [[Help:Furry Book of Style|Furry Book of Style]] or just contact a [[WikiFur:Administrator|administrator]] Have a nice day! :-)<br /> --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 17:53, 16 July 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Please do not remove or otherwise alter other people's comments in talk pages, either for articles or users, when they are not obvious vandalism. These discussions of the article's content act as a historical record. We may sometimes make exceptions, and I will allow the removal of the comment from [[User talk:KendricksRedtail]] since there's no apparent reason why the original comment should have been made there in the first place, but in most cases this is frowned upon. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 17:41, 18 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Need help with my page ==<br /> <br /> I'm trying to add another heading on my page with some more information, but when I add it, it removes another heading and the external links. How do I keep everything I have now and add new info? &lt;small&gt;—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Crusader Cat|Crusader Cat]] ([[User talk:Crusader Cat|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Crusader Cat|contribs]]) .&lt;/small&gt;&lt;!-- [Template:Unsigned] --&gt;<br /> :You were doing it wrong. It's &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt;, not &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;ref/&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt;. Your references were never finishing. I've fixed it up with the new section. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 03:02, 14 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Latest edit to user page (Wikifur versus personal websites) ==<br /> <br /> Wikifur is not your personal homepage. Even for an User Page, the data currently in it, the latest data (and the now deleted images) are not acceptable information (the complains is '''five times bigger''' that your Wikifur article). Please remove the non-historical/furry lore problems/grievances to an off-site website with direct reference link to this page. - [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] ([[User talk:Spirou|talk]]) 19:08, 9 August 2014 (EDT)<br /> :Since your [[Fur Affinity]] page is not accessible, this dissertation can be moved to your open [[Weasyl]] account's journal section. A redirect can then by applied to this page. - [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] ([[User talk:Spirou|talk]]) 00:44, 10 August 2014 (EDT)<br /> ::Unfortunately, since the subject in question has his own [https://www.weasyl.com/~insanekangaroo Weasyl] account (albeit hardly active) I think it would be considered harassment of another user and disallowed there just as it would here. I'll remove it as you requested. - [[user: Crusader Cat|Crusader Cat]] 16:38 10 August 2014 (EDT)<br /> :::Albeit the information having to do with the user himself, shouldn't some basic data remain for people to understand who Crusader Cat is? - {{unsigned|Hydroplane}}<br /> :::: I think Spirou was referring to my addendum about Insane Kangaroo, not the subject of my user page as a whole. - [[user: Crusader Cat|Crusader Cat]] 18:00 10 August 2014 (EDT)<br /> :::::No, as a whole, not just the latest edit (again. ''&quot;Even for an User Page, '''the data currently in it''', ''the latest data'' (and the now deleted images) are not acceptable information&quot;''). Even with the small deletion, the user page is still four times bigger than the factual article. An user page is more or less open to more personal data, as a place to test edits, prepare articles, some silly stuff, small comments/musings, temp storage of data, etc,... not this type of (long) personal complaints. If you can't/won't use Weasyl's journal, [[Tumblr]], [[Facebook]], [[Livejournal]] are quick alternatives to creating a website from scratch to place the information there ([[Twitter]] is limited to 140 characters, so it's not a place to move this whole thing too). - [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] ([[User talk:Spirou|talk]]) 19:39, 10 August 2014 (EDT)<br /> ::::::That is strange, I was told by [[user: GreenReaper|GreenReaper]] that I was allowed to place this information here, and up until now, no one seemed to have a problem. You also severely misunderstand my meaning here, my talk page is not a &quot;complaint&quot; it is an explanation of the controversy about me from my point of view. The reason I chose wikifur (as opposed to another website where I would have more control)is because wikifur has proven to me that it is unbiased and doesn't have an agenda other than providing accurate information on things related to the fandom. While I understand why latest edits would be considered controversial or even hostile, this is not true of the earlier postings. I find it rather odd that after being up for five months you only now have a problem with it. I will remove it as you requested - [[user: Crusader Cat|Crusader Cat]] 20:23 10 August 2014 (EDT)</div>

Crusader Cat //en.wikifur.com/wiki/User_talk:Crusader_Cat 2014-08-10T22:00:03Z

<p>Crusader Cat: </p> <hr /> <div>Welcome to [[WikiFur]]! Thank you for telling us about yourself. We here at [[WikiFur]] look forward to working with you. [[Forum:Help desk|Let us know]] if you need any [[help]] not already provided. If you would like help continuing to create your article or any other, don't hesitate to consult the [[Help:Furry Book of Style|Furry Book of Style]] or just contact a [[WikiFur:Administrator|administrator]] Have a nice day! :-)<br /> --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 17:53, 16 July 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Please do not remove or otherwise alter other people's comments in talk pages, either for articles or users, when they are not obvious vandalism. These discussions of the article's content act as a historical record. We may sometimes make exceptions, and I will allow the removal of the comment from [[User talk:KendricksRedtail]] since there's no apparent reason why the original comment should have been made there in the first place, but in most cases this is frowned upon. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 17:41, 18 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Need help with my page ==<br /> <br /> I'm trying to add another heading on my page with some more information, but when I add it, it removes another heading and the external links. How do I keep everything I have now and add new info? &lt;small&gt;—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Crusader Cat|Crusader Cat]] ([[User talk:Crusader Cat|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Crusader Cat|contribs]]) .&lt;/small&gt;&lt;!-- [Template:Unsigned] --&gt;<br /> :You were doing it wrong. It's &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt;, not &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;ref/&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt;. Your references were never finishing. I've fixed it up with the new section. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 03:02, 14 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Latest edit to user page (Wikifur versus personal websites) ==<br /> <br /> Wikifur is not your personal homepage. Even for an User Page, the data currently in it, the latest data (and the now deleted images) are not acceptable information (the complains is '''five times bigger''' that your Wikifur article). Please remove the non-historical/furry lore problems/grievances to an off-site website with direct reference link to this page. - [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] ([[User talk:Spirou|talk]]) 19:08, 9 August 2014 (EDT)<br /> :Since your [[Fur Affinity]] page is not accessible, this dissertation can be moved to your open [[Weasyl]] account's journal section. A redirect can then by applied to this page. - [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] ([[User talk:Spirou|talk]]) 00:44, 10 August 2014 (EDT)<br /> ::Unfortunately, since the subject in question has his own [https://www.weasyl.com/~insanekangaroo Weasyl] account (albeit hardly active) I think it would be considered harassment of another user and disallowed there just as it would here. I'll remove it as you requested. - [[user: Crusader Cat|Crusader Cat]] 16:38 10 August 2014 (EDT)<br /> :::Albeit the information having to do with the user himself, shouldn't some basic data remain for people to understand who Crusader Cat is?<br /> :::: I think Spirou was referring to my addendum about Insane Kangaroo, not the subject of my user page as a whole. - [[user: Crusader Cat|Crusader Cat]] 18:00 10 August 2014 (EDT)</div>

Crusader Cat //en.wikifur.com/wiki/User:Crusader_Cat 2014-08-10T20:47:05Z

<p>Crusader Cat: </p> <hr /> <div>I will attempt to clear up any rumors, slander, and libel that those of the “tolerant” furry community see fit to infect the internet with. First I will start a list of rumors that I am aware of, give an explanation from my perspective as to why this stuff has happened to me, and give clarification on why I feel this needs to be said.<br /> == Rumors ==<br /> === The &quot;homophobia&quot; rumor ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I hate gays, I attempted a gay genocide at Anthrocon, I support “kill the gays” laws.<br /> <br /> TRUTH: I never said anything about hating gays, and I sure as hell never threatened or attempted to harm another gay (or human being) in my life. When I look through my contact lists, I find that I don’t actually have any heterosexual friends. Specifically the claim that I attempted a “gay genocide” at Anthrocon was created by Insane Kangaroo in an ironic attempt to harm me with a flash mob he was planning.<br /> <br /> === The Furaffinity Rumor ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I threatened to sue Fur Affinity for being anti-Christian<br /> <br /> TRUTH: [[David Ross | Insane Kangaroo]] uploaded a submission of my fursona receiving anal sex with “raptor jesus” after reporting him twice, two administrators ([http://www.furaffinity.net/user/xaerun Xearun] and [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/tsawolf TSAwolf]) refused to remove them. They didn’t simply ignore me, they weren’t being lazy, they sent me a private message REFUSEING to enforce their own rules. Since I was well versed in the FA rules regarding harassment, I did the right thing by posting in the FA forums about this. Within one hour, the forum post was deleted; not locked, deleted. Within one day, my account was banned, and I was subjected to public humiliation since then. While I did threaten a lawsuit, the supposed reasons for it are false (More on this later). By the way, I’m not a Christian anymore, so I guess the joke’s on them.<br /> <br /> === The Bestiality Rumor ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I am a zoophile.<br /> <br /> TRUTH: I am not guilty of zoophilia, and any evidence that was presented on ED was completely fabricated. I don’t know who wrote the document but it is clear from the bad spelling and laughable claims that whoever made this wanted some fun at my expense.<br /> <br /> === The Suicide Rumor ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I am/was suicidal.<br /> <br /> TRUTH: This one was surprising, considering how fast it spread. It started shortly before Anthrocon. After AC, pics of me were popping up saying “He’s still alive guys” and stuff like that. It’s the only rumor about me that ended before I even heard about it. It still pops up every once in a while. Apparently minding my own business is the same thing as being dead according to the internet.<br /> <br /> === The Murder Rumors ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I have a list of people to kill<br /> <br /> TRUTH: While having a list is handy, one of that nature serves me no purpose.<br /> <br /> === More Murder Rumors ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I attempted to assassinate former president Bill Clinton.<br /> <br /> TRUTH: The former president came to my college campus campaigning for Hillary. The details of this rumor involve me getting tackled by the secret service for running across campus with something hidden under my coat. What I was carrying was a megaphone, I was later told the college staff that I was not allowed to have it, I handed it over and it was returned to me after Clinton left.<br /> <br /> === The &quot;Retarded&quot; Rumor ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I believe in God because I’m schizophrenic.<br /> <br /> TRUTH: Religion is not a mental illness, deal with it.<br /> <br /> === The Brainwashing Rumor ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I was raped/brainwashed by a priest as a kid.<br /> <br /> TRUTH: Baptists don’t have priests, they have pastors. And according to the CIA, brainwashing is [http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/lsd/marks8.htm not possible]. I didn’t start practicing Christianity until I was around 10. I stopped practicing at age 22 when I was blackmailed by Insane Kangaroo.<br /> == Why did this happen? ==<br /> === Why does everyone say I “hate” gays? ===<br /> This one I can chock up to being something called a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecutory_delusion persecution complex]. On furaffinity, I have only mentioned homosexuality ONCE and that was because someone asked me about it. Here is what happened (note: this isn’t paraphrased):<br /> Other furry: “I’m just curious, what is your opinion on gay marriage”<br /> Me: “The Bible says it’s a sin, so that’s what I believe”<br /> Other furry: “OMG HOW DARE YOU YOU’RE A HATEFUL BIGOT”<br /> Since homosexuality is not an issue I really care that much about, I chose never to talk about it that much. It was never an issue with me, but was always an issue with them. So this whole homophobia myth is rooted in furries who couldn’t keep their mouths shut. My “crime” is simply giving an opinion when I was asked.<br /> === Why did I threaten to “sue” furaffinity? ===<br /> One of the biggest mistakes I made was joining furaffinity in the first place. Had I known how intolerant everyone was of Christians, I would have saved myself a world of hurt and humiliation. But other than that, none of what happened was my fault.<br /> “A user may not intentionally harass, slander, or disrupt another user of the site, <br /> or, through inaction, allow another user to come to be harassed.” <br /> So we know from this rule, Insane Kangaroo was intentionally violating the FA rules by harassing me, and the administrators Xearun and TSAwolf were also violating the rules by allowing me to be harassed (note that the [http://help.furaffinity.net/article/AA-01065/0/Code-of-Conduct-COC.html rules] have changed since then). Before I was banned I received about 80 messages a day on FA, on average 78-79 of them were death threats, people blaspheming and attacking Christianity, calling me a NAZI, and even threatening my family. The most shocking part is that some of this hate came from the admins! To my knowledge NOT ONE USER who threatened me was punished. Not surprisingly, Insane Kangaroo was friends with Dragoneer for a while, which means the deck was stacked against me. Luckily, Dragoneer knows better now. My attempt to “sue” FA was simply an empty threat I made out of desperation. In the end it worked, the offending submissions were removed. I could have prevented all of this by staying away from FA, and Dragoneer could have prevented this by simply doing the job he was morally obligated to do.<br /> === Why does everyone call me a “catfucker”? ===<br /> This is basically the furry version of Godwins law, if someone disagrees with you, they must be a zoophile. The term is probably derived from the old anti-furry slur “[[skunkfucker]]” from the 1980’s. Skunk was clearly changed cat because my fursona is a cat. If you pay attention to furry behavior, furries extrapolate conclusions based on the most flimsy evidence. All they have is a phony document and a few Photoshop hack jobs found on ED (a site known for making off the wall claims). FAF administrator [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/chase Chase] and popular artist/coder [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/zaush Zaush] are other examples of how furries affirm the consequent.<br /> === Why does everyone think I’m clinically retarded? ===<br /> This is another case of affirming the consequent. Their train of thought goes like this: “Belief in God is illogical, you are a creationist, therefore, you are stupid.&quot;<br /> === If your ban was unfair, why wasn’t it overturned? ===<br /> Many of my friends on FA saw fit to stand up for me in the one place I can’t. Unfortunately, they did so without my prior permission, and even against my expressed wishes. I don’t mind when someone defends me, but what happened was full on White-Knighting, and that is not something I condone. Trying to defend yourself on the website you’ve been banned from for years is already and uphill battle, but it’s made worse when misguided friends appoint themselves as a defense attorney when they don’t know what their client is accused of.<br /> === What about you and Dragoneer? ===<br /> Things have always been tense between us. Despite that, Dragoneer has put up with multiple appeals to unban me from furaffintiy and let bygones be bygones. Unfortunately, every single one of these ended badly (none of which were Dragoneers fault). Then, at Anthrocon 2011, he came to me in person and said since I was a good boy at FA:United, my account would be unbanned in three months. Nearly two years later (yes I’m that patient), nothing happened. So I enquired to Dragoneer via email why nothing has happened. His response was depressing and petty:<br /> “I really didn't see a reason to unban your account since your decision was to insult the offer after we tried to be polite and reach out.”<br /> The “insult” he is referring to is a joke I told about inkbunny. This is what I said:<br /> “Well, it’s ok if you decide not to unban me ‘cause Inkbunny has better porn anyway”. <br /> The obvious joke was that since I think IB is superior (I don’t) I must be a pedophile with an interest in Cub Porn. The joke was so obvious that Dragoneers [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/sciggles fiancé] (who is now his wife) actually burst out laughing. There is no way he could have misinterpreted what I said, so it’s clear he was just looking for an excuse to keep me off his website. Either way, he and I are on friendly enough terms that he allows me to attend FA:United every year, and since I rather enjoy that convention, I take that as a good gesture.<br /> === What about you and Insane Kangaroo? ===<br /> There’s no way I can say this kindly; IK is a criminal, a bigot, and a bully. He has personally harassed my family, and my college professors, all under the delusion that he was “helping” me. He tried to report me to the police TWICE for bestiality (I suspect he even wrote the fake “confession”) His attempt at a flash mob at Anthrocon resulted in me reporting him to security, one month later, he was banned. Eventually, I finally managed to report him to the FBI for the blackmail I was living under for almost a year, and I was told he lost his job as a result. He is now one of the most hated furries in the fandom. Since Insane Kangaroo cannot compete with the long arm of the law, his harassment of me (which still continues to this day) is reduced to nothing more than lame trolling attempts. It is no exaggeration that all of the suffering I have endured is his fault.<br /> == Conclusion ==<br /> For a long time, I tried to ignore all that happened to me and not dwell on the past. It hasn’t worked. I have this painful desire to get this off my chest because I noticed most people only seem to have one side of the story. I hear people murmuring about me when they think I’m out of earshot, I want to speak for myself instead of having a nameless anonymous collective source seizing my identity and corrupting people's perception of who I am before they ever get a chance to meet me. What made the fandom fun in the first place has been taken from me. It hurts myself and it hurts others by forcing them to judge me without ever meeting me. I leave you with this quote about me from an anonymous furry I never met. This is what an unbiased view looks like, when I think of the Furry Fandom, I think of this:<br /> “All these people keep saying what a terrible person Crusader Cat is. <br /> Yet I have yet to hear a single person come forward and say there were mistreated by him. <br /> Heck, I’ve been at parties where he’s been present. He kept to himself and didn’t bother anyone. <br /> Socially awkward? Perhaps. Deserving of scorn? Hardly.”</div>

Crusader Cat //en.wikifur.com/wiki/User:Crusader_Cat 2014-08-10T20:45:38Z

<p>Crusader Cat: </p> <hr /> <div>I will attempt to clear up any rumors, slander, and libel that those of the “tolerant” furry community see fit to infect the internet with. First I will start a list of rumors that I am aware of, give an explanation from my perspective as to why this stuff has happened to me, and give clarification on why I feel this needs to be said.<br /> == Rumors ==<br /> === The &quot;homophobia&quot; rumor ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I hate gays, I attempted a gay genocide at Anthrocon, I support “kill the gays” laws.<br /> <br /> TRUTH: I never said anything about hating gays, and I sure as hell never threatened or attempted to harm another gay (or human being) in my life. When I look through my contact lists, I find that I don’t actually have any heterosexual friends. Specifically the claim that I attempted a “gay genocide” at Anthrocon was created by Insane Kangaroo in an ironic attempt to harm me with a flash mob he was planning.<br /> <br /> === The Furaffinity Rumor ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I threatened to sue Fur Affinity for being anti-Christian<br /> <br /> TRUTH: [[David Ross | Insane Kangaroo]] uploaded a submission of my fursona receiving anal sex with “raptor jesus” after reporting him twice, two administrators ([http://www.furaffinity.net/user/xaerun Xearun] and [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/tsawolf TSAwolf]) refused to remove them. They didn’t simply ignore me, they weren’t being lazy, they sent me a private message REFUSEING to enforce their own rules. Since I was well versed in the FA rules regarding harassment, I did the right thing by posting in the FA forums about this. Within one hour, the forum post was deleted; not locked, deleted. Within one day, my account was banned, and I was subjected to public humiliation since then. While I did threaten a lawsuit, the supposed reasons for it are false (More on this later). By the way, I’m not a Christian anymore, so I guess the joke’s on them.<br /> <br /> === The Bestiality Rumor ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I am a zoophile.<br /> <br /> TRUTH: I am not guilty of zoophilia, and any evidence that was presented on ED was completely fabricated. I don’t know who wrote the document but it is clear from the bad spelling and laughable claims that whoever made this wanted some fun at my expense.<br /> <br /> === The Suicide Rumor ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I am/was suicidal.<br /> <br /> TRUTH: This one was surprising, considering how fast it spread. It started shortly before Anthrocon. After AC, pics of me were popping up saying “He’s still alive guys” and stuff like that. It’s the only rumor about me that ended before I even heard about it. It still pops up every once in a while. Apparently minding my own business is the same thing as being dead according to the internet.<br /> <br /> === The Murder Rumors ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I have a list of people to kill<br /> <br /> TRUTH: While having a list is handy, one of that nature serves me no purpose.<br /> <br /> === More Murder Rumors ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I attempted to assassinate former president Bill Clinton.<br /> <br /> TRUTH: The former president came to my college campus campaigning for Hillary. The details of this rumor involve me getting tackled by the secret service for running across campus with something hidden under my coat. What I was carrying was a megaphone, I was later told the college staff that I was not allowed to have it, I handed it over and it was returned to me after Clinton left.<br /> <br /> === The &quot;Retarded&quot; Rumor ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I believe in God because I’m schizophrenic.<br /> <br /> TRUTH: Religion is not a mental illness, deal with it.<br /> <br /> === The Brainwashing Rumor ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I was raped/brainwashed by a priest as a kid.<br /> <br /> TRUTH: Baptists don’t have priests, they have pastors. And according to the CIA, brainwashing is [http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/lsd/marks8.htm not possible]. I didn’t start practicing Christianity until I was around 10. I stopped practicing at age 22 when I was blackmailed by Insane Kangaroo.<br /> == Why did this happen? ==<br /> === Why does everyone say I “hate” gays? ===<br /> This one I can chock up to being something called a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecutory_delusion persecution complex]. On furaffinity, I have only mentioned homosexuality ONCE and that was because someone asked me about it. Here is what happened (note: this isn’t paraphrased):<br /> Other furry: “I’m just curious, what is your opinion on gay marriage”<br /> Me: “The Bible says it’s a sin, so that’s what I believe”<br /> Other furry: “OMG HOW DARE YOU YOU’RE A HATEFUL BIGOT”<br /> Since homosexuality is not an issue I really care that much about, I chose never to talk about it that much. It was never an issue with me, but was always an issue with them. So this whole homophobia myth is rooted in furries who couldn’t keep their mouths shut. My “crime” is simply giving an opinion when I was asked.<br /> === Why did I threaten to “sue” furaffinity? ===<br /> One of the biggest mistakes I made was joining furaffinity in the first place. Had I known how intolerant everyone was of Christians, I would have saved myself a world of hurt and humiliation. But other than that, none of what happened was my fault.<br /> “A user may not intentionally harass, slander, or disrupt another user of the site, or, through inaction, allow another user to come to be harassed.” <br /> So we know from this rule, Insane Kangaroo was intentionally violating the FA rules by harassing me, and the administrators Xearun and TSAwolf were also violating the rules by allowing me to be harassed (note that the [http://help.furaffinity.net/article/AA-01065/0/Code-of-Conduct-COC.html rules] have changed since then). Before I was banned I received about 80 messages a day on FA, on average 78-79 of them were death threats, people blaspheming and attacking Christianity, calling me a NAZI, and even threatening my family. The most shocking part is that some of this hate came from the admins! To my knowledge NOT ONE USER who threatened me was punished. Not surprisingly, Insane Kangaroo was friends with Dragoneer for a while, which means the deck was stacked against me. Luckily, Dragoneer knows better now. My attempt to “sue” FA was simply an empty threat I made out of desperation. In the end it worked, the offending submissions were removed. I could have prevented all of this by staying away from FA, and Dragoneer could have prevented this by simply doing the job he was morally obligated to do.<br /> === Why does everyone call me a “catfucker”? ===<br /> This is basically the furry version of Godwins law, if someone disagrees with you, they must be a zoophile. The term is probably derived from the old anti-furry slur “[[skunkfucker]]” from the 1980’s. Skunk was clearly changed cat because my fursona is a cat. If you pay attention to furry behavior, furries extrapolate conclusions based on the most flimsy evidence. All they have is a phony document and a few Photoshop hack jobs found on ED (a site known for making off the wall claims). FAF administrator [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/chase Chase] and popular artist/coder [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/zaush Zaush] are other examples of how furries affirm the consequent.<br /> === Why does everyone think I’m clinically retarded? ===<br /> This is another case of affirming the consequent. Their train of thought goes like this: “Belief in God is illogical, you are a creationist, therefore, you are stupid.&quot;<br /> === If your ban was unfair, why wasn’t it overturned? ===<br /> Many of my friends on FA saw fit to stand up for me in the one place I can’t. Unfortunately, they did so without my prior permission, and even against my expressed wishes. I don’t mind when someone defends me, but what happened was full on White-Knighting, and that is not something I condone. Trying to defend yourself on the website you’ve been banned from for years is already and uphill battle, but it’s made worse when misguided friends appoint themselves as a defense attorney when they don’t know what their client is accused of.<br /> === What about you and Dragoneer? ===<br /> Things have always been tense between us. Despite that, Dragoneer has put up with multiple appeals to unban me from furaffintiy and let bygones be bygones. Unfortunately, every single one of these ended badly (none of which were Dragoneers fault). Then, at Anthrocon 2011, he came to me in person and said since I was a good boy at FA:United, my account would be unbanned in three months. Nearly two years later (yes I’m that patient), nothing happened. So I enquired to Dragoneer via email why nothing has happened. His response was depressing and petty:<br /> “I really didn't see a reason to unban your account since your decision was to insult the offer after we tried to be polite and reach out.”<br /> The “insult” he is referring to is a joke I told about inkbunny. This is what I said:<br /> “Well, it’s ok if you decide not to unban me ‘cause Inkbunny has better porn anyway”. <br /> The obvious joke was that since I think IB is superior (I don’t) I must be a pedophile with an interest in Cub Porn. The joke was so obvious that Dragoneers [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/sciggles fiancé] (who is now his wife) actually burst out laughing. There is no way he could have misinterpreted what I said, so it’s clear he was just looking for an excuse to keep me off his website. Either way, he and I are on friendly enough terms that he allows me to attend FA:United every year, and since I rather enjoy that convention, I take that as a good gesture.<br /> === What about you and Insane Kangaroo? ===<br /> There’s no way I can say this kindly; IK is a criminal, a bigot, and a bully. He has personally harassed my family, and my college professors, all under the delusion that he was “helping” me. He tried to report me to the police TWICE for bestiality (I suspect he even wrote the fake “confession”) His attempt at a flash mob at Anthrocon resulted in me reporting him to security, one month later, he was banned. Eventually, I finally managed to report him to the FBI for the blackmail I was living under for almost a year, and I was told he lost his job as a result. He is now one of the most hated furries in the fandom. Since Insane Kangaroo cannot compete with the long arm of the law, his harassment of me (which still continues to this day) is reduced to nothing more than lame trolling attempts. It is no exaggeration that all of the suffering I have endured is his fault.<br /> == Conclusion ==<br /> For a long time, I tried to ignore all that happened to me and not dwell on the past. It hasn’t worked. I have this painful desire to get this off my chest because I noticed most people only seem to have one side of the story. I hear people murmuring about me when they think I’m out of earshot, I want to speak for myself instead of having a nameless anonymous collective source seizing my identity and corrupting people's perception of who I am before they ever get a chance to meet me. What made the fandom fun in the first place has been taken from me. It hurts myself and it hurts others by forcing them to judge me without ever meeting me. I leave you with this quote about me from an anonymous furry I never met. This is what an unbiased view looks like, when I think of the Furry Fandom, I think of this:<br /> “All these people keep saying what a terrible person Crusader Cat is. Yet I have yet to hear a single person come forward and say there were mistreated by him. Heck, I’ve been at parties where he’s been present. He kept to himself and didn’t bother anyone. Socially awkward? Perhaps. Deserving of scorn? Hardly.”</div>

Crusader Cat //en.wikifur.com/wiki/User:Crusader_Cat 2014-08-10T20:45:04Z

<p>Crusader Cat: </p> <hr /> <div>I will attempt to clear up any rumors, slander, and libel that those of the “tolerant” furry community see fit to spread about me. First I will start a list of rumors that I am aware of, give an explanation from my perspective as to why this stuff has happened to me, and give clarification on why I feel this needs to be said.<br /> == Rumors ==<br /> === The &quot;homophobia&quot; rumor ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I hate gays, I attempted a gay genocide at Anthrocon, I support “kill the gays” laws.<br /> <br /> TRUTH: I never said anything about hating gays, and I sure as hell never threatened or attempted to harm another gay (or human being) in my life. When I look through my contact lists, I find that I don’t actually have any heterosexual friends. Specifically the claim that I attempted a “gay genocide” at Anthrocon was created by Insane Kangaroo in an ironic attempt to harm me with a flash mob he was planning.<br /> <br /> === The Furaffinity Rumor ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I threatened to sue Fur Affinity for being anti-Christian<br /> <br /> TRUTH: [[David Ross | Insane Kangaroo]] uploaded a submission of my fursona receiving anal sex with “raptor jesus” after reporting him twice, two administrators ([http://www.furaffinity.net/user/xaerun Xearun] and [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/tsawolf TSAwolf]) refused to remove them. They didn’t simply ignore me, they weren’t being lazy, they sent me a private message REFUSEING to enforce their own rules. Since I was well versed in the FA rules regarding harassment, I did the right thing by posting in the FA forums about this. Within one hour, the forum post was deleted; not locked, deleted. Within one day, my account was banned, and I was subjected to public humiliation since then. While I did threaten a lawsuit, the supposed reasons for it are false (More on this later). By the way, I’m not a Christian anymore, so I guess the joke’s on them.<br /> <br /> === The Bestiality Rumor ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I am a zoophile.<br /> <br /> TRUTH: I am not guilty of zoophilia, and any evidence that was presented on ED was completely fabricated. I don’t know who wrote the document but it is clear from the bad spelling and laughable claims that whoever made this wanted some fun at my expense.<br /> <br /> === The Suicide Rumor ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I am/was suicidal.<br /> <br /> TRUTH: This one was surprising, considering how fast it spread. It started shortly before Anthrocon. After AC, pics of me were popping up saying “He’s still alive guys” and stuff like that. It’s the only rumor about me that ended before I even heard about it. It still pops up every once in a while. Apparently minding my own business is the same thing as being dead according to the internet.<br /> <br /> === The Murder Rumors ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I have a list of people to kill<br /> <br /> TRUTH: While having a list is handy, one of that nature serves me no purpose.<br /> <br /> === More Murder Rumors ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I attempted to assassinate former president Bill Clinton.<br /> <br /> TRUTH: The former president came to my college campus campaigning for Hillary. The details of this rumor involve me getting tackled by the secret service for running across campus with something hidden under my coat. What I was carrying was a megaphone, I was later told the college staff that I was not allowed to have it, I handed it over and it was returned to me after Clinton left.<br /> <br /> === The &quot;Retarded&quot; Rumor ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I believe in God because I’m schizophrenic.<br /> <br /> TRUTH: Religion is not a mental illness, deal with it.<br /> <br /> === The Brainwashing Rumor ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I was raped/brainwashed by a priest as a kid.<br /> <br /> TRUTH: Baptists don’t have priests, they have pastors. And according to the CIA, brainwashing is [http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/lsd/marks8.htm not possible]. I didn’t start practicing Christianity until I was around 10. I stopped practicing at age 22 when I was blackmailed by Insane Kangaroo.<br /> == Why did this happen? ==<br /> === Why does everyone say I “hate” gays? ===<br /> This one I can chock up to being something called a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecutory_delusion persecution complex]. On furaffinity, I have only mentioned homosexuality ONCE and that was because someone asked me about it. Here is what happened (note: this isn’t paraphrased):<br /> Other furry: “I’m just curious, what is your opinion on gay marriage”<br /> Me: “The Bible says it’s a sin, so that’s what I believe”<br /> Other furry: “OMG HOW DARE YOU YOU’RE A HATEFUL BIGOT”<br /> Since homosexuality is not an issue I really care that much about, I chose never to talk about it that much. It was never an issue with me, but was always an issue with them. So this whole homophobia myth is rooted in furries who couldn’t keep their mouths shut. My “crime” is simply giving an opinion when I was asked.<br /> === Why did I threaten to “sue” furaffinity? ===<br /> One of the biggest mistakes I made was joining furaffinity in the first place. Had I known how intolerant everyone was of Christians, I would have saved myself a world of hurt and humiliation. But other than that, none of what happened was my fault.<br /> “A user may not intentionally harass, slander, or disrupt another user of the site, or, through inaction, allow another user to come to be harassed.” <br /> So we know from this rule, Insane Kangaroo was intentionally violating the FA rules by harassing me, and the administrators Xearun and TSAwolf were also violating the rules by allowing me to be harassed (note that the [http://help.furaffinity.net/article/AA-01065/0/Code-of-Conduct-COC.html rules] have changed since then). Before I was banned I received about 80 messages a day on FA, on average 78-79 of them were death threats, people blaspheming and attacking Christianity, calling me a NAZI, and even threatening my family. The most shocking part is that some of this hate came from the admins! To my knowledge NOT ONE USER who threatened me was punished. Not surprisingly, Insane Kangaroo was friends with Dragoneer for a while, which means the deck was stacked against me. Luckily, Dragoneer knows better now. My attempt to “sue” FA was simply an empty threat I made out of desperation. In the end it worked, the offending submissions were removed. I could have prevented all of this by staying away from FA, and Dragoneer could have prevented this by simply doing the job he was morally obligated to do.<br /> === Why does everyone call me a “catfucker”? ===<br /> This is basically the furry version of Godwins law, if someone disagrees with you, they must be a zoophile. The term is probably derived from the old anti-furry slur “[[skunkfucker]]” from the 1980’s. Skunk was clearly changed cat because my fursona is a cat. If you pay attention to furry behavior, furries extrapolate conclusions based on the most flimsy evidence. All they have is a phony document and a few Photoshop hack jobs found on ED (a site known for making off the wall claims). FAF administrator [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/chase Chase] and popular artist/coder [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/zaush Zaush] are other examples of how furries affirm the consequent.<br /> === Why does everyone think I’m clinically retarded? ===<br /> This is another case of affirming the consequent. Their train of thought goes like this: “Belief in God is illogical, you are a creationist, therefore, you are stupid.&quot;<br /> === If your ban was unfair, why wasn’t it overturned? ===<br /> Many of my friends on FA saw fit to stand up for me in the one place I can’t. Unfortunately, they did so without my prior permission, and even against my expressed wishes. I don’t mind when someone defends me, but what happened was full on White-Knighting, and that is not something I condone. Trying to defend yourself on the website you’ve been banned from for years is already and uphill battle, but it’s made worse when misguided friends appoint themselves as a defense attorney when they don’t know what their client is accused of.<br /> === What about you and Dragoneer? ===<br /> Things have always been tense between us. Despite that, Dragoneer has put up with multiple appeals to unban me from furaffintiy and let bygones be bygones. Unfortunately, every single one of these ended badly (none of which were Dragoneers fault). Then, at Anthrocon 2011, he came to me in person and said since I was a good boy at FA:United, my account would be unbanned in three months. Nearly two years later (yes I’m that patient), nothing happened. So I enquired to Dragoneer via email why nothing has happened. His response was depressing and petty:<br /> “I really didn't see a reason to unban your account since your decision was to insult the offer after we tried to be polite and reach out.”<br /> The “insult” he is referring to is a joke I told about inkbunny. This is what I said:<br /> “Well, it’s ok if you decide not to unban me ‘cause Inkbunny has better porn anyway”. <br /> The obvious joke was that since I think IB is superior (I don’t) I must be a pedophile with an interest in Cub Porn. The joke was so obvious that Dragoneers [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/sciggles fiancé] (who is now his wife) actually burst out laughing. There is no way he could have misinterpreted what I said, so it’s clear he was just looking for an excuse to keep me off his website. Either way, he and I are on friendly enough terms that he allows me to attend FA:United every year, and since I rather enjoy that convention, I take that as a good gesture.<br /> === What about you and Insane Kangaroo? ===<br /> There’s no way I can say this kindly; IK is a criminal, a bigot, and a bully. He has personally harassed my family, and my college professors, all under the delusion that he was “helping” me. He tried to report me to the police TWICE for bestiality (I suspect he even wrote the fake “confession”) His attempt at a flash mob at Anthrocon resulted in me reporting him to security, one month later, he was banned. Eventually, I finally managed to report him to the FBI for the blackmail I was living under for almost a year, and I was told he lost his job as a result. He is now one of the most hated furries in the fandom. Since Insane Kangaroo cannot compete with the long arm of the law, his harassment of me (which still continues to this day) is reduced to nothing more than lame trolling attempts. It is no exaggeration that all of the suffering I have endured is his fault.<br /> == Conclusion ==<br /> For a long time, I tried to ignore all that happened to me and not dwell on the past. It hasn’t worked. I have this painful desire to get this off my chest because I noticed most people only seem to have one side of the story. I hear people murmuring about me when they think I’m out of earshot, I want to speak for myself instead of having a nameless anonymous collective source seizing my identity and corrupting people's perception of who I am before they ever get a chance to meet me. What made the fandom fun in the first place has been taken from me. It hurts myself and it hurts others by forcing them to judge me without ever meeting me. I leave you with this quote about me from an anonymous furry I never met. This is what an unbiased view looks like, when I think of the Furry Fandom, I think of this:<br /> “All these people keep saying what a terrible person Crusader Cat is. Yet I have yet to hear a single person come forward and say there were mistreated by him. Heck, I’ve been at parties where he’s been present. He kept to himself and didn’t bother anyone. Socially awkward? Perhaps. Deserving of scorn? Hardly.”</div>

Crusader Cat //en.wikifur.com/wiki/User_talk:Crusader_Cat 2014-08-10T20:39:36Z

<p>Crusader Cat: </p> <hr /> <div>Welcome to [[WikiFur]]! Thank you for telling us about yourself. We here at [[WikiFur]] look forward to working with you. [[Forum:Help desk|Let us know]] if you need any [[help]] not already provided. If you would like help continuing to create your article or any other, don't hesitate to consult the [[Help:Furry Book of Style|Furry Book of Style]] or just contact a [[WikiFur:Administrator|administrator]] Have a nice day! :-)<br /> --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 17:53, 16 July 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Please do not remove or otherwise alter other people's comments in talk pages, either for articles or users, when they are not obvious vandalism. These discussions of the article's content act as a historical record. We may sometimes make exceptions, and I will allow the removal of the comment from [[User talk:KendricksRedtail]] since there's no apparent reason why the original comment should have been made there in the first place, but in most cases this is frowned upon. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 17:41, 18 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Need help with my page ==<br /> <br /> I'm trying to add another heading on my page with some more information, but when I add it, it removes another heading and the external links. How do I keep everything I have now and add new info? &lt;small&gt;—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Crusader Cat|Crusader Cat]] ([[User talk:Crusader Cat|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Crusader Cat|contribs]]) .&lt;/small&gt;&lt;!-- [Template:Unsigned] --&gt;<br /> :You were doing it wrong. It's &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt;, not &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;ref/&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt;. Your references were never finishing. I've fixed it up with the new section. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 03:02, 14 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Latest edit to user page (Wikifur versus personal websites) ==<br /> <br /> Wikifur is not your personal homepage. Even for an User Page, the data currently in it, the latest data (and the now deleted images) are not acceptable information (the complains is '''five times bigger''' that your Wikifur article). Please remove the non-historical/furry lore problems/grievances to an off-site website with direct reference link to this page. - [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] ([[User talk:Spirou|talk]]) 19:08, 9 August 2014 (EDT)<br /> :Since your [[Fur Affinity]] page is not accessible, this dissertation can be moved to your open [[Weasyl]] account's journal section. A redirect can then by applied to this page. - [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] ([[User talk:Spirou|talk]]) 00:44, 10 August 2014 (EDT)<br /> ::Unfortunately, since the subject in question has his own [https://www.weasyl.com/~insanekangaroo Weasyl] account (albeit hardly active) I think it would be considered harassment of another user and disallowed there just as it would here. I'll remove it as you requested. - [[user: Crusader Cat|Crusader Cat]] 16:38 10 August 2014 (EDT)</div>

Crusader Cat //en.wikifur.com/wiki/User:Crusader_Cat 2014-08-09T22:40:15Z

<p>Crusader Cat: </p> <hr /> <div>I will attempt to clear up any rumors, slander, and libel that those of the “tolerant” furry community see fit to infect the internet with. First I will start a list of rumors that I am aware of, give an explanation from my perspective as to why this stuff has happened to me, and give clarification on why I feel this needs to be said.<br /> == Rumors ==<br /> === The &quot;homophobia&quot; rumor ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I hate gays, I attempted a gay genocide at Anthrocon, I support “kill the gays” laws.<br /> <br /> TRUTH: I never said anything about hating gays, and I sure as hell never threatened or attempted to harm another gay (or human being) in my life. When I look through my contact lists, I find that I don’t actually have any heterosexual friends. Specifically the claim that I attempted a “gay genocide” at Anthrocon was created by Insane Kangaroo in an ironic attempt to harm me with a flash mob he was planning.<br /> <br /> === The Furaffinity Rumor ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I threatened to sue Fur Affinity for being anti-Christian<br /> <br /> TRUTH: [[David Ross | Insane Kangaroo]] uploaded a submission of my fursona receiving anal sex with “raptor jesus” after reporting him twice, two administrators ([http://www.furaffinity.net/user/xaerun Xearun] and [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/tsawolf TSAwolf]) refused to remove them. They didn’t simply ignore me, they weren’t being lazy, they sent me a private message REFUSEING to enforce their own rules. Since I was well versed in the FA rules regarding harassment, I did the right thing by posting in the FA forums about this. Within one hour, the forum post was deleted; not locked, deleted. Within one day, my account was banned, and I was subjected to public humiliation since then. While I did threaten a lawsuit, the supposed reasons for it are false (More on this later). By the way, I’m not a Christian anymore, so I guess the joke’s on them.<br /> <br /> === The Bestiality Rumor ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I am a zoophile.<br /> <br /> TRUTH: I am not guilty of zoophilia, and any evidence that was presented on ED was completely fabricated. I don’t know who wrote the document but it is clear from the bad spelling and laughable claims that whoever made this wanted some fun at my expense.<br /> <br /> === The Murder Rumors ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I have a list of people to kill<br /> <br /> TRUTH: While having a list is handy, one of that nature serves me no purpose.<br /> <br /> === More Murder Rumors ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I attempted to assassinate former president Bill Clinton.<br /> <br /> TRUTH: The former president came to my college campus campaigning for Hillary. The details of this rumor involve me getting tackled by the secret service for running across campus with something hidden under my coat. What I was carrying was a megaphone, I was later told the college staff that I was not allowed to have it, I handed it over and it was returned to me after Clinton left.<br /> <br /> === The Brainwashing Rumor ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I was raped/brainwashed by a priest as a kid.<br /> <br /> TRUTH: Baptists don’t have priests, they have pastors. And according to the CIA, brainwashing is [http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/lsd/marks8.htm not possible]. I didn’t start practicing Christianity until I was around 10. I stopped practicing at age 22 when I was blackmailed by Insane Kangaroo.<br /> == Why did this happen? ==<br /> === Why does everyone say I “hate” gays? ===<br /> This one I can chock up to being something called a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecutory_delusion persecution complex]. On furaffinity, I have only mentioned homosexuality ONCE and that was because someone asked me about it. Here is what happened (note: this isn’t paraphrased):<br /> Other furry: “I’m just curious, what is your opinion on gay marriage”<br /> Me: “The Bible says it’s a sin, so that’s what I believe”<br /> Other furry: “OMG HOW DARE YOU YOU’RE A HATEFUL BIGOT”<br /> Since homosexuality is not an issue I really care that much about, I chose never to talk about it that much. It was never an issue with me, but was always an issue with them. So this whole homophobia myth is rooted in furries who couldn’t keep their mouths shut. My “crime” is simply giving an opinion when I was asked.<br /> === Why did I threaten to “sue” furaffinity? ===<br /> One of the biggest mistakes I made was joining furaffinity in the first place. Had I known how intolerant everyone was of Christians, I would have saved myself a world of hurt and humiliation. But other than that, none of what happened was my fault.<br /> “A user may not intentionally harass, slander, or disrupt another user of the site, <br /> or, through inaction, allow another user to come to be harassed.”<br /> So we know from this rule, Insane Kangaroo was intentionally violating the FA rules by harassing me, and the administrators Xearun and TSAwolf were also violating the rules by allowing me to be harassed (note that the [http://help.furaffinity.net/article/AA-01065/0/Code-of-Conduct-COC.html rules] have changed since then). Before I was banned I received about 80 messages a day on FA, on average 78-79 of them were death threats, people blaspheming and attacking Christianity, calling me a NAZI, and even threatening my family. The most shocking part is that some of this hate came from the admins! To my knowledge NOT ONE USER who threatened me was punished. Not surprisingly, Insane Kangaroo was friends with Dragoneer for a while, which means the deck was stacked against me. Luckily, Dragoneer knows better now. My attempt to “sue” FA was simply an empty threat I made out of desperation. In the end it worked, the offending submissions were removed. I could have prevented all of this by staying away from FA, and Dragoneer could have prevented this by simply doing the job he was morally obligated to do.<br /> === Why does everyone call me a “catfucker”? ===<br /> This is basically the furry version of Godwins law, if someone disagrees with you, they must be a zoophile. The term is probably derived from the old anti-furry slur “[[skunkfucker]]” from the 1980’s. Skunk was clearly changed cat because my fursona is a cat. If you pay attention to furry behavior, furries extrapolate conclusions based on the most flimsy evidence. All they have is a phony document and a few Photoshop hack jobs found on ED (a site known for making off the wall claims). FAF administrator [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/chase Chase] and popular artist/coder [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/zaush Zaush] are other examples of how furries affirm the consequent.<br /> === Why does everyone think I’m clinically retarded? ===<br /> This is another case of affirming the consequent. Their train of thought goes like this: “Belief in God is illogical, you are a creationist, therefore, you are stupid.&quot;<br /> === If your ban was unfair, why wasn’t it overturned? ===<br /> Many of my friends on FA saw fit to stand up for me in the one place I can’t. Unfortunately, they did so without my prior permission, and even against my expressed wishes. I don’t mind when someone defends me, but what happened was full on White-Knighting, and that is not something I condone. Trying to defend yourself on the website you’ve been banned from for years is already and uphill battle, but it’s made worse when misguided friends appoint themselves as a defense attorney when they don’t know what their client is accused of.<br /> === What about you and Dragoneer? ===<br /> Things have always been tense between us. Despite that, Dragoneer has put up with multiple appeals to unban me from furaffintiy and let bygones be bygones. Unfortunately, every single one of these ended badly (none of which were Dragoneers fault). Then, at Anthrocon 2011, he came to me in person and said since I was a good boy at FA:United, my account would be unbanned in three months. Nearly two years later (yes I’m that patient), nothing happened. So I enquired to Dragoneer via email why nothing has happened. His response was depressing and petty:<br /> “I really didn't see a reason to unban your account since your decision was to insult the offer after we tried to be polite and reach out.”<br /> The “insult” he is referring to is a joke I told about inkbunny. This is what I said:<br /> “Well, it’s ok if you decide not to unban me ‘cause Inkbunny has better porn anyway”. <br /> The obvious joke was that since I think IB is superior (I don’t) I must be a pedophile with an interest in Cub Porn. The joke was so obvious that Dragoneers [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/sciggles fiancé] (who is now his wife) actually burst out laughing. There is no way he could have misinterpreted what I said, so it’s clear he was just looking for an excuse to keep me off his website. Either way, he and I are on friendly enough terms that he allows me to attend FA:United every year, and since I rather enjoy that convention, I take that as a good gesture.<br /> == Insane Kangaroo's lies ==<br /> It has come to my attention, that despite the fact that most of the harassment I endured has all but died down, there are still some lies and misinformation about me that can still cause my reputation harm, and since I almost got assaulted for the third time at Anthrcon, ignoring these lies is no longer an option. Not surprisingly, virtually all of these lies come from the same source: Insane Kangaroo. I do not know whether he is trying to save his own hide, or if it's a pathetic attempt to try and take me down after I have thoroughly defeated him. Either way, here are all the lies that I know of.<br /> <br /> ===LIE#1: I kept harassing Insane Kangaroo=== <br /> <br /> TRUTH: He was incessantly harassing me, and it is no surprise how he managed to get away with this. Around the time I was banned from Furaffinity, he palled around with Dragoneer (who has a disturbingly consistent record of siding against the victim). But it seems even Dragoneer had limits, and eventually stopped tolerating IK’s bullshit. I only wish it happened before he banned me. Specifically, insane Kangaroo created “hate art” with the intent of harassing another user, that you can see [http://en.wikifur.com/w/images/f/fd/Ccbuttsex.jpg here] (NSFW).<br /> <br /> ===LIE#2: I was constantly divulging private information about Insane Kangaroo=== <br /> <br /> TRUTH: He was giving out MY private information. This includes my legal name, my face, pictures of my family members, my college (that I was attending at the time) where my parents were employed, AND my home address. Below is an sample of a chat log and some screenshots where he admits this. Notice his (false) claims about mental illness and suicide, I'll get into more detail about those later.<br /> <br /> [[File:IKthreat.png|framed|left]]<br /> [[File:IKthreat3.png|framed|left]]<br /> [[File:IKthreat4.png|framed|left]]<br /> [[File:IKthreat5.png|framed|left]]<br /> <br /> marchthare (6:25pm):<br /> Hey hey. It's Ricky. Hope you don't take any of these posts persoanlly. I just don't like you (but most of that has to do with Crusader Cat)<br /> '''insane.kangaroo@furryzone.com (6:25pm):'''<br /> '''there is great misinformation about the CC thing'''<br /> marchthare (6:25pm):<br /> I keep an open mind, though I don't think any of the stuff he said is BS<br /> '''insane.kangaroo@furryzone.com (6:25pm):'''<br /> '''I didn't want to say anything about CC, because his medical reason'''<br /> marchthare (6:25pm):<br /> I talk to him on a regular basis<br /> '''insane.kangaroo@furryzone.com (6:26pm):'''<br /> '''At first I thought he was fake and a troll'''<br /> '''then it stopped getting funny after a few months'''<br /> '''when I started to recognize the actions'''<br /> '''when I spoke with his father, I asked and was correct'''<br /> '''he has been diagnosed with severe autism.'''<br /> marchthare (6:26pm):<br /> Ok, so you did call his dad<br /> '''insane.kangaroo@furryzone.com (6:26pm):'''<br /> '''I called the Student Dean for his safety'''<br /> marchthare (6:27pm):<br /> He is not severely autistic<br /> '''insane.kangaroo@furryzone.com (6:27pm):'''<br /> '''he was escalating'''<br /> marchthare (6:27pm):<br /> I've spoken to him over the phone<br /> '''insane.kangaroo@furryzone.com (6:27pm):'''<br /> '''if you read papers online, escalation in autism and aspergers can go up to suicide'''<br /> <br /> ===Lie#3: I threatened to sue Insane Kangaroo===<br /> <br /> TRUTH: Insane Kangarootook frivolous legal action against me on multiple occasions, and when that failed, he resorted to blackmail. Soon after I was banned he attempted to have me arrested TWICE for bestiality and failed because he had no evidence. I suspect the “confession document” was written by him to try and make me look guilty. After that I uploaded a video to youtube that had the “hate art” you see above, and Insane Kangaroo filed two bogus DMCA’s against me to try and have it taken down. Apparently, showing youtube something he put on the internet for free is considered a copyright violation. At any rate, I received a notice that the video was taken down because of a copyright claim by a “David Ross” (who I found out was Insane Kangaroo after one google search). I re-uploaded the video and removed the picture with a notice about the copyright claim. Not surprisingly, he overreacted and said I kept “name dropping”. Not only is his claim hypocritical, but it is also harebrained, if David Rross didn’t want me knowing his name (which he publically used on multiple places like furaffinity, livejournal, and wikifur), then he shouldn’t have GIVEN me his legal name by filing a fake copyright claim in the first place! The last bullshit legal action he took against me was the most inexcusable. The second time a copyright claim was made against the video, it was under the name “Sean Piche”, who I later found out was Dragoneer. This is completely nonsensical, a high profile person like Dragoneer wouldn’t go out of his way to take legal action just because some unknown furry like me was talking shit about him on youtube. It takes a lot of direct action for me to get Dragoneers’ attention (and by direct action I mean multiple emails) so its’ clear Insane Kangaroo was impersonating Dragoneer while filing a false copyright claim against me. Lets recap:<br /> <br /> * He misused 911 TWICE<br /> * Filed TWO false copyright claims<br /> * Blackmailed me for over a year<br /> * Impersonated someone online<br /> <br /> ===Lie#4: My father knew about Insane Kangaroo before he called him===<br /> <br /> TRUTH: No one in my house or college campus knew who Insane Kangaroo was before, or after he called them. When he called and harassed my acquaintances, he refused to identify himself directly and instead just referred to himself as “Someone from out of state”. He told the dean of my college, and my adviser that I should be barred from leaving campus, and should not be allowed to attend any fur cons. Strangely; the furry conventions he specifically mentioned were ones that I never attended, and never planned to attend, like MWFF.<br /> <br /> ===LIE#5: I was “escalating” and near suicidal before Insane Kangaroo intervened and told my father I was flying off the handle===<br /> <br /> TRUTH: The “escalation” he is referring to is the DMCA counter notice I filed in response to Insane Kangaroos false copyright claims that I mentioned earlier, it is clear he was out for petty revenge instead of any noble reason for helping me. When he called my father, he claimed that I was planning a “gay genocide” at Anthrocon, and the only way he could counter it was by forming a flash mob. When confronted with this he claims that I was trying to warn me about it, not by going to security, not by contacting me directly and warning me, but by calling my father with an ultimatum. His list of demands included: not being allowed to attend any furry conventions, not being allowed access to the internet, and not being allowed to leave MY OWN house. This was the first violent threat I got at a furry convention, and unfortunately wasn’t the last. Luckily another furry (who unlike Insane Kangaroo, is well versed in matters of the law) and gave me the information I needed to report him to the FBI. Ever since then, Insane Kangaroo was put in his place and I am told he even lost his job as a result. That’s at least I have one less psychopath to worry about. Other victims of IK’s blackmail include [http://en.wikifur.com/w/images/a/a1/IKultimatum.png Uncle Kage], and [http://en.wikifur.com/w/images/2/2f/Thread1.png Dragoneer]. <br /> <br /> ===Lie #6: I have a severe, crippling case of autism and schizophrenia===<br /> <br /> TRUTH: Both are lies perpetuated by Insane Kangaroo. Despite the fact that he has no access to my medical records, and never even finished high-school, Insane Kangaroo has the idea that he can “diagnose” and “treat” people over the internet. Just replace those two clinical terms with the word “Bully” and things will make sense for our little armchair psychoanalyst. Look at the following screenshot and it becomes clear why he promotes this filth. <br /> [[File:IKbully.png|framed|left]]<br /> <br /> ===In Summery===<br /> There’s no way I can say this kindly; IK is a criminal, a bigot, a racist, and a bully. Not surprisingly, this gave him a notoriety that labeled him as one of the most hated furries in the fandom. Since Insane Kangaroo cannot compete with the long arm of the law, his harassment of me (which still continues to this day) is reduced to nothing more than lame trolling attempts, including [http://en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=User%3ACrusader_Cat&amp;diff=433292&amp;oldid=433270 attempted vandalism] of [http://en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=User%3ACrusader_Cat&amp;diff=434092&amp;oldid=434086 this page]. It is no exaggeration that all of the suffering I have endured is his fault. People often times use the word “monster” to describe a man whose actions are so evil, that he cannot be acknowledged as a fellow member of the human race. Insane Kangaroo is one of those monsters.<br /> <br /> == Conclusion ==<br /> For a long time, I tried to ignore all that happened to me and not dwell on the past. It hasn’t worked. I have this painful desire to get this off my chest because I noticed most people only seem to have one side of the story. I hear people murmuring about me when they think I’m out of earshot, I want to speak for myself instead of having a nameless anonymous collective source seizing my identity and corrupting people's perception of who I am before they ever get a chance to meet me. What made the fandom fun in the first place has been taken from me. It hurts myself and it hurts others by forcing them to judge me without ever meeting me. I leave you with this quote about me from an anonymous furry I never met. This is what an unbiased view looks like, when I think of the Furry Fandom, I think of this:<br /> “All these people keep saying what a terrible person Crusader Cat is. <br /> Yet I have yet to hear a single person come forward and say there were mistreated by him. <br /> Heck, I’ve been at parties where he’s been present. He kept to himself and didn’t bother anyone. <br /> Socially awkward? Perhaps. Deserving of scorn? Hardly.”</div>

Crusader Cat //en.wikifur.com/wiki/User:Crusader_Cat 2014-08-09T22:38:03Z

<p>Crusader Cat: </p> <hr /> <div>I will attempt to clear up any rumors, slander, and libel that those of the “tolerant” furry community see fit to infect the internet with. First I will start a list of rumors that I am aware of, give an explanation from my perspective as to why this stuff has happened to me, and give clarification on why I feel this needs to be said.<br /> == Rumors ==<br /> === The &quot;homophobia&quot; rumor ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I hate gays, I attempted a gay genocide at Anthrocon, I support “kill the gays” laws.<br /> <br /> TRUTH: I never said anything about hating gays, and I sure as hell never threatened or attempted to harm another gay (or human being) in my life. When I look through my contact lists, I find that I don’t actually have any heterosexual friends. Specifically the claim that I attempted a “gay genocide” at Anthrocon was created by Insane Kangaroo in an ironic attempt to harm me with a flash mob he was planning.<br /> <br /> === The Furaffinity Rumor ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I threatened to sue Fur Affinity for being anti-Christian<br /> <br /> TRUTH: [[David Ross | Insane Kangaroo]] uploaded a submission of my fursona receiving anal sex with “raptor jesus” after reporting him twice, two administrators ([http://www.furaffinity.net/user/xaerun Xearun] and [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/tsawolf TSAwolf]) refused to remove them. They didn’t simply ignore me, they weren’t being lazy, they sent me a private message REFUSEING to enforce their own rules. Since I was well versed in the FA rules regarding harassment, I did the right thing by posting in the FA forums about this. Within one hour, the forum post was deleted; not locked, deleted. Within one day, my account was banned, and I was subjected to public humiliation since then. While I did threaten a lawsuit, the supposed reasons for it are false (More on this later). By the way, I’m not a Christian anymore, so I guess the joke’s on them.<br /> <br /> === The Bestiality Rumor ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I am a zoophile.<br /> <br /> TRUTH: I am not guilty of zoophilia, and any evidence that was presented on ED was completely fabricated. I don’t know who wrote the document but it is clear from the bad spelling and laughable claims that whoever made this wanted some fun at my expense.<br /> <br /> === The Murder Rumors ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I have a list of people to kill<br /> <br /> TRUTH: While having a list is handy, one of that nature serves me no purpose.<br /> <br /> === More Murder Rumors ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I attempted to assassinate former president Bill Clinton.<br /> <br /> TRUTH: The former president came to my college campus campaigning for Hillary. The details of this rumor involve me getting tackled by the secret service for running across campus with something hidden under my coat. What I was carrying was a megaphone, I was later told the college staff that I was not allowed to have it, I handed it over and it was returned to me after Clinton left.<br /> <br /> === The Brainwashing Rumor ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I was raped/brainwashed by a priest as a kid.<br /> <br /> TRUTH: Baptists don’t have priests, they have pastors. And according to the CIA, brainwashing is [http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/lsd/marks8.htm not possible]. I didn’t start practicing Christianity until I was around 10. I stopped practicing at age 22 when I was blackmailed by Insane Kangaroo.<br /> == Why did this happen? ==<br /> === Why does everyone say I “hate” gays? ===<br /> This one I can chock up to being something called a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecutory_delusion persecution complex]. On furaffinity, I have only mentioned homosexuality ONCE and that was because someone asked me about it. Here is what happened (note: this isn’t paraphrased):<br /> Other furry: “I’m just curious, what is your opinion on gay marriage”<br /> Me: “The Bible says it’s a sin, so that’s what I believe”<br /> Other furry: “OMG HOW DARE YOU YOU’RE A HATEFUL BIGOT”<br /> Since homosexuality is not an issue I really care that much about, I chose never to talk about it that much. It was never an issue with me, but was always an issue with them. So this whole homophobia myth is rooted in furries who couldn’t keep their mouths shut. My “crime” is simply giving an opinion when I was asked.<br /> === Why did I threaten to “sue” furaffinity? ===<br /> One of the biggest mistakes I made was joining furaffinity in the first place. Had I known how intolerant everyone was of Christians, I would have saved myself a world of hurt and humiliation. But other than that, none of what happened was my fault.<br /> “A user may not intentionally harass, slander, or disrupt another user of the site, <br /> or, through inaction, allow another user to come to be harassed.”<br /> So we know from this rule, Insane Kangaroo was intentionally violating the FA rules by harassing me, and the administrators Xearun and TSAwolf were also violating the rules by allowing me to be harassed (note that the [http://help.furaffinity.net/article/AA-01065/0/Code-of-Conduct-COC.html rules] have changed since then). Before I was banned I received about 80 messages a day on FA, on average 78-79 of them were death threats, people blaspheming and attacking Christianity, calling me a NAZI, and even threatening my family. The most shocking part is that some of this hate came from the admins! To my knowledge NOT ONE USER who threatened me was punished. Not surprisingly, Insane Kangaroo was friends with Dragoneer for a while, which means the deck was stacked against me. Luckily, Dragoneer knows better now. My attempt to “sue” FA was simply an empty threat I made out of desperation. In the end it worked, the offending submissions were removed. I could have prevented all of this by staying away from FA, and Dragoneer could have prevented this by simply doing the job he was morally obligated to do.<br /> === Why does everyone call me a “catfucker”? ===<br /> This is basically the furry version of Godwins law, if someone disagrees with you, they must be a zoophile. The term is probably derived from the old anti-furry slur “[[skunkfucker]]” from the 1980’s. Skunk was clearly changed cat because my fursona is a cat. If you pay attention to furry behavior, furries extrapolate conclusions based on the most flimsy evidence. All they have is a phony document and a few Photoshop hack jobs found on ED (a site known for making off the wall claims). FAF administrator [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/chase Chase] and popular artist/coder [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/zaush Zaush] are other examples of how furries affirm the consequent.<br /> === Why does everyone think I’m clinically retarded? ===<br /> This is another case of affirming the consequent. Their train of thought goes like this: “Belief in God is illogical, you are a creationist, therefore, you are stupid.&quot;<br /> === If your ban was unfair, why wasn’t it overturned? ===<br /> Many of my friends on FA saw fit to stand up for me in the one place I can’t. Unfortunately, they did so without my prior permission, and even against my expressed wishes. I don’t mind when someone defends me, but what happened was full on White-Knighting, and that is not something I condone. Trying to defend yourself on the website you’ve been banned from for years is already and uphill battle, but it’s made worse when misguided friends appoint themselves as a defense attorney when they don’t know what their client is accused of.<br /> === What about you and Dragoneer? ===<br /> Things have always been tense between us. Despite that, Dragoneer has put up with multiple appeals to unban me from furaffintiy and let bygones be bygones. Unfortunately, every single one of these ended badly (none of which were Dragoneers fault). Then, at Anthrocon 2011, he came to me in person and said since I was a good boy at FA:United, my account would be unbanned in three months. Nearly two years later (yes I’m that patient), nothing happened. So I enquired to Dragoneer via email why nothing has happened. His response was depressing and petty:<br /> “I really didn't see a reason to unban your account since your decision was to insult the offer after we tried to be polite and reach out.”<br /> The “insult” he is referring to is a joke I told about inkbunny. This is what I said:<br /> “Well, it’s ok if you decide not to unban me ‘cause Inkbunny has better porn anyway”. <br /> The obvious joke was that since I think IB is superior (I don’t) I must be a pedophile with an interest in Cub Porn. The joke was so obvious that Dragoneers [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/sciggles fiancé] (who is now his wife) actually burst out laughing. There is no way he could have misinterpreted what I said, so it’s clear he was just looking for an excuse to keep me off his website. Either way, he and I are on friendly enough terms that he allows me to attend FA:United every year, and since I rather enjoy that convention, I take that as a good gesture.<br /> == Insane Kangaroo's lies ==<br /> It has come to my attention, that despite the fact that most of the harassment I endured has all but died down, there are still some lies and misinformation about me that can still cause my reputation harm, and since I almost got assaulted for the third time at Anthrcon, ignoring these lies is no longer an option. Not surprisingly, virtually all of these lies come from the same source: Insane Kangaroo. I do not know whether he is trying to save his own hide, or if it's a pathetic attempt to try and take me down after I have thoroughly defeated him. Either way, here are all the lies that I know of.<br /> <br /> ===LIE#1: I kept harassing Insane Kangaroo=== <br /> <br /> TRUTH: He was incessantly harassing me, and it is no surprise how he managed to get away with this. Around the time I was banned from Furaffinity, he palled around with Dragoneer (who has a disturbingly consistent record of siding against the victim). But it seems even Dragoneer had limits, and eventually stopped tolerating IK’s bullshit. I only wish it happened before he banned me. Specifically, insane Kangaroo created “hate art” with the intent of harassing another user, that you can see [http://en.wikifur.com/w/images/f/fd/Ccbuttsex.jpg here] (NSFW).<br /> <br /> ===LIE#2: I was constantly divulging private information about Insane Kangaroo=== <br /> <br /> TRUTH: He was giving out MY private information. This includes my legal name, my face, pictures of my family members, my college (that I was attending at the time) where my parents were employed, AND my home address. Below is an sample of a chat log and some screenshots where he admits this. Notice his (false) claims about mental illness and suicide, I'll get into more detail about those later.<br /> <br /> [[File:IKthreat.png|framed|left]]<br /> [[File:IKthreat3.png|framed|left]]<br /> [[File:IKthreat4.png|framed|left]]<br /> [[File:IKthreat5.png|framed|left]]<br /> <br /> marchthare (6:25pm):<br /> Hey hey. It's Ricky. Hope you don't take any of these posts persoanlly. I just don't like you (but most of that has to do with Crusader Cat)<br /> '''insane.kangaroo@furryzone.com (6:25pm):'''<br /> '''there is great misinformation about the CC thing'''<br /> marchthare (6:25pm):<br /> I keep an open mind, though I don't think any of the stuff he said is BS<br /> '''insane.kangaroo@furryzone.com (6:25pm):'''<br /> '''I didn't want to say anything about CC, because his medical reason'''<br /> marchthare (6:25pm):<br /> I talk to him on a regular basis<br /> '''insane.kangaroo@furryzone.com (6:26pm):'''<br /> '''At first I thought he was fake and a troll'''<br /> '''then it stopped getting funny after a few months'''<br /> '''when I started to recognize the actions'''<br /> '''when I spoke with his father, I asked and was correct'''<br /> '''he has been diagnosed with severe autism.'''<br /> marchthare (6:26pm):<br /> Ok, so you did call his dad<br /> '''insane.kangaroo@furryzone.com (6:26pm):'''<br /> '''I called the Student Dean for his safety'''<br /> marchthare (6:27pm):<br /> He is not severely autistic<br /> '''insane.kangaroo@furryzone.com (6:27pm):'''<br /> '''he was escalating'''<br /> marchthare (6:27pm):<br /> I've spoken to him over the phone<br /> '''insane.kangaroo@furryzone.com (6:27pm):'''<br /> '''if you read papers online, escalation in autism and aspergers can go up to suicide'''<br /> <br /> ===Lie#3: I threatened to sue Insane Kangaroo===<br /> <br /> TRUTH: Insane Kangarootook frivolous legal action against me on multiple occasions, and when that failed, he resorted to blackmail. Soon after I was banned he attempted to have me arrested TWICE for bestiality and failed because he had no evidence. I suspect the “confession document” was written by him to try and make me look guilty. After that I uploaded a video to youtube that had the “hate art” you see above, and Insane Kangaroo filed two bogus DMCA’s against me to try and have it taken down. Apparently, showing youtube something he put on the internet for free is considered a copyright violation. At any rate, I received a notice that the video was taken down because of a copyright claim by a “David Ross” (who I found out was Insane Kangaroo after one google search). I re-uploaded the video and removed the picture with a notice about the copyright claim. Not surprisingly, he overreacted and said I kept “name dropping”. Not only is his claim hypocritical, but it is also harebrained, if David Rross didn’t want me knowing his name (which he publically used on multiple places like furaffinity, livejournal, and wikifur), then he shouldn’t have GIVEN me his legal name by filing a fake copyright claim in the first place! The last bullshit legal action he took against me was the most inexcusable. The second time a copyright claim was made against the video, it was under the name “Sean Piche”, who I later found out was Dragoneer. This is completely nonsensical, a high profile person like Dragoneer wouldn’t go out of his way to take legal action just because some unknown furry like me was talking shit about him on youtube. It takes a lot of direct action for me to get Dragoneers’ attention (and by direct action I mean multiple emails) so its’ clear Insane Kangaroo was impersonating Dragoneer while filing a false copyright claim against me. Lets recap:<br /> <br /> * He misused 911 TWICE<br /> * Filed TWO false copyright claims<br /> * Blackmailed me for over a year<br /> * Impersonated someone online<br /> <br /> ===Lie#4: My father knew about Insane Kangaroo before he called him===<br /> <br /> TRUTH: No one in my house or college campus knew who Insane Kangaroo was before, or after he called them. When he called and harassed my acquaintances, he refused to identify himself directly and instead just referred to himself as “Someone from out of state”. He told the dean of my college, and my adviser that I should be barred from leaving campus, and should not be allowed to attend any fur cons. Strangely; the furry conventions he specifically mentioned were ones that I never attended, and never planned to attend, like MWFF.<br /> <br /> ===LIE#5: I was “escalating” and near suicidal before Insane Kangaroo intervened and told my father I was flying off the handle===<br /> <br /> TRUTH: The “escalation” he is referring to is the DMCA counter notice I filed in response to Insane Kangaroos false copyright claims that I mentioned earlier, it is clear he was out for petty revenge instead of any noble reason for helping me. When he called my father, he claimed that I was planning a “gay genocide” at Anthrocon, and the only way he could counter it was by forming a flash mob. When confronted with this he claims that I was trying to warn me about it, not by going to security, not by contacting me directly and warning me, but by calling my father with an ultimatum. His list of demands included: not being allowed to attend any furry conventions, not being allowed access to the internet, and not being allowed to leave MY OWN house. This was the first violent threat I got at a furry convention, and unfortunately wasn’t the last. Luckily another furry (who unlike Insane Kangaroo, is well versed in matters of the law) and gave me the information I needed to report him to the FBI. Ever since then, Insane Kangaroo was put in his place and I am told he even lost his job as a result. That’s at least I have one less psychopath to worry about. Other victims of IK’s blackmail include [http://en.wikifur.com/w/images/a/a1/IKultimatum.png Uncle Kage], and [http://en.wikifur.com/w/images/2/2f/Thread1.png Dragoneer]. <br /> <br /> <br /> ===Lie #6: I have a severe, crippling case of autism and schizophrenia===<br /> <br /> TRUTH: Both are lies perpetuated by Insane Kangaroo. Despite the fact that he has no access to my medical records, and never even finished high-school, Insane Kangaroo has the idea that he can “diagnose” and “treat” people over the internet. Just replace those two clinical terms with the word “Bully” and things will make sense for our little armchair psychoanalyst. Look at the following screenshot and it becomes clear why he promotes this filth. <br /> [[File:IKbully.png|framed|left]]<br /> <br /> ===In Summery===<br /> There’s no way I can say this kindly; IK is a criminal, a bigot, a racist, and a bully. Not surprisingly, this gave him a notoriety that labeled him as one of the most hated furries in the fandom. Since Insane Kangaroo cannot compete with the long arm of the law, his harassment of me (which still continues to this day) is reduced to nothing more than lame trolling attempts, including [http://en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=User%3ACrusader_Cat&amp;diff=433292&amp;oldid=433270 attempted vandalism] of [http://en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=User%3ACrusader_Cat&amp;diff=434092&amp;oldid=434086 this page]. It is no exaggeration that all of the suffering I have endured is his fault. People often times use the word “monster” to describe a man whose actions are so evil, that he cannot be acknowledged as a fellow member of the human race. Insane Kangaroo is one of those monsters.<br /> <br /> == Conclusion ==<br /> For a long time, I tried to ignore all that happened to me and not dwell on the past. It hasn’t worked. I have this painful desire to get this off my chest because I noticed most people only seem to have one side of the story. I hear people murmuring about me when they think I’m out of earshot, I want to speak for myself instead of having a nameless anonymous collective source seizing my identity and corrupting people's perception of who I am before they ever get a chance to meet me. What made the fandom fun in the first place has been taken from me. It hurts myself and it hurts others by forcing them to judge me without ever meeting me. I leave you with this quote about me from an anonymous furry I never met. This is what an unbiased view looks like, when I think of the Furry Fandom, I think of this:<br /> “All these people keep saying what a terrible person Crusader Cat is. <br /> Yet I have yet to hear a single person come forward and say there were mistreated by him. <br /> Heck, I’ve been at parties where he’s been present. He kept to himself and didn’t bother anyone. <br /> Socially awkward? Perhaps. Deserving of scorn? Hardly.”</div>

Crusader Cat //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Crusader_Cat 2014-06-04T03:33:52Z

<p>Crusader Cat: </p> <hr /> <div>{{unreferenced}}<br /> [[File:Crusader Cat at Anthrocon 2009.jpg|thumb|Crusader Cat in his [[fursuit]] at Anthrocon 2009, with [[Kevin Burkhardt]].]]<br /> [[File:Crusader_cat_at_delaware_furbowl_51.jpg|thumb|Crusader Cat at Delaware Furbowl]]<br /> '''Crusader Cat''' is a [[fursuiter]], [[writer]], [[actor]] an ex-[[W:Christian fundamentalist|Christian Fundamentalist]], and a card in the game Cards Against Humanity.<br /> <br /> == Biography ==<br /> <br /> Crusader Cat was an [[W:Independent Baptist|Independent Baptist]], advocating [[W:King_James_Only_movement|King James only movement]], and was criticial [[W:C.S. Lewis|C.S. Lewis]]' ''[[Chronicles of Narnia]]'', and [[W:Christian rock|Christian rock]]. He is a published playwright, musical theatre actor, and [[W:Bagpipe|bagpiper]].<br /> <br /> == Fandom involvement ==<br /> <br /> Crusader Cat was introduced to the furry fandom when he was seventeen, after discovering furry [[pornography]]. As a result, he became fiercely [[anti-furry]], believing it was some sort of [[bestiality]] cult. At the age of twenty, after discovering and contacting other [[Christian furries]], he learned of the diversity of the fandom, and later concluded that being a furry didn't contradict his Christian beliefs. <br /> <br /> On March 20, 2008, he decided that becoming a furry could help him deal with some of his issues regarding sexuality, while at the same time providing an opportunity to promote his beliefs. At [[Anthrocon 2008]] he experimented with this by creating [[anthropomorphic]] [[W:Jack T. Chick|Jack Chick]] style [[literature|tracts]], which he distributed at the convention. He has since renounced his religious affiliation.<br /> <br /> === Fursona ===<br /> <br /> Crusader Cat's [[fursona]] is a brown house [[cat]] with a blond salad-bowl haircut, and is most commonly depicted wearing a medieval knight outfit, or orange [[W:NASA|NASA]] inspired jumpsuit.<br /> <br /> === Convention attendant ===<br /> <br /> * [[Anthrocon]] - 2008-present<br /> * [[FWA|Furry Weekend Atlanta]] - 2010-2011<br /> * [[MFM|Mephit Furmeet]] - 2010<br /> * [[New Year's Furry Ball]] - 2010-present<br /> * [[Furstivus]] - 2011<br /> * [[Delaware Furbowl]] - 2011-present<br /> * [[FA: United]] - 2011-present<br /> * [[Furfright]] - 2012<br /> <br /> == Controversy ==<br /> <br /> In 2009, Crusader Cat was banned from [[Fur Affinity]] after threatening legal action against the site, under the belief that the FA staff were not taking his harassment issues regarding several users{{who}} seriously,{{fact}} or were ignoring these trouble tickets outright due to his religious beliefs.{{fact}}.<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> {{Contributor}}<br /> * [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/CrusaderCat/ Crusader Cat] on Furaffinity (banned)<br /> <br /> {{person-stub}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:People]]<br /> [[Category:Writers]]<br /> [[Category:Fursuiters]]<br /> [[Category:Cat characters]]<br /> [[Category:1987 births]]</div>

Crusader Cat //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Crusader_Cat 2014-03-19T03:09:13Z

<p>Crusader Cat: </p> <hr /> <div>{{unreferenced}}<br /> [[File:Crusader Cat at Anthrocon 2009.jpg|thumb|Crusader Cat in his [[fursuit]] at Anthrocon 2009, with [[Kevin Burkhardt]].]]<br /> [[File:Crusader_cat_at_delaware_furbowl_51.jpg|thumb|Crusader Cat at Delaware Furbowl]]<br /> '''Crusader Cat''' is a [[fursuiter]], [[writer]], [[actor]] and an ex-[[W:Christian fundamentalist|Christian Fundamentalist]].<br /> <br /> == Biography ==<br /> <br /> Crusader Cat was an [[W:Independent Baptist|Independent Baptist]], advocating [[W:King_James_Only_movement|King James only movement]], and was criticial [[W:C.S. Lewis|C.S. Lewis]]' ''[[Chronicles of Narnia]]'', and [[W:Christian rock|Christian rock]]. He is a published playwright, musical theatre actor, and [[W:Bagpipe|bagpiper]].<br /> <br /> == Fandom involvement ==<br /> <br /> Crusader Cat was introduced to the furry fandom when he was seventeen, after discovering furry [[pornography]]. As a result, he became fiercely [[anti-furry]], believing it was some sort of [[bestiality]] cult. At the age of twenty, after discovering and contacting other [[Christian furries]], he learned of the diversity of the fandom, and later concluded that being a furry didn't contradict his Christian beliefs. <br /> <br /> On March 20, 2008, he decided that becoming a furry could help him deal with some of his issues regarding sexuality, while at the same time providing an opportunity to promote his beliefs. At [[Anthrocon 2008]] he experimented with this by creating [[anthropomorphic]] [[W:Jack T. Chick|Jack Chick]] style [[literature|tracts]], which he distributed at the convention. He has since renounced his religious affiliation.<br /> <br /> === Fursona ===<br /> <br /> Crusader Cat's [[fursona]] is a brown house [[cat]] with a blond salad-bowl haircut, and is most commonly depicted wearing a medieval knight outfit, or orange [[W:NASA|NASA]] inspired jumpsuit.<br /> <br /> === Convention attendant ===<br /> <br /> * [[Anthrocon]] - 2008-present<br /> * [[FWA|Furry Weekend Atlanta]] - 2010-2011<br /> * [[MFM|Mephit Furmeet]] - 2010<br /> * [[New Year's Furry Ball]] - 2010-present<br /> * [[Furstivus]] - 2011<br /> * [[Delaware Furbowl]] - 2011-present<br /> * [[FA: United]] - 2011-present<br /> * [[Furfright]] - 2012<br /> <br /> == Controversy ==<br /> <br /> In 2009, Crusader Cat was banned from [[Fur Affinity]] after threatening legal action against the site, under the belief that the FA staff were not taking his harassment issues regarding several users{{who}} seriously,{{fact}} or were ignoring these trouble tickets outright due to his religious beliefs.{{fact}}.<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> {{Contributor}}<br /> * [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/CrusaderCat/ Crusader Cat] on Furaffinity (banned)<br /> <br /> {{person-stub}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:People]]<br /> [[Category:Writers]]<br /> [[Category:Fursuiters]]<br /> [[Category:Cat characters]]<br /> [[Category:1987 births]]</div>

Crusader Cat //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Crusader_Cat 2014-03-16T20:13:11Z

<p>Crusader Cat: </p> <hr /> <div>[[File:Crusader_cat_at_delaware_furbowl_51.jpg|thumb|Crusader Cat at [[Delaware Furbowl]] 51]][[File:Crusader_cat_at_FAU_6.jpg|thumb| Crusader Cat at [[FA: United]] 6, photo by [[http://www.furaffinity.net/user/darkpromisevf/ darkpromisevf]]]][[File:15154401.jpg|thumb|Crusader Cat in his fursuit at [[Anthrocon 2009]] with Kevin Burkhardt]]'''Crusader Cat''' (Brown house Cat) is a fursuiter who attends [[Anthrocon]], [[FA: United]], [[New Year's Furry Ball]], and [[Delaware Furbowl]].<br /> <br /> ==== Fur Affinity ban ====<br /> In 2009 after tremendous backlash as a result of Crusader Cat being open about his (former) religious beliefs, several users uploaded submissions with intent to harass him. Crusader Cat filed multiple trouble tickets, but was rejected by the administration. After over a month of this, Crusader Cat threatened legal action as an act of desperation, while some of the offending submissions were removed, Crusader Cat was banned.<br /> <br /> ==== Controversy ====<br /> Multiple individuals have claimed that Crusader Cat is homophobic and a zoophile. These claims stem from comments he made implying homosexuality is a “sin” and a document supposedly created by him giving graphic details about bestiality. Crusader Cat denies that he is “homophobic”, and claims that the “document” is a forgery. So far, no furry (homosexual or otherwise) has come forward and claimed to be hurt or mistreated by him.<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> <br /> * [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/CrusaderCat/ Crusader Cat] on Furaffinity<br /> * [http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/User:Crusader_Cat Crusader's explanation of events in his own words]<br /> <br /> [[Category:People]]<br /> [[Category:Fursuiters]]<br /> [[Category:Cat characters]]<br /> [[Category:1987 births]]</div>

Crusader Cat //en.wikifur.com/wiki/File:Crusader_cat_at_delaware_furbowl_51.jpg 2014-03-16T20:02:19Z

<p>Crusader Cat: </p> <hr /> <div></div>

Crusader Cat //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Crusader_Cat 2014-03-16T20:00:35Z

<p>Crusader Cat: </p> <hr /> <div>[[File:Crusader_cat_at_FAU_6.jpg]][[File:15154401.jpg|thumb|Crusader Cat in his fursuit at [[Anthrocon 2009]] with Kevin Burkhardt]]'''Crusader Cat''' (Brown house Cat) is a fursuiter who attends [[Anthrocon]], [[FA: United]], [[New Year's Furry Ball]], and [[Delaware Furbowl]].<br /> <br /> ==== Fur Affinity ban ====<br /> In 2009 after tremendous backlash as a result of Crusader Cat being open about his (former) religious beliefs, several users uploaded submissions with intent to harass him. Crusader Cat filed multiple trouble tickets, but was rejected by the administration. After over a month of this, Crusader Cat threatened legal action as an act of desperation, while some of the offending submissions were removed, Crusader Cat was banned.<br /> <br /> ==== Controversy ====<br /> Multiple individuals have claimed that Crusader Cat is homophobic and a zoophile. These claims stem from comments he made implying homosexuality is a “sin” and a document supposedly created by him giving graphic details about bestiality. Crusader Cat denies that he is “homophobic”, and claims that the “document” is a forgery. So far, no furry (homosexual or otherwise) has come forward and claimed to be hurt or mistreated by him.<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> <br /> * [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/CrusaderCat/ Crusader Cat] on Furaffinity<br /> * [http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/User:Crusader_Cat Crusader's explanation of events in his own words]<br /> <br /> [[Category:People]]<br /> [[Category:Fursuiters]]<br /> [[Category:Cat characters]]<br /> [[Category:1987 births]]</div>

Crusader Cat //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Crusader_Cat 2014-03-16T19:29:44Z

<p>Crusader Cat: </p> <hr /> <div>[[File:15154401.jpg|thumb|Crusader Cat in his fursuit at [[Anthrocon 2009]] with Kevin Burkhardt]]'''Crusader Cat''' (Brown house Cat) is a fursuiter who attends [[Anthrocon]], [[FA: United]], [[New Year's Furry Ball]], and [[Delaware Furbowl]].<br /> <br /> ==== Fur Affinity ban ====<br /> In 2009 after tremendous backlash as a result of Crusader Cat being open about his (former) religious beliefs, several users uploaded submissions with intent to harass him. Crusader Cat filed multiple trouble tickets, but was rejected by the administration. After over a month of this, Crusader Cat threatened legal action as an act of desperation, while some of the offending submissions were removed, Crusader Cat was banned.<br /> <br /> ==== Controversy ====<br /> Multiple individuals have claimed that Crusader Cat is homophobic and a zoophile. These claims stem from comments he made implying homosexuality is a “sin” and a document supposedly created by him giving graphic details about bestiality. Crusader Cat denies that he is “homophobic”, and claims that the “document” is a forgery. So far, no furry (homosexual or otherwise) has come forward and claimed to be hurt or mistreated by him.<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> <br /> * [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/CrusaderCat/ Crusader Cat] on Furaffinity<br /> * [http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/User:Crusader_Cat Crusader's explanation of events in his own words]<br /> <br /> [[Category:People]]<br /> [[Category:Fursuiters]]<br /> [[Category:Cat characters]]<br /> [[Category:1987 births]]</div>

Crusader Cat //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Crusader_Cat 2014-03-16T17:57:20Z

<p>Crusader Cat: </p> <hr /> <div>[[File:15154401.jpg|thumb|Crusader Cat in his fursuit at [[Anthrocon 2009]] with Kevin Burkhardt]]'''Crusader Cat''' (Brown house Cat) is a fursuiter who attends Anthrocon, FA: United, New Year Furry Ball, and Delaware Furbowl..<br /> <br /> ==== Fur Affinity ban ====<br /> In 2009 after tremendous backlash as a result of Crusader Cat being open about his (former) religious beliefs, several users uploaded submissions with intent to harass him. Crusader Cat filed multiple trouble tickets, but was rejected by the administration. After over a month of this, Crusader Cat threatened legal action as an act of desperation, while some of the offending submissions were removed, Crusader Cat was banned.<br /> <br /> ==== Controversy ====<br /> Multiple individuals have claimed that Crusader Cat is homophobic and a zoophile. These claims stem from comments he made implying homosexuality is a “sin” and a document supposedly created by him giving graphic details about bestiality. Crusader Cat denies that he is “homophobic”, and claims that the “document” is a forgery. So far, no furry (homosexual or otherwise) has come forward and claimed to be hurt or mistreated by him.<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> <br /> * [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/CrusaderCat/ Crusader Cat] on Furaffinity<br /> * [http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/User:Crusader_Cat Crusader's explanation of events in his own words]<br /> <br /> [[Category:People]]<br /> [[Category:Fursuiters]]<br /> [[Category:Cat characters]]<br /> [[Category:1987 births]]</div>

Crusader Cat //en.wikifur.com/wiki/User:Crusader_Cat 2014-03-16T17:55:07Z

<p>Crusader Cat: </p> <hr /> <div>I will attempt to clear up any rumors, slander, and libel that those of the “tolerant” furry community see fit to spread about me. First I will start a list of rumors that I am aware of, give an explanation from my perspective as to why this stuff has happened to me, and give clarification on why I feel this needs to be said.<br /> == Rumors ==<br /> === The &quot;homophobia&quot; rumor ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I hate gays, I attempted a gay genocide at Anthrocon, I support “kill the gays” laws.<br /> <br /> TRUTH: I never said anything about hating gays, and I sure as hell never threatened or attempted to harm another gay (or human being) in my life. When I look through my contact lists, I find that I don’t actually have any heterosexual friends. Specifically the claim that I attempted a “gay genocide” at Anthrocon was created by Insane Kangaroo in an ironic attempt to harm me with a flash mob he was planning.<br /> <br /> === The Furaffinity Rumor ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I threatened to sue Fur Affinity for being anti-Christian<br /> <br /> TRUTH: [[David Ross | Insane Kangaroo]] uploaded a submission of my fursona receiving anal sex with “raptor jesus” after reporting him twice, two administrators ([http://www.furaffinity.net/user/xaerun Xearun] and [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/tsawolf TSAwolf]) refused to remove them. They didn’t simply ignore me, they weren’t being lazy, they sent me a private message REFUSEING to enforce their own rules. Since I was well versed in the FA rules regarding harassment, I did the right thing by posting in the FA forums about this. Within one hour, the forum post was deleted; not locked, deleted. Within one day, my account was banned, and I was subjected to public humiliation since then. While I did threaten a lawsuit, the supposed reasons for it are false (More on this later). By the way, I’m not a Christian anymore, so I guess the joke’s on them.<br /> <br /> === The Bestiality Rumor ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I am a zoophile.<br /> <br /> TRUTH: I am not guilty of zoophilia, and any evidence that was presented on ED was completely fabricated. I don’t know who wrote the document but it is clear from the bad spelling and laughable claims that whoever made this wanted some fun at my expense.<br /> <br /> === The Suicide Rumor ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I am/was suicidal.<br /> <br /> TRUTH: This one was surprising, considering how fast it spread. It started shortly before Anthrocon. After AC, pics of me were popping up saying “He’s still alive guys” and stuff like that. It’s the only rumor about me that ended before I even heard about it. It still pops up every once in a while. Apparently minding my own business is the same thing as being dead according to the internet.<br /> <br /> === The Murder Rumors ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I have a list of people to kill<br /> <br /> TRUTH: While having a list is handy, one of that nature serves me no purpose.<br /> <br /> === More Murder Rumors ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I attempted to assassinate former president Bill Clinton.<br /> <br /> TRUTH: The former president came to my college campus campaigning for Hillary. The details of this rumor involve me getting tackled by the secret service for running across campus with something hidden under my coat. What I was carrying was a megaphone, I was later told the college staff that I was not allowed to have it, I handed it over and it was returned to me after Clinton left.<br /> <br /> === The &quot;Retarded&quot; Rumor ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I believe in God because I’m schizophrenic.<br /> <br /> TRUTH: Religion is not a mental illness, deal with it.<br /> <br /> === The Brainwashing Rumor ===<br /> <br /> LIE: I was raped/brainwashed by a priest as a kid.<br /> <br /> TRUTH: Baptists don’t have priests, they have pastors. And according to the CIA, brainwashing is [http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/lsd/marks8.htm not possible]. I didn’t start practicing Christianity until I was around 10. I stopped practicing at age 22 when I was blackmailed by Insane Kangaroo.<br /> == Why did this happen? ==<br /> === Why does everyone say I “hate” gays? ===<br /> This one I can chock up to being something called a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecutory_delusion persecution complex]. On furaffinity, I have only mentioned homosexuality ONCE and that was because someone asked me about it. Here is what happened (note: this isn’t paraphrased):<br /> Other furry: “I’m just curious, what is your opinion on gay marriage”<br /> Me: “The Bible says it’s a sin, so that’s what I believe”<br /> Other furry: “OMG HOW DARE YOU YOU’RE A HATEFUL BIGOT”<br /> Since homosexuality is not an issue I really care that much about, I chose never to talk about it that much. It was never an issue with me, but was always an issue with them. So this whole homophobia myth is rooted in furries who couldn’t keep their mouths shut. My “crime” is simply giving an opinion when I was asked.<br /> === Why did I threaten to “sue” furaffinity? ===<br /> One of the biggest mistakes I made was joining furaffinity in the first place. Had I known how intolerant everyone was of Christians, I would have saved myself a world of hurt and humiliation. But other than that, none of what happened was my fault.<br /> “A user may not intentionally harass, slander, or disrupt another user of the site, or, through inaction, allow another user to come to be harassed.” <br /> So we know from this rule, Insane Kangaroo was intentionally violating the FA rules by harassing me, and the administrators Xearun and TSAwolf were also violating the rules by allowing me to be harassed (note that the [http://help.furaffinity.net/article/AA-01065/0/Code-of-Conduct-COC.html rules] have changed since then). Before I was banned I received about 80 messages a day on FA, on average 78-79 of them were death threats, people blaspheming and attacking Christianity, calling me a NAZI, and even threatening my family. The most shocking part is that some of this hate came from the admins! To my knowledge NOT ONE USER who threatened me was punished. Not surprisingly, Insane Kangaroo was friends with Dragoneer for a while, which means the deck was stacked against me. Luckily, Dragoneer knows better now. My attempt to “sue” FA was simply an empty threat I made out of desperation. In the end it worked, the offending submissions were removed. I could have prevented all of this by staying away from FA, and Dragoneer could have prevented this by simply doing the job he was morally obligated to do.<br /> === Why does everyone call me a “catfucker”? ===<br /> This is basically the furry version of Godwins law, if someone disagrees with you, they must be a zoophile. The term is probably derived from the old anti-furry slur “[[skunkfucker]]” from the 1980’s. Skunk was clearly changed cat because my fursona is a cat. If you pay attention to furry behavior, furries extrapolate conclusions based on the most flimsy evidence. All they have is a phony document and a few Photoshop hack jobs found on ED (a site known for making off the wall claims). FAF administrator [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/chase Chase] and popular artist/coder [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/zaush Zaush] are other examples of how furries affirm the consequent.<br /> === Why does everyone think I’m clinically retarded? ===<br /> This is another case of affirming the consequent. Their train of thought goes like this: “Belief in God is illogical, you are a creationist, therefore, you are stupid.&quot;<br /> === If your ban was unfair, why wasn’t it overturned? ===<br /> Many of my friends on FA saw fit to stand up for me in the one place I can’t. Unfortunately, they did so without my prior permission, and even against my expressed wishes. I don’t mind when someone defends me, but what happened was full on White-Knighting, and that is not something I condone. Trying to defend yourself on the website you’ve been banned from for years is already and uphill battle, but it’s made worse when misguided friends appoint themselves as a defense attorney when they don’t know what their client is accused of.<br /> === What about you and Dragoneer? ===<br /> Things have always been tense between us. Despite that, Dragoneer has put up with multiple appeals to unban me from furaffintiy and let bygones be bygones. Unfortunately, every single one of these ended badly (none of which were Dragoneers fault). Then, at Anthrocon 2011, he came to me in person and said since I was a good boy at FA:United, my account would be unbanned in three months. Nearly two years later (yes I’m that patient), nothing happened. So I enquired to Dragoneer via email why nothing has happened. His response was depressing and petty:<br /> “I really didn't see a reason to unban your account since your decision was to insult the offer after we tried to be polite and reach out.”<br /> The “insult” he is referring to is a joke I told about inkbunny. This is what I said:<br /> “Well, it’s ok if you decide not to unban me ‘cause Inkbunny has better porn anyway”. <br /> The obvious joke was that since I think IB is superior (I don’t) I must be a pedophile with an interest in Cub Porn. The joke was so obvious that Dragoneers [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/sciggles fiancé] (who is now his wife) actually burst out laughing. There is no way he could have misinterpreted what I said, so it’s clear he was just looking for an excuse to keep me off his website. Either way, he and I are on friendly enough terms that he allows me to attend FA:United every year, and since I rather enjoy that convention, I take that as a good gesture.<br /> === What about you and Insane Kangaroo? ===<br /> There’s no way I can say this kindly; IK is a criminal, a bigot, and a bully. He has personally harassed my family, and my college professors, all under the delusion that he was “helping” me. He tried to report me to the police TWICE for bestiality (I suspect he even wrote the fake “confession”) His attempt at a flash mob at Anthrocon resulted in me reporting him to security, one month later, he was banned. Eventually, I finally managed to report him to the FBI for the blackmail I was living under for almost a year, and I was told he lost his job as a result. He is now one of the most hated furries in the fandom. Since Insane Kangaroo cannot compete with the long arm of the law, his harassment of me (which still continues to this day) is reduced to nothing more than lame trolling attempts. It is no exaggeration that all of the suffering I have endured is his fault.<br /> == Conclusion ==<br /> For a long time, I tried to ignore all that happened to me and not dwell on the past. It hasn’t worked. I have this painful desire to get this off my chest because I noticed most people only seem to have one side of the story. I hear people murmuring about me when they think I’m out of earshot, I want to speak for myself instead of having a nameless anonymous collective source seizing my identity and corrupting people's perception of who I am before they ever get a chance to meet me. What made the fandom fun in the first place has been taken from me. It hurts myself and it hurts others by forcing them to judge me without ever meeting me. I leave you with this quote about me from an anonymous furry I never met. This is what an unbiased view looks like, when I think of the Furry Fandom, I think of this:<br /> “All these people keep saying what a terrible person Crusader Cat is. Yet I have yet to hear a single person come forward and say there were mistreated by him. Heck, I’ve been at parties where he’s been present. He kept to himself and didn’t bother anyone. Socially awkward? Perhaps. Deserving of scorn? Hardly.”</div>

Crusader Cat //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Crusader_Cat 2014-03-16T17:07:51Z

<p>Crusader Cat: </p> <hr /> <div>[[File:15154401.jpg|thumb|Crusader Cat in his fursuit at [[Anthrocon 2009]] with Kevin Burkhardt]]'''Crusader Cat''' (Brown house Cat) is a fursuiter who attends Anthrocon, FA: United, New Year Furry Ball, and Delaware Furbowl..<br /> <br /> ==== Fur Affinity ban ====<br /> In 2009 after tremendous backlash as a result of Crusader Cat being open about his (former) religious beliefs, several users uploaded submissions with intent to harass him. Crusader Cat filed multiple trouble tickets, but was rejected by the administration. After over a month of this, Crusader Cat threatened legal action as an act of desperation, while some of the offending submissions were removed, Crusader Cat was banned.<br /> <br /> ==== Controversy ====<br /> Multiple individuals have claimed that Crusader Cat is homophobic and a zoophile. These claims stem from comments he made implying homosexuality is a “sin” and a document supposedly created by him giving graphic details about bestiality. Crusader Cat denies that he is “homophobic”, and claims that the “document” is a forgery. So far, no furry (homosexual or otherwise) has come forward and claimed to be hurt or mistreated by him.<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> <br /> * [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/CrusaderCat/ Crusader Cat] on Furaffinity<br /> <br /> [[Category:People]]<br /> [[Category:Fursuiters]]<br /> [[Category:Cat characters]]<br /> [[Category:1987 births]]</div>

Crusader Cat //en.wikifur.com/wiki/User:Crusader_Cat 2014-03-15T17:40:05Z

<p>Crusader Cat: Blanked the page</p> <hr /> <div></div>

Crusader Cat //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Talk:Crusader_Cat 2009-09-30T17:23:54Z

<p>Crusader Cat: </p> <hr /> <div>Crusader Cat is editing his own WikiFur page to obfuscate the fact that he has admitted to sexual abuse of animals. He has written his article to hide the fact that the reason furries are angry with him is not because he is a Christian, but rather that he is using his religious beliefs to project his crimes onto others not guilty of his sin of animal rape.--[[Special:Contributions/150.131.162.41|150.131.162.41]] 17:41, 16 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Controversial claims must not only be well sourced, but when it is about a person, there must be a good argument why the information should be made public. Just because something is true doesn't necessarily mean it belongs here. If you wish to continue your efforts to include the information in the article, please register an account to do so. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 16:28, 17 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Absolutely! Unfortunately, Crusader Cat has deleted the Adobe Acrobat PDF file from his FurAffinity account where he describes, in graphic detail, of sexually abusing his pets. Before Crusader Cat deleted his PDF file confessing animal sexual abuse from FurAffinity, I saved it to my computer. I would be happy to expose all supporting documents of Crusader Cat's confession of sexually abusing his pets if you would kindly link to me a document describing how I might upload these documents directly to WikiFur.<br /> <br /> ::I not only have that PDF file saved to my computer as evidence of his crime, but the video I sourced in Crusader Cat's article, that you deleted, shows Crusader Cat confessing to molesting his pets. Anyone reading this, interested in watching Crusader Cat admit to sexually abusing his pets, can go through the history of the Crusader Cat article and find the video sourced in a previous version of the article of Crusader Cat confessing to sexually abusing his animals.<br /> <br /> ::The integrity of WikiFur is at stake when people guilty of serious crimes can produce false articles depicting themselves as clean, moral, and decent people. A false &quot;Crusader&quot; who is actually more guilty of the crime of animal sexual abuse than most all furries should never be tolerated to hide his past. How would you like it if a criminal donned the title &quot;crusader&quot; and then came to your social group commanding you and your friends to repent of a crime none of you had committed -- but he had? That is what is happening here, and Crusader Cat is exploiting WikiFur as the source of documentation of the furry fandom to whitewash his past. Crusader Cat pretends like those who disagree with him hate him for being a Christian when the reality is that he is hated because he sexually molested his pets and then approached furries as a saint offering forgiveness when he is the one who needs forgiveness for his detestable crime of animal rape.<br /> <br /> ::No one should be allowed to use WikiFur as a platform to produce a sparkling clean article about themselves when reality is quite different. No one should be allowed to drum up support for a cause, when they themselves are in gross violation of the cause they purport to represent without exposure of the facts of their past crimes. No one guilty of serious crimes should use WikiFur to falsely portray themselves as a pious angel of religious indemnity while feigning innocence and condemning others. The truth is that those people Crusader Cat claims are &quot;haters of Christianity&quot; are, in actuality, angry of Crusader Cat's sexual abuse of animals followed by falsely accusing others guilty of his crime while pretentiously wrapping himself up in a cloak of holiness. <br /> <br /> ::Again, I would be happy to expose all supporting documents of Crusader Cat's confession of sexually abusing his pets if you would kindly link to me a document describing how I might upload these documents directly to WikiFur. Why should a animal molestor, such as Crusader Cat, be allowed to make himself a sparkling clean article of himself as a Crusader against sexual abuse without exposing his own past as a animal abuser? Seems to me, Crusader Cat is more guilty of the crime of animal sex abuse than most of the furries he condemns. -- [[Special:Contributions/150.131.162.175|150.131.162.175]] 20:53, 17 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Just tell me, who are you on FA? Assuming of course your a furry and not a troll. {{unsigned|Crusader Cat}}<br /> <br /> == I support including this information here. ==<br /> <br /> Crusader Cat has written this article in order to show himself in the best possible light. This is human nature and is to be expected. However, WikiFur should not be used for whitewashing one’s past. CC is disliked by many due to his sexual abuse of animals, and while CC claims that he is disliked for being Christian, the real reason for many peoples dislike should be shown.<br /> <br /> To 150.131.162.175, please create an account here and start the process of formally adding this information. I did not save CC's PDF file. [[Special:Contributions/173.45.201.98|173.45.201.98]] 11:03, 18 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Additionally: I would like to point out that CC has responded to 150.131.162.175 on FA. I can only assume he presumes FA a better venue for the discussion.<br /> :&quot;Stop wasting your time, the admin there are not retarded and aren't going to fall for your tricks. What you are doing is illegal, immoral, and cowardly. People have tried this to me before and their IP's got banned, Yours will too soon and all hope of doing anything there will be gone for good.&quot;<br /> :http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/788774/<br /> : [[Special:Contributions/173.45.201.98|173.45.201.98]] 11:07, 18 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I am hated because I am a Christian, much of the hate mail I received was from people who had no knowledge of what I have done. Check the link and you will see that there is no recorded message of someone getting angry with me because of mistakes I made. I wrote this article to portray myself in the most neutral possible light. This article was altered to portray myself in the worst possible light. the Admins knew this and that's why they called him out on it. It is well within my right to respond to the other guy through other mediums (assuming he's on FA) and is not the busness of the admins here. Thus, this new information is just as useless as the previous information. {{unsigned|Crusader Cat}}<br /> <br /> :We at Wikifur make an effort to be good neighbors in the furry community. A part of that deals with how we handle derogatory or controversial information about people. Most if not all of us have done things in that past that are less than admirable; we are not about digging up dirt on people. Our policy on such information is that in order for it to be allowable on the site, first, we hold it to a higher standard of verifiability than most other information on the site, and second, that a good case can be made that it is in the public interest of furry fandom that this information be made public. <br /> :The claim has been made that Crusader Cat has sexually abused animals in the past. I have not reviewed the evidence enough to form an opinion of whether that's true, but even if it is, I'm not convinced it belongs here. I will review the available information later on (I can't do it right now because I'm at work and my employer blocks access to a couple of the websites where the information resides). If this appears to be something that he is currently practicing and advocating, I might be convinced to change my mind, but if it's only past transgressions or questionable accusations we're talking about here, I probably won't. (Disclaimer: This is one admin's opinion; other admins may have differing views on how best to handle this situation.)<br /> :By the way, I'm a furry Christian and I've never received any hate mail because of it. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 17:33, 18 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: The reason I believe the information should be included is CC's desire to claim persecution solely for being Christian. Whereas many dislike him for what he's done in the past (and claiming other furries do). Thank you for your professionalism, by the way, not every 'Christian' is willing to listen to reason in situations where an evangelical is arguing against others. --[[Special:Contributions/173.45.201.98|173.45.201.98]] 23:52, 18 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::While the claim itself is true, the recent edit by this person was created in such a way to create a mental slant against me. When you have the time, check out the youtube video or the essay on furtopia. I myself have admitted here on Wikifur that I have had struggles with bestiality, that's all anyone coming here needs to know, they don't need to know the nasty details of what I have done, if they can then they can easily check the links provided. Nor do the people coming here need to know the ins and outs of what I have said in the essay (i.e. telling exactly what segments of the video in witch I am making a claim) Also, the claim that many people hate me for what I have done is inaccurate. Very few people got angry because of this, and this person is obviously one of them. Once again, check the link and see that there is no evidence that I have documented which makes mention of zoophile bashing hate messages. While I am currently struggling with bestiality, I am not practicing, and I am most definitely not advocating it (as you will see by reading the essay). I am glad to find that you also are a Christian, and envy you for the peace you have experienced among the fandom. Presumably, God has called you as a witness to someone else other than furries so you are not actively involved in trying to bring more furrs to Christ. That being said, it is understandable if no other furrs have persecuted you, I hope your association with me will not bring any undeserved hatred on you. I trust and pray that you and the other admins will make a wise decision. {{unsigned|Crusader Cat}} -- confirmable at http://en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Crusader_Cat&amp;action=history 18:36, 18 June 2009 Crusader Cat<br /> <br /> :::I have a question, Crusader Cat. If you have nothing to hide about your criminal past as you claim, why have you attempted to blank the mere discussion of your user article (the page you are reading right now) multiple times? Check the history ( http://en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Crusader_Cat&amp;action=history ) of this page ( [[Talk:Crusader Cat]] ) for proof of your attempts to blank this page four times. --[[Special:Contributions/150.131.162.92|150.131.162.92]] 21:48, 18 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Now that I've had a chance to review both YouTube videos on my own time, I stand by what I said earlier. Referring to Crusader Cat's past acts as a &quot;criminal past&quot; is questionable at best and putting a pejorative spin on it at the minimum. I could say a lot more but there are better places for it than a Wikifur talk page. At this time I see no reason to include any more negative statements about CC than what he has included on his own. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 03:58, 19 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I was not aware that this needed to remain up for historical reasons. After seeing it re uploaded several times, I was told by one of the other admins here that It had to stay up, now that this drama is basically over I might be deleted again (unless the admins say other wise). what you posted here is no different from the other times people come here to harass me, thus I did not feel it belonged here. But since it apparently does, it can be a record of your bias and hatred toward someone who is just doing what his God asked of him.{{unsigned|Crusader Cat }}<br /> <br /> ::CC, please remember to indent responses and sign them. Four tilde's will do it. Also, it is generally considered bad form to clear discussions, especially considering as this discussion has been civil, despite what you claim. Leaving this discussion will show that the issue has been brought up and discussed. [[Special:Contributions/173.45.201.98|173.45.201.98]] 12:40, 19 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I don't know how to indent. This discussing has been anything but civil from your end. Civil people don't do the sick things you have done to get revenge on me. You still didn't tell me who you were on FA, assuming you have an account there.{{unsigned|Crusader Cat }}<br /> <br /> :::: You never asked me, I found this from your own page. /My/ FA user name is Irbisgreif. I don't know who [[Special:Contributions/206.127.78.65|206.127.78.65]] is. Perhaps if you noted styles this would have been obvious, as I have made no effort to hide who I am. [[Special:Contributions/173.45.201.98|173.45.201.98]] 21:30, 20 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Use colons to indent. You should know that I, [[Special:Contributions/206.127.78.65|206.127.78.65]] 16:55, 20 June 2009 (UTC), am different from [[Special:Contributions/173.45.201.98|173.45.201.98]]. There are at least two people on this page other than you and the moderator. Know that I consider you very lucky -- and sheltered -- for an animal molester who has openly admitted to trying to get your kittens to &quot;lick&quot; your genitals and many other bad things you did to your kittens that, you admit, made them decide to scratch you for (I still have that PDF file, remember). <br /> <br /> ::::It's not that fact that you are a Christian that makes me angry. I know many Christians who are decent people. I like them. <br /> <br /> ::::The fact that you molested animals makes me very angry, but that alone is not enough to make me want to chase you to the ends of the Earth, since you have found Jesus and are no longer molesting animals. If religion keeps you from sexually abusing animals, I'm very grateful for Christianity's existence, indeed. However, the fact that you are projecting your animal abuse onto other people who haven't done things that you have done, just makes me want to hate-kill you.<br /> <br /> ::::Here's how the argument went over at Furaffinity:<br /> <br /> ::::''Crusader Cat: I was abusing animals before I found [[furotica]]. [[Furotica]] makes me happy in my pants, and [[furotica]] makes me want to abuse animals. I have abused animals, and I like [[furotica]] (and I associate the shame I feel when I abuse my pets with [[furotica]]), but Jesus has set me free, so all you furries should repent before you end up like me!''<br /> <br /> ::::''Furries: Hey, idiot! We don't find real animals arousing in the same way we don't find retarded people arousing. We haven't molested animals like you have done, nor are we compelled to. Stop projecting your sins onto others.''<br /> <br /> ::::''Crusader Cat: Stop hating me because I'm a Christian! I'm going to go make a WikiFur article about myself how I told the furries to repent of their heathen animal molesting ways and then how they attacked me because I'm a Christian. Oh, AND I'll leave out all the details about how I molested my pets to make myself look like a saint.''<br /> <br /> ::::Admittedly, your article admits that you &quot;struggle with bestiality&quot;, but that statement seems to confer that you are just resisting temptation -- not that you have actually given into your urges and have actually abused your pets, which you have done. Anyway, it's a moot point now, the mods have made their decision to let you get away with your article as it is. Just color me not impressed. -- [[Special:Contributions/206.127.78.65|206.127.78.65]] 16:55, 20 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::If molesting animals makes you angry, than give me what I deserve (Personally, I would go for Exodus 22:19) But if you don't want to do that, then at least report what I have done, since ti's illegal in America. Religion doesn't keep me from what I did, Jesus does. I am not projecting what I did on to anyone else because they didn't do what I did. I am saying don't do what I did, and people get angry for it for no reason at all. If you met someone who was a drug addict and he beat the habit, and went around speaking to encourage others not to make his mistake, would you get angry at him like he did to me? Or would you get angry at someone who called him a junky and make fun of him for his past? The Vast majority of the hate messages I received were either from people who had no idea of what I did, or didn't care. If someone calls me a filthy cat fucker, then I don't nearly mind it as much as other comments I received, because I know they have a good reason to call me that. The only honest part of that discussion is the first line (written in the wrong format, but that's just the play write in me) No one thought I was stupid for making connections like that, they were either pissed that I was asking them to come to Jesus or discussed at what I had done. This is a very pathetic staw man and is the latest in the train of lies against me. I wrote this article after I came back from Anthrocon last year, it contained no mention of what I did because I didn't admit it publicly yet. I wrote it so if someone asked about me and I didn't have time, I could just tell them to check me out here. There was nothing wrong with the way I wrote it (except for a few spelling errors) It was from an unbiased POV which is what it's supposed to be, if it was written to make me look like Billy Graham, then the Admis would have taken care of it. I left the nasty details because I wanted it to be G rated. They don't need to find the nick nacks here, if they want them then they can just as easily look up the video I provided. When I say I struggle, I mean that I'm fighting the urge, Most of the time I win, but in some cases, I lose. That's what struggle is. If I was simply resisting, then It wouldn't be a struggle. The hole drama surrounding this article was that details about what happened here placed here without any other purpose than presenting me in a negative light instead of a neutral light.{{unsigned|Crusader Cat }}<br /> <br /> ::::::&quot;Bla Bla Bla Bla&quot; LISTEN! '''You are rejected, not because you are a Christian, but because you are an animal molester using religion to condemn others innocent of your criminal activity.''' ''Even furries into [[furotica]] are not going to sexually violate their pets. Adult human beings can give consent for sexual intercourse regardless of how kinky their sex lives are. Most adult furries -- even furries into [[furotica]] -- have sex with humans. We human beings prefer sex with other human beings. The furries who have sex with beasts are ostracised by the furry community.''<br /> <br /> ::::::Unfortunately, Crusader Cat, [[furotica]] is going to attract people who want to sexually violate animals into furry fandom. Read: ANIMAL MOLESTERS LIKE YOU. Animal molesters, like you Crusader Cat, are an evil minority that, unfortunately, exists in the furry community -- as long as they don't identify themselves to other furries. As soon as animal molesters identify themselves, they get tossed out on their ass. It is noteworthy fact that if you, Crusader Cat, hadn't used the &quot;God bandaid&quot; to excuse your animal molestation -- &quot;Oh, I believe in Jesus now, so it's okay&quot; -- you would have found yourself thrown out of the furry community with the rest of the trash.<br /> <br /> ::::::Crusader Cat, because you have sexually abused your animals, you are more of a sick bastard than 99.99% of the Furry community, and have no more credibility than a child molester going down to the nearest public shopping mall and telling everyone there to repent of pedophilia. You are detested by even those who are only tempted to sexually abuse animals, because you took your sick fantasy into reality and molested actual animals -- multiple times. <br /> <br /> ::::::Yes, yes, all us furries are glad that you have found Jesus and are no longer molesting your pets. Please take your exuberance elsewhere. You need to acknowledge that you are a sick bastard who has sexually abused your pets and that most people, even most furries -- even most furries into [[furotica]] -- have no interest in sexually violating their pets. The only furries who sexually abuse their pets are furries like you, Crusader Cat, and the rest of us human beings detest furries like you. -- [[Special:Contributions/150.131.162.59|150.131.162.59]] 15:39, 22 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::::Enough! If you want to conduct a discussion on the content of this or any other article on Wikifur, you are expected to do it in a civil and diplomatic manner. Your comments are way over the line into name-calling and harassment. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 16:21, 22 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::I'm just trying to understand the disagreement here. Since the video is still up on Youtube, I'm assuming you don't mind your fetishes being public, just that the IPs aren't putting it into the right context or they are doing editorializing of their own? --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 22:55, 20 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::Maybe I can help. Crusader Cat is a penitent (remorseful) animal molester who has found Jesus and is out to &quot;cleanse&quot; the fandom of all the [[furotica]], which he believes, leads people to molest their pets like he did. The conflict with Crusader Cat is that his WikiFur article claims that people &quot;hate&quot; him for being a Christian, rather than for what he really is -- an animal molester in a public shopping mall telling everyone to repent of bestiality. -- [[Special:Contributions/150.131.162.59|150.131.162.59]] 16:09, 22 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Trying to be objective about this... ==<br /> <br /> Okay, after following the discussion and debate about the content of this article for several days, and reviewing the content of the article, I'm trying to be objective about what is appropriate. First, consider that the article is in the main article space and as such is subject to editing by any user of the site so long as it's done in good faith and in compliance with standards that apply across the site. Second, I think some of the current content might be more appropriate for [[User:Crusader Cat|Crusader Cat's user page]] rather than the article about him, since he can say pretty much whatever he wants to about himself on his user page whereas the article about him needs to comply with sitewide guidelines on articles about people. The section about receiving hate mail is probably in the latter category. While it doesn't quite say that the mail is due to his Christian beliefs, it also doesn't give what is apparently the real reason for at least some of the hate mail. Thus I think it best to simply remove the section in its entirety. Crusader Cat is welcome to put it in his user page if he wishes. Third, I think [[User:Rat|Rat]] has a valid point in asking why Crusader Cat is opposed to including something here that he's publicly admitted to in other venues. It looks to me like those trying to include the information are doing so in a manner to put a negative spin on it. As I've said before, Wikifur's policy is to respect the wishes of anyone with regard to what gets excluded from the article about them unless a good case can be made why the information should be made public. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 17:18, 22 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Okay, here is a little back story for those who lived through the 1980s. In 1980, ''Michelle Remembers'' by Lawrence Pazder was published, documenting a patient of his who was involved in satanic cults, witchcraft, and repressed memories. Many conservative Christians jumped on this, and soon after, the Satanic Ritual Abuse moral panic began to sweep the country. This, along with the writings of Rebeca Brown became the basis of many sermons about the evil conspiracy of children being sacrificed and moonlight orgies, and summoning of demons, along with the evil of Ouija boards and Dungeons and Dragons. The talk show circuit was full of programs about these conspiracies and the evils of such supposed groups. People who claimed that they were seduced by Satanic groups were coming out of the woodwork - usually conservative Christians, claiming they converted after leaving (escaping) such groups. People were put in trial based on these allegations. The McMartin preschool trial was a prime example of this. However these Satanic groups never existed, or were simply misrepresented non-christian religions (some conservative Christians view most, if not all non-christian religions as Satanic) in which the claimants had never participated. By the 1990s, independent investigations finally began to debunk Lawrence Pazder, Rebeka Brown, and the other proponents of Satanic Ritual claims. The reason I bring up SRA, is to call into question Crusader Cat's claims of what he did in the past. I've not read the PDF file in question, but I'm not convinced that any of this is true. He may merely be using this story of his fall into sin and debauchery, his finding Jesus Christ, and the struggle to overcome this. I believe he's using this issue to create a wedge-issue in furry as a way of causing as much disruption within furry, as he can. He has made statements equating sexual anthropomorphism art to bestiality and trying to extend said definitions as part of his anti-yiff campaign. It's very likely he wrote his PDF to make a point, likely a religious point, not as something merely autobiographical. --[[User:Lutriawolfe|Lutriawolfe]] 21:43, 15 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I assure you, what happened is accurate, do not make alogations like this until you can proove it. --[[User:Crusader Cat|Crusader Cat]] 16:26, 20 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: I just find this kinda far fetched unless your penis is the size of a nipple. You seem to be the kind who would go into a spiraling wave of guilt because you pitched a tent while petting your cats, then cry bestiality (&quot;It's the thought that counts in God's eyes&quot;). I'd say the burden of proof is on you. --[[User:Lutriawolfe|Lutriawolfe]] 21:02, 21 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Actually most of the problems he was having with people on FA prior to his being banned, was actually due to disparaging remarks he made about homosexuality. He would quote bible verses such as Leviticus 20:13, and link to [http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/Sodomy/homoviolence.htm the following Christian homophobic web site] to support his homophobia. Of course he'd receive a backlash in the comments, then delete his journal and post a new one claiming that people hate him because he's Christian. I guess this eventually came to a head, where he began to attack the FA administrators for supposed discrimination, before ultimately being banned.--[[User:Lutriawolfe|Lutriawolfe]] 20:11, 16 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Please refrain from personal attacks (i.e. &quot;Homophobia&quot;) Plese also refrain from lying, I did not remove the journals because I was trying to hide something, I did it because me and my friends were getting a lot of harassment. All I did was say what the Bible says about gays, and provided factal evidence to support my claims. This is what Christians do, make a claim and back it up, this is why I'm persecuted for my faith, because I make a claim and back it up. --[[User:Crusader Cat|Crusader Cat]] 16:31, 20 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::First of all &quot;homophobia&quot; isn't a personal attack. Stop trying to make yourself look like the victim here. Lutriawolfe did not accuse you of removing the journals because you were hiding something - in fact, she AGREED with you that the reason you removed them was because you were harassed. Are you even reading things before you post? And please, don't tell me you think you can post anti-homosexual material on a website that has a large majority of homosexual and bisexual members and think you won't get harassed for it. You're asking for it by posting journals like that, and you know it. You aren't the victim here. [[User:BaronVonYiffington|BaronVonYiffington]] 23:35, 20 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Yes it is, it is a derogatory term to demonise those who do not homosexuality sacred. I am the victum here, I NEVER posted anything anti gay on FA unless someone asked me. &quot;then delete his journal and post a new one claiming that people hate him because he's Christian.&quot; That's what you wrote, impling that I have something to hide. If you agreed with me, then you wouldn't have even mentioned that. I never broke any of the rules on FA, I never spammed or harassed anyone. I never showed any one anythign offensive unless the specifically asked me. Stop lying, your not good at it. --[[Crusader_Cat|Crusader Cat]] 16:21, 21 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::: Would you go into a mosque or synagogue to try to &quot;spread the word&quot; there? Would you go onto someone else's places of worship and tell them to their faces that their practices and beliefs are wrong? That would be seen as provocative and get you physically kicked out, or worse. Preaching homophobia on FA could be seen as the same thing. And by the way, just because it's in the bible doesn't make it right. The rules for owning, buying and selling of slaves is in the bible, and that's not something seen as right, these days. And there are things far worse that makes most Christians cringe before quietly ignoring them. --[[User:Lutriawolfe|Lutriawolfe]] 21:30, 21 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::: You've also advocated the execution of gays in a Livejournal post, as well as linked to fundamentalist Christian homophobic web sites. --[[User:Lutriawolfe|Lutriawolfe]] 02:15, 22 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::No, no it isn't, and nobody is being demonized. You really need to read comments before replying to them - I never once said that. That was Lutriawolfe, not me. I am BaronVonYiffington. And yeah, totally. You never broke any rules on FA - you got banned for nothing. Right, that's believable. However, I didn't accuse you of spamming or harassing anyone, so please don't put words in my mouth. Why you think these comments are coming from me, I have no idea, but you come across extremely hostile. I have not accused you of anything. However, you are a bad liar. &quot;Never showed anyone anything offensive?&quot; Let's see, you yourself said, in the comment two above this one:<br /> <br /> :::::&quot;All I did was say what the Bible says about gays, and provided factal evidence to support my claims.&quot;<br /> <br /> :::::That is offensive to gays, because it is anti-homosexual. I'm probably right in assuming your little magic space-man worship book is negative towards gays, meaning it IS offensive. --[[User:BaronVonYiffington|BaronVonYiffington]] 20:32, 21 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == No more white knighting ==<br /> <br /> For anyone tired of Crusadercat editing his own page to white knight and clear his own slate, I have begun an article on Encyclopedia Dramatica about him. Wikifur does not allow linking to ED, so you will have to go to ED and search for &quot;Crusadercat&quot; on your own. If anyone has information that is relevant to what he has done, but does not want to post it here due to fear of any sort, add it to the ED article. I realize that ED isn't exactly the best place to have a civil discussion, but at least we can put information there without having CC blank it. [[User:BaronVonYiffington|BaronVonYiffington]] 06:54, 20 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : for the record, i do not knowing crusader cat. my interest was to cleaning article up and make more factual and less speculation, and practice english grammar in process.<br /> : --[[User:Ayukawataur|Ayukawataur : FurBid-SF Administaur]] 09:50, 20 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: LOL, the banana thing is very funny, when Christians fundamentalists use the banana as a proof of God's creation and being an atheist's nightmare, because of how perfect it is. Obviously those people have not seen a REAL banana. [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/eb/Inside_a_wild-type_banana.jpg Here] is a picture of a real banana as nature has intended. Wild bananas are sad little masses of husk and seeds that would not win any culinary awards. However, they are correct, our bananas didn't evolve, they were created, though their creator is humans. Thousands of years of selective breeding have given us the curved yellow seedless delight. --[[User:Lutriawolfe|Lutriawolfe]] 20:38, 21 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Checking through the history of the talk page, I see that Crusader Cat tried to delete the entire &quot;No more white knighting&quot; category. Why is that? Something on there you want hidden, on a site where you can't put spin on it? --[[User:BaronVonYiffington|BaronVonYiffington]] 20:46, 21 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Double Standards ==<br /> Hey CrusaderCat, may I ask why you reported several dozen pieces for &quot;hate speech&quot; and &quot;anti-christianity&quot;, which led to your banning on FA, but have several anti-atheist pieces in your gallery? I refer of course to things such as: http://crusadercat.deviantart.com/art/The-Atheist-136647204 , where you say being an atheist makes you lack common sense, http://crusadercat.deviantart.com/art/No-atheists-in-fox-holes-137003662 , where you say Atheists don't exist and therefor cannot be soldiers, or http://crusadercat.deviantart.com/art/The-atheist-nightmare-137010787 where you say bananas give Atheists nightmares. Why is it okay for you to report anyone with anti-christian art for &quot;hate speech&quot; when you have anti-atheist hate speech in your own gallery? --[[User:BaronVonYiffington|BaronVonYiffington]] 03:21, 21 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :If people can post anti-Christian crap and get away with it, then I can post anti-atheist stuff and get away with it. --[[Crusader_Cat|Crusader Cat]] 16:22 21 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Really, is that what they teach Christians now a days? Eye for an eye? Two wrongs don't make a right... that's something Jesus would say, right? Just because you can get away with it, doesn't mean you should do it. That is VERY un-Christian-like. --[[User:BaronVonYiffington|BaronVonYiffington]] 20:32, 21 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: is it possible to keep on topic and not degenerate to a religion bashing festival?<br /> ::: thank you.<br /> ::: --[[User:Ayukawataur|Ayukawataur : FurBid-SF Administaur]] 22:40, 21 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::This is on topic and is relating to his banning from FurAffinity. I want to know why he thinks it is okay for him to bash Atheists, but NOT okay for others to bash Christians. It is a legitimate question that pertains to the reports he filed on FurAffinity, which led to his ban. I have said nothing to bash a religion. --[[User:BaronVonYiffington|BaronVonYiffington]] 22:44, 21 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::::But it has nothing to do with WikiFur. Please take your discussions on the merits of criticism elsewhere. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 22:46, 21 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::::It pertains to the article, which mentions his banning. But white knighting is cool too. --[[User:BaronVonYiffington|BaronVonYiffington]] 22:49, 21 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Wait a sec, what's this? You want this guy to take his argument elsewhere because it has &quot;nothing to do with WikiFur&quot;? Hm. For the benefit of those of us who continue to be perplexed by WikiFur's apparently mercurial and contradictory standards, can you explain why it's not okay for some people to use WikiFur as their own personal battleground, but okay for others? What happened to covering &quot;all sides of the argument&quot; (even if that argument has nothing to do with what WikiFur is about)? I'm honestly curious, as the [[Talk:Popping|precedent you've set]] for what is (supposed to be) an encyclopedia of furry fandom continues to baffle me. &amp;mdash;[[User:Xydexx|Xydexx]] 23:26, 21 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::::::I'll admit I haven't followed both the Crusader Cat and Popping debates, maybe there's a perfectly logical distinction that can be distilled out of this. I just wanted to point out that we're not always bound by precedent. Sometimes the admin team has to decide if the end result of any debate would likely result in a benefit to the encyclopedia. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 03:28, 22 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::For the record: I think the inclusion of arguments which a) have no evidence to support them, b) have been written off as trolling attempts by administrators of the message boards they originally appeared on, and c) have nothing to do with furry fandom and anthropomorphic animals, do not belong on WikiFur. Ultimately, there's not much I can do about it, as I'm not an Admin, and the general response I've gotten from Admins when requesting assistance is that I should assume good faith and debate endlessly in order to reach consensus rather than the Admins just [[WikiFur:Speedy_deletion|dealing with it]]. So. One would assume, judging by the glacial pace that the Admins have dealt (read: failed to deal) with the issue thus far, is that importing poorly-sourced arguments which have nothing to do with what WikiFur is about is ''okay'' here, and at the risk of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Don%27t_stuff_beans_up_your_nose stuffing beans up my nose], indicates to me that anyone can insert whatever patent lunacy they like into WikiFur and it will be acceptable under the misguided notion that WikiFur has a duty to tell &quot;all sides&quot; of the story&amp;mdash;even though it isn't appropriate for WikiFur in the first place. &amp;mdash;[[User:Xydexx|Xydexx]] 06:59, 23 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::::I seem to remember [[Talk:Richard Chandler/Archive1#Enough|telling another couple of people]] to take their personal arguments elsewhere. Don't act surprised when I do the same for others. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 03:39, 22 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::Right. I [http://en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Richard_Chandler&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=228881 also] [http://en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Richard_Chandler&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=228999 remember] telling people to take their personal arguments elsewhere, so you can drop the holier-than-thou routine. So what's with the inconsistency, then? ''That's'' the surprising part. Do arguments that have ''nothing to do with WikiFur'' belong here or not? You've yet to clarify this after, what, four months now? And if you're unwilling to take a stand one way or another, don't act surprised when people call you on your inconsistency. If WikiFur needs to cover &quot;all sides of the argument&quot; (as you seem to believe it does WRT Popping), then why the opposition to covering a similar controversy between Christianity and Atheism? &amp;mdash;[[User:Xydexx|Xydexx]] 06:24, 22 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::::::: xydexx - my interpretation of the situation and what i have seen.<br /> ::::::::: greenreaper has answer the question. tl;dr wikifur does each issue on a case by case basis. they know they can not provide a blanket rule for all possible situation. there will all ways be exception and will all time be loop hole. same as there will all time be abuse of the decision that have make. both of decision and of people who make.<br /> ::::::::: also, and this is personal view not wikifur staff view (i am not staff here), what you are doing is not discuss or debate. you are make personal and offensive attack against other person and/or persons faith and hide it with term of question and debate. this issue is not, and never has being about christianity or atheism. it is about a person and their personal interpretation of a faith.<br /> ::::::::: no fight christianity and atheism. this is not a place for that. no try to hide what is obvious and call what is not. it is offensive action and any objective person can see such. his action are his. his choice are his. your action are your. your choice are your. both need to take responsibility and stop try force on other.<br /> ::::::::: --[[User:Ayukawataur|Ayukawataur : FurBid-SF Administaur]] 18:36, 22 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::I think you're misinterpreting my comments; they are not an attack on anyone's faith, but a question of whether WikiFur is an appropriate forum to hash out arguments which have nothing to do with what WikiFur is about. &amp;mdash;[[User:Xydexx|Xydexx]] 20:02, 22 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::::...And another three of the many things that Wikifur is '''not''' is creation of fake/hoax articles, vandal/non-serious edits of articles ([[Forum:Popping (Under revision)]]), and harassment/disrespect of users/editors/Sysops ([[User talk:Wolfkid23]]) [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 20:22, 23 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Exclusion request ==<br /> <br /> Crusader Cat has submitted a request for [[Wikifur:Personal exclusion|personal exclusion]] from Wikifur. Such requests are generally granted unless a good case can be made that it is in the interest of furry fandom that [[WikiFur:Personal information|some of the information be publicized]]. Given the amount of controversy that this article has attracted, we believe the request merits discussion here before a decision is made. Does anyone reading this believe there is sufficient cause that the exclusion request should not be allowed? --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 15:03, 29 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :Where should I start? For starters, he wants to bury his past and play victim. Let's not give him this benefit of an attempt to wipe his severely unstable past history and personal beliefs from a site with the purpose of having information on other furs.<br /> <br /> :The wiki page doesn't include his name, which I believe the article would benefit. He claims people are threatening his his, which is false. I've personally seen on FA discussions where he claims people are threatening him, which they are not. The conversation goes in reference how homosexuals should be hit, killed, or struck, then some person stated,(summary)&quot;Does this mean I can start to punch Christians?&quot; He claims these statements are threats.<br /> <br /> :Crusader Cat was given many chances to correct his own actions, which he did not listen. Instead of dropping it he insisted on enforcing his current behavior. This is what eventually lead to his ban at FA.<br /> <br /> :I should add, his request is timely with his being on front page of Encyclopedia Dramatica. He removed his youtube, dA, and other materials from accounts on the web. IF, and thats a BIG IF, he is quitting the fandom, the page would be okay to remove. However I'd doubt he would be quitting the fandom, from his past behavior I've seen this to be the &quot;bury my past&quot; and not &quot;I'm leaving the fandom.&quot; He simply wants to play victim, which is the result of his own dastardly behavior.<br /> <br /> :When you do not removed his page, he will send you a legal threat, I guarantee it.<br /> :There is not a reason in the world why his page should be removed. --[[User:Insane Kangaroo|Insane Kangaroo]] 16:20, 29 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Don't listed to Insane Kangaroo, he is one of the people on FA who would harass me by making porn of my fursona (which was removed) and was giving out my privet information on Live journal (which was also removed) People have in fact threatened my life, one person on FA who did this a lot is Fuzzy_Wolfy. She said I &quot;Should be shot in the face&quot;. Because of these threats, I have to keep my real name secret to protect my family. I never advocated the harassment or murder of homosexuals, the following people on FA are friends of mine that happen to be gay or bi: Mercifur, lilfurbal, Yiffdakat, FurryWriter. I am still getting harassed on FA by Insane Kangaroo (check the shouts on my page). I have done nothing to warrant this kind of behavior from furries or trolls (then again, not many of us do) I would like this article to be removed for sake of the administrators, I don't want you to go through Hell to protect my honor. This page has become nothing more than a battle ground to destroy my reputation, I will not have defamation on this site. Also, the information on my page in inaccurate, I did not upload a video saying &quot;Being gay is NOT ok&quot; I don't even have an account on that video site. --[[User:Crusader Cat|Crusader Cat]] 12:37 29 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::Crusader, the video is newsworthy and it's being used to in critique. If you try to have it removed, I guarantee someone will post the video along with your real name, fur name, along with other information. Your real name is already on Encyclopedia Dramatica, along with your real picture. Good luck on getting a job with a large employer, especially when they google your name.<br /> <br /> ::I only drew a picture to mock the whole situation, it is your own fault you started to cry wolf and take it farther than you should have taken. Look on FA, Chewfox did not have any issues after she came back. Do you really think people treated you any differently? No. You blew it WAY out of proportion, making it big by yourself.<br /> <br /> ::I haven't harassed you at all, especially on your shouts page. I'm simply keeping the community up to date in regards to what drama you're causing. My point is verified with your post. You are trying to &quot;bury history&quot; over dastardly acts which you've committed in the past.<br /> <br /> ::&quot;Should be shot&quot; is not a threat, sorry. Such a statement is freedom of speech of one's own mind. There is not legally a muster of intent on the part of Fuzzy_Wolfy's statement. Any officer will tell you this, especially when making a police report.<br /> <br /> ::By your own standards Crusader Cat, your preach hate speech which is 'illegal' even though not by today's legal standards. You preach intolerance against homosexuals, which is very impolite and cowardly.<br /> <br /> ::My satire drawings may have been removed from FA, but I hosted them elsewhere. My drawing appears to have been uploaded to Encyclopedia Dramatica. --[[User:Insane Kangaroo|Insane Kangaroo]] 16:55 29 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Your a lier, your kind is not welcome on this site. You drew a pic of me having anal sex with a dinosaur, that is harassment, if you were making fun of the situation, You would not have drawn me. Plus, you wouldn't know so much about the stuff on ED unless you frequent that site. You are a troll, and your trying to bring your undesirable lies here. I'm not trying to bury my history, I'm trying to protect those close to me. &quot;Should be shot is a threat, I have gotten others involving crucifixion (just check ED). I don't nor have I ever preached hate or intolerance against gay people. Saying being gay is wrong is not hate speech. Talk to all my gay friends and they will prove you wrong. That drawing was not satyr, it is harassment, you use that as an excuse to avoid copyright laws, now that is cowardly. Stop posting here, and stop harassing me. You didn't get away with this on FA, you didn't get away with this on LJ, and you won't here. The administrators here are not idiots, they know what their doing. --[[User:Crusader Cat|Crusader Cat]] 12:37 29 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :Crusader Cat just tried to vandalize his page by blanking most of the content. --[[User:Insane Kangaroo|Insane Kangaroo]] 17:28 29 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Without even addressing the question of whether Crusader Cat actually made the statements, or whether they are being misrepresented or taken out of context, I would ask whether that matters. Being disagreeable or undiplomatic, expressing controversial opinions, or being difficult to work with, are not in themselves reasons to deny a personal exclusion request (and I'm speaking in general terms here, not taking sides on where CC falls on that spectrum). They would have to represent a credible threat to cause physical, emotional, financial or material harm to others, or evidence of having actually done so in the past, to merit denial.<br /> <br /> On Wikifur we generally have a more relaxed sourcing policy than on Wikipedia. However, when it comes to controversial statements or any information that may reflect negatively on a person, the standards for sourcing go way up. Any &quot;negative&quot; statements about CC WILL require external references to back them up. You can argue at length about what CC did or did not say or what he meant, but the official admin response is going to be, &quot;show us the refs&quot;.<br /> <br /> Here's one more acid test on whether to deny personal exclusion: If there were currently no article on Wikifur about CC, do you believe there is enough public &quot;need to know&quot; that you would have cause to create one for that purpose? --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 18:01, 29 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :I agree absolutely with your points. If [[Crusader Cat]] did not exist after all this drama, would it be created? He treaded and continues to tread dangerous waters. Would the removal of [[Alan T. Panda]] be granted if luring a child was not unlawful and he requested removal? We're talking about the topic of taboo and sex.<br /> <br /> :My only reason I believe Crusader Cat should be denied removal equates to him trying to bury his past. I realize he isn't going to be able to bury his past since there are several sources already on the web which happen to be the first hit in google for both his fur name and real name. However, people use wikifur as a means to quickly look up information about a person. Showing through references how crusader cat has treated others is very important for those who may not wish to be subjected to such behavior/statements.<br /> <br /> :People who are curious in regards to the Fur Affinity ban can also look up information on his page. While people may go to ED for the information, many would rather go to a source which is more credible, has references, and is semi-neutral.--[[User:Insane Kangaroo|Insane Kangaroo]] 18:32 29 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Also, I see on your page, http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/User_talk:Mwalimu#Please_remove_my_page, where Crusader Cat made the request. &quot;A flame war of the epic variety has started up. I would like you to remove my page, I don't want you guys getting swamped with trolling. Sorry for any trouble I caused you.&quot; is his exact request. His request appears to be regarding vandalism, though I still believe he is using the incident to bury history. <br /> <br /> :From the aspect of vandalism. Pages shouldn't be removed simply because a person ends up on the front page of ED. It will pass, and something else will be on the front page. This is manageable and many are already +watch'ing his entry to revert vandalism.--[[User:Insane Kangaroo|Insane Kangaroo]] 19:02 29 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I removed most of the stuff on my page because there was no evidence to back any of it up. My real name and my face is being distributed by people who want to harass me (Insane Kangaroo is one of them) and this could cause harm to my family. Please remove this page for protection of my family. Do not trust Insane Kangaroo, he has harassed me on FA and LJ and in both cases, was reprimanded by the administrators, and now he's trying to harass me here. Linking to and ED article about me on my user page after I was banned is NOT keeping anything up to date, especially since you admit that ED is unreliable yourself. it is harassment. I'm not trying to hide my past, I'm trying to protect my loved ones (this includes the admins here. There is not enough info on the web to write an article about me, nothing more than a message on my FA page, which is no ones business anyway. --[[User:Crusader Cat|Crusader Cat]] 12:37 29 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::How is there no evidence? People have already downloaded the materials you posted to the web, including PDFs, videos, logs, etc of what YOU have made public.<br /> <br /> ::In regards to harassing you, it's public information. It's not harassment where I live, where you live, nor where wikifur is located in regards to posting public information made available by yourself. If you don't like what people have to say, you shouldn't have posted the information in the first place. &quot;burying your history&quot; is really, by Internet standards, impossible.<br /> <br /> ::No, you're not trying to protect your loved ones. You're trying to prevent your loved ones to discover the dishonor you have caused. You are also trying to bury history so people can't find as to why others don't like you, or if you're a liability. Future employers may see you as a lawsuit liability if they find out your public history. Again, YOU made the information public, and YOU caused the drama.<br /> <br /> ::If the admins feel like there is not enough citation, I can upload the materials Crusader Cat posted to the net which are otherwise available elsewhere. <br /> <br /> ::I also add, much of the originating information on Crusader Cat's page is written by Crusader Cat himself. Edits were made by one of other editors in regards to Crusader having relationships due to a mental disability from has to claims. Citation is required from Crusader Cat if he is going to claim his abilities are neutered by a mental disorder. --[[User:Insane Kangaroo|Insane Kangaroo]] 20:45 29 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: If Crusader Cat is worried about protecting himself and his future employment prospects, this article posted here is relatively harmless, for there is no real identifying information other than his fursona name. Encyclopedia Dramatica is where the real problems are. He's just going after Wikifur because he knows it would be a lot easier, even though if his exclusion request is granted, any effects on his person would be negligible at best, maybe just a symbolic measure. Encyclopedia Dramatica, on the other paw, has some of his IRL information, but he knows that trying to get that page removed would be a lot harder and expose him to much jeering. In fact, they'd probably use any removal request of his as a source of endless amusement, and result in that page receiving even more hurtful edits. --[[User:Lutriawolfe|Lutriawolfe]] 21:28, 29 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : Having caught this on ED and made my way here I know I don't have much power in my opinion, but my thought is that CrusaderCat's request should be granted. I may be wrong, but it seems Wikifur is meant to be unbiased. The nature of the wiki would suggest that the drama Crusadercat has caused is not necessary to the community. The ED page exists and it's not going anywhere any time soon. As long as it's unprotected, the ED article will ensure a constant battle to keep this page neutral from both sides (Crusadercat's positive bias and ED trolls' negative slant). What it really boils down to for me is this: No part of Crusadercat's information/past is directly harmful to another person - that is, if Crusadercat had a history or was part of an incident that was necessary to warn other people about, it would be public service to post that information (for example, if he was known for not paying commissions or had assaulted another fur.) As it is, his only crime was of disclosure. Regardless of how I personally feel about his alleged bestiality (ew) I have to admit that neither it nor his alleged proselytizing (nor the resultant persecution he alleges) are of importance to the community at large. From this point of view, the request for blanking should be granted, as there's no real reason NOT to, aside from a concerted effort by those who want to do him harm. [[Special:Contributions/68.146.196.172|68.146.196.172]] 01:58, 30 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :: On an unrelated note: Crusadercat, if you read this, I would very much like to talk to you about your religious journey and the path you've chosen to take - you may reach me at anotherduck /at/ gmail /dott/ com. I couldn't find private-message contact information for you, though I didn't look very hard. [[Special:Contributions/68.146.196.172|68.146.196.172]] 01:58, 30 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::You appear to not realize how his past information has been used by Crusader Cat. He was(still is?) using his lewd acts to further his own agenda in the furry community. While I'm all one for getting rid of information regarding information which doesn't/won't/ and will not affect the furry community, he has proven many times to use said acts in conversation casually.<br /> <br /> ::I shall direct you to the video of Thou Shall Not Yiff and the PDF, both I believe are available on the ED page. The information listed was created by Crusader Cat. Of which he has also stated his hate against homosexual relations. While he constantly states he has gay friends, I'm not certain if those &quot;gay friends&quot; are part of the group which are gay but abstain from all sexual intercourse.<br /> <br /> ::Again, you should look at evidence provided. Nobody is &quot;out to get crusader cat&quot;, but many would like him to stop using his own mental illnesses as a reason to 1) join the fandom and 2) &quot;find Jesus&quot;. He has stated, by his own words look at the page history, he joined the fandom to deal with his sexual behavior. This alone is a red flag to the community, without looking at the religious side. Also the fact he molested his cats, then creates 1) a video about it, 2) a PDF about it, and 3) preaches to everyone else about the lewd act upset quite a few people. The knee jerk reactions didn't start though until he wanted to &quot;spread the word.&quot; Though this is not the first time, and probably not the last time he will draw major attention to himself. He alone stated to me on my shout page, &quot;This is the second time I've been on that site[lulz.net]&quot; in reference to the journal about &quot;spreading the word.&quot; --[[Insane Kangaroo|Insane Kangaroo]] 02:15, 30 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::: I guess what mean is, if Crusadercat is as obviously horrible as you say, wouldn't that become evident with a few minutes of talking to him? A wiki article, no matter how poive or negative, is not going to persuade a person. If there is no immediate harm to come from people not knowing his past, I'm not sure why Wikifur would need to host that information. If someone would rather plug his name into the searchbox than speak to him, there's very little chance they're planning to have anything to do with him. I've made my point as clearly as I can, but I apologize if I haven't suceeded. I'm not looking to convince or &quot;white knight&quot; - just saying that people should have a limited right to control their own information when that withholding doesn't harm others, regardless of whether they stupidly put it in the public domain or not. [[Special:Contributions/68.146.196.172|68.146.196.172]] 02:25, 30 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::Yes, many would rather research a person, before or after, knowing. Unfortuantely I've seen chat logs from a couple people in regards to chatting through IM. Indeed you are also correct in the sense people understand what type of person when they talk to him. I don't know if I've the whole conversation, but apparently he starts to belittle people when he talks about Jesus Christ. Telling people &quot;your not grown up&quot; regards to spirituality, then clearly brings out the sexist points in the bible. While the New King James is indeed colorful, the way Crusader Cat speaks to people is degrading.<br /> <br /> ::::Those are the type of conversations I do not want to be trapped in to by anyone. They're rather depressing and only depict the bad of Christianity. Talking about such topics is like talking about how great Japan is, then conversing in a topic about the Nanjing Massacre as if it's the Holy Grail of the Japanese population.<br /> <br /> ::::If people wish to plug in his name, so be it. There are plenty of sources online already, but the WF article should stay. People *DO* use ED to find the &quot;juicy&quot; information about specific people, mostly from screenshots. In this case Crusader Cat has developed such a bad rep, the WF is &quot;nice&quot; compared to what people have posted on the ED page.<br /> <br /> ::::In regards to people Googling another's name to find out more information about them, this is no different than any other fur. Some furs are in support of Bestiality, which I've clearly read the thread on FA. If those people, some which post their full legal name publicly post information on the Internet, then they have the responsibility of releasing said information.<br /> <br /> ::::Openly posting information on the Internet guarantees one will have diminished/no rights to privacy in regards to what they have posted.--[[User:Insane Kangaroo|Insane Kangaroo]] 02:55, 30 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :I usually lean towards granting exclusion unless there is a need to know, like protecting the fandom against a dangerous person. I don't see it here, so I vote exclusion. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 04:36, 30 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> Allow exclusion:<br /> *'''Pros''':<br /> **The subject is non-common, furry lore wise. <br /> **Non-warez trader ([[Sibe]]).<br /> **No criminal accounts or incidents (past or present) that affects the fandom ([[TORA]]).<br /> **Not a source of constant, possible, physical threats ([[Mozdoc]]).<br /> **No appearances on TV/radio/print that proclaim his views as Furry's set standards.<br /> **No in-furry pedophile incidents.<br /> *'''Con'''<br /> **A dislike of &quot;furry porn&quot; after a period of animal molestation by the user. Double standards.<br /> **A dislike for any religion but Christianity. Using same as an excuse to whitewash his own faults.<br /> **A (publicly displayed) dislike for [[Homosexuality]].<br /> <br /> These last three do not affect, or make an impression in, the fandom, and denial on the basis of being an irritant on certain members within furry is not a logical suggestion. It's exclusion would not subs-tract valuable data from Wikifur, and, as stated from other people, it's already well covered by third parties elsewhere - [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 06:36, 30 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::Let me add two other cons so it can't be said we didn't look at both sides. I still came to the decision to exclude after considering them.<br /> **Crazy accusations against people: Is there a need to provide an idea of the personality behind the accusations? There are other sources of information available, and most of the accusations have been taken down.<br /> **Legal threats: So far this is only threats, but if there were a case, and the legal system were brought in, it would be prudent to report on it.<br /> Again, I considered both before coming to the decision to support exclusion, just mentioning for completenes. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 07:43, 30 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::<br /> *I don't have a double standard I hated molesting animals as well. It's a mistake I'm not proud of. Unfortunately Rat, you have fallen victim to the lies about me.<br /> *So what if I dislike religion? Everyone dislikes the other belief systems they don't hold. And what does this &quot;whitewashing&quot; mean? I not trying to justify my own mistakes (speaking specifically of bestiality here), once again Rat, you have fallen victim to the lies about me. This is why this page should be removed, false information is creeping in, and we can't let the honesty of this site die.<br /> *So what if I don't like homosexuality? I am well within my rights to say what I believe, just as you are within your rights to say &quot;being gay is ok&quot;. I don't even see how this is relevant to the situation. My views on homosexuality has not effected my relationship with my friends who are gay or bi, so it is completely unrelated.<br /> *There is nothing Crazy about the accusations I made, Everything I said was true, and you have no reason to disbelieve me.<br /> *The &quot;threat&quot; was over when the issue was taken care of with another FA admin.<br /> <br /> I tried real hard to keep my private info off the internet, but somehow, people like Insane Kangaroo have swiped it, and most likely gave it to the ED guys. I was chatting with someone online, and he was able to find my address, and the names of my family members based on the information that Insane somehow found, and is now on ED. They need to be protected, if not here, then the only other option I can see would be legally changing my name. --[[User:Crusader Cat|Crusader Cat]] 13:25 30 September 2009 (UTC)</div>

Crusader Cat //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Crusader_Cat 2009-09-29T20:37:06Z

<p>Crusader Cat: </p> <hr /> <div>{{NPOV}}<br /> <br /> === Relationships and furry ===<br /> Crusader Cat believes he has offended many with his beliefs. When he wrote a journal on Fur Affinity about &quot;spreading the word&quot; (ostensibly announcing an outreach ministry), many of the responding furries had a negative reaction, leading Crusader Cat to believe that they believed he wanted to &quot;force religion down their throats&quot;.&lt;ref&gt;Copy of ''[http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/5036/crusaderministry.gif Outreach Ministry]'' - Crusader Cat&lt;/ref&gt;. The real reason behind the animosity towards CrusaderCat is not centered on his religious beliefs themselves but the fact he imposes them on others while having committed various acts of bestiality from the ages of 16-19. He has said that as a result he gets almost nothing but hate mail with threats, derogatory and defamatory claims, and unauthorized pornography from non-Christian furries.<br /> <br /> ==== Fur Affinity ban ====<br /> Crusader Cat claims to have been harassed by [[Fur Affinity]] staff. He attempted to report another user for harassment several times, and after multiple refusals by [[Tsawolf]], he threatened a lawsuit for religious discrimination. [[Tsawolf]] informed Crusader Cat all future trouble tickets would be ignored after receiving the legal threats.<br /> <br /> Crusader Cat posted a topic to the Fur Affinity forums, with a long list of submissions that he believed violated the rules. The rules of Fur Affinity clearly state 'intent' must be present for content to break the rules, of which many of the submissions in the list did not have a muster of intent. The post was removed, and another administrator contacted him to resolve the issue. However the next day, his account was banned due to the prior legal threat.<br /> <br /> ==References==<br /> &lt;references /&gt;<br /> <br /> [[Category:People]]<br /> [[Category:Artists]]<br /> [[Category:Writers]]<br /> [[Category:Fursuiters]]<br /> [[Category:Cat characters]]<br /> [[Category:1987 births]]</div>

Crusader Cat //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Crusader_Cat 2009-09-29T20:35:00Z

<p>Crusader Cat: </p> <hr /> <div>{{NPOV}}<br /> '''Crusader Cat''' (a brown house [[cat]]) is a [[fursuiter]], amateur artist, writer (mostly stage and screen plays), aspiring actor, who plays the bagpipes. He is a [[Christian fur]] known for his fundamentalism, and love of [[Garfield]].<br /> <br /> == Fundamentalism belief ==<br /> Crusader Cat is a zealous [[Wikipedia:Independent Baptist|Independent Baptist]] who will only read the [[Wikipedia:Authorized King James Version|King James version of the Bible]], despises [[Wikipedia:C.S. Lewis|C.S. Lewis]]' ''[[Chronicles of Narnia]]'', and opposes [[Wikipedia:Christian rock|Christian rock]]. He makes stage and screen plays with Biblical themes, anthropomorphic cartoons, and [[Wikipedia:Jack T. Chick|Jack Chick]] style [[Wikipedia:tract (literature)|tracts]] featuring anthropomorphic characters; he brought some of these tracts with him to [[Anthrocon]].<br /> <br /> == Fandom involvement ==<br /> Crusader Cat was introduced to the furry fandom when he was 17, through [[yiff]] art. As a result, he became fiercely [[anti-furry]]. A couple of years later, after discovering and contacting [[Christian furries]], he became more tolerant of the fandom. <br /> <br /> In March 2008, he decided that becoming a furry could help him deal with some of his issues regarding sexuality, and he attended [[Anthrocon 2008]].<br /> <br /> === Relationships and furry ===<br /> Crusader Cat believes he has offended many with his beliefs. When he wrote a journal on Fur Affinity about &quot;spreading the word&quot; (ostensibly announcing an outreach ministry), many of the responding furries had a negative reaction, leading Crusader Cat to believe that they believed he wanted to &quot;force religion down their throats&quot;.&lt;ref&gt;Copy of ''[http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/5036/crusaderministry.gif Outreach Ministry]'' - Crusader Cat&lt;/ref&gt;. The real reason behind the animosity towards CrusaderCat is not centered on his religious beliefs themselves but the fact he imposes them on others while having committed various acts of bestiality from the ages of 16-19. He has said that as a result he gets almost nothing but hate mail with threats, derogatory and defamatory claims, and unauthorized pornography from non-Christian furries.<br /> <br /> :&quot;Homosexuality is not OK&quot; by Crusader Cat&lt;br/&gt;<br /> :http://www.zshare.net/video/662752486439ae23/<br /> <br /> ==== Fur Affinity ban ====<br /> Crusader Cat claims to have been harassed by [[Fur Affinity]] staff. He attempted to report another user for harassment several times, and after multiple refusals by [[Tsawolf]], he threatened a lawsuit for religious discrimination. [[Tsawolf]] informed Crusader Cat all future trouble tickets would be ignored after receiving the legal threats.<br /> <br /> Crusader Cat posted a topic to the Fur Affinity forums, with a long list of submissions that he believed violated the rules. The rules of Fur Affinity clearly state 'intent' must be present for content to break the rules, of which many of the submissions in the list did not have a muster of intent. The post was removed, and another administrator contacted him to resolve the issue. However the next day, his account was banned due to the prior legal threat.<br /> <br /> ==== Sexuality ====<br /> <br /> Although he has changed his views on furry fandom, Crusader Cat is still strongly opposed to yiff. Before he discovered the fandom, he had struggled with [[Wikipedia:Foot fetishism|foot fetishism]] and [[bestiality]]. <br /> <br /> ==References==<br /> &lt;references /&gt;<br /> <br /> [[Category:People]]<br /> [[Category:Artists]]<br /> [[Category:Writers]]<br /> [[Category:Fursuiters]]<br /> [[Category:Cat characters]]<br /> [[Category:1987 births]]</div>

Crusader Cat //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Talk:Crusader_Cat 2009-09-29T20:31:06Z

<p>Crusader Cat: </p> <hr /> <div>Crusader Cat is editing his own WikiFur page to obfuscate the fact that he has admitted to sexual abuse of animals. He has written his article to hide the fact that the reason furries are angry with him is not because he is a Christian, but rather that he is using his religious beliefs to project his crimes onto others not guilty of his sin of animal rape.--[[Special:Contributions/150.131.162.41|150.131.162.41]] 17:41, 16 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Controversial claims must not only be well sourced, but when it is about a person, there must be a good argument why the information should be made public. Just because something is true doesn't necessarily mean it belongs here. If you wish to continue your efforts to include the information in the article, please register an account to do so. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 16:28, 17 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Absolutely! Unfortunately, Crusader Cat has deleted the Adobe Acrobat PDF file from his FurAffinity account where he describes, in graphic detail, of sexually abusing his pets. Before Crusader Cat deleted his PDF file confessing animal sexual abuse from FurAffinity, I saved it to my computer. I would be happy to expose all supporting documents of Crusader Cat's confession of sexually abusing his pets if you would kindly link to me a document describing how I might upload these documents directly to WikiFur.<br /> <br /> ::I not only have that PDF file saved to my computer as evidence of his crime, but the video I sourced in Crusader Cat's article, that you deleted, shows Crusader Cat confessing to molesting his pets. Anyone reading this, interested in watching Crusader Cat admit to sexually abusing his pets, can go through the history of the Crusader Cat article and find the video sourced in a previous version of the article of Crusader Cat confessing to sexually abusing his animals.<br /> <br /> ::The integrity of WikiFur is at stake when people guilty of serious crimes can produce false articles depicting themselves as clean, moral, and decent people. A false &quot;Crusader&quot; who is actually more guilty of the crime of animal sexual abuse than most all furries should never be tolerated to hide his past. How would you like it if a criminal donned the title &quot;crusader&quot; and then came to your social group commanding you and your friends to repent of a crime none of you had committed -- but he had? That is what is happening here, and Crusader Cat is exploiting WikiFur as the source of documentation of the furry fandom to whitewash his past. Crusader Cat pretends like those who disagree with him hate him for being a Christian when the reality is that he is hated because he sexually molested his pets and then approached furries as a saint offering forgiveness when he is the one who needs forgiveness for his detestable crime of animal rape.<br /> <br /> ::No one should be allowed to use WikiFur as a platform to produce a sparkling clean article about themselves when reality is quite different. No one should be allowed to drum up support for a cause, when they themselves are in gross violation of the cause they purport to represent without exposure of the facts of their past crimes. No one guilty of serious crimes should use WikiFur to falsely portray themselves as a pious angel of religious indemnity while feigning innocence and condemning others. The truth is that those people Crusader Cat claims are &quot;haters of Christianity&quot; are, in actuality, angry of Crusader Cat's sexual abuse of animals followed by falsely accusing others guilty of his crime while pretentiously wrapping himself up in a cloak of holiness. <br /> <br /> ::Again, I would be happy to expose all supporting documents of Crusader Cat's confession of sexually abusing his pets if you would kindly link to me a document describing how I might upload these documents directly to WikiFur. Why should a animal molestor, such as Crusader Cat, be allowed to make himself a sparkling clean article of himself as a Crusader against sexual abuse without exposing his own past as a animal abuser? Seems to me, Crusader Cat is more guilty of the crime of animal sex abuse than most of the furries he condemns. -- [[Special:Contributions/150.131.162.175|150.131.162.175]] 20:53, 17 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Just tell me, who are you on FA? Assuming of course your a furry and not a troll. {{unsigned|Crusader Cat}}<br /> <br /> == I support including this information here. ==<br /> <br /> Crusader Cat has written this article in order to show himself in the best possible light. This is human nature and is to be expected. However, WikiFur should not be used for whitewashing one’s past. CC is disliked by many due to his sexual abuse of animals, and while CC claims that he is disliked for being Christian, the real reason for many peoples dislike should be shown.<br /> <br /> To 150.131.162.175, please create an account here and start the process of formally adding this information. I did not save CC's PDF file. [[Special:Contributions/173.45.201.98|173.45.201.98]] 11:03, 18 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Additionally: I would like to point out that CC has responded to 150.131.162.175 on FA. I can only assume he presumes FA a better venue for the discussion.<br /> :&quot;Stop wasting your time, the admin there are not retarded and aren't going to fall for your tricks. What you are doing is illegal, immoral, and cowardly. People have tried this to me before and their IP's got banned, Yours will too soon and all hope of doing anything there will be gone for good.&quot;<br /> :http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/788774/<br /> : [[Special:Contributions/173.45.201.98|173.45.201.98]] 11:07, 18 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I am hated because I am a Christian, much of the hate mail I received was from people who had no knowledge of what I have done. Check the link and you will see that there is no recorded message of someone getting angry with me because of mistakes I made. I wrote this article to portray myself in the most neutral possible light. This article was altered to portray myself in the worst possible light. the Admins knew this and that's why they called him out on it. It is well within my right to respond to the other guy through other mediums (assuming he's on FA) and is not the busness of the admins here. Thus, this new information is just as useless as the previous information. {{unsigned|Crusader Cat}}<br /> <br /> :We at Wikifur make an effort to be good neighbors in the furry community. A part of that deals with how we handle derogatory or controversial information about people. Most if not all of us have done things in that past that are less than admirable; we are not about digging up dirt on people. Our policy on such information is that in order for it to be allowable on the site, first, we hold it to a higher standard of verifiability than most other information on the site, and second, that a good case can be made that it is in the public interest of furry fandom that this information be made public. <br /> :The claim has been made that Crusader Cat has sexually abused animals in the past. I have not reviewed the evidence enough to form an opinion of whether that's true, but even if it is, I'm not convinced it belongs here. I will review the available information later on (I can't do it right now because I'm at work and my employer blocks access to a couple of the websites where the information resides). If this appears to be something that he is currently practicing and advocating, I might be convinced to change my mind, but if it's only past transgressions or questionable accusations we're talking about here, I probably won't. (Disclaimer: This is one admin's opinion; other admins may have differing views on how best to handle this situation.)<br /> :By the way, I'm a furry Christian and I've never received any hate mail because of it. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 17:33, 18 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: The reason I believe the information should be included is CC's desire to claim persecution solely for being Christian. Whereas many dislike him for what he's done in the past (and claiming other furries do). Thank you for your professionalism, by the way, not every 'Christian' is willing to listen to reason in situations where an evangelical is arguing against others. --[[Special:Contributions/173.45.201.98|173.45.201.98]] 23:52, 18 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::While the claim itself is true, the recent edit by this person was created in such a way to create a mental slant against me. When you have the time, check out the youtube video or the essay on furtopia. I myself have admitted here on Wikifur that I have had struggles with bestiality, that's all anyone coming here needs to know, they don't need to know the nasty details of what I have done, if they can then they can easily check the links provided. Nor do the people coming here need to know the ins and outs of what I have said in the essay (i.e. telling exactly what segments of the video in witch I am making a claim) Also, the claim that many people hate me for what I have done is inaccurate. Very few people got angry because of this, and this person is obviously one of them. Once again, check the link and see that there is no evidence that I have documented which makes mention of zoophile bashing hate messages. While I am currently struggling with bestiality, I am not practicing, and I am most definitely not advocating it (as you will see by reading the essay). I am glad to find that you also are a Christian, and envy you for the peace you have experienced among the fandom. Presumably, God has called you as a witness to someone else other than furries so you are not actively involved in trying to bring more furrs to Christ. That being said, it is understandable if no other furrs have persecuted you, I hope your association with me will not bring any undeserved hatred on you. I trust and pray that you and the other admins will make a wise decision. {{unsigned|Crusader Cat}} -- confirmable at http://en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Crusader_Cat&amp;action=history 18:36, 18 June 2009 Crusader Cat<br /> <br /> :::I have a question, Crusader Cat. If you have nothing to hide about your criminal past as you claim, why have you attempted to blank the mere discussion of your user article (the page you are reading right now) multiple times? Check the history ( http://en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Crusader_Cat&amp;action=history ) of this page ( [[Talk:Crusader Cat]] ) for proof of your attempts to blank this page four times. --[[Special:Contributions/150.131.162.92|150.131.162.92]] 21:48, 18 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Now that I've had a chance to review both YouTube videos on my own time, I stand by what I said earlier. Referring to Crusader Cat's past acts as a &quot;criminal past&quot; is questionable at best and putting a pejorative spin on it at the minimum. I could say a lot more but there are better places for it than a Wikifur talk page. At this time I see no reason to include any more negative statements about CC than what he has included on his own. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 03:58, 19 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I was not aware that this needed to remain up for historical reasons. After seeing it re uploaded several times, I was told by one of the other admins here that It had to stay up, now that this drama is basically over I might be deleted again (unless the admins say other wise). what you posted here is no different from the other times people come here to harass me, thus I did not feel it belonged here. But since it apparently does, it can be a record of your bias and hatred toward someone who is just doing what his God asked of him.{{unsigned|Crusader Cat }}<br /> <br /> ::CC, please remember to indent responses and sign them. Four tilde's will do it. Also, it is generally considered bad form to clear discussions, especially considering as this discussion has been civil, despite what you claim. Leaving this discussion will show that the issue has been brought up and discussed. [[Special:Contributions/173.45.201.98|173.45.201.98]] 12:40, 19 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I don't know how to indent. This discussing has been anything but civil from your end. Civil people don't do the sick things you have done to get revenge on me. You still didn't tell me who you were on FA, assuming you have an account there.{{unsigned|Crusader Cat }}<br /> <br /> :::: You never asked me, I found this from your own page. /My/ FA user name is Irbisgreif. I don't know who [[Special:Contributions/206.127.78.65|206.127.78.65]] is. Perhaps if you noted styles this would have been obvious, as I have made no effort to hide who I am. [[Special:Contributions/173.45.201.98|173.45.201.98]] 21:30, 20 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Use colons to indent. You should know that I, [[Special:Contributions/206.127.78.65|206.127.78.65]] 16:55, 20 June 2009 (UTC), am different from [[Special:Contributions/173.45.201.98|173.45.201.98]]. There are at least two people on this page other than you and the moderator. Know that I consider you very lucky -- and sheltered -- for an animal molester who has openly admitted to trying to get your kittens to &quot;lick&quot; your genitals and many other bad things you did to your kittens that, you admit, made them decide to scratch you for (I still have that PDF file, remember). <br /> <br /> ::::It's not that fact that you are a Christian that makes me angry. I know many Christians who are decent people. I like them. <br /> <br /> ::::The fact that you molested animals makes me very angry, but that alone is not enough to make me want to chase you to the ends of the Earth, since you have found Jesus and are no longer molesting animals. If religion keeps you from sexually abusing animals, I'm very grateful for Christianity's existence, indeed. However, the fact that you are projecting your animal abuse onto other people who haven't done things that you have done, just makes me want to hate-kill you.<br /> <br /> ::::Here's how the argument went over at Furaffinity:<br /> <br /> ::::''Crusader Cat: I was abusing animals before I found [[furotica]]. [[Furotica]] makes me happy in my pants, and [[furotica]] makes me want to abuse animals. I have abused animals, and I like [[furotica]] (and I associate the shame I feel when I abuse my pets with [[furotica]]), but Jesus has set me free, so all you furries should repent before you end up like me!''<br /> <br /> ::::''Furries: Hey, idiot! We don't find real animals arousing in the same way we don't find retarded people arousing. We haven't molested animals like you have done, nor are we compelled to. Stop projecting your sins onto others.''<br /> <br /> ::::''Crusader Cat: Stop hating me because I'm a Christian! I'm going to go make a WikiFur article about myself how I told the furries to repent of their heathen animal molesting ways and then how they attacked me because I'm a Christian. Oh, AND I'll leave out all the details about how I molested my pets to make myself look like a saint.''<br /> <br /> ::::Admittedly, your article admits that you &quot;struggle with bestiality&quot;, but that statement seems to confer that you are just resisting temptation -- not that you have actually given into your urges and have actually abused your pets, which you have done. Anyway, it's a moot point now, the mods have made their decision to let you get away with your article as it is. Just color me not impressed. -- [[Special:Contributions/206.127.78.65|206.127.78.65]] 16:55, 20 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::If molesting animals makes you angry, than give me what I deserve (Personally, I would go for Exodus 22:19) But if you don't want to do that, then at least report what I have done, since ti's illegal in America. Religion doesn't keep me from what I did, Jesus does. I am not projecting what I did on to anyone else because they didn't do what I did. I am saying don't do what I did, and people get angry for it for no reason at all. If you met someone who was a drug addict and he beat the habit, and went around speaking to encourage others not to make his mistake, would you get angry at him like he did to me? Or would you get angry at someone who called him a junky and make fun of him for his past? The Vast majority of the hate messages I received were either from people who had no idea of what I did, or didn't care. If someone calls me a filthy cat fucker, then I don't nearly mind it as much as other comments I received, because I know they have a good reason to call me that. The only honest part of that discussion is the first line (written in the wrong format, but that's just the play write in me) No one thought I was stupid for making connections like that, they were either pissed that I was asking them to come to Jesus or discussed at what I had done. This is a very pathetic staw man and is the latest in the train of lies against me. I wrote this article after I came back from Anthrocon last year, it contained no mention of what I did because I didn't admit it publicly yet. I wrote it so if someone asked about me and I didn't have time, I could just tell them to check me out here. There was nothing wrong with the way I wrote it (except for a few spelling errors) It was from an unbiased POV which is what it's supposed to be, if it was written to make me look like Billy Graham, then the Admis would have taken care of it. I left the nasty details because I wanted it to be G rated. They don't need to find the nick nacks here, if they want them then they can just as easily look up the video I provided. When I say I struggle, I mean that I'm fighting the urge, Most of the time I win, but in some cases, I lose. That's what struggle is. If I was simply resisting, then It wouldn't be a struggle. The hole drama surrounding this article was that details about what happened here placed here without any other purpose than presenting me in a negative light instead of a neutral light.{{unsigned|Crusader Cat }}<br /> <br /> ::::::&quot;Bla Bla Bla Bla&quot; LISTEN! '''You are rejected, not because you are a Christian, but because you are an animal molester using religion to condemn others innocent of your criminal activity.''' ''Even furries into [[furotica]] are not going to sexually violate their pets. Adult human beings can give consent for sexual intercourse regardless of how kinky their sex lives are. Most adult furries -- even furries into [[furotica]] -- have sex with humans. We human beings prefer sex with other human beings. The furries who have sex with beasts are ostracised by the furry community.''<br /> <br /> ::::::Unfortunately, Crusader Cat, [[furotica]] is going to attract people who want to sexually violate animals into furry fandom. Read: ANIMAL MOLESTERS LIKE YOU. Animal molesters, like you Crusader Cat, are an evil minority that, unfortunately, exists in the furry community -- as long as they don't identify themselves to other furries. As soon as animal molesters identify themselves, they get tossed out on their ass. It is noteworthy fact that if you, Crusader Cat, hadn't used the &quot;God bandaid&quot; to excuse your animal molestation -- &quot;Oh, I believe in Jesus now, so it's okay&quot; -- you would have found yourself thrown out of the furry community with the rest of the trash.<br /> <br /> ::::::Crusader Cat, because you have sexually abused your animals, you are more of a sick bastard than 99.99% of the Furry community, and have no more credibility than a child molester going down to the nearest public shopping mall and telling everyone there to repent of pedophilia. You are detested by even those who are only tempted to sexually abuse animals, because you took your sick fantasy into reality and molested actual animals -- multiple times. <br /> <br /> ::::::Yes, yes, all us furries are glad that you have found Jesus and are no longer molesting your pets. Please take your exuberance elsewhere. You need to acknowledge that you are a sick bastard who has sexually abused your pets and that most people, even most furries -- even most furries into [[furotica]] -- have no interest in sexually violating their pets. The only furries who sexually abuse their pets are furries like you, Crusader Cat, and the rest of us human beings detest furries like you. -- [[Special:Contributions/150.131.162.59|150.131.162.59]] 15:39, 22 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::::Enough! If you want to conduct a discussion on the content of this or any other article on Wikifur, you are expected to do it in a civil and diplomatic manner. Your comments are way over the line into name-calling and harassment. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 16:21, 22 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::I'm just trying to understand the disagreement here. Since the video is still up on Youtube, I'm assuming you don't mind your fetishes being public, just that the IPs aren't putting it into the right context or they are doing editorializing of their own? --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 22:55, 20 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::Maybe I can help. Crusader Cat is a penitent (remorseful) animal molester who has found Jesus and is out to &quot;cleanse&quot; the fandom of all the [[furotica]], which he believes, leads people to molest their pets like he did. The conflict with Crusader Cat is that his WikiFur article claims that people &quot;hate&quot; him for being a Christian, rather than for what he really is -- an animal molester in a public shopping mall telling everyone to repent of bestiality. -- [[Special:Contributions/150.131.162.59|150.131.162.59]] 16:09, 22 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Trying to be objective about this... ==<br /> <br /> Okay, after following the discussion and debate about the content of this article for several days, and reviewing the content of the article, I'm trying to be objective about what is appropriate. First, consider that the article is in the main article space and as such is subject to editing by any user of the site so long as it's done in good faith and in compliance with standards that apply across the site. Second, I think some of the current content might be more appropriate for [[User:Crusader Cat|Crusader Cat's user page]] rather than the article about him, since he can say pretty much whatever he wants to about himself on his user page whereas the article about him needs to comply with sitewide guidelines on articles about people. The section about receiving hate mail is probably in the latter category. While it doesn't quite say that the mail is due to his Christian beliefs, it also doesn't give what is apparently the real reason for at least some of the hate mail. Thus I think it best to simply remove the section in its entirety. Crusader Cat is welcome to put it in his user page if he wishes. Third, I think [[User:Rat|Rat]] has a valid point in asking why Crusader Cat is opposed to including something here that he's publicly admitted to in other venues. It looks to me like those trying to include the information are doing so in a manner to put a negative spin on it. As I've said before, Wikifur's policy is to respect the wishes of anyone with regard to what gets excluded from the article about them unless a good case can be made why the information should be made public. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 17:18, 22 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Okay, here is a little back story for those who lived through the 1980s. In 1980, ''Michelle Remembers'' by Lawrence Pazder was published, documenting a patient of his who was involved in satanic cults, witchcraft, and repressed memories. Many conservative Christians jumped on this, and soon after, the Satanic Ritual Abuse moral panic began to sweep the country. This, along with the writings of Rebeca Brown became the basis of many sermons about the evil conspiracy of children being sacrificed and moonlight orgies, and summoning of demons, along with the evil of Ouija boards and Dungeons and Dragons. The talk show circuit was full of programs about these conspiracies and the evils of such supposed groups. People who claimed that they were seduced by Satanic groups were coming out of the woodwork - usually conservative Christians, claiming they converted after leaving (escaping) such groups. People were put in trial based on these allegations. The McMartin preschool trial was a prime example of this. However these Satanic groups never existed, or were simply misrepresented non-christian religions (some conservative Christians view most, if not all non-christian religions as Satanic) in which the claimants had never participated. By the 1990s, independent investigations finally began to debunk Lawrence Pazder, Rebeka Brown, and the other proponents of Satanic Ritual claims. The reason I bring up SRA, is to call into question Crusader Cat's claims of what he did in the past. I've not read the PDF file in question, but I'm not convinced that any of this is true. He may merely be using this story of his fall into sin and debauchery, his finding Jesus Christ, and the struggle to overcome this. I believe he's using this issue to create a wedge-issue in furry as a way of causing as much disruption within furry, as he can. He has made statements equating sexual anthropomorphism art to bestiality and trying to extend said definitions as part of his anti-yiff campaign. It's very likely he wrote his PDF to make a point, likely a religious point, not as something merely autobiographical. --[[User:Lutriawolfe|Lutriawolfe]] 21:43, 15 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I assure you, what happened is accurate, do not make alogations like this until you can proove it. --[[User:Crusader Cat|Crusader Cat]] 16:26, 20 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: I just find this kinda far fetched unless your penis is the size of a nipple. You seem to be the kind who would go into a spiraling wave of guilt because you pitched a tent while petting your cats, then cry bestiality (&quot;It's the thought that counts in God's eyes&quot;). I'd say the burden of proof is on you. --[[User:Lutriawolfe|Lutriawolfe]] 21:02, 21 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Actually most of the problems he was having with people on FA prior to his being banned, was actually due to disparaging remarks he made about homosexuality. He would quote bible verses such as Leviticus 20:13, and link to [http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/Sodomy/homoviolence.htm the following Christian homophobic web site] to support his homophobia. Of course he'd receive a backlash in the comments, then delete his journal and post a new one claiming that people hate him because he's Christian. I guess this eventually came to a head, where he began to attack the FA administrators for supposed discrimination, before ultimately being banned.--[[User:Lutriawolfe|Lutriawolfe]] 20:11, 16 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Please refrain from personal attacks (i.e. &quot;Homophobia&quot;) Plese also refrain from lying, I did not remove the journals because I was trying to hide something, I did it because me and my friends were getting a lot of harassment. All I did was say what the Bible says about gays, and provided factal evidence to support my claims. This is what Christians do, make a claim and back it up, this is why I'm persecuted for my faith, because I make a claim and back it up. --[[User:Crusader Cat|Crusader Cat]] 16:31, 20 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::First of all &quot;homophobia&quot; isn't a personal attack. Stop trying to make yourself look like the victim here. Lutriawolfe did not accuse you of removing the journals because you were hiding something - in fact, she AGREED with you that the reason you removed them was because you were harassed. Are you even reading things before you post? And please, don't tell me you think you can post anti-homosexual material on a website that has a large majority of homosexual and bisexual members and think you won't get harassed for it. You're asking for it by posting journals like that, and you know it. You aren't the victim here. [[User:BaronVonYiffington|BaronVonYiffington]] 23:35, 20 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Yes it is, it is a derogatory term to demonise those who do not homosexuality sacred. I am the victum here, I NEVER posted anything anti gay on FA unless someone asked me. &quot;then delete his journal and post a new one claiming that people hate him because he's Christian.&quot; That's what you wrote, impling that I have something to hide. If you agreed with me, then you wouldn't have even mentioned that. I never broke any of the rules on FA, I never spammed or harassed anyone. I never showed any one anythign offensive unless the specifically asked me. Stop lying, your not good at it. --[[Crusader_Cat|Crusader Cat]] 16:21, 21 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::: Would you go into a mosque or synagogue to try to &quot;spread the word&quot; there? Would you go onto someone else's places of worship and tell them to their faces that their practices and beliefs are wrong? That would be seen as provocative and get you physically kicked out, or worse. Preaching homophobia on FA could be seen as the same thing. And by the way, just because it's in the bible doesn't make it right. The rules for owning, buying and selling of slaves is in the bible, and that's not something seen as right, these days. And there are things far worse that makes most Christians cringe before quietly ignoring them. --[[User:Lutriawolfe|Lutriawolfe]] 21:30, 21 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::: You've also advocated the execution of gays in a Livejournal post, as well as linked to fundamentalist Christian homophobic web sites. --[[User:Lutriawolfe|Lutriawolfe]] 02:15, 22 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::No, no it isn't, and nobody is being demonized. You really need to read comments before replying to them - I never once said that. That was Lutriawolfe, not me. I am BaronVonYiffington. And yeah, totally. You never broke any rules on FA - you got banned for nothing. Right, that's believable. However, I didn't accuse you of spamming or harassing anyone, so please don't put words in my mouth. Why you think these comments are coming from me, I have no idea, but you come across extremely hostile. I have not accused you of anything. However, you are a bad liar. &quot;Never showed anyone anything offensive?&quot; Let's see, you yourself said, in the comment two above this one:<br /> <br /> :::::&quot;All I did was say what the Bible says about gays, and provided factal evidence to support my claims.&quot;<br /> <br /> :::::That is offensive to gays, because it is anti-homosexual. I'm probably right in assuming your little magic space-man worship book is negative towards gays, meaning it IS offensive. --[[User:BaronVonYiffington|BaronVonYiffington]] 20:32, 21 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == No more white knighting ==<br /> <br /> For anyone tired of Crusadercat editing his own page to white knight and clear his own slate, I have begun an article on Encyclopedia Dramatica about him. Wikifur does not allow linking to ED, so you will have to go to ED and search for &quot;Crusadercat&quot; on your own. If anyone has information that is relevant to what he has done, but does not want to post it here due to fear of any sort, add it to the ED article. I realize that ED isn't exactly the best place to have a civil discussion, but at least we can put information there without having CC blank it. [[User:BaronVonYiffington|BaronVonYiffington]] 06:54, 20 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : for the record, i do not knowing crusader cat. my interest was to cleaning article up and make more factual and less speculation, and practice english grammar in process.<br /> : --[[User:Ayukawataur|Ayukawataur : FurBid-SF Administaur]] 09:50, 20 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: LOL, the banana thing is very funny, when Christians fundamentalists use the banana as a proof of God's creation and being an atheist's nightmare, because of how perfect it is. Obviously those people have not seen a REAL banana. [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/eb/Inside_a_wild-type_banana.jpg Here] is a picture of a real banana as nature has intended. Wild bananas are sad little masses of husk and seeds that would not win any culinary awards. However, they are correct, our bananas didn't evolve, they were created, though their creator is humans. Thousands of years of selective breeding have given us the curved yellow seedless delight. --[[User:Lutriawolfe|Lutriawolfe]] 20:38, 21 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Checking through the history of the talk page, I see that Crusader Cat tried to delete the entire &quot;No more white knighting&quot; category. Why is that? Something on there you want hidden, on a site where you can't put spin on it? --[[User:BaronVonYiffington|BaronVonYiffington]] 20:46, 21 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Double Standards ==<br /> Hey CrusaderCat, may I ask why you reported several dozen pieces for &quot;hate speech&quot; and &quot;anti-christianity&quot;, which led to your banning on FA, but have several anti-atheist pieces in your gallery? I refer of course to things such as: http://crusadercat.deviantart.com/art/The-Atheist-136647204 , where you say being an atheist makes you lack common sense, http://crusadercat.deviantart.com/art/No-atheists-in-fox-holes-137003662 , where you say Atheists don't exist and therefor cannot be soldiers, or http://crusadercat.deviantart.com/art/The-atheist-nightmare-137010787 where you say bananas give Atheists nightmares. Why is it okay for you to report anyone with anti-christian art for &quot;hate speech&quot; when you have anti-atheist hate speech in your own gallery? --[[User:BaronVonYiffington|BaronVonYiffington]] 03:21, 21 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :If people can post anti-Christian crap and get away with it, then I can post anti-atheist stuff and get away with it. --[[Crusader_Cat|Crusader Cat]] 16:22 21 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Really, is that what they teach Christians now a days? Eye for an eye? Two wrongs don't make a right... that's something Jesus would say, right? Just because you can get away with it, doesn't mean you should do it. That is VERY un-Christian-like. --[[User:BaronVonYiffington|BaronVonYiffington]] 20:32, 21 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: is it possible to keep on topic and not degenerate to a religion bashing festival?<br /> ::: thank you.<br /> ::: --[[User:Ayukawataur|Ayukawataur : FurBid-SF Administaur]] 22:40, 21 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::This is on topic and is relating to his banning from FurAffinity. I want to know why he thinks it is okay for him to bash Atheists, but NOT okay for others to bash Christians. It is a legitimate question that pertains to the reports he filed on FurAffinity, which led to his ban. I have said nothing to bash a religion. --[[User:BaronVonYiffington|BaronVonYiffington]] 22:44, 21 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::::But it has nothing to do with WikiFur. Please take your discussions on the merits of criticism elsewhere. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 22:46, 21 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::::It pertains to the article, which mentions his banning. But white knighting is cool too. --[[User:BaronVonYiffington|BaronVonYiffington]] 22:49, 21 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Wait a sec, what's this? You want this guy to take his argument elsewhere because it has &quot;nothing to do with WikiFur&quot;? Hm. For the benefit of those of us who continue to be perplexed by WikiFur's apparently mercurial and contradictory standards, can you explain why it's not okay for some people to use WikiFur as their own personal battleground, but okay for others? What happened to covering &quot;all sides of the argument&quot; (even if that argument has nothing to do with what WikiFur is about)? I'm honestly curious, as the [[Talk:Popping|precedent you've set]] for what is (supposed to be) an encyclopedia of furry fandom continues to baffle me. &amp;mdash;[[User:Xydexx|Xydexx]] 23:26, 21 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::::::I'll admit I haven't followed both the Crusader Cat and Popping debates, maybe there's a perfectly logical distinction that can be distilled out of this. I just wanted to point out that we're not always bound by precedent. Sometimes the admin team has to decide if the end result of any debate would likely result in a benefit to the encyclopedia. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 03:28, 22 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::For the record: I think the inclusion of arguments which a) have no evidence to support them, b) have been written off as trolling attempts by administrators of the message boards they originally appeared on, and c) have nothing to do with furry fandom and anthropomorphic animals, do not belong on WikiFur. Ultimately, there's not much I can do about it, as I'm not an Admin, and the general response I've gotten from Admins when requesting assistance is that I should assume good faith and debate endlessly in order to reach consensus rather than the Admins just [[WikiFur:Speedy_deletion|dealing with it]]. So. One would assume, judging by the glacial pace that the Admins have dealt (read: failed to deal) with the issue thus far, is that importing poorly-sourced arguments which have nothing to do with what WikiFur is about is ''okay'' here, and at the risk of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Don%27t_stuff_beans_up_your_nose stuffing beans up my nose], indicates to me that anyone can insert whatever patent lunacy they like into WikiFur and it will be acceptable under the misguided notion that WikiFur has a duty to tell &quot;all sides&quot; of the story&amp;mdash;even though it isn't appropriate for WikiFur in the first place. &amp;mdash;[[User:Xydexx|Xydexx]] 06:59, 23 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::::I seem to remember [[Talk:Richard Chandler/Archive1#Enough|telling another couple of people]] to take their personal arguments elsewhere. Don't act surprised when I do the same for others. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 03:39, 22 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::Right. I [http://en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Richard_Chandler&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=228881 also] [http://en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Richard_Chandler&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=228999 remember] telling people to take their personal arguments elsewhere, so you can drop the holier-than-thou routine. So what's with the inconsistency, then? ''That's'' the surprising part. Do arguments that have ''nothing to do with WikiFur'' belong here or not? You've yet to clarify this after, what, four months now? And if you're unwilling to take a stand one way or another, don't act surprised when people call you on your inconsistency. If WikiFur needs to cover &quot;all sides of the argument&quot; (as you seem to believe it does WRT Popping), then why the opposition to covering a similar controversy between Christianity and Atheism? &amp;mdash;[[User:Xydexx|Xydexx]] 06:24, 22 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::::::: xydexx - my interpretation of the situation and what i have seen.<br /> ::::::::: greenreaper has answer the question. tl;dr wikifur does each issue on a case by case basis. they know they can not provide a blanket rule for all possible situation. there will all ways be exception and will all time be loop hole. same as there will all time be abuse of the decision that have make. both of decision and of people who make.<br /> ::::::::: also, and this is personal view not wikifur staff view (i am not staff here), what you are doing is not discuss or debate. you are make personal and offensive attack against other person and/or persons faith and hide it with term of question and debate. this issue is not, and never has being about christianity or atheism. it is about a person and their personal interpretation of a faith.<br /> ::::::::: no fight christianity and atheism. this is not a place for that. no try to hide what is obvious and call what is not. it is offensive action and any objective person can see such. his action are his. his choice are his. your action are your. your choice are your. both need to take responsibility and stop try force on other.<br /> ::::::::: --[[User:Ayukawataur|Ayukawataur : FurBid-SF Administaur]] 18:36, 22 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::I think you're misinterpreting my comments; they are not an attack on anyone's faith, but a question of whether WikiFur is an appropriate forum to hash out arguments which have nothing to do with what WikiFur is about. &amp;mdash;[[User:Xydexx|Xydexx]] 20:02, 22 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::::...And another three of the many things that Wikifur is '''not''' is creation of fake/hoax articles, vandal/non-serious edits of articles ([[Forum:Popping (Under revision)]]), and harassment/disrespect of users/editors/Sysops ([[User talk:Wolfkid23]]) [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 20:22, 23 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Exclusion request ==<br /> <br /> Crusader Cat has submitted a request for [[Wikifur:Personal exclusion|personal exclusion]] from Wikifur. Such requests are generally granted unless a good case can be made that it is in the interest of furry fandom that [[WikiFur:Personal information|some of the information be publicized]]. Given the amount of controversy that this article has attracted, we believe the request merits discussion here before a decision is made. Does anyone reading this believe there is sufficient cause that the exclusion request should not be allowed? --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 15:03, 29 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :Where should I start? For starters, he wants to bury his past and play victim. Let's not give him this benefit of an attempt to wipe his severely unstable past history and personal beliefs from a site with the purpose of having information on other furs.<br /> <br /> :The wiki page doesn't include his name, which I believe the article would benefit. He claims people are threatening his his, which is false. I've personally seen on FA discussions where he claims people are threatening him, which they are not. The conversation goes in reference how homosexuals should be hit, killed, or struck, then some person stated,(summary)&quot;Does this mean I can start to punch Christians?&quot; He claims these statements are threats.<br /> <br /> :Crusader Cat was given many chances to correct his own actions, which he did not listen. Instead of dropping it he insisted on enforcing his current behavior. This is what eventually lead to his ban at FA.<br /> <br /> :I should add, his request is timely with his being on front page of Encyclopedia Dramatica. He removed his youtube, dA, and other materials from accounts on the web. IF, and thats a BIG IF, he is quitting the fandom, the page would be okay to remove. However I'd doubt he would be quitting the fandom, from his past behavior I've seen this to be the &quot;bury my past&quot; and not &quot;I'm leaving the fandom.&quot; He simply wants to play victim, which is the result of his own dastardly behavior.<br /> <br /> :When you do not removed his page, he will send you a legal threat, I guarantee it.<br /> :There is not a reason in the world why his page should be removed. --[[User:Insane Kangaroo|Insane Kangaroo]] 16:20, 29 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Don't listed to Insane Kangaroo, he is one of the people on FA who would harass me by making porn of my fursona (which was removed) and was giving out my privet information on Live journal (which was also removed) People have in fact threatened my life, one person on FA who did this a lot is Fuzzy_Wolfy. She said I &quot;Should be shot in the face&quot;. Because of these threats, I have to keep my real name secret to protect my family. I never advocated the harassment or murder of homosexuals, the following people on FA are friends of mine that happen to be gay or bi: Mercifur, lilfurbal, Yiffdakat, FurryWriter. I am still getting harassed on FA by Insane Kangaroo (check the shouts on my page). I have done nothing to warrant this kind of behavior from furries or trolls (then again, not many of us do) I would like this article to be removed for sake of the administrators, I don't want you to go through Hell to protect my honor. This page has become nothing more than a battle ground to destroy my reputation, I will not have defamation on this site. Also, the information on my page in inaccurate, I did not upload a video saying &quot;Being gay is NOT ok&quot; I don't even have an account on that video site. --[[User:Crusader Cat|Crusader Cat]] 12:37 29 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::Crusader, the video is newsworthy and it's being used to in critique. If you try to have it removed, I guarantee someone will post the video along with your real name, fur name, along with other information. Your real name is already on Encyclopedia Dramatica, along with your real picture. Good luck on getting a job with a large employer, especially when they google your name.<br /> <br /> ::I only drew a picture to mock the whole situation, it is your own fault you started to cry wolf and take it farther than you should have taken. Look on FA, Chewfox did not have any issues after she came back. Do you really think people treated you any differently? No. You blew it WAY out of proportion, making it big by yourself.<br /> <br /> ::I haven't harassed you at all, especially on your shouts page. I'm simply keeping the community up to date in regards to what drama you're causing. My point is verified with your post. You are trying to &quot;bury history&quot; over dastardly acts which you've committed in the past.<br /> <br /> ::&quot;Should be shot&quot; is not a threat, sorry. Such a statement is freedom of speech of one's own mind. There is not legally a muster of intent on the part of Fuzzy_Wolfy's statement. Any officer will tell you this, especially when making a police report.<br /> <br /> ::By your own standards Crusader Cat, your preach hate speech which is 'illegal' even though not by today's legal standards. You preach intolerance against homosexuals, which is very impolite and cowardly.<br /> <br /> ::My satire drawings may have been removed from FA, but I hosted them elsewhere. My drawing appears to have been uploaded to Encyclopedia Dramatica. --[[User:Insane Kangaroo|Insane Kangaroo]] 16:55 29 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Your a lier, your kind is not welcome on this site. You drew a pic of me having anal sex with a dinosaur, that is harassment, if you were making fun of the situation, You would not have drawn me. Plus, you wouldn't know so much about the stuff on ED unless you frequent that site. You are a troll, and your trying to bring your undesirable lies here. I'm not trying to bury my history, I'm trying to protect those close to me. &quot;Should be shot is a threat, I have gotten others involving crucifixion (just check ED). I don't nor have I ever preached hate or intolerance against gay people. Saying being gay is wrong is not hate speech. Talk to all my gay friends and they will prove you wrong. That drawing was not satyr, it is harassment, you use that as an excuse to avoid copyright laws, now that is cowardly. Stop posting here, and stop harassing me. You didn't get away with this on FA, you didn't get away with this on LJ, and you won't here. The administrators here are not idiots, they know what their doing. --[[User:Crusader Cat|Crusader Cat]] 12:37 29 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :Crusader Cat just tried to vandalize his page by blanking most of the content. --[[User:Insane Kangaroo|Insane Kangaroo]] 17:28 29 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Without even addressing the question of whether Crusader Cat actually made the statements, or whether they are being misrepresented or taken out of context, I would ask whether that matters. Being disagreeable or undiplomatic, expressing controversial opinions, or being difficult to work with, are not in themselves reasons to deny a personal exclusion request (and I'm speaking in general terms here, not taking sides on where CC falls on that spectrum). They would have to represent a credible threat to cause physical, emotional, financial or material harm to others, or evidence of having actually done so in the past, to merit denial.<br /> <br /> On Wikifur we generally have a more relaxed sourcing policy than on Wikipedia. However, when it comes to controversial statements or any information that may reflect negatively on a person, the standards for sourcing go way up. Any &quot;negative&quot; statements about CC WILL require external references to back them up. You can argue at length about what CC did or did not say or what he meant, but the official admin response is going to be, &quot;show us the refs&quot;.<br /> <br /> Here's one more acid test on whether to deny personal exclusion: If there were currently no article on Wikifur about CC, do you believe there is enough public &quot;need to know&quot; that you would have cause to create one for that purpose? --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 18:01, 29 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :I agree absolutely with your points. If [[Crusader Cat]] did not exist after all this drama, would it be created? He treaded and continues to tread dangerous waters. Would the removal of [[Alan T. Panda]] be granted if luring a child was not unlawful and he requested removal? We're talking about the topic of taboo and sex.<br /> <br /> :My only reason I believe Crusader Cat should be denied removal equates to him trying to bury his past. I realize he isn't going to be able to bury his past since there are several sources already on the web which happen to be the first hit in google for both his fur name and real name. However, people use wikifur as a means to quickly look up information about a person. Showing through references how crusader cat has treated others is very important for those who may not wish to be subjected to such behavior/statements.<br /> <br /> :People who are curious in regards to the Fur Affinity ban can also look up information on his page. While people may go to ED for the information, many would rather go to a source which is more credible, has references, and is semi-neutral.--[[User:Insane Kangaroo|Insane Kangaroo]] 18:32 29 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Also, I see on your page, http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/User_talk:Mwalimu#Please_remove_my_page, where Crusader Cat made the request. &quot;A flame war of the epic variety has started up. I would like you to remove my page, I don't want you guys getting swamped with trolling. Sorry for any trouble I caused you.&quot; is his exact request. His request appears to be regarding vandalism, though I still believe he is using the incident to bury history. <br /> <br /> :From the aspect of vandalism. Pages shouldn't be removed simply because a person ends up on the front page of ED. It will pass, and something else will be on the front page. This is manageable and many are already +watch'ing his entry to revert vandalism.--[[User:Insane Kangaroo|Insane Kangaroo]] 19:02 29 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I removed most of the stuff on my page because there was no evidence to back any of it up. My real name and my face is being distributed by people who want to harass me (Insane Kangaroo is one of them) and this could cause harm to my family. Please remove this page for protection of my family. Do not trust Insane Kangaroo, he has harassed me on FA and LJ and in both cases, was reprimanded by the administrators, and now he's trying to harass me here. Linking to and ED article about me on my user page after I was banned is NOT keeping anything up to date, especially since you admit that ED is unreliable yourself. it is harassment. I'm not trying to hide my past, I'm trying to protect my loved ones (this includes the admins here. There is not enough info on the web to write an article about me, nothing more than a message on my FA page, which is no ones business anyway. --[[User:Crusader Cat|Crusader Cat]] 12:37 29 September 2009 (UTC)</div>

Crusader Cat //en.wikifur.com/wiki/Talk:Crusader_Cat 2009-09-29T20:21:28Z

<p>Crusader Cat: </p> <hr /> <div>Crusader Cat is editing his own WikiFur page to obfuscate the fact that he has admitted to sexual abuse of animals. He has written his article to hide the fact that the reason furries are angry with him is not because he is a Christian, but rather that he is using his religious beliefs to project his crimes onto others not guilty of his sin of animal rape.--[[Special:Contributions/150.131.162.41|150.131.162.41]] 17:41, 16 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Controversial claims must not only be well sourced, but when it is about a person, there must be a good argument why the information should be made public. Just because something is true doesn't necessarily mean it belongs here. If you wish to continue your efforts to include the information in the article, please register an account to do so. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 16:28, 17 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Absolutely! Unfortunately, Crusader Cat has deleted the Adobe Acrobat PDF file from his FurAffinity account where he describes, in graphic detail, of sexually abusing his pets. Before Crusader Cat deleted his PDF file confessing animal sexual abuse from FurAffinity, I saved it to my computer. I would be happy to expose all supporting documents of Crusader Cat's confession of sexually abusing his pets if you would kindly link to me a document describing how I might upload these documents directly to WikiFur.<br /> <br /> ::I not only have that PDF file saved to my computer as evidence of his crime, but the video I sourced in Crusader Cat's article, that you deleted, shows Crusader Cat confessing to molesting his pets. Anyone reading this, interested in watching Crusader Cat admit to sexually abusing his pets, can go through the history of the Crusader Cat article and find the video sourced in a previous version of the article of Crusader Cat confessing to sexually abusing his animals.<br /> <br /> ::The integrity of WikiFur is at stake when people guilty of serious crimes can produce false articles depicting themselves as clean, moral, and decent people. A false &quot;Crusader&quot; who is actually more guilty of the crime of animal sexual abuse than most all furries should never be tolerated to hide his past. How would you like it if a criminal donned the title &quot;crusader&quot; and then came to your social group commanding you and your friends to repent of a crime none of you had committed -- but he had? That is what is happening here, and Crusader Cat is exploiting WikiFur as the source of documentation of the furry fandom to whitewash his past. Crusader Cat pretends like those who disagree with him hate him for being a Christian when the reality is that he is hated because he sexually molested his pets and then approached furries as a saint offering forgiveness when he is the one who needs forgiveness for his detestable crime of animal rape.<br /> <br /> ::No one should be allowed to use WikiFur as a platform to produce a sparkling clean article about themselves when reality is quite different. No one should be allowed to drum up support for a cause, when they themselves are in gross violation of the cause they purport to represent without exposure of the facts of their past crimes. No one guilty of serious crimes should use WikiFur to falsely portray themselves as a pious angel of religious indemnity while feigning innocence and condemning others. The truth is that those people Crusader Cat claims are &quot;haters of Christianity&quot; are, in actuality, angry of Crusader Cat's sexual abuse of animals followed by falsely accusing others guilty of his crime while pretentiously wrapping himself up in a cloak of holiness. <br /> <br /> ::Again, I would be happy to expose all supporting documents of Crusader Cat's confession of sexually abusing his pets if you would kindly link to me a document describing how I might upload these documents directly to WikiFur. Why should a animal molestor, such as Crusader Cat, be allowed to make himself a sparkling clean article of himself as a Crusader against sexual abuse without exposing his own past as a animal abuser? Seems to me, Crusader Cat is more guilty of the crime of animal sex abuse than most of the furries he condemns. -- [[Special:Contributions/150.131.162.175|150.131.162.175]] 20:53, 17 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Just tell me, who are you on FA? Assuming of course your a furry and not a troll. {{unsigned|Crusader Cat}}<br /> <br /> == I support including this information here. ==<br /> <br /> Crusader Cat has written this article in order to show himself in the best possible light. This is human nature and is to be expected. However, WikiFur should not be used for whitewashing one’s past. CC is disliked by many due to his sexual abuse of animals, and while CC claims that he is disliked for being Christian, the real reason for many peoples dislike should be shown.<br /> <br /> To 150.131.162.175, please create an account here and start the process of formally adding this information. I did not save CC's PDF file. [[Special:Contributions/173.45.201.98|173.45.201.98]] 11:03, 18 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Additionally: I would like to point out that CC has responded to 150.131.162.175 on FA. I can only assume he presumes FA a better venue for the discussion.<br /> :&quot;Stop wasting your time, the admin there are not retarded and aren't going to fall for your tricks. What you are doing is illegal, immoral, and cowardly. People have tried this to me before and their IP's got banned, Yours will too soon and all hope of doing anything there will be gone for good.&quot;<br /> :http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/788774/<br /> : [[Special:Contributions/173.45.201.98|173.45.201.98]] 11:07, 18 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I am hated because I am a Christian, much of the hate mail I received was from people who had no knowledge of what I have done. Check the link and you will see that there is no recorded message of someone getting angry with me because of mistakes I made. I wrote this article to portray myself in the most neutral possible light. This article was altered to portray myself in the worst possible light. the Admins knew this and that's why they called him out on it. It is well within my right to respond to the other guy through other mediums (assuming he's on FA) and is not the busness of the admins here. Thus, this new information is just as useless as the previous information. {{unsigned|Crusader Cat}}<br /> <br /> :We at Wikifur make an effort to be good neighbors in the furry community. A part of that deals with how we handle derogatory or controversial information about people. Most if not all of us have done things in that past that are less than admirable; we are not about digging up dirt on people. Our policy on such information is that in order for it to be allowable on the site, first, we hold it to a higher standard of verifiability than most other information on the site, and second, that a good case can be made that it is in the public interest of furry fandom that this information be made public. <br /> :The claim has been made that Crusader Cat has sexually abused animals in the past. I have not reviewed the evidence enough to form an opinion of whether that's true, but even if it is, I'm not convinced it belongs here. I will review the available information later on (I can't do it right now because I'm at work and my employer blocks access to a couple of the websites where the information resides). If this appears to be something that he is currently practicing and advocating, I might be convinced to change my mind, but if it's only past transgressions or questionable accusations we're talking about here, I probably won't. (Disclaimer: This is one admin's opinion; other admins may have differing views on how best to handle this situation.)<br /> :By the way, I'm a furry Christian and I've never received any hate mail because of it. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 17:33, 18 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: The reason I believe the information should be included is CC's desire to claim persecution solely for being Christian. Whereas many dislike him for what he's done in the past (and claiming other furries do). Thank you for your professionalism, by the way, not every 'Christian' is willing to listen to reason in situations where an evangelical is arguing against others. --[[Special:Contributions/173.45.201.98|173.45.201.98]] 23:52, 18 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::While the claim itself is true, the recent edit by this person was created in such a way to create a mental slant against me. When you have the time, check out the youtube video or the essay on furtopia. I myself have admitted here on Wikifur that I have had struggles with bestiality, that's all anyone coming here needs to know, they don't need to know the nasty details of what I have done, if they can then they can easily check the links provided. Nor do the people coming here need to know the ins and outs of what I have said in the essay (i.e. telling exactly what segments of the video in witch I am making a claim) Also, the claim that many people hate me for what I have done is inaccurate. Very few people got angry because of this, and this person is obviously one of them. Once again, check the link and see that there is no evidence that I have documented which makes mention of zoophile bashing hate messages. While I am currently struggling with bestiality, I am not practicing, and I am most definitely not advocating it (as you will see by reading the essay). I am glad to find that you also are a Christian, and envy you for the peace you have experienced among the fandom. Presumably, God has called you as a witness to someone else other than furries so you are not actively involved in trying to bring more furrs to Christ. That being said, it is understandable if no other furrs have persecuted you, I hope your association with me will not bring any undeserved hatred on you. I trust and pray that you and the other admins will make a wise decision. {{unsigned|Crusader Cat}} -- confirmable at http://en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Crusader_Cat&amp;action=history 18:36, 18 June 2009 Crusader Cat<br /> <br /> :::I have a question, Crusader Cat. If you have nothing to hide about your criminal past as you claim, why have you attempted to blank the mere discussion of your user article (the page you are reading right now) multiple times? Check the history ( http://en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Crusader_Cat&amp;action=history ) of this page ( [[Talk:Crusader Cat]] ) for proof of your attempts to blank this page four times. --[[Special:Contributions/150.131.162.92|150.131.162.92]] 21:48, 18 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Now that I've had a chance to review both YouTube videos on my own time, I stand by what I said earlier. Referring to Crusader Cat's past acts as a &quot;criminal past&quot; is questionable at best and putting a pejorative spin on it at the minimum. I could say a lot more but there are better places for it than a Wikifur talk page. At this time I see no reason to include any more negative statements about CC than what he has included on his own. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 03:58, 19 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I was not aware that this needed to remain up for historical reasons. After seeing it re uploaded several times, I was told by one of the other admins here that It had to stay up, now that this drama is basically over I might be deleted again (unless the admins say other wise). what you posted here is no different from the other times people come here to harass me, thus I did not feel it belonged here. But since it apparently does, it can be a record of your bias and hatred toward someone who is just doing what his God asked of him.{{unsigned|Crusader Cat }}<br /> <br /> ::CC, please remember to indent responses and sign them. Four tilde's will do it. Also, it is generally considered bad form to clear discussions, especially considering as this discussion has been civil, despite what you claim. Leaving this discussion will show that the issue has been brought up and discussed. [[Special:Contributions/173.45.201.98|173.45.201.98]] 12:40, 19 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I don't know how to indent. This discussing has been anything but civil from your end. Civil people don't do the sick things you have done to get revenge on me. You still didn't tell me who you were on FA, assuming you have an account there.{{unsigned|Crusader Cat }}<br /> <br /> :::: You never asked me, I found this from your own page. /My/ FA user name is Irbisgreif. I don't know who [[Special:Contributions/206.127.78.65|206.127.78.65]] is. Perhaps if you noted styles this would have been obvious, as I have made no effort to hide who I am. [[Special:Contributions/173.45.201.98|173.45.201.98]] 21:30, 20 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Use colons to indent. You should know that I, [[Special:Contributions/206.127.78.65|206.127.78.65]] 16:55, 20 June 2009 (UTC), am different from [[Special:Contributions/173.45.201.98|173.45.201.98]]. There are at least two people on this page other than you and the moderator. Know that I consider you very lucky -- and sheltered -- for an animal molester who has openly admitted to trying to get your kittens to &quot;lick&quot; your genitals and many other bad things you did to your kittens that, you admit, made them decide to scratch you for (I still have that PDF file, remember). <br /> <br /> ::::It's not that fact that you are a Christian that makes me angry. I know many Christians who are decent people. I like them. <br /> <br /> ::::The fact that you molested animals makes me very angry, but that alone is not enough to make me want to chase you to the ends of the Earth, since you have found Jesus and are no longer molesting animals. If religion keeps you from sexually abusing animals, I'm very grateful for Christianity's existence, indeed. However, the fact that you are projecting your animal abuse onto other people who haven't done things that you have done, just makes me want to hate-kill you.<br /> <br /> ::::Here's how the argument went over at Furaffinity:<br /> <br /> ::::''Crusader Cat: I was abusing animals before I found [[furotica]]. [[Furotica]] makes me happy in my pants, and [[furotica]] makes me want to abuse animals. I have abused animals, and I like [[furotica]] (and I associate the shame I feel when I abuse my pets with [[furotica]]), but Jesus has set me free, so all you furries should repent before you end up like me!''<br /> <br /> ::::''Furries: Hey, idiot! We don't find real animals arousing in the same way we don't find retarded people arousing. We haven't molested animals like you have done, nor are we compelled to. Stop projecting your sins onto others.''<br /> <br /> ::::''Crusader Cat: Stop hating me because I'm a Christian! I'm going to go make a WikiFur article about myself how I told the furries to repent of their heathen animal molesting ways and then how they attacked me because I'm a Christian. Oh, AND I'll leave out all the details about how I molested my pets to make myself look like a saint.''<br /> <br /> ::::Admittedly, your article admits that you &quot;struggle with bestiality&quot;, but that statement seems to confer that you are just resisting temptation -- not that you have actually given into your urges and have actually abused your pets, which you have done. Anyway, it's a moot point now, the mods have made their decision to let you get away with your article as it is. Just color me not impressed. -- [[Special:Contributions/206.127.78.65|206.127.78.65]] 16:55, 20 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::If molesting animals makes you angry, than give me what I deserve (Personally, I would go for Exodus 22:19) But if you don't want to do that, then at least report what I have done, since ti's illegal in America. Religion doesn't keep me from what I did, Jesus does. I am not projecting what I did on to anyone else because they didn't do what I did. I am saying don't do what I did, and people get angry for it for no reason at all. If you met someone who was a drug addict and he beat the habit, and went around speaking to encourage others not to make his mistake, would you get angry at him like he did to me? Or would you get angry at someone who called him a junky and make fun of him for his past? The Vast majority of the hate messages I received were either from people who had no idea of what I did, or didn't care. If someone calls me a filthy cat fucker, then I don't nearly mind it as much as other comments I received, because I know they have a good reason to call me that. The only honest part of that discussion is the first line (written in the wrong format, but that's just the play write in me) No one thought I was stupid for making connections like that, they were either pissed that I was asking them to come to Jesus or discussed at what I had done. This is a very pathetic staw man and is the latest in the train of lies against me. I wrote this article after I came back from Anthrocon last year, it contained no mention of what I did because I didn't admit it publicly yet. I wrote it so if someone asked about me and I didn't have time, I could just tell them to check me out here. There was nothing wrong with the way I wrote it (except for a few spelling errors) It was from an unbiased POV which is what it's supposed to be, if it was written to make me look like Billy Graham, then the Admis would have taken care of it. I left the nasty details because I wanted it to be G rated. They don't need to find the nick nacks here, if they want them then they can just as easily look up the video I provided. When I say I struggle, I mean that I'm fighting the urge, Most of the time I win, but in some cases, I lose. That's what struggle is. If I was simply resisting, then It wouldn't be a struggle. The hole drama surrounding this article was that details about what happened here placed here without any other purpose than presenting me in a negative light instead of a neutral light.{{unsigned|Crusader Cat }}<br /> <br /> ::::::&quot;Bla Bla Bla Bla&quot; LISTEN! '''You are rejected, not because you are a Christian, but because you are an animal molester using religion to condemn others innocent of your criminal activity.''' ''Even furries into [[furotica]] are not going to sexually violate their pets. Adult human beings can give consent for sexual intercourse regardless of how kinky their sex lives are. Most adult furries -- even furries into [[furotica]] -- have sex with humans. We human beings prefer sex with other human beings. The furries who have sex with beasts are ostracised by the furry community.''<br /> <br /> ::::::Unfortunately, Crusader Cat, [[furotica]] is going to attract people who want to sexually violate animals into furry fandom. Read: ANIMAL MOLESTERS LIKE YOU. Animal molesters, like you Crusader Cat, are an evil minority that, unfortunately, exists in the furry community -- as long as they don't identify themselves to other furries. As soon as animal molesters identify themselves, they get tossed out on their ass. It is noteworthy fact that if you, Crusader Cat, hadn't used the &quot;God bandaid&quot; to excuse your animal molestation -- &quot;Oh, I believe in Jesus now, so it's okay&quot; -- you would have found yourself thrown out of the furry community with the rest of the trash.<br /> <br /> ::::::Crusader Cat, because you have sexually abused your animals, you are more of a sick bastard than 99.99% of the Furry community, and have no more credibility than a child molester going down to the nearest public shopping mall and telling everyone there to repent of pedophilia. You are detested by even those who are only tempted to sexually abuse animals, because you took your sick fantasy into reality and molested actual animals -- multiple times. <br /> <br /> ::::::Yes, yes, all us furries are glad that you have found Jesus and are no longer molesting your pets. Please take your exuberance elsewhere. You need to acknowledge that you are a sick bastard who has sexually abused your pets and that most people, even most furries -- even most furries into [[furotica]] -- have no interest in sexually violating their pets. The only furries who sexually abuse their pets are furries like you, Crusader Cat, and the rest of us human beings detest furries like you. -- [[Special:Contributions/150.131.162.59|150.131.162.59]] 15:39, 22 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::::Enough! If you want to conduct a discussion on the content of this or any other article on Wikifur, you are expected to do it in a civil and diplomatic manner. Your comments are way over the line into name-calling and harassment. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 16:21, 22 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::I'm just trying to understand the disagreement here. Since the video is still up on Youtube, I'm assuming you don't mind your fetishes being public, just that the IPs aren't putting it into the right context or they are doing editorializing of their own? --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 22:55, 20 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::Maybe I can help. Crusader Cat is a penitent (remorseful) animal molester who has found Jesus and is out to &quot;cleanse&quot; the fandom of all the [[furotica]], which he believes, leads people to molest their pets like he did. The conflict with Crusader Cat is that his WikiFur article claims that people &quot;hate&quot; him for being a Christian, rather than for what he really is -- an animal molester in a public shopping mall telling everyone to repent of bestiality. -- [[Special:Contributions/150.131.162.59|150.131.162.59]] 16:09, 22 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Trying to be objective about this... ==<br /> <br /> Okay, after following the discussion and debate about the content of this article for several days, and reviewing the content of the article, I'm trying to be objective about what is appropriate. First, consider that the article is in the main article space and as such is subject to editing by any user of the site so long as it's done in good faith and in compliance with standards that apply across the site. Second, I think some of the current content might be more appropriate for [[User:Crusader Cat|Crusader Cat's user page]] rather than the article about him, since he can say pretty much whatever he wants to about himself on his user page whereas the article about him needs to comply with sitewide guidelines on articles about people. The section about receiving hate mail is probably in the latter category. While it doesn't quite say that the mail is due to his Christian beliefs, it also doesn't give what is apparently the real reason for at least some of the hate mail. Thus I think it best to simply remove the section in its entirety. Crusader Cat is welcome to put it in his user page if he wishes. Third, I think [[User:Rat|Rat]] has a valid point in asking why Crusader Cat is opposed to including something here that he's publicly admitted to in other venues. It looks to me like those trying to include the information are doing so in a manner to put a negative spin on it. As I've said before, Wikifur's policy is to respect the wishes of anyone with regard to what gets excluded from the article about them unless a good case can be made why the information should be made public. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 17:18, 22 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Okay, here is a little back story for those who lived through the 1980s. In 1980, ''Michelle Remembers'' by Lawrence Pazder was published, documenting a patient of his who was involved in satanic cults, witchcraft, and repressed memories. Many conservative Christians jumped on this, and soon after, the Satanic Ritual Abuse moral panic began to sweep the country. This, along with the writings of Rebeca Brown became the basis of many sermons about the evil conspiracy of children being sacrificed and moonlight orgies, and summoning of demons, along with the evil of Ouija boards and Dungeons and Dragons. The talk show circuit was full of programs about these conspiracies and the evils of such supposed groups. People who claimed that they were seduced by Satanic groups were coming out of the woodwork - usually conservative Christians, claiming they converted after leaving (escaping) such groups. People were put in trial based on these allegations. The McMartin preschool trial was a prime example of this. However these Satanic groups never existed, or were simply misrepresented non-christian religions (some conservative Christians view most, if not all non-christian religions as Satanic) in which the claimants had never participated. By the 1990s, independent investigations finally began to debunk Lawrence Pazder, Rebeka Brown, and the other proponents of Satanic Ritual claims. The reason I bring up SRA, is to call into question Crusader Cat's claims of what he did in the past. I've not read the PDF file in question, but I'm not convinced that any of this is true. He may merely be using this story of his fall into sin and debauchery, his finding Jesus Christ, and the struggle to overcome this. I believe he's using this issue to create a wedge-issue in furry as a way of causing as much disruption within furry, as he can. He has made statements equating sexual anthropomorphism art to bestiality and trying to extend said definitions as part of his anti-yiff campaign. It's very likely he wrote his PDF to make a point, likely a religious point, not as something merely autobiographical. --[[User:Lutriawolfe|Lutriawolfe]] 21:43, 15 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I assure you, what happened is accurate, do not make alogations like this until you can proove it. --[[User:Crusader Cat|Crusader Cat]] 16:26, 20 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: I just find this kinda far fetched unless your penis is the size of a nipple. You seem to be the kind who would go into a spiraling wave of guilt because you pitched a tent while petting your cats, then cry bestiality (&quot;It's the thought that counts in God's eyes&quot;). I'd say the burden of proof is on you. --[[User:Lutriawolfe|Lutriawolfe]] 21:02, 21 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Actually most of the problems he was having with people on FA prior to his being banned, was actually due to disparaging remarks he made about homosexuality. He would quote bible verses such as Leviticus 20:13, and link to [http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/Sodomy/homoviolence.htm the following Christian homophobic web site] to support his homophobia. Of course he'd receive a backlash in the comments, then delete his journal and post a new one claiming that people hate him because he's Christian. I guess this eventually came to a head, where he began to attack the FA administrators for supposed discrimination, before ultimately being banned.--[[User:Lutriawolfe|Lutriawolfe]] 20:11, 16 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Please refrain from personal attacks (i.e. &quot;Homophobia&quot;) Plese also refrain from lying, I did not remove the journals because I was trying to hide something, I did it because me and my friends were getting a lot of harassment. All I did was say what the Bible says about gays, and provided factal evidence to support my claims. This is what Christians do, make a claim and back it up, this is why I'm persecuted for my faith, because I make a claim and back it up. --[[User:Crusader Cat|Crusader Cat]] 16:31, 20 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::First of all &quot;homophobia&quot; isn't a personal attack. Stop trying to make yourself look like the victim here. Lutriawolfe did not accuse you of removing the journals because you were hiding something - in fact, she AGREED with you that the reason you removed them was because you were harassed. Are you even reading things before you post? And please, don't tell me you think you can post anti-homosexual material on a website that has a large majority of homosexual and bisexual members and think you won't get harassed for it. You're asking for it by posting journals like that, and you know it. You aren't the victim here. [[User:BaronVonYiffington|BaronVonYiffington]] 23:35, 20 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Yes it is, it is a derogatory term to demonise those who do not homosexuality sacred. I am the victum here, I NEVER posted anything anti gay on FA unless someone asked me. &quot;then delete his journal and post a new one claiming that people hate him because he's Christian.&quot; That's what you wrote, impling that I have something to hide. If you agreed with me, then you wouldn't have even mentioned that. I never broke any of the rules on FA, I never spammed or harassed anyone. I never showed any one anythign offensive unless the specifically asked me. Stop lying, your not good at it. --[[Crusader_Cat|Crusader Cat]] 16:21, 21 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::: Would you go into a mosque or synagogue to try to &quot;spread the word&quot; there? Would you go onto someone else's places of worship and tell them to their faces that their practices and beliefs are wrong? That would be seen as provocative and get you physically kicked out, or worse. Preaching homophobia on FA could be seen as the same thing. And by the way, just because it's in the bible doesn't make it right. The rules for owning, buying and selling of slaves is in the bible, and that's not something seen as right, these days. And there are things far worse that makes most Christians cringe before quietly ignoring them. --[[User:Lutriawolfe|Lutriawolfe]] 21:30, 21 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::: You've also advocated the execution of gays in a Livejournal post, as well as linked to fundamentalist Christian homophobic web sites. --[[User:Lutriawolfe|Lutriawolfe]] 02:15, 22 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::No, no it isn't, and nobody is being demonized. You really need to read comments before replying to them - I never once said that. That was Lutriawolfe, not me. I am BaronVonYiffington. And yeah, totally. You never broke any rules on FA - you got banned for nothing. Right, that's believable. However, I didn't accuse you of spamming or harassing anyone, so please don't put words in my mouth. Why you think these comments are coming from me, I have no idea, but you come across extremely hostile. I have not accused you of anything. However, you are a bad liar. &quot;Never showed anyone anything offensive?&quot; Let's see, you yourself said, in the comment two above this one:<br /> <br /> :::::&quot;All I did was say what the Bible says about gays, and provided factal evidence to support my claims.&quot;<br /> <br /> :::::That is offensive to gays, because it is anti-homosexual. I'm probably right in assuming your little magic space-man worship book is negative towards gays, meaning it IS offensive. --[[User:BaronVonYiffington|BaronVonYiffington]] 20:32, 21 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == No more white knighting ==<br /> <br /> For anyone tired of Crusadercat editing his own page to white knight and clear his own slate, I have begun an article on Encyclopedia Dramatica about him. Wikifur does not allow linking to ED, so you will have to go to ED and search for &quot;Crusadercat&quot; on your own. If anyone has information that is relevant to what he has done, but does not want to post it here due to fear of any sort, add it to the ED article. I realize that ED isn't exactly the best place to have a civil discussion, but at least we can put information there without having CC blank it. [[User:BaronVonYiffington|BaronVonYiffington]] 06:54, 20 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : for the record, i do not knowing crusader cat. my interest was to cleaning article up and make more factual and less speculation, and practice english grammar in process.<br /> : --[[User:Ayukawataur|Ayukawataur : FurBid-SF Administaur]] 09:50, 20 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: LOL, the banana thing is very funny, when Christians fundamentalists use the banana as a proof of God's creation and being an atheist's nightmare, because of how perfect it is. Obviously those people have not seen a REAL banana. [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/eb/Inside_a_wild-type_banana.jpg Here] is a picture of a real banana as nature has intended. Wild bananas are sad little masses of husk and seeds that would not win any culinary awards. However, they are correct, our bananas didn't evolve, they were created, though their creator is humans. Thousands of years of selective breeding have given us the curved yellow seedless delight. --[[User:Lutriawolfe|Lutriawolfe]] 20:38, 21 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Checking through the history of the talk page, I see that Crusader Cat tried to delete the entire &quot;No more white knighting&quot; category. Why is that? Something on there you want hidden, on a site where you can't put spin on it? --[[User:BaronVonYiffington|BaronVonYiffington]] 20:46, 21 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Double Standards ==<br /> Hey CrusaderCat, may I ask why you reported several dozen pieces for &quot;hate speech&quot; and &quot;anti-christianity&quot;, which led to your banning on FA, but have several anti-atheist pieces in your gallery? I refer of course to things such as: http://crusadercat.deviantart.com/art/The-Atheist-136647204 , where you say being an atheist makes you lack common sense, http://crusadercat.deviantart.com/art/No-atheists-in-fox-holes-137003662 , where you say Atheists don't exist and therefor cannot be soldiers, or http://crusadercat.deviantart.com/art/The-atheist-nightmare-137010787 where you say bananas give Atheists nightmares. Why is it okay for you to report anyone with anti-christian art for &quot;hate speech&quot; when you have anti-atheist hate speech in your own gallery? --[[User:BaronVonYiffington|BaronVonYiffington]] 03:21, 21 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :If people can post anti-Christian crap and get away with it, then I can post anti-atheist stuff and get away with it. --[[Crusader_Cat|Crusader Cat]] 16:22 21 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Really, is that what they teach Christians now a days? Eye for an eye? Two wrongs don't make a right... that's something Jesus would say, right? Just because you can get away with it, doesn't mean you should do it. That is VERY un-Christian-like. --[[User:BaronVonYiffington|BaronVonYiffington]] 20:32, 21 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: is it possible to keep on topic and not degenerate to a religion bashing festival?<br /> ::: thank you.<br /> ::: --[[User:Ayukawataur|Ayukawataur : FurBid-SF Administaur]] 22:40, 21 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::This is on topic and is relating to his banning from FurAffinity. I want to know why he thinks it is okay for him to bash Atheists, but NOT okay for others to bash Christians. It is a legitimate question that pertains to the reports he filed on FurAffinity, which led to his ban. I have said nothing to bash a religion. --[[User:BaronVonYiffington|BaronVonYiffington]] 22:44, 21 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::::But it has nothing to do with WikiFur. Please take your discussions on the merits of criticism elsewhere. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 22:46, 21 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::::It pertains to the article, which mentions his banning. But white knighting is cool too. --[[User:BaronVonYiffington|BaronVonYiffington]] 22:49, 21 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Wait a sec, what's this? You want this guy to take his argument elsewhere because it has &quot;nothing to do with WikiFur&quot;? Hm. For the benefit of those of us who continue to be perplexed by WikiFur's apparently mercurial and contradictory standards, can you explain why it's not okay for some people to use WikiFur as their own personal battleground, but okay for others? What happened to covering &quot;all sides of the argument&quot; (even if that argument has nothing to do with what WikiFur is about)? I'm honestly curious, as the [[Talk:Popping|precedent you've set]] for what is (supposed to be) an encyclopedia of furry fandom continues to baffle me. &amp;mdash;[[User:Xydexx|Xydexx]] 23:26, 21 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::::::I'll admit I haven't followed both the Crusader Cat and Popping debates, maybe there's a perfectly logical distinction that can be distilled out of this. I just wanted to point out that we're not always bound by precedent. Sometimes the admin team has to decide if the end result of any debate would likely result in a benefit to the encyclopedia. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 03:28, 22 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::For the record: I think the inclusion of arguments which a) have no evidence to support them, b) have been written off as trolling attempts by administrators of the message boards they originally appeared on, and c) have nothing to do with furry fandom and anthropomorphic animals, do not belong on WikiFur. Ultimately, there's not much I can do about it, as I'm not an Admin, and the general response I've gotten from Admins when requesting assistance is that I should assume good faith and debate endlessly in order to reach consensus rather than the Admins just [[WikiFur:Speedy_deletion|dealing with it]]. So. One would assume, judging by the glacial pace that the Admins have dealt (read: failed to deal) with the issue thus far, is that importing poorly-sourced arguments which have nothing to do with what WikiFur is about is ''okay'' here, and at the risk of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Don%27t_stuff_beans_up_your_nose stuffing beans up my nose], indicates to me that anyone can insert whatever patent lunacy they like into WikiFur and it will be acceptable under the misguided notion that WikiFur has a duty to tell &quot;all sides&quot; of the story&amp;mdash;even though it isn't appropriate for WikiFur in the first place. &amp;mdash;[[User:Xydexx|Xydexx]] 06:59, 23 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::::I seem to remember [[Talk:Richard Chandler/Archive1#Enough|telling another couple of people]] to take their personal arguments elsewhere. Don't act surprised when I do the same for others. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 03:39, 22 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::Right. I [http://en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Richard_Chandler&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=228881 also] [http://en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Richard_Chandler&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=228999 remember] telling people to take their personal arguments elsewhere, so you can drop the holier-than-thou routine. So what's with the inconsistency, then? ''That's'' the surprising part. Do arguments that have ''nothing to do with WikiFur'' belong here or not? You've yet to clarify this after, what, four months now? And if you're unwilling to take a stand one way or another, don't act surprised when people call you on your inconsistency. If WikiFur needs to cover &quot;all sides of the argument&quot; (as you seem to believe it does WRT Popping), then why the opposition to covering a similar controversy between Christianity and Atheism? &amp;mdash;[[User:Xydexx|Xydexx]] 06:24, 22 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::::::: xydexx - my interpretation of the situation and what i have seen.<br /> ::::::::: greenreaper has answer the question. tl;dr wikifur does each issue on a case by case basis. they know they can not provide a blanket rule for all possible situation. there will all ways be exception and will all time be loop hole. same as there will all time be abuse of the decision that have make. both of decision and of people who make.<br /> ::::::::: also, and this is personal view not wikifur staff view (i am not staff here), what you are doing is not discuss or debate. you are make personal and offensive attack against other person and/or persons faith and hide it with term of question and debate. this issue is not, and never has being about christianity or atheism. it is about a person and their personal interpretation of a faith.<br /> ::::::::: no fight christianity and atheism. this is not a place for that. no try to hide what is obvious and call what is not. it is offensive action and any objective person can see such. his action are his. his choice are his. your action are your. your choice are your. both need to take responsibility and stop try force on other.<br /> ::::::::: --[[User:Ayukawataur|Ayukawataur : FurBid-SF Administaur]] 18:36, 22 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::I think you're misinterpreting my comments; they are not an attack on anyone's faith, but a question of whether WikiFur is an appropriate forum to hash out arguments which have nothing to do with what WikiFur is about. &amp;mdash;[[User:Xydexx|Xydexx]] 20:02, 22 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::::...And another three of the many things that Wikifur is '''not''' is creation of fake/hoax articles, vandal/non-serious edits of articles ([[Forum:Popping (Under revision)]]), and harassment/disrespect of users/editors/Sysops ([[User talk:Wolfkid23]]) [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 20:22, 23 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Exclusion request ==<br /> <br /> Crusader Cat has submitted a request for [[Wikifur:Personal exclusion|personal exclusion]] from Wikifur. Such requests are generally granted unless a good case can be made that it is in the interest of furry fandom that [[WikiFur:Personal information|some of the information be publicized]]. Given the amount of controversy that this article has attracted, we believe the request merits discussion here before a decision is made. Does anyone reading this believe there is sufficient cause that the exclusion request should not be allowed? --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 15:03, 29 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :Where should I start? For starters, he wants to bury his past and play victim. Let's not give him this benefit of an attempt to wipe his severely unstable past history and personal beliefs from a site with the purpose of having information on other furs.<br /> <br /> :The wiki page doesn't include his name, which I believe the article would benefit. He claims people are threatening his his, which is false. I've personally seen on FA discussions where he claims people are threatening him, which they are not. The conversation goes in reference how homosexuals should be hit, killed, or struck, then some person stated,(summary)&quot;Does this mean I can start to punch Christians?&quot; He claims these statements are threats.<br /> <br /> :Crusader Cat was given many chances to correct his own actions, which he did not listen. Instead of dropping it he insisted on enforcing his current behavior. This is what eventually lead to his ban at FA.<br /> <br /> :I should add, his request is timely with his being on front page of Encyclopedia Dramatica. He removed his youtube, dA, and other materials from accounts on the web. IF, and thats a BIG IF, he is quitting the fandom, the page would be okay to remove. However I'd doubt he would be quitting the fandom, from his past behavior I've seen this to be the &quot;bury my past&quot; and not &quot;I'm leaving the fandom.&quot; He simply wants to play victim, which is the result of his own dastardly behavior.<br /> <br /> :When you do not removed his page, he will send you a legal threat, I guarantee it.<br /> :There is not a reason in the world why his page should be removed. --[[User:Insane Kangaroo|Insane Kangaroo]] 16:20, 29 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Don't listed to Insane Kangaroo, he is one of the people on FA who would harass me by making porn of my fursona (which was removed) and was giving out my privet information on Live journal (which was also removed) People have in fact threatened my life, one person on FA who did this a lot is Fuzzy_Wolfy. She said I &quot;Should be shot in the face&quot;. Because of these threats, I have to keep my real name secret to protect my family. I never advocated the harassment or murder of homosexuals, the following people on FA are friends of mine that happen to be gay or bi: Mercifur, lilfurbal, Yiffdakat, FurryWriter. I am still getting harassed on FA by Insane Kangaroo (check the shouts on my page). I have done nothing to warrant this kind of behavior from furries or trolls (then again, not many of us do) I would like this article to be removed for sake of the administrators, I don't want you to go through Hell to protect my honor. This page has become nothing more than a battle ground to destroy my reputation, I will not have defamation on this site. Also, the information on my page in inaccurate, I did not upload a video saying &quot;Being gay is NOT ok&quot; I don't even have an account on that video site. --[[User:Crusader Cat|Crusader Cat]] 12:37 29 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::Crusader, the video is newsworthy and it's being used to in critique. If you try to have it removed, I guarantee someone will post the video along with your real name, fur name, along with other information. Your real name is already on Encyclopedia Dramatica, along with your real picture. Good luck on getting a job with a large employer, especially when they google your name.<br /> <br /> ::I only drew a picture to mock the whole situation, it is your own fault you started to cry wolf and take it farther than you should have taken. Look on FA, Chewfox did not have any issues after she came back. Do you really think people treated you any differently? No. You blew it WAY out of proportion, making it big by yourself.<br /> <br /> ::I haven't harassed you at all, especially on your shouts page. I'm simply keeping the community up to date in regards to what drama you're causing. My point is verified with your post. You are trying to &quot;bury history&quot; over dastardly acts which you've committed in the past.<br /> <br /> ::&quot;Should be shot&quot; is not a threat, sorry. Such a statement is freedom of speech of one's own mind. There is not legally a muster of intent on the part of Fuzzy_Wolfy's statement. Any officer will tell you this, especially when making a police report.<br /> <br /> ::By your own standards Crusader Cat, your preach hate speech which is 'illegal' even though not by today's legal standards. You preach intolerance against homosexuals, which is very impolite and cowardly.<br /> <br /> ::My satire drawings may have been removed from FA, but I hosted them elsewhere. My drawing appears to have been uploaded to Encyclopedia Dramatica. --[[User:Insane Kangaroo|Insane Kangaroo]] 16:55 29 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :Crusader Cat just tried to vandalize his page by blanking most of the content. --[[User:Insane Kangaroo|Insane Kangaroo]] 17:28 29 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Without even addressing the question of whether Crusader Cat actually made the statements, or whether they are being misrepresented or taken out of context, I would ask whether that matters. Being disagreeable or undiplomatic, expressing controversial opinions, or being difficult to work with, are not in themselves reasons to deny a personal exclusion request (and I'm speaking in general terms here, not taking sides on where CC falls on that spectrum). They would have to represent a credible threat to cause physical, emotional, financial or material harm to others, or evidence of having actually done so in the past, to merit denial.<br /> <br /> On Wikifur we generally have a more relaxed sourcing policy than on Wikipedia. However, when it comes to controversial statements or any information that may reflect negatively on a person, the standards for sourcing go way up. Any &quot;negative&quot; statements about CC WILL require external references to back them up. You can argue at length about what CC did or did not say or what he meant, but the official admin response is going to be, &quot;show us the refs&quot;.<br /> <br /> Here's one more acid test on whether to deny personal exclusion: If there were currently no article on Wikifur about CC, do you believe there is enough public &quot;need to know&quot; that you would have cause to create one for that purpose? --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 18:01, 29 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :I agree absolutely with your points. If [[Crusader Cat]] did not exist after all this drama, would it be created? He treaded and continues to tread dangerous waters. Would the removal of [[Alan T. Panda]] be granted if luring a child was not unlawful and he requested removal? We're talking about the topic of taboo and sex.<br /> <br /> :My only reason I believe Crusader Cat should be denied removal equates to him trying to bury his past. I realize he isn't going to be able to bury his past since there are several sources already on the web which happen to be the first hit in google for both his fur name and real name. However, people use wikifur as a means to quickly look up information about a person. Showing through references how crusader cat has treated others is very important for those who may not wish to be subjected to such behavior/statements.<br /> <br /> :People who are curious in regards to the Fur Affinity ban can also look up information on his page. While people may go to ED for the information, many would rather go to a source which is more credible, has references, and is semi-neutral.--[[User:Insane Kangaroo|Insane Kangaroo]] 18:32 29 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Also, I see on your page, http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/User_talk:Mwalimu#Please_remove_my_page, where Crusader Cat made the request. &quot;A flame war of the epic variety has started up. I would like you to remove my page, I don't want you guys getting swamped with trolling. Sorry for any trouble I caused you.&quot; is his exact request. His request appears to be regarding vandalism, though I still believe he is using the incident to bury history. <br /> <br /> :From the aspect of vandalism. Pages shouldn't be removed simply because a person ends up on the front page of ED. It will pass, and something else will be on the front page. This is manageable and many are already +watch'ing his entry to revert vandalism.--[[User:Insane Kangaroo|Insane Kangaroo]] 19:02 29 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I removed most of the stuff on my page because there was no evidence to back any of it up. My real name and my face is being distributed by people who want to harass me (Insane Kangaroo is one of them) and this could cause harm to my family. Please remove this page for protection of my family. Do not trust Insane Kangaroo, he has harassed me on FA and LJ and in both cases, was reprimanded by the administrators, and now he's trying to harass me here. Linking to and ED article about me on my user page after I was banned is NOT keeping anything up to date, especially since you admit that ED is unreliable yourself. it is harassment. I'm not trying to hide my past, I'm trying to protect my loved ones (this includes the admins here. There is not enough info on the web to write an article about me, nothing more than a message on my FA page, which is no ones business anyway. --[[User:Crusader Cat|Crusader Cat]] 12:37 29 September 2009 (UTC)</div>

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