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User:ChuongChoSoi

2008-07-17T13:49:15Z

ChuongChoSoi:

[[Image:Ch%C6%B0%C6%A1ng_Ch%C3%B3_S%C3%B3i.jpg|right]]
*'''Name''': Chương Chó Sói
*'''Gender''': [[Male]]
*'''Species''': [[Wolf]]
*'''Orientation''': Straight
*'''Height''': 192 cm (6'4")
*'''Weight''': 90 kg (198 lb)
*'''Nationality''': Vietnamese
*'''Location''': Svendborg, Denmark
*'''Occupation''': Military Special Operations Unit

File:Steve G the fat wolf by gokutothez.jpg

2008-07-17T03:01:31Z

ChuongChoSoi:

This art is used as a reference in this [[http://furry.wikia.com/wiki/Fat_fur|this article]].

Original link of this artwork: http://gokutothez.deviantart.com/art/Steve-G-the-fat-wolf-21258175

User talk:ChuongChoSoi

2008-07-16T23:02:10Z

ChuongChoSoi: /* Content Concern */

Welcome to [[WikiFur]]! Thank you for registering an account - we look forward to working with you. [[Forum:Help desk|Let us know]] if you need any [[Help:Contents|help]] not already provided. If you would like help creating an article or just editing it, don't hesitate to consult the [[Help:Furry Book of Style|Furry Book of Style]] or just contact an [[WikiFur:Administrator|administrator]]. Have a nice day! :-) I must caution you though, that [[WikiFur:No_personal_attacks|personal attacks]] are not allowed here. Do not make them. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 06:17, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

== Content Concern ==

Hey dude! I have a suggestion that Wiki Fur needs to be kept PG rated as possible since we don't want people offended by nude and yiff images. I have to change an image from one of the articles here. Remember you have furries going to this site from all over the world and we need to respect them as much as we can. [[User:ChuongChoSoi|ChuongChoSoi]] 18:02, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

:Hello Chuong. [[WikiFur:What WikiFur is not#WikiFur is not censored for the protection of minors|WikiFur policy]] (like [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not censored|Wikipedia's policy]]) is that our content may be of any rating because of the variety of topics within the fandom. There are many topics of a mature nature, and some mature elements within other topic. We appreciate that there are differences in morals around the world, but we would rather not censor ourselves just to fit the more restrictive societies.

:Nevertheless, I thank you for changing the picture, not because the original picture was naked, but because I believe it is a better (more accurate) depiction of fat furs. That said, you do not appear to be the copyright holder, so I must ask you - did you obtain permission to use it from the author, [http://gokutothez.deviantart.com/ gokutothez]? If we are not talking about the specific character, it is not fair for us to use it without permission. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 18:22, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

::He said it's fine. [[User:ChuongChoSoi|ChuongChoSoi]] 23:01, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

User talk:ChuongChoSoi

2008-07-16T23:01:51Z

ChuongChoSoi: /* Content Concern */

Welcome to [[WikiFur]]! Thank you for registering an account - we look forward to working with you. [[Forum:Help desk|Let us know]] if you need any [[Help:Contents|help]] not already provided. If you would like help creating an article or just editing it, don't hesitate to consult the [[Help:Furry Book of Style|Furry Book of Style]] or just contact an [[WikiFur:Administrator|administrator]]. Have a nice day! :-) I must caution you though, that [[WikiFur:No_personal_attacks|personal attacks]] are not allowed here. Do not make them. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 06:17, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

== Content Concern ==

Hey dude! I have a suggestion that Wiki Fur needs to be kept PG rated as possible since we don't want people offended by nude and yiff images. I have to change an image from one of the articles here. Remember you have furries going to this site from all over the world and we need to respect them as much as we can. [[User:ChuongChoSoi|ChuongChoSoi]] 18:02, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

:Hello Chuong. [[WikiFur:What WikiFur is not#WikiFur is not censored for the protection of minors|WikiFur policy]] (like [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not censored|Wikipedia's policy]]) is that our content may be of any rating because of the variety of topics within the fandom. There are many topics of a mature nature, and some mature elements within other topic. We appreciate that there are differences in morals around the world, but we would rather not censor ourselves just to fit the more restrictive societies.

:Nevertheless, I thank you for changing the picture, not because the original picture was naked, but because I believe it is a better (more accurate) depiction of fat furs. That said, you do not appear to be the copyright holder, so I must ask you - did you obtain permission to use it from the author, [http://gokutothez.deviantart.com/ gokutothez]? If we are not talking about the specific character, it is not fair for us to use it without permission. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 18:22, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

He said it's fine. [[User:ChuongChoSoi|ChuongChoSoi]] 23:01, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

User talk:GreenReaper

2008-07-13T18:02:33Z

ChuongChoSoi: /* Content Concern */ new section

{{User talk:GreenReaper/Header}}

== [[Sage Nadia]] ==

y'know man, you should really fix sage nadia's article.

I know this site's not known for being a reliable source of neutral point of view, but her article's really off the track. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:70.53.151.146|70.53.151.146]] ([[User talk:70.53.151.146|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/70.53.151.146|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.

thanks and no problem...

-Hydrassas

== What is wrong with Cubist???? ==

Honestly, what is this person's problem? Their retort to my post is baffling to say that least - as if they're on the verge of insanity or something...

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Cubist, Have you ever even considered the the situation might be a result of the "breakdown of diplomacy"? If neither side is willing to lower their sabre, at least part way, things will only continue the way they have been.

Removing his name would not necessarily have to be permanent - whether it remains off the article would be dependant upon Mozdoc's future conduct.

It seems that in this day and age, the only thing being polite and respectful gets a person is ignored, told to f - off, or hit. And THAT is what I believe is going on with Mozdoc - society has kind of taught him the bad habit that unless you are confrontational and ready to resort to force, people will not listen to you.

If we are going to judge Mozdoc on what society as a whole has drummed into him, then we need also judge ourselves.

Do we wish to continue on this downward spiral that civilization is sliding down, or do we wish to TRY to at least slow the degeneration?

All hail VLADUZ - the EBAY IMPALER! 22:14, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Shorter 'Vladuz': "If we don't remove Mozdoc's real name from his Wikifur page, the terrorists win!" Overblown histrionics much, V-boy? I say you're a concern troll, and I say the hell with you. And my vote remains the same. Cubist 11:14, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

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I ask you, is there ANYTHING in my post that could be considered an attack on Cubist? And do you know of any reason why Cubist would choose to launch an attack upon me?

[[User:AnthroSamurai|All hail VLADUZ - the EBAY IMPALER!]] 17:31, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

:The simplest conclusion is that he is being honest - that the reason for his assertion is he believes you to be a [[Wikipedia:Internet troll#Concern troll|concern troll]]. I don't see any reason to suggest that he is implying that you made an attack on him - just that he strongly disagrees with you and suspects your motives. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 18:03, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

QUOTE CUBIST: '''Shorter 'Vladuz': "If we don't remove Mozdoc's real name from his Wikifur page, the terrorists win!" Overblown histrionics much, V-boy?'''

[[User:AnthroSamurai|All hail VLADUZ - the EBAY IMPALER!]] 18:06, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

:Right. He believes that your statements are overblown histronics. The form of his expression might be considered an attack on you, but does not imply that he felt that you attacked ''him'', as you said. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 18:08, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

"A concern troll is a false flag pseudonym created by a user whose point of view is opposed to the one that the user's sockpuppet claims to hold. The concern troll posts in web forums devoted to its declared point of view and attempts to sway the group's actions or opinions while claiming to share their goals, but with professed "concerns". The goal is to sow fear, uncertainty and doubt within the group."

Excuse me a moment... (Falls out of chair laughing).

Ok, so let me get this straight - because I am TRYING to to get both sides to stand down to some degree, Cubist is claiming that I am Mozdoc using a second account???? Oh good lord, not ANOTHER person like "triple W" :)) Why is it anytime someone doesn't agree, they have to claim that the person they disagree with is a "sock"???? That is really pathetic, do you not think?

[[User:AnthroSamurai|All hail VLADUZ - the EBAY IMPALER!]] 18:14, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

:No, that is not the meaning of the term. He appears to believe that you do not actually support the same goals as the wiki, but are trying to subvert them by pretending that you do. For example, if giving people fair treatment was one of the goals of the wiki you might express concerns that Mozdoc is not getting fair treatment, thereby hoping to elicit sympathy from those who would otherwise have a neutral or negative opinion. The trouble with making such assertions is that people's motives are unknown to us without some external form of confirmation, therefore they are hard to prove or disprove. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 18:31, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

The method Cubist used to do it is SO childish, it makes me wonder if I should just put him/her over me knee and spank him/her. :))

Mozdoc needs to learn to control his temper - I can sympathize with that. I also know how most of society can literally drive people like Mozdoc to such actions.

By only using punishment against him, we only further reinforce his behavior. That's not to say we should just give in and remove it to stop threats - just the opposite. HOWEVER, If it is removed, and you and the others make it CLEARLY known that
1 - it CAN be added in again should the threats resume.
2 - that it is being done for fairness sake.

I believe it will have a greater positive impact not only on the conflict but upon Mozdoc himself.

By the way, kindly take a look at my user page ;) :))
That should (hopefully) show we are two different peole - Mozdoc tends to simply open fire, wjile I tend to toy with those who make such pathetic attacks.

[[User:AnthroSamurai|So I am a SOCK?? WHY am I always the last to know these things? :))]] 18:55, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

:As far as I know, the only person who has brought up the concept of you being the same person as Mozdoc is you. The assertions made by Cubist relate to the pursuit of similar goals while professing neutrality, not similar identity.

:I am unsure how much any of us can help Mozdoc. I've talked to him on several occasions and made no long-term progress. The whole reason the page is here in the first place is that counseling hasn't worked to stop the harassment of others in the fandom. As I understand it, its purpose isn't to coerce the subject into good behaviour (because punishment doesn't work), but to ameliorate the effects of his bad behaviour on others. The question is whether or not the real name is a requirement for this. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 19:31, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

== Content Concern ==

Hey dude! I have a suggestion that Wiki Fur needs to be kept PG rated as possible since we don't want people offended by nude and yiff images. I have to change an image from one of the articles here. Remember you have furries going to this site from all over the world and we need to respect them as much as we can. [[User:ChuongChoSoi|ChuongChoSoi]] 18:02, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Adipophilia

2008-07-13T04:44:56Z

ChuongChoSoi: /* Image Change */

=== Removed minor political slant ===

I changed the phrase "overweight or obese" to simply "fat" in the two places where it occurs. "Overweight" implies two things: a deviation from the norm (which it usually isn't -- the stastical norm is higher than most Americans think), and an error in being. It's like referring to dark-skinned people as "Underwhite". "Obese" is a medical term of pathology. Even if you reject the idea that these words are negative, they *are* different from "fat".

I'm also not sure this article should deal so specifically with fetishism. That seems like the world's general treatment of furs... but I'm not an active part of the community, so I'll leave it to those who are to decide whether it's accurate.

Great pic, BTW! :) --[[User:Tomhowling|Tom Howling]] 16:04, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

== Image Change ==

I have to change the image because I personally find it offensive to many viewers. I think Wiki Fur should be kept PG rated as possible. [[User:ChuongChoSoi|ChuongChoSoi]] 04:44, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Adipophilia

2008-07-13T04:44:25Z

ChuongChoSoi: /* Image Change */

=== Removed minor political slant ===

I changed the phrase "overweight or obese" to simply "fat" in the two places where it occurs. "Overweight" implies two things: a deviation from the norm (which it usually isn't -- the stastical norm is higher than most Americans think), and an error in being. It's like referring to dark-skinned people as "Underwhite". "Obese" is a medical term of pathology. Even if you reject the idea that these words are negative, they *are* different from "fat".

I'm also not sure this article should deal so specifically with fetishism. That seems like the world's general treatment of furs... but I'm not an active part of the community, so I'll leave it to those who are to decide whether it's accurate.

Great pic, BTW! :) --[[User:Tomhowling|Tom Howling]] 16:04, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

== Image Change ==

I have to change the image because I personally find it offensive to many viewers. I think Wiki Fur should be kept as PG rated as possible. [[User:ChuongChoSoi|ChuongChoSoi]] 04:44, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Adipophilia

2008-07-13T04:44:12Z

ChuongChoSoi: /* Image Change */ new section

Adipophilia

2008-07-13T04:43:10Z

ChuongChoSoi:

:''This article is about the fetish. For the mailing list of the same name, see [[Fat Furs]].''

{{unreferenced}}
[[Image:Steve_G_the_fat_wolf_by_gokutothez.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Steve G, a typical fat furry.]]
'''Lipophilia''' in the furry community refers to the interest/sexual fetish in which a person fantasizes about gaining weight, or causing others to gain weight; or about being fat or being around others who are fat. Many lipophiles prefer the term '''fat furs''' and are either [[anthropomorphic]] [[furry]] [[character]]s who are fat, and/or may be members of the [[furry fandom]] who are fat in real-life.

Unlike other related [[:Category:Paraphilias|paraphilias]] such as [[inflatophilia]] or [[vorarephilia]], lipophilia can be and is sometimes played with [[Wikipedia:Fat fetishism|outside of the furry community]], but most fat furs prefer to take advantage of online roleplaying rather than rely on actual weight gain to fulfill their fantasies.

While most roleplays revolve around giving tummy-scritches to feel how soft a friend's tummy is getting, or one fur snuggling into the bulk of another heavier fur, some roleplayers prefer a more proactive stance on fatness.

These roleplays can include, but certainly aren't limited to, consensual or non-consenual (forced) stuffing/feeding (where one character cooks for and feeds another character), snug or ripped clothing (due to weight gain), gluttony and unintentional weightgain (characters eating more than they should without seeming to notice or realize), loss of muscularity and fitness (due to excessive lazing around during an off season), or teasing (one character making fun of another character's weight gain or the limitations imposed upon them by gaining weight).

==See also==
*[[Zaftig]]

[[Category:Paraphilias]]

File:Steve G the fat wolf by gokutothez.jpg

2008-07-13T04:42:15Z

ChuongChoSoi: This art is used as a reference in this article. Original link of this artwork: http://gokutothez.deviantart.com/art/Steve-G-the-fat-wolf-21258175

This art is used as a reference in [[http://furry.wikia.com/wiki/Fat_fur|this article]].

Original link of this artwork: http://gokutothez.deviantart.com/art/Steve-G-the-fat-wolf-21258175

User talk:Dalhusky

2008-07-12T00:07:31Z

ChuongChoSoi:

Hi there, and welcome to WikiFur! Several contributors [[User talk:Dalhusky/Furry irony|noticed your recent edit]] - I agreeed with them that it did seem more of a personal commentary than an public article with a defined topic, and the topic seemed kinda vague, so I moved it [[User:Dalhusky/Furry irony|here]] (it's also linked on your [[User:Dalhusky|user page]]). Do [[User talk:GreenReaper|let me know]] if you disagree, or have any questions. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 04:31, 17 Nov 2005 (UTC)

== Hey Derek Hermans! ==

You're a freak! Furries hate you, I hate you, the whole FUCKING WORLD hates you! YOU FUCK DOGS! You give furries a bad name! You only use freedom for yourself! I hope you get sent to an asylum so you don't rape huskies! You don't even belong here on wikifur since all you care is all about the FUCK AND YIFF!

encyclopediareality.wiki-site.com/dalhusky

www.dalhusky.com

YOU ARE SICK! YOU GIVE FURRIES A BAD NAME! [[User:ChuongChoSoi|ChuongChoSoi]] 00:07, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

2008-01-26T18:42:08Z

ChuongChoSoi:

{{welcome}}--[[User:KendricksRedtail|Kendricks Redtail]] 03:06, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

I read an article about you here on wikifur. I just wanted to say that you're not only an inspiration on Second Life but also an inspiration to the rest of the furries around the world.
[[User:ChuongChoSoi|ChuongChoSoi]] 18:42, 26 January 2008 (UTC)