WikiFur - User contributions [en]

Chaotikat

2008-07-05T21:41:59Z

Chaotikat:

:{{redirect|Spoo|the comic book anthology of similar name|Spooo Presents}}

[[Image:Leoki.jpg|left|thumb|154px|A sample of Chaotikat's work.]]
'''Chaotikat''' is a [[furry]] artist, specialized in [[fat furs]]. Most of her work features nudity and erotica. Most recently she has been focusing on digital art, which was received well by the furry community.

Her most well known characters are [[Spoo]] and [[Milena]].

== External links ==
{{Contributor}}
* [http://chaotikat.furtopia.org/ Chaotikat Graphics website]
* [http://us.vclart.net/vcl/Artists/Chaotikat/ Chaotikat] at [[VCL]]
* [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/chaotikat/ Chaotikat] at [[FurAffinity]]

[[Category:People]]
[[Category:Artists]]
[[Category:Cat characters]]

File:Leoki.jpg

2008-07-05T21:40:50Z

Chaotikat: A sample of Chaotikat's work.

== Summary ==
A sample of Chaotikat's work.
== Licensing ==
{{fursona}}

Chaotikat

2008-07-05T21:34:52Z

Chaotikat:

:{{redirect|Spoo|the comic book anthology of similar name|Spooo Presents}}

[[Image:spoosheet.jpg|thumb|right|Chaotikat's [[fursona]].]]
'''Chaotikat''' is a [[furry]] artist, specialized in [[fat furs]]. Most of her work features nudity and erotica. Most recently she has been focusing on digital art, which was received well by the furry community.

Her most well known characters are [[Spoo]] and [[Milena]].

== External links ==
{{Contributor}}
* [http://chaotikat.furtopia.org/ Chaotikat Graphics website]
* [http://us.vclart.net/vcl/Artists/Chaotikat/ Chaotikat] at [[VCL]]
* [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/chaotikat/ Chaotikat] at [[FurAffinity]]

[[Category:People]]
[[Category:Artists]]
[[Category:Cat characters]]

Chaotikat

2008-07-05T21:34:23Z

Chaotikat:

:{{redirect|Spoo|the comic book anthology of similar name|Spooo Presents}}

[[Image:spoosheet.jpg|thumb|right|Chaotikat's [[fursona]].]]
'''Chaotikat''' is a [[furry]] artist, specialized in [[fat furs]]. Most of her work features nudity and erotica. Most recently she has been focusing on digital art, which was received well by the furry community.

Her most well known characters are:
[[Spoo]]
[[Milena]]

== External links ==
{{Contributor}}
* [http://chaotikat.furtopia.org/ Chaotikat Graphics website]
* [http://us.vclart.net/vcl/Artists/Chaotikat/ Chaotikat] at [[VCL]]
* [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/chaotikat/ Chaotikat] at [[FurAffinity]]

[[Category:People]]
[[Category:Artists]]
[[Category:Cat characters]]

Chaotikat

2008-07-05T21:28:18Z

Chaotikat: /* External links */

:{{redirect|Spoo|the comic book anthology of similar name|Spooo Presents}}

[[Image:spoosheet.jpg|thumb|right|Chaotikat's [[fursona]].]]
'''Chaotikat''' is a budding [[furry]] artist, with a strong interest in [[fat furs]]. Her main character, and [[fursona]], is '''Spoo''', a strong-willed, wild and curvacious tabby [[cat]]. Other characters include [[Leikora]], a shy brown [[bear]], [[Sabirae]], a pink potbellied [[pig]], and [[Jornie]] who is a [[dwarf fur]] vixen.

== External links ==
{{Contributor}}
* [http://chaotikat.furtopia.org/ Chaotikat Graphics website]
* [http://us.vclart.net/vcl/Artists/Chaotikat/ Chaotikat] at [[VCL]]
* [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/chaotikat/ Chaotikat] at [[FurAffinity]]

[[Category:People]]
[[Category:Artists]]
[[Category:Cat characters]]

Furrabian Nights (Furcadia)

2006-05-13T21:10:55Z

Chaotikat:

[[Image:Censor_MA.png|right]]
'''Furrabian Nights''' (commonly '''FurN''') is a main map in [[Furcadia]]. A gathering place for almost exclusively erotic-themed [[dreams]], this map is [[Wikipedia:MPAA film rating system|rated]] R, although the dreams inside it frequently exceed an R rating. It is seen as unwise for visitors to Furrabian Nights to suggest that they may not be of age.

When entering Furrabian Nights, the following message will be displayed to the player: * Welcome to Furrabian Nights, a place of exotic delights. This is an R rated area. Children under 16, or anyone playing a character under 16, are not allowed here. If you are between 16 and 18 years old and you don't have your parents' permission to be here, please leave now. Any wishing to engage in behavior going beyond an R rating, please upload a dream and keep it private out of consideration to others. Use F3 to move between multiple points around the dream. (Dream by [[Kee En'Darvin]], [[Talzhemir]], [[Gar]], and [[Emerald Flame]])

FurN is also a world of cliques, the main ones are: [[FurN Cafe]], [[the FurN fires]] and [[the Road block]]. Usually these three groups keep themselves separated and it may be hard for a new player to get accepted. Especially [[the FurN fires]] can be a hostile place to [[newbies]]. For those not interested in cliques and the drama that comes with it, the [[dreams]] cater to any fetish imaginable, although [[BDSM]] themed [[dreams]] seem most common.

== See also ==

* [[The Blue Leopard bar]]
* [[The Slave Chambers]]
* [[The Golden Tether]]

{{stub}}

[[Category:Furcadia locations]]

User talk:Chaotikat

2006-05-13T20:52:32Z

Chaotikat: /* Art bounty */

Hi there, Chaotikat, and welcome to WikiFur! Thanks for your contribution to the [[fat furs]] page - I've formatted it to make it fit in better with the page. [[User talk:GreenReaper|Let me know]] if you need any [[help]] not already provided. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 05:09, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

:Thank you for fixing my first upload :D I just joined and I'm still trying to get used to it all. I hope I atleast put THIS post in the correct place.

::'''*grins*''' - yep, you just need to sign it! You can use <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> to do that (or <nowiki>~~~</nowiki> if you don't want to put the date). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 05:15, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

==Art bounty==

I gather that you're claiming [[:Image:Sabirae3.jpg]] for [[Pig]] and [[:Image:Lei.jpg]] for [[Fat furs]]. Just one thing I'd like to take care of first. There's a [[User_talk:Rat#Article_Illustrations|discussion]] on my talk page about what licenses would be acceptable to the WikiFur community. You could release it under public domain; you could write your conditions in plain English ie. "I give permission for this image to be copied and used as long as credit is given to me as the author", or use could use an known license like Creative Commons [http://creativecommons.org/] or GFDL [http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/fdl.html]. These are just examples; as long as permission to use the image is explicitly stated, I'm good with that. To do that, go to the image page, ie. [[:Image:Sabirae3.jpg]] and [[:Image:Lei.jpg]], click "edit this page" at the top, and write down your terms of use.

--[[User:Rat|Rat]] 06:36, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Alright, it should be fixed now, I think I caught the wiki bug *laughs* I actually enjoy reading all the articles and adding to it. Slowly but surely I'm starting to learn my way around. Thank you for introducing people to Wikifur, it has proven to be effective it seems.

[[User:Chaotikat|Chaotikat]] 20:30, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

:Ok, I owe you 20 Canadian now. Contact me at your convenience to discuss your payment. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 20:32, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Is there a more private way to send you my information? Email? PM?

[[User:Chaotikat|Chaotikat]] 20:52, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

User:Chaotikat

2006-05-13T20:48:32Z

Chaotikat:

[[Image:spoosheet.jpg|thumb|right|Chaotikat's [[fursona]] ]]
'''Chaotikat''' is a budding [[furry]] artist, with a strong interest in [[fat furs]]. Her main character and fursona is [[Spoo]], a strong-willed, wild and curvacious tabby, who is usually up to no good. Other characters include [[Leikora]], a shy [[brown bear]], [[Sabirae]], a pink potbellied [[pig]] and [[Jornie]] who is a [[dwarf fur]] vixen.

[[Category:People]]
[[Category:Artists]]

User:Chaotikat

2006-05-13T20:48:15Z

Chaotikat:

[[Image:spoosheet.jpg|thumb|right|Chaotikat's [[fursona]]
'''Chaotikat''' is a budding [[furry]] artist, with a strong interest in [[fat furs]]. Her main character and fursona is [[Spoo]], a strong-willed, wild and curvacious tabby, who is usually up to no good. Other characters include [[Leikora]], a shy [[brown bear]], [[Sabirae]], a pink potbellied [[pig]] and [[Jornie]] who is a [[dwarf fur]] vixen.

[[Category:People]]
[[Category:Artists]]

File:Spoosheet.jpg

2006-05-13T20:47:44Z

Chaotikat:

I give permission for this image to be copied and used as long as credit is given to me as the author

File:Spoosheet.jpg

2006-05-13T20:47:35Z

Chaotikat:

User talk:Chaotikat

2006-05-13T20:30:59Z

Chaotikat: /* Art bounty */

File:Lei.jpg

2006-05-13T20:22:48Z

Chaotikat:

I give permission for this image to be copied and used as long as credit is given to me as the author

File:Sabirae3.jpg

2006-05-13T20:22:21Z

Chaotikat:

I give permission for this image to be copied and used as long as credit is given to me as the author

Pig

2006-05-13T05:33:51Z

Chaotikat:

[[Image:Sabirae3.jpg|right|thumb|150px|[[Sabirae]], one of few pig characters in the fandom]]
Technically, a '''pig''' is the young of a domestic swine, or of any swine (family Suidae). The term is also commonly used to refer to any swine, which, as their appearance as well as some of their behaviors are considered by many to be unsavory, can have literal and figurative meanings. As a result, you see very few pig characters in the [[furry fandom]].

In reality, not all pigs are fat, but because the domestic breeds are traditionally raised for meat, this is the most well-known stereotype. There are also breeds of pig kept for pets.

The Disney character [[Pumbaa]], a warthog, had a pet peeve about being called a pig. He insisted, "That's ''Mr.'' Pig to you!"

[[Category:Species]]

File:Sabirae3.jpg

2006-05-13T05:32:12Z

Chaotikat:

User talk:GreenReaper

2006-05-13T05:12:20Z

Chaotikat: Thank you

{{User talk:GreenReaper/Header}}

== Hi, GreenReaper ==

This is partly a test to see if I've got this editor figured out before I do anything important with it. I notice someone put in an entry for yours truly (in fact that's how I wandered in - I was checking old Other Suns links which led to Nicolai's entry which led to mine) which I may update later; at least I suppose the fact that I was Den Mother of ConFurence for years and am now holding that position in CaliFur is at interesting as anything already there. Also an excuse for putting in a few Ursa Major links inasmuch as I maintain the Recommended List.

Speaking of which, I got your note suggesting the addition of WikiFur to the Recommended Anthropomorphics list for this year - makes sense, though I'll have to discuss where to put it with the rest of the committee. We're currently counting nominations for this year's Ursa Major ballot.
--[[User:Yealurowluro|Yealurowluro]] 00:58, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

:Glad you got my note! I wasn't entirely sure if I should suggest it myself, but I figured it's something that's worth reading. :-)

:It looks like you have the wiki editing figured out. Please do contribute to any articles you find lacking, and good luck figuring out those nominations. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 21:04, 5 April 2006 (PDT)

== Moving assistance. ==

Hey GreenReaper,

Thanks for the help moving the page for my listing. I was woundering if it should have been moved over as you did, but didn't have time IRL to send a message. The dire warning kinda steared me off. (I figured I would mess around with my own page before messing up some one elses =)

:No problem! A lot of people start off in the User: namespace, as that's where you would normally do it on (e.g.) Wikipedia.

Let me know if I'm misplacing anyother articles so we can keep the database as consistant as possable! (Or if you have any other suggestions)

:I'm sure I or another contributor will let you know should that be the case. :-)

I hope the format of the post is accaptable. I wrote the thing in third person as if I was writing about someone else. Thanks again - PG

:That was fine. Feel free to edit your User: page if you want to say something from first-person persepective in addition to that which is already there (but don't feel you have to - most people are just fine with what's on the page about them already). --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 03:02, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Thank you for the kind welcome. Though I've been active on Wikipedia forever (and I'm admin there), I've only just discovered wikifur today. I'm happy to help out in any area that needs it, and I've already added stubs for [[Wild Life]] and [[Wildlifers]]! [[User:Starblind|Andrew Lenahan]] - Starblind 15:43, 7 April 2006 (PDT)

:Excellent . . . *scoops up some cover pics for those* --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 23:27, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

==View counts==
I've noticed that the view counts in [[:Special:Popularpages]] have not updated at least since last Thursday on several articles I've been following, even though I've viewed some of those articles myself during that time. I've verified this from two different computers and used a couple of other tricks to make reasonably certain it's not a browser cache issue. What gives?

Edit: There are also several hundred articles that currently show 0 views.
--[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 14:23, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

:Yes. I had a chat with the admins and apparently they had to discontinue popular pages updating due to server loads. We can get the same sort of information from the google analytics stats, so it's no ''great'' loss, although it is a pity that people can't access that without talking to me first.

:As this makes the page rather useless, I've removed the link in the main page header and added in links to the article and user talk pages instead. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 16:29, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

== Re my WikiFur entry ==

Just noticed that you had stuck in an unwritten link from the Kay Shapero entry for the Anthropomorphic Literature and Arts Association. I had deliberately NOT put a link there, because the ALAA exists to produce the Recommended List and present the Ursa Major awards, both of which have links right after the reference. So I figured it would be superfluous. What do you think? I could probably write an entry, but it'd only be a couple of lines long and probably wouldn't contain much you can't find out from the other two links. --[[User:Yealurowluro|Yealurowluro]]

:(I'm not GR, but we never have a shortage of opinions around here! :-) Actually, even the small amount of information you mention would be useful, if only to define the parametes of the organization and to show that it is independent of any other organization out there (when I first saw mention of ALAA, I erroneously conflated it with [[AAE]], which is a different beastie entirely). ----[[User:DuncanDaHusky|DuncanDaHusky]]([[User talk:DuncanDaHusky|talk]]) 00:28, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

:That's basically why I put it in there (also because I rememebered it was linked in [[Ursa Major Awards]]). If you really don't think it should have an entry, take it out, but as Duncan mentions, [[Anthropomorphic Arts and Education]] seems to do well enough. It's a short page, but it gives a link to the organization, and as it is a separate page it can be put into [[:Category:Organizations]] which helps us keep a tab on all such organizations. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 03:19, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

==To Stub or Not to Stub?==
Is there a guideline as to when a short article (which just doesn't have much to say) doesn't need to be tagged as a stub? 1000 bytes, etc.? Wouldn't stop anyone from dropping in to make changes anyway. Just curious. --[[User:Frizzy|Frizzy]] 23:11, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

:I usually go by the rule of whether I feel there's anything that ought to be added (but that I'm not sure about or don't know or don't feel like putting in right now). -- [[User:Siege|Siege]]([[User talk:Siege|talk]]) 05:02, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

:The general rule is "if there is probably something that could be added fairly easily by someone who doesn't know much about the topic" (say with a few minutes of google searching) then it is a stub. If not, then it is not a stub, although if you can describe it entirely in a couple of lines, it is probably a strong candidate for merging with another article. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 08:04, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

==Categorization?==
Thanks for the quick feedback! I was looking through WikiFur's [[:Help:Furry_Book_of_Style|style guide]] and had another question: Are there any guidelines on category order at the end of articles? I was going through alphabetically, but it might be helpful to define this in the style guide if there's a prefered order to doing this. --[[User:Frizzy|Frizzy]] 19:10, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

:Technically any order is fine. In practice, for articles about people I've tended to do People and then subcategories of People (note that we only do this category + subcategory thing with people so as to get a full listing in that category), and then their location and year of birth/death. In general I would put the most important or relevant category first, but that's just a personal style. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 20:44, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

::What you describe is what I've been doing, GreenReaper. I described it in some detail over at [[:Category_talk:Root]]. -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 21:37, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

== Requesting page protection ==

How do I go about requesting my page to be locked so that only myself and administrators can edit it? --[[Banrai|Banrai]]

:You just did. I'm at work right now so I can't really look that closely to ensure it's appropriate, but I will later this evening.

:Be aware that "your page" is [[User:Banrai]]. [[Banrai]] is "the page about you". As such it is expected to be reasonably complete, and I do find it odd that there is no mention or reference to the actions mentioned in a certain LiveJournal entry that comes up when searching for your name. What's past is past, and it is important not to dwell on it, but it does deserve recording so that people understand how things ended up as they are today (and so we don't get complaints on the talk page from people who think things are being hidden). I will try and see about that tonight as well. I'm not a concerned party other than ensuring the accuracy of the article, and I don't particularly want to raise any drama about it, so fear not - it'll be brief.

:Oh, and just something I noticed glancing over the page - you only need to link to other articles the ''first'' time a linkable name comes up, not every time. It's assumed that people will already have clicked on the link if they want to go to it. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 15:04, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

::I added a small blurb about... that. But feel free to edit it as you see fit. It's a very personal preferance that the article itself not actually be linked, since it IS over and done, but.. yeah, you're the mod. I also went back in and fixed the massive-linking, so it looks a little cleaner now. ;3 --[[User:Banrai|Banrai]]

:::I've not linked it. Instead, I spent a while reading various sources, then tried to give a summary of your actions, the context behind them - part of which was already evident in previous sections - and the response from others, without turning it into a duplicate of that post (or another [[Sibe]]). I think it says all that needs to be said about that without taking up too much of the article. If people really want to know more, I'm sure they can find out for themselves - but I suspect for most it is enough that they will not feel the need to do so.

:::As for your request, the article seems a good one as it stands. I will post a notice on the talk page, and unless there is significant dissent from the WikiFur community I will enable the page protection within a day or so. If at a later point you decide that you no longer want the page protected then any admin can help you remove it at request. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 06:35, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

== Repeated vandalism and blocking ==

I've just blocked an IP for what I now see is repeated vandalism. ([http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:70.180.173.165 Three incidents so far].)
Do we have an understood point where we block for longer periods, or infinitely? -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 03:20, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

:I would say go up by one category per repeated offense - hours, days, weeks, months, years (or forever). If all they do is vandalism feel free to skip a step. We're not Wikipedia, we've not really got time to deal with trouble again and again. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 03:32, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Vandal IPs found

69.210.142.84 and
68.202.53.196
They were found posting images of the vandalism in /b/

== Questions about Des Lee? ==

Hey there! Thought I'd drop a line and see if I could answer any questions you might have about Desiree. I set up a basic entry for her awhile ago, but I'd noticed you had a question or two concerning her on my page. Anyway, if I can be of assistance, let me know! Thanks!

:Note [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Jim_Hardiman&curid=3935&diff=53558&oldid=50672 my recent edit] and comment on the [[Talk:Jim Hardiman|talk page]], but I'll carry over here and say that I think the question was about those quote-marks around "friend". -- [[User:Siege|Siege]]([[User talk:Siege|talk]]) 20:30, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

:Yep, replied on the talk page. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 21:24, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

== Edit patrols ==

It's about this time that I think bringing back the "patrol this edit" marker may be a good idea. It just has to be explained clearly: "These markers are for admin to make rounds of patrols through the various edits," and so forth. I'd also like to suggest a proxy banlist which is shared across Wikia. That way, once a proxy is confirmed, all wikis have the option of automatically banning it. -- [[User:Siege|Siege]]([[User talk:Siege|talk]]) 06:24, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
:I would support the creation of a shared proxy banlist with all of Wikia. Is there a feature for this currently in mediawiki or would it have to be added through some sort of module? -- [[User:DeVandalizer|DeVandalizer]] 06:33, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

:This might be a good idea. We are getting a lot of edits - certainly more than I manage to have the time to look at, let alone edit. We can probably try enabling it for a time.

:I think there is actually a proxy blacklist. We may be using a service, in which case it probably doesn't get everything. JasonR on the live chat would be the perosn to talk to about that (or he's available via technical at wikia dot com, or the wikia-l mailing list, or the wikia LiveJournal). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 08:12, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

== Thanks for the Welcome! ==

I was figuring it would come at some point or another. Very much appreciated. :) [[User:Bastique|Bastique]] 13:00, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

== Database error on page move ==

I was attempting to move [[Art Show]] over its redirect [[Art show]] (note the caps - one is the name of a show, the other is a type), and I received this error:

:A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:
::<tt>UPDATE `wikicities`.`gpage` SET page_namespace = '0',page_title = 'Art_show' WHERE page_namespace = '0' AND page_title = 'Art_Show'</tt>
:from within function "<tt>Database::update</tt>". MySQL returned error "<tt>1062: Duplicate entry 'furry-0-Art_show' for key 2 (paris.wikia.com)</tt>".

Would you mind passing this on to the Wikia folks? Looks like the parser is missing the routine which checks for a page/redirect/whatever under the name being moved to. Thanks. -- [[User:Siege|Siege]]([[User talk:Siege|talk]]) 10:13, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

== Hi Back. ==

This is a bit awkward, but I think this is the right way to do it. I'm looking over a variety of articles to see what I can add to. I lengthened Ken Fletcher's piece a little -- he deserves more, but it's hard to do him justice, even knowing him fairly well. (Ken is modest to the point of humility.) Kevin Duane's piece broke me up. I could add 10,000 words, but wouldn't know where to start. And do I want to make him out a clown, a villain, a well-intentioned schlemiel, or just a guy who got a lot of bad breaks? Then there was Steve Martin. Another perplexing case. I had to add a bit more detail to the "controversy" section, that put the customs debacle in a somewhat better light.

Ah... I wonder what other delights await? --[[User:Taral Wayne|Taral Wayne]]

:It can be hard. Pages [[Sibe|can and have]] been written about [[Banrai#Past disputes|past disputes]], but in the end the actual situation can usually be boiled down to just a few paragraphs written in a fairly dry tone. If in doubt, just add the facts, and try to make sure you don't leave out any facts in a way that could be viewed as biased by not giving reasonable coverage of all sides of the story. If you think you're up to writing a more lengthy piece, and you think it is appropriate for the article concerned, [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Be bold in updating pages|be bold]] and do so. Wikipedia has [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Neutrality|lots of advice]] on how to go about this.

:Whatever you do decide to add, thank you for taking the time to do so. WikiFur relies on the contributions of those who know the full history of events, and in many cases there are only a few people in the world who do. Hopefully this project will go some way towards ensuring that the history of the fandom doesn't fade away, as I think that would be a shame.

:Oh, and note that you can sign comments on talk pages with <nowiki>~~~~, or just ~~~</nowiki> if you want to do it without the date. There's no need to do so on the main article pages, as they're intended to be community work anyway (and a full history of contributions is kept in the history tab if it's required). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 10:02, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

::I think I'll just leave the Kevin Duane item as it is. While there's a hundred times more, it isn't really that important, and what's there is probably impartial enough. Though I doubt very much Kevin would own up to much on the negative side of the ledger.

::By the way, what would keep him from editing out everything he didn't like, and painting a glowing picture of himself?

:::Nothing. However, he'd probably find such edits mysteriously changed back a few minutes later. Some people around here tend to watch [[Special:Recentchanges|recent changes]] like a hawk and can very quickly pick up on editors who are trying to modify history, especially their own. There are [[WikiFur:Personal information|established procedures]] for requesting the removal of certain items of personal information. Blanking or removing information without comment do not count, and won't have the desired effect. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 10:20, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

== Hello ==

Hi, thanks for the welcome! I just have to say that I'm very impressed by the speed at which the articles are updated :)

--[[User:MrZebra|MrZebra]] 10:16, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

:Glad you like it! We aim to please. ;-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 10:20, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

== Thanks for the assistance ==

Thank you for loading a higher-resolution picture for me. I appreciate that. And thanks for the welcome as well. :)

--[[Equestrian]]

== Asking your permission ==

Would it be okay with you to upload [http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/Image:Taxidermy.gif this image] to wikifur? It is an animated gif of scenes from the CSI furry episode. It's 1.8MB so I'm obviously not going to risk spending the long time uploading it if it gets deleted and I'm hoping somebody else will do it. If that is not acceptable, would a link to it in the CSI article be allowed? There's no pressure if you don't agree with these. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 05:43, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:I probably wouldn't delete it. It is not the best pictoral representation of the whole show, though. The animation tells a story, but it is not the whole story about the show, just as the show does not tell the whole story about the fandom. Its [http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/Taxidermy purpose on ED] was to promote [[fursecution]] (to whit, the conversion of furries into trophies and rugs) and the selection of passages in the animation is limited to those supporting that argument. I believe that a small selection of screen captures from various points in the show added by use of the <nowiki><gallery></nowiki> tag (see [[The Forest]] for an example) might be a better addition to the article.

:Another thing to consider - if it takes you a long time to upload it, it will take a long time for many of our contributors to download it as well. 2Mb pages are not really a good idea. This suggests that a link to the animation would be more appropriate, with a note of the file size for those on modems. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 07:54, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

::About size, I see so many websites designed where the only way you can view them is flash. I don't know what the deal with that. The real size getter is YTMNDs where each one is huge and often a copy of several other ones with just a tiny change. You know you're actually a pretty cool person (and probably same for others here) compared to the wikipedia furry community where any mention of furries that isn't in their "furries never yiff, or dress in custumes more than bunny ears, and all furries are heterosexual, and there are the same number of male and female furries" propoganda means a witchhunt and I think it's one of the reasons why encyclopedia dramatica has all the anti-furry stuff--and the site says somewhere it's the denial of some furry aspects that get them made fun of----that can be compared to how the site doesn't make fun of star wars / star trek nerds with more than a small amount. [[User:SleepAtWork|SleepAtWork]] 10:51, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:::Flash is not the most ideal system for web user interfaces (although it does have enviable compatability compared to things like JavaScript). I won't go so far as to say that Flash has no place. It is a good system for the delivery of multimedia content. We tend to link to that rather than host it, though. :-)

:::It is true that people are sometimes overly defensive. However, at the same time, some have good reason - there [http://forums.hatersonline.com/viewtopic.php?t=164 really are] "furry haters" for which it is a hobby to just go out there and spread the message that furries suck. Most of them don't actually ''know'' anything about the fandom, participate in any of the events, or contribute anything - they're just having fun putting other people down. I'm more than willing to accept criticism from people like [[Nothingkat]], who at least knows what he's talking about. And . . . well, I've not heard people make the above assertions before. I'm sure a lot of people say "not all furries yiff, not all dress up in fursuits, not all are gay and furries are not all male", but there's a big difference between that and utter denial.

:::As for Wikipedia, you have to remember that the purpose of their project (as ours) is to '''make an encyclopedia''', ''not'' to make fun of people. The [[Wikipedia:furry fandom|furry fandom]] article already has five whole paragraphs on sexual activities. I think that gives readers a fairly good idea of the extent of sexual content in the fandom. When you get [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Furry_lifestyler&diff=prev&oldid=51228054 edits] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Furry_Wikipedians&diff=prev&oldid=51070460 like] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Furry_fandom&diff=prev&oldid=50860121 these], it is very easy to see why a lot of them get reverted.

:::ED would have furry stuff on it regardless, I am sure. After all, we already own [[LiveJournal]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 01:32, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

==Thanks!==
Thank you for your barnstar award, I appreciate your recognition. I have found in recent weeks just how difficult it is to start a Wika, and it's always nice to have someone appreciate the work. While I still need to read up on the goals and concept of this Wiki, I'm a big comic book fan and can hopefully help with some new content. You can contact me at my [http://oc.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Xtreme680 talk page] at [http://oc.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page The O.C. Wikia]. - [[User:Xtreme680|Xtreme680]] 09:33, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

==My page got vandalized...==
Apparently it happened today even, suprisinly. Some user going by the name of Clambake....*sigh*. And it has to be somebody with access to aby.com or yiffstar.com, because that's the ONLY place I've posted the picture used with even a slight bit of public access. --[[User:lucashoal|lucashoal]] 3:40 PM, May 9 2006 (EST)
:I will say that the staff already reverted the edits made to your page. The image, though I have not seen it, was already deleted. ----[[User:Markus|Markus]]([[User talk:Markus|talk]]) 23:41, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
::Indeed. [[User:DuncanDaHusky|Duncan]] was pretty quick on the ball!

::I find it odd that you were able to revert their work so quickly - according to [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Luca_Shoal&curid=651&action=history the history], just four minutes passed between the picture being uploaded and your reversion. How did you know that they had posted the picture there? --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 00:23, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

:::I just decided to log in today to see if anyone had left me a note, or made any changes to my page. And seeing the picture, well... It was a matter of luck really. I know it seems....fishy, but I honestly had no way at all of knowing this edit had taken place.
:::As for the picture? It was a picture of me, not just Luca, but me in the real world. Specifically, it was one taken at a babyfur party, and in a pink dress.
:::Thank you though for everything ^^. [[User:Lucashoal|Lucashoal]] 9:03 PM, May 9 2006 (EST)

::::'''*grins*''' - well, you were fortunate, then. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 05:04, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

== Transformation ==

I'm reasonably sure that [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Transformation&diff=prev&oldid=57531 this] is actually correct, if badly formatted and perhaps not completely relevant to this wiki. See [http://metamedia.stanford.edu/traumwerk/index.php/More%20Dragons%20in%20Northumbria here] for the rhyme. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 18:45, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

:I did get a indeed get a positive hit for the rhyme, but Google turned up nothing relevant for Lanelet, Elidia, Zaikhoeven, or "Duncan Frasier" and "Robert Lambe". I tried several different spelling variants and still came up with nothing. Now, I'm willing to grant that Google is not actually the sum of ''all'' knowledge, but the lack of hits and the near-unreadability of the edit makes me suspicious. ----[[User:DuncanDaHusky|DuncanDaHusky]]([[User talk:DuncanDaHusky|talk]]) 18:55, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

::Duncan Frasier is cited as the author of the rhyme in the above link. Robert Lambe is likely to be [http://www.exploreberwick.co.uk/ArtsInBerwick/Legends/3_03.htm this guy].

::There does seem to be some confusion in online sources about who wrote the item and when it was written. Don't suppose you know any medieval historians? :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 19:10, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

:::I've done some further research and I think I see the problem: it's written in the arcane and byzantine languange of ''academese'', a language I'm afraid I lost my fluency in years ago (and besides, I only ever spoke technical academese - I think it relates to Liberal Arts academese like Classical Latin to Vulgate Latin :-) I'll warrant that it was a valid edit, but written so impenetrably I would question its value. I've found a couple of useful links that might help; I'll probably poke at it a bit more tonight.----[[User:DuncanDaHusky|DuncanDaHusky]]([[User talk:DuncanDaHusky|talk]]) 19:17, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

== Thank you ==

Thank you for fixing my first upload :D I just joined and I'm still trying to get used to it all. I hope I atleast put THIS post in the correct place.

Adipophilia

2006-05-13T05:01:09Z

Chaotikat:

Lipophilia in the furry community refers to the interest/sexual fetish in which a person fantasizes about gaining weight, or causing others to gain weight. Many lipophiles prefer the term '''fat furs''' and are either [[anthropomorphic]] [[furry]] [[character]]s who are overweight or obese, and/or may be members of the [[furry fandom]] who are overweight or obese in real-life.

Unlike other related [[:Category:Paraphilias|paraphilias]] such as [[inflatophilia]] or [[vorarephilia]], lipophilia can be and is sometimes played with [[Wikipedia:Fat fetishism|outside of the furry community]], but most fat furs prefer to take advantage of online roleplaying rather than rely on actual weight gain to fulfill their fantasies.

While most roleplays revolve around giving tummy-scritches to feel how soft a friend's tummy is getting, or one fur snuggling into the bulk of another heavier fur, some roleplayers prefer a more proactive stance on fatness.

These roleplays can include, but certainly aren't limited to, consensual or non-consenual (forced) stuffing/feeding (where one character cooks for and feeds another character), snug or ripped clothing (due to weight gain), gluttony and unintentional weightgain (characters eating more than they should without seeming to notice or realize), loss of muscularity and fitness (due to excessive lazing around during an off season), or teasing (one character making fun of another character's weight gain or the limitations imposed upon them by gaining weight).

[[Image:lei.jpg]]

[[Category:Community]]

Adipophilia

2006-05-13T05:00:45Z

Chaotikat:

[[Image:lei.jpg]]Lipophilia in the furry community refers to the interest/sexual fetish in which a person fantasizes about gaining weight, or causing others to gain weight. Many lipophiles prefer the term '''fat furs''' and are either [[anthropomorphic]] [[furry]] [[character]]s who are overweight or obese, and/or may be members of the [[furry fandom]] who are overweight or obese in real-life.

Unlike other related [[:Category:Paraphilias|paraphilias]] such as [[inflatophilia]] or [[vorarephilia]], lipophilia can be and is sometimes played with [[Wikipedia:Fat fetishism|outside of the furry community]], but most fat furs prefer to take advantage of online roleplaying rather than rely on actual weight gain to fulfill their fantasies.

While most roleplays revolve around giving tummy-scritches to feel how soft a friend's tummy is getting, or one fur snuggling into the bulk of another heavier fur, some roleplayers prefer a more proactive stance on fatness.

These roleplays can include, but certainly aren't limited to, consensual or non-consenual (forced) stuffing/feeding (where one character cooks for and feeds another character), snug or ripped clothing (due to weight gain), gluttony and unintentional weightgain (characters eating more than they should without seeming to notice or realize), loss of muscularity and fitness (due to excessive lazing around during an off season), or teasing (one character making fun of another character's weight gain or the limitations imposed upon them by gaining weight).

[[Category:Community]]

File:Lei.jpg

2006-05-13T05:00:04Z

Chaotikat: