User talk:GreenReaper

2006-10-21T05:34:49Z

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== Welcome Response September 12, 2006 ==

Thank you, GreenReaper. I kinda stumbled across this site yesterday and decided to 1. Create an account and 2. Make my page. I was quite flattered to find my name listed in the DJ section of Rainbow Tiger's page, so I got my hooves wet and started a personal page. I'll try to keep it rated PG, but we'll have to see what happens. I'll have a placeholder up for a while with many ... many edits while I figure out the syntax.

[[Heuvadoches Naumova]]

== Welcome response ==

You're welcome! I'll be sure to let you know if I need any help. =^.^= -[[User:Alfador|Alfador]]

Thanks, GR. -- [[User:VederJuda|VederJuda]] 10:54, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

== [[PAINWOLF]] ==
Name painwolf I need to talk to about my page.

Contact Info:
Yahoo and AIM: NL4PAINWOLF
MSN: PAINWOLF@hotmail.com

E-mails: PAINWOLF@gmail.com

:''Replied'' --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 02:58, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

== Norn ==

Ok, so i guess the question is, why is there a norn running around on the furry edit link ... it seems to hide if I try to interact directly. Do you have more info? -- [[User:Mongoose|Amar Shadowpaws]] 14:25, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

:I think his name is Hebe. He followed me over from the [[w:c:Creatures|Creatures Wiki]]. I've not had the time to catch him and release him back into [[w:c:Creatures:Albia|the wild]] yet. Besides, he likes to help out - he's done a good job at finishing off the stubs people leave around. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 18:04, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

==Thanks for coming to lunch ==

Here are my [http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Wikimania_Notes notes] from our lunch. We will start working hard to get more information out on where the features and bug fixes are going. I really appreciated your support and encouragement, not too mention chatting with you at dinner Thursday. [http://world.wikia.com/wiki/User:Gil Gil]| [http://world.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Gil talk]

==Response to Welcome==
Just wanna say thanks for the greeting, I'll be sure to ask if I need help with anything ;)

Thanks for greeting me. I had to make my own page look a little spiffier ya know? :D

==Thanks for cleaning up after me==
I've been multitasking, so I'm a little scatterbrained at the moment. =^_^!= --[[User:Frizzy|Frizzy]] 05:37, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

And me as well, thanks. Couldn't figure out why I couldn't get those wikipedia links working internally, o,O
--[[User:Animakitty|Anima]] 18:24, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

== Picture on commons ==
Your lecture was very interesting. I have one more picture of you. See:
*http://www.poli.toya.net.pl/Wikimania_2006_galeria/pages/100-0070_IMG.html
Fill free to copy it if you want.

Polimerek.

:Thanks again! I'll do that. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 20:39, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

== infoboxes ? ==

I copied [[Wikipedia:Template:Infobox Webcomic]] to [[Template:Infobox webcomic]] because I thought having webcomic infoboxes (such as the one at [[Wikipedia:Aozora]]) would be nice. The template partially works (example at [[User:EarthFurst]]). I'm guessing the rest of that template doesn't work because WikiFur doesn't have [[Template:If]] ? WP has [[Wikipedia:Template:If]]. --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 05:22, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

:According to [[User:Splarka|Splarka]], it's due to a problem with tables and parserfunctions on Wikia. He going to try fixing it . . . --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 05:34, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

::Hmm, the infobox was working beautifully at [[TwoKinds]], but doesn't seem to be working now. I've posted question to wikia's Help desk on the matter http://www.wikia.com/index.php?title=Forum:Wikia_hiccup_%3F&t=20060817035856 . I'm reverting [[TwoKinds]] until the error is resolved. I'll be re-checking [[User:EarthFurst]] to see when the infox starts working again. --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 05:03, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

== Did you know? ==

[[Rod O'Riley]]'s band [[Illegal Operation]] will be performing live as part of the furry programming track at this month's [[Worldcon]] in the Los Angeles area. Do you think it would be a reasonable use of the [[WikiFur:Did you know?|Did you know?]] box to add an entry for this to help draw attention to it? Thanks! --[[User:Frizzy|Frizzy]] 16:39, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

:Don't see why not. That whole section could do with a full update. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 16:56, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

::I just got some bad news that the concert event had to be cancelled due to issues out of their control, so I revised the entry. --[[User:Frizzy|Frizzy]] 05:33, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

== Featured article ==

It's fun to see that my bio is a Featured article now. That means both of my pages have gotten onto the front page.
[[User:Fox Cutter|Fox Cutter]] 21:45, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

:I know! This wasn't actually intentional - I only noticed after I featured it. It seemed to be a good pick, so it went up. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 21:52, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

== Hi there! ==

Thanks very much pal, if I need any help I know who to turn to now. ^^

- Eric B.

P.S. I'm sorry for posting this as an article, I really don't know how to respond to the comment you gave me. Well, maybe I need your help already. ^^;

== RVDDP2501 ==

Hey GreenReaper, Its been a while since I had last heard from you, hows things? Listen, I just wanted to say thanks for the reversion of the damaged done to one of my character pages, man, when will this stupidness stop, hope to hear from you - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 23:15, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

:Hi there. Things are good! The vandalism will continue, undoubtedly, to a greater or lesser extent, but we seem to be coping with it well enough. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 23:22, 23 August 2006 (UTC)''

::Hi GreenReaper, the upgrade was a pleasant surprise after that last bit of unpleasant business. Thanks! --[[User:Frizzy|Frizzy]] 04:06, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

== sorry for the previous post : ==

Sorry for the post, I just wanted to report a raid that was headed your way.
If i suspect a raid in the future where do you think i should report this too?
:I had to check the article history to find the post you were referring to. At a guess, it was probably mistaken for link spam, which we get here fairly often. We do appreciate the efforts of people to notify us of attacks in the offing. For future reference, it would be helpful to include a couple of sentences saying what is to be found at the link. (By the way, when I tried the link just now I got a 'Thread Not Found' error - whatver had been there is gone now.) --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 07:58, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

:Here is fine, although you could try the [[Forum:Index|forum]] as well. As for your post, someone else edited my user page to remove it, but I'd already read the thread before you posted it so that was OK. :-)

:We get a lot of people planning stuff, but half of them never show up, and the rest turn out only to have 5 people or so. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 16:24, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

== Incomming Raid Group!!! ==

[[Image:Wikifur.png|left|frame|This is the [[WikiFur]] logo!]]

Be On the lookout for the next few days please sir! --[[User:PaulRevere|PaulRevere]] 21:15, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

:It would be helpful if we had a link to the site where this came from so we could investigate further. --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 21:18, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

:Oh, DeusEx again? He's been working on that for a while, as I recall. I guess we'll see if anything comes of it. We've coped quite well so far with a full bot attack, even when it was using a network of 600 proxies.

:It's cute the way they seem to think using Í will stop google indexing their site, let alone the "totally inept" part. So far it's about 10-0 on successful "organized" raids. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 21:35, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

::That reminds me - did we ever implement a "panic button" - something any of the admins could use in an emergency to block all updates if a major vandalism/bot attack were in progress? If there is an easy way to protect the entire site to sysop only, that would probably suffice. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 21:43, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

:::Like a "Lock-down" script? [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 22:09, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

::::More like a "restrict edits to group X" script, though locking the DB might be a reasonable first step. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 22:17, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

:: You know, we need to write an app to have a [[User:Nidonocu#Score_Board|Score Board]] like what Nidonocu has. --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 21:45, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

::::I edit that manually you know. ;) Though I agree a panic page would be useful. --[[User:Nidonocu|Nidonocu]] - [[User talk:Nidonocu|talk]] [[Image:Trans 168.png|16px|Nidonocu]] 23:20, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

:::Oh Gods ^-^ or a [[Wikipedia:DHS|DHS]]'s like [[Wikipedia:Homeland_Security_Advisory_System|Security Advisory System]],... "Today's Threat Level is "Fluffy," with some chances of /b/tards in the afternoon." [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 22:09, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

== Removing a name on "People". ==

Hello there! i am Crowe Basalt, and previously, i did go by "Grimmutt". i edited an article on "Grimmutt", but, as i am going back to only using the "Crowe Basalt" name, i'd like to have "Grimmutt"'s page removed.

thank you! {{unsigned|Crowebasalt}}

:Hi there, Crowe, and welcome back to WikiFur! The best way to go about that is usually to move the article, as that preserves the original history. I will fix that up later tonight when I get home. Do you wish us to keep the information about your character Grimmutt as a separate section on the page about you, or should I remove it and just mention that you used to go by the name? --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 22:40, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

== Alternative to page protection ==

Hey, this is Carrie Pika.

Is there any way I can get this page locked so it shows only this? I don't want anyone adding personal information about me without my knowledge, so I'd like to have it left at just this.

Thanks~ {{unsigned|CarriePika}}

:We can probably do that. You could also just put your email into your [[Special:Preferences|user preferences]] and then click the Watch tab, so it will tell you whenever someone edits so that you can check it out. Which would you prefer? --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 23:35, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Oh, that'd work great, actually! I'll go ahead and do that. Thanks! {{unsigned|CarriePika}}

:Excellentage. Enjoy WikiFur. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 04:44, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

== And thanks to you. ==

I do appreciate the clean-up of my page, and the separation of the book summary. Many thanks! You guys do an amazing job here. - Alicia

:You're welcome. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 21:37, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

== something to be very angry ==

I wrote an article and someone, german wrote me this:

"Meine Fresse, ich hab noch nie so ein BESCHISSENES ENGLISCH gelesen. Kauf dir mal ein verdammtes Leben!!"

In a free translation it's:"Damn I've never read such a shitty english. Buy a damn life"
Well maybe my english isn't taht good but is it necessary to write the comment in this way? Without an name or anything else.

I think you're not able to find out who did it are you?

And so maybe you could delete my account and the article about me. because I don't want to be a part of something like this. Sorry and thanks for the chocolat. ^^ {{unsigned|Andraste}}

:That comment [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Andraste&action=history was made] by a person with the IP address [[User:89.48.235.195|89.48.235.195]]. They are obviously not a regular user, otherwise they would indeed have signed their comment - and made the edit with a registered account. That edit to the talk page was their [[Special:Contributions/89.48.235.195|only contribution so far]]. There is therefore little to say about them, other than that their IP address resolved to the name "Lebc3.l.pppool.de" - probably a dialup account in Germany.

:I would suggest you pay as much attention to you as someone who posts once on a forum anonymously to insult you, never having contributed to that forum before - that is, precisely no attention at all. If your English is not the best, so what? You are German! The fact that you can write English at all is better than most English people could do with German. If they thought the article was bad, the anonymous editor should have fixed it rather than complained about it. And, in fact, many others did. :-)

:In the last day [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Andraste&action=history several edits] by at least four other people have been made to the article about you (perhaps you made a link to it from somewhere else?). I would ask that you consider '''those''' edits to be an example of what WikiFur is, and not the anonymous commenter - who, I would note, could not even manage to put their ''own'' comment in English. We have [[WikiFur:No personal attacks|a policy against personal attacks]], and any regular contributor would know better than to make such a comment. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 17:59, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

== Recategorization of [[List of convention acronyms]] ==

I don't see why this fits better with [[:Category:Convention terms]] than [[:Category:Conventions]] when it seems to fit the Conventions cat just as well as [[List of furs who were married at a furry con]] or [[List of conventions by attendance]] (both of which are in [[:Category:Conventions]]), since like those two, its a sort of comparison/reference list between different conventions, as opposed to Category:Convention terms which seems to be a list of general terms used within a convention. --[[User:Chibiabos|Chibiabos]] 21:12, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

:OK. Change it back if you wish. My view was that an acronym was a convention term, but I can can see your side too. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 23:59, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

== Wikifur now adversarial? ==

I've read with interest the discussion on Sibe, specifically your comment:

''That is why I am opposed to the removal of the article in whole - because what he has done deserves remembering. It is our business, because Sibe has been bothering us as a community.''

Does this mean Wikifur will not be so much as a source of neutral information, but that Wikifur will now become adversarial in relations to information about people who you (singularly or collectively) believe have wronged Furry? Do you feel that it's now your job/right/reponsibility to punish these people by using Wikifur as a "bully pulpit"?

I hope this isn't the case. Wikifur, despite a healthy dose of pro-Furry slobbery, has been a respectable source of neutral information.

:You'd have to put that question to the wider community for a full answer, as it's a question about where they want WikiFur to go. I'm one of the editors leading the project, but there are others. Still, I can provide some explanation, and the answer I would give is basically "no, but we're not going to go out of our way to do such people any favours either."

:The information on the individuals itself ''should'' unquestionably be neutral and factual (no, this doesn't always happen, and if you see a problem, please explain why and fix it). The only choice we have been making in some cases is whether or not to ''remove'' that neutral information (or some of it) on request, per the [[WikiFur:Personal information|personal information policy]]. This might well ''not'' be a neutral decision, because this is a community made up of members of the furry fandom, and as it is our website it is up to us to decide whether or not that is appropriate. Ultimately our role is to serve the best interests of the fandom, and that generally means trying not to hurt those who are or have been worthwhile members of it. We may care less about the possibility of hurting other people.

:If a person is just a regular member of the fandom - maybe well-regarded, maybe just "one of the gang", then people tend not to fuss too much if they want to remove personal information - and if they have not really done all that much special, that might include the entire article about them (if not, then references to them might remain in other articles). If an individual has, over time, given the community a significant amount of grief, they are likely to say "no, this person is just trying to hide from the problems they have caused" and deny the request. In short, if they've had no respect for our community, then we as a community are likely to have as little respect for them. That is why exclusions that may be contentious go to talk pages - so that the community can decide what to do in that particular situation.

:These sorts of situation are fortunately pretty rare. In Sibe's case, though, his "bothering" was widely commented-on, were intimately connected to his person (not any external group), and occured over a long period of time. If WikiFur is recording furry history, it makes little sense to exclude him, particularly given that he has shown no reticence (or regret) on occasion over detailing the lives of others where it suited ''him''. We're perfectly aware that he doesn't like it being up there, but over time he's pissed off enough people in the fandom that few seem to care about what he feels anymore.

:The thing is, all we have to do is say the truth. His own actions are what comdemn him. We don't even need to say they were bad. If telling the truth about someone makes them look bad in the eyes of the reader, then it's a fair bet that they deserve it.

:This situation of information removal based on respect does not really apply to groups, whatever the standing of the group in the community. I would not support removing the history of the [[Burned Furs]], for example, or that of [[Sociopolitical Ramifications]], or [[FurryMUCK]], because these are important groups that have had a historical impact on the fandom. Maybe if it was a really small and personal group that hasn't . . . again, that'd be discussed on the appropriate talk pages.

One final question: why is it so common to list the real names of people who've had adversarial relations with furry but not with those individuals considered friendly to the fandom? Why are real names included at all?

:There might be various reasons for the inclusion of real names. For some people, their real name is just one item of information about them, such as the colour of their character's fur. Other people might not '''have''' nicknames that are well-known within the fandom (but really, this applies as much if not more to people "friendly to the fandom" as to others). In that case, it seems appropriate to use their real name, just as we tend to use the real name of artists that have used it as their identifier in the fandom.

:In some cases, there may have been a good reason to find out the real name of a person, particularly if it might allow members of the furry fandom to more easily identify a person who is using a variety of nicknames or even their real name in a different venue (we can't say "go look at Laurence's posts in forum X" without telling them who Laurence is). It might also be that people are just more inclined to include the real names of people that they don't like, in the hope that others outside the fandom will see what that person is like. This is not ideal editing, but if the person concerned doesn't request the removal of their name, it will not be changed - the article will be reworded to be based solely on facts if possible, or removed if not.

:The question perhaps shouldn't be "why are real names included at all", but "why aren't real names included for everyone?". Ultimately, aritcles should be under the name which people would link to, and so that is the only name that '''has''' to be there. In the furry fandom, this is more often than not the person's fan name, if they have one. They may only use this name, or they may use their real name as well. If so, people may or may not decide to add it, but it's not considered critical if it's not usually used. Even if a person's real name ''is'' regularly used, in general we will on request remove a person's real name and replace it with their fan name/nickname when describing them, whether or not they are/have been members of the fandom. However, members of the fandom are a) more likely to request this, becuase more of them come here, b) are (slightly) more likely to have such a request accepted (because if non-members are listed here it is usually because they are either famous or infamous, not just because they're furry), and c) are more likely to have such nicknames to use in the first place (we can't exactly say "The comic Fuzzy Things, authored by {blank} . . .").

:I'm aware this answer was rather long and rambling, but that's because I'm tired, and it's a complicated issue when talking in general. If you have specific cases you want explained, feel free to point them out. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 02:29, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

::GreenReaper, in response to your reply, I have added comments to two talk sections, Sibe and Burned Fur, pointing out what I see as an unfair biasing. I'm interested in your reply on both.

::There's also one other possible point on Sibe that you might want to run by an attorney, since the status of Wiki's as "legitimate publications" is still in legal limbo: Sibe is legally a "private figure" and his actions in Furry do not make him, in the legal sense, a "public figure" (both of these are legal terms). As a private individual, he's afforded certain legal protections about what information can be revealed. These protections may or may not cover his criminal record or other information. I think it would be worth your time to consult with someone from the EFF and make sure you haven't crossed the line. While you say that you're just one editor, if no other person can over-rule your edits without your consent, it's your "publication". As such, even if Sibe were to decide to come after Wikifur ''et al'' for any damages the publication of protected information caused him (if any such protections exist at all), you'd still be on the line. Again, the law regarding this may or may not cover him.

:::I agree (unlike some) that Sibe is a private figure, and as such someone ''might'' be liable if we were negligent in publishing made-up facts, even if we did not act with the knowledge that they were false (or with reckless disregard as to whether or not they were false). For example, if we said that the Burned Furs burned people, that would be libel without good evidence. However, a glance at the talk page archives and article history should show you that we have been willing to work with concerned parties to ensure the accuracy of the article, and to obtain exact sources for assertions where appropriate. We have no interest in being negligent (and certainly not grossly negligent), because that makes for a poor article.

:::In contrast, the limitations on information that is actually ''true'' are really quite small, and in general don't apply to us as a private site. I'm not a lawyer, but this situation has come up before and so I've done some research. Criminal records are public information in the State of Washington (and generally speaking in other states). Most other privacy legislation is aimed at restricting what companies can tell third parties about their customers (who they have a contract with), and not about what individuals (who never agreed to any contract) may publish from their own knowledge. The [[Wikipedia:First Amendment to the United States Constitution|First Amendment]] gives us rather sweeping powers in this area that allow us to publish just about anything as long as it is true, and in practice the "due process" terms of the [[Wikipedia:Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution|Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution|Fourteenth Amendment]] extends this to the states as well. Credit card numbers, social security numbers and driver's license number would probably be stuff that should be removed. Other than that, it's pretty much fair game and up to the community to decide what it ''should'' publish, in a moral sense.

:::[[Wikia:Wikia, Inc.|Wikia]] is able to overrule my edits without my consent. If people feel I'm not doing a good enough job, or that WikiFur is infringing their rights, they should contact them. They have more experience than I do, and I am willing to defer to them. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 19:52, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

== Hi, Peace from AU ==
Hello, my name is D. Coldheartt. I am the head admin of the Alternative Universe wiki which is also pretty big. I am a big fan of, well furry stuff and creatures and animals so i decided to join here. I was wondering if i could also become a administrator here if at all possib;e. [[User:D. Coldheartt|D. Coldheartt]] 23:44, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

: Admin status is generally given to users who have a history of contributing to the wiki. If you're interested in becoming an admin, we recommend following [[Special:Recentchanges]] and contributing to/cleaning up articles, dealing with vandalism, etc.
: I'm curious about this Alternate Universe wiki that you mentioned. Typing "Alternate Universe wiki" into Google [http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=%22Alternative+Universe+wiki%22&btnG=Search brings up zero matches]. [http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=%22Alternative+Universe%22+wiki&btnG=Search A slightly more liberal search] did not help me find it either. Did I misspell or typo something? --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 00:22, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

The AU has actually been down for quite some time and replaced with Vandal Manifest Editthis Wiki. [[User:D. Coldheartt|D. Coldheartt]] 00:24, 13 September 2006 (UTC) WikiTV started at Revived Haven Editthis and moved on to Meta Wiki. Jimbos one of the users alowed into revived haven. [[User:D. Coldheartt|D. Coldheartt]] 00:24, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

: [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22Vandal+Manifest%22&btnG=Google+Search Googling for Vandal Manifest] does not turn up anything.
: [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22Revived+Haven%22&btnG=Google+Search Googling for Revived Haven] does not turn up anything, either.
: I'm sensing a pattern here. --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 00:32, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

:: And he first [[:Special:Contributions/D._Coldheartt|spammed a bunch of the admins]] to ask for admin privileges. --[[User:Frizzy|Frizzy]] 00:39, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Heres the link: to VM, http://editthis.info/vandal_manifest/Main_Page a former vandal war site but now good. Ignore the messages the page their is called WikiTV. [[User:D. Coldheartt|D. Coldheartt]] 00:35, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

::None of the pages are available for viewing without a password [[User:63.204.227.202|63.204.227.202]] 00:46, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

:::Please ignore [[User:D. Coldheartt]], it is a swfanon sockpuppeter and general wikia attention spammer. Usernames include: Alacaster Torn, The Vanguard, ThatLittleMidget, Proffesor Mephisto, Black Dawn, Licorice ... --[[w:User:Splarka|Splarka]] ([[w:User_talk:Splarka|talk]]) 01:47, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

== Well cheers for the welcome! ==

Just thought I'd drop by and say thanks for the welcome - wasn't expecting that! Been using this site as a resourse for a good while now so I thought it was only right to inflict a little of myself on here.

[[Werewolf Of London]]

== Hey hey ==

Well I had some problems with creating the article of our new Polish Furries forum and website, but I'm good now.

Say would t be a problem for you to place an info about http://furry.wikia.com/wiki/Polska_Strefa_Furry on the main page? {{unsigned|TerrisRacoon}}

:I will update our [[WikiFur:Did you know?|Did you know?]] section on the front page, and include a link to that page, as it is interesting to know about new forums.

:Oh, and a couple of tips - you should not remove a message on a talk page after you have saved it - it should be left on the page so that the person can reply. Otherwise there is no record, and it looks as if there has been no message, which is confusing when the window pops up saying "you have new messages". :-) Also, you can sign your name on Talk: pages with this: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. It gives this sort of result: --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 08:32, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

== Furry gaming project...? ==

Seeing as how Wikipedia has a project that concetrates on improving the quality and quantity of gaming articles, may I suggest implementing a similiar project? The amount of games with furry elements is not a small one, and it would be very helpful, if information about those games (most are old, PC DOS titles, which run perfectly under DosBox) was included in one place, for sake of completeness and subject coverage.

Especially games like [[Project Nomad]] could use that coverage, as they have literally truckloads of content, and it would be helpful to store it in one place, much like [[Albion (video game)|Albion]]'s articles are done.

Just a thought.

Oh, and what is the general stance about making articles about oneself? Mikael Grizzly 22:30, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

:Seems like a nice enough idea. We already have [[WikiFur:Project Fursuit Central|something similar]] for [[fursuit]]ing, although that's been slow recently. The trouble is there are few "meta"-editors at this time, and so you may find it hard to gather contributors to help you out. I would suggest that you concentrate on one or two particular projects at a time so that it doesn't bog down in needing to do 10 different things at once. :-)

:Articles about yourself are fine as long as they are neutrally written, like any other article. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 04:19, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

== Need help putting up an article ==

I want to put up an essay that's under the GNU Free Docement Lisence, and I want to ask for a little bit of tips on how to do it before I actually do it. Or even how I'm suppose to do it. --[[User:Foxpaws-zupe|Foxpaws]] 00:52, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

:Could you be more specific about what you're trying to do? If you have a GFDL essay from another place, then in general it's fine to just copy it here into a new page as long as you give attribution for the people who wrote it (for example, with Wikipedia you would link to the history page) and preferably link back to the original source. Of course, it would have to fit the topic of the wiki, and be neutral in tone. If it was not neutral (whether or not you wrote it), you should probably avoid putting it in the main namespage - it should go a subpage of your User: space - e.g [[User:Foxpaws-zupe/Article name]] - and it should have a note up at the top similar to that of the [[:Template:personal-article|personal-article template]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 04:22, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Hey! I'll be alright, I guess. I'll fix the entries up s'more later.

I should remember to tag that 'minor edit' box more often. *nods*

Thank you

== Hi and thankies ==

Hi and thank you for this brill site {{unsigned|Fox92}}

== Happy Birthday! ==

*24 wolftytailswat-spankings!* --[[User:Chibiabos|Chibiabos]] 03:45, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

== Im sorry for the late reply, but thank you for welcoming me ==

Im afraid I am not use to this place yet and still have a long way to go on it. But im glad that hospitality is shown here ^_^

From [[Duragan]] {{unsigned|Duragan}}

== All Fur Fun now has official dates! ==

Hi there! Could you please edit the convention area to show that [[All Fur Fun]] will be held March 31 - April 1, 2007? Thanks much! :D

--[[User:Teeka|Teeka]] 01:11, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

:Done, and I hope you guys have fun! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 01:52, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

== Nah~ ==

Just tell me if I should remove the images. They are censored though, but you still see enough~ {{unsigned|Garyu}}

== Vandalism ==

Hey GreenReaper, thanks for repairing the damage to my page as well as other I may not know about - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 20:26, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

:You're welcome! --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 20:30, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

== Spam cleanup script ==

I have no idea if that was a valid spam cleanup script or if it was an elaborately created vandalism technique, but either way, it was blanking whole pages rather than just removing "spam" links (which weren't actually spam), so I blocked it temporarily. Feel free to unblock it if it isn't actually something trying to erase the whole Wiki. ;3 [[User:SpazKitty|Spaz Kitty]] 02:42, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

== Higgs Raccoon ==

May I nominate [[User_talk:Higgs Raccoon|Higgs Raccoon]] for upgrading to admin? In addition to contributing to numerous articles, he's helped revert vandalism on more than one occasion. --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 15:07, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

:Let's try that out, then. [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=500&target=Higgs_Raccoon Contributions] are a little low (and lacking discussion edits), but they '''are''' all good, and it's not like there aren't a couple of admins with fewer. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 15:27, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

::Well, this is quite an honour. Thankyou Mwalimu for the nomination, and GreenReaper for OKing it. Quite unexpected, really - as noted above, I haven't been here very long and haven't contributed a lot as yet. Hopefully the whole Wikifur novelty won't suddenly wear off. Oh well, if that happens I guess what GreenReaper giveth he can also taketh away! ;) --[[User:Higgs Raccoon|Higgs Raccoon]] 10:13, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

:::Technically, no - I have to go to Wikia for that. That's why I don't generally give it out without recommendation. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 22:46, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

== Vandalism War! ==

A user going by the name of [[User:Arwel Parry]] is vandalizing a number of pages right now! I'd reverting edits as fast as I can. Always happy to help! --[[User:Robomilk|Tori]] 11:18, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Fixed vandalism with [[User:Arcturus]] --[[User:Robomilk|Tori]] 11:33, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

== Where you be on Eye Arr Cee? ==

*cough* Um.. ignore the poor rhyming, just wondering where you is as I've snuck back to the IRC channel the last few days and haven't seen you on at all. o.O --[[User:Nidonocu|Nidonocu]] - [[User talk:Nidonocu|talk]] [[Image:Trans 168.png|16px|Nidonocu]] 20:24, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
:...Now I see your note, make it '''bigger''' next time. X) --[[User:Nidonocu|Nidonocu]] - [[User talk:Nidonocu|talk]] [[Image:Trans 168.png|16px|Nidonocu]] 20:30, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

== SilvrWingsDragon ==

He! Its me, Carrie, from Anthrocon. I tickled you, remember? And I think I had the pupper fox plushie. :) Whats up?

You can, btw, reach me at AminElea@aol.com

:Hi there! I do indeed remember . . . *hides*

:I'm doing fairly well - indeed, I just went to [http://conclavesf.org another convention] last weekend (which I need to actually write about sometime this week). I'll try and contact you when I get back home - still busy at work right now. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 21:39, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

== Furcadia origins? ==

I am not trying to be a pain in the rear here, but I wonder about the claim on the furcadia article that says that it has been around since 1996. I was following this stuff back in the late nineties and I was pretty surprised to hear that. Wolfhome was one of the first websites featuring multi-user chat and I don't remember furcadia.com being around. We were running a company by 2000. While I didn't do an exhaustive search, I am surprised that a furry chat site that would have been a direct competitor to Wolfhome escaped me. Wolfhome started on Gre7g Luterman's site, TempleOfLuna.com, back on October 31st, 1999.

The other thing that I discovered is that the whois record for Furcadia.com was created in 1999 (see below). Add to that a web search on the "Wayback Machine" http://web.archive.org, which tracks websites back to the mid nineties, which shows that in 1999, furcadia.com was a placeholder site:

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://furcadia.com

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Here's that whois record:

Registrant:
DRAGON'S EYE PRODUCTIONS, INC.
767 Sam Bass Rd
Round Rock, TX 78680-1048
US

Domain Name: FURCADIA.COM

Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
DRAGON'S EYE PRODUCTIONS, INC. sanct@furcadia.com
767 Sam Bass Rd
Round Rock, TX 78680-1048
US
+358407672478 fax: +358427672478

Record expires on 03-Feb-2011.
Record created on 03-Feb-1999.
Database last updated on 10-Oct-2006 21:10:34 EDT.

Domain servers in listed order:

NS.FURCADIA.COM 72.36.220.234
NS2.FURCADIA.COM 72.36.220.239

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None of that is meant to take away from the current success of furcadia, but I wonder what supports the claim that they were running a website back in 1996?

Here's the web archive for templeofluna.com:

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://templeofluna.com

BTW, thanks for providing this great site focusing on the Furry community!

[[User:Wunderwood|underdog]]

:Hi there, underdog! The claim is that they were running Furcadia (the client-based MMO experience) since 1996, not Furcadia.com (the website), and I think it is substantiated by [http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.furry/browse_frm/thread/46c69d49b74b57d0 this thread] from May 1999 in which Dr. Cat states in passing that it "opened two and a half years ago". There is also [http://web.archive.org/web/19981205041337/www.realtime.net/furcadia/ this website (www.realtime.net/furcadia)] from December 1998, at which point they appear to already have had 400,000 visits.

:As for the website - you're welcome! I didn't exactly do it by myself, though - you can [http://wikia.com/wikistats/EN/TablesWikiaFURRY.htm#wikipedians thank the people here], along with the hundreds of other editors for filling it with content. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 02:48, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

== Ah, ok.. I read that wrong ==

Thanks for the clarification. I had interpreted that pretty narrowly before. {{Unsigned|Wunderwood}}

== Hiya there ==

yeah, I found that I had a page to edit and submit info to, and thanks for the help offer. Ill be editing when I can, and look forward to contributing here. :3 {{unsigned|Zippo}}

== Wikipedia's techniques on trolls ==

Wikipedia usually reverts banned troll's comments and semi-protects pages. It works better. [[User:Tretonin|Tretonin]] 10:51, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

:It works for their situation. We have to make our own decisions and see how they work out. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 21:43, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

== From Buska ==

Hi and thanks for the welcome! I tried creating my own page as well. I really need to study the Wiki format a bit more however ^^ {{unsigned|Buska}}

== RE:Page name correction ==

Hey GreenReaper, thanks for the move, I will try not to make mistakes like that in the future - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 00:26, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

:No worries. We make them too, sometimes. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 00:29, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

== Extinctioners main page fixing ==

Hey GreenReaper, sorry to drop questions on a regular basis but I was wondering if you might know or see a way to modify or re-arrange the list of groups in the Extinctioner's main page, to some how make it appear more neat, thank you - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 18:17, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

== I have readed that you use Openbsd to host the wiki ==

Hello Greenreaper, thanks for your work on this Furry Wiki, I am trying to install mediawiki on openbsd, but can not login on mediawiki, can you help me? after i have logged in sucessfully, then i try to use the preferences page and it say that i am not logged in

thanks in advance.

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