Kyantol

2006-12-22T04:09:16Z

Akir: Very Basic Beginning....

A Kyantol (Japanese: キャントル, Kya-n-to-ru), sometimes called Cantaur due to mistranslation, is a Canine-like creature popularized in the Shining Force franchise. Despite the Canine background, some Kyantols may appear similar to fox halflings (Technically speaking, Kyantols are Canine halflings).

User:Akir

2006-12-21T02:23:14Z

Akir:

Yeah, I swear, I'm interesting. I just don't want to write right now.

However, it may be interesting to know that I write. In fact, I've come up with the creative decision to only add one item at a time to this page.
So Ha-Ha!

I find myself suffering frequently from my lack of drawing skills. I can't draw my fursona. :(

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Talk:WikiFur Furry Central

2006-12-02T23:26:56Z

Akir:

I have protected [[WikiFur Central]], as it is clear that otherwise it's going to continue to get vandalised. You can still edit each section on this page, and I encourage you to do so (assuming you don't intend to vandalise it! :-). However, you must learn how to use templates, first. This will require reading through the [[Help:Contents|help]] and the guide linked from there. Consider this a small competence test before you can edit the first thing people see when they surf here! If you still can't figure it out and want something changed, let me know on user talk or externally, and I can see what I can do.

If you have an idea for a better layout of this page (one which ''cannot'' be easily changed through the templates), please construct it somewhere first, and then let myself or another [[Project:Administrators|administrator]] know. I'm sorry for the lack of flexibility here, but sometimes protection is a necessary evil.

Happy editing! --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 09:23, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Moving to WikiFur Furry Central ==

I've moved the main page because it turns out that not actually having "Furry" in the name of the main page is a signifcant downer in terms of search optimization strategies. Hopefully this should bring us a little more traffic. :-) --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 01:15, 19 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Gotcha! ==

I logged on this morning and thought I was going to have to hunt down and revert a bunch of edits, before I remembered what day it was. Good one! --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 18:26, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

== Help us improve ==
I vote that the "Help us improve" bar be moved to the top of the right column; otherwise, I think it's not as easily seen when sandwiched between two larger articles. [[User:SpazKitty|Spaz Kitty]] 22:20, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

:You're right - it's not as easily seen that way. However, I tried that to start with, and I thought that it spoiled the look somewhat when it is was put there, because the Did you know? section gets shifted down one (the uneven headers look bad).

:It does give me an idea, though. Originally, we had a "wanted pages" section below the new bar, and above. It got removed because stuff was staying on there too long and it was a pain to update. Still, it was in a good place for attention.

:How about we put all of the furpile articles into an expanded "To be improved" category (maybe just by asking people to write a very short stub of them and putting it in stubs), and then use the [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/DynamicPageList DynamicPageList extension] (already installed) and a [http://alistapart.com/articles/taminglists/ modified list style] to display it in a similar way to the other lists? That way there's more chance that people will have something that they can improve on a given day, and articles get more than one chance at improvement. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 22:38, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

:We might even be able to swing [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/DynamicPageList2 DynamicPageList2], which would remove the need for many of the hacks, allow us to include more categories and allow a better ordering for this particular use. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 22:43, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

::I considered suggesting that the wanted bar be replaced, heh. And with my OCD tendencies, I'd certainly offer to take updating the wanted bar as one of my "jobs". [[User:SpazKitty|Spaz Kitty]] 22:49, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

:::Ideally, this would be something that was self-maintaining (like the newbar ''should'' be). If that doesn't work out then yes, someone updating it would work as well. I want to try and let people spend as much time on writing articles as possible, if possible. '''*grin*''' --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 22:52, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

== New layout? ==
I'm not a terribly big fan of the new layout...but I'm going to assume it's still under construction, seeing as how there are 3 columns on the left and only 1 on the right -- which I have now fixed. [[User:SpazKitty|Spaz Kitty]] 20:42, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

:I would rather have three on the left and both upcoming events and something else that works well in a small width on the right.

:Anything specifically that you don't like about it? --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 22:59, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

::The 3-1 column right now makes the page lopsided and too long, in my opinion (unless future featured articles/DYK? are going to have less content). I also don't like the shortened bars - with long titles like "Help us improve" and "New categories", you can really only see 2-4 items at the most. But if that's the only way to prevent problems on other browsers, I can deal. ;)
:: Also, should the "Admins - Help" part at the top be centered on the second line, or else the text made smaller so it all fits on one line? [[User:SpazKitty|Spaz Kitty]] 23:02, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
:::I put a link to Community Central in the main header, and since the new/newcat bars are featured in full there, perhaps they should be removed from the front page? [[User:SpazKitty|Spaz Kitty]] 00:46, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Looks good, GR. [[User:SpazKitty|Spaz Kitty]] 08:04, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

:Thanks. I would still like to get the new pages on there somehow. Do users click them, though? I would have thought so, but I don't know for sure . . . --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 08:24, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

::Personally, I think it mostly served the purpose of showing "Hey, WikiFur's updating new articles all the time" rather than inducing people to click on them (unless they saw something they related to). Plus, most new pages are tagged as stubs, so they'll get picked up on the Furpile bar as well. I think it looks fine without the newbars on the main page. [[User:SpazKitty|Spaz Kitty]] 09:21, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

== Article of the ____ ==
Perhaps we should just have "Featured article" and "Featured comic", rather than specifying a time period? [[User:SpazKitty|Spaz Kitty]] 05:04, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
:Agreed, so long as we don't update them regularly. -- [[User:DeVandalizer|DeVandalizer]] 05:05, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
::I think this just means that we (me? :-) shouldn't be so lazy in featuring stuff! The trouble is I get occupied with other tasks and never seem to get an uninterrupted block of time to choose and write up something. :-/ --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 05:12, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

== Protected talk page ==

Is there a reason this talk page is locked to "users with sysop privileges" only? -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 21:28, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

:I suspect it was to deal with a past spam or vandal problem. I've lowered it to "registered user" level. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 21:32, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

== Caching ==

Is anyone else finding the recent (July 31) vandalism on the front page coming up instead of the latest (reverted) version? I suspect I'm hitting a caching mechanism somewhere between here and Wikia, Inc. but I wanted to see if anyone else was experiencing this problem. [[User:Simba B|Simba B]] 21:45, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

:If in doubt, go to [http://furry.wikia.com/wiki/WikiFur_Furry_Central?action=purge this URL] to clear the cache. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 22:41, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

== Alphabetically by *first* name rather than last? ==

People should only be listed according to their first name if they have no given surname. Basic encylopedia rules. And yet I see Fox McCloud under F, Bucky O'Hare under B, and so on and so forth. Any particular reason for this? - [[User:Kooshmeister|Kooshmeister]]

:That's their rules. That's not our rules. :-)

:Many people in the fandom are known under one name, or worse, might have a two-word name but only be commonly known under the firest, so people looking for the first name might not see them. There are few cases where people are better known by their second names - in the cases you gave, people know both their first and second names - so why order by them? --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 02:09, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

::Um, so, in other words, you're doing it for the benefit of people who don't know how to properly navigate an encyclopedia? - [[User:Kooshmeister|Kooshmeister]]

:::Eh, my apologies if that sounded harsh. This is just a serious pet peeve of mine. - [[User:Kooshmeister|Kooshmeister]]

:::We're doing it for the benefit of users generally. As I see it, the main reason for sorting people by their last names in regular encyclopedias is that people are generally better-known by their last name, or their last name is important because grouping people by family is important (really two sides of the same coin - in both cases, the objective is easier searching or browsing by last name).

:::The furry fandom is a community where people tend to be better known to one another by their first names than their last (e.g. [[Deyna T. Otter]], [[Flinthoof Ponypal]], [[Kaijima A. Frostfang]] - and we also have a '''large''' proportion of people with just one name, or with an InterCapped name like my own). Our articles about people tend to be about these people (as opposed to "external" people, like [[memoryalpha:Talk:People|Star Trek]]). A sign of this is that we tend to refer to people by their first names throughout articles, even if they are "real" people (e.g. [[Mark Merlino]], [[Rod O'Riley]]). The number of people with the same last name is very small, and those that are related to one another will usually link to each other (and since wiki is not paper, you don't have to turn lots of pages to get there). Therefore, it seems better to consistently sort by their well-known first name rather than by a last name which they may or may not have, and which people may or may not know.

:::All other categories are sorted in this manner, so that means we have a self-consistent categorization system. It also happens to make the lives of editors easier, as they don't have to add reordering tags to 1500+ pages about people (and you know people would forget, or not know how to do it, resulting in pages that are ordered incorrectly).

:::The main place in which it seems sensible to reorder is when part of their "name" is an honorific, like [[Uncle Kage]] - people would probably expect to find him sorted under Kage rather than Uncle, especially since his "real" nickname is Kagemushi Goro. There are cases (usually with nicknames) in which this might not be the case, like [[Doctor Fennopolis]] or [[Lord Foxhole]]. Again, the ultimate criteria to make it easier to find people, which is the same reason we have the article name be the most common name (especially if people forget to add redirects from alternate names, as often happens).

:::Regarding your specific point: A '''lot''' of people don't know how to "properly" navigate an encyclopedia. Why should we make their lives harder for the sake of a convention that doesn't apply to our group? Being able to tweak the rules to suit our community is one of the benefits of having a separate wiki in the first place, after all. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 09:35, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

== Site display problems ==
It would appear that the new featured wikis strip on the right side of the page is messing up the layout. It's making the navigation strip appear a lot lower than the WikiFur logo, leaving about 400 pixels of space between them. This doesn't happen on all entries, just in some.

http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/4934/wikifurb0rkenaf4.png (No ads, all blocked due to Adblock)

At first, I thought it was due to Adblock, but it seems to happen when it's deactivated as well.

http://img445.imageshack.us/img445/6786/wikifurb0rken2gd9.png (Adblock disabled)

Any clue if that can be fixed?--[[User:Kitsune Sniper|Kitsune Sniper]] 22:06, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

:We're discussing the problem on the #wikia IRC channel right now. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 22:11, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

== Featured article length ==

I think the featured article and comic as displayed on [[WikiFur Furry Central]] should be shorter. On the displays I use (reasonaly large, with a browser window taking up a good portion of the screen) the featured comic is "below the fold" and easy to miss without scrolling. -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 21:57, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Just raise your resolution. It's never been too far down for me. --[[User:Akir|Akir]] 23:26, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

User:Akir

2006-12-02T02:18:32Z

Akir:

User:Akir

2006-12-02T02:18:20Z

Akir:

Talk:FurRag

2006-12-02T02:11:37Z

Akir:

I really want to improve the content of the FurRag Wikifur article. So if anyone can find out any information, like when it was started, who creates the HTML coding, etc.; please don't hesitate to add it to the page.--[[User:Akir|Akir]] 02:11, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Talk:FurRag

2006-12-02T02:11:29Z

Akir:

User:Akir

2006-10-21T04:40:35Z

Akir:

Yeah, I swear, I'm interesting. I just don't want to write right now.

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