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Talk:Drewkitty

2007-11-04T02:33:50Z

76.200.190.189:

I find it necessary to request that this page be protected from editing. I do not wish my personal and professional life to be mixed. Thank you.

:We [[WikiFur:Personal information|no longer provide for protected pages about people]], because we've basically found it just results in stale pages that ''nobody'' bothers to edit, not even the subject. This conflicts with our goal to have an up-to-date furry encyclopedia.
:If you wish for [[WikiFur:Personal exclusion|exclusion]], this can probably be arranged. However, I would note that monitoring all changes to this page merely requires registering an account, [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Drewkitty&action=watch watching this page], and [http://furry.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Preferences setting your account it up for email notification]. You will normally receive such notification within five minutes of an edit.
:I have also noted your request regarding your name in a comment in the wiki text. It is unlikely that anyone reading that is going to ignore it. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 02:31, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

:: Thank you for pointing me to the account tool. I will consider it.

:: I think I will settle for quoting the following from the [http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Terms_of_use | Wikia terms of use]

:: "Users shall not harass other users or collect or publish personal information about them."

:: I have no problem in general with people making public comments _about me_, ranging from my article in last Califur's con book through allegations as to my (lawful) sexual interests. I draw the line at identity information.

:: Thanks again. [[User:Drewkitty|drewkitty]]([[User talk:Drewkitty|talk]]) 3 November 2007

Talk:Drewkitty

2007-11-04T02:16:03Z

76.200.190.189: /* removed address */

I find it necessary to request that this page be protected from editing. I do not wish my personal and professional life to be mixed. Thank you.

Talk:Andrew clark

2007-11-04T02:13:34Z

76.200.190.189: /removal as agreed/

User talk:Drewkitty

2007-11-04T02:01:08Z

76.200.190.189: New page: Comments left here most likely *will not be read*.

Comments left here most likely *will not be read*.

User:Drewkitty

2007-11-04T02:00:26Z

76.200.190.189: New page: Drewkitty does not participate in WikiFur and is not a registered user.

Drewkitty does not participate in WikiFur and is not a registered user.

User talk:Spirou

2007-11-04T01:59:11Z

76.200.190.189: /* drewkitty */

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== Berios ==

Did you mean to leave [[Berios]] blank? Or should it be protected-excluded? --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 20:11, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
:Protected-excluded, but Safari is not formating the post right. It shows as intended on preview, but not when I save it. If you could fix it I would appreciate it [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 23:39, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
::The user contacted me via IM and asked that his paged be removed, and that the link between his RL name and fursona/character be broken. I deleted the [[Berios]] page and protected-excluded his RL name. I'm not sure what the precedent is for this but as long as the link isn't immediately obvious I think we will have satisfied the request. [[User:Simba B|Simba B]] 20:37, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Understood, But "Berios" (the name,) is a bit linked to the history of fandom, and deleting it outright would red-link possible present/future entries connections (attendances, contributions, etc...). That's why I undeleted it, killed the redirect to the person's name, and tried to "protect-excluded" (emphasis on "tried".)
:::Should be fined as long as his RL name is not connected to this alias in any article. [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 23:39, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

== Vorderman Post ==

Hi Spirou Can i please have some clarification if a factual event that happned at EF13 warents a post on wikifur. As southpaw is pretty adiment that it is not witin guidelines for Wikifur (Sorry My first article so its going to be a mess!)

Reasons that i think it deserved a post was that around 80% of the con actualy was into it at one point. The dance floor errupting and a few of the orginazers such as cheetah and uncle kage got in on the act. A lot of furrs have since asked "what was it all about" {{unsigned|WolfieUk|20:34, 12 September 2007 (UTC)}}

:No problem. As it stands, the entry is about a very localized, spur of the moment, event that, all thought occurring in a furry convention and propagated by furs, it (at this time,) doesn't stand out, or being furry common enough, to warrant it's own entry (vs something like [[Krystal can't enjoy her sandwich]], which, all though quick and new, it crossed all layers of furry fandom very quickly in a popular fashion with a lot of people, enough to be noteworthy.)

:It could be, instead of putting up to discuss its appropriateness as a standalone Wikifur article, merged as a section on the [[Eurofurence 13]] article, as Rat has already suggested to do [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 23:39, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

== Homestead? ==

Back in 2005 [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Whelpday&diff=20079&oldid=14810 one of your additions to Whelpday included “The Homestead”]. Was that Homestead a role-play section of alt.lifestyle.furry or the Homestead LJ? --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 22:20, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

The "Homestead" as [[Alt.lifestyle.furry|ALF]] is referred as sometimes =) [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 04:40, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

== User:74.15.21.167 ==

After reviewing the [[Special:Contributions/74.15.21.167|recent edits]] by this anonymous user, it is not obvious to me like they were acts of vandalism/bad faith. Questionable, perhaps, but possibly worthy of further discussion before taking action against this user. Are you familiar enough with the subject matter of the articles edited to be able to say otherwise? --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 18:07, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

:No, it wasn't actually the initial edits that made me reverse the changes, but the final two touches of taking out the contributor template ("uh?, why?",) and the little tweak on the Road Rover article (cute.) Not precisely nice final touches to try to seriously assert your prior arguments/edits [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 18:23, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

== Wiki-style Disagreement ==

I prefer dictionary-tabbing out segments versus making sub-segments, especially when the topics covered are short enough that they could be covered in a bulleted list (not to mention it causes that ugly Table Of Contents to show up, which is really unnecessary when we're discussing many short definitions). I consider it more 'wiki-like' in making sure the content is not obscured by needless details, and in this case your changes are the equivalent of a ten-pound parcel for a ten-ounce cargo.

I would really rather you leave my edits in that regard alone. I don't mind content being corrected, but the 'many small segments' appearance really bothers me, unless you intend on expanding each of the segments in [[How To Be a Furry]] out into sizable enough portions to be worth the alteration fairly soon. [[User:Jigsaw Forte|Jigsaw Forte]] 03:40, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

:Actually, it has nothing to do with the type of edit you prefer, instead of more on the formatting that Wikifur generally uses ([[Help:Furry_Book_of_Style]].) Not ribbing, or trying to get your goat, or, simply, "f**** with you," really, just following old formatting rules, which there are a few I also feel should be changed to be more pleasing looking. If you feel the type of format you're using could help enhance articles, please, do put the discussion forth =)

:In the mean time, no malice was intended with the formatting of the article [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 03:50, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

== Revert ==

Why did you revert [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=DrGamez&diff=166253&oldid=166215 this]? It's not really nice to have lots of unsourced rumors on an article about a real person. [[User:Hendrik18|Hendrik18]] 16:20, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

:Such list was not taken out, even when its user made edits to [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=DrGamez&direction=next&oldid=64175 it], which either means that (A) they were written by him or (B) he didn't have a problem with them. That's why the revert,...

:But, looking at it again, even if the reasons listed above are correct, this kind of fluff writing belongs in the contributor's user page, which does have the same [http://furry.wikia.com/wiki/User:DrGamez list] anyways, so re-reverting to your edit after all [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 22:13, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

== My personal page ==

I respectfully request the future link 'Vampire' not be included (hence my removing it upon its addition the first time) as Queen Vampire is my title and my vampire mythos varies greatly from most the common ones found. They are a part of my history and those of my offspring. I do not want them lumped into the typical vampire definition. Please allow that removal. I also wonder why you have insisted on a future link regarding my home. It has no reason to be listed at all, and I do not want it listed now or in the future.

Yours sincerely,
Lady Tabyathe Foxhampton

:Wikipedia links are provided more information interesting information to potential reader to peruse, and it doesn't have to be really related, but if the biology, lore and history of your species is quite distinct from the established vampyr/vampire mythology, I will make sure it is not linked now, or in future edits.

:As for [[Fox Manor]], being a Wiki devoted to anything furry related, any information, names, or locales are open to be expanded into future articles to provide, once again, a more broader, varied and informative view of Furry. If you don't wish to expand on this matter/subject, I can delete the link format at your request [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 04:05, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

==Yo==
Consider this me contacting you personally, since I can't find an email. This is [[Colley]]. I don't want my personal information on my wikifur page. Please remove it.
You have access to my livejournal if you need to contact me and verify this.{{unsigned|12.219.171.207}}

== Why do you want [[Colley]] to be harassed? ==

I can't think of any other reason why you'd disregard [http://colley.livejournal.com/479346.html his own statements about what he approves on his page] but insist on putting his real name there against his wishes and subsequently protecting it. That's rather hostile of you.

:His real name will be removed [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 04:30, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

:: Please also remove my name from drewkitty. If you insist on being tedious, please E-mail drewkitty@gmail.com and I will verify the removal. Otherwise I complain to other admins. 3 November 2007

::: The tone of your comment is unnecessary. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 01:19, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

:If he wanted his edits to be taken seriously, he should have made them under his own name and not have mixed them in with other edits adding stupidity to the page - no matter how much he "approves" of such edits. It is not reasonable to expect administrators to proactively check people's LiveJournals before reverting such nonsense. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 01:19, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

== I need help ==

Excuse me Mr. Spirou, why are all the external article of the [[Butch]] series requesting to be merged, I would agree that this would be a good idea for this, but the Butch article isn't made to have all the information on it, it's made to be a directional page for the other articles, not all he information is there and it's incomplete. - [[User:McBowser|McBowser]] 02:18, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

:Most webcomic articles have all the information that's currently fragmented across Wikifur under one entry (Comic, premise, characters, locations,...) In the current state, a reader would need to make several article jumps instead of finding all related information under one heading.

:As for length, currently all the articles related to this comic are under the "stub" size, so they could easily be assimilated under one entry. [[Sequential Art]] is an example of how to format a webcomic article for this Wiki - [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 04:19, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

::But i did that because, i didn't get any kind of replys when made the last comment, and the only time when i did get a response is after i deleted the tags. i took off the merge tab because, the articles they arn't finished and all the informatin hasn't been placed there yet, i went to most of the articles here that talked about web-comics and the reason they merged together is becase there doesn't seem to be that much information on it, it just lloks a few paragraphs telling the main idea and some synopsis notes. - [[User:McBowser|McBowser]] 04:52, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

== drewkitty ==

I hate to be rude. You can see clearly in my user page that I prefer to separate my personal and professional life.

Just so we're clear: http://drewkitty.livejournal.com/238637.html

You provide me with an E-mail address and I will send you a message to that effect. I note that *you* are anonymous.

I note further in your user talk page that you have been slow to respond to other reasonable requests to delete real names.

Don't motivate me to break your anonymity or to involve other admins.

-- drewkitty 3 November 2007

:Please do not threaten our administrators when you are asking us to do you a favour. We are willing to work with you on information that you consider personal as long as you are willing to work with us. A confrontational tone is not necessary or helpful.

:Also, a clarification - a user page is "your page", while [[Drewkitty]] is "the page about you". This might seem like quibbling over terms, but the difference is important, as you can see from, say, [[User:Colley]] and [[Colley]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 01:29, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

:: Respecting the privacy of persons who are not celebrities is not a favor, but a basic expectation of running a public service. While I disagree with your characterization of my comment above, feeling that turnabout is indeed fair play, I appreciate your team's prompt action on this issue and consider this matter closed. drewkitty 3 November 2007

User talk:GreenReaper

2007-11-04T00:25:26Z

76.200.190.189:

{{User talk:GreenReaper/Header}}
== ED ==

You added a link to the ED article on yourself... to your own page here?
I don't mean any offense or anything, it's just a little curious, since Encyclopedia Dramatica isn't really the most flattering site to be featured on... - [[User_talk:Saruuk|Saruuk]]

:No, [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=GreenReaper&diff=144814&oldid=144547 I didn't]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 17:09, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

== RBW event status ==

:''Regarding [[User talk:Foxberance#Convention vs. party vs. event]]''

As the main organizer for both the 2007 and 2008 RBW conventions i would like to point out that we ARE a convention.

We have in fact a number of specific tracks for fursuiting, spiritual Furs, art, and general entertainment. We also are based at two location. The 'Party' aspect being held on the boat on the Saturday evening along with the more traditional programming being held at the main venue throughout Saturday and Sunday. 2007 and 2008 have specific affiliated hotels to the convention. RBW as of 1st July will be a registered UK charity and LLP As myself (Foxb) and Rapido as the chairmen.

For 2008 we are holding the event at a major and yet to be disclosed venue in London across 4 days. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Foxberance|Foxberance]] ([[User talk:Foxberance|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Foxberance|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.

:I'd like to see what other people think of this, so I'll bring it up as a question on the [[Talk:Red Blue & White|appropriate talk page]]. I would note that there is no mention of a hotel on your website, and in fact the only thing it says about accommodation is that it is not provided as part of the registration. The term "track" is also generally used to refer to several things happening simultaneously in different locations rather than one after the other. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 07:38, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

==Newspaper Articles==
Hi GR. Just writing wondering if you can clarify the way articles on newspaper pieces should look?

Sine has gone and removed the italicization of the title from two entries I put in today: [[Lions and Tigers and Bears, Oh My‎]], [[March of the Furries]]. (I'd originally copied the format from an earlier article about a Denver Westword piece: [[Let's Pretend We're Bunny Rabbits]].)

Is Sine's way correct? (It seems to be, I think Sine is using an accepted style, but I thought I'd double-check before spending time going through the list of Media Coverage articles and standardizing them all - there are few in there that italicize the title).

Also, some articles on newspaper/magazine columns have the "(year) events" category whilst others don't. What's the correct thing here?
-- [[User:Higgs Raccoon|Higgs Raccoon]] 20:56, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

:I would generally agree with this. The titles of newspaper articles are typically encased in quotes if there is a need to offset them from the text. Given that they are already bolded (being the title of the page) this is probably not necessary. We would italicize the name of the publication.

:It's tempting to suggest that we should use [[:Category:News by date]] for this, but it's probably a good idea to keep the two concepts separate. We do have the [[Timeline of media coverage]] for non-furry media. I don't think the date categorization really adds much in this case, so it could be removed (they're not really an event). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 22:03, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

==Bad Redirect==

Hello. Using http://www.wikifur.com leads to the page http://furry.wikia.com/wiki , which is a 404 Not Found. Been like this for a few weeks I think, but not before. What's going on, I'm scared! -some furry

:Hi there! This is due to an upgrade which broke a couple of features, including the redirect from that address. I actually changed the redirect back when I found out this was happening, and it works fine for me, but it may well have been cached at your end. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 21:35, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

== Greetings From Halopedia! ==
''Greetings Sentient, The entity Saboteur and the entity Iratus have been been deleted. Make no further Contact, As their memory Matrix are now both mine and currently under Investigation. I am sorry this has caused you problems. Take care. 1707<Umbra>-Security A.I. of Halopedia''

Sorry for that, It's more for effect, anyways, down to buisness. I am aware You had 2 Users by the names of '''Saboteur''' and '''Iratus''', and that they both apparently vandalized pages of your Site. I Regret to inform You that these were both the same Person. And I know exactly who (I cannot say his name due to privacy rights). I work on Halopedia mostly at my school, and as a result, I had a bonehead who watched what I was doing. He did not like me much and as a result, created a account and vandalized my page. When we booted him, he must have moved onto you page and vandalized your files. (As why your Site, He hated anything that was not gangsta or of gangster style and just ran across your site.) I regret all that has happened and hope for the best the damage was minimal(May I ask How bad The Damage Was? He usually like rape,porn and sex related "Stuff"). If you wish to contact me, Leave a message on this site, or more preferably on Halopedia on the Userpage WRAITH as I will likely forget this site and you message! Anyways I lok forward to seeing you in the future and wish you the best of Luck.
Regards;
WRAITH-Halopedia Representitive

== WTF!?!? ==

You know, you've really demonstrated why I made the right choice to get the hell away from you furries.

I posted a warning about a person who vicitimized me, abused me, left me in a horrible financial situation, and even said he plans to kill someone, all of these FACTS, and you accuse me of attacking someone and delete the post, and don't even bother to contact me.

What the F*** is the matter with you?

Fine, to hell with you if you want to shield Siege, and let him continue to attack other furries. Your name will go down with a list of many others once Siege is put in jail for felony assault, fraud, domestic abuse and much more and the truth is known, the truth I am trying like hell to get out.

You can't imagine how pissed off this makes me feel. Every where I turn, there's Siege, lying, being protected, being allowed to, enabled, to abuse and possibly kill people because people like you can't have the common decency to check things out.

Why didn't I post proof? First, I didn't see a way to post images. Second, I can't legally post Siege's father's phone number. Third, I can't legally post the name of his employer so that that lie can be verified. Fourth, what the hell sense does it make for me to post the name and location of the person Siege has threatened to kill? What are you, f*ing stupid, or do you WANT to see him killed? Is that the only way you people will see the truth; or will you find some way to blame that on me too?

You know, its bad enough that Siege f*ed me over; took advantage of me, abused me, deprived me of my ability to finish college, much less survive; took away my ability to be financially independent (I'm disabled)...now I have to continue to be victimized by you, Maui, and all the other people who believe a sociopath over a victim.

I want you to do me, and yourself, and the furry community a HUGE f*ing favor. Try to imagine how I feel, what I"m going through...its quite easy, just pretend in that brain of yours, that what I said was all factual. If you can do that, if you can imagine what it was like for me, then you will understand how difficult it is to restrain myself from going totally off on you for this. {{unsignedIP|4.242.147.72}}

:What you posted was an essay, not an encyclopedia article. It was purely intended as an attack on the character of its subject and contained several unsubstantiated statements from your point of view. ''Regardless'' of whether or not it was true (something that none of us could have proved to our own satisfaction from the zero references given), it was not a good article. General policy in this case is to delete unsubstantiated attacks and stick with the bare minimum of facts that we can confirm. As none of it was referenced, the entire article was deleted (by [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=delete&user=&page=Siegewolf another administrator], I might add - but I do agree with him).

:WikiFur is not the court of Internets justice. Nor is it our job to "check things out". If you wish to make such statements on WikiFur, it is ''your'' job to provide us with all the sources necessary to do so without risk. If there is a serious problem then you should go to the real world police and talk to them - and any action that they take will provide a series of referencable documents that can be used in the construction of an article, if necessary. If you want to make an assertion of facts that you cannot provide third-party proof for then you should do so on your personal web page or journal. This is not the place for it, any more than an issue of Encyclopedia Brittanica would be the place to announce new research or accuse someone of corruption.

:Ultimately, we do not wish to be responsible for defaming someone. Unless what you say is true, defamation is exactly what your essay is, and we're not willing to take that risk just on your word. There is a big difference between saying "Person X says this" and "we say this" - and your essay was the latter. If we say bad things about someone, we must take reasonable care to assure their accuracy, and that is why we insist on references in such cases - so that we can attribute accusations and base our own statements on verifiable facts. Without such proof, we risk opening ourselves up to legal liability for publishing statements with reckless disregard as to whether or not they are true. See the bottom of [[Sibe]] for the level of referencing that is considered appropriate. That article is not perfect in other ways, but we are at least reasonably sure that the statements within it are accurate and that we won't get sued for it. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 07:42, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

:: It seems that he is throwing quite the temper tantrum in his LJ, too. [http://rex-beowulf.livejournal.com/138227.html] [http://rex-beowulf.livejournal.com/138302.html] --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 03:26, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

:::Well, is there a way we can calmly put some of that information out. Surely, he has screenshots of emails, chat logs and transcripts? - Shadow Hito

:::: Sure, if he posts them somewhere that we can cite in a reference. As it is, he's pretty much asking us to take his word for it. And that just won't fly for that sort of controversial material. --[[User:Dmuth|Douglas Muth]] 13:17, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

== WikiFur News ==

Despite the [http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Talk:Furry_fans_flock_to_Further_Confusion_2007 bashing] the [http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Furry_fans_flock_to_Further_Confusion_2007 last furry convention article] received, will you consider posting WikiFur News' reportage of Anthrocon to Wikinews? We're always looking for original reporting, especially from reporters who's writing is as strong and interesting as yours. -- [[User:Zanimum|Zanimum]] 19:49, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

: Sure, as long as Wikinews doesn't mind it going up here as well. I may decide to condense the end result somewhat for Wikinews, as I plan to make several shorter posts here as ongoing coverage. Others may also be writing about it, but [[WikiFur:WikiFur News|WikiFur News]] is [[WikiFur:Copyrights|dual-licensed CC-BY-2.5]] so there should be no problem with that. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 21:12, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

: Indeed, stories are [[News:Pittsburgh playwrights pen furry musical, invite Anthrocon attendees to observe reading|already in development]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 21:43, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

:: <s>Just thinking, you have to tell people WikiFur News contributors that any changes they make to your article on this site are co-licensed as CC-BY, not just the normal GFDL.</s> As soon as I typed that, I read about the dual licensing, that's great! I don't know why the Wikia default is GFDL, instead of Creative Commons, GFDL is such a weird license, since you technically have to reprint a whole three-page document with even just a sentence excerpted.

:: Yeah, whatever length or format you'd like.

:: I've published the article about the play, and tacked on a "in other news" bit from [[News:Anthrocon selects Animal Friends as 2007 charity|this article]], just to highlight the whole charitable element. Thanks! -- [[User:Zanimum|Zanimum]] 14:37, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

::: Hi, I've asked the anon on their talk page, about [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fursuit&diff=prev&oldid=131464305 this edit]. Hopefully they reply.

::: Great article on the con on Wikinews, I've reworded a little teeny bit here and there, and added a definition of what a fursuit is. (When I posted your play article, people were entirely dumbfounded what a furry is, which is I guess better than the default response so many have.

::: I've added Lucky Coyote's pic to the fursuit article on Wikipedia. Do you know Blondefoxy to any extent? Presumably she has no qualms against the picture use, however I had asked a few weeks ago if she'd release a picture of Lucky or Lucky + Skuffy(?) under a Creative Commons license for Wikipedia, no reply. I don't want to peave anyone off... -- [[User:Zanimum|Zanimum]] 16:18, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

::::Thanks for adding your clarification to [http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Anthrocon_2007_draws_thousands_to_Pittsburgh_for_furry_weekend the article]. Sometimes it's hard to know what things do or don't need further explaining in the body text (the article was already very long, so I was hesitant to put in much more exposition). I didn't know you posted the one about the play; I've added that to the related news section.

::::I must admit that I do not know Blondefoxy/[[Lucky Coyote|Lucky]] personally, and indeed I did not know that was another name of hers. Most fursuiters tend to be fairly happy about people showing off their costumes, though, and Lucky was one of those actively participating in group skits and posing for pictures. You could try the other contact details on her [http://bloody-kryptonite.deviantart.com/ deviantART account] if you really want to contact her about it. Oh, and her mate is [[Skuff Coyote]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 17:05, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

== Kalika Futago ==

The article for [[Kalika Futago]] needs to be renamed [[Kalika Tybera]]. She changed her furry name to reflect her marriage to her mate, Nace Tybera ([[BigKittyWolf]]). --[[User:Kitch|Kitch]] 22:08, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

:Looks like someone was watching. And thank you for your [[WikiFur:Ledger|recent donation]]! The WikiFur account was looking a little low after all of those Anthrocon purchases. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 22:18, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

==Question from RVDDP2501/possible new article==

Hey GreenReaper, listen, I'm sorry to bother you. I just found out on the internet about some new comic book from Image Comics called "The Astounding Wolf-Man", there is a rather small page about it on wikipedia.org. my question is should there be an article about it here as well, I've never asked about making a page here about something on wikipedia before so I'm not sure about my place here in asking this question or if there is even a need to make one, I just thought I'd ask considering the subject matter of the comic since it deals with well a werewolf. I hope I haven't bothered you with my (hopefully not a stupid) question, ok then, see ya and I look forward to your question - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 01:57, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

:Tricky question. I'm not sure there is a need, since it doesn't really seem all that furry to me. I could be wrong, but it seems to be more of a classical werewolf/vampire/creatures of the night thing. A reviewer [http://www.ifanboy.com/archive/weblog/ifanboy_preview.html didn't think much of it] on its giveaway in [[Wikipedia:Free Comic Book Day|Free Comic Book Day]]. Here's some [http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=11010 pictures from issue 2]. I'd personally give it a few more issues to see if it turns out to have any kind of a lasting impact, or starts to go beyond the "oh me, oh my, I'm a werewolf, I have super powers to do good and/or evil" genre. But that's just me. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 03:17, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

::Fair enough, I just thought I'd bring this to your attention :) - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 10:06, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

== Image replacement ==

You can delete [[:Image:Jtw-kitchshorts.jpg]]. It has been replaced. --[[User:Kitch|Kitch]] 22:27, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

== Wikipedia Extinctioners Page ==

Hey GreenReaper, I was wondering if I could ask your opinion or help on the Wikipedia Extinctioners page. The Page had a second deletion debate and survived but in the process, all links to the Wikifur page were removed, I was wondering what can be done, can a link to the main page be put back in the external links section? there was this huge wikifur link removal thing which I only heard bits and pieces about which I think was envolved with the links being removed. I would really like to put back the link since the wikifur article has much better coverage on the topic but I just don't know if doing so would restart the removal process or threaten my membership with wikipedia. What do you think I should do? Oh, here is the link to the question posted by Labfox - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Extinctioners#Wikifur_Link - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 21:26, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

:If you think a link is good you should put it back. If it gets taken out again, take it to the talk page. Nobody is going to ban you over that (at least not unless you keep doing it after being told not to by several people :-). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 03:04, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

== Request for blanking ==

I would like to ask if you could blank the page http://furry.wikia.com/wiki/Alvero

The thing is written totally by Mitch from Crushyiffdestroy and is all about the time they were harrassing me online, I didn't even know it was on here until today.

- [[User:Alvero|Alvero]]

:I will note your request on the [[Talk:Alvero|discussion page]], and if the consensus is to exclude then we will do so. Our general policy is to do so unless there is a good reason not to, and I don't immediately see one here, just a lot of drama over a single issue.

:(For what it's worth, if the story element you disliked had been included maliciously, I don't think the author would have gotten so angry about your accusation.) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 21:45, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

I second this vote —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:71.155.232.212|71.155.232.212]] ([[User talk:71.155.232.212|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/71.155.232.212|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.

:Umm, it's not really a vote, and it should be discussed [[Talk:Alvero|here]]. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 21:56, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

== 6-2-1 rule ==

I noticed you removed [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=6-2-1_rule&diff=150527&oldid=150492 this edit], and I was wondering why - do you know it to be false? --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 22:17, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

:Do we know it to be true? ;) Without a citation or even an edit summary, I'm loathe to assign a single creator to a term based on an anonymous edit. [[User:SpazKitty|Spaz Kitty]] 01:09, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
:Also, a bit of snooping into recent edits shows that the person named is the creator of the "new" 6-2-1 rule, not the original. The edit I reverted lists him as the creator of the original 6-2-1 rule. [[User:SpazKitty|Spaz Kitty]] 01:13, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

== Source? ==

First they came for the babyfurs, and I did not speak out, because I was not a babyfur.

Then they came for the plushies, and I did not speak out, because I was not a plushie.

Then they came for the balloonies, and I did not speak out, because I was not a balloonie.

Then they came for me . . . and there was no one left to speak out for me.

Where did the line "First they came for... and I did not speak out, because I was not a... Than they came for me...and there was no one left to speak out for me" line come from? [[User:Sirtim|Sirtim]] 12:16, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

:[[Wikipedia:Martin Niemöller|Martin Niemöller]]. See [[Wikipedia:First they came...]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 18:27, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

== Redirecting for my WIKIA ==

Hello GR i only asking a little question if i want redirecting for my wikia no.wow what should i do? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Zizanzu|Zizanzu]] ([[User talk:Zizanzu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Zizanzu|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.

:Not quite sure what you mean by "redirecting", other than <nowiki>#REDIRECT [[pagename]]</nowiki>, which you can't usually do interwiki. To link there, use something like <nowiki>[[w:c:no.wow:Klasse|Klasse]]</nowiki>. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 14:11, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

== Request from RVDDP2501 (New Category) ==

Hey GreenReaper, I'm sorry to bother you but I was wondering if you maybe able to do something for me, I was wondering if you could create a new category for the extinctioners characters, specifically those who have appeared/debuted in a side comic called "Artic Blue" in the Extinctioners universe. The characters who have or will appear are the [[Extinctioners#Fem_Fatales|Fem Fatales]], [[The Cerberus Brothers]], [[Vincent Blackphox]], [[Reggy Bryghttail]] and a few others who will come later. You can view these comics at the extinctioners website or on Shawntae's art pages at deviantart.com or furaffinity.net. So I guess the name of the category would be called Artic Blue comic characters or something along those lines, thank you and once again, I'm sorry to bother you with this, see ya :) - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 13:46, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

:The best title is probably [[:Category:Artic Blue characters]]. You could create that page and put <nowiki>[[Category:Extinctioners characters]]</nowiki> inside it, so that it is a subcategory. It is not necessary to have an administrator to do this, anyone can create categories. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 15:07, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

== Thank you ==

Thanks for your welcoming me, this is my first time in this kind of encyclopedical sites. - [[User:GatoGris|Gato Gris]]

== New User on Wiki ==

From Wynther Knight
About LXF

Hi there, thanks for letting me know someone is here to help. It's actually my time to do an article on an Wiki and I'm still trying to learn the ropes. Thanks for letting me know about the "show preview" button, as I still have toms of stuff to put in.

Thank you again :)

=="Not Certified = Not Artist?" News==
Just re-posting what I put in the talk section of that page, in case you didnt check: It's not personal drama any more than the "Krystal Meme". Trust me, this has effected a LOT of furaffinity members. I added it because I thought people out of the know needed a place to find out what was going on without having to wait for the monstrous page to load, or hear about it from biased, or angered sources. It has already reached LiveJournal and EncyclopediaDramatica, a place I doubt one can find unbiased furry news. It has spawned numerous pictures of its own, but no, lol, it hasnt necessarily caught the newsworthy eye of Vinci and Arty..-- [[User:AnonIhmus|AnonIhmus]]([[Usertalk:AnonIhmus|talk]])

This matters to a lot of people and affects a lot of people from the site, but whatever..Take it down, I dont give a shit.
My links did work, btw.

Not that it matters, but just fyi- this effected at least a thousand people, not one. I kinda said before it effected a lot of people, not just the journal poster, but people who saw it, people who heard about it and so on...It also made its way into 2 The Ranting Gryphon's show. ~Anon Ihmus

== Question ==

Hey GreenReaper, sorry to bother you but I was wondering if I could ask your opinion and help with something, I am in the process of creating a character page for a character who will soon appear in the Extinctioners Artic Blue Webcomic called "Neige Unuulaq (Frostbite)" who was originally created by [[Rei Vegan]], my question is in regards to an image created by Rei Vegan, a model/reference sheet for Frostbite - http://www.furaffinity.net/view/427311/ - Rei Vegan has given me permission to create the character page as well as use this reference sheet in the page but what do I do about the licencing info, do I need to get a licence from wikifur to use art by Rei Vagen? - [[User:RVDDP2501|RVDDP2501]] 03:07, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

:You can upload it and say on the image page that Rei has given WikiFur permission to host the image, as long as Rei has told you that this is the case. If you say on the page that you have acquired a particular permission, we will generally take your word for it. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 03:22, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

== Speedy Deletion Question ==

Is it appropriate to mark outdated images of your own fursona for speedy deletion? Thought I'd check before I got myself into trouble ;) --[[User:Tikuko|Tikuko]] 18:25, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

:No, that's fine. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 18:31, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

::As in it's allowed? --[[User:Tikuko|Tikuko]] 18:40, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

:::Yes. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 19:01, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

== [[Wolves' Paradise]] Encyclopedia ==
Wolves' Paradise has set up a ''[http://wolfbbs.net/wiki/ Paradise Encyclopedia]'' that you can take a look at it. However it's license is CC-by-nd-sa(!) so it is impossible to share content between WPE and WikiFur. --<ruby><rb lang="ja">[[User:NekoYasha|猫夜叉]]</rb><rp>「</rp><rt style="font-size:6pt">NekoYasha</rt><rp>」</rp></ruby>([[User_talk:NekoYasha|talk]]) 03:33, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

== Tales from the Reservation ==
Saw what you did on TFTR & AJA pages....

Thanks! :D Now comes the fun part - re-reading and providing a better description of the story(as well as figuring out how to scan it in as a PDF without having each part be over 17MB in size :)) ).

[[User:69.95.242.1|69.95.242.1]] 12:59, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

== Carpe Diem ==
I'm flattered that Carpe Diem got the featured comic of the week/day/whatever. I also saw the new page, and was more flattered that someone took the time to do all that. I'll probably be adding to it, but I just wanted to say thanks. It made my day. :)

[[User:GraveyardGreg|Graveyard Greg]]

September 25, 2007

:No problem, and thanks for your additions. It always helps to get an authoritative source of information involved. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 01:33, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

== i need help!! ==

Im trying to post my personal furrie story background and go into detail about my fursona... but ive never done this before on any willi site... IM LOST can u help me?? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Roxwood|Roxwood]] ([[User talk:Roxwood|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Roxwood|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.

:You've got the right page at [[Roxwood]]. I'll go through and tidy things up a bit. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 07:29, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

HOw exactally would i be able to do that??

i think im ok for now..... any suggestions please PLEASE enlighten me... im really new at this an appreciate the help

:My main suggestion is to look at all of the [[help]] pages, both on syntax and on how to write good articles. You might also want to check out some of the [[WikiFur:Featured articles/Complete|featured articles]] to see how good articles are written and presented (click the '''bold''' links on that page for the full articles). Obviously, most articles about people are unlikely to be featured, because there's only so much you can say about one person, but it's a target. :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 07:48, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

== "See also" Re: "How To Be a Furry" ==

"''It is a WikiFur article''". Yes, but don't we follow that "See also"s links should be reserved to "related" Wikifur articles?; In this case, [[Crush! Yiff! Destroy!]], [[LOLfurries]] and [[Furfags.com]] are "related" due to their purpose and function; on the [[Drama]] article, [[Fursecution]] and [[Schadenfreude]] are "related" on the "See also" for their meaning and intent; On the [[Anthropomorphic]] article, etc, etc,..

Right now, [[How To Be a Furry]] is the odd man out on a "See also" that lists related web sites with this type of content, hence the "See also"s directs to '''related''' Wikifur/Wikipedia/Wiki articles and entries only''. Didn't say it was not a Wikifur article, just that needed to be "related." [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 03:03, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

: I placed [[How To Be a Furry]] under CYD's "See Also:" because CYD hosts the main online version of the article, and it's a satire article about furry drama and the [[furry fandom]] in general, which is certainly in CYD's domain. If CYD thought the work fit their motives enough to be hosted on their site, then that's related enough to CYD for my tastes. [[User:Jigsaw Forte|Jigsaw Forte]] 03:29, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

::CYD hosts a plethora a articles, images and miscellany in the vein of "How To Be a Furry." Adding all of them would just cluttered the "See also," or just having this article listed on the SE, and not the rest would seem to be favoritism. The CYD article could mentioned "How To Be a Furry" on the article itself, as a solution, which I can quickly edit in right now to see how it would look [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 03:37, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
::: Fair enough; CYD article looks fine with it in, and association is still made between the two articles. That should work. [[User:Jigsaw Forte|Jigsaw Forte]] 03:48, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

::::Aye. By the by, not antagonism was intended when I pointed out and made the first edit on your addition, just trying to follow the Wiki's ways of data presentation and formatting (which I still stumble over from time to time) =) [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 03:54, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

== Thanks for noticing, ==

I just added a little bit of information to the [[MewYear]] page.
I might add some more at a later time if some hasn`t done it by then already. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:O kill|O kill]] ([[User talk:O kill|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/O kill|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.

== Strange layout issue ==

Hi GreenReaper,
I've just been tinkering with the [[Furfire]] article which for some very odd and unusual reason was causing the entire Wiki CSS layout to collapse in a rather horrible way (See [http://users.bigpond.net.au/coles/Data/strangelayout.png image]). The strange thing is that it only seems that it only affected the most recent revision of the article despite there being the same markup in the article. (I originally noticed something wrong with [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Furfire&oldid=167083 rev. 167083] but when I look at it in the history the layout appears to be just fine.

The bit of markup that I believe to be possibly suspect is:

<code><nowiki><div style="float:right">__TOC__</div></nowiki></code>

Once I removed this it appeared to come good. Does this make any sense to you why this would happen? I even dropped over to IE7 just in case my version of Firefox was on the fritz, but it persisted there too.

It looks like it's fixed now - but I still feel that that was really quite odd. -[[User:Composingliger|Composingliger]] 14:39, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

:This is due to a problem with the cached version of such pages when edited by either anonymous users or users with the wikiwyg system turned on, which incorporates additional markup into the page. The root cause is that it encloses things in a span and half of the div is within the span. I had hoped they would have fixed this by now, but it appears not. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 15:16, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
::Alright, in that case I guess there's not all that much more that can be done that hasn't already been fixed. Thanks for the clarification. -[[User:Composingliger|Composingliger]] 15:31, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

== Request for complete removal ==

Hi Green.

For personal reasons, I wish to have [[Quilrynn]] and all revisions of that article purged from the database and have it protected with the exclusion notice.

Also, I would like [[Moeryl]] to be excluded as well. --[[User:JKM]], 10/27/2007, 11:05 CDT

FYI: I left messages for Spirou to stop reversing the removal of my real name as a pointer to my wikifur entry.

See http://drewkitty.livejournal.com/238637.html for verification.

If you feel comfortable taking care of this yourself, please do. I don't have confidence that he will without drama.

Thanks.

-- drewkitty(at gmail d0t c0m)

User talk:Spirou

2007-11-04T00:19:16Z

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== Berios ==

Did you mean to leave [[Berios]] blank? Or should it be protected-excluded? --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 20:11, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
:Protected-excluded, but Safari is not formating the post right. It shows as intended on preview, but not when I save it. If you could fix it I would appreciate it [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 23:39, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
::The user contacted me via IM and asked that his paged be removed, and that the link between his RL name and fursona/character be broken. I deleted the [[Berios]] page and protected-excluded his RL name. I'm not sure what the precedent is for this but as long as the link isn't immediately obvious I think we will have satisfied the request. [[User:Simba B|Simba B]] 20:37, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Understood, But "Berios" (the name,) is a bit linked to the history of fandom, and deleting it outright would red-link possible present/future entries connections (attendances, contributions, etc...). That's why I undeleted it, killed the redirect to the person's name, and tried to "protect-excluded" (emphasis on "tried".)
:::Should be fined as long as his RL name is not connected to this alias in any article. [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 23:39, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

== Vorderman Post ==

Hi Spirou Can i please have some clarification if a factual event that happned at EF13 warents a post on wikifur. As southpaw is pretty adiment that it is not witin guidelines for Wikifur (Sorry My first article so its going to be a mess!)

Reasons that i think it deserved a post was that around 80% of the con actualy was into it at one point. The dance floor errupting and a few of the orginazers such as cheetah and uncle kage got in on the act. A lot of furrs have since asked "what was it all about" {{unsigned|WolfieUk|20:34, 12 September 2007 (UTC)}}

:No problem. As it stands, the entry is about a very localized, spur of the moment, event that, all thought occurring in a furry convention and propagated by furs, it (at this time,) doesn't stand out, or being furry common enough, to warrant it's own entry (vs something like [[Krystal can't enjoy her sandwich]], which, all though quick and new, it crossed all layers of furry fandom very quickly in a popular fashion with a lot of people, enough to be noteworthy.)

:It could be, instead of putting up to discuss its appropriateness as a standalone Wikifur article, merged as a section on the [[Eurofurence 13]] article, as Rat has already suggested to do [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 23:39, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

== Homestead? ==

Back in 2005 [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Whelpday&diff=20079&oldid=14810 one of your additions to Whelpday included “The Homestead”]. Was that Homestead a role-play section of alt.lifestyle.furry or the Homestead LJ? --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 22:20, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

The "Homestead" as [[Alt.lifestyle.furry|ALF]] is referred as sometimes =) [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 04:40, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

== User:74.15.21.167 ==

After reviewing the [[Special:Contributions/74.15.21.167|recent edits]] by this anonymous user, it is not obvious to me like they were acts of vandalism/bad faith. Questionable, perhaps, but possibly worthy of further discussion before taking action against this user. Are you familiar enough with the subject matter of the articles edited to be able to say otherwise? --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 18:07, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

:No, it wasn't actually the initial edits that made me reverse the changes, but the final two touches of taking out the contributor template ("uh?, why?",) and the little tweak on the Road Rover article (cute.) Not precisely nice final touches to try to seriously assert your prior arguments/edits [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 18:23, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

== Wiki-style Disagreement ==

I prefer dictionary-tabbing out segments versus making sub-segments, especially when the topics covered are short enough that they could be covered in a bulleted list (not to mention it causes that ugly Table Of Contents to show up, which is really unnecessary when we're discussing many short definitions). I consider it more 'wiki-like' in making sure the content is not obscured by needless details, and in this case your changes are the equivalent of a ten-pound parcel for a ten-ounce cargo.

I would really rather you leave my edits in that regard alone. I don't mind content being corrected, but the 'many small segments' appearance really bothers me, unless you intend on expanding each of the segments in [[How To Be a Furry]] out into sizable enough portions to be worth the alteration fairly soon. [[User:Jigsaw Forte|Jigsaw Forte]] 03:40, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

:Actually, it has nothing to do with the type of edit you prefer, instead of more on the formatting that Wikifur generally uses ([[Help:Furry_Book_of_Style]].) Not ribbing, or trying to get your goat, or, simply, "f**** with you," really, just following old formatting rules, which there are a few I also feel should be changed to be more pleasing looking. If you feel the type of format you're using could help enhance articles, please, do put the discussion forth =)

:In the mean time, no malice was intended with the formatting of the article [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 03:50, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

== Revert ==

Why did you revert [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=DrGamez&diff=166253&oldid=166215 this]? It's not really nice to have lots of unsourced rumors on an article about a real person. [[User:Hendrik18|Hendrik18]] 16:20, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

:Such list was not taken out, even when its user made edits to [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=DrGamez&direction=next&oldid=64175 it], which either means that (A) they were written by him or (B) he didn't have a problem with them. That's why the revert,...

:But, looking at it again, even if the reasons listed above are correct, this kind of fluff writing belongs in the contributor's user page, which does have the same [http://furry.wikia.com/wiki/User:DrGamez list] anyways, so re-reverting to your edit after all [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 22:13, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

== My personal page ==

I respectfully request the future link 'Vampire' not be included (hence my removing it upon its addition the first time) as Queen Vampire is my title and my vampire mythos varies greatly from most the common ones found. They are a part of my history and those of my offspring. I do not want them lumped into the typical vampire definition. Please allow that removal. I also wonder why you have insisted on a future link regarding my home. It has no reason to be listed at all, and I do not want it listed now or in the future.

Yours sincerely,
Lady Tabyathe Foxhampton

:Wikipedia links are provided more information interesting information to potential reader to peruse, and it doesn't have to be really related, but if the biology, lore and history of your species is quite distinct from the established vampyr/vampire mythology, I will make sure it is not linked now, or in future edits.

:As for [[Fox Manor]], being a Wiki devoted to anything furry related, any information, names, or locales are open to be expanded into future articles to provide, once again, a more broader, varied and informative view of Furry. If you don't wish to expand on this matter/subject, I can delete the link format at your request [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 04:05, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

==Yo==
Consider this me contacting you personally, since I can't find an email. This is [[Colley]]. I don't want my personal information on my wikifur page. Please remove it.
You have access to my livejournal if you need to contact me and verify this.{{unsigned|12.219.171.207}}

== Why do you want [[Colley]] to be harassed? ==

I can't think of any other reason why you'd disregard [http://colley.livejournal.com/479346.html his own statements about what he approves on his page] but insist on putting his real name there against his wishes and subsequently protecting it. That's rather hostile of you.

:His real name will be removed [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 04:30, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

:: Please also remove my name from drewkitty. If you insist on being tedious, please E-mail drewkitty@gmail.com and I will verify the removal. Otherwise I complain to other admins. 3 November 2007

== I need help ==

Excuse me Mr. Spirou, why are all the external article of the [[Butch]] series requesting to be merged, I would agree that this would be a good idea for this, but the Butch article isn't made to have all the information on it, it's made to be a directional page for the other articles, not all he information is there and it's incomplete. - [[User:McBowser|McBowser]] 02:18, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

:Most webcomic articles have all the information that's currently fragmented across Wikifur under one entry (Comic, premise, characters, locations,...) In the current state, a reader would need to make several article jumps instead of finding all related information under one heading.

:As for length, currently all the articles related to this comic are under the "stub" size, so they could easily be assimilated under one entry. [[Sequential Art]] is an example of how to format a webcomic article for this Wiki - [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 04:19, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

::But i did that because, i didn't get any kind of replys when made the last comment, and the only time when i did get a response is after i deleted the tags. i took off the merge tab because, the articles they arn't finished and all the informatin hasn't been placed there yet, i went to most of the articles here that talked about web-comics and the reason they merged together is becase there doesn't seem to be that much information on it, it just lloks a few paragraphs telling the main idea and some synopsis notes. - [[User:McBowser|McBowser]] 04:52, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

== drewkitty ==

I hate to be rude. You can see clearly in my user page that I prefer to separate my personal and professional life.

Just so we're clear: http://drewkitty.livejournal.com/238637.html

You provide me with an E-mail address and I will send you a message to that effect. I note that *you* are anonymous.

I note further in your user talk page that you have been slow to respond to other reasonable requests to delete real names.

Don't motivate me to break your anonymity or to involve other admins.

-- drewkitty 3 November 2007

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== Berios ==

Did you mean to leave [[Berios]] blank? Or should it be protected-excluded? --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 20:11, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
:Protected-excluded, but Safari is not formating the post right. It shows as intended on preview, but not when I save it. If you could fix it I would appreciate it [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 23:39, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
::The user contacted me via IM and asked that his paged be removed, and that the link between his RL name and fursona/character be broken. I deleted the [[Berios]] page and protected-excluded his RL name. I'm not sure what the precedent is for this but as long as the link isn't immediately obvious I think we will have satisfied the request. [[User:Simba B|Simba B]] 20:37, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Understood, But "Berios" (the name,) is a bit linked to the history of fandom, and deleting it outright would red-link possible present/future entries connections (attendances, contributions, etc...). That's why I undeleted it, killed the redirect to the person's name, and tried to "protect-excluded" (emphasis on "tried".)
:::Should be fined as long as his RL name is not connected to this alias in any article. [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 23:39, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

== Vorderman Post ==

Hi Spirou Can i please have some clarification if a factual event that happned at EF13 warents a post on wikifur. As southpaw is pretty adiment that it is not witin guidelines for Wikifur (Sorry My first article so its going to be a mess!)

Reasons that i think it deserved a post was that around 80% of the con actualy was into it at one point. The dance floor errupting and a few of the orginazers such as cheetah and uncle kage got in on the act. A lot of furrs have since asked "what was it all about" {{unsigned|WolfieUk|20:34, 12 September 2007 (UTC)}}

:No problem. As it stands, the entry is about a very localized, spur of the moment, event that, all thought occurring in a furry convention and propagated by furs, it (at this time,) doesn't stand out, or being furry common enough, to warrant it's own entry (vs something like [[Krystal can't enjoy her sandwich]], which, all though quick and new, it crossed all layers of furry fandom very quickly in a popular fashion with a lot of people, enough to be noteworthy.)

:It could be, instead of putting up to discuss its appropriateness as a standalone Wikifur article, merged as a section on the [[Eurofurence 13]] article, as Rat has already suggested to do [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 23:39, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

== Homestead? ==

Back in 2005 [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Whelpday&diff=20079&oldid=14810 one of your additions to Whelpday included “The Homestead”]. Was that Homestead a role-play section of alt.lifestyle.furry or the Homestead LJ? --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 22:20, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

The "Homestead" as [[Alt.lifestyle.furry|ALF]] is referred as sometimes =) [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 04:40, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

== User:74.15.21.167 ==

After reviewing the [[Special:Contributions/74.15.21.167|recent edits]] by this anonymous user, it is not obvious to me like they were acts of vandalism/bad faith. Questionable, perhaps, but possibly worthy of further discussion before taking action against this user. Are you familiar enough with the subject matter of the articles edited to be able to say otherwise? --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 18:07, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

:No, it wasn't actually the initial edits that made me reverse the changes, but the final two touches of taking out the contributor template ("uh?, why?",) and the little tweak on the Road Rover article (cute.) Not precisely nice final touches to try to seriously assert your prior arguments/edits [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 18:23, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

== Wiki-style Disagreement ==

I prefer dictionary-tabbing out segments versus making sub-segments, especially when the topics covered are short enough that they could be covered in a bulleted list (not to mention it causes that ugly Table Of Contents to show up, which is really unnecessary when we're discussing many short definitions). I consider it more 'wiki-like' in making sure the content is not obscured by needless details, and in this case your changes are the equivalent of a ten-pound parcel for a ten-ounce cargo.

I would really rather you leave my edits in that regard alone. I don't mind content being corrected, but the 'many small segments' appearance really bothers me, unless you intend on expanding each of the segments in [[How To Be a Furry]] out into sizable enough portions to be worth the alteration fairly soon. [[User:Jigsaw Forte|Jigsaw Forte]] 03:40, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

:Actually, it has nothing to do with the type of edit you prefer, instead of more on the formatting that Wikifur generally uses ([[Help:Furry_Book_of_Style]].) Not ribbing, or trying to get your goat, or, simply, "f**** with you," really, just following old formatting rules, which there are a few I also feel should be changed to be more pleasing looking. If you feel the type of format you're using could help enhance articles, please, do put the discussion forth =)

:In the mean time, no malice was intended with the formatting of the article [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 03:50, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

== Revert ==

Why did you revert [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=DrGamez&diff=166253&oldid=166215 this]? It's not really nice to have lots of unsourced rumors on an article about a real person. [[User:Hendrik18|Hendrik18]] 16:20, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

:Such list was not taken out, even when its user made edits to [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=DrGamez&direction=next&oldid=64175 it], which either means that (A) they were written by him or (B) he didn't have a problem with them. That's why the revert,...

:But, looking at it again, even if the reasons listed above are correct, this kind of fluff writing belongs in the contributor's user page, which does have the same [http://furry.wikia.com/wiki/User:DrGamez list] anyways, so re-reverting to your edit after all [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 22:13, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

== My personal page ==

I respectfully request the future link 'Vampire' not be included (hence my removing it upon its addition the first time) as Queen Vampire is my title and my vampire mythos varies greatly from most the common ones found. They are a part of my history and those of my offspring. I do not want them lumped into the typical vampire definition. Please allow that removal. I also wonder why you have insisted on a future link regarding my home. It has no reason to be listed at all, and I do not want it listed now or in the future.

Yours sincerely,
Lady Tabyathe Foxhampton

:Wikipedia links are provided more information interesting information to potential reader to peruse, and it doesn't have to be really related, but if the biology, lore and history of your species is quite distinct from the established vampyr/vampire mythology, I will make sure it is not linked now, or in future edits.

:As for [[Fox Manor]], being a Wiki devoted to anything furry related, any information, names, or locales are open to be expanded into future articles to provide, once again, a more broader, varied and informative view of Furry. If you don't wish to expand on this matter/subject, I can delete the link format at your request [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 04:05, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

==Yo==
Consider this me contacting you personally, since I can't find an email. This is [[Colley]]. I don't want my personal information on my wikifur page. Please remove it.
You have access to my livejournal if you need to contact me and verify this.{{unsigned|12.219.171.207}}

== Why do you want [[Colley]] to be harassed? ==

I can't think of any other reason why you'd disregard [http://colley.livejournal.com/479346.html his own statements about what he approves on his page] but insist on putting his real name there against his wishes and subsequently protecting it. That's rather hostile of you.

:His real name will be removed [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 04:30, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

:: Please also remove my name from drewkitty. If you insist on being tedious, please E-mail drewkitty@gmail.com and I will verify the removal. Otherwise I complain to other admins. 3 November 2007

== I need help ==

Excuse me Mr. Spirou, why are all the external article of the [[Butch]] series requesting to be merged, I would agree that this would be a good idea for this, but the Butch article isn't made to have all the information on it, it's made to be a directional page for the other articles, not all he information is there and it's incomplete. - [[User:McBowser|McBowser]] 02:18, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

:Most webcomic articles have all the information that's currently fragmented across Wikifur under one entry (Comic, premise, characters, locations,...) In the current state, a reader would need to make several article jumps instead of finding all related information under one heading.

:As for length, currently all the articles related to this comic are under the "stub" size, so they could easily be assimilated under one entry. [[Sequential Art]] is an example of how to format a webcomic article for this Wiki - [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 04:19, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

::But i did that because, i didn't get any kind of replys when made the last comment, and the only time when i did get a response is after i deleted the tags. i took off the merge tab because, the articles they arn't finished and all the informatin hasn't been placed there yet, i went to most of the articles here that talked about web-comics and the reason they merged together is becase there doesn't seem to be that much information on it, it just lloks a few paragraphs telling the main idea and some synopsis notes. - [[User:McBowser|McBowser]] 04:52, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

== drewkitty ==

I hate to be rude. You can see clearly in my user page that I prefer to separate my personal and professional life.

You provide me with an E-mail address and I will send you a message to that effect. I note that *you* are anonymous.

I note further in your user talk page that you have been slow to respond to other reasonable requests to delete real names.

Don't motivate me to break your anonymity or to involve other admins.

-- drewkitty 3 November 2007

User talk:76.200.190.189

2007-11-04T00:13:14Z

76.200.190.189: /* message to Spirou re: edit reversals */

Hello. Regarding your blanking on the "XXXXX XXXX" redirects, if you are the person in question you may request exclusion to one of the Wiki's sysops via a verifiable email. Blanking via third party, specially via IP editing, is not permitted due to present and past anon IP vandalism [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 12:07, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

I hate to be rude. You can see clearly in my user page that I prefer to separate my personal and professional life.

You provide me with an E-mail address and I will send you a message to that effect. I note that *you* are anonymous.

I note further in your user talk page that you have been slow to respond to other reasonable requests to delete real names.

Don't motivate me to break your anonymity or to involve other admins.

-- drewkitty 3 November 2007

Talk:Drewkitty

2007-11-04T00:08:07Z

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I find it necessary to request that this page be protected from editing. I do not wish my personal and professional life to be mixed. Questions may be directed to drewkitty@gmail.com

Califur

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'''Califur''' is a [[convention]] that succeeded the long-running [[ConFurence]] as the annual furry event of [[Wikipedia:Southern California|Southern California]]. Califur is organized by [[FENEC Adventures]]. Related events include [[Califur Train]], and [[Califur Diego]]. Attendance has grown from 328 persons in the first year to 496 as of 2007.

==Origin of FENEC and Califur==
FENEC ("Furries Enjoying the Natural Environments of California") was conceived by [[Alohawolf|Robert "Alohawolf" Johnson Jr.]], [[Dawn Britt]], and [[Dennis Carr]] with the initial idea of having a furry-themed campout. While riding home from the southern California [[FurBQ]], Dawn had commented to Dennis and his wife, Karmin, about the lack of other camping events such as [[Feral!]] in Southern California. Dennis pointed this out while chatting on the [[Furnet]] IRC Network, and Robert took charge from there.

As the campout was being planned, additional staffers including [[Glen Wooten]], [[Zee|Zsanene "Zee" Stevens]], [[Trapa|Tank "Trapa" Winters]], [[Drew kitty|"Drew kitty"]] along with ConFurence co-founders [[Mark Merlino]] and [[Rod O'Riley]] were brought on board. With the demise of ConFurence in 2003, Mark and Robert expressed a desire to see a regional convention maintained in Southern California. The decision was made in early autumn of 2003 to plan a traditional hotel-based convention to succeed [[ConFurence 2003]] with [[Califur 0]] the following year.

==History==
====[[Califur 0]]====
[[Image:califur0.gif|right|Califur 0]]
The first Califur was held May 28-30, 2004 at the [http://www.atriumhotel.com/ Atrium Hotel] in [[Wikipedia:Irvine, California|Irvine, California]]. Though original expectations were modest, this inaugural dry run had an unexpected 328 attendees, over five times that of [[Confurence 0]].

Between 2004 and 2005, there were many staffing changes, but significant growth was achieved in both room registrations and attendance.

====[[Califur 1]]====
[[Image:Califur1banner.gif|right|Califur 1]]
The second Califur was held May 20-22, 2005 with an island theme and had 383 attendees at [http://www.hicostamesa.com/ The Holiday Inn] in [[Wikipedia:Costa Mesa, California|Costa Mesa, California]], a 15% gain over the previous year.

After 2005, there were some minor staff changes, with [[TigerEyes|Zsanene "TigerEyes" Stevens]] being selected by the FENEC board to succeed original Califur founder [[AlohaWolf|Robert "Alohawolf" Johnson Jr.]] as the new [[convention chairman|chairperson]].

====[[Califur 2]]====
[[Image:califur2.gif|right|Califur 2]]
The third Califur was held May 5-7, 2006 with a pirate theme and had 434 attendees at the same location as the previous year.

====[[Califur 3]]====
[[Image:califur3.jpg|right|200px|Califur 3]]
The fourth Califur was held May 4-6, 2007 and had 496 registered attendees at the same location as Califur 1 and 2. The theme was "Our Favorite Furry Villains" (Scar, Professor Ratigan, Don Karnage, Jack Salem, Bun Bun, and many more). The Artist Guests of Honor were [[Balaa]] and [[Roz Gibson]], and the Musical Guest of Honor was [[Marc Gunn]] (creator of ''Irish Drinking Songs for Cat Lovers''). The 2006 [[Ursa Major Awards]] was held on the opening night of the convention. [[Dealers Den]] spaces were sold out at least a month before the event, indicating that the con had again outgrown its venue.

====[[Califur 4]]====
[[Image:califur4.jpg|right|200px|Califur 4]]
The fifth Califur is being planned for May 15-18, 2008 at the [http://irvine.hyatt.com/ Hyatt Regency] in Irvine, California. The steampunk theme was announced on the last day of Califur 3.

==Related events==
====[[Califur Train]]====
A train trip has been organized each May by co-chair Trapa to help [[Wikipedia:Vancouver|Vancouver]] and [[Wikipedia:Seattle, Washington|Seattle]] area furries make the long journey to Califur in Southern California.

====[[Califur Diego]]====
Califur Diego is "a [[furry artist]] reception" held during the annual [[Comic-Con International]] in [[Wikipedia:San Diego, California|San Diego, California]]. This [[furmeet]] was inspired by the now-defunct [[CritterConDiego]] which also scheduled its events in the evening after the Comic-Con dealer rooms were closed. It was most recently held on July 22, 2006 at the [http://www.hortongrand.com/ Horton Grand Hotel]. It is next scheduled to be held on July 27-28, 2007.

==External links==
{{WikiFurNews|Califur 2007 schedule finalized, including the Ursa Major Awards}}
*[http://www.califur.com/ Califur Official Website]
*[http://forum.califur.com/ Califur Forums]
*[http://community.livejournal.com/califur/ Califur community] on [[LiveJournal]]
*[http://groups.yahoo.com/group/califur/ Califur Yahoo! group]
*{{con resources}}

[[Category:Conventions]]
[[Category:California]]
[[Category:2004 births]]
[[fr:Califur]]
{{featured article}}

WikiFur:This week's featured article/Week 29, 2007

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[[Image:Califur2.gif|right|Califur's 2006 Logo]]
'''[[Califur]]''' is a [[convention]] that succeeded the long-running [[ConFurence]] as the annual furry event of [[Wikipedia:Southern California|Southern California]]. Califur is organized by [[FENEC Adventures]]. Related events include [[Califur Train]], and [[Califur Diego]]. Attendance has grown from 328 in 2004 to 496 as of 2007.

FENEC ("Furries Enjoying the Natural Environments of California") was conceived by [[Alohawolf]], [[Dawn Britt]], and [[Dennis Carr]] with the initial idea of having a furry-themed campout. While riding home from the southern California [[FurBQ]], Dawn commented to Dennis and his wife, Karmin, about the lack of other camping events such as [[Feral!]] in Southern California. Dennis pointed this out while chatting on the [[Furnet]] IRC Network, and Robert took charge from there.

As the campout was being planned, additional staffers including [[Glen Wooten]], [[Zee|Zsanene "Zee" Stevens]], [[Trapa|Tank "Trapa" Winters]], [[Drew kitty|"Drew kitty"]] along with ConFurence co-founders [[Mark Merlino]] and [[Rod O'Riley]] were brought on board. With the demise of ConFurence in 2003, Mark and Robert expressed a desire to see a regional convention maintained in Southern California. The decision was made in early autumn of 2003 to plan a traditional hotel-based convention to succeed [[ConFurence 2003]] with [[Califur 0]] the following year. ('''[[Califur|more...]]''')

Talk:Andrew clark

2007-11-04T00:03:18Z

76.200.190.189: New page: This quote is from spirou's userpage I can't think of any other reason why you'd disregard his own statements about what he approves on his page but insist on putting his real name there ...

This quote is from spirou's userpage

I can't think of any other reason why you'd disregard his own statements about what he approves on his page but insist on putting his real name there against his wishes and subsequently protecting it. That's rather hostile of you.

His real name will be removed Spirou 04:30, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Please also remove my name from drewkitty. If you insist on being tedious, please E-mail drewkitty@gmail.com and I will verify the removal. Otherwise I complain to other admins. 3 November 2007

Talk:Andrew Clark

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== Berios ==

Did you mean to leave [[Berios]] blank? Or should it be protected-excluded? --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 20:11, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
:Protected-excluded, but Safari is not formating the post right. It shows as intended on preview, but not when I save it. If you could fix it I would appreciate it [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 23:39, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
::The user contacted me via IM and asked that his paged be removed, and that the link between his RL name and fursona/character be broken. I deleted the [[Berios]] page and protected-excluded his RL name. I'm not sure what the precedent is for this but as long as the link isn't immediately obvious I think we will have satisfied the request. [[User:Simba B|Simba B]] 20:37, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Understood, But "Berios" (the name,) is a bit linked to the history of fandom, and deleting it outright would red-link possible present/future entries connections (attendances, contributions, etc...). That's why I undeleted it, killed the redirect to the person's name, and tried to "protect-excluded" (emphasis on "tried".)
:::Should be fined as long as his RL name is not connected to this alias in any article. [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 23:39, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

== Vorderman Post ==

Hi Spirou Can i please have some clarification if a factual event that happned at EF13 warents a post on wikifur. As southpaw is pretty adiment that it is not witin guidelines for Wikifur (Sorry My first article so its going to be a mess!)

Reasons that i think it deserved a post was that around 80% of the con actualy was into it at one point. The dance floor errupting and a few of the orginazers such as cheetah and uncle kage got in on the act. A lot of furrs have since asked "what was it all about" {{unsigned|WolfieUk|20:34, 12 September 2007 (UTC)}}

:No problem. As it stands, the entry is about a very localized, spur of the moment, event that, all thought occurring in a furry convention and propagated by furs, it (at this time,) doesn't stand out, or being furry common enough, to warrant it's own entry (vs something like [[Krystal can't enjoy her sandwich]], which, all though quick and new, it crossed all layers of furry fandom very quickly in a popular fashion with a lot of people, enough to be noteworthy.)

:It could be, instead of putting up to discuss its appropriateness as a standalone Wikifur article, merged as a section on the [[Eurofurence 13]] article, as Rat has already suggested to do [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 23:39, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

== Homestead? ==

Back in 2005 [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=Whelpday&diff=20079&oldid=14810 one of your additions to Whelpday included “The Homestead”]. Was that Homestead a role-play section of alt.lifestyle.furry or the Homestead LJ? --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 22:20, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

The "Homestead" as [[Alt.lifestyle.furry|ALF]] is referred as sometimes =) [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 04:40, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

== User:74.15.21.167 ==

After reviewing the [[Special:Contributions/74.15.21.167|recent edits]] by this anonymous user, it is not obvious to me like they were acts of vandalism/bad faith. Questionable, perhaps, but possibly worthy of further discussion before taking action against this user. Are you familiar enough with the subject matter of the articles edited to be able to say otherwise? --[[User:Mwalimu|mwalimu]] 18:07, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

:No, it wasn't actually the initial edits that made me reverse the changes, but the final two touches of taking out the contributor template ("uh?, why?",) and the little tweak on the Road Rover article (cute.) Not precisely nice final touches to try to seriously assert your prior arguments/edits [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 18:23, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

== Wiki-style Disagreement ==

I prefer dictionary-tabbing out segments versus making sub-segments, especially when the topics covered are short enough that they could be covered in a bulleted list (not to mention it causes that ugly Table Of Contents to show up, which is really unnecessary when we're discussing many short definitions). I consider it more 'wiki-like' in making sure the content is not obscured by needless details, and in this case your changes are the equivalent of a ten-pound parcel for a ten-ounce cargo.

I would really rather you leave my edits in that regard alone. I don't mind content being corrected, but the 'many small segments' appearance really bothers me, unless you intend on expanding each of the segments in [[How To Be a Furry]] out into sizable enough portions to be worth the alteration fairly soon. [[User:Jigsaw Forte|Jigsaw Forte]] 03:40, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

:Actually, it has nothing to do with the type of edit you prefer, instead of more on the formatting that Wikifur generally uses ([[Help:Furry_Book_of_Style]].) Not ribbing, or trying to get your goat, or, simply, "f**** with you," really, just following old formatting rules, which there are a few I also feel should be changed to be more pleasing looking. If you feel the type of format you're using could help enhance articles, please, do put the discussion forth =)

:In the mean time, no malice was intended with the formatting of the article [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 03:50, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

== Revert ==

Why did you revert [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=DrGamez&diff=166253&oldid=166215 this]? It's not really nice to have lots of unsourced rumors on an article about a real person. [[User:Hendrik18|Hendrik18]] 16:20, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

:Such list was not taken out, even when its user made edits to [http://furry.wikia.com/index.php?title=DrGamez&direction=next&oldid=64175 it], which either means that (A) they were written by him or (B) he didn't have a problem with them. That's why the revert,...

:But, looking at it again, even if the reasons listed above are correct, this kind of fluff writing belongs in the contributor's user page, which does have the same [http://furry.wikia.com/wiki/User:DrGamez list] anyways, so re-reverting to your edit after all [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 22:13, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

== My personal page ==

I respectfully request the future link 'Vampire' not be included (hence my removing it upon its addition the first time) as Queen Vampire is my title and my vampire mythos varies greatly from most the common ones found. They are a part of my history and those of my offspring. I do not want them lumped into the typical vampire definition. Please allow that removal. I also wonder why you have insisted on a future link regarding my home. It has no reason to be listed at all, and I do not want it listed now or in the future.

Yours sincerely,
Lady Tabyathe Foxhampton

:Wikipedia links are provided more information interesting information to potential reader to peruse, and it doesn't have to be really related, but if the biology, lore and history of your species is quite distinct from the established vampyr/vampire mythology, I will make sure it is not linked now, or in future edits.

:As for [[Fox Manor]], being a Wiki devoted to anything furry related, any information, names, or locales are open to be expanded into future articles to provide, once again, a more broader, varied and informative view of Furry. If you don't wish to expand on this matter/subject, I can delete the link format at your request [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 04:05, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

==Yo==
Consider this me contacting you personally, since I can't find an email. This is [[Colley]]. I don't want my personal information on my wikifur page. Please remove it.
You have access to my livejournal if you need to contact me and verify this.{{unsigned|12.219.171.207}}

== Why do you want [[Colley]] to be harassed? ==

I can't think of any other reason why you'd disregard [http://colley.livejournal.com/479346.html his own statements about what he approves on his page] but insist on putting his real name there against his wishes and subsequently protecting it. That's rather hostile of you.

:His real name will be removed [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 04:30, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

:: Please also remove my name from drewkitty. If you insist on being tedious, please E-mail drewkitty@gmail.com and I will verify the removal. Otherwise I complain to other admins. 3 November 2007

== I need help ==

Excuse me Mr. Spirou, why are all the external article of the [[Butch]] series requesting to be merged, I would agree that this would be a good idea for this, but the Butch article isn't made to have all the information on it, it's made to be a directional page for the other articles, not all he information is there and it's incomplete. - [[User:McBowser|McBowser]] 02:18, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

:Most webcomic articles have all the information that's currently fragmented across Wikifur under one entry (Comic, premise, characters, locations,...) In the current state, a reader would need to make several article jumps instead of finding all related information under one heading.

:As for length, currently all the articles related to this comic are under the "stub" size, so they could easily be assimilated under one entry. [[Sequential Art]] is an example of how to format a webcomic article for this Wiki - [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 04:19, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

::But i did that because, i didn't get any kind of replys when made the last comment, and the only time when i did get a response is after i deleted the tags. i took off the merge tab because, the articles they arn't finished and all the informatin hasn't been placed there yet, i went to most of the articles here that talked about web-comics and the reason they merged together is becase there doesn't seem to be that much information on it, it just lloks a few paragraphs telling the main idea and some synopsis notes. - [[User:McBowser|McBowser]] 04:52, 30 October 2007 (UTC)