Talk:List of furry LiveJournal communities

2006-11-04T22:09:17Z

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== Cash for Livejournal ==
Imagine if LJ started charging for existing journal. Damn, what a great way to earn a billion dollars.

:Oh, hardly. If two million people stayed, Xanga would still have to charge about $40/month to earn a billion bux in a year (1bil/2mil=500, 500/12=~44). And that's assuming that many would stay; I think that maybe fewer than half the current non-paying users would hang around. -- [[User:Siege|Siege]] 10:44, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

== Nazi Furs ==
Regarding the adding/removal/re-adding of the Nazi Furs group, I did check out the group, and the info page explicitly says that the group is for furs interested in the history of the Nazi Party and World War 2. It goes on to say that it is not a hate group and will not tolerate trolls, white supremecists, etc. Given those details, I think that the entry for that group should stay on the page here. (they might have picked a better name though...) --[[User:Dmuth|Dmuth]] 15:42, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:I did too before I readded it, it looks reasonable and likewise even if it did have objectional content, this wiki is not a place to not list things because some people wouldn't like it. Otherwise the only place we might have listed is [[Yerf]].. and then that would be deleted because it contained too much drama over artist elitism. ;) -[[User:Nidonocu|Nidonocu]] - [[User talk:Nidonocu|talk]] [[Image:Trans 168.png|16px|Nidonocu]] 15:46, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:::However, we do have to start being careful. Vandalism to this page (adding hate groups, changing URLs slightly) is hard to notice, seeing as it is a rather large list. Maybe my making this page was a bad idea. -_-; [[User:Almafeta|Almafeta]] 07:06, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)
::::Such possibilities is why we have a big Revert button, watchlists and recent changes. Lists like this are good as it means we have almanac style content as well as articles, much like wikipedia. ;> -[[User:Nidonocu|Nidonocu]] - [[User talk:Nidonocu|talk]] [[Image:Trans 168.png|16px|Nidonocu]] 15:21, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Nationalist_fur ==
I'm not completely confident of my change re: Nationalist Furries. To me "nationalism" is specific to a political organism -- i.e., a nation. Their goals seem to be the unification of furries in philosophy and aims, but not (in my mind) in a "nation". Wikipedia's entries on [[Wikipedia:Nation|Nation]] and [[Wikipedia:Nationalism|Nationalism]] don't seem to address the issue -- or did they? They were tl;dr. ;) --[[User:Tomhowling|Tom Howling]] 16:32, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Removed emphasis in names ==
When I was an editor at MacWEEK magazine, we had a rule: If a company or product name was spelled with exclamation points, all-caps, or other attention-grabbers, we removed them. I think it's a good idea. Without it, you get the equivalent of people Increasing their VOICES until EVERYONE! IS SHOUTING!!!!!! :) So I made that change to this article. --[[User:Tomhowling|Tom Howling]] 16:32, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Order of U.S. regions ==

I see [[User:DuncanDaHusky|DuncanDaHusky]] made some improvements. I'm not sure about his decision to reorder the U.S. regions, which were alphabetical, to run roughly East to West. What do others think? I know it's not that big a deal, but it seems a bit inconsistent to me. --[[User:Tomhowling|Tom Howling]] 20:26, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:There are few enough regions I don't think the ordering is a major issue, but I agree it seems counterintuitive to me since everything else is ordered alphabetically. [[User:Seanmcelroy|BlueOtter]] 20:59, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::Well,I'm certainly not married to the idea :-) If you prefer it alphabetically, that's fine by me.--[[User:DuncanDaHusky|Duncan da Husky]] 22:44, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::Eh, screw it... the more I look at how you have it, the more I like it. I have to learn not to be so anal. :) --[[User:Tomhowling|Tom Howling]] 23:16, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)
== Related search terms for LJ Interests ==
I checked, and LJ returned the same number of hits for "furries" as "furry", so I guess it has a plural-checking gewgaw installed. (I didn't compare the two lists, though.) Text changed to give better-working examples, although I had a hard time elegantly saying, "These other search terms likely contain both new hits and redundant hits." I think it's fine, but change it if you feel poetic (and concise!) --[[User:Tomhowling|Tom Howling]] 03:14, 29 Nov 2005 (UTC)

== Cleanup need ==

Due to the changes in cookie handling and user/community URLs, I think that pretty much all of the links on this page need to be adjusted. -- [[User:Siege|Siege]] 17:54, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

== Splitting? ==

To my eyes this article is getting to be unwieldy. I would suggest splitting out Location-specific communities to another article, at least, if not some of the other sections (Art comes to mind). -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 21:54, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

:If the location section was moved, what do others think of moving them to subcategories of [[:Category:Groups by country]] ? A WikiFur category for continents might have to be created. (BTW, South African Furs "Journal has been deleted." and they have 30 days to undelete.) --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 12:36, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

::Sounds like a plan to me, and I'm all for continents. I wish we had a more generic name for Groups by country, as the country categories are used for more than groups, but it'd be a pain to rename at this point. Although not such a pain if we were fitting countries into continent categories... hmm. -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 03:52, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

I was wondering if the list of anti-furry LJs should be moved to a seperate page. --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 12:36, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

== Topic and Wikifur links ==

I don't think the topics should be Wikifur links to a particular community, as in the recent edit which links Victims of abuse to [[Wounded Paws]].

I actually think it's about time to include Wikifur links to individual communities, as well as the external links. I'm not sure what the best format for that would be. Thoughts? -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 04:21, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

: I'd also prefer that topic headers not be a wiki-link to a wiki-article about a specific livejournal. How about formating that line into *'''Victims of abuse:''' [[Wounded Paws]]: [http://community.livejournal.com/woundedpaws/ Wounded Paws] . Another possibility is changing it to the double-asterisk format used in the [[List of furry LiveJournal communities#Art projects|Art projects]] section (although that could wait until there's a second victims-of-abuse livejournal). --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 01:30, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

== move Hobbies to Interests? ==

Currently there are the sections "Interests" and "Occupations and hobbies". Should the "hobbies" be moved into the "Interests" section? --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 01:37, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

:'''Be bold.''' Do what you think should be done. --[[User:Rat|Rat]] 22:20, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

:I don't think so, since there's a difference between hobbies and interests... there's communities for people who do x as a job or pastime, such as [http://community.livejournal.com/furrydjs/ Furry DJs] and [http://community.livejournal.com/furry_farmers/ Furry Farmers]. -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 05:02, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

::I'm fine with Furry Farmers being in the OaH list ("Occupations and hobbies") since farming can be a major job, but there are 3 main things I'm wondering about:
::(1) "Cars: Motor Furs" being in the Interests list while "Weapons: Furry Gun owners" is in the OaH list.
::(2) Perhaps the header could be changed to "Occupations (that some do as a hobby)" ?
::(3) how far do we go in what we consider to be a job? (examples: (3a) furrytattoos LJ includes those making money from tattoos, (3b) Bernal considers SexyFur to be a job (see CrushYiffDestroy's interview of Bernal), and (3c) I assume there are fursuit makers and other artists who make enough money for their art to be a job (whether part-time or full-time). --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 20:01, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

== Art projects section ==

I don't think we need the Art projects section, as these are such specific communities and generally intended only for participants in the projects. Thoughts? -- [[User:Sine|Sine]] 05:42, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

== Horrors Community Updates ==

VCL Horrors, FA Horrors, SheezyArt Horrors, Elfwood Horrors, and DeviantArt Horrors (in conjunction with the "Big Bad Mod" account) have been deleted, permanently. The following communities were made to replace some of them:
wtf_vcl, vclhorrors, wtf_fa, deviantartsnark, vcl_snark {{unsigned|Surgat}}

== subcategories of Gaming? ==

I was going to be bold, but decided to ask here first. [[List of furry LiveJournal communities#Interests]] category includes Gaming subcategory, lines for Second Life and Tapestries. What do people think of the Second Life line and the Tapestries lines being moved into Gaming subcategory? --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 08:01, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

== Furarthorrors and Artists_beware ==

Two information LJ communities to warm artists and commissioners about problematic artists and commissioners:

*http://community.livejournal.com/furarthorrors/
*http://community.livejournal.com/artists_beware/

Any suggestions about what heading and/or section they should be listed under? Danke [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 07:47, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

:Hmm. Since it's two entries, I should think that would be enough to merit its own subsection. Perhaps "Artist/Commissioner Discussion" under "Furry Art"? Oh, and you may want to make note of the fact that furarthorrors has membership by invitation only. ----[[User:DuncanDaHusky|DuncanDaHusky]]([[User talk:DuncanDaHusky|talk]]) 12:20, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

::Ah, will do so =) Thanks for the help [[User:Spirou|Spirou]] 02:39, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

== and relationships (parents and childfree) ==

I was going to add the furry_childfree LJ to the list, but noticed "Married Furs' Journal" was in "Sexuality and relationships" section while "Furry Parents" are in "Traits" section. Should "Furry Parents" be moved to "relationships" section? Should furry_childfree go in "relationships" section? (some childfree are single while others are in a relationship) --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 03:09, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

== furry-inclusive? ==

List includes "100x100 Icon Exchange *" and "Conbadge Exchange *" with explanation that the the asterisks "* Note: These communities are not exclusively furry, but a majority of the participants are or have animalistic avatars." I think the explanation is fine for those two exchanges (since the explanation is right after) .. but what about other LJs that are not near the explanation? (example [[Artists beware]]) Should add something like "furry-inclusive" ? --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 08:43, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

:Perhaps the description should be something like "appear to have a significant proportion of members from the furry fandom"? --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 20:31, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

:: I have no strong opinion on which explanation wording is better, mainly I was wondering if format should switch FROM "name-of-LJ *" TO "name-of-LJ (furry-inclusive)" --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 20:38, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

:::Given that it's on a list of furry LiveJournal communities, I think that's implied, to be honest. '''*grin*''' --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]]) 15:56, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

== Furry Rants LJ Community ==

It amuses me to no end that the community created BY furs (I should know, I made the damn thing) to bitch about things that upset them in the fandom is listed as 'anti-furry'. I just find it humorous, that's all. [[User:72.199.244.105|72.199.244.105]]

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