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Ben Coon

2005-09-06T08:17:33Z

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* '''Website:''' http://www.secretmoon.org/~ben

Administrator of the [[secret moon treehouse]] on [[Tapestries muck]]. Co-host for [[Cub Central]].

Talk:The Astonishing Treehouse of the Secret Moon

2005-09-06T08:06:28Z

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The deleted sections were due to blaring inaccuracies made to stir up drama. They were added by Crassus, who is apparently still bitter that he no longer has a part in the treehouse, and refuses to think that his removal was in any way his own fault. So he decides to add some revised history, in an attempt to reinsert himself into the secretmoon history.
:First things first - if you're going to put up a note of this nature, be '''bold''' enough to leave it up.

:Second of all, WikiFur is not the place to resolve issues of this nature. If you have a problem with Crassus, I'd suggest taking it up with him.

:Third, do you have a source showing your statement is accurate? [[User:CarlFox|Carl Fox]] 05:13, 6 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::First. I thought I had responded in the wrong area. Hence, why I deleted it.

:::You got it right the first time. It's almost always best to debate topics on the discussion pages - that's what they're there for. :-)

::::Force of habit.. I try to keep drama and disagreements private. I don't deal with public disagreements very well. - Ben (who is using a terminal-based web browser which won't stay logged in)

::Second. No, it's not. But airing personal drama is pretty useless, too. [[User:68.15.19.166|68.15.19.166]]

:::From what I've read, it must be at least part of the history of the Treehouse, and probably a significant part - changes between owners are often troublesome. It has meaning for at least two people. Most likely, it has affected other people as well, and is of interest to others. The story of the Treehouse is not going to be complete without it.

::Third. Well, yeah. Me. Being the current owner of the treehouse, and very much present during the whole thing, I'm pretty sure I have a pretty reliable source of information. --[[User:Bencoon|Bencoon]] 05:31, 6 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:::You are also a person who is directly involved in the dispute that is mentioned. With all due respect, we have to consider that you may be biased (just as we must consider that Crassus is probably biased). See below, but note that as always on Wikifur, presentation of evidence (newsgroup/forum postings and the like) and characterisation of disputes is the appropriate route, rather than removal of ostensibly valid information. It appears that Crassus at least attempted to do the latter. Perhaps you could do the former?

::::After a while, I got tired of cleaning up after him. But hey, I can do it again. - Ben

:Please do not attempt to just remove history because you have (eg) fallen out with another person. If that history is ''inaccurate'', you can correct it, but removing it altogether is not appropriate. Evidently there '''was''' a disagreement at one point - so please help us document it, clearly and factually, in a way that nobody can disagree with the account. If there are parts that people disagree over, you should state what one group believes, and what another group believes, and show the evidence of this belief. There are probably newsgroup postings on this topic which you could reference. Ultimately, it may come down to "X says A, and Y says B" . . . and if that's actually their positions, then it's appropriate to leave it there.

:The ultimate test is fact. If there is a statement such as "person X did Y", and it is true, then it should be in the article. To remove it without cause is wrong. From what I can see there were many such facts that were removed. Of course, perhaps you have facts of your own to add, or you would like to dispute those facts - you are welcome to do so, especially when backed up with evidence from somewhere else.

:If you feel you are in the right, have the courage of your convictions, and trust that other people will agree when presented with the unadorned facts. If you ''don't'' think they will . . . well, maybe you should reconsider your position. I am particularly troubled by your statement about Crassus "reinserting" himself into history, which implies that someone - I'm guessing yourself - removed him to start with. You cannot do that here. If he "no longer has a part", then you should specify what that part was and why things changed, not pretend he never was a part. --{{UT|GreenReaper}} 05:48, 6 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::'''Please remember to sign your edits on talk pages with <nowiki>~~~</nowiki> for your name or <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> for your name and date/time.''' - Its very hard to follow all this without names. --[[User:Nidonocu|Nidonocu]] - [[User talk:Nidonocu|talk]] [[Image:Trans 168.png|16px|Nidonocu]] 07:08, 6 Sep 2005 (UTC)

The Astonishing Treehouse of the Secret Moon

2005-09-06T07:45:35Z

68.15.19.166: /* Disputed Changes of Ownership */

'''<span style="position: relative;top: -4px;">[[Image:Treehouse.png|T]]</span>he Astonishing Treehouse of the Secret Moon''' (usually shortened to '''The Treehouse''', '''Secret Moon Treehouse''' or just '''Secretmoon''') is a popular fictional location in [[Tapestries MUCK]]. It has had a website since 2000, which is home to a few of the long-term residents, as well as the site of an [[ageplay]]-themed [[oekaki]].
[[Image:Censor_NC17.png|right]]
* '''Website:''' http://secretmoon.org/
* '''Founded:''' May 1999
* '''Website started:''' 14 June 2000

'''First Generation Staff'''
* '''Founder:''' [[Lori'anne]]
* '''Maintainers:''' [[Crassus]] and [[Sarah Skunkie]]

'''Second Generation Staff'''
* '''Owner:''' [[Crassus]]
* '''Maintainers:''' [[Ben Raccoon]] and [[Sarah Skunkie]]

'''Current Staff'''
* '''Owner:''' [[Ben Raccoon]]

== Location and Description ==

The Treehouse (''[[teleport pattern|t secretmoon]]'') is located deep within the [[Northern Forest]] outside of [[Layleaux Town]], south of [[Whitefire]]'s mountain. It resides in an open grassy glade filled with mist and moonlight among the trees. It's a peaceful area, and young furs come from all over to play in and around the treehouse.

=== The Yard ===

The '''yard''' is the entrypoint for this area, holding the [[teleport pattern]] and links to other areas. There are usually anywhere from five to fifteen furs around at any one time - as Secret Moon is a popular "cruising" location, there is almost always someone coming or going. This can sometimes be distracting; groups typically move somewhere quieter, like the treehouse proper. One peculiarity of the yard and the surrounding area is that it's always lit by moonlight - something to do with the tree, no doubt.

=== The Tree and Basement ===

Originally, the mid and lower portions of the '''tree''' were merely hollowed out by natural means. Once the treehouse was discovered by Lori'Anne and its original occupants, things were improved. At ground level, there is a doorway which leads to a ladder carved directly into the wood that travels its entire internal length. Traveling up the ladder leads up to the treehouse built upon the trunk. Traveling downward, leads to a hidden '''basement''' which originaly housed a rather dark area. Since then, it has been converted from its prior function into a ball-pit, perfect for those days when you've really got nothing better to do than swim around in a sea of multicoloured plastic spheres. The ball pit is also accessible by way of a slide from the treehouse. It also contains various other instruments of play and leisure, and even a fridge of its own.

The original intention for the basement was to contain and house any of the more objectionable play. Over time, it was decided to redesign this area, since it conflicted with the ideal that the treehouse was meant to act as a safehaven for children, not bring harm to them.

=== Treehouse and Bathroom ===

The '''treehouse''' mainroom is the nominal hub of this area, although the yard is typically busier due to the traffic brought by the teleport pattern. Bedecked in multicoloured paint and ribbons, the room is filled with furniture from the '60s, including blowup chairs, pillows and lots and lots of beanbags. On the walls are toys of all kinds, to suit all tastes, including those who like to [[BDSM|play rough]].

A slide leads to the basement, while a door leads off to the '''bathroom''', which is dominated by an large round tub set into the floor. Various soaps, oils and gels are available, and some people spend a very long time in the bath, especially if they're with friends.

=== Deck and Playroom ===

Leaving the treehouse, visitors find a wide '''deck''' completely encircling the upper portion of the tree trunk, with plenty of places to sit or stand and admire the view. A fireman's pole offers a quick descent for those wishing to return to the yard. The tree's limbs are easily accessible from the deck - climb up into the branches, and you will find a hidden '''playroom''', where imagination rules.

=== Sleeping Platforms and Watchtower ===

You can climb off the deck of the main platform onto two '''sleeping platforms''' linked to one another by rope bridge - the second platform can only be accessed via the ground floor of the first. Most of the platforms are given over to the private rooms of Secret Moon regulars. The first platform also holds the public bedroom, while the second has a '''watchtower''', from which it's possible to see over the treetops to [[WhiteFire]]'s mountain and [[Layleaux Town]] in the distance.

=== The Lake ===

South of the treehouse lies a '''lake''' with a sandy beach with everything a young fur could wish for in the way of water sports, including floats, rafts, noodles, and a dive-in platform in the deeper areas. The beach is also suitable for paddling, or just lazing out - no need to worry about getting sunburnt, as the moon also shines here!

=== Secluded Pool ===

To the east of the lake, a wooded path leads off to a secluded '''pool''', where a flat rock provides a perfect jumping-off point into the crystal-clear spring waters. It is also a very quiet and peaceful place for those who wish to be alone, or alone with others.

The pool was an addition added by [[Crassus]] while the treehouse was still under the ownership of Lori'Anne. The concept of the pool was to be a symbolic representation of time and the magical effects which the moon played on the area. A little-known fact about the Secluded Pool is that while the rest of the treehouse area stays locked in time stasis (providing a perpetual twilight), the pool, and the oak tree feeding from it, is locked in a sort of temporal displacement which not only allows time to flow forward (which explains the size of the oak), but also to be reversed. The pool can act as a time machine, essentially. It can't simply transport you to and fro. It reacts to the inner wishes of the individual who bathes in it. This allows those who simply wish to have a swim not to be effected by the magical properties of the pool, while others who wish to either regress or advance in their age can do so.

Since time flows in this portion, the pool area also is the only area of the muck that is bathed in any form of sunlight, albeit limited by the canopy of leaves provided by the oak.

== Population ==

Given the adult theme of Tapestries, Secret Moon is particularly suited to [[ageplay]]ers, although [[babyfur]]s are known to hang out there as well.

It should be noted that despite the theme, and as everywhere in Tapestries, every part of the treehouse is a valid location for [[TinySex]], although [[non-consensual]] [[role-play]] is frowned on in the Yard - participants in such [[scene]]s may be asked to move elsewhere, though if it's particularly well-played few are likely to complain.

== Website ==

The domain was originally purchased by [[Crassus]] in response to a flame-war on alt.fan.furry regarding the nature of the treehouse and also to secure it for possible future promotion use. Ownership of the domain was voluntarily transfered to [[Ben Raccoon]] in summer of 2000.

The website at secretmoon.org shares the same theme as the MUCK location, although they are not particularly connected content-wise. Instead, the website provides hosting and mail services for some of Secret Moon's regular players.

In January 2003 a PaintBBS/oekaki system was added, which has become a popular place for certain forms of artwork.

== Drama and the Disputed Changes of Ownership ==

A couple months after the Treehouse became a public area, Lori'anne approached [[Crassus]] and explained she was no longer interested in Tapestries and transferred ownership of the treehouse to him. Lori'Anne granted him the password to Treespirit, the Treehouse building-quota character. She publically announced the change of ownership onto the treehouse bulletin board. At the time this took place, muck policy allowed sharing of characters. Online help documents which were available on the muck stated this. When the MUCK's policy changed, the website was updated reflecting the changes, but the neglected online help docs continued to display the previous policy.

Crassus then met Ben Raccoon and the two became involved. Crassus enlisted Ben to become co-maintainer the treehouse and shared the character password. In January of 2000, unrelated OOC conflicts erupted between the two. After multiple threats to delete the treehouse and his own character, Crassus left Ben in charge of the treehouse. After the multiple abandoned projects that were left behind had been cleaned up or finished, the treehouse continued peacefully for another few months. Because of this, Crassus demanded that Ben return the Treespirit character. Tired of the power games that resulted the last time, Ben said no. Crassus lodged a formal complaint to the wizards through an alternate character, as Crassus himself was being page #ignored for previous disagreements. Whitewizard @toaded Crassus on the spot, citing harassment and [[Character Sharing]]. Crassus initiated an off-muck public protest of his alleged unfair treatment by creating a website detailing the dispute and publically displayed the multiple chastising emails he had received from Whitefire after the toading. Crassus also used his remaining alts to attempt to start a petition in the various high-traffic areas of the muck in an attempt to get others to help him convince the wizards to allow the original Crassus character to return. Upon the discovery of the protest website as well as recieving multiple complaints about Crassus' followup behavior, Whitefire site-banned Crassus, denying any further access to Tapestries.

Due to the dispute over possession of the Treespirit character, that account was locked and the treehouse was left without an official administrator for several months. A rather fortuitous appearance of Lori'anne resulted in a discussion between herself, Ben Raccoon, and one of the wizard core, possession of the treehouse was transferred to Ben Raccoon, and both were given a strong warning against further character sharing.

== External links ==
* ''[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.furry/browse_frm/thread/744e1ad3344a67be Treehouse on Tapestries]'' - Lori'anne's response to [[Ben Bruin]]'s [http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.furry/browse_frm/thread/bd86f8858a0a37ca post] about a website (now long down) promoting Secret Moon - see also [http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&start=80&scoring=d&enc_author=vaXRgBkAAAAWpLTIT3RCA41USoK94-1zbadRkHY8izvoWSZmz-9hFg& other threads]
* The basement [http://www.yiffstar.com/index.php?pid=4743 was not always so pleasant] ('''do''' read the warning text)
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The Astonishing Treehouse of the Secret Moon

2005-09-06T04:47:37Z

68.15.19.166: Removal of Crassus' drama and inaccuracies. He was banned from Tapestries for harassment.

Talk:The Astonishing Treehouse of the Secret Moon

2005-09-06T04:45:41Z

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Talk:The Astonishing Treehouse of the Secret Moon

2005-09-06T04:45:15Z

68.15.19.166: Crassus' drama was removed.

The Astonishing Treehouse of the Secret Moon

2005-09-06T03:12:47Z

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'''<span style="position: relative;top: -4px;">[[Image:Treehouse.png|T]]</span>he Astonishing Treehouse of the Secret Moon''' (usually shortened to '''The Treehouse''', '''Secret Moon Treehouse''' or just '''Secretmoon''') is a popular fictional location in [[Tapestries MUCK]]. It has had a website since 2000, which is home to a few of the long-term residents, as well as the site of an [[ageplay]]-themed [[oekaki]].
[[Image:Censor_NC17.png|right]]
* '''Website:''' http://secretmoon.org/
* '''Founded:''' May 1999
* '''Website started:''' 14 June 2000

* '''Founder:''' [[Lori'anne]]
* '''Current Owner:''' [[Ben Raccoon]]

== Location and Description ==

The Treehouse (''[[teleport pattern|t secretmoon]]'') is located deep within the [[Northern Forest]] outside of [[Layleaux Town]], south of [[Whitefire]]'s mountain. It resides in an open grassy glade filled with mist and moonlight among the trees. It's a peaceful area, and young furs come from all over to play in and around the treehouse.

=== The Yard ===

The '''yard''' is the entrypoint for this area, holding the [[teleport pattern]] and links to other areas. There are usually anywhere from five to fifteen furs around at any one time - as Secret Moon is a popular "cruising" location, there is almost always someone coming or going. This can sometimes be distracting; groups typically move somewhere quieter, like the treehouse proper. One peculiarity of the yard and the surrounding area is that it's always lit by moonlight - something to do with the tree, no doubt.

=== The Tree and Basement ===

Originally, the mid and lower portions of the '''tree''' were merely hollowed out by natural means. Once the treehouse was discovered by Lori'Anne and its original occupants, things were improved. At ground level, there is a doorway which leads to a ladder carved directly into the wood that travels its entire internal length. Traveling up the ladder leads up to the treehouse built upon the trunk. Traveling downward, leads to a hidden '''basement''' which originaly housed a rather dark area. Since then, it has been converted from its prior function into a ball-pit, perfect for those days when you've really got nothing better to do than swim around in a sea of multicoloured plastic spheres. The ball pit is also accessible by way of a slide from the treehouse. It also contains various other instruments of play and leisure, and even a fridge of its own.

The original intention for the basement was to contain and house any of the more objectionable play. Over time, it was decided to redesign this area, since it conflicted with the ideal that the treehouse was meant to act as a safehaven for children, not bring harm to them.

=== Treehouse and Bathroom ===

The '''treehouse''' mainroom is the nominal hub of this area, although the yard is typically busier due to the traffic brought by the teleport pattern. Bedecked in multicoloured paint and ribbons, the room is filled with furniture from the '60s, including blowup chairs, pillows and lots and lots of beanbags. On the walls are toys of all kinds, to suit all tastes, including those who like to [[BDSM|play rough]].

A slide leads to the basement, while a door leads off to the '''bathroom''', which is dominated by an large round tub set into the floor. Various soaps, oils and gels are available, and some people spend a very long time in the bath, especially if they're with friends.

=== Deck and Playroom ===

Leaving the treehouse, visitors find a wide '''deck''' completely encircling the upper portion of the tree trunk, with plenty of places to sit or stand and admire the view. A fireman's pole offers a quick descent for those wishing to return to the yard. The tree's limbs are easily accessible from the deck - climb up into the branches, and you will find a hidden '''playroom''', where imagination rules.

=== Sleeping Platforms and Watchtower ===

You can climb off the deck of the main platform onto two '''sleeping platforms''' linked to one another by rope bridge - the second platform can only be accessed via the ground floor of the first. Most of the platforms are given over to the private rooms of Secret Moon regulars. The first platform also holds the public bedroom, while the second has a '''watchtower''', from which it's possible to see over the treetops to [[WhiteFire]]'s mountain and [[Layleaux Town]] in the distance.

=== The Lake ===

South of the treehouse lies a '''lake''' with a sandy beach with everything a young fur could wish for in the way of water sports, including floats, rafts, noodles, and a dive-in platform in the deeper areas. The beach is also suitable for paddling, or just lazing out - no need to worry about getting sunburnt, as the moon also shines here!

=== Secluded Pool ===

To the east of the lake, a wooded path leads off to a secluded '''pool''', where a flat rock provides a perfect jumping-off point into the crystal-clear spring waters. It is also a very quiet and peaceful place for those who wish to be alone, or alone with others.

The pool was added later while the treehouse was still under the ownership of Lori'Anne. The concept of the pool was to be a symbolic representation of time and the magical effects which the moon played on the area. A little-known fact about the Secluded Pool is that while the rest of the treehouse area stays locked in time stasis (providing a perpetual twilight), the pool, and the oak tree feeding from it, is locked in a sort of temporal displacement which not only allows time to flow forward (which explains the size of the oak), but also to be reversed. The pool can act as a time machine, essentially. It can't simply transport you to and fro. It reacts to the inner wishes of the individual who bathes in it. This allows those who simply wish to have a swim not to be effected by the magical properties of the pool, while others who wish to either regress or advance in their age can do so.

Since time flows in this portion, the pool area also is the only area of the muck that is bathed in any form of sunlight, albeit limited by the canopy of leaves provided by the oak.

== Population ==

Given the adult theme of Tapestries, Secret Moon is particularly suited to [[ageplay]]ers, although [[babyfur]]s are known to hang out there as well.

It should be noted that despite the theme, and as everywhere in Tapestries, every part of the treehouse is a valid location for [[TinySex]], although [[non-consensual]] [[role-play]] is frowned on in the Yard - participants in such [[scene]]s may be asked to move elsewhere, though if it's particularly well-played few are likely to complain.

== Website ==

The website at secretmoon.org shares the same theme as the MUCK location, although they are not particularly connected content-wise. Instead, the website provides hosting and mail services for some of Secret Moon's regular players.

In January 2003 a PaintBBS/oekaki system was added, which has become a popular place for certain forms of artwork.

== External links ==
* ''[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.furry/browse_frm/thread/744e1ad3344a67be Treehouse on Tapestries]'' - Lori'anne's response to [[Ben Bruin]]'s [http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.furry/browse_frm/thread/bd86f8858a0a37ca post] about a website (now long down) promoting Secret Moon - see also [http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&start=80&scoring=d&enc_author=vaXRgBkAAAAWpLTIT3RCA41USoK94-1zbadRkHY8izvoWSZmz-9hFg& other threads]
* The basement [http://www.yiffstar.com/index.php?pid=4743 was not always so pleasant] ('''do''' read the warning text)
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The Astonishing Treehouse of the Secret Moon

2005-09-02T07:16:19Z

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