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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ô: moved Talk:GreenReaper to Talk:Virgin: More fitting&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;''This is the page to talk about the GreenReaper article. To talk '''to''' GreenReaper, see his [[User talk:GreenReaper|user talk page]].''&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>GreenReaper</title>
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				<updated>2011-07-27T03:25:44Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ô: moved GreenReaper to Virgin: More fitting&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;__NOTOC__[[File:GreenReaperProfile.jpg|thumb|right|160px|Laurence &amp;quot;GreenReaper&amp;quot; Parry]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Greenreaper vantid 100px.jpg|thumb|left|GreenReaper by [[Vantid]]]]&lt;br /&gt;
'''Laurence &amp;quot;GreenReaper&amp;quot; Parry''' (born 1982) is the founder of [[WikiFur]], editor-in-chief of [[Flayrah]], and an amateur photographer.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fan activities==&lt;br /&gt;
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GreenReaper spends much time researching and writing news and articles on [[furry fandom]]. He leads furry encyclopedia WikiFur, which he founded in July 2005, and online furry news magazine Flayrah, which he took over in January 2010.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''[http://www.flayrah.com/c/flayrah-relaunches-new-software-editor-chief Flayrah relaunches with new software, editor-in-chief]'' - GreenReaper, [[Flayrah]] (11 January 2010)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; He is a frequent editor of [[Wikipedia:Portal:Furry|furry articles at Wikipedia]] and [[Wikipedia:Wikinews|Wikinews]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/GreenReaper GreenReaper's contributions] - Wikipedia&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''[[WikiNews:Furry fans flock to Further Confusion 2007|Furry fans flock to Further Confusion 2007]]''  - GreenReaper et. al., Wikinews (6 February 2007)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''[[WikiNews:Anthrocon 2007 draws thousands to Pittsburgh for furry weekend|Anthrocon 2007 draws thousands to Pittsburgh for furry weekend]]'' - GreenReaper et. al., Wikinews (17 July 2007)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and maintains the [[Wikipedia:Open Directory Project|Open Directory]]'s furry categories.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.dmoz.org/Society/People/Furry/ Society/People/Furry], [http://www.dmoz.org/Adult/Arts/Genres/Furry/ Adult/Arts/Genres/Furry] and [http://www.dmoz.org/Games/Video_Games/Roleplaying/Massive_Multiplayer_Online/Furcadia/ Games/Video Games/Roleplaying/Massive Multiplayer Online/Furcadia] at the Open Directory Project&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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GreenReaper also takes [[convention]] photographs&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Anthro&amp;quot;&amp;gt;''[http://anthrozine.com/itvw/itv.greenreaper.html The Record of the Archivist]'' - interview of GreenReaper by [[Phil Geusz]], ''[[Anthro]]'' #28 (26 April 2010)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; – releasing them as [[Wikipedia:Free content|free content]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''[http://community.livejournal.com/furrymedia/182568.html Furries - soon to be the latest UK teen fashion craze?]'' - GreenReaper, {{lj-comm|furrymedia}} (28 March 2009)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; – and is a moderator for [[Inkbunny]], a [[furry art]] community.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://inkbunny.net/adminsmods_process.php Administrators and moderators] - Inkbunny&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Conventions===&lt;br /&gt;
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GreenReaper has attended [[Midwest FurFest 2005]]/[[Midwest FurFest 2006|06]]/[[Midwest FurFest 2007|07]]/[[Midwest FurFest 2007|08]]/[[Midwest FurFest 2009|09]]/[[Midwest FurFest 2010|10]], [[Anthrocon 2006]]/[[Anthrocon 2007|07]]/[[Anthrocon 2008|08]]/[[Anthrocon 2009|09]]/[[Anthrocon 2010|10]], [[Further Confusion 2007]]/[[Further Confusion 2011|11]], [[Furry Connection North 2008]]/[[Furry Connection North 2009|09]]/[[Furry Connection North 2010|10]]/[[Furry Connection North 2011|11]], [[Furry Weekend Atlanta 2008]]/[[Furry Weekend Atlanta 2009|09]]/[[Furry Weekend Atlanta 2010|10]]/[[Furry Weekend Atlanta 2011|11]] and [[Rainfurrest 2009]]. He worked in [[operations|con ops]] at Anthrocon 2007-9 and at FCN 2009, but no longer staffs conventions due to conflicts of time and interest.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Roleplaying===&lt;br /&gt;
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GreenReaper participates in furry [[:Category:Multiplayer worlds|multiplayer worlds]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''[http://furry101.com/?p=31 The GreenReaper Interview]'' - [[Furry 101]] (3 December 2008)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; including &lt;br /&gt;
[[FurryMUCK]], [[Tapestries MUCK|Tapestries]], [[SpinDizzy]] and [[Furcadia]]. He typically plays a [[Creatures:Kai Norn|Kai]] [[Creatures:Norn|norn]], from the [[Creatures:Creatures series|''Creatures'']] [[Wikipedia:Artificial life|artificial life]] games.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Anthro&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Personal life==&lt;br /&gt;
Outside of the fandom, GreenReaper is the majority contributor to [[Creatures:|Creatures Wiki]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''[http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB111196673261990485-5REIoCsSFxd8Lo3uxapqIxxthR0_20050426.html?mod=blogs From Wikipedia's Creator, A New Site for Anyone, Anything]'' - Vauhini Vara, ''[[Wikipedia:The Wall Street Journal|The Wall Street Journal]]'' (28 March 2005)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; a [[Wikipedia:Skin (computing)|computer skinner]] and an all-around geek. He graduated from the [[Wikipedia:University of Bath|University of Bath]] in 2004 with awards for being &amp;quot;Most Geeky&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Worst Dressed&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Most likely to become a serial killer&amp;quot;, and a [[Wikipedia:British undergraduate degree classification|first]] in [[Wikipedia:Computer Science|Computer Science]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''[http://greenreaper.livejournal.com/18455.html And the winners are . . .]'' - {{lj-user|greenreaper}} (15 May 2004)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''[http://greenreaper.livejournal.com/20703.html So yeah . . .]'' - {{lj-user|greenreaper}} (2 July 2004)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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GreenReaper is British, but moved to the USA in July 2005 to work as a [[Wikipedia:Software developer|developer]] for [[Wikipedia:Stardock|Stardock]] in [[Wikipedia:Plymouth, Michigan|Plymouth, Michigan]].&lt;br /&gt;
== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:GreenReaperChillySketchSmall.jpg|right|thumb|160px|GreenReaper by [[Chilly]]]]&lt;br /&gt;
===Hosted works ===&lt;br /&gt;
* ''[[User:GreenReaper/WikiFur - A home for the furry community|WikiFur - A home for the furry community]]''&lt;br /&gt;
* ''[[User:GreenReaper/WikiFur: By and for the furry community|WikiFur: By and for the furry community]]''&lt;br /&gt;
*''[[User:GreenReaper/On Making History|On Making History]]'' - accepted submission for the Anthrocon 2006 [[con book]]&lt;br /&gt;
*''[[User:GreenReaper/Coming of Age|Coming of Age]]'' - submission for the [[Anthrocon 2007]] con book&lt;br /&gt;
* Con reports: [[User:GreenReaper/Con reports/Midwest FurFest 2005|Midwest FurFest 2005]] and [[User:GreenReaper/Con reports/Midwest FurFest 2006|2006]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Other===&lt;br /&gt;
*''[[User:GreenReaper/A Tale of Two Wikis|A Tale of Two Wikis]]'' ([http://wikimania2006.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proceedings:LP1/Full_text full text]) - presentation at [http://wikimania2006.wikimedia.org/ Wikimania 2006]&lt;br /&gt;
* GreenReaper at [[Creatures:GreenReaper|Creatures Wiki]] and [[Wikipedia:User:GreenReaper|Wikipedia]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
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== External links ==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Contributor|GreenReaper}}&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://greenreaper.co.uk/ GreenReaper Studios] - home page&lt;br /&gt;
*''[http://www.livejournal.com/users/greenreaper/ GreenReaper's Bibble]'' at [[LiveJournal]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://furaffinity.net/user/greenreaper/ GreenReaper] at [[Fur Affinity]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.flickr.com/photos/greenreaper/sets/ GreenReaper's photo sets] at [[Wikipedia:Flickr|Flickr]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://inkbunny.net/GreenReaper GreenReaper] at [[Inkbunny]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://greenreaper.wincustomize.com/ GreenReaper] at [[Wikipedia:WinCustomize|WinCustomize]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://greenreaper.deviantart.com/ GreenReaper] at [[Wikipedia:deviantART|deviantART]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/User:GreenReaper    GreenReaper] at [[Wikipedia:Uncyclopedia|Uncyclopedia]]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<id>//en.wikifur.com/wiki/User_talk:Equivamp</id>
		<title>User talk:Equivamp</title>
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				<updated>2011-07-27T03:10:12Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ô: /* Stop it */ new section&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;font size=&amp;quot;+2&amp;quot;&amp;gt;I AM NOT AN ADMIN.&amp;lt;/font size&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Archives==&lt;br /&gt;
Old stuff can be found [[User talk:Equivamp/Archives|here]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Finally got round to editing the Dinosaur page==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hello Equivamp :3&lt;br /&gt;
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I finally got round to fixing that damn Dinosaur page. I hope its up to standard and there are no errors. Please contact me via email if you spot anything that needs changing: Well_Tossed_Salad@hotmail.com.&lt;br /&gt;
Sorry it took so long. I feel it might not contain enough information about its relation to the furry fandom however. Would it be possible to ask that people add that in a separate paragraph on that page, rather than removing the scientific information that I had added, as I have no doubt that it will fill with crud again if the facts are removed.[[User:Palaeofox|Palaeofox]] 10:11, 5 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Blocking Meepsheep ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Wait, so I'm not welcome here? Meepsheep wasn't making negative edits, as far as I saw. We're welcome there, as long as we're good; aren't we supposed to assume good faith? [[File:Scalesona.jpg|40x40px]][[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 10:22, 19 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Meepsheep has been responsible for significant disruption of this wiki in the past few months, as he has [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Meepsheep/Archive|at Wikipedia]] and [[Wikia:c:sonic:Category:Sockpuppets of MeepSheep|several]] [[Wikiquote:Category:Wikiquote sockpuppets of Meepsheep|other]] [http://heroeswiki.com/User_talk:Meepsheep wikis]. Massive, continued proxy abuse, front page and template vandalism, you name it. I have reported this abuse to his ISP on more than one occasion. He is not welcome here, period. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:48, 19 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:To answer your more general question: contributors to WikiFur are expected to remain neutral, and actions which call this neutrality into question are problematic. We ''cannot'' assume you are editing an article about a person in good faith if you are also making fun of them over at ED (or elsewhere). I have blocked at least one editor for this precise activity in the past. You really need to make a choice – do you want to be known as a person who fairly and dispassionately reports on the fandom and those within in, or one who publicly documents the weaknesses and failings of fellow fans for your own amusement? --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:00, 19 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I see. I hadn't realized wikifur was so inclusive, or that I'd ever made any negative edits to this wiki. [[File:Scalesona.jpg|40x40px]][[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 09:29, 20 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::It was not a matter of making negative edits to this wiki. It was purportedly editing in a neutral matter while at the same time spreading shit on ED. I hope that is clear? :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:35, 20 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Templates on transcluded pages ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I just thought I'd point out that when you stick a template on a page that template also appears (in the exact same form) in any pages that it's transcluded in (so for example that info box you marked for merging was transcluded in the article proper, so therefore the template was too). The easiest way to fix that is to use [http://en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=Kogenta/Infobox&amp;amp;curid=25143&amp;amp;diff=332878&amp;amp;oldid=332849 noinclude tags] like that-[[User:El, oh, el|El, oh, el]] 19:22, 21 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bots ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is there anyway to have a bot put ContributorU on user pages, at least the ones with a matching article name? Or, perhaps, one that puts welcome templates on the talk pages of new users? [[File:Scalesona.jpg|40x40px]][[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 19:53, 22 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Both of those are technically feasible, but the first would require writing a bot script and assumes they are the same person, while I'm not sure the second is a good idea in general. Welcomes are at best rather impersonal if you have a bot do them, and at worst end up looking stupid when you start welcoming vandals (faking the last admin to edit signing it only makes it worse, as seen at Wikia). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:02, 22 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::All right. Just a thought I was wondering about. [[File:Scalesona.jpg|40x40px]][[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 20:11, 22 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== encyclopediadramatica.ch Unavailable? ==&lt;br /&gt;
I've gotten a problem; whenever I type in encyclopediadramatica.ch since this morning, it takes me to Virgin Media advanced search ( Virgin Media is my current ISP ). Is anyone else having this problem? Or is VM blocking ED for no good reason? ( kind of like how AT&amp;amp;T blocked 4chan a little while ago ). But anyway, what is wrong with the site?  - [[User:Another n00b|Another n00b]] 10:32, 28 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The domain name does not officially exist, which is why Virgin Media search is coming up (presumably they're one of those who annoyingly take over such results for their own purposes). However, it is registered. This suggests that it has been blocked for some reason, perhaps due to [https://www.nic.ch/reg/index/view.html it's domain registrar's malware policy]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 10:39, 28 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Questions ==&lt;br /&gt;
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What do you define the difference between a [[fursuit]] and an [[wikipedia:animal costume|animal costume]]? The subject has come up at [[wikipedia:Talk:Fursuit#Explanation of edits undone|Wikiepdia's fursuit article]], but I'm a rather poor debater, and feel my opinion is pretty closed-minded. My opinion is that a fursuit is only a fursuit if associated with furry, otherwise, it's an animal or mascot costume. However, I know that some feel an animal costume is a fursuit, and the two are synonymous. I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on this. [[File:Scalesona.jpg|40x40px]][[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 12:43, 28 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:As it happens I was already reading that discussion. I think my response would be much the same as yours - certainly, animal costumes existed, but they were not used for the same reasons, nor (apparently) called the same thing. I might respond there, but I'm a little busy at work now. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:49, 28 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, whenever I try to edit a section or add a new section, the wiki tries to replace the entire text with the section. Any thoughts on why this is? It may have something to do with the fact that I am using Internet Explorer, which gives me problems in general on this Wiki. [[File:Scalesona.jpg|40x40px]][[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 12:45, 28 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:What version of IE is it? Does it happen if you do turn off the advanced editing functions in [[Special:Preferences|preferences]] so that you no longer have the WikiEditor toolbar showing? --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:49, 28 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::It's the newest version. The only difference between the newest version and the older one (which I used on my PC) is that this allows me to edit, as long as I do not scroll down the page, whereas the older would simply lock up my computer if I even went to an edit page. The only way I am able to edit on this laptop I often use is by typing without scrolling too much, and then clicking the &amp;quot;Changes&amp;quot; tab, where it allows me to scroll down to click save. I have just turned off the advanced editing functions, and it still did it. [[File:Scalesona.jpg|40x40px]][[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 13:03, 28 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Twilightwolf4==&lt;br /&gt;
Can anyone revert this user discussion page back to the privious edits by Greenreaper considering there is evidence of this user history of recoloring artwork without the user permission. Not to mention she has been banned from DA for this recently. Original account [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/twilightwolf4/ Twilightwolf4] The evasion account &lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.furaffinity.net/user/twilight-kun/ twilight-kun] The recent journal as well as previous journal confirms this fact. also this account [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/hawkshadow741/ hawkshadow741] the comments give an idea of how many evasions she has made. though there is a lot more information about this user on deviantart considering she is banned from there as well for the same behavior.[[User:Tridragon|Tridragon]] 15:26, 29 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Disregard the email I just sent ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You took care of it. [[File:Scalesona.jpg|40x40px]][[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 21:44, 2 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Actually, now might be a good time to ask. I'd like to be able to fight vandalism with greater ease. And while it wouldn't have helped much in this last situation, would it be too much of me to request rollback privelages? [[File:Scalesona.jpg|40x40px]][[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 21:55, 2 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Sure. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:01, 2 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Wow, really? I was honestly expecting a &amp;quot;I'm sorry, but...&amp;quot; (Especially considering my recent ousting as an EDiot.) Thanks! [[File:Scalesona.jpg|40x40px]][[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 22:06, 2 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Just keep in mind [[Wikipedia:Vandalism#What is not vandalism|what is not vandalism]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:08, 2 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Policy Question ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Do I need permission to write an article about somebody or could I create a stub based off of information on someone simply based off of their FurAffinity information? [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:17, 14 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Anyone can start an article on any topic, unless a personal exclusion is in effect. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:32, 14 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Standard formatting==&lt;br /&gt;
Two things you may want to keep in mind:&lt;br /&gt;
* The entries in an external link list are bulleted with a &amp;quot;*&amp;quot; at the start.&lt;br /&gt;
* The standard category orders go: &amp;quot;People&amp;quot; -&amp;gt; Activity-related (&amp;quot;Artists&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Fursuiters&amp;quot;, etc) -&amp;gt; Species/character categories (&amp;quot;Wolf characters&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Second Life characters&amp;quot;, etc) -&amp;gt; Geographical categories -&amp;gt; Date-related categories.&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Higgs Raccoon|Higgs Raccoon]] 03:35, 16 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:'Kay. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 04:48, 16 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hi ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Please '''stop''' edit waring, an admin has already corrected you! [[User:Ô|Ô]] 18:23, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I also notice you are an ED user, classy. You shouldn't be on here for that reason alone! [[User:Ô|Ô]] 18:36, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I am only trying to '''improve the site'''. Yes, I am new here, but it doesn't take long to see that WikiFur is going downhill. Also, ED users have done nothing but attack this site and the entire community! [[User:Ô|Ô]] 18:47, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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'''See also:''' [[Talk:Felidae (novel)]], [[User talk:ô]], and [[Forum:Forum:Personal attacks by User:Equivamp]]''' &lt;br /&gt;
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'''TL;DR: Trolls trolling trolls'''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Side Note: It's probably [[User:Meepsheep|Meepsheep]], considering both I.P.s are from Colorado.'''&lt;br /&gt;
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== ED article inaccuracies ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Can you please take a look at [[Talk:Encyclopædia_Dramatica_(.ch)#Inaccuracies]]? It concerns material you've added to the article. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 14:51, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Stop it ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 23:10, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ô</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>//en.wikifur.com/wiki/Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica_(.es)</id>
		<title>Encyclopædia Dramatica (.es)</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica_(.es)"/>
				<updated>2011-07-27T03:09:04Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ô: Undo revision 337467 by Equivamp (talk)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{Infobox website &lt;br /&gt;
| title = Encyclopædia Dramatica&lt;br /&gt;
| image = [[File:ED.ch.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
| author = '''Owners:''' Garrett, E, Joepie91&lt;br /&gt;
* '''Site Founder:''' [[Ryan]]&lt;br /&gt;
* '''Admins''': H64 [[User:Meepsheep|Meepsheep]], Zaiger, JuniusThaddeus, DocEvil, Thayo&lt;br /&gt;
| url = [http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/Main_Page encyclopediadramatica.ch]&lt;br /&gt;
*'''IRC''': [irc://irc.wtfux.org/ #ed]&lt;br /&gt;
*'''Forum''': [http://forum.encyclopediadramatica.ch]&lt;br /&gt;
| status =&lt;br /&gt;
| began = April 2011&lt;br /&gt;
| ended = ongoing&lt;br /&gt;
| genre = Multimedia archive&lt;br /&gt;
| rating = {{Rating-nc17-button}}&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Encyclopedia Dramatica (.ch)''', is a cached copy of the original, [[Encyclopædia Dramatica (.com)]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Complications==&lt;br /&gt;
===Member Security===&lt;br /&gt;
On June 27, 2011, ED.ch was hacked, and the email adresses of every member were posted to pastebin and published in a blog owned by anti-Google activist Daniel Brandt entitled ''Encyclopedia Dramatica: There is no Joseph Evers''.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://josephevers.blogspot.com/2011/06/troubles-in-encyclopediadramaticach.html Troubles in Encyclopediadramatica.ch]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Photos and [[Wikipedia:Dox|Dox]] of some of the more prominent users have also been published, particularly of the user named &amp;quot;Zaiger&amp;quot;. Among other things, logs from the [[wikipedia:IRC|IRC]] that show users in a negative light have been posted.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Encyclopedia Dramatica (.ch) and furry ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At present, except for furry based cached articles copied from the original site and one or two &amp;quot;new&amp;quot; articles written by other furries, furry interactions with Encyclopedia Dramatica (.ch) are yet to occur.{{cn}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==References==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;references/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{net-stub}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Critics]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Websites]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:2011 births]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{LinkingSupporter}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ô</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>//en.wikifur.com/wiki/User:%C3%94</id>
		<title>User:Ô</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/User:%C3%94"/>
				<updated>2011-07-27T03:07:57Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ô: Undo revision 337468 by Equivamp (talk)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Hi, you have reached my user page. I don't feel like writing much here, but I don't like red links.&lt;br /&gt;
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I plan on fixing the [[fchan]] article and a few others. Assuming I will stay here after a recent incident involving personal attacks from another user. I don't understand why [[Asshole|GreenReaper]] would be so careless as to completely ignore the attacks made against me.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ô</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>//en.wikifur.com/wiki/User:%C3%94</id>
		<title>User:Ô</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/User:%C3%94"/>
				<updated>2011-07-27T02:17:15Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ô: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Hi, you have reached my user page. I don't feel like writing much here, but I don't like red links.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I plan on fixing the [[fchan]] article and a few others. Assuming I will stay here after a recent incident involving personal attacks from another user. I don't understand why [[Asshole|GreenReaper]] would be so careless as to completely ignore the attacks made against me.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ô</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>//en.wikifur.com/wiki/Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica_(.es)</id>
		<title>Encyclopædia Dramatica (.es)</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica_(.es)"/>
				<updated>2011-07-27T02:14:00Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ô: /* Encyclopedia Dramatica (.ch) and furry */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{Infobox website &lt;br /&gt;
| title = Encyclopædia Dramatica&lt;br /&gt;
| image = [[File:ED.ch.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
| author = '''Owners:''' Garrett, E, Joepie91&lt;br /&gt;
* '''Site Founder:''' [[Ryan]]&lt;br /&gt;
* '''Admins''': H64 [[User:Meepsheep|Meepsheep]], Zaiger, JuniusThaddeus, DocEvil, Thayo&lt;br /&gt;
| url = [http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/Main_Page encyclopediadramatica.ch]&lt;br /&gt;
*'''IRC''': [irc://irc.wtfux.org/ #ed]&lt;br /&gt;
*'''Forum''': [http://forum.encyclopediadramatica.ch]&lt;br /&gt;
| status =&lt;br /&gt;
| began = April 2011&lt;br /&gt;
| ended = ongoing&lt;br /&gt;
| genre = Multimedia archive&lt;br /&gt;
| rating = {{Rating-nc17-button}}&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Encyclopedia Dramatica (.ch)''', is a cached copy of the original, [[Encyclopædia Dramatica (.com)]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Complications==&lt;br /&gt;
===Member Security===&lt;br /&gt;
On June 27, 2011, ED.ch was hacked, and the email adresses of every member were posted to pastebin and published in a blog owned by anti-Google activist Daniel Brandt entitled ''Encyclopedia Dramatica: There is no Joseph Evers''.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://josephevers.blogspot.com/2011/06/troubles-in-encyclopediadramaticach.html Troubles in Encyclopediadramatica.ch]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Photos and [[Wikipedia:Dox|Dox]] of some of the more prominent users have also been published, particularly of the user named &amp;quot;Zaiger&amp;quot;. Among other things, logs from the [[wikipedia:IRC|IRC]] that show users in a negative light have been posted.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Encyclopedia Dramatica (.ch) and furry ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At present, except for furry based cached articles copied from the original site and one or two &amp;quot;new&amp;quot; articles written by other furries, furry interactions with Encyclopedia Dramatica (.ch) are yet to occur.{{cn}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==References==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;references/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{net-stub}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Critics]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Websites]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:2011 births]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{LinkingSupporter}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ô</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>//en.wikifur.com/wiki/Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica_(.es)</id>
		<title>Encyclopædia Dramatica (.es)</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica_(.es)"/>
				<updated>2011-07-27T02:13:10Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ô: Removed unsourced information&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{Infobox website &lt;br /&gt;
| title = Encyclopædia Dramatica&lt;br /&gt;
| image = [[File:ED.ch.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
| author = '''Owners:''' Garrett, E, Joepie91&lt;br /&gt;
* '''Site Founder:''' [[Ryan]]&lt;br /&gt;
* '''Admins''': H64 [[User:Meepsheep|Meepsheep]], Zaiger, JuniusThaddeus, DocEvil, Thayo&lt;br /&gt;
| url = [http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/Main_Page encyclopediadramatica.ch]&lt;br /&gt;
*'''IRC''': [irc://irc.wtfux.org/ #ed]&lt;br /&gt;
*'''Forum''': [http://forum.encyclopediadramatica.ch]&lt;br /&gt;
| status =&lt;br /&gt;
| began = April 2011&lt;br /&gt;
| ended = ongoing&lt;br /&gt;
| genre = Multimedia archive&lt;br /&gt;
| rating = {{Rating-nc17-button}}&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Encyclopedia Dramatica (.ch)''', is a cached copy of the original, [[Encyclopædia Dramatica (.com)]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Complications==&lt;br /&gt;
===Member Security===&lt;br /&gt;
On June 27, 2011, ED.ch was hacked, and the email adresses of every member were posted to pastebin and published in a blog owned by anti-Google activist Daniel Brandt entitled ''Encyclopedia Dramatica: There is no Joseph Evers''.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://josephevers.blogspot.com/2011/06/troubles-in-encyclopediadramaticach.html Troubles in Encyclopediadramatica.ch]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Photos and [[Wikipedia:Dox|Dox]] of some of the more prominent users have also been published, particularly of the user named &amp;quot;Zaiger&amp;quot;. Among other things, logs from the [[wikipedia:IRC|IRC]] that show users in a negative light have been posted.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Encyclopedia Dramatica (.ch) and furry ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At present, except for furry based cached articles copied from the original site and one or two &amp;quot;new&amp;quot; articles written by other furries, furry interactions with Encyclopedia Dramatica (.ch) are yet to occur.&lt;br /&gt;
==References==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;references/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{net-stub}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Critics]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Websites]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:2011 births]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{LinkingSupporter}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ô</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>//en.wikifur.com/wiki/Talk:Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica_(.es)</id>
		<title>Talk:Encyclopædia Dramatica (.es)</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Talk:Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica_(.es)"/>
				<updated>2011-07-27T01:33:30Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ô: /* Back on topic */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Yes, hello. Here are some changes that need to be made to the infobox.&lt;br /&gt;
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Owners: Garrett, E, Joepie91&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Founder: Ryan&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Admins: H64, Meepsheep, Zaiger, JuniusThaddeus, DocEvil, Thayo&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The site history should also mention Ryan's arrest. [[User:Ms. S|Ms. S]] 01:21, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:It would be easy to do it yourself. Of course,  Ryan's arrest had to do with LulzSec, not ED. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] ([[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Equivamp|contribs]]) 04:23, 17 July 2011.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;!-- [Template:Unsigned] --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Inaccuracies ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
ED doesn't use &amp;quot;the same liscense (sic) as WikiFur.&amp;quot; ED's content isn't licensed under CC-BY-SA 3.0. The host dropped ED because it violated [http://www.securedservers.com/aup.php their AUP]. If anything, the DMCA was just a wake-up call, since they apparently don't visit any of the websites they host unless someone calls their PR department. In addition, CloudFlare isn't a webhost. IIRC, Girlvinyl only DMCA'd her article and not the entire site. I'm not even sure if it's necessary to report every bit of downtime ED has. It's certainly important to us now, but would it mean anything years from now? I would like to suggest the use of citations in order to back any claim, but .ch doesn't receive much attention for some reason. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 00:01, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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You're welcome to fix anything. If something is inaccurate, there's no need to start a discussion on it, just remove it. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:18, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Done. I also removed the section on ads. .com's ads were fake, since there weren't any advertisers who wanted to risked affiliating themselves with us. .com's ads were jokes; they were intentionally obscene and distracting. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 17:51, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Deletion/merge? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This article is only serving as vanity for ED.ch users. ED is '''dead''' and the last thing we need is another article on them. I think this page should be deleted, and  the old one restored with a short &amp;quot;mirror&amp;quot; section. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:19, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:ED is run differently and by different people. [[Special:Contributions/174.126.213.241|174.126.213.241]] 02:25, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::This page is just about some fan site that isn't going to last but a few more months. If someone were to create a WikiFur mirror, would it be WikiFur? No. That is the reason we don't need a page on ED.ch. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:29, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::&amp;gt;&amp;quot;...isn't going to last a few more months.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:::Willing to bet on that?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::&amp;gt;&amp;quot;if someone were to create a mirror of WikiFur, would it be WikiFur?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:::That just further argues that they are two different things that need two different articles. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:32, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I am certain it won't last a year. It only has about 1/6 of the user base and it's run by moronic kids who have no clue what the hell they are doing. And no, they don't need different articles. ED died and became Ohinternet, then some jackass decided to steal it. We '''do NOT need this article'''. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:41, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Actually, ED isn't dead. It's at a new domain. They've also been making deals with Girlvinyl, so the ED.com domain may be returned. And, simply because you have the ability to type ad hominem attacks does not make an article less valid. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:49, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Do you have any proof of these &amp;quot;deals&amp;quot;? I don't think so. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:53, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you would like to visit ED's Thizzlehat Junction Center, IRC, or forums, you're more than welcome to. One instamce of a deal being made is that her article be removed so that she would stop false DCMA'ing. I also reccomend talking to a sysop, who would be involved and far more in-the-know than I. Regardless, the article stays. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:58, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:I don't think I'll be sinking that low anytime soon. And who are ''you'' to decide if the article stays? I came here hoping an admin would review the content, and instead got a brat telling me to go to some stupid ED mirror rather than backing their arguements. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:03, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You seem to only be here to cause drama. And, your ad hominems [[Wikifur:NPA|need to stop]]. If you're unwilling to get information, you've no place in a discussion about information. I don't know who you are, but you're being ridiculous. Please stop your drama-mongering, ED or LJ are the proper mediums for that; it's frowned upon here. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:07, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:I came here to get an article we don't need taken down. Instead, I got &amp;quot;OH NO THIS SITE IS COOL, HERE GO LOOK&amp;quot;. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:14, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::I never said the site was cool, and I only refered you to places in which to find the information you'd asked for. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:17, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::Assuming that information can be found there. If you're going to bring that into this, at least provide a source. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:20, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
I did. Yoy refused to &amp;quot;sink that low&amp;quot;, whatever that means. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:23, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:You directed me to the &amp;quot;Thizzlehat Junction Center&amp;quot;, which I checked and has nothing about this at all. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:28, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Oh really? An entire section is devoted to discussion of that topic. I also provided two other sources in case you were unable to find it. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:32, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:It provides no real information, just calls for attacks. And no thank you, I don't think I'll be speaking to any of those losers. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:35, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
If you refuse to look at information given to you upon asking for it, you're beyond my help. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:38, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:You claimed that Girlvinyl would be handing over ED's domain. I see nothing of this. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:40, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I claimed nothing of the sort! I said it was a possibility, which &amp;lt;i&amp;gt;is&amp;lt;/i&amp;gt; discussed on the TJC. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:45, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;quot;They've also been making deals with Girlvinyl, so the ED.com domain may be returned.&amp;quot; Hmm... &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:49, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My point exactly. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:51, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Alright, I'm going to focus on why I made this topic, and I hope you will discuss that.&lt;br /&gt;
===Back on topic===&lt;br /&gt;
Reasons to delete:&lt;br /&gt;
*Non-noteable to the fur community&lt;br /&gt;
*The site is only a mirror&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 04:07, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The site has a Portal for &amp;quot;furfaggotry&amp;quot;, it's notable.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The site also has content that was not on old ED, furry articles included. Next excuse. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 04:11, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Just because there are a few new (abusive) articles doesn't mean we need a page about a website that is primarily made up of stolen content. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 04:16, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It isn't stolen content, and it has probably close to 200 furry-related articles. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 04:19, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:We are not getting anywhere with you repeating yourself by posting the same things as above. You clearly do not wish to take this seriously, and thus do not belong here. This is why I wanted someone else involved in this. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 13:38, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This whole thing wasn't serious. The reason no one else got involved is because they know this, but don't find you as humorous as I do. ^^ [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:44, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
No. The reason nobody else was involved is because the admins here only care about page quantity. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 13:58, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
insulting admins=great way to get them involved [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:04, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I'm sorry that the lack of admin attention to this site has killed it. No wonder the only people who edit are IPs making vanity articles. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 19:30, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Really? I see plenty of registered users in the [[Special:Recent Changes|RC]]. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:39, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Once again, they are only here to write articles on themselves. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 20:02, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I have no time for fools. Goodbye. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:09, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I also have no time for people like you. I will now wait for an admin to take action. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 21:33, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ô</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>//en.wikifur.com/wiki/Talk:Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica_(.es)</id>
		<title>Talk:Encyclopædia Dramatica (.es)</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Talk:Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica_(.es)"/>
				<updated>2011-07-27T00:02:36Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ô: /* Back on topic */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Yes, hello. Here are some changes that need to be made to the infobox.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Owners: Garrett, E, Joepie91&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Founder: Ryan&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Admins: H64, Meepsheep, Zaiger, JuniusThaddeus, DocEvil, Thayo&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The site history should also mention Ryan's arrest. [[User:Ms. S|Ms. S]] 01:21, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:It would be easy to do it yourself. Of course,  Ryan's arrest had to do with LulzSec, not ED. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] ([[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Equivamp|contribs]]) 04:23, 17 July 2011.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;!-- [Template:Unsigned] --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Inaccuracies ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
ED doesn't use &amp;quot;the same liscense (sic) as WikiFur.&amp;quot; ED's content isn't licensed under CC-BY-SA 3.0. The host dropped ED because it violated [http://www.securedservers.com/aup.php their AUP]. If anything, the DMCA was just a wake-up call, since they apparently don't visit any of the websites they host unless someone calls their PR department. In addition, CloudFlare isn't a webhost. IIRC, Girlvinyl only DMCA'd her article and not the entire site. I'm not even sure if it's necessary to report every bit of downtime ED has. It's certainly important to us now, but would it mean anything years from now? I would like to suggest the use of citations in order to back any claim, but .ch doesn't receive much attention for some reason. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 00:01, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You're welcome to fix anything. If something is inaccurate, there's no need to start a discussion on it, just remove it. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:18, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Done. I also removed the section on ads. .com's ads were fake, since there weren't any advertisers who wanted to risked affiliating themselves with us. .com's ads were jokes; they were intentionally obscene and distracting. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 17:51, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Deletion/merge? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This article is only serving as vanity for ED.ch users. ED is '''dead''' and the last thing we need is another article on them. I think this page should be deleted, and  the old one restored with a short &amp;quot;mirror&amp;quot; section. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:19, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:ED is run differently and by different people. [[Special:Contributions/174.126.213.241|174.126.213.241]] 02:25, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::This page is just about some fan site that isn't going to last but a few more months. If someone were to create a WikiFur mirror, would it be WikiFur? No. That is the reason we don't need a page on ED.ch. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:29, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::&amp;gt;&amp;quot;...isn't going to last a few more months.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:::Willing to bet on that?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::&amp;gt;&amp;quot;if someone were to create a mirror of WikiFur, would it be WikiFur?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:::That just further argues that they are two different things that need two different articles. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:32, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I am certain it won't last a year. It only has about 1/6 of the user base and it's run by moronic kids who have no clue what the hell they are doing. And no, they don't need different articles. ED died and became Ohinternet, then some jackass decided to steal it. We '''do NOT need this article'''. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:41, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Actually, ED isn't dead. It's at a new domain. They've also been making deals with Girlvinyl, so the ED.com domain may be returned. And, simply because you have the ability to type ad hominem attacks does not make an article less valid. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:49, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Do you have any proof of these &amp;quot;deals&amp;quot;? I don't think so. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:53, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you would like to visit ED's Thizzlehat Junction Center, IRC, or forums, you're more than welcome to. One instamce of a deal being made is that her article be removed so that she would stop false DCMA'ing. I also reccomend talking to a sysop, who would be involved and far more in-the-know than I. Regardless, the article stays. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:58, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:I don't think I'll be sinking that low anytime soon. And who are ''you'' to decide if the article stays? I came here hoping an admin would review the content, and instead got a brat telling me to go to some stupid ED mirror rather than backing their arguements. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:03, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You seem to only be here to cause drama. And, your ad hominems [[Wikifur:NPA|need to stop]]. If you're unwilling to get information, you've no place in a discussion about information. I don't know who you are, but you're being ridiculous. Please stop your drama-mongering, ED or LJ are the proper mediums for that; it's frowned upon here. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:07, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:I came here to get an article we don't need taken down. Instead, I got &amp;quot;OH NO THIS SITE IS COOL, HERE GO LOOK&amp;quot;. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:14, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::I never said the site was cool, and I only refered you to places in which to find the information you'd asked for. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:17, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::Assuming that information can be found there. If you're going to bring that into this, at least provide a source. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:20, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
I did. Yoy refused to &amp;quot;sink that low&amp;quot;, whatever that means. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:23, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:You directed me to the &amp;quot;Thizzlehat Junction Center&amp;quot;, which I checked and has nothing about this at all. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:28, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Oh really? An entire section is devoted to discussion of that topic. I also provided two other sources in case you were unable to find it. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:32, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:It provides no real information, just calls for attacks. And no thank you, I don't think I'll be speaking to any of those losers. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:35, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
If you refuse to look at information given to you upon asking for it, you're beyond my help. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:38, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:You claimed that Girlvinyl would be handing over ED's domain. I see nothing of this. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:40, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I claimed nothing of the sort! I said it was a possibility, which &amp;lt;i&amp;gt;is&amp;lt;/i&amp;gt; discussed on the TJC. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:45, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;quot;They've also been making deals with Girlvinyl, so the ED.com domain may be returned.&amp;quot; Hmm... &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:49, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My point exactly. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:51, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Alright, I'm going to focus on why I made this topic, and I hope you will discuss that.&lt;br /&gt;
===Back on topic===&lt;br /&gt;
Reasons to delete:&lt;br /&gt;
*Non-noteable to the fur community&lt;br /&gt;
*The site is only a mirror&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 04:07, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The site has a Portal for &amp;quot;furfaggotry&amp;quot;, it's notable.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The site also has content that was not on old ED, furry articles included. Next excuse. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 04:11, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Just because there are a few new (abusive) articles doesn't mean we need a page about a website that is primarily made up of stolen content. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 04:16, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It isn't stolen content, and it has probably close to 200 furry-related articles. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 04:19, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:We are not getting anywhere with you repeating yourself by posting the same things as above. You clearly do not wish to take this seriously, and thus do not belong here. This is why I wanted someone else involved in this. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 13:38, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This whole thing wasn't serious. The reason no one else got involved is because they know this, but don't find you as humorous as I do. ^^ [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:44, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
No. The reason nobody else was involved is because the admins here only care about page quantity. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 13:58, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
insulting admins=great way to get them involved [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:04, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I'm sorry that the lack of admin attention to this site has killed it. No wonder the only people who edit are IPs making vanity articles. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 19:30, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Really? I see plenty of registered users in the [[Special:Recent Changes|RC]]. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:39, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Once again, they are only here to write articles on themselves. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 20:02, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ô</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>//en.wikifur.com/wiki/Talk:Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica_(.es)</id>
		<title>Talk:Encyclopædia Dramatica (.es)</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Talk:Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica_(.es)"/>
				<updated>2011-07-26T23:31:15Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ô: /* Back on topic */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Yes, hello. Here are some changes that need to be made to the infobox.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Owners: Garrett, E, Joepie91&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Founder: Ryan&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Admins: H64, Meepsheep, Zaiger, JuniusThaddeus, DocEvil, Thayo&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The site history should also mention Ryan's arrest. [[User:Ms. S|Ms. S]] 01:21, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:It would be easy to do it yourself. Of course,  Ryan's arrest had to do with LulzSec, not ED. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] ([[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Equivamp|contribs]]) 04:23, 17 July 2011.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;!-- [Template:Unsigned] --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Inaccuracies ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
ED doesn't use &amp;quot;the same liscense (sic) as WikiFur.&amp;quot; ED's content isn't licensed under CC-BY-SA 3.0. The host dropped ED because it violated [http://www.securedservers.com/aup.php their AUP]. If anything, the DMCA was just a wake-up call, since they apparently don't visit any of the websites they host unless someone calls their PR department. In addition, CloudFlare isn't a webhost. IIRC, Girlvinyl only DMCA'd her article and not the entire site. I'm not even sure if it's necessary to report every bit of downtime ED has. It's certainly important to us now, but would it mean anything years from now? I would like to suggest the use of citations in order to back any claim, but .ch doesn't receive much attention for some reason. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 00:01, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You're welcome to fix anything. If something is inaccurate, there's no need to start a discussion on it, just remove it. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:18, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Done. I also removed the section on ads. .com's ads were fake, since there weren't any advertisers who wanted to risked affiliating themselves with us. .com's ads were jokes; they were intentionally obscene and distracting. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 17:51, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Deletion/merge? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This article is only serving as vanity for ED.ch users. ED is '''dead''' and the last thing we need is another article on them. I think this page should be deleted, and  the old one restored with a short &amp;quot;mirror&amp;quot; section. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:19, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:ED is run differently and by different people. [[Special:Contributions/174.126.213.241|174.126.213.241]] 02:25, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::This page is just about some fan site that isn't going to last but a few more months. If someone were to create a WikiFur mirror, would it be WikiFur? No. That is the reason we don't need a page on ED.ch. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:29, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::&amp;gt;&amp;quot;...isn't going to last a few more months.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:::Willing to bet on that?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::&amp;gt;&amp;quot;if someone were to create a mirror of WikiFur, would it be WikiFur?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:::That just further argues that they are two different things that need two different articles. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:32, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I am certain it won't last a year. It only has about 1/6 of the user base and it's run by moronic kids who have no clue what the hell they are doing. And no, they don't need different articles. ED died and became Ohinternet, then some jackass decided to steal it. We '''do NOT need this article'''. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:41, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Actually, ED isn't dead. It's at a new domain. They've also been making deals with Girlvinyl, so the ED.com domain may be returned. And, simply because you have the ability to type ad hominem attacks does not make an article less valid. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:49, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Do you have any proof of these &amp;quot;deals&amp;quot;? I don't think so. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:53, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you would like to visit ED's Thizzlehat Junction Center, IRC, or forums, you're more than welcome to. One instamce of a deal being made is that her article be removed so that she would stop false DCMA'ing. I also reccomend talking to a sysop, who would be involved and far more in-the-know than I. Regardless, the article stays. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:58, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:I don't think I'll be sinking that low anytime soon. And who are ''you'' to decide if the article stays? I came here hoping an admin would review the content, and instead got a brat telling me to go to some stupid ED mirror rather than backing their arguements. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:03, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You seem to only be here to cause drama. And, your ad hominems [[Wikifur:NPA|need to stop]]. If you're unwilling to get information, you've no place in a discussion about information. I don't know who you are, but you're being ridiculous. Please stop your drama-mongering, ED or LJ are the proper mediums for that; it's frowned upon here. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:07, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:I came here to get an article we don't need taken down. Instead, I got &amp;quot;OH NO THIS SITE IS COOL, HERE GO LOOK&amp;quot;. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:14, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::I never said the site was cool, and I only refered you to places in which to find the information you'd asked for. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:17, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::Assuming that information can be found there. If you're going to bring that into this, at least provide a source. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:20, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
I did. Yoy refused to &amp;quot;sink that low&amp;quot;, whatever that means. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:23, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:You directed me to the &amp;quot;Thizzlehat Junction Center&amp;quot;, which I checked and has nothing about this at all. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:28, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Oh really? An entire section is devoted to discussion of that topic. I also provided two other sources in case you were unable to find it. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:32, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:It provides no real information, just calls for attacks. And no thank you, I don't think I'll be speaking to any of those losers. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:35, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
If you refuse to look at information given to you upon asking for it, you're beyond my help. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:38, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:You claimed that Girlvinyl would be handing over ED's domain. I see nothing of this. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:40, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I claimed nothing of the sort! I said it was a possibility, which &amp;lt;i&amp;gt;is&amp;lt;/i&amp;gt; discussed on the TJC. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:45, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;quot;They've also been making deals with Girlvinyl, so the ED.com domain may be returned.&amp;quot; Hmm... &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:49, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My point exactly. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:51, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Alright, I'm going to focus on why I made this topic, and I hope you will discuss that.&lt;br /&gt;
===Back on topic===&lt;br /&gt;
Reasons to delete:&lt;br /&gt;
*Non-noteable to the fur community&lt;br /&gt;
*The site is only a mirror&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 04:07, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The site has a Portal for &amp;quot;furfaggotry&amp;quot;, it's notable.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The site also has content that was not on old ED, furry articles included. Next excuse. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 04:11, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Just because there are a few new (abusive) articles doesn't mean we need a page about a website that is primarily made up of stolen content. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 04:16, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It isn't stolen content, and it has probably close to 200 furry-related articles. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 04:19, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:We are not getting anywhere with you repeating yourself by posting the same things as above. You clearly do not wish to take this seriously, and thus do not belong here. This is why I wanted someone else involved in this. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 13:38, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This whole thing wasn't serious. The reason no one else got involved is because they know this, but don't find you as humorous as I do. ^^ [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:44, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
No. The reason nobody else was involved is because the admins here only care about page quantity. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 13:58, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
insulting admins=great way to get them involved [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:04, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I'm sorry that the lack of admin attention to this site has killed it. No wonder the only people who edit are IPs making vanity articles. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 19:30, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>//en.wikifur.com/wiki/Talk:Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica_(.es)</id>
		<title>Talk:Encyclopædia Dramatica (.es)</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Talk:Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica_(.es)"/>
				<updated>2011-07-26T23:30:06Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ô: /* Back on topic */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Yes, hello. Here are some changes that need to be made to the infobox.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Owners: Garrett, E, Joepie91&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Founder: Ryan&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Admins: H64, Meepsheep, Zaiger, JuniusThaddeus, DocEvil, Thayo&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The site history should also mention Ryan's arrest. [[User:Ms. S|Ms. S]] 01:21, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:It would be easy to do it yourself. Of course,  Ryan's arrest had to do with LulzSec, not ED. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] ([[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Equivamp|contribs]]) 04:23, 17 July 2011.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;!-- [Template:Unsigned] --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Inaccuracies ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
ED doesn't use &amp;quot;the same liscense (sic) as WikiFur.&amp;quot; ED's content isn't licensed under CC-BY-SA 3.0. The host dropped ED because it violated [http://www.securedservers.com/aup.php their AUP]. If anything, the DMCA was just a wake-up call, since they apparently don't visit any of the websites they host unless someone calls their PR department. In addition, CloudFlare isn't a webhost. IIRC, Girlvinyl only DMCA'd her article and not the entire site. I'm not even sure if it's necessary to report every bit of downtime ED has. It's certainly important to us now, but would it mean anything years from now? I would like to suggest the use of citations in order to back any claim, but .ch doesn't receive much attention for some reason. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 00:01, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You're welcome to fix anything. If something is inaccurate, there's no need to start a discussion on it, just remove it. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:18, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Done. I also removed the section on ads. .com's ads were fake, since there weren't any advertisers who wanted to risked affiliating themselves with us. .com's ads were jokes; they were intentionally obscene and distracting. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 17:51, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Deletion/merge? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This article is only serving as vanity for ED.ch users. ED is '''dead''' and the last thing we need is another article on them. I think this page should be deleted, and  the old one restored with a short &amp;quot;mirror&amp;quot; section. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:19, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:ED is run differently and by different people. [[Special:Contributions/174.126.213.241|174.126.213.241]] 02:25, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::This page is just about some fan site that isn't going to last but a few more months. If someone were to create a WikiFur mirror, would it be WikiFur? No. That is the reason we don't need a page on ED.ch. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:29, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::&amp;gt;&amp;quot;...isn't going to last a few more months.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:::Willing to bet on that?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::&amp;gt;&amp;quot;if someone were to create a mirror of WikiFur, would it be WikiFur?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:::That just further argues that they are two different things that need two different articles. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:32, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I am certain it won't last a year. It only has about 1/6 of the user base and it's run by moronic kids who have no clue what the hell they are doing. And no, they don't need different articles. ED died and became Ohinternet, then some jackass decided to steal it. We '''do NOT need this article'''. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:41, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Actually, ED isn't dead. It's at a new domain. They've also been making deals with Girlvinyl, so the ED.com domain may be returned. And, simply because you have the ability to type ad hominem attacks does not make an article less valid. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:49, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Do you have any proof of these &amp;quot;deals&amp;quot;? I don't think so. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:53, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you would like to visit ED's Thizzlehat Junction Center, IRC, or forums, you're more than welcome to. One instamce of a deal being made is that her article be removed so that she would stop false DCMA'ing. I also reccomend talking to a sysop, who would be involved and far more in-the-know than I. Regardless, the article stays. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:58, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:I don't think I'll be sinking that low anytime soon. And who are ''you'' to decide if the article stays? I came here hoping an admin would review the content, and instead got a brat telling me to go to some stupid ED mirror rather than backing their arguements. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:03, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You seem to only be here to cause drama. And, your ad hominems [[Wikifur:NPA|need to stop]]. If you're unwilling to get information, you've no place in a discussion about information. I don't know who you are, but you're being ridiculous. Please stop your drama-mongering, ED or LJ are the proper mediums for that; it's frowned upon here. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:07, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:I came here to get an article we don't need taken down. Instead, I got &amp;quot;OH NO THIS SITE IS COOL, HERE GO LOOK&amp;quot;. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:14, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::I never said the site was cool, and I only refered you to places in which to find the information you'd asked for. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:17, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::Assuming that information can be found there. If you're going to bring that into this, at least provide a source. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:20, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
I did. Yoy refused to &amp;quot;sink that low&amp;quot;, whatever that means. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:23, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:You directed me to the &amp;quot;Thizzlehat Junction Center&amp;quot;, which I checked and has nothing about this at all. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:28, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Oh really? An entire section is devoted to discussion of that topic. I also provided two other sources in case you were unable to find it. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:32, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:It provides no real information, just calls for attacks. And no thank you, I don't think I'll be speaking to any of those losers. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:35, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
If you refuse to look at information given to you upon asking for it, you're beyond my help. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:38, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:You claimed that Girlvinyl would be handing over ED's domain. I see nothing of this. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:40, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I claimed nothing of the sort! I said it was a possibility, which &amp;lt;i&amp;gt;is&amp;lt;/i&amp;gt; discussed on the TJC. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:45, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;quot;They've also been making deals with Girlvinyl, so the ED.com domain may be returned.&amp;quot; Hmm... &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:49, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My point exactly. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:51, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Alright, I'm going to focus on why I made this topic, and I hope you will discuss that.&lt;br /&gt;
===Back on topic===&lt;br /&gt;
Reasons to delete:&lt;br /&gt;
*Non-noteable to the fur community&lt;br /&gt;
*The site is only a mirror&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 04:07, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The site has a Portal for &amp;quot;furfaggotry&amp;quot;, it's notable.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The site also has content that was not on old ED, furry articles included. Next excuse. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 04:11, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Just because there are a few new (abusive) articles doesn't mean we need a page about a website that is primarily made up of stolen content. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 04:16, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It isn't stolen content, and it has probably close to 200 furry-related articles. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 04:19, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:We are not getting anywhere with you repeating yourself by posting the same things as above. You clearly do not wish to take this seriously, and thus do not belong here. This is why I wanted someone else involved in this. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 13:38, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This whole thing wasn't serious. The reason no one else got involved is because they know this, but don't find you as humorous as I do. ^^ [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:44, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
No. The reason nobody else was involved is because the admins here only care about page quantity. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 13:58, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
insulting admins=great way to get them involved [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:04, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I'm sorry that the lack of admin attention to this site has killed it. No wonder the only people who&lt;br /&gt;
edit are IPs making vanity articles. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 19:30, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	<entry>
		<id>//en.wikifur.com/wiki/Talk:Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica_(.es)</id>
		<title>Talk:Encyclopædia Dramatica (.es)</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Talk:Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica_(.es)"/>
				<updated>2011-07-26T17:58:00Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ô: /* Back on topic */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Yes, hello. Here are some changes that need to be made to the infobox.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Owners: Garrett, E, Joepie91&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Founder: Ryan&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Admins: H64, Meepsheep, Zaiger, JuniusThaddeus, DocEvil, Thayo&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The site history should also mention Ryan's arrest. [[User:Ms. S|Ms. S]] 01:21, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:It would be easy to do it yourself. Of course,  Ryan's arrest had to do with LulzSec, not ED. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] ([[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Equivamp|contribs]]) 04:23, 17 July 2011.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;!-- [Template:Unsigned] --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Inaccuracies ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
ED doesn't use &amp;quot;the same liscense (sic) as WikiFur.&amp;quot; ED's content isn't licensed under CC-BY-SA 3.0. The host dropped ED because it violated [http://www.securedservers.com/aup.php their AUP]. If anything, the DMCA was just a wake-up call, since they apparently don't visit any of the websites they host unless someone calls their PR department. In addition, CloudFlare isn't a webhost. IIRC, Girlvinyl only DMCA'd her article and not the entire site. I'm not even sure if it's necessary to report every bit of downtime ED has. It's certainly important to us now, but would it mean anything years from now? I would like to suggest the use of citations in order to back any claim, but .ch doesn't receive much attention for some reason. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 00:01, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You're welcome to fix anything. If something is inaccurate, there's no need to start a discussion on it, just remove it. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:18, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Done. I also removed the section on ads. .com's ads were fake, since there weren't any advertisers who wanted to risked affiliating themselves with us. .com's ads were jokes; they were intentionally obscene and distracting. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 17:51, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Deletion/merge? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This article is only serving as vanity for ED.ch users. ED is '''dead''' and the last thing we need is another article on them. I think this page should be deleted, and  the old one restored with a short &amp;quot;mirror&amp;quot; section. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:19, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:ED is run differently and by different people. [[Special:Contributions/174.126.213.241|174.126.213.241]] 02:25, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::This page is just about some fan site that isn't going to last but a few more months. If someone were to create a WikiFur mirror, would it be WikiFur? No. That is the reason we don't need a page on ED.ch. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:29, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::&amp;gt;&amp;quot;...isn't going to last a few more months.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:::Willing to bet on that?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::&amp;gt;&amp;quot;if someone were to create a mirror of WikiFur, would it be WikiFur?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:::That just further argues that they are two different things that need two different articles. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:32, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I am certain it won't last a year. It only has about 1/6 of the user base and it's run by moronic kids who have no clue what the hell they are doing. And no, they don't need different articles. ED died and became Ohinternet, then some jackass decided to steal it. We '''do NOT need this article'''. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:41, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Actually, ED isn't dead. It's at a new domain. They've also been making deals with Girlvinyl, so the ED.com domain may be returned. And, simply because you have the ability to type ad hominem attacks does not make an article less valid. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:49, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Do you have any proof of these &amp;quot;deals&amp;quot;? I don't think so. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:53, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you would like to visit ED's Thizzlehat Junction Center, IRC, or forums, you're more than welcome to. One instamce of a deal being made is that her article be removed so that she would stop false DCMA'ing. I also reccomend talking to a sysop, who would be involved and far more in-the-know than I. Regardless, the article stays. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:58, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:I don't think I'll be sinking that low anytime soon. And who are ''you'' to decide if the article stays? I came here hoping an admin would review the content, and instead got a brat telling me to go to some stupid ED mirror rather than backing their arguements. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:03, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You seem to only be here to cause drama. And, your ad hominems [[Wikifur:NPA|need to stop]]. If you're unwilling to get information, you've no place in a discussion about information. I don't know who you are, but you're being ridiculous. Please stop your drama-mongering, ED or LJ are the proper mediums for that; it's frowned upon here. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:07, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:I came here to get an article we don't need taken down. Instead, I got &amp;quot;OH NO THIS SITE IS COOL, HERE GO LOOK&amp;quot;. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:14, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::I never said the site was cool, and I only refered you to places in which to find the information you'd asked for. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:17, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::Assuming that information can be found there. If you're going to bring that into this, at least provide a source. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:20, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
I did. Yoy refused to &amp;quot;sink that low&amp;quot;, whatever that means. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:23, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:You directed me to the &amp;quot;Thizzlehat Junction Center&amp;quot;, which I checked and has nothing about this at all. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:28, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Oh really? An entire section is devoted to discussion of that topic. I also provided two other sources in case you were unable to find it. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:32, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:It provides no real information, just calls for attacks. And no thank you, I don't think I'll be speaking to any of those losers. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:35, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
If you refuse to look at information given to you upon asking for it, you're beyond my help. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:38, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:You claimed that Girlvinyl would be handing over ED's domain. I see nothing of this. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:40, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I claimed nothing of the sort! I said it was a possibility, which &amp;lt;i&amp;gt;is&amp;lt;/i&amp;gt; discussed on the TJC. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:45, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;quot;They've also been making deals with Girlvinyl, so the ED.com domain may be returned.&amp;quot; Hmm... &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:49, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My point exactly. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:51, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Alright, I'm going to focus on why I made this topic, and I hope you will discuss that.&lt;br /&gt;
===Back on topic===&lt;br /&gt;
Reasons to delete:&lt;br /&gt;
*Non-noteable to the fur community&lt;br /&gt;
*The site is only a mirror&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 04:07, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The site has a Portal for &amp;quot;furfaggotry&amp;quot;, it's notable.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The site also has content that was not on old ED, furry articles included. Next excuse. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 04:11, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Just because there are a few new (abusive) articles doesn't mean we need a page about a website that is primarily made up of stolen content. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 04:16, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It isn't stolen content, and it has probably close to 200 furry-related articles. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 04:19, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:We are not getting anywhere with you repeating yourself by posting the same things as above. You clearly do not wish to take this seriously, and thus do not belong here. This is why I wanted someone else involved in this. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 13:38, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This whole thing wasn't serious. The reason no one else got involved is because they know this, but don't find you as humorous as I do. ^^ [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:44, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
No. The reason nobody else was involved is because the admins here only care about page quantity. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 13:58, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ô</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>//en.wikifur.com/wiki/Talk:Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica_(.es)</id>
		<title>Talk:Encyclopædia Dramatica (.es)</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Talk:Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica_(.es)"/>
				<updated>2011-07-26T17:38:06Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ô: /* Back on topic */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Yes, hello. Here are some changes that need to be made to the infobox.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Owners: Garrett, E, Joepie91&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Founder: Ryan&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Admins: H64, Meepsheep, Zaiger, JuniusThaddeus, DocEvil, Thayo&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The site history should also mention Ryan's arrest. [[User:Ms. S|Ms. S]] 01:21, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:It would be easy to do it yourself. Of course,  Ryan's arrest had to do with LulzSec, not ED. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] ([[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Equivamp|contribs]]) 04:23, 17 July 2011.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;!-- [Template:Unsigned] --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Inaccuracies ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
ED doesn't use &amp;quot;the same liscense (sic) as WikiFur.&amp;quot; ED's content isn't licensed under CC-BY-SA 3.0. The host dropped ED because it violated [http://www.securedservers.com/aup.php their AUP]. If anything, the DMCA was just a wake-up call, since they apparently don't visit any of the websites they host unless someone calls their PR department. In addition, CloudFlare isn't a webhost. IIRC, Girlvinyl only DMCA'd her article and not the entire site. I'm not even sure if it's necessary to report every bit of downtime ED has. It's certainly important to us now, but would it mean anything years from now? I would like to suggest the use of citations in order to back any claim, but .ch doesn't receive much attention for some reason. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 00:01, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You're welcome to fix anything. If something is inaccurate, there's no need to start a discussion on it, just remove it. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:18, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Done. I also removed the section on ads. .com's ads were fake, since there weren't any advertisers who wanted to risked affiliating themselves with us. .com's ads were jokes; they were intentionally obscene and distracting. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 17:51, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Deletion/merge? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This article is only serving as vanity for ED.ch users. ED is '''dead''' and the last thing we need is another article on them. I think this page should be deleted, and  the old one restored with a short &amp;quot;mirror&amp;quot; section. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:19, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:ED is run differently and by different people. [[Special:Contributions/174.126.213.241|174.126.213.241]] 02:25, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::This page is just about some fan site that isn't going to last but a few more months. If someone were to create a WikiFur mirror, would it be WikiFur? No. That is the reason we don't need a page on ED.ch. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:29, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::&amp;gt;&amp;quot;...isn't going to last a few more months.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:::Willing to bet on that?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::&amp;gt;&amp;quot;if someone were to create a mirror of WikiFur, would it be WikiFur?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:::That just further argues that they are two different things that need two different articles. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:32, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I am certain it won't last a year. It only has about 1/6 of the user base and it's run by moronic kids who have no clue what the hell they are doing. And no, they don't need different articles. ED died and became Ohinternet, then some jackass decided to steal it. We '''do NOT need this article'''. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:41, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Actually, ED isn't dead. It's at a new domain. They've also been making deals with Girlvinyl, so the ED.com domain may be returned. And, simply because you have the ability to type ad hominem attacks does not make an article less valid. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:49, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Do you have any proof of these &amp;quot;deals&amp;quot;? I don't think so. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:53, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you would like to visit ED's Thizzlehat Junction Center, IRC, or forums, you're more than welcome to. One instamce of a deal being made is that her article be removed so that she would stop false DCMA'ing. I also reccomend talking to a sysop, who would be involved and far more in-the-know than I. Regardless, the article stays. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:58, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:I don't think I'll be sinking that low anytime soon. And who are ''you'' to decide if the article stays? I came here hoping an admin would review the content, and instead got a brat telling me to go to some stupid ED mirror rather than backing their arguements. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:03, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You seem to only be here to cause drama. And, your ad hominems [[Wikifur:NPA|need to stop]]. If you're unwilling to get information, you've no place in a discussion about information. I don't know who you are, but you're being ridiculous. Please stop your drama-mongering, ED or LJ are the proper mediums for that; it's frowned upon here. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:07, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:I came here to get an article we don't need taken down. Instead, I got &amp;quot;OH NO THIS SITE IS COOL, HERE GO LOOK&amp;quot;. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:14, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::I never said the site was cool, and I only refered you to places in which to find the information you'd asked for. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:17, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::Assuming that information can be found there. If you're going to bring that into this, at least provide a source. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:20, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
I did. Yoy refused to &amp;quot;sink that low&amp;quot;, whatever that means. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:23, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:You directed me to the &amp;quot;Thizzlehat Junction Center&amp;quot;, which I checked and has nothing about this at all. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:28, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Oh really? An entire section is devoted to discussion of that topic. I also provided two other sources in case you were unable to find it. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:32, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:It provides no real information, just calls for attacks. And no thank you, I don't think I'll be speaking to any of those losers. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:35, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
If you refuse to look at information given to you upon asking for it, you're beyond my help. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:38, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:You claimed that Girlvinyl would be handing over ED's domain. I see nothing of this. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:40, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I claimed nothing of the sort! I said it was a possibility, which &amp;lt;i&amp;gt;is&amp;lt;/i&amp;gt; discussed on the TJC. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:45, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;quot;They've also been making deals with Girlvinyl, so the ED.com domain may be returned.&amp;quot; Hmm... &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:49, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My point exactly. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:51, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Alright, I'm going to focus on why I made this topic, and I hope you will discuss that.&lt;br /&gt;
===Back on topic===&lt;br /&gt;
Reasons to delete:&lt;br /&gt;
*Non-noteable to the fur community&lt;br /&gt;
*The site is only a mirror&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 04:07, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The site has a Portal for &amp;quot;furfaggotry&amp;quot;, it's notable.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The site also has content that was not on old ED, furry articles included. Next excuse. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 04:11, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Just because there are a few new (abusive) articles doesn't mean we need a page about a website that is primarily made up of stolen content. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 04:16, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It isn't stolen content, and it has probably close to 200 furry-related articles. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 04:19, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:We are not getting anywhere with you repeating yourself by posting the same things as above. You clearly do not wish to take this seriously, and thus do not belong here. This is why I wanted someone else involved in this. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 13:38, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ô</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>//en.wikifur.com/wiki/Talk:Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica_(.es)</id>
		<title>Talk:Encyclopædia Dramatica (.es)</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Talk:Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica_(.es)"/>
				<updated>2011-07-26T08:16:58Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ô: /* Deletion/merge? */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Yes, hello. Here are some changes that need to be made to the infobox.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Owners: Garrett, E, Joepie91&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Founder: Ryan&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Admins: H64, Meepsheep, Zaiger, JuniusThaddeus, DocEvil, Thayo&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The site history should also mention Ryan's arrest. [[User:Ms. S|Ms. S]] 01:21, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:It would be easy to do it yourself. Of course,  Ryan's arrest had to do with LulzSec, not ED. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] ([[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Equivamp|contribs]]) 04:23, 17 July 2011.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;!-- [Template:Unsigned] --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Inaccuracies ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
ED doesn't use &amp;quot;the same liscense (sic) as WikiFur.&amp;quot; ED's content isn't licensed under CC-BY-SA 3.0. The host dropped ED because it violated [http://www.securedservers.com/aup.php their AUP]. If anything, the DMCA was just a wake-up call, since they apparently don't visit any of the websites they host unless someone calls their PR department. In addition, CloudFlare isn't a webhost. IIRC, Girlvinyl only DMCA'd her article and not the entire site. I'm not even sure if it's necessary to report every bit of downtime ED has. It's certainly important to us now, but would it mean anything years from now? I would like to suggest the use of citations in order to back any claim, but .ch doesn't receive much attention for some reason. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 00:01, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You're welcome to fix anything. If something is inaccurate, there's no need to start a discussion on it, just remove it. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:18, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Done. I also removed the section on ads. .com's ads were fake, since there weren't any advertisers who wanted to risked affiliating themselves with us. .com's ads were jokes; they were intentionally obscene and distracting. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 17:51, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Deletion/merge? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This article is only serving as vanity for ED.ch users. ED is '''dead''' and the last thing we need is another article on them. I think this page should be deleted, and  the old one restored with a short &amp;quot;mirror&amp;quot; section. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:19, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:ED is run differently and by different people. [[Special:Contributions/174.126.213.241|174.126.213.241]] 02:25, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::This page is just about some fan site that isn't going to last but a few more months. If someone were to create a WikiFur mirror, would it be WikiFur? No. That is the reason we don't need a page on ED.ch. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:29, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::&amp;gt;&amp;quot;...isn't going to last a few more months.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:::Willing to bet on that?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::&amp;gt;&amp;quot;if someone were to create a mirror of WikiFur, would it be WikiFur?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:::That just further argues that they are two different things that need two different articles. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:32, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I am certain it won't last a year. It only has about 1/6 of the user base and it's run by moronic kids who have no clue what the hell they are doing. And no, they don't need different articles. ED died and became Ohinternet, then some jackass decided to steal it. We '''do NOT need this article'''. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:41, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Actually, ED isn't dead. It's at a new domain. They've also been making deals with Girlvinyl, so the ED.com domain may be returned. And, simply because you have the ability to type ad hominem attacks does not make an article less valid. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:49, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Do you have any proof of these &amp;quot;deals&amp;quot;? I don't think so. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:53, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you would like to visit ED's Thizzlehat Junction Center, IRC, or forums, you're more than welcome to. One instamce of a deal being made is that her article be removed so that she would stop false DCMA'ing. I also reccomend talking to a sysop, who would be involved and far more in-the-know than I. Regardless, the article stays. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:58, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:I don't think I'll be sinking that low anytime soon. And who are ''you'' to decide if the article stays? I came here hoping an admin would review the content, and instead got a brat telling me to go to some stupid ED mirror rather than backing their arguements. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:03, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You seem to only be here to cause drama. And, your ad hominems [[Wikifur:NPA|need to stop]]. If you're unwilling to get information, you've no place in a discussion about information. I don't know who you are, but you're being ridiculous. Please stop your drama-mongering, ED or LJ are the proper mediums for that; it's frowned upon here. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:07, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:I came here to get an article we don't need taken down. Instead, I got &amp;quot;OH NO THIS SITE IS COOL, HERE GO LOOK&amp;quot;. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:14, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::I never said the site was cool, and I only refered you to places in which to find the information you'd asked for. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:17, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::Assuming that information can be found there. If you're going to bring that into this, at least provide a source. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:20, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
I did. Yoy refused to &amp;quot;sink that low&amp;quot;, whatever that means. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:23, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:You directed me to the &amp;quot;Thizzlehat Junction Center&amp;quot;, which I checked and has nothing about this at all. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:28, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Oh really? An entire section is devoted to discussion of that topic. I also provided two other sources in case you were unable to find it. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:32, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:It provides no real information, just calls for attacks. And no thank you, I don't think I'll be speaking to any of those losers. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:35, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
If you refuse to look at information given to you upon asking for it, you're beyond my help. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:38, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:You claimed that Girlvinyl would be handing over ED's domain. I see nothing of this. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:40, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I claimed nothing of the sort! I said it was a possibility, which &amp;lt;i&amp;gt;is&amp;lt;/i&amp;gt; discussed on the TJC. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:45, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;quot;They've also been making deals with Girlvinyl, so the ED.com domain may be returned.&amp;quot; Hmm... &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:49, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My point exactly. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:51, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Alright, I'm going to focus on why I made this topic, and I hope you will discuss that.&lt;br /&gt;
===Back on topic===&lt;br /&gt;
Reasons to delete:&lt;br /&gt;
*Non-noteable to the fur community&lt;br /&gt;
*The site is only a mirror&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 04:07, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The site has a Portal for &amp;quot;furfaggotry&amp;quot;, it's notable.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The site also has content that was not on old ED, furry articles included. Next excuse. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 04:11, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Just because there are a few new (abusive) articles doesn't mean we need a page about a website that is primarily made up of stolen content. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 04:16, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ô</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>//en.wikifur.com/wiki/Talk:Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica_(.es)</id>
		<title>Talk:Encyclopædia Dramatica (.es)</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Talk:Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica_(.es)"/>
				<updated>2011-07-26T08:07:20Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ô: /* Deletion/merge? */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Yes, hello. Here are some changes that need to be made to the infobox.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Owners: Garrett, E, Joepie91&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Founder: Ryan&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Admins: H64, Meepsheep, Zaiger, JuniusThaddeus, DocEvil, Thayo&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The site history should also mention Ryan's arrest. [[User:Ms. S|Ms. S]] 01:21, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:It would be easy to do it yourself. Of course,  Ryan's arrest had to do with LulzSec, not ED. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] ([[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Equivamp|contribs]]) 04:23, 17 July 2011.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;!-- [Template:Unsigned] --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Inaccuracies ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
ED doesn't use &amp;quot;the same liscense (sic) as WikiFur.&amp;quot; ED's content isn't licensed under CC-BY-SA 3.0. The host dropped ED because it violated [http://www.securedservers.com/aup.php their AUP]. If anything, the DMCA was just a wake-up call, since they apparently don't visit any of the websites they host unless someone calls their PR department. In addition, CloudFlare isn't a webhost. IIRC, Girlvinyl only DMCA'd her article and not the entire site. I'm not even sure if it's necessary to report every bit of downtime ED has. It's certainly important to us now, but would it mean anything years from now? I would like to suggest the use of citations in order to back any claim, but .ch doesn't receive much attention for some reason. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 00:01, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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You're welcome to fix anything. If something is inaccurate, there's no need to start a discussion on it, just remove it. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:18, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Done. I also removed the section on ads. .com's ads were fake, since there weren't any advertisers who wanted to risked affiliating themselves with us. .com's ads were jokes; they were intentionally obscene and distracting. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 17:51, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Deletion/merge? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This article is only serving as vanity for ED.ch users. ED is '''dead''' and the last thing we need is another article on them. I think this page should be deleted, and  the old one restored with a short &amp;quot;mirror&amp;quot; section. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:19, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:ED is run differently and by different people. [[Special:Contributions/174.126.213.241|174.126.213.241]] 02:25, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::This page is just about some fan site that isn't going to last but a few more months. If someone were to create a WikiFur mirror, would it be WikiFur? No. That is the reason we don't need a page on ED.ch. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:29, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::&amp;gt;&amp;quot;...isn't going to last a few more months.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:::Willing to bet on that?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::&amp;gt;&amp;quot;if someone were to create a mirror of WikiFur, would it be WikiFur?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:::That just further argues that they are two different things that need two different articles. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:32, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I am certain it won't last a year. It only has about 1/6 of the user base and it's run by moronic kids who have no clue what the hell they are doing. And no, they don't need different articles. ED died and became Ohinternet, then some jackass decided to steal it. We '''do NOT need this article'''. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:41, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Actually, ED isn't dead. It's at a new domain. They've also been making deals with Girlvinyl, so the ED.com domain may be returned. And, simply because you have the ability to type ad hominem attacks does not make an article less valid. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:49, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Do you have any proof of these &amp;quot;deals&amp;quot;? I don't think so. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:53, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you would like to visit ED's Thizzlehat Junction Center, IRC, or forums, you're more than welcome to. One instamce of a deal being made is that her article be removed so that she would stop false DCMA'ing. I also reccomend talking to a sysop, who would be involved and far more in-the-know than I. Regardless, the article stays. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:58, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:I don't think I'll be sinking that low anytime soon. And who are ''you'' to decide if the article stays? I came here hoping an admin would review the content, and instead got a brat telling me to go to some stupid ED mirror rather than backing their arguements. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:03, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You seem to only be here to cause drama. And, your ad hominems [[Wikifur:NPA|need to stop]]. If you're unwilling to get information, you've no place in a discussion about information. I don't know who you are, but you're being ridiculous. Please stop your drama-mongering, ED or LJ are the proper mediums for that; it's frowned upon here. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:07, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I came here to get an article we don't need taken down. Instead, I got &amp;quot;OH NO THIS SITE IS COOL, HERE GO LOOK&amp;quot;. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:14, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::I never said the site was cool, and I only refered you to places in which to find the information you'd asked for. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:17, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Assuming that information can be found there. If you're going to bring that into this, at least provide a source. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:20, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
I did. Yoy refused to &amp;quot;sink that low&amp;quot;, whatever that means. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:23, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You directed me to the &amp;quot;Thizzlehat Junction Center&amp;quot;, which I checked and has nothing about this at all. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:28, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Oh really? An entire section is devoted to discussion of that topic. I also provided two other sources in case you were unable to find it. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:32, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:It provides no real information, just calls for attacks. And no thank you, I don't think I'll be speaking to any of those losers. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:35, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
If you refuse to look at information given to you upon asking for it, you're beyond my help. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:38, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:You claimed that Girlvinyl would be handing over ED's domain. I see nothing of this. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:40, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I claimed nothing of the sort! I said it was a possibility, which &amp;lt;i&amp;gt;is&amp;lt;/i&amp;gt; discussed on the TJC. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:45, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;quot;They've also been making deals with Girlvinyl, so the ED.com domain may be returned.&amp;quot; Hmm... &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:49, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My point exactly. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:51, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Alright, I'm going to focus on why I made this topic, and I hope you will discuss that.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Reasons to delete:&lt;br /&gt;
*Non-noteable to the fur community&lt;br /&gt;
*The site is only a mirror&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 04:07, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ô</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>//en.wikifur.com/wiki/WikiFur:Users</id>
		<title>WikiFur:Users</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/WikiFur:Users"/>
				<updated>2011-07-26T08:00:59Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ô: Redirected page to Special:ListUsers&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;#REDIRECT [[Special:ListUsers]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ô</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>//en.wikifur.com/wiki/User_talk:GreenReaper</id>
		<title>User talk:GreenReaper</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/User_talk:GreenReaper"/>
				<updated>2011-07-26T07:58:10Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ô: /* Hello */ new section&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{User talk:GreenReaper/Header}}&amp;lt;!-- You probably want to add stuff at the bottom of this page --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bots ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Is there anyway to have a bot put ContributorU on user pages, at least the ones with a matching article name? Or, perhaps, one that puts welcome templates on the talk pages of new users? [[File:Scalesona.jpg|40x40px]][[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 19:53, 22 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Both of those are technically feasible, but the first would require writing a bot script and assumes they are the same person, while I'm not sure the second is a good idea in general. Welcomes are at best rather impersonal if you have a bot do them, and at worst end up looking stupid when you start welcoming vandals (faking the last admin to edit signing it only makes it worse, as seen at Wikia). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:01, 22 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::All right. Just a thought I had and thought I'd ask about. [[File:Scalesona.jpg|40x40px]][[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 20:13, 22 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Questions ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
What do you define the difference between a [[fursuit]] and an [[wikipedia:animal costume|animal costume]]? The subject has come up at [[wikipedia:Talk:Fursuit#Explanation of edits undone|Wikiepdia's fursuit article]], but I'm a rather poor debater, and feel my opinion is pretty closed-minded. My opinion is that a fursuit is only a fursuit if associated with furry, otherwise, it's an animal or mascot costume. However, I know that some feel an animal costume is a fursuit, and the two are synonymous. I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on this. [[File:Scalesona.jpg|40x40px]][[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 12:43, 28 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:As it happens I was already reading that discussion. I think my response would be much the same as yours - certainly, animal costumes existed, but they were not used for the same reasons, nor (apparently) called the same thing. I might respond there, but I'm a little busy at work now. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:49, 28 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, whenever I try to edit a section or add a new section, the wiki tries to replace the entire text with the section. Any thoughts on why this is? It may have something to do with the fact that I am using Internet Explorer, which gives me problems in general on this Wiki. [[File:Scalesona.jpg|40x40px]][[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 12:45, 28 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:What version of IE is it? Does it happen if you do turn off the advanced editing functions in [[Special:Preferences|preferences]] so that you no longer have the WikiEditor toolbar showing? --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:49, 28 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
+ ::It's the newest version. The only difference between the newest version and the older one (which I used on my PC) is that this allows me to edit, as long as I do not scroll down the page, whereas the older would simply lock up my computer if I even went to an edit page. The only way I am able to edit on this laptop I often use is by typing without scrolling too much, and then clicking the &amp;quot;Changes&amp;quot; tab, where it allows me to scroll down to click save. I have just turned off the advanced editing functions, and it still did it. [[File:Scalesona.jpg|40x40px]][[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 13:03, 28 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Disregard the email I just sent ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You took care of it. [[File:Scalesona.jpg|40x40px]][[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 21:44, 2 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Actually, now might be a good time to ask. I'd like to be able to fight vandalism with greater ease. And while it wouldn't have helped much in this last situation, would it be too much of me to request rollback privelages? [[File:Scalesona.jpg|40x40px]][[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 21:55, 2 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Sure. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:01, 2 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Wow, really? I was honestly expecting a &amp;quot;I'm sorry, but...&amp;quot; (Especially considering my recent ousting as an EDiot.) Thanks! [[File:Scalesona.jpg|40x40px]][[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 22:06, 2 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Just keep in mind [[Wikipedia:Vandalism#What is not vandalism|what is not vandalism]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:08, 2 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== wikifur.ru ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[:ru:ВикиФур:Портал_сообщества#wikifur.ru|WikiFur:Community_Portal#wikifur.ru]] — There is a discussion of domain and copyright protection (trademarks). --[[User:Dokatamaru|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;text-shadow:black 0.3em 0.3em 0.40em; class=texhtml&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font face=&amp;quot;Segoe Print&amp;quot; color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''SHREW'''&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 22:00, 8 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:''Responded''. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 00:19, 9 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Altering/deleting species profile ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
After a few years of it being there, I suddenly found a user &amp;quot;Spirou&amp;quot; putting my Monoceros page up for deletion.  When I undid his edit and asked why, he deleted it in its entirety and replaced it with a 'redirect'.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Just curious why I was singled out.  Or are all http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Category:Fictional_species pages due to to be similarly deleted/redirected if any single WikiFur editor decides that a 'custom species' isn't to his or her liking?  If you're nuking all of them, then no worries, I understand.  But if it's just this page, I'd really like to know why.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are multiple monoceri played online, and yes, I've referred others (esp. on SpheresMU*) to that page for reference.  Just because no others of them are WikiFur members with their own page yet doesn't mean that the fictional species entry for monoceri should be deleted.  Some fairness or explanation would be highly appreciated. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Tugrik|Tugrik]] ([[User talk:Tugrik|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tugrik|contribs]]) .&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;!-- [Template:Unsigned] --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:''Discussion continued at [[Talk:Monoceros]].'' --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 10:39, 13 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== AFF postings ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Mr Reaper, please do not mention my name at Flayrah.com when linking to AFF postings I made. I do not wish for my name to appear anywhere on that site.  -- Oliver&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:''Replied via email, after figuring out what posts was being talked about. Note: Flayrah has its own [http://www.flayrah.com/contact contact page].'' --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 10:39, 13 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Policy Question ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Do I need permission to write an article about somebody or could I create a stub based off of information on someone simply based off of their FurAffinity information? [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:17, 14 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Anyone can start an article on any topic, unless a personal exclusion is in effect. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:32, 14 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== This has nothing to do with me ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I don't want Meepsheep here any more than you if he acts like this. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:17, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hello ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There is a discussion that needs your attention at [[Talk:Encyclopædia Dramatica (.ch)]] &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:58, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ô</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>//en.wikifur.com/wiki/Talk:Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica_(.es)</id>
		<title>Talk:Encyclopædia Dramatica (.es)</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Talk:Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica_(.es)"/>
				<updated>2011-07-26T07:49:36Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ô: /* Deletion/merge? */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Yes, hello. Here are some changes that need to be made to the infobox.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Owners: Garrett, E, Joepie91&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Founder: Ryan&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Admins: H64, Meepsheep, Zaiger, JuniusThaddeus, DocEvil, Thayo&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The site history should also mention Ryan's arrest. [[User:Ms. S|Ms. S]] 01:21, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:It would be easy to do it yourself. Of course,  Ryan's arrest had to do with LulzSec, not ED. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] ([[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Equivamp|contribs]]) 04:23, 17 July 2011.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;!-- [Template:Unsigned] --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Inaccuracies ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
ED doesn't use &amp;quot;the same liscense (sic) as WikiFur.&amp;quot; ED's content isn't licensed under CC-BY-SA 3.0. The host dropped ED because it violated [http://www.securedservers.com/aup.php their AUP]. If anything, the DMCA was just a wake-up call, since they apparently don't visit any of the websites they host unless someone calls their PR department. In addition, CloudFlare isn't a webhost. IIRC, Girlvinyl only DMCA'd her article and not the entire site. I'm not even sure if it's necessary to report every bit of downtime ED has. It's certainly important to us now, but would it mean anything years from now? I would like to suggest the use of citations in order to back any claim, but .ch doesn't receive much attention for some reason. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 00:01, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You're welcome to fix anything. If something is inaccurate, there's no need to start a discussion on it, just remove it. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:18, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Done. I also removed the section on ads. .com's ads were fake, since there weren't any advertisers who wanted to risked affiliating themselves with us. .com's ads were jokes; they were intentionally obscene and distracting. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 17:51, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Deletion/merge? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This article is only serving as vanity for ED.ch users. ED is '''dead''' and the last thing we need is another article on them. I think this page should be deleted, and  the old one restored with a short &amp;quot;mirror&amp;quot; section. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:19, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:ED is run differently and by different people. [[Special:Contributions/174.126.213.241|174.126.213.241]] 02:25, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::This page is just about some fan site that isn't going to last but a few more months. If someone were to create a WikiFur mirror, would it be WikiFur? No. That is the reason we don't need a page on ED.ch. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:29, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::&amp;gt;&amp;quot;...isn't going to last a few more months.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:::Willing to bet on that?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::&amp;gt;&amp;quot;if someone were to create a mirror of WikiFur, would it be WikiFur?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:::That just further argues that they are two different things that need two different articles. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:32, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I am certain it won't last a year. It only has about 1/6 of the user base and it's run by moronic kids who have no clue what the hell they are doing. And no, they don't need different articles. ED died and became Ohinternet, then some jackass decided to steal it. We '''do NOT need this article'''. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:41, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Actually, ED isn't dead. It's at a new domain. They've also been making deals with Girlvinyl, so the ED.com domain may be returned. And, simply because you have the ability to type ad hominem attacks does not make an article less valid. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:49, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Do you have any proof of these &amp;quot;deals&amp;quot;? I don't think so. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:53, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you would like to visit ED's Thizzlehat Junction Center, IRC, or forums, you're more than welcome to. One instamce of a deal being made is that her article be removed so that she would stop false DCMA'ing. I also reccomend talking to a sysop, who would be involved and far more in-the-know than I. Regardless, the article stays. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:58, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:I don't think I'll be sinking that low anytime soon. And who are ''you'' to decide if the article stays? I came here hoping an admin would review the content, and instead got a brat telling me to go to some stupid ED mirror rather than backing their arguements. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:03, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You seem to only be here to cause drama. And, your ad hominems [[Wikifur:NPA|need to stop]]. If you're unwilling to get information, you've no place in a discussion about information. I don't know who you are, but you're being ridiculous. Please stop your drama-mongering, ED or LJ are the proper mediums for that; it's frowned upon here. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:07, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I came here to get an article we don't need taken down. Instead, I got &amp;quot;OH NO THIS SITE IS COOL, HERE GO LOOK&amp;quot;. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:14, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::I never said the site was cool, and I only refered you to places in which to find the information you'd asked for. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:17, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Assuming that information can be found there. If you're going to bring that into this, at least provide a source. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:20, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
I did. Yoy refused to &amp;quot;sink that low&amp;quot;, whatever that means. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:23, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You directed me to the &amp;quot;Thizzlehat Junction Center&amp;quot;, which I checked and has nothing about this at all. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:28, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Oh really? An entire section is devoted to discussion of that topic. I also provided two other sources in case you were unable to find it. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:32, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:It provides no real information, just calls for attacks. And no thank you, I don't think I'll be speaking to any of those losers. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:35, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
If you refuse to look at information given to you upon asking for it, you're beyond my help. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:38, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:You claimed that Girlvinyl would be handing over ED's domain. I see nothing of this. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:40, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I claimed nothing of the sort! I said it was a possibility, which &amp;lt;i&amp;gt;is&amp;lt;/i&amp;gt; discussed on the TJC. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:45, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;quot;They've also been making deals with Girlvinyl, so the ED.com domain may be returned.&amp;quot; Hmm... &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:49, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ô</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>//en.wikifur.com/wiki/User_talk:%C3%94</id>
		<title>User talk:Ô</title>
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				<updated>2011-07-26T07:43:23Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ô: /* No personal attacks */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{welcome}} [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:43, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Re: Hi ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I wasn't &amp;quot;edit waring[sic]&amp;quot;. I was restoring removed information to an article. Also note the information it was replaced with has been discussed in further detail in another section. Also, the administrator that protected the page was just as much correcting ''you'' as anyone. How about you get off my back and edit more before you start correcting regular contributors, hm? [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:32, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Honestly I feel you are in no position to determine who &amp;quot;belongs here&amp;quot;. ED sysops edit here--I'm just a barely tolerated grammar Nazi on that site, and I was here before I ever went there. Would you like to remain on my back some more, or are we going to go on our merry ways? [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:41, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Actually, no. Even [[User:Michaeldsuarez|an ED sysop]] has made valued contributions to this wiki. But, if you're calling out my integrity, fine--look through my contributions and tell me ''once'' where I have attacked this site. I don't know where you get your infornation from, but it's a load of crap. I guess I should expect that from someone from fchan. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:53, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== No personal attacks ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
That includes vandals. Let's not tell people to &amp;quot;fuck off&amp;quot;. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:25, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Isn't it ironic that you are telling me this, when you are guilty of it? &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:33, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I was guilty of it in the past, yes, but never toward you. Or are you admitting you're a vandal? [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:34, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Of course not! Have I ever vandalized? Also, you admit to it now? &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:38, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Vandalism includes disruptive edits. e.g., just about everything in your contributions. And, as I said, I have made a personal attack against ''[[User:Xydexx|someone else]]'', which is unrelated to this discussion. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:40, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Well in that case, I suppose you are a vandal too? &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:43, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	<entry>
		<id>//en.wikifur.com/wiki/Talk:Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica_(.es)</id>
		<title>Talk:Encyclopædia Dramatica (.es)</title>
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				<updated>2011-07-26T07:41:47Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ô: typo&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Yes, hello. Here are some changes that need to be made to the infobox.&lt;br /&gt;
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Owners: Garrett, E, Joepie91&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Founder: Ryan&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Admins: H64, Meepsheep, Zaiger, JuniusThaddeus, DocEvil, Thayo&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The site history should also mention Ryan's arrest. [[User:Ms. S|Ms. S]] 01:21, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:It would be easy to do it yourself. Of course,  Ryan's arrest had to do with LulzSec, not ED. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] ([[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Equivamp|contribs]]) 04:23, 17 July 2011.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;!-- [Template:Unsigned] --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Inaccuracies ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
ED doesn't use &amp;quot;the same liscense (sic) as WikiFur.&amp;quot; ED's content isn't licensed under CC-BY-SA 3.0. The host dropped ED because it violated [http://www.securedservers.com/aup.php their AUP]. If anything, the DMCA was just a wake-up call, since they apparently don't visit any of the websites they host unless someone calls their PR department. In addition, CloudFlare isn't a webhost. IIRC, Girlvinyl only DMCA'd her article and not the entire site. I'm not even sure if it's necessary to report every bit of downtime ED has. It's certainly important to us now, but would it mean anything years from now? I would like to suggest the use of citations in order to back any claim, but .ch doesn't receive much attention for some reason. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 00:01, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You're welcome to fix anything. If something is inaccurate, there's no need to start a discussion on it, just remove it. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:18, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Done. I also removed the section on ads. .com's ads were fake, since there weren't any advertisers who wanted to risked affiliating themselves with us. .com's ads were jokes; they were intentionally obscene and distracting. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 17:51, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Deletion/merge? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This article is only serving as vanity for ED.ch users. ED is '''dead''' and the last thing we need is another article on them. I think this page should be deleted, and  the old one restored with a short &amp;quot;mirror&amp;quot; section. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:19, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:ED is run differently and by different people. [[Special:Contributions/174.126.213.241|174.126.213.241]] 02:25, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::This page is just about some fan site that isn't going to last but a few more months. If someone were to create a WikiFur mirror, would it be WikiFur? No. That is the reason we don't need a page on ED.ch. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:29, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::&amp;gt;&amp;quot;...isn't going to last a few more months.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:::Willing to bet on that?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::&amp;gt;&amp;quot;if someone were to create a mirror of WikiFur, would it be WikiFur?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:::That just further argues that they are two different things that need two different articles. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:32, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I am certain it won't last a year. It only has about 1/6 of the user base and it's run by moronic kids who have no clue what the hell they are doing. And no, they don't need different articles. ED died and became Ohinternet, then some jackass decided to steal it. We '''do NOT need this article'''. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:41, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Actually, ED isn't dead. It's at a new domain. They've also been making deals with Girlvinyl, so the ED.com domain may be returned. And, simply because you have the ability to type ad hominem attacks does not make an article less valid. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:49, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Do you have any proof of these &amp;quot;deals&amp;quot;? I don't think so. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:53, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you would like to visit ED's Thizzlehat Junction Center, IRC, or forums, you're more than welcome to. One instamce of a deal being made is that her article be removed so that she would stop false DCMA'ing. I also reccomend talking to a sysop, who would be involved and far more in-the-know than I. Regardless, the article stays. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:58, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:I don't think I'll be sinking that low anytime soon. And who are ''you'' to decide if the article stays? I came here hoping an admin would review the content, and instead got a brat telling me to go to some stupid ED mirror rather than backing their arguements. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:03, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You seem to only be here to cause drama. And, your ad hominems [[Wikifur:NPA|need to stop]]. If you're unwilling to get information, you've no place in a discussion about information. I don't know who you are, but you're being ridiculous. Please stop your drama-mongering, ED or LJ are the proper mediums for that; it's frowned upon here. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:07, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I came here to get an article we don't need taken down. Instead, I got &amp;quot;OH NO THIS SITE IS COOL, HERE GO LOOK&amp;quot;. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:14, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::I never said the site was cool, and I only refered you to places in which to find the information you'd asked for. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:17, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::Assuming that information can be found there. If you're going to bring that into this, at least provide a source. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:20, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
I did. Yoy refused to &amp;quot;sink that low&amp;quot;, whatever that means. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:23, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You directed me to the &amp;quot;Thizzlehat Junction Center&amp;quot;, which I checked and has nothing about this at all. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:28, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Oh really? An entire section is devoted to discussion of that topic. I also provided two other sources in case you were unable to find it. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:32, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:It provides no real information, just calls for attacks. And no thank you, I don't think I'll be speaking to any of those losers. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:35, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
If you refuse to look at information given to you upon asking for it, you're beyond my help. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:38, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:You claimed that Girlvinyl would be handing over ED's domain. I see nothing of this. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:40, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	<entry>
		<id>//en.wikifur.com/wiki/Talk:Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica_(.es)</id>
		<title>Talk:Encyclopædia Dramatica (.es)</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Talk:Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica_(.es)"/>
				<updated>2011-07-26T07:40:28Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ô: /* Deletion/merge? */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Yes, hello. Here are some changes that need to be made to the infobox.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Owners: Garrett, E, Joepie91&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Founder: Ryan&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Admins: H64, Meepsheep, Zaiger, JuniusThaddeus, DocEvil, Thayo&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The site history should also mention Ryan's arrest. [[User:Ms. S|Ms. S]] 01:21, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:It would be easy to do it yourself. Of course,  Ryan's arrest had to do with LulzSec, not ED. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] ([[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Equivamp|contribs]]) 04:23, 17 July 2011.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;!-- [Template:Unsigned] --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Inaccuracies ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
ED doesn't use &amp;quot;the same liscense (sic) as WikiFur.&amp;quot; ED's content isn't licensed under CC-BY-SA 3.0. The host dropped ED because it violated [http://www.securedservers.com/aup.php their AUP]. If anything, the DMCA was just a wake-up call, since they apparently don't visit any of the websites they host unless someone calls their PR department. In addition, CloudFlare isn't a webhost. IIRC, Girlvinyl only DMCA'd her article and not the entire site. I'm not even sure if it's necessary to report every bit of downtime ED has. It's certainly important to us now, but would it mean anything years from now? I would like to suggest the use of citations in order to back any claim, but .ch doesn't receive much attention for some reason. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 00:01, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You're welcome to fix anything. If something is inaccurate, there's no need to start a discussion on it, just remove it. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:18, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Done. I also removed the section on ads. .com's ads were fake, since there weren't any advertisers who wanted to risked affiliating themselves with us. .com's ads were jokes; they were intentionally obscene and distracting. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 17:51, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Deletion/merge? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This article is only serving as vanity for ED.ch users. ED is '''dead''' and the last thing we need is another article on them. I think this page should be deleted, and  the old one restored with a short &amp;quot;mirror&amp;quot; section. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:19, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:ED is run differently and by different people. [[Special:Contributions/174.126.213.241|174.126.213.241]] 02:25, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::This page is just about some fan site that isn't going to last but a few more months. If someone were to create a WikiFur mirror, would it be WikiFur? No. That is the reason we don't need a page on ED.ch. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:29, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::&amp;gt;&amp;quot;...isn't going to last a few more months.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:::Willing to bet on that?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::&amp;gt;&amp;quot;if someone were to create a mirror of WikiFur, would it be WikiFur?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:::That just further argues that they are two different things that need two different articles. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:32, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I am certain it won't last a year. It only has about 1/6 of the user base and it's run by moronic kids who have no clue what the hell they are doing. And no, they don't need different articles. ED died and became Ohinternet, then some jackass decided to steal it. We '''do NOT need this article'''. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:41, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Actually, ED isn't dead. It's at a new domain. They've also been making deals with Girlvinyl, so the ED.com domain may be returned. And, simply because you have the ability to type ad hominem attacks does not make an article less valid. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:49, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Do you have any proof of these &amp;quot;deals&amp;quot;? I don't think so. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:53, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you would like to visit ED's Thizzlehat Junction Center, IRC, or forums, you're more than welcome to. One instamce of a deal being made is that her article be removed so that she would stop false DCMA'ing. I also reccomend talking to a sysop, who would be involved and far more in-the-know than I. Regardless, the article stays. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:58, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:I don't think I'll be sinking that low anytime soon. And who are ''you'' to decide if the article stays? I came here hoping an admin would review the content, and instead got a brat telling me to go to some stupid ED mirror rather than backing their arguements. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:03, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You seem to only be here to cause drama. And, your ad hominems [[Wikifur:NPA|need to stop]]. If you're unwilling to get information, you've no place in a discussion about information. I don't know who you are, but you're being ridiculous. Please stop your drama-mongering, ED or LJ are the proper mediums for that; it's frowned upon here. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:07, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:I came here to get an article we don't need taken down. Instead, I got &amp;quot;OH NO THIS SITE IS COOL, HERE GO LOOK&amp;quot;. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:14, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::I never said the site was cool, and I only refered you to places in which to find the information you'd asked for. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:17, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::Assuming that information can be found there. If you're going to bring that into this, at least provide a source. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:20, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
I did. Yoy refused to &amp;quot;sink that low&amp;quot;, whatever that means. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:23, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:You directed me to the &amp;quot;Thizzlehat Junction Center&amp;quot;, which I checked and has nothing about this at all. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:28, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Oh really? An entire section is devoted to discussion of that topic. I also provided two other sources in case you were unable to find it. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:32, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:It provides no real information, just calls for attacks. And no thank you, I don't think I'll be speaking to any of those losers. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:35, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
If you refuse to look at information given to you upon asking for it, you're beyond my help. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:38, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:You claimed that Girlvinyl would be handing over ED's domain. I see nothing if this. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:40, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ô</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>//en.wikifur.com/wiki/User_talk:%C3%94</id>
		<title>User talk:Ô</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/User_talk:%C3%94"/>
				<updated>2011-07-26T07:38:13Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ô: /* No personal attacks */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{welcome}} [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:43, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Re: Hi ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I wasn't &amp;quot;edit waring[sic]&amp;quot;. I was restoring removed information to an article. Also note the information it was replaced with has been discussed in further detail in another section. Also, the administrator that protected the page was just as much correcting ''you'' as anyone. How about you get off my back and edit more before you start correcting regular contributors, hm? [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:32, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Honestly I feel you are in no position to determine who &amp;quot;belongs here&amp;quot;. ED sysops edit here--I'm just a barely tolerated grammar Nazi on that site, and I was here before I ever went there. Would you like to remain on my back some more, or are we going to go on our merry ways? [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:41, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Actually, no. Even [[User:Michaeldsuarez|an ED sysop]] has made valued contributions to this wiki. But, if you're calling out my integrity, fine--look through my contributions and tell me ''once'' where I have attacked this site. I don't know where you get your infornation from, but it's a load of crap. I guess I should expect that from someone from fchan. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:53, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== No personal attacks ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
That includes vandals. Let's not tell people to &amp;quot;fuck off&amp;quot;. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:25, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Isn't it ironic that you are telling me this, when you are guilty of it? &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:33, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I was guilty of it in the past, yes, but never toward you. Or are you admitting you're a vandal? [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:34, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Of course not! Have I ever vandalized? Also, you admit to it now? &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:38, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ô</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>//en.wikifur.com/wiki/Talk:Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica_(.es)</id>
		<title>Talk:Encyclopædia Dramatica (.es)</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Talk:Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica_(.es)"/>
				<updated>2011-07-26T07:35:29Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ô: /* Deletion/merge? */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Yes, hello. Here are some changes that need to be made to the infobox.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Owners: Garrett, E, Joepie91&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Founder: Ryan&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Admins: H64, Meepsheep, Zaiger, JuniusThaddeus, DocEvil, Thayo&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The site history should also mention Ryan's arrest. [[User:Ms. S|Ms. S]] 01:21, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:It would be easy to do it yourself. Of course,  Ryan's arrest had to do with LulzSec, not ED. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] ([[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Equivamp|contribs]]) 04:23, 17 July 2011.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;!-- [Template:Unsigned] --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Inaccuracies ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
ED doesn't use &amp;quot;the same liscense (sic) as WikiFur.&amp;quot; ED's content isn't licensed under CC-BY-SA 3.0. The host dropped ED because it violated [http://www.securedservers.com/aup.php their AUP]. If anything, the DMCA was just a wake-up call, since they apparently don't visit any of the websites they host unless someone calls their PR department. In addition, CloudFlare isn't a webhost. IIRC, Girlvinyl only DMCA'd her article and not the entire site. I'm not even sure if it's necessary to report every bit of downtime ED has. It's certainly important to us now, but would it mean anything years from now? I would like to suggest the use of citations in order to back any claim, but .ch doesn't receive much attention for some reason. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 00:01, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You're welcome to fix anything. If something is inaccurate, there's no need to start a discussion on it, just remove it. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:18, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Done. I also removed the section on ads. .com's ads were fake, since there weren't any advertisers who wanted to risked affiliating themselves with us. .com's ads were jokes; they were intentionally obscene and distracting. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 17:51, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Deletion/merge? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This article is only serving as vanity for ED.ch users. ED is '''dead''' and the last thing we need is another article on them. I think this page should be deleted, and  the old one restored with a short &amp;quot;mirror&amp;quot; section. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:19, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:ED is run differently and by different people. [[Special:Contributions/174.126.213.241|174.126.213.241]] 02:25, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::This page is just about some fan site that isn't going to last but a few more months. If someone were to create a WikiFur mirror, would it be WikiFur? No. That is the reason we don't need a page on ED.ch. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:29, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::&amp;gt;&amp;quot;...isn't going to last a few more months.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:::Willing to bet on that?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::&amp;gt;&amp;quot;if someone were to create a mirror of WikiFur, would it be WikiFur?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:::That just further argues that they are two different things that need two different articles. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:32, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I am certain it won't last a year. It only has about 1/6 of the user base and it's run by moronic kids who have no clue what the hell they are doing. And no, they don't need different articles. ED died and became Ohinternet, then some jackass decided to steal it. We '''do NOT need this article'''. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:41, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Actually, ED isn't dead. It's at a new domain. They've also been making deals with Girlvinyl, so the ED.com domain may be returned. And, simply because you have the ability to type ad hominem attacks does not make an article less valid. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:49, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Do you have any proof of these &amp;quot;deals&amp;quot;? I don't think so. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:53, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you would like to visit ED's Thizzlehat Junction Center, IRC, or forums, you're more than welcome to. One instamce of a deal being made is that her article be removed so that she would stop false DCMA'ing. I also reccomend talking to a sysop, who would be involved and far more in-the-know than I. Regardless, the article stays. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:58, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:I don't think I'll be sinking that low anytime soon. And who are ''you'' to decide if the article stays? I came here hoping an admin would review the content, and instead got a brat telling me to go to some stupid ED mirror rather than backing their arguements. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:03, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You seem to only be here to cause drama. And, your ad hominems [[Wikifur:NPA|need to stop]]. If you're unwilling to get information, you've no place in a discussion about information. I don't know who you are, but you're being ridiculous. Please stop your drama-mongering, ED or LJ are the proper mediums for that; it's frowned upon here. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:07, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:I came here to get an article we don't need taken down. Instead, I got &amp;quot;OH NO THIS SITE IS COOL, HERE GO LOOK&amp;quot;. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:14, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::I never said the site was cool, and I only refered you to places in which to find the information you'd asked for. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:17, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::Assuming that information can be found there. If you're going to bring that into this, at least provide a source. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:20, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
I did. Yoy refused to &amp;quot;sink that low&amp;quot;, whatever that means. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:23, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:You directed me to the &amp;quot;Thizzlehat Junction Center&amp;quot;, which I checked and has nothing about this at all. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:28, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Oh really? An entire section is devoted to discussion of that topic. I also provided two other sources in case you were unable to find it. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:32, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:It provides no real information, just calls for attacks. And no thank you, I don't think I'll be speaking to any of those losers. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:35, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ô</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>//en.wikifur.com/wiki/User_talk:%C3%94</id>
		<title>User talk:Ô</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/User_talk:%C3%94"/>
				<updated>2011-07-26T07:33:00Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ô: /* No personal attacks */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{welcome}} [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:43, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Re: Hi ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I wasn't &amp;quot;edit waring[sic]&amp;quot;. I was restoring removed information to an article. Also note the information it was replaced with has been discussed in further detail in another section. Also, the administrator that protected the page was just as much correcting ''you'' as anyone. How about you get off my back and edit more before you start correcting regular contributors, hm? [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:32, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Honestly I feel you are in no position to determine who &amp;quot;belongs here&amp;quot;. ED sysops edit here--I'm just a barely tolerated grammar Nazi on that site, and I was here before I ever went there. Would you like to remain on my back some more, or are we going to go on our merry ways? [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:41, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Actually, no. Even [[User:Michaeldsuarez|an ED sysop]] has made valued contributions to this wiki. But, if you're calling out my integrity, fine--look through my contributions and tell me ''once'' where I have attacked this site. I don't know where you get your infornation from, but it's a load of crap. I guess I should expect that from someone from fchan. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:53, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== No personal attacks ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
That includes vandals. Let's not tell people to &amp;quot;fuck off&amp;quot;. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:25, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Isn't it ironic that you are telling me this, when you are guilty of it? &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:33, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ô</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>//en.wikifur.com/wiki/Talk:Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica_(.es)</id>
		<title>Talk:Encyclopædia Dramatica (.es)</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Talk:Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica_(.es)"/>
				<updated>2011-07-26T07:28:28Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ô: /* Deletion/merge? */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Yes, hello. Here are some changes that need to be made to the infobox.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Owners: Garrett, E, Joepie91&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Founder: Ryan&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Admins: H64, Meepsheep, Zaiger, JuniusThaddeus, DocEvil, Thayo&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The site history should also mention Ryan's arrest. [[User:Ms. S|Ms. S]] 01:21, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:It would be easy to do it yourself. Of course,  Ryan's arrest had to do with LulzSec, not ED. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] ([[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Equivamp|contribs]]) 04:23, 17 July 2011.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;!-- [Template:Unsigned] --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Inaccuracies ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
ED doesn't use &amp;quot;the same liscense (sic) as WikiFur.&amp;quot; ED's content isn't licensed under CC-BY-SA 3.0. The host dropped ED because it violated [http://www.securedservers.com/aup.php their AUP]. If anything, the DMCA was just a wake-up call, since they apparently don't visit any of the websites they host unless someone calls their PR department. In addition, CloudFlare isn't a webhost. IIRC, Girlvinyl only DMCA'd her article and not the entire site. I'm not even sure if it's necessary to report every bit of downtime ED has. It's certainly important to us now, but would it mean anything years from now? I would like to suggest the use of citations in order to back any claim, but .ch doesn't receive much attention for some reason. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 00:01, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You're welcome to fix anything. If something is inaccurate, there's no need to start a discussion on it, just remove it. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:18, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Done. I also removed the section on ads. .com's ads were fake, since there weren't any advertisers who wanted to risked affiliating themselves with us. .com's ads were jokes; they were intentionally obscene and distracting. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 17:51, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Deletion/merge? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This article is only serving as vanity for ED.ch users. ED is '''dead''' and the last thing we need is another article on them. I think this page should be deleted, and  the old one restored with a short &amp;quot;mirror&amp;quot; section. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:19, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:ED is run differently and by different people. [[Special:Contributions/174.126.213.241|174.126.213.241]] 02:25, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::This page is just about some fan site that isn't going to last but a few more months. If someone were to create a WikiFur mirror, would it be WikiFur? No. That is the reason we don't need a page on ED.ch. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:29, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::&amp;gt;&amp;quot;...isn't going to last a few more months.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:::Willing to bet on that?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::&amp;gt;&amp;quot;if someone were to create a mirror of WikiFur, would it be WikiFur?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:::That just further argues that they are two different things that need two different articles. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:32, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I am certain it won't last a year. It only has about 1/6 of the user base and it's run by moronic kids who have no clue what the hell they are doing. And no, they don't need different articles. ED died and became Ohinternet, then some jackass decided to steal it. We '''do NOT need this article'''. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:41, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Actually, ED isn't dead. It's at a new domain. They've also been making deals with Girlvinyl, so the ED.com domain may be returned. And, simply because you have the ability to type ad hominem attacks does not make an article less valid. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:49, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Do you have any proof of these &amp;quot;deals&amp;quot;? I don't think so. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:53, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you would like to visit ED's Thizzlehat Junction Center, IRC, or forums, you're more than welcome to. One instamce of a deal being made is that her article be removed so that she would stop false DCMA'ing. I also reccomend talking to a sysop, who would be involved and far more in-the-know than I. Regardless, the article stays. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:58, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:I don't think I'll be sinking that low anytime soon. And who are ''you'' to decide if the article stays? I came here hoping an admin would review the content, and instead got a brat telling me to go to some stupid ED mirror rather than backing their arguements. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:03, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You seem to only be here to cause drama. And, your ad hominems [[Wikifur:NPA|need to stop]]. If you're unwilling to get information, you've no place in a discussion about information. I don't know who you are, but you're being ridiculous. Please stop your drama-mongering, ED or LJ are the proper mediums for that; it's frowned upon here. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:07, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:I came here to get an article we don't need taken down. Instead, I got &amp;quot;OH NO THIS SITE IS COOL, HERE GO LOOK&amp;quot;. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:14, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::I never said the site was cool, and I only refered you to places in which to find the information you'd asked for. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:17, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::Assuming that information can be found there. If you're going to bring that into this, at least provide a source. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:20, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
I did. Yoy refused to &amp;quot;sink that low&amp;quot;, whatever that means. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:23, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:You directed me to the &amp;quot;Thizzlehat Junction Center&amp;quot;, which I checked and has nothing about this at all. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:28, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ô</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>//en.wikifur.com/wiki/User_talk:Lancea_Sanctum</id>
		<title>User talk:Lancea Sanctum</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/User_talk:Lancea_Sanctum"/>
				<updated>2011-07-26T07:24:00Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ô: /* Hi */ new section&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{welcome-vanity}} [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:15, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
{{dv}}&lt;br /&gt;
Also, you got the &amp;quot;pretty cool guy&amp;quot; meme wrong. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:19, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
{{dv2}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Hi ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
How about you fuck off, you vandal. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:24, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ô</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>//en.wikifur.com/wiki/Talk:Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica_(.es)</id>
		<title>Talk:Encyclopædia Dramatica (.es)</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Talk:Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica_(.es)"/>
				<updated>2011-07-26T07:20:43Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ô: /* Deletion/merge? */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Yes, hello. Here are some changes that need to be made to the infobox.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Owners: Garrett, E, Joepie91&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Founder: Ryan&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Admins: H64, Meepsheep, Zaiger, JuniusThaddeus, DocEvil, Thayo&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The site history should also mention Ryan's arrest. [[User:Ms. S|Ms. S]] 01:21, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:It would be easy to do it yourself. Of course,  Ryan's arrest had to do with LulzSec, not ED. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] ([[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Equivamp|contribs]]) 04:23, 17 July 2011.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;!-- [Template:Unsigned] --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Inaccuracies ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
ED doesn't use &amp;quot;the same liscense (sic) as WikiFur.&amp;quot; ED's content isn't licensed under CC-BY-SA 3.0. The host dropped ED because it violated [http://www.securedservers.com/aup.php their AUP]. If anything, the DMCA was just a wake-up call, since they apparently don't visit any of the websites they host unless someone calls their PR department. In addition, CloudFlare isn't a webhost. IIRC, Girlvinyl only DMCA'd her article and not the entire site. I'm not even sure if it's necessary to report every bit of downtime ED has. It's certainly important to us now, but would it mean anything years from now? I would like to suggest the use of citations in order to back any claim, but .ch doesn't receive much attention for some reason. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 00:01, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You're welcome to fix anything. If something is inaccurate, there's no need to start a discussion on it, just remove it. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:18, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Done. I also removed the section on ads. .com's ads were fake, since there weren't any advertisers who wanted to risked affiliating themselves with us. .com's ads were jokes; they were intentionally obscene and distracting. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 17:51, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Deletion/merge? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This article is only serving as vanity for ED.ch users. ED is '''dead''' and the last thing we need is another article on them. I think this page should be deleted, and  the old one restored with a short &amp;quot;mirror&amp;quot; section. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:19, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:ED is run differently and by different people. [[Special:Contributions/174.126.213.241|174.126.213.241]] 02:25, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::This page is just about some fan site that isn't going to last but a few more months. If someone were to create a WikiFur mirror, would it be WikiFur? No. That is the reason we don't need a page on ED.ch. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:29, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::&amp;gt;&amp;quot;...isn't going to last a few more months.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:::Willing to bet on that?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::&amp;gt;&amp;quot;if someone were to create a mirror of WikiFur, would it be WikiFur?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:::That just further argues that they are two different things that need two different articles. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:32, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I am certain it won't last a year. It only has about 1/6 of the user base and it's run by moronic kids who have no clue what the hell they are doing. And no, they don't need different articles. ED died and became Ohinternet, then some jackass decided to steal it. We '''do NOT need this article'''. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:41, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Actually, ED isn't dead. It's at a new domain. They've also been making deals with Girlvinyl, so the ED.com domain may be returned. And, simply because you have the ability to type ad hominem attacks does not make an article less valid. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:49, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Do you have any proof of these &amp;quot;deals&amp;quot;? I don't think so. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:53, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you would like to visit ED's Thizzlehat Junction Center, IRC, or forums, you're more than welcome to. One instamce of a deal being made is that her article be removed so that she would stop false DCMA'ing. I also reccomend talking to a sysop, who would be involved and far more in-the-know than I. Regardless, the article stays. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:58, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:I don't think I'll be sinking that low anytime soon. And who are ''you'' to decide if the article stays? I came here hoping an admin would review the content, and instead got a brat telling me to go to some stupid ED mirror rather than backing their arguements. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:03, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You seem to only be here to cause drama. And, your ad hominems [[Wikifur:NPA|need to stop]]. If you're unwilling to get information, you've no place in a discussion about information. I don't know who you are, but you're being ridiculous. Please stop your drama-mongering, ED or LJ are the proper mediums for that; it's frowned upon here. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:07, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:I came here to get an article we don't need taken down. Instead, I got &amp;quot;OH NO THIS SITE IS COOL, HERE GO LOOK&amp;quot;. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:14, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::I never said the site was cool, and I only refered you to places in which to find the information you'd asked for. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:17, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::Assuming that information can be found there. If you're going to bring that into this, at least provide a source. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:20, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ô</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>//en.wikifur.com/wiki/Sloth_(Jack)</id>
		<title>Sloth (Jack)</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Sloth_(Jack)"/>
				<updated>2011-07-26T07:18:11Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ô: Vandalism&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;'''Sloth''', whose actual name is unknown is a fairly minor character in the webcomic ''[[Jack]]'' by [[David Hopkins]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As of yet, no history pertaining as to who or what Sloth was in life or what his actions (or perhaps more appropriately, inactions) may have been. All that is known is that when he died he came to embody the Sin of Sloth. Sloth has one of the more interesting punishments in Hell; he is the ground of Hell itself, and though this means Sloth never has to actually do anything, he can never rest; as Sloth can hear and feel every footstep on top of him.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Due to the fact he is the ground of Hell, Sloth knows almost everything occurring in Hell. Due to this omnipresence, Sloth oftentimes has information forcibly extracted from him by others. Though Sloth is everywhere he can only be communicated with through a rather dead-looking tree located in the middle of nowhere.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When Sloth was approached by fellow Sin, [[Kane]] (Envy) who was looking to form an alliance between the damned, he apparently denied having part in Kane's plan due to laziness.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{rating-ma-button4}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Jack characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Demon characters]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ô</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>//en.wikifur.com/wiki/Talk:Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica_(.es)</id>
		<title>Talk:Encyclopædia Dramatica (.es)</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Talk:Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica_(.es)"/>
				<updated>2011-07-26T07:14:18Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ô: /* Deletion/merge? */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Yes, hello. Here are some changes that need to be made to the infobox.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Owners: Garrett, E, Joepie91&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Founder: Ryan&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Admins: H64, Meepsheep, Zaiger, JuniusThaddeus, DocEvil, Thayo&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The site history should also mention Ryan's arrest. [[User:Ms. S|Ms. S]] 01:21, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:It would be easy to do it yourself. Of course,  Ryan's arrest had to do with LulzSec, not ED. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] ([[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Equivamp|contribs]]) 04:23, 17 July 2011.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;!-- [Template:Unsigned] --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Inaccuracies ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
ED doesn't use &amp;quot;the same liscense (sic) as WikiFur.&amp;quot; ED's content isn't licensed under CC-BY-SA 3.0. The host dropped ED because it violated [http://www.securedservers.com/aup.php their AUP]. If anything, the DMCA was just a wake-up call, since they apparently don't visit any of the websites they host unless someone calls their PR department. In addition, CloudFlare isn't a webhost. IIRC, Girlvinyl only DMCA'd her article and not the entire site. I'm not even sure if it's necessary to report every bit of downtime ED has. It's certainly important to us now, but would it mean anything years from now? I would like to suggest the use of citations in order to back any claim, but .ch doesn't receive much attention for some reason. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 00:01, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You're welcome to fix anything. If something is inaccurate, there's no need to start a discussion on it, just remove it. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:18, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Done. I also removed the section on ads. .com's ads were fake, since there weren't any advertisers who wanted to risked affiliating themselves with us. .com's ads were jokes; they were intentionally obscene and distracting. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 17:51, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Deletion/merge? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This article is only serving as vanity for ED.ch users. ED is '''dead''' and the last thing we need is another article on them. I think this page should be deleted, and  the old one restored with a short &amp;quot;mirror&amp;quot; section. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:19, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:ED is run differently and by different people. [[Special:Contributions/174.126.213.241|174.126.213.241]] 02:25, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::This page is just about some fan site that isn't going to last but a few more months. If someone were to create a WikiFur mirror, would it be WikiFur? No. That is the reason we don't need a page on ED.ch. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:29, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::&amp;gt;&amp;quot;...isn't going to last a few more months.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:::Willing to bet on that?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::&amp;gt;&amp;quot;if someone were to create a mirror of WikiFur, would it be WikiFur?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:::That just further argues that they are two different things that need two different articles. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:32, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I am certain it won't last a year. It only has about 1/6 of the user base and it's run by moronic kids who have no clue what the hell they are doing. And no, they don't need different articles. ED died and became Ohinternet, then some jackass decided to steal it. We '''do NOT need this article'''. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:41, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Actually, ED isn't dead. It's at a new domain. They've also been making deals with Girlvinyl, so the ED.com domain may be returned. And, simply because you have the ability to type ad hominem attacks does not make an article less valid. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:49, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Do you have any proof of these &amp;quot;deals&amp;quot;? I don't think so. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:53, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you would like to visit ED's Thizzlehat Junction Center, IRC, or forums, you're more than welcome to. One instamce of a deal being made is that her article be removed so that she would stop false DCMA'ing. I also reccomend talking to a sysop, who would be involved and far more in-the-know than I. Regardless, the article stays. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:58, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:I don't think I'll be sinking that low anytime soon. And who are ''you'' to decide if the article stays? I came here hoping an admin would review the content, and instead got a brat telling me to go to some stupid ED mirror rather than backing their arguements. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:03, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You seem to only be here to cause drama. And, your ad hominems [[Wikifur:NPA|need to stop]]. If you're unwilling to get information, you've no place in a discussion about information. I don't know who you are, but you're being ridiculous. Please stop your drama-mongering, ED or LJ are the proper mediums for that; it's frowned upon here. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:07, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:I came here to get an article we don't need taken down. Instead, I got &amp;quot;OH NO THIS SITE IS COOL, HERE GO LOOK&amp;quot;. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:14, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ô</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>//en.wikifur.com/wiki/Talk:Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica_(.es)</id>
		<title>Talk:Encyclopædia Dramatica (.es)</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Talk:Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica_(.es)"/>
				<updated>2011-07-26T07:03:34Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ô: /* Deletion/merge? */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Yes, hello. Here are some changes that need to be made to the infobox.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Owners: Garrett, E, Joepie91&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Founder: Ryan&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Admins: H64, Meepsheep, Zaiger, JuniusThaddeus, DocEvil, Thayo&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The site history should also mention Ryan's arrest. [[User:Ms. S|Ms. S]] 01:21, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:It would be easy to do it yourself. Of course,  Ryan's arrest had to do with LulzSec, not ED. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] ([[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Equivamp|contribs]]) 04:23, 17 July 2011.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;!-- [Template:Unsigned] --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Inaccuracies ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
ED doesn't use &amp;quot;the same liscense (sic) as WikiFur.&amp;quot; ED's content isn't licensed under CC-BY-SA 3.0. The host dropped ED because it violated [http://www.securedservers.com/aup.php their AUP]. If anything, the DMCA was just a wake-up call, since they apparently don't visit any of the websites they host unless someone calls their PR department. In addition, CloudFlare isn't a webhost. IIRC, Girlvinyl only DMCA'd her article and not the entire site. I'm not even sure if it's necessary to report every bit of downtime ED has. It's certainly important to us now, but would it mean anything years from now? I would like to suggest the use of citations in order to back any claim, but .ch doesn't receive much attention for some reason. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 00:01, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You're welcome to fix anything. If something is inaccurate, there's no need to start a discussion on it, just remove it. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:18, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Done. I also removed the section on ads. .com's ads were fake, since there weren't any advertisers who wanted to risked affiliating themselves with us. .com's ads were jokes; they were intentionally obscene and distracting. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 17:51, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Deletion/merge? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This article is only serving as vanity for ED.ch users. ED is '''dead''' and the last thing we need is another article on them. I think this page should be deleted, and  the old one restored with a short &amp;quot;mirror&amp;quot; section. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:19, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:ED is run differently and by different people. [[Special:Contributions/174.126.213.241|174.126.213.241]] 02:25, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::This page is just about some fan site that isn't going to last but a few more months. If someone were to create a WikiFur mirror, would it be WikiFur? No. That is the reason we don't need a page on ED.ch. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:29, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::&amp;gt;&amp;quot;...isn't going to last a few more months.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:::Willing to bet on that?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::&amp;gt;&amp;quot;if someone were to create a mirror of WikiFur, would it be WikiFur?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:::That just further argues that they are two different things that need two different articles. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:32, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I am certain it won't last a year. It only has about 1/6 of the user base and it's run by moronic kids who have no clue what the hell they are doing. And no, they don't need different articles. ED died and became Ohinternet, then some jackass decided to steal it. We '''do NOT need this article'''. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:41, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Actually, ED isn't dead. It's at a new domain. They've also been making deals with Girlvinyl, so the ED.com domain may be returned. And, simply because you have the ability to type ad hominem attacks does not make an article less valid. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:49, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Do you have any proof of these &amp;quot;deals&amp;quot;? I don't think so. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:53, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you would like to visit ED's Thizzlehat Junction Center, IRC, or forums, you're more than welcome to. One instamce of a deal being made is that her article be removed so that she would stop false DCMA'ing. I also reccomend talking to a sysop, who would be involved and far more in-the-know than I. Regardless, the article stays. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:58, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:I don't think I'll be sinking that low anytime soon. And who are ''you'' to decide if the article stays? I came here hoping an admin would review the content, and instead got a brat telling me to go to some stupid ED mirror rather than backing their arguements. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 03:03, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ô</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>//en.wikifur.com/wiki/Talk:Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica_(.es)</id>
		<title>Talk:Encyclopædia Dramatica (.es)</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Talk:Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica_(.es)"/>
				<updated>2011-07-26T06:53:11Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ô: /* Deletion/merge? */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Yes, hello. Here are some changes that need to be made to the infobox.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Owners: Garrett, E, Joepie91&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Founder: Ryan&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Admins: H64, Meepsheep, Zaiger, JuniusThaddeus, DocEvil, Thayo&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The site history should also mention Ryan's arrest. [[User:Ms. S|Ms. S]] 01:21, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:It would be easy to do it yourself. Of course,  Ryan's arrest had to do with LulzSec, not ED. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] ([[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Equivamp|contribs]]) 04:23, 17 July 2011.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;!-- [Template:Unsigned] --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Inaccuracies ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
ED doesn't use &amp;quot;the same liscense (sic) as WikiFur.&amp;quot; ED's content isn't licensed under CC-BY-SA 3.0. The host dropped ED because it violated [http://www.securedservers.com/aup.php their AUP]. If anything, the DMCA was just a wake-up call, since they apparently don't visit any of the websites they host unless someone calls their PR department. In addition, CloudFlare isn't a webhost. IIRC, Girlvinyl only DMCA'd her article and not the entire site. I'm not even sure if it's necessary to report every bit of downtime ED has. It's certainly important to us now, but would it mean anything years from now? I would like to suggest the use of citations in order to back any claim, but .ch doesn't receive much attention for some reason. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 00:01, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You're welcome to fix anything. If something is inaccurate, there's no need to start a discussion on it, just remove it. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:18, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Done. I also removed the section on ads. .com's ads were fake, since there weren't any advertisers who wanted to risked affiliating themselves with us. .com's ads were jokes; they were intentionally obscene and distracting. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 17:51, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Deletion/merge? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This article is only serving as vanity for ED.ch users. ED is '''dead''' and the last thing we need is another article on them. I think this page should be deleted, and  the old one restored with a short &amp;quot;mirror&amp;quot; section. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:19, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:ED is run differently and by different people. [[Special:Contributions/174.126.213.241|174.126.213.241]] 02:25, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::This page is just about some fan site that isn't going to last but a few more months. If someone were to create a WikiFur mirror, would it be WikiFur? No. That is the reason we don't need a page on ED.ch. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:29, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::&amp;gt;&amp;quot;...isn't going to last a few more months.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:::Willing to bet on that?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::&amp;gt;&amp;quot;if someone were to create a mirror of WikiFur, would it be WikiFur?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:::That just further argues that they are two different things that need two different articles. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:32, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I am certain it won't last a year. It only has about 1/6 of the user base and it's run by moronic kids who have no clue what the hell they are doing. And no, they don't need different articles. ED died and became Ohinternet, then some jackass decided to steal it. We '''do NOT need this article'''. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:41, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Actually, ED isn't dead. It's at a new domain. They've also been making deals with Girlvinyl, so the ED.com domain may be returned. And, simply because you have the ability to type ad hominem attacks does not make an article less valid. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:49, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Do you have any proof of these &amp;quot;deals&amp;quot;? I don't think so. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:53, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ô</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>//en.wikifur.com/wiki/Talk:Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica_(.es)</id>
		<title>Talk:Encyclopædia Dramatica (.es)</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Talk:Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica_(.es)"/>
				<updated>2011-07-26T06:41:13Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ô: /* Deletion/merge? */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Yes, hello. Here are some changes that need to be made to the infobox.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Owners: Garrett, E, Joepie91&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Founder: Ryan&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Admins: H64, Meepsheep, Zaiger, JuniusThaddeus, DocEvil, Thayo&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The site history should also mention Ryan's arrest. [[User:Ms. S|Ms. S]] 01:21, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:It would be easy to do it yourself. Of course,  Ryan's arrest had to do with LulzSec, not ED. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] ([[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Equivamp|contribs]]) 04:23, 17 July 2011.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;!-- [Template:Unsigned] --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Inaccuracies ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
ED doesn't use &amp;quot;the same liscense (sic) as WikiFur.&amp;quot; ED's content isn't licensed under CC-BY-SA 3.0. The host dropped ED because it violated [http://www.securedservers.com/aup.php their AUP]. If anything, the DMCA was just a wake-up call, since they apparently don't visit any of the websites they host unless someone calls their PR department. In addition, CloudFlare isn't a webhost. IIRC, Girlvinyl only DMCA'd her article and not the entire site. I'm not even sure if it's necessary to report every bit of downtime ED has. It's certainly important to us now, but would it mean anything years from now? I would like to suggest the use of citations in order to back any claim, but .ch doesn't receive much attention for some reason. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 00:01, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You're welcome to fix anything. If something is inaccurate, there's no need to start a discussion on it, just remove it. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:18, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Done. I also removed the section on ads. .com's ads were fake, since there weren't any advertisers who wanted to risked affiliating themselves with us. .com's ads were jokes; they were intentionally obscene and distracting. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 17:51, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Deletion/merge? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This article is only serving as vanity for ED.ch users. ED is '''dead''' and the last thing we need is another article on them. I think this page should be deleted, and  the old one restored with a short &amp;quot;mirror&amp;quot; section. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:19, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:ED is run differently and by different people. [[Special:Contributions/174.126.213.241|174.126.213.241]] 02:25, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::This page is just about some fan site that isn't going to last but a few more months. If someone were to create a WikiFur mirror, would it be WikiFur? No. That is the reason we don't need a page on ED.ch. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:29, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::&amp;gt;&amp;quot;...isn't going to last a few more months.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:::Willing to bet on that?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::&amp;gt;&amp;quot;if someone were to create a mirror of WikiFur, would it be WikiFur?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:::That just further argues that they are two different things that need two different articles. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:32, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I am certain it won't last a year. It only has about 1/6 of the user base and it's run by moronic kids who have no clue what the hell they are doing. And no, they don't need different articles. ED died and became Ohinternet, then some jackass decided to steal it. We '''do NOT need this article'''. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:41, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ô</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>//en.wikifur.com/wiki/Talk:Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica_(.es)</id>
		<title>Talk:Encyclopædia Dramatica (.es)</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Talk:Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica_(.es)"/>
				<updated>2011-07-26T06:29:45Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ô: /* Deletion/merge? */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Yes, hello. Here are some changes that need to be made to the infobox.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Owners: Garrett, E, Joepie91&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Founder: Ryan&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Admins: H64, Meepsheep, Zaiger, JuniusThaddeus, DocEvil, Thayo&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The site history should also mention Ryan's arrest. [[User:Ms. S|Ms. S]] 01:21, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:It would be easy to do it yourself. Of course,  Ryan's arrest had to do with LulzSec, not ED. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] ([[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Equivamp|contribs]]) 04:23, 17 July 2011.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;!-- [Template:Unsigned] --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Inaccuracies ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
ED doesn't use &amp;quot;the same liscense (sic) as WikiFur.&amp;quot; ED's content isn't licensed under CC-BY-SA 3.0. The host dropped ED because it violated [http://www.securedservers.com/aup.php their AUP]. If anything, the DMCA was just a wake-up call, since they apparently don't visit any of the websites they host unless someone calls their PR department. In addition, CloudFlare isn't a webhost. IIRC, Girlvinyl only DMCA'd her article and not the entire site. I'm not even sure if it's necessary to report every bit of downtime ED has. It's certainly important to us now, but would it mean anything years from now? I would like to suggest the use of citations in order to back any claim, but .ch doesn't receive much attention for some reason. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 00:01, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You're welcome to fix anything. If something is inaccurate, there's no need to start a discussion on it, just remove it. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:18, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Done. I also removed the section on ads. .com's ads were fake, since there weren't any advertisers who wanted to risked affiliating themselves with us. .com's ads were jokes; they were intentionally obscene and distracting. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 17:51, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Deletion/merge? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This article is only serving as vanity for ED.ch users. ED is '''dead''' and the last thing we need is another article on them. I think this page should be deleted, and  the old one restored with a short &amp;quot;mirror&amp;quot; section. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:19, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:ED is run differently and by different people. [[Special:Contributions/174.126.213.241|174.126.213.241]] 02:25, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::This page is just about some fan site that isn't going to last but a few more months. If someone were to create a WikiFur mirror, would it be WikiFur? No. That is the reason we don't need a page on ED.ch. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:29, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ô</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>//en.wikifur.com/wiki/Talk:Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica_(.es)</id>
		<title>Talk:Encyclopædia Dramatica (.es)</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Talk:Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica_(.es)"/>
				<updated>2011-07-26T06:19:34Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ô: /* Deletion/merge? */ new section&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Yes, hello. Here are some changes that need to be made to the infobox.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Owners: Garrett, E, Joepie91&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Founder: Ryan&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Admins: H64, Meepsheep, Zaiger, JuniusThaddeus, DocEvil, Thayo&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The site history should also mention Ryan's arrest. [[User:Ms. S|Ms. S]] 01:21, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:It would be easy to do it yourself. Of course,  Ryan's arrest had to do with LulzSec, not ED. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] ([[User talk:Equivamp|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Equivamp|contribs]]) 04:23, 17 July 2011.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;!-- [Template:Unsigned] --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Inaccuracies ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
ED doesn't use &amp;quot;the same liscense (sic) as WikiFur.&amp;quot; ED's content isn't licensed under CC-BY-SA 3.0. The host dropped ED because it violated [http://www.securedservers.com/aup.php their AUP]. If anything, the DMCA was just a wake-up call, since they apparently don't visit any of the websites they host unless someone calls their PR department. In addition, CloudFlare isn't a webhost. IIRC, Girlvinyl only DMCA'd her article and not the entire site. I'm not even sure if it's necessary to report every bit of downtime ED has. It's certainly important to us now, but would it mean anything years from now? I would like to suggest the use of citations in order to back any claim, but .ch doesn't receive much attention for some reason. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 00:01, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You're welcome to fix anything. If something is inaccurate, there's no need to start a discussion on it, just remove it. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:18, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Done. I also removed the section on ads. .com's ads were fake, since there weren't any advertisers who wanted to risked affiliating themselves with us. .com's ads were jokes; they were intentionally obscene and distracting. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 17:51, 22 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Deletion/merge? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This article is only serving as vanity for ED.ch users. ED is '''dead''' and the last thing we need is another article on them. I think this page should be deleted, and  the old one restored with a short &amp;quot;mirror&amp;quot; section. &amp;amp;lt;[[User:Ô|o]]&amp;amp;gt; 02:19, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ô</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>//en.wikifur.com/wiki/Babysitting_Cream</id>
		<title>Babysitting Cream</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Babysitting_Cream"/>
				<updated>2011-07-25T05:20:37Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ô: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{Unreferenced}} &lt;br /&gt;
'''Babysitting Cream''' is a flash game by [[Aval0nX]] . You are playing as [[Sonic the Hedgehog]]. Your across-the-street neighbor, Vanilla Rabbit, asks you to come over.  She has a huge favor to ask you. She needs to go away for a week and can't take Cream with her. Amy is busy this week. Would you babysit Cream? She gives you the keys to the house, and money for expenses. She promises both of you &amp;quot;BIG&amp;quot; rewards when she comes back. As of right now there is a newer version called V093. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Creamintro.png|right|thumb=Creamintro-180px.png|Opening screen of the game]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Creamstart.png|right|thumb=Creamstart-180px.png|You meet Cream]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{rating-nc17-button}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Object of the Game==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The object of the game is to seduce [[Cream the Rabbit]] into as many sex acts as possible. Your score is based on the number of times you manage each of the following:&lt;br /&gt;
*Showered with Cream&lt;br /&gt;
*Slept with Cream&lt;br /&gt;
*Groped Cream &lt;br /&gt;
*Cream gives you a blow job&lt;br /&gt;
*Jerked off on Cream&lt;br /&gt;
*Had sex with Cream&lt;br /&gt;
*Used the Carrot toy on Cream&lt;br /&gt;
*Used Vanilla's toy on Cream&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==How to play==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Most of the time, the window displays a room. There is an icon of Cream in the upper right corner.  You can move to another room by choosing from the options at the bottom of the window.  Click on Cream and she will appear, and a menu of choices will be shown at the right.  Click on an action to do it.  Sometimes, choosing an action will lead to other actions or choices.  For example, if you choose to watch Cartoons, you will then have an opportunity to watch a movie with Cream.  She will fall asleep, and you will have a choice of pulling up her dress to peek at her panties or continue watching the movie.  Each of these leads to other choices, with different consequences.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The actions available to you -- and the results -- depend on a set of stats, which represent your progress in getting Cream to like you and be comfortable around you.  These are:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*'''Relationship with Cream (RWC)''': How much Cream trusts you.  This starts at 10.  Most activities will raise this, but if you frighten Cream or are mean to her, it can go down.&lt;br /&gt;
*'''Moral Alignment''': How &amp;quot;naughty or nice&amp;quot; you are.  Starts at zero.  Goes down if you do something to Cream without her consent.  Goes up if you let Cream off something (e.g., &amp;quot;you don't have to take off your panties&amp;quot; if she loses the racing game).&lt;br /&gt;
*'''Happiness''': How happy Cream is.  A high happiness gets a good ending, and can also unlock other parts of the game.&lt;br /&gt;
*'''Lust''': How much lust you feel toward Cream.  The more lust, the more you'll feel like initiating sexual things with her.&lt;br /&gt;
*'''Touch''': Goes up when you touch or tickle Cream.  Will unlock different events when it gets high enough.&lt;br /&gt;
*'''Peep''': How well you can spy on Cream.  Raise by catching her in her panties or doing something naughty, and not getting caught.&lt;br /&gt;
*'''Exposure (EXP)''': How comfortable Cream is with seeing you naked.  Goes up when you expose yourself in front of her without angering or upsetting her (e.g., if she asks to see you in the pool).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In addition to the above, there are two stats that vary from time to time during the game:&lt;br /&gt;
*'''Hunger''': How well-fed Cream is.  When this is zero or negative, you can feed her and raise her RWC.  Pizza is especially good for this and also makes her happy.&lt;br /&gt;
*'''Energy''': This sort-of substitutes for time within each day of the game.  You start with 100 points, and various actions will use up energy.  Getting a night's sleep raises it by 100 points.  You can also raise it by taking a shower, buying pizza, or buying something from .  (It can go above 100.)  It's possible to go to bed with negative points, in which case you'll wake up with slightly under 100.&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:CreamLiving.png|right|thumb=CreamLiving-180px.png|Living Room]]Your current energy is displayed in the upper left corner of the window at (almost) all times.  The other stats are shown in a black book, &amp;quot;Sonic's Journal&amp;quot; in the upper left corner of the Living Room.  It also shows your &amp;quot;score&amp;quot; in terms of sexual acts. The purple arrow in the image at the right points to Sonic's Journal.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You have seven days to get as many sexual things as you can.  Vanilla will return on the morning of the eighth day, and the ending will be played.  The current ending is incomplete, but it has a few drawings as teasers of the eventual, complete ending.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Strategy ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Creamkitchen.png|right|thumb=Creamkitchen-180px.png|Kitchen, with action choices]]The most important thing is, try lots of different things, find out what results you get.  Some things that don't get good results early in the game will get a better result once you've raised your stats enough.  For example, if you visit Cream in her room and ask her to take off her dress, she will refuse at first.  But once you've gotten your RWC and EXP stats high enough, she will do that.  You get new options when she is in her panties, and yet others when you get her naked.&lt;br /&gt;
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Each activity can be done only once a day, so plan ahead: figure out what you want to get and do the things that will lead to that. In the new version, there is unlimited energy so all activities can be done in one day. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== General ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Feed Cream whenever you can!  It raises RWC and (for Pizza) Happiness.  Also, if she gets hungry while you're watching a movie, you will lose the options at the end.&lt;br /&gt;
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Never miss out an opportunity to touch or tickle Cream.  Raising your Touch stat enables new options.  But be careful of boundaries -- overdo it and your alignment will sink. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It is possible to get sexual things with a positive alignment or a negative one, but the paths you must take are different.  Don't let your alignment get ''too'' low (somewhere around -7), or some activities will be refused or have no effect.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:CreamBabysittingSonicsJournal.png|right|thumb=CreamBabysittingSonicsJournal-180px.png|Sonic's Journal]]Check Sonic's Journal (in the Living Room) often to see what effect your actions have had.  Not all actions announce what they did -- some things do nothing except raise RWC.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Building your stats ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the first few days, most of the useful actions occur in the Living Room, the Backyard, at the Mall and in the Park (plus, of course, the Kitchen whenever Cream is hungry).  You can watch cartoons and then a movie (and get a chance to raise Exposure, Lust, Jerk Off, and/or Peep).  Play a videogame and you can tickle her (and raise Touch).   Go swimming and play Marco Polo or &amp;quot;Who can make the biggest splash&amp;quot; -- each of these gives you an opportunity to raise your stats.  During this part of the game, it probably makes sense to be profligate with your energy.  Once you have done the limited set of things that will raise your stats for the day, use up the rest of your energy doing random things that will raise RWC -- play dolls with Cream, or try all the different things at the mall, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
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Toward the middle of the week, when you've gotten your stats high enough, you will get new opportunities.  For example, you may see Cream peeking in at you when you're showering.  This gives you a chance to Jerk Off while she's watching, or to invite her to shower with you.  When playing a game, sometimes it's best to lose the game, sometimes to win.  During this phase, you need to be somewhat thrifty with your energy until you've gotten as much as you can, then go ahead and use it up as during the first few days.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Cashing in ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Once you have Touch high enough, you can get Cream to take off her dress.  At even higher stats, you can get her to take off her panties.  When that happens, you can do more things.  The higher your stats, the more things will be successful.  But not everything is going to work -- the game is still incomplete.  Once you've reached this point, it's useful to summon Cream to her own room, or to Vanilla's room, where you can get her naked and (maybe) &amp;quot;do things&amp;quot; to her.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
During this phase, you need to hoard your energy carefully.  There are only so many things that you can do (or try to do) before you run out of energy for the day.  Play the game through a few times to see what works, then get those things done first.  Once you've accomplished as much as you can with the day, ''then'' go ahead and spend energy to raise RWC and other stats still farther.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Problems ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The game is incomplete, so there are some actions/options that don't do anything.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Examples&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* In Vanilla's Room, you can click on Vanilla's Computer, but none of the options on her screen does anything, except Log Off which takes you back to Vanilla's Room.&lt;br /&gt;
* When you are &amp;quot;Outside&amp;quot; (in front of Vanilla's house) and summon Cream, there is an option to go to the Beach.  But when you hover over it, you are told &amp;quot;NOT AVAILABLE IN DEMO&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
* When doing the &amp;quot;Lets see who can make the biggest splash&amp;quot; activity in the pool, Creams top will come off, but if you choose to give it back to her directly, it wont let you do anything further on.&lt;br /&gt;
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There are also some actions that &amp;quot;do something&amp;quot; -- they change your stats in some way -- but give no description, nor any indication of what happened, aside from a decrease in your energy.  This can be particularly annoying toward the end of the week, when you have built your stats up enough that some of the sex options &amp;quot;should&amp;quot; work.  But in a few cases, clicking the option gives no error, no indication that you have succeeded, and if you go back and examine Sonic's Journal, you will find that you didn't get credit for that sex act.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The game could probably be improved with a few simple messages, .e.g., &amp;quot;You play tag for a while, then Cream gets tired and wants to rest.&amp;quot; (with a note: RWC +5).  Another possible improvement would be to display the Journal at all times, so you can immediately check the result of your last action.  Or, as in some games, have an on/off option to display the stats in a translucent overlay at the top of the screen.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== External links==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.funny-games.biz/babysitting-cream-v084.html Babysitting Cream V084] and [http://www.funny-games.biz/babysitting-cream-v05.html v5] at Funny Games (old version)&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://inkbunny.net/submissionview.php?id=72066 Babysitting Cream] at [[Inkbunny]] (latest beta)&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>CabinCon (Norway)</title>
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'''CabinCon''' is a [[furmeet]] that is hosted by [[Sayh]] and [[Swandog]]. As the name implies, it takes place in a cabin. Attempts will be made to run the meet every year at summertime, as long as there are no conflicting issues to take care of that particular year.&lt;br /&gt;
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==History==&lt;br /&gt;
CabinCon has been held approximately nine times over the years. It took place at Sayh's cabin near [[Wikipedia:sv:Töcksfors|Töcksfors]], [[Wikipedia:Sweden|Sweden]] until it was sold in 2004. About a year later, a new cabin was acquired near [[Wikipedia:Vinstra|Vinstra]], [[Wikipedia:Norway|Norway]]. The first meet that was hosted there took place in July 2005 with 11 furs. This year (2010), it will most like be held on 16-19th of July--and possibly from the 15th, though that is not yet certain.{{cn}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
* {{con resources}}&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>User:Ô</title>
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&lt;div&gt;Hi, you have reached my user page. I don't feel like writing much here, but I don't like red links.&lt;br /&gt;
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I plan on fixing the [[fchan]] article and a few others. Assuming I will stay here after a recent incident involving personal attacks from another user. I don't understand why [[GreenReaper]] would be so careless as to completely ignore the attacks made against me.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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[[File:ZanobiFursuit.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Zanobi]]&lt;br /&gt;
'''Zanobi''' is a [[fursuiter]] who lives in [[Wikipedia:Wisconsin|Wisconsin]], U.S.A.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://twitter.com/#!/Zanobi1 Zanobi's profile] on [[Twitter]]. Retrieved July 19, 2011&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Zanobi's [[fursona]] is a [[hybrid]] of [[dragon]] and [[rabbit]]. He has green and white fur, with bits of black. &lt;br /&gt;
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==Fursuits==&lt;br /&gt;
Zanobi owns two fursuits:&lt;br /&gt;
* '''Zanobi''', the fursuit depicting his fursona.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5770658/ &amp;quot;Zanobi improvements&amp;quot;] - posting by [[Onai]] on [[Fur Affinity]]. Dated May 18, 2011. Retrieved July 19, 2011&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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* '''Jack''', a [[rabbit]]. (Retired) &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4178691/&amp;quot;white Queen&amp;quot;] - posting by Zanobi on [[Fur Affinity]]. Dated July 28, 2009. Retrieved July 19, 2011&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
Both Jack and Zanobi were built by Onai.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.furaffinity.net/user/onai &amp;quot;Onai's FA page&amp;quot;] &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.furaffinity.net/user/rabbitking/ &amp;quot;Zanobi's FA Page&amp;quot;] &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Contributor|Zanobi2}}&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://twitter.com/#!/Zanobi1 Zanobi] on [[Twitter]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/rabbitking Rabbitking (Zanobi)] on [[Fur Affinity]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.youtube.com/user/rabbitking2 Rabbitking2 (Zanobi)] and [http://www.youtube.com/user/Zanobi2 Zanobi2] on [[YouTube]]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Forum:Forum:Personal attacks by User:Equivamp</title>
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This user has been leaving abusive messages on my talk page after I requested she stop edit warring. She is also a member of Encyclopedia Dramatica, which alone shows she is looking for trouble. [[User:Ô|Ô]] 20:45, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Actually, it was you who's been leaving abusive messages on both [[User talk:Equivamp|my talk page]] and [[Talk:Felidae (novel)]], sorry if you think otherwise. [[Special:Contributions/174.126.213.241|174.126.213.241]] 20:48, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Oops, wasn't logged in. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:49, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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All I did was defend a user you identified as a vandal. At that point, you began attacking me. [[User:Ô|Ô]] 20:52, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Um, no. First off, there was no &amp;quot;user&amp;quot;, only an IP whose edits I reverted. Second, I've said again and again that I have not viewed them as a vandal--they were, however, removing content from an article and replacing it with text that was discussed later in the article, so I reverted the unhelpful edit, and you accused me of being &amp;quot;abusive&amp;quot; and started reverting my edits, and then when the page was locked you brought it to my talkpage, and now to here. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:55, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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You left abusive messages on my talk page, after I left a simple message asking you to stop edit warring. [[User:Ô|Ô]] 20:59, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Really? I feel you were the one edit warring, while I was doing my best to keep the page as accurate as possible. Also:&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Quote|I notice you are from ED, classy! You shouldn't be here for that reason alone!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Hm, you're right. You must be a real nice guy since within an hour of being here you can decide who's allowed here. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:04, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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First off, this is ED we are talking about, a website that attacks people for no reason other than &amp;quot;the lulz&amp;quot;. Also, I have been a long time IP editor. [[User:Ô|Ô]] 21:08, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Actually, this is ''[[WikiFur]]'' we are talking about. You deluding yourself to beleive I am here to &amp;quot;cause trouble&amp;quot; when the only one instigating anything is you. And, if you say you've been a long time IP editor, that seems to conflict with your statements on [[Talk:Felidae (novel)]], where you say they shouldn't be allowed here. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:14, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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And I strongly believe they should not! That was my only reason for signing up here in the first place. [[User:Ô|Ô]] 21:20, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Then you won't mind providing your IP address to verify what appears to be an inconsistency in your claims? [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:22, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't plan on giving you, or your troll friends anything until an admin shows up. [[User:Ô|Ô]] 21:25, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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LOL, [[Wikipedia:Oxymoron|Troll friends]]. Oh, and I doubt they care. You don't have anything and I suspect this is a case of trolls trolling trolls. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:30, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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You are getting us nowhere in this discussion. I now request that an admin review your actions. [[User:Ô|Ô]] 21:34, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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This user has been leaving abusive messages on my talk page after I requested she stop edit warring. She is also a member of Encyclopedia Dramatica, which alone shows she is looking for trouble. [[User:Ô|Ô]] 20:45, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Actually, it was you who's been leaving abusive messages on both [[User talk:Equivamp|my talk page]] and [[Talk:Felidae (novel)]], sorry if you think otherwise. [[Special:Contributions/174.126.213.241|174.126.213.241]] 20:48, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Oops, wasn't logged in. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:49, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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All I did was defend a user you identified as a vandal. At that point, you began attacking me. [[User:Ô|Ô]] 20:52, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Um, no. First off, there was no &amp;quot;user&amp;quot;, only an IP whose edits I reverted. Second, I've said again and again that I have not viewed them as a vandal--they were, however, removing content from an article and replacing it with text that was discussed later in the article, so I reverted the unhelpful edit, and you accused me of being &amp;quot;abusive&amp;quot; and started reverting my edits, and then when the page was locked you brought it to my talkpage, and now to here. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:55, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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You left abusive messages on my talk page, after I left a simple message asking you to stop edit warring. [[User:Ô|Ô]] 20:59, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Really? I feel you were the one edit warring, while I was doing my best to keep the page as accurate as possible. Also:&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Quote|I notice you are from ED, classy! You shouldn't be here for that reason alone!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Hm, you're right. You must be a real nice guy since within an hour of being here you can decide who's allowed here. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:04, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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First off, this is ED we are talking about, a website that attacks people for no reason other than &amp;quot;the lulz&amp;quot;. Also, I have been a long time IP editor. [[User:Ô|Ô]] 21:08, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Actually, this is ''[[WikiFur]]'' we are talking about. You deluding yourself to beleive I am here to &amp;quot;cause trouble&amp;quot; when the only one instigating anything is you. And, if you say you've been a long time IP editor, that seems to conflict with your statements on [[Talk:Felidae (novel)]], where you say they shouldn't be allowed here. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:14, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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And I strongly believe they should not! That was my only reason for signing up here in the first place. [[User:Ô|Ô]] 21:20, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Then you won't mind providing your IP address to verify what appears to be an inconsistency in your claims? [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:22, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't plan on giving you, or your troll friends anything until an admin shows up. [[User:Ô|Ô]] 21:25, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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This user has been leaving abusive messages on my talk page after I requested she stop edit warring. She is also a member of Encyclopedia Dramatica, which alone shows she is looking for trouble. [[User:Ô|Ô]] 20:45, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Actually, it was you who's been leaving abusive messages on both [[User talk:Equivamp|my talk page]] and [[Talk:Felidae (novel)]], sorry if you think otherwise. [[Special:Contributions/174.126.213.241|174.126.213.241]] 20:48, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Oops, wasn't logged in. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:49, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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All I did was defend a user you identified as a vandal. At that point, you began attacking me. [[User:Ô|Ô]] 20:52, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Um, no. First off, there was no &amp;quot;user&amp;quot;, only an IP whose edits I reverted. Second, I've said again and again that I have not viewed them as a vandal--they were, however, removing content from an article and replacing it with text that was discussed later in the article, so I reverted the unhelpful edit, and you accused me of being &amp;quot;abusive&amp;quot; and started reverting my edits, and then when the page was locked you brought it to my talkpage, and now to here. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:55, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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You left abusive messages on my talk page, after I left a simple message asking you to stop edit warring. [[User:Ô|Ô]] 20:59, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Really? I feel you were the one edit warring, while I was doing my best to keep the page as accurate as possible. Also:&lt;br /&gt;
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Hm, you're right. You must be a real nice guy since within an hour of being here you can decide who's allowed here. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:04, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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First off, this is ED we are talking about, a website that attacks people for no reason other than &amp;quot;the lulz&amp;quot;. Also, I have been a long time IP editor. [[User:Ô|Ô]] 21:08, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Actually, this is ''[[WikiFur]]'' we are talking about. You deluding yourself to beleive I am here to &amp;quot;cause trouble&amp;quot; when the only one instigating anything is you. And, if you say you've been a long time IP editor, that seems to conflict with your statements on [[Talk:Felidae (novel)]], where you say they shouldn't be allowed here. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:14, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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And I strongly believe they should not! That was my only reason for signing up here in the first place. [[User:Ô|Ô]] 21:20, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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This user has been leaving abusive messages on my talk page after I requested she stop edit warring. She is also a member of Encyclopedia Dramatica, which alone shows she is looking for trouble. [[User:Ô|Ô]] 20:45, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Actually, it was you who's been leaving abusive messages on both [[User talk:Equivamp|my talk page]] and [[Talk:Felidae (novel)]], sorry if you think otherwise. [[Special:Contributions/174.126.213.241|174.126.213.241]] 20:48, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Oops, wasn't logged in. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:49, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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All I did was defend a user you identified as a vandal. At that point, you began attacking me. [[User:Ô|Ô]] 20:52, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Um, no. First off, there was no &amp;quot;user&amp;quot;, only an IP whose edits I reverted. Second, I've said again and again that I have not viewed them as a vandal--they were, however, removing content from an article and replacing it with text that was discussed later in the article, so I reverted the unhelpful edit, and you accused me of being &amp;quot;abusive&amp;quot; and started reverting my edits, and then when the page was locked you brought it to my talkpage, and now to here. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:55, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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You left abusive messages on my talk page, after I left a simple message asking you to stop edit warring. [[User:Ô|Ô]] 20:59, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Really? I feel you were the one edit warring, while I was doing my best to keep the page as accurate as possible. Also:&lt;br /&gt;
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Hm, you're right. You must be a real nice guy since within an hour of being here you can decide who's allowed here. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:04, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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First off, this is ED we are talking about, a website that attacks people for no reason other than &amp;quot;the lulz&amp;quot;. Also, I have been a long time IP editor. [[User:Ô|Ô]] 21:08, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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This user has been leaving abusive messages on my talk page after I requested she stop edit warring. She is also a member of Encyclopedia Dramatica, which alone shows she is looking for trouble. [[User:Ô|Ô]] 20:45, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Actually, it was you who's been leaving abusive messages on both [[User talk:Equivamp|my talk page]] and [[Talk:Felidae (novel)]], sorry if you think otherwise. [[Special:Contributions/174.126.213.241|174.126.213.241]] 20:48, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Oops, wasn't logged in. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:49, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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All I did was defend a user you identified as a vandal. At that point, you began attacking me. [[User:Ô|Ô]] 20:52, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Um, no. First off, there was no &amp;quot;user&amp;quot;, only an IP whose edits I reverted. Second, I've said again and again that I have not viewed them as a vandal--they were, however, removing content from an article and replacing it with text that was discussed later in the article, so I reverted the unhelpful edit, and you accused me of being &amp;quot;abusive&amp;quot; and started reverting my edits, and then when the page was locked you brought it to my talkpage, and now to here. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:55, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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You left abusive messages on my talk page, after I left a simple message asking you to stop edit warring. [[User:Ô|Ô]] 20:59, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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This user has been leaving abusive messages on my talk page after I requested she stop edit warring. She is also a member of Encyclopedia Dramatica, which alone shows she is looking for trouble. [[User:Ô|Ô]] 20:45, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Actually, it was you who's been leaving abusive messages on both [[User talk:Equivamp|my talk page]] and [[Talk:Felidae (novel)]], sorry if you think otherwise. [[Special:Contributions/174.126.213.241|174.126.213.241]] 20:48, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Oops, wasn't logged in. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:49, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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All I did was defend a user you identified as a vandal. At that point, you began attacking me. [[User:Ô|Ô]] 20:52, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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This user has been leaving abusive messages on my talk page after I requested she stop edit warring. She is also a member of Encyclopedia Dramatica, which alone shows she is looking for trouble. [[User:Ô|Ô]] 20:45, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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Old stuff can be found [[User talk:Equivamp/Archives|here]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Finally got round to editing the Dinosaur page==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hello Equivamp :3&lt;br /&gt;
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I finally got round to fixing that damn Dinosaur page. I hope its up to standard and there are no errors. Please contact me via email if you spot anything that needs changing: Well_Tossed_Salad@hotmail.com.&lt;br /&gt;
Sorry it took so long. I feel it might not contain enough information about its relation to the furry fandom however. Would it be possible to ask that people add that in a separate paragraph on that page, rather than removing the scientific information that I had added, as I have no doubt that it will fill with crud again if the facts are removed.[[User:Palaeofox|Palaeofox]] 10:11, 5 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Blocking Meepsheep ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Wait, so I'm not welcome here? Meepsheep wasn't making negative edits, as far as I saw. We're welcome there, as long as we're good; aren't we supposed to assume good faith? [[File:Scalesona.jpg|40x40px]][[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 10:22, 19 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Meepsheep has been responsible for significant disruption of this wiki in the past few months, as he has [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Meepsheep/Archive|at Wikipedia]] and [[Wikia:c:sonic:Category:Sockpuppets of MeepSheep|several]] [[Wikiquote:Category:Wikiquote sockpuppets of Meepsheep|other]] [http://heroeswiki.com/User_talk:Meepsheep wikis]. Massive, continued proxy abuse, front page and template vandalism, you name it. I have reported this abuse to his ISP on more than one occasion. He is not welcome here, period. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:48, 19 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:To answer your more general question: contributors to WikiFur are expected to remain neutral, and actions which call this neutrality into question are problematic. We ''cannot'' assume you are editing an article about a person in good faith if you are also making fun of them over at ED (or elsewhere). I have blocked at least one editor for this precise activity in the past. You really need to make a choice – do you want to be known as a person who fairly and dispassionately reports on the fandom and those within in, or one who publicly documents the weaknesses and failings of fellow fans for your own amusement? --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:00, 19 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I see. I hadn't realized wikifur was so inclusive, or that I'd ever made any negative edits to this wiki. [[File:Scalesona.jpg|40x40px]][[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 09:29, 20 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::It was not a matter of making negative edits to this wiki. It was purportedly editing in a neutral matter while at the same time spreading shit on ED. I hope that is clear? :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:35, 20 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I just thought I'd point out that when you stick a template on a page that template also appears (in the exact same form) in any pages that it's transcluded in (so for example that info box you marked for merging was transcluded in the article proper, so therefore the template was too). The easiest way to fix that is to use [http://en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=Kogenta/Infobox&amp;amp;curid=25143&amp;amp;diff=332878&amp;amp;oldid=332849 noinclude tags] like that-[[User:El, oh, el|El, oh, el]] 19:22, 21 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Is there anyway to have a bot put ContributorU on user pages, at least the ones with a matching article name? Or, perhaps, one that puts welcome templates on the talk pages of new users? [[File:Scalesona.jpg|40x40px]][[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 19:53, 22 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Both of those are technically feasible, but the first would require writing a bot script and assumes they are the same person, while I'm not sure the second is a good idea in general. Welcomes are at best rather impersonal if you have a bot do them, and at worst end up looking stupid when you start welcoming vandals (faking the last admin to edit signing it only makes it worse, as seen at Wikia). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:02, 22 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::All right. Just a thought I was wondering about. [[File:Scalesona.jpg|40x40px]][[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 20:11, 22 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== encyclopediadramatica.ch Unavailable? ==&lt;br /&gt;
I've gotten a problem; whenever I type in encyclopediadramatica.ch since this morning, it takes me to Virgin Media advanced search ( Virgin Media is my current ISP ). Is anyone else having this problem? Or is VM blocking ED for no good reason? ( kind of like how AT&amp;amp;T blocked 4chan a little while ago ). But anyway, what is wrong with the site?  - [[User:Another n00b|Another n00b]] 10:32, 28 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The domain name does not officially exist, which is why Virgin Media search is coming up (presumably they're one of those who annoyingly take over such results for their own purposes). However, it is registered. This suggests that it has been blocked for some reason, perhaps due to [https://www.nic.ch/reg/index/view.html it's domain registrar's malware policy]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 10:39, 28 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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What do you define the difference between a [[fursuit]] and an [[wikipedia:animal costume|animal costume]]? The subject has come up at [[wikipedia:Talk:Fursuit#Explanation of edits undone|Wikiepdia's fursuit article]], but I'm a rather poor debater, and feel my opinion is pretty closed-minded. My opinion is that a fursuit is only a fursuit if associated with furry, otherwise, it's an animal or mascot costume. However, I know that some feel an animal costume is a fursuit, and the two are synonymous. I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on this. [[File:Scalesona.jpg|40x40px]][[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 12:43, 28 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:As it happens I was already reading that discussion. I think my response would be much the same as yours - certainly, animal costumes existed, but they were not used for the same reasons, nor (apparently) called the same thing. I might respond there, but I'm a little busy at work now. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:49, 28 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, whenever I try to edit a section or add a new section, the wiki tries to replace the entire text with the section. Any thoughts on why this is? It may have something to do with the fact that I am using Internet Explorer, which gives me problems in general on this Wiki. [[File:Scalesona.jpg|40x40px]][[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 12:45, 28 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:What version of IE is it? Does it happen if you do turn off the advanced editing functions in [[Special:Preferences|preferences]] so that you no longer have the WikiEditor toolbar showing? --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:49, 28 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::It's the newest version. The only difference between the newest version and the older one (which I used on my PC) is that this allows me to edit, as long as I do not scroll down the page, whereas the older would simply lock up my computer if I even went to an edit page. The only way I am able to edit on this laptop I often use is by typing without scrolling too much, and then clicking the &amp;quot;Changes&amp;quot; tab, where it allows me to scroll down to click save. I have just turned off the advanced editing functions, and it still did it. [[File:Scalesona.jpg|40x40px]][[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 13:03, 28 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Twilightwolf4==&lt;br /&gt;
Can anyone revert this user discussion page back to the privious edits by Greenreaper considering there is evidence of this user history of recoloring artwork without the user permission. Not to mention she has been banned from DA for this recently. Original account [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/twilightwolf4/ Twilightwolf4] The evasion account &lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.furaffinity.net/user/twilight-kun/ twilight-kun] The recent journal as well as previous journal confirms this fact. also this account [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/hawkshadow741/ hawkshadow741] the comments give an idea of how many evasions she has made. though there is a lot more information about this user on deviantart considering she is banned from there as well for the same behavior.[[User:Tridragon|Tridragon]] 15:26, 29 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Disregard the email I just sent ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You took care of it. [[File:Scalesona.jpg|40x40px]][[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 21:44, 2 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Actually, now might be a good time to ask. I'd like to be able to fight vandalism with greater ease. And while it wouldn't have helped much in this last situation, would it be too much of me to request rollback privelages? [[File:Scalesona.jpg|40x40px]][[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 21:55, 2 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Sure. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:01, 2 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Wow, really? I was honestly expecting a &amp;quot;I'm sorry, but...&amp;quot; (Especially considering my recent ousting as an EDiot.) Thanks! [[File:Scalesona.jpg|40x40px]][[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 22:06, 2 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Just keep in mind [[Wikipedia:Vandalism#What is not vandalism|what is not vandalism]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:08, 2 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Policy Question ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Do I need permission to write an article about somebody or could I create a stub based off of information on someone simply based off of their FurAffinity information? [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:17, 14 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Anyone can start an article on any topic, unless a personal exclusion is in effect. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:32, 14 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Standard formatting==&lt;br /&gt;
Two things you may want to keep in mind:&lt;br /&gt;
* The entries in an external link list are bulleted with a &amp;quot;*&amp;quot; at the start.&lt;br /&gt;
* The standard category orders go: &amp;quot;People&amp;quot; -&amp;gt; Activity-related (&amp;quot;Artists&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Fursuiters&amp;quot;, etc) -&amp;gt; Species/character categories (&amp;quot;Wolf characters&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Second Life characters&amp;quot;, etc) -&amp;gt; Geographical categories -&amp;gt; Date-related categories.&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Higgs Raccoon|Higgs Raccoon]] 03:35, 16 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:'Kay. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 04:48, 16 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hi ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Please '''stop''' edit waring, an admin has already corrected you! [[User:Ô|Ô]] 18:23, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I also notice you are an ED user, classy. You shouldn't be on here for that reason alone! [[User:Ô|Ô]] 18:36, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I am only trying to '''improve the site'''. Yes, I am new here, but it doesn't take long to see that WikiFur is going downhill. Also, ED users have done nothing but attack this site and the entire community! [[User:Ô|Ô]] 18:47, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ô</name></author>	</entry>

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		<id>//en.wikifur.com/wiki/User_talk:Equivamp</id>
		<title>User talk:Equivamp</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/User_talk:Equivamp"/>
				<updated>2011-07-17T22:36:59Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ô: /* Hi */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;font size=&amp;quot;+2&amp;quot;&amp;gt;I AM NOT AN ADMIN.&amp;lt;/font size&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Archives==&lt;br /&gt;
Old stuff can be found [[User talk:Equivamp/Archives|here]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Finally got round to editing the Dinosaur page==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hello Equivamp :3&lt;br /&gt;
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I finally got round to fixing that damn Dinosaur page. I hope its up to standard and there are no errors. Please contact me via email if you spot anything that needs changing: Well_Tossed_Salad@hotmail.com.&lt;br /&gt;
Sorry it took so long. I feel it might not contain enough information about its relation to the furry fandom however. Would it be possible to ask that people add that in a separate paragraph on that page, rather than removing the scientific information that I had added, as I have no doubt that it will fill with crud again if the facts are removed.[[User:Palaeofox|Palaeofox]] 10:11, 5 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Blocking Meepsheep ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Wait, so I'm not welcome here? Meepsheep wasn't making negative edits, as far as I saw. We're welcome there, as long as we're good; aren't we supposed to assume good faith? [[File:Scalesona.jpg|40x40px]][[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 10:22, 19 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Meepsheep has been responsible for significant disruption of this wiki in the past few months, as he has [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Meepsheep/Archive|at Wikipedia]] and [[Wikia:c:sonic:Category:Sockpuppets of MeepSheep|several]] [[Wikiquote:Category:Wikiquote sockpuppets of Meepsheep|other]] [http://heroeswiki.com/User_talk:Meepsheep wikis]. Massive, continued proxy abuse, front page and template vandalism, you name it. I have reported this abuse to his ISP on more than one occasion. He is not welcome here, period. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:48, 19 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:To answer your more general question: contributors to WikiFur are expected to remain neutral, and actions which call this neutrality into question are problematic. We ''cannot'' assume you are editing an article about a person in good faith if you are also making fun of them over at ED (or elsewhere). I have blocked at least one editor for this precise activity in the past. You really need to make a choice – do you want to be known as a person who fairly and dispassionately reports on the fandom and those within in, or one who publicly documents the weaknesses and failings of fellow fans for your own amusement? --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:00, 19 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I see. I hadn't realized wikifur was so inclusive, or that I'd ever made any negative edits to this wiki. [[File:Scalesona.jpg|40x40px]][[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 09:29, 20 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::It was not a matter of making negative edits to this wiki. It was purportedly editing in a neutral matter while at the same time spreading shit on ED. I hope that is clear? :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:35, 20 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Templates on transcluded pages ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I just thought I'd point out that when you stick a template on a page that template also appears (in the exact same form) in any pages that it's transcluded in (so for example that info box you marked for merging was transcluded in the article proper, so therefore the template was too). The easiest way to fix that is to use [http://en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=Kogenta/Infobox&amp;amp;curid=25143&amp;amp;diff=332878&amp;amp;oldid=332849 noinclude tags] like that-[[User:El, oh, el|El, oh, el]] 19:22, 21 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bots ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is there anyway to have a bot put ContributorU on user pages, at least the ones with a matching article name? Or, perhaps, one that puts welcome templates on the talk pages of new users? [[File:Scalesona.jpg|40x40px]][[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 19:53, 22 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Both of those are technically feasible, but the first would require writing a bot script and assumes they are the same person, while I'm not sure the second is a good idea in general. Welcomes are at best rather impersonal if you have a bot do them, and at worst end up looking stupid when you start welcoming vandals (faking the last admin to edit signing it only makes it worse, as seen at Wikia). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:02, 22 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::All right. Just a thought I was wondering about. [[File:Scalesona.jpg|40x40px]][[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 20:11, 22 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== encyclopediadramatica.ch Unavailable? ==&lt;br /&gt;
I've gotten a problem; whenever I type in encyclopediadramatica.ch since this morning, it takes me to Virgin Media advanced search ( Virgin Media is my current ISP ). Is anyone else having this problem? Or is VM blocking ED for no good reason? ( kind of like how AT&amp;amp;T blocked 4chan a little while ago ). But anyway, what is wrong with the site?  - [[User:Another n00b|Another n00b]] 10:32, 28 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The domain name does not officially exist, which is why Virgin Media search is coming up (presumably they're one of those who annoyingly take over such results for their own purposes). However, it is registered. This suggests that it has been blocked for some reason, perhaps due to [https://www.nic.ch/reg/index/view.html it's domain registrar's malware policy]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 10:39, 28 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Questions ==&lt;br /&gt;
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What do you define the difference between a [[fursuit]] and an [[wikipedia:animal costume|animal costume]]? The subject has come up at [[wikipedia:Talk:Fursuit#Explanation of edits undone|Wikiepdia's fursuit article]], but I'm a rather poor debater, and feel my opinion is pretty closed-minded. My opinion is that a fursuit is only a fursuit if associated with furry, otherwise, it's an animal or mascot costume. However, I know that some feel an animal costume is a fursuit, and the two are synonymous. I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on this. [[File:Scalesona.jpg|40x40px]][[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 12:43, 28 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:As it happens I was already reading that discussion. I think my response would be much the same as yours - certainly, animal costumes existed, but they were not used for the same reasons, nor (apparently) called the same thing. I might respond there, but I'm a little busy at work now. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:49, 28 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, whenever I try to edit a section or add a new section, the wiki tries to replace the entire text with the section. Any thoughts on why this is? It may have something to do with the fact that I am using Internet Explorer, which gives me problems in general on this Wiki. [[File:Scalesona.jpg|40x40px]][[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 12:45, 28 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:What version of IE is it? Does it happen if you do turn off the advanced editing functions in [[Special:Preferences|preferences]] so that you no longer have the WikiEditor toolbar showing? --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:49, 28 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::It's the newest version. The only difference between the newest version and the older one (which I used on my PC) is that this allows me to edit, as long as I do not scroll down the page, whereas the older would simply lock up my computer if I even went to an edit page. The only way I am able to edit on this laptop I often use is by typing without scrolling too much, and then clicking the &amp;quot;Changes&amp;quot; tab, where it allows me to scroll down to click save. I have just turned off the advanced editing functions, and it still did it. [[File:Scalesona.jpg|40x40px]][[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 13:03, 28 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Twilightwolf4==&lt;br /&gt;
Can anyone revert this user discussion page back to the privious edits by Greenreaper considering there is evidence of this user history of recoloring artwork without the user permission. Not to mention she has been banned from DA for this recently. Original account [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/twilightwolf4/ Twilightwolf4] The evasion account &lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.furaffinity.net/user/twilight-kun/ twilight-kun] The recent journal as well as previous journal confirms this fact. also this account [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/hawkshadow741/ hawkshadow741] the comments give an idea of how many evasions she has made. though there is a lot more information about this user on deviantart considering she is banned from there as well for the same behavior.[[User:Tridragon|Tridragon]] 15:26, 29 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Disregard the email I just sent ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You took care of it. [[File:Scalesona.jpg|40x40px]][[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 21:44, 2 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Actually, now might be a good time to ask. I'd like to be able to fight vandalism with greater ease. And while it wouldn't have helped much in this last situation, would it be too much of me to request rollback privelages? [[File:Scalesona.jpg|40x40px]][[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 21:55, 2 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Sure. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:01, 2 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Wow, really? I was honestly expecting a &amp;quot;I'm sorry, but...&amp;quot; (Especially considering my recent ousting as an EDiot.) Thanks! [[File:Scalesona.jpg|40x40px]][[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 22:06, 2 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Just keep in mind [[Wikipedia:Vandalism#What is not vandalism|what is not vandalism]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:08, 2 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Policy Question ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Do I need permission to write an article about somebody or could I create a stub based off of information on someone simply based off of their FurAffinity information? [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:17, 14 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Anyone can start an article on any topic, unless a personal exclusion is in effect. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:32, 14 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Standard formatting==&lt;br /&gt;
Two things you may want to keep in mind:&lt;br /&gt;
* The entries in an external link list are bulleted with a &amp;quot;*&amp;quot; at the start.&lt;br /&gt;
* The standard category orders go: &amp;quot;People&amp;quot; -&amp;gt; Activity-related (&amp;quot;Artists&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Fursuiters&amp;quot;, etc) -&amp;gt; Species/character categories (&amp;quot;Wolf characters&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Second Life characters&amp;quot;, etc) -&amp;gt; Geographical categories -&amp;gt; Date-related categories.&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Higgs Raccoon|Higgs Raccoon]] 03:35, 16 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:'Kay. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 04:48, 16 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hi ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Please '''stop''' edit waring, an admin has already corrected you! [[User:Ô|Ô]] 18:23, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I also notice you are an ED user, classy. You shouldn't be on here for that reason alone! [[User:Ô|Ô]] 18:36, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ô</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>//en.wikifur.com/wiki/User_talk:Equivamp</id>
		<title>User talk:Equivamp</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/User_talk:Equivamp"/>
				<updated>2011-07-17T22:23:58Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ô: /* Hi */ new section&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;font size=&amp;quot;+2&amp;quot;&amp;gt;I AM NOT AN ADMIN.&amp;lt;/font size&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Archives==&lt;br /&gt;
Old stuff can be found [[User talk:Equivamp/Archives|here]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Finally got round to editing the Dinosaur page==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hello Equivamp :3&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I finally got round to fixing that damn Dinosaur page. I hope its up to standard and there are no errors. Please contact me via email if you spot anything that needs changing: Well_Tossed_Salad@hotmail.com.&lt;br /&gt;
Sorry it took so long. I feel it might not contain enough information about its relation to the furry fandom however. Would it be possible to ask that people add that in a separate paragraph on that page, rather than removing the scientific information that I had added, as I have no doubt that it will fill with crud again if the facts are removed.[[User:Palaeofox|Palaeofox]] 10:11, 5 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Blocking Meepsheep ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Wait, so I'm not welcome here? Meepsheep wasn't making negative edits, as far as I saw. We're welcome there, as long as we're good; aren't we supposed to assume good faith? [[File:Scalesona.jpg|40x40px]][[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 10:22, 19 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Meepsheep has been responsible for significant disruption of this wiki in the past few months, as he has [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Meepsheep/Archive|at Wikipedia]] and [[Wikia:c:sonic:Category:Sockpuppets of MeepSheep|several]] [[Wikiquote:Category:Wikiquote sockpuppets of Meepsheep|other]] [http://heroeswiki.com/User_talk:Meepsheep wikis]. Massive, continued proxy abuse, front page and template vandalism, you name it. I have reported this abuse to his ISP on more than one occasion. He is not welcome here, period. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:48, 19 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:To answer your more general question: contributors to WikiFur are expected to remain neutral, and actions which call this neutrality into question are problematic. We ''cannot'' assume you are editing an article about a person in good faith if you are also making fun of them over at ED (or elsewhere). I have blocked at least one editor for this precise activity in the past. You really need to make a choice – do you want to be known as a person who fairly and dispassionately reports on the fandom and those within in, or one who publicly documents the weaknesses and failings of fellow fans for your own amusement? --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:00, 19 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I see. I hadn't realized wikifur was so inclusive, or that I'd ever made any negative edits to this wiki. [[File:Scalesona.jpg|40x40px]][[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 09:29, 20 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::It was not a matter of making negative edits to this wiki. It was purportedly editing in a neutral matter while at the same time spreading shit on ED. I hope that is clear? :-) --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:35, 20 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Templates on transcluded pages ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I just thought I'd point out that when you stick a template on a page that template also appears (in the exact same form) in any pages that it's transcluded in (so for example that info box you marked for merging was transcluded in the article proper, so therefore the template was too). The easiest way to fix that is to use [http://en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=Kogenta/Infobox&amp;amp;curid=25143&amp;amp;diff=332878&amp;amp;oldid=332849 noinclude tags] like that-[[User:El, oh, el|El, oh, el]] 19:22, 21 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Bots ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Is there anyway to have a bot put ContributorU on user pages, at least the ones with a matching article name? Or, perhaps, one that puts welcome templates on the talk pages of new users? [[File:Scalesona.jpg|40x40px]][[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 19:53, 22 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Both of those are technically feasible, but the first would require writing a bot script and assumes they are the same person, while I'm not sure the second is a good idea in general. Welcomes are at best rather impersonal if you have a bot do them, and at worst end up looking stupid when you start welcoming vandals (faking the last admin to edit signing it only makes it worse, as seen at Wikia). --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:02, 22 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::All right. Just a thought I was wondering about. [[File:Scalesona.jpg|40x40px]][[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 20:11, 22 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== encyclopediadramatica.ch Unavailable? ==&lt;br /&gt;
I've gotten a problem; whenever I type in encyclopediadramatica.ch since this morning, it takes me to Virgin Media advanced search ( Virgin Media is my current ISP ). Is anyone else having this problem? Or is VM blocking ED for no good reason? ( kind of like how AT&amp;amp;T blocked 4chan a little while ago ). But anyway, what is wrong with the site?  - [[User:Another n00b|Another n00b]] 10:32, 28 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The domain name does not officially exist, which is why Virgin Media search is coming up (presumably they're one of those who annoyingly take over such results for their own purposes). However, it is registered. This suggests that it has been blocked for some reason, perhaps due to [https://www.nic.ch/reg/index/view.html it's domain registrar's malware policy]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 10:39, 28 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Questions ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
What do you define the difference between a [[fursuit]] and an [[wikipedia:animal costume|animal costume]]? The subject has come up at [[wikipedia:Talk:Fursuit#Explanation of edits undone|Wikiepdia's fursuit article]], but I'm a rather poor debater, and feel my opinion is pretty closed-minded. My opinion is that a fursuit is only a fursuit if associated with furry, otherwise, it's an animal or mascot costume. However, I know that some feel an animal costume is a fursuit, and the two are synonymous. I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on this. [[File:Scalesona.jpg|40x40px]][[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 12:43, 28 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:As it happens I was already reading that discussion. I think my response would be much the same as yours - certainly, animal costumes existed, but they were not used for the same reasons, nor (apparently) called the same thing. I might respond there, but I'm a little busy at work now. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:49, 28 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, whenever I try to edit a section or add a new section, the wiki tries to replace the entire text with the section. Any thoughts on why this is? It may have something to do with the fact that I am using Internet Explorer, which gives me problems in general on this Wiki. [[File:Scalesona.jpg|40x40px]][[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 12:45, 28 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:What version of IE is it? Does it happen if you do turn off the advanced editing functions in [[Special:Preferences|preferences]] so that you no longer have the WikiEditor toolbar showing? --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:49, 28 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::It's the newest version. The only difference between the newest version and the older one (which I used on my PC) is that this allows me to edit, as long as I do not scroll down the page, whereas the older would simply lock up my computer if I even went to an edit page. The only way I am able to edit on this laptop I often use is by typing without scrolling too much, and then clicking the &amp;quot;Changes&amp;quot; tab, where it allows me to scroll down to click save. I have just turned off the advanced editing functions, and it still did it. [[File:Scalesona.jpg|40x40px]][[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 13:03, 28 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Twilightwolf4==&lt;br /&gt;
Can anyone revert this user discussion page back to the privious edits by Greenreaper considering there is evidence of this user history of recoloring artwork without the user permission. Not to mention she has been banned from DA for this recently. Original account [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/twilightwolf4/ Twilightwolf4] The evasion account &lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.furaffinity.net/user/twilight-kun/ twilight-kun] The recent journal as well as previous journal confirms this fact. also this account [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/hawkshadow741/ hawkshadow741] the comments give an idea of how many evasions she has made. though there is a lot more information about this user on deviantart considering she is banned from there as well for the same behavior.[[User:Tridragon|Tridragon]] 15:26, 29 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Disregard the email I just sent ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You took care of it. [[File:Scalesona.jpg|40x40px]][[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 21:44, 2 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Actually, now might be a good time to ask. I'd like to be able to fight vandalism with greater ease. And while it wouldn't have helped much in this last situation, would it be too much of me to request rollback privelages? [[File:Scalesona.jpg|40x40px]][[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 21:55, 2 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Sure. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:01, 2 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Wow, really? I was honestly expecting a &amp;quot;I'm sorry, but...&amp;quot; (Especially considering my recent ousting as an EDiot.) Thanks! [[File:Scalesona.jpg|40x40px]][[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]] 22:06, 2 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Just keep in mind [[Wikipedia:Vandalism#What is not vandalism|what is not vandalism]]. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:08, 2 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Policy Question ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Do I need permission to write an article about somebody or could I create a stub based off of information on someone simply based off of their FurAffinity information? [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:17, 14 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Anyone can start an article on any topic, unless a personal exclusion is in effect. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:32, 14 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Standard formatting==&lt;br /&gt;
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* The entries in an external link list are bulleted with a &amp;quot;*&amp;quot; at the start.&lt;br /&gt;
* The standard category orders go: &amp;quot;People&amp;quot; -&amp;gt; Activity-related (&amp;quot;Artists&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Fursuiters&amp;quot;, etc) -&amp;gt; Species/character categories (&amp;quot;Wolf characters&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Second Life characters&amp;quot;, etc) -&amp;gt; Geographical categories -&amp;gt; Date-related categories.&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Higgs Raccoon|Higgs Raccoon]] 03:35, 16 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:'Kay. [[User:Equivamp|Equivamp]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Equivamp|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 04:48, 16 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Please '''stop''' edit waring, an admin has already corrected you! [[User:Ô|Ô]] 18:23, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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