Template talk:Upcoming events/Archive

List length
Something that's not necessarily an issue NOW, but we should think about before it becomes an issue, is what criteria are we going to have for listing stuff on this page? Do we only want large events that attract people from multiple states? Do we want to list smaller events? Do we want to list every single event including some Random Fur's furmeet that 8 people go to? Opinions welcome. --Dmuth 06:26, 1 Nov 2005 (UTC)


 * I am tempted to include as many things as possible, including those on a smaller scale (perhaps not quite that small, but certainly including those below 100 participants). However, we might not necessarily show them all at once, merely the closest ones. I'm sure the box on the front page could be tweaked to show only the closest 15 or something, and then have a link to show the entire list.


 * I do think that this is not a place for weekly or even monthly events. It's for one-off or yearly events, or maybe semi-yearly (if there are such things). -- 06:42, 1 Nov 2005 (UTC)


 * Limited engagements notwithstanding, the list is starting to lengthen quite a bit. Should there be a secondary page which shows a sort of yearly events calendar, and if so, how will anyone know to update it if schedules change? -- Siege 11:30, 10 Dec 2005 (UTC)


 * That might be useful. It could be setup to have - for example - a monthly overview per page with a date bar along the top or down one side. On the other hand, many of the event pages are also some of our best and longest pages, so it is useful to have links to them on the front page, and an immediately-readable list for people who may just have stumbled across the site. It is also good for search engine optimization to have such pages immediately accessible from the front page.


 * One possibility would be to have a box limited initially to a certain height (something like 10 to 15 entries) with max-height and overflow: none, and have an "expand" link that would increase it to full size with javascript. Or we could just not set overflow: none and use a scrollbar. This could be used for other boxes, too.


 * Note that the HTML produced for those links is quite compact, and so the load-time effect of having many hidden entries on the front page is minimal. It's also (deliberately) at the bottom of the page, so the visual length of it does not matter so much. -- 08:18, 11 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Not-exactly-furry
I see the Gathering of the Gargoyles and Comic-Con have been included, though it's described as not furry-specific. Would it be appropriate to include Otherkin-specific events? -- Siege 07:02, 12 Nov 2005 (UTC)


 * My opinion, since I started the list: if it's furry-related enough that it deserves an article in Wikifur, and important enough that it attracts people from outside the area, and not a weekly or monthly thing, then it should be in the list. --Rat 10:08, 13 Nov 2005 (UTC)


 * While I agree with this, I also think we need to draw the line somewhere. I think perhaps if a convention has an explicitly furry track it would qualify, but otherwise, there are other places to post convention information more suited to the individual interest. --Duncan da Husky 13:17, 10 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Of the ones currently in the list, I would say that Duckon is debatable because in theory Midwest FurFest has "the furry stuff" now. Arisia is not particularly furry but it is claimed that it has a "furry presence", whatever that means . . . anyone been to either to say? -- 16:32, 10 March 2006 (UTC)


 * As a matter of fact, Duckon does have a furry track, headed up by Robert King :-) Honestly, it's not particularly well-attended by the local furries and serves primarily as an introduction to furry fandom to science fiction fans, but it is explicitly labeled a furry programming track and typically has 6-8 panels. Arisia...I dunno. Looking at their 2006 Program Guide (PDF), I see one and only one explicitly furry panel. Omn that basis, I'd be inclined to drop it from the list. --Duncan da Husky 17:05, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

furry convention in Japan
There's a furry convention (website at http://kigu.lomo.jp/transfur/ ) that's apparently not listed at WikiFur yet, but I'm not sure what their name is. --EarthFurst 00:45, 2006 Feb 24 (UTC)


 * I'll have a look into that. Thanks for the heads-up! -- 01:01, 24 February 2006 (UTC)


 * It's already here under its Japanese name とらんすふぁ! -- Frizzy 20:58, 30 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes, I had a look into it and got in touch with the organizer, Panja. :-) --GreenReaper(talk) 21:04, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Pretties
This looks lovely with all those pretty little flag icons. Kudos to those responsible. -- Sine 21:35, 12 July 2006 (UTC)


 * It was indeed a group effort! I had the idea, SpazKitty found the icons and did the actual work of uploading and incorporating them, and DeVandalizer shifted it to several columns on the left. I tweaked it to two and cut the text, and we were done . . . for now. :-) --GreenReaper(talk) 21:39, 12 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Hey, I liked the icons so much, I also added it to the list of conventions by attendance. What do you think of adding a link to that list in the upcoming events template? Maybe we might encourage some visitors to send in more attendance information where we have data missing.


 * I've added that along with the list of convention resources and the convention photos link.


 * BTW, sorry about the columns thing, I was used to working 1600 wide, but should have been thinking about base case users. =^_^!= --Frizzy 02:08, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Amazingly enough, there are still 10% of visitors who use 800x600. Scary but true. --GreenReaper(talk) 07:05, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

FurCon in Argentina
Hi there... I'm quite new around here, and I couldn't help seeing you're lacking of information on artists regarding this side of the world. I was about to add a furry convention that will be taking place from 3rd to 5th November this year in Rosario city, Argentina.

Besides the convention particular case, I wondered if this is a correct place to add with south-America furry artists and conventions. I know lot of readers from here are around here, but I guess not much of them are adding to WikiFur...

Thanks. --Alpha 23:31, 12 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Hello AlphaWiki and welcome to WikiFur!


 * If you would like to add your convention to our website, feel free to start a new article! I personally recommend you title it FurCon Argentina or FurCon (Argentina) to avoid confusion with Further Confusion in California, which currently uses the title of "FurCon". If you need more help in learning how to edit articles, please visit the Help section.


 * We also recommend you include links to websites with supporting information to help interested parties find what they need. The rest of the community will make sure your convention information is added to relevant lists and charts.


 * Thanks! --Frizzy 00:04, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Free Furry Comic Day
I'm unsure of the appropriateness of this, mostly because it simply doesn't have many people involved yet (sum total: Sheryl Schopfer), and so I have removed this link. If we have a link, it should be a link to an article about the topic, not a direct external link. --GreenReaper(talk) 04:39, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I see Upcoming Events as a way of highlighting some of the articles on our site, just like Did You Know, and Featured Article. You wouldn't make the Featured Article an article on some other website. --Rat 04:47, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Event main article vs specific event pages
I noticed that a lot of the events in the list link to the article about the event globally, as a whole. However a lot of these events have articles about that specific event in addition to a main article. For example, there are Eurofurence and Anthrocon articles, but there are also specific articles for Eurofurence 14 and Anthrocon 2008. To me personally it would make more sense if the list would link to these specific articles rather than the main articles. That way, people could instantly find out more about that specific event rather than being linked to the main page first where they have to look for the proper link. So the question is mainly: is someone who sees the links in the list going to want to see the specific page or the main page of an event first? I'd say the former. CodeCat 20:31, 6 January 2008 (UTC)


 * It's a good point. So do we replace the links entirely? Just replace the last bit, so we have Eurofurence 14? Something else? Our articles about the convention series tend to be more complete; I worry that people may think that's all we have to offer (though the list at the right of such convention pages goes some way towards alleviating that). There is also an SEO consideration, though that is minor compared to making sure users get where they need to go.
 * Perhaps we are thinking about this the wrong way, and should ensure that the most current convention is always linked prominently in the lede of the main article instead? --GreenReaper(talk) 08:30, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Articles on future conventions are usually quite minimal and don't show our best work. They usually aren't the most helpful to the reader either. --Rat 10:06, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Maybe so, but the article on EF 14 will still tell me more about EF 14 than the main EF article. GreenReaper's idea doesn't seem bad though. Link the name of the event to the main article, and the year/number to that specific event. --CodeCat 12:04, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

RBW, Yiff! and Confuzzled
Why do Yiff! and ConFuzzled get an England specific flag, yet RBW gets a Union Flag? Just wondering mainly, although Yiff! is highly unlikely to be attended by anyone outside the UK, ConFuzzled is a fairly international event.

Any reason for this? Or possibly just something overlooked? -- Tori Belliachi ( talk &middot; contribs &middot; about) 19:22, 25 January 2008 (UTC)


 * No reason that I know of. The correct flag is likely to be the Union Jack, as their country is the United Kingdom. --GreenReaper(talk) 19:23, 25 January 2008 (UTC)


 * RBW originally had an England specific flag, but I felt that whilst I was editing the articles, it made more sense to use the Union Jack as it's probably more internationally identifiable. Axle 09:51, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

All Fur Fun
All Fur Fun is not listed for 2010. We have had a rocky time getting a hotel, since the Olympic Figureskating trials have taken up all of the convention hotels for the entire year. We are, however, going to hold a one-day event this year on May 15. Is that worthwhile to get on to the list? -- Tora Kiyoshi 16:57, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure; people would probably wonder what happened anyway. Just explain the situation in the article. --GreenReaper(talk) 17:23, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

TBA Cons
I'm just a casual user, and noticed that there's a bunch of events listed as TBA that actually have dates set for 2010. I'd edit them in, but the page is locked to me. Is there a place to wave hands and mention that some events have set dates? (e.g. RivFur and Camp Wildpaw) --some random furry 03:15, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Here would be an appropriate place. Perhaps you could login for next time! We don't usually protect pages, but vandalism just got too frequent. :-) --GreenReaper(talk) 03:21, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Missing flags
Seems that the Finnish flag is missing from the list or is at least not working with the country code "FI". —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Slvwolf (talk • contribs).
 * Ukrainian too, with ukr. I will have a look at updating the flag array when I get the chance. --GreenReaper(talk) 23:11, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Elliott's Fall Festival
2011 dates are 22-23 October 2012 dates are 20-21 October

Elliott's Spring Gathering 2012
Should be listed as 18-20 May 2012

Furry Beach
A Wikipedia user by the name of Thelpsgirl has updated List of furry conventions on Wikipedia with a convention called Furry Beach, which is allegedly taking place July 24-28, 2011 in Oceanside, CA, and has a website here. I'm highly skeptical that it's a real convention. The site looks like it was thrown together in fifteen minutes and has no more information about the location than that it's in a hotel along the beach, and the dates are also highly suspect, being a Sunday through Thursday starting less than a month from now. As such I'm not sure in what capacity it should be covered here on WikiFur. If anyone has credible evidence that this is a real convention, please let us know. --mwalimu 11:00, 27 June 2011 (EDT) Addendum: I've reverted the change on Wikipedia. Here's a link to the revision that included it.
 * Article created. Yeah, it was a fake.  --mwalimu 12:07, 29 July 2011 (EDT)

Elliott's Summer Celebration
The event will not be taking place this year. The Fall Festival is the only remaining Elliott event for 2011. Schedule for Elliott's Live Events Mamu Dingo 13:19, 16 July 2011 (EDT)
 * Thanks for the info. Looks like Winter isn't happening either. Don't blame him - it'd be a lot of hassle to put on four events a year! --GreenReaper(talk) 13:25, 16 July 2011 (EDT)

MiDFur 14
Can a direct link be provided to report updates or additions to the events page because we cannot edit it directly ourselves?

The dates for MiDFur 14 have been announced as being Tuesday December 4 to Saturday December 8. Our venue has permanent bookings for the Sundays, hence the odd ending date. --Goldfur


 * You should be able to edit it yourself if you are logged in as a registered user with sufficient editing length of registration and edit count (both small). Your first edit after our move from Wikia was to this talk page, and I'm guessing you either weren't logged in before that or it reset the count when it imported your account. --GreenReaper(talk) 15:54, 2 September 2012 (EDT)

Desucon
I'm questioning whether Desucon deserves treatment on the Upcoming events template. According to the article itself, the event is not a furry convention and has no furry programming, according to the Desucon website. If events that may attract any side gathering of furs qualifies, whether they be for other fandoms or general civic events, like fireworks displays or dog shows, then this list will become far less useful. I would recommend delisting Desucon for relevance and would appreciate discussion regarding this proposal. BlueOtter 11:15, 12 June 2012 (EDT)
 * If we delist Desucon, we should probably delist Duckon for the same reason. Desucon appears to be the only furry event in Norway remotely qualifying for a listing, though. --GreenReaper(talk) 15:57, 2 September 2012 (EDT)

Ukraine flag is wrong
The flag of Ukraine should be blue and yellow. I have no idea what the currently used flag for WUFF is supposed to stand for. O'zbekiston? --Unci 11:04, 2 September 2012 (EDT)


 * The flag (and flag alignment) have been fixed, and should be updated for everyone after their cached style expires (may take 24 hours or so). --GreenReaper(talk) 15:51, 2 September 2012 (EDT)

New Years Furry Ball
I'm one of the organizers for the New Years Furry Ball and I want to note that the event is actually being held in Delaware (DE). Right now it's listed as a PA event. --Kitt3ns 13:39, 18 December 2012 (EDT)