Talk:Bangor Wargaming and Role Playing Society

Possible accuracy dispute
Looking over the history of this article, it looks like there are two distinct "camps" who keep editing the article back and forth. We may have to resolve the issues hereif the issue continues. --Douglas Muth 21:36, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Furthermore, statements about schisms, cliques and apparent hostilities are, if not wholly fictitious, then at least wildly out of proportion and can only serve to damamge the reputation of both societies.
 * To put the edit history in context, the article was found by a long-running member of BWRPS (not BAMs) who felt in reviewing it that there were several amendments that should be made - that some individuals were not being given due credit for their work in founding BAMS, and that BWRPS was being mis-represented as a predominately furry society. BWRPS is exactly what the name says: a Wargame and Roleplay society, and anyone joining it expecting a Fursoc is likely to be disappointed - yes we have Furs in the club, but that is not our raison d'etre.

All amendments to this article have since been removed as "vandalism" - an action that borders on censorship. If the editers require proof of the factual inaccuracies, documentation is available. If the subjective statements are not properly labelled as opinion rather than fact, this article will be brought to the attention of all club members.

"If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly and redistributed at will, then don't submit it here."


 * When people remove a large amount of information and replace it with a complaint that we're even covering the topic, it's likely to get reverted, if only because the previous version of the article was at least giving people something useful, even if some of it was inaccurate.


 * We would be glad to see your documentation, as we would like to have a factual article based upon it. It seems that if any group wants a particular fact to stick around long-term, they're going to have to reference it. We would be even more glad if editors on both sides would would say who they are and why they feel they have authority to speak for the society.


 * I would note that this is the only site that mentions the terms "Bangor Wargaming and Role Playing Society" and "furry" in the same page - however, google only finds five pages in total on the full name, so that doesn't say all that much. The BWRPS forum also appears not to mention the word "furry" anywhere. --GreenReaper(talk) 10:25, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

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As requested, I'll gladly put my name to this. I am Richard East (BWRPS ID Hammerhydra). I have been a member of BWRPS for over 6 years, I have been on the BWRPS committee for 4 of them (including currently). I posted the original amendments to the article and the * marked passage here, although I am not responsible for subsequent adjustments and deletions. I live with the person who founded the Anime society several years ago. I am also a Fur. The founding of the anime society was recorded in the BWRPS publication, the Rolling Dragon, which is available from the society publicity officer.


 * Richard, thanks for the details, those were most helpful.
 * Given GreenReaper's observations and your comments, I'm starting to think that it might not make much sense to have this article on the Wiki. What do others think?  --Douglas Muth 16:23, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi. My name's Katherine Jones (BWRPS ID WeaselsWithMalletsRule) and I've been a BWRPs member for 6 years. I bow to Hammerhydra as I've only been on the committee for 3 of them. I have also attended anime screenings by the not-totally official SU society (and totally failed to notice any hostilities - but then again maybe I'm just unobservant). I count its founder Karen Dawson as one of my closer friends. As Richard says above - the Rolling Dragon will provide the references, but she founded the anime society 2001 when she first came to Bangor. I remember her slogging off down the hill with huge bags of A/V equipment on many occasions, and I'm sure she's spent plenty of money buying all the discs and tapes aired. I feel it's rather depressing that she's just getting editted out of history by some writer whose sole aim seems to be to prove the club is furry, and feel she should get some recognition. (No, she doesn't know I'm writing this). Incidentally, I have no particular positive or negative opinion of furries, but to label the club as furry is plain misleading. There are club members who are furry, but I know club members who are gay, and that does not make us part of the LGB, and a BWRPs friend of mine is vegan, but that won't stop me enjoying my cheese on toast. When the writer desperately deletes everything other people write regardless of factual accuracy in order that he can proclaim "furry", it reminds me of the old grandfather from the TV show 'Goodness Gracious Me'. You know - the one who wanders through the library grabbing each book off the shelves and proclaiming "Indian!" vehemently.

Deletion
Having reviewed the above, and had a short chat with another long-time member, I feel that this is not a topic which we should be covering. I am therefore deleting this article for insufficient relevance to furry fandom. If anyone wants a copy of a previous revision for their personal use, let me know. --GreenReaper(talk) 18:04, 4 December 2006 (UTC)