Talk:Kimberleigh Ann Keister/Archive

There are some pretty serious accusations in this article that have no evidence backing them up. Let me count the ways:


 * 1) The complaint of her copying Kylen's work.
 * 2) Her "attacks" on the Road Rovers community and Kylen
 * 3) Her claims that she was the victim.

If anyone can provide links that back up some of these things, then so much the better! It would be enough to satisfy my POV concerns. --Dmuth 05:21, 31 Dec 2005 (UTC)


 * I can attest to item two. Kim has uploaded 'attack work' against Kylen to the VCL back in 2001. And, just this week, Kim uploaded a photomanipulation to her LiveJournal showing Kylen's head on an unknown naked woman's body. On item three, I can attest, but evidence has been removed as kim has just been banned from LJ. --Ch'marr 08:01, 2 Jan 2006 (UTC)


 * I go with #3,... She was pulling an "I'm right, everybody else is wrong!!!!1!" routine on both the FurAffinity and "Artists_Beware" LJ's forums that was... extremely painful to read through >.< She's now banned from both because of her behavior. Spirou 08:33, 2 Jan 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes. I banned her myself after she created some faux-story of her being hacked. I checked her account, checked the logs, no IP had logged into her account except her own. I'm not sure why she fabricated the story, since it didn't further her purpose, but I had to remove her from the site.


 * The long history of evidence now and before supports the allegations - be it from the Road Rover's fandom, VCL, FA and various aspects of the LJ commnity.


 * On a side note, the IP that Giza banned was KAK/Kim's own IP. It looks like she was trying to "defend" herself on Wiki from the entry about her, but went about it the wrong way. KAK's style is to rush in and scream "I'LL SUE!". Preyfar


 * Might want to step in here and say you could also check out Kimmaugh.info Banrai

I have been painstakingly reconstructing kimmaugh.com from various sources. Feel free to slog through this: gonterman.kicks-ass.net/kak/www.kimmaugh.com/text/ (stupid spam filter isn't letting me link this)

Feel free to mirror it far and wide.


 * Perusing through the PoE forum of Wintermist Studios will uncover much more info, so pretty much everything now listed can be substantiated.


 * Can you provide us with URL(s) of the forums? I can't speak for the others, but personally am not too fond of searching through all of PoE. ;-)  Thanks.  --Dmuth 19:03, 6 February 2006 (UTC)


 * KAK forum: http://friends.portalofevil.com/sfs.php?si=3&fi=000019171 Most threads have a little info, and there are some summary threads throughout. As a former PoE lurker back in the day, I can attest that most of their "reporting" turns out accurate from their once-insatiable curiosity (as opposed to other website's slanderous positions). I'd say our Wiki article is a pretty good summary as is.

Kylen Miles
I had several conversations with Keister in 2001-2002 over ICQ. I can attest that she most definently was not above manipulating her friends to get her way. She also was very bad when it came to typing......almost as if she was only learning the English language. However, I should also point out something important, which is Kylen Miles. Kylen Miles was NOT a nice person. She was a manipulative queen-bee whose ego more than outsized her actual (though undeniable) talent.


 * Regarding Kylen Miles, if you can provide us with any links to Usenet, LJ, or other places that support this claim (coming from someone other than Kim, of course), feel free to provide them. There's always two sides to every story.  --Dmuth 18:58, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Links
Just a suggestion, it might be wise to include some more links to prove what you say here. For example, where you say "Kim herself has appeared in the PoE forum at least once to argue with the people criticizing her site", then you could link in an example of a post. I would say, the more you can do that the better. It might mean you can get rid of that NPOV banner -- sannse (talk) 09:27, 10 March 2006 (UTC)


 * As an amusing anicdote, I have a copy of a comment thread where I convinced Kim that I worked in the North Carolina department of Disney (which, of course, there isn't one), and she told me she had interned there for a year. ;0 Thought I don't think such information would benefit the accuracy of this thread, other than to show Kim's... uh... strange claims.Banrai

Repeated vandalism on this page
Looking at the history of the main page, there's vandalism from 71.116.85.0/24 and 71.116.86.0/24 going all the way back to Janurary. Since there's only one page being vandalized, we'd have less of a case of going to the ISP, assuming that it really is Kimberleigh who is doing the vandalism.

I think the best way to deal with this would be to block both of those class Cs for a year. Anyone have objections? --Dmuth 21:45, 7 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Sounds good to me, although another alternative to consider would be protecting it (and the talk page) to registered users only. --mwalimu 23:20, 7 May 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm more in favor of this option, I think.DuncanDaHusky(talk) 12:06, 8 May 2006 (UTC)


 * First, 72.244.170.35 was me. I didn't realized I was logged out. I was trying to see if maybe the page might be excerbating the vandalism. I can't really comment on the factual accuracy so I'll assume it's true. If I've modified it too far in the other direction, or if there are still factual errors, I welcome other editors to correct me. --Rat 01:42, 8 May 2006 (UTC)


 * How exactly is protecting the page to registered users only going to stop someone from one of those IPs from registering for an account and THEN vandalizing the page? If anything, it would make our work in tracking ongoing abuse more difficult, because then we'd have to ask one of the server admins what IP is behind that username.
 * I say block those Class Cs from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.  --Dmuth 13:19, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I say block those Class Cs from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.  --Dmuth 13:19, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Unsourced edits
Okay, regarding that last edit, it appears to be a completely unsourced accusation against the subject regarding some events that occurred to the editor. While it does have a citation at the end, I have a problem with someone just writing whatever they want and slapping that at the end. The fact that it's here on this site lends some authority to it, citation needed mark notwithstanding. The editor needs to come up with some foundation for the accusation or it should be removed. Simba B 20:36, 1 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Seconded. I'm all for relocating that text to this talk page until we get some sources. --Douglas Muth 20:39, 1 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Done Spirou 02:37, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Removed information

 * The following paragraph has been removed from the article pending confirmation of the occurrence. Do not remove until further notice.

"''In 2007, Kim's connection with Matt Daily led her to the Paw Paradise forums. Finding the focus of the group to be disgusting, Kim began to post anti-foot fetish propaganda, attacking several members personally. It was not long before Backlash, the administrator, banned her.

Not long after that, a truck was driven through Backlash's home residence. Later that night, Kim had rejoined Paw Paradise and was bragging that she had commited this act, and had killed Backlash. However, Backlash survived this ordeal, and there is currently no proof tying Kim to the crime. ''"

Livejournal Ban
I've removed the reference to the livejornal ban. Yes, her account was removed, but I'm pretty sure (actually, I have very good proof) that it wasn't Kylen Myles that requested the ban, but someone posing as her. -- Ch&#39;marr 18:35, 14 October 2007 (UTC)