Talk:Gizgiz archive

"Bye" journal was deleted by admins due to "harassment". (How does one harass a dead person?) But, he had two journals that said the same thing. Equivamptalk 18:31, 29 August 2011 (EDT)
 * Which "Bye"?, LJ? Got a PDF screenshot when can add to the article =/ - Spirou 19:06, 29 August 2011 (EDT)


 * The one on FurAffinity, used as a reference. It had ocer 800 comments. Equivamptalk 19:59, 29 August 2011 (EDT)


 * I stopped at 200, it was getting bad - Spirou 20:14, 29 August 2011 (EDT)


 * I could posts a screenshot of just last LJ words, as individuals are looking for any screenshot, long or short - Spirou 20:24, 29 August 2011 (EDT)


 * Why is there another goodbye LJ journal? - Spirou 20:52, 29 August 2011 (EDT)


 * There were also two FA Journals. The story is, he created a "placeholder journal" and created the new journal a few days later, and copy/pasted it to the other. Equivamptalk 21:02, 29 August 2011 (EDT)


 * I heard about this as well. A shame he died,even though i didn't know him,he is in my thoughts and prayers.Axelfox 22:16, 29 August 2011 (EDT)


 * To Equivamp: Oh, but that's time he could have gotten help, all that time preparing ... - Spirou 23:35, 29 August 2011 (EDT)


 * I know. But you can't help some people. Equivamptalk 08:26, 30 August 2011 (EDT)

EPIC!
It's a good thing I'm a Little, cause I nearly SHAT A BRICK when I saw this:

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_FA/CORPSE_HARASSMENT.gif

o_O

They've nuked like...half the posts in the existing suicide journal as of ~9:30 AM pacific time, all of mine, all of Equivamp's have now been nuked as well (before only one was nuked) and various other posts from others. What tipped the scales apparently was when I called out the person claiming to be his sister and started posting proof of his dog molesting shenanigans and questioned his "sister" about why she hadn't removed all the dog fucking artwork off his account yet. Hilarity then ensued! :D Onideus Mad Hatter 12:40, 1 September 2011 (EDT)
 * Yeah...I was suspended for "harassment"...all I said was he was selfish...and after that, I was only responding to messages showing up in my inbox...they also said I had been told not to leave comments on the journal...but I was not. I do think it's silly that I was banned for calling a dead person selfish, but the guy that told me (a living person!) to kill myself (and many other were saying similar things) got nothing...oh well. FurAffinity is not known for having admins that make the best administrative descisions...and it's quite amusing to receive death threats via Formspring... so I'll be back in a week I guess. Equivamptalk 14:27, 1 September 2011 (EDT)
 * I wish it told you which admin was doing it, it'd be pretty hilarious to find out who the doorknob is. I'm not sure which I find more hilarious, the fact that they're banning people for "harassing" a CORPSE, or the fact that they're more concerned about negative comments than they are about the DOG FUCKING pictures he's got plastered all over his gallery.  LOL  The other hilarious thing is that ~supposedly~ they were revamping the way admins/mods handle bans in order to ~avoid~ epic public clusterfucks of this nature...guess it's not workin so well!  :D Onideus Mad Hatter 15:42, 1 September 2011 (EDT)


 * Mmmm, forgot to mention, I've got the entire journal archived (in sections, it was too big to capture as a whole), which I'll put together and put up on my server later today. Onideus Mad Hatter 12:42, 1 September 2011 (EDT)

Wow
I've have never seen that much rage over a furry death before. especially how he decided to take his life considering what exactly happened considering all of the comments are hidden by the administration in that journal. --Tridragon 17:01, 1 September 2011 (EDT)
 * That always happens when someone leaves a "suicide note" on the internet...then follows through. Equivamptalk 17:03, 1 September 2011 (EDT)
 * Though it was not handled rather well considering the amount of rage that is going on. Though this is why i've been trying to find other alternatives besides FA considering how things are not going very well. --Tridragon 18:32, 1 September 2011 (EDT)

Holy Shit!
Look at Giz's FA page! Apparently, the mods banned *EVERYONE*!

I shit you not:
 * ADMIN ANNOUNCEMENT. DUE TO CONSTANT TROLLING AND HARASSMENT OF THIS ACCOUNT EVERYONE HAS LOST THEIR POSTING PRIVILEGES ON IT. I AM SORRY TO THOSE WHO WISH TO MOURN HIM BUT THAT INCLUDES YOU AS WELL AS IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO TRACK ALL COMMENTS FAST ENOUGH. FAILURE TO COMPLY WILL RESULT IN SUSPENSION.

o_O

--Onideus Mad Hatter 22:37, 1 September 2011 (EDT)


 * No, just banned to comment in this user's page again. Nothing earth shattering. Just to keep the Rah Rah Troll Trouble with one less toy to play with - Spirou 23:50, 1 September 2011 (EDT)


 * Ahhh, I see, just worded wrong. They seem to be doing that a lot here lately, like when they banned me for two weeks for "harassing a dead user" *epic face palm*  That could have been worded in ~so~ many better ways.  LOL


 * It seems weird though that they're not closing out the account...unless they just feel confident that the media won't jump on the story...if they do, well...it's not gonna be pretty. I'm working on a new article for ED to basically separate "feral furs" from actual furries, as they seem to basically be bestiality fetishists that are trying to disguise themselves as furries (and most of them not doing a very good job of it).  I suppose in effect you could be both, wanting to ~be~ an animal ~while~ you molest animals, hence the reason I think they need a separate classification.


 * In a lot of ways it's similar to how pedophiles try and infiltrate the adult baby community, posing as "caretakers" for TEEN babies, in order to get their grubby little pedo mitts on them. Works in their favor to a great extent in that many teen babies are from broken homes, so such a prospect is like...winning the lottery.  They'll jump at the chance for supposed "unconditional love".  Unfortunately once they're ensnared the pedo can do pretty much anything they want to them, blackmailing them with their own fetish to keep quiet about their molestation and rape.


 * One thing I've been curious about is that all over his account he makes references to a "mate" that he says isn't on FA...the creepy thing is, the way he describes what his mate looks like, and how he commissions art of them...well, if you look at his pictures of the stuffed animals he owns (the great big huge ones)...yeah...potential plushie fucker I'm bettin...which would be *REALLY* sad if he considered a stuffed animal to be his significant other in life. :(
 * --Onideus Mad Hatter 00:26, 2 September 2011 (EDT)


 * Onideus, this is not the talk page in which you should discuss the zoophilic implications of feral yiff. Please take it to the relevant talk page. Equivamptalk 08:41, 2 September 2011 (EDT)


 * Actually, given the likely potential mainstream media attention this user and his activities are likely to bring to the furry community in general, it's *VERY* relevant. We are in fact looking at a very likely and very potential "butterfly effect" which could have far sweeping implications and inflictions upon the furry community in general in the years to come, potentially even leading to more suicidal deaths because his own draws so much NEGATIVE attention to furries by reinforcing stereotypes, prejudice and blind assumptions about furries in general.  The more cases like this that "go public" the worse furries in general look in the public eye. --Onideus Mad Hatter 11:11, 2 September 2011 (EDT)
 * The worst that will happen is grumpy old men will write angry blogs about it years from now about how poorly they "respect" and "represent" furry fandom, and every furry someone doesn't like will be compared to "Gizgiz, that guy that ruined furry".. Equivamptalk 16:33, 2 September 2011 (EDT)


 * Best case scenario, yeah, but it doesn't always turn out that way. Stories like this have the POTENTIAL to snowball in the media...doesn't mean that they ~will~, just that they have the POTENTIAL to do so.  If you don't respect that potential then bad can easily go to worse in the potential event that it does snowball.  The point in cases like this is to try and MINIMIZE POTENTIAL damage to the community, the most obvious preventative measure in this case would be to dump his entire FA account and deny it ever even existed (unless it's the authorities asking).  --Onideus Mad Hatter 11:32, 3 September 2011 (EDT)


 * Compared to some of the things said (and discounting ones with logic attached to it "I. e. The FS#@#$#@, endangering the driver" parts), it was a no "duh" they had to close it down. Somebody (how I wish to know he figure it out) made the point that since this happened on the 29th, 427 new accounts were created to leave their bit of wisdom. It seems weird though that they're not closing out the account, I think they can't (software wise, somebody is not on the ball, imho). Close it+protected. We can even do it here =P - Spirou 00:51, 2 September 2011 (EDT)

The Shit Has Hit The Fan!
Um, now, just so everyone is aware, I am ~not~ the first one to post this link/reference (even though I knew about it since yesterday). I waited for someone ~else~ to openly post it and, now that it's been outed I don't have any qualms with reposting it:
 * http://zoophilestracker.com/index.php?page=userdetails&id=25563

I haven't actually looked at any of the content indepthly, so I'm not sure if it's stuff of ~him~, or just stuff he was sexually interested in...can't really tell the identities it looks like in most of the videos, so it could go either way. --Onideus Mad Hatter 01:20, 2 September 2011 (EDT)