User talk:Kadath

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Welcome to WikiFur! Thank you for registering an account. We here at WikiFur look forward to working with you. Let us know if you need any help not already provided. :-) --Douglas Muth 18:30, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

I've noticed in the articles you've created, you gave the character's ages. Are these the furry personas of real people? If so, we would like to request that you change the age references to give year of birth instead (since age becomes outdated over time). If they are fictional characters who "never age", then they can probably be left as is.

Thanks, and welcome to WikiFur! --mwalimu 18:42, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Might I join mwalimu in welcoming you to WikiFur. I did notice that you were uploading some images without copyright tags. In general this is frowned upon here at WikiFur. Might I suggest utilizing one of the many free image licenses available or, if you don't wish to license your work under a free license, to use the {{fursona}} license tag? -- JaeSharp 18:54, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Just to clarify - the reason license tags selected on upload from the dropdown box are useful is that it makes it easier for us to understand your intentions for how we may use the image in the future. For example, if you intend anyone to use the image anywhere you might use the GFDL or Creative Commons licenses. Conversely, if you only intended the image to be used to illustrate a particular article, you might use the "fursona" selection as JaeSharp mentioned, to indicate that it's just for use in combination with the article about a person or character.
Thanks for your uploads, and feel free to let us know if you have any questions not answered in the help. --GreenReaper(talk) 18:58, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Hmm, I don't know if this is how I'm supposed to reply, but I'll give it a shot ;p

This is fine for us - we watch recent changes like hawks. ;-) In general, you should probably click on a user's name, then go to their own discussion page and edit that to send a message - it will then appear for them.

Thank you for all the warm welcomes! :3 To answer some of the questions: yes, these are my own characters. That's a good idea to add their birthdates. I'll go do that now.

I wasn't sure what to do about the copyrights. How do I do the {fursona}} thing? Is there an FAQ page on it? Where do I put it when uploading an image?

There isn't (alas) a FAQ on licensing yet, but basically . . . when you upload a file there is a box that says "Licensing: None selected". Click that and select one that is appropriate to your intentions. :-) You can read more about the GFDL and Creative Commons licenses by just searching for them, while the fursona one is basically a way of you giving permission for that particular use on WikiFur, but not (say) for someone to take the image and use it elsewhere for their own purposes. You can always type your own explicit license in if you want.
If you wish to add a license to existing images, just click on the image to go to the image description page, and then edit that and add {{fursona}} (or whatever) on a line after the description. --GreenReaper(talk) 19:31, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
It looks like uploading a new version of the file does not change the description/licensing - you have to go onto the page for the image and change it yourself. I'll do that for the ones you just reuploaded. :-) --GreenReaper(talk) 19:49, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

GreenReaper,

Yes I tried reuploading all the pics and changing the liscense on them to 'fursona/character'. I also added { fursona}} (as you spelled it - I deleted one of the brackets so it won't show the copyright blurb on this discussion like it does in my page preview) to all the summaries, but neither of these things showed up. Was I supposed to type Kadath inside those brackets? :/

No, you did it as you should have done (just selecting it from the dropdown box will automatically add the fursona tag at the end - it's as if it typed it for you). If that had been the first time you uploaded the image, then it would have worked. However, since the image was already there, the image description page had been created, and so the description was just used as the "edit summary" for the image (detailing the changes in the new version of the image).
To actually edit an image's description (including licensing tags) after an image has been uploaded, you need to go to the image description page. You can get there by clicking on the image, or just by going to Image:Nameofthefile.jpg. You can make links to those files without showing the picture by putting a : before the Image: - so [[:Image:SafariSign.jpg]] becomes Image:SafariSign.jpg. If you click that link (or the picture itself) you will see the image description page, which shows all the uploads to that image and allows you to look at previous versions of the image. If you then click Edit on the resulting page, you will be editing that image's description.
If you want to type wiki markup in a page but just have it show as text, you can enclose it with like this: <nowiki>text to show</nowiki> - this is useful to know when discussing it. :-) --GreenReaper(talk) 20:00, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Okay, thanks! I figured out how to get to the image edit page, but I didn't know how to change liscenses from the edit page. Just images and descriptions.

Disambiguation[edit]

Got one more question for you. I have one last article to make, entitled "Ruby". However, there is already an article named that. I've seen Wikipedia have several articles of the same name, but with different descriptions. How can I make an article named "Ruby" when somebody's already done that on this wiki?

What you need to do is to convert that into a "disambiguation" page. You do this through the following steps:
  1. Go to the current page called Ruby, and click the move tab, then select a new name for the article - in this case, "Ruby (Jewel Vixens)" would be appropriate. Explain why you are making the move in the given summary box - to disambiguate it with another Ruby. (You shouldn't perform move by going to Ruby (Jewel Vixens) and copying and pasting text from the original, because it breaks the page history).
  2. Once the page has been moved, there will be a redirect from Ruby to Ruby (Jewel Vixens). You need to replace that with the disambiguation page. To get there, click on the "Ruby" link on the move success page, then click again on the link that appears at the top of the page to tell you you have been redirected ["(Redirected from Ruby)"]
  3. Edit the redirect page to make it look like the page at Skunk. You can edit Skunk to see what the wiki text looks like, and just copy it over and replace the appropriate lines. Don't forget the {{disambig}} template at the end.
  4. Once you've done that, you should have a disambiguation page that links to the original page at Ruby (Jewel Vixens), and another at Ruby (something else) - where that something else is an appropriate qualification that distinguishes your character; perhaps your own name, or the name of a world they are situated in. Click this second link, and put in whatever you want about your own character, and you're done.
Hope this helps! --GreenReaper(talk) 20:24, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes, thank you so much!! :3

No problem! One more thing - it's not necessary to type in {{fursona}} to the end of the description for new images - selecting it in the license box handles that, and adding it in the description just means you get two copies of the license template at the end. However, it is useful to add links in there (so you might do something like [[Ruby (red panda)|Ruby]] so that people know who it is). I've adjusted this on your latest upload.
Happy editing! --GreenReaper(talk) 21:13, 14 August 2006 (UTC)