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This is an archive page, covering technical/howto issues discussed on my user talk page. Please do not edit this page - if you wish to bring up a topic, copy the relevant portion into a new section on the current page. Thanks! --GreenReaper(talk) This is an archive page, covering technical/howto issues discussed on my user talk page from the foundation of WikiFur to 10 September 2005. Please do not edit this page - if you wish to bring up a topic, copy the relevant portion into a new section on the current page. Thanks! --GreenReaper(talk)



Hi. Thanks for the welcome. ^^; This seems to be a confusing topic in my mind as far as sorting, but what would "StarFox" groups like RPG's belong to? Certainly the one I know about so far does not use a MU*, but rather IRC and has it's own Wiki even. --Markus 09:48, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Hmm. Not sure myself. Maybe you should make a new category for roleplaying groups, and then categorize that category page to [[Category:Community]]. You make new categories just by doing [[Category:Whatever]] and then clicking on the link to edit it like any other page. --GreenReaper(talk) 14:03, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)


How does one create a redirect? Ie, to redirect "Camp Feral" to Feral? --Tafyrn(talk)

Just type #REDIRECT [[Feral]] on Camp Feral. --GreenReaper(talk) 03:49, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)


GreenReaper: thanks for your efforts in cleaning up newly created entries. I've learned a great deal from comparing my original entries to the improved versions! --Osfer

No problem! --GreenReaper(talk) 05:43, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)
Is there already a 'beginner's guide' page available? If not I'd be happy to start work on it. Berhaps it could be linked to from the main page? --Osfer
There's the help page, which is linked to on the side and on WikiFur Central. It also links to the guide on Meta. If you think you can improve the help page, go right ahead! --GreenReaper(talk) 05:48, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)
Have you considered instating a 'ranking' system to indicate users who have contributed a great deal? I'm not trolling for rewards, myself, but as a New Mediast I'm rather interested in how you'd prefer to navigate between the offering of a reward for contribution and preventing people from performing useless edits and contributions to gain a higher ranking. Ranking systems are fairly common in forums and seem to manage themselves, there. --Osfer
There are ways to measure people's contributions, if so desired. You can look at a user's contributions page, which is a link in the toolbox to the left when a user's page or talk page is selected. You can also see what other people have said on a person's user talk pages, or look at the user section of the statistics to get a rough idea of where they stand contribution-wise.
In the end, though, for the people we really want to attract, contribution is its own reward. That's not to say people can't be proud of their contributions, of course, but obsessing over it is probably unhealthy. :-) --GreenReaper(talk) 06:06, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)


I had just one question re this wiki: Are there any guidelines for creating furry articles not in English? Say, Chakat/ia or Chakat/ru or whatnot? I'm a member of Furrys Pro Interlingua, as well as a general-purpose language geekskunk, and I'm just curious. Almafeta 13:18, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)

The "best" way to do it would be to use something like, edit pages on there, and then use translation tags to link to them, as in Wikipedia. We do not have versions of WikiFur in other langauges at this time. If this is something you'd like to help coordinate (it will need at least one person to maintain each language), let me know what languages you'd like it set up for and I can get things set up with the Wikicities staff.
If you're not up to doing this at this time, as a temporary measure, what you suggest might work but only if you add a category to each plage, like [[Category:Spanish articles]], and maybe put a template in the main page to indicate that there is a translation for it (you could do one template that would work for the whole page. That way we can find them to move them later on! :-) --GreenReaper(talk) 13:38, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)
Something I recently found out: It's possible to have multiple languages on one project. For example, the main Wikicities page does this. You'd need to contact technical support to turn it on, but it'd allow for pages about the same topic to be written in multiple languages while being all on one server (and all part of one community), and while looking like 'normal' interlanguage links. 17:24, 22 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Special bar[edit]

Also, I've created a special bar for the front page here. Go ahead and add it if you think it's a good idea ^^; Almafeta 08:59, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Seems a perfectly reasonable use of space. Added! --GreenReaper(talk) 13:54, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)


Thanks for the welcome. :) I moved the logo at Markus's request since he was having trouble with the TOC not liking where it was. It was either a case of the logo staying where it was but being made an image, or moving it to where the <pre>'ed text wouldn't damage the layout. -Nidonocu 14:14, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Aha! I have a third option - move the TOC to the section below. You can use __TOC__ to specify TOC positioning (or __NOTOC__ to remove it entirely, but we need it here :-). Will see if I can figure out a good way to do that. --GreenReaper(talk) 14:34, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)
Mmm.. true the TOC can be moved but if the logo is really wanted at the top and understandibly it is the convention to have it there, pahapse taking a screencap of the wording and having a nice logo image would be better? I'll provide the image if you wish though of course, I can't edit the article currently. While I'm here, would it be ok for me to mention a few things we are missing? Um.. for one.. a deletion policy! o.O I've seen a few articles that seem to have little to do with anything furry (Zline for example). We could also do with setting up our own Manual of Style for how a biography page, a species page or term page should be laid out for example. I have er.. a -little- exprience with MediaWiki you could say. ;) I spent a good few weeks teaching myself the system and actually have a wiki of my own I'm just.. lacking the community to get it going currently. x.x Despite e-mail pokes to the people who have signed up to it. EpicWiki which is a fictional writing wiki, as you can see I spent ages making it look good and now.. no support. :/ And my first wiki here which was my test and learning how to use it. It was going to be for a friend's project but that's on hiatus now. What I'm proud of though on that wiki is the extensive help system I was planning after hating the mine field that is MetaWiki's. You can see from the pages I did write that I might know.. a -little- wiki syntax. ;) [1] [2] *squeeks* Oh seems you've already fixed it so.. never mind. o.O Hope you take some of my thoughts onboard though. o.o -Nidonocu - talk Nidonocu 14:59, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Linking to a term in Wikipedia, but not in Wikifur[edit]

May I ask how one would make a link reference to a term that, while not defined in Wikifur, and not directly furry related, is defined in Wikipedia? --Seamora(talk)

Certainly. You can refer to Wikipedia like this: [[Wikipedia:Article name|text to display]]. This is often preferable to creating an actual page about it. --GreenReaper(talk) 20:42, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)

New article[edit]

Pardon me if this is a really dumb question, but how does one get to the initial edit screen to create a new article if there is no existing "Article to add" link to start from?

Not a dumb question at all - it's not hugely obvious. One way is to create such a link by putting [[Something]] into an existing article - such a related article. This is usually a good idea because it encourages pages to be linked to related pages. However, if there isn't any page for which this is appropriate, you should either put this link in the Sandbox and delete it later, or type the URL in manually. If you look at the URL for this page, you should see that it includes the name of the page - you can change the URL to any name and it will go to that page, even if it doesn't exist yet. You can then click edit and start typing! --GreenReaper(talk) 14:17, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

How do I add an article to a category?[edit]

Hi I wish to add an article to a category but the edit feature only allows me to edit the top portion of the page. I tried * name of category and that places link in wrong place. I tried [[category:whatever]] and that puts link at bottom of page and not as article. Please I looked all over the help section and found nothing usefull for this problem. --Lupinelonewolf

(answered) --GreenReaper(talk) 21:09, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)

OK I tried that but it puts link in incorrect place[edit]

I understand what you are saying but I am having difficulty trying to place that link into the section labled "articles" in this Category, rather the link is being placed above in a non related portion of the page

I am trying to place a linkie to Anthrofest which is a con in Canada next yr in August and is not listed yet under conventions. Furry Wiki has good exposure and the hope is that people take notice of the unfamiliar name to many and attend. Every time though that I try to post it it puts the link in the wrong place. I want to put the link Under A and right after Anthrocon in the A category on the conventions page.

So I went to the edit section of that page and I guess that portion of the page is protected or something because I cannot get my link to go where I want it. As for the whole "whatever issue I was following advice I found in greenreapers usertalk and somehow a "furfright" ended up in the F like it should have and thus I was trying to repeat that. I think now I realize that what happened was someone saw what I was doing and I did it incorrectly and so they obliged me and did it themself. I appologize for that but still am confused as to add to that "article" portion of the "conventions" page.

Ahh, I see. The thing you have to understand is that you do not edit the category page to put an article into the category - you edit the page that you want to put into the category. In this case, you would edit the Anthrofest article . . . but that article doesn't exist, so you should click that red link to create it. Try just putting a few words and then [[Category:Conventions]] at the end. You should see a link to Category:Conventions appear at the bottom, and when you save that page, it will appear in Category:Conventions, as you intended. --GreenReaper(talk) 21:58, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Subpages for Project/Wikifur Namespace[edit]

Heya, I'm close to finishing my work with the templates. :) However, I wanted to make the one page I have now (Wikifur:Boiler Plate Text) become an introduction page (similar to this one on Wikipedia) and have multiple pages for different template types as Subpages. However, it seems this feature isn't set to allow them in the Project(Wikifur) namespace. Would it be possible for you to turn them on? I don't know how it works with Wikicities but on standalone wiki's, its a setting in LocalSettings.php. Many thanks. :) -Nidonocu - talk Nidonocu 14:59, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I'm not sure what the problem is - I was able to make Wikifur:Boiler Plate Text/Test just fine (deleted it now). Am I misunderstanding what you were trying to do? If so, please tell me exactly what pages you were trying to make/edit and what error message you got. --GreenReaper(talk) 17:26, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)
According to Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Subpages, making a link of [[/All Templates]] on the page you wish to have as the parent should save to be 'parent/All Templates'. However, its actually just gone and made /All_Templates. If it was a true subpage, it should have a little breadcrumb link auto inserted, like on this page of my wiki here:
-Nidonocu - talk Nidonocu 18:40, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)
Ahh, right, so it's this - OK, I'll ask. --GreenReaper(talk) 18:59, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)
Thanks --Nidonocu - talk Nidonocu 19:05, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)
Should be done. --GreenReaper(talk) 19:16, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)
Yeap! All good! Many thanks! :D --Nidonocu - talk Nidonocu 19:18, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Categoreis and subcategories[edit]

Thank you for the friendly welcome message. The help system seems fairly complete. I find it much more useful to click the "edit" section of more complete entries and just look at the code to figure things out, but I know that doesn't work for some people. I do have a question that may be in there somewhere and I missed it. How are categories and subcategories created? It seems to me that one of the sub-categories within People ought to be "publishers." Otherwise, this seems fun and to be growing nicely. -- Gene

Categories are created like any page, by making links to them or going to their pages. However, to get the links in the right place, you place the special tag [[Category:YourCategoryName]] into the article that you want to be in the new category (or [[Category:YourCategoryName|Optional String To Sort By]] if you don't want it sorted in the list by the article name). This will create a link at the bottom. If it's red, then you can create the category page by clicking it, editing and saving the resulting page - your article page will then be present on there. If the link is blue, then it already existed, and your article page will be added to it. --GreenReaper(talk) 21:00, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Footnote Links[edit]

How would one create footnote links to lines in a given poem, if this is possible? --Seamora(talk)

Do you meen footnotes within the poem? If so, you might want to try using the ref and note templates, which I have just copied to WikiFur.

How would I make an image become an html link when clicked on?[edit]

Hi, I checked out the help here and at nidonocu's help page and I do not see info on how to make an image into an HTML link. Do you know how to do this?

I want the picture to go to a web site. --Lupinelonewolf

Hi there! I'm sorry, but we've had to disable externally-linked images due to people using them to link to offsite graphics that weren't theirs. As a side-effect, it is no longer possible to do what you want to do, because you have to link images in the external link style to make a html link out of them (even if they reside on this server).
You can see how it would have been done here. --GreenReaper(talk) 02:47, 21 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Authors versus Writers: Category confusion?[edit]

There's been at least one instance of someone mistakenly using [[Category:Authors]] instead of [[Category:Writers]]. Could we please have some kind of redirect for the Authors category? Sslaxx

Upon testing, the answer appears to be "no". It redirects the viewer, but doesn't redirect category entries. I've put a note on the discussion page for [[Category:Authors]] asking people not to create it. Hopefully the red link will dissuade people from using it . . . hopefully. Or we can just check now and again. :-) --GreenReaper(talk) 14:47, 24 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Furry Games Category[edit]

I was wondering: Shouldn't there also be a category for Furry Games as well? Granted, most of the games as adopted by the fandom aren't by-furries-for-furries, but they still count.. and games such as Inherit The Earth do count as being from within the fandom.

(judging from the Recent Changes listing, that was from Maus Merryjest. Maus, you can sign your Talk comment by clicking the squiggle button at the top of the editing text box, the second one from the right.) As for the question at hand, there is a category for games: [[Category:Games]]. If it's listed on WikiFur, I think it goes without saying it's a furry game :-) The category was only created in the last day or so, so you might have missed it. --Duncan da Husky 12:17, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)
Note that [[Category:Games]] has two subcategories, [[Category:Roleplaying games]] and [[Category:Video games]]. --Mwalimu 13:13, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)
Hi, Maus - welcome to WikiFur! As Duncan and Mwalimu say, there already exist categories for games - generally, if it's included on WikiFur, you can assume it has some level of furry content or interest. If there is a game you want to add that doesn't fit into those categories, you could either add it to Games or make your own subcategory (like Category:Board games) and add it to that. --GreenReaper(talk) 13:45, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Titles with lower cases[edit]

Let me see if I read it right. Wikifur entries ---must--- always start with an uppercase letter (I.e nothinkat->Nothinkat,) but, if an entry is known to start with an lower case letter (I.e. any of Usenets alt. groups,) I must enter the article with an upper case (I.e,) but inser the caveat paragraph "The title of this article is incorrect due to technical limitations. The correct title is" before the opening paragraph of the article. --Spirou 20:08, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Yes. The correct method is to use this template at the top: {{wrongtitle|title=the correct title}} and it will insert the correct text. --GreenReaper(talk) 20:40, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)


Please don't delete this. It may not have any redirects, but it is the help link in the "you're making a new page" text. :-) --GreenReaper(talk) 03:01, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Ok.. could you put a note on the talk page in case I forget or anyone else tries deleting it. o.O BTW, I've responded to your comments on WikiFur_talk:WikiFur_Central_Version_2#Comments with some queries, awaiting your reply. --Nidonocu - talk Nidonocu 03:07, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Recently popular pages[edit]

Is there a way to display the most popular pages using only the most recent data for a specified time period (such as the "show last" options on the My watchlist)? Mwalimu 23:47, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Alas, there seems not to be. --GreenReaper(talk) 01:09, 1 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Regarding recent link deletion in Sibe[edit]

Had a slight tussle over another attempt to remove the link to Sibe's criminal record earlier, I think everything I've replied with is correct policy. Conversation can be seen at User talk: and my talk page. --Nidonocu - talk Nidonocu 02:43, 6 Sep 2005 (UTC)

I agree. Considering the trouble they've apparently had tracking Sibe down, it's quite probable that the information that the user mentioned isn't current anyway. --GreenReaper(talk) 04:00, 6 Sep 2005 (UTC)
(more details available on the pages noted)

This is an archive page, covering technical/howto issues discussed on my user talk page from 11 September to 3 November 2005. Please do not edit this page - if you wish to bring up a topic, copy the relevant portion into a new section on the current page. Thanks! --GreenReaper(talk)

Recent Vandal[edit]

Looks like we hit that block at the same time, question though, which one applies as I blocked for 3 days you blocked for 30. o.O; --Nidonocu - talk Nidonocu 05:57, 10 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Probably both. Yours just expires first. :-) --GreenReaper(talk) 05:59, 10 Sep 2005 (UTC)
Second point actually, all their edits just disappeared from RC, how so? o.O --Nidonocu - talk Nidonocu 05:59, 10 Sep 2005 (UTC)
I clicked on their IP address to get contributions, added &bot=1 to the URL to make it look like I was a bot, then opened all the rollback links in new tabs. Hey presto, disappeared edits, and the reversions don't show up on recent changes unless you look specifically. Neat, no? :-) --GreenReaper(talk) 06:02, 10 Sep 2005 (UTC)
Nifty! :D --Nidonocu - talk Nidonocu 06:05, 10 Sep 2005 (UTC)

"New" items on front page...[edit]

...don't seem to be updating. Just a heads-up.


The items on the front page don't update automatically, they have to be updated manually by editors. This is done whenever people feel it is needed. --Nidonocu - talk Nidonocu 18:59, 13 Sep 2005 (UTC)
Yep. Instructions for updating them are at the community portal. --GreenReaper(talk) 20:03, 13 Sep 2005 (UTC)

User #213[edit]

I just wanted to comment on the fact that there is a slight problem with this user account in that its technically impossible to talk to them since # isn't a valid title for a page. Both [[User:#213]] and [[User talk:#213]] will fail to work. Is there any chance we can sort something about that? --Nidonocu - talk Nidonocu 14:38, 22 Sep 2005 (UTC)

I believe that is a feature intended to stop people seeing which users were affected by an IP block by just showing their internal ID number (unless there really is a user called #213, but I don't think there is). Since (I think?) only one user was banned, it's pretty easy to see who that was. --GreenReaper(talk) 15:54, 22 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Double Redirect Weirdness?[edit]

I'm not quite sure what to make of the double redirect for Kelsey Peters/Sparkling. To gauge by the warning, it looks like it would be a circular redirect, but it appears that the Kelsey Peters page redirect is correct. Ideas?--Duncan da Husky 12:22, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)

That is odd. I edited the redirect and it went away, so problem solved! ;-) --GreenReaper(talk) 13:35, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)


Seems the system doesn't wanna send me a new password, since I managed to get logged out somehow. Mind giving the thing a big kick in the nuts and having it send me my password? -- XialLunashine

There is an email address connected with the account, but it may have a typo in it. To confirm your identity, could you tell me what would it be? --GreenReaper(talk) 04:25, 30 Sep 2005 (UTC)
Actually, nevermind . . . since you own the domain, we've just sent it to another one that should work. Try now? --GreenReaper(talk) 04:34, 30 Sep 2005 (UTC)
It turned out that this was due to the Wikicities mail server being down. --GreenReaper(talk) 23:41, 30 Sep 2005 (UTC)
Still down, these mail servers? I just sent a password request again, and I'm currently tailing my procmail log to make sure I'm not hosing the thing with my filters. At this rate, I may as well just register another account. :B -- Xial, who did not get that email on 30 Sep 05.
Talked on IRC, hopefully it'll be sorted by the morning. --GreenReaper(talk) 04:37, 13 Oct 2005 (UTC)

A newbie question...[edit]

I just added a few country-specific categories to the Regional category page to make the finding of articles useful to one's country's furry community easier, as this gathers them all at one place. However, I'm not sure how well these fit under the Regional category - would it probably be better to make a new category, named Countries or perhaps National (to make it in the same 'league' as Regional)? I just thought I should ask for your views on this =) MKerris 01:37, 15 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Good question. I think ideally the things currently in Regional should be in their respective countries, and those countries should be in a category of their own - perhaps Category:Groups by location or Category:Groups by country or something similar? --GreenReaper(talk) 03:40, 15 Oct 2005 (UTC)
Groups by country sounds good to me - thanks for your help :) MKerris 13:11, 15 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Something wrong here?[edit]

It seems like there's something wrong with this page: Steve_Gallacci. I've tried viewing it in two different browsers (Opera 8.5 and IE 6.0), and they both show the framework to the top and left of the article as being much smaller somehow, which results in the text there being almost unreadable. I find it quite strange that it has (so far) only happened with that particular page... could you look into this? --MKerris 21:46, 16 Oct 2005 (UTC)

It seems the person-stub template didn't like being put at the end of the category list. I tend to put it before External links (as it's a natural place to contribute more to), so I'd not seen that before either. Odd, but easily solved. :-) --GreenReaper(talk) 21:58, 16 Oct 2005 (UTC)


Is my current IP locked down or something? I can't edit anything! --Siege 09:44, 3 Nov 2005 (UTC)

Well, here is a list of all blocked IP addresses (or at least, all IP addresses that have been blocked in the past). That's a good place to start, anyway, though you'll note most IP's that are blocked are for a pretty short term. --Duncan da Husky 13:09, 3 Nov 2005 (UTC)
Hm. Doesn't look like I'm in there. It may be a cacheing problem with my ISP. -- Siege 19:35, 3 Nov 2005 (UTC)

After recieving a few errors, this may have been a cacheing problem with Wikicities. It seems to be fixed now. -- Siege 00:09, 5 Nov 2005 (UTC) This is an archive page, covering technical/howto issues discussed on my user talk page from 4 November 2005 to 18 February 2006. Please do not edit this page - if you wish to bring up a topic, copy the relevant portion into a new section on the current page. Thanks! --GreenReaper(talk)


Hi Green! Seems I'm not able to add images on the character descs, why? Where do i go wrong? O.o Here's a try: File:Http:// bios/Scyra.jpg

See? ^^* There is something I can't get, sorry...

I'm not Green (well in my heart I am, but that's a different story), but you can't inline external images. Instead you can upload the file (see the "Upload file" function on the left) and then use the File:Filename function. - Unci 11:13, 9 Nov 2005 (UTC)
Like Unci said - you need to upload it, and then you can link it as on other pages. We had problems with externally-linked images almost immediately, so decided it was best to disable that feature. :-) --GreenReaper(talk) 15:04, 9 Nov 2005 (UTC)

Not a big deal, but... (namespace issues)[edit]

How come Wikifur still have 'Wikipedia' in all its page titles? Many other wikis here at Wikicities have its own name up there - perhaps Wikifur should too? ;) --MKerris 17:16, 10 Nov 2005 (UTC)

I'm really not sure what you're talking about - could you clarify? Here it says "WikiFur" in page titles (along the caption of the window), not Wikipedia. --GreenReaper(talk) 02:34, 11 Nov 2005 (UTC)
Heh... I probably should've tested it with another browser before bringing it up - it seems like there's only an issue with Opera. Although I have no idea why it happens, it's certainly not an err on your part... maybe I should inquire them (Opera's developers) about this. --MKerris 09:00, 11 Nov 2005 (UTC)
After having at the user preferences a little, I found out what it was that caused the issue - and it's not at all a problem with the browser... it's the 'Norsk (bokmål)' language setting! That seems to be the only one (or one of very few) that's got this particular quirk; perhaps Wikia is to be contacted instead? :) --MKerris 10:41, 11 Nov 2005 (UTC)
Yes, language settings do odd things. When I set it to German, "Community Central" is called "WikiFur-Portal", and the link to the livejournal is called "Aktuelle Ereignisse" (= Current events). I wonder whether this can be adjusted for all languages? Note also that WikiFur:Site support (also a link in the left menu) is empty, perhaps it could be filled with some information about how one can support the site. - Unci 12:24, 11 Nov 2005 (UTC)
The issue is that there are separate copies of the MediaWiki: namespace for each language. It is necessary to edit them for each language. The pages are accessible via Special:Allmessages. You can also edit them by adding the language code prefix to the subpage, e.g. MediaWiki:Currentevents/de.
Unci and MKerris, I have given you administrator access - could you try changing the german ones (and any other languages you know) where appropriate? The pages that have changed in the english version are here. --GreenReaper(talk) 20:00, 12 Nov 2005 (UTC)
Thanks a lot - I could try to improve a little on the Scandinavian versions at the least. --MKerris 01:41, 13 Nov 2005 (UTC)
Great! :-) --GreenReaper(talk) 02:25, 13 Nov 2005 (UTC)

OI OI OI! (custom signatures)[edit]

Thanks for the help, negro.
--Skunk 06:15, 26 Nov 2005 (UTC)
P.S. Can you do custom signatures like HR Wiki?

Actually, if you look through your user preferences... -- Siege 06:46, 26 Nov 2005 (UTC)
    • My signature is better than everyone elses! SKUNK LOVE! :D --Skunklogo.gif(U)(T)(C) 16:23, 29 Nov 2005 (UTC)

Front page problem[edit]

Someone seems to have messed with making a template fixed-width, and now Furry Central spreads itself one and a half screens wide at 1024x768 on IE 6. -- Siege 03:44, 28 Dec 2005 (UTC)

It doesn't seem to be doing that here - does it persist after a refresh? Could it be misreading the Pokemon World MUCK "picture"? --GreenReaper(talk) 17:13, 29 Dec 2005 (UTC)
That was it all along. There seems to be a persistent problem with those things in my browser. -- Siege 19:27, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Requiring Assistance[edit]

As you are the lead administrator of Wikifur, I feel you may e able to answer my question. While not Wikifur related, I think you still may be able to help me. I am the current leader of Wikisimpsons (the founder never edited} and I am trying to create the logo. But every time I upload the one I want or revert to the proper one, it remains as the default. Can you help me please?--M Johnson 09:36, 31 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Please ignore the above message. I've finally got it working.--M Johnson 10:10, 31 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Long-term security of WikiFur[edit]

Heya GreenReaper.

As an occasional contributor, I was just wondering about the long-term security for Wikifur. I notice that we are part of, and was just wondering if we have backups of our database so that if wikicities were to ever go under, the Wiki can continue to be hosted elsewhere.

The reason I bring this up is I've seen several communities die because the hosting site went under and no backups were available of the data.

I'm sure others will want to know what the situation is after reading my question as well. Enlighten us?

Thanks, and keep up the great work on this site.


WikiCities says that they do offsite backups, and Wikis themselves can be backed up with this script. The issue has been raised before, and I occasionally do backups onto my machine at home. --Dmuth 17:40, 8 Jan 2006 (UTC)
Well, technically they're not offsite, though it would only really be a problem if the colocation facility burned down. Fortunately, as Dmuth mentioned, the backups that Wikicities makes are available to everyone, and you are very welcome to download copies of them for any purpose that is within the bounds of the site copyright. I will make a note of this on WikiFur:About, as it is something that comes up now and again (usually whenever an experienced system administrator joins the site :-). --GreenReaper(talk) 18:49, 8 Jan 2006 (UTC)
Wow, that's pretty awesome. All it takes is a couple of backup-conscious admins to like Wikifur and we have lots of offsite backups. Pretty neat! --Zorin 19:12, 8 Jan 2006 (UTC)

Adding my name to the peoples' list[edit]

Well, the subject's pretty self-explanatory. Just wanted to add my name in the peoples' list just for the hell of it, but... doesn't look like i can do it right now. I did put my name in the "people to add" category, but. I even had content in the article about me.

Is this an issue that i have to wait for?


To add an article to the people category, you need to put [[Category:People]] into the article. As you've noticed, we place such articles in the main namespace rather than the User namespace, which tends to be used for personal messages to viewers (first-person, e.g. User:GreenReaper) rather than a descriptiton of the person and their activities (third-person, e.g. GreenReaper). I've moved the User:Kitetsu page to Kitetsu to preserve the page history and added appropriate tags linking the two - you can edit the two of them separately for their separate purposes. Hope this helps!
Also, are you this kitetsu, or do you have another website? You might want to add such sites as a link in an External links section - placing the {{contributor}} tag just below the header tends to work well. --GreenReaper(talk) 17:03, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Ahaha, oh dear, you must have mistaken me for someone else entirely. No, I go by the DA username of "wrexodus". Thank you very much for the reply anyhow. I'll be sure to put these tags into good use.

Peace. --Kitetsu(talk) This is an archive page, covering technical/howto issues discussed on my user talk page from 19 February to 5 April 2006. Please do not edit this page - if you wish to bring up a topic, copy the relevant portion into a new section on the current page. Thanks! --GreenReaper(talk)


Yea, I noticed. I had to go to the sand box to make a new red link. I did however just finish a new article. Chainroaker. Thanks for the greeting! I've lurked this wiki for quite some time and thought I might just as well get myself an account. :)


Actually, if you change the link at the top of the page to "", you're presented a blank page, and can click the appropriate links from there to create the new article. -- Siege 21:56, 19 February 2006 (UTC)


Shouldn't that be トランスフア?

Result of IRC discussion: Apparently not, as it is a Japanese word and not a foreign one (so is in hiragana and not katakana). --GreenReaper(talk) 07:39, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Hey Green[edit]

I noticed your note to me. I am still really green to this so to speak (heheh) can you let me know how to move it to person; people category? thanks, anjel

To put your page in the People category, you put [[Category:People]] at the bottom of it - have a look at other people's pages to see how it works. Also, to sign your name easily at the end of talk page edits, just put ~~~~ which will turn into your name and the date. Make sure you're logged in first! :-) --GreenReaper(talk) 03:56, 6 March 2006 (UTC)


Hi, thanks for commenting on my entry. I really have no idea what I'm doing... I thought I was making a general pedia entry, but guess not. How do I make an entry?

You're welcome! And don't worry, you're doing the right thing by trying things out. *grins*
You were editing on your user page - the bit where by convention you "talk" to people on a personal basis. This is usually used to talk about your wiki work and plans for the future, or whatever - but either way, it's from you (in the first person), not about you (in the third person). It's pretty much exactly the same in terms of editing, but the content is different by convention - compare User:GreenReaper and GreenReaper to see what I mean. It means that people can edit the pages about other people without feeling that they are editing personal words - because that is what the User: page is for.
You can turn it into a entry in the main namespace very easily - click the Move tab at the top while on User:Growly and select to move it to just Growly. Untick the checkbox offered for moving talk pages, otherwise it will copy this text as well (normally you want it to when moving pages, but not in this case).
To link the two pages, you can use the {{Contributor}} and (optionately) {{ContributorU}} tags. You can see the first one in use on the GreenReaper page above. Oh, and another tip - if you type ~~~~ then it will turn into a signature that you can use on Talk: pages, like this: --GreenReaper(talk) 01:13, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
To clarify: You'd put {{Contributor|Growly}} to get the right result. And let's pretend I didn't just make up the word "optionately" in the above sentence. ;-) --GreenReaper(talk) 01:21, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

"User" vs "normal" pages[edit]

I'm afraid I'm still too wiki-newb to understand the difference. What is supposed to go on a 'normal' vs. 'user' page, such as my own (Chibiabos vs. User:Chibiabos)? I've been doing my user page to talk about all my projects and characters and things, and the 'normal' (non-user) Chibiabos page to just talk about the Chibiabos character as it appeared in my MUSH I ran a few years back. --Chibiabos 21:17, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

I should probably have taken the opportunity to explain after my earlier edits. :-) Our current convention is to use the page in the main namespace for both the person and their character, if under the same name. This is partially due to the integration of many people's characters with their personality, but also because by convention a User: page is a personal message from a user (first-person), while the other page is about the person (third-person). Compare GreenReaper and User:GreenReaper. This distinction is considered more important than that between a player and their fursona. Moreover, most of the time people will be referring to people not their characters, and it gets annoying to remember to type User: all over the place - normal articles should link to other normal articles.
This policy makes a bit more sense on Wikipedia, where most users will not have pages about themselves because they are non-notable individuals (under their definition). However, it seems to work OK here, and it helps separate the personal message on the User page (which is controlled by you) from the description of yourself (which others should feel free to edit). Hope that clears things up for you! --GreenReaper(talk) 00:33, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
Another thing to note: An awful lot of people that we write about do not have accounts under their names, and so we might well write about someone and find that their account was owned by another (or that they'd used a different account name). Again, this relates to the difference between the idea of a person and the user that is editing the wiki that just happens to be that person as well. --GreenReaper(talk) 00:37, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

ASCII banner failing to show properly[edit]

GreenReaper wrote:

Umm, I'm using Firefox myself, and the ascii logos work fine here. What platform and version are you on? What do they look like for you? Do you have any ideas as to what might improve the rendering? --GreenReaper(talk) 02:04, 26 February 2006 (UTC)


Here is the sceen shot:

As you can see, there is a problem in characters alignement on my 1280x1024 screen (using Firefox v1.0.7), but this problem does not show on my laptop (1680x1050, same version of Firefox) where more room exists horizontally.

That screen looks to me as if your browser isn't rendering the ASCII title in a fixed-width font. -- Sine 21:17, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
It does !
How does it work on a more recent build of Firefox? --GreenReaper(talk) 00:03, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
This is not a build issue, as it shows fine with v1.0.7 on a larger screen... In any case, I can't test it with v1.5.0.1 as the latter won't work when compiled without anti-aliased font support (anti-aliased fonts are ugly and fuzzy in my opinion, not to mention they slow down things to a crawl on "old" computers, so I don't use them).
Well, all I can say is that it seems to be working fine for other people using current browsers. You could try using 1.5 but turning off antialiased fonts. The root of the problem appears to be that your system is failing to honour the size of the font and possibly other settings applied to it. That screenshot shows the font as far larger than it is here. It may work on your laptop with the wider screen, but that might just be because the extra width allows the error to go unnoticed. --GreenReaper(talk) 01:12, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

More Double Redirect Weirdness[edit]

OK, this one has me mystified. Take a look at Special:DoubleRedirects; I can't figure out what the deal is with the Big Tig article, and why it's showing up as a double redirect. Maybe there's some control characters in there that I'm missing?--Duncan da Husky 14:35, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

I re-typed the text and re-saved the page, and it seems to be okay now. Maybe it was a Unicode or cache issue? -- Siege 17:54, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
This sometimes happens when pages get moved around. As Siege found, it tends to clear up once you edit the page. --GreenReaper(talk) 18:00, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

GFDL links[edit]

I've noticed that the GFDL link image has been missing since the DNS change. Is that a problem with our links, or with Wikia? -- Siege 18:55, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

As far as I know, it's Wikia. It's been noted on their page for discussion of problems, just not fixed yet! --GreenReaper(talk) 09:27, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

This is an archive page, covering technical/howto issues discussed on my user talk page from 6 April to 22 July 2006. Please do not edit this page - if you wish to bring up a topic, copy the relevant portion into a new section on the current page. Thanks! --GreenReaper(talk)

View counts[edit]

I've noticed that the view counts in Special:Popularpages have not updated at least since last Thursday on several articles I've been following, even though I've viewed some of those articles myself during that time. I've verified this from two different computers and used a couple of other tricks to make reasonably certain it's not a browser cache issue. What gives?

Edit: There are also several hundred articles that currently show 0 views. --mwalimu 14:23, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Yes. I had a chat with the admins and apparently they had to discontinue popular pages updating due to server loads. We can get the same sort of information from the google analytics stats, so it's no great loss, although it is a pity that people can't access that without talking to me first.
As this makes the page rather useless, I've removed the link in the main page header and added in links to the article and user talk pages instead. --GreenReaper(talk) 16:29, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Edit patrols[edit]

It's about this time that I think bringing back the "patrol this edit" marker may be a good idea. It just has to be explained clearly: "These markers are for admin to make rounds of patrols through the various edits," and so forth. I'd also like to suggest a proxy banlist which is shared across Wikia. That way, once a proxy is confirmed, all wikis have the option of automatically banning it. -- Siege(talk) 06:24, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

I would support the creation of a shared proxy banlist with all of Wikia. Is there a feature for this currently in mediawiki or would it have to be added through some sort of module? -- DeVandalizer 06:33, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
This might be a good idea. We are getting a lot of edits - certainly more than I manage to have the time to look at, let alone edit. We can probably try enabling it for a time.
I think there is actually a proxy blacklist. We may be using a service, in which case it probably doesn't get everything. JasonR on the live chat would be the perosn to talk to about that (or he's available via technical at wikia dot com, or the wikia-l mailing list, or the wikia LiveJournal). --GreenReaper(talk) 08:12, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Howloween Template[edit]

Are there any plans to create a Howloween convention template? Howloween is a convention held in British Columbia, during Late October : Howloween 2006 Website

If you want one, just copy the contents of any existing convention templates to Template:User Howloween and change accordingly, then create the appropriate category and make it a subcategory of Category:Wikifurries. --GreenReaper(talk) 00:36, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
Thank you so much. I shall try that. ^_^ --Seamora(talk)

Terms with Multiple Definitions[edit]

What is commonly done with terms that have more than one definition? Do they have separate pages, and if so , how does one do this?--Seamora(talk)

Short answer - it depends! Long answer follows . . .
If the terms are related, but with differing nuances, then you might discuss them on the same page. For example, yiff has many meanings, but they are all related to a reasonably close degree, so they are all described on the same page. In general, you can tell "reasonably close" by the categories - if separate meanings would all fall under the same category then you would probably discuss them together (except people, who always have different articles).
Some terms have numerous unrelated meanings. In this case we divide it into separate pages with a qualifier in lowercase [unless a proper name] and inside parenthesis, and then create what is called a disambiguation page for people who link to the term without parentheses. The page should have the {{disambig}} tag at the bottom. If another topic has the name within it, and a shorterned form might conflict, it is given the full title but also included in the disambiguation page.
You can see this at The Bestiary, which links to The Bestiary (playing cards) and The Bestiary (comic) (which we know exists, just hasn't yet been written about) but also to The Bestiary's Terrie Smith Does Art Special.
We may also make an indented, italic link at the top of the pages if there is possible confusion or the other article is somehow relevant, something like this (for a person called "Delight"):
":''This article is about the [[:Category:People|person]]. For the chocolate bar, see <nowiki>[[Delight (chocolate bar)]].'' (or: "There is also a [[Delight (chocolate)|chocolate bar called Delight]].")
In the case where one thing is clearly the more usual or "official" term, but there is another term that should have a different article, like skunk or Eurofurence, then the general term is used without parentheses and the other term(s) have parentheses or are otherwise made different. We use the above method to link between them.
In rare cases, it may also be appropriate to add a parentheses even if there is currently no article at the non-parentheses term. This is done where there might be confusion about what the article should be about. For example, Furre! has links to Persona Play (Furre!) and Roleplay (Furre!). This is because the term Roleplay has a special meaning in the context of Furre!, and so it should not link to the main role-playing article, which has a redirect from Roleplay. For consistency, Persona Play has the same qualifier, even though there is not likely to be another article called Persona Play as it is at term that is specific to Furcadia/Furre!.
Deciding what to do in a particular case is sometimes tricky, but it is usually simple once you have done it a few times. Hope the above helps! --GreenReaper(talk) 08:41, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Maned wolf page up![edit]

Heya, just wanted to let you know that I created a page about maned wolves since there wasn't one. It could use some editing, such as a contents box and the pictures off to the side. Thanks! --Inali

Well, it looks like you figured all that out! I moved it to Maned Wolf because it is a proper name of a species. The contents box will automatically appear if you have four headers in the article. If you do not (or to move it), you can make it appear by adding __TOC__ wherever you want. I sometimes put this inside a div tag that is set to float to the right. You can also hide it with __NOTOC__.
One question I have, though - do you have permission from the people who made those pictures to put them on this site? While I appreciate that you wish to improve the articles, it is not enough to just state who owns the copyright of an image - if you do not have explicit permission (either by having asked them or through a blanket license or copyright wavier), we cannot display the images. That's what copyright means, after all . . . the right to make copies. Both the Ark Gallery and Kenneth W. Fink/Root Resources sources appear to be non-free in this respect (indeed, the Ark Gallery seems to have a specific note at the bottom saying that images are not for reproduction elsewhere).
Oh, and one last thing - on talk pages, it's easier to know who's talking if you sign your name at the end. You can do this by typing ~~~~, or just ~~~ to do so without adding the date and time. --GreenReaper(talk) 03:13, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

I will email them and ask permission. If I can't get it from them, I'll ask some others until I get written permission. Where do I post that I have written permission when I get it? Thanks!

InaliKealoha 05:22, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

You should put the permission on the image information page, the one that comes up when you click on the image. You can edit it just like any other page. If you fail to gain permission for those images, let myself or another administrator know, and we will delete it from the WikiFur image store. --GreenReaper(talk) 14:04, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
I very strongly feel that we should delete the images; they can be uploaded again if permission is given. -- Sine 16:16, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
Then do so. --GreenReaper(talk) 19:08, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
Done. Thanks for the confirmation. -- Sine 23:24, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Edit buttons[edit]

How do you set up an edit button like Wikifur and the Creatures wiki have? I'm also a member at the Sporewiki and want to contribute a button like that for them —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Listeel (talkcontribs) .

Check out the MediaWiki:Monobook.css page, in particular the section starting:
/* Create more space to top and left of the section Edit links and put norn in it */
If you copy this and adjust it for your wiki (you will need to change the URL to match the URL of an image uploaded at your wiki or somewhere else) then it should work. --GreenReaper(talk) 20:14, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Infobox question[edit]

I've been trying to make an Infobox for A Fox in the Works page with little luck, something like what Wikipedia has for TV series (ie Wikipedia:Babylon_5. I'm really don't know what I'm doing, and it's something that would probably work better as a template so it can be used for comics and other furry story series.

I can't find any help on making an infobox like this, and what I try to do comes up more then a bit fragged. Any help would be greatly appreciated. --Fox Cutter 05:13, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Probably the best place to start is Wikipedia's sample infobox template, which is relatively simple as they go. The one you mentioned, Template:Infobox Television is indeed hideously complex, in part because it relies on expressions (which are not yet available at Wikia, so it will give hideously mangled results).
Start simple. Just copy the template to a blank Template: page here (perhaps Template:Infobox!), and then try it out on a page. Try modifying various things, trying it out in the preview. Have a look at Wikipedia's template help. It is not, unfortunately, very clear, but it starts off with some useful information. Our templates section has various ones that definitely work here, which you could copy from as well. If you get stuck, ask for help on a discussion page, saying what you want it to do, and someone will probably lend a hand (and if not, prod me :-). --GreenReaper(talk) 06:00, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Recent Changes Error?[edit]

Recent changes has the following line in it: "Below are the last 50 changes in the last 7 days, as of $3." I don't think the $3 is intentional, is it? Spaz Kitty

No, you're right - there's been something up with recent changes since the most recent upgrade. There's a bug filed for it on Wikia, it's just rather low-priority right now, especially since it's probably something that will have to be fixed in the main MediaWiki source code tree anyway. --GreenReaper(talk) 05:28, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Minor Bug on Recent Changes page[edit]

Howdy! I just noticed a small bug on the Recent Changes page. At the top of the page (at least according my my preferences), it reads:

Below are the last 200 changes in the last 7 days, as of $3.

I'm thinking that that "$3" is a variable that isn't being called correctly. It's obviously a minor thing, but something I thought might be a quick fix if you've got the permissions.----DuncanDaHusky(talk) 16:11, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Yeah. It's been like that since we upgraded to 1.7 alpha. It's a known bug, but it was low priority for the Wikia guys. I'll have a chat with them and see if it's a quick fix. If not, it can be removed by editing MediaWiki:Rcnote. --GreenReaper(talk) 16:27, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

*Waves.* (creating articles)[edit]

Thanks for leaving me a note. I've meant to put the link to the Eurofurence LJ instead of the website, I guess I was distracted when I added "Eurofurence" to the list. :B Sorry.

No problem!

I tried to reply to you using the "send mail" option, but apparently I have to get a confirmation code, and while I tried a couples of times, it never seems to reach me. It's not in my "spam" box either, so I was wondering if something was broken on Wikifur's side, or what should I do.

Not sure about that. It should come from, if that helps.
Okay, I made a research in my mailbox AND spambox, and I've never received any e-mail from this addy. I don't know what's wrong, it just doesn't seem to send me anything when I ask for a confirmation code.

Also, and this may sound like a very stupid question, but.. I was wondering how to create articles here? I've only found help to edit existing articles; reading the artists pages I noticed some less-well known artists as well, as if they or someone had created a page about them, but I'm not sure the admins themselves did, and I can't find how to start a page from scratch in the help pages. Is it a privilege-thing or did I miss the option or an help page somewhere? Is it related to the fact I haven't entered any confirmation code yet (see first issue in paragraph above)?

There are several ways that (I think they're on Help:Editing) - try to go to a page with the search box and click the red link when you don't find it, make a link in an existing page (or in a preview) and click on it, or just change the URL to the appropriate one and click edit this page. It is something anyone can do (even anonymous users) and is not related to email confirmation. --GreenReaper(talk) 17:12, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
Ooh okay, thanks for our help! by the way, do you see my signature when I reply (as in, my username and link to "talk" and such) or do I have to add it manually?
No, you need to add it with ~~~~ (or ~~~ to just add the name). --GreenReaper(talk) 16:21, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Code error, etc.[edit]

Couple of things...One, on both the WikiFur homepage and your talk page, <div style="clear:both"/> appears. Two, Talk:SCHLITZER is a leftover from the Crabs crabs crabs! x 50 vandal that previously redirected to my talk page - not sure if you saw that all the way back in recent changes (I've been boredly busy today XD). Spaz Kitty 02:47, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

I've had a chat with the Wikia admins and this is a temporary error in the MediaWiki version that they are testing. I've replaced it with the equivalent (but working) <div style"clear:both"></div> in those two places. If there are other pages affected, they should be fixed after the testing concludes. It looks like Sine got the other problem. --GreenReaper(talk) 03:38, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Google Analytics Stats[edit]

Any chance you could sign me up to access wikifur's stats on google analytics? -- DeVandalizer 00:00, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Sure, if you tell me your GMail or Google Account address, either here or privately. --GreenReaper(talk) 00:02, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
No problem, my gmail account is -- DeVandalizer 00:06, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
Done. You may access the statistics here. --GreenReaper(talk) 00:10, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
I am in. Thank you. -- DeVandalizer 00:14, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

High resolution version of wikifur pawprint[edit]

Is there a high resolution version of the wikifur pawprint (used in the wikifur logo in the upper left corner of all wiki pages) available? If so could you point me to the location of the file? -- DeVandalizer 16:02, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Is this sufficient? I have the vector art as well, if needed (.ai format). --GreenReaper(talk) 16:16, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Yes that's excellent. Thank you -- DeVandalizer 17:55, 12 July 2006 (UTC)


That's a Red Panda, not a Raccoon. Is there a way of renaming / moving an image, or is it a matter of re-uploading? -- Sine 03:08, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Oh, whoops. Firefox! I've fixed it, thanks. Alas, a reupload is necessary in such cases. --GreenReaper(talk) 03:19, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

This is an archive page, covering technical/howto issues discussed on my user talk page from 22 July 2006 to 9 June 2007. Please do not edit this page - if you wish to bring up a topic, copy the relevant portion into a new section on the current page. Thanks! --GreenReaper(talk)


Ok, so i guess the question is, why is there a norn running around on the furry edit link ... it seems to hide if I try to interact directly. Do you have more info? -- Amar Shadowpaws 14:25, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

I think his name is Hebe. He followed me over from the Creatures Wiki. I've not had the time to catch him and release him back into the wild yet. Besides, he likes to help out - he's done a good job at finishing off the stubs people leave around. --GreenReaper(talk) 18:04, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

infoboxes ?[edit]

I copied Wikipedia:Template:Infobox Webcomic to Template:Infobox webcomic because I thought having webcomic infoboxes (such as the one at Wikipedia:Aozora) would be nice. The template partially works (example at User:EarthFurst). I'm guessing the rest of that template doesn't work because WikiFur doesn't have Template:If ? WP has Wikipedia:Template:If. --EarthFurst 05:22, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

According to Splarka, it's due to a problem with tables and parserfunctions on Wikia. He going to try fixing it . . . --GreenReaper(talk) 05:34, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Hmm, the infobox was working beautifully at TwoKinds, but doesn't seem to be working now. I've posted question to wikia's Help desk on the matter . I'm reverting TwoKinds until the error is resolved. I'll be re-checking User:EarthFurst to see when the infox starts working again. --EarthFurst 05:03, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Recategorization of List of convention acronyms[edit]

I don't see why this fits better with Category:Convention terms than Category:Conventions when it seems to fit the Conventions cat just as well as List of furs who were married at a furry con or List of conventions by attendance (both of which are in Category:Conventions), since like those two, its a sort of comparison/reference list between different conventions, as opposed to Category:Convention terms which seems to be a list of general terms used within a convention. --Chibiabos 21:12, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

OK. Change it back if you wish. My view was that an acronym was a convention term, but I can can see your side too. --GreenReaper(talk) 23:59, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Hey hey[edit]

Well I had some problems with creating the article of our new Polish Furries forum and website, but I'm good now.

Say would t be a problem for you to place an info about Polska Strefa Furry on the main page? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by TerrisRacoon (talkcontribs) .

I will update our Did you know? section on the front page, and include a link to that page, as it is interesting to know about new forums.
Oh, and a couple of tips - you should not remove a message on a talk page after you have saved it - it should be left on the page so that the person can reply. Otherwise there is no record, and it looks as if there has been no message, which is confusing when the window pops up saying "you have new messages". :-) Also, you can sign your name on Talk: pages with this: ~~~~. It gives this sort of result: --GreenReaper(talk) 08:32, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Need help putting up an article[edit]

I want to put up an essay that's under the GNU Free Docement Lisence, and I want to ask for a little bit of tips on how to do it before I actually do it. Or even how I'm suppose to do it. --Foxpaws 00:52, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Could you be more specific about what you're trying to do? If you have a GFDL essay from another place, then in general it's fine to just copy it here into a new page as long as you give attribution for the people who wrote it (for example, with Wikipedia you would link to the history page) and preferably link back to the original source. Of course, it would have to fit the topic of the wiki, and be neutral in tone. If it was not neutral (whether or not you wrote it), you should probably avoid putting it in the main namespage - it should go a subpage of your User: space - e.g User:Foxpaws-zupe/Article name - and it should have a note up at the top similar to that of the personal-article template. --GreenReaper(talk) 04:22, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Hey! I'll be alright, I guess. I'll fix the entries up s'more later.

I should remember to tag that 'minor edit' box more often. *nods*

Thank you

Spam cleanup script[edit]

I have no idea if that was a valid spam cleanup script or if it was an elaborately created vandalism technique, but either way, it was blanking whole pages rather than just removing "spam" links (which weren't actually spam), so I blocked it temporarily. Feel free to unblock it if it isn't actually something trying to erase the whole Wiki. ;3 Spaz Kitty 02:42, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Furcadia origins?[edit]

I am not trying to be a pain in the rear here, but I wonder about the claim on the furcadia article that says that it has been around since 1996. I was following this stuff back in the late nineties and I was pretty surprised to hear that. Wolfhome was one of the first websites featuring multi-user chat and I don't remember being around. We were running a company by 2000. While I didn't do an exhaustive search, I am surprised that a furry chat site that would have been a direct competitor to Wolfhome escaped me. Wolfhome started on Gre7g Luterman's site,, back on October 31st, 1999.

The other thing that I discovered is that the whois record for was created in 1999 (see below). Add to that a web search on the "Wayback Machine", which tracks websites back to the mid nineties, which shows that in 1999, was a placeholder site:*/

Here's that whois record:


  767 Sam Bass Rd
  Round Rock, TX 78680-1048
  Domain Name: FURCADIA.COM
  Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
     767 Sam Bass Rd
     Round Rock, TX 78680-1048
     +358407672478 fax: +358427672478

  Record expires on 03-Feb-2011.
  Record created on 03-Feb-1999.
  Database last updated on 10-Oct-2006 21:10:34 EDT.
  Domain servers in listed order:

None of that is meant to take away from the current success of furcadia, but I wonder what supports the claim that they were running a website back in 1996?

Here's the web archive for*/

BTW, thanks for providing this great site focusing on the Furry community!


Hi there, underdog! The claim is that they were running Furcadia (the client-based MMO experience) since 1996, not (the website), and I think it is substantiated by this thread from May 1999 in which Dr. Cat states in passing that it "opened two and a half years ago". There is also this website ( from December 1998, at which point they appear to already have had 400,000 visits.
As for the website - you're welcome! I didn't exactly do it by myself, though - you can thank the people here, along with the hundreds of other editors for filling it with content. :-) --GreenReaper(talk) 02:48, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

I have readed that you use Openbsd to host the wiki[edit]

Hello Greenreaper, thanks for your work on this Furry Wiki, I am trying to install mediawiki on openbsd, but can not login on mediawiki, can you help me? after i have logged in sucessfully, then i try to use the preferences page and it say that i am not logged in

thanks in advance. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Aureliof (talkcontribs) .

I'm afraid I don't really have any idea why that is not working for you, other than that possibly you do not have sessions or cookies setup properly in your browser or web server. I do not administrate the server side of WikiFur, and so I know little of the details of hosting it. --GreenReaper(talk) 08:16, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

That was odd[edit]

I see that earlier today you blocked User: It struck me as odd that there have also been a couple of good edits from the very similar address User: (knowing that sometimes a vandal who gets blocked will simply switch to a different workstation, which often has a very similar IP; this time, however, that did not appear to be the case).

Then I tried to make a couple of edits, while logged in, and was told that I couldn't because my IP address,, has been blocked. I found this really odd, since I was logged in, I have admin privs, and on top of it all, the IP address of the machine I connect from doesn't look anything like that (and just to be sure, I checked with ). I retried a couple of times, and my edit finally took - not sure what changed, but there you go.

Then finally, I ran nslookup on, and it returned I tried and it returned Curioser and curioser. Is there something funky going on at that's causing incoming edits to look like they came from their server instead of the actual originating user or IP address? --mwalimu 18:57, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

It does indeed seem odd. I've also recieved two separate messages about this from other users. Unblocked this for now. --GreenReaper(talk) 19:26, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
I got a response from John Q. over on the Wikia mailing list saying that this is fixed/will be fixed shortly. --Douglas Muth 00:25, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
Hmm. Maybe not quite fixed yet, I had trouble getting that edit to go through... --Douglas Muth 00:29, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome ^^[edit]

Hey, thanks for the welcome to WikiFur. This is my first time actually registering for a Wiki community, so it'll be a learning experience, but I'm looking forward to adding what I can, when I can. Oh, question -- how do I reply to things on my Talk page? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by IanKeith (talkcontribs) .

Welcome to wiki, then, too. :-) You can reply to others in the way you did just now. You should generally sign your names when on talk pages, though, so that people know who left the message without going to the history. You can use ~~~~ for this, or just ~~~ if you don't want the date. --GreenReaper(talk) 02:54, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

timeline tag[edit]

Hi. I just solve timeline bug and you can use it again --Inez 10:10, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you, Inez! --GreenReaper(talk) 12:47, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

How to do bot vandal rollbacks[edit]

In cases of mass vandalism (page blanking and the like) it is acceptable to use the "bot" rollback method. To do this, go to the user's contribution page by clicking their name or IP address in the userlist, then add &bot=1 to the URL (or ?bot=1 if there is no ? already in the URL). Press enter to reload that URL, and then just open all the rollback links in new tabs. This will give the initial edit a "bot" flag, so that only your revert will be visible in recent changes. --GreenReaper(talk) 19:04, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I'll do it that way next time. By the way, when responding to a user talk comment like this, is there a way to have the thread automatically replicated in the other user's talk page? I've always done it by manually copying the response in both places. --mwalimu 19:09, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
Not that I know of. Would be nice! --GreenReaper(talk) 19:11, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

'twas fun playing with you furries. -- 19:23, 27 October 2006 (UTC) =)

Redirecting articles?[edit]

I was poking around in the Templates section to see how I could re-direct a link that currently goes nowhere to an article that is relevant. I wanted to link "Ace of Spades" and "Morrigan's War" to the "Empires" article but could not see a way to do it..? Thank you. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kette' Barona (talkcontribs) .

To do that, go to the pages Ace of Spades and Morrigan's War and put #REDIRECT [[Empires]] in there. --GreenReaper(talk) 02:22, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Wikifur page problem[edit]

Hey GreenReaper, I don't know if this is a problem caused by my computer, but recently the pages on wikifur seem a little out of pleace, all the user access links (contributions, watch list, etc.) are covered up by the page I'm looking at plust the page options (discussion, edit, etc.) are also covering up the pages name, the only thing I have done is update my internet explorer to 7.0, is this in fact a problem with my computer or is it something that is wrong with wikifur, please let me know, thanks - RVDDP2501 14:24, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

This appears to be a problem with Wikia - they have changed the CSS in a way that is incompatible with IE7. I've sent them a little note about this, hopefully it will be fixed within a day or so. :-) --GreenReaper(talk) 21:16, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, let me know when this has been fixed cause I reverted back to the previous version of IE since the problem was starting to annoy me :-) - RVDDP2501 21:30, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

My Wikifur page[edit]

Hey, thanks for the help, I'm kinda new to this stuff ^.^

Little question tho, my page is also in the 'hybrid' catagory... Shouldn't be, since I'm 100% pure fox. How can I change that? Darkfoxx 14:22, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

I took care of that for you Simba B 15:32, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
Thanks, Simba. Darkfoxx: The categories an article is in are defined by the [[Category:]] tags, usually at the bottom of the page. Remove them, and it removes an article from the category. --GreenReaper(talk) 15:43, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

WikiFur Central/Header[edit]

It appears that since your latest edits to Template:WikiFur Central/Header, it is now covering up the Template:Newsbar, at least when I view it under Firefox. --mwalimu 00:23, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Eh, never mind. Looks like you fixed it. --mwalimu 00:25, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
Interested users should see Talk:WikiFur Furry Central#Featured article length for more details. --GreenReaper(talk) 17:28, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Reversed clock time?[edit]

Note the edit history for High Tail Hall, specifically, my recent minor revisions. WTF. The "on second thought" revision should have been applied after the correction of possessive form. Repeating the edit seems to have been effective, but I'd rather not see that kind of glitch happening to anyone else. -- Siege(talk) 10:08, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

This is due to de-synched clocks on the various Wikia servers... if you look at the actual revision numbers, you'll see that 105229 is listed as occuring after 105230. This should only affect diff viewing and histories (but can be spotted by looking at the numbers). We are attempting to find the reason for the time desynchings, but this happens every once in a while. I've asked the techies to see if there is an easy way to fix these (it should be a simple as swapping the timestamps of any revisions that are not chronologically sequential, maybe). --Splarka (talk) 10:34, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome[edit]

Hey, GreenReaper. Thanks for welcoming me. As for your offer to help, I was wondering if you could give me an idea about what might get my fursona's article to lose its cleanup tag. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by XerxesQ (talkcontribs) .

Sure. Often, the user who put that tag on will have left a comment in the history. If it is not clear enough, or if there is no comment there, then you can ask them directly on their talk page. Making sure that an article sounds like an encyclopedia (e.g. avoids the use of an overly-informal tone) is generally a good idea, and the intent of many of the cleanup tags that are put on (we really need a few more specific tags than just cleanup). Of course, you don't have to agree with all of what they think is wrong about the article, and you can take the cleanup tag off once you think it's fine. They might then choose to do nothing, or edit it themselves, or give a more specific discussion on the talk page associated with the article. --GreenReaper(talk) 21:32, 13 January 2007 (UTC)


Just wondering - how do you control the appearance of the links on the left side of the screen, in particular the search box?

I'm asking not on account of anything to do with WikiFur, but because of a different wiki where I've started doing some edits. On that wiki there is only a search button, and below that you can select to search that wiki, or a Google web search. I would like to suggest to the admins of that wiki that they consider changing it to the Go and Search buttons like we have here on WikiFur. --mwalimu 22:30, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm afraid the answer here is "I don't know". The search box was, I think, tweaked somewhat by Wikia. I would suggest asking some of their techs would be a reasonable next step. --GreenReaper(talk) 07:30, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Comics Template[edit]

Hey, Reaper sir. I have a proposition.

I don't know a great deal on the workings of WikiFur, but I am familiar with Wikipedia, and there's one thing I havn't seen here: templates. On Wikipedia, I think in particular of albums, they have -- ah, heck, I'm sure you know what I mean.

Infobox! That's the name.

Anyways... My point is that, and correct me if I'm wrong, they don't seem to exist here on wikifur, and assuming there isn't some technical reason for not having them, I think this place can greatly benefit from them. In particular, I'd like to see an infobox for all the comics we have, so that we can give them all a nice, unified look. It would make things look more professional, and it would help organize all the information easier.

I... think that wound up as more of a ramble than anything else, but yes, that's my idea.

Immelmann 02:27, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

*sigh* Wanna know how awesome I am? Apparently there IS such a thing on wikifur. It's just that no one uses them.

Maybe I should propose a project or something to add the to all the comic pages... Immelmann 03:07, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Oh, we do use them,... We are starting to incorporate them to the appropriate entries, but it's a slow process. Your idea of additional infoboxes is quite fine, the problem is time, coding and incorporation (See: Forum:Infoboxes.) Spirou 03:24, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
There are, as has been mentioned, quite a few templates. If you're interested in helping to add them, and think it would add value to the project, go right ahead! We could use the help. :-) --GreenReaper(talk) 03:36, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Archiving talk pages[edit]

How do I archive an over-full Talk page so that it has a "Talk archives" box like this page? Mitch 20:53, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Have a look at User talk:GreenReaper/Header. You can copy the top to make your own - I use {{User talk:GreenReaper/Header}} to include it. --GreenReaper(talk) 20:59, 19 February 2007 (UTC)


Thanks for the welcome. There was one question I had, how to send messages; but as you can see I found it out for myself. ^_^ —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nido (talkcontribs) .

Hehe, indeed! It's usually a good idea to sign messages on talk pages, too, so other people reading don't have to go back into the history to see who said what - you can do this by putting ~~~~ at the end (or just ~~~ for your name) - like this: --GreenReaper(talk) 05:50, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

WikiFur News linkage[edit]

Hi GR!

I just wanted to point something out to you as I'm not sure if it's supposed to work this way or not.

I've noticed that the ConFuzzled article has this at the bottom:

However, the link one would expect to lead to the News article about ConFuzzled actually links back to the ConFuzzled article via Special:Search/ConFuzzled

This also happens with the Ursa Major Awards.

I'm not sure how to, or if I even can, rectify this myself so I was wondering if you could point me in the right direction or help out. :) --Graafen Blackpaw(talk) - 21st March 2007 - 17:47 (UTC)

Good call! This should be fixed now. Thanks for pointing it out. --GreenReaper(talk) 17:50, 21 March 2007 (UTC)


Hiya, I'm having some trouble with the Googlemaps feature (see Help talk:Googlemaps). Is this something you have any control over or could help me out in any way? BTW Thanks for the heads-up on the Category preview. -- Dingotush 21:26, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

It worked fine for me on News:Anthrocon selects Animal Friends as 2007 charity. However, there were some oddities when I poked at it in the sandbox. I purged the page and it showed up. Temporary issue? --GreenReaper(talk) 21:41, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
I'm still having trouble with it in the sandbox, but it does appear on the permalink version of the same page. Tried on my user page with no luck either. I wanted to add the map to Confuzzled, any chance you can make the commented out section on that page work? -- Dingotush 22:06, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for fixing the map on Confuzzled! Out of interest, did you have to do?
I put it onto one line (no newlines in the middle of the google tag), and I saved it and purged the page (added ?action=purge to the URL and reloaded that). I did get a similar error, though, so I dropped an email to the Wikia tech folk. Perhaps this was what fixed it. --GreenReaper(talk) 14:46, 12 April 2007 (UTC)


Thanks for the welcome. I've got most of my page figured out, but there is one do I add pictures correctly? My current pic looks okay, but it isn't where it should, or in that little sqaure that it's supposed to be in..--Zeel1 23:48, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

I've added the necessary attributes to the image tags - have a look at the current version to see how it's done. You can get more information about them at the editing introduction - in general, you can check out how other pages have it done by editing them to see the wiki-markup. Hope this helps! :-) --GreenReaper(talk) 23:57, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

This is an archive page, covering technical/howto issues discussed on my user talk page from 10 June 2007 to 3 May 2008. Please do not edit this page - if you wish to bring up a topic, copy the relevant portion into a new section on the current page. Thanks! --GreenReaper(talk)

Bad Redirect[edit]

Hello. Using leads to the page , which is a 404 Not Found. Been like this for a few weeks I think, but not before. What's going on, I'm scared! -some furry

Hi there! This is due to an upgrade which broke a couple of features, including the redirect from that address. I actually changed the redirect back when I found out this was happening, and it works fine for me, but it may well have been cached at your end. --GreenReaper(talk) 21:35, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Question from RVDDP2501/possible new article[edit]

Hey GreenReaper, listen, I'm sorry to bother you. I just found out on the internet about some new comic book from Image Comics called "The Astounding Wolf-Man", there is a rather small page about it on my question is should there be an article about it here as well, I've never asked about making a page here about something on wikipedia before so I'm not sure about my place here in asking this question or if there is even a need to make one, I just thought I'd ask considering the subject matter of the comic since it deals with well a werewolf. I hope I haven't bothered you with my (hopefully not a stupid) question, ok then, see ya and I look forward to your question - RVDDP2501 01:57, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Tricky question. I'm not sure there is a need, since it doesn't really seem all that furry to me. I could be wrong, but it seems to be more of a classical werewolf/vampire/creatures of the night thing. A reviewer didn't think much of it on its giveaway in Free Comic Book Day. Here's some pictures from issue 2. I'd personally give it a few more issues to see if it turns out to have any kind of a lasting impact, or starts to go beyond the "oh me, oh my, I'm a werewolf, I have super powers to do good and/or evil" genre. But that's just me. --GreenReaper(talk) 03:17, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
Fair enough, I just thought I'd bring this to your attention :) - RVDDP2501 10:06, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Image replacement[edit]

You can delete Image:Jtw-kitchshorts.jpg. It has been replaced. --Kitch 22:27, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Redirecting for my WIKIA[edit]

Hello GR i only asking a little question if i want redirecting for my wikia what should i do? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Zizanzu (talkcontribs) .

Not quite sure what you mean by "redirecting", other than #REDIRECT [[pagename]], which you can't usually do interwiki. To link there, use something like [[|Klasse]]. --GreenReaper(talk) 14:11, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Request from RVDDP2501 (New Category)[edit]

Hey GreenReaper, I'm sorry to bother you but I was wondering if you maybe able to do something for me, I was wondering if you could create a new category for the extinctioners characters, specifically those who have appeared/debuted in a side comic called "Artic Blue" in the Extinctioners universe. The characters who have or will appear are the Fem Fatales, The Cerberus Brothers, Vincent Blackphox, Reggy Bryghttail and a few others who will come later. You can view these comics at the extinctioners website or on Shawntae's art pages at or So I guess the name of the category would be called Artic Blue comic characters or something along those lines, thank you and once again, I'm sorry to bother you with this, see ya :) - RVDDP2501 13:46, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

The best title is probably Category:Artic Blue characters. You could create that page and put [[Category:Extinctioners characters]] inside it, so that it is a subcategory. It is not necessary to have an administrator to do this, anyone can create categories. --GreenReaper(talk) 15:07, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

i need help!![edit]

Im trying to post my personal furrie story background and go into detail about my fursona... but ive never done this before on any willi site... IM LOST can u help me?? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Roxwood (talkcontribs) .

You've got the right page at Roxwood. I'll go through and tidy things up a bit. :-) --GreenReaper(talk) 07:29, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

HOw exactally would i be able to do that??

i think im ok for now..... any suggestions please PLEASE enlighten me... im really new at this an appreciate the help

My main suggestion is to look at all of the help pages, both on syntax and on how to write good articles. You might also want to check out some of the featured articles to see how good articles are written and presented (click the bold links on that page for the full articles). Obviously, most articles about people are unlikely to be featured, because there's only so much you can say about one person, but it's a target. :-) --GreenReaper(talk) 07:48, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Strange layout issue[edit]

Hi GreenReaper, I've just been tinkering with the Furfire article which for some very odd and unusual reason was causing the entire Wiki CSS layout to collapse in a rather horrible way (See image). The strange thing is that it only seems that it only affected the most recent revision of the article despite there being the same markup in the article. (I originally noticed something wrong with rev. 167083 but when I look at it in the history the layout appears to be just fine.

The bit of markup that I believe to be possibly suspect is:

<div style="float:right">__TOC__</div>

Once I removed this it appeared to come good. Does this make any sense to you why this would happen? I even dropped over to IE7 just in case my version of Firefox was on the fritz, but it persisted there too.

It looks like it's fixed now - but I still feel that that was really quite odd. -Composingliger 14:39, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

This is due to a problem with the cached version of such pages when edited by either anonymous users or users with the wikiwyg system turned on, which incorporates additional markup into the page. The root cause is that it encloses things in a span and half of the div is within the span. I had hoped they would have fixed this by now, but it appears not. --GreenReaper(talk) 15:16, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
Alright, in that case I guess there's not all that much more that can be done that hasn't already been fixed. Thanks for the clarification. -Composingliger 15:31, 19 October 2007 (UTC)


Uhm hiya. I'm new here to this Wiki, but I have been a furry for a while, and I'm kind of clueless when it comes to Wikis. How do I start off? ^^;

Toshiro Kitteh 17:21, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi there, Toshiro! Probably the best way is to have a look at the help, including our policies and guidelines, and then read some of the featured articles (not just the summaries) to get a good idea of the sort of material that makes a good article. You can click Edit on any of these pages to see how they were put together.
After that, consider making a few edits to an article yourself. Some people start by trying to write an article about themselves in the third person (i.e. Toshiro Kitteh), but it is by no means a requirement. You might just want to use your user page to describe yourself more personally - or you might not want to write about yourself at all, but something that interests you. If you want to write about something that doesn't yet have an article, just find or add a link to it in another article, and then click it to start the page (you can also just change the URL, reload, and click edit, but then it might not be linked to anything). Adding to or making corrections to existing articles is just as useful, though. You can find various suggestions on the Community Central page.
Let me know if you need any help not already provided. :-) --GreenReaper(talk) 18:06, 12 November 2007 (UTC)


How do you mess with the colors/shading on a wiki table? I proposed something like that for this page. Boingo 07:49, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Same as on a normal HTML table, except that there are certain limitations to prevent problems (most notably, you can't set an image as a background unless you do so via sitewide CSS). Probably what you would find most useful is the background-color style. Have a look at any HTML tutorial out there and you should find some tips on HTML tables that you can put to use here. You might also find Help:Table useful. --GreenReaper(talk) 08:05, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
I made my proposed changes. What do you think?
(I know it's a bit redundant to post that comment on this page as well, as you are WikiFur's resident omniscient overlord, but whatever) Boingo 01:27, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
Thought the colours were a little strong, so I tweaked them so that the text was more readable. You can do unordered lists using * at the front. --GreenReaper(talk) 01:42, 28 December 2007 (UTC)


Having resolved the previous 2 issues, I've come across another which would be the table that's now in the main RBW article, that lists 2006-8 and the GoH and staff. Although there are now staff and GoH pages, the links in the table are still directing to the edit section of the categories and I can't figure why. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Axle (talkcontribs) .

It takes a moment for the wiki software to fully update the links - to prevent locking, it does not do so immediately, but defers such actions to spread across page accesses. It is blue now. If in the future you see such problems, try adding ?action=purge to the URL (or &action=purge if a ? is already in the URL). --GreenReaper(talk) 23:59, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
Was just popping back to mention that I may have jumped the gun somewhat, but thanks again for taking the time to respond to my misguided queries.

Editing/Deleting account name[edit]

Hey there GreenReaper =D I've got a question for yah =P

Is it possible on Wikis to edit your name after it's been registered? I don't just mean a nickname or 'Real Name' on the preferences page, but the one used to log in and the title of a User Page.

I'd like to know because I want to revamp my fusona, and thought it would be a bit selfish to create a whole new account as well as one I wouldn't use anymore.

Big thanks if it's possible =) Aetherfax 15:50, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Unfortunately, Wikia does not offer such a "rename" function (partly due to complication involved with updating all 3000+ wikis with a new name). It is probably best to just go ahead and make the registration, then move the old user page to the new one, using the Move tab - or if there was not one, just use a #REDIRECT. Make sure to update the page about you, too. :-) --GreenReaper(talk) 16:51, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Allowing non-allowed HTML?[edit]

I was linked to you by Angela here, and I would like to know how to 'use mediawiki:common.js to embed IRC on a page', as mentioned there. If possible, we'd like to use the code already on the page w:c:Pikmin:Pikmin:Chatroom - Greenpickle(talk)

Heya! You can see how we did this over at Creatures Wiki's chat page by looking at Creatures:MediaWiki:Common.js. Basically, we find a div and replace it with the HTML we want (as well as setting up an on-exit handler to stop users closing or going to another page by accident). Hope this helps. --GreenReaper(talk) 20:05, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Er, I can't seem to get it to work, not with the code there or modified code. What I've put in w:c:Pikmin:Mediawiki:Common.js is:
function onloadhookcustom() {
  var replace = document.getElementById("chat");
  if (null != replace) {
    replace.innerHTML='<applet codebase=""
code="JRchatClient" align="baseline" width="100%" height="400"><param name="room"

if (window.addEventListener) window.addEventListener("load",onloadhookcustom,false);
else if (window.attachEvent) window.attachEvent("onload",onloadhookcustom);
And then putting <div id="chat"></div> on any page gives nothing. I've purged my browser's cache. It works when I put the code in an HTML file on my computer and open that, so I don't understand why it shouldn't work. I'm thinking that there might be something wrong somewhere in that wiki's css and js pages, as no-one can seem to get collapsible tables to work either. - Greenpickle(talk)
It's broken because you have a whole bunch of CSS in Common.js under the header "/* Forum formatting -Algorithm & -Splaka */" Take that out, and you should find it working a bit better. If you still have problems, use the Error Console in Firefox, under the Tools menu (reinstall with Developer Tools enabled if you don't have it). --GreenReaper(talk) 20:58, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
It works now. Thanks for all the help. - Greenpickle(talk)