User talk:GreenReaper/Policy9

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This is an archive page, covering admin and policy issues discussed on my user talk page from 1 August 2010 to 20 June 2011. Please do not edit this page - if you wish to bring up a topic, copy the relevant portion into a new section on the current page. Thanks! --GreenReaper(talk)

Please delete my article.[edit]

Hey there. I was wondering if you could delete the page for me. I've lost interest in keeping up with wikipedia and stuff and I would like my own page removed. Thanks alot. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Fidge (talkcontribs) .

It's not your page, it's our page about you - even if you started it. However, we do have an exclusion policy, which I have applied to that page. Please contact myself or another administrator if you would like to revert this exclusion. --GreenReaper(talk) 18:12, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism targeted at Anthrochat-related articles[edit]

Seems that some members from Anthrochat have taken to vandalising particular articles. I've reverted Anthrochat and Furrycoffeeshop a few times already today. Is it possible to get those pages protected somehow? Thanks. :) CodeCat 19:39, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

We do not normally protect pages unless vandalism becomes unmanageable, or a "time-out" is needed between editors. However, the two anonymous users concerned have been blocked for inserting inaccurate information before, and they have now been blocked for a longer period for the same reason. --GreenReaper(talk) 19:48, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Allright, seems fair, thanks. I'm just not sure it will help much, because I know the people behind those IPs. They'll probably just come back in 2 weeks and do it again... :/ CodeCat 20:21, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Deleted Images[edit]

I can understand the copyright violation, but 'there is agreement that the work was used'? Unless I am understanding you wrong, there was no agreement - you stated that yourself. If I were to upload these again under a different usage, would they be removed again?

Rinduri 00:12, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Nobody disagrees that Tuqiri used Vailwolf's work in the art show - just whether or not it was "fair use" to do so. Therefore, there is little justification for using copyrighted works to show this, especially against the wishes of both copyright holders.
As I understand it, you were already advised by Vailwolf that she did not wish you to redistribute her work. I think you should strongly reconsider your reasons and legal grounds for doing so regardless. --GreenReaper(talk) 00:42, 7 September 2010 (UTC)


Hi there! Please don't remove all content from pages, as you did with Inuki. Such changes will be reverted, especially when no reason is given. --GreenReaper(talk) 04:27, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

That's what she gets for degrading me
"Like most Thieves, she claims to ask before applying her edits, however this is in fact a lie. Even if it were true she posts her edited pictures in sites that do now allow such works and considers them traced or stolen, hence her label in the fandom as an Art Thief"
She added that to my page without my permission -Twilightwolf4:
I'm not sure you have the right person. Inuki is from Germany; the edits in question came from an IP address that traces to New York. Regardless, such edits just waste our time, not the subject's. Please refrain from them in the future. --GreenReaper(talk) 04:35, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Is there a way to prevent editing of a userpage?

Administrators can do lots of things - though page protection is usually a last resort. If there's clearly an ongoing problem, other will step in. Note that you have the ability to watch pages, and to be emailed when an edit is made to them.
Bear in mind that like most public wikis, WikiFur is open to all editors. While user pages will generally be left to the user concerned, if the information on them appears particularly one-sided, others may be inclined to edit them. Content that appears to be a description of a subject may also be moved to the main namespace and edited further, as user pages are not intended to replace or duplicate articles (compare GreenReaper and User:GreenReaper). --GreenReaper(talk) 05:00, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Either way, I'd rather not have my page altered Especially not with lies made by anti-furs

Well, and here's where it gets tricky - when it comes to a wiki, it's not "your page". It's "our page about you". The User: page is intended to provide information relating to your contributions to WikiFur - not as a venue for presenting your own opinion of yourself without fear of rebuttal; nor for criticizing others, especially when it comes to off-wiki matters. That stuff belongs on your homepage, and we're not a hosting site. If you want a page which only you can edit, you should probably look elsewhere. --GreenReaper(talk) 05:27, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Is deleting possible? Although 'they' would make a new page about me anyway, ah well, life goes on, popularity has ups and downs, plus, not a lot of people know about my page...

there's no need to reply back to this

Please remove my name and email address from this article[edit]


I would really appreciate it if you could remove my name and email address from this question I asked several years ago?

It comes up when people search my name in search engines so i'd really appreciate it if those bits could be removed?

Thank you

P —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs)

I've redacted the e-mail address from that article. Since you posted this request as an anonymous IP user, we can't tell what your name is and there are several mentioned in the article. You could just change the article yourself. --mwalimu 14:04, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

- Fab, thanks, have done.

Sorry for the reversion, I didn't see this discussion, and didn't know there was a legitimate request to remove that information (or that it was even the original user doing it). -- Natasha Softpaw ( talk | contribs ) 03:49, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Username Change[edit]

GreenReaper, is it possible for you to rename my username to BlueOtter, merging my user paging into the existing BlueOtter article? Thanks in advance! BlueOtter 22:36, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Done. --GreenReaper(talk) 22:40, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
You are ridiculously fast... and awesome. Thank you. :) BlueOtter 22:47, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
There seems to be some confusion, however. User pages are intended for information about the user on WikiFur. They are not intended to separate people from their characters. The main-space page is a third-person account intended to be edited by all, while the user page is typically written by the editor in first person, who may give background to their editing activities or provide details of a non-encyclopedic nature (e.g. contact info). Compare my user page and GreenReaper. --GreenReaper(talk) 22:48, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the clarification. I believe I understand, but how do you suggest then separating real-life people who are referred to by their character names as a pseudonym (who only give such a name), but also have distinct eponymous characters? For instance, my year of birth or occupation don't have any baring on these attributes for my characters, and applying for instance, the Programming category to my real-person make sense, but not BlueOtter, the character and online persona. Would you suggest a disambiguation page in this case for person vs. character? I just want to make sure I do things right and consistent with the patterns you and others have established. :) BlueOtter 14:47, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
Because most furs use their character names to represent themselves, articles under their names are assumed to be primarily about the person ("People" is invariably the first category). Their character is either treated as if it were "part of the person" and integrated throughout ("RandomFurry is a grey wolf and software developer who lives in Newark") or described in a separate "Character" section of the same article, depending on the attitude that the subject has to their primary character. In your case, a section might be most appropriate - you can restate any differing information such as age or personal characteristics in that area. The categories are combined at the end, unless the character has a different name. (In that case - often used by fursuiters - we normally make a separate section for the characters, then make the character name a redirect to that section and put the character-specific categories on the redirect page so that the character name shows up in those categories - e.g. YellowOtter == #REDIRECT [[RandomFurry#Character]][[Category:Otter characters]].) --GreenReaper(talk) 15:16, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
Another approach to take if your life outside fandom is not a major factor in your activities is to treat the character as the primary topic and have a separate section labelled something like "Real life". The order of categories would remain the same, however. --GreenReaper(talk) 15:22, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

People who don't get it[edit]

Just had a look at recent edits and wow... Meepsheep appears to be racking up an impressive number of block evasions (assuming Meepsheep is the original account). Talk about failing to get the message. Would it be effective to block all logins from that IP? Or would that be against Wikifur's policies/ethos? Just wondering, because one could spend a lot of time just keeping track of this one clown. --GingerM (Leave me a message) 23:52, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

I did, however many proxy addresses were used in an attempt to circumvent it. I have filed an abuse report with Comcast. --GreenReaper(talk) 23:53, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

Too bad Comcast doesn't care about your insignificant wiki drama. --HiggoLippo 06:11, 12 April 2011 (CEST)

Impending Edit War[edit]

The user Skittle has set out to edit the Fritter wikifur page in an effort to remove all information on Fritter's accused from, this information is widely publicly in countless media outless. Skittle's announced his full intention to edit the article to his needs and has no interest in discussion of the issue. Skittle claims that Fritter has requested the page be removed but has no evidence of this. With this intention for an edit war, reverting the article seems futile and I would like an administrator to step in and clarify the rules in this case of 'Publicly available private information' as it seems it would be the most expedient solution. AshleyAshes 00:50, 9 April 2011 (CEST)

Requesting removal[edit]

Hi, I was wondering if I could have the page about me (entitled Zest Wolf) deleted. Thank you. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) .

Hi! We need to confirm all removal requests actually come from the people concerned; I'll attempt to contact you via your MSN account or failing that, your dA account. --GreenReaper(talk) 20:53, 17 April 2011 (EDT)

Vandal Ban Appeal[edit]

Please ban User:Loxx and delete the pages they made, as they are mindless vandalism. Equivamp 17:40, 1 May 2011 (EDT)

I already did. --GreenReaper(talk) 17:42, 1 May 2011 (EDT)
Sae that. You're rather fast. Thank you! Equivamp 17:44, 1 May 2011 (EDT)

I have my reasons[edit]

There are limits to what should and shouldn't be publicly displayed. I'm sure you understand that. By allowing my birth date, my state and city of residence, my full name, and links to profiles that are otherwise irrelevant to cited information, puts my real life in jeopardy. All it takes is one person to say "I'm gonna be the internet white knight" and start doing background checks, or attempt identity theft, to make my already turbulent life to take that much more of a turn for the worst. If it makes it any better, I'll personally write the entry as it should be, and as it should be less threatening to my wellbeing. If anything were to happen to me, I would be certain to connect this website directly with the leaking of my personal information. Now, that isn't a threat but merely what would happen if my real life personal information remains so publicly displaced as it was here. Possibly if you could just delete the entry all together, I will leave in peace and never return lest I need to defend myself again, as I'm sure you understand.- —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rainbowcandy (talkcontribs) .

Ginger Vixen[edit]

Hi, Ginger Vixen here.

I must request, please, due to family issues, that you delete my WikiFur page. Many thanks. Ging 12:34, 26 May 2011 (EDT)

Furry Feet & Naylon[edit]

That is all. Equivamp 15:45, 3 June 2011 (EDT)

Article History[edit]

Is there any way you could delete the history of Equivamp without deleting the article itself? And this includes edit summaries. Personal information that has since been removed from the article doesn't need to be discovered, but I have reason to believe someone will attempt to "drop dox" on me very, very, soon, and that's something I could do without. Scalesona.jpgEquivamp 19:30, 15 June 2011 (EDT)

Can you give the date of the last revision that you are concerned with? Your recent edits do not appear to involve such information. --GreenReaper(talk) 19:34, 15 June 2011 (EDT)
The first few edits contain my legal name. That's what I'm concerned about. Scalesona.jpgEquivamp 19:41, 15 June 2011 (EDT)
I think we should be good now. --GreenReaper(talk) 19:45, 15 June 2011 (EDT)
Thanks a ton. Scalesona.jpgEquivamp 19:49, 15 June 2011 (EDT)

Blocking Meepsheep[edit]

Wait, so I'm not welcome here? Meepsheep wasn't making negative edits, as far as I saw. We're welcome there, as long as we're good; aren't we supposed to assume good faith? Scalesona.jpgEquivamp 10:22, 19 June 2011 (EDT)

This is hilarious on so many levels. —Xydexx 15:38, 19 June 2011 (EDT)
Meepsheep has been responsible for significant disruption of this wiki in the past few months, as he has at Wikipedia and several other wikis. Massive, continued proxy abuse, front page and template vandalism, you name it. I have reported this abuse to his ISP on more than one occasion. He is not welcome here, period. --GreenReaper(talk) 15:48, 19 June 2011 (EDT)
To answer your more general question: contributors to WikiFur are expected to remain neutral, and actions which call this neutrality into question are problematic. We cannot assume you are editing an article about a person in good faith if you are also making fun of them over at ED (or elsewhere). I have blocked at least one editor for this precise activity in the past. You really need to make a choice – do you want to be known as a person who fairly and dispassionately reports on the fandom and those within in, or one who publicly documents the weaknesses and failings of fellow fans for your own amusement? --GreenReaper(talk) 17:00, 19 June 2011 (EDT)
I see. I hadn't realized wikifur was so inclusive, or that I'd ever made any negative edits to this wiki. Scalesona.jpgEquivamp 09:29, 20 June 2011 (EDT)
It was not a matter of making negative edits to this wiki. It was purportedly editing in a neutral matter while at the same time spreading shit on ED. I hope that is clear? :-) --GreenReaper(talk) 09:34, 20 June 2011 (EDT)
Well, it's a good thing I don't edit the articles of people that have one at ED. :-) Scalesona.jpgEquivamp 09:38, 20 June 2011 (EDT)