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[edit] Bots

Is there anyway to have a bot put ContributorU on user pages, at least the ones with a matching article name? Or, perhaps, one that puts welcome templates on the talk pages of new users? Scalesona.jpgEquivamp 19:53, 22 June 2011 (EDT)

Both of those are technically feasible, but the first would require writing a bot script and assumes they are the same person, while I'm not sure the second is a good idea in general. Welcomes are at best rather impersonal if you have a bot do them, and at worst end up looking stupid when you start welcoming vandals (faking the last admin to edit signing it only makes it worse, as seen at Wikia). --GreenReaper(talk) 20:01, 22 June 2011 (EDT)
All right. Just a thought I had and thought I'd ask about. Scalesona.jpgEquivamp 20:13, 22 June 2011 (EDT)

[edit] Questions

What do you define the difference between a fursuit and an animal costume? The subject has come up at Wikiepdia's fursuit article, but I'm a rather poor debater, and feel my opinion is pretty closed-minded. My opinion is that a fursuit is only a fursuit if associated with furry, otherwise, it's an animal or mascot costume. However, I know that some feel an animal costume is a fursuit, and the two are synonymous. I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on this. Scalesona.jpgEquivamp 12:43, 28 June 2011 (EDT)

As it happens I was already reading that discussion. I think my response would be much the same as yours - certainly, animal costumes existed, but they were not used for the same reasons, nor (apparently) called the same thing. I might respond there, but I'm a little busy at work now. --GreenReaper(talk) 12:49, 28 June 2011 (EDT)

Also, whenever I try to edit a section or add a new section, the wiki tries to replace the entire text with the section. Any thoughts on why this is? It may have something to do with the fact that I am using Internet Explorer, which gives me problems in general on this Wiki. Scalesona.jpgEquivamp 12:45, 28 June 2011 (EDT)

What version of IE is it? Does it happen if you do turn off the advanced editing functions in preferences so that you no longer have the WikiEditor toolbar showing? --GreenReaper(talk) 12:49, 28 June 2011 (EDT)

+ ::It's the newest version. The only difference between the newest version and the older one (which I used on my PC) is that this allows me to edit, as long as I do not scroll down the page, whereas the older would simply lock up my computer if I even went to an edit page. The only way I am able to edit on this laptop I often use is by typing without scrolling too much, and then clicking the "Changes" tab, where it allows me to scroll down to click save. I have just turned off the advanced editing functions, and it still did it. Scalesona.jpgEquivamp 13:03, 28 June 2011 (EDT)

[edit] Disregard the email I just sent

You took care of it. Scalesona.jpgEquivamp 21:44, 2 July 2011 (EDT)

Actually, now might be a good time to ask. I'd like to be able to fight vandalism with greater ease. And while it wouldn't have helped much in this last situation, would it be too much of me to request rollback privelages? Scalesona.jpgEquivamp 21:55, 2 July 2011 (EDT)

Sure. --GreenReaper(talk) 22:01, 2 July 2011 (EDT)

Wow, really? I was honestly expecting a "I'm sorry, but..." (Especially considering my recent ousting as an EDiot.) Thanks! Scalesona.jpgEquivamp 22:06, 2 July 2011 (EDT)

Just keep in mind what is not vandalism. --GreenReaper(talk) 22:08, 2 July 2011 (EDT)

[edit] — There is a discussion of domain and copyright protection (trademarks). --SHREW 22:00, 8 July 2011 (EDT)

Responded. --GreenReaper(talk) 00:19, 9 July 2011 (EDT)

[edit] Altering/deleting species profile

After a few years of it being there, I suddenly found a user "Spirou" putting my Monoceros page up for deletion. When I undid his edit and asked why, he deleted it in its entirety and replaced it with a 'redirect'.

Just curious why I was singled out. Or are all pages due to to be similarly deleted/redirected if any single WikiFur editor decides that a 'custom species' isn't to his or her liking? If you're nuking all of them, then no worries, I understand. But if it's just this page, I'd really like to know why.

There are multiple monoceri played online, and yes, I've referred others (esp. on SpheresMU*) to that page for reference. Just because no others of them are WikiFur members with their own page yet doesn't mean that the fictional species entry for monoceri should be deleted. Some fairness or explanation would be highly appreciated. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tugrik (talkcontribs) .

Discussion continued at Talk:Monoceros. --GreenReaper(talk) 10:39, 13 July 2011 (EDT)

[edit] AFF postings

Mr Reaper, please do not mention my name at when linking to AFF postings I made. I do not wish for my name to appear anywhere on that site. -- Oliver

Replied via email, after figuring out what posts was being talked about. Note: Flayrah has its own contact page. --GreenReaper(talk) 10:39, 13 July 2011 (EDT)

[edit] Policy Question

Do I need permission to write an article about somebody or could I create a stub based off of information on someone simply based off of their FurAffinity information? Equivamptalk 12:17, 14 July 2011 (EDT)

Anyone can start an article on any topic, unless a personal exclusion is in effect. --GreenReaper(talk) 12:32, 14 July 2011 (EDT)

[edit] This has nothing to do with me

I don't want Meepsheep here any more than you if he acts like this. Equivamptalk 02:17, 17 July 2011 (EDT)

[edit] Hello

There is a discussion that needs your attention at Talk:Encyclopædia Dramatica (.ch) <o> 03:58, 26 July 2011 (EDT)

I skimmed over it a few minutes ago, but it didn't seem like any consensus had been formed as to do anything that would require a curator. The editing community as a whole makes the decision here, we just facilitate them, so you'll need to try to work things out with the regular editors of that article rather than appealing to authority. --GreenReaper(talk) 04:01, 26 July 2011 (EDT)

[edit] Question

Are you going to permaban the IP ( as well? This one is unique in that it isn't a proxy, but... Equivamptalk 23:46, 26 July 2011 (EDT)

[edit] Re:

I'll see if that works; thanks for the tip. Equivamptalk 15:43, 27 July 2011 (EDT)

Hm...I must have a different layout for Yahoo, I'm not seeing any of the buttons I'm supposed to click. Equivamptalk 15:49, 27 July 2011 (EDT)

I found it, but It leads me to a blank page. Equivamptalk 16:00, 27 July 2011 (EDT)

However, eBuddy works. Equivamptalk 16:12, 27 July 2011 (EDT)

Well, I talked to him. Nothing was really accomplished, however. He accused me of attacking him when I was merely asking why he wanted the section removed, which he didn't give a clear answer to. He said he didn't want people googling his name to find out about FA, so I suggested not indexing it, which you've apparently done. However, he then said it was pointless to have the article at all if Google can't find it, to which the only solution is personal exclusion, but he didn't want that either. Then he did want it. He seemed to have changed his mind again by the end of the discussion, and said the information was inaccurate. I advised him to correct it, then threatened to blank it immediately after. All the while making passive aggressive insults and threatening to tattle on me to you for "bringing drama" and telling me I'm lucky he didn't have me banned, despite having done nothing wronf. In fact, I was more polite than usual. Also, you apparently "told him about me" but I don't know what you said. All in all, it only managed to shave a few years off my lifespan, because I still don't know what he wants or what happened. So, I was wondering if you could explain to me what I'm supposed to do/have done, or talk to him yourself. Equivamptalk 17:40, 27 July 2011 (EDT)

We've had further conversation. This sort of thing happens every now and again in some cases. For the record, all I really told him about you was that you wouldn't respond well to vague threats - which was apparently correct. --GreenReaper(talk) 21:21, 27 July 2011 (EDT)

It's not that I thought you said anything bad, he just alluded to it enough that it seemed like something important. Equivamptalk 21:30, 27 July 2011 (EDT)

[edit] RBW boat party notice

Hi GreenReaper,

That's actually a very good point - it seems to be a UKFur issue. If you go here :, and look at the RBW forum 'last updated' thing on the right, it (currently) says 124 topics, but the forum itself is only showing 3 pinned topics.... I've PM'd the admins about it and I'm waiting on the response. In the meantime, you can search the UKFur boards, using "RBW boat party" (minus the quotes) as search criteria, and the article is (currently) the 4th one down. The actual comment from Miyabi (aka sneppid) is post #19 and reads as follows:

We've sortof dropped the ball on this – we're all quite enjoying the time off; not having massive heart palpitations and not being plunged into huge personal debt is a really nice feeling :3 We're also pretty busy managing LF stuff (well, most of us are, anyway). We'll probably make an official announcement soon but for the time being don't hold your breath for a 2011 boat party – think 2012 instead. We couldn't get the Erasmus at all for the dates we wanted this year, which wouldn't be a huge problem but we'd like to keep the vessel the same. Sorry about the radio silence, but will keep you posted re: 2012.

So, no "official" announcement generally available, no. If that changes, I'll update the article (assuming you're happy with this as a reference - I can email you a screenshot if you like. :) Bezel 05:15, 2 August 2011 (EDT)

The issue with UKFur should now be fixed - apparently there were some unexpected hiccups when the RBW posts were moved from "conventions" to "events", which have now been corrected. Bezel 11:06, 3 August 2011 (EDT)

[edit] UKR flag

Can you add the UKR (Ukraine) flag to flagdiv and Flags.png? --mwalimu 09:07, 2 August 2011 (EDT)

[edit] Furnal Equinox Edits by Non-Directors/ConCom

Hey Green, We've all been through this before. dan skunk is reversing edits on the page, after I removed the "see other/danskunk" and he placed it back. With me removing again. As a director of the convention and concom, speaking with others on said places. We do not wish his wikifur linked from our page article. He has mention in the article and that is enough, he has and still continues to cause problems for us, including many threatening e-mails sent to myself and other directors of the convention in the last few months. We would appreciate if he was blocked from editing our page, or our page was locked from edits, except from anyone of the directors. Scani, Myself, Blindsight, Pakesh or Arctic. At the least I'd like dan skunk to be prevented from editing our page. We don't need more issues then we already have with him and his problems.

Shane Nicholson Director/ConCom - Furnal Equinox

Perhaps it's poor form for me to interject on user talk pages, but I noticed this change had felt compelled to jump in because you're asking for administrative lockdowns on this article. Generally, I feel it is not appropriate policy for pages to be locked down to a whitelist of official authors who can contribute. I help run a convention, so I have a similar perspective about public perceptions and controlling impressions. We do this through our convention website, and I think that's the appropriate place for controlled messages and positive promotional text. Our event, like yours, has had a turbulent past that got us to where we are today, and while history isn't always positive or engendering of those presently organizing an event, convention, website, etc., it's an important part of the history of the event, but also, often for the regional fandom at large. If items are added which are true facts, written in a NPOV, and are referenced according to standard, even if they cast an event in a contentious or less than positive light, they're part of a total perspective an encyclopedic article deserves. I noticed the tremendous amount of edits/reverts/reedits/talk page notes that have been going on about your event, and I can't find evidence that Dan is "trolling" in any usual sense, though I certainly understand how you might wish him to not publish his edits as associated with your event. However, I think to be true to it's intended form, that's a concession we have to allow to keep Wikifur credible and in a long-term sense, truly useful. I don't believe anyone should be granted a privileged status as to what an article should say because they are elected or appointed to organize the subject matter being discussed. At the very least, I would recommend that if Dan puts up something you find untruthful, the references be questioned and researched by uninvolved parties, and consensus is reached before edits/reverts are made. Until that happens, even if you were exclusive granted access to maintain the article, it would no longer be credible, it would simply be promotional without community consensus and involvement. [I am going to cross-post this to your own Talk page just so you get this.] BlueOtter 17:03, 17 August 2011 (EDT)

[edit] Just updated some info

This is Cloudchaser Sakonige. I just edited "Cloudchaser Shaconage" and "Furry Dictionaries" to correct the spelling of my last name and on "Cloudchaser Shaconage" I updated the External Links. That of course has broken the link to "Cloudchaser Shaconage" from "Furry Dictionaries." How do I edit the main title of "Cloudchaser Shaconage" so "Shaconage" get changed to "Sakonige"? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 07:47, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Since both questions have been ignored, I'll post this here.

So you deleted the article; fair enough. However, while the other article continues to exist I find that a prime example of double standards. Also that you didn't allow a true discussion to be held about its deletion seems silly. Equivamptalk 17:17, 26 August 2011 (EDT)

You mean the one about Blu Aardvark? If there's a consensus there to delete it, I'd be fine with that as well. As far as I'm aware, they haven't really been an issue here recently. As for the discussion, I saw four people in favour of deletion - five if you count me - one oppose (from the page creator), and one noncommittal response. If we were Wikipedia, it might be necessary to keep such pages around to inform those unaware of the situation, but I don't think that's the case here. --GreenReaper(talk) 17:19, 26 August 2011 (EDT)
Double-standards? On WikiFur? It's more likely than you think! —Xydexx
Meh. I only saw two opposing (excluding you). And ohai Xydexx, good to see you survived the earthquake. Unless you're a ghost. And that'd be weird. Equivamptalk 17:45, 26 August 2011 (EDT)
Ohai Equivamp. Rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated. The earthquake really didn't do much damage here, but we definitely felt it. —Xydexx
Looking back at it, there were three (four counting you). Equivamptalk 17:58, 26 August 2011 (EDT)
Fair enough. I'll take four over one, especially when they're the ones who have to deal it. This isn't a game for us, it's a waste of time that could be spent writing articles. --GreenReaper(talk) 18:14, 26 August 2011 (EDT)

I'm not playing "games" if that'd what you're implying. Equivamptalk 18:18, 26 August 2011 (EDT)

[edit] Thanks

Just wanted to say thanks for the welcome  :) Bi-snow 16:37, 4 September 2011 (EDT)

[edit] Moving Equivamp

Hi GR,
I'm curious as to why you went through the process of deleting Equivamp's article, moving the revision over, and restoring the old edits. Wouldn't it have been quicker to just cut and paste, or am I overlooking something?--Higgs Raccoon 23:10, 4 September 2011 (EDT)

Perhaps, but it would have left the edits made by Equivamp separate. I felt it was better to keep them all together. --GreenReaper(talk) 23:11, 4 September 2011 (EDT)

[edit] TGcomix

Can you please keep an eye on the tiny community of pedophiles here, especially with their stated intentions to harass 15-year-old girls on, which he uses to write about his personal enemies (eg. Brainwurms, Zaiger420, Thayo). I doubt that TGcomix wishes to be a constructive contributor here; his main goal seems to be recruitment. I doubt Tyciol will present any problems; it's TGcomix you really need to worry about. If you won't ban TGcomix in order to save your wiki from any problems he may present in the future, you should at least tell him that comments such as this aren't welcomed. --Michaeldsuarez 17:25, 11 September 2011 (EDT)

I should also point out they are furry-based comments, in case that's relevant. Equivamptalk 18:49, 11 September 2011 (EDT)
With the speed that GR reverted meep's inappropriate inquiry on my talk, it makes me think it's on a watch list or somethin'. Anywho, I dispute MDS' allegation of being a member of such a community. I'm polite enough to engage in discourse with anyone including this TG fellow but do not want any part of his plans to harass Eq on this trikiwiki thing. I took a look at it and it is in poor taste. Ty 04:24, 29 October 2011 (EDT)
Edits to all WikiFur sites are posted to #wikifur-edits on IRC, and I often review them. --GreenReaper(talk) 04:27, 29 October 2011 (EDT)

[edit] Article


As of Monday, the 12th of September 2011, my charges have been unconditionally withdrawn by the Crown and Court of Ontario, Canada. On that note, I would like to request my personal information be removed from my article page without threat of moderators such as AshleyAshes re-adding such information. In addition, I would like the note of any mention of the charge be removed, as it now poses as a threat to my future in both personal and professional stances. If you require any written proof, I am in the process of gathering the documentation from the courts and my lawyer notating that the matter has been resolved outright.

In addition, I would like to file a complaint against your moderator AshleyAshes, for personally bringing it upon himself to see that my reputation be tarnished, even after the criminal charge has been dropped. He played the entire matter as though I was guilty from the instant I was picked up, and appears to believe it is still the case though my charge has been dropped. I would like to politely speak with you in private on this matter further, so that these issues may be resolved as cleanly and respectfully as possible. It has been a difficult past 6 months, and I would like to do my best to keep those past 6 months under wraps for the future.

Fritter 20:57, 14 September 2011 (EDT)

Hi Fritter. I am glad to hear that you have apparently resolved this matter. As the information we have is backed by a published news article, some form of reference or document proving what you have said would be appreciated. If it can be proven, I am personally open to removal of the topic from the article about you; however, as we act on consensus and have not faced this exact situation before, I'll sound out the feelings of other editors on the discussion page.
You might consider contacting the newspaper which originally covered this story to ask them to print an update. I also would be glad to update the Flayrah article on this topic, and/or to post a new story there of equal prominence mentioning the withdrawal of the charges.
AshleyAshes is not a WikiFur colleague/curator and does not represent the site in any capacity beyond that of a contributor. He also has no more or less power than you have - well, OK, technically there are a couple of things he can do because your account is new as of yesterday, but he has not been granted any special powers. We encourage all editors to ensure that articles are accurate and comprehensive, although in this case I would have preferred to see an attempt to confirm the information provided rather than immediately remove it.
In the future, I suggest using the "summary box" above the save page button to provide an explanation of the motivation for your edits to other editors. This will appear on the history page as a brief explanation of the edit. Without it, it can be tricky to deal with situations like user A adding information X to an article, user B removing it for a reason in line with wiki guidelines (e.g. a lack of a citation), and user A then adding it in again without giving any response to B's reasoning.
You are welcome to talk to me in the #wikifur chat room, or to email me, but please bear in mind that I am relocating to Texas this weekend and may be away packing up boxes. As mentioned above, policy and article content decisions on WikiFur are made through the consensus of editors, not handed out from above as in most websites, but I would be glad to advise you on how our system works and suggest how best to achieve your goals. --GreenReaper(talk) 21:53, 14 September 2011 (EDT)

[edit] Removing pages created by me a long time ago

Hello, I was wondering whether I can have the pages for "Sparks (fan)" and "Syona Starlight" removed from this wiki. I am Syona, Sparks is my significant other. I am trying to scrub the net clean of what I can of any of our presence. Thank you. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Darkeskunk (talkcontribs) .

Following up via FA note and AIM. --GreenReaper(talk) 23:50, 2 October 2011 (EDT)

[edit] Question about terms.

Hello, I'm Targal and EvilDragon. you should know me already, as I was sometime in IRC.

Hi there! Sorry for the slow reply, I've been busy recently in real life . . .

1. Rante has made classification about furry. as I saw it, but his term in the word explaining classification looks something weird. so I question you looks whether it something uncomfortable or not.

I guess You should know these codes can be seen well on a book of libraries.

I think It'll be better if they're revised as latin-ous.

I do not particularly like codes as they are inflexible. For example, it says there that my character has a human body . . . but it is half the height of a human, and in fact the stance is more forward-leaning. It also appears to be redundant to define "divisions" if you have defined "detailed divisions" as it can be calculated from that. Overall, I would ask what is the use of such classification? On WikiFur, we use words, and it works well enough, I think.

2. is the word "furry" literary style?

this meaning is that the word "Kemono" in Japanese can ba hardly written on novels, because it's something inproper. but the word "Jyujin" having a similar meaning to Kemono is used often than "Kemono" on novels. likewise the word "suin" in Korean meaning furry and jyujin is also used on a novels, but it's so informal term only used on internet products that it can be written hardly on formal words. (but 'suin' is available half on novels) for example, you have to write 'yiffy' as 'adult furry things' on a formal paper, because 'yiffy' is a slang.

so, I wonder whether the word 'furry' can be used like that or not.

"Furry" is an informal term; you will not find it in any official dictionaries . . . yet. It is however used by many conventions and artists to describe themselves. If you want a more formal term for the characters which we focus on, I would suggest "[cartoon] anthropomorphic animal". --GreenReaper(talk) 00:00, 3 October 2011 (EDT)

[edit] Deletion of my article and all other mentions/page/etc

Hi! I would like to remove any real mention of me, the article on me, etc. I am now concerned about my privacy and the amount of information available about me on the internet, and would like to get rid of it as much as possible. You can contact me via the email listed in my preferences (I assume this is viewable by you?)

Thank you in advance :)

--Dimruthien 06:33, 11 October 2011 (EDT)

Replied via email outlining personal exclusion process (and its limits). --GreenReaper(talk) 02:42, 15 October 2011 (EDT)

[edit] People to Add

Hello GR,
I wonder if you could suggest a direction for the People to Add list? In particular, what should be done with names that defy a reasonable amount of research? Take "Susan Gui" or "John T Baptist", for example. Neither have any mention within WikiFur, and Google searches combined with obvious words like "furry", "furries", "fursona", "anthropomorphic", etc, produce no relevant hits. Neither do Google Groups searches or trying to guess a Fur Affinity account name.

Should such names be left, or removed?--Higgs Raccoon 17:25, 27 October 2011 (EDT)

I'd suggest removing them, on the basis that placement on the list is only useful if other people know who you're talking about. If the original adder really wants to make that article, they can always do that. --GreenReaper(talk) 17:28, 27 October 2011 (EDT)

[edit] Interesting archive splitting

I noticed your separate Admin/Policy + Technical + General categories for your archives. That is neat but it makes me wonder, does it add more work to archiving? Like do you look at each topic one by one and decide where you want to put it? So eventually, the order they are displayed in when split looks different from how they initially appeared in sequence when first posted? I thought about the possibility of adding month-parent single = cats but that is only for standard methods and would clearly overcomplicate in addition to this trinity division. Ty 04:29, 29 October 2011 (EDT)

Yes. It is more work; I do it because I am in a unique situation as many policy decisions and technical questions have been answered on my talk page, and it may be necessary for people to look through the archives to determine the historical basis for a decision (or just to get a general feel for the site's history). This makes it easier for them, as there's less to read through. --GreenReaper(talk) 04:37, 29 October 2011 (EDT)

[edit] I wish to remove my character from Wikifur

I would like to remove my character's profile from wikifur. I cannot delete it, can you do that for me? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jenesri (talkcontribs) .

I'm presuming you want us not to cover you, as well as your character? What we typically offer is personal exclusion, since otherwise anyone could recreate an article if it was deleted. I have noted your request on the relevant discussion page, and if there is no objection (which is likely), it will be excluded. --GreenReaper(talk) 21:55, 26 December 2011 (EST)

[edit] Problems with Internet Explorer

It would appear IE still has problems editing the site (though it can view it just fine). Editing is possible if I make the changes, then click the "Changes" tab at the top before clicking Save. Not doing this results in me having to resart the internet. This is a brand-new computer; I am using the most updated version of IE. Yes, I know, that's what I get for using it in the first place, but I'm too busy to download Chrome. Is there any reason for this, or do you not know? Equivamptalk 19:27, 9 January 2012 (EST)

Try unchecking the beta and labs features on the "editing" tab of your preferences? --GreenReaper(talk) 17:31, 11 January 2012 (EST)
test Equivamptalk 16:34, 16 January 2012 (EST)
Okay, it does appear to have worked. Thank you for your help. Equivamptalk 16:35, 16 January 2012 (EST)

[edit] A strange link

Hi, I was talking with someone and they mentioned that there was a link on Timothy Albee's page here on Wikifur that pointed to my page on FurAffinity, (

While Tim and I were close for years, we were never _that_ close.

I was wondering if someone could change that link? (I think his FurAffinity page is still there under TimothyAlbee.)

Thanks! Dreamsong

Sure; the updated page is at Timothy Albee. Note that you can edit most pages on WikiFur, even without an account. --GreenReaper(talk) 18:18, 22 January 2012 (EST)

[edit] Merge Kijani/Kijani Lion

Hi there, Kijani! I notice you already appear to have an account under User:Kijani Lion, initially created over at Wikia. Would you like me to merge the two?

You would need to login once as Kijani Lion using your old password, so that it correctly records contributions. --GreenReaper(talk) 03:50, 8 February 2012 (EST)

Hi there,
Yes if you could please merge the two userpages that would be great! It's been so long since I've edited by Wiki I completely forgot I had made that account. Thanks a lot! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kijani (talkcontribs) .
Great! Just go here and enter the old username and password so it's imported (we moved from Wikia, so despite having a user page it isn't a full user, but logging in will fix it), then I'll get it merged. --GreenReaper(talk) 04:03, 8 February 2012 (EST)
All merged. :-) --GreenReaper(talk) 04:18, 8 February 2012 (EST)

[edit] Personal exclusion/deletion

Hi, This is Rhylith, contacted you on FA. Can I have the personal exclusion applied to my/this account? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rhylith (talkcontribs) .

I have noted your request on the article discussion page - if there is no objection, it will be acted on after 24 hours. I can also delete your user page if you would like. --GreenReaper(talk) 18:48, 11 March 2012 (EDT)

[edit] User talk pages

I thought that only applied to the user page, while leaving the talk page up for public posts and Curators notices. At least that is how I have seen been done since day one - Spirou 22:35, 13 March 2012 (EDT)

If it gets to the point of blocking someone, a notice may be appropriate until they are unblocked. If you just need to say something to them, they are entitled to remove your speech once it's heard. It's not meant to be a scarlet letter. --GreenReaper(talk) 22:42, 13 March 2012 (EDT)
There's further thought on that at Wikipedia. --GreenReaper(talk) 22:49, 13 March 2012 (EDT)

[edit] Re: WikiFur Conservator

Thank you for letting me know, as well as fixing the Furcode template on my userpage. Equivamptalk 08:46, 2 April 2012 (EDT)

[edit] Mundane

I agree with removing the edits on Babyfur and the other article, but why remove my edits on the article of "Mundane"? Dylan (talk) 07:57,22 April 2012 (EDT)

The user concerned provided their reasoning in the edit history. This explanation is added in the summary box, which should be used to explain your reasoning/provide context for edits to other editors. (To sign your name and add a timestamp in discussions, just type ~~~~. In addition, please use the "show preview" button rather than saving changes repeatedly. See the help for more advice.) --GreenReaper(talk) 13:16, 22 April 2012 (EDT)

[edit] More flag icons needed please


In addition to Mwalimu's request above for the Ukraine flag to be added, could you also please add the following:

BEL (Belgium), EST (Estonia), FIN (Finland), HRV (Croatia), HUN (Hungary), IRL (Ireland), ISR (Israel), LTU (Lithuania), NLD (Netherlands)

as these are in an active article (ConFuzzled 2012) and are showing incorrectly. If you don't have the time or inclination, by all means tell me how to do it and I'll have a stab at uploading a file for you. Regards Bezel 02:46, 22 May 2012 (EDT)

Done. --GreenReaper(talk) 18:37, 26 May 2012 (EDT)
Sorry, but we need more ! :) In relation to the ConFuzzled 2013 article, we seem to be missing suitable flag icons for Iceland, the Isle of Man, and the United Arab Emirates. :) Bezel 15:30, 20 May 2013 (EDT)
Thanks for letting me know - I'll drop myself a note to look at this when I get home. --GreenReaper(talk) 15:32, 20 May 2013 (EDT)

[edit] Username blacklist thing

Can we forbid Weweesky as part of a username? It'd cut out a few of the having to immediately block as expected spammer accounts I'd like to think. I don't know if WikiFur has installed: -- Sine 02:03, 4 June 2012 (EDT)

We do have it (our extensions are listed at Special:Version), but it was disabled. I've enabled it now, so MediaWiki:Titleblacklist should work. I suggest not overusing it as spammers tend to rotate nicknames frequently; it's a little more useful for people trying to use certain elements in names, although it can just encourage creativity there as well. --GreenReaper(talk) 03:35, 4 June 2012 (EDT)

[edit] Personal Exclusion

I was wondering if I could have my wiki-thing, Sparky15756, blanked? I'm intending to edit it at a later date but for now I'd rather have it blanked as it's just an egotistical page that I made a few years ago and would rather it not see the light of day (anymore). But I'd like to keep my account on here for when I finally get around re-editing my wiki-article.


Since the reason seems to be more that you didn't like the current article rather than the idea of any article, I had a go at editing it. Please take a look and tell me if you still wish to be excluded. (Also, you can sign your name in discussions with ~~~~.) --GreenReaper(talk) 03:34, 22 June 2012 (EDT)

I still wish for the article to be excluded, but I do thank you for trying to make it look better. ~Sparky15756

As you wish; I have placed the customary 24 hour notice on the talk page, and if there is no objection (likely) I will perform the exclusion. --GreenReaper(talk) 03:49, 9 July 2012 (EDT)

[edit] Re-inclusion

Hey again, I was wondering if it's possible to unblank and re-include my article? I've prepared a pre-made article for if/when my article can be edited.


Sure. I've removed the exclusion and restored the last version; it is now open for editing. --GreenReaper(talk) 20:15, 29 March 2013 (EDT)

[edit] Edit and Lock

I'd like to request an edit and lock of my article on the grounds that I'm tired of two (unnamed) curators targeting my article with edits upon edits, one even threatening to block me from editing my page because I spoke out against them and even received word that I'm not allowed to talk about them on Twitter. ~Sparky15756

[edit] Removal of page histories

Hi there, I've been doing a little editing and article pruning recently, and was wondering if you could delete the histories for my userpage, and article.
I'm happy to stay on the site, but I'd rather some of the old and irrelevant information on the two pages that I've edited was removed.
Thanks in advance!

UaineSionnach 18:46, 21 June 2012 (EDT)

I have hidden the revisions which appear to contain personal information, such as your detailed location and date of birth. --GreenReaper(talk) 21:54, 21 June 2012 (EDT)
That's wonderful, thank you! UaineSionnach 21:58, 21 June 2012 (EDT)

[edit] Account rename (Mcgroarty)

Hey, Green. Would you be willing to rename Mcgroarty to Ink or McGroarty? I hadn't realized camelcase names might be an option at signup - they usually aren't with MediaWiki. And heck, I'd figured Ink would already be taken. Ink would be my first preference. --Mcgroarty 12:18, 6 July 2012 (EDT)

I've taken the liberty of renaming the Mcgroarty account to "Ink".--Higgs Raccoon 12:31, 6 July 2012 (EDT)

[edit] Help with Babysitting Cream?

Thanks for the welcome. I could use some help with the Babysitting Cream page, which is marked as needing to be wikified to match the Furry Book of Style. Whoever put that macro there, I'm not sure what they want fixed. (Aside perhaps from more citations, but the original author has explained the shortage of cites and I'm not sure I can improve on it much.) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by APDamien (talkcontribs) .

Hmm. There is some discussion of that work already. My view is that the topic is suitable, but it's not a good encyclopedia article. It reads more like a game guide. The choice of the section headers "How to play" and "Strategy" and the constant use of "you" are particularly telling. Description of the gameplay is appropriate, but less in the form of "here's what you should do", and more "here's what happens if the player does X". The article also contains uncited personal opinions about how the game should be improved, stated as fact. If someone has given such an opinion elsewhere, it could be included but should be cited and attributed to them. (You can sign your conversations on talk pages with ~~~~.) --GreenReaper(talk) 19:16, 15 July 2012 (EDT)

[edit] Can I have my article removed I wish to have this article about me removed. Please do so. Thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by SableQueanVilaya (talkcontribs) .

[edit] My article removal

Can I go ahead and blank it then put the exclusion tag on it? I really want this article removed. Please remove it or something. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by SableQueanVilaya (talkcontribs) .

Was ultimately excluded. --GreenReaper(talk) 19:46, 17 August 2012 (EDT)

[edit] Page Reversion. (Unexclusion)

  • After much consideration I would like the page back on track.
  • I would however like to get solitary priveleges to change the page info.
  • This is because other people have constantly changed it in the past, which let to its demise (and my temporary ban), updating it with incorrect info and details I myself corrected over time and time again.
  • It seriously gets on your nerves after a while. I know Wikifur is a place where 'everyone' can contribute and I like\endorse that, but after seeing the disasters that can occur: page protection surely is a luxury.
  • Sure, I would've liked it otherwise, but it seems some people (trolls in particular) can't handle that kind of freedom.


Correctly handled by Higgs Raccoon - we no longer offer this option, but advise watching pages with email notification. --GreenReaper(talk) 19:46, 17 August 2012 (EDT)

[edit] Unexclusion request


For reasons similar to those of BillyTheCat128 above, I had requested an exclusion, most likely because I had self-edited my page (and I also wanted the history to be purged). However, I now would be interested in seeing how WikiFur editors see me. I would like the Diti page to be recreated, so I would be happy if you “unblocked” the page (or make it a “red link”)! Thank you! Diti the penguin 04:40, 18 August 2012 (EDT)

The article has been unexcluded and is now publicly editable. Let us know if you have any further concerns. --mwalimu 10:08, 18 August 2012 (EDT)

[edit] Babysitting Cream thumbnails

It appears that you provided specific thumbnails for the article on the Babysitting Cream game. However, one of the thumbnails was never uploaded (or had the wrong filename), resulting in an ugly bar for the missing image, and the other image was from an earlier version of the game.

I have replaced these using the standard "thumb" feature of the Wiki image reference, allowing the software to generate the thumb by the default method. If you want to rebuild the thumbs, this is a reminder that they are there. APDamien 14:13, 3 September 2012 (EDT)

Oh, and thank you for replacing my incorrect version of the start page with a correct one. But... the way you did it doesn't get a full-size image when you click on it, only the thumbnail (with a link to the full image if you look for it). I don't understand how this thumb= stuff works well enough to fix it, so I'll just leave it up to you instead of reverting -- I hate reverts and will only do them for obvious vandalism or where the editor clearly didn't understand the purpose of the article/section. APDamien 15:03, 3 September 2012 (EDT)

Thank you for bringing this to my attention. The thumbnail was deleted because the software listed it as unused and another editor thought it was superfluous. I have noted its use on the file page. The thumbnails are used because indexed PNG thumbs are much more efficient than the full-colour ones made by default. I did a bit more digging and found that I can force a manual link as well as a thumb, so that should work nicely now.
As for the earlier version image, I replaced it with what I consider to be the "title" screen, which is equivalent to an earlier version of the image. The warning screen might be included too, as a separate image but it seems a little superfluous - maybe just a mention in the text, if anything? (If you can't see anything useful in a thumbnail, it's probably not a good image to use.) --GreenReaper(talk) 15:11, 3 September 2012 (EDT)

[edit] Further Confusion Charity totals

Hi. Have you had any luck in extracting the charity totals from FC for the past few years to be able to update the Timeline of charity donations article ? Bezel 03:43, 4 September 2012 (EDT)

Nope! I can try again, though . . . --GreenReaper(talk) 03:59, 4 September 2012 (EDT)
There were totals for both years in the budgets included with their 990 filing for 2011-2012 - $10,000 in 2011, $7000 in 2012. I updated the charity timeline. --GreenReaper(talk) 22:12, 28 December 2012 (EST)
Thanks for the update :-) Bezel 16:57, 30 December 2012 (EST)

[edit] Policy on self-editing? Just asking for clarification...

Hey there. I'm Kashi Commodore, one of the newer associate developers hired to work on Furcadia. A long-time Furc player and Beekin, I've now joined the team at DEP.

I have my own article, which was self-edited to an extent to correct inaccuracies. And I suppose it might be prudent to update it given my new position. That thought has highlighted an idea..

I see a few factual inaccuracies in Furcadia related articles which I'd be happy to correct. Of course, that would be 'self-editing' in a sense and wanted to clarify what the policy is on that. I'm not a marketer or salesperson, and am happy to attempt to cite official sources where possible. But I wouldn't want to invalidate the encyclopaedic purity of the site - merely correct a few errors. I could see how I would not be regarded as impartial. I'm not sure if I can say I would be an 'official' source myself, but I'm certainly as official as you are likely to get, which has it's own pros and cons of course. I could provide examples of what 'inaccuracies' I refer to if that helps.

I'd love to hear your thoughts. Thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kashicommodore (talkcontribs) .

Hi Kashi! At WikiFur we recognize that sometimes the best sources of information are those closest to the action. As such, we welcome such edits as long as they comply with the general policy on neutrality. There should be little problem with correcting questions of fact; if it starts getting into what you see as misconceptions of DEP policy or actions, it might be best to mention and reference examples of user views as well as the company's own position. In any case, we'd certainly prefer that you continue to do so under your own name, and to explain your reasons for changes in the summary box (or on the attached discussion page if necessary). --GreenReaper(talk) 15:02, 15 September 2012 (EDT)

[edit] Editing protection

The edits in question are indeed large, other curators have used this method to prevent editing while making theirs, the pages are only 80% finished, I am not receiving comment on the future status of disambiguation pages, and i'm not using this template as my sole property toy, but to prevent the hanging data from being disturbed until the final edit.

This was done with Kitsune and Vixen, and after being finished and unprotected, users started to modify the entries as normal. The changes are time consuming, long, tedious and a pain to enter one by one. Common courtesy during a curators edit would be appreciated - Spirou 21:08, 15 October 2012 (EDT)

This is not "I will be the only one editing this entry forever!" territory. I'm talking large input of material at one, most of the entries from diverse and obscure references (specially foreign). - Spirou 21:14, 15 October 2012 (EDT)
I can't see evidence of use of this method to protect personal editing projects. It is primarily used when there is a dispute over articles. If you have a large edit which you cannot complete within a matter of hours, it would be best to prepare it in your user space. I will expand on this in the ongoing discussion. --GreenReaper(talk) 21:16, 15 October 2012 (EDT)
Okay, then I will take Sine's suggestion, which is the most logical right know. I will remove (temporarily) the links that are currently not finished (not relinked, but just the ones with name and no description), move them to four folders for the four species/disambiguations on my Wikifur folder, and edit them offline, to be included back at a later time, so I can remove the edit tag, and open them to user traffic as of right now - Spirou 21:25, 15 October 2012 (EDT)
That sounds like a good way to start. --GreenReaper(talk) 21:27, 15 October 2012 (EDT)

[edit] spam guy

i'm adding some new articles to the italian wiki,but another guy is putting spam around the pages( even the main one),so please block him,my account is "Escofal"(i can't log in to the eng wiki,only to the italian version of the site).That bad guy has an ip like "173.--"

Spammer blocked. --GreenReaper(talk) 01:42, 7 November 2012 (EST)

However,a friend of mine posted another question in the eng forum but none has answered yet.

[edit] Editing the Homepage

Hello Greenreaper! I'm Valery91Thunder from the italian Wikifur. I'm working with a friend of mine (Escofal, he wrote to you before) to replenish and update the Italian part of the Wiki. We're currently working on adding new pages, but we'd also like to change the layout of our homepage, which is currently looking like this: . We'd like to create something more resembling to this: . Do you have any useful tips and tricks, or pheraps a link to a tutorial that shows us the best way to modify these pages? We're new, so we're still trying to learn the majority of the code. Thanks anticipate for your interest, we'll be waiting for your kind answer. :) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) .

Hi Valery! I'm glad you want to develop the front page. Unfortunately there is no manual for them in particular - you have to click "edit" and see what is done - but MediaWiki has a manual - in fact there are several.
On the English WikiFur, we have locked the front page, and are using a feature called template inclusion so that the content of the front page is on other pages. Basically, anything like {{WikiFur Central/Something}} is actually at [[Template:WikiFur Central/Something]]. This makes it harder for people to edit it, which is both good and bad . . . we also have the front page sections rotate each week (with edit links to the appropriate week).
Parts of the front page are on Template:WikiFur Central/Header, en:Template:WikiFur Central/Featured, Template:WikiFur Central/Comic of the Week, Template:Upcoming events, Template:WikiFur Central/Flayrah, Template:Did you know, Template:WikiFur Central/FeaturedPicture, Template:Furpile, Template:WikiFur Central/Footer and Template:WikiFur Central/MetaLinks. Most are protected to avoid vandalism (although to varying levels), because English gets a lot of it. There are also versions for screens which are 800px, 650px and 480px wide, which have their own templates or re-order them.
This is probably more complex than we need, and almost certainly more than you need. Given the size of the community, I would suggest that you consider it a "front page to furry fandom". What would someone new to the fandom want to learn? What Italian-languages resources, in particular, are useful? You can link to major topics, to categories - whatever you have available now. (One example along these lines is Portal:Furry on Wikipedia.)
I suggest that you don't commit yourself to making sections that you will have to update all the time, especially if only a few people can edit it. If you want a featured section, that's fine - but make it one that you can leave for a few weeks if necessary. There is less chance of deliberate vandalism here. Don't be afraid to link to content elsewhere - if there are popular Italian podcasts/shows/news with RSS feeds, you can display links to them, like we do for Flayrah.
I would also suggest looking at our Community Central page (source), and mixing some of this type of material on your front page - as you do with the "new pages" section - because it encourages contribution to these articles, and it is automatically generated. Some of the sections there use DynamicPageList. This is a powerful but complex tool. Try it out, but don't expect it to do exactly what you want straight away! --GreenReaper(talk) 20:56, 11 November 2012 (EST)
Hey there! Thanks for the quick reply, this is a lot of info indeed! I'll start looking at the pages you've linked soon, and your suggestion of doing a simpler page instead of a more "real-life updated" one was exactly in my thoughts. We had in mind to add some links to the major furry forums in there in case some new furs wanted a place to meet people and talk. :) Thank you again!

[edit] Protecting the Homepage

Hi GreenReaper, it's Valery91Thunder again from the Italian WikiFur, sorry to bother you ^^" We've successfully managed to edit the homepage, adding a new layout to it, more informations, and so on. We plan on creating the Community Portal as well, soon. We had another hacker/bot attack, though, that re-edited the homepage. I've managed to restore our version, but still, it's utterly unpleasant seeing our page being changed like that. :( So we finally decided we should add protection to the homepage, but I think, as I'm only a normal user, that I don't have the permissions to do that. Is there a way, or someone, that we can contact to do it for us? Thank you again for your time and kindness. :)

I have protected the main page against edits by anonymous or recently-registered users, and I have granted yourself and Escofal access as colleagues/sysops, since you are the active users at this time. Please use your new powers with restraint. :-) --GreenReaper(talk) 16:46, 22 November 2012 (EST)

[edit] Edits or Vandalism?

I am not sure if some of my edits could be seen as vandalism or not. Please reassure me that they are not. M3talgearrock-solid 10:56, 9 December 2012 (EST)

I don't think you have anything to worry about at present. If people have a problem with your edits, I'm sure they will contact you about it. --GreenReaper(talk) 22:44, 15 December 2012 (EST)

[edit] Removal of personal Information

Good morning,

I just wanted to request some information change on the wiki - firstly, about my birthdate, and my rl location, and my RL sex.

In particular I would like the birthdate removed, and the city, and the gendered pronoun. If you need verification it is me then I can post from FA or something. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Xaxoqual (talkcontribs) .

Sure, I think we can do that in accordance with our Personal information policy. I've removed these RL details from the article history, and will follow up with you on FA to confirm identity. --GreenReaper(talk) 13:19, 12 January 2013 (EST)

[edit] Help

Banned him!! Quickly. Cancel changes to the articles. I have a error (Error 503 Service Unavailable). High ping. SHREW 13:16, 15 January 2013 (EST)

Done. --GreenReaper(talk) 16:17, 15 January 2013 (EST)
Excellent. SHREW 16:49, 15 January 2013 (EST)

[edit] File:GreenReaper.png

Are you using this file in some non-obvious way, or is it alright to delete from WikiFur as Unused? -- Sine 17:13, 21 January 2013 (EST)

Umm . . . I might be! I honestly don't remember. If anything it's a link on another site. Could probably be deleted. --GreenReaper(talk) 22:22, 21 January 2013 (EST)

[edit] Hello, need help deleting a page?

Hi there, I made myself a page a while back under my username/character name 'Conjure'. I am no longer part of the fandom and have also changed my real name used in the article here. I would not like this info to be posted publicly anymore as it is irrelevant now. Is there any way you could help me delete it? Im not sure if you need proof or anything it is me, but i do use my real email on here and I have a facebook if need be.

Thanks! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by ConjureVerified (talkcontribs) .

An article does not have to be removed for personal information (such as legal name) to be removed. Even if you are no longer a member of the fandom, the article could stay (and be edited to reflect that) for historical purposes. If these compromises are acceptable to you then the article could stay. Equivamptalk 08:36, 24 January 2013 (EST)

[edit] Mobile Frontend extension

Any chance of getting mw:Extension:MobileFrontend installed? It would make WikiFur more accessible in today's world of smartphones. Wikipedia themselves use this extension, it also provides some nice API methods for getting a short text extract from an article. --TerrorBite 12:35, 6 February 2013 (EST)

I've put the appropriate version of the code onto the server but I need a little time away from work to check it over before I can enable it. I also don't really have a suitable device to test it on - just a TracFone. :-) --GreenReaper(talk) 15:08, 6 February 2013 (EST)

[edit] Re: Box-centring

If you're seeing problem with messagebox alignment, it's probably because of our recent proxying changes. I'd bet your WikiFur logo is incorrectly aligned, too! I would hope that they sort themselves out over time. --GreenReaper(talk) 15:06, 6 February 2013 (EST)

Ah, I wondered if it had something to do with that! No biggie. Thanks for the tip. Equivamp - talk 15:16, 6 February 2013 (EST)

[edit] Ru-wikifur

Why is russian subproject unavailable now? -- Anonymous.

Are you sure? It is working fine for me. Equivamp - talk 13:58, 13 February 2013 (EST)
Some users have trouble accessing some editions of WikiFur through our new service provider, CloudFlare. We are working to solve the problem with them, which we believe is on their side. --GreenReaper(talk) 14:16, 13 February 2013 (EST)

[edit] Image issues


I don't know if it's just me, but I'm having a couple of issues with images not displaying properly - such as the first image in the Furball Run article, and the 4th poster in the LondonFurs article (2012 summer party). Other images, even other ones in the same articles, are displaying ok so I'm not quite sure what's going on... Bezel 15:59, 13 February 2013 (EST)

Yes; these issues appear to affect up to 2/13 of images on WikiFur (and Flayrah/the Yerf Archive). They impact users differently depending on location - for example, I can see all the images you mention, but I am not able to see various other images on WikiFur:Gallery (characters). I have a ticket on file with CloudFlare. For now, please proceed as if the images were in place, as they should show up later once the issue is resolved. --GreenReaper(talk) 16:13, 13 February 2013 (EST)

[edit] Mellow.yote rename request

  |REASON=Fursona Name Change
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mellow.yote (talkcontribs) .
Sure. Though we don't have that template. :-) --GreenReaper(talk) 04:43, 11 March 2013 (EDT)

[edit] Requesting a page lock


I was wondering if my old WikiFur page ( could be blocked out/deleted and/or protected, please? Thanks! --Elegance Liberty 20:23, 23 April 2013 (CST)

I've noted your request on the attached discussion page, and if there is no objection I will perform an exclusion in 24 hours. --GreenReaper(talk) 22:14, 23 April 2013 (EDT)

[edit] Timeline of media coverage

Nevermind, Higgs Raccoon did it. Thanks Higgs.

2011 under April I can't see the danish article about furries Link: P1 is a danish radio station run by the state media DR. The article name = Eng: Cool, nice and naughty furries, dk: Fede, flotte og frække furries The air time was/is called Klubværelset(eng: Club room) I was look to add it myself, but it seems a bit to complex for me. I don't want to accidentally mess up the page.

[edit] 2nd request

When you have time, can you or one of the mods check out the changes I have made to: Will my changes meet the wikifur standards, or do I need to change some of it?! I want to make it good.

Will it also still need to be marked: This article does not cite its references or sources. You can help WikiFur by adding references. and The use of time in this article lacks definition. Dates should be used instead of words like "today" and "currently".

Replied on talk page. --GreenReaper(talk) 16:46, 4 May 2013 (EDT)

[edit] Oversight

Hi, please see Talk:Zidonuke for an oversight request regarding personal information missed during a previous suppression. Crashdoom 17:23, 22 May 2013 (EDT)

Please see here for additional recent edits that re-add the removed content. I feel like I'm on a merry-go-round. Crashdoom 11:47, 23 May 2013 (EDT)
Your concern is noted and verified. The article is in temp lock down until the non-appropriate information is removed - Spirou 11:59, 23 May 2013 (EDT)
Question: How does oversight of specific revisions in any way justify full protection of the article? Or are you just, always this heavy handed in a manner which is totally counter productive to the very nature of Wiki's? Leon Hunter 13:38, 23 May 2013 (EDT)

[edit] MrFoxyPaws

Hi and thanks for your comments:

It is not necessary to use a qualifier such as "(series)" if there is no ambiguity. That said, I don't disagree with the use in this particular case, because it clarifies that it is a series of works. Bear in mind that editors may choose to merge articles about creative works back into the article about their creator if there is no evidence that they have a significant following of their own (e.g. through publication). Not saying this will happen, just don't be surprised if you see it. --GreenReaper(talk) 18:24, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

I created 'Boo and Kye' without (series) but reckoned that in the future it was likely there could be ambiguity over 'Frodo' as somebody may create another character of that name; or, equally, a 'Frodo' page might one day cover my fictional character whereas the (series) one would cover the series. So I kinda hovered between using (series) and not using it.

You're right my stories don't have a large following - is it better for me to try and fold them back now? although i'm not totally sure of the formatting for that. I'm more than happy to have a go. I did wonder about this point. I guess that i thought / hoped the number of stories, and that they are a series (with the cast of characters) would lend them some credibility. Also, they're at least of reasonable quality in terms of grammar and spelling etc because that's an interest of mine, having proof-read a novel for a friend. But i'm new to wikifur so happy to follow the guidelines. MrFoxyPaws

I'd say leave it as it is if you're comfortable with it now; if anyone feels the need to merge them later, hopefully they'll deal with it without removing any useful information. We most often do this when there is a true "stub" article that will never be of a significant size, just a few lines, but consistency can be a factor as well. Incidentally, you can sign and date your name in discussions with ~~~~. --GreenReaper(talk) 18:56, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

[edit] Request

Would you please delete my userpage, User:Silver seren? It's been a long time since i've contributed here and I don't really have an inclination to at current and I would just prefer if my userpage was removed. Thank you. SilverserenC 06:10, 1 June 2013 (EDT)

Sure. If you want it back later, let myself or another contributor know. --GreenReaper(talk) 16:57, 1 June 2013 (EDT)

[edit] Locking my Page

Dear GreenReaper,

I am the original and owner of DiWolfe and the page of (well I didnt make it someone else did) and I would like to see if my page can be blocked from google searches, specifically and what it would take to do so. If not then I would just like the page deleted because I do not want it showing up in google searches.

Please let me know if possible and what to do to prove I am who I am if there are any doubts.


Hi DiWolfe. I don't see a problem with deindexing it, given the current content. I've added a noindex tag. Google seems to be a bit obstinate about removing it from its index currently, but I'll try again in a few hours. (It often takes a couple of days to percolate through, anyway.) --GreenReaper(talk) 21:13, 28 June 2013 (EDT)

[edit] New page for Lobocursor Lyceus, HELP!


I am new here, somebody made a stub of me here but with wrong information. Trying to be less solitary, I think that maybe I need to correct the page by myself. I just finished so I hope you can check it and approve it or else. My changes do not show in my friends machines but only for me. :(

I hope you can check the page and help me with this. Thank you in advance! :) Pd. this is the page Lobocursor_Lyceus

-- Lobocursor

Hi Lobocursor. Thanks for taking the time to contribute to WikiFur! Editors have already had at the article, but here's a few comments:
  • File:Lyceus Wikifur.jpg doesn't mention who the artist is, which we would like to do. If it is by you, just adding "by himself" is fine.
  • We generally don't mention copyright of a character because it is implicit. (Registered trademarks do get mentioned, but more because there is other information that comes with that, and references.)
  • The "admin comment" you mentioned in an edit summary was probably an attempt by Spirou to distill your own comment (". . . failed attempt to made a comic strip and novel with them").
  • Use of "show preview" and edit summaries for each saved edit are a good idea (we're not always perfect here, either :-).
  • You can sign your name and the date on talk pages with four tildes (~~~~), or use three for just your name, five for just the date.

Edits are meant to be visible immediately, but sometimes are cached, especially for visitors. I've cleared the cache of the page on our servers, although it may still not be visible for a few hours at your friends' end. --GreenReaper(talk) 04:13, 29 June 2013 (EDT)

[edit] Adding Navbox to the italian Wikifur

Hello Green Reaper! In order to better sort the pages of the italian Wikifur, I was thinking about adding Navboxes templates under some pages (just like the ones the English Wikifur has under the convention related pages). I've seen, however, that the Navbox template doesn't work unless I install the ParserFunctions extention, which I couldn't install myself (it's way too much for my computer knowledges). Is there a way to make th installation easier, or should it be done by someone else?
Thanks for your time and patience, and I understand you're at AC now, so I'll wait for your response after your return. :)
Valery91Thunder 03:11, 4 July 2013 (EDT)

Hey Valery! ParserFunctions is already installed on all instances of WikiFur, so it should work. Note that we're on a slightly older version so some of the very newest features may not be available. --GreenReaper(talk) 12:56, 8 July 2013 (EDT)

[edit] Cannot reset password

Hello. This is user bunnyhugger, though I can't prove it. I forgot my password months ago and have been unable to reset it. I have tried numerous times to have a new password sent, but I never receive the email. The email address on file is probably my address, which is an AT&T address. Unfortunately, AT&T likes to go crazy blocking mail from any IPs they consider suspect. My best guess as to why I do not receive the mail is that AT&T has blacklisted If that isn't it, then I have no idea.

Is there anything I can do to get access to my account back? 03:16, 10 July 2013 (EDT)

I have sent instructions to the email address associated with the account from a address. --GreenReaper(talk) 10:36, 10 July 2013 (EDT)

[edit] Coiltin3

Remove from that member(Coiltin3), or something you can take. Digger SHREW 04:54, 16 July 2013 (EDT)

Done, thank you for letting me know. --GreenReaper(talk) 08:17, 16 July 2013 (EDT)

[edit] Request for exclusion...

Hi, I'd like to request personal exclusion of both Leam and Adjectivecat. Please see this for more information

I may not have a full understanding of the ethics or etiquette of wikis, but I know that inaccurate and obsolete information is more harmful than no information.

Thanks! Leam 03:19, 18 July 2013 (EDT)

I've noted your request on Talk:Adjectivecat. Leam redirects to Adjectivecat and so will show the same template; unless you meant User:Leam (which we can delete outright if you wish, as it's a user page). --GreenReaper(talk) 11:29, 19 July 2013 (EDT)
Thanks. If possible, I'd prefer that both Leam and Adjectivecat both have the same template and that Leam no longer redirect. Please go ahead and delete User:Leam. Leam 18:26, 20 July 2013 (EDT)
Hi, GR, maybe I was confusing with my last message or there is something holding up my request? But the "same template" I was hoping to apply to Leam and Adjectivecat is the personal exclusion one. I appreciate that one doesn't redirect to the other anymore, but I'd like them both to be excluded from Wikifur. Thanks, and sorry if I was unclear previously. Leam 20:01, 27 July 2013 (EDT)
The articles were both excluded several days ago; however, the cached versions were not cleared. I have done this now and you should see the exclusion notice even if not logged-in. --GreenReaper(talk) 20:04, 27 July 2013 (EDT)

[edit] Removal(?)

Actually, I didn't?. I was working on Disambiguation pages updates. May I have hit a wrong button,... but I was even near the front page since 19:59 Pacific Time, when I changed the block settings for RingtailedFox. I'm going to change passwords tout suite, just in case - Spirou 23:55, 25 July 2013 (EDT)

[edit] Article removal request

I'd like you to remove and exclude further creation and editing the article of hu:Tanathy because he doesn't want to appear any form on any site, and also let any short of information be shared. Both Hungarian admins Neo_21670 and KékPáfrány was asked previously, but it was only proteced from further editing (without any reason). Thanks for your help. -- 19:58, 26 July 2013 (EDT)

Hi there. I am aware of this situation; I recently removed protection from the article, and the subject of the article edited it. However, personal exclusion is not a global directive, but specific to those language editions which have decided to use it. I will not enforce the removal of an article over the objections of local editors unless I see a compelling reason to do so. --GreenReaper(talk) 20:14, 26 July 2013 (EDT)

[edit] Exclusion Request

Hi Green, Requesting exclusion from WikiFur for my article Leon Hunter. Furthermore I wish to add that should the request be granted, that the previous revision is removed on grounds of privacy. Cheers, Leon Hunter 09:55, 31 July 2013 (EDT)

Article was excluded.


Remove from that SHREW 09:45, 11 August 2013 (EDT)

I was away, but it should be dealt with now. --GreenReaper(talk) 15:34, 12 August 2013 (EDT)

[edit] Sannse censorship

I'm afraid I will be closing this wiki at the end of the week. I would suggest that you contact GreenReaper of WikiFur, I know that he has helped with hosting in a similar situation.

I got contacted a week ago with the threats to shut down my wiki because she's insisting that because I'm documenting instances of slapping in anime and stuff that I must be 'eroticizing' it as some kind of 'fanservice' and that it somehow breaks the Terms of Use. I completely disagree and can't find where the Terms are broken but this doesn't seem to matter as she's not budging and seems intent on bringing down the hammer regardless of how many explanations or offered concessions I make.

She asked I contact you for suggestions on how to retain the wiki so I was wondering if you might know. I know how to Special:Export so but this only appears to cover articles but not the image files I was hosting on them. At this point since so many images haven't even been identified (I just raided a blog post where the creator didn't attribute them to specific series/episodes/characters) they're very important to identifying some unknown scenes.

She mentioned something about bots that could download images from a wiki for us. Would you be familiar with how to do this? If not then I guess I have to get to the manual downloading which sucks. Ty 06:50, 13 August 2013 (EDT)

Hmm. Actually, I don't believe I've ever hosted a migrating wiki, apart of course from WikiFur itself. The Uncyclopedia crew have more recent experience of moving from Wikia hosting and it might be best to ask them what they did. My largest contribution to that was MediaWikiAuth, which lets people login and transfer their account from another wiki (and which should actually work with current versions of MediaWiki after their gentle ministrations). Wowpedia also left with a lot of files.
When it comes to a wiki-specific tool for image transfer, you might want to look at pywikipediabot's I haven't used it but if you can whip up a family file for your wiki and a target instance of MediaWiki to put it onto (several hosts offer turnkey MediaWiki installs), it may work. There are many tools you can use to create an image of a site; I'd suggest trying HTTrack and see how you go if the image transfer doesn't work out. --GreenReaper(talk) 07:54, 13 August 2013 (EDT)

[edit] Reverts

The IP that's been editing my page and Seto's really needs blocked, if possible, or our pages locked to logged-in accounts only. I don't really know how wikis work about this kind of thing, but... uh. She's been bothering us for the past few months. Don't need this petty dramz on a public site. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by BlauRascon (talkcontribs) .

They claim that their edit is a "true fact". Is it? (We don't have to have relationship information there at all, but if it is, it should be accurate.) --GreenReaper(talk) 03:41, 1 September 2013 (EDT)
It is not. We are not in an open relationship, never have been, and never will be. She's bothered us before on other sites, she's just following me here. Either way, just checked her userpage, Spirou's blocked her for a month - that should be enough time for her to lose interest. Thanks so much! --BlauRascon 17:01, 2 September 2013 (EDT)

[edit] Please remove my article

Can you please remove my article - thank you - shadowpelt

I have noted your request on the attached discussion page. Given the page's content, you may need to make a convincing case there as to why it is not in the fandom's best interest to keep the article around. --GreenReaper(talk) 08:43, 19 September 2013 (EDT)
I'd really like to know why I haven't received any response about this situation for over a month now, thank you. - Shadowpelt

[edit] Dead Link Alert is now dead so I am still not sure what you mean by not being a godking? has also lead to a dead site page —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jwktrucker (talkcontribs) .

They both work here. Perhaps the site was temporarily down. --GreenReaper(talk) 13:34, 22 October 2013 (EDT)

[edit] sup

Long time no see. Now that Onideus is gone we can spend more time together. 22:19, 13 November 2013 (EST)

[edit] No language interwiki on WikiFur?

i'm registrated on english WikiFur but can't switch over to the german version. Why not? Isn't there a so called Interwiki connection? Do i have to register of a new for the german version? --Saviour1981 01:20, 27 November 2013 (EST)

WikiFur does have langauge interwikis, but does not have CentralAuth or a shared user database. You have to register a separate account. If you use the same username and password, it will be automatically linked if we do enable CentralAuth in the future. --GreenReaper(talk) 01:24, 27 November 2013 (EST)

[edit] FurrTrax

I made some changes further to the FurrTrax page, incorporating a bunch of edits by someone, as i said not a wiki expert, but i like the way it looks now. If its alright with you, i would like to update the page myself as needed once a month, occasionally a user known as foxxer may also make minor changes as needed. The reason i link to staff is so that there is always a life line of contact for those who need help on the site, or if trouble starts either drama related or malfunctions wise, the word can spread quickly, and people can find out who to contact even if they cannot reach the site. Thanks for the time bro.

[edit] Question

Just wonder if their is a way to close my user account? user:MilitaryAviator 19:19EST 26 december 2013

Replied on User talk:MilitaryAviator --GreenReaper(talk) 22:13, 26 December 2013 (EST)
ok thanks again man -user:MilitaryAviator 22:23 EST 26 december 2013

[edit] Per

I would like an exclusion from this site under the user name Ink Stained Rat ( ) and from any future 'People' articles that may be titled with my alternate fandom name 'Calligraphy.'

Sure, I've noted your request on the talk page and unless there's any objection it should be excluded a day or so after that. I can redirect Calligraphy to there right away. --GreenReaper(talk) 17:02, 31 December 2013 (EST)

[edit] Input requested.

Hi Green,

Seems Spirou has gotten involved in an editing dispute where he later used protection and false citations (IE: providing a citation for a fact when the citation is openly stated to be the mere speculation of an individual). I have written a war and peace epic on the topic and would appreciate your guidance, as this kind of behaviour from Spirou is becoming routine much to the dismay of involved editors. Talk:Zidonuke Leon Hunter 22:02, 11 January 2014 (EST)


Hello, I am the owner of domain. I've switched the service from web redirect to dns managment to take advance of the name for other services (ie: have email redirect with and I was wondering if I could someway redirect (or or to . (cname or something alike) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) .

Dealt with in IRC. --GreenReaper(talk) 06:12, 13 February 2014 (EST)

[edit] Becoming a curator

What credentials and qualifications would I need to become a curator or a admin of sorts. I wish to contribute and volunteer my services. Thank you. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) .

Having an account would be a start. WikiFur editors generally become colleagues after an extended period of editing (in the order of over six months and a thousand edits), such that they become familiar with how the site and that other colleagues can judge their suitability. Most editing can be done by any registered user. --GreenReaper(talk) 04:17, 15 March 2014 (EDT)

[edit] File upload problems

Good evening, I'm having trouble with a file I uploaded (this one). It had too much whitespace when I uploaded it, but when I cropped it, it came out skewed in the upload. So I uploaded the original again, but then the previous version looked fine, so I reverted, only to have it come out skewed again. Frankly, I'm stumped. Is this something you can fix? I've reverted to the version with too much space for now. -Captain Video 02:11, 15 March 2014 (EDT)

WikiFur's images are cached and uploading a new one that is a different size under the same name may cause temporary issues because the website is sizing the image appropriately for the current version but your browser is accessing the cached version. I have reverted to the cropped version and cleared all caches relating to that image; it seems to look correct now. --GreenReaper(talk) 03:21, 15 March 2014 (EDT)

[edit] hey

i heard you were a big deal around here, is this true? --Likeicare 03:31, 15 March 2014 (EDT)

i'm waitin--Likeicare 04:38, 15 March 2014 (EDT)

[edit] XOTW

The Main Page has red links. Interstellar Shipping & Trading Co. 03:09, 17 March 2014 (EDT)

Yes, that tends to happen sometimes. --GreenReaper(talk) 03:10, 17 March 2014 (EDT)
Do you have a sysop dashboard that you can put onto your userpage? Sometimes I have to purge a page's cache to fix the problems. Interstellar Shipping & Trading Co. 03:13, 17 March 2014 (EDT)
No, we do not. You have to know the secret incantations yourself! --GreenReaper(talk) 03:15, 17 March 2014 (EDT)

Enjoy. Interstellar Shipping & Trading Co. 03:33, 17 March 2014 (EDT)

[edit] Hi

Hi there,

Thank about the page, Didn't know for sure yet how to do everything.

And the DA page is a mistake with age, I putted 1990 there, but probably something went wrong and since then it's 1989, Even though my real birth is December 17, 1990 ( 23 )

Not sure yet how to change the rest though, Linking the DA, FA and SF page soon too, Could use some help though.

Thank you :)

[edit] RE:Protection of templates

If the need to protect templates hasn't presented itself then I'm good with that. Interstellar Shipping & Trading Co. 08:40, 19 March 2014 (EDT)

[edit] Comic of the Week

Now it is no longer difficult for others to locate comics to feature. I'll clean up the mess I made later. Enjoy. Interstellar Shipping & Trading Co. 16:39, 22 March 2014 (EDT)

Thanks. Interstellar Shipping & Trading Co. 02:26, 26 March 2014 (EDT)

[edit] Removal of link on page about Nathalie


I edited the link because I am basically the person the page is about and thelink isn't relevant anymore... I added the page a long time ago and couldn't remeber my original username and password so I had to create a new one. I will add the new link to my artwork once it's live. Thank you and if you have any more question please ask me. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lioness34 (talkcontribs) .

I see! The account in question appears to be "Nato". If you wish to regain access to it, you will have to login with the username and password from when we were on; if you cannot remember it, you may reset your password there first, and then login here with that new password. --GreenReaper(talk) 07:01, 12 April 2014 (EDT)
I tried login in on wikia but couldn't remember what email address I had used to join so Icouldn't login and gave up... Is it ok to keepon using this user profile instead? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lioness34 (talkcontribs) .
Sure, there's no problem with that. --GreenReaper(talk) 21:16, 14 April 2014 (EDT)

[edit] Higgs Raccoon

(Deletion log); 10:09 . . Higgs Raccoon (Talk | contribs) deleted "Talking Angela" (Insufficient content/context: two external links and no text do not make an article)

Could I suggest that administrators wait at least 72 hours before going on a deletion rampage. If it is a crime to leave something in the mainspace unfinished for less than 24 hours then I won't do it again. But elsewhere I personally give people at least 2 weeks to work on stuff. Also instead of clicking the delete button, it would have taken him a couple minutes to convert that into a stub. All I'm saying is a little more effort by the administrators would go a long way to encourage others to contribute. Interstellar Shipping & Trading Co. 08:38, 17 April 2014 (EDT)

Yes, it is a crime to save a page which is just a couple of links without context. If you are "currently" editing an article, intend to return to it soon, but need to make a save for security purposes or because you're changing location, you should use {{inuse}}.
Curators are there to help if you have problems, and to help ensure that articles are at a consistent level of quality, not to write entire articles based on a couple of links that you found interesting. If it would have taken another person a couple of minutes to create a stub, it would have taken you even less to provide the same information. If you don't, we may assume that it's not worth anyone's time, and delete it. --GreenReaper(talk) 08:49, 17 April 2014 (EDT)
As I said, I wasn't finished. Either way I hope you will seriously consider asking administrators to wait 72 hours before pouncing on newpages. And sometimes dropping a couple links isn't a bad idea, there might be others who are interested in the topic. It appears there was a bit of controversy about Talking Angela and I have been looking to see what, if any, interest there is. Interstellar Shipping & Trading Co. 09:05, 17 April 2014 (EDT)
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