User talk:Almafeta

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Hey hold up!
Do not copy conversations from other talk pages to this page.

I automatically check other people's talk pages when I begin conversations there, so there is no need to do it, and no benefit from having one conversation in two different places. It takes up more space, and is confusing.

Original greeting from GreenReaper[edit]

Hi there, Almafeta - welcome to WikiFur! Let me know on my user talk page if there's anything you need to know not covered in the help. :-) --GreenReaper(talk) 13:13, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)


I had just one question re this wiki: Are there any guidelines for creating furry articles not in English? Say, Chakat/ia or Chakat/ru or whatnot? I'm a member of Furrys Pro Interlingua, as well as a general-purpose language geekskunk, and I'm just curious. Almafeta 13:18, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)

The "best" way to do it would be to use something like, edit pages on there, and then use translation tags to link to them, as in Wikipedia. We do not have versions of WikiFur in other langauges at this time. If this is something you'd like to help coordinate (it will need at least one person to maintain each language), let me know what languages you'd like it set up for and I can get things set up with the Wikicities staff. See WikiMac for an example - other languages at the bottom left.
If you're not up to doing this at this time, as a temporary measure, what you suggest might work but only if you add a category to each plage, like [[Category:Spanish articles]], and maybe put a template in the main page to indicate that there is a translation for it (you could do one template that would work for the whole page. That way we can find them to move them later on! :-) --GreenReaper(talk) 13:38, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Special bar[edit]

Also, I've created a special bar for the front page here. Go ahead and add it if you think it's a good idea ^^; Almafeta 08:59, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Seems a perfectly reasonable use of space. Added! --GreenReaper(talk) 13:55, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Template icons[edit]

The cheeda_delete image seems to lack transparancy in the corners. Just letting you know. --Markus 08:51, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I know. Almafeta 08:56, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Template suggestions[edit]

Just as an idea: {{contributor}}, a template that would be the first line of a page and say that the article is about someone who is also a frequent Wikifur. Just to be more neutral. Almafeta 12:43, 20 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Good idea, I think I'll make it a two way link. So people who have an article in the main namespace can link to it from their User page nicely. -Nidonocu - talk Nidonocu 19:55, 20 Aug 2005 (UTC)
It is done! See the templates here and here! :D -Nidonocu - talk Nidonocu 23:56, 20 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Another question[edit]

Is Wikifur limited to Wikipedia-style pages, or are other things possible? For example, if I had written up a how-to guide on (say) how to build a ventilation system into a fursuit without being obvious, such as would normally go into Wikibooks, could I put it here? Almafeta 04:34, 21 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Most certainly! We're not subject to those sorts of content divisions - if you have something of use to the furry community that could benefit from being on a wiki, this is the place to put it. :-) --GreenReaper(talk) 04:50, 21 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Songs subcategory[edit]

Do you a subcategory should be created for songs? Mwalimu 15:48, 22 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Sure, go ahead, but we gotta be careful not to let 'category lust' build up. Almafeta 15:50, 22 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Wiki Formatting[edit]

Just an FYI. We try to avoid using html tags inside articles themselves. Instead of the <i></i> and so on, we have a special format. It should be in the help contents. --Markus 02:54, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Commentary re. an image you uploaded:[edit]

I note the site is released under the terms of the FDL, and you uploaded an image stating it should not be used with FDL-licensed information. You are contravening the terms of the licensing of this site with that image.

Sslaxx: The text of the site is licensed under the GFDL. The images are not, and may be licensed under a number of licenses (GFDL, Creative Commons) or not licensed at all (you asked permission and got it, fair use, public domain). This is one of the notable ways in which Wikicities differs from Wikipedia. Almafeta 18:07, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Link deletions?[edit]

I notice that you've removed links for Portal of Evil in several articles. Why would we have entries for places like Something Awful and CYD, but exclude Portal of Evil? --Duncan da Husky 14:10, 24 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I saw PoE was inappropriately high in the 'wanted pages' list, and worried that someone might create a page for it. It's too late to delete the pages for Something Awful and Crush Yiff Destory, but I'm of the opinion that creating pages about trolls and trolling organizations can only invite trouble. Almafeta 14:12, 24 Aug 2005 (UTC)
Hmm. I can see your rationale, but I'm not sure that I agree with it. I think at this point the toothpaste is out of the tube, as they say, and the completionist in me says that if we have the other two, we might as well have PoE as well. As far as attracting trolls, I'd say that we have other articles on here that make FAR more attractive troll-bait, plus we seem to have any possible troll invasions well-controlled. Given that our goal is to "record information of use to the furry community," to me that includes both friends and enemies. --Duncan da Husky 14:20, 24 Aug 2005 (UTC)
The thing is: On the front page, it describes WikiFur as being "a freely-editable encyclopaedia for the furry community." I don't know how we can serve the furry community if we do so by drawing the attention of vandalism groups like ED/POE/SA, and allowing them to flourish when here. Almafeta 14:25, 24 Aug 2005 (UTC)
We've been drawing the attention of trolls since day one, regardless of what articles we have on the site. I do not see any problems whatsoever with having factual and neutral articles about POE, SA, etc. I do not think that the presence of such articles will significantly change the number of trolls that are attracted here. --Dmuth 14:28, 24 Aug 2005 (UTC)
Agreed with Dmuth and Duncan. This information is useful to the furry community, like any other topic that's spoken about frequently. Maybe PoE appears in the wanted pages because it's wanted? Also, CYD/PoE != trolling organizations. --The Shrike 00:46, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)


Hey, Almafeta. I'm fairly new here, and by coincidence ended up editing two of your articles (Interlingua and Zaftig). Please don't take it personally! And the fact that I speak Esperanto has nothing to do with it. :) --Tom Howling 22:51, 24 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Correct edit summaries[edit]

Please do not mark the removal of a link as "fix link" as you recently did on rootdown. If you are removing something, say that. Doing otherwise makes you look dishonest about what you are doing.

In that case, I feel the link was appropriate for the definition of the term, although the surrounding text needed alteration to remove attribution of the term from WikiFur to rootdown. Your removal therefore reduced the usefulness of the article. --GreenReaper(talk) 04:18, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)

You are aware that it was only a link to Encyclopedia Dramatica, right? It was fixing because it (a) the term is self-explanitory, and (b) Encyclopedia Dramatica is not a work of reference; pages on ED do not have to be factual, comprehensive, written in good English, or about something that actually exists. The only criteria for ED is what's 'funny' -- and what's funny over there consists of making things up about a subject, and then mauling the subject as if the made-up facts were true. Almafeta 04:28, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)
I'm very aware that it's a link to Encyclopedia Dramatica. It explained what the original editor meant by Internet Celebrity. I contend that the term is not self-explanatory, as that is not the definition that I would have given. I would have assumed it might mean that the person was actually popular. Fortunately, with the link there, I can go to ED and note that this is not the case. ;-) --GreenReaper(talk) 06:03, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)
Sorry, I didn't reply specifically to b) - despite all that you say being true, it is still a good reference for what the author meant. --GreenReaper(talk) 06:06, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)

(comment re talk pages)[edit]

I diasgree that there is no benefit - one is to ensure that other people can see what discussions you are involved in, which may be related to discussions that they are having or would have with you. --GreenReaper(talk) 04:18, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)
(Just moved from up top... Almafeta 04:28, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC))

==Comment from User:Wesha So you speak Russian? =^.^=

Sorry, I don't, I just wish I could.  :( No good Russian tutorial online. I do have some friends in the Russian furry community however, and I was going to start a Russian-Interlingua tutorial here (to get russian furs into Furrys Pro Interlingua, make it more multinational). Sorry to dissappoint.  :/ Almafeta 22:33, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Question about etymology of Furvert[edit]

Hiya! a question on the etymology of the word "furvert" has come up on User talk:Calbeck. Since you wrote the original article, could you stop by and talk about your sources a bit? Thanks!--Duncan da Husky 15:49, 14 Sep 2005 (UTC)


Regarding this edit . . .

rv -- I requested exclusion, please respect that.

I'm not at all sure:

  1. What you're talking about when you say you "requested exclusion" - you're not currently excluded from WikiFur, nor am I aware of any such request from you
  2. What kind of exclusion would preclude quotes from you about WikiFur being placed on that page, when it's clearly a relevant comment that you made in public (the fact that it came up in a search for WikiFur is why I put it in there to start with)
  3. Why you don't want that quote there to start with!

Please enlighten me. :-) --GreenReaper(talk) 17:26, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)

I think Almafeta is actually talking about a Wiki entry - they have discussed this with me before. Sslaxx
Right, but this isn't personal information or a wiki entry on Almafeta . . . it's a public quote about WikiFur, which is why I put it on the WikiFur page, not the Almafeta page. :-) --GreenReaper(talk) 18:53, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)
I requested total exclusion, both in the wiki having a page about me, and in being mentioned anywhere else on the wiki, from Nidonocu a few days back. I guess it's not going to happen. Almafeta 15:22, 9 Oct 2005 (UTC)
I didn't bring it up with anyone else as you didn't respond the the further comments I made. In this perticular case, it actually falls under the hotly debated rule of Mentions on other pages. You can't remove a person from where their interaction with something else, caused them to be noted down in that thing's history. As such in this case, a quote by you on WikiFur, on the WikiFur page is not any kind of personal or private information, it therefor can not be excluded under our own rules. --Nidonocu - talk Nidonocu 19:04, 9 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Lonely pages[edit]

From your To-do list:

Figure out what Special:Lonelypages stands for ....

I found out that a page gets on that list if no links from other pages point to it.

Similarly, a "dead end" is a page with no links to anything else.

Unci 20:52, 5 Nov 2005 (UTC)

I forsee the creation of as a competitor to :-) --GreenReaper(talk) 21:01, 5 Nov 2005 (UTC)