Talk:Astolpho/Archive1

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Tone[edit]

I'm a bit concerned with tone in a few places. For example, "Astolpho had up until that point made a point of being courteous and polite to everyone he interacted with". This is a judgement, and should be attributed IMHO. For example, "Astolpho asserts that he had...". It's hard to write about oneself, no? The only actual change I'm making to the article is in the phrase "unanimous approval", although I'll reconsider if the author can show it (the artist's new style) was put to a yes/no vote, with no dissenters. Even then it would have to note the scope, i.e. "...unanimous approval among such-and-such group". But good article overall! --Tom Howling 23:29, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Yeah. From writing another Wiki article about who I am, I can say it is pretty damn hard to maintain a Neutral Point Of View. I now see that writing an article specifically about one's SELF is just rediculous. Obviously, a person's view of himself cannot reflect the general view of the public. (Where's the part that says Astolpho is an elitist, arrogant jerk?) What he might deem important or noteworthy might be trivial or insignificant with respect to the furry fandom. But I won't make a big deal about that--However, I do have one thing I really need to say. Astolpho, just because you know yourself better than anyone else knows you does NOT give you the right to make opinionated remarks in your little autobiography here. Among other little things in this article, I'm referring to you calling babyfurs "horrifying." —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.81.74.19 (talkcontribs) 05:17, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
First of all, if you're going to call me an elitist, arrogant jerk (which I will absolutely cop to, feel free to edit it in wherever you feel is appropriate and please remember to log in this time when you do it, otherwise I'll remove it), at least have the cojones to leave a name, otherwise your criticism is is completely without credibility. I'm going to assume that you're Skippyfox, though, because you sound like him, and you share his abysmally poor reading comprehension skills: nowhere in the article did I say or imply that babyfurs were horrifying. I said that the Astolpho alter-ego and the associated artwork was a horrifying secret - which, in relation to the circle of friends being made reference to, it is. Or was. Whatever. --Rootdown 05:31, 26 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Children, please. Leave the drama on Livejournal. ;) --Tom Howling 16:20, 26 Aug 2005 (UTC)


I'm not one for editing other people's talk pages, but typically, if someone doesn't sign something, then I just delete it without answering it on mine. Might be a good idea for you to do that too, bellcat.Redcard 16:26, 26 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I won't add this to the article, but has anybody else noticed his abdication of Pride's necessary component to look for values in all places. This would imply a willingness to acquire values from all sources, which includes forgiving those who have perviously erred and have corrected said err. This brings us to his abdication of Justice's necessary component to look at a person as a whole when judging rather than looking at a few non-essential details? Also, in an act of complete self-contradiction, he earlier likened another person, who is now his friend, to me, and dissasociated contact with both of us, but now speaks with this friend but not me. This speaks of a lack of an objective method in assessing a person's characteristics. Perhaps in the article it should state "He is not a forgiving person, with an exception to those who show some uncomprehensible mix of characteristics that no rational person could ascertain without being personally told of his standards". Would this be appropriate? Starblade 03:36, 6 May 2007 (UTC)